I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
You can't MAKE me enjoy it.
Hrmph.
Woot!
A beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely to be in a family earning more than three times the poverty line than in a poor family. In total, only 12.7 percent of the benefits from a federal minimum wage increase to $7.25 an hour would go to poor families. In contrast, 63 percent of benefits would go to families earning more than twice the poverty line and 42 percent would go to families earning more than three times the poverty line.
A beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely to be in a family earning more than three times the poverty line than in a poor family. In total, only 12.7 percent of the benefits from a federal minimum wage increase to $7.25 an hour would go to poor families. In contrast, 63 percent of benefits would go to families earning more than twice the poverty line and 42 percent would go to families earning more than three times the poverty line.
Westboro Baptist Hate Cult Chased Away Like the Cowards They Are (Video)
A beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely to be in a family earning more than three times the poverty line than in a poor family. In total, only 12.7 percent of the benefits from a federal minimum wage increase to $7.25 an hour would go to poor families. In contrast, 63 percent of benefits would go to families earning more than twice the poverty line and 42 percent would go to families earning more than three times the poverty line.
dave
How so?
Why, hello, Nim!
but I was just getting settled in to the last thread...
Always a pleasure, Nim 
Kitty, thank God you've replaced Lou Dobbs. I suspect that the higher-ups finally grew tired of his sexual hijinks. His leering presence will not be missed.
When all of your advisers heave their plastic
At your feet to convince you of your pain
Trying to prove that your conclusions should be more drastic
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
Won't you come see me, Queen Jane?
and still no cats...or even gypsies
FSM bless us, every one!
and still no cats...or even gypsies
This can only be good news for the Republicans.
I've got Friday Cat Blogging up.
This can only be good news for the Republicans.
left rev
atrios is some kind of closeted repuke, I think this is pretty clear!
Is that before or after they've started making more money?
Is that before or after they've started making more money?
I've got Friday Cat Blogging up.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Super-sized, at that!
say "dave", where'd that little minimum wage factoid come from?
I'm really interested, until you pulled it deep from the bowels of your...bowels.
ooooh. Game Show Network is going to be doing a "Chuck Barris where is he now" story.
A beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely to be in a family earning more than three times the poverty line than in a poor family.
Citations, dave.
you can enjoy the delights of my Friday Cat Blogging
I guess it's a good time to mention EschaCon
How so?
left rev
Well, so the experts say.
How so?
left rev
Well, so the experts say.
Lou Dobbs, sex? Yech.
Just like that ain't it?
You can't MAKE me enjoy it.
Hrmph.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
You'll either enjoy this thread or you'll go to your room and stay there!
Super-sized, at that!
LittlePig
I do love the big cats.
Fresh thread, right out of the oven.
How so?
left rev
He has no clue. He just cuts and pastes what that asshole Norquist tells him to.
atrios is some kind of closeted repuke, I think this is pretty clear!
::matthew
so called liberal blogger, I suspect.
watertiger, I'm listening to the Bastard Faries even as I type. You may have given me the vehicle to get past the limbo of Dante's Inferno and down to where the cool parties are.
Now hack free!
Lou Dobbs, sex? Yech.
olvlzl
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
Dassa some good-a punditing!
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
::matthew
Put that on Pay-Per-Not-To-View and you'll be a very rich man.
Ahmadinejad wants US out of Iraq
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, has again called on the US to get out of Iraq.
In an exclusive interview with Al Jazeera's Darren Jordon on Friday, Ahmadinejad said that Iraqis should govern themselves without any interference and blamed the US for stirring up divisions between Iraq's Shia, Sunnis and Kurds.
His comments came a day after the US president met with Nuri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, urging him to crack down on Shia militias blamed for sectarian violence.
That's a purdy kitty, Diane.
Darryl Pearce |
I miss Calvin
Iraq Study Group Report will at least be put to some use (read link below).
Assimilated Press
Read Iraq Study Group Report To Be Made Into Opera
thank you for the link, dave.
Dassa some good-a punditing!
uncalled-for stereotypes
Jar-jar!
Well, so the experts say.
dave
Yeah, expert, texpert, choking smoker, don't you think the joker laughs at you.
Ho, ho, ho, he, he, he, ha, ha, ha
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
Dude! How could you even think that??
Pakistan makes changes to rape law
Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, has signed into law an amendment to the country's controversial rape statute to make it easier to prosecute sexual assault cases.
Musharraf signed the bill, called the Protection of Women bill, on Friday. The changes take effect immediately, Sher Afghan, federal minister for parliamentary affairs, said.
"It has been done to safeguard the rights of women," Afghan said.
Under the new law, judges can choose whether a rape case should be tried in a criminal court, where the four-witness rule - or known as the Hudood Ordinance under the old Islamic law - would not apply
Oh, "the experts" say so.
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
::matthew
What have those Mexicans ever done to deserve that?
Lou Dobbs, the anti-Enzyte.
When Khatami appeared at Harvard, the entire audience was just militant Hillel harassing him with questions he wouldn't get at a good high school, but among them was the man hosting the event, some department head, who deliberately mispronounced the present Iranian leader's name as "Achmed Jihad."
In some musical applications the discrepancy you cite could have rather drastic musical consequences.
olvlzl The Heretic
Imagine Gauraldi's Linus and Lucy with no dots and no tied eights. Imagine a music teacher purposely eliminating them because it "sounds better." ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There are alot of $6.00 workers out there who will benefit as well. They will be getting around $8.25 with the minimum wage hike. They have enough skills to demand more than minimum wage workers, but not that much. Minimum wage hike doesn't just boost people making $5.15... all those making $7.24 and less will see more increases above the $7.25 because their market value rises. It probably tops off at some point around $11 or $12 where the market starts to differentiate, but a lot of people who aren't making minimum wage now will enjoy the fruits of the hike. If you are making $6 an hour and you go up to $8.00 because of the new situation on the bottom, that is a 33% raise. Not so bad especially when you are near the bottom.
Lou Dobbs, the anti-Enzyte.
olvlzl The Heretic
Here's our spokesman, Frownin' Lou.
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
Would he be top or bottom?
...yeah, I miss Calvin, too. Not the copied all-over-hell-and-gone version, but freakin' Calvin & Hobbs and The Days Are Just Packed Calvin!
Lou Dobbs should spend some time in Ciudad Juárez.
sorry Mexicans...didn't mean to be so harsh
that's funny, the "Employment Policies Institute" always seems to have bad things to say about
a)raising the minimum wage
b)legislating healthcare for the working poor
c)ACORN: the real enemy of working people
these industry-funded think tansk are a constant source of humor.
thanks for the link, troll. and btw, thanks for 2006.
This continuing deterioration stems from the fact that fewer low-wage employees are supporting a family on a minimum wage income. As poverty becomes more a problem of hours worked and not an individual’s wage level, anti-poverty policies that focus on wages will be less efficient than polices that focus on income, such as the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC).
Snippet from dave's linked article.
I foresee examining this article with a hermenutics of suspicion, keeping a real tigh grip on my wallet.
Issa commandatore Bush-a, he has no what you say, the balls.
The Experts
The Employment Policies Institute is one of several front groups created by Berman & Co., a Washington, DC public affairs firm owned by Rick Berman, who lobbies for the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries. EPI, registered as a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, has has been widely quoted in news stories regarding minimum wage issues, and although a few of those stories have correctly described it as a "think tank financed by business," most stories fail to provide any identification that would enable readers to identify the vested interests behind its pronouncements. Instead, it is usually described exactly the way it describes itself, as a "non-profit research organization dedicated to studying public policy issues surrounding employment growth" that "focuses on issues that affect entry-level employment." In reality, EPI's mission is to keep the minimum wage low so Berman's clients can continue to pay their workers as little as possible.
...
In 1992, Los Angeles Times business columnist Harry Bernstein noted that EPI was using "misleading studies" to help put a positive spin on rising unemployment. "The conservative EPI, financed mostly by low-wage companies such as hotels and restaurants, is issuing reports the titles of which alone could help put a bright face on the miserable job scene," Bernstein wrote. "The latest one is 'The Value of Part-Time Workers to the American Economy.' It hails as a great thing the distressing growth of part-time jobs because they offer 'flexibility' in economic planning for both workers and companies, and say that flexibility is vital 'in the growing and increasingly competitive global economy.' Tell that nonsense to the more than 6.5 million workers forced to take part-time jobs because nothing else is available. That is an increase of more than 1.5 million involuntary part-timers since 1990, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says." EPI has been doing more or less the same thing ever since, sponsoring cooked studies and issuing tendentious sound bytes whenever attempts are made to establish healthcare or better wages for workers.
...
According to the Right Guide, funders of EPI have included the John M. Olin Foundation and the Claude R. Lamb Charitable Foundation.
Uh Huh
Well, so the experts say.
dave
Experts?:
The Employment Policies Institute is one of several front groups created by Berman & Co., a Washington, DC public affairs firm owned by Rick Berman, who lobbies for the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries.
ErinPDX, re-syncopating
Just the tuning alone would be pretty drastic. An octave at the ratio of 1.5. Though I have heard some singers who approach it.
these industry-funded think tansk are a constant source of humor.
They're not think tanks.
They're wank tanks.
Lou probally would pitch and catch, both.
For the record, I would prefer increased cash payments to the poor, such as a much-expanded earned income tax credit (EITC) or a more general negative income tax.
For the record, I would prefer increased cash payments to the poor, such as a much-expanded earned income tax credit (EITC) or a more general negative income tax.
Cat blogging (homepage)
Tiger posing with a picture of himself as a kitten sitting in a laundry basket.
EU Draft Report on Renditions.
Well, apparently "dave" pulled it out of SOMEONE'S bowels.
"dave's" source is the Employment Policies Institute, which SourceWatch describes ...
The Employment Policies Institute is one of several front groups created by Berman & Co., a Washington, DC public affairs firm owned by Rick Berman, who lobbies for the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries. EPI, registered as a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, has has been widely quoted in news stories regarding minimum wage issues, and although a few of those stories have correctly described it as a "think tank financed by business," most stories fail to provide any identification that would enable readers to identify the vested interests behind its pronouncements. Instead, it is usually described exactly the way it describes itself, as a "non-profit research organization dedicated to studying public policy issues surrounding employment growth" that "focuses on issues that affect entry-level employment." In reality, EPI's mission is to keep the minimum wage low so Berman's clients can continue to pay their workers as little as possible.
blogwhoring Friday Opera
Anna Netrebko singing Musetta's aria
from Puccini's La Boheme.
I could have lived my whole life without the image of Juan playing "hide the chorizo" with Lou.
It's very windy.
does anyone know how one can work to get the "unlawful internet gambling enforcement act of 2006 repealed? it was tacked on to a bill that was a must pass bill by the republicans because, to them it would be wrong if anyone had any fun of any kind.
DHS official admits taking bribes to fake documents
A federal immigration official pleaded guilty Thursday to receiving more than $600,000 in bribes for falsifying documents for illegal immigrants.
Robert Schofield, 57, could face 25 years in federal prison when he is sentenced in February.
He pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Virginia, to issuing fraudulent documents to at least 184 illegal immigrants who falsely received U.S. citizenship.
Schofield, a former supervisor for the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service, was arrested in June.
So what happens to the immigrants?
Consider yourself busted, dave.
Well, apparently "dave" pulled it out of SOMEONE'S bowels.
left rev
"Expert" bowels.
McCaffrey wants to give the Iraqis attack helicopters and other stuff.
Why don't we just give them nuclear weapons and be done with it?
Lou Dobbs is right about one thing though. Illegal immigration is depressing wages of low and semi skilled workers in this country. When you have a crappy minimum wage that is the lowest in real terms since it has been instituted and under the table workers to compete with, who don't cost anything for unemployment, form filling, social security, disability insurance it makes it hard to get a living wage if you have low skill sets. Lou Dobbs problem is the brown people hate. It's the rich white people who can afford to pay better who are the problem. Cheap ass bastards.
HA!
both Flory and Catalexis shall pay me my tribute in cola! Forsooth!
There are something like four different daves here.
There are 2080 work hrs. per yr. for a full time job. Each $1.00 hrs. wage goes up ='s $2080.00 per yr.
Has poison-gate implicated Big Time yet? You know it's only a matter of time.
It's very windy.
HoneyBearKelly? | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:12 pm | #
And thundery.
Well, crap. I owe bas a coke.
Just got my power back.
We had a blackout here for a little while.
According to the Right Guide, funders of EPI have included the John M. Olin Foundation and the Claude R. Lamb Charitable Foundation
Nice try, fuckwads.
For the record, I would prefer increased cash payments to the poor, such as a much-expanded earned income tax credit (EITC) or a more general negative income tax.
dave
You RADICAL you. Paying people a wage that accurately reflects the cost of living, honors their committment to society as a working member, and permits some possibility of hope and improvement of the their condition just doesn't go far enough for you.
/snark
The UK is more rational than the US re: copyright law...
For the record, I would prefer increased cash payments to the poor, such as a much-expanded earned income tax credit (EITC) or a more general negative income tax.
I'd prefer the confiscation of every last fucking dime parasites like this Rick Berman character own, then putting his worthless ass to work at a McDonald's drive up and see how much he enjoys actually working for the miminum wage.
It's very windy.
HoneyBearKelly |
It's so windy here, my haloscan window just blew all the way across my page.
Tweety, do you notice how this new guy allows his guests to finish their sentences? Should you ever regain your job (which I'm rooting against), you might take this into consideration.
MCcaffrey says it's completely hopeless.
His answer? "We have to stay for 10 years and hope things get better."
If I heard him right.
from wiki :"The Employment Policies Institute is one of several front groups created by Berman & Co., a Washington, DC public affairs firm owned by Rick Berman, who lobbies for the restaurant, hotel, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries. EPI, registered as a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization, has has been widely quoted in news stories regarding minimum wage issues, and although a few of those stories have correctly described it as a "think tank financed by business," most stories fail to provide any identification that would enable readers to identify the vested interests behind its pronouncements. Instead, it is usually described exactly the way it describes itself, as a "non-profit research organization dedicated to studying public policy issues surrounding employment growth" that "focuses on issues that affect entry-level employment." In reality, EPI's mission is to keep the minimum wage low so Berman's clients can continue to pay their workers as little as possible.
EPI also owns the internet domain names to MinimumWage.com and LivingWage.com, a website that attempts to portray the idea of a living wage for workers as some kind of insidious conspiracy. "Living wage activists want nothing less than a national living wage," it warns (as though there is something wrong with paying employees enough that they can afford to eat and pay rent)."
I took a thorough look around that EPI website, and now I feel like I need a long, hot shower.
¡Señor Loud Obbs, por favor, esqueal like el porko grandé!
So, a bunch of you had this before I got it. Man I just love a sharp group of people.
epionline is a restaurant industry front.
I'd prefer the confiscation of every last fucking dime parasites like this Rick Berman character own, then putting his worthless ass to work at a McDonald's drive up and see how much he enjoys actually working for the miminum wage.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
This works for me too.
The Iraq was my fault and I take full responsibility for it.
-
heh its probably not a smart idea by Blair to accuse the guy who supplies Europe which much of her gas of poisoning 
Britain's own gas supplies are running out and soon we'll have to rely on Russia to keep us warm, scary thought no?
How so?
left rev
Well, so the experts say.
dave
Find me two experts who agree on anything.
Until they start making experts in an infallible model, I pretty much think they are as prone to be wrong as anyone else.
Has poison-gate implicated Big Time yet? You know it's only a matter of time.
cosmosis
they call him polonium out in the corporate quail fields
and still no cats...or even gypsies
I've got cat paws and dogs. Regular catblogging later.
Gergen looks very unhappy.
His precious war is not going well.
For the record, I would prefer increased cash payments to the poor, such as a much-expanded earned income tax credit (EITC) or a more general negative income tax.
dave
Hard to pay the rent or buy the kids food with the EITC.....
Got the first fire of the season going - nothing like the scent of mesquite in the cold air to make things seem right.
.
It's the rich white people who can afford to pay better who are the problem. Cheap ass bastards.
trifecta
Yep. Start putting the employers away in pound-em prisons for 10 years a pop, and that problem will disappear quite quickly.
Unfortunately, such legislation, when proposed, has always been blocked...by Republicans.
Consider yourself busted, dave.
catalexis
Why do these cretins even TRY on this comment board?
They have to know they'll be pwned in less than 15 minutes on their bullshit.
jdw owes ME a coke, because i would have posted before him if Hell-oScum wasn't such a fucker.
I'm catblogging.
The pic is not bright but it's very meta -- it's a pic within a pic.
Hi Tena
I'm not an expert, but I play one on TV.
Barndog, fuckin' dirty hippie | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:13 pm | #
A veritable storm of carbonated beverages!
There are something like four different daves here.
thackeray
Dave? Dave's not here, man.
Well, I think we knew this wasn't "trademark" Dave -- are the two more?
Berman & Co.: "Nonprofit" Hustlers for the Food & Booze Biz
by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber
Restaurant-industry lobbyist Rick Berman says there are two things that set his firm, Berman & Co., apart from others in the trade. The first is that "we always have a knife in our teeth." The other is that "we don't chase the smaller issues. . . . Our work is restricted to and focused on issues that affect shareholder value. These big issues include labor costs as they relate to health insurance and the minimum wage, achieving operator sales increases, and tax rates as they are affected in particular by payroll and excise taxes."
Gergen says #1 problem is there is not enough bipartisanship.
Rats and Cats!
Warning: not for the squeamish.
Tweety, do you notice how this new guy allows his guests to finish their sentences? Should you ever regain your job (which I'm rooting against), you might take this into consideration.
Lime Rickey
No shit. His show usually has the same discussion dynamics as three 7 year olds in the backseat of the car.
OT: Litvinenko contact tests positive for radiation
An Italian terrorism expert who met the Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko on the day he was allegedly poisoned has also tested positive for the radioactive isotope polonium 210, it emerged today.
Mario Scaramella, who has been in hiding since Mr Litvinenko died, met the former spy in a London sushi restaurant just hours before he fell ill.
Experts believe the fact that the academic, a contact of Mr Litvinenko, has also tested positive for polonium 210 indicates that the poison was delivered at the restaurant.
Need some tape to hold that window down, Gomez?
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
::matthew
Mexicans have more sense.
.
I mean, gratuitously flogging the ACORN bishop right there next to all that claptrap about how healthcare and higher wages will destroy the American economy? It's like they're trying to look like a bunch of serious economists arguing for the benefit of the poor, but they just can't help themselves from harping on some other rightard talking points.
It's the rich white people who can afford to pay better who are the problem
All those plantations, orchards and farms out in Caliofrnia are owned by Rethugs who hire Mexican specifically to get out of paying reasonably. There wouldn't be an illegal left in the country if we went to exclusive subdsivisions with police raids and fined executives one hundred thousand dollars for each illegal we found working for them.
Conversely, Mexico is poor as a direct result of its abusive younger brother to the North, and if we were to allow them to develop differently, not as many of them would need to get over here. Why does Dobbs talk about immigration of all subjects as if it were not a geopolitical issue but a racial deficiency like the "deathculture" of the Arabs or the "laziness and bad parenting" of the Blacks? It is because if Lou Dobbs ever put two and two together and connected symptoms to real causes, he'd die in a car accident.
Rats and Cats!
Warning: not for the squeamish.
charley | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:17 pm | #
ewwww!
I would like to see some cats...
Consider yourself busted, dave.
catalexis
Why do these cretins even TRY on this comment board?
They have to know they'll be pwned in less than 15 minutes on their bullshit.
It was an idea that they came up with at the think wank. Was "dave" paid more than min wage for his efforts?
Until they start making experts in an infallible model, I pretty much think they are as prone to be wrong as anyone else.
Tena
If by "expert" you mean "someone who has declared themselves to be experts because they know the verbiage" then yes.
Real experts, people who spend years quietly slogging in the field to accumlate knowledge, generally aren't so bad.
Need some tape to hold that window down, Gomez?
Barndog, fuckin' dirty hippie
Thanks.
MCcaffrey says it's completely hopeless.
His answer? "We have to stay for 10 years and hope things get better."
If I heard him right.
If it's completely hopeless, why stay and lose more lives all around?
WE are the catalyst for the violence. If we leave, at least the Iraqis will have a chance. If we stay, they have no chance at all.
I am such a sucker for the sad face look on a dog -- it's just heartbreaking, I'll give them my food, my pillows, anything to make that sad look stop.
It's very windy.
We have a high wind advisory until 11am. T-storms, but it looks like the rain's turning to snow. Yay!
Gergen says #1 problem is there is not enough bipartisanship.
Culture of Truth
And I bet he said it in a muted whisper.
Just got my power back
I know the wind is picking up here, and with all the ice on the lines, trees and such... it could be an interesting night.
Good thing I have lots of propane for the camper.
Ooooh, I went to the Universal Restaurant Supply yesterday and found all kinds of wonderful things. Double aluminium pie plates! Quiche pans with removable bottoms! BIG muffin tins Ladles! Such fun. Who knew?
.
my mum sez that George prefers to stay indoors, he does not seemed fussed about going outside.
Heidi enjoys it more.
be sure to check out my Sleek Kitty Cats
Why do these cretins even TRY on this comment board?
They have to know they'll be pwned in less than 15 minutes on their bullshit.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
eh, they prolly don't. I doubt dave spends any time here and has no clue how we operate. so he was hanging out at wingertardline and somebody over there linked to EPI and ol' dave thought he go show the dirty fucking hippies a thing or two....
either that or he also works for rick berman. which means berman's clients really are idiots for paying someone that stoopit.
From downstairs:
I'm ambivalent about the idea of manunkind going pioneering into space. There are two complementary themes on the question, I opine off the top of my head: utopian/dystopian; optimistic/pessimistic; extroverted/introverted.
I've enjoyed the "why not?" side of the question from the original "Star Trek" series to Ken MacLeod, Moonboo's favorite. Remember Roddenberry's seminal concept of a "Wagon Train to the Stars"? I think that's particularly apropos as a symbol of the virtues of pioneering-- the challenge and wonder of conquering the unknown and building a new life in a new land. It can be quite an exhiliarating... enterprise.
I thought of CS Lewis when I scanned Woody's not unsurprising view of one planet per sentient species, if I may beg the question. Lewis' space trilogy involves, in part, technologically advanced intelligent but greedy and shortsighted men who venture into space (Mars, Venus) to stake claims to territory and plunder the place. In the books, Lewis attacks the impulse to propagate beyond Earth on two grounds: every living thing has a life span, and it is folly and hubris to try to cheat or defeat death. And exercising such hubris is generally accompanied by bad or corruptible motives. To Lewis, at least as expressed in the philosophy in the trilogy, it is not OK to blunder in where angels fear to tread.
So if one looks at space colonization as modern man's typical response to reaching new territory, one can easily say that we ought to stay put until we're sure we've gotten that Conquistador/Crusader/Manifest Destiny bug out of our souls.
Rats and Cats!
Warning: not for the squeamish.
charley
Pshaw! That cat is strictly an amateur. I did in over 150 mice today (cringe).
heh its probably not a smart idea by Blair to accuse the guy who supplies Europe which much of her gas of poisoning
Yeah, and also as it's not true, but already Putin has punished countries for forgetting who distributes the energy, like Ukraine.
OT: Litvinenko contact tests positive for radiation
Radiation poisoning always was the instrument of choice in the old soviet... not as clumsy or random as a invasion and occupation....
I am such a sucker for the sad face look on a dog -- it's just heartbreaking, I'll give them my food, my pillows, anything to make that sad look stop.
Joe Lieberman won re-election because of people like you!
/snark
I am such a sucker for the sad face look on a dog -- it's just heartbreaking, I'll give them my food, my pillows, anything to make that sad look stop.
catalexis
And you have to ask.. just who "domesticated" whom?
Little Brøther
The aliens could be just waiting for us to stick our heads out.
Then they're gonna eat us.
Flory! Glad you're here, take a look at this kitten babe!
http://www.dailykitten.com/archi...guinness-
2.html
Well, I'm not a Dave.
All those plantations, orchards and farms out in Caliofrnia are owned by Rethugs who hire Mexican specifically to get out of paying reasonably.
Yup. Here in Oregon, Saxton the Repub loser for Governor hired illegals at his farm, then tried to play dumb when he was outed.
Gergen says #1 problem is there is not enough bipartisanship.
Culture of Truth
It is to laugh.
Funny how that is a problem all of a sudden.
Well, I'm not a Dave.
David (Austin Tx)
Dave? Dave's not here, man.
Little Brøther | 12.01.06 - 7:20 pm | #
beautifully put as ever
Then they're gonna eat us.
Gomez
To serve mankind
Okay, must put the children to bed.
Did I mention I'm going out tonight?
To see this band and this band!!
Did I mention that I think the last time I got a babysitter and went out was when my band played October 26th??
Flory! Glad you're here, take a look at this kitten babe!
More company for little gracie.....
I am such a sucker for the sad face look on a dog
Dog, cat...just about any animal in need.
there is a Dave in this house who room is opposite mine.
complete slob, never washes his dishes and lives off frozen dinners.
just a gross person.
Gergen says #1 problem is there is not enough bipartisanship.
Culture of Truth
NOW there's not enough bipartisanship.
Of course, bipartisanship was not even on the radar on November 6th.
Dog, cat...just about any animal in need.
Barndog
the dog does not "need" my bed.
Cat in a Box
http://static.flickr.com/105/
311...d7fe6fc1a_b.jpg
I can't resist petting kitty cats I see out on the streets, some run away but majority always follow me and enjoy a good rub around the ears.
To serve mankind
JR, kerosene and a match
Wait! It's a cookbook!
Moonboo: my mancunian friend just sent me for my birthday a book you might have read in classes or someting: "Mmpire, how Britain made the modern world" by Niall Ferguson. Any good? I'm not the type who fawns over british imperialism, so i have some doubts...
Did I mention that I think the last time I got a babysitter and went out was when my band played October 26th??
whiskeyina, scribbler
You didn't ask me?
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Dr. Barmpot - is there a link for that nice store you found? Somewhere I could get a catalog?
there is a Dave in this house who room is opposite mine.
Dave? Dave's not here, man.
I love the way dogs smile. Mouth agape, just kind of looking around, taking in their kingdom.
I'm not worried about our use of this solar system. We'll be stuck here for hundreds of years yet at least. I can't imagine our being able to reach more than a dozen nearby stars in the next thousand years. If we're still alive then, we must have learned something.
Radiation poisoning always was the instrument of choice in the old soviet... not as clumsy or random as a invasion and occupation....
Pootie poot being something of a traditionalist, well, you see where we're going with this...
the dog does not "need" my bed.
JR, kerosene and a match
Dog doesn't think you do either.
Standoff.
I'm 53 years old and have lived in NYC all my life.
We have a tornado warning here.
First time I've heard of one in NYC ever.
whiskeyina - have fun tonight then!
the dog does not "need" my bed.
I'm not outweighed, but am outnumbered by the Dogz and Punkz. I always end up with my ass hanging off the queen-sized bed.
Double aluminium pie plates! Quiche pans with removable bottoms! BIG muffin tins Ladles! Such fun. Who knew?
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Somebody had a good day!!!!!
How come you did not find out about such places earlier? They are much fun indeed!
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You didn't ask me?
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:24 pm | #
Um... super double pretty please???
We have a tornado warning here.
First time I've heard of one in NYC ever.
Clearly you offended God.
I always end up with my ass hanging off the queen-sized bed.
...EXcellent!
NTodd: how did the babies surgery went?
I always end up with my ass hanging off the queen-sized bed.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
How'd you get a queen-sized bed behind the Tastee Freeze without getting caught?
my cat wob't let me type
Moonboo: my mancunian friend just sent me for my birthday a book you might have read in classes or someting: "Mmpire, how Britain made the modern world" by Niall Ferguson. Any good? I'm not the type who fawns over british imperialism, so i have some doubts...
Plum P | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:24 pm | #
ah Niall Ferguson, an apologist for imperialism and IMHO a wanker but its really up to you
perhaps these two posts might help - Priya Gopal on Empire & Niall Ferguson. and Niall Ferguson's Latest Counterfactual.
I'm not outweighed, but am outnumbered by the Dogz and Punkz. I always end up with my ass hanging off the queen-sized bed.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
That's cause you are doggie and pussy whipped and do not know how to stand up for your rights.
Niall Ferguson. Any good?
Niall Ferguson ought to share a cell with David (there that name is again!) Irving. His thesis is that imperialism really wasn't that bad after all when you think about it. You know, cleaning up the Sepoy Mutiny, the British Army forced prisoners to lick the bricks of an execution wall clean before killing them. If only people had that kind of resolve in Iraq.
Dave would rather have the taxpayers subsidize the working poor than the companies they work for. typical reNAMBLAcan behavior.
Yeah, and also as it's not true, but already Putin has punished countries for forgetting who distributes the energy, like Ukraine.
thackeray
Hmm. That's an intriguing bit of data. It seems that the only thing we can be sure of in this stoy is that there are no good guys.
Clearly you offended God.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
You wouldn't expect that from NYC, either.
Clearly you offended God.
...just standing here in the rain, talkin' to myself.
whiskeyina, have a great time!
Wow HBK, a Tornado Warning??
That means one has been spotted.
Tornado hitting NYC would not be pretty.
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Heheh, no, Lieberman doesn't count. the hound expression on a person doesn't move me so much. Yes, I know, I'm the one who got tamed. But they often want so little...
Mmpire, how Britain made the modern world" by Niall Ferguson. Any good? I'm not the type who fawns over british imperialism, so i have some doubts...
Plum P
BAD! BAD! BAD! EVIL! NON COMPOS! DO NOT DEAL WITH! BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD......
Do not deal with this clown.
Please? 'Cause I know a lot of stuff and what I know won't hurt you?
.
It seems that the only thing we can be sure of in this stoy is that there are no good guys.
No, but the oligarchs are bad enough that anyone fighting them is worth a look, like Winston Churchill suddenly becoming less than terrible in contrast to Hitler.
NTodd: how did the babies surgery went?
Their balls are in the garbage now, and the Punkz are doing fine, thanks!
Shit.
I don't know how to act.
Should I close the windows?
Should I go downstairs?
Kazakhstan seeks higher gas transit price for Russia
ASTANA, November 30 (RIA Novosti) - Kazakhstan is in talks with Russian energy giant Gazprom [RTS: GAZP] on raising its transit charge for Central Asian gas pumped via its territory to Russia by 45%, Kazakh energy minister said Thursday.
Kazakhstan currently charges $1.1 per 1,000 cubic meters per 100 kilometers for natural gas flowing through its pipelines to Russia from gas-rich Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, a price that it wants to raise by 50 cents.
"Preliminarily, we intend to raise the price to $1.6," Bakhtykozha Izmukhambetov said.
Transit of Uzbek and Turkmen gas via Kazakhstan to Russia totals 45-50 billion cu m annually.
Tornado hitting NYC would not be pretty.
The tornado is is grave danger.
Got inspired listening to Iggy Anthology: This year I was 51, didn't have much fun. Next year gonna be 52, oh my and boo hoo.
We have a tornado warning here.
First time I've heard of one in NYC ever.
Not to worry. How many trailer parks are there in NYC?
A beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely to be in a family earning more than three times the poverty line than in a poor family. In total, only 12.7 percent of the benefits from a federal minimum wage increase to $7.25 an hour would go to poor families. In contrast, 63 percent of benefits would go to families earning more than twice the poverty line and 42 percent would go to families earning more than three times the poverty line.
dave
How so?
left rev
If so, please raise it to $15 quickly.
If I stay out of Fast Food Joints I should be able to retire in about 4 years.
Off for dinner.
Maybe I'll be back, maybe not. Depends on what the wife has in store for me.
Chow. Haha
Not to worry. How many trailer parks are there in NYC?
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 12.01.06 - 7:30 pm |
Food carts...
"Mmpire, how Britain made the modern world" by Niall Ferguson. Any good? I'm not the type who fawns over british imperialism, so i have some doubts...
Plum P
Well, it's true, just as the Roman Empire reshaped the world, and the Mongolian one did before that. Just describing it isn't necessarily a value judgement. Like all empires, it wrought good and bad.
like Winston Churchill suddenly becoming less than terrible in contrast to Hitler.
As we learned in A Christmas Story: you're either a bully, a toady, or one of the hapless rabble of victims.
whiskeyina, I don't know whereabouts you hail from, but I've seen photos of your delightful girls, and they are welcome to play with my brood any old time.
Should I close the windows?
Should I go downstairs?
HoneyBearKelly
1. Get a flashlight.
2. Get a battery powered radio.
3. Don't worry.
Dana Milbank's face is getting fatter.
Maybe he should run.
A beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely blah blah blah
Is there anything you have to say that challenges the idea that the poor would be better off with more money?
Thanks for the advice on Niall Ferguson. I just saw that title and i knew i wouldn't like it. Now i know...won't waste my time on it and I still have DWD's novel to read anyway!
Should I close the windows?
Should I go downstairs?
The usual advice is to SHUT OFF ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES!!!!
Dog doesn't think you do either.
Standoff.
flory
I have opposable thumbs.
If he wants those dog treats he's going to have to compromise.
OT: Sun Shines On November
Britons have been shedding their gloves, scarves and hats in favour of t-shirts and shorts for the warmest autumn on record in central England.
This November has proven to be the sunniest ever recorded and one of the mildest in three years.
Hibernation is on hold for Britons who are more used to wrapping up, turning up the central heating and staying indoors at this time of year.
However, temperature records provided by the Met Office and MeteoGroup UK have confirmed this autumn has been the warmest since records began in 1659.
The average autumn temperature in 2006 was 12.6 C. The previous highest for the same period was 11.8 C, recorded in 1730.
3. Don't worry.
Gomez
Don't worry needlessly.
I don't know how to act.
My friend Mike and I would always play Head-to-Head football on those stupid little game things with the LEDs (in the age before Gameboys).
The subway strikes me as a safe place in NYC during a tornado.
Then again...
Do not deal with this clown.
Please? 'Cause I know a lot of stuff and what I know won't hurt you?
.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
AH, one of those. A UCT Allan Bloom.
I just took a dump and it looked like Auggy.
There's a tornado warning in December in NYC? That's just weird.
HBK,
If you have a battery powered radio, grab it and place it in an interior room without windows on the first floor (bathroom?).
If you have access to a basement even better. I wouldn't panic, but keep listening to a radio or watching the tv for updates.
If you hear something that sounds like a freight train, head to the safe spot.
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AAAAARRRRRGGHHHH
UNDERCLOTHED BRITONS
GLOBAL WARMING HAS GONE TOO FAR
MAKE IT STOP BEFORE THE GERMANS START TAKING THINGS OFF--
Corruption: the 'second insurgency' costing $4bn a year
One third of rebuilding contracts under criminal investigation
The Iraqi government is in danger of being brought down by the wholesale smuggling of the nation's oil and other forms of corruption that together represent a "second insurgency", according to a senior US official. Stuart Bowen, who has been in charge of auditing Iraq's faltering reconstruction since 2004, said corruption had reached such levels that it threatened the survival of the state.
"There is a huge smuggling problem. It is the No 1 issue," Mr Bowen told the Guardian. The pipelines that are meant to take the oil north have been blown up, so the only way to export it is by road. "That leaves it vulnerable to smuggling," he said, as truckers sell their cargoes on the black market.
The subway strikes me as a safe place in NYC during a tornado.
Then again...
Gomez
Mugging is more likely.
Hi Tena
I'm not an expert, but I play one on TV.
left rev
Hi left rev - I wasn't talking about you, of course.
How are ya?
I just took a dump and it looked like Auggy.
Cooper Anderson
Do you think trolls are gonna line up for miles to worship it?
I have opposable thumbs.
If he wants those dog treats he's going to have to compromise.
JR, kerosene and a match
sound's like an invitation to an arm's race. sorta like Mutually Assured Sleep Deprivation.
However, I do think that sanctions have a place in the negotiations.
like Winston Churchill suddenly becoming less than terrible in contrast to Hitler.
NTodd is worse than Hitler, but is slimmer than Churchill.
Mugging is more likely.
pie
You're right. Stay put.
No, but the oligarchs are bad enough that anyone fighting them is worth a look, like Winston Churchill suddenly becoming less than terrible in contrast to Hitler.
There never seems to be an end to the lesser of two weevils thing, does there?
From Moon's link:
32. Stresses that at least 1 245 flights operated by the CIA have flown into the European airspace or stopped over at European airports;
33. Regrets that European countries have been relinquishing their control over their airspace and airports by admitting flights operated by the CIA which, on some occasions, were being used for extraordinary rendition or the illegal transportation of detainees;
34. Is concerned, in particular, that the blanket overflight and stopover clearances granted to CIA-operated aircraft may have been based, inter alia, on the NATO Agreement on the implementation of Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, adopted on 4 October 2001;
35. Recalls that Article 1 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation (the Chicago Convention) sets out the principle that every State has complete and exclusive sovereignty over the airspace above its territory;
36. Emphasises that the CIA has been using civil aviation rules to bypass the legal obligations for state aircraft, including those operated by the military and the police, as provided in the Chicago Convention; recalls that Article 4 of the Chicago Convention provides that: “Each contracting State agrees not to use civil aviation for any purpose inconsistent with the aims of this Convention”;
Off to the Hague!!
I don't know how to act.
Strip poker and Leinenkugel beer is the norm in Wisconsin
If you hear something that sounds like a freight train, head to the safe spot.
But if she lives near public transit, it might be hard to tell!
Our electricity is underground so I don't think we'll have a blackout but I'll turn off stuff even though this building is grounded.
BAD! BAD! BAD! EVIL! NON COMPOS! DO NOT DEAL WITH! BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD, BAD......
Do not deal with this clown.
Please? 'Cause I know a lot of stuff and what I know won't hurt you?
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:29 pm |
So, tell us how you really feel.
Richard: watchig the Liberals conf. much? I just changed the channel after 10 minutes of Dion.
Allo, Moonbats! Once a month, women should do a breast self-exam to check for breast cancer. It's easy. Here's how.
If he wants those dog treats he's going to have to compromise.
JR, kerosene and a match
He has teeth. And knows where you keep your favorite shoes.
As we learned in A Christmas Story: you're either a bully, a toady, or one of the hapless rabble of victims.
Darryl - or, in the parlance of Matt Stone & Trey Parker in that scene from Team America, there are dicks, pussies, and assholes. I don't remember the entire rant, but it was something about how the dicks are always fucking everybody, and the pussies are always getting fucked, and the assholes just shit all over everything. Or something like that.
Hi left rev - I wasn't talking about you, of course.
How are ya?
Tena
Been up and down this holiday season so far. Mostly down, but there's always some kind of hope.
Its just good to hang out around here and breath deep of the fresh blue air in my county.
There never seems to be an end to the lesser of two weevils thing, does there?
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 12.01.06 - 7:36 pm |
Welcome to adulthood. Have you received your sexual orientation? EVERYTHING EITHER POTENTIALLY HURTS OR CAN BE DISEASED.
The Iraqi government is in danger of being brought down by the wholesale smuggling of the nation's oil and other forms of corruption that together represent a "second insurgency", according to a senior US official. Stuart Bowen, who has been in charge of auditing Iraq's faltering reconstruction since 2004, said corruption had reached such levels that it threatened the survival of the state.
Well, gosh, no one could have ever forseen this happening, now could they?
Oh, wait, General Shinseki did...my bad.
NTodd is worse than Hitler, but is slimmer than Churchill.
I drink as much as Churchill, but don't smoke nearly enough cigars, damn it.
But if she lives near public transit, it might be hard to tell!
NTodd
I do.
Right next to the Q train.
Its just good to hang out around here and breath deep of the fresh blue air in my county.
left rev
I'm sorry you've been down - anything I can do?
Pussies don't like dicks, because dicks fuck pussies; but dicks also fuck assholes, and if they didn't, assholes would shit all over everything.
Shit.
I don't know how to act.
Should I close the windows?
Should I go downstairs?
HoneyBearKelly
Are you sure it is a warning, and not a watch? A watch means the conditions are favorable for a tornado.
However, listen for a freight train. That is a sure sign of a tornado.
If you feel that one is coming your way, head towards a central room, if you have a basement, go there. If you have a bathtub, take a mattress with you, lay down in the tub, and cover it with the mattress.
The thing about a tornado, is if it is coming to get you, you will not be able to avoid it, so it is best to protect yourself, rather than try and run away.
Once a month, women should do a breast self-exam to check for breast cancer. It's easy. Here's how.
Once a month, hetero men should go check out the breast self-exam posts. It's easy. Here's how.
Right next to the Q train.
HoneyBearKelly
They actually have a Q train?
kei & yuri are leaving to review and kvetch over the major cultural contributions from new Who and the Gaius Baltar Show. Love to you all. All subsequent hate messages from similar nyms are trolls.
Babysitting blogging again--this time with a baby giggling and cooing over Big Bird.
(You know I love my granddaughter when I agree to watch anything with Muppets in it)
Just want to say how good it feels to be represented in the Senate by someone who hates Bush as much as I do. And he irritated George Will. I am proud of my Senator.
I love the fact that the one member of this conversation who has memorized the dicks, pussies, and assholes rant from Team America is "thackery".
Thank you, that was a good one.
Is there anything you have to say that challenges the idea that the poor would be better off with more money?
Cuts right through the BS. Come over here and sit by me.
I drink as much as Churchill, but don't smoke nearly enough cigars, damn it.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
Add donuts to your diet and you might start looking like a portly statesmen of questionable morals.
The $2 question: Weak dollar is good for visitors to US, but outlook for world economy is bleak
Transatlantic travellers hoping to cash in on a $2 pound for the first time in 14 years should enjoy the good times while they last, because a tumbling dollar could start an economic whirlwind.
Sterling hit its highest level against the dollar since September 1992 for the second day in a row, with little sign of obstacles to the magic $2 level. At one point yesterday a pound was worth $1.9848 on the open market.
"Two dollars is a certainty," said Neil Mellor, a currency strategist at the Bank of New York office in London. He said the crucial test would be $2.002, its peak the pound reached on 9 September 1992 before its ejection from the exchange rate mechanism on Black Wednesday. "If it does, there's a possibility it would catapulted up and there's a lot of space for it to rise," he said.
HBK,
according to weather underground there is currently a Tornado watch, which means the conditions are faverable for the formation of a tornado, but does not guarranty that one is or will be formed.
A Tornado warning means that a tornado has been sighted.
Make certain which it is, and if the former, just prepare, but don't make any real moves until you are sure.
You may also wish to occassionally check the sky to the southwest, though it must be dark by now.....
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Is there anything you have to say that challenges the idea that the poor would be better off with more money?
Hell. They'd just raise the prices. See.
Might as well stay poor.
/sarcasm.
Babysitting blogging again--this time with a baby giggling and cooing over Big Bird.
Hi, how's Maddy? Already chowing down on grandma's good cooking?
NTodd--are you volunteering to perform the breast exams?
I drink as much as Churchill, but don't smoke nearly enough cigars, damn it.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
I smoke a cigar about once every 4 yrs. just to remind myself why I don't.
Thanks for the advice on Niall Ferguson. I just saw that title and i knew i wouldn't like it. Now i know...won't waste my time on it and I still have DWD's novel to read anyway!
Plum P
Imperialism? Go read this and then send me the 25cents to which I'm entitled Okay? Ferguson is an ass. And, maybe, first of the year, the Canadians are gonna give me a grant! Again....
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Yes Gomez there is a Q train.
It's the Brighton Beach line and goes to Coney Island if you ever have the desire to go there.
Add donuts to your diet and you might start looking like a portly statesmen of questionable morals.
Posh.
In the age of the Intertubes, it's cheetos FTW, bay-bee.
neither liberals* or the right think 'ooooooh is there a structural reason why that person is poor, they think ooh lets give them some cash and that'll be fine keep 'em quiet
*(I am talking about liberals in the UK).
corruption had reached such levels that it threatened the survival of the state.
funny how dat works: everything that the coalition hasn't stolen, the entrepeneurial Iraqis are workin on stealin...
not a word about bechtel/halliburton/GE?
course, it's them shifty, crooked levanters that's the culprits, right?
sheesh...
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Speaking of weather, there were the MOST amazing huge, mountainous clouds in Arlington, tonight. Some were really dark grey and some were white and they were rolling across each other and really looking like something out of movie or something. Just amazing.
Yes Gomez there is a Q train.
It's the Brighton Beach line and goes to Coney Island if you ever have the desire to go there.
HoneyBearKelly
Not a lot of subway trains here in Pittsburgh. We just got A and B I think.
Hardball:
Does she dislike Obama because his middle name is "Hussein"?
In a word: "Yes."
I'm sorry you've been down - anything I can do?
Tena
Thanks for the concern-you're a sweetie.
It's mostly down due to the economy and finances, is all. Mr. left rev is stil looking for work, doing day labor when he can, and having to interview for part time minimum wage service jobs. He actually had to pawn some tools a couple days ago to get cash for food (gap between paycheck and bills gets wider every month). We're covered right now, but its terribly frustrating, and we're still in a much more solvent position than many of the families coming into the church for help right now. Its pretty sad. "Food insecurity" sucks.
But things will be looking up, I've got confidence in Mr. left rev., no matter how little faith I have in the government.
Boy, that was probably more information than anyone wanted.
Hecate--not quite yet, although when I do frost the Christmas cookies, I'll let her taste the frosting. Right now, in her mind, biter biscuits rock.
politics is a game of the owning classes - I mean it's rigged, fixed parameters.
policies are generated and implemented for the benefit of the state-capitalist machine, class interests etc.... at least in the UK.
Oh, that's Kate O'Beirne.
Key word in her vocabulary: "Hopefully."
Why is Kate O'Beirne allowed on teevee?
Add donuts to your diet and you might start looking like a portly statesmen of questionable morals.
Richard
First we have to shave his head.
neither liberals* or the right think 'ooooooh is there a structural reason why that person is poor, they think ooh lets give them some cash and that'll be fine keep 'em quiet
In the US, it's all explained Calvinistically.
And the structure to make sure it stays that way is constantly reinforced.
.there were the MOST amazing huge, mountainous clouds in Arlington, tonight.
I guess those giant cumulonimbus clouds would explain how there could be a torado watch on the middle Atlantic coast tonight. But I must say that in my 17 years growing up in the DC area, I don't remember a single tornado watch in December. That stuff always happened in spring, when it was much warmer.
You may also wish to occassionally check the sky to the southwest, though it must be dark by now.....
the lightning will provide backdrop..spent yrs. of spring camping in the Flint Hills of Ks., I've seen some doosies.
I must say that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of a tornado in NYC.
I don't suppose there's any reason why it couldn't happen, but it just sounds so weird.
imperialism? Go read this and then send me the 25cents to which I'm entitled Okay? Ferguson is an ass. And, maybe, first of the year, the Canadians are gonna give me a grant! Again....
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:43 pm
Our library has that, it's on my list.
pie - because audience testing revealed a real hunger for more Mr. Ed, and the original actor is dead.
Why is Kate O'Beirne allowed on teevee?
For the same reason that George Will still writes for Pravda on the Potomac.
there have been mini tornadoes in Wales.
I must say that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of a tornado in NYC.
We had one in Pittsburgh in 1998. It hit Mt. Washington.
things will be looking up
Dear Left Rev,
Email me if you'd like a tarot reading. I hope things are lots better very soon.
its been a nice change not raining all the time in Swansea, it wears thin.
Gotta go put some food type stuff on the fambly.
Keep your heads down, New Yorkers. Stay safe.
Does she dislike Obama because his middle name is "Hussein"?
In a word: "Yes."
My father's brother, Adolf Benito Tojo M. also suffered throughout his life from a name-timing issue.
"Food insecurity" sucks.
I'd be happy to send you some food security, especially now.
I think God is punishing us for all the nice weather we've had so far.
I must say that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of a tornado in NYC.
Just ignore all that Global Warming stuff; it has NOTHING to do with this.
There's a tornado warning in December in NYC? That's just weird.
blerb | 12.01.06 - 7:35 pm | #
It looks like NYC is under a watch while Litchefield County CT was under a warning until approximately now.
Thanks, Hecate. The last one you did for me was golden. I may just do that soon.
O left rev, I'm so sorry.
You're overdue for something good, sounds like. O dear.
because audience testing revealed a real hunger for more Mr. Ed, and the original actor is dead.
Jennifer
I love you.
a single tornado watch in December. That stuff always happened in spring, when it was much warmer.
I have the windows open right now and it's seventy degrees.
I'd be happy to send you some food security, especially now.
pie
Yeah me too.
...have a good weekend all.
I must say that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of a tornado in NYC.
Tornadoes are largely unique only to North America.
There are no parts of North America, I think east of the Rockies that are immune from them.
I do agree that it is excessively unusual for there to be a tornado watch this time of the year in NY, however, when I lived in Happy Valley (Penna) we had them year round (if not all that often)
Does she dislike Obama because his middle name is "Hussein"?
It's projection. When your middle name is "Skankho" you tend to be touchy.
Just outside in NYC.
My neighbors roses are in full bloom.
Niall Ferguson and Victor Davis Hanson, two hacks who found fame and fortune by fawning on fascists. The only reason Ferguson is at a real university and not the Hoover Institute is that the GOP elite/WASP Ascendancy is anglophile. Chicken Caesar is proud of his connection with the House of Windsor, but we understand HMQ is not amused.
The Bushes also descend (sponging as they go) from the House of Bourbon, of whom it was noted that "they forget nothing and they remember nothing."
Niall Ferguson and Victor Davis Hanson, two hacks who found fame and fortune by fawning on fascists. The only reason Ferguson is at a real university and not the Hoover Institute is that the GOP elite/WASP Ascendancy is anglophile. Chicken Caesar is proud of his connection with the House of Windsor, but we understand HMQ is not amused.
The Bushes also descend (sponging as they go) from the House of Bourbon, of whom it was noted that "they forget nothing and they remember nothing."
I don't suppose there's any reason why it couldn't happen, but it just sounds so weird.
We're living in weird times.
Why is Cindy Crowley allowed on TV?
- my god she is just - oooogly.
I have the windows open right now and it's seventy degrees.
Raining. Wind gusting.
Here comes the cold front.
Damm Evan Bayh is so fucking exciting.
Not Cindy - Candy Crowley.
Lebanese billionaire is drawn into BAE arms deal inquiry as 'second middleman for Saudis'
· Focus on Swiss accounts of Mohammad Safadi
· Politician is not a target of SFO investigation
Another billionaire Saudi middleman was named last night in the Serious Fraud Office's controversial Saudi arms deal inquiry, according to potential witnesses. The SFO is seeking information about any Swiss bank accounts belonging to Mohammad Safadi, a Lebanese politician who has acted for relatives of Prince Sultan, crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
Mr Safadi would not comment last night at his office in Beirut, where he holds the office of public works minister and also controls the Safadi Group. His property firms have received contracts from the British arms company BAE and have interests in office blocks in London worth £120m.
Tornados can occur anywhere that a strong cold wave of air collides with a warm moist area of air. It just so happens that in the US, this more frequently occurs in areas where the weather is dominated by the Gulf, which has exceptionally warm water and as a result both moderates temperatures and ups the humidity. This state is tornado alley, and there are always more of them in December than any other time of year. Anytime it gets really warm in December, it inevitably ends with bad storms, often including tornados.
You are all a wonderful community of people, and I thank you for your concern and sympathy. We're doing ok right now, getting some help from relatives and friends.
I'll be around later, probably, if I can get my spawn to relinquish the mac.
Why is Cindy Crowley allowed on TV?
- my god she is just - oooogly.
Tena
She's threatened to eat anyone that stops her.
Go read this and then send me the 25cents to which I'm entitled Okay?
Eep. $105???
Nice royalties.....
NTodd--are you volunteering to perform the breast exams?
Indeed. I'll throw in a massage for free, too.
ewwww!
Moonbootica, Screamadelica |
i warned you.
and blerb, that cat is not an amateur.
i feel the democrats could learn some important lessons from him. finish your rat, don't leave half eaten rats lying about. they regenerate.
Oooh, and thunder and lightning.
In December.
Next up: frogs.
Niall Ferguson and Victor Davis Hanson, two hacks who found fame and fortune by fawning on fascists. The only reason Ferguson is at a real university and not the Hoover Institute is that the GOP elite/WASP Ascendancy is anglophile. Chicken Caesar is proud of his connection with the House of Windsor, but we understand HMQ is not amused.
The Bushes also descend (sponging as they go) from the House of Bourbon, of whom it was noted that "they forget nothing and they remember nothing."
Lucy&Byron, Devil's Disciples | 12.01.06 - 7:50 pm
That, and he's photogenic and has a 'cute' accent. I've no doubt that most of those who book him for television appearance have any idea whether he's a decent or accurate historian. They do know that he's 'famous'.
There are no parts of North America, I think east of the Rockies that are immune from them.
I do agree that it is excessively unusual for there to be a tornado watch this time of the year in NY, however, when I lived in Happy Valley (Penna) we had them year round (if not all that often)
David (Austin Tx) | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:50 pm | #
There are no parts of the world that are immune from them.
I have the windows open right now and it's seventy degrees.
Raining. Wind gusting.
Here comes the cold front.
Yeah, rapid temperature drops sometimes lead to tornadic conditions.
Or they just blow all the debris elsewhere.
I have the windows wide open too.
67 and steamy like.
It is a tornado watch.
WTF?
Global warming is a bitch.
Our library has that, it's on my list.
Buckeye, Blue State
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty good at this stuff. Gotta say.
It just so happens that in the US, this more frequently occurs in areas where the weather is dominated by the Gulf, which has exceptionally warm water and as a result both moderates temperatures and ups the humidity. This state is tornado alley, and there are always more of them in December than any other time of year.
Arkansas is in tornado alley, but that alley is bigger than just Arkansas. It runs west at least to Wichita Falls.
It's a TWISTER! Auntie Em, Auntie Em!
And Leon's getting larrrrrrrger...
NTodd--are you volunteering to perform the breast exams?
Indeed. I'll throw in a massage for free, too.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
I'd also get a second opinion.
Just saying..
Not Cindy - Candy Crowley.
Candy Crowley is a real anomoly in teevee news. She does not fit into the usual stereotype of the teevee "news" person. Men can be older and non-svelte, but women in general have to appear youthful, but not too youthful, and in general simply cannot be to heavy.
One would hope that her journalistic skills compensate for the cosmetic flaws, but when you watch her reports, you have to wonder what journalistic skills she might possibly have.
Imagine my surprise when, after having moved from Minnesota, I learned that we have tornados in Oregon. Tsunami, tornadoes,earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, sleet, snow -- what don't we have?
BTW, Git them titties off mah teevee.
My father's brother, Adolf Benito Tojo M. also suffered throughout his life from a name-timing issue.
What about Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git and his wife Dreary Fat Boring Old Git.
Here comes the cold front.
watertiger
got that yesterday, went from 70 to 22. 5" of rain, 6 hrs. of sleet.
Oh Presidential Historialiar Beschloss is coming up next.
A Look at the Popular Indigenous Council of Oaxaca-Ricardo Flores Magón (CIPO-RFM)
Candy Crowley is the shitty reporter who asked Kerry the question that cost him the White House.
Would he vote for the Iraq War again if he had it to do over?
Kerry said yes.
Next up: frogs.
watertiger
While the locusts are a springtime phenomenon.
Tena - yeah, but it's the Gulf moisture that causes them everywhere from Kansas & south of Kansas, eastward to the Atlantic coast.
Tsunami, tornadoes,earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, sleet, snow -- what disaster don't we have?
The New York Giants.
Oh please, Dr. Shouty-Crackers, tell me you get a better royalty than that.
Man, it is comin' DOWN.
Left rev, if $25 wouldhelp, email me yr snail address, andit'll go out tomorrow...
sellin tools totally sucks...it's like a farmer eating his/her seed stocks....
The New York Giants.
oh, SNAAAAAAAAAAP!
Why is Cindy Crowley allowed on TV?
I love fat chicks cause they get all jiggly when they're having sex.
Tsunami, tornadoes,earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, sleet, snow -- what disaster don't we have?
The New York Giants.
Culture of Truth
Hundreds dead as typhoon pounds the Philippines
Up to 400 people are feared dead in the Philippines after Typhoon Durian pounded northern and central regions with torrential rain and winds of 155mph, triggering powerful landslides.
The Albay region, south of Manila, was among the worst hit, as rock falls and volcanic mudslides caused by the heavy rains devastated several villages.
"This is the worst catastrophe in our province's history," Fernando Gonzalez, Albay province's governor, said. "We don't have the capacity to handle the devastation it caused."
The head of the Red Cross in the Philippines, Richard Gordon, said 198 people were confirmed dead, with 260 missing, but the death toll could increase dramatically. At least 3,316 families in the southern provinces lost their homes.
Candy Crowley has been on CNN for a long time. And she is a Republican.
One would hope that her journalistic skills compensate for the cosmetic flaws, but when you watch her reports, you have to wonder what journalistic skills she might possibly have.
Hell, it wasn't anything so much as it was her hair the first time I saw her - parted right down the middle and flipped up. Still kind of makes me breathless. She looked absurd. The next time I saw her, she looked better because she didn't have it all flipped up and parted smack down the middle.
But then there's the little fact that she's totally hacktacular.
The New York Giants.
The Jail Blazers are enough, thanks.
Paul Fussell noted in "Class" that a British accent confers a spurious air of nobility on even the most pathetic wanker, in American eyes. Somewhere in a Cambridge pub, professors are falling about laughing over having palmed off Imperial Boy (not even his specialization at uni, btw) on the credulous Yanks. Can't we exchange him for Ioan Gruffydd? http://gfx.filmweb.pl/p/10138/po...38/
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Dollar falls further on fears of downturn in America
Our library has that, it's on my list.
Buckeye, Blue State
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty good at this stuff. Gotta say.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:55 pm
Tolkien first, and then onto the Slavs for awhile. I'm a bit worn out and depressed, having spent most of the summer and fall reading about the Great Fuckup that is Iraq and the GOP.
But then there's the little fact that she's totally hacktacular.
Tena
Hard to get beyond that detail.
I've been reading Tacitus's The Agricola and Germania for my module Roman Britain.
Beschloss is totally fellating Bush right now.
He's sure 2 years from now this land will be paved with gold and candy.
Beschloss is totally fellating Bush right now.
He's sure 2 years from now this land will be paved with gold and candy.
Tena - yeah, but it's the Gulf moisture that causes them everywhere from Kansas & south of Kansas, eastward to the Atlantic coast.
Jennifer |
O I agree.
Believe me - I suffer from that fucking subtropical jet stream all the damn time here. That's what drives our weather.
And we're very prone to tornados, but I don't think Dallas is in tornado alley. I'm not sure that it runs much further west than Wichita Falls, the bad weather capital of the universe.
Do you want to see the beach Aphrodite was born on? here.
I've been reading Tacitus's The Agricola and Germania for my module Roman Britain.
Moonbootica
Would you like some Livy, the Gallic Wars and Pliny's Letters?
In the original?
Lucy&Byron, Devil's Disciples | 12.01.06 - 8:01 pm
paul fussell totally rawks...the great war and modern memory redefined both the study of history and the study of literature for me...
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Candy Crowley is a big time Republican. I don't bash her for her looks. We have too much of that in our society. Her politics are what stink.
If the tornado can make it there it can make it anywhere.
Can't we exchange him for Ioan Gruffydd?
HORATIO! LANCELOT!
I love Ioan...
Here comes the cold front.
watertiger
got that yesterday, went from 70 to 22. 5" of rain, 6 hrs. of sleet.
1watt Hermit | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:57 pm |
We had all the rain yesterday, but it was still warm, this morning at 8:30 it was 53. At 10 it was 33.
paul fussell totally rawks...
Indeed. And my WWII prof was buds with him.
Got cheated by some little company in London, which put off the refund for three months. Laugh's on them; the diving dollar means that even with their "restocking fee" for an item not delivered, I'm getting back more than I paid. -L So there's a small silver lining to the Crybaby-in-Chief trashing the economy.
If the tornado can make it there it can make it anywhere.
Oh, great. Now I've got this image of a tornado wearing a bowler and fishnets.
Y'all are reminding me in no uncertain terms why I'm glad I moved to the west coast. No tornadoes here.
Wow. Look at Keith's tie.
Oh, great. Now I've got this image of a tornado wearing a bowler and fishnets.
watertiger
Start spreading the newwwws...
Y'all are reminding me in no uncertain terms why I'm glad I moved to the west coast. No tornadoes here.
blerb. You're joking, right?
left rev, e-mail me at vtybg@netzero.com if you'd like some temporary help
I have the windows wide open too.
67 and steamy like.
It is a tornado watch.
WTF?
Global warming is a bitch.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:55 pm | #
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its like a swamp in my house 85 d F and the AC cut out Tues. the pets are on the patio its 75 out there ...Im scared their might be rats out their though so ill sweat tonite
sheesh
Tena ...are things better ?
I have the windows wide open too.
67 and steamy like.
It is a tornado watch.
WTF?
Global warming is a bitch.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 7:55 pm | #
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its like a swamp in my house 85 d F and the AC cut out Tues. the pets are on the patio its 75 out there ...Im scared their might be rats out their though so ill sweat tonite
sheesh
Tena ...are things better ?
Breaking News:
David Gest has married a Twister.
Would you like some Livy, the Gallic Wars and Pliny's Letters?
In the original?
JR, kerosene and a match | 12.01.06 - 8:04 pm | #
its a translated version, Penguin Classics.
I do have 2 translated books by Livy Rome and the Mediterranean and The Early History of Rome: Bk.I-V.
and Caesar's The Conquest of Gaul.
all part of Penguin Classics
Oh, snap again! Richard Wolffe refers to Shrub as "The Decider".
I don't bash her for her looks. We have too much of that in our society. Her politics are what stink.
Well, I don't think it's too much to ask of someone who is on TV not to do such weird shit to her hair that it looks like she's wearing a very bad wig, and it shifted.
Y'all are reminding me in no uncertain terms why I'm glad I moved to the west coast. No tornadoes here.
blerb | 12.01.06 - 8:07 pm
there are occasional tornadoes in the hi chihuahuan, even...not like in okiedom, of course...but every once in a while one will pop down...
last one about two years ago...spun through part of the next county north...
/
KO: Iraq is the politics of "Itchy and Scratchy"!
Holy crap I left Ks, to move to a red zone.
http://www.tornadochaser.net/ima...s/
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Oh, Mr. Wolffe is in fine fettle tonite!
Caesar's The Conquest of Gaul
Omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est...
that pretty much exhausts my recollections of secular latin prose
/
Can't we exchange him for Ioan Gruffydd?
HORATIO! LANCELOT!
I love Ioan...
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:06 pm |
Mmmm, Ioan...
http://members.lycos.nl/darkofil...%
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http://www.jupeal.com/Actores/I/...%
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Tena ...are things better ?
Yep. I just went to the Apple store and got another keyboard. I don't have †ime to fuck around with this right now.
It did force me to go ahead and get my son's Christmas gift, which I needed to do. And then I went and finally ordered some new glasses.
I just wish I could have gotten to the driver's license place, but I didn't make it. Again.
It expired on my birthday in October.
Y'all are reminding me in no uncertain terms why I'm glad I moved to the west coast. No tornadoes here.
blerb
Oh, there have been a few. SoCal got hit with one a year or so ago, but they certainly are much rarer here than, say, Wisconsin.
blerb. You're joking, right?
pie
I don't know about Sacramento and such. I guess they get the occasional funnel cloud in the valley. But in San Francisco, the persistent low-level inversion makes the sort of serious convection that you need to get a mesoscale cyclone going almost impossible. We hear thunder here maybe a couple of times a year, and that's usually pretty weak. Nothing like the God-trying-to-strike-you-dead stuff that occurred several times a week during summer in Maryland.
The Myth Of Socialism As Statism
McCaffrey wants to give the Iraqis attack helicopters and other stuff.
After all, democracy flows from a fleet of attack helicopters.
"I'll get you my pretty..."
BONK!!!!
*wicked witch getting mugged*
Yes, the Jail Blazers are MORE than enough, thank you.
Then we have the fashion horse Ducks, causing people across the country to claw out their eyes to make it stop...
No tornadoes here.
The War On Meteorology is working on that.
I can't get to Eschaton right now. Luckily left this thread open.
Y'all are reminding me in no uncertain terms why I'm glad I moved to the west coast. No tornadoes here.
Feel the ground shaking at all there?
I just wish I could have gotten to the driver's license place, but I didn't make it. Again.
You all know, that thanks to the RealID act, we are all required to get new drivers licenses in 2008.
And no more renewals by mail either.
Sky Harbor, showing nekked senior citizens since 2006
HORATIO! LANCELOT!
Reed Richards, too...
there are occasional tornadoes in the hi chihuahuan, even...not like in okiedom, of course...but every once in a while one will pop down...
I remember about - O - 4 years ago maybe? A tornado hit Cimmarron right before we were in Raton for the night. Everybody was shocked, because it is pretty rare.
Up in the mountains we get straightline winds that will knock huge logdepole pines flat.
Well, there is that. One day our little Pompeii will fall into the sea, but as long as it stands, it's a great place to be.
Sky Harbor, showing nekked senior citizens since 2006
Swing looooow, sweet chariots...
Feel the ground shaking at all there?
Yeah, that's a small problem.
That and a nearby chain of dormant volcanoes just waiting for their chance to make the national news...
Jonathan Turley is such a good interview.
Yep. I just went to the Apple store and got another keyboard. I don't have †ime to fuck around with this right now.
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Gooooooooooooooooooooode!!!
i just hope the chocolate Baci cakes i bought for the Veterinarian and his staff fo Xmas ...dont melt....think they will in 85 d?
I don't study any Latin or Greek modules even though I do Ancient History.
its a requirement for Classics though.
The degrees you can take in the Classics and Ancient History Department
Single Honours
# Ancient History (V112)
# Classical Civilisation (Q820)
# Classics (Q800)
# Ancient and Medieval History (V116) (taught jointly with the Department of History)
# Egyptology (V410)
I remember about - O - 4 years ago maybe? A tornado hit Cimmarron right before we were in Raton for the night. Everybody was shocked, because it is pretty rare.
Up in the mountains we get straightline winds that will knock huge logdepole pines flat.
Tena
Baby doll, you need to be down here in the Sonora.... What happens here is beyond description....
her hair the first time I saw her - parted right down the middle and flipped up. Still kind of makes me breathless. She looked absurd.
It is completely weird. What is she thinking? What did she ever do to her hairdresser for him to hate her so??
my friend Gem learns Latin though, really smart and a fast learner.
Reed Richards, too...
Couldn't bring myself to see F4, even if he and Jessica Alba were in it.
the RealID act, we are all required to get new drivers licenses in 2008.
And no more renewals by mail either.
Fuckers. Virginia has had the BEST system where you only had to go in every ten years, otherwise it was tres easy to renew on line.
I am the hands down poor luck/shmuck of Eschaton bad weather days
6 hurricanes in 2 years......sheesh
Boy I tell ya' it's hard to find the DVD of the Island of Dr. Moreau (as it should be)
Feel the ground shaking at all there?
Yeah, that's a small problem.
That and a nearby chain of dormant volcanoes just waiting for their chance to make the national news...
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 12.01.06 - 8:17 pm
When my sister first went out to Seattle, she found it weird to see stuff on evacuation routes in case Ranier or St. Helens goes.
Climate change killed pre-historic animals
Reuters
CANBERRA (Reuters) - Giant kangaroos and wombats bigger than cars which once roamed Australia were killed by climate change and not human hunters, Australian scientists said on Thursday.
The report comes as the country struggles with what could be its worst drought in 1,000 years, affecting more than half its farmlands.
Known as megafauna, the huge animals were driven into extinction by a steady warming of Australia's climate, which in turn saw a once-lush outback region turn to red desert and grasslands.
It is completely weird. What is she thinking? What did she ever do to her hairdresser for him to hate her so??
Hecate,
I wish I knew.
It couldn't have been more wrong.
ithe RealID act, we are all required to get new drivers licenses in 2008.
And no more renewals by mail either.
Screw that. In AZ, my renewal is something like 2030.
Make me, you sons of bitches. Just Make Me.
.
Tornados are easier to outrun than, say, an earthquake, or volcanic blow-off top. Plus, its nice to live in a place where people don't build 2 million dollar houses on nascent mudslides. I mean, how dumb is that?
And then theres the conundrum of elite gated communities being subject to inferno from some slob tossing is cigarette out the window.
The local right wing talk show host here in Pittsburgh was whining about how we just have to have a law requiring ID when you vote to prevent VOTER FRAUD.
They need to get over it. Sore Losermen.
*GLOAT* *GLOAT* *GLOAT* *GLOAT* *GLOAT* *GLOAT* *GLOAT*
HAHAHAHA!
Nobody said anything about a RECTAL thermometer!
(yes, that's the caption accompanying this photo)
France's Royal corrects gaffe on U.S. policy
BEIRUT (Reuters) - French Socialist presidential candidate Segolene Royal corrected comments on Friday in which she agreed with a Hezbollah lawmaker who denounced the "insanity" of U.S. foreign policy.
Royal, who swept to victory in a Socialist party primary vote last month but has been slammed by critics as a lightweight, is touring the Middle East in a bid too boost her foreign policy credentials.
At a meeting between Royal and the foreign policy committee of Lebanon's lower house of parliament, Hezbollah lawmaker Ali Ammar denounced the "unlimited insanity of the American administration" in a long statement through an interpreter.
When my sister first went out to Seattle, she found it weird to see stuff on evacuation routes in case Ranier or St. Helens goes.
Buckeye,
My son showed me the road on Fox Island that collapsed completely in the last big quake that region had.
Half of it just fell into a huge fucking hole.
Fuckers. Virginia has had the BEST system where you only had to go in every ten years, otherwise it was tres easy to renew on line.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It was pretty much the same system here in Texas.
I believe we had to go in for every other renewal.
No longer.
Happy Advent all you heathens and other motherfuckers.
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
.
Sky Harbor, showing nekked senior citizens since 2006
Attaturk |
Hey!
/Barry Goldwater
.
Unrest rumors fuel panic-buying ahead of Venezuela election
CARACAS (AFP) - Rumors of possible unrest after Sunday's presidential election in Venezuela triggered panic-buying in some Caracas neighborhoods considered strongholds of the opposition against President Hugo Chavez.
Several supermarkets ran out of basic foodstuff on Friday as shoppers stocked up on milk and canned goods, particularly in the capital's better-off neighborhoods, where Chavez has few supporters.
Chavez, a former paratrooper who once led a failed coup, fueled the rumors whenhe claimed on Thursday that "irresponsible, putschist, fascist" elements were plotting to plunge Venezuela into chaos in a bid to shock voters into backing the opposition.
Unrest rumors fuel panic-buying ahead of Venezuela election
CARACAS (AFP) - Rumors of possible unrest after Sunday's presidential election in Venezuela triggered panic-buying in some Caracas neighborhoods considered strongholds of the opposition against President Hugo Chavez.
Several supermarkets ran out of basic foodstuff on Friday as shoppers stocked up on milk and canned goods, particularly in the capital's better-off neighborhoods, where Chavez has few supporters.
Chavez, a former paratrooper who once led a failed coup, fueled the rumors whenhe claimed on Thursday that "irresponsible, putschist, fascist" elements were plotting to plunge Venezuela into chaos in a bid to shock voters into backing the opposition.
And we're very prone to tornados, but I don't think Dallas is in tornado alley. I'm not sure that it runs much further west than Wichita Falls, the bad weather capital of the universe.
Tena | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:04 pm
Depends:
http://www.tornadochaser.net/ima...s/
frequency.gif
http://www.tornadochaser.net/ima...s/
frequency.jpg
I am the hands down poor luck/shmuck of Eschaton bad weather days
6 hurricanes in 2 years......sheesh
Good thing there's no such thing as global warming that will increase the number and strength of hurricanes. Lucky!
Friends over for dinner and drinks.
Catch you later.
Seattle and Tacoma are located dead smack in the middle of the known lahar flow paths.
If Rainier even heats up much, let alone erupts, it's not going to be pretty.
HAHAHAHA!
Nobody said anything about a RECTAL thermometer!
(yes, that's the caption accompanying this photo)
watertiger
Cute, but I was still hoping it was being stuck in Bush.
Oh, laaaaaadies.
I like the rakish angle of the crown.
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
Just more scare tactics from Fat Albert, who is making millions of you idiots.
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
.
WoodyG'sGuitar,
O no shit?
I'm sure you know this, but the present Rockies are the third mountain range that has existed there. And the first two were there so long they were worn away by erosion.
That just astounds me. Like the distances in space, the distances in geologic time are so vast.
My NM Drivers' License (one of the 10-year-duration jobs) expires in 2012...
i wanna see'm make me change it!
Good thing there's no such thing as global warming that will increase the number and strength of hurricanes. Lucky!
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:26 pm | #
Don't tell me you're one of those elitist eggheads who think heat is a form of energy.
I'm going to go find something to eat for dinner. There isn't anything I want - Lizard Spit has guaranteed that. Maybe I'll sit in front of the fire with a glass of wine and be happy with that. Some things are sadder than others.
Everybody pull yourself together. Be nice.
Remember, to-morrow is also a day.
.
Oh, laaaaaadies.
I like the rakish angle of the crown.
watertiger< /i>
O Jesus, he looks thrilled.
Was that photoshopped, or did they make him wear that?
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
.
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:25 pm | #
It's a sign! Praise Jesus!
Don't tell me you're one of those elitist eggheads who think heat is a form of energy.
Not at all! I think heat is a form of God's Love.
Remember, to-morrow is also a day.
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:28 pm | #
Wait, don't go. I have something for you...
I'm sure you know this, but the present NTodd is the third that has existed. And the first two were there so long they were worn away by wankerism.
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
Let me say in advance...
"HA! HA!"
Iraqi police may have murdered British sergeant, Army admits
Army officials have admitted that Iraqi police may have been implicated in the death of a British sergeant, but no one is likely to be brought to justice.
Just weeks into his second tour of Iraq, Sgt John Jones, 31, of the 1st Battalion The Royal Regiment of Fusiliers was killed by a roadside bomb as he commanded a routine patrol in Basra. Four other soldiers were injured.
A charismatic, compassionate man with a sharp sense of humour, Jonah, as he was known to his friends, was killed in what John Reid, who was Defence Minister at the time, described as a "barbaric act of terrorism".
I am the hands down poor luck/shmuck of Eschaton bad weather days
6 hurricanes in 2 years......sheesh
Good thing there's no such thing as global warming that will increase the number and strength of hurricanes. Lucky!
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:26 pm | #
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Im leaving this area for good ...i can take ahint...and ican take a flood,but most of my things are broke,busted mildewed or otherwise damaged goods...rant over...find me a mini farm in vermont pleazzzze
Dr. Barmpot:
The Great War in Colour.
Illinois is in the process of approving legislation to raise the minimum wage from $6.50 to $7.50 in July, and a quarter a year to a limit of $8.25 in 2010. No word on whether the state will take advantage of the opportunity to impose a tax on wingnut whining, which would fill the state's substantial budget deficit within weeks.
My NM Drivers' License (one of the 10-year-duration jobs) expires in 2012...
i wanna see'm make me change it!
WoodyG'sGuitar,
I could have renewed mine by mail. I just hate the picture so much I've been anxious for it to expire.
And then, of course, I start procrastinating.
One of my worst faults.
When my sister first went out to Seattle, she found it weird to see stuff on evacuation routes in case Ranier or St. Helens goes.
Buckeye,
My son showed me the road on Fox Island that collapsed completely in the last big quake that region had.
Half of it just fell into a huge fucking hole.
Tena | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:23 pm
So far nothing like that has happened to my nephew, though he thought it was a bit rainy in November, even for him.
12.01.06 - 8:28 pm | #
Wait, don't go. I have something for you...
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Whayawant?????
Oh, laaaaaadies.
I like the rakish angle of the crown.
watertiger
Makes me want to watch my Tom Brady video again!
New Zealand cancels arrest warrant for Israeli general
The former head of Israel's army continued unimpeded with a trip to New Zealand yesterday after the country's attorney general rescinded a warrant issued for his arrest to face allegations of war crimes.
Moshe Yaalon, who was chief of staff until June last year, said that he was still in New Zealand despite the warrant for his arrest.
The decision by the Auckland district court on Monday last week was overruled on Thursday by the New Zealand attorney general, Michael Cullen.
I like the rakish angle of the crown.
Ya know, he looks a bit like he's auditioning for a big screen treatment of Blackadder.
Was that photoshopped, or did they make him wear that?
photo was taken on the set of The Today Show.
I'm sure you know this, but the present NTodd is the third that has existed.
I like the guy who played the 2nd incarnation the best.
I store all of my deceased relatives in a "Space Bag"
Makes me want to watch my Tom Brady video again!
THAT was seriously disturbing.
Good thing there's no such thing as global warming that will increase the number and strength of hurricanes. Lucky!
School got cancelled early today because of near-hurricane winds and expected heavy rain and flash-flooding.
In December. In upstate New York. Cripes.
That just astounds me. Like the distances in space, the distances in geologic time are so vast.
Tena - 8:27 pm
somewhere--some nature show on pbs or sumpin--i saw a film in which they showed that, 200-300 thousand years ago, the colorado river ran the other way...
Anyway, Friday Nudibranch Blogging.
Also, my unprincipled nonintegritudinous attack on the arch-fiend Altmouse.
I store all of my deceased relatives in a "Space Bag"
And all those vagabonds you killed before Thanksgiving, right?
I like the guy who played the 2nd incarnation the best.
When Ted McGinley is cast, we'll know we're in trouble.
somewhere--some nature show on pbs or sumpin--i saw a film in which they showed that, 200-300 thousand years ago, the colorado river ran the other way...
WoodyG'sGuitar
Cripes.
Molly Ivors - 8:31 pm
didja get my email?
The Great War in Colour.
History Channel did a series of WWII and WWI footage in color. That was cool.
Hey, Phila?
Tom Morgan is my dearie.... Has been for years and years and years.
Sleep tight macushla. All's well.
.
Whayawant?????
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:30 pm | #
I reiterate.
Did someone mention rain in Washington state?
http://www.nps.gov/mora/parknews...oad/
floodPP.pdf
And all those vagabonds you killed before Thanksgiving, right?
watertiger
Mmmmmmmmm, deep fried vagabond. (You have to make sure they're completely defrosted)
And we're very prone to tornados, but I don't think Dallas is in tornado alley. I'm not sure that it runs much further west than Wichita Falls, the bad weather capital of the universe.
Tena | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:04 pm
An F5 hitting downtown Dallas or downtown Oklahoma City during the middle of a business day is pretty much the Katrina of Tornadic possibilities
This is prolly the worst single Tornado ever in terms of damage caused. And it basically grazed the suburbs.
School got cancelled early today because of near-hurricane winds and expected heavy rain and flash-flooding.
You should stay on the mountain.
didja get my email?
Just answered, my friend. Many thanks.
Oh, great. Now I've got this image of a tornado wearing a bowler and fishnets.
watertiger"
Seriously folks, at least moderate your drugs if you cannot abstain completely.
This was a another public but befuddled PSA.
Tom Morgan is my dearie.... Has been for years and years and years.
Well, the hell with it, then. Have a look at these Japanese trucks, instead.
catch you laters moonbats
and be sure to check out the Fabulous Friday Cat Blogging, my cute, sleek kitty cats wish you to see them 
You should stay on the mountain.
No shit. We had a cocktail party and were going to have a date tonight.
Oh well.
somewhere--some nature show on pbs or sumpin--i saw a film in which they showed that, 200-300 thousand years ago, the colorado river ran the other way...
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:31 pm | #
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Hey man, they can do that with the Chicago River.
Was that photoshopped, or did they make him wear that?
photo was taken on the set of The Today Show.
watertige
No wonder he looks so fucking thrilled.
Ever seen pics from the Great Depression in color?
Kinda weird, since it seems like it was always in B&W.
Ever seen pics from the Great Depression in color?
Kinda weird, since it seems like it was always in B&W.
I can't do anything right, goddamn it.
Japanese trucks.
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
.
WoodyG'sGuitar,
O no shit?
I'm sure you know this, but the present Rockies are the third mountain range that has existed there. And the first two were there so long they were worn away by erosion.
That just astounds me. Like the distances in space, the distances in geologic time are so vast.
Tena | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:27 pm
Super volcanoes:
http://www.solcomhouse.com/
yello...yellowstone.htm
http://www.livescience.com/
force...er_volcano.html
"Mmmmmmmmm, deep fried vagabond. (You have to make sure they're completely defrosted)
Attaturk "
What! no Vagaturducken?
Re colonizing other planets:
Bill Bryson talks about this in his book "A Short History..."
It's too far. Travelling at the speed of a Voyager spacecraft, it would take about 50,000 years to reach the edge of our own Solar System.
Kinda weird, since it seems like it was always in B&W.
The world was only tinted until 1939.
Ever seen pics from the Great Depression in color?
Kinda weird, since it seems like it was always in B&W.
Culture of Truth
Does it make it any less depressing?
Hey man, they can do that with the Chicago River.
James Jesus RImbaud
And dye it green on St. Patrick's Day. Let's see them try that with the Colorado.
Kinda weird, since it seems like it was always in B&W.
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:35 pm | #
It's almost as though representation affects perception...
I want to see scientists on the cover of Time and Newsweek, not Jesus.
I want science in the schools. I want to see it respected again.
Phila, that was a pretty obscure Kids in the Hall reference in your Altmouse post.
We had a cocktail party and were going to have a date tonight.
Well, you could send the kids out for a nice walk in the rain and then "date".
The world was only tinted until 1939.
Molly Ivors
Damn I love your mind. I just love it.
Phila, that was a pretty obscure Kids in the Hall reference in your Altmouse post.
Molly Ivors
I'm squishing this thread!
beneficiary from a proposed federal minimum wage hike to $7.25 an hour is far more likely to be in a family earning more than three times the poverty line than in a poor family. In total, only 12.7 percent of the benefits from a federal minimum wage increase to $7.25 an hour would go to poor families. In contrast, 63 percent of benefits would go to families earning more than twice the poverty line and 42 percent would go to families earning more than three times the poverty line.
dave | 12.01.06 - 6:55 pm | #
This fellow doesn't seem to realize that 3 times poverty level is lower middle class at best.
The world was only tinted until 1939.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:36 pm | #
Them olden days. Them hard, hard times.
Travelling at the speed of a Voyager spacecraft, it would take about 50,000 years to reach the edge of our own Solar System.
Which is why Stephen Hawking suggest vehicles inspired by Star Trek.
Phila, the pic of that nudi is startlingly beautiful, but, ah...Friday Hope is one of your better efforts.
(Edible chopsticks, edible spoons, edible sporks...grounds for hope indeed.)
Well, you could send the kids out for a nice walk in the rain and then "date".
They could fly Rosie, a la Piglet in "Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day."
Kinda weird, since it seems like it was always in B&W.
The world was only tinted until 1939.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:36 pm | #
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Wizard of Oz
ithe RealID act, we are all required to get new drivers licenses in 2008.
And no more renewals by mail either.
That's an unfunded mandate on the states, I thought, and I also thought most states had said - "we can't afford to do that."
Geologists predict that sometime in the next 4 or 5 thousand years, a huge caldera will open up just about right under Socorro, NM, and spread lava for about 100 miles in every direction...
Yellowstone park is home to supervolcano which could literally end civilization as we know it if went into a full blown eruption...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Yel...owstone#Geology
There is evidence that the dark ages were precipitated by the global cooling caused by a major eruption of Krakatoa back in 535 AD...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cli...535%E2%80%
93536
When Ted McGinley is cast, we'll know we're in trouble.
I'd be more concerned if they cast Urkel.
Them olden days. Them hard, hard times.
You know James Joyce was a partner in the film movie theater in Dublin? Also 1907, I think.
If anybody wants to do it next year, for the EschaState Fair gathering, i'll organize a road trip up through the valle grande caldera, and down to Bandalier to the cliff dwellings...
not only is it a beautiful drive (it really is), but the cliff dwelings at Bandalier are way kewlll...
up dat way's ol' woody's stompin grounds...
.
Phila, that was a pretty obscure Kids in the Hall reference in your Altmouse post.
Molly Ivors
Obscure to me, in particular. Which one are you talking about?
Sorry, that was *first* movit theater in Dublen.
steve simels regrets the error.
Does it make it any less depressing?
Gomez
People wore black and white clothes since they could only seen in that way anyway.
You know James Joyce was a partner in the film movie theater in Dublin? Also 1907, I think.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:41 pm | #
An Eerie Coincidence, begob.
Which one are you talking about?
Dave Foley as a lawyer, offering to "waste the jury's time by rating the Superhunks."
Or is that not KITH?
I love these Nigerian cons.
Y'know, if you're stupid enough to think that a long-lost relative died in Nigeria and left you $10 million, then you deserve to be parted with your money.
An F5 hitting downtown Dallas or downtown Oklahoma City during the middle of a business day is pretty much the Katrina of Tornadic possibilities
This is prolly the worst single Tornado ever in terms of damage caused. And it basically grazed the suburbs.
Bas-O-Matic | 12.01.06 - 8:34 pm
Imagine another tornado like the Tri State Tornado:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri...i-
State_Tornado
http://www.tornadoproject.com/to...m/toptens/
1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/heartla...47/
tornado2.htm
Tancredo protesters turn violent
By Anne Mulkern
Denver Post Staff Writer
Violence erupted at a Michigan law school Thursday when protestors tried to block a speech by Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo.
Police were called after protestors pulled a fire alarm prior to the speech on immigration policies. There were at least three violent incidents with protestors targeting student backers of the event, Tancredo, R-Littleton, said today.
"One was spit on, one was kicked, and one was punched," Tancredo said in an e-mail. "Tires were also slashed."
Ah, I see the little fascists are at it again. Exactly what I expect from today's "progressive" (read liberal) Brownshirts.
Keith!
god bless Keith on the Gonzo riff
To this day, Kansas is STILL in black and white.
If anybody wants to do it next year, for the EschaState Fair gathering, i'll organize a road trip up through the valle grande caldera, and down to Bandalier to the cliff dwellings...
I'm dying to go to Bandolier.
Yes yes yes!
Why can I not type? Sheesh, you'd think I'd been doing something fun. No, alas.
O Jesus, he looks thrilled.
Was that photoshopped, or did they make him wear that?
Tena
It's also a pretty unflattering photo of him.
Which is kinda hard to do.....
I love these Nigerian cons.
Y'know, if you're stupid enough to think that a long-lost relative died in Nigeria and left you $10 million, then you deserve to be parted with your money.
watertiger
I love the ones which start "Dearly Beloved"
not only is it a beautiful drive (it really is), but the cliff dwelings at Bandalier are way kewlll...
up dat way's ol' woody's stompin grounds...
.
WoodyG'sGuitar
My second favorite place in the universe.
Keith on a Nigerian email scam using FBI references: Yeah, and I'd be careful about anything you got from Gonzales too.
Go, Keith!
People wore black and white clothes since they could only seen in that way anyway.
Culture of Truth
At least they could afford hats.
To this day, Kansas is STILL in black and white.
I think that film was hard on their self-image.
Ah, I see the little fascists are at it again. Exactly what I expect from today's "progressive" (read liberal) Brownshirts.
That's nice, dear. Have an Oreo.
James Joyce wrote the script for "Airplane!"
Indeed, based on my e-mail offerings for Christmas I could get
-a fatter penis
-a lotto win from Holland
-some inheritance from some odd person in Nigeria
-a Russian mail-order bride
-a person of unknown gender and nationality who wants to come to my house for coffee
I love the ones which start "Dearly Beloved"
You're telling me the Nigerian con men don't love me for me?
Or is that not KITH?
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:43 pm | #
Simpsons, actually.
What the HELL is "she" wearing?
Ah, I see the little fascists are at it again. Exactly what I expect from today's "progressive" (read liberal) Brownshirts.
love
Karma for the Tancredo asswipe is a bitch, isn't it, "love".
Good evening, peeps. It wasn't easy getting here. The internet tubes were all blocked up.
Your search - By Anne Mulkern Denver Post Staff WriterTancredo protesters turn violent - did not match any documents.
-a person of unknown gender and nationality who wants to come to my house for coffee
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:46 pm | #
Sounds HOT.
What the HELL is "she" wearing?
More fashions by Madame Mao, I see.
Uh, how's that fence coming along?
LATimes- President-elect Felipe Calderon appointed close friends and party allies to key Cabinet positions Tuesday, a sign that he is closing ranks in the face of street-level opposition to his narrowly won presidency.
The appointees reflect the conservative social and fiscal views of Calderon and his National Action Party, or PAN, and contrast with his promise made during his bitter campaign against leftist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador that he would appoint a multi-party Cabinet.
Simpsons, actually.
D'oh!
I've got my snark tangled up in my brain.
This semester cannot end soon enough.
Was that photoshopped, or did they make him wear that?
photo was taken on the set of The Today Show.
watertige
No wonder he looks so fucking thrilled.
Tena | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:35 pm
You can watch on Monday:
http://www.clooneystudio.com/tod...106/
index.album
What the HELL is "she" wearing?
watertiger
That's on sale at Value City Furniture.
left rev --
ages since I've spotted oyu here -- hope things improve (sounds like you're due!)
HBK --
As long as you are not in one of those NYC tralier parks (OK, sick joke -- many years ago a tornado hit downtown Kalamazoo -- our closest big city -- we knew nothing about it -- our motherhouse in England heard it on the BBC & telephoned to see if we were OK [not knowing how spaced condentrated tornados are] -- they closed the city -- downtown was like it had been bombed -- really devastating -- so good luck NYC!)
NTodd -- you pantless Ukranian Quaker -- Adevent doesn't begin until tomorrow afternoon (with the first Vespers of the Sunday) -- our entire office changes -- hymns, hymn tunes, antiphons, lessons, responses, Marian antiphons -- you name it -- but Advent is my favorites liturgical season -- great music, too)
As to the minimum wage (etc. -- if anyone remembers that) -- I realize that using Republicans for Soylent Green might seem to contradict my Gandhian principles, so there's always Ten Years After:
http://www.bluefish.org/i'd_love.htm
(dudes & dudesses, it's like deja vu all over again)
http://thumbsnap.com/v/7fc6HieS.jpg
Your search - By Anne Mulkern Denver Post Staff WriterTancredo protesters turn violent - did not match any documents.
Just e-mail Tancredo. I'm sure he'll tell you the score.
-a person of unknown gender and nationality who wants to come to my house for coffee
Echidne
Sounds HOT.
Phila
Of course. I cannot imagine Echidne serving cold coffee.
Travelling at the speed of a Voyager spacecraft, it would take about 50,000 years to reach the edge of our own Solar System.
Which is why Stephen Hawking suggest vehicles inspired by Star Trek.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
Yeah, I doubt Hawking has in mind something we'd be able to do next week, next year, or maybe even the next century. It is a goal that may only be achieved hundreds of years from now, but it is something the human race has to do to survive in the long term. Even neglecting the damage we are doing to the Earth ourselves, the planet as we know it has a finite lifetime.
Whoops forgot to change my name back
simles regrets the error. Lets try that again;:
Hey folks a bit o' a blogwhore:
Brent Bozell is a idiot.
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Of course. I cannot imagine Echidne serving cold coffee.
Now this is one of the great mysteries of life: I love cold coffee but I hate iced coffee. It has to be luke-cold.
Your search - By Anne Mulkern Denver Post Staff WriterTancredo protesters turn violent - did not match any documents.
Heh.
What the HELL is "she" wearing?
watertiger
Either she has on body armor, or she's pregnant.
(((Prior A!)))
NTodd -- you pantless Ukranian Quaker -- Adevent doesn't begin until tomorrow afternoon (with the first Vespers of the Sunday)
Not in my world, you robe-wearing fiend!
What the HELL is "she" wearing?
watertiger | Homepage | 12.01.06
its...um... ah... very... um... Blue! yeah that's it blue.
What the HELL is "she" wearing?
watertiger
As I noted at your place, that color was quite prevalent about 1983.
I was more concerned about Sasquatch's outfit, actually.
Oh, and here: Friday Otherpeoplescatblogging.
Now this is one of the great mysteries of life: I love cold coffee but I hate iced coffee. It has to be luke-cold.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:51 pm | #
I like my coffee like I like my men: cold, black, and bitter.
From USAToday:
Minneapolis-St. Paul is concerned that its taxi service is deteriorating. Citing their religious beliefs, Muslim taxi drivers are refusing to transport customers carrying or suspected of carrying alcohol. It started with one driver a few years ago, but the average number of fare refusals has grown to several dozen a week, says airport spokesman Patrick Hogan. "Travelers often feel surprised and insulted," he says. "Sometimes, several drivers in a row refuse carriage."
Is this kind of thing legal? What about pharmacists that refuse to sell birth control? Are there any lawsuits that are going to stop this "soft" fascism?
Now this is one of the great mysteries of life: I love cold coffee but I hate iced coffee. It has to be luke-cold.
Is that some odd European thing?
Stonehenge spa. Hmmm. Kinda just takes a bit of the glow off dunit?
Oh yeah!
Morton Kondrake gets a nomination for WPITW!
Shit Romney getting tough on immigration while using illegals for landscaping for years.
Go, Keith!
Not in my world, you robe-wearing fiend!
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
HEY! NTodd, Holden said that you were looking to start a blog, you can write for me....
(runs from room)
.
President Bush has installed more than 100 top officials who were once lobbyists, attorneys or spokespeople for the industries they oversee.
*waves to ANNE C MULKERN*
Thanks Prior but I guess everything is all right now.
I like my coffee like I like my men: cold, black, and bitter.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
"Well, helloooooo."
/clarence thomas
As I noted at your place, that color was quite prevalent about 1983.
Note how the scarf matches perfectly.
A la Dress Barn.
Oh, are we blogwhoring? Because I have some new Babyblogging up.
I drink iced coffe in the summer; it's a habit that i learned from my mother. In the winter, I can drink it either hot or iced. What I like best of all are those coffee beans that you can eat.
I drink iced coffe in the summer; it's a habit that i learned from my mother. In the winter, I can drink it either hot or iced. What I like best of all are those coffee beans that you can eat.
Bill O' Reilly: worst liar in the world.
Shit Romney getting tough on immigration while using illegals for landscaping for years.
"La La La *chew chew chew* La La!"
-K-Lo
for the information of the Obama clacque, Ken Silverstein does a nice, gentle, repectful deconstruction of the myth in this month's (Dec) Harper's...
just sayin
./
What I like best of all are those coffee beans that you can eat.
When Atrios does his patented ten posts in a half hour, I'm sure he's into the chocolate-covered espresso beans.
D'you suppose Billo is even remotely capable of ever grasping the simple concept that every. single. one. of his idiotic boasts about what he's said or done is gonna get him on Worst Person in the World.
It really shouldn't take this much practice to figure that out.
Is Bill Orally hooked on autofellatio?
Re-high, Bats.
Evening, Prior. Just watching the trees dance, and limbs fall around the yard. Should be an interesting evening. Wife asked if we were ready in case of the possible.
I assured her we were. I could get the spare heater to make her feel better I suppose.
Oh, are we blogwhoring? Because I have some new Babyblogging up.
Now we get to hear again how Snow was the favored one over NTodd.
sigh.
What I like best of all are those coffee beans that you can eat.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | - 8:55 pm
the french-roasted ones, dipped in dark chocolate???
um-YUMMMM...
Chimpy
NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim December 2006 as National Drunk and Drugged
Driving Prevention Month. I encourage all Americans to make responsible decisions and to help prevent drunk and drugged driving.
Oh, are we blogwhoring? Because I have some new Babyblogging up.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.06
Those tykes rock Mary. A play about the water cycle? Was it like Inconvenient Truth for youngsters...
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I love these Nigerian cons.
Y'know, if you're stupid enough to think that a long-lost relative died in Nigeria and left you $10 million, then you deserve to be parted with your money.
watertiger
I love the ones which start "Dearly Beloved"
Echidne of the snakes
I got one today that the subject line was "Can You Lift Your Fucking Dick?"
D'you suppose Billo is even remotely capable of ever grasping the simple concept that every. single. one. of his idiotic boasts about what he's said or done is gonna get him on Worst Person in the World.
"Just spell my name right."
I could get the spare heater to make her feel better I suppose.
I thought you were the heater.
I could get the spare heater to make her feel better I suppose.
I thought you were the heater.
To this day, Kansas is STILL in black and white.
I think that film was hard on their self-image.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 8:45 pm |
One Saturday during a spring semester, in trying to avoid actual homework, my friend and I watched a couple of movies: Wizard of Oz and Children of the Corn, both set in Kansas.
At the end of our mini-movieathon, we looked at each other and said 'I'm never going to Kansas!'
What I like best of all are those coffee beans that you can eat.
goes good with tequila & lime.
"La La La *chew chew chew* La La!"
"Jonah, that wasabi stings!"
The Weekly Standard is not happy about the ISG report, and makes an odd claim:
[A]fter nine months of deliberation and an unprecedented build-up of expectations that these sages would produce some brilliant, original answer to the Iraq conundrum, the study group's recommendations turn out to be a pallid and muddled reiteration of what most Democrats, many Republicans, and even Donald Rumsfeld and senior military officials have been saying for almost two years.
Keith, kicked serious ass as usual.
Now we get to hear again how Snow was the favored one over NTodd.
I missed this, luckily.
Oh He-caaa-te!
http://www.peets.com/shop/
gifts_...ifts_sweets.asp
http://www.portorico.com/prgoods.html
.
For those who aren't intelligent enough to do a simple Google search, here it is.
NTodd -- you pantless Ukranian Quaker -- Adevent doesn't begin until tomorrow afternoon (with the first Vespers of the Sunday)
Not in my world, you robe-wearing fiend!
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
Now. now.
This is the season of peace and goodwill.
I thought you were the heater.
I am, dear. And, thanks for noticing.
I meant the spare propane heater in event the power surge like just happened did.
Shoulda rented "In Cold Blood" for the trifecta
Love your pictures, Molly Ivors.
Ok, Galactica in 5.
Later, batties.
And please forgive me my ill humor this morning - I just couldn't believe I'd done that.
NTodd --
Of course, if you are doing Advent, that is still better than doing Christmas like everyone else has been doing since before Thanksgiving
Re color -- remember Calvin's Dad explaining to him that before the 1950s everything really was in black and white. Calvin asked about the color paintings by the great artists of history & Calvin's Dad answered, "All great artists are insane."
Mollie --
Your kids are sure cute -- I still say that Shawn Padraigh is going to be a deep one -- Rosie is going to rely on her looks to get what she wants (& succeed)
http://thumbsnap.com/v/L3av5lxa.jpg
For those who aren't intelligent enough to do a simple Google search, here it is.
love | 12.01.06 - 9:00 pm | #
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice," as Barry Goldwater once said.
Hey, Prior A!
How's this for spitting in the IRS's eye:
All Saints Church is hosting John Edwards next week as he passes through on his book tour.
then you deserve to be parted with your money.
watertiger | Homepage | 12.01.06
Here's a twist on that one, it involves sniping
.
(I found out that Taylor's nanny makes more than I do, which depressed the hell out of me for a couple of days.)
That pretty totally sucks.
love | 12.01.06 - 9:00 pm
in this crowd, sweetie, your pitiful 115 IQ's just a fart in a hurricane...
.
Once. One time. I hit "Publish" once. Haloscan, you evil fool
Now this is one of the great mysteries of life: I love cold coffee but I hate iced coffee. It has to be luke-cold.
Is that some odd European thing?
Don't think so, as my family finds it a disgusting habit.
Michigan State University College Republicans and Young Americans for Freedom sponsored the event.
Bwahahahahaha!!!! College republicans need to be in Iraq.
Google doesn't like you, little man.
Damn you, historymyn! Now I'm hungry!
That pretty totally sucks.
Well, it's kind of a fluke, and she's in NYC, but still. In raw numbers, I'm beneath an illegal Guyanian who watches one child.
"One was spit on, one was kicked, and one was punched," Tancredo said in an e-mail. "Tires were also slashed."
Tancredo said.
Hilarious.
Bwahahahahaha!!!! College republicans need to be in Iraq.
College Republicans deserve to be openly maked as much as possible. They're twits, to a person.
Get 'em pie.
Shirtless Bush seen in 'Brokeback' spoof
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20061...rokeback_parody
MONTREAL - A "Brokeback Mountain" parody airing on Canadian television depicts an unusual type of summit between President Bush and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
In the sketch based on the acclaimed film about a love affair between two cowboys, Harper and Bush are portrayed naked from the waist up in a tent. Images of their faces are pasted over actors' bodies.
At one point, Bush throws cherries at Harper's nipples, which are covered with whipped cream. After the cherries land, separatist politician Andre Boisclair, who cooperated with filming of the spot, is seen opening the tent flap and stiffly saying that Quebec won't get involved "in something like that."
The sketch was filmed for the MusiMax music and entertainment channel but has leaked out to French-language TV stations, upsetting members of the provincial Liberal government of Premier Jean Charest.
"I leave it to Mr. Boisclair to defend his judgment," said Quebec's education minister, Jean-Marc Fournier.
Boisclair, who is gay and the leader of Parti Quebecois, later said he regretted the entire episode: "It's quite obvious I wouldn't do it again."
In raw numbers, I'm beneath an illegal Guyanian who watches one child.
Molly Ivors
Cost of living upstate isn't that much less is it?
Pretty much sucks.
I was promised "fresh thread" and I get this.
"Service economy"...harrumph!
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Gah, that's openly mocked.
I should just pack it in, I swear.
They're twits, to a person.
Molly Ivors
They're cowards and little men/women.
Hey Prior,
Is that a new thumbsnap pic, or am I just behind the times?
flory --
NTodd & I are getting ready to burn each other at the stake over religious practices -- a time honored practice -- if you intervene, we'll turn on you & be reconciled to each other (until the next controversy) -- this is how human society works (according to Rene Girard)
Barndog --
I ran this afternoon -- when I ran under the trees & the wind blew I had to dodge the chunks of ice breaking off the trees -- don't you love Michigan weather (if you don't wait a minute, it'll change)
OK -- I'm going to use our retreat time to get some sleep! Outta here bats -- don't forget to start Advent this weekend!
http://thumbsnap.com/v/Wsw5Dx0K.jpg
The adjunct system is evil. That's all.
One was spit on, one was kicked, and one was punched,"
And this little piggy ran wee, wee, wee, wee all the way home.
Cost of living upstate isn't that much less is it?
Around here it's pretty reasonable, as our industrial base is completely eroded.
Evening, all.
NTodd & I are getting ready to burn each other at the stake over religious practices -- a time honored practice -- if you intervene, we'll turn on you & be reconciled to each other (until the next controversy) -- this is how human society works (according to Rene Girard)
Bah humbug.
May the FSM protect me from the Protestant Wars......
NTodd & I are getting ready to burn each other at the stake over religious practices -- a time honored practice -- if you intervene, we'll turn on you & be reconciled to each other (until the next controversy) -- this is how human society works (according to Rene Girard)
Bah humbug.
May the FSM protect me from the Protestant Wars......
The adjunct system is evil. That's all.
I may be almost out of it, finally. Knock wood.
I would totally love to make Molly.
this is how human society works (according to Rene Girard)
Rene Girard is right.
Buenas dias and bonne nuit, padre...
./
Damn you, historymyn! Now I'm hungry!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 9:06 pm |
These look yummy, as well:
http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/...rch=DC&
tier2=90
http://www.kaldi.com/chocoesp.htm
You only get three trips on the Wayback Machine. How will you use them? Here's one of mine.
Surge again. Bye.
Around here it's pretty reasonable, as our industrial base is completely eroded.
It was never that big there, was it? Corning had the glass works and there was a food presence somewhere near.
It sure is gorgeous country though.
Did someone say "wee wee wee wee"? Does anyone have any idea how offensive I find that to be?
I may be almost out of it, finally. Knock wood.
Molly Ivors
Hoorayh and rejoice!
Is that a new thumbsnap pic, or am I just behind the times?
"Thumbsnaps" will never replace "Gravatars."
Feral -
I promise i'll get back to you.
Understand: I'm a lazy jerk who can't get a negative or two scanned.
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okay strange question:
Anyone watching BSG on Direct Tv? If so , were there SPanish subtitles on your screen too.
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I would totally love to make Molly.
Well, I'm touched, but as you well know, I'm not cute. Plus, two babies in two years at almost-40 has really done a job on me.
When SP weans, I can do serious dieting, but until then, I feel like a lump of mashed potatoes in a chair.
Shirtless Bush seen in 'Brokeback' spoof
The cost of living here is not reasonable. Water is too expensive to drink and lattes are eight dollars a cup.
Feral Liberal --
I rotate among three pix
flory --
A Flying Spaghetti Monster pirate lover! Get her!
NOW I'm gone (honest)
http://thumbsnap.com/v/7fc6HieS.jpg
I feel like a lump of mashed potatoes in a chair.
You are beautiful.
Damn you, historymyn! Now I'm hungry!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage
AH! So that's why my direct TV is screwed up tonight! Placed a hex on me eh?
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NTodd sez:
I would totally love to make Molly.
Cad.
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Did someone say "wee wee wee wee"? Does anyone have any idea how offensive I find that to be?
*giggle*
spork,
Understood and not a problem. Although I could start the digital vs film thing here, but...naw, It's all good.
I may be almost out of it, finally. Knock wood.
Molly Ivors
whoo hoo!! got something lined up?
It was never that big there, was it? Corning had the glass works and there was a food presence somewhere near.
Oh, no, we had huge industry here at one time. IBM was founded here and employed 50,000+ when I was a kid, Link Flight Simulators were made here, and GE Flight Systems. Lotsa aerospace and defense.
Not anymore.
Lou Dobbs, sex? Yech.
olvlzl
I so want to force Lou Dobbs to have gay sex with a bunch of Mexicans
::matthew
I want his kids or grandkids to marry Mexicans.
I feel like a lump of mashed potatoes in a chair.
I happen to like my mashed potatoes lumpy
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You are beautiful.
Ah, you're a doll.
I may be almost out of it, finally. Knock wood.
i'm crossing my toes.
Because I can.
When SP weans, I can do serious dieting, but until then, I feel like a lump of mashed potatoes in a chair.
Molly Ivors
Phfffffttt...
I'm sure the lout would not agree.....
Wrong tense. Corning still has the glass works.
I'm not cute.
Hmmph - and Smart is Sexy!
got something lined up?
Through the first interview, went well, I feel good. I'll know sometime next week, I hope.
I must say, without giving anything away, that I very much appreciate this whole boxing sequence on BSG.
i'm crossing my toes.
Because I can.
That yoga just wows me.
I tried it: I fall over a lot.
Understood and not a problem. Although I could start the digital vs film thing here,
Nah, Mac vs. PC is the way to go.
Just sayin'
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Ah, I see the little fascists are at it again. Exactly what I expect from today's "progressive" (read liberal) Brownshirts.
love
That's nice, dear.
I'll know sometime next week, I hope.
Molly Ivors
I shall cross the odd digit or two as well.....
watertiger sez:
I must say, without giving anything away, that I very much appreciate this whole boxing sequence on BSG.
I don't see it until Sat. night.
NO SPOILERS!
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Link Flight Simulators were made here
My father had one that we used to play in.
My husband tells me that all you say is true. He used to work, briefly, for a company that made portable buildings for Link.
Nah, Mac vs. PC is the way to go.
Charcoal vs Gas. I'm a Weber guy all the way.
That yoga just wows me.
I tried it: I fall over a lot.
Molly Ivors
Vodka is yoga?
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Michigan State University College Republicans and Young Americans for Freedom sponsored the event.
Bwahahahahaha!!!! College republicans need to be in Iraq...
pie | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 9:06 pm |
according to this letter writer in CSM, bad people need to be serving in Iraq. Funny she doesn't mention those who got us into this mess:
Regarding the Nov. 22 article about the draft: Yes, let us bring back the draft. I'm all for getting unemployed 18- to 30-year-old men and women off the streets and off the government dole. Draft them first. Second, empty the jails of the petty criminals by drafting shoplifters, drunken drivers, and vandals. Give them a purpose for their lives. Let them work hard and train hard and become upstanding American citizens.
Teresa T. Gaddy
Morristown, Tenn.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/12...p08s01-
cole.htm
That yoga just wows me.
I tried it: I fall over a lot.
Ah, darls, it's not about maintaining a fancy pose; it's about pushing through the fear of the pose. Falling down is expected and encouraged.
democrats and republicans alike support our glorious 'troops'.
NO SPOILERS!
Not a word. It's just very good, although I have the most minute quarrel with form.
love | 12.01.06 - 9:00 pm
in this crowd, sweetie, your pitiful 115 IQ's just a fart in a hurricane...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
115 IQ?
So he says!
must go check critters on porch ..taking bat in case of rats...beback
Ah, darls, it's not about maintaining a fancy pose; it's about pushing through the fear of the pose. Falling down is expected and encouraged.
watertiger | Homepage | 12.01.06
I am not sure why, but that statement was oddly arrousing.
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democrats and republicans alike support our glorious 'troops'.
So do I. Point?
Vodka is yoga?
Crap. I always mix those up.
Teresa T. Gaddy
Morristown, Tenn.
Let's start with YOUR kids, Uber-Patriot.
It's just very good, although I have the most minute quarrel with form.
watertiger
There's always a discussion over at First Draft. Nitpicks are encouraged....
Ah, darls, it's not about maintaining a fancy pose; it's about pushing through the fear of the pose. Falling down is expected and encouraged.
watertiger
Tigre, you might be able to help me on this question I have:
I'd like to try youga sometimes but I'm worried, because the years of tai chi mean that my energy stuff works a lot more than it did before the training. I imagine trying some move and blowing up like a rocket or something. So the question is: Do the yoga teachers know about stuff like that and do they take it into account in the training?
If NTodd broke the ice is it time for Friday Cat Blogging?
Let them work hard and train hard and become upstanding American citizens.
Teresa T. Gaddy
Morristown, Tenn.
By teaching them to kill for a sociopath in an illegal vanity war?
Is this bitch nuts?
Second, empty the jails of the petty criminals by drafting shoplifters, drunken drivers, and vandals. Give them a purpose for their lives. Let them work hard and train hard and become upstanding American citizens.
Teresa Gaddy
In the early 70's, Teresa would have been bitching about people like George W. Bush.
Stupid woman.
"Second, empty the jails of the petty criminals by drafting shoplifters, drunken drivers, and vandals."
Well that certainly is a fight force worthy of defending the country.
One set can remove all the trinkets they run across because we know a country cannot fight without it's trinkets.
Another set can create chaos by inciting road rage and slowing down late night traffic as they weave about.
And the last, well let me tell you, the demoralizing factor of tagging and tp-ing an enemy city is formidable.
it's about pushing through the fear of the pose. Falling down is expected and encouraged.
Hmmm. Sounds like my kind of form, since I fall over all the time.
Oh this sucks, trying to Tivo BSG for later DVD making and I have the SPanish translation on the bottom! ARRRRRGH! Hope its not on the TiVO recording.
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Not a word. It's just very good, although I have the most minute quarrel with form.
I just got my mother hooked on the show.
I consider this a good thing.
(Being as loopy as I am, watching it 24 hours after everyone else, I'm sure I'd love to here what your quarrel is. But too late. Sigh.)
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If NTodd broke the ice is it time for Friday Cat Blogging?
I didn't break anything--it was like that when I got here.
By teaching them to kill for a sociopath in an illegal vanity war?
It's the American Way...IOKIYAR!
Also, my monitor needs nose repellent again.
historyman,
Is there a setting on your TiVO to turn the subtitles off?
Hmmm. Sounds like my kind of form, since I fall over all the time.
Molly Ivors
That's what happens when 436 munchkins are hanging all over you....
I imagine trying some move and blowing up like a rocket or something. So the question is: Do the yoga teachers know about stuff like that and do they take it into account in the training?
It depends on the style you choose. A good yogi can help you channel the energy. Your breathing is central to the pratice, so as long as you maintain a steady flow. If you have a lot of energy, I'd recommend ashtanga style.
"So do I. Point?
NTodd, Syncopated "
point is the 'troops' are corporate mercs.
Bill Moyers is covering Jack Abramhoff's political/criminal career on PBS tonight--at least, it's on now on Ch. 13, NYC PBS.
Per Zap2It, it's being repeated tomorrow morning at 6:30am.
What's behind the Red Door?
In DC, it's nothing like Elizebeth Arden--very stinky in DC.
For the record, I would prefer increased cash payments to the poor, such as a much-expanded earned income tax credit (EITC) or a more general negative income tax.
dave
And for feeding a whole family for a month on a pound of tofu?
Thanks, watertiger. I'll look around locally to see what is available.
That's what happens when 436 munchkins are hanging all over you....
Oh, I wish I could blame them, but my klutziness is longstanding.
Being as loopy as I am, watching it 24 hours after everyone else, I'm sure I'd love to here what your quarrel is. But too late. Sigh.)
Just placement of gloves, is all. But that is probably more my training than whoever the producers used as a consultant.
point is the 'troops' are corporate mercs.
That's a non sequitur. And they aren't corporate mercs, you fuckwit.
Echidne,
Forgive the sentence fragment. I got distracted by the teebee.
What I was trying to say is that so long as you keep a steady flow to your breath, your energy will be steady.
point is the 'troops' are corporate mercs.
Mercenaries get paid better.
Blackwater's gonna pay.
Hmmm. Sounds like my kind of form, since I fall over all the time.
HAHAHAHA! Mollyasa Yoga.
Oh, I wish I could blame them, but my klutziness is longstanding.
Molly Ivors
First "lumpy", now "klutzy"?
This will not do. Not at all. You are neither.
point is the 'troops' are corporate mercs.
Right, ask the average GI what he's getting paid. Then survey a few Blackstone hires.
If NTodd broke the ice is it time for Friday Cat Blogging?
FeralLiberal
Ayup, especially if it involves one drenched kitty.
Pie,
I owe you a coke.
Fresh? This is fresh??
Whazzup?
Let them work hard and train hard and become upstanding American citizens.
Teresa T. Gaddy
Morristown, Tenn.
Dear Ms. Gaddy,
You, first.
Oops, it's Blackwater, Blackstone is a California winery.
This will not do. Not at all. You are neither.
Seconded.
"Fresh? This is fresh??"
yeah, total bullshit.
cancel my account!
"I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Doesn't sound like a merc to me.
Catch yinz laters, all!
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Givj Nidj!
Which is Fuck Bush with fingers offset by one.
Vodka is yoga?
If so, I'm a yogini.
Oops, it's Blackwater, Blackstone is a California winery.
So you owe me nothing.
I'm out. Have a good one.
especially if it involves one drenched kitty.
Well here's the story...
Pippin found out something last Sat, and so did I. She can swim. Had the canoe in the river, and the cats were on the bank. I held tight to the shore and managed to convice Pippin to get in with me. She was looking off the other side as I eased away from the bank. She turned around, realized she was in the middle of the river and got on the edge of the canoe. Just as I managed to shout "Pippin, No" she made a mighty leap for shore, which of course pushed the canoe the other way. She landed a good 4 feet from the bank with a great splash, in about 5 feet of water. Before I even had time to react, she was swimming steadily for the rocks and was up in the yard in a flash. At this point all I could do was roar with laughter.
Here's a pic of the aftermath.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim December 2006 as National Drunk and Drugged
Which means he will spend the month drunk and Pickles will spend it drugged.
For those not in at the start of the thread, here's my Friday Cat Blogging.
"Two days later, he held his now infamous press conference in Rome where he shattered illusions of James Bond style espionage by revealing he had eaten at Pizza Hut before meeting Litvinenko. Again this to me seemed strange - a true Neapolitan would never dream of having pizza anywhere but Naples, let alone set foot in Pizza Hut."
Funniest thing I read this evening.
Dear Ms. Gaddy,
You, first.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Yeah. Funny how its always someone else should go, innit?
This will not do. Not at all. You are neither.
Seconded.
Ah, you guys are sweet.
"Here's a pic of the aftermath."
great pic!
I like Pippin's mohawk, as I noted earlier.
Here's a pic of the aftermath.
HEY! We're not all meant for the sea.
great pic!
I stole NTodd's patented "Blurry" effect.
I wonder where our hosts kitties are. Been awhile for them....
Dear Ms. Gaddy,
You, first.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Yeah. Funny how its always someone else should go, innit?
flory
Well, someone has to stay home and protest outside family planning clinics, you know.
"I stole NTodd's patented "Blurry" effect."
oh, he does that on purpose? figured he just had lensbuggers...
Well, Thers claims he's lonely for my company. I'd better head off. Thanks for the good wishes & thoughts all.
We're not all meant for the sea.
Some of us are just more salty than the others...
I stole NTodd's patented "Blurry" effect.
FeralLiberal
He charges a license fee.....
Well, Thers claims he's lonely for my company.
Oh, keerist. That'll be another ragged urchin.....
He charges a license fee.....
Oh, bother, now he's gonna get shrill on me.
Well, Thers claims he's lonely for my company.
Goddamn sex-crazed hippies...
That'll be another ragged urchin.....
. . . . or three.
Paris By Night.
Be sure to scroll across.
Anyone else hear this 4-star* asshat on NPR and his bewailing everyone's turn from "audacity" in persuing war in Iraq
* denotes chickenhawk asshat rating, not military rank.
Family planning clinics can suck my cock.
Anyone else hear this 4-star* asshat on NPR and his bewailing everyone's turn from "audacity" in persuing war in Iraq
* denotes chickenhawk asshat rating, not military rank.
bo |
How dare the American people get tired of seeing people killed for nothing?
Phila,
So gorgeous.
the last time our country was invaded, 1812.
still, we spend $500, 000, 000, 000 on 'defense'.
Family planning clinics can suck my cock.
bold
You won't have to worry about either.
Paris by night can lick my asshole.
Phila
Cool, I got to see Notre Dame a couple of years ago, but not by night.
RE; The Weather.
I'm in Boston. It's December 1st. It's 65 degrees outside right now.
The livingroom window is wide open.
I'm enjoying this a lot!
Thanks for that Paris by night, Phila. I feel so nostalgic now.
Paris By Night.
Be sure to scroll across.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Very pretty.
And I like the music. 
For those not in at the start of the thread, here's my Friday Cat Blogging. - Diane C. Barking-Mad
I'd like to see him on the panel of a Senate Investigative Committee next year. "Mr. Rove, do not feed me bullshit."
CALLER ON LARRY KING LIVE ASKS WHY LEWIS BLACK ISN'T MARRIED. BLACK SAYS HE'S SET IN HIS WAYS, AND PEOPLE NEED TO STAY OUT OF HIS WAY.
I'm enjoying this a lot!
Chris Tucker
Been there, done that: enjoying the 10 inches of freshly-fallen snow now.
Oh, what would an evening be without jack shouting about what's on Larry King.
LARRY KING ASKS LEWIS BLACK WHY HE DOESN'T PLAY UP HIS IVY LEAGUE STATUS. BLACK SAYS YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT ANGLE.
The Washington Supreme Court just ruled that citizens have a right to keep and bear arms under both the Washington state and federal constitutions and the Kentucky Supreme Court recently found the same thing, with regard to the Kentucky and the federal constitutions.
So fuck off you fascist anti-gun scumbags.
enjoying the 10 inches of freshly-fallen snow now.
I sent it across the lake just for you, DWD.
Paris By Night.
Be sure to scroll across.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 9:51 pm
Phila, bless you, you just saved me some time with The Google. I'd bookmarked this photog's site about 3 years back, when I was downloading pictures for screensavers. Computer died and I forget to back up favorites, and I knew I wanted to find this site again.
BLACK SAYS THE IVY LEAGUE IS BULLSHIT, A BUNCH OF ELITES INTERMARRYING.
I just read the Glenn Greenwald appreciation of Tom Friedman that Atrios linked to 2 items down. I agree with almost everything Greenwald writes, but where ever did he get the notion that Friedman "is, of course, still today, one of the most universally revered figures around ... "
Who other than the rest of the circle jerk that is Washington journamalism and the NY Times editorial board revers Friedman? Seriously, would the NY Times sell one less newspaper if it dropped Friedman? Ig he were to mover to X (you pick it), wold it sell one more copy?
I realize news sales are not the be-all and end-all of the news biz, but really, who -- other than Tom Friedman himself and his coterie of cvabbies -- revers Tom Friedman?
Paris by night can lick my asshole.
bold | 12.01.06 - 9:53 pm | #
I'm sure they'll be happy to, as long as you say "Voulez-vous lécher mon oignon?"
Paris By Night.
Be sure to scroll across.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
OMG, what an incredible shot!
BLACK SAYS MOST KIDS GO TO COLLEGE TO MAJOR IN BUSINESS. BLACK SAYS THE BUSINESS MAJOR IS THE PHONIEST MAJOR.
Vodka is yoga?
If so, I'm a yogini.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
But a Martini is made with Gin!
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Computer died and I forget to back up favorites, and I knew I wanted to find this site again.
Buckeye, Blue State | 12.01.06 - 9:58 pm | #
Coolsville, daddy-o.
"I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
so what's the question? our troops aren't defending the constitution, and in fact are defaming it by following illegal orders and going completely against the UCMJ, even if they aren't making kids run after water or shooting pregnant women. that oath gives the lie to this whole fuckup, doesn't it? and what is god doing in there? So maybe they aren't paid as well as Blackwater psychopaths, but they certainly aren't making me proud to support them. they are making the world safe for Hallibuton and oil profits, seems to me. I realize they are the victims of the state and its corporate masters here, but where does it stop? Has one lost life been justified in any way? not in Iraq, that's for damn sure. Bushco has co-opted our armed forces in the most cynical way, and they are just tools of opression, yet we should support them? How? Besides bringing them home yesterday, that is. It's a quandary. I feel very sorry for them, but there's no rah rah here, and the thousands that have gone AWOL are the courageous ones, AFAIC. and they had damn well better be given amnesty. this wingnut bullshit about them being volunteers is another coward's way out for them. it's disgusting in the extreme.
Why do rightards ASSUME that all liberals are anti-gun?
Kyle,
reason is not a bad thing. At the time of the Constitution a gun was a muzzle loader that worked about 80% of the time and was accurate up to 20 feet.
So, we take the law written when these were the standards and apply this same law laser-guided machine guns with armor piercing bullets and a silencer.
Does anything seem logically amiss here?
(I agree: people have the right to keep and hold their muzzle-loaders and blunderbusses)
Sadly, people do buy Tom Friedman's books.
OMG, what an incredible shot!
Mais ouais!!!
I realize news sales are not the be-all and end-all of the news biz, but really, who -- other than Tom Friedman himself and his coterie of cvabbies -- revers Tom Friedman? -Zealot
I saw all kinds of sarcasm dripping of Greenwald's post when I read that.
Since their inception in the mid-1990s, blogs have multiplied exponentially. Nowadays a new Internet diary is launched every second, and the number of blogs doubles every five months. Forty-one percent are in Japanese, 28 percent in English and 14 percent in Chinese. The German contribution to a many-faceted "blogosphere" uninhibited by convention lies at a mere 1 percent, leading the German blogger community to ironically and self-desparagingly refer to itself as a kind of blogging backwater.
Heh, fucking Krauts.
Sadly, people do buy Tom Friedman's books.
Karin | 12.01.06 - 10:00 pm | #
He's considered a pretty serious thinker in some of the circles I'm obliged to move in, and a representative of "classical liberalism."
It's pretty painful to listen to.
dripping off.
Obviously in need of a Seething Webb.
Paris by night can lick my asshole.
bold | 12.01.06 - 9:53 pm | #
I'm sure they'll be happy to, as long as you say "Voulez-vous lécher mon oignon?"
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Trollie probably means Paris Hilton.
I stole NTodd's patented "Blurry" effect.
Obvious ideas, sadly, are not patentable.
even libruls agree that WTC 7 collapsed all by itself.
CALLER ON LARRY KING LIVE ASKS WHY LEWIS BLACK ISN'T MARRIED. BLACK SAYS HE'S SET IN HIS WAYS, AND PEOPLE NEED TO STAY OUT OF HIS WAY.
Don't be silly. He's secretly married to me. Everyone knows that.
Trollie probably means Paris Hilton.
Terry C, American Once More | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 10:06 pm | #
In that case, all he has to do is praise her CD.
Whoa.
Diane doen't do anything by half-measures, that much is certain.
When that girl casually mentions that by the way she's got a catblog up, man you betcha there's a freakin CAT there
Niiiiiice kitty. Good kitty.
Stay kitty.
(tiptoe.....)
=*=
Whoa.
Diane doen't do anything by half-measures, that much is certain.
When that girl casually mentions that by the way she's got a catblog up, man you betcha there's a freakin CAT there
Niiiiiice kitty. Good kitty.
Stay kitty.
(tiptoe.....)
=*=
CNN has a special report on al queda's penetration into Turkey and a live report from what is said to be the house of the virgin mary.
And what's wrong with registering your guns so that law enforcement can trace them once they've been used in a crime? Your paranoia is bigger than your dick, or you wouldn't be such a defensive whack-job, Kyle. I suppose you'll be real happy when your kid takes your gun to school and blows away half his class and himself.
Obviously in need of a Seething Webb.
bo
Don't bother asking... I was already leaving.
I suppose you'll be real happy when your kid takes your gun to school and blows away half his class and himself.
ronjazz, fascist commenter
No way that happens if all the kids have guns.
I suppose you'll be real happy when your kid takes your gun to school and blows away half his class and himself.
ronjazz, fascist commenter
Sure he will.
Especially if he shoots a lot of non-white, non-Christian classmates.
Obvious ideas, sadly, are not patentable.
photobuttons, on the other hand...
CNN has a special report on al queda's penetration into Turkey and a live report from what is said to be the house of the virgin mary.
krux
Well, come back and tell me if they say Al Qaeda penetrated the Virgin Mary.
CNN has a special report on al queda's penetration into Turkey and a live report from what is said to be the house of the virgin mary.
krux | 12.01.06 - 10:07 pm | #
Geraldo Rivera has an interesting expose on Incog, that shows him posting bullshit on Eschaton threads in an attempt to make people as bored and unhappy as he is.
No way that happens if all the kids have guns.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
I miss the good old days.
CNN has a message for Pope Benedict from the man that tried to assasinated Pope John Paul...
'I know what i'm talking about, your life is in danger.'
So, al-qaeda has penetrated the Virgin Mary. Didn't realize they were into necrophila
Geraldo Rivera has an interesting expose on Incog, that shows him posting bullshit on Eschaton threads in an attempt to make people as bored and unhappy as he is.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
WHY is he bothering watching the Conservative Nonsense Network?
What a waste of electricity.
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Truth | 12.01.06 - 10:07 pm
Thanks, Truth.
The Florida Panther was on the endangered list (last I checked), which breaks my heart.
So many animals going...dammit all to hell.
Well, come back and tell me if they say Al Qaeda penetrated the Virgin Mary.
Terry C, American Once More
heh. well-played.
Cool! The Soup has an exclusive interview with Britney Spears' underpants.
"Have there been any signs that she was about to break up with you?"
"Yes, she started going out all night, leaving me home alone... (sobbing) I feel like her kids!"
Why do rightards ASSUME that all liberals are anti-gun?
Terry C, American Once More
Fuck it. You guys won the gun thing, okay?
Knock yourselves out.
So, al-qaeda has penetrated the Virgin Mary. Didn't realize they were into necrophila
bo
Or fictional characters.
Slides Terry C the Seething Webb in lieu of a coke.
Bartender, another please.
And what's wrong with registering your guns so that law enforcement can trace them once they've been used in a crime?
Funny how that works, huh? Warrantless wiretapping and no-fly lists are A-OK, 'cause the innocent have nothing to fear.
Gun registration? Intolerable. 'Cause after all, the government might overstep its bounds someday.
Pope Benedict is a very courageous man.
Why do rightards ASSUME that all liberals are anti-gun?
Terry C, American Once More
Fuck it. You guys won the gun thing, okay?
Knock yourselves out.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
I didn't say I was FOR guns, either.
I was just commenting how trolls stereotype us.
The right of the people as a "well regulated militia" to keep and bear arms was meant at the time as a bulwark against tyranny. When the tyrants bear M-16s, should the people bear blunderbusses?
Slides Terry C the Seething Webb in lieu of a coke.
Bartender, another please.
bo
(Raises the glass in a salute)
D'ja see my attack on Altmouse, Thers? I've taken a vow never to link to her.
Benedict is highlighting the doctrine of reciprocity. The Muslim world heretofore has refused to allow christian churches in their domains. Unlike Rome, that houses one of the largest mosques in the world. Fair point.
Bartender, another please.
bo
:: Cold-cocks nearest bystander resembling a Republican ::
"Don't bother asking, bartender... I was already on my way out."
The PopenFuhrer is a master of projection.
Why do rightards ASSUME that all liberals are anti-gun?
Terry C, American Once More
Fuck it. You guys won the gun thing, okay?
Knock yourselves out.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Well I'm anti-handgun, and anti-assault rifle, and liberal. And I'm quite prepared to defend that position against any rightards who might wish to attack it.
This thread is fresh like a Republican is honorable.
-
Bartender, another please.
bo
:: Cold-cocks nearest bystander resembling a Republican ::
"Don't bother asking, bartender... I was already on my way out."
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
When the tyrants bear M-16s, should the people bear blunderbusses?
I want a fully armed Blackhawk, it's my Consitutional Right!
Scary thought:
teachers packing heat.
Sadly, people do buy Tom Friedman's books. - Karin
If it was mandated that each of his books be sold with a CD of him talking for 10 minutes, no one would ever make the misake of buying a second book by him. He's a bubbling, blabbering idiot.
When the tyrants bear M-16s, should the people bear blunderbusses?
sidhra
The M-16 is the least of the tyrant's weapons. Do you want the general populace armed with RPG-9's ? Daisy cutters? Nukes? The founding fathers could not possibly have imagined the destructive power that would be readily available to the people of the future.
Well, it would be if I could spell it right...
The Florida Panther was on the endangered list (last I checked), which breaks my heart.
So many animals going...dammit all to hell.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Dirty hippie tree huggers. You care more about animals than (sob) blastocyst-Americans.
/wingnut
Pope Benedict is a very courageous man.
krux | 12.01.06 - 10:13 pm | #
Actually, he is brave man. He risked quite a bit on that trip, not the least being possibly his life. He will be crucified and pilloried over the coming months by the rightists of both Catholic and Protestant persuasion for praying at the mosque. They thought they had one of their own in there. Like Muslims, I was pleasantly surprised at how he comported himself.
The Constitution says nothing about standing armies, which deprives the militia language of most of its meaning.
Well I'm anti-handgun, and anti-assault rifle, and liberal. And I'm quite prepared to defend that position against any rightards who might wish to attack it.
blerb
We can all be as "anti" as we like. I don't own 'em, don't want 'em, don't tend to respect those who do.
But what kind of realistic legislation would you like to see passed given the incredible proliferation of weapons already on the street? What would it accomplish?
Does it matter? I'm not sure it does anymore. That battle's lost as sure as Iraq.
Since the November 7 election, I put my gun away.
The Muslim world heretofore has refused to allow christian churches in their domains.
You ignorant slut.
even libruls agree that WTC 7 collapsed all by itself.
Eat your pudding, gary.
Benedict is highlighting the doctrine of reciprocity. The Muslim world heretofore has refused to allow christian churches in their domains. Unlike Rome, that houses one of the largest mosques in the world. Fair point.
krux | 12.01.06 - 10:15 pm | #
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This, on the other hand, is totally fucking wrong.
I do care about my dogs more than I care about some humans. For example if I had to choose between a cute border collie and a snarling Cheney, I would not need any time to consider.
"He will be crucified and pilloried over the coming months by the rightists of both Catholic and Protestant persuasion for praying at the mosque. They thought they had one of their own in there."
They do.
Wait till someone brings up women's or gay rights.
I want a fully armed Blackhawk, it's my Consitutional Right!
As part of a "well regulated militia", it certainly is.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
photobuttons, on the other hand...
watertiger
I was very proud of myself for avoiding the obvious photobutton comment.
Trust you.......
this thread is as fresh as my little sister.
I do care about my dogs more than I care about some humans. For example if I had to choose between a cute border collie and a snarling Cheney, I would not need any time to consider.
Troutski
A pet's love is unconditional.
The Constitution says nothing about standing armies, which deprives the militia language of most of its meaning.
I'd like to stand on your head.
It takes great courage to go from being a good obedient German soldier to being Pope.
You ignorant slut.
Karin | 12.01.06 - 10:20 pm | #
Come now...who ever heard of a Christian church in, say, Syria?
Damn, wish I was enough of a mixologist to figure out how to make a Seething Webb.
Conceptually, it's served flaming, roils in the glass and has plenty of bite. If it finishes like SteveLG suggests, it will do a lot to set things right in this country.
The truth is that if it comes to a shooting confrontation between the people and the military, the people will lose.
That is the ultimate fallacy in their argument. Governments derive their power from the consent of the governed. The answer to tyrany is not more weapons or right-wing-fucktard fantasies. Truth is that the answer is expressing your opinion freely and openly.
Taking the time to call attention to those who lie so pervasively. Casting blame, where blame is due. (Not deflecting it constantly.)
Violence confronting violence begats more violence. The rule of the people is not enforced by weapons, but by the will of the people to not be misled.
But what kind of realistic legislation would you like to see passed given the incredible proliferation of weapons already on the street? What would it accomplish?
I think it would be great to at least insure that the posession of weapons was restricted to law-abiding citizens. I think the "well-regulated" part of that covers those types of restrictions. ALl ballistic weapons should be registered, and the right to own them should be contingent upon being on the right side of the law. The second amendsmet was about police forces and state militias, not criminals and cult whackos.
If it finishes like SteveLG suggests, it will do a lot to set things right in this country.
bo
The key to the Seething Webb is the chaser.
Scary thought:
teachers packing heat.
Troutski
Scary for the school district insurance companies. I'd hate to try and defend the first teacher shoots and unarmed student.....
I was very proud of myself for avoiding the obvious photobutton comment.
:-P
Hey, I like Pope Rat. He reminds me of that Kramer guy.
Well, I'm stepping out for the evening. Go look at my nudibranch, if you haven't already.
this thread is as fresh as my little sister.
As fresh as K-Lo's bloomers at a Mitt Romney book signing.
Interesting FDL post on Polonium-210 ...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/...n-polonium-210/
Come now...who ever heard of a Christian church in, say, Syria?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Syr...Orthodox_Church
look at my nudibranch, if you haven't already.
It's nice, but not as nice as Hecate's bazooms, I'm afraid.
D'ja see my attack on Altmouse, Thers? I've taken a vow never to link to her.
Heh, I've been unable to do much online stuff today, lemme head over there.
I heard a rumor today that Altmouse is miffed at all the breastblogging going on right around now, so I hope you have no breastblogging at Bouphonia.
Hey, I like Pope Rat. He reminds me of that Kramer guy.
Troutski
He and Rummy look as though they were exhumed at the same time.
I think the "well-regulated" part of that covers those types of restrictions. ALl ballistic weapons should be registered, and the right to own them should be contingent upon being on the right side of the law.
Agreed. Completely agreed.
And what's wrong with registering your guns so that law enforcement can trace them once they've been used in a crime? Your paranoia is bigger than your dick, or you wouldn't be such a defensive whack-job, Kyle. I suppose you'll be real happy when your kid takes your gun to school and blows away half his class and himself.
ronjazz, fascist commenter
Look Ron. I'm a liberal, but I believe ww2 was a just war. I'm a pacifist, but I eat meat and I like shooting .22's and shotguns, at targets. I enjoy the skill involved. I got my NRA sharpshooters at 13. Bow and arrow takes alot of skill and I'm not bad at it. I cried like a baby when I accidentally hit a fawn one black night with my car, but when my pal has his full moon party I am the first to throw his strips of venison on the grill, and I relish them. There is a difference between reasonably sane freedom and unfettered savagery. Reasonably sane freedom is tossed away when we register everything and everyone simply because there are unfettered savages out there. Making the world entirely, perfectly, and unquestionably "safe" is the line, after which crossed, actual Freedom, Liberty, and Sanity ends, and where real totalitarian naziism begins. We cannot limit ourselves in the name of freedom. Either we are free or we are afraid. I choose Freedom.
=*=
well, you can get your own fully-armed Blackhawk, you just have to join the militia.
Go look at my nudibranch
*sigh*
Well, if we can't have Atrikitties, at least we have nudibranchi....
Polonium-210? it's yours for $69, no questions asked
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/art...,2-
2478908.html
The radioactive poison used to kill the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko is being offered for sale over the internet for less than £40.
A company in the US claims to supply polonium-210 to anyone for just $69 plus postage and packing. A three-pack set of “alpha, beta, gamma” radioactive isotopes also includes polonium-210.
United Nuclear, based in Albuquerque, New Mexico, tells purchasers: “If you’re looking for clean, accurate, certified radiation sources, here they are. . . All isotopes are produced fresh in a nuclear reactor and shipped directly to you.”
The company says that it has supplied radioactive materials to “the science hobbyist”, businesses, government bodies and teachers since 1998. “We specialise in small orders.” United Nuclear assures customers that they run no risk of being tipped off to the US Department for Homeland Security.
All ballistic weapons should be registered, and the right to own them should be contingent upon being on the right side of the law.
I agree that registration and licensing are reasonable, minimal requirements for instruments of death.
But do you hear anyone seriously advocating even this minimal, niggling impingement on gun ownership?
I'm inclined to give up on legislative gun control and till fields that are more likely to bear fruit. YMMV.
And if it needs to be reiterated, I agree with your point of view.
You have to read the entire constitution, which is separating
the civil and military powers.
The constitution says nothing about the federal government raising a massive national military force, which at the time was seen as a precondition of tyranny, and still is.
peace out, you ramekins of piscine integritude.
We cannot limit ourselves in the name of freedom. Either we are free or we are afraid. I choose Freedom.
=*=
Truth
You have a drivers' license and your car is registered. Surely you have no objections to being licensed to own your guns and registering them as well, do you?
I heard a rumor today that Altmouse is miffed at all the breastblogging going on right around now,
And, yet, she refuses to link to me.
Polonium-210? it's yours for $69, no questions asked
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/art...,2- 2478908.html
The radioactive poison used to kill the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko is being offered for sale over the internet for less than £40.
The amounts are ridiculously small, IIRC...no threat to anybody.
Interestingly, though, the guy selling this stuff is Bob Lazar, of "I reverse-engineered a UFO at Area 51 fame." Go figure.
Interesting FDL post on Polonium-210 ...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/...n-polonium-210/
Richard
That guy is mostly full of shit. Mercury is not a metalloid, it is a metal, straight up. Polonium does have a tendency to volatilize, but it can't tunnel throuigh solid lead.
You have a drivers' license and your car is registered. Surely you have no objections to being licensed to own your guns and registering them as well, do you?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
You're right.
which at the time was seen as a precondition of tyranny, and still is.
kr | 12.01.06 - 10:29 pm
Check the preamble and that whole Commander and Chief thinghy.
.
And what's wrong with registering your guns so that law enforcement can trace them once they've been used in a crime? Your paranoia is bigger than your dick, or you wouldn't be such a defensive whack-job, Kyle. I suppose you'll be real happy when your kid takes your gun to school and blows away half his class and himself.
ronjazz, fascist commenter | 12.01.06 - 10:07 pm | #
ronjizz, go finish polishing your mother's asshole you useless nutsack.
I'm inclined to give up on legislative gun control and till fields that are more likely to bear fruit. YMMV...
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Oh, I agree with that. There are much more important areas to concentrate on right now. And the best cure for gun violence is social justice. more than any laws.
ronjizz, go finish polishing your mother's asshole you useless nutsack.
Kyle
Says the troll from the safety of HIS momma's basement.
ronjizz, go finish polishing your mother's asshole you useless nutsack.
Kyle
I hadn't thought of it that way. You make a very compelling point.
Well, I'm stepping out for the evening.
Every Friday night, just like clockwork.
Well, I'm stepping out for the evening.
Every Friday night, just like clockwork.
Good night, you brilliant Moonbats. Sweet dreams.
well, Truth, that's an interesting point of view, but I think that freedom means being free of the fear of being shot at and having no recourse through the law because the bullet or weapon can't be traced. There is nothing about registering your .22 that would prevent you from target shooting, hunting or any other legal activity. Making the world "safe" was not on my agenda; I know better. Bringing criminals to justice is, however, a pretty good way of limiting the savagery. You want to trade your fun for my safety, and I don't want to take your fun, but I do deserve my safety. Balance is what I want, not guarantees. If some jackass shoots me, I want him in jail and his weapon off the street. that's pretty reasonable, and registration is lierally the only way to do that. The FBI has a ballistics report on every weapon they issue, so they can create an accurate report on a shooting incident. It's not for safety, it's common sense. We license drivers and register cars, because they are dangerous, deadly machines if misused. As are guns. i don't care how many you have, or if you like to plink or hunt; that's fine with me, as I like to think I live in a free country. but if you mistakenly kill my kid, I'd like to know about it. Pretty simple, really, without the left-right extremism.
You have a drivers' license and your car is registered. Surely you have no objections to being licensed to own your guns and registering them as well, do you?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
I agree with the drivers' license, screw the rest.
.
The amounts are ridiculously small, IIRC...no threat to anybody.
You don't exactly need a lot...
"The Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico describes polonium-210 as 250 billion times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide. "
The militia clause is simply a promise not to attack whoever was deemed a citizen at the time. Aliens didn't have this right, not even the right to life. They were free to die at the hands of the new model army.
That is the ultimate fallacy in their argument. Governments derive their power from the consent of the governed. The answer to tyrany is not more weapons
Would it were so. The American colonists did not end British rule by expressing opinions, nor was Louis XVI overthrown by Rousseau's philosophical opinions, or the Czar by letters of complaint. When tyranny becomes so overbearing as to ignore the consent of the governed, the governed need a means to overthrow that tyranny by force equal to that employed by the tyrant. Even Gandhi's India leveraged its liberation through the distinct threat, if not use, of force. I wish this were not so.
Kyle, brilliant! Exactly what I would expect from the likes of you. Thanks for not disappointing. And also for the compelling discussion.
And on the gun thing, when I say "on the right side of the law" I don't mean that you can never have been busted with a joint or anything. I mean violent crimes.
Well, I don't feel that talkative tonight, so I guess I'll head out too.
Hey, you can only sweep it under the rug for so long.......
http://www.comcast.net/news/
nati...itn_churchabuse
Register the nudibrachs!
And on the gun thing, when I say "on the right side of the law" I don't mean that you can never have been busted with a joint or anything. I mean violent crimes.
blerb
We tax evaders are grateful.
Speaking of dangerous weapons, it's time for me to go shoot up some virtual Lego beings with my son. 'Night, batses.
Don't let the door hit ya in the ass, and hope to see ya in Den Hague, Stevie.
A blistering new report in the British paper, The Guardian, which includes an interview with Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general of the Iraq reconstruction, found that:
* Oil smuggling is the region's top problem
* 9 billion in oil revues are unaccounted for
* American incompetence in handling weapons may have helped arm the insurgents and death squads
and
* Contractors continue to make a killing, with nobody being held accountable.
"Corruption: The 'Second Insurgency' In Iraq"
http://scootmandubious.blogspot....cy-in-
iraq.html
Register Newt Gringrich! Box him up & ship him to Jalisco, too, while we're at it!
Don't let the door hit ya in the ass, and hope to see ya in Den Hague, Stevie.
bo
"Goin' down the Netherlands
Gonna get my Cambone boiled..."
sing da blooz, man.
Register Newt Gingrich! Box him up & ship him to Jalisco, too, while we're at it!
Tacitus Voltaire
Can't we just shoot him into the sun?
"Goin' down the Netherlands
Gonna get my Cambone boiled..."
Done laid around DC so long
Mah li'l ol' Cambone got spoiled...
(forgot the best part)
Can't we just shoot him into the sun?
Terry C, American Once More | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 10:49 pm
we can't risk the possibility that the sun would become idiotic and conceited from newt-contamination
Radiation found in more people:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...5302DE5B4E7.htm
Can't we just shoot him into the sun?
Terry C, American Once More | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 10:49 pm
we can't risk the possibility that the sun would become idiotic and conceited from newt-contamination
Tacitus Voltaire
True, dat!
Can't we just shoot him into the sun?
Soon as fourlegsgood has his regitered Atlas rocket ready, yes, we can.
You have a drivers' license and your car is registered. Surely you have no objections to being licensed to own your guns and registering them as well, do you?
Which Amendment covers cars?
Which Amendment covers cars?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
The IGottaHaveACar,Dad Amendment
Which Amendment covers cars?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
You actually gonna make this argument, or shall we just wave in a friendly manner and move on?
You have a drivers' license and your car is registered. Surely you have no objections to being licensed to own your guns and registering them as well, do you?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
I object on moral grounds to intrusive invasive impingements on fundamental freedom, and I don't care if the impingers call themselves nazis or hippies. What matters to me is the impingement. Live And Let Live, Don't Tread On Me, Your Right To Free Speech Ends At The Tip Of My Nose, however you want to put it. Freedom is not a word to be taken lightly. It is the most important word, and the most important thing, or quality, or state of being which we posess, by birthright. This is why rfid and like technologys are so nightmarish. This was the stuff of 50's and 60's science fiction, some very good stuff, but we are now arriving at the threshold of these realities. Our choices here may determine the scope of choice itself, and really they already have. Technology has an irreductible sway over us. We have to recognize this and act accordingly in order to preserve what originally gave us our singular Humanity itself, namely the right to choose. That is how I define freedom. Once we start down the path of registering guns it cannot be long before we start registering waterguns. Let's work on registering and rewarding the good we do rather than hypocritically profiting from the sales of guns to every man woman and child and pretending that registering them represents some sort of effective check on their abuse. They are abused for a reason. Let's work to address those reasons, not delude ourselves that safety comes from regulating every millimeter of human existance. That's not safety, that's a nightmare as bad or worse than the one registering everything will ultimately lead to. Let's be free, and sane, and humane, and peaceful, and tolerant, and let us not brook tyranny of any color or stripe.
=*=
The Constitution said nothing about deodorant either.
You have a drivers' license and your car is registered. Surely you have no objections to being licensed to own your guns and registering them as well, do you?
Which Amendment covers cars?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
If Laura Bush is driving, I would feel safer having a gun.
Which Amendment covers cars?
Speaking of Cars covers, the New Cars are in town tonight. Yea or Nay?
Truth, which part of your argument does not apply equally to automobiles?
well, you can get your own fully-armed Blackhawk, you just have to join the militia.
ronjazz, fascist commenter
I'd rather have some chocolate.
Truth
I'm sure you are right, but 2 many words for a fri nite.
The next fuck that posts a serious comment, I swear, I will take my unregistered gun and hold my Neighbors barking dogs hostage.
It will be ugly.
.
If Laura Bush is driving, I would feel safer having a gun.
Terry C, American Once More
Don't be silly. Guns don't have steering wheels!
Get a tank!
"Goin' down the Netherlands
Gonna get my Cambone boiled..."
Done laid around DC so long
Mah li'l ol' Cambone got spoiled... - SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Hee! A rotten shit, if ever there was one.
Ole!
chatty little group tonight, went off to make some cinnamon rolls w/honey-orange glaze, you're over 900.
anyway; Moyers to West Point. just wow.
http://www.tompaine.com/
articles..._west_point.php
Once we start down the path of registering guns it cannot be long before we start registering waterguns.
We register cars, yet I was never required to register my children's Big Wheels.
They're teen-aged now, so perhaps things have changed more than I imagine.
The Constitution said nothing about deodorant either.
But it does say this about arms:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
If it said
"Well regulated BO, being necessary to the sanitation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and use Deodorant, shall not be infringed."
that would constitutionally limit the laws Congress could pass regulating the sale and use of deodorant, right?
Delete my fucking account, Atrios!
Don't be silly. Guns don't have steering wheels!
Get a tank!
ellroon, hair afire
Or one of them thar monster trucks?
Don't be silly. Guns don't have steering wheels!
Unless you're the Green Hornet. His Lincoln had machine guns.
The next fuck that posts a serious comment, I swear, I will take my unregistered gun and hold my Neighbors barking dogs hostage.
It will be ugly.
.
agave
ok! Serious Post!
The next fuck that posts a serious comment, I swear, I will take my unregistered gun and hold my Neighbors barking dogs hostage.
When guns are criminalized, only criminals will have guns.
So there.
Double dog dare ya.
evening bats
Which Amendment covers cars?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
You actually gonna make this argument, or shall we just wave in a friendly manner and move on?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Yes, I am. There is a fundamental guarantee of the right to bear arms, and the militia argument is not compelling. But cars are a privilege. They ain't the same thing.
That said, I do think there are Constitutional ways to balance the right with the needs of society, just as there are limits to free speech (shouting theater at a crowded fire, for example, is a nono).
Get a tank!
ellroon, hair afire
tnaks don't either.
Which Amendment covers cars?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
The Overdrive Amendment. Comes right after the 4th, or after the 3rd, on older model Constitutions...
The next fuck that posts a serious comment, I swear, I will take my unregistered gun and hold my Neighbors barking dogs hostage.
It will be ugly.
.
agave
Don't let Toby hear ya - he'll be out there with lighter fluid and matches.
"Well regulated BO, being necessary to the sanitation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and use Deodorant, shall not be infringed."
that would constitutionally limit the laws Congress could pass regulating the sale and use of deodorant, right?
sidhra
Welll.... If you really had beary arms, I'm sure deodorant would be a Constitutional necessity.
New Cars? Rundgren? Anyone? Bueller?
Where's simels when you need him?
Unless you're the Green Hornet. His Lincoln had machine guns.
General Zod
No! The Green Hornet drove a Lincoln? Say it ain't so!
If Laura Bush is driving, I would feel safer having a gun.
With George Bush at the helm, I'd fell unsafe without one.
Tim Robbins was so young when they made "The Player," and Cynthia Stevenson's breasts were perky and quite pink in the hottub.
fell = feel. Yikes.
Tim Robbins was so young when they made "The Player," and Cynthia Stevenson's breasts were perky and quite pink in the hottub.
masculine_monica_nyc
Great. I was going to post something serious and you go and say this. Now everybody is scrambling for the remote....
Delete my fucking account, Atrios!
ErrinF
I do hope yer not expecting an argument...
United Nuclear, the Polonium-210 selling company mentioned in the Times of London article has put a special notice up...
http://www.unitednuclear.com/iso...om/
isotopes.htm
With the recent news of Polonium-210 being used as a poison, a good deal of
incorrect information has been passed around (primarily by the media) concerning the Polonium isotope and radioactive materials in general. It's important to get the facts correct. The general public is quite ignorant when it comes to knowledge about radioactive materials and radiation in general.
The amount of Plonium-210, as well as any of the isotopes we sell is an 'exempt quantity' amount. These quantities of radioactive material are not hazardous - this is why they are permitted by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) to be sold to the general public without any sort of license.
Although we do sell these isotopes, distributors such as United Nuclear Scientific Supplies (and just about any isotope distributor) do not actually stock them.
All isotopes are made to order at an NRC licensed reactor in Oak Ridge Tennessee. When the isotope is made, it is shipped directly to the customer from the reactor to insure the longest possible half-life.
The exempt quantity amount of Polonium-210, or any of the radioactive isotopes sold is so small that they are essentially invisible to the human eye.
In the case of needle sources, the radioactive material is electroplated on the inside of the eye of a needle.
You would need about 15,000 of our Polonium-210 needle sources
at a total cost of about $1 million - to have a toxic amount.
Harper Lee's trajectory is similar - publishing her Pulitzer prize-winning novel, To Kill a Mockingbird, in 1960 and withdrawing from public view shortly after. Rumours of new works have been in the air, but never materialised. In 2006, she surfaced to receive an honorary degree from Notre Dame University, and write in a letter to Oprah Winfrey's magazine O of her disaffection for modern life: "In an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books."
Yes, yes, she tell it like it is.
Cynthia Stevenson's breasts were perky and quite pink in the hottub.
Oh man, she was so cute and hot at the same time.
Yes, I am. There is a fundamental guarantee of the right to bear arms, and the militia argument is not compelling. But cars are a privilege. They ain't the same thing.
Registering one's weapons in no way infringes upon one's right to "keep and bear them." Licensing might if it were arbitrary or capricious, but reasonable licensing requirements ought not.
And 99 out of 100 Americans would be in a world of shit without their cars. Without their guns? Uh... well, approximately no one, more or less. About as inconvenienced as if their X-boxes were outlawed.
You would need about 15,000 of our Polonium-210 needle sources
at a total cost of about $1 million - to have a toxic amount.
Richard
Thanks for link, Richard.
I wonder who is rolling in cash right now...Osama? Russia? Was it 9 billion that went missing in the early days of the Iraq war? hmmmmm....
No! The Green Hornet drove a Lincoln? Say it ain't so!
my error - a Chrysler Imperial. I could have swore it was a Lincoln.
If it's gams you want, look no further than Virginia Mayo, currently hoofing it up on TCM.
About as inconvenienced as if their X-boxes were outlawed.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Don't let my kids hear this...
No! The Green Hornet drove a Lincoln? Say it ain't so!
my error - a Chrysler Imperial. I could have swore it was a Lincoln.
General Zod
Going to google Chrysler Imperials.
Registering one's weapons in no way infringes upon one's right to "keep and bear them."
Did I say that? I merely observed that guns are in a different Constitutional category than cars.
However, registration does mean no unfettered "keeping and bearing" arms, and certainly the argument could reasonably be made the other direction: that registration is an unreasonable restriction on the right. You might not agree, but it's reasonable without amending the amendment with clarifying language.
And that's the thing: it's certainly true, and I've argued it before, that times have changed, weapons have changed, and something like registration would be warranted (no pun intended), but the best way to do it is to amend the Constitution so it's clear.
Of course, I hate the Bill of Rights, just like Hamilton did, because of this very argument...
Registering one's weapons in no way infringes upon one's right to "keep and bear them."
Did I say that? I merely observed that guns are in a different Constitutional category than cars.
However, registration does mean no unfettered "keeping and bearing" arms, and certainly the argument could reasonably be made the other direction: that registration is an unreasonable restriction on the right. You might not agree, but it's reasonable without amending the amendment with clarifying language.
And that's the thing: it's certainly true, and I've argued it before, that times have changed, weapons have changed, and something like registration would be warranted (no pun intended), but the best way to do it is to amend the Constitution so it's clear.
Of course, I hate the Bill of Rights, just like Hamilton did, because of this very argument...
99 out of 100 Americans would be in a world of shit without their cars. Without their guns? Uh... well, approximately no one, more or less. About as inconvenienced as if their X-boxes were outlawed.
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In the end, cars will prove to have done more damage to the Republic than guns. White flight, the ghost towning of inner cities, the bodies that wax fat, the vehicles that grow to accomodate their asses...one, two ton extensions of ego with massive doses of passive aggresiveness...I'd rather take my chances with the crackhead with a gun than the faceless frau behind the wheel of a Hummer on her way home from Costco.
twitchy!
Iraq: Humpty Dumpty all over again.
"Once we start down the path of registering guns it cannot be long before we start registering waterguns."
Well, that's it, then. I give up. Just don't shoot me. I hate water.
Thanks for link, Richard.
Given that information about the polonium sources being sold, it becomes clear that that Times of London story is really a shameful piece of work. I guess the US isn't the only country with a rotten press corp.
Of course, I hate the Bill of Rights, just like Hamilton did, because of this very argument...
Yikes.
I object on moral gr--
Oh, blow it out your ass, Howard...
Yes, I am. There is a fundamental guarantee of the right to bear arms, and the militia argument is not compelling. But cars are a privilege. They ain't the same thing.
Don't know what a "fundamental guarantee" is, but it's certainly not a fundamental right per the Supremes.
Not incorporated to the states, either, thank God.
the best way to do it is to amend the Constitution so it's clear.
As I said at the outset of this discussion, I think the battle over "gun control" is lost, and we're better off working on things more likely to effect positive change, and less likely to polarize to no good end.
But I think there's plenty of decent, constitutional legislation that could be passed regulating but not infringing upon gun ownership if and when we arrive in more sensible times.
Of course, I hate the Bill of Rights, just like Hamilton did, because of this very argument...
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
Because if you begin to define some things, people will demand that by such definitions, you must then define everything?
I have to give a urine sample, DNA and my drivers license for Claritin-D.
Of course, I hate the Bill of Rights, just like Hamilton did, because of this very argument...
Yikes.
No yikes necessary. Consider the fact that we often limit rights even though they are codified. In fact, Hamilton argued we limit rights WHEN they are codified in such a document as the Big C. Federalist 84:
I...affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights.
On the subject of the liberty of the press, as much as has been said, I cannot forbear adding a remark...What signifies a declaration, that "the liberty of the press shall be inviolably preserved''? What is the liberty of the press? Who can give it any definition which would not leave the utmost latitude for evasion? I hold it to be impracticable; and from this I infer, that its security, whatever fine declarations may be inserted in any constitution respecting it, must altogether depend on public opinion, and on the general spirit of the people and of the government. And here, after all, as is intimated upon another occasion, must we seek for the only solid basis of all our rights.
The construction of our founding document is such that the government has specific, limited, enumerated powers, and ALL ELSE belongs to the People. I wonder if we'd have a debate about penumbras and privacy if we didn't dare come close to implicitly allowing the government the power to regulate our rights.
On the other hand, given the results of the Burr-Hamilton shootout, I shouldn't wonder why he might have had bad thoughts about letting at least Jeffersonian Democratic-Republicans bear arms.
The right to bear arms is the 18th century version of permanent revolution. That is the meaning.
Don't know what a "fundamental guarantee" is, but it's certainly not a fundamental right per the Supremes.
I disagree with their assessment, then.
Truth, which part of your argument does not apply equally to automobiles?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Well then let's register monkey wrenches since some benighted soul used one to bash her husband. Let's register glass paperweights because some sorry sop did in his errant wife with that, etc etc etc. If you want to regulate, regulate the FUCKING CORPORATIONS as Snow helpfully suggested. Registration carries with it inherant abuses and inevitable impingements upon sacred individual Liberty which the Hitler and Bush episodes have conclusively proven lead to more and more abuse to the point of no return. We are free and that is all we have. Without basic freedom we are not human. Of course we need to regulate, but let's regulate at the levels that actually confine our freedom. Let's regulate, restrict, and end the proliferation of nuclear waste. Let's regulate and end the corporate stranglehold on our environment and our democracy. Guns are not toys, and they need to be carefully considered, but it is not the guns, it is our respect for the power of the guns that needs attention. Let's educate our kids to respect the sanctity of life and the dangerous ease with which guns can take it. Let's be Liberal in according Freedom, Conservative in imposing restriction, and Moderate in our haste to regulate another man's right to live according to his own lights, just so long as he does not attempt to shoot out our own.
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mmmm.... penumbras.
As a Canadian, I've always found that the American attitude towards guns to be completely insane. If you can't own an assault rifle you aren't free? Controlling gun ownership is somehow unpatriotic? That's just fucking crazy. Violent crimes occur in Canada at a fraction of the rate they do in the US. That's freedom for you. Freedom from fear.
I disagree with their assessment, then.
NTodd
Well, don't take up arms in a misguided effort to persuade them.
I thought we had a right to arm bears, I guess I read that wrong.
Because if you begin to define some things, people will demand that by such definitions, you must then define everything?
To a certain extent, yes.
The Constitution is a 'prudent' document, not a 'permissive' document (to borrow from infosec), at least where the government is consider. It denies all rights to the Feds, except very specific powers. Once you start specifying (or prohibiting) rights of the People, then even the most basic rights enumerated are debatable because you haven't spelled out everything explicitly, much to the glee of Scalia _et alia_.
'enkew, Richard.
The right to bear arms is the 18th century version of permanent revolution.
Very Jeffersonian. I'm with Thomas, and I think the 10th Amendment satisfies Hamilton's, and NTodd's, beef:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Well I certainly don't want bear arms. I like my creamy limbs the way they are.
GAH! This is a Long Thread.
I just wanted to let people know that I just got approved for my long-awaited Home Loan, and will be closing in two week's time...
$138,000, 10 acres, a SOLID, han-built log house, a rental unit, similarly built, a big barn, chicken coop, BIG greenhouse....
I'm in HEAVEN right now... It's taken me YEARS to get to this point.... Years of HARD , HARD struggle, and now I have the American Dream in my hands. It's GREAT to finally be able to get up off of my knees and to start BEING the Change I want to be.
Here's what I bought:
http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com...pics-of-
my.html
--mf
I thought we had a right to arm bears, I guess I read that wrong.
::matthew
That's why I keep my two AK-47s by the front door.
liberals are the fat chix in the high school of politics.
The right to bear arms is the 18th century version of permanent revolution. That is the meaning.
Not exactly from where I sit: it's the potential of permanent revolution. Even TJ, who drafted the VA Constitution (from which a butchered version of Amend II was derived) thought it would be a generational thing, not permanent. At least in the sense of arms. Really, the government itself is designed to be in constant revolution to a large extent...
Well, don't take up arms in a misguided effort to persuade them.
Darling, who do you think your talking to?
There's the Ninth as well:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Oo, me? Thank you very much!
That's why I keep my two AK-47s by the front door.
ellroon
only two? damn hippies
I think the 10th Amendment satisfies Hamilton's, and NTodd's, beef:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
It doesn't, really. I use Amend X to defend things like 'privacy', but it's an inadequate catch-all when you get right down to it. If I were to create a Bill of Rights at all, I'd ONLY include X.
Ellroon--
I own an AK-47 as well. It is a MOST practical gun.
I bought it early this year, as part of my New Year Resolution to use EVERY ONE of my Constitutional Rights which did not involve arrest...
So, I bought the most serious gun ever made.
--mf
Here's what I bought:
http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com....com...pics-of-
my.html
--mf
Monkeyfister
Congratulations! I see hard work ahead, but the potential is wonderful!
The right to bear arms has nothing to do with shooting errant blacks who might later be argued to have been robbing you: it means you are ready to violently overthrow unjust governments yourself, which no corruption-loving warmongering rightard is going to do.
The irony (I think, right Alanis?) is that my two favorite Founders are...Jefferson and Hamilton, who were at odds over almost everything. You know what that means: I'M THE FUCKING CENTER, BITCHES!
I own an AK-47 as well. It is a MOST practical gun.
Good for shooting squirrels and chickadees that get uppity.
I'M THE FUCKING CENTER, BITCHES! NTodd
Spoken like a true only child.
Truth, I think pretty much all the things you suggest should be regulated actually are, whether effectively or ineffectively.
I'm unable to understand how anyone's well-being is diminished by registering the serial numbers of an instrument which has no purpose other than to realize or simulate the destruction of other living beings. Own all you want, if you need 'em for some reason... just let us have info about their "DNA" so if they wind up killing actual human beings, we have a better shot at catching the bad guys.
And when people argue too strongly against this, I tend to doubt their sincerity. Maybe that's just my problem.
NTodd, warn people when you start your podcast with loud Looney Tunes intro music! I would have had to change my pants if I was wearing some....
liberals are the fat chix in the high school of politics.
slag
I think you need to refresh the masking tape on your hornrims, dude.
Generational arms bearing. Yeah rite. The French starting forming militias and a generation later beheaded the king and set out to conquer the world.
congrats, monkeyfister, nice spread.
slag, conservatives are the dropouts from the high school of politics. you know, the LOSERS! suck it, stupid, you're done, ruined, fucked. you have no standing, and no future in a civil society. you have been flushed. bye, auggy.
We would need very few laws at all if people would simply choose to live by Jesus' one commandment: "Try not to be such an asshole all the time."
SteveLG is proofg thatall liberals are gun grabbers.
You gfrab my gun, punk, and ou'll be grappinb a lot more.
my two favorite Founders are...Jefferson and Hamilton, who were at odds over almost everything.
Likewise, O pantless one.
You don't have to register the damn guns in Fla but I have to surrender my life history for a "hit" (guffaw) of Claritin D.
so what the hell is a well regulated militia?
My guess would be the National Guard. And yeah, those dudes ought to have guns and shit.
Dipshit Dubya strikes again:
Fighting AIDS "includes the ABC approach, encouraging abstinence, being faithful, and using condoms, with abstinence as the only sure way to avoid the sexual transmission of HIV/AIDS," said Bush.
I'm glad to hear he's in favor of zero population growth. That ought to go over well with his fundie family values base.
liberals are the fat chix in the high school of politics.
The smart people who don't care about getting high?
We would need very few laws at all if people would simply choose to live by Jesus' one commandment: "Try not to be such an asshole all the time."
JeffCO
I don't think that's in my translation... wonder what it sounds like in Aramaic.
Mel?
Now if Aaron Burr had had an AK-47 in that duel....
Good for shooting squirrels and chickadees that get uppity.
You can use it to open the door without even getting out of your chair, though I suppose the UPS driver wouldn't appreciate it.
A well-regulated militia means in top fighting order at all times, with continuous training, plentiful ammunition, etc.
SteveLG is proofg thatall liberals are gun grabbers.
You gfrab my gun, punk, and ou'll be grappinb a lot more.
slag
Hopefully I'll catch you when you're as shitfaced as you are now.
You gfrab my gun, punk, and ou'll be grappinb a lot more.
slag
Something tells me Auggy doesn't have "a lot more."
If you know what I mean.
Hamilton was a philosophical ass, but Jefferson was generally an ass in real life.
I'm unable to understand how anyone's well-being is diminished by registering the serial numbers of an instrument which has no purpose other than to realize or simulate the destruction of other living beings.
Then you need to consider the purpose of guns for many people and get out of your own head for a moment. First off, Amend II was created for a very specific reason: to resist tyranny. Not the way I would choose to do it, but that's what is in our Founding Fucking Document. Don't like it? Fortunately there's a process in the aforementioned fucking document called 'amending'.
Next, you should note that the US is vast and has a variety of cultures, including, say...an old gun culture in Vermont. Making somebody register a gun would be tantamount to making them register where they go to church, or requiring them to fill out a form about how much meat they eat.
SteveLG is proofg thatall liberals are gun grabbers.
And I'm proof that you're full of shit, since I'm a liberal and don't want your fucking gun, you pus-brained punk.
I don't think that's in my translation...
It's in the noncanonical Gospel of Ignatz.
You gfrab my gun, punk, and ou'll be grappinb a lot more.
What national guard are you a member of that guarantees you the right to keep and bear arms?
SteveLG is proofg thatall liberals are gun grabbers.
You gfrab my gun, punk, and ou'll be grappinb a lot more.
slag
Hopefully I'll catch you when you're as shitfaced as you are now.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
I think he's just getting excited...
slag
dith is on business in Guam. slag is the temp filling in for him until he comes back.
"As a Canadian, I've always found that the American attitude towards guns to be completely insane. If you can't own an assault rifle you aren't free? Controlling gun ownership is somehow unpatriotic? That's just fucking crazy. Violent crimes occur in Canada at a fraction of the rate they do in the US. That's freedom for you. Freedom from fear.Richard"
Here is where you may be misreading American mentality. Assaut rifles, by definition, exist to assault. Few Americans dispute their danger and the imperative of regulating them. Assault, by definition, poses a general and definite inherent danger. Rifles, by definition, are basic firearms; tools. They are useful in getting food. They may be used in defending one's self and one's family.
A Saturday Night Special is rarely used to dispatch a deer, but it can and has been used both to heist a store and to ward off burglars. In any case, our American Constitution does provide for the Right To Bear Arms, and although our recent unelected leaders have attempted to shred that august document, it holds no less sanctity, pertinance, or position of respect in our eyes. Our Founding Documents define our American understanding and construction of our Rights, our Selves, and our Identity. In weather fair, and especially in storm, We hold to them.
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The great appraisal scandal
Here's a kicker for you: A lot of those people don't KNOW they owe more than their house is worth. They're about to get a shock.
Folks who refinanced a year or two ago are finding out their homes are worth less than the appraised value. All over the country, appraisals have been inflated by lenders eager to make loans and real estate agents eager to close the deal whatever it takes.
Here's a prediction for you: The appraisal scandal will soon explode in the mainstream media. When this mess falls apart, you're going to discover how lenders and real estate agents pressured appraisers to overvalue homes. The lawyers will be busy.
so what the hell is a well regulated militia?
My guess would be the National Guard. And yeah, those dudes ought to have guns and shit.
It's something that is not beholden to the central government, and made up of citizens. Best place to look to understand where that phrase came from is the VA constitution:
"That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."
"I'm in HEAVEN right now... It's taken me YEARS to get to this point.... Years of HARD , HARD struggle, and now I have the American Dream in my hands. It's GREAT to finally be able to get up off of my knees and to start BEING the Change I want to be."
congrats on becoming a happy homeowner. you will now be busy fixing stuff for the rest of your life, but it's *your* piece of heaven
Now if Aaron Burr had had an AK-47 in that duel....
He would have . . . what, been more successful?
dith is on business in Guam. slag is the temp filling in for him until he comes back.
Richard
No, "slag" is Auggy, afraid to show his ass since November 7th.
PUNKED.
Don't like it? Fortunately there's a process in the aforementioned fucking document called 'amending'.
In this, if nothing else, I suppose we're in agreement.
It's a lost cause.
Have a grand time playing with your guns, kids. You win.
Well, obviously the founders didn't count on a nation of 300 million people, many of whom are still living the cowboy fantasy (see Bush, Fuckwit) of guns conferring power, nor did they see the high-tech weaponry of today, which is why the liberal idea of an evolving Constitution is the right one. Unfortunately, evolution has been far outstripped by technology, and we are now prisoners of our own "progress". Freedom in this context needs the balance of responsibility; it is not license to do whatever one wants. We are supposed to be the civilized ones, but, as Ghandi said when asked about Western civilization, "that would be nice".
Hamilton was a philosophical ass, but Jefferson was generally an ass in real life.
I'd love to see either ass in politics today, thanks. The assholes we've got now haven't an eighth of their courage or thoughfulness.
It's something that is not beholden to the central government, and made up of citizens. Best place to look to understand where that phrase came from is the VA constitution:
Actually, you need to consider where else the Constitution refers to a militia. When you do that, you see that a militia refers to what we know as a national guard.
Our Founding Documents define our American understanding and construction of our Rights, our Selves, and our Identity. In weather fair, and especially in storm, We hold to them.
Although somehow no one has hissy fits about quartering troops.
Second and Third Amendments both would have benefitted with some "Sunset" provisions.
" On the morning of July 11, 1804, Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr raised their dueling pistols and took aim. Hamilton, the former secretary of the treasury, and Vice President Burr were longstanding political rivals and personal enemies. Burr might have been the president instead of vice president, had it not been for Hamilton's interference. When Burr's term as vice president was almost over, he ran for governor of New York. Hamilton, once again, prevented Burr from winning by opposing his candidacy. Burr retaliated by challenging Hamilton to a duel."
Where's what's her name?
I'm getting itchy.
.
NTodd
the VA constitution that you've quoted seems to describe a national guard-like body which is loyal to the state (small s)and its civil leaders (governor)
am I wrong?
the VA constitution that you've quoted seems to describe a national guard-like body which is loyal to the state (small s)and its civil leaders (governor)
Uh, I think that's what I said. It's something made up of citizens that isn't beholden to the central government.
He would have . . . what, been more successful?
Snow, Contrary | Homepage | 12.01.06 - 11:46 pm |
EMPORER OF MEXICO, BITCHES!!!
Truth, I think pretty much all the things you suggest should be regulated actually are, whether effectively or ineffectively.
I'm unable to understand how anyone's well-being is diminished by registering the serial numbers of an instrument which has no purpose other than to realize or simulate the destruction of other living beings. Own all you want, if you need 'em for some reason... just let us have info about their "DNA" so if they wind up killing actual human beings, we have a better shot at catching the bad guys.
And when people argue too strongly against this, I tend to doubt their sincerity. Maybe that's just my problem.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
All I suggest is that when you embark on the path of registering the "DNA" of one thing, then you open the door to registering the "DNA" of the next thing, and then pretty soon you are justifying registering the "DNA" of everything, and we know from painful experience that registrys are always abused by those who have access to them to affect "DNA" which they personally don't like, for whatever reason. Thus, you may end up with eugenics, etc. I am not proposing an "answer", I am requesting that very real and careful consideration be accorded issues of potentially permanent determanitive power.
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Truth, I think pretty much all the things you suggest should be regulated actually are, whether effectively or ineffectively.
I'm unable to understand how anyone's well-being is diminished by registering the serial numbers of an instrument which has no purpose other than to realize or simulate the destruction of other living beings. Own all you want, if you need 'em for some reason... just let us have info about their "DNA" so if they wind up killing actual human beings, we have a better shot at catching the bad guys.
And when people argue too strongly against this, I tend to doubt their sincerity. Maybe that's just my problem.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
All I suggest is that when you embark on the path of registering the "DNA" of one thing, then you open the door to registering the "DNA" of the next thing, and then pretty soon you are justifying registering the "DNA" of everything, and we know from painful experience that registrys are always abused by those who have access to them to affect "DNA" which they personally don't like, for whatever reason. Thus, you may end up with eugenics, etc. I am not proposing an "answer", I am requesting that very real and careful consideration be accorded issues of potentially permanent determanitive power.
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" Standing on the heights of Weehawken, New Jersey, Hamilton and Burr fired their pistols. Some people said that Hamilton purposely missed Burr. Burr's shot, however, fatally wounded Hamilton, leading to his death the following day. Aaron Burr escaped unharmed.
Hard to believe, but settling differences with a duel had been the custom before the Revolution. In 1804, however, dueling was no longer legal in the state of New York, where both men were political leaders. Burr was indicted for murder, but the charges were later dropped.
Fortunately, politicians today use debates and the press to settle their differences. Dueling and other violence have never been an intelligent way to solve a problem. In a duel, the loser lost more than just an argument; he lost his life"
An AK47 woulda changed history! Burr would be on the ..uh... 10 dollar bill!
ronjazz, just got back from drum lessons. He was almost denied a big music award in high school as he wouldn't cut his hair..someplace in MA. They finally caved. He has done well, has been Steppenwolf drummer since '82 and has played quite a bit of jazz, got to train with Morello and others.
One of the things that does not change is that the Founders were concerned with concetrations of power that were not offset in some way.
The Constitution is built upon the concept of balance of power.
Right now, we have serious power imbalances outside the structure of government, and the Founders would be appalled that it's been allowed to happen.
THANK YOU, JDW!!!
Thank you. for your kind words!
--mf
Although somehow no one has hissy fits about quartering troops.
I felt a little hissy after Braveheart.
But personally, I'm all for giving much respect to the founders and then accepting responsibility for maintaining our own goddam culture. This deification of the will of the founders makes no sense to me.
Actually, you need to consider where else the Constitution refers to a militia. When you do that, you see that a militia refers to what we know as a national guard.
Yes, but that does not mean the People themselves do not also have the right to keep and bear arms.
Guns are completely unnecessary for food now. the fact that Vermont has an old gun culture just means that there exists in Vermont is a backwards culture, unable and unwilling to move into the modern world, like the Islamists and Christianists who resist progress. The gun culture is a cult, which is fine and dandy in our free country, but their resistance to good law enforcement through registration is slightly insane. There are too many people and too many incidents of violent death to continue to live as if we were in the 18th century. That is a particularly conservative, thus ass-backwards, position.
An AK47 woulda changed history! Burr would be on the ..uh... 10 dollar bill!
ellroon, hair afire
wait a minute...
Our Founding Documents define our American understanding and construction of our Rights, our Selves, and our Identity. In weather fair, and especially in storm, We hold to them.
Well, except for fractional provisions on the humanity of African-Americans I would hope.
Monkeyfister - way to go!
We find duct tape and super glue quite useful.
An AK47 woulda changed history! Burr would be on the ..uh... 10 dollar bill!
ellroon
When watching WWII or earlier war documentaries, I always think about how a few modern weapons or navigational systems could have completely changed the outcomes
The next President of America, Barack Obama, on Jay Leno.
In 1804, however, dueling was no longer legal in the state of New York
Hence the field of honor being "on the heights of Weehawken, New Jersey"
Well, obviously the founders didn't count on a nation of 300 million people, many of whom are still living the cowboy fantasy (see Bush, Fuckwit) of guns conferring power
I've found it rather amusing that the gun nuts actually believe in the fantasy that their owning guns is important because it is deterrence against the country turning into a dictatorship. Johnny Reb is going to head to Washington with his rifle and save the US from the fascist commies. Right.
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Truth
I dunno, man.
I hear you... but if I can't persuade you that there's a compelling reason for the government to have information about the serial number and barrel print from your guns that doesn't apply to your vacuum cleaner I guess we don't have much to discuss.
Waxman fit the battle of Washington,
And the walls came a-tumble-in down.
Hello Otter
I was over at your blog a few days ago checking on you. how ya been?
Yes, but that does not mean the People themselves do not also have the right to keep and bear arms.
You're absolutely right. It means that the government has a right to restrict the bearing of arms by private citizens however, depending upon how you interpret various parts of the Constitution.
cf the crushing of the Mahdi, a single line of British troops later romanticized as hopelessly outnumbered, using rifles and machine guns to cut down Aficans with swords.
Our Founding Documents define our American understanding and construction of our Rights, our Selves, and our Identity. In weather fair, and especially in storm, We hold to them.
No they don't, they give us the liberty to define, legislate and preserve the values we choose.
I hear you... but if I can't persuade you that there's a compelling reason for the government to have information about the serial number and barrel print from your guns that doesn't apply to your vacuum cleaner I guess we don't have much to discuss.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Damn you!! Keep your mits off my vacuum cleaner!
george bush: WHAT A FUCKING SICKO!
and the crowd at wash. week in review continues to treat him as anything but the clueless idiot he is.
there exists in Vermont is a backwards culture
Bernie Sanders, Socialist
Patrick Leahy, Democrat
Two Senators from the Backward Culture of Vermont.
You are both wrong. It means that we can eat almost an entire pound of licorice allsorts while watching a depressingly cylonless BSG.
Thank you, Ellroon.
And NTodd...
C'Mon, fella... I know that you are a quaker, and I salute that.
I wouldn't dream of shooting small game with this gun, but, I AM an "Old School" style hunter-- I hunt the forest, and this is a perfect gun for hunting Deer in the woodland setting... BUT... NTodd, I want you to read a GREAT hunting tale of mine from last Friday...
http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com...om-
hunting.html
You'll LOVE this story... for the most part.
--mf
Otter! How are you and the family?
Erin, I saw Morello in a clinic, where the inevitable "what sticks do you use?" question came up. Joe held a stick up to his coke-bottle glasses to read it, and said "Joe Morello Model".
Steppenwolf, hey? My singer is a lifelong fan, quite a powerhouse band. Heavy metal thunder, indeed.
The new chief of the U.S. General Services Administration is trying to limit the ability of the agency's inspector general to audit contracts for fraud or waste and has said oversight efforts are intimidating the workforce, according to government documents and interviews.
GSA Administrator Lurita Alexis Doan, a Bush political appointee and former government contractor, has proposed cutting $5 million in spending on audits and shifting some responsibility for contract reviews to small, private audit contractors.
Wow! What a clever way to conspire with frauds to commit fraud.
This deification of the will of the founders makes no sense to me.
It's not deification of their will, but the contract they wrote. And it is a living document: through amendment.
All's we gots is the words written down...
Waxman, Conyers, and Leahy are lined up at the starting line with supoenas in hand....
No they don't, they give us the liberty to define, legislate and preserve the values we choose.
Only if you feel it is appropriate to debate the definition of 'is'.
Damn you!! Keep your mits off my vacuum cleaner!
ellroon, hair afire
You may keep it if it's a Hoover.
Electrolux are right out, however.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/da...02/
#annotations
It's not deification of their will, but the contract they wrote. And it is a living document: through amendment.
That's so stupid. What a duh you are.
Guns are completely unnecessary for food now. the fact that Vermont has an old gun culture just means that there exists in Vermont is a backwards culture, unable and unwilling to move into the modern world, like the Islamists and Christianists who resist progress.
BULLSHIT. Get the fuck out of your rigid, totalitarian worldview. Really. That's just ridiculous and stupid and ignorant and not-at-all productive.
You may keep it if it's a Hoover.
Electrolux are right out, however.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
uh... It's a Eureka AK47. Can I keep it?
It keeps me safe from the bears.
Come on, Sidhra, I very specifically limited my description to a particular group, not Vermont as a whole. I like Vermont very much, especially because they have a socialist in office. Just because New York has asshole Peter King in office doesn't mean that NYC isn't the greatest city on the planet. don't be going all slag on me.
the fact that Vermont has an old gun culture just means that there exists in Vermont is a backwards culture, unable and unwilling to move into the modern world, like the Islamists and Christianists who resist progress.
Nuh-uh. I don't buy that.
It was the will of at least one of the founders that we start over frequently. But in addition to licorice allsorts, other foundational documents in American law and government regard ice cream, varieties of Faygo, pixie stix, every grade of chocolate, those fruit slice gums, wine gums and chewing gum.
It's not deification of their will, but the contract they wrote. And it is a living document: through amendment. All's we gots is the words written down... NTodd
To you it's the words 'cause you're all abstract capable & shit, but to many it's more concrete. I completely agree about the amendment process, which I put under the heading of taking responsibility for ourselves.
It's just that sometimes it sounds like people are arguing the merits of wearing an onion on their belts just because it had been the style at the time.
OT, but extra-special playful kittens blogging!
uh... It's a Eureka AK47. Can I keep it?
It keeps me safe from the bears.
ellroon, hair afire
Prolly... but I need the serial numbers of all the attachments. Especially the ones having to do with bears.
You're absolutely right. It means that the government has a right to restrict the bearing of arms by private citizens however, depending upon how you interpret various parts of the Constitution.
No, I think it means the central government has the right to regulate navies and armies. The rights of the People are separate from the State power to kill, er...offer defense.
Now one justifiable use of a gun would be to fucking shoot the Haloscan servers and their goddamned colon separators.
A lot of Michiganders eat well through hunting and fishing, especially what with this amazing Bush boom.
colon separators
ouch.
NTodd, you're calling bullshit on me, and defending a rigid, totalitarian worldview, so fuck you. Gun nuts are called gun nuts because they're fucking nuts. They live in the past, and they live in a fantasy world. I'm not the one who wants to take their guns, by the way. So, again, in case you missed it, fuck you.
Now one justifiable use of a gun would be to fucking shoot the Haloscan servers and their goddamned colon separators.
NTodd
blograge...exactly why we need to regulate the guns and have waiting periods and shit
A story from 2004 about the right to bear arms in Iraq...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...guns-
iraq_x.htm
BAGHDAD — While there are many things Iraq and Iraqis need, there is one resource that isn't lacking: guns.
Having a weapon here is about more than self-defense. "It is a way to express power and wealth, like driving a Mercedes or a BMW," says Abu Alla, 36, a black-market gun dealer who plies his trade from his home in Baghdad...
The requirements for gun ownership — minimum age of 18, no history of mental illness and no record of violent criminal activity — are the same as under Saddam Hussein's regime. The permanent Iraqi government, set to be elected in January, is expected to write a new licensing law. The Interior Ministry also is considering a weapons buy-back program...
"Every single Iraqi has a minimum of one weapon," says Raad Jabber, 28, a police officer on guard at a government building in Baghdad. Favorites include fully automatic AK-47s and Browning 9mm semiautomatic handguns...
Iraqis have had a long love affair with guns. Saddam handed out special AK-47 permits to favored tribal leaders. "This love for the gun is ingrained in the Iraqi mind from birth to death," says Iraqi police officer Hassan Abid al-Saadi, 53. "When babies cry, the fathers give the child a toy plastic gun (to calm them down)."
The new chief of the U.S. General Services Administration is trying to limit the ability of the agency's inspector general to audit contracts for fraud or waste and has said oversight efforts are intimidating the workforce, according to government documents and interviews.
GSA Administrator Lurita Alexis Doan, a Bush political appointee and former government contractor, has proposed cutting $5 million in spending on audits and shifting some responsibility for contract reviews to small, private audit contractors.
Wow! What a clever way to conspire with frauds to commit fraud.
Miro |
See, this here is the part that is mind-bogglingly corrupt. Literally fire in a theatre. Some goopers are so anarchic they are poisonous. This is the type of thing that needs regulation. Using freedom to thwart freedom is nothing less than diabolical, and more often than not actually originates from the banshees of "Law And Order".
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colon separators
ouch.
Max Planck | Homepage | 12.02.06 - 12:07 am |
Crying men who have never had to receive the scissor-looking thingees, in stirrups forsooth.
This deification of the will of the founders makes no sense to me.
It's not deification of their will, but the contract they wrote. And it is a living document: through amendment.
All's we gots is the words written down...
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant | Homepage | 12.02.06 - 12:00 am
Ha ha ha. No, actually he is right. You can't even see the terrible irony of it. It was a sleight of hand, where-in the Judeo-Christian God is substituted for by the Founding Fathers, with their Law, their decalogue. Jefferson confused matters by taking the divinity and extremism out of Christ, thereby making his identification with the founding of the Amerikan Republic palatable to the Enlightenment Crowd and those horribles who would come later. These horribles are the mass of self-indentified Amerikan Christians. They've conflated their belief in the Judeo-Christian God with the Amerikan State. You've just described a religion.
blograge...exactly why we need to regulate the guns and have waiting periods and shit
::matthew
Is that what I have when Haloscan goes down and I can't make comments or am told I need to be scrubbed because my comment was trollish in nature and I need to strangle someone.....?
OT, but extra-special playful kittens blogging!
dave™©
merci. i needed that. Pre-40th' spleen etc, that even Primal Scream's "loaded" couldn't ease...but your pic did!
Obama on Leno says he smoked pot in high school.
Vote Burlington, please
http://eschacon.com/
Obama on Leno says he smoked pot in high school.
otter
otter! it's been ages since i saw you here!
Obama says smoking pot was a mistake, and he has learned from his mistakes, but it's important that leaders be honest about those mistakes and convey to others what they learned from those mistakes.
"This love for the gun is ingrained in the Iraqi mind from birth to death," says Iraqi police officer Hassan Abid al-Saadi, 53. "When babies cry, the fathers give the child a toy plastic gun (to calm them down)."
Richard
Y'see? Inside every Eye-racki there's a Merkin tryin' to get free.
otter is jack. go away, jack.
he has learned from his mistakes, but it's important that leaders be honest about those mistakes and convey to others what they learned from those mistakes.
That sick bastard.
No, I think it means the central government has the right to regulate navies and armies. The rights of the People are separate from the State power to kill, er...offer defense.
Well, I am sorry wanker, but the Constitution gives Congress the right to regulate militias. It also names the president as the commander of militias when they are pressed into federal service.
So, again, in case you missed it, fuck you.
No one told me the Christmas party was tonight!
otter is jack. go away, jack.
ronjazz
ah.too bad. thanks for telling me. fucking namestealers.
Dave, this is one of the sweetest things I have ever seen. I pray that cat is lovingly adopted. TY
=*=
good evening Plum P...I was listening the other night.
good evening Plum P...I was listening the other night.
::matthew
should i ask?
Obama on Leno says he smoked pot in high school.
You're a fucking idiot. If you want to dis Obama for his drug use, read his first book where he talks about his use of cocaine.
to your show silly
NTodd, you're calling bullshit on me, and defending a rigid, totalitarian worldview, so fuck you. Gun nuts are called gun nuts because they're fucking nuts. They live in the past, and they live in a fantasy world. I'm not the one who wants to take their guns, by the way. So, again, in case you missed it, fuck you.
How the fuck am I defending a rigid, totalitarian worldview? For fuck's sake, take a step back and think about what your saying. Jesus.
I'm defending a right defined in our goddamned Constitution. Not only that, but I'm defending a state that doesn't seem to need to get rid of guns because we use them quite well here, thank you, and don't need a sticky beak to come here and say guns are silly and wanting to preserve our culture is evil and just like the Islamofascists. Listen to yourself, you fucking Nazi bastard.
And this, ironically, is all coming from me, the guy who doesn't like guns and believes in nonviolent action. Go figure.
otter is jack. go away, jack.
incog is jack, who went away, but then came back.
Truth : link not working
but i have one:
http://www.dailykitten.com/archi...guinness-
2.html
We've never had an american president who admitted to using illicit drugs.
Hello moonbats
what seems to be going on?
Good night, good people, freaks, weirdos and trolls.
NTodd's argument sounds totally gay.
incog is jack, who went away, but then came back.
JeffCO
too much for my little brain!
Ronjazz, Sanders won 65% of the Vermont Senate vote. A lot of those folks are very much a part of the group Ntodd's talking about. Disparaging people who are responsible citizens that believe in the 2nd Amendment as a guarantee of political freedom as "backwards" Gun Nuts is to exclude them from any kind of conversation. That's just stupid, and Bernie knows it. That's part of why he won.
Obama says he is a kind of symbolic stand in right now for american frusration over slash and burn politics.
what seems to be going on?
Moonbootica, Screamadelica
i was just listenog to that album Moonboo, look at my post at 12:10!
NTodd's argument sounds totally gay.
Thers
That's the most heterosexual comment I've ever seen. Damn you're good Thers.
For $500 I'll destroy the security footage at the tastee freeze
We've never had an american president who admitted to using illicit drugs
Again, you're a fucking idiot. Bill Clinton admitted to such. But if you go back far enough, there are others.
Fighting AIDS "includes the ABC approach, encouraging abstinence, being faithful, and using condoms, with abstinence as the only sure way to avoid the sexual transmission of HIV/AIDS," said Bush.
George, the only way for YOU to quit spreading toxic stupidity is to KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT!
Can Someone provide new sheets?
--mf
I pray that cat is lovingly adopted.
Oh, they do a pretty good job. None of the cats that were there at the beginning of the week were there today. Of course, they cycle them around, but they still seem to have a pretty good adoption rate. And the volunteers really put the potential adopters through their paces!
How many of you will sign up?
"The federal government's "no sex without marriage" message isn't just for kids anymore.
Now the government is targeting unmarried adults up to age 29 as part of its abstinence-only programs, which include millions of dollars in federal money that will be available to the states under revised federal grant guidelines for 2007."
Sex is bad for you! Stop that!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/was...ge_x.htm?
csp=34
Obama says there are only bad and worse options for iraq, he backs a phased withdrawal, but we can't just abandon the iraqi people.
You should be able to swear on the Torah, Koran, Bible, or the Mayan calendar when being sworn in as a US representative.
NTodd--
here's a hunting story that you just might appreciate, and an argument to go with it...
http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com...om-
hunting.html
--mf
merci. i needed that. Pre-40th' spleen etc, that even Primal Scream's "loaded" couldn't ease...but your pic did!
Plum P | Homepage | 12.02.06 - 12:10 am | #
cool!
Have you listened to Primal Scream's XTRMNTR album, very heavy but excellent.
JeffCo is really NTodd.
We've never had an american president who admitted to using illicit drugs
Oh hell, President Harding kept a famously well stocked stash of illicit booze in the White House.
Obama will clarify his presidential ambitions early next year. Leno's audience went nuts at the mere suggestion.
You should be able to swear on the Torah, Koran, Bible, or the Mayan calendar when being sworn in as a US representative.
Achilles the Psycho
you ought to be able to swear or affirm on David Beckham's right foot.
but we can't just abandon the iraqi people
The Iraqi people, or the Kurds, the Shi'a and the Sunnis?
Millard Fillmore had his own laudenum dealer on staff.
Anti-war protest held at base
Anti-war protesters are due to gather at the UK's largest air base to demand that British troops are brought home from Iraq in time for Christmas.
Demonstrators will gather at the village of Carterton, near RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire, then march past the base, where they will lay flowers for all who have died, of any nationality, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The rally has been organised by the Stop the War Coalition and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, who expect thousands of peace protestors from across the country.
Brize Norton, which is the home of the RAF's strategic air transport and air-to-air refuelling forces, is the transport hub for British troops going in and out of Iraq.
Among those attending the protest is Green Party Euro MP Caroline Lucas, a member of CND's council.
Matt Spratt ate no fat his wife ate no lean.
JeffCo is really NTodd. Ô¿Ô
Thanks for decloaking!
JeffCo is really NTodd.
Ô¿Ô is really a woman.
Amerikans make gods out of their founders. The forests are cleared for space to build the shining city on a hill. In another time and another place Washington would of been suckled by a she-wolf instead of a chopper of cherry trees. Then comes the codification - the contract- between the living and the dead....to make sure it goes on. It is amazing to us that even those who Amerikans who recognize exceptionalism in the Republic's actions will not see the same in its founding myths.
Nobody's sworn in on anything to be a US representative.
You should be able to swear on the Torah, Koran, Bible, or the Mayan calendar when being sworn in as a US representative.
Thankfully, you are not required to swear on anything other than your honor.
Well, excuse me for wanting to live in a responsible, civilized society where people are free to own guns but should be glad to register them for the common good. Fucking cowboys.
I love that saying "swear on a stack of Bibles", 'cuz when yer being really serious about something, one just won't cut it.
Our Founding Documents define our American understanding and construction of our Rights, our Selves, and our Identity. In weather fair, and especially in storm, We hold to them. -Truth
No they don't, they give us the liberty to define, legislate and preserve the values we choose.
otter
Fair enough, but when they are abused to subvert their own foundations we have no recourse but to appeal to their original intent. I am the furthest thing from a gun nut. I own a single-shot sawed off bb gun and that's it. I'm using this gun debate right now to make points about the nature of our law, which is the basis of our freedom, and in my view, "at the end of the day", as our pretentious teevee lawyers love to intone, nonetheless it really is all about the Freedom.
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I always affirm (Quakers can't swear) on my hot, throbbing cock...
incog is jack, who went away, but then came back.
JeffCO
Shouldn't rob a bank without a plan,
Can't cook an egg without a pan,
Should never stick your tongue into a fan.
i don't have the courage to read back this thread. So can anybody tell me what Ronjazz and NTodd are figting about?
You should be able to swear on the Torah, Koran, Bible, or the Mayan calendar when being sworn in as a US representative.
Thankfully, you are not required to swear on anything other than your honor.
Snow, Contrary
What with our politicians of late, we're screwed.
But we already knew that.
I always affirm (Quakers can't swear) on my hot, throbbing cock...
That doesn't sound as gay as the other stuff from before.
"but we can't just abandon the iraqi people"
Yeah, it would be better to stay there and kill them all.
Well, excuse me for wanting to live in a responsible, civilized society where people are free to own guns but should be glad to register them for the common good. Fucking cowboys.
There are very legitimate reasons, related to regulation of the militia, that justify registration of all firearms.
You frighten jack when you say that. He can't process it.
we aren't fighting, we're just calling each other names. It's what we're good at.
Well, excuse me for wanting to live in a responsible, civilized society where people are free to own guns but should be glad to register them for the common good. Fucking cowboys.
Well, excuse us for not being so goddamned great like you and seeing that only fascists want to retain their guns in a manner that they deem fit. Fucking Nazi.
I love that saying "swear on a stack of Bibles", 'cuz when yer being really serious about something, one just won't cut it.
Max Planck
I thought that's when you got a free bottle of Vermont maple syrup?
It ain't about shootin' everything in sight. owning a gun like mine is not about Killing everything... I AM NOT Ted Nugent.
My gun is not for shooting squirrels and rabbits... I'd never do that with this gun.
It IS a good home security gun, as the sound of chambering a round is LOUD and strong, and intruders know they are dealing with something big.
Sometimes, sound is all one needs... I HOPE that I never even need that.
But, While I was excercising my 2nd Amendment Right, I just wanted to get the most serious and practical thing I could buy.
Simple as that.
I'll buy a .22 for rabbit and squirrel, a 12-Guage for duck , turkey and goose, when the time comes.
Some of us simply need to be practical. I'm looking to be as self-sufficient as I can be in 5 years time... Solar/off-grid... the whole thing.
I KNOW that I can put down a cow/pig/deer/goose/turkey more humanely than the Factory Farmers do it, AND I know that I can give them a better, happier live.
I'm moving to the REAL country... I rarely want to need to enter a grocery store once i get going on my plan... I want to SUPPLY those stores with veggies...
--mf
--mf
Cartoon cat blogging:
The Cat Came Back
http://www.nfb.ca/animation/obja...=title&
id=17537
This hilarious animated short is based on the century-old folk song of the same name. Old Mr. Johnson makes increasingly manic attempts to rid himself of a little yellow cat that just won't stay away...
catch you laters
It's what we're good at.
ronjazz
i'll never understand men
I am not a cocksucker.
Not that I don't suck cocks.
It ain't about shootin' everything in sight. owning a gun like mine is not about Killing everything... I AM NOT Ted Nugent. My gun is not for shooting squirrels and rabbits... I'd never do that with this gun.
It IS a good home security gun, as the sound of chambering a round is LOUD and strong, and intruders know they are dealing with something big. Sometimes, sound is all one needs... I HOPE that I never even need that.
But, While I was excercising my 2nd Amendment Right, I just wanted to get the most serious and practical thing I could buy. Simple as that. I'll buy a .22 for rabbit and squirrel, a 12-Guage for duck , turkey and goose, when the time comes.
Some of us simply need to be practical. I'm looking to be as self-sufficient as I can be in 5 years time... Solar/off-grid... the whole thing. I KNOW that I can put down a cow/pig/deer/goose/turkey more humanely than the Factory Farmers do it, AND I know that I can give them a better, happier live.
I'm moving to the REAL country... I rarely want to need to enter a grocery store once i get going on my plan... I want to SUPPLY those stores with veggies...
--mf
bonne nuit Moonboo
What Constitutional right is being diminished by registering a weapon? You have to get permission to carry a concealed weapon. How is registering one anymore burdensome than that?
Fucking Nazi.
Hey, I thought Quakers couldn't swear...
somebody has voted for Burlington 6 times...we have a cheater in our midst who uses verizon!
Moonbootica, Screamadelica
Good...Morning? Never quite sure what the time difference is...
Not me:
Ô¿Ô | 12.02.06 - 12:32 am | #
i'll never understand men
They are comparing length and girth. And no, a woman's opinion is not relevant here.
"but we can't just abandon the iraqi people"
We couldn't just have not fucking invaded the Iraqi people either, for fuck's sake.
but we can't just abandon the iraqi people
It seemed to work out better for them when we didn't do stuff like invade or blockade and such like. Maybe if we stopped blowing their stuff up and left, it would be better all around?
See, Plum P? Practice makes perfect. Calling for some method of chasing down gun-wielding criminals makes me a Nazi. Well, a fucking Nazi. We are getting really good at name-calling, and, as good liberals, not much else.
You have to register a handgun. I just did it Monday.
Fucking Nazi.
Hey, I thought Quakers couldn't swear...
nascardaughter
I think they can swear, but they have to use Thee and Thy when they do it..
When dreadnoughts are pirated, only pirates will have dreadnoughts.
Richard: classic "cat came back".Nominated for an Oscar too
Not me:
Ô¿Ô | 12.02.06 - 12:32 am | #
Ô¿Ô | 12.02.06 - 12:35 am | #
Who gives a big blue-veined hot throbbing cock?
We couldn't just have not fucking invaded the Iraqi people either, for fuck's sake.
How would we put that genie back into the bottle?
And no, a woman's opinion is not relevant here.
Snow, Contrary
oh yes it is
We are getting really good at name-calling, and, as good liberals, not much else.
We're calling names?
faux otter,
If I was interested in Leno, I'd be in front of the tube, not here. Kindly piss off.
I wonder if that swearing on a stack of Bibles thing comes from Richard Nixon. Apparently he swore on two Bibles when he was inaugurated.
And we all know how that worked out.
Not sure what he was doing any swearing on Bibles anyway, what with him being at least nominally a Quaker and all.
Monkeyfister, I have absolutely no argument with you on your aims to be self-sufficient, including your choice of weapons; you make perfect sense. Now how is registering the ballistics of your weapons going to interfere with your goals?
When dreadnoughts are pirated, only pirates will have dreadnoughts.
JeffCO | 12.02.06 - 12:36 am | #
When doughnuts are pirated, only pirates will have doughnuts.
somebody has voted for Burlington 6 times...we have a cheater in our midst who uses verizon!
I was tempted, but I'm on Comcast. And now, I must leave you moonbat gun nut half naked bacon lovers. Goodnight.
We couldn't just have not fucking invaded the Iraqi people either, for fuck's sake.
How would we put that genie back into the bottle?
Snow, Contrary
Don't we have to hire Robin Williams and a parrot for that one?
We're calling names? fourlegsgood
Can't argue properly without adverbs! Lolly Lolly Lolly- git yer adverbs here!
Sounds like everyone is quite testy.
What's up with that?
somebody has voted for Burlington 6 times...we have a cheater in our midst who uses verizon!
not me, i'm on videotron
Mr. Plushy is playing with his mousie, and having a whale of a time.
I think you fuckers could all learn from him.
You dudes have the best vagina monologues.
What's up with that?
fourlegsgood,
i wish i knew. arrived 20 minutes ago and been trying to figure out why. on well... Maxx looked happy today plushynurse!
somebody has voted for Burlington 6 times...we have a cheater in our midst who uses verizon!
I'm not going to Burlington.
Sounds like everyone is quite testy.
What's up with that?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
We're sore winners.
Richard: classic "cat came back".Nominated for an Oscar too
Plum P
Have you seen this one?
The Sweater
http://www.nfb.ca/animation/obja...=title&
id=13316
Bestselling author Roch Carrier narrates a mortifying boyhood experience in this animated adaptation of his beloved story, "The Hockey Sweater."
Well, I did freep the thing but only thrice, most truthfully. Hey, I'm dealing with Chicago. Nevertheless, I am in awe of your tentacles. We need more like you in the NSA investigating corporatist globalist warmongers stat, unless you are the NSA, in which case please fuck off.
=*=
My sister the lesbian says that a woman can do anything a man can do, and do it better.
She can't get a 7" boner.
So, HAH!
somebody has voted for Burlington 6 times...we have a cheater in our midst who uses verizon!
not me, i'm on videotron
Plum P
ok, yes I see.
We are getting really good at name-calling, and, as good liberals, not much else.
I am an excellent shot.
Goodnight, finally.
i wish i knew. arrived 20 minutes ago and been trying to figure out why. on well... Maxx looked happy today plushynurse!
He's enjoying life as much as he can. Such a happy little guy.
Sounds like everyone is quite testy.
Testy was my least favorite Seven Dwarf.
Sounds like everyone is quite testy.
What's up with that?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Well... something to do with bears and baring arms, and then the Second Amendment got pulled in and then Hamilton and Jefferson and so I mentioned Aaron Burr and AK47s and Monkeyfister bought a house and there were some Nazi fighting the Quakers....
What's up with that?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Most of us have testycles. Maybe that's it.
Welp, need to finish up paperwork here. Be posting from the house later...
Testes? I'll show you testes...
4lg...there has been discussion by thers, res, prior and others to crash YearlyKos. Aug 2-5 in Chicago
It must suck to be 5"shorter than your sister.
Calling for some method of chasing down gun-wielding criminals makes me a Nazi. Well, a fucking Nazi.
Nice frame, Nazi.
You said that Vermont's old gun culture was tantamount to rigid Islamofascism. So you want to impose your worldview on my state, even if it would solve no problems in my state. That is tyrannical and fascist from where I sit.
You said I was defending fascism. That's fucking ridiculous. Whereas you advocate something that can be abused by government, which is the whole goddamned point of having the right defined in the first place. We have a right to resist tyranny from within and without. To some people, that involves guns. Not to me, but it's in the Constitution.
And as I said in the very fucking beginning, I think there can be reasonable limits on the right to bear arms, just as there are on free speech. But I do not want to ever hear absolutist bullshit spewed by someone atop a moral high horse.
Sounds like everyone is quite testy.
That takes balls to say something like that.
Testy was my least favorite Seven Dwarf. Thers
I prefered his twin brother Ballsy.
So they made a movie out of Eragon? boring book.
So, HAH!
Ô¿Ô | 12.02.06 - 12:42 am
lamer
I'm going to bed... read my deer hunting story, which will surely warm your heart, and give you an idea of the practicalities of country living.
My BIG plan is to become a CSA, and to become a Lifeboat of sorts. Ultimately, I want to go NFP, and teach Old-World Lifeskills... Cheesemaking, Beer and Winemaking, Tanning, Chicken Tractoring, Beekeeping, Archery, Hunting, and Gun Safety, all manner of all things old-school that are useful and practical. Eventually, I will find locals to teach sheep-shearing, wool-carding, wheeling and weaving, knitting... everything practical under the stars... I hate to say it it, but, butchering of livestock plays heavily into that-- I've done it, I know how to do it right, and I have no reason to be apologetic to ANYONE-- especially carnivors.
Simple as that. Good night, all!
--mf
For the record, I'm not a Nazi.
4lg...there has been discussion by thers, res, prior and others to crash YearlyKos. Aug 2-5 in Chicago
That's my plan too.
Testy was my least favorite Seven Dwarf. Thers
I prefered his twin brother Ballsy.
JeffCO
Don't forget the Republican dwarves: Greazy, Sleazy, and Gropey.
I don't know bro, I hope my daughter never sports even a 2" a boner, if she does, I'll change her name to OjO.
Give us some of that old time religion Todd.
So, HAH!
Ô¿Ô | 12.02.06 - 12:42 am
lamer
Ô¿Ô | 12.02.06 - 12:45 am | #
Cocksucker.
Richard:of course i saw Le Chandail!
are you checking out the Liberals convention first round results? Fucking Ignatieff is first but with lower numbers than expected (under 30%). Rae is at about 20%, then Dion and Kennedy separated by 2 votes. Second round at 9:30am tomorrow. The night is not over for the political strategists of all the candidates.
I prefered his twin brother Ballsy.
Ok, who stole my second r? Fess up you bastads!
somebody has voted for Burlington 6 times...we have a cheater in our midst who uses verizon!
I'm on Sovernet.
Testy was my least favorite Seven Dwarf.
My favorite was Horny.
That's my plan too.
fourlegsgood
Although I like the idea of DC better, this seems to work well. I think I'll skip Kos' commenting ethics class
You seem awfully interested about my antomy...
My favorite was Horny.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
You were the one who slipped Sleeping Beauty the roofie.
anyway; Moyers to West Point. just wow. - 1watt Hermit
That speach is a bodyshot to the liver of the Bush Malministration.
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After the war, forming a government and understanding both the nature of war and human nature, they determined to make it hard to go to war except to defend freedom; war for reasons save preserving the lives and liberty of your citizens should be made difficult to achieve, they argued. Here is John Jay’s passage in Federalist No. 4:
It is too true, however disgraceful it may be to human nature, that nations in general will make war whenever they have a prospect of getting anything by it; nay, absolute monarchs will often make war when their nations are to get nothing by it, but for the purposes and objects merely personal, such as thirst for military glory, revenge for personal affronts, ambition, or private compacts to aggrandize or support their particular families or partisans. These and a variety of other motives, which affect only the mind of the sovereign, often lead him to engage in wars not sanctified by justice or the voice and interests of his people.
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Exhibit A of why the "Executive Presidency" concept is un-American, treasonous.
4lg...there has been discussion by thers, res, prior and others to crash YearlyKos. Aug 2-5 in Chicago
That's my plan too.
fourlegsgood
Blog Wars II
You were the one who slipped Sleeping Beauty the roofie.
Max Planck |
I have always hated Disney catatonic women.
You seem awfully interested about my antomy...
Antomy? Oh, you must mean your anchovy.
Nope. I'm not interested in that little thing.
Blog Wars II
Plum P
and the logo...
It is the topic of your choice, oh great one. You wanna whip out your sisters 7" clitoris on our asses. That's funny.
Speaking of catatonic:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...-of-
wisdom.html
Gah, how laaaaaaaaaaaaame.
Although I like the idea of DC better, this seems to work well. I think I'll skip Kos' commenting ethics class
We're going to go and not attend any Kos events or talk to any fucking Kossacks.
We'll just drink a lot of whiskey.
You seem awful