I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
can't the dead get along?
How's yer boy, Poppy?
"Still, what's really important is making sure that no one criticizes the people responsible for this catastrophe. That would be partisan!"
no, it would be bipartisan, and take one hell of a long time, and at some point the matter of who was right might come up, and who wants to talk about dirty hippies?
Well as long as we all understand that they are trying to avoid going down in history as supporting the worst military debacle in US history by the worst president EVVVVVVVVV-AH in US history...
and the only folks who support the troops are the dirty hippies and the folks spitting on them on their way to their graves are the wise old men of Washington.
Still, what's really important is making sure that no one criticizes the people responsible for this catastrophe. That would be partisan!
Where have you gone, Lee Hamilton? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Woo woo woo.
CNN sez 38 people dead in car bomb attack.
Oh, my God!
Wait, it's in Baghdad?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz........
What, just 38?
That's not even worth dragging out a missing blond in Aruba to cover up.
Blaming is partisan, because it's the gatway drug to harder stuff, like "accountability" and "consequences" and "punishment"......
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Where have you gone, Lee Hamilton? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
You're thinking of "Scott" Hamilton, right?
Woo woo woo.
It's their fault for still living in Iraq
Who is talking about dirty hippies again, dammit?
Still, what's really important is making sure that no one criticizes the people responsible for this catastrophe. That would be partisan!
that would be 'backward looking' when we know there may only be 'progress' when the People look ahead...
innit?
I blame myself.
It'll be fine in six months.
Every day in America a car with 38 victims blows up when the clowns climb out of midget VW at the circus... so the death toll there in Iraq is no worse.
Outside agitators, no doubt. They'll be booted out when democracy takes over.
You're thinking of "Scott" Hamilton, right?
Brian Boitano, what would he do?
that Atrios is exactly what i was thinking last nite...PIN THIS WAR on the Jackass who dragged us there...that handfull of TRAITORS are responsible for MASS MURDER,AND PLUNDER just like Presscott and his Nazi buddies...score Xtians 10 ...Brown people 0
"Quick, call Ed Meese, he'll know what to do!"
CNN sez 38 people dead in car bomb attack.
People? Or Iraqis?
Well, so long as its not soldiers. Wait: we can't question who sends our soldiers into that chaos either. We must support the troops!
Oh, Lee Hamilton, you are truly our nation's guiding light in this time of darkness! Lead us, Lee! Lead us to compromise and "the middle way" that accepts the continued senseless slaughter of so many human beings so we can enjoy our holiday of peace on earth and goodwill toward all humanity without moral qualms or the disturbance of our national conscience!
I picked up Fiasco again, and it just gets me mad. So many decisions were made for immediate political gain, with any thought of future ramifications tossed out. Like going whole hog in Fallujah after the contractors were murdered and strung up. The general on the ground begged for time to find the perps and take care of it in a mild manner so as not to create more problems. Alas, the WH needed a big show so that's what they got. In the process we lost.
We multiculturalists have to erase Iraq, first, before we can recreate it in the socialist mode.
CNN sez 38 people dead in car bomb attack.
This could have happened in any city in the US. Proof that Iraq is not having a civil war.
[/dumbass winger]
Let's do a triple axel and get out of there.
BTW, you do know that we are all targets, right?
There we no car bombs from 1860-1865.
suck it liberals!
Maybe Althouse can post a totally unpartisan analysis to help me understand the important issues the ISG faces.
Brian Boitano, what would he do?
Our little Iraqi adventure looks like it was planned by Jeff Gillooly.
In the process we lost.
Same way we lost New Orleans, which should have been a bigger issue in November. Best comment I've heard on that city lately is a reporter saying it was America's Pompeii. Sounded about right, but who's really paying attention anymore?
Nothing has changed down there in 18 months. Nothing substantive, anyway. We lost a major American city and no one seems to so much as noticed anymore.
I'm sure Lee Hamilton can show us the middle way on the Gulf Coast as soon as he's split the baby in Iran. I am so looking forward to it.
How many car bombs went off today in Philly, Atrios?
Help. Me.
Alas, the WH needed a big show so that's what they got. In the process we lost.
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mornin QL
remember when the PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION aka chimpy said...Im going to Bagdad to FUCK Hussein?
BTW, you do know that we are all targets, right?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
Yea, my copilot and I were trying to think what our numbers could be.
Must be real high, but they keep letting us leave.
Let's do a triple axel and get out of there.
Culture of Truth
We must defeat the Axel of Evil and Al-Qamel.
We lost a major American city and no one seems to so much as noticed anymore.
I don't really like gumbo, or humidity.
MOE: i have to go to my condo board meeting. The results of the second round should be around noon. I'll be back for that. Later!
LOL. I'm being dragged off by my randy redheaded wife...
I don't know if survival is a possibility or not.
I don't really like gumbo, or humidity.
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
NTodd is a troll! And a Yankee!
PLUM: Ignatieff's speech was like a college lecture to a freshman class. It was slow, he talked down to the crowd, repeated in french what he had just said in English.
Mrs. Moe said to me afterwards, "what, is toastmasters telling people to speak slow now?" It seems to be the new speaking style: assume your audience is a bunch of dumbasses.
mornin QL
remember when the PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION aka chimpy said...Im going to Bagdad to FUCK Hussein?
sittenpretty,MCI SUCKS
My goodness snp, you're on a tear this morning. 
Don't hold back, tell us what ya really thing of the emperor.
But... but..
the people responsible for this catastrophe are those hippy liberal Dems. Their so-called "change election" has fomented all this here secTARIAN violence, don't you see?
that's why we gotta stay the course
heh heh heh
When Bush stood on that rubble that was such a proud moment for me.
I can't remember which city it was now but it was still realy cool.
BTW, you do know that we are all targets, right?
NTodd, Syncopated & Poignant
Yea, my copilot and I were trying to think what our numbers could be.
Must be real high, but they keep letting us leave.
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gave ya a shout out downstairs dearheart
Plum is in that celebrated "eastern time zone." We've heard rumour of that, but we resist.
Along these lines, I hear the wealthy educated Iraqis are pulling out of Iraq. So there is a pull out of sorts going on.
Same way we lost New Orleans, which should have been a bigger issue in November. Best comment I've heard on that city lately is a reporter saying it was America's Pompeii. Sounded about right, but who's really paying attention anymore?
Scout prime, say, and Laura Flanders, who will have Malik Rahim of New Orleans' Common Ground Collective on her RadioNation program tonight.
Kittens!
Okay, really really leaving now.
Tom Ricks, Fiasco, p. 325:
Nor was the White House nearly as enthusiastic about Bremer as it had been a year earlier. "By early '04, the president was quite aware of Bremer's flaws," said a former administration official. "But he couldn't let him go in an election year. He knows that Bremer is a control freak, that he won't release information, that he wouldn't listen to anyone's suggestions or direction." Most important, the star-crossed American effort wasn't producing results. It was during this period, the official noted, that Condi Rice began calling Bremer nearly every day in an effort to get Iraq policy on track.
Fuckers.
LOL. I'm being dragged off by my randy redheaded wife...
I don't know if survival is a possibility or not.
Death Before Dishonor!
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Might I take this opportunity to state how disgusted I am by democrats who are stumbling over each other in their zeal to distance themselves from Jimmy Carter and his latest book?
Woo hoo! We're right!
Historians are loath to predict the future. It is impossible to say with certainty how Bush will be ranked in, say, 2050. But somehow, in his first six years in office he has managed to combine the lapses of leadership, misguided policies and abuse of power of his failed predecessors. I think there is no alternative but to rank him as the worst president in U.S. history.
And in the Washington Post no less! hee hee.
gave ya a shout out downstairs dearheart
sittenpretty,MCI SUCKS
I missed it between the duvets and the raperies and zhoushes.
Sorry.
A Senate confirmation hearing is scheduled Tuesday for Robert Gates, the nominee to replace Donald Rumsfeld as defense secretary. Democrats plan to ask Gates about his role in Reagan administration's Iran-Contra scandal, but in general they're vowing a "fair and fresh" look at a man who has served under six presidents.
if the fucking Dumbocraps cannot get it together to put a stake in Gates' nomination, embarrass the fuck out of the lying, criminal shitwhistle, i shall not have much hope for change in the new congress...
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Best comment I've heard on that city lately is a reporter saying it was America's Pompeii.
maybe they just meant it was ancient history. To most of the sheeple, it is
X rayed, irradiated holiday travel accessories are the new black...
Plum is in that celebrated "eastern time zone." We've heard rumour of that, but we resist.
Moe Szyslak
Bad time zone, all the good TV comes on too late.
Might I take this opportunity to state how disgusted I am by democrats who are stumbling over each other in their zeal to distance themselves from Jimmy Carter and his latest book?
BlakNo1
Disgusted; not surprised. But if Carter can manage to get the Palestinian issue discussed in this country in terms other than, well, never discussing it, EVER!, he'll deserve another Nobel Peace Prize.
The man has become a national treasure, and a voice of both reason and morality.
Rmj, Street Credentialed
sorry - I've learned my lesson
no more commenting before coffee
Plum is in that celebrated "eastern time zone." We've heard rumour of that, but we resist.
Moe Szyslak
yes i am!
RO: thanks for the kitties! When the news are bad in Iraq, thanks Gaia for kittens!
here some more: http://plush-life.blogspot.com/
My goodness snp, you're on a tear this morning.
Don't hold back, tell us what ya really thing of the emperor.
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you know me ...Im thinking of the Wanton Carnage...My Dad used to own a Blood Bank where i worked during college...I just cant take this needless Tsunami of Blood...think of all the poor cats dogs parrots ...shudder
if the fucking Dumbocraps cannot get it together to put a stake in Gates' nomination, embarrass the fuck out of the lying, criminal shitwhistle, i shall not have much hope for change in the new congress...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
If we block his nomination the media will harp on obama's middle name so let's all play nice...
I distinctly remember closing those tags. I blame w.
Morning sitting pretty.
I distinctly remember closing those tags. I blame w.
Morning sitting pretty.
And in the Washington Post no less! hee hee.
pie
I would rank Bush in the top 50 presidents we have ever had.
A world of relationships.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I'm only going to look because I know it's the first of the month.
Blaming is partisan, because it's the gateway drug to harder stuff, like "accountability" and "consequences" and "punishment"
Al Gore: And now the Woodward book has this episode that has been confirmed by the record that George Tenet, who was much abused by this administration, went over to the White House for the purpose of calling an emergency meeting and warning as clearly as possible about the extremely dangerous situation with Osama bin Laden, and was brushed off! And I don’t know why—honestly—I mean, I understand how horrible this Congressman Foley situation with the instant messaging is, okay? I understand that. But, why didn’t these kinds of things produce a similar outrage? And you know, I’m even reluctant to talk about it in these terms because it’s so easy for people to hear this or read this as sort of cheap political game-playing. I understand how it could sound that way. [Practically screaming now] But dammit, whatever happened to the concept of accountability for catastrophic failure? This administration has been by far the most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice, and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and obliviousness to the public interest of any administration in modern history, and probably in the entire history of the country!
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ hi katie ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
i owe the money fair dinkum--called the insurance company, and it's 'my share.'
the whole procedure cost over $40k, if you can believe it...jeezis, i'm lucky to have insurance...
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"Monsieuer, j'ai connu Jack Kennedy. Il était mon ami. Vous n'êtes pas Jack Kennedy."
A Senate confirmation hearing is scheduled Tuesday for Robert Gates, the nominee to replace Donald Rumsfeld as defense secretary. Democrats plan to ask Gates about his role in Reagan administration's Iran-Contra scandal
Iran-Who?
Bad time zone, all the good TV comes on too late.
We're even an hour later here. TDS comes on at midnight.
Blaming is partisan, because it's the gateway drug to harder stuff, like "accountability" and "consequences" and "punishment".
but, but, but, but that would be looking baaaaaaack...
/puke apologist
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The man has become a national treasure, and a voice of both reason and morality.
Listening to him speak yesterday on Democracy Now was wonderful and infuriating at the same time.
Yahoo says it was several car bomb attacks.
This could go on and n and on, forever, and Bush would never be fazed by it, would he?
Anyway, Mo Do starts out today's column with, "If you call Barack Obama’s office to check the spelling of his middle name, the reply comes back: 'Like the dictator.'"
It gets better...
This administration has been by far the most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice, and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and obliviousness to the public interest of any administration in modern history, and probably in the entire history of the country!
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
It's the moral cowardice parading as moral courage and perspicacity that has begun to intrigue me.
And lead me to despair.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, he's our man!!
Go, Al!
We have forged a new foreign policy consensus in opposition to Bush and his war. Some bi-partisan work on their behalf might help, some.
Best comment I've heard on that city lately is a reporter saying it was America's Pompeii.
maybe they just meant it was ancient history. To most of the sheeple, it is
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well...that never was rebuilt...New Orleans ....hopefully will not be fucked over
MoDo, ever helpful, is flogging Ed Roger's gratuitous announcement that Obama's middle name is "Hussein."
And the Post is reporting the "middle way" recommendation from the ISG. Thanks a lot, guys!
Rmj, Street Credentialed
sorry - I've learned my lesson
no more commenting before coffee
Liars for Bush
No problem. I'm quite intentionally provocative in my irony.
And overdue for coffee myself.
And lead me to despair.
Why should it lead you there when the American people have rejected it?
GO AL GORE!
♥ ♥ ♥ hi katie ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
i owe the money fair dinkum--called the insurance company, and it's 'my share.'
the whole procedure cost over $40k, if you can believe it...jeezis, i'm lucky to have insurance...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar | Homepage | 12.02.06 - 9:44 am | #
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maybe its time to look into supplemental....nah ...your a happy bouncing baby man!!!
Felix is worse than Hussein.
I would love to hear what Al Gore thinks of Carter's book.
Goops and troops, both are gonna need time, and rest.
And the Post is reporting the "middle way" recommendation from the ISG. Thanks a lot, guys!
As i said a thread or two down, the last 2-3 years of Vietnam were devoted to finding a way to exit gracefully, the plan was to stay-the-course-until-they-stand-up, and the result was overloaded helicopters leaving the roof of the Saigon embassy.
but these guys are sooo much smarter than the committies then, yaas suh.......
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Why should it lead you there when the American people have rejected it?
pie
Not electoral despair; but it's an intriguing problem, discerning true morality from false.
Bush continues to cling to the false, and the MSM continues to cling to it with him. This war was sold as a "moral" cause (in part), and now we face a true moral dilemma because of that lie: leave, and let Iraq sink deeper into chaos (possibly, though I'm not sure that's true); stay, and continue to foment further chaos by our presence (which I am sure is true).
Should we stay, or should we go? What's the "moral" thing to do?
This is what comes of playing fast and loose with morality. It comes back to bite you. Hard.
"Monsieuer, j'ai connu Jack Kennedy. Il était mon ami. Vous n'êtes pas Jack Kennedy."
Colbert's Apprentice
(it's "monsieur" but close enough!)
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CNN sez 38 people dead in car bomb attack."
Some morning Tom Waits, Whistlin' Past the Graveyard.
Felix is worse than Hussein.
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Bush is America's Pompey and a great man he is too. True, mistakes were made when he lost Rome without a fight, and as wiki says "Like all the other conservatives, Pompey had to run for his life," but that's just cause like Bush he had bad generals. Also like Bush he was stabbed in the back by haters.
Historians are loath to predict the future. It is impossible to say with certainty how Bush will be ranked in, say, 2050.
Are not. It just isn't part of the job. Whyn't they ask a futurist?
It's better to be killed outright than to spend a year in Iranian captivity, listening to those asshole prayers every fucking minute of every fucking day.
Perhaps Barack should simply visit King Abdullah of Jordan whose family has the Hussein/Hashemite name... or better yet invite the man here.
Well, that's a typo. Stephen and I both speak french, unfortunately we were raised by traitors but grew out of it.
We started it, we must go.
It's pretty sickening to see the amount of use to which all those tons of HEX that we allowed to get lifted from right under our fucking noses early on are being put. Everybody was hyperventilatingf about every goddam rusty drum of old insecticide they could get their hands on, and meanwhile the means to produce the bloody mess we wallow in today were being systematically acquired by those who knew where to find them --seemingly without interference from our garrison.
Even if you let them slide on the myiad reasons that this war was wrong on first principles and also not a good idea no matter how it was prosecuted, it is still just stunning how badly they have fucked it up on top of that. Just retaining a relative handful of the senior officers of the old Iraqi army in an advisory capacity, paying them a good salary, would have been sufficient to secure the vast majority of the armaments that are now fuelling this violence. But noooOOOooo! They had to have every last thing their own way, as if they were commanding the whole fucking AEF in WWII instead of a handful of divisions. The depth of their incompetence, their failure to learn from history, and their resistance to reality is just stunning. Words fail.
Well, that's a typo. Stephen and I both speak french, unfortunately we were raised by traitors but grew out of it.
Je ne parle pas francaise, and damn proud of it!
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PLUM: no snark intended, but if Dion is so hated, how does he keep getting elected?
We're even an hour later here. TDS comes on at midnight.
Moe Szyslak
7pm for me at home, Olberman at 4 pm
Historians are loath to predict the future. It is impossible to say with certainty how Bush will be ranked in, say, 2050.
Are not. It just isn't part of the job. Whyn't they ask a futurist?
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 12.02.06 - 9:53 am
I predict fresh new worst draperies and duvets.
It's better to be killed outright than to spend a year in Iranian captivity, listening to those asshole prayers every fucking minute of every fucking day.
Lime Rickey
Bennie Weir didn't think so - 'course he started right in pilpul'ing, so much so they were damned glad to be rid of him before they had to start the seminar on comparative theologies that he'd scheduled.
Not electoral despair; but it's an intriguing problem, discerning true morality from false.
That's what happens when you let others determine the setting on your personal moral compass.
Not at all gay drapes are hung...
Sheets, owls, duvets, and even matching drapes.
The woman sitting in front of me at the American Bar business law meeting yesterday smelled like dope. Not patchouli, but honest to god boo.
Not that I am really complaining.
"Still, what's really important is making sure that no one criticizes the people responsible for this catastrophe. That would be partisan!" - Atrios
It seems like the people responsible for that catastrophe are the people who planted the car bomb, the people who finanaced the bombing, and those who gave them religous cover?
But we all know Atrios lives in a fantasy world where all things evil can be traced back to Bush.
Pelosi, Murtha and Nedrenaline thank you for 2006 Duncan.
Cog! I TOLD you to stay the fuck out of my underwear, you little pervert!
Are the Abu Ghraib/Gitmo photos not turning you on anymore, dear?
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