I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarBocephus


GravatarFirst?


Gravatarfuck bush first!


GravatarMiller Time at the bar where all the English meet.
She used to drink in the hills, but now she drinks in the valleys.
-Thomas Dolby


GravatarBLAST!!


Gravatardamn cat on my lap deprived me of my rightful frist!


GravatarWhen trees attack...!


GravatarHey kids, rock and roll, rock on, oh my soul.


GravatarBush was even aware of the incident, instead webb went ballistic on him and threatened to kill him in the oval office.
dally | 12.02.06 - 11:49 pm | #

Yep, that's what happened for sure.

He said 'george, how about I stuff my boot up your ass you stupid fucking asshole? I mean you dumb fucking nitwit! You put mine and others children in harms way and they are getting killed in droves you stupid fucking bitch! Now walk away or I'll cram that stupid fucking empty head of yours up your stupid fucking ass!"

At which point bush started crying like the little bitch coward that he is and then he pleaded and begged and ran away.

Yeah, that's just what happened.


Gravatar...yet gotta be ready... and lucky!


GravatarRe-HICA!
.


GravatarRock on.

Never!


Gravatar...yet gotta be ready... and lucky!

It's a gift, baby.


GravatarThis is one of the most beautiful songs in the rock universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=xseN5UmA6_U


GravatarThis is one of the most beautiful songs in the rock universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=xseN5UmA6_U


GravatarOkay, my kid just left for a midnight showing of Rocky Horror. She is dressed as a boy.


Gravatar"Re-HICA!"

i've always wondered, what the heck is a hica?


GravatarMR COMPUTER DECLARES THIS THREAD TO BE PROPERTY OF THE ELECTRONIC as opposed to the organic.


GravatarTrollbane.
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateF...198&x=406& y=286

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateF...112&x=399& y=287

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateF...018&x=411& y=283

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GravatarRacists hacked the Wikipedia article on the Emancipation Proclamation.

I've got screenshots to prove it.
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GravatarOkay, my kid just left for a midnight showing of Rocky Horror. She is dressed as a boy.

Oh, Bra-ad — I'm mad!


GravatarWhen are the troops coming home?


Gravatargood night all. sweet dreams and don't let the trolls bite....


GravatarIt's a gift, baby...

Yeah... sometimes I have a whole dissertation just waiting on the computer's clipboard ready to go: and to be stymied by "Troll Comment Scrubbed" is just so... so ...infuriating!


GravatarOne of our submarines is missing.


GravatarRacists hacked the Wikipedia article on the Emancipation Proclamation.

Incognito has been online lately.


GravatarOh, Bra-ad — I'm mad!

Oh, monica, I'm doing my best by her. I really worry about it, though.


GravatarAs many as 700 people are now feared to have died after typhoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

Wow.


GravatarOne of our submarines is missing.


...Dr Who? Or Gary Seven?


Gravatarit may be that sanctimonious emaciated Jared dude?


GravatarMarchbleed, you might really like Ivy.


GravatarAs many as 700 people are now feared to have died after typhoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

Crap.


Gravatar...Dr Who? Or Gary Seven?

I was inspired by Marchbleed up there.


GravatarAs many as 700 people are now feared to have died after typhoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

"You ain't got nothin' on me," says the 2004 tsunami.


Gravatar"You ain't got nothin' on me," says the 2004 tsunami.

Horrible. I'm doing a bunch of projects with survivors, mostly kids in Aceh.

Among other things, it totally destroyed the Acehnese independence movement.


GravatarAs many as 700 people are now feared to have died after typhoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

Jesus. What a nightmare world it is.


GravatarAs many as 700 people are now feared to have died after typhoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

Jesus. What a nightmare world it is.


GravatarBleach on now at Adult Swim, but if this is news then you have missed the opening sequence, which rocks.


GravatarNew thread already? We were just getting started with 3 or 4 arguments downstairs


GravatarI'm doing my best by her. I really worry about it, though.

Are you concerned about her safety tonight? If you're worries are more general, I'd say that you seem to be both attentive and strong, Molly, which must serve her well.


GravatarWhat the fuck? Year after year the same bullshit
prevails. More of the same. Wake up fools.
Take this personally. Morons. Opps. Wrong thread
wrong century wrong wrong wrong......

figure it out.


GravatarCarried over from the previous thread...

incog is the same person he has always been as far as i can tell. generally a pretty good egg who happens to have a gigantic chip on his shoulder.
Olaf glad and big |

There have been plenty of times over the years where it's admitted that when it gets bored it trolls to make a little excitement for itself and the rest of the world can get fucked for its excitement.
Tom - 大肚腩

Here's the last time...

OK, I confess. It's all me. I'll stop now.
Ô¿Ô

Why'd you start?
Richard

Boredom.
Ô¿Ô | 11.21.06 - 1:10 am | #


Gravatarmonica,
Nah, it's a small town; she'll be fine. But her sexuality is in flux, and she fights anxiety and depression. The first of these is no problem for us, but I worry that the latter mean they're a problem for her.


GravatarOkay, my kid just left for a midnight showing of Rocky Horror. She is dressed as a boy.

Oh, Bra-ad — I'm mad!
masculine_monica_nyc



Great Scott!


GravatarAmong other things, it totally destroyed the Acehnese independence movement.

That's fucking depressing.


GravatarMolly: Thanks! Checked she/them out on Itunes just now. Really good stuff! And I'd never thought I'd say that about a vocalist who sounds that similar to Karen Carpenter (who I admired for both singing and songwriting but who was tragically overplayed on the radio in her time).


Gravatar...survivors and disasters:

It all seems pretty ...arbitrary at times. So here's my prayer: I hope they're all in heaven a half hour before the devil knows their dead!


GravatarPlanet. Shmanet. Janet.


Gravatartyphoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

I'm sure Art will be speaking about it latter on Coast. He lives in the Philippines now.


Gravatar
That's fucking depressing.


Tell me about it. The Indonesian Army moved the suspected members of the Acehnese resistance movement GAM out of the villages to....

the beach.

Fuck.


GravatarOkay, my kid just left for a midnight showing of Rocky Horror. She is dressed as a boy.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:00 am | #
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one time my sister and her friends rented the video of rocky horror. i tried to explain to them that they were sort of missing the whole point.


GravatarAs many as 700 people are now feared to have died after typhoon-triggered mudslides engulfed entire villages in the eastern Philippines, the Red Cross said Sunday.

Crap.
Molly Ivors |


have they shown the video on US news of the villages at the base of the volcano that were innundated with the mud slides? (and no, I'm not talking about a smooth kahlua and bailey's drink)


Gravatar Okay, my kid just left for a midnight showing of Rocky Horror. She is dressed as a boy.

Is she a sweet transvestite?


GravatarRacists hacked the Wikipedia article on the Emancipation Proclamation.

Abe shakes his head and says "I got yer Wikipedia, right ovah heah."


GravatarIt's just a jump to the left...


GravatarIvy is a side project of Adam Schlesinger of Fountains of Wayne.


GravatarOK, I confess. It's all me. I'll stop now.
Ô¿Ô

Why'd you start?
Richard

Boredom.
Ô¿Ô | 11.21.06 - 1:10 am | #
Richard | 12.03.06 - 12:10 am | #


Can't you see I was joking?


GravatarI wish my kids could have gone to Rocky Horror when they were teens. Out here cow tipping was about it.
.


GravatarIs she a sweet transvestite?

Indeed.


GravatarMommy? Daddy?

What the fuck it just feels good.

http://i27.photobucket.com/album.../ Picture028.jpg


Gravatar"Racists hacked the Wikipedia article on the Emancipation Proclamation."

Incognito has been online lately.
masculine_monica_nyc | 12.03.06 - 12:02 am | #


I don't get this comment. Incog is a multi-racial Creole, not hostile to any of his races


Gravatari think "there's a light over at the frankenstein place" is a really beautiful song. seriously.


Gravatarhave they shown the video on US news of the villages at the base of the volcano that were innundated with the mud slides?

Not that I've seen yet.


GravatarWe staged a protest at the Union League hall. We mustered about three dozen people.


GravatarAgave,

Great pic.


Gravatari think "there's a light over at the frankenstein place" is a really beautiful song. seriously.
Olaf glad and big

Me too.


GravatarIncog is a multi-racial Creole, not hostile to any of his races

He sure hates Arabs, though.


GravatarLife's like a movie, write your own ending, keep believing, keep pretending, we've done just what we set out to do.


GravatarDraco, just ignore the clipped-haried bull-dyke.


GravatarDarkness must go down the river of night's dreaming. Flow morphia slow and let the sun and light come streaming into my eyes.


Gravatarincog is the same person he has always been as far as i can tell. generally a pretty good egg who happens to have a gigantic chip on his shoulder.

A racist isn't a generally good egg; neither is a misogynist. Incognito is both, and proud of it.

her sexuality is in flux, and she fights anxiety and depression. The first of these is no problem for us, but I worry that the latter mean they're a problem for her.

I don't have children, so I can only imagine how difficult it is for you to worry about her potential depression. But I know you've spoken of her sexuality in the past — and having gone through a difficult period in my teens and early 20s regarding sexuality and depression, myself, I can say that I think it would have been easier if my parents had allowed me to openly experiment in the way you seem to allow her to. I don't want to make assumptions about either of you, but I believe from reading your posts here that you give her space to think about who she might become, an ear to talk about it if she chooses to, and a strong model to follow. Each of those comforts is considerable and important.

Some of that potential depression is probably the traditional angst that comes with being her age; but I think you're wise to keep in your heart and mind her specific struggle around sexuality. If I can help in any way, please just ask.


GravatarCan't you see I was joking?

You mean like that speech about never coming back?


GravatarIf I can help in any way, please just ask.

Thanks. Our only real rule is don't spend time with anyone who treats you like shit.


GravatarIf you have occasion to go by DC, check out the Lincoln Memorial. The sculptor somehow made it so Abe is particularly looking at you.


Gravatar1991 Pinatubo... now that was a doomsday....


GravatarEchidne of the snakes



GravatarMaybe public servants should swear on the Constitution(as opposed to the Bible) to serve and protect the Constitution.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h? v=fH8258lB0L4


GravatarThe sculptor somehow made it so Abe is particularly looking at you.

Freaky!


GravatarHell, Mr Computer is tempted to say that given Incog's unreliability except in his faults, other Atriots of borderline acceptibility are preferable to the point of deserving immediate reinstatement, such as, just to throw out names totally at random, kei and yuri.


GravatarYou mean like that speech about never coming back?
Richard


whatever. I can't really get into it here at work but I'll be home after 7am CST tomorrow morning if you want to discuss it some more then...


GravatarI think Richard is jack. I think Richard is every troll here. he never joins in discussions, he's just always talking aobut trolls.


GravatarD'ja see this piece in the NYTimes about the increasing acceptance (kind of) of kids with unusual gender identity?


GravatarWe staged a protest at the Union League hall. We mustered about three dozen people.

Cool. Some folks were talking about that protest hereabouts earlier.


GravatarA racist isn't a generally good egg; neither is a misogynist. Incognito is both, and proud of it.
*******************************

he's got issues. we all do. he's generally ok though. i think incog has been through more shit than most of us.


GravatarFreaky!
Molly Ivors


As in, I did all I could, what have you got to offer?


GravatarWhen are the troops coming home?
annieangel | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:01 am | #

They've been coming home for months now, some missing body parts, some in boxes, you gotta do it til ya do it right. Ya wanna be a hero right!


GravatarThe sculptor somehow made it so Abe is particularly looking at you.

My grandma's best room had a photograph of some long-gone president with an angry scowl and a walrus moustache, and the eyes of the guy in the photograph followed you all over the room. I was so scared of him that I crawled behind the sofa to cross the room.


GravatarD'ja see this piece in the NYTimes about the increasing acceptance (kind of) of kids with unusual gender identity?

I did. Really interesting, sure to piss off the "shower naked with dad" fundies.


Gravatar...that's T-Ti-Tim Curry!


Gravatarhe's just always talking aobut trolls.
annieangel


I like how jack really gets under Richard's skin. Some character flaw Richard has there...


Gravatari think "there's a light over at the frankenstein place" is a really beautiful song. seriously.
Olaf glad and big



I'm partial to this one myself:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=zZNqhC36BW4


GravatarShut up, Richard.


GravatarWell, incog's picking fights, and between he and annie, it's just too depressing. Later dollfaces!


GravatarThey are going back wearing prosthetic limbs. Start the draft.


GravatarOur only real rule is don't spend time with anyone who treats you like shit. Molly Ivors

You can't protect her from her life, but having incredibly supportive, smart, and loving parents puts her way ahead of most kids.


Gravatar1991 Pinatubo... now that was a doomsday....

Here's a quasi-doomsday for you...

Were the Dark Ages Triggered by Volcano-Related Climate Changes in the 6th Century?
http://www.ees1.lanl.gov/Wohletz...tz/ Krakatau.htm


GravatarOur only real rule is don't spend time with anyone who treats you like shit.

That's a good'n.

i think incog has been through more shit than most of us.

You know, it's pointless to engage a person who weights his perceived victimhood against the problems of others and deems himself the MOPE. Also, as Molly said, there's no good reason to spend time with anyone who treats you like shit.


GravatarThe sculptor somehow made it so Abe is particularly looking at you.

Jane! The man they call Jane!


Gravatarachilles was a deserter. people tend to forget that for some reason.


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes


GravatarThe clipped haired bull dyke accused me of hacking wikipedia for racist intent to begin with. Who's starting it? And Richard seriously needs to get a grip.


GravatarWere the Dark Ages Triggered by Volcano-Related Climate Changes in the 6th Century?


...or a meteorite fall?


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes
Atrios | 12.03.06 - 12:28 am | #


Oh, be nice!


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes

Have some soup.


Gravatarachilles was a deserter. people tend to forget that for some reason.
Olaf glad and big


Yeah, he was a bit of a HEEL.


Gravatarachilles was a deserter. people tend to forget that for some reason.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:28 am |

Achilles wasn't just a deserter, he deserted because Agamemnon wouldn't let him rape the slave girl he wanted. So he was a deserting rapist (but more than anything else) whiny ass titty baby.


GravatarHetero=Hybrid, you can't fix either one.


GravatarAlso, as Molly said, there's no good reason to spend time with anyone who treats you like shit.
masculine_monica_nyc | 12.03.06 - 12:28 am | #
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there's a difference between allowing yourself to be treated like shit and just accepting the good and the bad of someone.


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes

Have some soap.


Fixed your typo


GravatarDraco, just ignore the clipped-haried bull-dyke.
Ô¿Ô | 12.03.06 - 12:19 am | #


Jesus. What an infantile asshole you are.


GravatarMore great rock opera!


Gravatarhave they shown the video on US news of the villages at the base of the volcano that were innundated with the mud slides?

Not that I've seen yet.
Molly Ivors |


Really scary stuff.

News here reported that Canada and Japan have already donated a million US$ for relief.


Gravatar
I hate all you hetero pukes
Atrios


Atrios, it certainly would be interesting to see the IP address logs for the last 20 minutes or so of comments.


Gravatarthere's a difference between allowing yourself to be treated like shit and just accepting the good and the bad of someone.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:30 am | #

That's interestingly put. Can you explain it more?


GravatarThe trolls and/or namestealing trolls and/or trolls talking about other trolls, or pseudotrolls, are confusing the hell out of me tonight. And I can't drink because I'm on anti-inflammatory medication.


GravatarBush was even aware of the incident, instead webb went ballistic on him and threatened to kill him in the oval office.
dally


Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure he did.

Uh-huh.


Gravatarthere's a difference between allowing yourself to be treated like shit and just accepting the good and the bad of someone.

The difference being whether or not one is the target of incognito's racism and misogyny? Fuck him.


Gravatarhetero pukes


Fruit? Or vegetable?


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes
Atrios


Suck me

.


GravatarWhoo-hoo!

Just talked to sittenpretty -- WGG, be lookin' for e-mail from me tomorrow, RE: PayPal button on yer bloggie.
.


GravatarLee Corso's eyes are really freaking close together. Almost as bad as Hannity.


GravatarAgamemnon wouldn't let him rape the slave girl he wanted.


Because HE wanted her for himself.

Women as property...lovely.


GravatarThat's interestingly put. Can you explain it more?
annieangel | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:31 am | #

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no. just read it again.


GravatarAdam Schlesinger played two songs in my loft in Williamsburg in 1993. One was a funny cover of "Calendar Girl," and the other I can't remember.

Just sayin'.


GravatarBleach on now at Adult Swim, but if this is news then you have missed the opening sequence, which rocks.

yay, Orange Range...


GravatarAchilles was an honorable man.


GravatarThere's bee a lot of unpleasantness here lately, including namestealing. I wish Atrios would crack down

Incog was namestolen at least thrice last week by someone who didn't even know which state he lived in

But at least Incog had made enemies. I was namestolen having done nothing to offend, and whoever did so got everything wrong--style, grammar, vocabulary, you name it


GravatarBulimia is never lovable, whether hetero or not.


GravatarJesus. What an infantile asshole you are.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


You drunk? Anybody insults me, I insult back. It's really not that hard a concept to understand.


GravatarI read it again. Can you expand your thought?


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes

Stop oppressing me!


Oh. Never mind.


GravatarYou drunk? Anybody insults me, I insult back.

Yeah, I've noticed your restraint on numerous occasions.

Fuck the fuck off and die, if you won't get the help you need. Do It Now.
.


Gravatari just have always seen incog as the eyeore of this particular hundred acre wood. it wouldn't be a proper hundred acre wood without him.


Gravatarthere's a difference between allowing yourself to be treated like shit and just accepting the good and the bad of someone.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:30 am | #


If I knew Incog personally, maybe I'd have more sympathy or tolerance. But all I know about his problems is what he posts here, which could be true or not.


GravatarJeffraham!

Just got back from enjoying some Mongolian Barbecue.

And tonight, in your honor, I tried it with pig. It was very nice


GravatarAchilles was an honorable man.
bull | 12.03.06 - 12:34 am | #
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you're thinking of brutus.


GravatarAchilles Shield is said to be buried somewhere on Mount Ararat.


GravatarI wonder if Muslims fear a chick with a 7" clit.


GravatarNo royal decrees
Can stop the blowing breeze.


GravatarBecuase to me, Olaf, it sounds like an excuse for bad behavior. I don't think that is what you intend.


GravatarYou drunk? Anybody insults me, I insult back. It's really not that hard a concept to understand.
Ô¿Ô | 12.03.06 - 12:35 am | #


I am, as it happens. But she didn't insult you. She called you a racist, which you've given her ample reason to do over the years.


GravatarBush was even aware of the incident, instead webb went ballistic on him and threatened to kill him in the oval office.
dally


Oh, Good God, dally. A sitting Vice President has now twice discharged a firearm into another man.

Preston Brooks beat Senator Sumner into a coma on the legislative floor, over criticism of fucking Franklin Pierce.

Senator Webb's inability to fellate Shrub is just something you are going to have to come to terms with.


GravatarI'm not tech savy. I still can't get my email account to work on my new laptop. I don't know about roaming ISPs or whatever to have different posting names. Atrios can check IP addresses and I've only had two for years. One for home, and another from work.


GravatarYep, the insurgency is in its very last throes.


http://www.comcast.net/news/inde.../02/ 533481.html


GravatarBush was even aware of the incident, instead webb went ballistic on him and threatened to kill him in the oval office.

Pity he didn't.


Gravatari just have always seen incog as the eyeore of this particular hundred acre wood. it wouldn't be a proper hundred acre wood without him.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:36 am |

dude. simels is christopher robin, chidyke is kanga, eli is roo, k&y call rabbit, rory is owl, piglet is ... uhhh ... piglet is actually echidne. who does that leave?


GravatarIt's the second of the month. Theoretically, all of the trolls' govt. checks should have arrived and they all should be safely back on their meds.


GravatarBush was even aware of the incident, instead webb went ballistic on him and threatened to kill him in the oval office.
dally



Ah, life in bizarro world.


Gravatar I don't know about roaming ISPs or whatever to have different posting names.

Me neither. And I am kind of tech savvy.

Or, maybe not, since I use a Mac.


GravatarI tried it with pig

In a spit?


Gravataruhhh ... piglet is actually echidne

What an honor!

oink/rohroh


GravatarBecuase to me, Olaf, it sounds like an excuse for bad behavior. I don't think that is what you intend.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:38 am | #
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it's exactly what i intend. i'm willing to cut people some slack and i expect some slack cut for me when it's appropriate. the alternative is for everyone to be perfect all the time.


GravatarPreston Brooks attacked Sumner over a 4 hour speech on the floor of the Senate.


Gravatarall I know about his problems is what he posts here

OK, y'all are bored, drinking and want to get me into a flame war. Really pathetic, but I'm curious, exactly, what "problems" do I actually have.

I'm going to the diner for more ice for my iced tea. Be right back...


GravatarI can't come to terms
...with worms.


Gravatari just have always seen incog as the eyeore of this particular hundred acre wood. it wouldn't be a proper hundred acre wood without him.

I agree.

Well, I dunno about the Eyeore part, but I've always liked him.


GravatarThe other Brutus (the ancestor, not the one who killed Caesar) was an honorable man: he loved Roman representative democracy to the point of killing his own son when he threatened it. Can you imagine anyone in the American elite doing so? GHWB daring to criticize Commander Cuckoobananas is about as close as you'd see.


GravatarSo which character am I?


GravatarNo dissing Eeyore!

That's Monsieur's mascot!


GravatarDr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, perhaps?


GravatarThe Mosque at the end of my street has a side building where the women pray.


Gravataruhhh ... piglet is actually echidne

What an honor!


Trespassers William!


Gravatar4Legs--was there a centaur in the Hundred Acre Woods?


Gravatardude. simels is christopher robin, chidyke is kanga, eli is roo, k&y call rabbit, rory is owl, piglet is ... uhhh ... piglet is actually echidne. who does that leave?
Mr Computer

watertiger for tigger.


GravatarSounds cool to me, Olaf. Thanks for clarifying it. The only thing is if the person in question uses the excuse to much knowing that they are behaving badly.


GravatarAnybody insults me, I insult back. It's really not that hard a concept to understand. Ô¿Ô

You're not the only one who takes that tack. How's that been working for everyone?


GravatarOK, y'all are bored, drinking and want to get me into a flame war. Really pathetic, but I'm curious, exactly, what "problems" do I actually have.

I'm bored, alright, but not in the way that you think.


GravatarMan, can they pick 'em!


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/1...006/ 113006.html


GravatarI hate all you hetero pukes

Even me? I hardly ever puke, unless I'm too close to a rethug.


GravatarI think we should all hug, and start over fresh.


GravatarSo which character am I?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:42 am |

MR COMPUTER HAS INFALLIBLY DETERMINED THAT YOU ARE ALREADY A REFERENCE TO TWO BOOKS (three if you count metarefs in LXG II) AND A SONG.


Gravatar4Legs--was there a centaur in the Hundred Acre Woods?

I don't think so.


GravatarBut she didn't insult you. She called you a racist, which you've given her ample reason to do over the years.

Don't worry about it, Phila. I'm supposed to be insulted by being called a dyke? I'm not insulted, but it reminds of the reasons why being a young female who has questions about her sexuality is so often depressing.


GravatarSounds cool to me, Olaf. Thanks for clarifying it. The only thing is if the person in question uses the excuse to much knowing that they are behaving badly.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:43 am | #
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well, that would make him an asshole. if you're an asshole all bets are off.


Gravatar4Legs--then it was a sad and sorry place if there was no centaur, and especially if there was no Mr. Plushy.


GravatarLee Corso's eyes are really freaking close together. Almost as bad as Hannity.
Marchbleed


And just as beady.


GravatarNew Curly that's every bit as interesting as the last one...!

Sallyh: Just got back from enjoying some Mongolian Barbecue.

And tonight, in your honor, I tried it with pig. It was very nice


I know what a Mongolian is, and I know what barbecue is... not sure about the combo...!

Mmmmmm... that magical animal, the pig.
.


GravatarI'm supposed to be insulted by being called a dyke? I'm not insulted, but it reminds of the reasons why being a young female who has questions about her sexuality is so often depressing.
masculine_monica_nyc | 12.03.06 - 12:45 am | #


No kidding.


GravatarFetal Alcohol Syndrome.


GravatarKING KONG HAS THE GREAT APE AND HIS GIRL DANCING ON ICE IN CENTRAL PARK DURING CHRISTMAS TIME.


GravatarBo sweetie--care for a nice vodka tonic?

(Shoots one up the 5 in Bo's direction).

Also, not to be a diet saboteur, but would you like some Christmas cookies/English toffee/Christmas breads?


GravatarIf you vouch for glassesguy, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Not that I know who Jack is anyway, I jsut hate Richard.


GravatarIf you vouch for glassesguy, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Not that I know who Jack is anyway, I jsut hate Richard.


GravatarTHIS GIRL REALLY LOVES THE APE.


Gravatargilbert | 12.03.06 - 12:47 am | #

Stop shouting, motherfucker.


GravatarNO ONE EVER MADE HER HAPPIER THAN THIS APE.


GravatarJeffraham--you go up to a buffet type bar and make your meal in a bowl out of whatever meats and veggies you desire, add oil and seasonings to taste, hand it to a guy behind the window, and he cooks it on this flat grill. A few minutes later, you get to enjoy this with rice and pocket biscuits.

It's tres delicious!


GravatarDon't worry about it, Phila. I'm supposed to be insulted by being called a dyke? I'm not insulted, but it reminds of the reasons why being a young female who has questions about her sexuality is so often depressing.
masculine_monica_nyc |


also bears witness to the whole farce that incog plays about being the white knight for oppressed gay people.

attention whore is about it.


GravatarFeeling thoroughly fizziled. Enough

Good Night, ye Bats and Battesses.

Ear skritches for the kitties, esp. Maxx.


And Good Night, Mrs. Calabash wherever you are.


GravatarYou know what, China ain't never givin back that god damned plane.


GravatarFetal Alcohol Syndrome.

Are we talking about Chimpy?


Gravatar"glassesguy" is not for everybody. i think he's ok. i also think he has been getting namestolen a lot recently.


GravatarThis conversation about dykes, it's funny, because they are such kind,learned and giving creatures with a major inferiority complex.
I'd like to be the first guy to compliment all dykes and their dykey ways. Good show ladies.


GravatarAm I misremembering about Achilles? I thought when Agammemnon took widowed war trophy Briseis from him, he sulked in his tent with boyfriend Patroclus.

Patroclus eventually went to fight on Achilles' behalf, was killed by Hector. Enraged Achilles, with no girlfriend or boyfriend, stormed out and slew Hector.


Gravatarhe cooks it on this flat grill.

With long sticks usually.


GravatarDykes fucking rock. All the advantages of guys minus most of the disadvantages.


GravatarI'm outta here.

G'night, 'bats.



Fuck off, trolls.


Gravatar"glassesguy" is not for everybody. i think he's ok. i also think he has been getting namestolen a lot recently.
Olaf glad and big |


Nah. That's its cover story, but it's not being namestolen.


GravatarJeffraham--he's way too cute!

My brother in law, who is Cajun, says in Louisiana they use every part of the pig but the oink.


GravatarSallyh: Jeffraham--you go up to a buffet type bar and make your meal in a bowl out of whatever meats and veggies you desire, add oil and seasonings to taste, hand it to a guy behind the window, and he cooks it on this flat grill. A few minutes later, you get to enjoy this with rice and pocket biscuits.

It's tres delicious!


It sounds pretty danged good, anyways!

Oddly, I'm not hungry, at all. I had that b&g meal around, what? 12:30? That was 11 hours ago!
.


GravatarI used the dyke reference because you couldn't ever possibly accuse me of homophobia. I'll think of something else for you the next time you insult me, though.


GravatarDykes fucking rock. All the advantages of guys minus most of the disadvantages.
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 12:50 am | #


Why the singular nym?


GravatarTom, I didn't realize you have a creepy side to your nature. Interesting...


GravatarHoly fuck I'm hammered.


GravatarWhy the singular nym?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:52 am |

Somebody else introduced the concept of a "Mr Computer" by saying that tha entity would be needed in determining which football (?) team would win something.


GravatarSteveNS--does this mean I get to take advantage of you?


GravatarHoly fuck I'm hammered.

Does everything around you look nailed?


GravatarChristmas party + wine + sambucha + tequila = yikes


GravatarDykes fucking rock. All the advantages of guys minus most of the disadvantages.
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 12:50 am | #
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i think hetero babes are hot.


GravatarSomebody else introduced the concept of a "Mr Computer" by saying that tha entity would be needed in determining which football (?) team would win something.
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 12:53 am | #


I meant in the larger sense.


GravatarLadies, do with me as you wish


GravatarSteveNS--here's my hotel room key.


GravatarÔ¿Ô,

Please, just please don't indict us of conducting systematic homosexual genocide on this thread.

Just, please.


GravatarI'm still waiting on my list of "problems."


GravatarSallyh, i would be honoured


GravatarChristmas party + wine + sambucha + tequila = yikes
SteveNS | 12.03.06 - 12:53 am | #

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you'll be fine. just check yourself into a nursing home for a week or so.


GravatarI'm still waiting on my list of "problems."
Ô¿Ô | 12.03.06 - 12:55 am | #


Writer's block, eh?


GravatarI meant in the larger sense.
Phila, The Small and Meek | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:54 am |

syntax error.


GravatarSteveNS--it's sort of fun taking advantage of drunk guys


GravatarAll right, everyone pay attention to me now. I am very interesting.


GravatarFuck the nursing home i'm a bloody
mess


GravatarFountains of Wayne strikes me as one of those bands that's pretty decent at songwriting and sound OK, but not quite worth sinking disposable income into. Plus they're a little too snarky (Welcome Interstate Managers) by about a third.


Gravatarwhat did you do with your door, incog?


GravatarAll right, everyone pay attention to me now. I am very interesting.

All eyes and ears...


GravatarWriter's block, eh?
Phila


You wrote I had "problems." If so, list them exactly. I'm curious.


GravatarRussian president Vladimir Putin has expressed his anger at Britain's failure to gag Alexander Litvinenko in the final hours of his life, the cabinet has been told.

The better to keep him from vomitting up the poison?


Gravatarit's sort of fun taking advantage of drunk guys


Sweeeeeeet


GravatarThe trolls have what they want at Eschaton -- people talk to them or about them. I'm even feeding them by saying this.


GravatarSteveNS--funny, you look tasty to me.

Tomorrow morning, you'll be a mess


GravatarAll right, everyone pay attention to me now. I am very interesting.
Thers | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:56 am | #

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wow. look at that gentleman over there with the 40dd bosom.


GravatarThers--how are your 237 children this evening?


Gravatarsyntax error.
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 12:55 am | #


Not undefined behavior?


GravatarI've got it upstairs in the attack lying flat on some plywood so it doesn't warp. I still haven't decided what I'll do with it, yet.


GravatarFOW struck us as all concept no band.


Gravatarwow. look at that gentleman over there with the 40dd bosom.

Olaf--it's the constant breastfeeding.


GravatarPersonal--ignore if you want. Damn my broken shoulder hurts. I can't do anything: sling, pills, therapeutic exercises, lying down in funny positions. Literally a pain


GravatarAll right, everyone pay attention to me now. I am very interesting.

We're waiting.


GravatarFountains of Wayne strikes me as one of those bands that's pretty decent at songwriting and sound OK, but not quite worth sinking disposable income into. Plus they're a little too snarky (Welcome Interstate Managers) by about a third.
Marchbleed


Fountans of Wayne fucking RULE

There arent many i'd put ahead of them, songriting-wise


GravatarDo you think Atrios is referring to this thread by his choice of a song beginning "Welcome to my nightmare?"


GravatarAll eyes and ears...
Echidne of the snakes |


Should have seen the local cooking show episode where the secret ingredient was pig's ears.


GravatarFountains of Wayne strikes me as one of those bands that's pretty decent at songwriting and sound OK, but not quite worth sinking disposable income into.

I'm told they're quite good live.


GravatarAll right, everyone pay attention to me now. I am very interesting.

Your font is quite fetching, in a soupy hetero puke way.


GravatarEchidne--I have left an offering of chocolate spritz and chocolate drenched English toffee at the altar. May you find the offering satisfactory.


GravatarGod bless you Sallyh

Do with me as you will!


GravatarDec 2 1997

David Afuta, the hairdresser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is found dead with two bullets in his chest at in his apartment after a murder/suicide. The other victim, Anat Elimelech, had one bullet in her. It is not clear which person pulled the trigger. The incident sends the Israeli media into a tizzy.

(Notice: if you've ever seen the hair of the Israeli Newt Gingrich, you might express surprise that he bothers to retain an actual hairdresser, or that anyone is willing to accept such responsibility.)


GravatarMy previous comment was to Olaf. ha ha He was probably verifying I was Incog..


GravatarRussian president Vladimir Putin has expressed his anger at Britain's failure to gag Alexander Litvinenko in the final hours of his life, the cabinet has been told.

I wonder how many other people Pooty-poot has had murdered the past few years?


GravatarShould have seen the local cooking show episode where the secret ingredient was pig's ears.
Tom - 大肚腩 |


Given that I was just honored by the role of piglet I'm not sure if I would have enjoyed that....


GravatarAll right, everyone pay attention to me now. I am very interesting.

We're waiting.


All you need do is ponder my essence. It's quite... ineffable.


GravatarIf it's ok with you folks, im going to hang here till i start to sober up...


GravatarSteveNS--just don't pass out on top of me, okay?


GravatarOops: attack = attic


GravatarShould have seen the local cooking show episode where the secret ingredient was pig's ears.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 12:59 am | #
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at lexington market in baltimore, you can still buy a smoked pig's face if you like that sort of thing.


GravatarAll you need do is ponder my essence. It's quite... ineffable.

Stop flirting with us!


GravatarFountains of Wayne strikes me as one of those bands that's pretty decent at songwriting and sound OK, but not quite worth sinking disposable income into.

That's a backhanded compliment, if I ever heard one.

In other words, they suck, when it comes to the big leagues.


GravatarGah, what a wonderful piece of wood it is...


GravatarSteveNS--why are you bothering to sober up? The Democrats aren't sworn in yet.


GravatarShould only take an hour or 12


Gravatar
Do you think Atrios is referring to this thread by his choice of a song beginning "Welcome to my nightmare?"


You know, I didn't even realize he'd put up another youtube video until at least half an hour into the thread.


GravatarAll you need do is ponder my essence. It's quite... ineffable.

Ef you.


GravatarMy previous comment was to Olaf. ha ha He was probably verifying I was Incog..
Ô¿Ô | 12.03.06 - 1:00 am | #
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i thought it was you. never hurts to make sure though.


GravatarYou wrote I had "problems." If so, list them exactly. I'm curious.
Ô¿Ô | 12.03.06 - 12:57 am | #


Well, the main one - as evidenced by your question - is being an attention-starved drama queen.

Other than that, I really don't know or care anything about your problems. People often discuss them here, ad nauseum, as reasons to pity you or ignore you, and that's what I was referring to. You want more answers, send out a questionnaire.


GravatarAll you need do is ponder my essence. It's quite... ineffable. Thers

I have heard you are totally effable.


GravatarGah, what a wonderful piece of wood it is...

What are you going to do with it?


Gravatarjust don't pass out on top of me, okay?
Sallyh,


Picky, picky


GravatarThe Fog about to start on Scifi. My son in law plays Adrienne Barboob's little kid.


GravatarAll you need do is ponder my essence. It's quite... ineffable.

I've often pondered that the essence of Thers requires the braiding of sand and the folding of liquid.


Gravatar"Welcome to My Nightmare" whch is, of course, by a white person...


GravatarI am not answering any questionaire.


GravatarAll you need do is ponder my essence. It's quite... ineffable.
Thers | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:00 am | #
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molly ivors seems to think it's pretty effable.


GravatarSallyh, bless you. How is the little Madison?


GravatarIn other words, they suck, when it comes to the big leagues.
Max Planck


Bullshit

Find me a better pop song than "Troubled Times".


GravatarThe Fog about to start on Scifi. My son in law plays Adrienne Barboob's little kid.

Really? is the movie worth watching?


GravatarEchidne--beyond cute. Crawling, babbling, sitting up. And when I say crawling, I mean traveling at just below warp speed.


GravatarYou wrote I had "problems." If so, list them exactly. I'm curious.
Ô¿Ô




GravatarYou wrote I had "problems." If so, list them exactly. I'm curious.
Ô¿Ô




GravatarHow Christmas-y
BBC | Submitted by: kureclaus
"Emergency crews were amazed when a man dressed as Santa, towing a nativity scene on a trailer, ignored the closure and his plastic donkey touched a cable."


GravatarMy son in law plays Adrienne Barboob's little kid.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


No kidding? I've actually seen that.

How are you and the family unit?


GravatarA great thinker once thought up a word, it was "Homobungholiophobe" Men and women alike agreed, it's bad to be plowed in the heiny within moderation.
I could only counter by saying, "Heinycopulatophobe". Men and women alike agreed that heinys and clits are stinky germy places that should be plowed in moderation.
The desire to mine heinies is as great as they will to suck clit. This is the Ojo equation.

Nasty.


Gravatar
Your font is quite fetching, in a soupy hetero puke way.


Yes, yes, true... it is my inner... intrinsic, me-ness that exerts such palpable interestingness. Also, I believe in UFOs and have more neuroses than a good bagel store has cream cheese spreads.


GravatarGiven that I was just honored by the role of piglet I'm not sure if I would have enjoyed that....
Echidne of the snakes |


Every Chinese banquet starts out with a roast baby pig. and I shouldn't point you to my tribute to Thers with images of multitudes of fine roasted/BBQ pig products (and one of the world's finest living cinematographers).


GravatarSteveNS--tell you what. You pass out on top of me, I'll roll you on your side. That way, if you...

Oh, never mind.


GravatarCentral--wonderful to see you!

The family unit is well. And how is Trout, the Bestest Dog Ever(TM)?


GravatarBRILLIANT!
Canadian Broadcasting | Submitted by: Mikeisgreen
"A secretive U.S. air force facility in Colorado Springs, Colo., tested a radio frequency this past week that it would use to communicate with first responders in the event of a homeland security threat. But the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."


GravatarThe Fog about to start on Scifi. My son in law plays Adrienne Barboob's little kid.

Really? is the movie worth watching?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse |


ohhhhh, I saw that first run at a drive in waaaaaay back.


GravatarSteveNS--tell you what. You pass out on top of me, I'll roll you on your side. That way, if you...

Oh, never mind.
Sallyh


You are far too kind to me.

But -- I never puke. Even after a mess of shooters.

It's the MacNeil in me.


GravatarGiven that I was just honored by the role of piglet I'm not sure if I would have enjoyed that....
Echidne of the snake

Quiet yet throroughly dignified.


GravatarThat's my SIL at age 9, sitting up front in the brown jacket.


GravatarMax: I didn't really mean it as a compliment, or as a knock. I guess I meant that if a friend had FoW disks I'd borrow them, rip them into my Itunes, and maybe play the songs once in a while. Which is actually more than I can say about most bands out there right now, so maybe it is a compliment.


GravatarGod, can I see the resemblance between SIL and my granddaughter.


Gravatar"He was naked, on crack and in the alligator's mouth"
Seattle Times | Submitted by: voluptua thunderpussy
"Hey. What's up? What do you need?" Mayid hollered.
"A gator's got me," Apgar replied, his voice faint in the background.

This is actually the basis for the internet proverb, "to be naked, on heroin and in the alligator's mouth."


GravatarAnd how is Trout, the Bestest Dog Ever(TM)?
Sallyh


He's this good, at least.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/dVD64BpG.jpg

He really is The Best.


GravatarFind me a better pop song than "Troubled Times".
SteveNS


You're forcing me to drastically downsize my definition of "Big Leagues".


GravatarThere's a sof-core porno on channel 76 (the French channel) and yet i'm here.

Whats wron with me?


Gravatar"A secretive U.S. air force facility in Colorado Springs, Colo., tested a radio frequency this past week that it would use to communicate with first responders in the event of a homeland security threat. But the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."

There's something so human about this.


GravatarSteveNS--you've got porn here in the room?


GravatarIneffability is so ephemeral; almost transient, really.


GravatarBRILLIANT!
Canadian Broadcasting | Submitted by: Mikeisgreen
"A secretive U.S. air force facility in Colorado Springs, Colo., tested a radio frequency this past week that it would use to communicate with first responders in the event of a homeland security threat. But the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 1:06 am | #
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we really are not getting our money's worth with all this defense/ "homeland security" spending.


GravatarBe happy for the "bum."
.


GravatarYes, yes, true... it is my inner... intrinsic, me-ness that exerts such palpable interestingness. Also, I believe in UFOs and have more neuroses than a good bagel store has cream cheese spreads.
Thers | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:05 am | #


What I admire is your dedication to the irreducible ipseity of your own immutable beingness. That, and the stuff about the Zeta Reticulans.


GravatarWell, the main one - as evidenced by your question - is being an attention-starved drama queen.

Good grief, I just asked you to elaborate and now I'm a drama queen? You can't really explain any "problems" I have. I do get into huge flame wars but not to get attention. Think about the last flare-up. I found a term offensive and carefully explained why. Then these people got personal with their insults and I responded back. That's all it amounts to. Get it?


GravatarNow that Adrienne Barbeau had some big breasts.


GravatarCentral--he's such a great dog, and so pretty.

Too cold to fish right now?


GravatarYou're forcing me to drastically downsize my definition of "Big Leagues".
Max Planck


Hey, just cuz it's not going to save the world doesn't mean it's not genius/


GravatarMarchbleed | 12.03.06 - 12:56 am |

I think Fountains of Wayne are funny indeed, with an ace catchy pop sound of different genres.

Snarky? I hear them sympathetic to their characters, the deluded lovelorn males of Stacy's Mom or Hackensack, the doomed young exec of Bright Future in Sales, the art victim girl and the guy smitten with her in Hailey's Waitress.

They're too sweet-tempered to snark with malice


GravatarPeople are so used to be partisan, they take any dissagreement and make it personal. And others are afraid to voice their opinions because they'll be attacked for it. That's not healthy for this community.


GravatarJeffraham--that totally rocks!

BTW, can I trouble you for another copy of the CurlyVision DVD? Maddy would love it.


GravatarToo cold to fish right now?
Sallyh


Indeed.

It's around 18 right now.

Brrrrrr.....


GravatarSteveNS--you've got porn here in the room?
Sallyh



Mais oui!


GravatarGood grief, I just asked you to elaborate and now I'm a drama queen?

No, asking me to elaborate was either cynical or deluded. You're a drama queen because you're a drama queen.


GravatarFrom Nur al-Cubicle:

Q. We now see that the big winner in the invasion of Iraq is Iran. How do the Arab states, especially in Saudi Arabia, feel about the creation of a Shi’ite Islamic regime in Iraq? Are they arming the Sunnis who are attacking the Shi’a?

A. Evidently the Saudis, the Jordanians and a few Sunni families of the Gulf petromonarchies are worried by what is going on in Iraq. The idea of seeing what King Abdallah II of Jordan calls a “Shi’ite crescent” forming in the region worries everyone, particularly all the Sunni regimes. Because all these countries have within their borders more or less significant Shi’a minorities with issues. If you take a look at a map of the Gulf today, you will notice that the petroleum reserves in Saudi Arabia and in all the neighboring oil producing countries have Shi’a minorities. Are Arab nations arming or financing the Sunni insurrection in Iraq? No one knows the answer to that question. There countries insist that they do not. But at the same time, all the Sunni autocrats in the region, beginning with Saudi Arabia, let it clearly be known that should the civil war worsen, they will not stand by.

But what can Saudi Arabia do, given the state of its military?


GravatarMr Computer, that was my remote controlled helicopter, tell the "50,000,000" garage doors that I'm sorry.


GravatarSongcraft is what's gone away.

Song money is flowing greatly. Songcraft is scarce.


GravatarThey're too sweet-tempered to snark with malice

Unrelated, but I finally wrote a nasty and vile post, after holding my tongue for three years. And that one is the one that is being linked to, of course.


GravatarI don't know what ipseity is.


GravatarCentral--let me guess: he spends a lot of time hanging out by your feet instead of swimming and running around like a maniac.


GravatarI don't know what ipseity is.
SteveNS | 12.03.06 - 1:13 am | #

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it's just one of those mysterious things.


GravatarIt's around 18 right now.

Brrrrrr.....


Is 68 degrees a good house temperature? I'm asking because my most recent overnight guest sat around in blankets.


GravatarSteveNS--you don't need to know.

Now, are you going to get busy or what?


GravatarSong money is flowing greatly. Songcraft is scarce.
Max Planck


Neil Finn is the greatest songsmith of the past 30 years.

Just sayin'.


GravatarJeez. The fact that I've stuck around on two threads full of shitty performance art and associated self-obsessed bullshit should tell you all you need to know about the work I'm supposed to be doing tonight...


GravatarI don't know what ipseity is.

I'm partial to ipseity de facto my own self.


Gravataripseity=framosity.

the state in between being


GravatarIt's not in my nature to take things personally. Everything rolls off me like water on a duck's back. I would just as soon repond to a comment by someone who's attacked me personally on this blog as not half an hour later. I just don't care.


GravatarBut what can Saudi Arabia do, given the state of its military?
masculine_monica_nyc |


They can decide to cancel their big aircraft purchase from BAE unless the Office of Significant Fraud cancels their investigations in to British slush funds for Saudi royalty.


GravatarFuck yes i'm gettin busy!


I'll regret it tomorrow but what the fuck


GravatarPhila--that boring, eh?


GravatarNude horse love woman charged
metro.co.uk | Submitted by: Sandy71
"An Australian woman is facing charges after police say they caught her naked, in a paddock, committing lewd acts with a horse."


GravatarSallyh,

He still runs around like a maniac, just a bit more confined.

The cats keep him occupied most of the time.


GravatarSweet Georgia Brown is a great song.


GravatarFirst they start on bingo, then pot, then they're kissing Lenin busts in men's clothing
ABC News | Submitted by: Sinthyia
"A grandmother found with a trunkful of marijuana was convicted of drug running in what prosecutors said was an attempt to earn cash for a bingo habit." ... "Villareal faces three to 12 years in state prison when she is sentenced Dec. 18."


GravatarJeez. The fact that I've stuck around on two threads full of shitty performance art and associated self-obsessed bullshit should tell you all you need to know about the work I'm supposed to be doing tonight...
Phila, The Small and Meek | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:14 am | #

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just a shot in the dark, but i'm thinking maybe you don't want to do it.


GravatarEchidne--it's what the gas companies recommend.

I, of course, am freezing below 72.


GravatarSaudis learnig from Bushco.


GravatarCentral--does he consider them chew toys?


GravatarSallyh: BTW, can I trouble you for another copy of the CurlyVision DVD? Maddy would love it.

Of course! If you can wait until Wachovia lets me use my mo-nay, of course... shouldn't be much longer. I spent almost all of the $23+change I had on the domain name registrations, tonight...

Better than lottery tix, methinks.
.


GravatarEchidne of the snakes | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:13 am | #

I'm puzzled, Echidne. Are you hinting we should read this scandalous post, or avoid it? Your offer of vile nastiness is tempting


GravatarJeez. The fact that I've stuck around on two threads full of shitty performance art and associated self-obsessed bullshit should tell you all you need to know about the work I'm supposed to be doing tonight...
Phila


Aww c'mon, you know you love it...


GravatarThe fact that I've stuck around on two threads full of shitty performance art and associated self-obsessed bullshit should tell you all you need to know about the work I'm supposed to be doing tonight...
Phila


Shoulda come to our party!


Gravatar66f is good for sleeping


GravatarTowards this end, I've registered 37209.biz and 37209online.com this evening... coming soon, to a browser in West Gnashvegas...

Good idea, JP, and good luck.


GravatarIt's not in my nature to take things personally. I just don't care.
Ô¿Ô



this just in - breaking news! water found to be not wet... developing.


GravatarPhila--that boring, eh?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.03.06 - 1:16 am | #


Yeah, it's pretty excruciating. Although Eschaton is definitely giving it a run for its money.

On the other hand, I earn money for the other stuff, so I guess it's actually a lot worse...


GravatarSaturday night's alright for fighting.


GravatarEchidne can do nasty with style. Anyone who read her guestblogging at the Rude Pundit this past summer knows


GravatarChristmas arty sucked last year, but thhere was a lot more hard liquor at this one@


GravatarBut some people hold a grudge and take it way personally. Like right now, I can feel knives and things sticking outta me.


GravatarOrange-balled porno-eatin' goats
Wire Services | Submitted by: OrneryToad
"A man broke into a barn on Thanksgiving morning, spray-painted three pet goats and scattered pages of pornographic magazines on the floor, apparently to harass the property owner, police said Tuesday." ... "[The Journal News] reported on its Web site that a veterinarian said the goats became sick after eating the magazine pages. The [vet] also said the orange paint was on their genitals and described the act as torture."


Gravatar I think Fountains of Wayne are funny indeed, with an ace catchy pop sound of different genres.

Snarky? I hear them sympathetic to their characters, [...]

They're too sweet-tempered to snark with malice
Draco, A+ blood


I agree. I meant the snarkiness in their band name and that one album title i.e. poking fun a local campy stuff somewhere.

As to Troubled Times, nice song. But has no edge. The Connells did this type of stuff with much more feeling about 20 years ago.


Gravatarjust a shot in the dark, but i'm thinking maybe you don't want to do it.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:17 am | #


Where should I send your cigar?


GravatarI'm puzzled, Echidne. Are you hinting we should read this scandalous post, or avoid it? Your offer of vile nastiness is tempting

Neither really.

It was more of a comment on the dialogue about the need for greater civility and respect in politics. Though given what "civil" wars are like, I'm not certain what people mean by civility anymore.


GravatarNude horse love woman charged
metro.co.uk | Submitted by: Sandy71
"An Australian woman is facing charges after police say they caught her naked, in a paddock, committing lewd acts with a horse."
Mr Computer


Cool! Film at 11, I hope!

Oh....wait....this isn't LGF, is it?

Sorry.


GravatarFrank Rich comes back from vacation with the question, "Has (Bush) Started Talking to the Walls, Yet?"
Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:20 am | #


Gravatarfunny story. i was recently in glemwood springs, colorado. there is a brewpub there and among their offerings is a mead, which i tried. it was very sweet and tasted like flowers. my companion tasted it. i explained to her that it was the traditional drink of viking marauders. she was very skeptical about that.


GravatarEchidne gfuestbloged at Rude Pundit????

We are not worthy!


GravatarSteveNS--no, you're not, but fortunately, I've taken pity on you tonight

(Kidding)


GravatarBut should you wish to read my vile-and-disgusting post, here it is.



GravatarUnrelated, but I finally wrote a nasty and vile post, after holding my tongue for three years. And that one is the one that is being linked to, of course.

Limbaugh deserved everything you gave him, and more:

LIMBAUGH: My cat -- here's how you can get fooled. My cat comes to me when she wants to be fed. I have learned this. I accept it for what it is. Many people in my position would think my cat's coming to me because she loves me. Well, she likes me, and she is attached, but she comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life. But we put voices in their mouths.


GravatarAs to Troubled Times, nice song. But has no edge. The Connells did this type of stuff with much more feeling about 20 years ago.
Marchbleed


I say thee, "Bologna."


GravatarCivility is getting shat on by overt Rethug racists. When a mud person looks at Glenn Beck the wrong way, that's the crisis of incivility.


Gravatarfunny story. i was recently in glemwood springs, colorado

Glenwood Springs? Headed to Vail?


GravatarCentral--does he consider them chew toys?
Sallyh


Of course, and it's mutual.

80% of my house is around 40 degrees. I refuse to heat space I use infrequently.


GravatarRich:

The bottom line: America has a commander in chief who can’t even identify some 97 percent to 98 percent of the combatants in a war that has gone on longer than our involvement in World War II.

It does sound odd, when you put it like that...


GravatarEchidne gfuestbloged at Rude Pundit????

Always the guest blogger, never the host...


GravatarSteveNS--no, you're not, but fortunately, I've taken pity on you tonight

(Kidding)
Sallyh


Sallyh, believe me when i say I do love you for your online persona;

If I only knew you for real...


GravatarStudent suspended for sharing teacher's outburst
Canada.com | Submitted by: Downloading food is a crime
"Quebec school officials are considering banning the use of cameras and cellphones in all classrooms after two students secretly recorded their teacher's angry outburst and posted three clips on YouTube."

This so totally sounds like everything that is wrong with school. Teacher fucks up, so acknowledging it makes you guilty of disrespect, which is worse. We also recall a physics teacher who would go off on tangents about how the Constitution was based on the Ten Commandments.


GravatarG'night. Hope you have better luck than I...


GravatarNow that Adrienne Barbeau had some big breasts.
JeffCO


I couldn't keep track of them all, but I think at least one of my '70's wet dreams involved Ms. Barbeau.


GravatarIs 68 degrees a good house temperature? I'm asking because my most recent overnight guest sat around in blankets.

Too cold for me.

I think about 72 degrees is good.


Gravatarfunny story. i was recently in glemwood springs, colorado

Glenwood Springs? Headed to Vail?
JeffCO | 12.03.06 - 1:23 am | #
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actually, glenwood springs was our final destination. we went to take the waters. we went by way of denver. that is the first time that i have ever been up in the very high rockies unless i was there when i was too young to remember. it's spectacular.


GravatarI think about 72 degrees is good.
fourlegsgood


Agreed, even if i can'taffoord to keep it above 65.


GravatarThere is no civility here.


GravatarDamn. It's 63 degrees in this room. No wonder I started thinking about the correct heating temperature. Must bleed the radiator.


GravatarMax P--a young Jamie Lee Curtis is in it as well.

I think John Carpenter has a thing for boobs. Just a wild guess, of course.


Gravatarit's spectacular. Olaf glad and big

You didn't call, you didn't write....


GravatarSteveNS--not much difference between the RL and online one.


GravatarBoy, those old sea ghosts aren't very nice, now are they?


GravatarBarbeau not safe for work


Gravatarit's spectacular. Olaf glad and big

You didn't call, you didn't write....
JeffCO | 12.03.06 - 1:28 am | #
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i was kind of busy. i will be in denver over new years. maybe we can meet up.


GravatarThey can decide to cancel their big aircraft purchase from BAE unless the Office of Significant Fraud cancels their investigations in to British slush funds for Saudi royalty.

Touché.

Q. Is there really an exodus of Iraqis towards neighboring states? Is there a risk of a humanitarian crisis?

A. The exodus is quite real. It is estimated that there are 800 thousand Iraqis in Syria, 500 or 600 thousand in Jordan and at least 100 thousand in the UAE. And we’re only speaking of those who are officially registered. The United Nations estimates that in 2004, more than 2 million Iraqis left the country in order to survive. The worst of it is that the refugees represent the country’s social, economic and political elite.

Who will be left to rebuild the institutions of civil society?


GravatarYou want some entertaining audio commentaries, pick up any DVD with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell. Those guys are hilarious.


GravatarBarbeau not safe for work
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 1:29 am | #


Got any pussy pix?


Gravatarwe’ve witnessed the troubling behavior of a president who isn’t merely in a state of denial but is completely untethered from reality. It’s not that he can’t handle the truth about Iraq. He doesn’t know what the truth is.

Bush has gone Michael Jackson on us. That can't bode well...


GravatarGot any pussy pix?
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cat blogging is on fridays. duh.


Gravatar i will be in denver over new years. maybe we can meet up. Olaf

Not sure yet where I'll be, but if I'm around, I'd be happy to. I'm rather fond of the brewpub started by the now mayor of Denver. Had a glass of mead there once in fact.


GravatarIs 68 degrees a good house temperature?

I don't have a thermostat in my apartment, but that sounds cozy to me.


Gravatarnot much difference between the RL and online one.
Sallyh,



Then it's official -- I love you!

Aside -- fuck you, annieangel. Eat shit and die.


GravatarBRILLIANT!
Canadian Broadcasting | Submitted by: Mikeisgreen
"A secretive U.S. air force facility in Colorado Springs, Colo., tested a radio frequency this past week that it would use to communicate with first responders in the event of a homeland security threat. But the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."
Mr Computer | 12.03.06 - 1:06 am | #


So 50 million of us will be informed of a homeland security threat and required to stay home?


GravatarThanks, y'all. I think I'm climbing out of the Black Hole... reaching escape velocity.
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GravatarBarbeau not safe for work

Umm, how could you tell it's her?


GravatarWhat's this? I fail to see atrios' name on the NYT list of bloggers that were paid by political campaigns to promote their candidacies!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/ima...n/ 03opchart.gif

i would say that atrios' absence is a Good Thing.


GravatarIs 68 degrees a good house temperature?

That's on the lower end of the comfortable scale (68-72).


GravatarThe opening sequence to Paranoia Agent is awesome. Music tighter than images, though.


GravatarNot sure yet where I'll be, but if I'm around, I'd be happy to. I'm rather fond of the brewpub started by the now mayor of Denver. Had a glass of mead there once in fact.
JeffCO | 12.03.06 - 1:33 am | #
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as much as i love new mexico, i think i may be spending time in colorado. i love the scenery and all that, yadayadayada. but more to the point there is an enchanting red haired lady in denver who doesn't seem to mind if i hang around with her.


GravatarUmm, how could you tell it's her?
JeffCO | 12.03.06 - 1:35 am |

Kein idee, but that was how the webmaster labelled that page. There are at least thirty Italians who could just as well have been depicted therein.


GravatarIs 68 degrees a good house temperature?

Very subjective topic. I like ~72. The wife? 70.

Hitchcock could have made a movie about it.


Gravatarwe’ve witnessed the troubling behavior of a president who isn’t merely in a state of denial but is completely untethered from reality. It’s not that he can’t handle the truth about Iraq. He doesn’t know what the truth is.

Bush has gone Michael Jackson on us. That can't bode well...
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Michael Jackson would probably have been a better president. Wouldn't have started any wars. Can you imagine how much time and effort the repukes would have put into investigating him?


GravatarIs 68 degrees a good house temperature?

we keep it 65 and that's just fine, except we tend to wear something to keep warm when sitting around


GravatarI think I'm climbing out of the Black Hole... reaching escape velocity.

I believe that is technically impossible.


GravatarNobody in these parts sets a thermostat above 68. It'd be insane.


GravatarSallyh - that punk in the brown jacket is the SIL?


GravatarThe Curly condo is currently at 72.3°F, and I'm still a li'l chilly, even in my sweats and slippers.
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GravatarCivility is getting shat on by overt Rethug racists. When a mud person looks at Glenn Beck the wrong way, that's the crisis of incivility.

Assholes like Beck know that the veneer of civility protects them from a proportionate response to their barely disguised hatred, which is a Louisville Slugger in the puss.


GravatarWhat's this? I fail to see atrios' name on the NYT list of bloggers that were paid by political campaigns to promote their candidacies!

That was depressing to look at.


GravatarI believe that is technically impossible.
JeffCO | 12.03.06 - 1:39 am |

You have to use some sort of deus ex machina, or perhaps a machina ex deus...


Gravataris it muppet night? lol

and glenn beck is an idiotic maniac.


GravatarJeffCO: I believe that is technically impossible.

30 days ago, I would have thought so, too.
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GravatarIt's telling how clueless annieangel is that after all this time she's been posting here, she still doesn't know what I'm refered as. Really lame.


Gravatar"A secretive U.S. air force facility in Colorado Springs, Colo., tested a radio frequency this past week that it would use to communicate with first responders in the event of a homeland security threat. But the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."

You know, I half suspect that this is a result of giving away part of the military's share of the electro-magnetic spectrum to the garage door manufacturers on the qt.


Gravataran enchanting red haired lady in denver who doesn't seem to mind if i hang around with her. Olaf

Ahh. That would explain the gladness and bigness.


Gravatari lived in new england in the 80's. back then nobody turned on the heat until after thanksgiving. even after thanksgiving it was like a contest to see who could go the longest before turning on the heat.


GravatarAssholes like Beck know that the veneer of civility protects them from a proportionate response to their barely disguised hatred, which is a Louisville Slugger in the puss.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 12.03.06 - 1:40 am |

This hour has 22 minutes: But wouldn't you say that all muslims are angry terorists? No, I wouldn't say that -- But would you say that? No, I wouldn't say that -- But wouldn't you just have to say that? NO -- Well, looks like they are.


Gravatari lived in new england in the 80's. back then nobody turned on the heat until after thanksgiving.

That is still true around here. I've been bleeding the radiators because this is the first day the heat came on.


Gravataran enchanting red haired lady in denver who doesn't seem to mind if i hang around with her. Olaf

Ooh redhead. Mmmm, and enchanting is definitely gravy.


GravatarOne could do worse in a film than casting Adrienne Barbeau, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Janet Leigh.


GravatarGod, can I see the resemblance between SIL and my granddaughter.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


This can happen.

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GravatarWhat would you like me to call you, glasses man?


GravatarAssholes like Beck know that the veneer of civility protects them from a proportionate response to their barely disguised hatred, which is a Louisville Slugger in the puss.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 12.03.06 - 1:40 am |


Beck has managed the difficult task of being more irritating than Hannity.


Gravatar
The Curly condo is currently at 72.3°F, and I'm still a li'l chilly, even in my sweats and slippers.


Interesting how different people perceive temperature. A secretary where I work is like you - she's freezing when it's "only" 72 degrees(she's got a little heater beside her desk). I'm wearing shorts and a t-shirt when it's 65 degrees outside.


GravatarHoly crap, we just realized what remedial here means by "glasses man."


GravatarOne could do worse in a film than casting Adrienne Barbeau, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Janet Leigh.
JeffCO


Hello!!! Of course, hello 1981. I mean Ms. Leigh is like 75 now.


Gravatar30 days ago, I would have thought so, too.

But then you saw the Impossible Planet episode of Dr. Who....

Now, if you had said you'd been stuck on the event horizon for 300 years before being rescued, *that* I could believe.


GravatarBoredom.
Ô¿Ô
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I think you need to suffer.


GravatarOne could do worse in a film than casting Adrienne Barbeau, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Janet Leigh.

One could be, say, Russ Meyer.


Gravatar mean Ms. Leigh is like 75 now.

And if she wanted to use your shower you'd say no?


GravatarOne could do worse in a film than casting Adrienne Barbeau, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Janet Leigh.
JeffCO
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or vivian leigh. why do you think "gone with the wind" was such a big hit? nobody cares about some crappy plantation in georgia.


GravatarI mean Ms. Leigh is like 75 now.

Actually, she died two years ago.


Gravatar Really lame. Ô¿Ô

Of course he knows - he's just jealous of the attention you've been getting.


GravatarActually, she died two years ago.
Richard


She was gorgeous, and she kicked ass in Psycho.


GravatarJeffCO: Now, if you had said you'd been stuck on the event horizon for 300 years before being rescued, *that* I could believe.

In my case, more like 3.5 years... but, yeah!
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GravatarI mean Ms. Leigh is like 75 now.

Actually, she died two years ago.


That settles it. She can't use the shower.


GravatarJeffCO--yes, he is. He's a little older now

I was watching his facial expressions--his daughter totally mirrors him


GravatarAssholes like Beck know that the veneer of civility protects them from a proportionate response to their barely disguised hatred, which is a Louisville Slugger in the puss.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
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At first, mouth agape, I thought you were referring to the great rock lyricist, Beck, but when I realized you were writing about the turd in the cnn cesspool, his image in my mind's eye made me consider how irrelevant and disposable he is.


GravatarGood insulation saves money on heat. You can't set your dial at 68, or wait till after thanksgiving to turn on the heat, if the house isn't properly insulated.


Gravatar
She was gorgeous, and she kicked ass in Psycho.
Max Planck


I agree. A major league babe in that film.


GravatarThat settles it. She can't use the shower.
____league |


Would you let her live in your attic then?


GravatarMost homes aren't properly insulated.


GravatarWhatever happened to Faye Ray?


GravatarThis is something the federal government could do, check to see that all homes are well insulated. It would save billions.


GravatarThat settles it. She can't use the shower. ____league

I would suggest that should she show up you do as she asks.


GravatarThousands of people die every year from improperly insulated homes.


GravatarWhatever happened to Faye Ray?
annieangel
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Fay died within the past two years.


GravatarMost homes aren't properly insulated.

Now see, Incog, how is this not you?


GravatarOlder homes used wallpaper and wood for insulation and solid wood construction for the walls. Natural gas was cheap and plentiful back then.


GravatarWould you let her live in your attic then?

Norman Bates: Oh, but she's harmless. She's as harmless as one of those stuffed birds.


GravatarI thought she went apeshit


GravatarI was watching his facial expressions--his daughter totally mirrors him Sallyh

You never mentioned he was a former child actor - no wonder he was trouble!


GravatarI read where Hitchcock had a crush on young Janet Leigh, much like he did with Grace Kelly fraom earlier films.

How awkward was that?


GravatarOlder homes used wallpaper and wood for insulation and solid wood construction for the walls. Natural gas was cheap and plentiful back then. Ô¿Ô

QED


GravatarOlder homes used wallpaper and wood for insulation and solid wood construction for the walls. Natural gas was cheap and plentiful back then.

He's always right, folx!
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GravatarBUSH RADIO ADDRESS, 'FAILURE IN IRAQ WOULD EMBOLDEN THE EXTREMIST, OUR NATION MUST NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.'
'WE NEED TO CREATE A FREE A DEMOCRATIC NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND CREATE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE REGION'
'A FAILED IRAQ WOULD BE A DANGER TO AMERICA'.


GravatarThat settles it. She can't use the shower.
____league |

Would you let her live in your attic then?
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 1:55 am | #


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I would suggest that should she show up you do as she asks.
JeffCO | 12.03.06 - 1:56 am | #


I guess I probably would. Don't need any more ghosts in the attic.


Gravatarha ha


GravatarFor Echidne & everybody: top classical music CD favorites of the Voltaire household:

Troubadours Trouveres Minstrels - Studio Der Fruhen Musik - Thomas Binkley (absolutely beautiful and not a bit stuffy)

Guillaume de Machaut - Le vray remede d'amour - Ensemble Gilles Binchois (14th century culture hero Machaut's harmonies are tripped out)

Gesualdo - Complete Sacred Music for Five Voices (The Mad Monk is good for driving while stoned at 3am)

JS Bach - The Art of Fugue - Fretwork

JS Bach - intavolatura - Rolf Lislevand - luth baroque

(Bach is God.)

Arvo Part - Stabat Mater - Studio de Musique Ancienne de Montreal (haunting)


GravatarDEMOCRATIC RADIO RESPONSE TO BUSH HAS THE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN JIM WALLIS, FOUNDER OF SOJOURNER MAGAZINE.
WALLIS SAYS THE WORD OF JESUS IS GOOD NEWS FOR THE POOR.


GravatarOlder homes used wallpaper and wood for insulation and solid wood construction for the walls.

Shit, I wish I lived in a home so well-built. The residential building codes since the 70's are so relaxed you wouldn't believe it.

My next house is going to have concrete walls.


GravatarImagine that you just had a heart attack.
You're dying.
As the light fades, elements of your life pass before your eyes.
Just before everything fades to black for the last time, you realize that you spent the last few minutes of your life enabling trolls.

Whoop-de-fuckin'-do, eh?


Gravatar
I read where Hitchcock had a crush on young Janet Leigh, much like he did with Grace Kelly fraom earlier films.

How awkward was that?
Max Planck


He had a real obsession for blondes. It proved to be a real problem for Tippi Hedren, who was in "the Birds" and "Marnie". He ultimately tried to destroy her career...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip...ki/ Tippi_Hedren

Although Hitchcock continued to have Hedren in mind for several other films after Marnie, the actress had become increasingly uncomfortable with his possessive manner and she flatly declined any further work with him. Other directors who wanted to hire her had to go through Hitchcock, who would inform them she was unavailable. "It grew to be impossible. He was a very controlling type of person, and I guess I'm not about to be controlled," said Hedren, who bought out her contract. Ending their professional relationship on a sour note, she recalled, "He said, 'Well, I'll ruin your career.' And he did."[5]


GravatarShorter notatroll: I'm very concerned.


GravatarI wish I lived in a home so well-built. The residential building codes since the 70's are so relaxed you wouldn't believe it.

My next house is going to have concrete walls.
Max Planck


I've worked construction in the Highland area, which are homes built in the 30s. They're amazing.


GravatarMaine is the best state.


GravatarBeck has managed the difficult task of being more irritating than Hannity.
____league | 12.03.06 - 1:46 am | #


is this actually possible?


GravatarShorter JeffCO:

I'm Incog's cocksucker.


GravatarNow why couldn't one of those beautiful women been generous and given hitchcock some love?


GravatarTacitus Voltaire, many thanks for the list. I really appreciate it.

Good night, bats. Sweet dreams.


GravatarTHE WORD OF JESUS IS GOOD NEWS FOR THE POOR

maybe they can eat it for lunch instead of dog food


GravatarYour concern has been noted.


GravatarAlfred Hitchcock deserved the reward of a beautiful woman.


GravatarDidn't Hitchcock collet fingers or something or is that an urban legend?


Gravatarread where Hitchcock had a crush on young Janet Leigh, much like he did with Grace Kelly fraom earlier films.

How awkward was that?
Max Planck
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Hitchcock was heavily infatuated with many of his female stars, but Janet Leigh was not one of them. The two had a cordial, professional relationship.
He exhibitted sadism toward, and suffered romantic humiliation with Tippy Hedrin.
He was deeply hurt by the rejection of Vera Miles, who he wanted to mold in his image of perfection.
He possessed a distant, unrequited love for both Ingrid Bergman and Grace Kelly, but his knowledge that this couldn't be realized nipped the obsession in the bud.
He played Pygmalion to Kim Novak in "Verigo," the film, but not in real life.


GravatarHe had a real obsession for blondes.

Of course, the blondes were dazzlingly beautiful women.


GravatarBeck has managed the difficult task of being more irritating than Hannity.
____league | 12.03.06 - 1:46 am | #

is this actually possible?
Tacitus Voltaire | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:07 am | #


Until I saw him, I would not have thought so.


GravatarNight, community of friends.


GravatarMy English friend spent the entire evening lecturing me on how I should simply retire from teaching because of the back. These are her arguments:

Teaching in pain each day and spending my off hours sleeping and taking drugs to do it again are hardly rational steps.

I just suffered from the second major infection that my body was unable to beat with extraordinary measures because I am constantly in pain.

Living a life dependent on drugs to enable one to work is stupid.

Anyone have a thought?


GravatarI saw Kim Novak in person a coupla years ago - still dazzlingly beautiful.


GravatarKim Novak.

Good God.


GravatarMaine is the best state.
Achilles the Psycho | 12.03.06 - 2:07 am | #

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i like maine a lot. my favorite state is new mexico, but maine is not far behind. nobody lives in maine. there are like 5 people who live in maine.


GravatarDWD: Anyone have a thought?

Do what makes you happy, realizing that what makes you happy is allowed to be changed over time.
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GravatarAnyone have a thought?
DWD


Her advice makes sense if it's not going to get better for you. Have you thought about what you might do if you retire?


GravatarLiving a life dependent on drugs to enable one to work is stupid.

Heart medication?
Insulin?
Anti-depressants?
Thyroxin?


GravatarThe story of my life, in song: my frontal lobe's a retread.
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GravatarAnyone have a thought?
DWD | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:13 am | #
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my 2 cents: retire. enjoy life. write.


GravatarAnyone have a thought?
DWD | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:13 am | #


I assume that you have already tried all the possible pain therapies?


GravatarMaine and New Hampshire and Vermont to me are breathtaking.


GravatarThey're putting up wireless here at work right now. They're working outside where the temp is in the mid 20s. It must have to be installed by this coming week.


GravatarIf at all possible, drugs should be the last option.


Gravatar
Anyone have a thought?
DWD


Well, when you describe your situation the way you just did, it sounds like your friend has a point. If retirement is an option that doesn't put you out on the street, then I'd probably do it if faced with what you've described.

Could you do a job that didn't require you to stand for much of the day?


GravatarOh, yeah: forgot. Nearly uncontrollable blood pressure since the accident. When I was at the hospital last night it was 226 over 129 when I checked in. . . .


Gravatarmaybe they can eat it for lunch instead of dog food
Tacitus Voltaire


Cat food Rulz!


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GravatarMaine and New Hampshire and Vermont to me are breathtaking.
Bobby St. Chomsky | 12.03.06 - 2:19 am | #
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maine and vermont are ok. new hampshire is very beautiful, but it is mostly populated by slack jawed fucking hillbillies. new hampshire is a very weird place. weirder than maine even, and maine is a really weird place.


GravatarI saw Shut Up and Sing Tonight? I could not believe the segment where they showed the talking heads on cable discussing their comments, and Bill O'Reilly, right there on a major news network says, "They're just stupid women who need to be slapped around."

How could I have never heard about that? How is it that in this century a man can say something like that and there is no reaction?

What a fucked up world the repugs have allowed to fester.


GravatarAnyone have a thought?
DWD


we desperately need to keep good teachers - maybe there is a way to teach lying down?

or some other way to teach without incurring pain?


Gravatari love maine though. in spite of the weirdness. or maybe because of it.


GravatarOlaf, I might just have some things left to say. (BWSEG)

I dunno, it is scary in a way. I think I should get about the same money working or not. The question is whether I want to take on the government to argue that I am infirm enough to qualify for disability. (something I do not relish)


GravatarOh, yeah: forgot. Nearly uncontrollable blood pressure since the accident. When I was at the hospital last night it was 226 over 129 when I checked in. . . .
DWD | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:21 am | #

You have two problems that should take precedence over everything else. That blood pressure can kill you or leave you totally disabled after a stroke.


Gravatarmaine has a friendly weirdness to it. the weirdness of new hampshire is hostile. that's just my take on it. vermont is very nice and therefore not nearly as interesting as the weird states which are adjascent to it. massachusetts is weirder than vermont.


GravatarWhat about developing an online course - you could teach via webcam. Talk to NTodd - he's set them up.


GravatarI dunno, it is scary in a way. I think I should get about the same money working or not. The question is whether I want to take on the government to argue that I am infirm enough to qualify for disability. (something I do not relish)
DWD | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:24 am | #


What do your doctors say?


GravatarThe question is whether I want to take on the government to argue that I am infirm enough to qualify for disability. (something I do not relish)
DWD | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:24 am | #


There are disability lawyers who can do a lot of that for you...probably worth the money.


GravatarHaving been a NYC professional/peacenick, the few times I spent away from the city were in the Catskills of NYS, the Green Mts of Vermont, the White Mts of New Hampshire, and the coast of Maine (Bar Harbor lobster, YUMMY). The memories are precious and evoke something beautiful and far away, and although I now reside on the side of a mountain, overlooking a river and work at a nearby jewel of a lake in Beautiful B.C., the East Coast has a rare beauty and mood all its own to me.


GravatarredheadinCA, "911 changed everything..."


Gravatardwd, you must be union. use the union lawyers to get your disability. you've earned it.


Gravatardwd, you must be union. use the union lawyers to get your disability. you've earned it.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:35 am | #


You may also be able to do private tutoring. My father was teaching a writing class for a while, and it was kind of a nightmare. But eventually, he was able to winnow it down to the three or four kids who were really interested/interesting, and work with them one on one.


GravatarDang. Windin' down in heah... on a Saturday. Y'all are gettin' old.
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GravatarOld, schmold - I'm just tired. Night all.


GravatarYet another Republican pedophile:

Larry Corrigan, a well-known activist in local Republican politics as a backer of U.S. Rep. Dave Reichert and King County Prosecuting Attorney Norm Maleng, was arrested Wednesday in an Internet sting for allegedly trying to arrange sex with a 13-year-old girl.


GravatarDang. Windin' down in heah... on a Saturday. Y'all are gettin' old.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:38 am | #

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who you callin old? cocksucker.


GravatarOlaf glad and big: who you callin old? cocksucker.

Fuck! Whatever you do don't say "gumbo!"

Aw, shit.
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GravatarThis Archos box that ::matthew sent me may just revive my interest in music, again... being able to randomly play my entire CD collection? Priceless.
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GravatarAnnieangel thinks of us as friends? I wonder how her enemies treat her.

Morning batties. Windy, rainy, cold again in London (it's December, so ...). Was gonna meet a riding buddy for a bike ride, but it's miserable and I don't have his phone number. Hope he checks email.


GravatarYou're obsessed with the "gumbo" thing. I was just joking then, too. Speaking of which, this cold weather has me hankering for some.


GravatarThis Archos box that ::matthew sent me may just revive my interest in music, again... being able to randomly play my entire CD collection? Priceless.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 2:42 am | #


I got a catalog in the mail that had a four-speed record player that converts to digital files. Kinda broke, or I'd pick it up. I've got a tub of 78s on my porch I've never gotten around to burning...


GravatarYou're obsessed with the "gumbo" thing.

Yeah, I'm a bum, too. But I'm not a current cocksucker.
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GravatarI've got a package of frozen shrimp in the freezer to make some but I just haven't felt like peeling them to make it.


Gravatari gotta go to sleep.it's almost 1 am here in new mexico.


Gravatarexcuse me, I'm all verklempt - talk amongst yourselves: the Holy Roman Empire - it was neither holy, roman, or an empire


Gravatar What about developing an online course - you could teach via webcam. Talk to NTodd - he's set them up.

Webcams! Online teaching at the college level means using the platform the college has adopted; I've used WebCT and LotusNotes and am given to know I'll soon have to learn Angel, whatever the hell that is.

Webcams not necessary. If NTodd is using them, well, he ought to be prevented from doing so, as that would be alarming for all concerned.


GravatarNor is America.


GravatarJeff, you don't hold a grudge, do you? I don't.


GravatarI'll soon have to learn Angel, whatever the hell that is.

Ask ShoeLimpy.


GravatarJeff, you don't hold a grudge, do you? I don't.

No. I just want you to do one of the following:

1.) Get help;
2.) Go the fuck away, forever.
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GravatarGoodnight, you cocksucking assbutts.


Gravatardo not attempt to adjust your television. we control the vertical. we control the horizontal.

night all!


GravatarJeff, just skip over my posts. I do yours if they're over a couple of lines.


GravatarFrom below and worth repeating:

Oh, Lee Hamilton, you are truly our nation's guiding light in this time of darkness! Lead us, Lee! Lead us to compromise and "the middle way" that accepts the continued senseless slaughter of so many human beings so we can enjoy our holiday of peace on earth and goodwill toward all humanity without moral qualms or the disturbance of our national conscience!
Rmj, Street Credentialed


GravatarJeff, just skip over my posts. I do yours if they're over a couple of lines.

No; I'll handle this on my terms, thanks.
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Gravatarjack, if you're still around: "Geese don't hiss."


GravatarBut they can be aggressive.


GravatarI believe that Rumsfeld memo was really sent to Bush two days before he resigned like I believe the Shroud of Turin really was the cloth that Jesus was entombed in.


GravatarNo; I'll handle this on my terms, thanks.

Don't you think that continuing a disturbance to satisfy your own ego on a blog that's not yours and drawing in others is selfish and wrong? I'm almost embarassed by the role I've played in the commotion but I stand by my opinions, plan to continue to voice them and I will respond to personal insults with same.


GravatarPeace, everybody. I don't mind it when we give a troll a good ass-whupping, but any other dischord worries me ...


GravatarMorning, cocksuckers!


GravatarBut they can be aggressive.
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jack wrote that geese hiss when he first started posting here and I said they didn't but that they do honk. Turns out jack was right. They both honk and hiss. That was back when he would respond back. Now he just sits there and blurts out things.


Gravatarbut any other dischord worries me ...
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Yeah, I've noticed that in others here and it bothers me but what else am I supposed to do? Hold my opinions in or not respond to a personal insult out of fear it will cause a commotion?


GravatarMost have found fun in the commotion by repeating the term but some want to carry on a childish grudge.


GravatarTom just strolled in and was calling me "it" all night. How childish is that? I couldn't care less about Tom or it all 15 minutes later.


GravatarThe C-word? I usually direct it toward somebody who I find offensive, not to somebody who, you know, sucks cocks.


GravatarThey were calling me the c-word but, oddly, it wasn't offensive to me but they thought it was.

It's funny we're now calling it the 'c-word' like it's the new n-word...


GravatarDon't you think that continuing a disturbance to satisfy your own ego on a blog that's not yours and drawing in others is selfish and wrong?

You tell me. It's as much "mine" as it is "yours," asshole. Your abuse of the goodwill of this community is going to stop -- and I have never been more fucking serious about anything in my life. I'm sick of it, and I will end it. You wanna try me? Keep up your bullshit.
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GravatarSo Bill O'Reilly thinks it's "fascism" for an employer to order an employee to do something (or conversely, not do something)--as in wishing customers a Merry Christmas? Assuming it were true--and it's not--nobody's forcing the employees who disagree with such a policy to work there. "Fascism" is when "Merry Christmas" is forbidden with the threat of death or imprisonment.

Geez, O'Reilly's dense.


GravatarAnd basically, the entire right-wing blowhard community is going to ride Keith Ellison until he's no longer in public office, eh? If he votes in favor of habeas corpus for terrorism suspects, they're going to accuse him of treason.


GravatarLook, I've made my point. People will be much more sensitive to its use now. I've moved on; no hard feelings, that's the way I look at it...


GravatarSome will continue to use the c-word but I don't care. Most wont.


GravatarI say, is there any news on the whole phallus munching imbroglio?


GravatarI say, is there any news on the whole phallus munching imbroglio?

Pip pip, cheerio, putzolds a cocksucker.
Fudgepacker, peterpuffer, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more...


Gravatarjames baker is a madman.


GravatarPip pip and cheerio are two expressions I haven't heard yet in this fair land, although I don't hang out with the fruffly-mouth crowd.


GravatarLook, I've made my point.

Who cares? I'll continue to make my point, which is that you're mainly here to stir up bad feelings, and lay guilt on people who would otherwise be your allies.

And, if need be, I'll follow up your every post with links to remind everyone of that fact.
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GravatarI have to stop by WalMart on my way home. Hope they have some new releases out that are worth watching. Last Sunday, An Inconvient Truth was out. Great movie and presentation by Gore. I almost want to weep that this country took such a wrong turn in 2000.


GravatarLook, I've made my point. People will be much more sensitive to its use now. I've moved on; no hard feelings, that's the way I look at it...
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It's moved on... BWAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA!

Didja hear that thigh slapper, Jeffraham? It's moved on! BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA! Like it promised? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

No wonder this creature has no social life, it's not dependable enough for another human being to trust.


Gravatar"Allies" who use the c-word to describe others like me are not my allies.


GravatarWho cares? I'll continue to make my point, which is that you're mainly here to stir up bad feelings, and lay guilt on people who would otherwise be your allies.
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Jeffraham, it doesn't want allies. Period. Understand? Just stir up bad feelings as it feeds on bad feelings, social pervert that it is.


GravatarPip pip and cheerio are two expressions I haven't heard yet in this fair land, although I don't hang out with the fruffly-mouth crowd.

All in good time, Mr. Werbenmanjensen, all in good time...


Gravatar"Allies" who use the c-word to describe others like me are not my allies.

Well, you go right on ahead and play whatever martyr you need to play, you little crybaby. Notice the reduced level of sympathy you're getting here? You're wearing out your welcome, if you hadn't noticed. But it can get worse, and kit will, if you keep up your bullshit.

It's your call.
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GravatarIt's your call.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |


Like it has control over its obsessions and compulsions. BWAHAHAAHAHA! It couldn't call it, if it wanted to.


GravatarIf Incog hates heterosexuals, why does he keep coming back here? Why doesn't he just stay at the gay websites where, so he claims, all is swell and everyone agrees with him.

I think Tom is right. Incog feeds on the trouble he causes. He's a vampire of sorts. He sucks energy, and that's a negative thing regardless of one's gender or sexual orientation.


GravatarDeath Toll could top a 1000 says Red Cross in Philippines.


GravatarAll in good time, Mr. Werbenmanjensen, all in good time...
Monty


Are you inviting me to a fruffly party? Because I'd love to go, ever so much!


GravatarGah, how lame.


GravatarGah, how lame.

Incog's best comeback? Yep. This, or some variation of this. Pathetic.

You're not worth talking to, and I wasn't talking to you.


GravatarI think Tom is right. Incog feeds on the trouble he causes. He's a vampire of sorts. He sucks energy, and that's a negative thing regardless of one's gender or sexual orientation.
phalarope | 12.03.06 - 3:56 am |


As if you didn't notice its use of "bull dyke" as a perjorative...

and vampire is the correct classification for its sort.

and for smitty, Aussie captain Ponting has a splendid at-bat to steady them after a horrendous start.


GravatarTalk about psychic vampires, if that's what you mean, how healthy can it be to constantly post links to really awfully bad news? I've been wondering about that lately. It's sorta like LGF site that is all about: THE TERRORISTS ARE COMING!! THE TERRORISTS ARE COMING!! It might become hard-wired or something.


GravatarWelp, the wireless installers just left. Jeez, what a miserable job, out in this freezing weather for 8 hours at night.


GravatarIt might become hard-wired or something.

Groupthink™Gumbo™
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Gravatar:::fart:::




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GravatarAre you inviting me to a fruffly party?

Are you a cocksucker, too?


GravatarGroupthink™Gumbo™
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Can you imagine being stuck in a job where you're thrill comes from trolling websites as an emotional vampire and listening about UFOs on the radio?


Gravatarhow healthy can it be to constantly post links to really awfully bad news?

The one thing you've ever said that I even slightly agree with you on, at least in principle.

However, when people are freaked out by something their first inclination is to talk about it. You do the same thing. You are veritable fountain of negativity and bad vibes at times -- specifically, at those times when something frightens you, shocks you, or disgusts you.


GravatarGet this, I tell my Insurance agent that her office, once a rented home, was where a couple I knew lived.

When the air base was open, they lived here.

He was a homemaker hubbie, had a comics collection and all kinds of costumes.

Several Rocky Horror characters, all of the Kiss outifts. He'd dress up as Riff-Raff and go to the nearby University town screenings of Rocky Horror.

Anyways the insurance Co. is having a "House Party" next week. Got the notice right after our last talk about my old role playing friends...

Thanks for the Rocky Horror link.


GravatarThe one thing you've ever said that I even slightly agree with you on, at least in principle.

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Yup... nothing like staying ignorant of the goings on in the world combined with constantly posting about "I" to show true mental health and understanding of what it means. *snicker*


GravatarHey, don't knock Art Bell. He's my hero. And that's not all I do. I broke up a fist fight the other night...


Gravatarhow healthy can it be to constantly post links to really awfully bad news?

Good point.

A concomitant question: How much good does it do to exercise catharsis of grief online?


GravatarTom: Can you imagine being stuck in a job where you're thrill comes from trolling websites as an emotional vampire and listening about UFOs on the radio?

Yes, but then, I have quite the imagination. For instance, I imagine that had I behaved that way for years (or so my friends would have told me), that I'd either seek the help the suggested, or I'd find some new friends who were more fucked up than I am so's I wouldn't hear about it all the time.

Or, I'd suck on the end of a shotgun.
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GravatarOr, I'd suck on the end of a shotgun.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 4:16 am | #


Don't say shit like that. This world can't afford such a waste of intelligence and energy as you describe;


Gravatarrorschach: Don't say shit like that. This world can't afford such a waste of intelligence and energy as you describe;

What I'm saying is that if I were in that much pain, and had to lash out at my friends rather than seek their advice and counsel...
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Gravatarjames baker is a madman.
A. Tad Superior
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At this point I'm thinkin' anyone in a suit and tie is a bit tetched.


Gravatarreally, we'd rather see incog let go of the 'down vibe' and enjoy life and company, here, and in his physical environs...


GravatarI think most people don't like their jobs. I do. I could probably find another job that pays better, get further immersed in the rat race, although I'm happy with my pay here. I could work days but then others who would have to work my shift, and they have kids, wives or husbands. I'm single so I'll work the weekend shift. I love the quiet solitudes, sometimes. Saturday night is the slowest it is here especially at 3am in the morning. I like speculating on other things like UFOs because I can't take the constant negativity and bad news that some focus in, probably too much here...


GravatarMr.Murder: really, we'd rather see incog let go of the 'down vibe' and enjoy life and company, here, and in his physical environs...

Well... duh!

Good luck convincing him of that, though.
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GravatarI've been at this funky job for 11 years and, not a single shift I've had, I didn't face some new challenge. Seriously, always something different.


GravatarSome of those who are paid more here chain smoke and are basket cases. And of course, with my hours, it's hard to meet someone. But I've been working with my brother the last on my days off from here and getting out and meeting more people. So, it's all good...


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What I'm saying is that if I were in that much pain, and had to lash out at my friends rather than seek their advice and counsel...
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 4:21 am | #


What I'm saying is that that "answer" is still bullshit and wrong.


GravatarWell, speaking of new frontiers... I'd better get a little rest before Chris Wallace (my hero!) comes on...

haw!


Gravatarlast year or so


GravatarWhat I'm saying is that if I were in that much pain

Gah, you know absolutely nothing, and I mean NOTHING about me. Your speculation is absurd and insulting.


GravatarThe only way I can take Jeff is that he's projecting on me about his own life.


GravatarImpeachment bitches!


GravatarThe only way I can take Jeff is that he's projecting on me about his own life.

Yeah, every month, the number of people supporting my causes is shrinking dramatically. That's me, a-yup.
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GravatarSomeone should photoshop Rummy and Alice Cooper into the classic tragedy character...


GravatarI come here, day after day, railing against wide, stereotypical swathes of humanity, pinning the blame for all my ills on them. That's me, a-yup.

No wonder no one defends me anymore. What an asshole I am!
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GravatarGosh, I must've worn out my welcome, playing the wounded Klingon, day-in, day-out. I'm one tiresome cunt.
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GravatarYeah, every month, the number of people supporting my causes is shrinking dramatically. That's me, a-yup.

Well, if that's the case, and I don't care if it is or isn't, I can't help that.


GravatarWell, if that's the case, and I don't care if it is or isn't, I can't help that.

You really wouldn't know, would you?

You also wouldn't know that people willing to rush to your side on anything here has shrunk by 90% in the last 12-18 months. You're too busy looking in the mirror, seeing what you want to see.
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GravatarJeff, the other c-word you just used is offensive to women. They've pointed that out here in the past. I've used it in the past but not anymore since they explained how it's offensive to them.


GravatarJeff, you're the one who apparently needs to get help.


GravatarJeff, the other c-word you just used is offensive to women. They've pointed that out here in the past. I've used it in the past but not anymore since they explained how it's offensive to them.

It's not enough to pretend to speak for all cocksuckers... now you've co-opted women overall, as well?!? Some balls you've got.
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GravatarI think you're on my case to distract yourself from your problems.


GravatarI think you're on my case to distract yourself from your problems.

You might be right, but somehow, I doubt it. Seems I have plenty of solutions, these days, including the one for you! Wanna know how it ends up? Keep up your bullshit, and find out!
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GravatarAre you threatening me? Why don't you go to bed. You're obviously drunk and hysterical.


GravatarLook, let's be bipartisan about this(literally) and stop using the nomer he so hates.

Change the word so all parties can agree it is disgusting projectionism.

Cuntsucker is what we'll call people now.


GravatarAre you threatening me? Why don't you go to bed. You're obviously drunk and hysterical.

Yes, I'm threatening you with exposure for the emotional leech that you are, asshole.

I've had two beers over the last 4.5 hours. I've had enough of your bullshit to last seven lifetimes.

And it is going to stop.
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GravatarIf you give me a spakin', Big Daddy, I might consider it...


GravatarI might consider it...

Consider anything you like -- it ain't up to you, any longer. You crossed that line, last night.
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GravatarHey, you like this song, Walk The Line?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=mhXoMrHCvIE


Gravatarwell he's killed another thread... same as it ever was...


GravatarYes, you're my new project, Incog. I'm pulling down everything haloscan's got on ya. Gonna index it by topic, put my own tags on 'em, make 'em available as a follow-up to every single post you ever make here, ever again. I'll hire people to do it, while I sleep.

You think I'm shittin' you, I bet. Just watch.

You wanted to be "run off" in your martyrdom? You're going to have your chance, sparky.
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GravatarIn fact, I can probably automate all this with a Greasemonkey script for Firefox... man, oh man.
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GravatarMr.Murder: well he's killed another thread... same as it ever was...

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by... everyone being asleep at this un-FSMly hour...!
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GravatarJeez, they said there were Internet Nuts and now I believe them.


GravatarAfter 10 years online, I've got my first stalker...


GravatarJeez, they said there were Internet Nuts and now I believe them.

Yes, I'm quite insane, obviously! Anyone who gets so pissed off because of an emotional lamprey sucking the life out of his other friends that he'll raze heaven and earth to insure no one else gets sucked dry by that con MUST be mad!
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GravatarI think it's his ego and his desire to distract himself and not for the reasons he lists.


GravatarI think it's his ego and his desire to distract himself and not for the reasons he lists.
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It raises its deflection shields to avoid taking responsibility for its own actions and hurting other people, Jeffraham. How typical of this sort of passive-aggressive vampire.


GravatarWelp, need to swoop off for some more ice from the diner. Be right back to rejoin all the mirth and merriment...


GravatarTom: It raises its deflection shields to avoid taking responsibility for its own actions and hurting other people, Jeffraham. How typical of this sort of passive-aggressive vampire.

As soon as I build this database from Google's search results, at least there'll be big "QUICKSAND!" signs around him, from that point, forward... no one else need be sucked into his vortex of pity and martyrdom.
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GravatarJeez, it's sorta turned into Lord of the Flies around here.


GravatarJeez, it's sorta turned into Lord of the Flies around here.

You brought the ingredients for the feast, so sit back and enjoy the home cookin'.
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GravatarIf you're maliciously harassing another commenter, Atrios will probably ban you.


GravatarThrough all the arguing over the c-word, Atrios never banned me, so, apparently, he didn't feel it rose to that level, but you do.

Get help.


GravatarNo one's banning you, dumbass.

However, hanging a sign around your neck, reading, "WARNING: Emotional Leech" will, by-and-large, be welcomed by the community, so as to warn others not to be suckers for your bullshit.
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GravatarHowever, hanging a sign around your neck, reading, "WARNING: Emotional Leech" will, by-and-large, be welcomed by the community, so as to warn others not to be suckers for your

More projection on your part. You're the one who's used this community for your own personal enrichment and sympathy, not me.


GravatarMore projection on your part. You're the one who's used this community for your own personal enrichment and sympathy, not me.

Well, if so, you're the only one to have expressed that point of view, ever.

People expressing my point of view, viz-a-viz your abusive behavior here, however...
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Gravatar(one can easily surmise Incog's credibility to be lower than paramecium shit)
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GravatarPeople expressing my point of view, viz-a-viz your abusive behavior here, however...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |


Didja hear that atrios is gonna ban trademark dave and simels for harrassing other users? *snicker*


GravatarWell, if so, you're the only one to have expressed that point of view, ever.

They've never had to. They've never had you stalking and harassing them.


GravatarSeriously, Jeff, get help. You made that shotgun comment earlier...


GravatarThey've never had to. They've never had you stalking and harassing them.

As truth is an absolute defense to libel, leading people to your past words is hardly harassment or stalking, dumbass.

You're just going to have to learn to live with it -- or find victims in some other forum, where your reputation won't follow you quite so closely, for a while (until someone there gets a seven-lifetimes dose of your bullshit).
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GravatarI have alot of friends and a few detractors here, namely you and snicker boy. Snicker boy, stop feeding his sickness and get help, Jeff.


Gravatarmorning, all.

Seems like a good moment to mention that at WaPo, the editorial section is a collection of offerings on Bush as Worst President Ever. There's even one from Director of the Roosevelt Center at Tulane, Doug Brinkley, trying to be kind;

'There isn't much that Bush can do now to salvage his reputation. His presidential library will someday be built around two accomplishments: that after 9/11, the U.S. homeland wasn't again attacked by terrorists (knock on wood) and that he won two presidential elections, allowing him to appoint conservatives to key judicial posts. I also believe that he is an honest man and that his administration has been largely void of widespread corruption. This will help him from being portrayed as a true villain.

This last point is crucial. Though Bush may be viewed as a laughingstock, he won't have the zero-integrity factors that have kept Nixon and Harding at the bottom in the presidential sweepstakes.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? nav=hcmodule

But all are happily pointing out that this is a monumental failure. And the cretin in chief is reprehensible;

'Harding and Coolidge are best remembered for the corruption of their years in office (1921-23 and 1923-29, respectively) and for channeling money and favors to big business. They slashed income and corporate taxes and supported employers' campaigns to eliminate unions. Members of their administrations received kickbacks and bribes from lobbyists and businessmen. "Never before, here or anywhere else," declared the Wall Street Journal, "has a government been so completely fused with business." The Journal could hardly have anticipated the even worse cronyism, corruption and pro-business bias of the Bush administration.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? nav=hcmodule


GravatarI have alot of friends and a few detractors here

Dude, I can count on one finger the people who will offer any positive words your direction, other than pity, that remain here, in December, 2006. Hey, if you see 'em, maybe they're real -- but I don't think you know which way the wind is blowin'.
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GravatarAussie captain Ponting has a splendid at-bat to steady them after a horrendous start.

Shit, I lost track of what was going on. Believe it or not, I find it easier to follow on weekdays.

Thanks Tom.


GravatarDear Sarah Deere! Come out, come out, wherever you are!
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GravatarMore projection on your part: You see you'll be getting less and less financial support from others here.

You should spend your energies on finding a job.


GravatarYou see you'll be getting less and less financial support from others here.

I sure hope so! Damn, you are dense, aren't you? That's been the goal for a very long time.

You, on the other hand, demand more emotional investment the longer you stay. It's played out here, I fucking guarantee it. You'll need to move along to get your fix.
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Gravatar*snort* so the emotionally abusive vampire is retreating in to the tried and true technique of "I know what you are, but what am I?" deflection. *snore*

and Jeffraham, it saw the celebrations and joy when it left, which is why it's back with all of its sockpuppets. it can't stand to see other people happy in a community, because of its own incapacity for such.

It tears it up inside to see how people love you and curly and despise it. And it fights back to cause trouble out of its hatred of its own social perversion... and then feeds on the responses to bolster its feelings of indignity and social perversion.


GravatarHell, like I wrote earlier, I don't have the best job, but it pays the bills. And you would be much better off mentally with having your mind on something else and having a routine instead of obsessing and projecting onto me.


GravatarAnd you would be much better off mentally with having your mind on something else and having a routine

Anyone wanna help him out, here? He obviously doesn't read much beyond anything involving himself.
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GravatarIt tears it up inside to see how people love you and curly and despise it. And it fights back to cause trouble out of its hatred of its own social perversion... and then feeds on the responses to bolster its feelings of indignity and social perversion.

Yup, you definitely have a creepy side to you...


GravatarI've already told you that I don't usually read your posts until tonight when you started bugging on me. I've always considered them a waste of time. Why can't you do the same?


Gravatar423h
Tom: It tears it up inside to see how people love you and curly and despise it.

I can't agree with that. I think most of the community are neutral-to-annoyed by him, with a few bunched at either pole. However, even some of the highly-annoyed have taken to ignoring him, rather than interacting with him, as they had in the past. Me? I'm not content to watch this picture show, any longer. I'm changin' the reels.
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GravatarWhy can't you do the same?

Because, you simpleton: You're using my friends for no good purpose, and it pisses me the fuck off. So, I'm putting an end to your reign of martyrdom. End of story.
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Gravatarhatred of its own social perversion

And what "social perversion" might that be?


GravatarYou're the only one who's used anybody around here. And I doubt you really consider them "friends."


GravatarI've already told you that I don't usually read your posts

You also told me (and everyone else, here -- it's a public forum, in case you hadn't noticed) that you were leaving, and yet here you are, still.

Why would anyone believe anything you "told" them, after that tremendous pile of bullshit?
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GravatarYou're the only one who's used anybody around here. And I doubt you really consider them "friends."

Your mission should be to find one person here who'll agree with you on that.
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GravatarI imagine you would consider them "suckers", since it would fall in line with your other projections.


GravatarI think it would impossible at this point since they would fear you'd go CRAZY! on them, too.


GravatarI imagine you would consider them "suckers", since it would fall in line with your other projections.

That's why I said you ought to take that on as your mission: Finding even one person that agrees with you on that, 'cause let me be honest, that'd crush my soul. And don't you really wanna hurt me, for exposing your bullshit martyrdom act... really?
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GravatarYour mission should be to find one person here who'll agree with you on that.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |


It's trying to make you feel guilty about having close connections with other people where they help you out.

Because it's social perversion of being an emotional vampire keeps it from making any such connections to other people and it makes itself feel good when it thinks it is making other people feel bad. (see also: calling me creepy.... BOO! Happy Halloween!)


GravatarNo, "my mission" is to ignore you from now on. But it's hard when you just keep pulling crap outta your bunghole to fling at me.


Gravatar"You should spend your"

This pathetic troll should just go away as he said he would well over a week ago. That would be doing himself and his country the greatest possible good.

And he should stop trolling Americablog. They couldn't stand him there either.

The job he refers to is most likely the sub minimum wage he gets for disrupting legitimate political discourse.

This asshat is the troll equivalent of Delay, Gingrich and Foley combined.

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Gravatar"You should spend your"

This pathetic troll should just go away as he said he would well over a week ago. That would be doing himself and his country the greatest possible good.

And he should stop trolling Americablog. They couldn't stand him there either.

The job he refers to is most likely the sub minimum wage he gets for disrupting legitimate political discourse.

This asshat is the troll equivalent of Delay, Gingrich and Foley combined.

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GravatarGreat Frank Rich column questioning Bush's sanity (good question!)...
http://theunknowncandidate.blogs...final- days.html


GravatarTom: It's trying to make you feel guilty about having close connections with other people where they help you out.

I think everyone here with one, glaring exception knows exactly how I fell, accepting charity. Most of them have read the "karmic debt repayment plan," and I've had nothing but support and well-wishes in the wake of that. Folx here are calling me for tech help, free of charge, now that it dawned on me to make all that happen in a way that wouldn't bankrupt me. I could not be happier that the ledger's red ink has stopped.
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GravatarI see three trolls.


GravatarBut it's hard when you just keep pulling crap outta your bunghole to fling at me.

Well, next time you see me responding to you, it'll be with your own crap, pulled out of Google's bunghole, you insufferable asshole.

Bank it.
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GravatarSo, did y'all like Trozdol's artwork?
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GravatarFind something more constructive to do with your time. You obviously have too much of it on your hands, and Truth, at least I don't have to depend of government taxpayer money to make my ends meet.

Sorry, you asked for it, punkin.


GravatarFolx here are calling me for tech help, free of charge, now that it dawned on me to make all that happen in a way that wouldn't bankrupt me. I could not be happier that the ledger's red ink has stopped.
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Congrats, Jeffraham on making lemonade out of lemons. The success of curlytech is another one of those things that must eat away at the self-loathing emotional vampire.


GravatarGreat Frank Rich column.

Not that anybody is heeding it, I suppose.


GravatarOK, I'm really going to start responding to the trolls since people are starting to wake up.


Gravatarstart = stop


GravatarTom: The success of curlytech

... is largely to be determined, but it sure won't fail for lack of trying. sittenpretty and I were discussing the whole community collaboration and interaction concept, where I'm forging alliances locally, and leveraging those relationships into opportunities for everyone to benefit. I honestly can't see how I can fail, since my primary goal is to be of service to others, before all else.
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GravatarBy the way, anybody want proof that "Truth" is really a liar, check out my postings and responses at Americablog for yourself. Other than that, who cares.


GravatarOther than that, who cares.

Only those who might otherwise become your latest victim, showing you any human kindness, whatever, not knowing what a vile, sick person you truly are.
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Gravatar"at least I don't have to depend of government taxpayer money to make my ends meet"

And what money would that be, the unemployment, workers comp, social security, etc etc etc I earned and never got because it went to pay for your masters war alomg with millions of other Americans who have been systematically duped and bilked by this deliberate scam, you disgusting creep? As far as ends meeting you don't have to make them meet because you only have one end and it's you ass, you pathetic asshole. Go away.

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GravatarInteresting, cartman, and on Chris Matthews Andy Sullivan just referred to the cretin in chief being in a state of denial. Reassuring that generally the conception of the c-i-c is that it's one sick puppy. Recalls the last days of Nixon.


GravatarYe shall know them by their fruits.
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GravatarGood Morning, Moonbats.


Gravatar... is largely to be determined, but it sure won't fail for lack of trying. sittenpretty and I were discussing the whole community collaboration and interaction concept, where I'm forging alliances locally, and leveraging those relationships into opportunities for everyone to benefit. I honestly can't see how I can fail, since my primary goal is to be of service to others, before all else.
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Entrepreneurship and forging successful human relationships and a web of positive human interactions is a success in itself, even if the monetary side doesn't become Bill Gates.

But our emotional vampire is completely incapable of forging a positive human relationship, which forces it to try and make people feel bad, because that's the only thing it's ever been moderately successful at.


GravatarBush is not "my master", Oh Unhinged One.


GravatarJeez, now this place has turned into an Up With People Rally.


GravatarMorn', Barndog! How goes the pain-battle, today?
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GravatarJoe Klein saying Saudi Arabia about to jump in on the Sunnis' side if we withdraw and leave the Shi'ite militias free to overrun them. Which is what, he says, was the reason Cheney was summoned to SA.


GravatarMorning, bats.

Have we talked about the Death Star yet?

Not just in denial, having psychotic delusions.


GravatarJeez, now this place has turned into an Up With People Rally.

It's called "actually caring about others," rather than just pretending that you do. Try it sometime. You might like it.
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GravatarI have infrequently posted on AmericaBlog.


GravatarYeah, but I think those are just words you use. I don't think you really care about anybody, quite frankly. Sorry, I'm just very intuitive.


GravatarMolly Ivors: Have we talked about the Death Star yet?

Shit! Yeah, the next three generations of Americans' credit card statement will just not do until it takes 743 semi trucks to deliver it, each month.
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GravatarPain is okay.. so far.

Molly - the little on make it home from Rocky Horror? I sure miss going to that. That was sooooooo cool.


GravatarYeah, but I think those are just words you use. I don't think you really care about anybody, quite frankly. Sorry, I'm just very intuitive.

Who, from here, did you help yesterday?

The day before?

Last week? Last month?

Ever?
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GravatarDeathstar would be a perfect name for the C-I-C legacy.


GravatarBarndog,
She and the pal we're going to spend the night down there tonight, at the other girl's house. I'll call her in a while to make sure she's fine, but the show didn't get out until 2:30 or so.


Gravatarmorning


Gravatarwe're = were

It's early. Coffee is still in process.


GravatarDWD! Pull up an ergonomic chair and have a cup o' joe with the Zoo Crew.
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GravatarMorning, all


GravatarFaux Noose Sundae fixin' to come one here... in 113 minutes.
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GravatarI helped my mom a few days ago. I help people all the time but I'm not going to share those personal examples with a hostile creep like you.


Gravatar DWD - Much Better, thanks

Well, that's good to hear!


GravatarTom: Entrepreneurship and forging successful human relationships and a web of positive human interactions is a success in itself, even if the monetary side doesn't become Bill Gates.

As I was tellin' sittenpretty last night, my needs are meager -- $1000/month will feed, house, clothe and now transport me wherever I need to go, and in reasonable comfort.
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GravatarBy the way, Strawberry Moonpies suck. I just bit into one for the first time. ACK!!


GravatarI helped my mom a few days ago.

And... you met your mom, here? Pay attention, dumbass.
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GravatarProf. Brinkley,
Your assumption that George W. Bush is honest, in background of your summation of the ongoing quagmire, renders people with no choice but to consider you at best, an opportunist.
We could list numerous instances of convictions and scandals, multitudes of blood of and treasure squandered, as examples.

Let me instead make this brief.
Douglas Brinkleys statement that George Bush is honest, should be placed forever in proximity to Karl Roves scandalous role directing Katrina relief. Both leave persons drowning(literally) in irony.


GravatarJP - incoming email.

DWD, man - glad to hear that.


Gravatarroflmao.


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GravatarStrawberry Moonpie?

Ugh. I shuddered like never before.


GravatarWell, I think I have decided (last night) to pursue the disability option ASAP. This last little incident has scared me pretty badly. That is the second infection this year (since I hurt myself) where my body was unable to fight off the infection and conventional treatments did not work.

That and the Blood Pressure going as high as it did (229/126) and the constant pain and endless taking of pills to keep working.

Just does not make sense at this point.


GravatarSorry, this is too funny ... Hilton head, SC, the widow is marrying her husband's donated heart recipient. I've heard of 'Follow the Money' but.....


GravatarWaPo's text doesn't let you use parenthesis.

It ruined my comment's effectiveness...


GravatarI'm really sick of you calling me names all night, Jeff. Get help with your issues and stop projecting on me.


Gravatarmornin'

What's up with four eyes?


Gravatar*sigh*

No one cares about Trozdol's artwork? Dang.
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GravatarDWD -

A wise decision my friend.


GravatarAnd it is with a certain sadness that I point out that we are a generation that has seemed to have lost hope.

When I was young we were powerful and strong. If anything the last six years has show us it is that we simply have no ability whatsoever to change the future to meet our ideals.

Instead we are left with trying to salvage the mere remnants of the dream. Backfilling and trying to protect that which has not YET been lost is sad, really.

Wish it were not so.


GravatarGet help with your issues and stop projecting on me.

I'll get right on that, as soon as I hear who you helped here, ever. EVER.
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GravatarDWD - also look at it this way: it's not our fault that we ended up like this. It's also not our fault that we couldn't continue working at what we love to do.

I had a really tough time accepting that. But over time I realized that there are some of those carpentry items I can still do, and very well. I just can't go out and make a living doing them. Helping friends here and there, sure. Trying to make a weekly income - my body cannot handle it.

Good move, brother.


GravatarUgh. I shuddered like never before.
Barndog


Gah, it was awful. I picked up 4 different flavors of Moonpie at the store before work. The Banana Moonpie was good. Haven't tried the Lemon Moonpie yet. Forgot the last flavor. But when I bit into the Strawberry one, it had a distinct unpleasent chemical taste to it.

Anyways, gotta wrap up here. See ya at the house...


GravatarBy their fruits, ye shall know them.
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GravatarDWD, as you may recall, that's something I've really looked forward to for you, and even the good you do the receptive ones you're teaching doesn't offset whittling away at your own life.

'Both leave persons drowning(literally) in irony.
Mr.Murder '

It's amazing that anyone looking at the dishonesty of this admin still will continue to cling to some belief in the central figure as being [deluded but] basically honest.


GravatarAHEM!

What you see here is an excerpt of a graphic created by my new friend, Trozdol, whom I met at Cafe Coco a couple of weeks ago. He's an art student, who also has a part-time gig at CompUSA locally, and I commissioned him to do this graphic for my "coming soon" community resource web site that will be tied to my condo community, and to local businesses in the 37209 zip code. Being an enterprising young man, he said he would accept a Curly DVD and 2% of my gross receipts for as long as I use the graphic, minimum of 90 days use. Is that great, or what?
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GravatarBy their fruits, ye shall know them.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


By the way, folks, he's a great humanitarian and it turns out, an Internet stalker if you cross him. Who knew...


GravatarRuth,

One of my chief concerns is that retiring with disability will preclude me from doing some things I would like to do. If I just retired then I could still help in the schools.

That is kind of hard to express but I guess that is about the best I can do. I would love to work with some G&T kids on their writing, for example, but if I feel like shit and the government is going to be watching over my shoulder . . . .


GravatarHey, JP, you asked yesterday about TMBG songs. I can burn you a cuple of discs, if you like, or email them, if you have a big inbox.


GravatarI really don't eat much stuff like that anymore. Granola bars are a staple around here.

Occasionaly, we'll splurge and get some Swiss Cake Rolls.


GravatarMolly Ivors: Hey, JP, you asked yesterday about TMBG songs. I can burn you a cuple of discs, if you like, or email them, if you have a big inbox.

I have a HUGEmungeous Gmail box, just a-waitin'. Let's use that, shall we?

Sadly, I doubt I have all that much to offer you in return, since I think I may have already sent The Bears, yes?
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GravatarAnd it is with a certain sadness that I point out that we are a generation that has seemed to have lost hope.


It is important to remember that this is because our dreams have systematically been stolen at least since JFK was killed by the same gang. Most of America is now waking up to this, due in large part to our efforts, she is pissed. Constitutional democracy is fragile in one sense, but highly resilient and resistant to tyrrany in another. The simple fact is that every minute there are less and less Republicans believing in or even able to have any basis to believe in the lies they have been spoonfed for so many years.
Keep your chin up.


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GravatarI really don't eat much stuff like that anymore. Granola bars are a staple around here.

Occasionaly, we'll splurge and get some Swiss Cake Rolls.
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Now that sounds like a fuckin' crunchy hippie.


GravatarI feel like shit and the government is going to be watching over my shoulder

You know as well as I do, thats going to happen no matter what.


GravatarDWD, if you assist the students thru another institution than the schools, say, Boys' and/or Girls' Club or the like, wouldn't that be outside the gov't's microscope?


GravatarSadly, I doubt I have all that much to offer you in return, since I think I may have already sent The Bears, yes?

Yeah, but I owe you for Cars anyway.


GravatarI just reconnected with the old metalhead sysprog cow-orker from my days at Morehead State University, and FTP'd him a couple of CDs I figured he'd enjoy. Monday, he's hooking me up with long-lost Hoodoo Gurus and Jane's Addiction (thanks to the ming-jogs of this place).
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GravatarJesus H Ô¿Ô. Just go to bed will ya please?


GravatarHave we talked about the Death Star yet?

This part set off my shit detector:

The article, published by Pajamas Media

Uh ... yeah.

I think it's part of a three part PM series. Next part: Building an army of clone assassins.


GravatarMolly Ivors: Yeah, but I owe you for Cars anyway.

Pish-posh, "owe." Teensy li'l Christmas gift for the thousands of yer brood to share, Mom.
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GravatarMorning peeps.

Molly, we should really talk re our daughters. I was once where you are, right down to the clothes. It's okay, believe me.

Gilliard had a great post up in the last few days saying basically that the Saudi army isn't worth shit and will be totally ineffectual in trying save Iraqi Sunnis.

I'm glad that people in the msm are finally beginning to question w's sanity.


Gravatarql in ny: I'm glad that people in the msm are finally beginning to question w's sanity.

Better way too fucking late than never...? :-/
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GravatarMorning all.


GravatarI dunno, Truth, it seems to me that we no longer look at addressing problems, we just look for ways to save the things that work.

We have killed unions (pretty much)
We are not really discussing Nationalized Health Care seriously.
Our Defense industry is still controlling our government.
Inequalities are not being pointed out with an eye to addressing the injustice, instead we address the simplest ideas (and most worthwhile) with a wistful eye. (An example of this is education: we no longer think in terms of ideology, we want measureable results and don't want to spend any money to achieve them.)
The gap between those who have and those who need has become a chasm and we are not addressing closing it. . . .


GravatarRuth mentioned it earlier, but there are 4 editorials about just how bad Bush is as a President from historians in the Washington Post today.

All agree that Bush sucks, the lamest defense being, he might suck slightly less in hindsight.

That's the best a conservative historian can do.


GravatarRuth mentioned it earlier, but there are 4 editorials about just how bad Bush is as a President from historians in the Washington Post today.

All agree that Bush sucks, the lamest defense being, he might suck slightly less in hindsight.

That's the best a conservative historian can do.


GravatarDWD - I don't think that we have lost the dream. Instead, I think we are just so damned busy, paying for college and the mortgage and what not that we just don't have the time to be active in community actions. Which is just how corporatist America likes it. Look what Cindy Sheehan managed almost single handedly. But she has a way of paying the bills. Most of us do not have the luxury of just popping over to Crawford for a few weeks to protest. As the baby boomers retire, I look for more activism on their part.


GravatarI'm glad that people in the msm are finally beginning to question w's sanity

Let's see how long it keeps up.

Morning QL. Moe, Atta.


GravatarActually, it's looking to me as if the public in general has just recovered from its unwillingness to view some one in high office as being criminal and culpable. Yes, the Brinkley's still slop some gloss on the man himself, but most of us are over it. In order to regain control, the elected officials have to go ahead and prosecute. And I do believe that's going to be next. When next the c-i-c defies the law, it's going to be a showdown.


GravatarAll agree that Bush sucks, the lamest defense being, he might suck slightly less in hindsight.

That's the best a conservative historian can do.


Don't forget: He wasn't quite as corrupt as Harding.


GravatarThis part set off my shit detector:

The article, published by Pajamas Media

Uh ... yeah.


Oh, I agree. But as it was part of an attack on Dems for not being serious about it, it may yet have some veracity.

QL, we should do coffee over the holidays.


GravatarThere was a bit of a revolution in the Canadian Liberal Party yesterday-- the kind of grassroots revolt against the party establishment that the American Democratic Party needs.


Gravatar"I feel like shit and the government is going to be watching over my shoulder

You know as well as I do, thats going to happen no matter what."



We are our actual government. That is the genius of our system. When it is abused to this degree, our actual true system (not the shadow government in control since JFK's killing) provides balance. It is not easy, and since it has been hijacked for so long it is even more difficult, but the bottom line is we the people of the United States Of America are our own government, and even in the despicably bought and paid for media, that undeniable fact is emerging. If you are an American and if you want your rights, just keep it firmly in mind that eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty. Tyrants come and go, but true freedom, once won, is not so easily vanquished.

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GravatarThe wife and I are watching an HOB documentary on eating disorders.

I am just horrified listening to and seeing some of these women on this program.


GravatarMoe,
I missed the end of the vote discussion. Is this Dion thing a good thing?


GravatarThat would be HBO. Sheeeeesh.


GravatarHow thoughtful of you yo answer my qustion before I asked it, Moe. You're a champ!


GravatarDon't forget: He wasn't quite as corrupt as Harding.

Or James K. Polk, as Atrios posted yesterday.


GravatarMeds kicked in again, gonna try to sleep a bit more (This USED to be when I would exit out to write a bit. Now, not so much.)


GravatarJP, did you get the first set?


Gravatarhi, Attaturk, also noteworthy is that WaPo is giving its headliners a green light to tell readers the president is unsound.

The cocktail weenies being passed up here are mindboggling.


GravatarMolly-- I think so. He's going to have problems in Quebec-- many people there can't forgive him for writing the Clarity Act, which defined how Canada would react to an independence referendum. Plum says because of this he won't get the support in Quebec, but I'm more hopeful. For one, he repeatedly gets reelected in his Montreal riding, so that says something. For another, the hard-core indepennce movement is only something like 25 percent of the population to begin with, and young people seem less inclined to go along with it. Dion has very strong environmental credentials, and that's a major concern among Quebec voters.

In English Canada, Dion is seen as a bit of a nerd, and a strong nationalist, which I think will make him a strong candidate.

So, in the next few months, he'll have to do a lot of work on the ground in Quebec, and lay out some strong environmental issues as leader of the opposition. If he works it right, I could see an early spring election, and he could be Prime Minister in a minority government. I'm hoping anyway.


GravatarMolly-- I think so. He's going to have problems in Quebec-- many people there can't forgive him for writing the Clarity Act, which defined how Canada would react to an independence referendum. Plum says because of this he won't get the support in Quebec, but I'm more hopeful. For one, he repeatedly gets reelected in his Montreal riding, so that says something. For another, the hard-core indepennce movement is only something like 25 percent of the population to begin with, and young people seem less inclined to go along with it. Dion has very strong environmental credentials, and that's a major concern among Quebec voters.

In English Canada, Dion is seen as a bit of a nerd, and a strong nationalist, which I think will make him a strong candidate.

So, in the next few months, he'll have to do a lot of work on the ground in Quebec, and lay out some strong environmental issues as leader of the opposition. If he works it right, I could see an early spring election, and he could be Prime Minister in a minority government. I'm hoping anyway.


GravatarMolly Ivors: JP, did you get the first set?

Yes'm; they's already in the Archos!
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GravatarNow that sounds like a fuckin' crunchy hippie

Tom - this hippie has no eating or digestive problems at all. We eat healthy - wife has type 2 diabetes, I started a modifed diet for Ankylosing Spondylitis/Rheumatoid at the beginning of this year. I've lost over 80 lbs so far.

Aside from the back issues, I've felt great overall.


GravatarBarndog,
Losing weight will undoubtedly help your back, too.


GravatarSo good I had to say it twice, apparently.


GravatarSpeakin' of the Archos... I bemoaned the loss of my Musicmatch Jukebox Lifetime Upgrade key, yesterdiddy.

Well, turns out I don't strictly need it to rip from CD -> mp3... it just doesn't do it at top-speed. Quality is fine; all else, fine.

However... the sensible default setting for MMJB is to file mp3s away in their own li'l directory nest: Artist > Album > Title ...

As it so happens, the shuffle play on the Archos does NOT play randomly from subdirectories; only from the PARENT directory! D'oh!

Now, I gotta move shit around...
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GravatarMoe - It was worth saying twice. Thanks.


GravatarOh yeah, Molly. It has already, far as everyday pain goes.


GravatarFrank Rich via the Firewall Fairies.


GravatarFrank Rich via the Firewall Fairies.


GravatarThe real news is that the Liberals rejected the party insiders. The insiders had plucked that asshole Ignatieff out of Harvard and brought him in as some sort of self-appointed saviour for the party. The Ignatieff movement represented everything that was wrong with the party-- the sense of entitlement and elitism. Ignatieff, very roughly speaking, was the Hillary Clinton of Canada. He was rejected.


GravatarOne of the single most important things to keep in mind at all times is that the true poison is in our M-E-D-I-A. Virtually everything you see on the teevee and everything you see in the papers, and much of what you see even on the tubes and trucks is on some level or to some degree actually an ADVERTISMENT for the gophyperpermamilitaryindustrialcarceralmindcontrol surveillancepetrochemicalfiatmoneyscamnuclearfubar state.

If you keep this perspective, THEN it is POSSIBLE to at least understand HOW you are being LIED to. As long as you cannot SEE the lies, it is virtually impossible to DO anything about them. Once you can see them, then you can consider options, and plenty of options do exist. The whole "I'm just one person what can I do" bit is designed to make you feel powerless. Mandela said "It is not our darkness, but rather our light of which we are actually most afraid."

I say to all of you, to each and every one of my beloved American brothers and sisters, do not be afraid, and do not hide your lamp under a bushel, but let it shine, for this is how we have taken this last battle, and this is how we shall win the real fight.

Peace.


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GravatarOne of the single most important things to keep in mind at all times is that the true poison is in our M-E-D-I-A. Virtually everything you see on the teevee and everything you see in the papers, and much of what you see even on the tubes and trucks is on some level or to some degree actually an ADVERTISMENT for the gophyperpermamilitaryindustrialcarceralmindcontrol surveillancepetrochemicalfiatmoneyscamnuclearfubar state.

If you keep this perspective, THEN it is POSSIBLE to at least understand HOW you are being LIED to. As long as you cannot SEE the lies, it is virtually impossible to DO anything about them. Once you can see them, then you can consider options, and plenty of options do exist. The whole "I'm just one person what can I do" bit is designed to make you feel powerless. Mandela said "It is not our darkness, but rather our light of which we are actually most afraid."

I say to all of you, to each and every one of my beloved American brothers and sisters, do not be afraid, and do not hide your lamp under a bushel, but let it shine, for this is how we have taken this last battle, and this is how we shall win the real fight.

Peace.


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Gravatarql, I just am reading in the Dallas Morning news about a historic quilt collection of Ima Hogg that is being shown, reference www.thestoryof texas.com. Sounded interesting.

Anyone surprised at the name pro'ly never heard that Gov. Hogg of TX named his daughters Ima Hogg and Ura Hogg.


GravatarTom - this hippie has no eating or digestive problems at all. We eat healthy - wife has type 2 diabetes, I started a modifed diet for Ankylosing Spondylitis/Rheumatoid at the beginning of this year. I've lost over 80 lbs so far.

Aside from the back issues, I've felt great overall.
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Congrats. Nothing wrong with being a crunchy hippie. Though it's a lot harder finding granola here than it was in the People's Republic of Cambridge.


GravatarWelp, I'm gonna need a few minutes sleep, today... not too many, since I wanna get back on the day shift.

bbl


GravatarI can send you an easy recipe Tom. All you really need is oatmeal and some honey/sugar.


Gravatarreminder, carter on cspan2, noon eastern.


GravatarTruth, I am enormously encouraged by the effect of the internet, and see its pressure as keeping the media from real manipulation, as eventually every story is being told. The media is struggling just to keep up, only Fox is actually purely giving out lies. The rest of them are getting too nervous about their viewer/readerships.

Dallas Morning news this a.m. for instance, is reporting that the new EPA air pollution standards have already shown they are not healthy, and enuff particulates are being allowed in the air to cause increasing cancer rates. With test results to that effect.


GravatarI sometimes use wheat germ, nutritional yeast and other additives into my granola, when I get experimental too...


GravatarThis gets it about right:

Dion looks forward to election

MONTREAL — Stéphane Dion's victory at this weekend's Liberal convention sets the stage for the next election, with the new leader signalling he will campaign against the minority Conservative government on the environment issue.

The selection of the owlish academic from Quebec opens the door for the Liberals to separate themselves from the Tories on the green issue and to start pressing Prime Minister Stephen Harper harder on management of the Afghanistan military mission.

"Now we are gathered with one goal, to win the next election for Canadians," Mr. Dion, the former environment minister, said in his first speech as leader to a cheering crowd of more than 5,000 convention delegates.

The 51-year-old Montreal MP, who entered the race as a long shot, surged past the two leading contenders Saturday to win a topsy-turvy Liberal convention in four ballots. The delegates faced a final choice between two former university professors, Mr. Dion and Michael Ignatieff.

Mr. Dion entered the Commons in a 1996 by-election, after being wooed from his post as a political-science professor in Montreal by former prime minister Jean Chrétien to take on the national unity file in 1996, following the Quebec referendum.

The runner up, Mr. Ignatieff, was a Harvard professor who returned to Canada after an absence of three decades to win a seat in Toronto for the Liberals in the January election.

But Mr. Ignatieff's previous support for American military involvement in Iraq and some of his controversial academic writings on coercive interrogation of terrorists left a bad taste with many Liberals.

One of the loudest and longest rounds of applause at the convention was in appreciation for former prime minister Jean Chrétien's decision to keep Canada out of the Iraq war.

Mr. Dion, by contrast, has a freer hand to criticize government foreign and national security policy without fear his past positions will come back to haunt him.

Mr. Dion's heavy emphasis on environmental issues during the leadership race suggests the Liberal strategy will be to try to create sharp contrasts with the Tories in that area — which could help the Liberals win some of the support of the Green Party, which has swelled in opinion polls in recent months.


GravatarGood morning all.

Random pre-coffee meandering: All this talk of "hippies" makes me wonder why no complains about yippies. You also don't hear much about yuppies or preppies anymore, either.

Judging from the spew from pundits and political operatives and framed media, it's as if we're all supposed to divided into categories based on, well, our divisiveness.

In other words, we are all "people against people."

Pappies!

[I will now have my coffee, as that was very silly.]


GravatarFuck you, Haloscan. This gets it about right:

Dion looks forward to election

MONTREAL — Stéphane Dion's victory at this weekend's Liberal convention sets the stage for the next election, with the new leader signalling he will campaign against the minority Conservative government on the environment issue.
The selection of the owlish academic from Quebec opens the door for the Liberals to separate themselves from the Tories on the green issue and to start pressing Prime Minister Stephen Harper harder on management of the Afghanistan military mission.
"Now we are gathered with one goal, to win the next election for Canadians," Mr. Dion, the former environment minister, said in his first speech as leader to a cheering crowd of more than 5,000 convention delegates.

The 51-year-old Montreal MP, who entered the race as a long shot, surged past the two leading contenders Saturday to win a topsy-turvy Liberal convention in four ballots. The delegates faced a final choice between two former university professors, Mr. Dion and Michael Ignatieff.
Mr. Dion entered the Commons in a 1996 by-election, after being wooed from his post as a political-science professor in Montreal by former prime minister Jean Chrétien to take on the national unity file in 1996, following the Quebec referendum.
The runner up, Mr. Ignatieff, was a Harvard professor who returned to Canada after an absence of three decades to win a seat in Toronto for the Liberals in the January election.

But Mr. Ignatieff's previous support for American military involvement in Iraq and some of his controversial academic writings on coercive interrogation of terrorists left a bad taste with many Liberals.
One of the loudest and longest rounds of applause at the convention was in appreciation for former prime minister Jean Chrétien's decision to keep Canada out of the Iraq war.
Mr. Dion, by contrast, has a freer hand to criticize government foreign and national security policy without fear his past positions will come back to haunt him.
Mr. Dion's heavy emphasis on environmental issues during the leadership race suggests the Liberal strategy will be to try to create sharp contrasts with the Tories in that area — which could help the Liberals win some of the support of the Green Party, which has swelled in opinion polls in recent months.


GravatarFrank Rich via the Firewall Fairies.
Molly
The most startling example was his insistence that Al Qaeda is primarily responsible for the country’s spiraling violence.


heard a general yesterday say on cnn that the country with the most al qaeda members gathering forces is in the failed state of somalia.

wonder what they're up to there.


GravatarWhat of yuppies? Those fucks are all over the goddamm place.


GravatarI can send you an easy recipe Tom. All you really need is oatmeal and some honey/sugar.
Barndog, dammed dirty hippie |


And a big oven. which tends to be the stumbling block in this region.


GravatarFrank Rich via the Firewall Fairies.
Molly Ivors


Ooo...are you snubbing NTodd?


GravatarI'm sorry I've "never helped anyboby here before." I did send some some 'positive vibes' to DWD to get better one time but I guess it wasn't enough...


Gravatar
Ooo...are you snubbing NTodd?


Not at all! Last time I checked, he was only doing selections, not whole text. Glad to see he's being a bad boy now.


Gravataruncle smokes, maybe that's why bush senior is called poppy.


GravatarWheedling is really no more attractive than picking fights.

Well, I've got tons to do today. Later, friends!


GravatarBy the way "Truth", if you're still and get time, could you post some examples of the "dislike I've recieved at AmericaBlog."

thanks in advance


GravatarAndrea Mitchell hosting Chris Matthews' show this a.m. referred to the Colin Powell insistence that Iraq is in Civil War as 'retirement balls'.


Gravatarmoe, canada would never allow for unauditable black box voting, huh?


Gravatar'retirement balls'.
Ruth

what?


GravatarTruth, I am enormously encouraged by the effect of the internet, and see its pressure as keeping the media from real manipulation, as eventually every story is being told. The media is struggling just to keep up, only Fox is actually purely giving out lies. The rest of them are getting too nervous about their viewer/readerships. - Ruth Revolted

I agree to some extent, but they are already trying to silence the internet through ant-neutrality measueres, and complacency is what has alway costs us our gains whether those of the 60's, or those of the Clinton era. I'm urging a very careful and very deep analysis by every individual for themselves of everything they are presented with, because it is not just on FOX at all, and there I must disagree with you. If you look carefully, you will see the lies embedded everywhere, and you do not have to be paranoid to see them. Many of them come from well-intentioned sources. Many of them come from within ourselves at this point as we have become so conditioned by this vile pernicious garbage. What I say is that the lies are told at a level which, if that level is not monitored by eternal vigilance, enables them to slip by our consciousness, thus avoid detection, and then take root. We then participate in our own enslavement. This is part and parcel of the agenda, and it has it's modern roots in the nazi programme.

=*=


=*=


GravatarIt sucks going from high-speed at work to dial-up at home where I am now, but not enough to pay for DSL. I'm too cheap.


GravatarTake care people, Peaceout.

=*=


Gravatardid everybody go for coffee break?


Gravatardid everybody go for coffee break?
jello


Nah, they're just hanging on the edge of their seats waiting for my next utterance...


Gravatar"This Week" with Stephanopoulos:

ROUNDTABLE: George Will, Martha Raddatz, and David Corn discuss the week's politics

So... I expect George Will will get taken to the woodshed for his lies and distortions in his column about Webb and Bush, don't you?

Actually, I'm slightly more optimistic that the subject will come up since David Corn is replacing Fareed Zacharia.

We'll see, won't we? I'm not holding my breath, however.


GravatarBut Truth, don't leave before posting examples of the dislike for me at AmericaBlog!!!


Gravatarjello, I see 'retirement balls' as those pronouncements from people formerly in power that would have been really meaningful if they had been spoken out while they were still making policy. Gen Sanchez was speaking with a friend of mine not long ago, blaming every general that has been in Iraq for the failures, all except himself. They're making statements on the book circuits that would have been helpful if they'd made and stuck to them when they had a position and power to effect change.


GravatarAndrea Mitchell hosting Chris Matthews' show this a.m. referred to the Colin Powell insistence that Iraq is in Civil War as 'retirement balls'.
Ruth, revolted


Mrs. Greenspan, if anyone, should be an expert in "retirement balls" but I have no idea what this means.

Can y'help a guy out here?


GravatarMorning, rational people.

I just did a quick scan of the thread, but DWD, I think you're making a wise choice.


Gravatarwhy does there have to be a popularity contest? who cares? i thought this was a place to exchange ideas.


Gravatarjello, I see 'retirement balls' as those pronouncements from people formerly in power that would have been really meaningful if they had been spoken out while they were still making policy

Answered before asked... cool.

This makes sense (I was afraid she was referring to their slow descent to the knees... the male equivalent of "retirement tits").

This is what Condi promises us she'll write, huh? Retirement balls or tits or something.


GravatarThey're making statements on the book circuits that would have been helpful if they'd made and stuck to them when they had a position and power to effect change.

The generals and admirals have a lot to answer for. Not only did they fail us as a nation and the troops under their command, but they broke their sworn oaths to protect the Constitution. I am not suggesting taking them to Nuremburg, but giving them a big chicken dinner.


Gravatarthe douglas brinkley who wrote kerry's bio? i used to enjoy hearing brinkley speak, but this is nonsense:

I also believe that he is an honest man and that his administration has been largely void of widespread corruption.


Gravataroh, hi, Diane, I love your post - in South and Central American countries what we see as redistribution of land is more like the return of stolen land to its rightful owners, you realize.

from http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/

'The only visits to Central and South America that the President has made have been in connection with trade initiatives that would extend NAFTA southward. Apparently the current administration's policies are geared only towards how much money can be wrung out of the region under the guise of free trade. '


Gravatar"A secretive U.S. air force facility in Colorado Springs, Colo., tested a radio frequency this past week that it would use to communicate with first responders in the event of a homeland security threat. But the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."

oh hell, where's maxwell smart when you need him. ...


GravatarBut the frequency also controls an estimated 50 million garage door openers, and hundreds of residents in the surrounding area found their garage doors had suddenly stopped working."

"missed it by THAT much"


GravatarRetirement balls? Is that where you don' take like Viagra or something?


GravatarActually, it was a drill to see how many Merkans the air force facility could keep out of their hair for awhile so they could launch the deathstar ...


GravatarAck! One of the Heroes is going away?


GravatarThey're making statements on the book circuits that would have been helpful if they'd made and stuck to them when they had a position and power to effect change.

This was basically what Billmon kicked Thomas Ricks to the curb about in the course of praising the content of "Fiasco."

"Gee, Tom... this is much tastier stuff than the Kool Aid you were pouring while this was actually going on. Wonder why you never said anything at the time?"


OT- Washington Post print edition (maybe online, too... didn't check) has a couple of truly hideous portraits of plastic-surgery ravaged Dolly Parton (we're talking "face" here). The woman resembles the elderly love-child of Charo and Walter Matthau.


GravatarRetirement balls? Is that where you don' take like Viagra or something?

The prom for old folks.


Gravatar'Is that where you don' take like Viagra or something?
Barndog, dammed dirty hippie'

well, I suppose it could be one of those big dances, one you go to and watch the kids have fun from a relaxor massage chair.


GravatarThe generals and admirals have a lot to answer for. Not only did they fail us as a nation and the troops under their command, but they broke their sworn oaths to protect the Constitution. I am not suggesting taking them to Nuremburg, but giving them a big chicken dinner.
Snow


what was that book clinton's sec of defense had his generals read? that brought about the response the that they would never allow another vietnam happen again.


Gravatarwhy does there have to be a popularity contest? who cares? i thought this was a place to exchange ideas.
jello - carter o8


It should be but lately it's become more and more group-think. And if your ideas don't fall within certain group norms, you're attacked. It was bewildering to be fiercly attacked for writing that the term "cocksucker" is or should be offensive to gays. It concept seems pretty self-evident to me although new to most people.


GravatarMorning, Diane.

Also Snow, jello, Steve LG etc.


GravatarAnd I'll probably be attacked for writting it's become more and more group think because that falls outside of the group think...


GravatarLet's not rewrite history. You were attacked for racism and misogyny.


GravatarRetirement balls are the nads that suddenly appear when they are no longer needed.

It would have been more helpful had said nads been present when this whole awful scenario was proposed.


Gravatari know the feeling, Ô¿Ô. some people take personally my criticism of the clintons or other members of the DLC.


GravatarSay, Barndog, did those epidurals have any lasting effect on the pain?


GravatarI really need to get some glasses for real and not just a moniker. They're really cheap at WalMart but always forget because I only remember when I'm reading up close...


GravatarMornin' BD.

How come it's the women who know exactly what "retirement balls" are and the guys are generally baffled?

I have some ugly suspicions.


GravatarMorning, Barndog. Y'all dug out from all that weather?


Gravataruncle smokes, maybe that's why bush senior is called poppy.
jello - carter o8


Well, ya learn something stupid everyday--seems the nickname comes from childhood:

George was named after his grandfather, George Herbert Walker. Since George's mother called Grandfather Walker "Pop," she began calling her son, his namesake, "little Pop," or "Poppy." Hence, Poppy Bush is the name the President's family friends have called him since his youth.

Of course, the nickname proved rather ironic (grain o' salt: tinfoilish link).

Of course, Poppy had a son who was a drunk reprobate, Droppy Bush, who brought his special brand of delirium fallere to the White House. Another son became governor of Florida, hence Floppy Bush. The family doesn't talk too much of the son who digs prostitutes, Proppy Bush (also known for his savings and loan thievery as Sloppy Bush).

[Okay, okay...seems that coffee is no cure for my silliness. ]


GravatarIt's Tweety-time!


GravatarGood morning.

Did anybody post Frank Rich?


Gravatari know the feeling, Ô¿Ô. some people take personally my criticism of the clintons or other members of the DLC.
jello - carter o8


Yeah, I know. And those who defend you will be attacked, too. A popular poster was insulted last night anonymously by a reg, posting under another moniker. So people fear going against the group think.


GravatarWow, Sen. Biden's on Fox News Sunday. This is such a rarity.


GravatarThe following paragraph from Mr. Rich's column today is one of my favorite pieces of literature I've read. It reads funny, but it is not.


In the case of “civil war,” it fell to a morning television anchor, Matt Lauer, to officially bless the term before the “Today” show moved on to such regular fare as an update on the Olsen twins. That juxtaposition of Iraq and post-pubescent eroticism was only too accurate a gauge of how much the word “war” itself has been drained of its meaning in America after years of waging a war that required no shared sacrifice. Whatever you want to label what’s happening in Iraq, it has never impeded our freedom to dote on the Olsen twins.


GravatarDidn't get much here - mostly ice.

Diane - been a couple days now, and I'm still walking slow. But, the pain has subsided, although that sharp one at the blown disc is still evident if I make the wrong move.

We were at the Fruit Market yesterday - I happened to walk out onto uneven cement. That's all it took. I was done, and about screaming for my pain drugs.

I am taking it easy, but I also need to get out of the dammed house too.


Gravatarmorning barndog, my mom used to put wheat germ in my oatmeal. something about essential fatty acids.


GravatarLook if you dare. Sissies dare not click through.

Dolly Parton

If you look, don't come crying to me about not being able to finish your breakfast.

Damn. Let's all swear we'll grow old like human beings, huh?


GravatarHadley avoiding the question. Tweety letting him off the hook. Both appear worthlessly stuck to their own scripts.


Gravatar[Okay, okay...seems that coffee is no cure for my silliness. ]
Uncle Smokes


I hope that means you will continue with that silliness...I'm still giggling over that post.


GravatarAs far as the Clintons go, I've always been back and forth with them. Mostly just sick of them. Got really fucked up defending a hetero guy who couldn't keep his pants up, sick of looking at Hillary seeing her mind working at triangulation, sick of DOMA etc. But they're glaringly intelligent compared to what's in there now etc.


Gravatartimmeh on MTP pointing out what the Pres is supposedly saying now - Hadley says is asking for new approaches - is giving the lie to his pre-re-election statements.


GravatarTimmeh is the king of the set shot. Through out those creampuffs Little Russ.


GravatarThat was a yes or no question, Hadley.


GravatarHadley avoiding the question. Tweety letting him off the hook.

I'm watching Hadley with Steffy right now... is he on with Tweety as well?

Damage control is a fulltime job here at BushCo.

Hadley must be sort of hating life this weekend.


GravatarI make a gravy out of nutritional yeast and some other ingredients - used on potatos at the Wheatland Festival.

Vicki should know what I'm talking about. They are killer for munchies anytime. Some longtime friends gave me the recipe a few years ago. Thats what happens when you are a longtime volunteer. The family takes care of you.


Gravatartimmeh on MTP pointing out what the Pres is supposedly saying now - Hadley says is asking for new approaches - is giving the lie to his pre-re-election statements.
Ruth, revolted


It's Rummy's memo, all over:

“Announce that whatever new approach the U.S. decides on, the U.S. is doing so on a trial basis,” he wrote. “This will give us the ability to readjust and move to another course, if necessary, and therefore not ‘lose.’ ”

QED.


GravatarSounds like Maliki is due for a Presidential Medal of Freedom.


GravatarI'm watching Hadley with Steffy right now... is he on with Tweety as well?

Yeppers. Guess I'll be watching Face the Nation rather than This Week.


GravatarDamn. Let's all swear we'll grow old like human beings, huh?

Dolly doesn't look bad at all, slg.
Yeah, she's trying to look younger than she is, but business is business.

There are a lot of folks her age that have not aged nearly as well.


GravatarDolly Parton
...
Damn. Let's all swear we'll grow old like human beings, huh?
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11


Good lord, it's the Corpse Bride!

"The mortician did a good job. She looks so natural."


Gravatarha ha There's really nothing more that can be said about the Clintons, either pro or con at this point...


GravatarEverything I know body language tells me Hadley is playing his hand too strongly. He keeps leaning in forcefully. He has nothing and knows it. He doesn't believe a word he is saying.


GravatarI'm going to have breakfast. See you bats in awhile. Hopefully, on a new thread and all.

Peace and all that.


GravatarDolly Parton

King Tut's eyes aren't as sunken as hers.


Gravatar"The mortician did a good job. She looks so natural."
Uncle Smokes


Dolly will have to be cremated, since closing a coffin lid is out of the question.

Dolly doesn't look bad at all, slg.

Oh, billy b.... seriously? She's a beautiful woman who's fucking maimed herself.

Aieeee. We'll have to agree to disagree.


GravatarWhy does the Bayh guy remind me of Mr. Greenjeans?


GravatarHadley saying the c i c has acknowledged he was wrong.


GravatarDolly doesn't look bad at all, slg.
Yeah, she's trying to look younger than she is, but business is business.

There are a lot of folks her age that have not aged nearly as well.
billy b -blues deluxe


I agree with Billy, Steve. I was expecting much worse.

The effect that I suspect is putting you off is the over-done makeup which is a trademark of that generation of C&W women singers, along with the poufy 'big hair.'

Her neck, however, does give her away (as it does all of us older women).


GravatarWhy does the Bayh guy remind me of Mr. Greenjeans?

Pure Whitebread


GravatarThat was a yes or no question, Hadley.
Snow, Contrary


He's not on the witness stand, Snow. He's a poltician...


GravatarI love Dolly. For lots of reasons.

I learned this week that Dolly the first cloned sheep was named after Dolly Parton, becuase the cells for the cloning came from the mammary gland of the donor sheep.


GravatarOh, wait now Hadley saying -the c-i-c has acknowledged that some things have not gone the way we had hoped.


GravatarAieeee. We'll have to agree to disagree.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11


That's it. Your banned. You're not sticking with the group. Out you go.


GravatarWhy does the Bayh guy remind me of Mr. Greenjeans?
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in


I was thinking "HS Guidance Counselor".


GravatarHadley just says they went into Iraq expecting the pre-invasion Iraqi Army to provide the majority of security after the invasion.

They should all resign now.


GravatarG'mornin', all. Fear not - i'm here now, so Atrios will be proliferating threads any second.

so, what's the topic at this very moment?
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Gravatartimmeh points out Hadley as well as others say al Quaida smallest proportion of insurgency, while c-i-c says they're keeping us in iraq. Hadley - because it's true. Timmeh - what's true?


GravatarUnka Smokes! bd, Diane, billy b, incog, et al...

A good morrow to ally'all...
./


GravatarHe's not on the witness stand, Snow. He's a poltician...

Journalists, particularly the TV talking heads, could learn from deposition taking seminars. I think Tweety's performance is more the source of my frustration than Hadley.


GravatarHer neck, however, does give her away (as it does all of us older women).
Diane C. Barking-Mad


I have no issue with wattles (you do know that Nora Ephron's latest book is called "I Feel Bad About My Neck.")

And yes, I think the makeup is worse than the surgery per se.

Still...


GravatarHadley just says they went into Iraq expecting the pre-invasion Iraqi Army to provide the majority of security after the invasion.


I call bullshit. Bremmer fired them all. Remember?


Gravatarh, billy b.... seriously? She's a beautiful woman who's fucking maimed herself.

Beauty is fleeting. I've always been a big fan of Dolly due to her completely guile-less manner.

Aieeee. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Which is cool. Rock and roll.


GravatarUnka Smokes! bd, Diane, billy b, incog, et al...

No more smooches for you!
'
Morning


GravatarUnka Smokes! bd, Diane, billy b, incog, et al...

No more smooches for you!
'
Morning


GravatarI call bullshit. Bremmer fired them all. Remember?

Hadley must not have gotten that memo.


GravatarThat's it. Your banned. You're not sticking with the group. Out you go.
ql in ny


You deliver the verdict on Dolly, quiltlady.

I'll agree with whatever you decide.
:: crosses fingers ::


Gravatari'm not watching Tweety, i admit. (Never do)

But whatever happened to journalists? Before they became journamalists, the relationship between journalist and politician was assumed to be pretty antagonistic, and it was the politician more worried about pissing off the reporter.

that has flipped completely. whan did that happen? And exactly why?
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Gravatar
The effect that I suspect is putting you off is the over-done makeup which is a trademark of that generation of C&W women singers, along with the poufy 'big hair.'

Her neck, however, does give her away (as it does all of us older women).


That's exactly it, Diane.


Gravatar'Bremmer fired them all. Remember?
ql in ny '

They weren't supposed to believe him.


GravatarBeauty is fleeting. I've always been a big fan of Dolly due to her completely guile-less manner.

the second or third richest woman in the industry can hardly be thought 'guileless,' imho...
./


GravatarMorning WWG and Cynicus!

Incog, I'm wearing a $4 pair of those drugstore glasses. They are just as effective as the prescription ones I had for computer work and I won't be nearly as upset when the cats knock them off the desk and I step on them.


Gravatar
A good morrow to ally'all...


'sup Wood? You crazy old bastard.


Gravatarthat has flipped completely. whan did that happen? And exactly why?

Journalists became celebrities and then decided that was important.


GravatarI have no issue with wattles (you do know that Nora Ephron's latest book is called "I Feel Bad About My Neck.")


Henry Kissinger lets Steven Hadley suck on his wattles.


GravatarG'morning to you, Diane C.! And lucky you, that the drugstore glasses work. Such as myself, with myopia that requires the wearing of telescope lenses, have no option but paying the lens grinders their extortionate rates.
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GravatarLike I said, Hadley was lying non-stop. I doubt they remember anything before last week at this point.


GravatarI think Tweety's performance is more the source of my frustration than Hadley.
Snow, Contrary


Stop paying for cable. I did. You don't think their reps aren't at this blog knowing that y'all are watching him? Stop paying for it. It's like this British guy years ago online thought he was insulting me as an American and America for the Jerry Springer show. I reminded him that he watched and paid for it and as long as they were watching and paying, they'll keep shoveling the shit his way. I couldn't care less.


GravatarI like that Dolly now does whatever the fuck she wants to do. Her bluegrass version of "Stairway to Heaven" is great.


GravatarThe effect that I suspect is putting you off is the over-done makeup which is a trademark of that generation of C&W women singers, along with the poufy 'big hair.'

Her neck, however, does give her away (as it does all of us older women).
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Yeah, I neglected to put in a serious note that Dolly's job is to look like that.

As for the neck, I'm jealous. My lot in later life is to get jowls and a bullfroggy neck. One day I will pass for General Burkhalter.

[I am so not kidding (9th pix down). However, I have been losing weight lately--Barndog's notion of healthy gravy intrigues me greatly!]


Gravatarthat has flipped completely. whan did that happen? And exactly why?


I think it started when it stopped being just "The News", and the person relaying the News became the focus of the show. Almost ever ad on MSNBC for "Hardball" starts off with a supersize shot of Tweety's enormous melon. He's the news, not what his guests have to say. Which is why all these shows are as bogus as a football bat.


Gravatarthat has flipped completely. whan did that happen? And exactly why?

I would imagine the rise of cable TV news had something to do with the 'when'.

Wood - I'm under no illusions that Ms. Parton could give as good as she gets, I am talking about her demeanor vis-a-vis other celebrities.


GravatarStop paying for cable. I did.

I understand that sentiment but it seems like quitting to me and I cannot do that. Yet. They should be the ones to change; not us.


GravatarHadley - because it's true.

Homer Simpson - If its true, it must be ..... good.

Now Warner will attempt to define Friedman for us.


Gravatartimmeh saying to Warner about his Oct 5 saying that 2 - 3 mo's if things aren't improved, need to look at new approach. he says well the c-i-c is - so timmeh plays the c-i-c saying all is just like always ... now Levin saying wow, sounds to me like he hasn't changed


GravatarIncog, I'm wearing a $4 pair of those drugstore glasses. They are just as effective as the prescription ones I had for computer work and I won't be nearly as upset when the cats knock them off the desk and I step on them.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Yeah, I know. I just keep forgetting to pick up a pair. My brother has a pair in his van and I can read perfectly with them.


Gravatarthat has flipped completely. whan did that happen? And exactly why?
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Cynicus | 12.03.06 - 9:25 am


In the Corporate State, corporate media automatically become State Media.

this means the legitemate interests of the press in performing the watchdog role become subsumed in the corpoRat interests of profit and pandering to Officialdom...

i'd say the transition began in the corpoRat press in earnest in the aftermath of the Vietnam war, about 30 years ago,
the corpoRat press was VERY uncomfortable with the role that the media played in 'turning' the country against the war--even though there was no particular animus in the Press against the war, itself, and the press achieved their reputation mainly by reporting (fairly, in some cases) on the People's loss of faith in the effort...

and became fait acompli under the regime of the Raygun fascists...
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GravatarLike I said, Hadley was lying non-stop. I doubt they remember anything before last week at this point.

That's pretty much the subject of Frank Rich's screed today.


GravatarHadley - because it's true.

Homer Simpson - If its true, it must be ..... good.


Lily Von Schtupp - "It's twue, it's twue!"


GravatarI'm sorry Sen Levin but you are full of shit.


GravatarI am certain I cannot endure Evan Bayh's breathy sincerity for the next year. He has to go.

Oh, good... the Steffy Roundtable "coming up after the break."

I'm foolish to get my hopes up that George Will might get called on his bullshit, but that's me. A foolish old man with wattles.


GravatarUnka Smokes! bd, Diane, billy b, incog, et al...

A good morrow to ally'all...
./
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar


Right back at ya, Woody!


GravatarThey should be the ones to change; not us.
Snow, Contrary


Yeah, I know, it's sorta a dilema. I get relevent excerpts online for free. Buy movies for entertainment is more expensive than cable but I'm not paying for the shit. After ten years of the MSM bullshit and paying for it, fuck that.


GravatarWhen you wake up, get up. When you get up, do something.


GravatarOwls hang bobblehead draperies.


GravatarI get relevent excerpts online for free. Buy movies for entertainment is more expensive

I'm almost there.


Gravatardolly parton was cool for sticking her neck out and defending the dixie chicks. especially when so many in the music biz are too chickenshit to take a stand.


GravatarA foolish old man with wattles.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11 - 9:36 am


i wear and maintain my beard scrupulously long because the last time i shaved it off, i had acquired about one and a half chins under there whcih had NOT been present the previous time i essayed teh condition of my own neck...
./

and a big HOWDY to ql, ruth, irving, snow, etalia...
.


Gravatarespecially when so many in the country music biz are too chickenshit to take a stand.
jello - carter o8


Corrected your post...


GravatarHadley just says they went into Iraq expecting the pre-invasion Iraqi Army to provide the majority of security after the invasion.


I call bullshit. Bremmer fired them all. Remember?
ql in ny | Homepage | 12.03.06 - 9:23 am


Bremer fired them against advice, basically he went against Washington.
And yet, they didn't punish him.


GravatarNickelback? Sheesh! But classic Coop backed up by The Muppets - now that's entertainment...thekeez


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