I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Superchunk rocked on Thurs!
Superchunk rocked on Thers!
Chunks were blown on Thurs.
Chunky Soup rocks!
It is the Cocktail of Remembrance, which only I can prepare.
Well, Thers does have children, so I'll see you at another time.
Sleep well.
Eleventeenth!!
Chunks were blown on Thurs.
David (Austin Tx)
I hope he took a bath.....
Chunk Style!
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Yes, Superchunk.
Chunks were blown on Thurs.
David (Austin Tx) | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 8:54 pm | #
Super!
They certainly did rock. Rocked and rocked and RAWKED!
Oceans suck, just like this blog. And whales.
Chunk soup: it eats like a meal!
Chunk soup: it eats like a meal!
Thunka Wunka
It's John Kerry's fault that Nancy Pelosi has already failed as Speaker of the House...
Is that right, boss?
=
I see the Lout Twins and Maple Syrup Boy were all in NYC, and no one bothered to call me.
That's okay. I'll just sit here in the dark.
I hope he took a bath.....
I do hope someone washed the tub first!
what's an ocean for?
why, it is all that stands between us and the islamofascist hordes, the mohammedan menace, if you will...
think of this comment as a pre-emptive strike against the trools, unless they're still on the Pelosi kick.
Re-HICA!
Curly!
.
Us modemites are not amused by this rampant Youtubery...
They certainly did rock. Rocked and rocked and RAWKED!
watertiger
Are you gloating?
why, it is all that stands between us and the islamofascist hordes, the mohammedan menace, if you will...
Ok. But what keeps us safe from the liberal hoards?
They certainly did rock. Rocked and rocked and RAWKED!
watertiger
Having a little Katie Couric Rave Up, there, my dear?
Oceans suck, just like this blog. And whales.
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 8:57 pm
Whales?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...h?
v=ie7_2iXXcj4
Us modemites are not amused by this rampant Youtubery...
Elmer, PHD
Here here
My squirrel needs a break
I do hope someone washed the tub first!
smalfish
Me too.
mmmm, the roast is resting and the house smells wonderful...
(INSERT SIMELS' PATENTED 'WHY DOES ATRIOS ONLY LISTEN TO WHITE BANDS?' COMMENT)
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Chunk had to put themselves first to make it. And maybe they still even had chilluns.
Arghhhhhh.....
I'm going to go scratch for awhile. You guys do what you need to do.
Having a little Katie Couric Rave Up, there, my dear?
Superchunk's neat! Like coal!
I see the Lout Twins and Maple Syrup Boy were all in NYC, and no one bothered to call me.
We talked about you, though, at some length.
smalfish: the oceans of propaganda spewed forth on television, radio, etc--
-- no, no, not propaganda, *news*--
mmmm, the roast is resting and the house smells wonderful...
Deacon Blues
What do you do, chase your meat around the house a while before you eat it?
We talked about you, though, at some length.
Well that makes me feel better.
Superchunk's neat! Like coal!
watertiger
What do you do, chase your meat around the house a while before you eat it?
Elmer, PHD
Yes. And your point is?
Things are a little slow in here, so I stopped over at the other club I frequent. This is what I found:
The format of this forum is garbage. I'm fairly new around here, have there ever been threads about moving this Western Mass music forum to a real application, like phpBB or somesuch?
I'd be willing to serve it out for free, appoint other members as moderators/administrator, have no advertising pull, etc. Would there be any interest in a real Bulletin Board?
Feedback or comments appreciated.
An attempt at poetry, at the expense of the usual wankers.
-- no, no, not propaganda, *news*--
nick carraway
Impropaganda.
Or in the case of mark Foley, IMpropaganda...
What do you do, chase your meat around the house a while before you eat it?
Elmer, PHD
Well-exercised meat is the best kind.
Well that makes me feel better.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:03 pm | #
Well, hell, kk, let it console you a little. I mean, I'm sure my name never came up!
Oceans suck, just like this blog. And whales.
S'ok. In about 45 years the oceans and everything in them will be dead.
What do you do, chase your meat around the house a while before you eat it?
Elmer, PHD
It is rare, but yes.
Carrot.
Stick = Send you a guitar. 
.
I'm sure this has been discussed already, but Uh, "Democrats Suck?"
Are these people for real? I guess if they have to pay Atrios every time somebody from here clicks through, they're pissing their money down a hole, so it's kind of funny. But, like, Ew.
JESUS H. CHRIST! ANOTHER BREAK FOR RUTGERS!
More white musicians and Rutgers gets a turnover.
Oceans suck, just like this blog. And whales.
S'ok. In about 45 years the oceans and everything in them will be dead.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Don't Kill The Whale.
(yes, it is at youtube, and no, I'm too kind to link)
S'ok. In about 45 years the oceans and everything in them will be dead.
But, but, but...... We have GAWD on OUR side!
I mean, I'm sure my name never came up!
I am told that whenever Thers gets drunk (every night), he starts singing the old Irish classic, "Whiskeyina Jar."
Yes. And your point is?
Arthur J. Shouty-Crackers
Guess that was a pretty stupid question to ask around here, wunnit?
The format of this forum is garbage. I'm fairly new around here,
"Hi. I've just wandered in for the second time, and because I know more about everything than anybody else evah, I feel perfectly comfortable in telling all you pibbles in this community that your neighborhood sucks.
I RAWK!!"
Ish.
SC 3 Cal 2 another fumble .... dull game
My wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
Weak.
We talked about you, though, at some length.
Probably observing the difficulty of getting a word in edgewise, and of his overbearing nature, I'd imagine.
.
S'ok. In about 45 years the oceans and everything in them will be dead.
Sweet! All the whale meat, oil and ambergris I've stocked will be worth a FORTUNE!
Free range roast?
Weak.
Thers, Extant
THE MONKEYS! O MY CHUY, THE MONKEYS!!!!
S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y! NIGHT!
What'd I miss?
S'ok. In about 45 years the oceans and everything in them will be dead.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
And in 50 years they will have swallowed Manhattan *and* Vermont!!
Revenge is sweet....
Rutgers, just kick a field goal for god's sake, there's only 12 seconds left on the clock, don't try to be clever.
Good evening all.
Well...that White Whale tune takes me back...a sound straight from 1983.
Tom: Don't Kill The Whale.
Moby Dick! ick! ick! ick!
.
Hokay, I give up.
Goodnight.
My wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
Pay no attention.
FUCK!
Yes. And your point is?
Arthur J. Shouty-Crackers
Puppy dog, you ever catch any a them there armadeeyos in your travels?
Rutgers, just kick a field goal for god's sake, there's only 12 seconds left on the clock, don't try to be clever.
The Kenosha Kid
You were saying??!!!!
I am told that whenever Thers gets drunk (every night), he starts singing the old Irish classic, "Whiskeyina Jar."
The Kenosha Kid
wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
What are they ranked in the BCS?
My wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
Weak.
[reviews plans to eliminate The Lout in December, then swoop in to take over family]
I am told that whenever Thers gets drunk (every night), he starts singing the old Irish classic, "Whiskeyina Jar."
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:08 pm | #
Thanks, kk. I kinda thought he did that whole "Whiskey Ashes" then "Whiskey Fire" thing as a tribute to me.
[Neon I'M KIDDING! sign flashing here]
Hey, maybe Youtube could put up a text-and-slideshow version for us bandwidth impaired types...?
S'ok. In about 45 years the oceans and everything in them will be dead.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
And in 50 years they will have swallowed Manhattan *and* Vermont!!
Revenge is sweet....
flory, keeper of the list
Tumorous radioactive sewer gators will swim above the ruins of NYC.
Mayonnaise-marinated seared Ahi with wasabi aioli for dinner at the Blerbs' tonight. With grilled pinapple, foil-roasted plantains with brown sugar and butter, grilled scallions, mesclun salad with close to the last of the tomatoes, and a nice Tokai Friulani.
Ish.
flory, keeper of the list | 11.18.06 - 9:08 pm | #
Excellent, flory. I think I'll cut & paste that!
Mayonnaise-marinated seared Ahi with wasabi aioli for dinner at the Blerbs' tonight. With grilled pinapple, foil-roasted plantains with brown sugar and butter, grilled scallions, mesclun salad with close to the last of the tomatoes, and a nice Tokai Friulani.
blerb
I had some broth.
.
My wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
Weak.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:08 pm | #
Dude. Seriously. Dude, you need to get out your copy of Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards, and sync it up from when the house falls on, like, the witch? And I swear to God it totally syncs up from there, so that when you see a hand on the screen, they sing about a hand, and everything.
Those "Wizard of Oz" dudes must've totally been tripping. Seriously, dude! Stoned munchkins. For real!
You were saying??!!!!
You'd think they would listen to me by now.
Mahi-mahi. Costco has it, in large, frozen bags. Grillgasm.
.
I had some broth.
.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
not feeling well? So sorry.
Tumorous radioactive sewer gators will swim above the ruins of NYC.
Maybe then Ntodd will be able to get a date.
[Neon I'M KIDDING! sign flashing here]
I like whiskey.
Too bad I can't have a grill. It's part of a non-compete agreement I signed...
.
My wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
did you make her watch football?
Well that makes me feel better.
Oh, dood. We were talking about how freakin' funny you are.
Well, that and your mysterious ways.
Excellent, flory. I think I'll cut & paste that!
whiskeyina
With my blessings. I detest noxious little smarms like that.
I feel fine, but I still can't talk worth a damn. Not much noise comes out.
.
FUCK!
The Kenosha Kid
You issuing orders now? And wasn't that a bit abrupt? Sorta like Jeff Lynne's "OK, on four...four!"
Give us a li'l countoff, at least...
not feeling well? So sorry.
blerb/i>
I'm feeling fine. All I ever have is broth.
And chocolate. Sometimes chocolate and broth.
My wife is insisting on watching The Wizard of Oz.
Weak.
Thers, Extant
Make her watch with Dark of the Moon playing.
I like the X rated version of the wizards of Oz. Tinman gives Dorthy a pounding.
Hey, maybe Youtube could put up a text-and-slideshow version for us bandwidth impaired types...?
Or maybe something that converts the thing to assci vid or somesuch......
Tumorous radioactive sewer gators will swim above the ruins of NYC.
Maybe then Ntodd will be able to get a date.
I never date gators. My ass has a sign that says "CROCS ONLY" tattooed on it...
did you make her watch football?
That's not what they're calling that shit in Miami these days.
I like the X rated version of the wizards of Oz. Tinman gives Dorthy a pounding.
I hope they used lubricant.
Dude, you need to get out your copy of Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards
Circle of Hands....
Dreamer of Lands....
And in the search of beauty
Evil was lost...
I had some broth.
.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Ordered a pizza and added some green chili.
I hope your response was in humor.
.
That would be Dark Side of the Moon...preview does not help if ya don't pay attention....
[Neon I'M KIDDING! sign flashing here]
I like whiskey.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:14 pm | #
I take it you're not kidding.
Mayonnaise-marinated seared Ahi with wasabi aioli for dinner at the Blerbs' tonight. With grilled pinapple, foil-roasted plantains with brown sugar and butter, grilled scallions, mesclun salad with close to the last of the tomatoes, and a nice Tokai Friulani.
blerb
Well, I had frozen pizza, jalapeno poppers, and there are is a gaggle of teenaged girls being loud in the house.
Not quite as satisfying.
Maybe I will go get another beer.
Tumorous radioactive sewer gators will swim above the ruins of NYC.
Maybe then Ntodd will be able to get a date.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Good thing that's cheap wine all over my laptop.
And in 50 years they will have swallowed Manhattan *and* Vermont!!
Revenge is sweet....
flory, keeper of the list
If the oceans make it all the way to Manhattan, we're all in big trouble. *discovering White Whale is from Lawrence and too ashamed to look at the scoreboard from Lawrence today*
Make her watch with Dark of the Moon playing.
Uncle Smokes
A lot of Pink Floys fans seem to also really enjoy marijuana.
Uncle Smokes: Make her watch with Dark of the Moon playing.
Animals, maaaaan. *'ere*
.
Mayonnaise-marinated seared Ahi with wasabi aioli for dinner at the Blerbs' tonight. With grilled pinapple, foil-roasted plantains with brown sugar and butter, grilled scallions, mesclun salad with close to the last of the tomatoes, and a nice Tokai Friulani.
I thought we had some rules agin' flirting in here................You had me at wasabi aioli..............
/filling the drool bucket.
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I hope they used lubricant.
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:17 pm | #
Why do you think he carries that can of oil?
Post game conference:
"Coach, were you reading the Atrios comments during the game, and if not, why not?"
I hope they used lubricant.
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:17 pm | #
"Slide some oil to me..."
I hope they used lubricant.
Tinman has stamina, and don't need no Viagra.
"Oceans suck, just like this blog. And whales.
NT'odd (Mandatier)"
and michigan
A lot of Pink Floys fans seem to also really enjoy marijuana.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:18 pm | #
"Wow. This album is completely fucking unlistenable."
"Here, smoke this."
"Wow! Now it sounds great!"
I take it you're not kidding.
I like bacon.
The munchkins are a bunch of whiny little fucks. Them and the fucking Oompa Loompas. Fuck them.
A lot of Pink Floys fans seem to also really enjoy marijuana.
Thers, Extant
There's a definite vibe enhancement in there somewhere.
I like the X rated version of the wizards of Oz. Tinman gives Dorthy a pounding.
I always thought the Tin Man liked, um, other tin men.
what's an ocean for?
Peeing in.
This has been another edition of ...
The Lollipop Guild are a bunch of FUCKING PUSSIES.
Well, I had frozen pizza, jalapeno poppers, and there are is a gaggle of teenaged girls being loud in the house.
Not quite as satisfying.
Maybe I will go get another beer.
David (Austin Tx)
Sounds nice.
You know what's completely mindblowing? Put on Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene, and listen to it while listening to Dark Side of the Moon. They totally go together exactly, if you're high enough.
Why do you think he carries that can of oil?
And the Cowardly Lion is definitely gay. No question.
aiight...for some unfathomable reason, my dinner is refusing to cook itself. So I must work.
Pooh....
A lot of Pink Floys fans seem to also really enjoy marijuana.
Thers, Extant
The marijuana enjoys Pink Floyd. The fans are mere hosts.
My ass has a sign that says "CROCS ONLY" tattooed on it...
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:16 pm | #
That I have not yet been priveleged to see. 'Twer written in braille however...
(apologies to Woody Allen)
[Fuck! I'm not looking up how to spell "priveleged" or whatever it is, deal]
The munchkins are a bunch of whiny little fucks. Them and the fucking Oompa Loompas. Fuck them.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:20 pm | #
Racist.
You should definitely watch the Rose Bowl while listending to "The White Album."
"Oceans suck, just like this blog. And whales.
NT'odd (Mandatier)"
and michigan
jdw | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:19 pm
Go Bucks!
Hail to the Victors gets the treatment it deserves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h?
v=6RWOokDHY9I
Until you have seen drive-thru ATM machines equipped with braille keys, you have not lived.
And the Cowardly Lion is definitely gay. No question.
Immmmmmposserus!
The lollipop guild is a union. Don't fuck with them.
gwb:drf
He's just a "Dandy Lion!"
Could someone just score a touchdown?
The lollipop guild and the lullaby league have kept non-union Wal-Mart out of Munchkin Land.
gwb:drf
Nuke the Whales!
(OK, that's old)
.
Until you have seen drive-thru ATM machines equipped with braille keys, you have not lived.
I
Am
Alive!
You should definitely watch the Rose Bowl while listending to "The White Album."
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:23 pm | #
Dude, you haven't experienced "The White Album" 'til you've listened to it while reading "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" and eating Funyans.
The tin man is the flouncer IMHO.
Oh and these announcers are boooooorrrriiiinnnnggggg
Oh and these announcers are boooooorrrriiiinnnnggggg
My HS marching band used to play Go U Northwestern (it was the melody for our alma mater), and Hang on Sloopy (fashioned after the OSU band's rendition).
OK that band did not suck.
The Lollipop Guild are a bunch of FUCKING PUSSIES.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:21 pm | #
Coincidentally, that was the part I got in the high school production.
The munchkins are a bunch of whiny little fucks.
I like their Coroner though. Sticklers for the law.
Could someone just score a touchdown?
OSU scored a few.
You should definitely watch the Rose Bowl while listending to "The White Album."
"Number Nine, number Nine, number Nine..."
I like their Coroner though. Sticklers for the law.
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:26 pm | #
They should've had him look at Ol' Man Mose. As far as I know, no one ever figured out if he was actually dead.
I like their Coroner though. Sticklers for the law.
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:26 pm | #
They should've had him look at Ol' Man Mose. As far as I know, no one ever figured out if he was actually dead.
Until you have seen drive-thru ATM machines equipped with braille keys, you have not lived.
Gomez
You have not seen everything, until you see someone driving a car tyring to use the braille writing.
OSU scored a few.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Now *that's* football.
Great. SC goes for the FG.
The Lollipop Guild are a bunch of FUCKING PUSSIES.
Peter Dinklage is en route to your house to kick your ass.
Or maybe something that converts the thing to assci vid or somesuch......
UNE_SugaredPancakesmitRaisins™
ASCII-art animated GIFs.
Currently I'm watching the Rutgers game, and "Apocalypse Now Redux" on Bravo, and blogging.
What should I listen to?
Currently I'm watching the Rutgers game, and "Apocalypse Now Redux" on Bravo, and blogging.
What should I listen to?
Could someone just score a touchdown?
Deacon Blues
Melissa?
.
You should definitely watch the Rose Bowl while listending to "The White Album."
"Number Nine, number Nine, number Nine..."
You become naked...
You have not seen everything, until you see someone driving a car tyring to use the braille writing.
David (Austin Tx)
Neither has the driver.
Ever wonder why the saudis get a pass on everything?
What should I listen to?
Culture of Truth
I recommend some Doors.
Buckeye, Blue State: wasn't that sweet? despite osu trying to give the game away with two cheesy turnovers on bad snaps, and three shitty calls from the refs, they still pull it out.
otherwise they woulda won by 14-17.
i give mi props, tho. they played a great game. too bad mi sucks and they have to be coached by 'tressel's got yer number and yer a watb' carr.
You have not seen everything, until you see someone driving a car tyring to use the braille writing.
David (Austin Tx)
May not have seen everything, but it's a damn sight more than that driver sees...
And the Cowardly Lion is definitely gay. No question.
Culture of Truth
Will he ever get the courage to ask the wistful, doe-eyed Tin Man out?
Will the Scarecrow ever stop the dirty uncle bit, faking those falls just to cop a feel off of Dorothy?
Will Dorothy learn that although she's been told that the Wizard is what she wants, the Wicked Witch will give her true happiness?
Alas, she'll run home to Kansas and marry Zeke, and learn to clam up about her outre demimonde friends in Oz, lest the PTA takes her off the phone tree.
What should I listen to?
The Doors: This Is The End.
What should I listen to?
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:28 pm | #
This.
smalfish owes me a Coke.
I think I am gonna smoke some mary-wanna and come back with a bucket of popcorn and enjoy the trippy pillow fight.
Though I really need to see if those mescalin futures I bought with those magic beans are still redeemable.
yaqui yaqui yaqui.
.
Deacon, regular Coke, or Diet?
Who knew Rick Astley was such a bad ass?
Cal fumbles, SC can't pick it up, they stagger 20 yards backwards in a clusterfuck, and Cal retains the ball on a personal foul against SC. This game sux.
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy. Clearly.
I liked Pink Floyd and completely missed the pot culture.
But beer I hit head on.
If I listen to Rick Astley, does that make me GAY?
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy. Clearly.
Yes, they preach tolerance, but then hate witches. They love lollipops, but then hate blowjobs from whores named Candy. They have a yellow brick road, but then hate hybrids.
I'm feeling fine. All I ever have is broth.
And chocolate. Sometimes chocolate and broth.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Well, you've stopped my gob with that, I must say. I'm embarrassed to admit that I have no idea whether or not you are having me on. Touche.
If I listen to Rick Astley, does that make me GAY?
No, but giving head to beer does.
Yeah, it's moi.
Deacon, regular Coke, or Diet?
Elmer, PHD
ummm... Colombian?
Just so you all know: the greatest podcast ever is uploading right now.
"If I listen to Rick Astley, does that make me GAY?"
don't know that person. but if you listen to billy joel or queen or madonna, you have tendencies at the least...
What should I listen to?
Culture of Truth
Whatever YOU like!
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy. Clearly.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:31 pm | #
I heard that the only reason they were in the movie at all was so's they could be gathered in one place and sterilized en masse under the eugenics laws.
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy. Clearly.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:31 pm | #
I heard that the only reason they were in the movie at all was so's they could be gathered in one place and sterilized en masse under the eugenics laws.
Hey, Watertiger! Were your ears burning earlier today?
I've been working on my Manhattan CD, and I sang a song for you.
What the song is...well...you'll just have to wait until December to hear it.
I'm a little concerned about Uncle Smokes...
No, but giving head to beer does.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Thank you. I did not know that.
Beatdown begins in approximately 16 hours.
don't know that person. but if you listen to billy joel or queen or madonna, you have tendencies at the least...
jdw
Uh...yeah!
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy. Clearly.
What they don't tell you is they were fucking *happy* under the Wicked Witch's rule. Then she got killed and that crazy Glenda took over and they're all sucking up to Dororthy sending her signals, like, "kill this bitch too!"
"Uh...yeah!
Deacon Blues"
and i forgot stix...that's definately a tell...
I like Queen. Does that make ME gay?
Buckeye, Blue State: wasn't that sweet? despite osu trying to give the game away with two cheesy turnovers on bad snaps, and three shitty calls from the refs, they still pull it out.
otherwise they woulda won by 14-17.
i give mi props, tho. they played a great game. too bad mi sucks and they have to be coached by 'tressel's got yer number and yer a watb' carr.
jdw | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:29 pm |
I actually didn't watch the game, but better we have carr's number than the other way 'round.
Mayonnaise-marinated seared Ahi with wasabi aioli for dinner at the Blerbs' tonight. With grilled pinapple, foil-roasted plantains with brown sugar and butter, grilled scallions, mesclun salad with close to the last of the tomatoes, and a nice Tokai Friulani.
blerb
You lil' tick bird...
No, but giving head to beer does.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Oh, it's "beer", not "deer" ... well that changes things
"and i forgot stix...that's definately a tell...
jdw |"
I thought that was just poor judgement?
I like Queen. Does that make ME gay?
smalfish
I think if you dress up like one it might.
ASCII-art animated GIFs.
I knew I spelt that rong!
However, I do believe such a program for the conversion exists.
.
Ever wonder why the saudis get a pass on everything?
smalfish
excellent. about time these fuckers were explosed.
I liked Pink Floyd and completely missed the pot culture.
But beer I hit head on.
Damn, Gomez, beer and the Floyd is some skinhead shit.
exploded too
What should I listen to?
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:28 pm | #
This.
Phila | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:30 pm | #
How about this?
What should I listen to?
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:28 pm | #
This.
Phila | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:30 pm | #
How about this?
I think if you dress up like one it might.
I'm not really in the mood tointe. Maybe later.
and i forgot stix...that's definately a tell...
and Steely Dan, don't get me started on that....
wait...
I like Queen. Does that make ME gay?
smalfish
If you listen to them while making love to another man...maybe.
"I like Queen. Does that make ME gay?"
can't be certain. do you enjoy theater? do you do 'jazz hands'? does taffeta and chintz intrigue you?
Alas, she'll run home to Kansas and marry Zeke, and learn to clam up about her outre demimonde friends in Oz, lest the PTA takes her off the phone tree.
And one day, she'll walk in on Uncle Henry strutting around in a pair of ruby slippers.
excellent. about time these fuckers were explosed.
Agreed! But I bet Blair gives in and recinds the investigation.
No, but giving head to beer does.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Yeah, but a beer without head, is just wrong.
Beatdown begins in approximately 16 hours.
Quoi? I beatdown every night. Sometimes twice if'n I ain't drunk.
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy. Clearly.
Thers
I heard that the only reason they were in the movie at all was so's they could be gathered in one place and sterilized en masse under the eugenics laws.
Phila
Well, let's hope...
I've been working on my Manhattan CD, and I sang a song for you.
Wheeeeee!
[twirls around apartment - then blows kiss to Uncle Smokes]
You should definitely watch the Rose Bowl while listending to "The White Album."
The White Album is my choice for the best rock album ever.
turn me on dead man...
"Revolution 9" backwards
http://www.earcandymag.com/dedman.htm
allright, i've been saving this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=j0uEeCTC_X0
allright, i've been saving this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=j0uEeCTC_X0
can't be certain. do you enjoy theater? do you do 'jazz hands'? does taffeta and chintz intrigue you?
Are you the head of the Republican party?
...And Rutgers completes another beautiful long-distance pass to the other team!
What's so annoying about the fucking Munchkins is the hypocrisy.
Paging what's-his-name with the male hookers and meth
do you enjoy theater?
I plan on spneding A Day At The Races, where I'm going to Tie Your Mother Down, while I Ride My Bycicle, enjoying some Fat Bottom Girls.
Er, folks....I will never be able to look at "The Wizard of Oz" in the same way.
Quoi? I beatdown every night. Sometimes twice if'n I ain't drunk.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
This one will be on a gridiron.
To the refrain of:
"YUNZ ARE JAGOFFS"
And one day, she'll walk in on Uncle Henry strutting around in a pair of ruby slippers.
watertiger
...and drawling, "Thars no place like Bergdorf's, thars no place like Bergdorf's...."
Cal fumbles, SC can't pick it up, they stagger 20 yards backwards in a clusterfuck, and Cal retains the ball on a personal foul against SC. This game sux.
Deacon Blues | 11.18.06 - 9:31 pm
This was a much more fun Cal game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h?
v=0fZCCAqoSwY
"and i forgot stix...that's definately a tell...
jdw
How about Air Supply?
Queen? Freddie died almost 15 years ago to the day. Dunno how I'm gonna top last year's podcast...
"I plan on spneding A Day At The Races, where I'm going to Tie Your Mother Down, while I Ride My Bycicle, enjoying some Fat Bottom Girls."
Sounds dangerous, but then who wants to live forever?
Damn, Gomez, beer and the Floyd is some skinhead shit.
billy b -blues deluxe
I could see a skinhead as the Pict...
But grooving on PBR and Umma gumma?
A bit of "Wizard of Oz" trivia I love...
the coat Frank Morgan wore as Professor Marvel, which was handpicked from a second-hand clothing rack, once belonged to Oz author L. Frank Baum. The inside pocket had his initials on it. After completion of the film, the coat was presented to Baum's widow who confirmed it was indeed his.
"and i forgot stix...that's definately a tell...
jdw |"
I thought that was just poor judgement?
EkCenTriK"
no. poor judgement might be foreigner.
but stix? probably. manhatten transfer? for sure.
The Emerald city is a sick cult.
I mean, first thing they do is give everyone a makeover.
who doesn't like queen?
How about Air Supply?
David (Austin Tx)"
bwahahaha!
"I plan on spending A Day At The Races, where I'm going to Tie Your Mother Down, while I Ride My Bycicle, enjoying some Fat Bottom Girls."
Sounds dangerous, but then who wants to live forever?
EkCenTriK
It's good to have One Vision.
"I plan on spneding A Day At The Races, ...."
Followed by A Night At The Opera?
Sounds dangerous, but then who wants to live forever?
EkCenTriK
All we are is Radio Gaga.
"All we are is Radio Gaga.
Gomez "
Now I am under pressure to one up that.
Dinner at Incog's home-away-from-home (work) consists of a grilled hamburger with jalapenos I cooked earlier this afternoon.
[twirls around apartment - then blows kiss to Uncle Smokes]
watertiger
Well...the moment you saw me at the Playwright Tavern, you gave me the best hug on the planet. I had to reciprocate somehow.
must preview must preview must preview
This one will be on a gridiron.
To the refrain of:
"YUNZ ARE JAGOFFS"
Gomez
So this is what is meant by "grid your loins"? I am, how you say, new to the English...
Wal-Mart welcomes Sen. Edwards to visit his local Wal-Mart store and explore the extensive line of home electronics as well as the Metro7 line shoes for men and boys.
The Company noted the PlayStation3 is an extremely popular item this Christmas season, and while the rest of America's working families are waiting patiently in line, Senator Edwards wants to cut to the front. While, we cannot guarantee that Sen. Edwards will be among one of the first to obtain a PlayStation3, we are certain Sen. Edwards will be able to find great gifts for everyone on his Christmas list--many at Wal-Mart's "roll-back prices."
Cal 9 SC 6 zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
November 24 will be 15 years since Freddie Mercury died.
That long ago?
Now I am under pressure to one up that.
Radio Googoo?
"November 24 will be 15 years since Freddie Mercury died."
is he still dead?
Hmmm, an exclusive sneak preview of the film Deja Vu. Guess if I see it, it will seem strangely familiar now.
Just so you all know: the greatest podcast ever is uploading right now.
Oh boy, more Evanescence.
So this is what is meant by "grid your loins"? I am, how you say, new to the English...
Elmer, PHD
The loins get cooked at the tailgate party.
And eaten with the pierogies and pigs in a blanket.
"I plan on spneding A Day At The Races, ...."
Followed by A Night At The Opera?
I Want It All.
Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks has written a book called Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism. His conclusions echo all of the other research I've seen:
The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion, live in traditional nuclear families and reject the notion that the government should engage in income redistribution are the most generous Americans, by any measure.
Conversely, secular liberals who believe fervently in government entitlement programs give far less to charity. They want everyone's tax dollars to support charitable causes and are reluctant to write checks to those causes, even when governments don't provide them with enough money.
[L]iberals give less than conservatives in every way imaginable, including volunteer hours and donated blood.
Liberals tend to specialize in giving away other peoples' money.
the moment you saw me at the Playwright Tavern
I thought it was called "Shakespeare's"...
There are trolls, and then there is 'heh'
Ranks right up there at the top of idiocy.
sniff .... sniff.... suddenly it's trooly in here, someone open a window
On the commentary track of This Is Spinal Tap, the guys mention some graffiti they saw in a green room before a show:
"This Freddie Mercury is cold, bring us another one!"
Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks
Ha. Hahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
and Steely Dan, don't get me started on that....
wait...
Deacon Blues | 11.18.06 - 9:38 pm
Well...the moment you saw me at the Playwright Tavern, you gave me the best hug on the planet. I had to reciprocate somehow.
Aw, you.
Liberals tend to specialize in giving away other peoples' money.
And Conservatives give away money that belongs to the Chinese.
Dinner at Incog's home-away-from-home (work) consists of a grilled hamburger with jalapenos I cooked earlier this afternoon.
Ô¿Ô
Samatter, Simon Legree won't let you cook at your desk?
LibeZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Duncan
I thought it was called Shakespeare's"...
"No, I want you to kick me!"
Liberals tend to specialize in giving away other peoples' money.
Get off my fucking roads, bitch!
What is a "Duncan"?
The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion
Yeah, they give to JAYZUS! because they're going the heaven if they do. Christian, who represent about 80% of the US population, have given less than 1% of the cleanup and rebuilding of New Orleans.
According to a study by Professor Hugh Jass of Wotsamatta U., liberals mistreat their pets 57% more often than conservatives do.
If I have all the Mitsy Gayner albums, and that hard to find Ethel Merman bootleg, does that make me gay?
Get off my fucking roads, bitch!
NT'odd (Mandatier)
I think this Duncan is a ghola.
"November 24 will be 15 years since Freddie Mercury died."
is he still dead?
jdw | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:47 pm |
not on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h?
v=xCWW01N8ql4
Joan Jett kicks bootie!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...h?
v=DEhEAvBhdNs
What is a "Duncan"?
I think it's a variety of inbred garden slug.
What is a "Duncan"?
smalfish
A Medicare donut hole?
Ranks right up there at the top of idiocy.
David (Austin Tx)
I don't believe idiocy actually has a top. Idiocy is, like, bottom all the way down...
Hoo boy:
http://www.comcast.net/tv/
index....=itn_weatherman
"No, I want you to kick me!"
Oddly, *I'm* the one who has the bruises...
I am holding my Bollywood Youtube musical numbers in reserve for the next war.
What is a "Duncan"?
I was about to shout out "The world's finest yo-yo1", but then I was afraid I would be misunderstood...
According to a study by Professor Hugh Jass of Wotsamatta U., liberals mistreat their pets 57% more often than conservatives do.
The Kenosha Kid
I think this Duncan is a ghola.
The Tleilaxu are insidious.
Joan Jett kicks bootie!!!
Conner
That woman does not age!
What is a "Duncan"?
smalfish |
There can only be one... now, you, get offfa my mccloud. *with mercury rolling behind the credits*
What is a "Duncan"?
smalfish |
There can only be one... now, you, get offfa my mccloud. *with mercury rolling behind the credits*
Oddly, *I'm* the one who has the bruises...
*snicker*
If I have all the Mitsy Gayner albums, and that hard to find Ethel Merman bootleg, does that make me gay?
bill, tinsel slayer
Well, you've got the bait...but do you have the patience to go queen fishing?
my, this "liberals give less to charity" C&P is getting tiresome.
I was about to shout out "The world's finest yo-yo1", but then I was afraid I would be misunderstood...
Elmer, PHD
We were too poor to have an actual Duncan(TM)....got the generic yo-yo which couldn't do any damn tricks at all.
This frustration embittered me for life.
Oddly, *I'm* the one who has the bruises...
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
but stix? probably. manhatten transfer? for sure.
jdw | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 9:44 pm |
Hey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=kvnvYiEsN6Q
my, this "liberals give less to charity" C&P is getting tiresome.
blerb
If they would pay their taxes without whining we wouldn't need charities.
Oddly, *I'm* the one who has the bruises...
*snicker*
I could go for some candy right now...
"I am holding my Bollywood Youtube musical numbers in reserve for the next war.
Gomez"
i was thinking that next time atrios gets so bored that he starts another one of those wars, he instead uses his time constructively...like putting his fucking blogrole in fucking alphebetical order.
Why aren't Christians rebuilding New Orleans?
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Exercise is important.
David: Yeah, but a beer without head, is just wrong.
It should look like this, about 1/8th inch foam on the surface, and the sides above the surface. And last...
.
How's it going, Incog? Are you doing OK?
According to a study by Professor Hugh Jass of Wotsamatta U., liberals mistreat their pets 57% more often than conservatives do.
The Kenosha Kid
A base canard!
It should look like this, about 1/8th inch foam on the surface, and the sides above the surface. And last...
I had no idea that had been all thought out.
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Just how intelligent is that design??
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Exercise is important.
Yeah, I'm justa little tired of Chuck Norris's Total Vagina Gym ads.
What is a "Duncan"?
smalfish
Methinks it tis half a Friedman.
my, this "liberals give less to charity" C&P is getting tiresome.
blerb
I love how some people think repeating this kind of BS makes it true.
The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion,
99% of charities that claim to be christian are too often a scam. money goes directly into pitchmens' pockets instead of going to feed hungry children.
If they would pay their taxes without whining we wouldn't need charities.
Gomez
Sigh. The things we might have made of this world if ou wealth were distributed equitably and all that money were put ot good use.....
Exercise is important.
Point and flex and point and flex...
"Hey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h? v=kvnvYiEsN6Q
Buckeye, Blue State"
there outta be a law...
fuck waterboarding...play that at gitmo...people will break like twigs.
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
Well my rectum has had plenty..... Wait, what now?
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Just how intelligent is that design??
Deacon Blues
The Good Lord intended gay men to be gentle?
Dam finners. My New Year's resolution will be to start using preview....
According to a study by Professor Hugh Jass of Wotsamatta U., liberals mistreat their pets 57% more often than conservatives do.
He also predicts* that the Gaymocrats™ will set up a child prostitution ring, to lure unsuspecting members of the minority party**.........
*hyperbole acknowlegment
**follow yer own sick mind
.
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
Spoken by someone who has eaten all the right things.
Exercise is important.
Point and flex and point and flex...
NTodd's "sproing", 4-3-2-...
99% of charities that claim to be christian are too often a scam. money goes directly into pitchmens' pockets instead of going to feed hungry children.
Diamond mines!
How's it going, Incog? Are you doing OK?
blerb
I'm doing wondermus. I'm listening to highschool football on the radio thinking about the hamburger I'm going to have a little later. I didn't bring any mayonaise but I can get that from the diner here...
I could go for some candy right now...
mebbe some fried bananas?
Exercise is important.
Suzanne Somers' thighmaster?
If Rutgers scores a quick 30 points... I still lose my bet.
mebbe some fried bananas?
no flirting!
Why aren't Christians rebuilding New Orleans?
Ô¿Ô
"operation blessing" pat robertson's outfit is getting a government welfare check meant to aid katrina victims. they aint doing shit.
something tells me that Rutgers is not going to play for a national championship.
Point and flex and point and flex...
watertiger
Plavini!
"Those suffering from stomach gas pains should avoid this method, unless they also master ways for expelling air through the esophagus (by belching or eructation) or anus (after learning from posture exercises which most effectively achieve this end as needed)."
So fasssst...
... and I feel like I ought to keep eye out on the local scene, for the weekend...
.
Suzanne Somers' thighmaster?
mmmm....Suzanne Somers' thighs .... the guilty pleasure of the 70s ...
Plavini!
Uh, Ew?
Well, the vagina is designed to take more abuse than the rectum.
Nah. Lynda Carter.
there outta be a law...
fuck waterboarding...play that at gitmo...people will break like twigs.
jdw | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:00 pm
That one? I like that one!
this will be what causes suicides at Gitmo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h?v=1kXTI-
hMVBE
or maybe this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...h?
v=MOuPbXXBTPQ
NTodd's "sproing", 4-3-2-...
Please. I'm a bit too old for...
mebbe some fried bananas?
SPROING!
Thank you Haloscan for fucking up my post into creepy incomprehensibility.
Great lineup on Coast this weekened:
Sat 11.18 >>
Renowned global futurist Dr. James Canton will discuss the top ten trends of the extreme future, which include longevity medicine and climate change.
6-10pm PT Show: Ian welcomes founder of the Kimball College, Glenn Kimball, who'll talk about the important discoveries of the mummy of Joseph, and the Hebrew Pharaohs of Egypt. First Hour: Author Linda Godfrey and Wisconsin contract worker Steve Krueger will share details about the 'Bearwolf' creature he saw on Nov. 9.
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Great lineup on Coast this weekened:
I like when they play tapes of ghosts.
Great lineup on Coast this weekened:
I like when they play tapes of ghosts.
Duncan | 11.18.06 - 9:48 pm
link? backup for your (his) bullshit? didn't think so.
mmmm....Suzanne Somers' thighs .... the guilty pleasure of the 70s ...
That and Bette Davis' eyes.
"operation blessing" pat robertson's outfit is getting a government welfare check meant to aid katrina victims. they aint doing shit.
jello
He's selling shakes and pressing legs
The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion,
The religion of making money.
mmmm....Suzanne Somers' thighs .... the guilty pleasure of the 70s ...
That and Bette Davis' eyes.
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:12 pm
That was 1981, and I preferred Kim Carnes' Vouyer myself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...h?
v=_6s6_zqIOoU
Renowned global futurist Dr. James Canton
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
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Oh yeah!
Right back at you, spammer.
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
Thers, Extant
In the future they will.
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:14 pm | #
The same one that gave Maximos his BS in "Literate Writing."
I like when they play tapes of ghosts.
Gomez
EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomena, is some trippy shit. They walk around in 'haunted' places with digital recording devices and hear short blerbs of ghosts which can't be heard at the time but when played back, can. I don't know if that shit is real but what else can it be?
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
Oral Sex Roberts
The same one that gave Maximos his BS in "Literate Writing."
Wait a minute. That's not a degree program?
Damnit. How much did I spend on that school again?
I don't believe in spirits but maybe it's an electrical 'imprint' of that person that stays on after they're gone...
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
Thers, Extant
Well...whadayaknow....
"Nevertheless, comparatively few new PhDs graduate in Futures Studies each year."
Yeah, cuz the Present Rent needs paying.
I took a course at that school in "Early Shakespeares"
I took a course at that school in "Early Shakespeares"
The same one that gave Maximos his BS in "Literate Writing."
I love Maximos. That level of pretention is actually fairly rarified.
Why aren't Christians rebuilding New Orleans?
Rhetorical, yes?
If not, I would imagine that most of the generous to a fault (money from my own pocket,will not support X , lest a random nigga get a penny, or a gay person enjoy the same rights as I), Xtian types consider Nawlins, the modern day Sodom, and are therefore disinclined to support anything that leaves the cultural history of the city intact.
/windbag
.
.
Is the Wizard of Oz still on? that movie scares the shit out of me. My parents used to have to send my siblings to the neighbors to watch it cause it freaked me out so much.
I don't like the oompa loompas either.
I don't know if that shit is real but what else can it be?
Ô¿Ô | 11.18.06 - 10:17 pm | #
Ummm...not real?
I have a copy of Raudive's Breakthrough...very compelling stuff. I was pretty disappointed when I heard the actual recordings, most of which are incredibly silly-sounding.
I once shot a ghost in Reno just to watch it not die.
I love Maximos. That level of pretention is actually fairly rarified.
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:19 pm | #
He really is just about as good as it gets.
"Nevertheless, comparatively few new PhDs graduate in Futures Studies each year."
Oh. "1975 saw the founding of the first graduate program in futures studies in the United States of America, the M.S. Program in Studies of the Future at the University of Houston-Clear Lake;[9] there followed a year later the M.A. Program in Public Policy in Alternative Futures at the University of Hawaii at Manoa."
For tit's sake...
Anyone named Faith Popcorn should be in futurism or showbiz.
Look, I'm a skeptic about that shit like Art is but I'm going to have an open mind, too.
Oh. "1975 saw the founding of the first graduate program in futures studies in the United States of America, the M.S. Program in Studies of the Future at the University of Houston-Clear Lake;[9] there followed a year later the M.A. Program in Public Policy in Alternative Futures at the University of Hawaii at Manoa."
He held the Jack Mehoffer Chair.
I don't believe in spirits but maybe it's an electrical 'imprint' of that person that stays on after they're gone...
Ô¿Ô | 11.18.06 - 10:18 pm | #
Must be a different sort of electricity than I'm used to...
Plus, it wouldn't explain the claimed ability of the EVP to answer questions...
Evening, Kent. Hope things are going well.
Regarding the post above concerning NOLA. The problem is not that they are fools and wankers: that is a given. The problem remains (nothing has changed) the news media should be shouting their cold indifference and pathetic profiteering from every available outlet. Instead we are given a cheery diet of Emmitt on Dance like a white guy or Katie and Tom getting married . . .
For tit's sake...
I like tits.
I wonder if Doctors of Futures Studies get tired of being asked about pork bellies?
Sorry, folx -- better hang over at NiT for a bit. Want to cover the coverable, since I'm making $100 for the work.
.
Actually, Sara Robinson, co-blogging at Dave Neiwert's blog, Orcinus is a futurist.
I like tits.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
I could go for a cracking pair of Norks right now.
Look, I'm a skeptic about that shit like Art is but I'm going to have an open mind, too.
Ô¿Ô | 11.18.06 - 10:23 pm | #
How does recognizing certain claims as silly prevent you from having an open mind?
I like to think I'm a pretty friendly person, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to be nice to every person I meet, no matter how they act.
For all the old hippies: this is nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h?
v=yVpRzGylwwc
I like tits.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
I could go for a cracking pair of Norks right now.
Gomez
Here ya go!
Thers, I think you'll enjoy this. Somewhat.
Whatever. You're not going to be rude to everyone, either...
I'm listening to highschool football on the radio thinking about the hamburger I'm going to have a little later. I didn't bring any mayonaise but I can get that from the diner here...
What is this, a cheap detective novel?
Speaking of which, "Dead Men Wear Plaid" is on TCM right now...
Renowned global futurist Dr. James Canton
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
Thers, Extant
And does he lecture from the Dais of Future Passed?
How about some Islamofascistterroristloving music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h?
v=SwZZPUk4C1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h?
v=qtNnhXxHr7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...h?
v=UzNrs8dt6oU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=fpJcuivFuow
And does he lecture from the Dais of Future Passed?
Elmer, PHD
Yeah, he's the Moody Blues Endowed Scholar.
I like to think I'm a pretty friendly person, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to be nice to every person I meet, no matter how they act.
Stop being sensible.
That and Bette Davis' eyes.
That was 1981
Holy shit, where do the time go?
Renowned futurist John Maynard Keynes once said:
"In the long run we are all dead."
What university, exactly, awards advanced degrees in "futurism"?
The University of Phoenix, online.
Speaking of which, "Dead Men Wear Plaid" is on TCM right now...
dave™©
"Cleaning woman....Cleaning woman!"
"You know how to dial, don't you? You just put your finger in the hole and make a tiny little circle..."
Whatever. You're not going to be rude to everyone, either...
Ô¿Ô | 11.18.06 - 10:29 pm | #
Of course not. You apply standards. Someone seems a little standoffish, you realize he or she might be shy or having a bad day, and not overreact. But if someone completely ignores you and sits there picking his nose while making rooster noises, you're probably going to think "This person seems kinda nuts."
I took a course at that school in "Early Shakespeares"
"I went to a diner that advertised 'breakfast served any time.' So I ordered French toast during the Renaissance."
[/Steven Wright]
Anyhoo, what's up tonight?
Hullo. I'm back.
Is NTodd still a wanker?
Hullo. I'm back.
Is NTodd still a wanker?
But if someone completely ignores you and sits there picking his nose while making rooster noises, you're probably going to think "This person seems kinda nuts."
No, I'm going to think that's my idiot boss.
Stop being sensible.
Shouldn't that be "Stop Making Sense"?
Talk about blowing a punchline!
Stop being sensible.
Shouldn't that be "Stop Making Sense"?
Talk about blowing a punchline!
Hullo. I'm back.
Is NTodd still a wanker?
flory, keeper of the list
Who among us does not love wanker?
Is NTodd still a wanker?
Probably. Let's ask watertiger and Thers. They saw him last.
Talk about blowing a punchline!
I was actually being serious.
"I went to a diner that advertised 'breakfast served any time.' So I ordered French toast during the Renaissance."
I hope your brother makes it through OK.
Anyway, everyone knows that centaurs can't tell jokes.
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
Anyhoo, what's up tonight?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:35 pm | #
Pinot noir and pinhole photography at my place. Along with the usual anxiety attacks.
I hope your brother makes it through OK.
Me too. How is he?
I hope your brother makes it through OK.
Thanks, mate.
Robots are taking over the Earth
The University of Phoenix, online.
Whew! For a minute there, I thought you were going to say University Of Phoenix Stadium.
Me too. How is he?
He feels fine. Surgery is on Tuesday. I told him I'll smuggle in a pumpkin pie on Thursday.
Pinot noir and pinhole photography at my place. Along with the usual anxiety attacks.
I've been thinking about buying a Holga. Also, on the pinhole thing, in one of my photography classes there was a guest lecture by a professor from the architecture school who makes his advanced students build a pin hole camera.
Cool, but I'm not sure what the fuck that has to do with architecture. I never got a straight answer out of him.
So, shameles self-promotion, in the hopes of seeing a couple of Atriots while the opportunity exists, I will be at the Grand Opening of the 59th St. bridge Food Emporium, which, I must say, is a lefty snob's paradise. I had very good sashimi for lunch for $12. Anyway, I will be playing with my trio Vuélo, doing our flamenco-jazz take on songs we all know, with a first-class rhythm section, from 10am-6pm. We are on the balcony, which has seating and casual table layouts, for lunching or having some tea. It's really quite a thing. I've been having a ball for the last 2 days. Come visit.
Who among us does not love wanker?
Uncle Smokes
I have very fond feelings towards many a wanker.
Didn't P-stabagel have a trademark symbol, too?
What is it with these schmucks?
Grr, don't you hate it when work intrudes on your online activities? Be back later...
I don't like the oompa loompas either.
Jill
"Augustus Gloop....Augustus Gloop..."
I told him I'll smuggle in a pumpkin pie on Thursday.
Take him some pecan pie too!!
That will fix him right up.
Thers, I think you'll enjoy this. Somewhat.
Phila
I could get papers like that published but then I wouldn't ever be able to tell if I was putting me on.
What is it with these schmucks?
They are ugly and no one likes them.
Also they are too stupid to live.
I've been thinking about buying a Holga.
Did you see the Holga links at my place this week?
Did you see the Holga links at my place this week?
I did, which is why I brought it up.
WT -- what's going on with your brother?
But if someone completely ignores you and sits there picking his nose while making rooster noises, you're probably going to think "This person seems kinda nuts."
Republican, huh?
I did, which is why I brought it up.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:42 pm | #
I see.
Yeah, I was kind of lusting after one myself....
WT -- what's going on with your brother?
He has a variety of plushy disease, though his prognosis is much better than Maxx's.
He has a variety of plushy disease, though his prognosis is much better than Maxx's.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:44 pm | #
Yikes. Sorry to hear it, WT. My best to both of you.
Yeah, I was kind of lusting after one myself....
The thing that's stopped me is that I don't have access to a dark room at the moment.
I think it would be more fun if I could do the printing myself.
He has a variety of plushy disease, though his prognosis is much better than Maxx's.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Oh, no. Well, here's to good prognoses....
...and to plushy kitties....
Speaking of plushy, you all will be happy to hear that Mr. Plushy has been cleaning his plate the past few days.
I think it would be more fun if I could do the printing myself.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:45 pm | #
I've always been interested in doing that. But I'm too lazy and/or distracted to use my digital camera, most of the time.
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
Oops! Speaking of blowing...
Now dialed into "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid"
Oops! Speaking of blowing...
You know how to...
I've always been interested in doing that. But I'm too lazy and/or distracted to use my digital camera, most of the time.
I carry my camera everywhere, but I've been too busy to actually use it, except for at some stupid, boring events.
Though I did get to take pictures of Molly Ivins the other night. And of one of my heros, Ben Sargent.
Just now, Detrot Fox affiliate reports use of loud music to torture concentration camp inmates; they do this by way of chatting about Eminem in an entertainment segment since he's one of the artists whose music they use.
WT -- what's going on with your brother?
Operable, curable tumor on his liver. As I pointed out earlier, his positive spirit and can-do attitude gives everyone around him nothing but hope.
Molly is very ill. First Ann Richards and now Ivins.
And idiots like Kay Bailey will probably live forever.
Speaking of plushy, you all will be happy to hear that Mr. Plushy has been cleaning his plate the past few days.
love the coy shot.
As I pointed out earlier, his positive spirit and can-do attitude gives everyone around him nothing but hope.
He's going to be just fine. Mr. Plushy says so.
love the coy shot.
Thanks.
Perhaps Ho Chi Minh gave us the Chimp.
http://
www.democraticunderground...ess=102x2621682
I carry my camera everywhere, but I've been too busy to actually use it, except for at some stupid, boring events.
I used to carry 'em everywhere and take tons of pictures. But then I was hiking up a mountain in Kyoto, when all the maple trees were changing color. I was going to take a picture, and the Japanese woman I was with said something like "I'd never take a picture of this, because then I'd remember the picture instead of the real colors." I took a bunch anyway, but it kinda soured me on things...
Well, I must dilly dally elsewhere.
Y'all take care of your good selves, especially Watertiger and her brother.
He's going to be just fine. Mr. Plushy says so.
All hail Mr. Plushy!
He's determined to be fine, so that's half the battle.
haha! walmart got busted.
A complaint filed with the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Tuesday charges that Wal-Mart, the nation's No. 1 food retailer, consistently mislabels a handful of nonorganic products as organic.
told ya so
told ya so
told ya walmart couldn't be trusted.
Angry Irishman Richard Seymour compiles phone cam police brutality.
Molly is very ill. First Ann Richards and now Ivins.
Texas is toxic. We need to get the rest of you guys out of there.
Whassa matter with Molly?
He's determined to be fine, so that's half the battle.
watertiger | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 10:53 pm | #
It really is. A guy I know who has that same attitude is completely better after treatment for Hodgkin's. It's pretty amazing how much effect being determined actually has on the outcome....
Whassa matter with Molly?
A reoccurrence of breast cancer.
She's just gone through a second round of chemo and some experimental treatment.
we're hammered
Operable, curable tumor on his liver. As I pointed out earlier, his positive spirit and can-do attitude gives everyone around him nothing but hope.
watertiger
Good for him. That's half the battle right there.
Good karma heading your way.
It's pretty amazing how much effect being determined actually has on the outcome....
Yup. Having grown up during a time when cancer was considered a death sentence, it takes quite a bit to wrap one's brain around the fact that we've come an incredibly long way in the treatment thereof.
He's determined to be fine, so that's half the battle.
watertiger
Guess I owe you a coke.
All hail Mr. Plushy!
We should all welcome and worship our plushy overlord.
Having grown up during a time when cancer was considered a death sentence, it takes quite a bit to wrap one's brain around the fact that we've come an incredibly long way in the treatment thereof.
Ahh yes! Interfurion. Mankinds gift to itself. Talk about waterboarding!
Yup. Having grown up during a time when cancer was considered a death sentence, it takes quite a bit to wrap one's brain around the fact that we've come an incredibly long way in the treatment thereof.
Yup, they can do amazing things these days.
Hey, Walt, love your cameo in "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid"!
lotta regulars here tonight.
Guess I owe you a coke.
Heh. Who luvs ya, baby?
A complaint filed with the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Tuesday charges that Wal-Mart, the nation's No. 1 food retailer, consistently mislabels a handful of nonorganic products as organic.
told ya so
told ya so
told ya walmart couldn't be trusted.
jello
That is so fucking stoopit of them. They had a chance to not only greatly expand their customer base but also to charge premium markups on commodity items.
If this is true, who the hell is gonna trust them again?
The suckiest podcast that ever sucked.
Fixed your typo...
and the Japanese woman I was with said something like "I'd never take a picture of this, because then I'd remember the picture instead of the real colors." I took a bunch anyway, but it kinda soured me on things...
Hmmm. That woman was a spoilsport.
Whassa matter with Molly?
A reoccurrence of breast cancer.
She's just gone through a second round of chemo and some experimental treatment.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
While Coulter stays healthy.
Unfair!
While Coulter stays healthy.
Unfair!
I have high hopes that the excess amount of bile in her system will eventually kill her.
The suckiest podcast that ever sucked, recorded by the wankeist wanker that ever wanked.
Fixed your typo...
dave™©
...completed the thought for you.
Just now, Detrot Fox affiliate reports use of loud music to torture concentration camp inmates; they do this by way of chatting about Eminem in an entertainment segment since he's one of the artists whose music they use.
ypecak
No K-Fed?
They do some of the best liver work in the world at Sloan. He couldn't be in a better place.
Hmmm. That woman was a spoilsport.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:01 pm | #
Yeah. I think she's got a point about things like sunsets, trees, and so on (the colors in Kyoto were indescribable; the colors in the photo were kind of bland). But I mostly take pictures of signs, buildings, people, etc. So it's not really an issue.
and the Japanese woman I was with said something like "I'd never take a picture of this, because then I'd remember the picture instead of the real colors." I took a bunch anyway, but it kinda soured me on things...
You know she totally high-fived her friend after you turned around...
While Coulter stays healthy.
Unfair!
I have high hopes that the excess amount of bile in her system will eventually kill her.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
You and me both!
Trademark Dave and flory are trolls.
While Coulter stays healthy.
Unfair!
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:01 pm | #
She may not have a disease, but she's not healthy.
Hmmm. That woman was a spoilsport.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Not really. Different philosophy. I went thru a lot of internal debates about that in Ireland. There were a lotta stunning views I didn't take pitchers of because I wanted to see them thru my eyes, not my camera.
There were also a lot I took pitchers of.....
While Coulter stays healthy.
Unfair!
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:01 pm | #
She may not have a disease, but she's not healthy.
While Coulter stays healthy.
Unfair!
Terry C, American Once Again
She may not have a disease, but she's not healthy.
Phila
True, dat.
She may not have a disease, but she's not healthy.
Phila
Yet she lives. That alone tells me there is no god.
They do some of the best liver work in the world at Sloan.
Yup. Like I said, he puts himself in the best hands.
I, for one, am glad that he's able to.
here were a lotta stunning views I didn't take pitchers of because I wanted to see them thru my eyes, not my camera.
Y'know, the two ain't mut'lay 'scuslive.
Trademark Dave and flory are trolls.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Say bye-bye to this months vote....
She may not have a disease, but she's not healthy.
Phila
Yet she lives. That alone tells me there is no god.
flory, keeper of the list
The fact that Bush even made it to the White House told me that.
Not really. Different philosophy. I went thru a lot of internal debates about that in Ireland. There were a lotta stunning views I didn't take pitchers of because I wanted to see them thru my eyes, not my camera.
I guess I should explain- I don't take pictures to help myself remember, because the camera is a whole different way of seeing.
One doesn't negate the other, IMHO.
The greatest podcast ever.
Pffft. Podcast? what's next? a blog?
Texas is toxic. We need to get the rest of you guys out of there.
I'm ready to leave. Just need a job.
Y'know, the two ain't mut'lay 'scuslive.
Oh dear.
Prepare for the apocolypse. Ntodd and I agree on a photography matter.
Y'know, the two ain't mut'lay 'scuslive.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
They kinda are. Once you've taken the picture, that's your memory -- two dimensional, cropped, over or underexposed, etc etc.
Without the picture, you have a different memory.
I'm ready to leave. Just need a job.
I'm ready to leave too.
She may not have a disease, but she's not healthy.
He/she/it IS a disease.
fourlegs is a troll. Or a centaur. Or a wanker.
They kinda are. Once you've taken the picture, that's your memory -- two dimensional, cropped, over or underexposed, etc etc.
Oh, no. Not at all.
That's absolutely not true for me.
They kinda are. Once you've taken the picture, that's your memory -- two dimensional, cropped, over or underexposed, etc etc.
If you ONLY experience the scene via the viewfinder, then yes. If you see it, pre-vis the shot, shoot it, look again, then it can exist in multiple planes.
Really.
fourlegs is a troll. Or a centaur. Or a wanker.
Or possibly all of the above.
NTodd's post of "Washington" freaks me out.
Shooting a scene never alters the reality of the 3-D experience for me.
I am not a troll. I am a human being.
I guess I should explain- I don't take pictures to help myself remember, because the camera is a whole different way of seeing.
One doesn't negate the other, IMHO.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
That's probably the difference between a photographer and a person with a camera. You guys take the pictures for reasons other than recording the view.
The rest of us try.....
I might finally get a real DSLR!
Trademark Dave and flory are trolls.
Only a troll would say that ! You're the real troll!! You're the trolliest troll that ever trolled!!!
Molly Ivors is a troll. And I'd hit it.
I actually don't need a camera -- I have a photogenic memory.
Odd thought that I'm not a good enough photographer to think about all that stuff flory says alters the memory. I say, Jeez that's pretty, and I fire the point-and-shoot. Stood in awe before an Ansel Adams picture at the Museum of Fine Arts, then read in the note that he'd managed the shot because he remembered the right exposure for moonlight in the day when all was manual. Man seemed such a second thought in the image, constructed though it was with high art...
Prepare for the apocolypse. Ntodd and I agree on a photography matter.
Do you think I should duck and cover?
Y'know, the two ain't mut'lay 'scuslive.
What NTodd and 4Lg said.
Trademark Dave is quick to call someone a troll.
Trolls troll on the trollies as the trolly trolls tra-la-la.
BTW, I wouldn't get my hopes up about that WalMart story... looks like pretty thin gruel...
And I'd hit it.
I keep forgetting to kill you. Why is that?
Man, we're getting a lot of trolls tonight, and wankers.
WTF...Rutgers gets creamed by Cincinnati?
Trademark Dave is quick to call someone a troll.
Quick as a fox!
I have in my hand a list of 57 known troll agents now trolling this board!!!
That's probably the difference between a photographer and a person with a camera. You guys take the pictures for reasons other than recording the view.
That's probably true, though sometimes I do just want to record the scene.
I can't always explain why I shoot some things the way I do. And I can NEVER explain what Eli is up to.
Stood in awe before an Ansel Adams picture at the Museum of Fine Arts, then read in the note that he'd managed the shot because he remembered the right exposure for moonlight in the day when all was manual. Man seemed such a second thought in the image, constructed though it was with high art...
I got through my college science requirement partly via a course called "The Physics of Photography." My term paper was on Ansel Adams and the Zone Sysytem.
NTodd's post of "Washington" freaks me out.
That motherfucker had, like, thirty goddamned dicks.
WTF...Rutgers gets creamed by Cincinnati?
joisey boy
Ha ha, it's a Buckeye night, youse.
Man, we're getting a lot of trolls tonight, and wankers.
Apart from us two there's nothing but wanking trolls, and trollish wankers.
I actually don't need a camera -- I have a photogenic memory.
Thers, Extant
Actually shouted in anger at a teachers' meeting I attended. Course the highlight of that meeting was the Kindergarten teacher (later arrested for being a pedophile) telling the SPED teacher he would take her crutch and shove it up her ass.
God, I really hate teachers' meetings
Rutgers gets creamed by Cincinnati?
I am so out of it that when they said they were going to show highlights of the first half of the Rutgers game on the sports news earlier, I said "Rutgers? Who gives a shit about Rutgers?"
Y'know, the two ain't mut'lay 'scuslive.
What NTodd and 4Lg said.
watertiger
This is why I could spend two weeks in a country as photogenic as Ireland and come home with fewer than 80 pictures....
WTF...Rutgers gets creamed by Cincinnati?
joisey boy
Cincinnati's suckiness has been sucked up by the Browns, therefore causing them to not suck.
Molly Ivors is a troll.
One look at my furry troll ass and you'd be off; I know that.
I keep forgetting to kill you. Why is that?
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:15 pm | #
You keep getting distracted by Molly's sempiternal loveliness.
Texas is toxic. We need to get the rest of you guys out of there.
Does'nt seem I can ever leave now. I just bought a second truck to help my business. It seems that we grew quite a bit in the last few months. Now we are stuck here forever.
Guess we just need to turn Texas blue.
I keep forgetting to kill you. Why is that?
Thers, Extant
You've been busy with The Big Project. Now that it's over you can take care of those pesky little details.
lipreader is a troll.
Mmmm, furry troll ass.
But the Browns suck in an absolute and not a relative way, so that even against the Lions they would really suck. We don't follow football and we know that.
Germermens.
You're all trolls.
Bleh.
Stood in awe before an Ansel Adams picture at the Museum of Fine Arts, then read in the note that he'd managed the shot because he remembered the right exposure for moonlight in the day when all was manual.
The thing about Ansel Adams is that he shot pretty much the same subject for most of his life.
So he got lots of practice. I think his true genius lay in his printmaking. Most of the amazingly gorgeous stuff you see in the museums today was printed in the last 20 years of his life from negatives he had shot long before.
I keep forgetting to kill you. Why is that?
Because yer a stoopit lout.
And I can NEVER explain what Eli is up to.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Heh. Try spending an afternoon wandering around Manhattan with him.....
You keep getting distracted by Molly's sempiternal loveliness.
I'm ethereally transcendent, motherfucker!
Bleh.
Central Scrutinizer | 11.18.06 - 11:20 pm | #
Fuck you, troll!
lipreader is a troll.
NT'odd (Mandatier
At least I'm fully dressed.
But the Browns suck in an absolute and not a relative way, so that even against the Lions they would really suck. We don't follow football and we know that.
ypecak
The Steelers are in close proximity to the Browns thereby causing them to contract the usual Browns suckiness and suck also.
This is why I could spend two weeks in a country as photogenic as Ireland and come home with fewer than 80 pictures....
That's astonishing to me.
I shot 100 frames Wednesday night at a really visually boring lecture.
I'm ethereally transcendent, motherfucker!
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:21 pm | #
As Maximos would say, "Therein lies the aporia."
Actually shouted in anger at a teachers' meeting I attended. Course the highlight of that meeting was the Kindergarten teacher (later arrested for being a pedophile) telling the SPED teacher he would take her crutch and shove it up her ass.
You might consider dialing down the passion a notch.
"This one goes to negative 11..."
Mmmm, furry troll ass.
smalfish
It's more like down.
4lg: most photographers I've met view the darkroom as the place they really exercise their craft, and complain that they have inordinate numbers of negatives that need attention there.
Trolls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YTlJsa2Djc8
Fuck you, troll!
Phila
Oh, I see, the troll calling the kettle troll.
A Kirsty MacColl video... sigh. Wow.
I'm ethereally transcendent, motherfucker!
Molly Ivors
And eternally gracious.
I am not a troll...
Heh. Try spending an afternoon wandering around Manhattan with him.....
Well, I plan on doing that this spring. It should be interesting to see the difference of what we shoot.
I generally photograph life (of some kind) while he's drawn to manhole covers and other odd things.
I'm ethereally transcendent, motherfucker!
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:21 pm | #
Also, I should add in deference to Incog that people who fuck their mothers are offended by this use of the word "motherfucker."
I will say that even though I'm not a fan of college football that THE Ohio State Buckeyes are the greatest team ever. Any sport.
OK, I'm glad they won.
Battle Trolls!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h?
v=LzUmA1bewLg
I just took 217 shots of my pants.
The Steelers are in close proximity to the Browns thereby causing them to contract the usual Browns suckiness and suck also.
Gomez teaches a course called "The Physics of Suckiness," which Liberal Arts students use to evade their science requirement.
I am not a troll...
Richard Nixon |
GET BEHIND ME SATAN.
Wait. On second thought that's not a good idea these days.
I shot 100 frames Wednesday night at a really visually boring lecture.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
This is why I in no way consider myself a photographer.
It's more like down.
Molly Ivors
Do you molt?
Oh, I see, the troll calling the kettle troll.
Central Scrutinizer | 11.18.06 - 11:23 pm | #
I'm not a troll. I'm a passionate defender of everything that's true and good.
Big difference.
4lg: most photographers I've met view the darkroom as the place they really exercise their craft, and complain that they have inordinate numbers of negatives that need attention there.
It's true.
There is nothing like the joy of printing a truly great print.
Liberals tend to
Liberals tend to encourage the better angels of our nature, while conservatives put sick orphans in the workhouse and lie about it.
Fixed your lie ... bitch.
Also, I should add in deference to Incog that people who fuck their mothers are offended by this use of the word "motherfucker."
Man, you fuck ONE mother...
It's more like down.
I'd lay in it!
Good God, this is just pathetic.
Can we start a countdown on how soon that blithering idiot imitating Altmouse starts billing and cooing about it?
people who fuck their mothers are offended by this use of the word "motherfucker."
I picture him as the Cowardly Lion.
so, why has itunes gone all blue? what was wrong with green? is it a political statement?!?!
NTodd just shot an elephant in his pants.
What he was doing in his pants he has no idea.
You're all trolls.
Why, you're nothing but a deck of cards!
aw, fer cute.
(just pic)
Well, I plan on doing that this spring. It should be interesting to see the difference of what we shoot.
One of you will have to post up a gallery of your divergent takes on the afternoon.
Should be fascinating.
I can't wait for the day after Thanksgiving... that's when they always show "The Concern Trolls Save Christmas from the PC Thugs" on Fox.
It's troll-er-iffic!
Do you molt?
Just in Spring.
Penguins are gay.
aw, fer cute.
Awwww. Mr. Plushy's pibbles!!
What he was doing in his pants he has no idea.
Well, somebody's got to wear them...
Penguins are gay.
And yer point is?
Played in a darkroom once when I was a kid. It was magic, watching the image form. Doubtless if you grow up with Photoshop and like that, you feel the same way and can do great stuff, but it wouldn't seem the same to me without the smell of chemicals, the darkness and the utterly amazing fact that you can make a piece of paper show you something that hadn't been there a moment before with the right potion...
One of you will have to post up a gallery of your divergent takes on the afternoon.
Should be fascinating.
I agree.
I was a Browns fan for nearly 40 years. But then the general shittiness of other Browns fans (and the fact they are now the Ravens) did me in.
Penguins are gay.
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:27 pm | #
You would know, you faggot fairy nancy boy.
aw, fer cute.
(just pic)
watertiger
Family connection?
Liberals tend to encourage the better angels of our nature,
In September, 2005, at EschaCon, we had a picnic, and our picnic area was full of, well, crap (broken glass, butts, condoms). We cleaned it up, because we're liberals, who leave the world better than we found it.
You might consider dialing down the passion a notch.
"This one goes to negative 11..."
NT'odd (Mandatier)
NT'odd, honestly: these words were actually uttered. I just keep my mouth shut as much as possible at these events.
The staff had turned really toxic at this particular school. Pretty much everyone hated everyone else. Makes teaching so much fun.
Penguins are gay.
saw something somewhere that there is a kerfluffle about a book saying just that. basically, religious groups are up in arms.
religious groups are really silly.
You might consider dialing down the passion a notch.
"This one goes to negative 11..."
NT'odd (Mandatier)
NT'odd, honestly: these words were actually uttered. I just keep my mouth shut as much as possible at these events.
The staff had turned really toxic at this particular school. Pretty much everyone hated everyone else. Makes teaching so much fun.
Gays are penguins.
OT: really liked 'Happy Feet', to which I took the 9 and 10 yo's. A lot of people are going to see that movie in late shows having been properly premedicated...
White Whale has a good sound, but they make me feel old. Back in '77 or so when slick producers started slumming the Lower East Side with the intent of skimming the most pop-sounding bamds...well, I never thought that would someday be a classix retro style.
Good singer too, with that tentative, reticent Ray Davies cadence, a bit shy even offering the words up, like a kid presenting a homemade gift
The one out-of-kilter element for me is the choice of synth. I wish they had opted for the retro keyboard of'77: a '60s mellotron. Does that make sense in terms of displaced "authenticity"?
Played in a darkroom once when I was a kid. It was magic, watching the image form. Doubtless if you grow up with Photoshop and like that, you feel the same way and can do great stuff, but it wouldn't seem the same to me without the smell of chemicals, the darkness and the utterly amazing fact that you can make a piece of paper show you something that hadn't been there a moment before with the right potion...
Yeah. And honestly, you learn an astonishing amount about photography from the experience.
I think a lot of kids will never be exposed to it and will be poorer photographers as a result. Not that I don't love digital.
Penguins are gay.
They're festive.
We cleaned it up, because we're liberals, who leave the world better than we found it.
c'mon, now, you know you did it only for political advantage.
Penguins are gay.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Psst. Hockey players don't like being called GAY.
Well, he asked for it:
Two decades after being chosen as People magazine's first sexiest man alive, Mel "Sugar Tits" Gibson now tops a very different kind of list: Film Threat's annual "Frigid 50: The Coldest People in Hollywood."
The independent film Web site on Friday named Gibson No. 1 among the "least-powerful, least-inspiring, least-intriguing people in all of Tinseltown," following the anti-Semitic remarks he made during his arrest on suspicion of drunken driving.
"He apologized, he got sick of apologizing, he refused to apologize anymore, he didn't want to address the issue, he spoke on nationally broadcast news shows, he spoke at synagogues, he met with Jewish Officials," Film Threat's editors wrote. "But in the end, in all his `I'm really not anti-Semitic' posturing, he never bothered to address how irresponsible he was for driving under the influence in the first place. And now he's got a new movie opening, `Apocalypto,' and the question becomes: who cares?"
Penguins are gay.
And yer point is?
If you're stuck incubating eggs for 2 months in 30 below weather with no females, ya gotta do something to keep your balls warm.
Penguins are gay.
The best thing about gay penguins is they are cocksuckers, the worst thing about gay penguins is that they are cocksuckers.
In September, 2005, at EschaCon, we had a picnic, and our picnic area was full of, well, crap (broken glass, butts, condoms). We cleaned it up, because we're liberals, who leave the world better than we found it.
Oh. I guess I should apologize for the big dump I took by the tree where we had the picnic, the broken glass from my whiskey bottle, and the IEDs...
aw something somewhere that there is a kerfluffle about a book saying just that. basically, religious groups are up in arms.
Fundies need to get lives.
There are gay animals. Everyone should fucking get over it.
Penguins are gay.
saw something somewhere that there is a kerfluffle about a book saying just that. basically, religious groups are up in arms.
religious groups are really silly.
PoppieProng, Inter Alia
Most of the stuff they believe in runs counter to nature.
I like having sex with the better angel of my nature. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I'm angelsexual.
Cheru-BAM!
I once shot a public school teacher at the bike racks after class just to watch him die.
"Gays are penguins.
NT'odd (Mandatier)"
shut up, stinkass puke oppressor.
go eat soup.
Oh. I guess I should apologize for the big dump I took by the tree where we had the picnic, the broken glass from my whiskey bottle, and the IEDs...
Oh, we found all that stuff. It was the land mines that crippled the kids that I wanted to talk to you about....
i have a very religious client, who happens to be in pretrial detention. he's stunned at the sheer number of people who are in prison for minor possession and wants to know why someone doesn't do something about it. i explained that in no small way religious groups condemn anyone who proposes drug legalization and who advocate for relaxation of criminal penalties. he looked kind of chagrined.
So I finally read The Da Vinci Code.
Dan Brown ripped off the basic plot of just about every Doc Savage novel and just updated it to contemporary times.
Really, set this in the 1930s, have Indiana Jones as the hero, and there's the forth Indy movie.
Still and all, it was a rather a ripping read, and it pissed off William Donohue, so it's all good!
Michael Reagan has this whole spiel he crates around for fundies, which is so Herman Wouk severe that we could not help laughing at it even though it is incredibly tragic and cruel. It is essentially the story of Nancy being an evil bitch. A climax is a molesting boy scout master who gets young Michael interested in photography; the first image he resolves in a dark room, his hand guided by the molester, is a Riefenstahlische outdoor shot of a naked boy scout posing on some rugged rocks.
Mel "Sugar Tits" Gibson now tops a very different kind of list: Film Threat's annual "Frigid 50: The Coldest People in Hollywood."
Guess I won't have any trouble getting tickets to "Apocalypto"...
condoms). We cleaned it up, because we're liberals, who leave the world better than we found it.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:29 pm | #
That's nothing. If conservatives had their way, there would've been no condoms on the ground in the first place.
They're festive.
You know what I like best about penguins? the way they just pop out of the water.
I love watching them do that.
Argentine pillow fight.
Without the "troll" accusations.
That's nothing. If conservatives had their way, there would've been no condoms on the ground in the first place.
Or even a picnic.
You cocksuckers can be so obscure..
That's a compliment.
you can make a piece of paper show you something that hadn't been there a moment before with the right potion
I spent too much time doing process photography for a commercial printer to miss the darkroom experience. Granted it didn't have the artistic element, but I could do without my hands smelling like the chemicals constantly.
ANYONE WITH ONE JOINT ON THEM MUST SPEND TEN TO TWENTY YEARS IN A CELL WITH A RAPIST! IT'S THE ONLY IMAGINABLE WAY!
Cheru-BAM!
Thers, Extant
You're weird.
Oh, we found all that stuff. It was the land mines that crippled the kids that I wanted to talk to you about....
Molly Ivors
Eew. You didn't make him clean up his own steaming shitpile? Or did you just leave it behind as fertilizer?
Argentine pillow fight.
Oh, they had one of those here in Austin a few months ago.
my ninth grade biology teacher showed us a documentary on the great apes which featured lesbian apes. she didn't really comment on it, but in retrospect i think my biology teacher was a lesbian.
So I finally read The Da Vinci Code.
Oh, I'm sorry. Here, have some tea. Do you need opium?
Hanoi George on NBC.
You cocksuckers can be so obscure..
All lurking cocksuckers agree that it's offensive to be called "obscure."
BTW, TVLand is running a "Star Trek" marathon tonight.
"Where No Man Has Gone Before" is up in 30 minutes.
Later bats.
Evening, fellow moonbats.
How goes the Revolution tonight?
Still and all, it was a rather a ripping read, and it pissed off William Donohue, so it's all good!
Okay, now I know ONE person who liked the book.
I like having sex with the better angel of my nature. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I'm angelsexual.
I like having sex with the better angle, myself...
Sadness on beaches
Like a refulgent, sad lycanthrope
My achin' back
ANYONE WITH ONE JOINT ON THEM MUST SPEND TEN TO TWENTY YEARS IN A CELL WITH A RAPIST! IT'S THE ONLY IMAGINABLE WAY!
ypecak | 11.18.06 - 11:34 pm | #
William Bennett had a more economical solution.
"Later bats."
Evening, fellow moonbats.
Man, it's like Grand Central Station here!
And don't nobody be so obtuse the think that I didn't throw a straight line out there, because I'm pretty fucking acute.
he didn't really comment on it, but in retrospect i think my biology teacher was a lesbian.
Okay, that's funny.
I spent too much time doing process photography for a commercial printer to miss the darkroom experience.
I really liked doing pre-digital layput of ads and such, with that wax machine with the hot wires.
4Legs--you're obviously taking very good care of Mr. Plushy. He looks wonderful.
However, I'm rather concerned about Mr. Plushy's slave, er, centaur. How're you?
Apocalypto seems sincerely interesting. Watch the same morons who dismiss it for political reasons trip over themselves to praise whatever becomes the next "Baby Geniuses."
(What research did these Film Threat liars do to decide that Mel's lifelong personal screech about alcoholism suddenly never happened, advice from the Irving-Zundel Institute for Ineptly Dealing With Tragedy?)
Oooh, is it Attempted Haiku night?
Dan Brown ripped off the basic plot of just about every Doc Savage novel
You read "Doc Savage"? I was a big fan as a kid.
And don't nobody be so obtuse the think that I didn't throw a straight line out there, because I'm pretty fucking acute.
Well, that was a protracted joke.
fundies really are funny. we should spend more time laughing at them than being irritated by them.
Okay, now I know ONE person who liked the book.
well, make it 2. i enjoyed it. certainly not high art, but not everything needs to be Ulysses.
'evenin', sallyh: hawaya?
Apocalypto seems sincerely interesting.
Gee, I just wanna see some hearts ripped out of bare-breasted Mayan babes in slow motion...
How goes the Revolution tonight?
Sinfonian | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:35 pm | #
I'm sick of friendly trolls, who come on here asking people how things are going, as though they'd be going other than perfectly.
That's the lowest form of troll there is.
It was the land mines that crippled the kids that I wanted to talk to you about....
Look, I take softball really seriously, so I put out a solid line of defense in the outfield. The 7yo would totally understand what Operation Philadelphia Freedom means...
However, I'm rather concerned about Mr. Plushy's slave, er, centaur. How're you?
I'm feeling a little better, though I still have the chest cold.
I really liked doing pre-digital layput of ads and such, with that wax machine with the hot wires.
Oh, dear God NO!!!
Yep, just call me Casper the Friendly Troll.
So it's actually Everyone's a Troll Night? Cool.
fundies really are funny. we should spend more time laughing at them than being irritated by them.
and that would be taking a page out of their play book. you know, where they laugh at satan instead of fearing him.
like satan gives a flying fuck about what you think of him. either he gets your soul or he doesn't...
he didn't really comment on it, but in retrospect i think my biology teacher was a lesbian.
----
There might have been topics left uncovered that term...
Apocalypto seems sincerely interesting. Watch the same morons who dismiss it for political reasons trip over themselves to praise whatever becomes the next "Baby Geniuses."
Yeah! Fight the power.
ProfWombat--how about a nice Voignier?
well, make it 2. i enjoyed it. certainly not high art, but not everything needs to be Ulysses.
True, dat.
But I hate a book where I guess who the mysterious bad guy is immediately. Always pisses me off.
fox news sunday has chris wallace interviewing John Kerry.
Could interesting.
and
What is pumpkinhead gonna do with Jim Webb and Jon Tester? Try and beat them up on withdrawing troops from Iraq? Probably gonna have some clips from 1912 to attack Webb with. Can't imagine what he has in store for Tester.
Could also be interesting.
"well, make it 2. "
make it 3. lots of unbelievable characters, holes in the plot and general stupidity.
what's not to like?
highbrow hetro stinkass puke baconlovers.
g'night.
Sadness on beaches
Like a refulgent, sad lycanthrope
My achin' back
O, Poignant blogging,
Like an inside joke for us:
Oxycontin rules.
Okay, now I know ONE person who liked the book.
I didn't read the book, but I thought the movie was OK.
It was a pleasant-enough timewaster...
Oooh, is it Attempted Haiku night?
Sinfonian | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:37 pm |
There is no point to
haiku in this tongue because
English lets you rhyme.
that wax machine with the hot wires
We used to run everything we could fit through that thing. If we could have gotten a car through it, we would have. Every loose piece of paper in the office had those waxy stripes all over.
fundies really are funny. we should spend more time laughing at them than being irritated by them.
I dunno. I laughed at 'em a lot in the seventies and eighties. Didn't take 'em seriously at all.
Now, though...
Well, that was a protracted joke.
Great, now I'm all out of compass...
sallyh: that, and your good company would complete the evening...
Drudge excites Repukes
No substance, not even truth
Just "developing ..."
with that wax machine with the hot wires
Keyline Pasteup...been there, done that. With type set by a Compugraphic. And shooting halftones is another thing I don't miss.
Fundies just have waaaaaay too much time on their hands...
But I hate a book where I guess who the mysterious bad guy is immediately. Always pisses me off.
yeah, true enough. you know, i think i just really really really really wanted jesus to have had a kid and for it to be true.
There is no point to
haiku in this tongue because
English lets you rhyme.
Oh yes, indeedy,
It's impossible for the
Nips to fucking rhyme.
But I hate a book where I guess who the mysterious bad guy is immediately. Always pisses me off.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:40 pm | #
Yeah, like the Bible. You can figure out who did it on the first page....
The bacon frying
It's scent wafting redolent
Soothes the back.
Oooh, is it Attempted Haiku night?
Sinfonian
Cocksuckers attempt
Sucking cock to please us all
It ain't happenin'
I dunno. I laughed at 'em a lot in the seventies and eighties. Didn't take 'em seriously at all.
The first time a fundie told me I was going to hell was during government class in 1976.
My relationship with fundies has gone downhill from there.
certainly not high art, but not everything needs to be Ulysses.
Oh, no one enjoys Ulysses, Poppieprong.
not everything needs to be Ulysses.
Well, Ulysses does.
That's a really funny book, by the way.
"So I finally read The Da Vinci Code.
Oh, I'm sorry. Here, have some tea. Do you need opium?"
Oh, I quite enjoyed it! I wasn't expecting great literature, just a rather overhyped pulp adventure.
As a pulp adventure, it works pretty well.
It followed the Lester Dent pulp formula reasonably well.
Had all the right twists and surprises, right down to the identity of the main bad guy.
Granted, Lester Dent or William Gibson could have turned this out in a weekend with a manual typewriter and a quart of cheap scotch, but for someone who isn't a pulp writer, Brown did a reasonably good job writing a halfay decent pulp adventure.
Oh, no one enjoys Ulysses, Poppieprong.
about the only use I got out of Ulysses was to be able to say that i read it. Ik heb Ulysses helemaal geletzen.
fucking Plan II snobbery...
yeah, true enough. you know, i think i just really really really really wanted jesus to have had a kid and for it to be true.
Well, maybe it is true.
I still thought the book sucked.
Cocksuckers attempt
Sucking cock to please us all
It ain't happenin'
Oh, I bet you'd like it.
Now, though...
Phila
I didn't mean to dismiss them. They're scary and dangerous - but also hilarious, really. Perhaps...engage w/scorn and hilarity. Just about everything they say is so contradictory and poorly thought out (if at all) that it's silly - they are silly, their beliefs are silly. Doesn't make them any less dangerous if they have power to kill you, of course.
But, what the fuck do I know, eh?
English is not an especially good language for rhyme, actually. Spanish, Italian, yes. English does better with alliteration & assonance.
Blow me, I beg you big boy:
The caesura, the cunt, I caress.
have we been talking about cocksucking for the past 24 hrs straight...? How *interesting*.
Well, maybe it is true.
I still thought the book sucked.
Trolling for dollars
Nothing much better to do
Fingers stained orange
But, what the fuck do I know, eh?
A great deal.
I didn't mean to dismiss them. They're scary and dangerous - but also hilarious, really.
What, vaginas?
Oh, I bet you'd like it.
Molly Ivors
Well, yeah.
Like I said, it ain't happenin'.
(The Japanese built art out of meter because rhyming is so frequent in their language as to be meaningless. Essentially all verbs in the same tense can have the same ending. Ditto Korean.)
A lot of people wanted Jesus to have had a kid. The book's popularity was surely out of all proportion to its literary virtues, and far more interesting. In an age when the fundies seem to have the microphone more than I'd like, those looking for a kinder, gentler, and entirely heterodox Christianity are out there in greater numbers than is generally credited...
Like I said, it ain't happenin'.
There's a pretty considerable amount of oral sex in these parts.
But, what the fuck do I know, eh?
Sarah Deere, Shrill One | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:44 pm | #
Plenty and then some.
Hi all -- I'm procrastinating on this stupid website editing project I (like an idiot) volunteered for. As if I know crap about editing text for a website.
Anyway, I used to like laying out type with wax & exacto knives too. I used to keep my pinky fingernail a little long -- one pica -- to help me in my work. How's that for geeky?
What, vaginas?
BOO!!!
Oh, no one enjoys Ulysses, Poppieprong.
Molly Ivors
not everything needs to be Ulysses.
Well, Ulysses does.
That's a really funny book, by the way.
Thers, Extant
Erm.....
Russian is a wonderful rhyming language, second (perhaps) only to Italian. Russian song and poetry just rolls at you...
Merkin is funny
I enjoy reading his "rants"
Auggy, not so much.
Merkin is funny
I enjoy reading his "rants"
Auggy, not so much.
What, vaginas?
NT'odd (Mandatier)
No, no! Keep up - pay attention!! (Smacks air in NTodd's general direction)
Oh, no one enjoys Ulysses, Poppieprong.
They do if there's enough liquor involved.
Anyway, I used to like laying out type with wax & exacto knives too. I used to keep my pinky fingernail a little long -- one pica -- to help me in my work. How's that for geeky?
strawhat | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:48 pm | #
I used to swear by cassette cases....
This war should be fought
But by anyone but me
Keyboard Commando.
ProfWombat--for sheer lyricism, Gaelige is lovely.
Phila, thank you, young 'un.
Sometimes I actually convince myself that I do, but with a whole lot of footnotes and qualifiers.
Erm.....
flory, keeper of the list
Actually, not contradictory. There are a lot of jokes, you just have to work to understand them. Work does not necessarily equal fun, even if it's funny at the end of the line.
There's a pretty considerable amount of oral sex in these parts.
Molly Ivors
Rub it in, why don't you?
Thers is a bacon-sodden Mick lout.
have we been talking about cocksucking for the past 24 hrs straight...? How *interesting*.
Sarah Deere, Shrill On
Good gosh you guys still stuck on Clenis?
Know it I don't, sallyh, but would love to be introduced...
Perhaps...engage w/scorn and hilarity. Just about everything they say is so contradictory and poorly thought out (if at all) that it's silly - they are silly, their beliefs are silly.
They need to be laughed at. To engage with them is to validate that they have beliefs worth debating. They don't.
They have a laughable worldview that is worthy only of mocking and scorn.
Erm.....
"Cyclops" is nasty funny.
Oh yes, indeedy,
It's impossible for the
Nips to fucking rhyme.
Writing takes great skill
While penning haikus is, like,
Transient art, man.
The book's popularity was surely out of all proportion to its literary virtues, and far more interesting.
The only people we know who read it did so for that very reason. The book is disinfo, following many consptheor arcs misleadingly, which was our major gripe. For example, everyone knows there was a survival of goddess worship that permeated patriarchal imagery (Waste Land, Witch Cult, etc) and an inner culture of demonology within the priestly elite (Magic in the Middle Ages, Richard Kieckhefer, etc). And those that know know it did not happen anything like the stupid pointless unfulfilling Tom Hanks vehicle.
Oh, no one enjoys Ulysses, Poppieprong.
They do if there's enough liquor involved.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
And perhaps if it's read aloud in bed to one's (young) lover.
They do if there's enough liquor involved.
One of my greatest memories is getting drunk and reading out "Cyclops" with my friends.
There's a pretty considerable amount of oral sex in these parts
And what parts would those be??
Talk about repetitive
Molly Ivors--I've been to the charity readings of "Finnegan's Wake." It's fun, if you're drunk enough (and everyone was).
Thers is a bacon-sodden Mick lout.
...who gets more head than most people, I gather.
I used to swear by cassette cases....
I used to swear at CD jewel cases.
And on that note, I bid you all a bon nuit.
FeralLiberal, yeah, I love the Doc books. Same for the Shadow, The Spider, Zorro, et al, from that era of American literature.
Pulp is something of an artform. If you couldn't do it well, you didn't get published, and if you didn't get published, you went hungry.
Lester Dent and William Gibson were the masters of the genre. You know, there's damn little of the NY Times best seller list in print today, and even less sold on eBay for more than the cover price.
Doc and Shadow pulps, as well as the paperback reprints are still in demand.
Da Vinci Code is pulp. The title alone is pure pulp.
Doc Savage and the Da Vinci Code. I can see the Bantam paperback now.
Cover by Bama (of course) Doc, with torn shirt (of course) standing before the Mona Lisa with his black light flashlight (Yes, Doc was using blacklight in the 1930s. Told ya Brown ripped off Doc.) in hand, reading the mysterious message written in blacklight chalk.
The book is disinfo, following many consptheor arcs misleadingly, which was our major gripe.
Ah.
Who bankrolled it, d'you suppose?
And what parts would those be??
Oh, you're just being gratuitously naughty.
The whole descendants-of-Jesus thing comes around every few years -- a while back there was a book called "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" that was my first exposure to it. Of course the descendants of Jesus were deposed royalty. Of course. Merovingian kings, was it? That damn Charlemagne, this is all his fault.
There are a lot of jokes, you just have to work to understand them. Work does not necessarily equal fun, even if it's funny at the end of the line.
Molly Ivors
I remember the work. Not so much the jokes.
And those that know know it did not happen anything like the stupid pointless unfulfilling Tom Hanks vehicle.
ypecak
emetic, there's a whole lot we don't really know about all that. Much of the Bible is speculation, politics, and fairy tales.
Thers is a bacon-sodden Mick lout.
There's also a bacon-sodden Mick about.
Molly Ivors--any quantity greater than zero...
I can see the Bantam paperback now.
Still got a box full of them in the basement from the 60's.
Much of the Bible is speculation, politics, and fairy tales.
And tribalism and history and pre-glazed-pottery public health information.
I haven't seen auggy here since the wingnut FreakRepublic terrorist was arrested...
you know, when i think of ulysses being banned in this country, i giggle.
Sarah Deere, Shrill One | Homepage | 11.18.06 - 11:53 pm |
The Bible makes perfect sense once you understand its economic-political origins. Marx is the key to all nonsupernatural questions, and most religion (as opposed to spirituality) is just economics and politics aged into incoherence.
Molly--have you been to Archie McPhee's lately? You could probably complete Thers' Christmas shopping there.
Thers is a bacon-sodden Mick lout.
...who gets more head than most people, I gather.
Molly Ivors
So just out of curiousity -- you guys are spending all your time engaging in oral sex.
Yet you also have managed to conceive 409 +/- children.
Do you do anything else?
The whole descendants-of-Jesus thing comes around every few years -- a while back there was a book called "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" that was my first exposure to it.
Yeah...read that one back in the early eighties.
Very...edifying. Or it would've been if I'd a) believed it; and b) given a shit one way or the other.
One thing the Jews knew, it's that you shouldn't eat bad pork or pork a chick unless you want her knocked up. With BBQ sauce.
There's also a bacon-sodden Mick about.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
NO FLIRTING.
"Much of the Bible is speculation, politics, and fairy tales."
Same could be said of the Bush Administration. Fortunately, I think we have avoided the developing world religion phase this time.
Thers the sodden Mick
Watertiger is teh hot
NTodd the ignored.
Cocksuckers do try
To excite the limp member
To no avail
Kei and Yuri, DVC is pulp. It is not in any way any kind of authoratative work of historical literature.
It's not disinfo. It's not anything more than a ripping yarn.
Sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar.
a while back there was a book called "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" that was my first exposure to it. Of course
That's the author that sued Brown for copyright infringement, and lost.
Molly--don't forget pre-refrigeration.
From Fundies Say the Darndest Things:
"Jesus is not a Jew. Jesus was Jewish."
--awesomelegend, gaiaonline.com [Comments (37)] [2006-Nov-18]
you guys are spending all your time engaging in oral sex.
Yet you also have managed to conceive 409 +/- children.
Do you do anything else?
Thers teaches five classes and just finished a book.
I work two jobs, including one which requires things like grant reporting.
Oh, and we blog a lot.
Marx is the key to all nonsupernatural questions,
Jesus. You two really are on quite a rampage tonight.
It's not disinfo. It's not anything more than a ripping yarn.
Disinfo doesn't have to be expensive; indeed it should be cheap and unobtrusive. Buckley wrote these awful spy novels...
Molly--don't forget pre-refrigeration.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I said...
NO FLIRTING.
SNL can't even make an O'Reilley spoof funny. These writers should loose their jobs
Very...edifying. Or it would've been if I'd a) believed it; and b) given a shit one way or the other.
Phila
That's sort of my take on it, too. It's mildly interesting, like a crossword puzzle (the daily ones), and worth about as much attention. I just truly don't understand what's in it all to make people kill one another over it. But, hey, I am so not mainstream.
Very...edifying. Or it would've been if I'd a) believed it; and b) given a shit one way or the other.
Phila
Olaf cracked me up a few months ago when he wrote that he didn't give a shit whether there was a god or not.
Yet you also have managed to conceive 409 +/- children.
Thers spends his time wondering at his good fortune that all his children look like me.
Oh, and we blog a lot
Have you ever hear of sleep? It's highly recommended.
Marx isn't the one answer to all non-supernatural questions. Nothing is. No such animal.
Jesus. You two really are on quite a rampage tonight.
Bass Pale Ale of England, est 1777, trademark is of course a PYRAMID...
NTodd--well, we know you're The Incubus.
Thers teaches five classes and just finished a book.
I work two jobs, including one which requires things like grant reporting.
Oh, and we blog a lot.
Molly Ivors
Multitasking for the 21st century.
"
Thers spends his time wondering at his good fortune that all his children look like me.
NT'odd (Mandatier)"
First clue would have been they all came pantsless into the world.
William Faulkner,
James Joyce, Virginia Woolf
Pantheon of Yawn
(with all apologies... i just wanted to say 'pantheon of yawn')
Marx isn't the one answer to all non-supernatural questions. Nothing is. No such animal.
ProfWombat | 11.19.06 - 12:01 am |
Okay, Marx is the answer to all questions about wombats.
Olaf cracked me up a few months ago when he wrote that he didn't give a shit whether there was a god or not.
Ô¿Ô | 11.19.06 - 12:00 am | #
That's pretty much how I feel about it, too.
Not exactly, but close enough.
Freezing rain headed my way, I should take my laundry off the line.
Fortunately, I think we have avoided the developing world religion phase this time.
EkCenTriK
Let;s hope so!! There is at least a minor Cult o' Boosh, though. Or the cult of his "manly" package....(yecchh)
About photography, I find it intriguing that the early modern camera could easily have been invented around 100 BC or any time thereafter
The Romans had the "camera lucida," a box with an aperture that projected an image onto a plane for quick tracing. This device was a big advantage for armies planning campaigns and sieges.
And every magician and druggist in Rome knew that silver nitrate reacted to light by moving.
All someone had to do was put the silver nitrate inside a camera lucida. But nobody did til circa 1830
pre-glazed-pottery public health information
can any other type truly be trusted?
Thers spends his time wondering at his good fortune that all his children look like me.
Shhhhhhh!!!!
Bass Pale Ale of England, est 1777, trademark is of course a PYRAMID...
ypecak | 11.19.06 - 12:01 am | #
Fair enough!
On the contrary. Marx is, for instance, silent on the question of whether a wombat possessed of a well-turned pouch is perforce to be feared in combat...
Thers spends his time wondering at his good fortune that all his children look like me.
NT'odd (Mandatier)
Careful there sparky. The Big Project is finished. He has time to find you now....
Marx actually isn't the answer to much of anything. Don't tell Rorschach I said that.
If there is god no amount of deferential asskissing would really make a difference.
About photography, I find it intriguing that the early modern camera could easily have been invented around 100 BC or any time thereafter
I've made the same argument many times about the phonograph.
On the contrary. Marx is, for instance, silent on the question of whether a wombat possessed of a well-turned pouch is perforce to be feared in combat...
Since only the lady wombats possess pouches, the answer is clearly yes. Marx totally screwed up on that one.
can any other type truly be trusted?
Heh. Seriously, the kosher laws about dishes and divisions make a lot of sense when your bread could be contaminated by meat juice or whatever. Just like fasting in the spring (when your stock are about to falow) is silly.
Welp, it's the top of the hour and Ian is coming up on Coast right after that. Need to assemble a hamburger before he comes on. Be right back.
Marx actually isn't the answer to much of anything. Don't tell Rorschach I said that.
well, besides the origin and genealogy of capitalism. and the intricacies of ideology and ideological formations.
Midnight in the East
Trying to come up with rhymes
Is overrated
Must, alas, sheathe the diggers for a night's repose. 'night, all...
All someone had to do was put the silver nitrate inside a camera lucida. But nobody did til circa 1830
But that's exactly what invention is all about: combining known things to create new things and applications. Fuckin' A, all any inventor has to do is take a bunch of atoms and do shit with them.
Marx actually isn't the answer to much of anything. Don't tell Rorschach I said that.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.19.06 - 12:03 am | #
Marx would be a big deal in my book for the quality of his writing alone (cf the stuff on phantasmagoria), even if I didn't find his conceptual work fairly staggering.
well, besides the origin and genealogy of capitalism. and the intricacies of ideology and ideological formations.
Yeah, I agree. But sallyh is a mathie; it's all about the numbers for them.
It is 9PM Pacific Time, and I am staring at my arthritic knuckles and thinking about scheduling a flight to Albuquerque in about two weeks to go visit a friend. I rarely fly any more. The last time I flew was 4 yrs ago. Anyone have any advice about making reservs, getting best deal, etc, remembering that I am old and infirm and not willing to arm wrestle contentious others for a decent seat on a plane?? I'd rather pay a little more (while still trying not to get completely ripped off) not to have the whole experience be as stress inducing as possible.
Fuckin' A, all any inventor has to do is take a bunch of atoms and do shit with them.
"It's drinking the water!"
/Homer
Molly--my argument with Marx is that his arguments are incomplete. Addressing the world on the basis of class alone contains too many limitations and logical fallacies.
I actually find Marx's usefulness somewhat limiting, but I love his followers. Althusser is Da Bomb.
Seriously, the kosher laws about dishes and divisions make a lot of sense when your bread could be contaminated by meat juice or whatever.
A lot of the stranger Jewish laws are explained by the genocidal tribalist hatred that was normal thousands and thousands of years. There actually was a neighboring tribe that seethed kid goats in milk collected from their mothers: thus the meat-dairy nonsense, which is itself a rabbinical apologetic defense of a simple intertribal distinction. The prophets were always crying about the intermixing of pure Israelites with impure Cannanites (the same ethnicity retaining older matriarchal forms of worship), and backsliding (!) into former but noe forbidden and soon to be forgotten rituals (whores in the temple in Hosea, etc).
Well, this was kind of an extended drive-by, I guess.
Gotta get some rest before watching the Bucs take on the 'Skins tomorrow. Should be a ... well, a bad game, but after a few beers, I won't care.
'Night, all.
Oh, one more haiku:
Jeopardy! Wednesday
Sinfonian tries again
I hope you'll tune in
Molly--I actually regard mathematics as a mode of storytelling. Every number is a story, every combination thereof is many stories and can combine to form multiple stories.
Just another way to look at the world and interpret it.
Addressing the world on the basis of class alone contains too many limitations and logical fallacies.
Fair enough; analysis needs to be three (and four) dimensional. But in a society like America, where we pretend class doesn't exist, I think Marx is pretty necessary.
Molly--my argument with Marx is that his arguments are incomplete.
So were Newton's. So were Einstein's. So are just about anybody's.
my argument with Marx is that his arguments are incomplete. Addressing the world on the basis of class alone contains too many limitations and logical fallacies.
Well, he was trapped by his historical frame of reference, just as he said we all are.
Ever read Bellamy's Looking Backward? It was obsessed with "the labor question", which isn't surprising since it was set not long after Haymarket...?
...thousands of years ago.
sarah
avoid connecting flights, if at all possible. it's woth paying the extra cash.
travelocity, expedia, and quixo all work well.
the genocidal tribalist hatred
Ask WGG about how his mother liked him dating Latinas.
Molly and Phila--won't argue with you there. True, all of our work contains limitations and logical fallacies.
Marx's introduction of class consciousness is very necessary, but I see him as more of a springboard to other forms of consciousness.
Clearly, my children do not look like NTodd, and if they did, the doctor woulda drowned them for us. No extra charge.
Jeopardy! Wednesday
Sinfonian tries again
So will it say "Sinfonian" on your podium?
Phila's argument is incomple
Sarah,
What city will you be flying out of?
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
thanks, mrs. God I hate to travel.....
Thers is a typical troll: completely in denial.
Latinas rock.
Marx never said class was the only social agency, he said it was the primary social agency.
I'm doing the Thanksgiving thing tomorrow with a slew of those less enlightened.
If I return blooded y'all know why.
Peace.
Goodbye Chunky Rice...
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I haven't seen auggy here since the wingnut FreakRepublic terrorist was arrested...
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You noticed that, too?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/hGYLWUDA.jpg
I see him as more of a springboard to other forms of consciousness.
I don't have a problem with this. I really believe that a lot of my perspective is determined by the fact that my dad was, essentially, an Ivy-League-educated janitor. My siblings are all in manufacturing or the two great paths out of the working class: education and/or social work.
Mrs. Ibrahim--granted, my study of Marx was very, very limited. And in this day and age, I'm not sure I'd disagree with class as a primary agent.
I wasted all my time taking differential equations, calc, statistical methods and crap like that
Ever read Bellamy's Looking Backward? It was obsessed with "the labor question", which isn't surprising since it was set not long after Haymarket...?
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:11 am | #
There's a pretty horrific proto-conservatarian sci-fi novel called "Useless Hands" that resolves the labor dispute by exterminating the working class with a death ray. It postdates Marx, but even before that the reductionism wasn't all on his side.
So will it say "Sinfonian" on your podium?
FeralLiberal
It hasn't yet.
Sarah
we hate it too. but the online sites make it easy to compare/contrast. Ibrahim is the cheap fare guru.
comparefares.com is a new site worth checking out. and if you need to book a car and a flight, travelocity works well.
I hope my marriage ends up even more happily than Althusser's did.
Maybe I should learn to close tags. Ugh.
We seriously distrust a lot of objections to Marx and socialism because one lesson of the Cold War was that a lot of Ivy League educated or employed liars would say anything to smear him in spurious crap. He was the devil and defending him was admitting to treason. One consequence of the "victory" was that all those arguments were officially vindicated and are still hanging around like stale vapors.
Mister X
liked Goodbye Chunky Rice, hated Blankets. yech.
It hasn't yet.
I admit: I did not think you'd be so fair.
Looking Backward is horesehit.
The Spacious Adventures of the Man in the Street is THE SHIT. Eimar O'Duffy, motherfucker.
Yeah, I agree. But sallyh is a mathie; it's all about the numbers for them.
Molly Ivors
And I'm a realist. Marx wasn't real grounded in that....
I hope my marriage ends up even more happily than Althusser's did.
keep him away from the cutlery, Molly.
hated Blankets. yech.
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Indeed. Is "cloying" too harsh for BLANKETS?
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I admit: I did not think you'd be so fair.
Molly Ivors
I beg your pardon?
I was going to be unfair?
We seriously distrust a lot of objections to Marx...
I seriously distrust a lot of objections to objections to Marx because one lesson of psychotherapy is that Sybil was a bit off balance.
But I hate a book where I guess who the mysterious bad guy is immediately. Always pisses me off.--fourlegsgood
That's why I've completely given up on Scooby-Doo novelizations, whatever their other merits
One of the reasons I love Coast is working all night, you'll go crazy just listening to music. It's nice to hear a conversation going on, however nuts it might be.
I hope my marriage ends up even more happily than Althusser's did.
I don't think they were actually married.
I live for the day when Hanoi George says, "And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!"
cloying and solipistic and indulgent would be some of the adjectives I would apply.
Xianity does that to artists.
Does anyone remember what website it was that had "cartoons" of the wingers reacting to the election?
There was a link to it the other day, but now it's gone.
The first photo was supposed to be a troll = fat guy dressed in a diaper with a lap top, sitting on the bed whining about the 'Pukes losing.
I hope my marriage ends up even more happily than Althusser's did.
Was his the one where the Lout was involved in a horrible mining accident and buried under the duck nest, and then the dark, handsome stranger comes to take care of the family?
I was going to be unfair?
Nah, just a brunette. My prejudice.
SD:
Check Orbitz, Travelocity etc. See what the fares are. Two weeks might be pushing it on the cheapest fares........
Southwest will probably still be the best deal but it isn't as annoying as it used to be. You can check in online 24 hours before your flight so you don't have to show up 3 hours early just to get a decent seat.
SD:
Check Orbitz, Travelocity etc. See what the fares are. Two weeks might be pushing it on the cheapest fares........
Southwest will probably still be the best deal but it isn't as annoying as it used to be. You can check in online 24 hours before your flight so you don't have to show up 3 hours early just to get a decent seat.
Nah, just a brunette. My prejudice.
Molly Ivors
Ah. "Fair" as in appearance. Gotcha.
Sorry to disappoint.
That's why I've completely given up on Scooby-Doo novelizations, whatever their other merits
Okay, that was really fucking funny.
Marx's introduction of class consciousness is very necessary, but I see him as more of a springboard to other forms of consciousness.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.19.06 - 12:12 am | #
I was never as interested in the class stuff as in commodity fetishism &c.
Anyway, I can agree with the springboard thing, but not with the implication (?) that this is a strike against him...
Xianity does that to artists.
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Xianity does dilute the energy, doesn't it?
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Was his the one where the Lout was involved in a horrible mining accident and buried under the duck nest, and then the dark, handsome stranger comes to take care of the family?
Sure it was.
Terry C, American Once Again
That totally sounds like the Poor Man, which does an irregular comic strip featuring photos of wingnuts, among which is a fat naked teenager in a diaper representing all trolls.
Coast is also live, so there are some really hilarious things that happen unedited.
Also from fstdt:
"[On homosexuality being a condition one is born with]
Just because you are born a certain way doesn't meant that is the way you have to be. Some people are born Asian, but through surgeries and counseling they can change."
propaneharry, IMDB [Comments (65)] [2006-May-06]
Was his the one where the Lout was involved in a horrible mining accident and buried under the duck nest, and then the dark, handsome stranger comes to take care of the family?
Sure it was.
That was always my favorite bedtime story.
And I'm a realist. Marx wasn't real grounded in that....
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 12:18 am | #
How do you figure?
terry
PoorMan, I think
Terry C, American Once Again
That totally sounds like the Poor Man, which does an irregular comic strip featuring photos of wingnuts, among which is a fat naked teenager in a diaper representing all trolls.
ypecak
That sounds like the one.
Thanks!
Just because you are born a certain way doesn't meant that is the way you have to be. Some people are born Asian, but through surgeries and counseling they can change."
$&#@@#**#?!?!?!?!?
Xianity does dilute the energy, doesn't it?
Not so much dilute, but channel it in different directions, not always beneficial. Yet consider the religiously inspired art of the middle ages.
And I'm a realist. Marx wasn't real grounded in that...
Marx's first six books in his Tigger the Wonder Cat Cycle clearly misunderstand the principle of the flying bicycle and the hemp scratching post...
I thought I detected the familiar if unwelcome stench of Kei and Yuri...
Xianity does that to artists.
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Yeah, Bach, Tolstoy, Graham Greene, and Bresson all totally sucked once they got bit with the Jeebus bug.
Sheesh.
Hey, Sean's getting a tooth!
Marx is a Dead White Jewish Male!
A fundie caller right now saying that in 1896, the SCOTUS at that time declared this country a christian nation. Case closed...
Marx was toally fucking wrong about the fucking midgets, though.
Hey, Sean's getting a tooth!
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:28 am | #
Shhh...everybody'll want one!
Yeah, Bach, Tolstoy, Graham Greene, and Bresson all totally sucked once they got bit with the Jeebus bug.
Don't forget Eliot and Chesterton!
A fundie caller right now saying that in 1896, the SCOTUS at that time declared this country a christian nation. Case closed...
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IIRC, that's the year of Plessy v. Ferguson, which established "separate but equal."
Coincidence? I wonder ....
Not so much dilute, but channel it in different directions, not always beneficial. Yet consider the religiously inspired art of the middle ages.
FeralLiberal
Absolutely. When used as inspiration, great heights are achieved. When used as The Answer, it's a boring well-travelled road...
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Yep, that was the one I was seeking!
Molly--that's awesome!!!
Maybe not for you, since you're nursing him...
terry
here is the Keyboard Kommandos
Marx's "The German Midget and the State" is, in my mind, his most influential and important work.
Ian's a certified priest or something so he always has these religious topics but with a mystical historical Ark-of-the-Covenent bent.
Hey, Sean's getting a tooth!
Pffft. Big deal. I've got lots of those. And I crave the blogger's approval...
I have a coherent theory of aesthetics and its relation to politics and economics.
Don't forget Eliot and Chesterton!
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:29 am | #
No kidding. "Orthodoxy" would've been a much better book if it hadn't had all that Jesus stuff in it.
And Flannery O'Connor manifestly failed to engage Nietzsche in "Wise Blood," to the work's great detriment.
Wait, I'm confused.
Molly's nursing Sean Hannity?
See, I thought when she said "Sean" ...
Ah, never mind.
TS Eliot bites ass.
And I'm a realist. Marx wasn't real grounded in that....
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 12:18 am | #
How do you figure?
Phila
There is a seriously utopian underpinning to the whole idea of "from each according to ability...blah blah".
His thesis was that humanity would develop into a more perfect community.
Doesn't take into account cheaters, layabouts, louts, criminals, fascists etc etc. Which, like the poor, will always be with us.
Truly, he knew a little German.
And Flannery O'Connor manifestly failed to engage Nietzsche in "Wise Blood," to the work's great detriment.
Yet a hard man is good to find...
Hey, Sean's getting a tooth!
Molly Ivors
Still nursing?
Socialists never prosper.
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 12:32 am |
This is really really ignorant. This sounds like us on a bad night. In fact there was a tradition of utopian socialism that immediately preceded Marx which sounds like exactly what you're describing, but Marx was quite distinct. A lot of his more specific ideas suffer from planning on a very different economy but his broader strokes are now inseparable from human understanding.
Alot of moron Americans call in. They'll ask, "How are you" to Art or whoever the host is that night. They get asked that about 20 times a night. You know that has to get annoying over and over. That happens to all the radio show hosts.
This is really really ignorant.
Golly. Guess I'll just shut the fuck up now.
Socialists never prosper.
NT'odd (Mandatier) | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:34 am |
Indeed, after the Spanish Civil War, some returning landlords were so pleased with the innovations of their anarchist vintners that they were kept on and asked to continue their work.
They didn't prosper so much as not get executed.
Or, or, countries with socialism prosper as a whole because health, or wait a minute, you're right. You tricky bastard.
Kei & Yuri--Flory is anything but ignorant. You, however, are.
Didn't I say I was calling it a night, oh, about half an hour ago.
This time I mean it.
G'night, bats.
There is a seriously utopian underpinning to the whole idea of "from each according to ability...blah blah".
I don't mean this in an aggressive way at all, but I wonder if you haven't actually read much of, say, "Capital."
Beyond that, one thing I notice is that Marx tends to be held to a much higher standard than other theorists who didn't solve everyone's problems and make the earth smell of roses forever more. If the same sort of logic were applied to Darwin, nobody would read "The Origin of Species" 'cause he "got it wrong."
Still nursing?
Yeah, but they learn how to deal with that pretty quickly.
I think it's mostly cut: I can feel it, in the middle of his lower jaw.
The mention of Althusser reminded me of a Norman
Mailer anecdote
When Mailer's ex-wife Adele wrote her autobiography The Last Party in 1997, there was a lot about Mailer, including Adele's version of NM stabbing her
Legal caution compelled her publishers to send the galleys to Mailer for any comments or objections.
Mailer's one correction: "I never said 'fuck' in front of the maid."
Truly, he knew a little German.
And he's over there...
his broader strokes are now inseparable from human understanding.
Yeah, and so were Hegel's. And my ass'.
terry
here is the Keyboard Kommandos
Marx's "The German Midget and the State" is, in my mind, his most influential and important work.
mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Santorum's kids are gonna need some HEAVY therapy in later years.
WHAT did they HAVE on their daughter?
Socialists never prosper.
If they prosper, none dare call them socialism....
Marx is a Dead White Jewish Male!
How can anyone, therefore, take any of his racist, paternalistic, mysoginistic, imperialist, zionist tripe seriously?
How can anyone, therefore, take any of his racist, paternalistic, mysoginistic, imperialist, zionist tripe seriously?
Errrr, intellect? A respect for the history of ideas?
I notice is that Marx tends to be held to a much higher standard than other theorists who didn't solve everyone's problems and make the earth smell of roses forever more. If the same sort of logic were applied to Darwin, nobody would read "The Origin of Species" 'cause he "got it wrong."
I recall getting totally jumped on when I once suggested back in the early-80s that Marx had a few pretty good ideas, if the implementation after the fact (e.g., USSR) wasn't the best.
Golly. Guess I'll just shut the fuck up now.
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 12:37 am |
No, no, what you're saying is fine about certain utopian versions of socialism, it's just clear you are not familiar with Marx or why he is different from say this one French moron who literally waited every day at noon for a millionaire to walk in and offer out of the goodness of his heart to found a utopia according to his great new ideas. You know what could be profitable is comparing Marx and Bakunin, who certainly had lots of problems with idealism and practicality. Bakunin had this little cabal within one of his organizations even as he preached full democracy.
How can anyone, therefore, take any of his racist, paternalistic, mysoginistic, imperialist, zionist tripe seriously?
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:39 am | #
Plus, there's a direct line from Marx to Hitler.
Superchunk sucks.
Plus, there's a direct line from Marx to Hitler.
There's actually a direct line from Luther to Hitler.
The guy I hate is Fourier, with all that talk about seas made of lemonade. As if!
Marx never wrote a novel half as good as "Atlas Shrugged."
Phia:
All of my reading of Marx goes back at least a quarter century, so I'll not pretend there aren't nuances I don't remember.
But I will maintain that while his diagnoses of what was wrong with 19th century society were spot on, his prescriptions were lacking.
above and beyond Marx's intellectual contributions (or shortcomings) aside, his role in creating and guiding the First Internationale makes him one of the most important figures of the nineteenth century.
Marx was the new Hitler, before being the new Hitler was cool.
Bakunin had this little cabal within one of his organizations even as he preached full democracy.
ypecak | 11.19.06 - 12:40 am | #
Bakunin preached full democracy? News to me.
You're right about all his little secret intrigues and cells, though. Got a few people killed with that bullshit, IIRC.
Marx did a lot more than most educated Americans appreciate, and he also pissed off the powers that be of every government that matters (to include those that were supposedly following him, see the brothers Cohn-Bendit) for every generation since becoming famous. So that kind of works against proper appreciation.
The guy I hate is Fourier, with all that talk about seas made of lemonade. As if!
FAST FOURIER TRANSFORMS RULE, MOTHERFUCKER!
Marx never wrote a novel half as good as "Atlas Shrugged."
Thers, Extant | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:42 am |
This is actually true. Also his haikus are hardly worthy of the name.
Marx never wrote a novel half as good as "Atlas Shrugged."
Thers, Extant
Which is precisely why there are not legions of pimply faced 15 year old wankers in love with Marx.
Mostly older white hetero males call in with their very important and serious views. Gotta love it...
Which is precisely why there are not legions of pimply faced 15 year old wankers in love with Marx
Richard Marx had a good run...albeit brief.
The "problem" with Marx is that his emphasis on an economic approach to history cannot be gotten around.
But I will maintain that while his diagnoses of what was wrong with 19th century society were spot on, his prescriptions were lacking.
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 12:42 am | #
Yeah, that's what I hear. I don't disagree, necessarily, but I also don't fault him for failing to solve what may well be an insoluble problem.
Plus, our society is currently based on ideas that are at least and unworkable and dozens of times more evil, so it's all kinda relative.
How can anyone, therefore, take any of his racist, paternalistic, mysoginistic, imperialist, zionist tripe seriously?
Chris Tucker
You forgot the parody tags.
Flory--yes, but I do find several pimply faced 19 year olds to be rather taken with him.
But Marx is a Dead White Jewish Male!
ALL the evils of the world come from the welspring of Dead White Males, both Christian and Jewish.
The "problem" with Marx is that his emphasis on an economic approach to history cannot be gotten around.
roland
What is the difference between Marx and Adam Smith in that regard?
(hint: starts with an "n")
Plus, our society is currently based on ideas that are at least and unworkable and dozens of times more evil, so it's all kinda relative.
Phila | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:49 am |
You know, man, the thing is, you know, we try, and there's stuff and it goes on, man, you know. And then you get taquitos.
Flory--yes, but I do find several pimply faced 19 year olds to be rather taken with him.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 11.19.06 - 12:50 am | #
Better him than Niall Ferguson or John Derbyshire.
"You forgot the parody tags."
JR, kerosene and a match
Oh, the tags are there! It's just that some people can't see them.
Very late to the party --
Did anything totally irksome happen since I was here this morning?
Marx is generally misunderstood, mainly because he's generally unread.
What is the difference between Marx and Adam Smith in that regard?
(hint: starts with an "n")
JR, kerosene and a match | 11.19.06 - 12:51 am | #
It's all about the Benjamins, yo.
(hint: starts with an "n")
JR, kerosene and a match | 11.19.06 - 12:51 am |
Well, it is actually quite striking how a lot of people who are credited with things are not exactly the true person who literally for the first time did such and such a thing. And it is sad that Smith is prostituted as if he were some kind of enlightenment Grover.
Oh, the tags are there! It's just that some people can't see them.
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 11.19.06 - 12:52 am |
Kei and Yuri are actually using a truly three-dimensional holographic gravatar. It is behind the viewer.
Only on Coast would you learn of the leprechaun and Egyptian connection...
And it is sad that Smith is prostituted as if he were some kind of enlightenment Grover.
roland
Most of the people who worship Adam Smith haven't read him.
Ha ha...Marx was evil. He goes against nature. He is rotting in hell right now.
Marx is generally misunderstood, mainly because he's generally unread.
ding ding ding, we have a winner!
Phila--amen to that.
Steve Simels--I've been irked that you weren't here. Now come over and give this shiksa a hug.
at fstdt:
"Occam's Razor Disagrees" Award
"I am a bit troubled. I believe my son has a girlfriend, because she left a dirty magazine with men in it under his bed. My son is only 16 and I really don't think he's ready to date yet. What's worse is that he's sneaking some girl to his room behind my back. I need help, God! I want my son to stop being so secretive!"
Linda, Good news prayer room [Comments (71)] [2006-Oct-28]
Let's be honest.
The problem with Marx was accurately, nay brilliantly, summed up by his mom.
Who famously said:
"If only Karl had earned more capital than he wrote about it."
We can also throw Machiavelli into the "woefully unread by those who refer to him constantly"
Marx is generally misunderstood, mainly because he's generally unread.
JR, kerosene and a match | 11.19.06 - 12:53 am | #
Sure. The columns on the Civil War that he wrote (in English) for the New York Tribune aren't even in print. Which is pretty shocking, really.
There's actually a direct line from Luther to Hitler.
Actually, there is a direct line from Plato to Hitler.
You mean Bronstein right?
The Bolshevist?
Yeah, that's what I hear. I don't disagree, necessarily, but I also don't fault him for failing to solve what may well be an insoluble problem.
Plus, our society is currently based on ideas that are at least and unworkable and dozens of times more evil, so it's all kinda relative.
Phila
Agree to the first part, semi-disagree with the second. He is held to a higher standard if only because the real world experiments with his ideas have gone so disastrously wrong. Not his fault completely, but he shares some of the blame.
And I also think that objectively speaking, capitalism -- if properly managed, controlled and guarded against -- is a more reliable road towards economic prosperity for the masses. And going back to my original comment, because it expressly takes into account the ugly side of human nature -- greed. That's not to say that any of the historical and existing experiments with properly managed capitalism have worked -- tho Europe is getting damn close -- but I think the possibility exists.
The guy I hate is Fourier, with all that talk about seas made of lemonade. As if!
And that fast fourier lemonade sucks. More zero-crossing royal cola for me.
'mout. Peace and Marxism forever, bitches. At least until somebody brings me a pony covered in chocolate and filled with creamy filly.
If Nietzche deserves blame for some real world applications so does Marx. Nietzche is in hell too.
But Machiavelli was in a seriously different moral place than Marx. Machiavelli was trying to be a sychophant to get out of prison and failed. Marx was the devourer of all sychophants.
By the way, the Viking Portable Machiavelli has a lot of excellent stuff besides that unfortunate pamphlet, which reveals the true depth and breadth of a Renaissance writer.
Marx never wrote a novel half as good as "Atlas Shrugged."
So you never read "Engel Farted"?
And I also think that objectively speaking, capitalism -- if properly managed, controlled and guarded against -- is a more reliable road towards economic prosperity for the masses.
Capitalism that's "properly managed, controlled and guarded against" isn't capitalism.
Digby, by the way, is rocking with the post about Taking Down the Kewl Kidz. Digby's serious about it. Read it. Read the Orcinus post Digby links to.
Not his fault completely, but he shares some of the blame.
He shares no more of the blame than Jesus Christ shares for the Inquisition or the Hoolocaust. He can be held responsible only insofar as he was followed, and he wasn't. Lenin's writings in exile are totally the opposite of his stuff from power.
So you never read "Engel Farted"?
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
It's out of print, I heard...
Capitalism that's "properly managed, controlled and guarded against" isn't capitalism.
Phila
So what would you call the economies of the Scandanavian countries?
Marxists will always turn the state into a God. This God they create is not an independent God. It is incapable of indiffernce. It will always require human sacrifices, no matter how many times misguided people think they can get it just right.
is a more reliable road towards economic prosperity for the masses.
Ummm -- (POUNDING HEADS INTO WALLS) yes. And if you murder someone right the rest of their life can be lived more fully...and Nazis would be cool if it weren't for all that hatred and militarism and mass murder and creepy German-speaking...and black is a pretty bright color with the right dots...
Machiavelli was trying to be a sychophant to get out of prison and failed. <
He was already out of prison.
He shares no more of the blame than Jesus Christ shares for the Inquisition or the Hoolocaust
Jesus Christ didn't write the New Testament. And I don't have a lot of problem holding the authors partly responsible for the Inquisition.
Marxists will always turn the state into a God. This God they create is not an independent God. It is incapable of indiffernce. It will always require human sacrifices, no matter how many times misguided people think they can get it just right.
James Jesus Rimbaud | 11.19.06 - 1:04 am | #
Yeah. Goddamn those Marxists for creating failed states.
Actually, there is a direct line from Plato to Hitler to Prescott Bush
So what would you call the economies of the Scandanavian countries?
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 1:04 am |
"Democratic Socialism," growing out of Swedish "Christian Socialism" and combinations of Marxism with more moderate democratic movements from the 19th century. Got 'em through the Depression it did.
There's a wee bit of a difference between Marxists and Marx.
See also: Christians and Christ.
Apparently, it's time for sleep.
See you in the morning!!!
Capitalism that's "properly managed, controlled and guarded against" isn't capitalism.
Phila
You can hardly argue that what we have hear in Amerika is capitalism. Its kleptocracy wrapped up in deluded monetarists. Show me the way to Milton Friedman's grave so I can piss on it.
Ummm -- (POUNDING HEADS INTO WALLS)
Pound harder.
You can hardly argue that what we have hear in Amerika is capitalism. Its kleptocracy wrapped up in deluded monetarists. Show me the way to Milton Friedman's grave so I can piss on it.
James Jesus Rimbaud
Can't argue with that. Much closer to statist corporatism than anything Adam Smith had in mind.
cheets
You can hardly argue that what we have hear in Amerika is capitalism. Its kleptocracy wrapped up in deluded monetarists. Show me the way to Milton Friedman's grave so I can piss on it.
James Jesus Rimbaud
Au contraire. Kleptocracy is the natural state of capitalism.
Can't argue with that. Much closer to statist corporatism than anything Adam Smith had in mind.
flory
Adam Smith abhored corporations and managers.
Indeed, one of the tells in all this is the hostility of the free traders to true free trade. Lockheed would be nothing without the government doing all its work; almost all of the war profiteers are heavily subsidized and have arrangements where the military does all their testing.
You can hardly argue that what we have hear in Amerika is capitalism. Its kleptocracy wrapped up in deluded monetarists.
James Jesus Rimbaud
I'm trying very hard to avoid going off on people, as a sort of early new year's resolution. So I'm simply going to say that you don't have any idea what you're talking about, and leave it at that.
Au contraire. Kleptocracy is the natural state of capitalism.
JR, kerosene and a match | 11.19.06 - 1:15 am | #
Where should I mail your cigar?
Indeed, one of the tells in all this is the hostility of the free traders to true free trade. Lockheed would be nothing without the government doing all its work; almost all of the war profiteers are heavily subsidized and have arrangements where the military does all their testing.
roland, htg
They're not free traders. They're corporatists feeding off the government tit. And using government to protect them from the dangers of the masses...like bankruptcy and liability litigation....
Adam Smith abhored corporations and managers.
JR, kerosene and a match
Which is why Adam Smith would not consider the Bush economy to be in any way related to his ideas.
Liberals tend to specialize in giving away other peoples' money.
Duncan
Funny that Bush has bought a huge welfare state [Iraq] that's gonna cost trillions, not to mention 70% of Iraq is unemployed. But that's not giving away your tax dollars to terrorists right?
Which is why Adam Smith would not consider the Bush economy to be in any way related to his ideas.
flory, keeper of the list | 11.19.06 - 1:21 am | #
So does that mean he deserves some measure of blame for the stuff that's been done in his name, mostly by people who either didn't read or didn't understand him?
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