HOLY JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CAN THERE BE ANYTHING STUPIDER THAN A NO-KNOCK WARRANT? That was actually our first reaction when we first heard if it. Of course anyone who just bursts into anyone else's house is risking getting their head blown off, cop or not. This is sacrificing a few low-level cops so that you can have an excuse to summarily execute. It is a major policy step toward general brutality.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 10:56 pm | #
Hmm, a few minutes ago the wife asked if we could go see Casino Royale again.
I suspect that it is not for the plotline.
EkCenTriK |
11.25.06 - 10:56 pm | #
I menbtioned this somewhere else earlier. Would like to bring it up again.
I propose a moratorium on the phrase "sectarian strife", be it in Iraq, Lebanon, Ireland, or anywhere else.
Instead, I propose we call them "religious wars". It will piss off the wingnut wack-o fund-os more.
Ba'al |
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11.25.06 - 10:56 pm | #
There really is no global warming. Or a war in Iraq. Or an Atrios.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
There is no NTodd.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 10:57 pm | #
There really is no global warming. Or a war in Iraq. Or an Atrios.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
And Bush is a great president, Karl Rove is a genius, and Ann Coulter is a fox.
(the above are rightard fantasies)
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 10:57 pm | #
ronjazz can suck my cock.
kirk
shit, where's that electron microscope?
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 10:57 pm | #
Instead, I propose we call them "religious wars". It will piss off the wingnut wack-o fund-os more.
Hey, anything to piss of the fundies.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 10:58 pm | #
I mentioned this somewhere else earlier. Would like to bring it up again.
I propose a moratorium on the phrase "sectarian strife", be it in Iraq, Lebanon, Ireland, or anywhere else.
Instead, I propose we call them "religious wars". It will piss off the wingnut wack-o fund-os more.
Ba'al
Wars of the One True Religion
shawk |
11.25.06 - 10:58 pm | #
God bless Boris Karloff.
Richard |
11.25.06 - 10:59 pm | #
I did read that headline that Exxon was snuffing out global warming information in science classes that receive funding from them...
whiskeyina |
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11.25.06 - 10:59 pm | #
There really is no global warming. Or a war in Iraq. Or an Atrios.
I wonder if I am even here at this blog. Or if there this blog is even real. The Lout knows these meta things. But not the Wanker.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 10:59 pm | #
Haloscan is screwing up again.
EkCenTriK |
11.25.06 - 10:59 pm | #
Somehow the phrase "sectarian strife" trivializes and misleads.
Ba'al |
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11.25.06 - 10:59 pm | #
Breaking News.....
Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans are spontaneously organizing against the repressive socialist government of Hugo Chavez.
gwwyne |
11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
Wars of Religious Turf?
Religious Land Grab Wars?
Wars of Religious Smiting?
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
There really is no global warming. Or a war in Iraq. Or an Atrios.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
Pixie. Free. Zone.
And if there's no Atrios, who's the wanker that never, ever links to you?
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
There really is no global warming. Or a war in Iraq. Or an Atrios.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
There is no NTodd.
And there is no mayonnaise in Ireland, so whaddaya gonna do?
Elmer, PHD |
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11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
Why is hell-o-scan fucking with me?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
go fighting trojans!
san antone rose |
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11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
Condolences for your loss, and best wishes to you and yours.
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.25.06 - 11:01 pm | #
who's the wanker that never, ever links to you?
There is only one Wanker, and NTodd is his name.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:01 pm | #
Breaking News.....
Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans are spontaneously organizing against the repressive socialist government of Hugo Chavez.
gwwyne
Whatever, jack.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:01 pm | #
It's not I say it's not a Civil War, y'all. It's a War Between the Religious States.
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QuentinCompson |
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11.25.06 - 11:02 pm | #
gwwyne
How much does part-time tutoring pay?
Richard |
11.25.06 - 11:02 pm | #
No-knock warrants are needlessly dangerous bullshit.
BLEACH on AS 12Eastern.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:02 pm | #
Somehow the phrase "sectarian strife" trivializes and misleads.
whiskeyina, I tried to answer in the last thread, but haloscum got all trolly. I've met Ray Mason, but never heard him. I played the Horse several times, and hung out at Packard's after the shows, also did a few jazz gigs in town years ago. My wife and I take occasional shopping trips, and I always snag something cool at the little record store downstairs. A couple of weeks ago I found a Japanese CD reissue of one of my favorite Dizzy gillespie small group records, a great find, and $10! My brother lives in southern VT, so we often meet halway in NoHo, as he calls it. I really enjoy it, but I'm a lefty.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:03 pm | #
i have found k&y so offensive that i'm going to do ritual things with eggs and slit animal throats, in protest. i encourage all of you to do the same, but skip the cheap red wine. soon, there will be great change. but only in ntodd's pants.
goodnight, bats. thanks for the debrief after the 2 year old, i feel like i have a functioning mind again. fwiw.
chicago dyke |
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11.25.06 - 11:04 pm | #
Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans are spontaneously organizing against the repressive socialist government of Hugo Chavez.
Just remember kids: COAL IS NEAT!
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:05 pm | #
there's enough oil for hundreds of years. i don't know what the fuck george w and dick are blathering about.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:05 pm | #
I don't think I understand this musical number.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:05 pm | #
I did read that headline that Exxon was snuffing out global warming information in science classes that receive funding from them...
Science a la Joe Camel http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...2400789_pf.html
The producers of former vice president Al Gore's film about global warming, myself included, certainly agreed. So the company that made the documentary decided to offer 50,000 free DVDs to the National Science Teachers Association (NSTA) for educators to use in their classrooms. It seemed like a no-brainer.
The teachers had a different idea: Thanks but no thanks, they said.
In their e-mail rejection, they expressed concern that other "special interests" might ask to distribute materials, too; they said they didn't want to offer "political" endorsement of the film; and they saw "little, if any, benefit to NSTA or its members" in accepting the free DVDs.
Gore, however, is not running for office, and the film's theatrical run is long since over. As for classroom benefits, the movie has been enthusiastically endorsed by leading climate scientists worldwide, and is required viewing for all students in Norway and Sweden.
Still, maybe the NSTA just being extra cautious. But there was one more curious argument in the e-mail: Accepting the DVDs, they wrote, would place "unnecessary risk upon the [NSTA] capital campaign, especially certain targeted supporters." One of those supporters, it turns out, is the Exxon Mobil Corp.
That's the same Exxon Mobil that for more than a decade has done everything possible to muddle public understanding of global warming and stifle any serious effort to solve it. It has run ads in leading newspapers (including this one) questioning the role of manmade emissions in global warming, and financed the work of a small band of scientific skeptics who have tried to challenge the consensus that heat-trapping pollution is drastically altering our atmosphere. The company spends millions to support groups such as the Competitive Enterprise Institute that aggressively pressure lawmakers to oppose emission limits.
Richard |
11.25.06 - 11:06 pm | #
'kay, Dr Logic -- then who keeps linking to Thers?
Attaturk. He's got the keys, and he hates me because I peed in his fez.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:06 pm | #
repressive socialist government, sort of like a freethinking conservative government. A fig newton of the imagination. Go Hugo!
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:06 pm | #
Several upper-class Venezuelans are spontaneously organizing against the empowering socialist government of Hugo Chavez in the hope of replacing it with true repression. Of course, they've done this before, and they've gone further and failed. Fake protests are very much a part of the American machinery of government overthrow, and were used before Pinochet's coup to give the appearance of legitimacy. You can usually tell what matters by whether or not the infallible media reports it (compare the truly massive AMLO protests which shut down the Mexican capital).
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:07 pm | #
Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans are spontaneously organizing against the repressive socialist government of Hugo Chavez.
gwwyne | 11.25.06 - 11:00 pm | #
but if they are allowed to spontaneously organize ....
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:07 pm | #
I claim this thread for David Essex
DWD |
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11.25.06 - 11:07 pm | #
"The White House has begun closing the Enviromental Protection Agency's research libraries to the public and to its own staff, cementing Bush's reputation as usher of a new dark age.
It never got down to actual book-burning, but the Republican choke-hold on government would clearly have taken us there. In August, under the guise of fiscal responsibility, the Bush Environmental Protection Agency began closing most of its research libraries, both to the public and to its own staff.
The EPA's professional staff objected strongly, insisting that closing the libraries would hamstring them in their jobs. In a letter to Congress protesting the closures, public employees said, "We believe that this budget cut is just one of many Bush administration initiatives to reduce the effectiveness of the US Environmental Protection Agency, and to continue to demoralize its employees.""
The Allah Wars
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:09 pm | #
So....why'd we attack Iraq then?
ellroon, hair afire
So Monkey Boy could prove his dick was bigger than his daddy's?
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:10 pm | #
So....why'd we attack Iraq then?
ellroon, hair afire
attack? no, it was just an exhuberant border crossing.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:10 pm | #
So....why'd we attack Iraq then?
Oh. We can't extract it yet. Which is why it will last for so long.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:10 pm | #
I claim this thread for David Essex
DWD
I claim this thread for Shakiras ass.
Lord Nelson
I claim this thread for NTodd's podcast on Queen and Freddie Mercury.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:10 pm | #
I claim this thread for Shakiras ass.
I claim Shakira's ass.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:11 pm | #
Venezuelans who are worried about Hugo "repressing" their class war and rape of the poor and middle classes. same assholes as Lieberman, can't lose an election. fucking rich assholes.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:11 pm | #
i cud start the cattle pun again. i herd people liked it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:11 pm | #
So....why'd we attack Iraq then?
Silly, God told GWB to do it.
DWD |
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11.25.06 - 11:11 pm | #
Has anyone read Jeff Sharlet's article on American fundies in the recent Harper's? They used to focus on revising Science to reflect their Creationist hallucinations. Now the target is history. They have two kinds of time that they believe in "kairos" which is 'God's time' and "chronos" which is the measure of time by mortals like us here on earth. All of history is re-written to show that America is actually the promised land pre-ordained by God. We are the Crown of Creation. It's called "Heritage Studies".
That magazine has given me more night terrors than all the Japanese monster films I ever watched as a child.
Bad Art |
11.25.06 - 11:11 pm | #
I hate those ads where they have kids telling us about "clean coal."
Fucking pisses me off, it does.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:12 pm | #
Oh. We can't extract it yet. Which is why it will last for so long.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker | Homepage | 11.25.06 - 11:10 pm | #
it's their own fault for living over our oil.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:12 pm | #
NYT on Jimmy Baker
“I think he’d like to be remembered as a 21st-century Disraeli,” said Leon Panetta, a Democratic member of the group, referring to the 19th-century British statesman and prime minister. “I think deep down he is someone who believes that his diplomatic career, in many ways, helped change the world.”
P O'Neill |
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11.25.06 - 11:12 pm | #
Attaturk. He's got the keys, and he hates me because I peed in his fez.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
And whose blog does Atta J have the keys to...if there's no Atrios and all?
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:13 pm | #
Venezuelans who are worried about Hugo "repressing" their class war and rape of the poor and middle classes. same assholes as Lieberman, can't lose an election. fucking rich assholes.
ronjazz, gloater
They ran a former Miss Universe against him, for Chrissakes.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:13 pm | #
Actually, the Earth is not warming..it is cooling already..
Yeah, I love how you link to an opinion column by a geologist, rather than, say...all the stories this year about NASA data showing global warming is real and stuff.
Sorry, charlie, the consensus is that there is global warming. Why are you so invested in denying it?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
I'm so intersted in denying it because it...ummmm...just happens to be the truth??..
...just looky here at what I found at several NASA web sites..
..they must be really smart...cuz they agree with me:
Global temperature measurements of the Earth's lower atmosphere obtained from satellites reveal no definitive warming trend over the past two decades. The slight trend that is in the data actually appears to be downward. The largest fluctuations in the satellite temperature data are not from any man-made activity, but from natural phenomena such as large volcanic eruptions from Mt. Pinatubo, and from El Niño. So the programs which model global warming in a computer say the temperature of the Earth's lower atmosphere should be going up markedly, but actual measurements of the temperature of the lower atmosphere reveal no such pronounced activity
..that NTodd...he's a bit of a dummy, ain't he?
liberal jeenyus |
11.25.06 - 11:13 pm | #
So Monkey Boy could prove his dick was bigger than his daddy's?
Terry C, An American Again
attack? no, it was just an exhuberant border crossing.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Oh. We can't extract it yet. Which is why it will last for so long.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
Because of a tiny dick that exhuberantly crossed a border and got stuck?
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:13 pm | #
mrs gently just headed upstairs after having a wee bit too much wine.
an excuse to summarily execute. It is a major policy step toward general brutality.
**
That old lady went out in a Blaze of Glory?
The cops must have been in uniform.
Nancy Willing |
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11.25.06 - 11:13 pm | #
attack? no, it was just an exhuberant border crossing.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Those frat boyz and their pranks....
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:14 pm | #
I'm so intersted in denying it because I don't get a paycheck if I don't.
Well fuck it, let's burn the sky. NASA says all is otay.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:15 pm | #
"The White House has begun closing the Enviromental Protection Agency's research libraries to the public and to its own staff, cementing Bush's reputation as usher of a new dark age.
So....why'd we attack Iraq then?
ellroon, hair afire
Because of the convergence of different parties governing America who saw various reasons to destroy the Iraqi state altogether, devastate its people on a near-genocidal level, wipe out its ability to function and divide its territory. Israel decided to do so through the US in the nineteen seventies and had a perfect opportunity to now, after past rejections or obstacles. American militarists saw it as an easy victory. Capitalism, which in its supposed proprietary nation has been reduced to a perversion of socialism in the military industrial complex, saw obscene short-term profits. The Iranians helped (and the hapless Bush team of crony hacks saw no reason to be suspicious of this) for roughly the same reason Israel initiated it, to remove the greatest regional threat. Or if the Official Version is to be believed, because Saddam might have been developing the capacity to produce weapons other countries already have without a peep from us. (The oil is a distraction; the oil companies were resolutely against it and China can get the oil we denied it from elsewhere.)
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:16 pm | #
“I think deep down he is someone who believes that his diplomatic career, in many ways, helped change the world.”
“and they’ll pile up the bodies and I’ll say, ‘That’ll learn ya!"
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.25.06 - 11:16 pm | #
Because of a tiny dick that exhuberantly crossed a border and got stuck?
And this, ladies and gents, is what John Kerry was saying at that college in Pasadena.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:16 pm | #
That's just stupid.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
But it fits with all of what Bush does. Remove the truth, hide the facts, distort the history, deny the events and voila! Your own reality!
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:16 pm | #
What's this about Walter Neff?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:16 pm | #
"The White House has begun closing the Enviromental Protection Agency's research libraries to the public and to its own staff, cementing Bush's reputation as usher of a new dark age.
That's just stupid.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Bet its also illegal. Those are *our* fucking libraries, not Fredo's.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:17 pm | #
I think deep down he is someone who believes that his diplomatic career, in many ways, helped change the world.”
For the worst.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:17 pm | #
Evening, all. On a last check-in.
All of history is re-written to show that America is actually the promised land pre-ordained by God
so, what is Israel, then? We gonna solve the Middle East crises by hauling all the Israelis to Wyoming?
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Cynicus |
11.25.06 - 11:17 pm | #
JP, those shoes better not be coming apart...
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:17 pm | #
no definitive warming trend over the past two decades
two whole decades! That's such a long time. If this is true then global warming must be revealed to be an elaborate hoax involving 1,000s of scientists from all over the world!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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11.25.06 - 11:17 pm | #
Sometimes I think that we attacked Iraq for the simple reason that we let the neocons live in their own weird world all unmolested, thinking that their idiocies don't matter as they are not in power. And in that world Iraq was a great failure of papa Bush, a great shame and an affront to the all-American penis. These people sat around and made up this story of vengeance and great victory and the minute they were handed the keys by baby Bush, off they went.
It had to do with oil, too, and various other things, but mostly it was because these nutters were allowed to build an alternative reality. And we must never let that happen again.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.25.06 - 11:18 pm | #
All right. I'm here for a good gloat. Hope everyone's doing okay.
whiskey, I play guitar and bass, and I do play out quite a bit; just finished a 3-day run in Manhattan that was 28 sets long. marathon man, that's me. I've written and recorded 20 or so of my own tunes, along with standards and Spanish and South American folk themes, and I did a Christmas CD about 12 years ago that was really fun and still sounds pretty good. My latest is on Whaling City Sound Records, based in New Bedford, MA, with my trio. It's done fairly well. Now writing material for my next two. I may try to score something up your way soon; I'll let you know. My music is flamenco and Brazilian influenced, and I play mostly nylon-string guitar.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:18 pm | #
Just remember kids: COAL IS NEAT!
I hate those ads where they have kids telling us about "clean coal."
Fucking pisses me off, it does.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
You and me both.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:18 pm | #
And this, ladies and gents, is what John Kerry was saying at that college in Pasadena.
Thanks for playing, dumbass. Again, why are you so invested in denying climate change induced by human activity?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:19 pm | #
...just looky here at what I found at several NASA web sites..
..they must be really smart...cuz they agree with me:
**
Bushco has a penchant for the purposeful denial of scientific fact and a policy of appointing agency leadership that sprinkles lies throughout just for folks like you, smart ass.
Nancy Willing |
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11.25.06 - 11:19 pm | #
...just looky here at what I found at several NASA web sites..
..they must be really smart...cuz they agree with me:
**
Bushco has a penchant for the purposeful denial of scientific fact and a policy of appointing agency leadership that sprinkles lies throughout just for folks like you, smart ass.
Nancy Willing |
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11.25.06 - 11:19 pm | #
the actual quote is Unlike the surface-based temperatures, global temperature measurements of the Earth's lower atmosphere obtained from satellites reveal no definitive warming trend over the past two decades.
this is from 1997, btw. a lot more work has been done since then.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:19 pm | #
no definitive warming trend over the past two decades
two whole decades! That's such a long time. If this is true then global warming must be revealed to be an elaborate hoax involving 1,000s of scientists from all over the world!
The Old Man From Scene 24
Shhhhhhhh!
It's unMURKAN to talk about science.
You have to have faith!
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:19 pm | #
And in that world Iraq was a great failure of papa Bush, a great shame and an affront to the all-American penis.
Like George Carlin said, "You can't pull out! You have to stay in there and give them a good screwing!"
It had to do with oil, too, and various other things, but mostly it was because these nutters were allowed to build an alternative reality. And we must never let that happen again.
Echidne of the snakes
Mom is a very wise snake lady. I think you're right. We let them alone for too fucking long. By the time we noticed how damn dangerous they were, it was too late.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:20 pm | #
Thanks for playing, dumbass. Again, why are you so invested in denying climate change induced by human activity?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
Cuz he doesn't get any attention so he keeps coming here to stir up shit.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:21 pm | #
I'm so intersted in denying it because it...ummmm...just happens to be the truth??..
Ah, Truth. Yes, I've heard many people speak of it with such fervor. WMD ring a bell?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:21 pm | #
liberal jeenyus
That wacky "jeenyus". Always taking things out of context.
Cynicus: Israel is full of Goddamn JEWS! We're talking about "God". You know, Father of Jesus Christ? Ever heard of the guy? Don't you read or anything?
Bad Art |
11.25.06 - 11:21 pm | #
Again, why are you so invested in denying climate change induced by human activity?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
Its mother will stop saving her tip money for that Hummer it wants for Christmas.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:22 pm | #
It had to do with oil, too, and various other things, but mostly it was because these nutters were allowed to build an alternative reality. And we must never let that happen again.
I'm going to shoot them into the sun. They'll have difficulty plotting mayhem from there.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:23 pm | #
lj can always find the one single exception that basically proves the rule, as written by some wingnut stooge who miraculously was appointed to a NASA position by the Supreme Idiot Bush, just so moronic brownshirt fuckwits like lj will continue to lap up ignorant rightwing jizz. predictably boring, and always dead wrong.
In case someone asks.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:23 pm | #
Like George Carlin said, "You can't pull out! You have to stay in there and give them a good screwing!"
"Pull out? Doesn't sound MANLY to me. Let's say in there and get the job done.
Because that IS what we're doing to that country."
- Carlin, circa 1972.
Hey, Viet Nam...Iraq. Nothing has changed.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:23 pm | #
Sorry:
"I say let's STAY in there and get the job done."
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:24 pm | #
I'm going to shoot them into the sun. They'll have difficulty plotting mayhem from there.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
But then Lex Luther will free them again!
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:24 pm | #
George C. Deutsch, the young presidential appointee at NASA who told public affairs workers to limit reporters' access to a top climate scientist and told a Web designer to add the word "theory" at every mention of the Big Bang, resigned yesterday, agency officials said.
....
The resignation came as the National Aeronautics and Space Administration was preparing to review its policies for communicating science to the public. The review was ordered Friday by Michael D. Griffin, the NASA administrator, after a week in which many agency scientists and midlevel public affairs officials described to The New York Times instances in which they said political pressure was applied to limit or flavor discussions of topics uncomfortable to the Bush administration, particularly global warming.
Black Adam |
11.25.06 - 11:24 pm | #
Cynicus: Israel is full of Goddamn JEWS!
So, no moving them to Wyoming, then?
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Cynicus |
11.25.06 - 11:24 pm | #
The world has less than a decade to take decisive action in the battle to beat global warming or risk irreversible change that will tip the planet towards catastrophe, a leading U.S. climate scientist said on Tuesday.
And the United States, the world' biggest polluter but major climate laggard, has a vital role to play in leading that fight, James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, told Reuters on a visit to London.
Guess denial of global warming ain't so "universal"...
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:25 pm | #
Maureen Dowd Links Bush to O.J.: If a Civil War Fits, You Can't Acquit
By E&P Staff
Published: November 24, 2006 11:35 PM ET
NEW YORK With a timely reference to the rise and fall of the O.J. Simpson tell-some book (and what she's calls the "Thanksgiving Day Massacre" in Iraq) Maureen Dowd in her Saturday column for The New York Times suggests that President Bush go on Fox News and declare, "IF I did it -- here’s how the civil war in Iraq happened.”
Bush, she writes, "could describe, hypothetically, a series of naïve, arrogant and self-defeating blunders, including his team’s failure to comprehend that in the Arab world, revenge and religious zealotry can be stronger compulsions than democracy and prosperity." Is she suggesting that Bush, like O.J., has gotten away with murder? http://
www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1003438499
I hate those ads where they have kids telling us about "clean coal."
I've been told that it can be clean, if it's burned correctly. Unfortunately, you all know that this would cost MONEY and the corporatocracy won't have that.
Worse, when you clean it up, the byproduct is ungodly amounts of toxic metals and compounds, most notably mercury. What the hell are we going to do with it?
Pitchforks & Torches |
11.25.06 - 11:25 pm | #
But then Lex Luther will free them again!
I'm dropping him into the marianas trench.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:26 pm | #
NEW YORK With a timely reference to the rise and fall of the O.J. Simpson tell-some book (and what she's calls the "Thanksgiving Day Massacre" in Iraq) Maureen Dowd in her Saturday column for The New York Times suggests that President Bush go on Fox News and declare, "IF I did it -- here’s how the civil war in Iraq happened.”
Again, why are you so invested in denying climate change induced by human activity?
Silly. There is not investment. Juju hates all things liberal and simply opposes anything liberals support.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:26 pm | #
nasa (current post):
Perhaps all this attention is deserved. With the possible exception of another world war, a giant asteroid, or an incurable plague, global warming may be the single largest threat to our planet. For decades human factories and cars have spewed billions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and the climate has begun to show some signs of warming.
I've been told that it can be clean, if it's burned correctly. Unfortunately, you all know that this would cost MONEY and the corporatocracy won't have that.
Yes, but it has to be mined first, which is incredibly destructive.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:27 pm | #
I hate those ads where they have kids telling us about "clean coal."
I've been told that it can be clean, if it's burned correctly. Unfortunately, you all know that this would cost MONEY and the corporatocracy won't have that.
Worse, when you clean it up, the byproduct is ungodly amounts of toxic metals and compounds, most notably mercury. What the hell are we going to do with it?
Pitchforks & Torches
lj is a real masochist to constantly be smacked down and yet continue to show up and bare his ass once again. must be something to living in a fact-free world that leads to self-loathing and willfull ignorance.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:28 pm | #
Expect a Warmer, Wetter World this Century, Computer Models Agree
October 19, 2006
BOULDER—Recent episodes of deadly heat in the United States and Europe, long dry spells across the U.S. West, and heavy bursts of rain and snow across much of North America and Eurasia hint at longer-term changes to come, according to a new study based on several of the world's most advanced climate models. Much of the world will face an enhanced risk of heat waves, intense precipitation, and other weather extremes, conclude scientists from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Texas Tech University, and Australia's Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre.
Many previous studies have looked at how average temperature or rainfall might change in the next century as greenhouse gases increase. However, the new research looks more specifically at how weather extremes could change.
"It's the extremes, not the averages, that cause the most damage to society and to many ecosystems," says NCAR scientist Claudia Tebaldi, lead author for the report. "We now have the first model-based consensus on how the risk of dangerous heat waves, intense rains, and other kinds of extreme weather will change in the next century."
The study is one of the first analyses to draw on extensive and sophisticated computer modeling recently carried out for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change...
For all three greenhouse-gas scenarios, the models agree that by 2080-2099:
* The number of extremely warm nights and the length of heat waves will increase significantly over nearly all land areas across the globe. During heat waves, very warm nights are often associated with fatalities because people and buildings have less chance to cool down overnight.
* Most areas above about 40 degrees north will see a significant jump in the number of days with heavy precipitation (days with more than 0.40 inches). This includes the northern tier of U.S. states, Canada, and most of Europe.
* Dry spells could lengthen significantly across the western United States, southern Europe, eastern Brazil, and several other areas. Dry spells are one of several factors in producing and intensifying droughts.
* The average growing season could increase significantly across most of North America and Eurasia.
so, what is Israel, then? We gonna solve the Middle East crises by hauling all the Israelis to Wyoming?
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Cynicus
Well, Wyoming does have plenty of room.
Terry C, An American Again
Doesn't Cheney have a mansion there? Or is he going to move to Paraguay too?
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:28 pm | #
no definitive warming trend over the past two decades
two whole decades! That's such a long time. If this is true then global warming must be revealed to be an elaborate hoax involving 1,000s of scientists from all over the world!
The Old Man From Scene 24
You guys are so much fun...I think maybe I should look into teaching at a "special school"...I presume it would be a lot like dealing with Atridiots...
...darn it...why don't we use all that satellite data from the early 1900's and not just from he past couple of decades??..
..NTodd...for some reason...believed NASA data would support his assertions...that's just dumb...
...yes..it is a hoax...and it's not thousands of qualified scientists..
...in fact..mostuvum aren't even degreed people at all
...the Earth is cooling..the evidence is incontrovertible..
liberal jeenyus |
11.25.06 - 11:28 pm | #
The single moist striking thing about Inconvenient Truth was the simple undeniability of global warming. It is simply amazing once you see the damn figures that our infallible meda has such a hard time presenting.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:28 pm | #
lj is a real masochist to constantly be smacked down and yet continue to show up and bare his ass once again. must be something to living in a fact-free world that leads to self-loathing and willfull ignorance.
He's not listening to us. He's just trolling. Trolls tend to be impervious to fact, anyway.
Expect a Warmer, Wetter World this Century, Computer Models Agree
BOULDER (October 19, 2006) — Recent episodes of deadly heat in the United States and Europe, long dry spells across the U.S. West, and heavy bursts of rain and snow across much of North America and Eurasia hint at longer-term changes to come, according to a new study based on several of the world's most advanced climate models. Much of the world will face an enhanced risk of heat waves, intense precipitation, and other weather extremes, conclude scientists from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), Texas Tech University, and Australia's Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre.
Many previous studies have looked at how average temperature or rainfall might change in the next century as greenhouse gases increase. However, the new research looks more specifically at how weather extremes could change.
"It's the extremes, not the averages, that cause the most damage to society and to many ecosystems," says NCAR scientist Claudia Tebaldi, lead author for the report. "We now have the first model-based consensus on how the risk of dangerous heat waves, intense rains, and other kinds of extreme weather will change in the next century."
The study is one of the first analyses to draw on extensive and sophisticated computer modeling recently carried out for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change... For all three greenhouse-gas scenarios, the models agree that by 2080-2099:
* The number of extremely warm nights and the length of heat waves will increase significantly over nearly all land areas across the globe. During heat waves, very warm nights are often associated with fatalities because people and buildings have less chance to cool down overnight.
* Most areas above about 40 degrees north will see a significant jump in the number of days with heavy precipitation (days with more than 0.40 inches). This includes the northern tier of U.S. states, Canada, and most of Europe.
* Dry spells could lengthen significantly across the western United States, southern Europe, eastern Brazil, and several other areas. Dry spells are one of several factors in producing and intensifying droughts.
* The average growing season could increase significantly across most of North America and Eurasia.
Worse, when you clean it up, the byproduct is ungodly amounts of toxic metals and compounds, most notably mercury. What the hell are we going to do with it?
Feed it to the remaining fish?
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.25.06 - 11:29 pm | #
I've been told that it can be clean, if it's burned correctly. Unfortunately, you all know that this would cost MONEY and the corporatocracy won't have that.
Worse, when you clean it up, the byproduct is ungodly amounts of toxic metals and compounds, most notably mercury. What the hell are we going to do with it?
Pitchforks & Torches
Ah, I hate to differ. There is a difference between burning something properly so it doesn't let "pollutants" go up the smokestack (technology fixes that) and burning fossil fuels in a way that doesn't emit CO2. There ain't no technology that can stop that. That's why the fossil fuel companies will do ANYTHING to prevent people from understanding the global warming dilemna we face.
Bad Art |
11.25.06 - 11:29 pm | #
In any case, the question about the size of population earth can manage and the question about environmental degradation are linked. If, as seems likely, the Chinese and the Indians and ultimately everyone else, too, will want the kind of standard of living we have, then the only feasible way I can see of getting there is to reduce the total population in the future.
Otherwise we will live in a horrible human labyrinth with nothing else in it except agrifirm fields of genetically created species.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.25.06 - 11:30 pm | #
nasa (current post):
Perhaps all this attention is deserved. With the possible exception of another world war, a giant asteroid, or an incurable plague, global warming may be the single largest threat to our planet.
Oops. Juju caught lying once again. Better go tell your source his meme ain't gonna work.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:30 pm | #
Reading way upthread, I'm reminded of this bit from Jimmy Carter's Law Day Speech:
I had lunch this week with the members of the Judicial Selection committee, and they were talking about a consent search warrant. I said I didn't know what a consent search warrant was. They said, "Well, that's when two policemen go to a house. One of them goes to the front door and knocks on it, and the other one runs around to the back door and yells 'come in'."
Little Brøther |
11.25.06 - 11:30 pm | #
People, I understand the troll is being teh stupid, but that doesn't mean you have to talk to it.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:30 pm | #
What the hell are we going to do with it?
Dump it in the rivers, mother nature's natural filters. That and fish livers.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
Send it to Iraq.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:30 pm | #
are chora are pyaar vaar karat ho are ja re chora
tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun
tan tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun
kya kehti hain meri aankhen deewane mere sun hoy
na hai koi mere jaisa mere aashiq mujhko chun hoy
meri chaal pe mere husn pe hain saare pagal
dekh zara mujhko ik nazar kar doongi ghayal
kya ho gaya dil kho gaya haay mar gayi main
kya dard hai kya haal hai aiyo dar gayi main
aye tune aaisa jaadu jaane kya kar daala
bechaini hai chai jhoome man matwala
mere dil mein bajne lagi hai ab chahat wali dhun
doob ja meri aashiqui mein tu mere sapne bun
haay
kya kehti hain meri aankhein
na hai koi mere jaisa
deewane mere sun hoy
mere aashiq mujhko chun oye
k k kya kehti hain meri aankhein d d deewane mere sun hoy
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:31 pm | #
"Pull out? Doesn't sound MANLY to me. Let's say in there and get the job done.
Eons ago, The Committe, an comedy/improv troupe in did askit where somebody, Scott Beach, maybe, gave a lengthy pseudo-Freudian explanation of the relationship between North and South Vietnam and the US and the Communists, based on the shape of the (then) two countries. The punchline came from the interviewer: "So what you're saying is, we're pissing on them and they're shitting on us." Summed it up pretty well in '65.
bo |
11.25.06 - 11:31 pm | #
are chora are pyaar vaar karat ho are ja re chora
tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun
tan tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun tunak tun tun
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:31 pm | #
..NTodd...for some reason...believed NASA data would support his assertions...that's just dumb...
Because I read articles recently about it.
And your data is...dated.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:31 pm | #
...the Earth is cooling..the evidence is incontrovertible..
liberal jeenyus | 11.25.06 - 11:28 pm | #
why just last month temperatures were a good 10-20 degrees higher!
you are truly an idiot. as defined as one incapable of learning. and why? because you don't want to.
have a nice life. short, but nice.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:31 pm | #
...the Earth is cooling..the evidence is incontrovertible..
if you listen to bushco, which inteelligent people don't do. only rightard losers in the tiny minority of Americans listen to bushco, and fewer every day, fortunately.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:31 pm | #
kya kehti hain meri aankhen deewane mere sun hoy
na hai koi mere jaisa mere aashiq mujhko chun hoy
sun hoy
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:32 pm | #
Ronjazz,
I play mostly badly.
But I still like to play occasionally.
DWD |
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11.25.06 - 11:32 pm | #
People, I understand the troll is being teh stupid, but that doesn't mean you have to talk to it.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Amen, sister. Best to Maxx.
Lord Nelson |
11.25.06 - 11:32 pm | #
Doesn't Cheney have a mansion there? Or is he going to move to Paraguay too?
I am Dick (Dick!) Cheney.
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.25.06 - 11:32 pm | #
meri chaal pe mere husn pe hain saare pagal
dekh zara mujhko ik nazar kar doongi ghayal
kya ho gaya dil kho gaya haay mar gayi main
kya dard hai kya haal hai aiyo dar gayi main
aye tune aaisa jaadu jaane kya kar daala
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:32 pm | #
lj is a real masochist to constantly be smacked down and yet continue to show up and bare his ass once again. must be something to living in a fact-free world that leads to self-loathing and willfull ignorance.
ronjazz, gloater |
...you keep mentioning smackdowns..
..when?...where?...how?...by whom?..
It seems I've been spectacularly successful at proving my points..
..speaking of that...has Echidne been around much since I embarassed her in our Economics discussion?..
liberal jeenyus |
11.25.06 - 11:32 pm | #
If someone gives me a free house in Jackson Hole, this Jew will be only too happy to move to Wyoming.
The Kenosha Kid |
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11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
bechaini hai chai jhoome man matwala
mere dil mein bajne lagi hai ab chahat wali dhun
doob ja meri aashiqui mein tu mere sapne bun
haay
kya kehti hain meri aankhein
na hai koi mere jaisa
deewane mere sun hoy
mere aashiq mujhko chun oye
k k kya kehti hain meri aankhein d d deewane mere sun hoy
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
Coal can be burned cleanly, but it's a Faustian bargain. Essentially, the disagreement is moot because the end-product is in actuality, NOT clean.
That was my point.
Pitchforks & Torches |
11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
lj is a real masochist to constantly be smacked down and yet continue to show up and bare his ass once again. must be something to living in a fact-free world that leads to self-loathing and willfull ignorance.
ronjazz, gloater
It's like its preznit.
Everyone else is wrong and it's right.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
g'night.
there's no sense arguing with a brick wall. especially a particularly stupid one.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
..speaking of that...has Echidne been around much since I embarassed her in our Economics discussion?..
I'm here sweeting.
I don't debate economics with you, honey, for the same reason as I don't debate economics with my dog, admirable as she is.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
ronjazz--just swung back by on my way to bed. Yes, please let me know if you play up here anywhere.
liberal jeenyus, you really need to learn how to spell.
pie |
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11.25.06 - 11:34 pm | #
Echidne's dog is one of these libertarians who thinks he groks Milton Firedman.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:34 pm | #
So, with global warming, we will all go underground.
Long live the Mole People!
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:35 pm | #
If someone gives me a free house in Jackson Hole, this Jew will be only too happy to move to Wyoming.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 11.25.06 - 11:33 pm | #
If libertarians can move to New Hampshire, we could relocate Israel to Wyoming. All we need to do is reinterpret some parts of Biblical geography. Maybe the Red Sea was the Atlantic Ocean.
Libertarians move to New Hampshire, Jews move to Wyoming, and pantsless loosers move to Vermont.
The Kenosha Kid |
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11.25.06 - 11:36 pm | #
So, with global warming, we will all go underground.
Long live the Mole People!
That's a load of Morlocks!
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Cynicus |
11.25.06 - 11:37 pm | #
There is a difference between burning something properly so it doesn't let "pollutants" go up the smokestack (technology fixes that) and burning fossil fuels in a way that doesn't emit CO2. There ain't no technology that can stop that.
You can "scrub" the CO2 from the output, but thats not cheap and you have to do something with the recovered carbon.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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11.25.06 - 11:37 pm | #
I hate those ads where they have kids telling us about "clean coal."
The single biggest source of mercury emissions, coal fired power plants. Even the "clean" ones.
It's always stymied me how for wingnuts, abortion is bad - but poisoning a fetus with mercury-contaminated canned tuna is A-OK.
Stinky |
11.25.06 - 11:37 pm | #
,i>...the Earth is cooling..the evidence is incontrovertible..
liberal jeenyus | 11.25.06 - 11:28 pm | #
why just last month temperatures were a good 10-20 degrees higher!
you are truly an idiot. as defined as one incapable of learning. and why? because you don't want to.
have a nice life. short, but nice.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
It's one small step from cognitive dissonance to shouty-crackers..
...I'll translate for Dirk..
.."I can't refute anything liberal jeenyus said, instead I'll just call him a dumb poopyhead"..
liberal jeenyus |
11.25.06 - 11:37 pm | #
If libertarians can move to New Hampshire, we could relocate Israel to Wyoming. All we need to do is reinterpret some parts of Biblical geography. Maybe the Red Sea was the Atlantic Ocean.
Black Adam
And Lo, God saw Dick Cheney's house and saith,"Give thee, the black-hearted growler man, thine house to the poor Israelites who explode and gnash their teeth...
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:37 pm | #
(X_X)&(OLO) Is that Navajo?
Bad Art | 11.25.06 - 11:36 pm |
Good Night, Mrs. Calabash wherever you are.
bo |
11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
Wyoming doesn't have enough water to support 4 million new residents. At least, it is not able to deny downstream users their first-use rights.
Pitchforks & Torches |
11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
All trollz are legends in their own minds.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
.."I can't refute anything liberal jeenyus said, instead I'll just call him a dumb poopyhead"
Who can't refute what?
pie |
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11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
The New York Times instances in which they said political pressure was applied to limit or flavor discussions of topics uncomfortable to the Bush administration, particularly global warming
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Our DEM Congress had better extend the work week!!
So much to reveal, so little time.
Nancy Willing |
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11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
It's one small step from cognitive dissonance to shouty-crackers..
Do you know how often I would, just for once, be something different. Everytime I fill out a survey I am forced to put WHITE. But I am DUTCH and that is a distinctive entity.
It is hard always being the oppressor and the enemy of all.
And then, to top it off, I am MALE. Geez, how much worse can a person get?
DWD |
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11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
DWD, playing is playing. it's supposed to be fun no matter how well or badly. I look at it as my lifelong Work Avoidance Program. making money is always the tough part, because most of us are going to play no matter what. the way I see it, the freelancer in any field restarts his or her career every morning.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:39 pm | #
It's always stymied me how for wingnuts, abortion is bad - but poisoning a fetus with mercury-contaminated canned tuna is A-OK.
Stinky
Well, these are the same people who think abortion is bad, but it's okay to cut off social and educational programs for those fetuses once they're born.
They also think it's okay to ship those fetuses off to war in 18, 20 years.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:39 pm | #
Wyoming doesn't have enough water to support 4 million new residents. At least, it is not able to deny downstream users their first-use rights.
Pitchforks & Torches | 11.25.06 - 11:38 pm | #
The IDF would probably just take the water anyway. But, you know, you can't make a new state without breaking eggs.
And then, to top it off, I am MALE. Geez, how much worse can a person get?
I'm willing to swop with you. Not the neckache, though.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.25.06 - 11:39 pm | #
TKK,
Do you know how often I would, just for once, be something different. Everytime I fill out a survey I am forced to put WHITE. But I am DUTCH and that is a distinctive entity.
It is hard always being the oppressor and the enemy of all.
And then, to top it off, I am MALE. Geez, how much worse can a person get?
DWD
Well, my Atridiot friends...the ND/USC game over and it's off to bed...
...again...I hope you take what I've taught you tonight and use it wisely..
liberal jeenyus |
11.25.06 - 11:40 pm | #
this one reminds me of Gordon...
nick carraway |
11.25.06 - 11:40 pm | #
Do you know how often I would, just for once, be something different. Everytime I fill out a survey I am forced to put WHITE. But I am DUTCH and that is a distinctive entity.
I've made the decision to fill out "Eskimo" under ethnicity from now on.
At the very least, I should be getting some interesting mail.
I've made the decision to fill out "Eskimo" under ethnicity from now on.
I thought you people liked to be called Inuits?
The Kenosha Kid |
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11.25.06 - 11:41 pm | #
Hunh. I was just reading a biography of Vera-Ellen on IMDB. She had anorexia and all the costumes in this movie are designed to cover her neck, which was aged beyond her years.
Before there was even a name for anorexia.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:41 pm | #
"Actually, my grandmother was Dutch."
General Longstreet, is that you?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:42 pm | #
Hunh. I was just reading a biography of Vera-Ellen on IMDB. She had anorexia and all the costumes in this movie are designed to cover her neck, which was aged beyond her years.
Before there was even a name for anorexia.
flory, keeper of the list | 11.25.06 - 11:41 pm | #
So you're watching "Holiday Inn" on TCM right now? "Smallest waist in Hollywood"!
Wyoming doesn't have enough water to support 4 million new residents. At least, it is not able to deny downstream users their first-use rights.
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Isn't it fair to call this grandfathered rights?
I am trying to make this point LOUD and CLEAR in my state about devleoper/land owner vs adequate facilities (who pays should be the builder et al) and natural resources.
They are fucking pissed at this argument and the more I get pissing and moaning, the more I think I have a nice legal defense against overdevelopment.
Nancy Willing |
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11.25.06 - 11:42 pm | #
Good night, fellow travelers. I must drift.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker |
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11.25.06 - 11:42 pm | #
...again...I hope you take what I've taught you tonight and use it wisely..
Yeah, I've got everything you said engraved on this Louisville Slugger. Come a little closer...
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
Well, my Atridiot friends...the ND/USC game over and it's off to bed...
...again...I hope you take what I've taught you tonight and use it wisely..
lying jerkoff
Here's hoping its computer catches fire overnight. It's even more stupid and obnoxious than Gordon, and I didn't think that was possible.
lj is verging on AssVestus territory.
Again, goodnight folks.
Terry C, An American Again |
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11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
(PS I have exciting pics of my Vegas trip up on my blog now)
The Kenosha Kid |
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11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
I thought you people liked to be called Inuits?
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 11.25.06 - 11:41 pm | #
Only our people can use that name. It's an Inuit thang. You wouldn't understand.
Black Adam |
11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
Wyoming doesn't have enough water to support 4 million new residents. At least, it is not able to deny downstream users their first-use rights.
Can't Wyoming just steal water from Colorado, in the tradition of Arizona and California?
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
Hunh. I was just reading a biography of Vera-Ellen on IMDB. She had anorexia and all the costumes in this movie are designed to cover her neck, which was aged beyond her years.
She was some dancer though.
How old was she when she shot this film? All of 24?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
So long as you have a certain percentage of Dutch blood, preferably from female ancestors for maximum racial transfer but they make exceptions, they give you free illegal settlements taken from the Flemish. But you have to be ready to defend yourself from the Belgians.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
in the U.S., revenge and religious zealotry can be stronger compulsions than democracy and prosperity
Fixed her typo.
masculine_monica_nyc
Thanks for my first belly-laugh in weeks.
Pitchforks & Torches |
11.25.06 - 11:43 pm | #
Night Terry C. May visions of burning trolls send you to your rest.
Sixty year old retired grandma called to Iraq http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...11/25/211615/
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was just watching the six o'clock news on CBS here in LA. And they just got through showing a totally white haired sixty year old grandma who is a retired Air Force Major who has just been reactivated to Iraq. She said she was not free to give her mos. But that other grandparents had been called to go and she just "happened" to be noticed.
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Given stories like this, I wonder if McCain is risking being recalled himself if they actually implement his futile plan.
Richard |
11.25.06 - 11:44 pm | #
NTodd... you posted a Clinton era economic overview.... Those were the days...
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:44 pm | #
shit, lj, you can't hold on to a single point without somebody destroying it in minutes! The fact that you're a poopyhead is just because of your lack of self-awareness. you've done nothing but lie and move goalposts here since you first showed up, so what do you expect? I consider you an enemy of freedom and America, moreso than any of the innocent Iraqis murdered by Bush, because you should know better. Your parents must suck.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:45 pm | #
Given stories like this, I wonder if McCain is risking being recalled himself if they actually implement his futile plan.
Richard | 11.25.06 - 11:44 pm | #
"All of those who want to go to Iraq, please raise your hands."
Oh damn, shoulda gotten that. Longstreet makes a similar comment in Gettysburg, and that's more prominent in my synapses.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.25.06 - 11:45 pm | #
lj is verging on AssVestus territory.
What's the difference? They're all obnoxious.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:45 pm | #
I'm out of here, too.
I think lying jerkoff/dipshit needs to be banned.
Just for being an ignorant, repetitive bore.
'night, folks!
Terry C, An American Again |
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish
-Euripides..
So long as you have a certain percentage of Dutch blood, preferably from female ancestors for maximum racial transfer but they make exceptions, they give you free illegal settlements taken from the Flemish. But you have to be ready to defend yourself from the Belgians.
(X_X)&(OLO)
DWD |
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11.25.06 - 11:46 pm | #
NTodd... you posted a Clinton era economic overview....
I did? how SILLY of me! Well, I know I've got an overview around here somewhere that shows just how fucking awesome 2006's economy is. Hold on...oh, sorry, the Very Important Football game is over, so I need to go to bed.
Well, I hope you all learned something tonight.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:47 pm | #
And they just got through showing a totally white haired sixty year old grandma who is a retired Air Force Major who has just been reactivated to Iraq. She said she was not free to give her mos. But that other grandparents had been called to go and she just "happened" to be noticed.
Well, now there's a great idea! send the grandmas off to Iraq.
This has been the latest in our series.....
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:47 pm | #
And Lo, God saw Dick Cheney's house
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Cheney lives within 100 miles of me at st. Michaels on the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake with Rummey nearby.
heebee geebee
Nancy Willing |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:47 pm | #
Increased violence in Iraq can be directly attributed to the Democrat victories 2 weeks ago in Congress. The insurgents now know that President Bush will be undercut at every opportunity by the Democrat Congress and that the insurgency now has a real chance at victory if Democrat Party does not stay the course. The terrorists now assume we will cut and run under the Pelosi Democrat Party. Fred Barnes summed up this very thesis tonight on Fox News "The Beltway Boys" with Mort Kondracke in full agreement and Kondracke calls them straight down the middle, he is not a right wing zealot, as some on the left accuse Barnes of being.
red white and blue |
11.25.06 - 11:48 pm | #
"Voting experts say it is impossible to say how many votes were not counted that should have been. But in Florida alone, the discrepancies reported across Sarasota County and three others amount to more than 60,000 votes. In Colorado, as many as 20,000 people gave up trying to vote, election officials say, as new online systems for verifying voter registrations crashed repeatedly. And in Arkansas, election officials tallied votes three times in one county, and each time the number of ballots cast changed by more than 30,000."
NYT via Joshua Marshall
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:48 pm | #
Duke Cunningham is now known as inmate No. 94405-198.
Clearly Bush has no economic problems because of a projected upturn ten years from now!
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:48 pm | #
So long as you have a certain percentage of Dutch blood, preferably from female ancestors for maximum racial transfer but they make exceptions, they give you free illegal settlements taken from the Flemish. But you have to be ready to defend yourself from the Belgians.
(X_X)&(OLO)
Well, Hell, I qualify. All four of my grandparents were from the Netherlands. Now, what do I win?
(DAMNED TAGS and DRUGS that make me do stupid things)
DWD |
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11.25.06 - 11:48 pm | #
I think lj should be forced to drive a 50-tonne rig on one of those ice roads in Northern Ontario.
In early April.
"No", says lj, nothing will go wrong, there is no global warming, I'll do it.
I did? how SILLY of me! Well, I know I've got an overview around here somewhere that shows just how fucking awesome 2006's economy is. Hold on...oh, sorry, the Very Important Football game is over, so I need to go to bed.
Well, I hope you all learned something tonight.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
If we can choose our own reality like Georgie did, I wanna go back to the Clinton era. I'll take some duct tape and fix Bill's zipper though....
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:50 pm | #
Fred Barnes summed up this very thesis tonight on Fox News...
Very compelling. I have a competing theory: the rise in violence is directly correlated to the rise in global temps.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:50 pm | #
Know your Republican felons.
Otherwise known as the "Beagle Boys".
(two points if you get the reference without recourse to The Google)
Increased violence in Iraq can be directly attributed to the Democrat victories 2 weeks ago in Congress... red white and blue | 11.25.06 - 11:48 pm | #
Shift change.
They work in well lit and ventilated offices near McLean, Virginia.
Shit change.
Nope.
shawk |
11.25.06 - 11:51 pm | #
speaking of ignorant shitheads, here's rw&b with the latest from the beltway boyz, rithwing fucktards who've never held real jobs in their lives. the blame game is in full swing. so much for personal responsibility. let's extend the "know your republican felons" list as we go.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:52 pm | #
Know your Republican felons.
Otherwise known as the "Beagle Boys".
(two points if you get the reference without recourse to The Google)
Black Adam
Unka Scrooge! and the special dime!
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:52 pm | #
TKK, story of my life. My wife is 1/8 Chippewa. That ain't much good either. My father in law is 1/4 but unable to prove his heritage because the family tended to travel back and forth between the USA and Canada. (His name, Gillmer, is a derivation of the French Gilmour. His grandmother was named Smoke.)
DWD |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:52 pm | #
Black Adam is a troll.
An Inuit troll.
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:52 pm | #
Otherwise known as the "Beagle Boys".
(two points if you get the reference without recourse to The Google)
the Beagle Boys were always after Scrooge McDuck's moola, no?
nick carraway |
11.25.06 - 11:53 pm | #
Well, now there's a great idea! send the grandmas off to Iraq.
I forget: Is that better or worse than gunning them down in their homes in Atlanta?
masculine_monica_nyc
Wow! Bush's Social Security plan is working!
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.25.06 - 11:53 pm | #
I forget: Is that better or worse than gunning them down in their homes in Atlanta?
It's still in the experimental phase. They'll figure out which one works best, and then stick to it.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.25.06 - 11:53 pm | #
Ntodd, why don't you invite the trollz back to your place?
They've always had an open invite. Apparently my refusal to serve Cheetos is a real barrier to entry.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:54 pm | #
Sending to grandmothers would work, but we should first send the most infirm. That way health care costs will go down more rapidly, too.
(snark)
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.25.06 - 11:54 pm | #
Aww, damn. I didnt tell my hawt latina story, or my "Joes on a Camel" joke. Foo-yock!
And I have to sleep, soon.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.25.06 - 11:55 pm | #
I forget: Is that better or worse than gunning them down in their homes in Atlanta?
masculine_monica_nyc
At least they get combat pay in Iraq.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.25.06 - 11:55 pm | #
They've always had an open invite. Apparently my refusal to serve Cheetos is a real barrier to entry.
I just thought maybe it would give the rest of us some peeance and quietance.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:55 pm | #
NTodd, did you get my fuzzy snaps of Colby, or possibly Colby?
Echidne of the snakes |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:56 pm | #
Black Adam is an Inuit-fucking half-elf half-orc with a penchant for double-dipping his chips. BASTARD.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:56 pm | #
I have a competing theory: the rise in violence is directly correlated to the rise in global temps.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
My theorem states that it is related to the rising freqs of mother earth
The Spaghetti God |
11.25.06 - 11:56 pm | #
the rise in violence in Iraq is in direct correlation to the cowardice of the leadership in the green zone. bush's handpicked failures have lost this war, and truthfully the dems can do nothing about it except try to save some American lives by getting the fuck out. even throwing rummy under the bus didn't help, because there's nobody in the reNAMBLAcan ranks to replace him that's any better. Top to bottom incompetence and treason. history will have a field day.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.25.06 - 11:57 pm | #
We knew a number of marines with asthma, drug waivers, and a few who supposedly had disorders involving seizures that really should've gotten them out altogether.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.25.06 - 11:58 pm | #
Ronjazz, stop being ambiguous and tell us what you REALLY think.
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:59 pm | #
Is Black Adam Irish?
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.25.06 - 11:59 pm | #
Yesterday I was struck this terrible feeling of kindness, and I started planning knitting sweaters for all and sundry Atriots. Then I lay down for a while and it passed. A close call, though.
Echidne of the snakes |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:00 am | #
When is it going to snow in this fucking movie?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:00 am | #
Is Black Adam Irish?
ellroon, hair afire | Homepage | 11.25.06 - 11:59 pm | #
And why all of a sudden am I remined of Full Metal Jacket...?
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:00 am | #
From Josh Marshall regarding the self-funding insurgency in U.S.-occupied Iraq:
For instance, one of the secret report's more surprising conclusions, according to The Times, is "that terrorist and insurgent groups in Iraq may have surplus funds with which to support other terrorist organizations outside of Iraq.” It seems counterintuitive that the armed Shiite and Sunni militias battling for control of Iraq would be financing terrorists outside of Iraq while the battle inside of Iraq still hangs in the balance.
In fairness, The Times makes clear that the secret report may be flawed: "Some terrorism experts outside the government who were given an outline of the report by The Times, criticized it for a lack of precision and a reliance on speculation."
Good to go then, eh?
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.26.06 - 12:00 am | #
Yesterday I was struck this terrible feeling of kindness, and I started planning knitting sweaters for all and sundry Atriots. Then I lay down for a while and it passed. A close call, though.
Oh, thank goodness. It's too hot here to wear a sweater.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:01 am | #
Actually, I'm hoping Hastings gets his chair. He has a lot of revenge coming, and this group needs to be clubbed into full submission. Hastings would be great, having nothing to lose. Then turn Conyers and the rest loose, with Nancy holding the house in session forever, and the list of ReNAMBLAcan felons would be never-ending. Spring will be great this year.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:01 am | #
"But Shazam, aren't there legally questionable similarities between myself and a certain more famous dark-haired flying caped superhero?"
"Damn your ingratitude! Now I must start all over and defame your memory in the official histories!"
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.26.06 - 12:01 am | #
Yesterday I was struck this terrible feeling of kindness, and I started planning knitting sweaters for all and sundry Atriots. Then I lay down for a while and it passed. A close call, though.
Echidne of the snakes
Though it's amazing how much of this film I've forgotten.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:02 am | #
Now why on earth would a Mick fuck an Eskimo?
Whiskey: it warms the cockles AND activates them too!
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Cynicus |
11.26.06 - 12:02 am | #
I don't know but I've been told
Pantsless in Vermont gets mighty cold.
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:02 am | #
I'd think twice before pissing Black Adam off.
Known Powers: Black Adam can switch to Theo Adam's body by saying SHAZAM. He possesses:
S for the Stamina of Shu: Using Shu's endurance, Black Adam can withstand and survive most types of extreme physical assaults. Additonally, he does not need to eat or breathe and can survive unaided in space. (Superhuman Endurance, Internal Sustenance)
H for the Swiftness of Heru: By channeling Heru's speed, Black Adam can fly and steadily run at a top speed of Mach 500. (Supersonic Speed & Flight)
A for the Strength of Amon: Black Adam has a phenomonal level of super strength, able to easily bend steel, punch through walls and lift massive objects. Adam's strength is enough that he can hold his own against beings such as Superman or Captain Marvel. (Superhuman Strength)
Z for the Wisdom of Zehuti: Black Adam has instant access to a vast level of scholarly knowledge. The wisdom of Zehuti also gives Adam clairvoyance and provides him with counsel and advice in times of need. (Superhuman Knowledge, Clairvoyance)
A for the Power of Aton: Aton's power, besides fueling the magic thunderbolt that transforms Adam, also enhances Adam's other physical abilities and allows for interdimensional travel. Adam can use the lightning bolt as a weapon by dodging it and allowing it to strike an opponent or target. (Physical Enhancement, Interdimensional Travel)
M for the Courage of Mehen: This aspect is partly psychological, and gives Adam superhuman amounts of inner strength to draw off of, while also making him indestructable to harm like the great snake itself. (Superhuman Inner Strength, Invulnerability)
Richard |
11.26.06 - 12:02 am | #
"But Shazam, aren't there legally questionable similarities between myself and a certain more famous dark-haired flying caped superhero?"
"Damn your ingratitude! Now I must start all over and defame your memory in the official histories!"
I'm not saying that old wizard whose name I won't say was prejudiced, but he always wanted me to dance and kept rubbing my hair for "good luck".
When is it going to snow in this fucking movie?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
When NTodd stops talking about global warming, it's his fault!
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:03 am | #
I wish it would snow here.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:03 am | #
Oh, thank goodness. It's too hot here to wear a sweater.
I was planning a linen one for you. With Fair Isle motives of running cats across the chest and no sleeves. A slipover, it's called.
The problem with my plans is that they get ever more grandious and when I actually have to carry them out it takes years. So I usually just give money.
One year I made pin cushions with needlepoint with bees and needles and lions and a dodo bird and some French lilies, all designed to match the owner's personality and hobbies, and it took me almost all my free time. Then I get grumpy and hate people.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 12:04 am | #
Yesterday I was struck this terrible feeling of kindness, and I started planning knitting sweaters for all and sundry Atriots.
Your gloat raneth over.
masculine_monica_nyc |
11.26.06 - 12:04 am | #
Quick question: I'm having problems with javascript...for example, I can't open java links on websites. Can one of the resident geeks (meaning: anyone who knows more about computers than me, i.e. everyone) recommend a fix?
Jennifer |
11.26.06 - 12:04 am | #
Kenosha, did you get your hat? Howdy!
Yeah, I'm a bit bloodthirsty. ReNAMBLAcans have been the bane of my existence for most of my life. Once, in a fit of bipartisanship, i voted for one. Motherfucker was in jail not 8 weeks after the election, no shit. They aren't fit to puke on.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:04 am | #
I wish it would snow here.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
It snowed long ago in southern California...
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:05 am | #
Known Powers: Black Adam can switch to Theo Adam's body by saying SHAZAM. He possesses:
Between you and me, Zehuti wasn't all that smart. He graduated from the equivalent of Liberty University of Ancient Egypt. I'd keep trying to access his magnificent "knowledge" in a fight with Marvel, and all I'd get would be ancient verses about how Ra was going to smite the unbelievers.
I didn't get the hat back, though those Liberal Mountain people certainly had the opportunity this morning.
The Kenosha Kid |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:07 am | #
Thor is the best superhero.
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:07 am | #
Not that the current crop of centrist cowards are much better, mind you. Al Gore had better run again; he owes us for fucking up the first time. And I hope a truck has Lieberman's name on the grill.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:07 am | #
and Echidne, I could have used a sweater.
Yours would have been in all sorts of colors in the background, with rows of the word "word" in all languages of the world, going around and around.
I'm nuts.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 12:07 am | #
KK, they probably have 6 or 7 kids living in it.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:08 am | #
The "word" would have been in black.
Echidne of the snakes |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:08 am | #
there's enough oil for hundreds of years. i don't know what the fuck george w and dick are blathering about.
And most of it is domestic. Yea us!
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
So....why'd we attack Iraq then?
The Saudi's ordered up the war. 43 and it's poodle are nothing but dupes for the repression that is the Saudi Arabian government.
smalfish |
11.26.06 - 12:09 am | #
Between you and me, Zehuti wasn't all that smart. He graduated from the equivalent of Liberty University of Ancient Egypt
Ok, i'll ask the dumb question: with Egyptian deities like Thoth and Ptah and Isis to access for smarts, why a minor-league one? Cheaper? Union?
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Cynicus |
11.26.06 - 12:09 am | #
I still like the pristine whiteness of snow.
Me too.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:10 am | #
Thor is the best superhero.
Jack Kirby rulez! So does Walt Simonson.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 12:10 am | #
Echidne,
It sounds lovely and I will treasure the thought forever.
Amd I do actually love words. Woke up this one on my mind: myleomengicil.
(it is a terrible congenital anomoly, but it sounds cool)
DWD |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:10 am | #
I do not believe that, in my lifetime, things have ever, ever, ever been this screwed up. There has never, in my lifetime, been a more inept or criminally negligent president. Never.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:10 am | #
Ok, i'll ask the dumb question: with Egyptian deities like Thoth and Ptah and Isis to access for smarts, why a minor-league one? Cheaper? Union?
It was the only one he could find that began with "Z". Else, I'd have to say "SHAPAM!" to transform.
And Thor is married to ever delightful, Sif with the golden hair.
DWD |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:11 am | #
Ok, i'll ask the dumb question: with Egyptian deities like Thoth and Ptah and Isis to access for smarts, why a minor-league one? Cheaper? Union?
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Cynicus
Because saying the magic word "Thoptam!" makes one sound like Billy Batson with a speech impediment.
elkal |
11.26.06 - 12:11 am | #
I don't know but I've been told
Pantsless in Vermont gets mighty cold.
Kenosha almost gets it.
I don't know but I've been told
Vermont maple syrup is mighty cold.
When NTodd stops talking about global warming, it's his fault!
I am, in fact, full of hot air.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:11 am | #
He could have yelled "Shatham", then done a show tune.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:12 am | #
I was planning a linen one for you. With Fair Isle motives of running cats across the chest and no sleeves. A slipover, it's called.
Oh, good heavens. Wouldn't that take years?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:12 am | #
And I do agree w/Josh Marshall. I think W is bored, now, and he has disengaged.
None of this is fun any more, nor does he have any more campaigning (cheerleading) to do, so, basically, he is so outta here.
What can anyone do to him now? Nothing.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:12 am | #
Re: superheroes: Bugs Bunny is the top of the heap.
I mean, Superman has X-ray vision, but Bugs can make a bulldozer appear behind a shrub exactly when he needs it. Bugs is more like god, thus, the ultimate cartoon superhero.
Jennifer |
11.26.06 - 12:12 am | #
This weekend is going way way way too fast.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 12:13 am | #
It was the only one he could find that began with "Z". Else, I'd have to say "SHAPAM!" to transform.
Ah.
Forgive me, for a second i forgot we were talking 'comical books'. Gotta keep that old shin-hod-aleph-zod-aleph-mene, eh?
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Cynicus |
11.26.06 - 12:13 am | #
Amd I do actually love words. Woke up this one on my mind: myleomengicil.
Perhaps you should seek help for that.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 12:13 am | #
And thanks for all the javascript advice, you bitches.
I mean, Superman has X-ray vision, but Bugs can make a bulldozer appear behind a shrub exactly when he needs it. Bugs is more like god, thus, the ultimate cartoon superhero.
Jennifer
That would make Elmer Fudd Job?
elkal |
11.26.06 - 12:14 am | #
ID makes more sense with bugs in charge.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:14 am | #
jennifer, I'm on a Mac, thus have no fucking idea what you're on about. isn't javascript like Starbucks secret formula?
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:15 am | #
I do not believe that, in my lifetime, things have ever, ever, ever been this screwed up. There has never, in my lifetime, been a more inept or criminally negligent president. Never.
Sarah Deere
Even Nixon was not this bad. Or corrupt. Or dishonest. Or stupid. Or venial. Or greedy. Or hateful. Or...gotta take a breath.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 12:16 am | #
Beats the fuck out of me, ronjazz. All I know is the shit isn't working.
Jennifer |
11.26.06 - 12:16 am | #
He could have yelled "Shatham", then done a show tune.
ronjazz, gloater | 11.26.06 - 12:12 am | #
If I could find the right Egyptian deities, I'd upgrade to "SHATNER!"
Oh sweet Lord, but i wish i knew how to post the little laughing faces! i've awakened the household with bellylaughs.
thank you.
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Cynicus |
11.26.06 - 12:17 am | #
Even Nixon was not this bad. Or corrupt. Or dishonest. Or stupid. Or venial. Or greedy. Or hateful. Or...gotta take a breath.
ellroon, hair afire | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 12:16 am | #
So did Mr. Mxyztlplkx letters stand for interdemensional deities too?
elkal |
11.26.06 - 12:17 am | #
BLEACH!
and
Any appeal to the Egyptian pantheon, besides bringing up the Nine (a CIA project involving the co-opting of the New Agers), that does not mention Maat (the Egyptian equivalent of our word "God" as both as specific entity and a whole category), is fishy.
(X_X)&(OLO) |
11.26.06 - 12:17 am | #
I like sweaters.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.26.06 - 12:18 am | #
What is this 'snow' of which you speak?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 12:18 am | #
Shouldn't that be ntrdmntnl dts?
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:19 am | #
Nice.
That was the whitest white I'd ever seen in my entire life. It was an incredible day. I'm the one scowling in the picture.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 12:19 am | #
What can anyone do to him now? Nothing.
Sarah Deere
I have visions of sending him off to the Hague. That might just pique his interest a bit.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.26.06 - 12:19 am | #
From the glare, no doubt.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:20 am | #
George W. Bush: The President Quayle We Never Had
And we all though Pat Buchanan would be a disaster.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:20 am | #
Just waiting.
Just waiting for Shoelimpy to show up again.
Pay no attention to me.
I'm just going to chew his unit off and let him bleed to death in front of the kids and everyone.
eh |
11.26.06 - 12:21 am | #
Oh sweet Lord, but i wish i knew how to post the little laughing faces! i've awakened the household with bellylaughs.
thank you.
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Cynicus
Look at the box where you print your comments. See the little blue question mark right by the Comment: ?
Anything for this crowd. Trolls not included.
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 12:24 am | #
what, lj ran away already? what a loser.
ronjazz, gloater
He's not a loser, he's The Interrupter.
Pitchforks & Torches |
11.26.06 - 12:24 am | #
First appearance of Liza Minelli in any motion picture.
Screenplay by Sidney Sheldon.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 12:24 am | #
Ok, i'll ask the dumb question: with Egyptian deities like Thoth and Ptah and Isis to access for smarts, why a minor-league one? Cheaper? Union?
No, think more along the lines of Thales as the Earth has a magnetic field so do you. Some are high in Qi or Chi and others are not. Smart is not Wisdom. Karl Rove proves that =)
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 12:25 am | #
I should also bring up the "deities" that Captain Marbles called up in the Superduperman story in the 1950s Mad Magazine, when he spoke the magic word "SHAZOOM!"
Strength
Health
Aptitude
Zeal
Ox, Power Of
Ox, Power Of Another
Money
Night, all
DWD |
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11.26.06 - 12:26 am | #
I'm off as well, good hang.
ronjazz, gloater |
11.26.06 - 12:27 am | #
I like sweaters too.
It's just to warm to wear them here.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 12:27 am | #
Flory--I like sweaters, too. Especially cashmere ones. Mmm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sigh.
I wish I could wear cashmere. Makes me itch.
My sweaters are all cotton or linen or silk or some combination thereof...
flory, keeper of the list |
11.26.06 - 12:27 am | #
why does something so simple stump the best and brightest minds?
I should also bring up the "deities" that Captain Marbles called up in the Superduperman story in the 1950s Mad Magazine, when he spoke the magic word "SHAZOOM!"
Oh yeh, then theres that =)
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 12:28 am | #
Night, all
DWD
Night DWD.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 12:28 am | #
Flory--no fluffy angora?
The horror!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 12:28 am | #
Oh, good heavens. Wouldn't that take years?
Sorry, went downstairs to scavenge for some food.
No, it wouldn't take years but most of the evenings of one winter for me, so add that to the DVD project and for flory it would have been this interesting pattern I have which makes the flowers come out three-dimensional and it would be fun to merge that with intarsia and so it goes.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 12:29 am | #
Armed with the newfound knowledge of how to make the little laughy faces, i'm off to explore the Word of Power that is.......SHATNER!!
G'night, folks. Hope to catch you tomorrow.
-
Cynicus |
11.26.06 - 12:29 am | #
John McCains's New Fighting Techique Is Unstoppable!
Danny Guam |
11.26.06 - 12:29 am | #
I thought it would be more realistic if the superheroes would yell OH SHIT before they gained their powers...
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 12:30 am | #
BLEACH! is over with now. We retire. You guys see a subsequent blatt over this tag about killing off all the somebodies you know what's up.
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11.26.06 - 12:31 am | #
Here is one of my sweaters.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 12:31 am | #
'kay. We're out. l8rh9rs.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie
Your animals do wonders for world peace, NTodd.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 12:32 am | #
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms.
The two-hour broadcast from a community gathering in the heart of the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City included three members of al-Sadr's parliamentary bloc, who took questions from outraged residents demanding revenge for a series of car bombings that killed some 200 people Thursday.
With Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki relegated to the sidelines, brazen Sunni-Shiite attacks continue unchecked despite a 24-hour curfew over Baghdad. Al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia now controls wide swaths of the capital, his politicians are the backbone of the Cabinet, and his followers deeply entrenched in the Iraqi security forces. Sectarian violence has spun so rapidly out of control since the Sadr City blasts, however, that it's not clear whether even al-Sadr has the authority - or the will - to stop the cycle of bloodshed.
Were you out frolicking this evening?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 12:37 am | #
I should also bring up the "deities" that Captain Marbles called up in the Superduperman story in the 1950s Mad Magazine, when he spoke the magic word "SHAZOOM!"
Strength
Health
Aptitude
Zeal
Ox, power of
Ox, power of another
Money
SHAZOOM!!!!!!
Harvey Kurtzman was a fucking genius.
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 12:38 am | #
Anyone for some French apple pie?
Of course!!
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 12:38 am | #
None of this is fun any more, nor does he have any more campaigning (cheerleading) to do, so, basically, he is so outta here.
What can anyone do to him now? Nothing.
Sarah Deere
Have faith, John Conyers isn't in gear yet. The wicked witch and all of the flying monkeys will be indicted. If the Dems are smart, they'll delay the trials until AFTER January 2009. No pardons.
The unimaginable excesses that even the sharpest investigators could imagine will surface. The vast network of destruction they've built will unravel by the mile.
Have faith!
Pitchforks & Torches |
11.26.06 - 12:39 am | #
Flory--no fluffy angora?
The horror!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
No animal products of any kind. Except worms. I can wear their spit.
flory, keeper of the list |
11.26.06 - 12:40 am | #
That was funny!
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 12:41 am | #
for flory it would have been this interesting pattern I have which makes the flowers come out three-dimensional and it would be fun to merge that with intarsia and so it goes.
Echidne of the snakes
*sigh*
What might have been......
flory, keeper of the list |
11.26.06 - 12:41 am | #
4Legs--a la mode?
And how about some vanilla ice cream for Mr. Plushy, because vanilla ice cream is delicious!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 12:42 am | #
Harvey Kurtzman was a fucking genius.
The Comics Journal just put out one of their "Comics Journal Library" coffee table books out on him.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 12:43 am | #
"Captain Marbles has been destroyed by the only force as strong as he...he!"
I know. I'm an awful tease. But I could design it for you and then you could knit it yourself.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 12:43 am | #
No animal products of any kind. Except worms. I can wear their spit.
flory, keeper of the list
Were you out frolicking this evening?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 12:37 am | #
Started early at brunch, or as we called it ESCHACON III: THE DESTRUCTION OF JARED SYN. Your name came up over bagels and cookies with some of the gang.
Then went downtown to quaff elitist chardonnay. A fun day, all in all.
How was yours?
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 12:44 am | #
Steve Simels--I have yearned for you tragically.
And how is Mother Simels? Did she make you a delicious dinner?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 12:44 am | #
Breaking News.....
Hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans are spontaneously organizing against the repressive socialist government of Hugo Chavez.
gwwyne |
11.26.06 - 12:45 am | #
Glad to hear it, Sally.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 12:45 am | #
Stolen from Kos
Hannah Allam and Mohamed al Dulaimy
McClatchy Newspapers
"Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms."
This is as ominous a development as anything I recall since the invasion of Iraq. Losing control of the airwaves is a standard indicator that a government has completely lost control of the country.
This is one way out, I suppose.
shawk |
11.26.06 - 12:46 am | #
Shoelimpy--lots of things. If only you could read...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 12:46 am | #
Started early at brunch, or as we called it ESCHACON III: THE DESTRUCTION OF JARED SYN. Your name came up over bagels and cookies with some of the gang.
It did?
Not in vain, I hope.
My evening has been fine. I've been watching old movies. Mr. Plushy is stoned.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 12:47 am | #
late evening folks
Sallyh...what's the difference between a french apple pie and a garden variety one?
::matthew |
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11.26.06 - 12:47 am | #
Losing control of the airwaves is a standard indicator that a government has completely lost control of the country.
Remember when Lyndon Johnson said that when he lost Cronkite that he lost the war?
Almost as good as "Superduperman" was the Goodman Beaver story "Goodman Meets S*perm*n" where Supes is an embittered hermit tired of people trying to get him to save the world. I esp. like it when Clark Kent opens a bottle of beer by popping the cap in his ear...
uh, French vanilla?
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11.26.06 - 12:51 am | #
"We'll obviously try to control them as much as we can, but when they (kill) more than 150 people in bombings, they have the right to speak," said Bassam al Husseini, one of Maliki's top advisers. "What are we going to do? We can't stop this. It's too hot right now."
Maliki ain't even tryin anymore. He's gathering his passport and sending his money to Swiss bank accounts right now.
Because you said so, I will.
Hugs.
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11.26.06 - 12:53 am | #
Well, same with the Goodman Beaver piece, done by the great Will Elder, who really pioneered that style - he and Kurtzman called them "eye pops"
A favorite of mine from the Mad comic book is "Starchie", also drawn by Elder.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 12:53 am | #
Well, Maliki just lost the entire station.
He never had the whole nation, but now he's lost what little part he did have.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Maliki is just a puppet and inserted as he was into the scene, I doubt he could control anything. I think he's carefully timing his getaway and the amount of loot he can stash somewhere safe....
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 12:53 am | #
I don't think I want a sweater made of celery. thanks all the same.
Mom:
I could, in fact, knit your sweater. It would be finished around the next millenium....
flory, keeper of the list |
11.26.06 - 12:54 am | #
Maliki ain't even tryin anymore. He's gathering his passport and sending his money to Swiss bank accounts right now.
Black Adam | 11.26.06 - 12:52 am | #
Maliki is just a puppet and inserted as he was into the scene, I doubt he could control anything. I think he's carefully timing his getaway and the amount of loot he can stash somewhere safe....
ellroon, hair afire | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 12:53 am | #
Looks like we have a couple of people who got their liberal talking points together this even. Well done!
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 12:54 am | #
Speaking of Harvey Kurtzman and Wally Wood -- I think their supreme moment -- even better than Superduperman VS Capt Marbles -- was the Flash Gordon parody.
"Hey kid -- your shoelace is untied."
With art that looked just like Alex Raymond but almost better.
You look at those early Mad things and they just blow the stereotype of the 50s -- "the long sleep of the Eisenhower years" -- into little orzo sized bits.
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 12:55 am | #
I owe Black Adam a Coke.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 12:55 am | #
Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms."
This is as ominous a development as anything I recall since the invasion of Iraq. Losing control of the airwaves is a standard indicator that a government has completely lost control of the country.
The government is Shiite dominated and Sadr is a Shiite. It was an illusion that they could ever control him. If we left right now, the Sunni's would mop up the Shiite militias and take out the ha ha 'democratically' elected government. The Sunnis think the Shiite militias and the army is a bunch of punks anyways, and they are right. It is utterly fucking amazing that the idiots in the administration could not have foreseen this.
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11.26.06 - 12:56 am | #
Maliki is just a puppet and inserted as he was into the scene, I doubt he could control anything.
When you choose people who have been out of the country for 23 years to be Prime Minister, it sort of puts a crimp on your effectiveness.
You look at those early Mad things and they just blow the stereotype of the 50s -- "the long sleep of the Eisenhower years" -- into little orzo sized bits.
steve simels | 11.26.06 - 12:55 am | #
The great thing is that you can find the origins of the Mad style in "Vault of Horror", "Crypt of Terror", and all the great EC work.
'night, dears. May you all sleep well, sweet dreams, no bedbugs.
SD
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11.26.06 - 12:59 am | #
A favorite of mine from the Mad comic book is "Starchie", also drawn by Elder.
Another classic.
Speaking of Harvey Kurtzman and Wally Wood -- I think their supreme moment -- even better than Superduperman VS Capt Marbles -- was the Flash Gordon parody.
Their current circulation is a bit over ten percent of what it was in the early 1970's.
Richard
Mad is not the same, and comics sure aren't. They are 1/3 the size and have more ads than story line.
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 1:00 am | #
Mad is not the same, and comics sure aren't. They are 1/3 the size and have more ads than story line.
ellroon, hair afire | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 1:00 am | #
The great thing about Mad (until Gaines died) was that there were no ads. It's so odd to see Mad magazine with ads in it.
That is really fun! Thanks!
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 1:02 am | #
Steve Simels, so why did my name come up?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 1:02 am | #
Mad is not the same, and comics sure aren't.
In the day, a 'whatmeworry' was similar to a Friedman.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 1:02 am | #
Gaines had a pretty interesting life. A great book, long out of print, is "the Mad World of William M. Gaines", by Frank Jacobs.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 1:05 am | #
Holy crap! They even have Eric Stanton in here!
Usually, no one has heard of him because he did bondage work. However, the weird thing is that Steve Ditko, the super-objectivist, worked in the same design studio with Stanton. Some cognoscenti believed that Ditko penciled (or inked) some of Stanton's works. Stanton's early work looks suspiciously like Ditko's.
Sort of like finding out that William F. Buckley had been writing lesbian porn under a pseudonym.
Looks like we have a couple of people who got their liberal talking points together this even. Well done!
Shoelimpy™
I'm practically a newbie and I kicked your troll ass all over this site tonight. You should be ashamed of yourself. Pussy.
Gomez |
11.26.06 - 1:05 am | #
Sort of like finding out that William F. Buckley had been writing lesbian porn under a pseudonym.
Black Adam
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 1:06 am | #
I hate racist liberals
Shoelimpy™ | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 12:44 am | #
See -- now you're not evening trying.
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 1:06 am | #
Black Adam & Elroon --
Glad you like Lambiek.net It's an evolving website.
zut |
11.26.06 - 1:08 am | #
Simels--here, I throw myself at your feet, and all you want is for the troll to blow you
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 1:08 am | #
I always loved Spy v. Spy.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 1:09 am | #
Can you link to where you kicked Shoe's ass please, Gomez??
annieangel |
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11.26.06 - 1:09 am | #
What am I trying to do, Steve?
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:10 am | #
I'm practically a newbie and I kicked your troll ass all over this site tonight. You should be ashamed of yourself. Pussy.
Gomez | 11.26.06 - 1:05 am | #
Do you even know Orwell's first name?
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:10 am | #
The odd thing is that Spy. v. Spy is that its creator, Antonio Prohias, meant it to be an anti-Castro cartoon. Now, it's used to sell Mountain Dew.
Black Adam | 11.26.06 - 1:10 am | #
And you love Castro now too, dontcha blacky?
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:12 am | #
Can you link to where you kicked Shoe's ass please, Gomez??
annieangel
It is right above where his neck is stuck.
Gomez |
11.26.06 - 1:12 am | #
I'm practically a newbie and I kicked your troll ass all over this site tonight. You should be ashamed of yourself. Pussy.
Gomez | 11.26.06 - 1:05 am | #
Gomez, you don't know a thing about 1984, and you proved that quite well this evening. You have heard of a thing called reality, right?
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:14 am | #
I can see why some people just totally refuse to interact with trolls.
ellroon, hair afire | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 1:14 am | #
Trolls want attention above all else, even negative attention if they can get no other.
Ignore them, and they fade away like mice in a miser's kitchen.
Dear god! So lonely he creates a sock puppet female he can have conversations with?
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 1:18 am | #
Gomez, you don't know a thing about 1984, and you proved that quite well this evening. You have heard of a thing called reality, right?
Shoelimpy™
You've already made an ass out of yourself tonight. Call it a night before it gets worse.
BTW, your mommy asked me to tell you to take out the trash before you go to beddy bye.
Gomez |
11.26.06 - 1:18 am | #
Zut, you are searching for imaginary demons. Achilles=Achilles
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 1:18 am | #
Do you even know Orwell's first name?
Shoelimpy™
Shoe his name was Blair not Orwell
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 1:19 am | #
Some interesting scans...
That is so Ditko. The hands, not so much, but everything else -- yes.
zut |
11.26.06 - 1:19 am | #
Gomez, you aren't even old enough to know what your mama told me last night.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:20 am | #
Trollz are like the stupid guy from the office who gets drunk and makes a fool out of himself and thinks he was brilliant at the party.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 1:20 am | #
Gomez keeps talking yet he says nothing. I guess it's because he's totally clueless and is just looking for Shoe's attention.
You're gonna make Ntodd jealous, Gomez. I'd back off!
annieangel |
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11.26.06 - 1:20 am | #
Thank you, Jesus, for dying upon the cross for our sins, so that we might not perish from the chains of our own wrongdoing but might instead living peacefully in the warmth of your loving embrace
posted by Shoelimpy™ @ 9:50 PM 1 comments
Once again motherfucker, I'll be happy to visit upon you the true Gospel of the Lord.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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11.26.06 - 1:22 am | #
you dudes rock
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 1:23 am | #
I'm sure that last post made sense to you, James.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:23 am | #
What am I trying to do, Steve?
Shoelimpy™ | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 1:10 am | #
Pretend you're a decent human being with genuine feelings for other people rather than the disingenuous amoral scumbag that you self-evidently are.
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 1:24 am | #
Can I get a Polonium 210?
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 1:24 am | #
Trollz are like the stupid guy from the office who gets drunk and makes a fool out of himself and thinks he was brilliant at the party.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 1:20 am | #
Nah, the stupid guy sobers up. Trolls are simply people who are desperate for any sort of attention.
They don't have much in the way of social skills, and feel too insecure to post in places where their contributions can be valued. Like I said, they value attention, any kind of attention at all, even insults or negative attention. After all, at least they're being noticed when they're being insulted.
Pouring insults on them just makes them feel better, so I don't mind if people play with trolls. At least both sides are getting something out of it. To really fuck with a troll's mind you shut him out completely, the way you'd shut out a two-year old throwing a tantrum to get what he wants.
many Conservatives just cannot bring themselves to support a party that wants to allow our country to be overrun by a neverending brown tide of dirty Mexicans.
Representative Tom Tacredo agrees.
"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that – it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going."
Tancredo lashed out at the White House's lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy.
"I know this is dramatic – or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic – but I'm telling you, that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American Union, it's not something that just is written about by right-wing fringe kooks. It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it. ...
This cannot be allowed to continue. While we need to fight against terrorism, and terrorism is certainly a horrible threat to the United States of America, the real threat is and always has been Mexico. Mexicans are upset that they lost the Mexican-American War and they are trying to get their territory back. I mean, they practically have it back already, they are quickly becoming the majority population in the areas taken by the Gadsden Purchase. And what happens when they are the majority, overwhelmingly the majority?
Bad days for America.
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Racist motherfucker.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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11.26.06 - 1:25 am | #
I've been a fan of Ditko's artwork since I was 6 years old, reading reprints of his Spider-Man, Doctor Strange and pre-Marvel sci-fi work.
Fantagraphics put out two volumes reprinting some of his rational objectivist comics. That stuff, with perhaps the exception of the early Mister A stories, was virtually unreadable.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 1:25 am | #
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:26 am | #
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:26 am | #
Pretend you're a decent human being with genuine feelings for other people rather than the disingenuous amoral scumbag that you self-evidently are.
That's pretty much impossible.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 1:26 am | #
many Conservatives just cannot bring themselves to support a party that wants to allow our country to be overrun by a neverending brown tide of dirty Mexicans.
Racist motherfucker
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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11.26.06 - 1:26 am | #
Share my pre-diarrhea dread as you read this:
Al-Sadr loyalists take over Iraqi television station
Feel that warm bubbling sensation down deep in your tummy. Good night, fellow patriots.
Monica_A: Smart Ass Emeritus |
11.26.06 - 1:26 am | #
Why is Shoe the bad guy? He hasn't called one of you assholes a bad name and it's like you are getting off on flaming him just because he's smarter than you!
annieangel |
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11.26.06 - 1:27 am | #
Fantagraphics put out two volumes reprinting some of his rational objectivist comics. That stuff, with perhaps the exception of the early Mister A stories, was virtually unreadable.
Ditko's art has only very recently started to decline. It's becoming simpler. I'm starting to wonder if he's getting on in years.
I've been a fan of Ditko's artwork since I was 6 years old, reading reprints of his Spider-Man, Doctor Strange and pre-Marvel sci-fi work.
Fantagraphics put out two volumes reprinting some of his rational objectivist comics. That stuff, with perhaps the exception of the early Mister A stories, was virtually unreadable.
Richard
Unreadable as badly copied? Or too small? Or just badly done all together?
ellroon, hair afire |
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11.26.06 - 1:28 am | #
To really fuck with a troll's mind you shut him out completely, the way you'd shut out a two-year old throwing a tantrum to get what he wants.
Richard = HUGE troll
annieangel |
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11.26.06 - 1:28 am | #
To really fuck with a troll's mind you shut him out completely, the way you'd shut out a two-year old throwing a tantrum to get what he wants.
Right on. The other night I referred to one of the late night threads as a troll petting zoo. (I wish I could take credit for that phrase, but I can't.)
I say let them lurk and throw shit the way monkeys do, but ignore them otherwise. Occasionally I forget my own advice, but I'm getting better.
zut |
11.26.06 - 1:29 am | #
Al-Sadr loyalists take over Iraqi television station.
ABC has already picked up three sitcoms from them to put on the mid-season schedule.
Why is Shoe the bad guy? He hasn't called one of you assholes a bad name and it's like you are getting off on flaming him just because he's smarter than you!
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My own animostiy? You're a cunting anti-Christ. An apostate. Hellbound whore. Probably a paperbagger too.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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11.26.06 - 1:29 am | #
I love you limpy!
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 1:30 am | #
Al-Sadr loyalists take over Iraqi television station
Rwanda redux. And there is nothing I can do now. Fuck it to the seventh hell. I marched and I wrote and I wrote and I marched. Which is shit all.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 1:31 am | #
We don't have anything to worry about from Sadr. According to JeffCO, he is the best friend we have over there and isn't a serious threat to Iraq at all. Take a chill pill, sit back and relax, there ain't nothing to worry about.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:32 am | #
Unreadable as badly copied? Or too small? Or just badly done all together?
Nice reproduction, nice art, but written with the subtlety of a sledge hammer. Ditko beats you over the head with his philosophy.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 1:32 am | #
My comment above reads like I could have done something about the horrors. Didn't mean it that way, but I have a horrible gnawing guilt that we could have done more, somehow.
Echidne of the snakes |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:32 am | #
WHAT??? Since when is Sadr the bad guy? I've been saying that FOREVER and you all tell me that he's a fucking saint!
annieangel |
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11.26.06 - 1:33 am | #
Oh Richard! That is so funny! My daughter and I were laughing so hard... time for a nap, I'd say.
ellroon, hair afire |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:33 am | #
Rwanda redux. And there is nothing I can do now. Fuck it to the seventh hell.
I'm dreading what comes next. Dreading it.
They through kerosene on people and burned them alive the other day.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:33 am | #
I love you too, Spaghetti God.
Shoelimpy™ |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:34 am | #
I'm dreading what comes next. Dreading it.
They through kerosene on people and burned them alive the other day.
Yes, they did. And worse. It's too late now. The time to worry about all this was when happy-go-lucky idiot Bush was tripping off to war in some country (in imagination only) without bothering to read a single fucking history book about the area.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 1:35 am | #
Ditko's art has only very recently started to decline. It's becoming simpler. I'm starting to wonder if he's getting on in years.
From Wikipedia on Ditko:
Ditko graduated from Johnstown High School in 1945.
Yes, they did. And worse. It's too late now. The time to worry about all this was when happy-go-lucky idiot Bush was tripping off to war in some country (in imagination only) without bothering to read a single fucking history book about the area.
It's horrible. And frightening to see how quickly human beings can descend into chaos and barbarity.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:38 am | #
Have a nice night, Blacky.
Shoelimpy™ |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:38 am | #
Nice to mock you politely.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 1:39 am | #
Nice to mock you politely.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 1:39 am | #
Why is Shoe the bad guy? He hasn't called one of you assholes a bad name and it's like you are getting off on flaming him just because he's smarter than you!
annieangel
Why would anyone let a name bother them?
if I called you an asshole annie would you hate me?
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 1:42 am | #
It's horrible. And frightening to see how quickly human beings can descend into chaos and barbarity.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 1:38 am | #
Twice last week the Hezbollah and the old Christian militia had tire burning parties shouting slogans at the sky in Beirut. An old scene. Tentative jabs, feeling outs, etc. Bush and Zionists will have given us a second civil war before the year is out I fear.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
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11.26.06 - 1:42 am | #
I interviewed Denny Oneill -- Ditko's collaborator/editor on all sorts of things -- sometime in the early 70s and he told me that Ditko, as a person, was essentially Travis Bickle.
Lived in an unfurnished room in Times Square, haunted porno palaces, the whole deal.
Add to that the whole Ayn Rand libertarian thing -- "Objectivist Funnies", O'Neill described his work -- and you gotta figure Ditko is one weird guy, albeit a primitive genius.
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 1:42 am | #
Good night, fourlegs and Maxx. Good night, any other bats remaining.
Echidne of the snakes |
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11.26.06 - 1:43 am | #
Steve Simels--you've ignored me and thus, broken my heart tonight.
However, a dawn order of hot, fresh H&H bagels would make up for it
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 1:43 am | #
How is being a libertarian or a fan of Ayn Rand weird?
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:44 am | #
I could never hate you, Spaghettiface. I just don't understand why people act like 5 year olds instead of like adults and why everyone can't get along.
How is being a libertarian or a fan of Ayn Rand weird?
Shoelimpy™ | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 1:44 am | #
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Ha ha ha ha. Another tripwire to explode the myth of limpdick's 'Christian' pose.
James Jesus Rimbaud |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 1:47 am | #
Achilles the Psycho = Shoelimpy = annieangel.
zut
Duh. Atrios wants a dead blog, he's got one. RIP.
Lord Nelso |
11.26.06 - 1:47 am | #
Atrios wants turkey leftover recipes.
He demands it.
annieangel |
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11.26.06 - 1:49 am | #
What IS so funny about
Peace
Love
and Understanding?
Add to that the whole Ayn Rand libertarian thing -- "Objectivist Funnies", O'Neill described his work -- and you gotta figure Ditko is one weird guy, albeit a primitive genius.
He has refused to do any interviews or be photographed since the mid-1960's. There was a video put out about 15 years ago called "Masters of Comic Book Art" which featured on camera interviews with various artists and writers, except for Ditko. For his segment, he read an essay that he had written, while the camera panned over some of his artwork.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 1:49 am | #
Some say that appearing on camera captures your soul, sucking it into the camera. It's not weird, it is his belief system.
Shoelimpy™ |
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11.26.06 - 1:50 am | #
Sallyh:
I've been having keyboard problems, otherwise I would have responded to you earlier.
Bottom line -- my houseboy Kato is putting together a package of the most delectable bagels (of all sorts) and fixins you'll ever have.
It's being teleported as we speak.
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 1:50 am | #
an Associated Press analysis suggests that big oil companies have been crimping supplies in subtler ways across the country for years. And tighter supplies tend to drive up prices.
The analysis, based on data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration, indicates that the industry slacked off supplying oil and gasoline during the prolonged price boom between early 1999 and last summer, when prices began to fall.
Surprise, surprise. Now even AP is saying it.
JT |
11.26.06 - 1:52 am | #
JT - yes, and it's just nutty conspiracy theory to note the precipitous price drop running up to the elections. All just a big coinkidink.
Jennifer |
11.26.06 - 1:55 am | #
Surprise, surprise. Now even AP is saying it.
Business in America as usual: fire more workers, produce less product, charge more for it, CEOs and boards make bigger bucks, and consumers lose.
zut |
11.26.06 - 1:56 am | #
Steve Simels--your shiksa goddess forgives you. (Smooch)
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.26.06 - 1:58 am | #
I was not aware that Mickey D's gave people so much time off. And yet this is how unfunny parody troll spends his time. Others are here chatting with friends - he's here because he can't control his sick urges. It's sad, really.
JeffCO |
11.26.06 - 2:00 am | #
JT - yes, and it's just nutty conspiracy theory to note the precipitous price drop running up to the elections. All just a big coinkidink.
Jennifer
Actually Goldman Sachs dumped billions in oil futures which was bought up by the government =)
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 2:02 am | #
JT - yes, and it's just nutty conspiracy theory to note the precipitous price drop running up to the elections. All just a big coinkidink.
Jennifer
Business in America as usual: fire more workers, produce less product, charge more for it, CEOs and boards make bigger bucks, and consumers lose.
zut
And in the meantime, the drug companies are gearing up to fend off any attempt to "allow" the Medicare to negotiate for lower prices. That should be fun to watch. A reprise of Harry and Louise perhaps.
JT |
11.26.06 - 2:03 am | #
1 19lb. Free Range Turkey.
1 Cauldron of boiling lard.
5 tablespoons of plankton.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 2:04 am | #
And on that note...
off to bed.
I love you all more than food (hi, sallyh!) and I hope to talk to you on the morrow!
steve simels |
11.26.06 - 2:04 am | #
PTT is the plunge protection team
Executive Order 12631 signed by Ronald Reagan
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 2:05 am | #
Louise died after an extended illness for which she and Harry went bankrupt trying to pay her medical bills. He lives in a tiny room in a bad neighborhood and eats cat food 3x a week to survive on his pension, or what's left of it after his corporate bosses dissipated the equity.
JeffCO |
11.26.06 - 2:06 am | #
Surprise, surprise. Now even AP is saying it.
Of course, they've also been letting their facilities fall into disrepair, while raking in their staggering profits. That BP pipeline disaster in Alaska this past summer was an obscenity.
Richard |
11.26.06 - 2:08 am | #
And in the meantime, the drug companies are gearing up to fend off any attempt to "allow" the Medicare to negotiate for lower prices.
"Business in America as usual: fire more workers, produce less product, charge more for it, CEOs and boards make bigger bucks, and consumers lose."
I am really coming to the belief it is not simply profit motive. I always harp on the fact that if people had a guarantee of basic health care in some form, it would open up the flood gates to innovation, entrepreneurship and other benefits to the country. Lately I am of the mind that some of the covetousness shown by the corps is to prevent the average worker having a level playing field. Hold the health card over their head and they stay quiet and in place. Which is odd since the corps all cry about the cost of health care.
EkCenTriK |
11.26.06 - 2:10 am | #
1 19lb. Free Range Turkey.
1 Cauldron of boiling lard.
5 tablespoons of plankton.
Its hard to find Planckton with 33 zeros
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 2:11 am | #
If someone hits you, hitem back, If they are smaller laugh at them.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 2:15 am | #
Lately I am of the mind that some of the covetousness shown by the corps is to prevent the average worker having a level playing field.
Do you mean that 231 years after the American Revolution, we're still dealing with people who see themselves as royalty and the rest of us as serfs?
zut |
11.26.06 - 2:18 am | #
Just representin the American Migrant Contingent.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 2:19 am | #
"Do you mean that 231 years after the American Revolution, we're still dealing with people who see themselves as royalty and the rest of us as serfs?"
Lately more so.
EkCenTriK |
11.26.06 - 2:23 am | #
"Business in America as usual: fire more workers, produce less product, charge more for it, CEOs and boards make bigger bucks, and consumers lose."
Capitalism, in the end, is self defeating.
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 2:25 am | #
You will now pay more taxes. A consumption tax is in order for the most obese nation ever.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 2:26 am | #
Lately more so.
Well, aren't they going to be surprised when the Chinese wind up running everything and they wind up working in coal mines.
Hey, I can fantasize, can't I?
zut |
11.26.06 - 2:27 am | #
You will now pay more taxes. A consumption tax is in order for the most obese nation ever.
money is tied only to a printing press
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 2:28 am | #
Hey, I can fantasize, can't I?
zut
Yes your awake
The Spaghetti God |
11.26.06 - 2:30 am | #
Jesus, people, you're talking to a fucking troll. Get a life.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 2:40 am | #
Really late night owls.
Shoelimpy™ |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 2:42 am | #
Jesus, people, you're talking to a fucking troll. Get a life.
Maybe there's only one person here...
Bezopasnosti |
11.26.06 - 2:48 am | #
Holy nads, my lifemate just sucked my tounge.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 2:48 am | #
Do you mean that 231 years after the American Revolution, we're still dealing with people who see themselves as royalty and the rest of us as serfs?
zut
Well, we're certainly still dealing with people who see others as royalty.
Max Planck |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:00 am | #
The report, obtained by The New York Times, estimates that groups responsible for many of the insurgent and terrorist attacks are raising $70 million to $200 million a year from illegal activities.
Pussies. Halliburton's making like $50 billion a year from illegal activities.
Dr. Wu |
11.26.06 - 3:00 am | #
Dr. Wu needs too take a Pooh
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 3:05 am | #
Well, we're certainly still dealing with people who see others as royalty.
And people who see themselves as royalty.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:06 am | #
Unable to sleep. Hello, dears. Anyone here?
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:07 am | #
ah, 4LG. Halloo. Plushy still stoned?
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:08 am | #
Unable to sleep. Hello, dears. Anyone here?
I'm here.
I'm watching a documentary about the making of Star Wars.
They're talking about the opening week of the film. I remember not hearing any hype about the film at all. I did however, see a trailer for the film at the theatre and thought, "wow, that looks fucking cool"
All my friends thought the same thing. We were kind of surprised to show up at the theatre on opening day and find out everyone in the world thought the same thing.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 3:10 am | #
Unable to sleep. Hello, dears. Anyone here?
A lot of that going around. Just tobes in his many manifestations.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 3:10 am | #
Is Manzanilla a dry sherry?
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 3:10 am | #
How is being a libertarian or a fan of Ayn Rand weird?
Now that's comedy.
animus |
11.26.06 - 3:11 am | #
ah, 4LG. Halloo. Plushy still stoned?
Yeah.
He's been sleeping in the closet all night. I hate when he does that.
Makes me worry. I'm just hoping he makes it to Christmas.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:11 am | #
Oh, speak of the devil.
Someone plushy just woke up. He'd like to go outside.
Not at this hour.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:13 am | #
Hegemony of Survival.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 3:14 am | #
Makes me worry. I'm just hoping he makes it to Christmas.
Sam is in the chronic stages of FIV. FWIW, you're not alone in your grief, we really love our boy.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 3:15 am | #
I know where Trinary Suka lives. I'm going to go pay him a visit.
cranberry residue |
11.26.06 - 3:16 am | #
Sam is in the chronic stages of FIV. FWIW, you're not alone in your grief, we really love our boy.
Thanks. I'm sorry to hear about Sam.
Maxx is actually pretty healthy except for the cancer (I know that sounds wierd).
I just don't want him to suffer.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:17 am | #
I think he needs him a late night snacky-snack.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:19 am | #
Thanks. Like the vet said, it's all about quality of life. He's still got the biggest, brightest eyes.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 3:23 am | #
Thanks. Like the vet said, it's all about quality of life. He's still got the biggest, brightest eyes.
He's still enjoying being a kitty.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:25 am | #
Morning DWD. Didn't you just go to bed?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:27 am | #
4LG, Lord Nelson, my heart hurts for you and your kitties. When Mr Deere and I lost our beloved krittikas, we broke down and wept like the world had ended - and, of course, part of it had, for us. She was a member of our family and we loved her dearly. There is never a replacement - never. And anyone who thinks so hasn't one fucking clue.
Anyway - I do understand how you are feeling. I know you are doing your very best to give your kits all the love and care you have to give. And that is not insubstantial.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:28 am | #
A & E asks, "what if gays went on strike?"
We find out December 11th.
I shudder to think.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 3:28 am | #
I know you are doing your very best to give your kits all the love and care you have to give. And that is not insubstantial.
He knows he's cherished. I'll do everything I can for him.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:30 am | #
A & E asks, "what if gays went on strike?"
...um...wha.....
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:30 am | #
A & E asks, "what if gays went on strike?"
that'll drive bush to bomb iran.
jello |
11.26.06 - 3:34 am | #
He knows he's cherished. I'll do everything I can for him.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
YES. How lucky you both are, to have one another. Please know this.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 3:35 am | #
4lg,
Three hours ago I went to bed, that is about the duration of the pain medicine. Then I wake and take some more.
Fun, eh?
And I am so sorry to hear of your cat's suffering: it is even harder with animals because they don't understand. I have been there and it is not pleasant. Best wishes.
DWD |
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11.26.06 - 3:39 am | #
"By all accounts, Rove has been even more upset by Moore and Slater's latest effort, The Architect: Karl Rove and the Master Plan for Absolute Power, published this fall, and he evinces mock horror at the ludicrous subtitle, which he quotes in the portentous tones of old newsreel footage. In the book, the authors cite friends of Louis Rove's as saying that Louis was gay and lived out his days among openly gay friends in Palm Springs, where Karl would visit him. The two did indeed become close late in the elder Rove's life, often vacationing together and once making a pilgrimage to Norway, the ancestral Rove home. Rove has told people that he does not know whether his father was gay."
Poor little kitty, what's it's name? Ole Yeller?
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 3:43 am | #
And I am so sorry to hear of your cat's suffering: it is even harder with animals because they don't understand. I have been there and it is not pleasant. Best wishes.
Thanks. I'm sorry about your suffering as well.
I was serious when I suggested pot the other night. A lot of cancer patients use it.
There's got to be something someone can do for you.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 3:44 am | #
it is even harder with animals because they don't understand.
They know and experience pain, but they are incredibly stoic. What else is there for them to do? They don't automatically have access to pain pills or any semblance of relief. In the wild, they simply have to keep going to survive another day. They put us humans (as we live now) to shame, actually.
SD
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 3:44 am | #
A & E asks, "what if gays went on strike?"
that'll drive bush to bomb iran.
Of course!!
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:45 am | #
And all venison lovers thank Sarah the Deer.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 3:46 am | #
He's still enjoying being a kitty.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
I still grieve for cats I lost 30 years ago.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 3:46 am | #
Cats always win.
Achilles the Psycho |
11.26.06 - 3:48 am | #
set your recorders on stun. don't miss tomorrow brooklyn born rashid khalidi on cspan2. 1:39 pm eastern. it's a shame he he isn't heard from more.
jello |
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11.26.06 - 3:49 am | #
In the wild, they simply have to keep going to survive another day.
In the wild they hide pain so they won't appear weak.
It makes it hard to tell when they're actually hurting. I think I can tell though.
I read a horrible thing on the intertubes the other night while researching his cancer.
This woman didn't want to accept that her cat was going to die from squamous cell, so she decided to treat him with herbs and vitamins.
Which is fine, but she never took him back to the vet (because the vet had suggested putting him down) so for 8 months the poor cat lingered on with no pain medication.
I almost threw up.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 3:49 am | #
I still grieve for cats I lost 30 years ago.
It's hard to let them go.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:50 am | #
'Night, all.
zut
hey, don't leave without telling us what that is.
jello |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:50 am | #
Poor little kitty, what's it's name? Ole Yeller?
Achilles the Psycho | 11.26.06 - 3:43 am | #
Who the fuck are you, miscreant? Underneath what foul deposit do you crawl?
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:51 am | #
Those are teeny monkeys.
I forget which kind.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:52 am | #
I almost threw up.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
what can I say - yes. Me, too. Stupid, with good intentions. Fuck, fuck, fuck.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 3:52 am | #
Who the fuck are you, miscreant?
Ignore, Sarah, tobes lives for recognition.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 3:53 am | #
Who the fuck are you, miscreant?
Either Toby or limpdicky.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 3:53 am | #
what can I say - yes. Me, too. Stupid, with good intentions. Fuck, fuck, fuck.
Pain control was the first thing Maxx's vets talked about.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 3:54 am | #
hey, don't leave without telling us what that is.
jello
I try to create a fantasy zone, I suppose. In my yard, I feed birds, squirrels. I chase outdoor cats away, those who are predators. I try to imitate their language. Crows even come within touching distance, not that I would. I try to be as respectful and as admiring as I can.
They give me so much pleasure, listening to them talk and sing, watching them as they go about their business. All I can do is to offer a little ease. Water and food when there is little of either, and a non-threatening environ.
Yeah, it's an exception, but so fucking what.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 3:56 am | #
Looks like he's finally tweaked out.
Was it you with the good friend recently diagnosed with MND?
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 4:02 am | #
Lord Nelson, it's me w/the friend of 40 yrs recently dx w/ALS - Lou Gehrig's Disease. I go to Alburqyerque to visit him this coming Friday.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 4:04 am | #
I still love the score to Star Wars.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 4:04 am | #
i thought it was a baby chewbacca.
jello
Did you ever read Little Fuzzy
by H. Beam Piper?
Hey -- I was going to bed.
zut |
11.26.06 - 4:05 am | #
I like all the little critters of the world.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
me, too, dear. Bunches and lots. They warm my heart.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 4:05 am | #
Lord Nelson, it's me w/the friend of 40 yrs recently dx w/ALS
Are they sure of the diagnosis? Has he had an EMG? Has he confided his symptoms? Sometimes they're wrong.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 4:08 am | #
Well, I'm out.
Sleep well everyone.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |
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11.26.06 - 4:09 am | #
Sleep well everyone.
Chin schritches to Maxx.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 4:11 am | #
Sleep well, 4LG. Sweet dreams.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 4:12 am | #
No, it was my terrible usage...
the Vanity Fair piece on Rove, about his gaybashing conflicts within his personal life. He stabbed the Caesar's back with regards to legacy.
He's not really tortured about if his father was gay. He knows so, I think his campaign tricks were in place to pre-empt personal scandals. Also to act out sociopathic revenge upon the contraints of the Texass and Florida cultures he and pops shared friendship in.
Except for the fact Rove never had real friends.
Mr.Murder |
11.26.06 - 4:12 am | #
Lord Nelson, chin skritches to you, as well To us all, actually. We'd be the better for it!
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 4:13 am | #
Are they sure of the diagnosis? Has he had an EMG? Has he confided his symptoms? Sometimes they're wrong.
Lord Nelson
They seem to be. UNM has one of the exceptional clinics that are recommended for second opinions for ALS. He already has the slurred speech and diff swallowing.
Sarah Deere |
Homepage |
11.26.06 - 4:14 am | #
A friend of mine's mother had a marmoset pet. Two javas as well.
And some other variety at one time.
Mr.Murder |
11.26.06 - 4:17 am | #
"It's very clear that the relationship between father and son was somehow made good later," Slater told me. But he added, "Your father is gay, and you have some people close to you who have an understanding of gay marriage, homosexuality, that is sophisticated, and yet at the same time you spend your political life using homosexuality as a wedge issue to elect people? And Karl has done that all his life."
Mr.Murder |
11.26.06 - 4:18 am | #
"It's very clear that the relationship between father and son was somehow made good later," Slater told me. But he added, "Your father is gay, and you have some people close to you who have an understanding of gay marriage, homosexuality, that is sophisticated, and yet at the same time you spend your political life using homosexuality as a wedge issue to elect people? And Karl has done that all his life."
Mr.Murder |
11.26.06 - 4:18 am | #
And Karl has done that all his life."
Mr.Murder |
And Karl is one sick, fucked-up puppy, and a mean, amoral mother-fucker, to boot.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 4:21 am | #
He already has the slurred speech and diff swallowing.
Sarah, I'm so sorry. Be with him.
Lord Nelson |
11.26.06 - 4:22 am | #
Lord Nelson, I am going to be. The hard part....how do I deal w/someone I love so much, knowing he is dying, and he knows it, too. Do I still talk about my hangnails? WTF. You know? I just don't know what to do. Makes me think I am so fucking shallow.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 4:45 am | #
I worry I will not be what I need to be.
Sarah Deere |
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11.26.06 - 4:46 am | #
I worry I will not be what I need to be.
Like I said the other night, he'll tell you what to be. Bulbar onset sucks, he doesn't have much time. My prayers are with him, and you.
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11.26.06 - 4:51 am | #
Lord Nelson - thank you so very much, from the bottom of my heart.
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11.26.06 - 4:58 am | #
morning, all.
That's rough, SarahD. Having just returned from visiting with my 8-yr-old grandson who suffers from juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, and tries to hide it when he's hurting so he won't have to be brought in and his activities toned down, we who are physically unlimited don't have a clue what that's all like.
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11.26.06 - 5:36 am | #
Hi, DWD, I took a look at Kos and The Beginning of the End is a pretty good summation/conclusion about what's happening. Meanwhile on the home front; 'Given that economists have continued to cite the importance of housing market gains to national expansion, the morning’s result bodes poorly for broader outlook on the US economy.' re the dollar's 9-year low which everyone seems to be ignoring, but the potential for a dollar dump by the Chinese is looming.
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11.26.06 - 5:49 am | #
but the potential for a dollar dump by the Chinese is looming.
morning Ruth,
if the Chinese switched to the Euro, which has been gaining ground on dollar, all hell would break loose...
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11.26.06 - 5:56 am | #
Is it morning?
Barndog, now heavily medicated |
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11.26.06 - 5:58 am | #
If it isn't morning where you're at, cook some eggs and imagine it is morning.
Mr.Murder |
11.26.06 - 6:02 am | #
Can I have some bacon and hash browns with my eggs?
Sourdough toast with cherry jam?
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11.26.06 - 6:07 am | #
the contract China has with Iran for oil over a 10 year period for is it $40Bil? also indicates they're not waiting in the shadows for US permission to do their Thing.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 6:08 am | #
BD, have some onions and cheese with that. I'm doing that all but the toast and jam.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 6:09 am | #
Ruth, as a historical follow up on the pound sterling, that was the international pegged currency, it's interesting how it was replaced by the dollar....
..Prior to World War I, the United Kingdom had one of the world's strongest economies, holding 40% of the world's overseas investments. However, by the end of the war the country owed £850 million, mostly to the United States, with interest costing the country some 40% of all government spending.
..notice how our economy resembles the problems the UK had, prior to it's demise...
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11.26.06 - 6:10 am | #
Glad theres no turkey left.
I grew feathers and started gobbling overnight.
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11.26.06 - 6:11 am | #
good observations, mr. murder. And I recommend for you the WaPo Weapon of Mass Destruction; 'the creation of the Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947 (AK-47) , approved for production that year. It combined the best characteristics of a submachine gun (light weight and durability) and a machine gun (killing power). By the end of 1949, arms plants had turned out about 80,000 AKs.
Although the AK came too late to see action in World War II, the Soviets knew their assault rifle could become the most important weapon of the modern era, and they worked hard to keep it hidden from the West. Soviet soldiers carried their AKs in special pouches that disguised their shape; they picked up spent cartridges to keep the newly sized ammunition a secret.'
A good job of letting us civilians know what's going on in the ME urban warfare scene.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 6:17 am | #
'..notice how our economy resembles the problems the UK had, prior to it's demise...
Animal, Bush roadkill '
and note too that it was a war that ended its primacy. And theirs wasn't self-inflicted.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 6:20 am | #
Diane hits on what I found puzzling about Borat, in Krauthammer's treatment, over at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 6:28 am | #
So, what'd we do here?
Hit the morning lull?
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11.26.06 - 6:40 am | #
hi again, BD, they're all out there reading the good stuff we referenced here, while on Chris Matthews I'm hearing that Edwards has been at Kos, blogging. good move.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 6:44 am | #
Sheesh.
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11.26.06 - 7:05 am | #
Morning, Moonbats! I slept all night w/o coughing! I feel great!
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11.26.06 - 7:08 am | #
Okay, for the Sunday quote of the day;
"Anything that we scientists can do to weaken the hold of religion should be done and may in the end be our greatest contribution to civilization." from Stphen Weinberg, UT nobel laureate physicist, from the Dallas Morning News.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 7:08 am | #
Coughing? You have that nasty dry winter cough too?
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11.26.06 - 7:10 am | #
"Anything that we scientists can do to weaken the hold of religion should be done and may in the end be our greatest contribution to civilization." from Stphen Weinberg, UT nobel laureate physicist, from the Dallas Morning News.
Ruth, revolted
wow. wanna bet he's not long for univ of texas after this quote gets picked up.
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11.26.06 - 7:12 am | #
Surprized he isn't fired yet.
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11.26.06 - 7:15 am | #
Betcha he's got tenure. He's got a Nobel, they like those things at UT, which also has a pretty good library that has lots of dirt on the Bushes.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 7:20 am | #
There seems to be a nasty cold going around with a dry cough that seems to last for weeks after the cold has departed.
ql in ny |
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11.26.06 - 7:22 am | #
I should count my blessings I suppose. With the rheumatoid, I don't really get many of the 'going around' sort of illnesses. My autoimmune system, even though brought down by medication, is still pretty much spiked all the time - in constant battle with disease that doesn't exist.
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11.26.06 - 7:27 am | #
I'd like to remind everyone that they are still pretty much just fighting each other in Iraq. When it is turned on Americans, it won't be a pretty sight.
Of course the neocons are now blaming w for this mess. How could they sleep at night if they thought they were responsible for what is truly looking like a holocaust.
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11.26.06 - 7:30 am | #
Hoping that skipping my flu shot this year will work out. Last year, my flu shot knocked me over for over a month.
and from my little trip to MO:
'In Missouri, I was particularly impressed by the billboards featuring fields of corn, with the motto "These Are Missouri Oilfields", with a farmer standing in front of the waving corn. It's a concept that has a great deal of resonance for the American tradition of farming. It's also a concept that offers a whole new view of the sources of conflict in the Middle East. We can outgrow our fixation on other countries' treasures. Literally, we can outgrow it.'
btw - Had brunch yesterday with res, Molly & Thers and their 1,000 offspring, Simels, Gummo & Mrs. Gummo, Watertiger, and the Kenosha Kid.
What a great group of people. Thank you res for arranging it.
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11.26.06 - 7:32 am | #
btw - Had brunch yesterday with res, Molly & Thers and their 1,000 offspring, Simels, Gummo & Mrs. Gummo, Watertiger, and the Kenosha Kid.
What a great group of people. Thank you res for arranging it.
ql in ny |
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11.26.06 - 7:32 am | #
ql; 'Of course the neocons are now blaming w for this mess. '
Every movement needs a strawman, and theirs was nothing but, from the beginning. A failed businessman who was set up in the failed businesses, what a Natural.
and ethanol plants are non-polluting.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 7:36 am | #
If you have the heart for it, try reading the lead story on Kos.
Well, at least they had the decency not to broadcast Barry Manilow and Yanni.
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11.26.06 - 7:36 am | #
Yanni. AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Barndog, now heavily medicated |
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11.26.06 - 7:40 am | #
NYT is doing its stretching exercises for bending the truth in the 2008 campaign.
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel writes this:
"The United States must begin planning for a phased troop withdrawal from Iraq."
"The panel remains deeply divided over several critical issues, most notably whether to accede to calls by Democrats for a phased withdrawal of troops."
Yanni on world affairs at NYT? DEMOCRATS are all calling for phased troop withdrawals. Maybe all the top generals have registered as Dems then?
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 7:44 am | #
Betcha he's got tenure. He's got a Nobel, they like those things at UT
Weinberg is also 73 years old, and could simply retire anyway. Moreover, he's been saying stuff like that for years. Here's a famous quote from 1999:
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
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11.26.06 - 7:47 am | #
'But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
Richard'
And he has the administration loyally proving him right.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 7:48 am | #
Good morning, rational people.
And welcome back, Ruth. I really did miss you, and not just because of your fine work at our blog.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 7:51 am | #
'But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
That should be tattoed on Pope Ratzo's forehead. Also that Al Sadr schmuck who looks like Benny Hill.
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11.26.06 - 7:52 am | #
Good morning, all. I love 4 day weekends.
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11.26.06 - 7:54 am | #
Morning Diane.
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11.26.06 - 7:55 am | #
Thks, Diane, believe me, I missed you and all here. Nothing like a family set-to for Thanksgiving to make good conversation appreciated.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 7:56 am | #
Morning, all.
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11.26.06 - 7:58 am | #
Morning, DWD. How goes life on the West Coast?
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11.26.06 - 8:03 am | #
Ah...more of the regular early morning crew checking in.
I must confess, starting the morning with all of you really really does make a difference on how I approach theh day.
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11.26.06 - 8:04 am | #
Saudis help what?
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11.26.06 - 8:05 am | #
Weinberg is also 73 years old, and could simply retire anyway. Moreover, he's been saying stuff like that for years. Here's a famous quote from 1999:
I like this man more and more.
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11.26.06 - 8:06 am | #
If you're like most people, you'll be giving your credit cards a healthy workout over the next few weeks. So this is as good a time as any to consider a few harsh realities.
First off, the Center for American Progress, a liberal-minded think tank, has crunched data from the Federal Reserve and found that Americans for the first time owe more money than they make.
According to the center, average household debt levels topped average after-tax income by more than 29 percent as of this summer. Moreover, the average family is now spending 14.4 percent of its disposable income on debt repayments -- the largest share since the Fed began collecting such data in 1980.
"This is an unsustainable trend," said Christian Weller, senior economist at the center. "People simply can't borrow at the same rate they've borrowed in the past."
According to the Fed, total consumer credit debt, excluding mortgages, hit a record $2.4 trillion in September. Factoring in mortgages, outstanding household debt soars to about $12.3 trillion.
Average credit card interest rates were running about 13 percent last week. But you never know.
That's because credit cards are the only consumer product for which the terms of sale can change after you sign a contract. Virtually all card agreements include language stipulating that the card provider can change the terms of the deal, including interest rates, "at any time for any reason."
And as if that didn't seem sufficiently unfair for consumers, don't forget the universal default provision. This is an element of many card agreements that allows an issuer to jack up your rates if you miss a payment to another creditor -- even if you've never been tardy with payments to the issuer in question.
"I think even a lot of the credit card companies find this indefensible," said Linda Sherry, a spokeswoman for San Francisco's Consumer Action. "They just want to get more money out of you whenever they can."
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Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:06 am | #
Sunrise here. Yesterday watched sunrise driving toward Mexico, MO, over the bare fields and scattering of farmhouses.
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11.26.06 - 8:06 am | #
First off, the Center for American Progress, a liberal-minded think tank, has crunched data from the Federal Reserve and found that Americans for the first time owe more money than they make.
Guess you'll have to go through the link.
Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:08 am | #
Saudi Arabia. Right. The royal family that Al Qaeda hates even worse than they hate the US.
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11.26.06 - 8:10 am | #
Moe, my favorite business news reporter at the Dallas Morning News recently was allowed to retire heh,heh. She (Danielle diMartino) had been writing for awhile now about upside down Merkan debt, and would not be faced down on the housing crunch to come , which has come.
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11.26.06 - 8:11 am | #
'Saudi Arabia. Right. The royal family that Al Qaeda hates even worse than they hate the US.
Karin '
whose ambassador to the U.S. often points out that we will not be happy with the results of democracy in the ME.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 8:13 am | #
Lazarus:
Average credit card interest rates were running about 13 percent last week. But you never know.
That's because credit cards are the only consumer product for which the terms of sale can change after you sign a contract. Virtually all card agreements include language stipulating that the card provider can change the terms of the deal, including interest rates, "at any time for any reason."
And as if that didn't seem sufficiently unfair for consumers, don't forget the universal default provision. This is an element of many card agreements that allows an issuer to jack up your rates if you miss a payment to another creditor -- even if you've never been tardy with payments to the issuer in question.
"I think even a lot of the credit card companies find this indefensible," said Linda Sherry, a spokeswoman for San Francisco's Consumer Action. "They just want to get more money out of you whenever they can."
Moe Szyslak |
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And then there are fees. Card issuers will ding you for almost anything, from paying by phone to using your plastic overseas. And if you're ever late with a payment, forget it. Late fees can run as high as $39.
The federal Government Accountability Office said in a report last month that late fees averaged almost $34 last year, up more than 160 percent from $13 a decade ago. The fee for exceeding your credit limit averaged about $31 in 2005, up nearly 140 percent from $13 in 1995.
Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:16 am | #
Wow! This is fascinating. . . Researchers began peering deep into American homes, studying up close the interactions between parents and children. The first scholars to emerge with a specific culprit in hand were Betty Hart and Todd R. Risley, child psychologists at the University of Kansas, who in 1995 published the results of an intensive research project on language acquisition. Ten years earlier, they recruited 42 families with newborn children in Kansas City, and for the following three years they visited each family once a month, recording absolutely everything that occurred between the child and the parent or parents. The researchers then transcribed each encounter and analyzed each child’s language development and each parent’s communication style. They found, first, that vocabulary growth differed sharply by class and that the gap between the classes opened early. By age 3, children whose parents were professionals had vocabularies of about 1,100 words, and children whose parents were on welfare had vocabularies of about 525 words. The children’s I.Q.’s correlated closely to their vocabularies. The average I.Q. among the professional children was 117, and the welfare children had an average I.Q. of 79.
When Hart and Risley then addressed the question of just what caused those variations, the answer they arrived at was startling. By comparing the vocabulary scores with their observations of each child’s home life, they were able to conclude that the size of each child’s vocabulary correlated most closely to one simple factor: the number of words the parents spoke to the child. That varied greatly across the homes they visited, and again, it varied by class. In the professional homes, parents directed an average of 487 “utterances” — anything from a one-word command to a full soliloquy — to their children each hour. In welfare homes, the children heard 178 utterances per hour.
What’s more, the kinds of words and statements that children heard varied by class. The most basic difference was in the number of “discouragements” a child heard — prohibitions and words of disapproval — compared with the number of encouragements, or words of praise and approval. By age 3, the average child of a professional heard about 500,000 encouragements and 80,000 discouragements. For the welfare children, the situation was reversed: they heard, on average, about 75,000 encouragements and 200,000 discouragements . . . . http://www.nytimes.com
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11.26.06 - 8:17 am | #
whose ambassador to the U.S. often points out that we will not be happy with the results of democracy in the ME.
Ruth, revolted
That's something we're beginning to see not only in the Middle East, but also in Latin America.
I wonder if the US is going to be mature enough to accept that the "will of the people" in other countries often is diametrically opposed to what our government wants.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 8:18 am | #
Re: the above.
And how, exactly, do they want me to fight that?
DWD |
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11.26.06 - 8:20 am | #
Good morning from the county of Kings.
HoneyBearKelly |
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11.26.06 - 8:20 am | #
Oy. Anita Hill being interviewed on CBC.
Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:20 am | #
Oy. Anita Hill being interviewed on CBC.
Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:20 am | #
Just heard a caller on CSPAN saying Barack Obama could never be elected president, because Americans will never vote for a Muslim for President.
Karin |
11.26.06 - 8:23 am | #
Nature, or nurture? Guess my sister reading to her womb wasn't such a nutty idea after all.
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11.26.06 - 8:24 am | #
And how, exactly, do they want me to fight that?
I think the purpose of Head Start is to fight that, and it's been proven to work. It's kind of late by the time they get to you, DWD.
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And how, exactly, do they want me to fight that?
DWD
That was an interesting article, DWD, and I wonder if 'supplements' can undo some of the damage, and what the time frame is for the efficacy of such 'supplements'.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 8:25 am | #
Just heard a caller on CSPAN saying Barack Obama could never be elected president, because Americans will never vote for a Muslim for President.
'Guess my sister reading to her womb wasn't such a nutty idea after all.
plantsman, lowercase '
What, no Beethoven?
Latin and Central Am's are getting away from the conquistadores, and it's a rejection of the ruling class here as well. Remember, too, our native population is closer related to the 'illegulls' than the WASPs. And they were here first.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 8:27 am | #
Diane,
There is no political will to severely increase funding for such programs. The truth is that head start is a wish for many children. And Head Start needs, not only teachers, but counselors to go into the homes and try to affect change.
And in the regular schools? We need a nurturing environment full of hope and expectation and experiences. But we have no money for field trips. We are tied into preparing children for tests - anything I teach that is not included in the "glickies" (Grade Level Content Expectations) is suspect.
And where is the opportunity to participate in supervised activities with a positive environment and a positive outcome? Non-existent.
Arghhhh. (maybe if we had not spent so much money trying to snuff "sand monkeys.")
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11.26.06 - 8:30 am | #
because Americans will never vote for a Muslim for President
Just goes to show you, stupidity is alive and well in America.
Barndog, now heavily medicated |
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11.26.06 - 8:32 am | #
The word "squandered" received such a pummeling
in 2000 that it has not been back in the lexicon since; yet it perfectly captures what happened to the funds mis-spent in Chimpy's Big Adventure.
All gone, and none benefitting our society.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 8:34 am | #
After all, the only Muslim who will be in Congress
has the surname "Ellison", I believe; and naturally he's a Democrat. Make note, Rush and BillO, you'll surely want to mention this a zillion times!
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11.26.06 - 8:38 am | #
That was an interesting article, DWD, and I wonder if 'supplements' can undo some of the damage, and what the time frame is for the efficacy of such 'supplements'.
My guess is that the plasticity is similar to that found in examining children recovering from brain trauma. The article also speaks to Hillary's "It Takes a Village". Things such as Head Start help ameliorate vicissitudes.
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11.26.06 - 8:39 am | #
I hate when Frank Rich is off.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 8:39 am | #
I guess I lost the link, but a while back there was a radio show that went around and asked people what they thought of CNN playing tapes of Barak Obama. Hilarity ensued.
Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:40 am | #
I guess I lost the link, but a while back there was a radio show that went around and asked people what they thought of CNN playing tapes of Barak Obama. Hilarity ensued.
Moe Szyslak |
11.26.06 - 8:40 am | #
Glen Beck already asked Congressman-elect Ellison to prove to him that he wasn't a terrorist.
So BillO or Rush would be second.
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11.26.06 - 8:41 am | #
Glen Beck already asked Congressman-elect Ellison to prove to him that he wasn't a terrorist.
Guess Beck never heard that you can't "prove a negative."
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11.26.06 - 8:43 am | #
DWD,
We are a nation of the 'quick fix,' unfortunately.
Test scores down? Teach to the test.
The shameful part is that at this point we know enough about early childhood development and effective pedagogical techniques to do better, but it isn't easy, and it isn't cheap.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 8:44 am | #
Watch out for that hilarity, Moe.
Barndog, now heavily medicated |
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11.26.06 - 8:44 am | #
It's eerie. I have been away from series TV long enough that when I do see a recent offering, I generally find the scripts very disjointed and difficult to follow. Case in point, a friend loves "Grey's Anatomy", and I can't make head nor tails of it.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 8:46 am | #
' it isn't easy, and it isn't cheap.
Diane C. Barking-Mad'
it also doesn't have a member of the cretin in chief's family pushing it for personal profit
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 8:47 am | #
on google news under the same heading two anti-dem stories:
"Hoyer received tons of special interest money"
"Democrats still lack a plan"
remember, the people elected democrats - our corpocracy wants them to fail
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11.26.06 - 8:48 am | #
The shameful part is that at this point we know enough about early childhood development and effective pedagogical techniques to do better, but it isn't easy, and it isn't cheap.
Actually, it is cheap, at least compared to what we spend on other things. The price and operating costs of one destroyer or cruiser would probably endow DWD's school district and a few others forever at twice the budget they have now.
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11.26.06 - 8:49 am | #
it also doesn't have a member of the cretin in chief's family pushing it for personal profit
Actually, Neil's software company is, and remember Bar gave a "charitable gift" contingent on buying Neil's software.
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11.26.06 - 8:50 am | #
Congressional Budget Office analyst, Michael Gilmore, told members of the House Armed Services Projections Subcommittee that the price of the first new DD(X) destroyer could be up to $4.7 billion....
FReeper sez "liberal underlings" placed a label on his office door.
Standardized tests have been vilified by liberals in order to dumb down higher education, nevertheless, they remain the best admissions tool. This is not opinion. These are the facts from a faculty member working in higher education for 20 years. Incidentally, I am the rare moderate on campus from a hard sciences field. The label of right-wing radical is placed on my office door by the liberal underlings from the "arts".
'remember, the people elected democrats - our corpocracy wants them to fail
mogwai'
More like, we have a failed regime, which the media is unable to give its true colors, as long as it depends on corporate financing. And that media can't promote sound policy as long as it is advocated by the opponents of that politics of corporate financing.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 8:52 am | #
"Destroyer". What a pretty name for a ship.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 8:53 am | #
Actually, it is cheap, at least compared to what we spend on other things. The price and operating costs of one destroyer or cruiser would probably endow DWD's school district and a few others forever at twice the budget they have now.
spinoza Neque lugare
That's certainly true!
I guess it's a matter of priorities among the powers in Congress and the White House.
Defense contractors have more money to throw at congress critters than teachers' groups or parents.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 8:53 am | #
'The label of right-wing radical is placed on my office door by the liberal underlings from the "arts".'
it goes really well with the swastika tho
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 8:54 am | #
I guess it's a matter of priorities among the powers in Congress and the White House
Which should change come January, at least we hope. I believe it will, and quickly.
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11.26.06 - 8:57 am | #
'Bar gave a "charitable gift" contingent on buying Neil's software.
plantsman, lowercase'
which sure begs it's being unqualified for tax exemption.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 8:57 am | #
The price and operating costs of one destroyer or cruiser would probably endow DWD's school district and a few others forever at twice the budget they have now.
we already spend more on military than most of the rest of the world COMBINED - to me that peaks volumes about priorities
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 8:58 am | #
I am the rare moderate on campus from a hard sciences field.
Well, that kind of science balkanizing is a dead giveaway that you're probably a dickhead.
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"Just sit right down and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip.
Dick Cheney flew from Arlington,
aboard his Boeing ship.
The Veep was mighty A-Rab Friend,
The pilot straight and sure,
So Crashcart he set sail that day
for a three-hour tour, a three hour tour."
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Educationland, USA;
'Research was limited when Congress created the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail in 1987 in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma and Tennessee.
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"They don't understand really, truly how bad the government was in the old days," Crowe said.' http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061.../
trail_of_tears
How to get your gov't grant - now to start real history lessons.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:01 am | #
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 9:02 am | #
Saw "Wordplay" last night, the nerd documentary about crossword championships. Great movie. Jon Stewart was in there ranting about finding a word. Will Shortz, puzzle editor of NYT majored in crossword puzzles at Indiana U.
NYT actually let me download a free puzzle, from the archives of course. Today's puzzle, like Modo would have to be a $ deal.
el |
11.26.06 - 9:02 am | #
it also doesn't have a member of the cretin in chief's family pushing it for personal profit
it's more corrupt and complex than even that: the Bushies have long and deep connections with McGraw-Hill, the publisher of virtually all the 'approved' NCLB phonix texts...which market is BILLIONS of dollars /year...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar |
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11.26.06 - 9:03 am | #
Well, that kind of science balkanizing is a dead giveaway that you're probably a dickhead.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 8:58 am
oh, yeah he's a dickhead...utterly without doubt...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar |
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11.26.06 - 9:04 am | #
So I awoke this morning to find that a Fox News graphics operator had commented on my blog, Blast Off!. It's a response to the whole "typo" flap that was running around the blogosphere a few weeks ago. Check it out. What do you think?
I think:
1. Any Democrat who works for Fox News is either stupid or willfully ignorant.
2. Repeatedly labeling, for example, Foley as a Dem is not a mistake. Once is a mistake. More than once is deliberate deception.
I'm not sure what to say to this person, so I'll leave it to you all ...
Sinfonian |
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11.26.06 - 9:06 am | #
Morning WGG. Sounds like you are full of piss and vinegar as usual.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
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11.26.06 - 9:06 am | #
Huevos rancheros, WGG?
plantsman, lowercase 9:06 am
todos las dias, amigo...
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar |
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11.26.06 - 9:07 am | #
Hmm, a few minutes ago the wife asked if we could go see Casino Royale again.
I suspect that it is not for the plotline.
EkCenTriK | 11.25.06 - 10:56 pm | #
Saw it last night with my boyfriend. Daniel Craig was smokin' hot.
We liked it - a lot grittier and less glamorous than previous Bond movies.
Morning WGG. Sounds like you are full of piss and vinegar as usual.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in - 9:06 am
mornin' spinoza, plantsman, et alla ya!
todos las dias, amigo
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar |
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11.26.06 - 9:09 am | #
Taking my son out for a bike ride.
Just wanted to get your take on that comment. I'll check back later. Thanks in advance.
Sinfonian |
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11.26.06 - 9:10 am | #
Dr. Shouty-Crackers should enjoy 72 degrees, sunny & breezy weather today. Color me green.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:11 am | #
'Bushies have long and deep connections with McGraw-Hill, the publisher of virtually all the 'approved' NCLB phonix texts...which market is BILLIONS of dollars /year...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar '
maybe I'm the only one who remembers Bar's family took the sorta backwards GHW Bush and turned him into a media darling. Which media was in Bar's family.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:11 am | #
Sinfonian I would point out to your commenter that Foley is from Florida and not Rhode Island.
And that if he/she didn't know that (and the fact that he's an R and not a D) then he/she must have been living under a rock.
Or a bridge.
HoneyBearKelly |
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11.26.06 - 9:13 am | #
My brother works at Fox graphics, Sinfonian. All those moving diagonal lines between programs and the in between "what's coming up" are his domain.
Sorry, you lose. The department is not pro-war or fundie. Computer graphics on teevee is pretty technical stuff. I visited the dept. and watched my brother work. They get a bunch of online clips and sound bites and have just enough time to combine it together. It's enough just to make it artistically satisfying.
Since it takes a few brains to do the job, most of the dept. hates W.
el |
11.26.06 - 9:13 am | #
WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE … [Cliff May]
John Burns reports that France and Italy paid Iraqi kidnappers $30 million in ransom last year.
Also, according to a leaked report, “if recent revenue and expense estimates are correct, terrorist and insurgent groups in Iraq may have surplus funds with which to support other terrorist organizations outside of Iraq.”
If this continues we may have to invade Iraq and take these insurgent groups on.
Is that supposed to be funny, you fucking ghoul?
Lime Rickey |
11.26.06 - 9:13 am | #
Sinfonian wins on Jeopardy , gets Fox commenters. Can Fox Security be far behind?
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:13 am | #
I'm not sure what to say to this person, so I'll leave it to you all ...
Sinfonian
so that person may have 'created' the graphic, but i cannot believe that it was them without any editor to verify that placed the graphic onto the screen OVER and OVER...like he said - his program is viewed by millions - there must be some oversight/editing of every last bit of graphic that goes onto the screens...and how about the producers who view the screens as the air the show, there are a number of folks in a control booth - no one noticed?
Recently, there has been a bit of egregious misspelling by the people responsible for the "crawl" on MSNBC. Real simple stuff. It's frightening.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:16 am | #
Sinfonian,
I WAS RIGHT, EH?
(Don't mess with your friendly neighborhood novelists!)
DWD |
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11.26.06 - 9:16 am | #
Sinfonian,
I WAS RIGHT, EH?
(Don't mess with your friendly neighborhood novelists!)
DWD |
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11.26.06 - 9:16 am | #
Sinfonian wins on Jeopardy , gets Fox commenters. Can Fox Security be far behind?
IT'S A TRAP!
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.26.06 - 9:17 am | #
there must be some oversight/editing of every last bit of graphic that goes onto the screens
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no time for that, there is a protocol and the production assistant bumps it upstairs if something looks off
el |
11.26.06 - 9:18 am | #
They get a bunch of online clips and sound bites and have just enough time to combine it together. It's enough just to make it artistically satisfying
but el, they showed the created graphic OVER and OVER - hours later...you cannot tell me that not one editor saw it...i understand the heat of the moment creation; but they had time to edit and fix this one - and no one did
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 9:18 am | #
Damnit, haloscan, quit messing with me!
I'm not sure what to say to this person, so I'll leave it to you all ...
Sinfonian | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 9:06 am | #
I just left a comment, one more civil than it deserved.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.26.06 - 9:18 am | #
Hey, don't tell them. I loved watching the item about 'turkey feats' all Thursday.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:19 am | #
Livinenko died in vain.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:20 am | #
So much for the bike ride. It started to rain.
Foley and RI is conflating two incidents, HoneyBear. That wasn't clear from the comment. There was a graphic reversing Chafee and Whitehouse's parties, hence the RI reference.
El, I never said that the graphics designers themselves were at fault, nor do I take issue with the statement that the Fox graphics folks are predominately Dems (although I question their judgment a bit - easy enough to do from a distance, I guess). My beef was that since Fox News is unabashedly partisan, whoever's calling the shots over there decided to have some fun with party affiliations. I don't blame the commenter, I blame the whole putrid system there.
Sinfonian |
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11.26.06 - 9:21 am | #
A question sparked by Penelope Cruz: do aloe and green tea really improve hair dye?
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:21 am | #
they had time to edit and fix this one - and no one did
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nature of the beast. It may not be such a big deal with the country at large.
el |
11.26.06 - 9:22 am | #
Good morning! Time to get up and eat pancakes!
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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11.26.06 - 9:24 am | #
If W meeting in Jordan with Maliki really causes al-Sadr's faction to pull out of the Iraqi government, will Chimpy's stubborness have been worth it?
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:24 am | #
' I don't blame the commenter, I blame the whole putrid system there.
Sinfonian '
which can only survive as long as the public listens. Even my recidivist friends are defensive about Fox by now, too embarrassed to quote them as news sources.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:25 am | #
nature of the beast. It may not be such a big deal with the country at large.
Oh, bullshit. Misidentifying party affiliation is fucking unconscionable. As Sinfonian says, it's not the graphics people at fault, though they might have made the initial mistake, but SOMEBODY in the world at large let Fox know and they did nothing to correct it.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.26.06 - 9:25 am | #
Dr. S-C, you have gorgeous weather ahead today. Do enjoy it!
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:25 am | #
Almost made it through the dishes. Another attempt here in a minute, after some rest.
Barndog, now heavily medicated |
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11.26.06 - 9:26 am | #
'If W meeting in Jordan with Maliki really causes al-Sadr's faction to pull out of the Iraqi government, will Chimpy's stubborness have been worth it?
plantsman, lowercase '
Almost made it through the dishes. Another attempt here in a minute, after some rest.
You poor guy. Doing dishes thru an euphoric fog is so unfair!
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:27 am | #
George Steffie is trashing Brownback.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
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11.26.06 - 9:27 am | #
Sinfonian | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 9:21 am | #
putrid system: I can relate, and wouldn't take money from them myself.
But honestly, the graphics dept is a pretty cool place with cool people. Friday after work is movie night, they air the latest films for people working on the lot.
Great working conditions, building, offices, pay, and no neanderthals to be seen. People working there like Fox and each other. Except, as you say, some content from the news dept.
Trent Lott has learned from being bitchslapped by the A-man. Good to know.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.26.06 - 9:28 am | #
It's going to be very nice from now until Wednesday night and then it'll start being cold. In the 30s cold. I'll have to go find the old sheets so I can cover things against the frost. I need to cut back the Mexican birds of paradise and the bougainvillea and the nandina too, the yellow bells. But we got irrigation yesterday, so everybody should be able to withstand it. Actually, I think I got about half again as much irrigation as usual - but then we're having the shut down for the annual canal cleaning from now til February, so that may have been why.
Completely random morning gardening musing.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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11.26.06 - 9:30 am | #
NTodd - uhhh no man, I had not gotten a response from your email as of yet.
Bah. I basically said: cool, and thanks! And here's my addy (all the stalker trolls already have it):
215 Bog Rd
Cambridge, VT
05444
Lemme know if you want any syrup.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.26.06 - 9:30 am | #
No Partridge family or Archies!
pigboy |
11.26.06 - 9:30 am | #
Any (free) links to Frank Rich? Much ablidged!
Cartman |
11.26.06 - 9:30 am | #
I menbtioned this somewhere else earlier. Would like to bring it up again.
I propose a moratorium on the phrase "sectarian strife", be it in Iraq, Lebanon, Ireland, or anywhere else.
Instead, I propose we call them "religious wars". It will piss off the wingnut wack-o fund-os more.
Ba'al | Homepage | 11.25.06 - 10:56 pm
Well, sectarian is a code word for religious strife.
My suggestion is to call it what it really is, 'power strife', because in the end that's what this is over. Maybe religion is a component, maybe it isn't. But both 'religious strife' and 'sectarian strife' are misleading.
Or maybe we could call it 'really fucked up strife', or 'really stupid and pointless strife.'
Buckeye, Blue State |
11.26.06 - 9:32 am | #
It's going to be low 20s cold here tomorrow, maybe valley snow. The struggling impatiens will turn to mush, the flowering maples and fuchsias turn brown. Time to consider the Xmas tree to shift the focus to renewal.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:32 am | #
I'm not sure that so many people know what the word 'strife' means.
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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11.26.06 - 9:33 am | #
Morning, Bats! Got vegetable soup cooking on the stove and I may actually go try to rake some leaves here shortly.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.26.06 - 9:33 am | #
Hello. Drive-by.
I see plantsman is having trouble unraveling the backstory for "Grey's Anatomy." All those serial shows have web sites where you can learn what's going on, or get a synopsis on a show you missed. And learn all about the actors too, and what other hits the producer has that you'll love
Draco, overly friendly |
11.26.06 - 9:34 am | #
Frank Rich: writing a book, presumably; no column today -- Kristof and Bobo, only.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:34 am | #
George Steffie is trashing Brownback.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Enh.
Brownback trashes himself... Steffie's just along for the ride. Senator Sam looks pretty silly when he suggests that a federal judge shouldn't be confirmed because she attended a lesbian "commitment" ceremony for her nextdoor neighbor... even sillier when he dances around it.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 |
11.26.06 - 9:35 am | #
Instead, I propose we call them "religious wars". It will piss off the wingnut wack-o fund-os more.
Anything that pisses those folks off is fine with me. But they're really oil wars at this point, about to morph into water wars in a couple of years.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.26.06 - 9:35 am | #
Dr. Shouty-Crackers should enjoy 72 degrees, sunny & breezy weather today. Color me green.
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 9:11 am |
Are you green with envy, or molding from all the rain?
Buckeye, Blue State |
11.26.06 - 9:35 am | #
Hello. Drive-by.
I see plantsman is having trouble unraveling the backstory for "Grey's Anatomy." All those serial shows have web sites where you can learn what's going on, or get a synopsis on a show you missed. And learn all about the actors too, and what other hits the producer has that you'll love
And lots of drug dealers will give you the first few hits for free.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.26.06 - 9:36 am | #
Vegetable soup sounds yummy. I'm thinking about mushroom barley, myself.
Karin |
11.26.06 - 9:37 am | #
Draco, I'm having trouble unraveling the front story in Grey's Anatomy -- Sandra Oh was so good in Arli$$ and Sideways that I wanted to see it.
But better I don't get sucked in, really.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:37 am | #
The LA Times has an editorial that says the best thing the US can do for Iraq would be to put Saddam back in power...at he'd know how to handle the fighting.
anonymous |
11.26.06 - 9:38 am | #
Buckeye, both. Near rainiest November ever here.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:38 am | #
And lots of drug dealers will give you the first few hits for free.
Really? BRB. Gonna go find me some meth...
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.26.06 - 9:38 am | #
Welp, I think I have a Plan B worked out if Regis Bank wants to play hardball... anyone here banc w/Wachovia? Like 'em?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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11.26.06 - 9:39 am | #
OK, thanks for the commentary, gang.
I didn't think I was too far out in left field (pun intended) on the Fox News deal.
The LA Times has an editorial that says the best thing the US can do for Iraq would be to put Saddam back in power...at he'd know how to handle the fighting.
anonymous
I can see him at his inauguration with shades and a Groucho nose'n'glasses.
The US Media would be none the wiser.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 |
11.26.06 - 9:39 am | #
The LA Times has an editorial that says the best thing the US can do for Iraq would be to put Saddam back in power...at he'd know how to handle the fighting.
The BEST thing would be to let the Iraqis decide what's best for them.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.26.06 - 9:39 am | #
Buckeye, both. Near rainiest November ever here.
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 9:38 am |
I'm going to have to email my nephew and find out if he still likes Seattle weather.
He moved out there last year (from Chicago) to go to school and loved the weather.
Buckeye, Blue State |
11.26.06 - 9:41 am | #
U.S. Finds Iraq Insurgency Has Funds to Sustain Itself
By JOHN F. BURNS and KIRK SEMPLE
The insurgency is raising tens of millions of dollars a year from oil smuggling, kidnapping, counterfeiting, corrupt charities and other crimes, a report conclude http://www.nytimes.com/?oref=login
I wonder who is loaning them the money?
GW Bush |
11.26.06 - 9:41 am | #
The top 100 albums of all times.
remember this is from TIME - as white as wonder bread - but still no Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon?
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 9:42 am | #
anyone here banc w/Wachovia? Like 'em?
Nope, but if they're giving away free money, I'd take it.
Besides my meatspace checking account, I've got ING Direct online banking. Best interest rates, good security.
Karin |
11.26.06 - 9:42 am | #
Second day for "Worst Weather in America"! We rawk!!!
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:42 am | #
So I take it we should just step back and let them decide for themselves what they want. Fine by me, let's get our troops out of there ASAP then.
anonymous |
11.26.06 - 9:42 am | #
'The BEST thing would be to let the Iraqis decide what's best for them.
NTodd, Pithy Pixie'
Duncan Hunter on MTP saying the Iraqi people 'enthusiastically embraced' the gov't 'they put in place'. Are the thugs the only ones who think we all forget they were trying to GET US OUT?
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:42 am | #
But, Iraqis are uncivilised and don't know anything - my lord, it's only since the US arrived on their good-intentioned mission of mercy and compassion that they've moved out of their pathetic mud huts and desert tents....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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11.26.06 - 9:42 am | #
Classic rock radio on--when will I learn?
They're playing Starship's "Jane," which I've been tuning out immediately for over20 years.
So I never heard the command to troublesome Jane, "Call hide-and-seek by its real name!" What a bitch this Jane must be, using deceptive misnomers this way.
My own doomed romance was even worse--the lout used misleading terms for "bungee-jumping."
Draco, overly friendly |
11.26.06 - 9:43 am | #
This is weird:
Woman's body found behind bookcase
POSTED: 1:11 a.m. EST, November 26, 2006
NEW PORT RICHEY, Florida (AP) -- A woman's body was found wedged upside-down behind a bookcase in the home she shared with relatives who had spent nearly two weeks looking for her.
The BEST thing would be to let the Iraqis decide what's best for them.
Communist socialistic maple syrup digital puke!
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
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11.26.06 - 9:43 am | #
ING Direct online banking. Best interest rates, good security.
I use them to for savings account and CDs, but it can take a day or two to "get" your money.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.26.06 - 9:43 am | #
George Clooney and Cate Blanchett in a new film noir ? Kewl!!!!
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:44 am | #
U.S. Finds Iraq Insurgency Has Funds to Sustain Itself
By JOHN F. BURNS and KIRK SEMPLE
bullshit deflection from our genius MSM...how much money is needed for AK-47's and strap-on suicide belts? they ain't fucking building missile defense or DDx destroyers!
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 9:44 am | #
Lotta RPG's laying around Iraq, too.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:46 am | #
'they've moved out of their pathetic mud huts and desert tents....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers '
and into Syria, Iran, etc.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:46 am | #
But, Iraqis are uncivilised and don't know anything - my lord, it's only since the US arrived on their good-intentioned mission of mercy and compassion that they've moved out of their pathetic mud huts and desert tents....
bullshit deflection from our genius MSM...how much money is needed for AK-47's and strap-on suicide belts?
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A significant amount... and it's significant that they have independent resources to finance their expenses.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 |
11.26.06 - 9:47 am | #
On Wednesday, a coalition of 12 states, led by California and Massachusetts and including Washington state, will go before the Supreme Court seeking to show that the nation's environmental regulators have the legal authority and responsibility to control greenhouse-gas emissions linked to global warming, which many scientists describe as the biggest environmental threat to the planet.
The administration says it is studying the problem and "seeking a cooperative international approach to addressing global climate change," Solicitor General Paul Clement wrote in his brief to the court.
Putting new limits on emissions from motor vehicles and power plants is out of the question, at least for now, he added, saying, "the Environmental Protection Authority lacks authority under the Clean Air Act ... to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions."
The case before the Supreme Court tests that conclusion. It begins with a simple question: Is carbon dioxide an "air pollutant" under the terms of the Clean Air Act? The answer may determine whether federal regulators must tackle global warming and whether California and other states may do so on their own.
HSBC Online Savings (passbook, no minimum, ATM access, bank to bank xfer): 5.05%
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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11.26.06 - 9:48 am | #
Draco, I'm having trouble unraveling the front story in Grey's Anatomy -- Sandra Oh was so good in Arli$$ and Sideways that I wanted to see it.
But better I don't get sucked in, really.
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 9:37 am
Front and back story is sex and relationships. And maybe some medicine thrown in.
Buckeye, Blue State |
11.26.06 - 9:48 am | #
bullshit deflection from our genius MSM...how much money is needed for AK-47's and strap-on suicide belts? they ain't fucking building missile defense or DDx destroyers!
Actually, it's not bullshit but an important piece of information. Precisely because this is an asymmetric conflict, this shows that the insurgency is nowhere near it's "last throes".
NTodd, Pithy Pixie |
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11.26.06 - 9:48 am | #
Second day for "Worst Weather in America"! We rawk!!!
i am glad it's you and not us in newengland (60's and sunny today) - we have plenty of times been the worse weather in the US
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 9:48 am | #
The Indians knew about corn, too;
'It's time for this country to resume its eminence by use of its own resources, physical and mental - and time for a halt to the oil industry and its militarization of the world in service to its moral and economic wasteland.
Corn is a beautiful sight . It has deeply valuable connotations (another good 'C'-word) for our emergence into a renewed, responsible society. The American natives had corn festivals, it's good to celebrate some of the healthy, natural roots of our country's values, and good to return to them.'
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:50 am | #
BAGHDAD, Nov. 25 — The insurgency in Iraq is now self-sustaining financially, raising tens of millions of dollars a year from oil smuggling, kidnapping, counterfeiting, connivance by corrupt Islamic charities and other crimes that the Iraqi government and its American patrons have been largely unable to prevent, a classified United States government report has concluded.
The report, obtained by The New York Times, estimates that groups responsible for many insurgent and terrorist attacks are raising $70 million to $200 million a year from illegal activities. It says $25 million to $100 million of that comes from oil smuggling and other criminal activity involving the state-owned oil industry, aided by “corrupt and complicit” Iraqi officials.
As much as $36 million a year comes from ransoms paid for hundreds of kidnap victims, the report says. It estimates that unnamed foreign governments — previously identified by American officials as including France and Italy — paid $30 million in ransom last year.
The bullshit likely to be deflected by a story such as this is that the Iraq insurgency must be underwritten by Syria and Iran because there's no way they could sustain its modest finances themselves.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 |
11.26.06 - 9:51 am | #
Actually, it's not bullshit but an important piece of information. Precisely because this is an asymmetric conflict, this shows that the insurgency is nowhere near it's "last throes".
NTodd
i get your point, NTodd, my point was that regardless, an insurgency does not cost much so the money question is not really a starter
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 9:51 am | #
Then let's call it 'maize.' Has magical connotations.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:51 am | #
Good morning, all. Another day of waiting for the hospital beeper to go off. what's new? Who's here?
U.S. Finds Iraq Insurgency Has Funds to Sustain Itself
By JOHN F. BURNS and KIRK SEMPLE
bullshit deflection from our genius MSM...how much money is needed for AK-47's and strap-on suicide belts? they ain't fucking building missile defense or DDx destroyers!
What's more, they aren't paying for repaving the Pentagon parking lot, or salaries & benefits for neocon civilian policy advisors, or $800 wrenches, or, or....look, in short probably as much as half the money they raise goes to actually sustaining the fighting, and that's a percentage that i believe to be ENORMOUSLY higher than the US percentage........
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Cynicus |
11.26.06 - 9:51 am | #
George Clooney and Cate Blanchett in a new film noir ? Kewl!!!!
plantsman, lowercase | Homepage | 11.26.06 - 9:44 am | #
Good morning moonbats. I have been away starting a new job. Loads to do and learn. I have missed you guys. Plantsman, have you gotten any snow there? or is it all further north?
Hellkitty |
11.26.06 - 9:52 am | #
Has there been much discussion about that radioactive polonium-210 poisoning? I understand a little bit of this stuff goes a long way. This shits' much more deadlier than an improvised dirty bomb Bu$h and his harlots have been preaching abort since 2001.
anonymous |
11.26.06 - 9:53 am | #
atrocity roundup of box turtles.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:53 am | #
Alex Mitt predicts Pelosi will pick Alcee Hastings over Jane Harman. Another fatal mistake by a wummun!
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:53 am | #
Fresh bobblehead drapes
Buckeye, Blue State |
11.26.06 - 9:53 am | #
'Then let's call it 'maize.' Has magical connotations.
plantsman, lowercase'
much nicer than whipgrass I s'pose.
Ruth, revolted |
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11.26.06 - 9:54 am | #
Further east, Hellkitty; in the Cascades, but possible tomorrow here in the lowlands. Historically early, it would be.
plantsman, lowercase |
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11.26.06 - 9:55 am | #
Alex Mitt predicts Pelosi will pick Alcee Hastings over Jane Harman. Another fatal mistake by a wummun!
plantsman, lowercase
I like the fact that Rush Holt is beginning to get a lot of positive chatter. He's eminently qualified, as a former CIA analyst (and our time at the same college overlapped by a year -- also Paul Wellstone's first year as a professor there).
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 |
11.26.06 - 9:56 am | #
sheets???
where ??
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar |
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11.26.06 - 9:57 am | #
Has there been much discussion about that radioactive polonium-210 poisoning? I understand a little bit of this stuff goes a long way. This shits' much more deadlier than an improvised dirty bomb Bu$h and his harlots have been preaching abort since 2001.
not easy to get that shit...whereas the 'dirty' bomb could be plain old natural uranium which when essploded would cause uranium dust particles to be inhaled - and thus really bad
polonium is much more deadly, but much more difficult to get a hold of, IMHO
mogwai |
11.26.06 - 9:58 am | #
Plantsman, are you further down the W. Valley these days?
You mentioned getting a Christmas tree. One year we took our kids on the steam train that runs from Hood River to O'Dell met the growers, chose a tree and rode back. I know its a long way to get a tree, but it was great fun. I really miss $5/foot trees that are oh so fresh.
Hellkitty |
11.26.06 - 10:01 am | #
NTodd - you found the records of my pippels, how nice. The Rosses, the Cheeks, the Loves, the whole gang. Yep, evicted from perfectly nice houses in Georgia, crackers looking for gold.... As I recall, we got Bunny-Bunny into Harvard as a legacy, courtesy of Great great great great uncle John Ross. It's important to know one's family, after all.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers |
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11.26.06 - 10:05 am | #
Who was the summbiotch that gave Condi Rice herpes?