I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
hi there
Rockin' around the Solstice Tree!
But I'm still blathering downstairs!
...gloat.....urp......ahhh
Hi ProfWombat!
Hi too, or three.
Drive by.
Even with the trolls, the last thread was quite interesting to read.
hey shaw: hawaya?
After that last crush, this seems so echoey.
Afternoon, bats.
I made the mistake of trying to run some errands today. Good GOD. Remind me to never shop on a weekend again.
SO INSANE RIGHT NOW.
A.
Cleaning up the wingnut propaganda gizz fest
Glenn Beck spooges "will we abandon the Iraqi People"?
Wait a sec, I thought all Muslims were bad and Christians like Beck were good...Now all of a sudden Beck cares about the Iraqis? WTF?
hey shaw: hawaya?
ProfWombat
Just made my super secret Bolognese sauce. I once read a cookbook that had 35 recipes for Bolognese sauce.
The Italians really are fanatical about it.
And I guess I am too.
It is NOT just ground beef with tomatoes. NO. NO. NO.
Wish I could have the Atriots in to taste my little secret...
I hereby claim this spot in the name of Grand Fenwick.
Wish I could have the Atriots in to taste my little secret...
Shaw Kenawe
do you call it gravy?
I wasn't even at the mall. The freaking grocery store was like a zoo.
And I don't know what I hate more: the kids throwing tantrums or the parents screaming at the kids.
A.
this thread is a fresh as a menthol cigarette!
/scampers away/
shaw: my Sicilian mother in law made wonderful sauce. Ribs, meatballs, garlic, like that. Watched her do it, wrote everything down and I still can't do it so it tastes like hers did...
Athenae - there're things I really need to go out and do this weekend, but you're reminding me why I'm not. It's Consumermas out there.
What happened to the class war troll?
SO INSANE RIGHT NOW.
A.
Athenae
People are nutsy about buying stuff no one needs to give to people no one really cares about for a holiday no one can agree on. It's a learned sickness.
I'm just cooking Bolognese sauce.
Wish I could have the Atriots in to taste my little secret...
I make mine with sun-dried tomato paste, chili peppers for a little bit of kick, and balsamic vinegar.
A.
Wish I could have the Atriots in to taste my little secret...
Shaw Kenawe
NO FLIRTING.
Wombat!!!
SO INSANE RIGHT NOW.
A.
Athenae
My new glasses are ready, but I ain't even tempted. I can wait til Monday.
Hey, goddess - we went to Mr. Tena's office party last night. Galactica is replayed here at 10, and we managed to make the last half.
I read your post on it this morning. It doesn't sound like we missed too much. But it was puzzling just the same, since we didn't know what the frak they were doing jumping in and out of that radiation loaded atmosphere.
And we didn't have any idea what the frak led Gaius and Lucy Lawless to go mess around with the Oracle (which I also don't quite get).
Did we miss anything important?
this thread is a fresh as a menthol cigarette!
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No need to scamper. I've got a light. 
Where's the troll that said the rich should be subject to ritualistic beatings?
General Snippet: I warn you, madam - I know the entire Geneva Convention by heart!
Grand Duchess Gloriana: Oh, how nice! You must recite it for me some evening; I play the harpsichord.
mena, I was supposed to go fetch our tree, but I gave up. I'll go out tomorrow before noon, when everybody's still at church.
It's my own fault. I usually grocery shop on Tuesdays, when nobody's in the store, but a series of stupid things prevented me this week and we were running out of food.
A.
From below:
Did people really BELIEVE this?
Ugh!
http://www.snopes.com/language/d...nt/
goodwife.asp
shaw: my Sicilian mother in law made wonderful sauce. Ribs, meatballs, garlic, like that. Watched her do it, wrote everything down and I still can't do it so it tastes like hers did...
ProfWombat
That sounds like the "gravy" we make in our Sicilian family. My nonna and mamma never wrote it down. But we learned by osmosis.
I hereby claim this spot in the name of Grand Fenwick.
Where's your Q-bomb? Do you have an uncanny resemblance to Peter Sellers?
goddess A: that's why i went to a museum today. every patriotic american is out worshipping baby jeebus by buying chinese plastic crap, so it was a good day to see some exhibits.
the radical in me is going to be so happy when plastic junk costs 000$ of dollars instead of pennies, after peak oil kicks in. i was just talking to a fellow blogger about it, how sick it makes me to realize how much junk we consume in this country, and for no purpose.
Where's the troll that said the rich should be subject to ritualistic beatings?
alph
Nah - they'd get off on that.
I got carpal tunnel syndrome from trying to keep up in the Titanic thread, below. But it was fun. (I laughed. I cried.) Light to moderate troll factor. No serious squabbles. All in all, a good megathread.
NEW DELHI (AFP) — Indian men's penises do not match international sizes and most condoms on sale in the country are too big, according to a medical study reported on Friday.
The Indian Council of Medical Research, the country's top health research institute, found 60% of men in Mumbai had penises at least one inch shorter than international condom sizes, The Times of India newspaper said.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/off...ze_x.htm?
csp=15
Off to market. Enjoy the fresh thread!
For 30%, the gap was two inches, said a researcher quoted in the article headlined "Indian men don't measure up".
The institute surveyed 1,400 men visiting family planning clinics across the country to conduct the "Study on proper length and breadth specification for condoms".
Peni.
But we learned by osmosis.
Onions and garlic. Sautee in olive oil. A few red pepper flakes. Deglaze with red wine. Crushed tomatoes. Salt. Pepper. At the last minute, basil.
Yeah, Mr. Tena called me on Wednesday and said he had bad vibes about waiting til the weekend to get our tree, would I please go get one.
So I did. And I'm glad we didn't wait.
/dons extra strength flame suit/
i finally figured out why i don't like BSG. the show strikes me as a metaphor/soap opera/historical inversion of the I/P situation. the cylons are like "islamofascists" with their constant prattling about god and forced, violent orthodoxy. the "colonists" are heroic representations (emphasis on re) of our modern children of the tribes. the oppression of the fleeing human population in the face of an uncaring and brutal, yet inscruciable alien enemy is like some Likudnik fantasy of the current plight of israel.
nine is hawt tho. i'd hit it.
I got carpal tunnel syndrome from trying to keep up in the Titanic thread
Keep up? There is no try! Do!
You gotta be One with the Force around here.
And I don't know what I hate more: the kids throwing tantrums or the parents screaming at the kids.
I hate the parents. The kids at least have the excuse that they're kids. The grownups, they have no excuse.
i was just talking to a fellow blogger about it, how sick it makes me to realize how much junk we consume in this country, and for no purpose.
chicago dyke
My niece, who works for the Heifer Project,
http://tinyurl.com/y7y3jp
owns one set of sheets. She told me when it needs cleaning, she washes and dries it and puts it back on the bed. Makes sense to me.
Noam Chomsky's daughter lives in Central America in, I believe, San Salvatore. I read that she doesn't have a washer or dryer or any modern convenience. He said she told him that 3/4 of the world lives like that. Why should she be more privileged?
We Americans have no idea of how luxurious our lives are.
Terry C, I can't tell you how many times my mother and her friends and my cousins and such e-mailed that thing to me after I got married.
Some of it's actually not bad advice, if you replace the pronouns with "you" and "your partner" and you both try to make home a nice place for each other, rather than one person subjugating all her needs for the other.
A.
Glenn Beck spooges "will we abandon the Iraqi People"?
He's an idiot. The vast, vast majority of the Iraqi people want us out of there right now.
From below:
Did people really BELIEVE this?
Ugh!
http://www.snopes.com/language/d...nt/ goodwife.asp
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 5:17 pm |
I think Athena hit it on the head. If it is a two way street many of the rules don't sound bad. On the other hand I am a self centered pig....... 
Shaw,
You know what I could go for? Bracciole.
G/son's here. Later, Bats!
I'm just cooking Bolognese sauce.
Shaw Kenawe
Sounds much better than pigs in a blanket with tillamook cheddar...just made it for 5 male teens.
I wasn't even at the mall. The freaking grocery store was like a zoo.
I was just there. Was nuts, too. People were generally behaving, though.
Why aren't there any crackers in this house?
And I don't know what I hate more: the kids throwing tantrums or the parents screaming at the kids.
I hate the parents. The kids at least have the excuse that they're kids. The grownups, they have no excuse.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I was in the K-Mart last year. Kid about 7 (no toddler) acting like the Mega-Brat and her mother is promising to buy her something if she behaves.
Nothing like rewarding inappropriate behavior.
Some of that advice I've learned through long and sometimes bitter experience is just good sense.
Leaving my husband alone when he first gets home, until he has a chance to take the day off of him and put it aside, is just common courtesy. I really don't know what kind of pressure he may have been under. That advice thingy is dead right about that.
Hey Shaw!
Hope you and yours are fine. We are off to California next week. My daughter is graduating grad school in Monterey and we'll be in LA for Christmas.
We will be in touch as as we get back.
Shaw,
You know what I could go for? Bracciole.
res ipsa loquitur
I made it the other night! Not with skirt steak, though. In our family we made it with ground beef. Made the ground beef up like you would make meatballs, then, put the seasoned meat on wax paper, and made it into a rectangle with our hands. Then we place hard boiled eggs, pistaccio nuts, salami, fresh basil, mozzarella cheese, raisins, whatever in the center and rolled the ground beef around it. Seared it in a pan of olive oil to seal it, then braised it in the "gravy" along with the spare ribs, meatballs and lamb shanks.
Food of the gods...
I thought all Muslims were bad and Christians like Beck were good...Now all of a sudden Beck cares about the Iraqis? WTF?
PoliShifter
Glenn Beck talks out of both sides of his face.
pigboy, truly. Mr. A and I tend to kind of trade off, whoever's having the worst day gets coddled a bit. Sometimes it's a draw. Then we order Thai food.
But I had this whole fucking freakout when we first got married about having to do things perfectly for him, just like my mother always did.
A.
Just watched an MSNBC interview by Alex (t)Witt and John Zogby.
AW: Your poll just released, indicates that only 24% of the US approves of President Bush's handling of the war in Iraq. How do you explain those numbers?
Zogby: Well, frankly, I'm stunned that they're so high.
Snap!
i finally figured out why i don't like BSG.
I won't even try to figure out what kind of Bizarro-world funhouse mirror you're watching BSG through.
Food of the gods...
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*wiping drool off sweaterfront*
We will be in touch as as we get back.
Rudy
Hey Rudy!
Buon Natale! Have a great trip. Yes. Catch us when you return.
My best to Mrs. Rudy.
".Now all of a sudden Beck cares about the Iraqis?"
He must mean the troops that have been in country so long they qualify for citizenship.
24 percent? Shit, and all 24 percent are in my immediate and much-beloved family.
*whines* Can I take some of you home for the holidays to help me argue with people?
A.
Food of the gods...
Shaw Kenawe
(Getting that ALL down)
I think the murmur to impeach Bushboy could turn into a roaring, thunderous demand if he continues to think he's "the decider" where Iraq is concerned.
And there's no way the veep creep would be left in office either!
Yay!
Just got more money for curlytech services rendered (to non-Atriots, of course -- y'all get me for FREE, y'know... right?
Back, w/beer, food and soon-to-have clean pants!
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Went to the Mall on a Saturday. Which, in the war on Christmas, is the military equivilent of throwing yourself on a grenade.
Medic!
Atrios continues to mail it in, and the atriots continue to flock.
I think the murmur to impeach Bushboy could turn into a roaring, thunderous demand if he continues to think he's "the decider" where Iraq is concerned.
And there's no way the veep creep would be left in office either!
Rudy
He needs to be removed from office because he's stark staring bonkers.
The temps are already on the way down... it was 50.0°F when I left for Sahib's, then Aldi... now 48.2°F...
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I am interested in any and all recipies for feeding male teen armies.
Thank you.
I was in the K-Mart last year. Kid about 7 (no toddler) acting like the Mega-Brat and her mother is promising to buy her something if she behaves.
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids? i swear, i see some of the most outrageous behavior in kids being rewarded just like this example all the time, and it makes no sense to me. my folks only spanked me once, but i would have never dreamed of telling them to "shut up" or demanding they buy me something in public. yet now, i see this all the time, (forgive me) particularly in white families.
really, i don't get it. i'm so glad my sister isn't that kind of parent, my nephew will be a better man for it, i have no doubt.
Atrios continues to mail it in, and the atriots continue to flock.
Just jerkin' off
But yet YOU still show up here.
What does THAT say about YOU?
Did you already know indian men had little dicks? 1400 in the sample size. Scientific.
Hello moonbats
ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan: Authoritarian leader Saparmurat Niyazov on Friday formally opened an amusement park named after him.
Niyazov, who has ruled Turkemenistan for 20 years, has created an extensive cult of personality around himself, including ordering citizens to call him Turkmenbashi, or Father of All Turkmen.
The 33-hectare (88-acre) amusement park in the capital is named "The World of Turkmenbashi Tales."
It has 54 rides including a Ferris Wheel echoing designs of Turkmen jewelry and a roller coaster swooping over a model of the Caspian Sea, the source of Turkmenistan's rich oil and gas reserves. The park also features staff dressed as Turkmen folklore characters.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/
2...idents_Park.php
And did anyone notice over at Curly's blog that the "Feed Curly" button is... no more?
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Food of the gods...
Shaw Kenawe
alright, now you're just being mean.
Glenn Beck is cut from the same cloth as Tucker Carlson and Tweety.
Smug, stupid and Gooper sycophantic.
Matt Lauer’s Cronkite Moment
Journalists believe a “Cronkite Moment” is something good, but if you know the full history of this moment for Walter Cronkite at the end of the Tet Offensive, then it’s not so good. Devotee of superficial history believes it was one of Walter’s best; however, he got it all wrong.
http://jetage.blogspot.com/2006/...ite-
moment.html
Here's a picture of the bracciole:
http://
thehungryblogger.blogspot...01_archive.html
Evening, all
Moonbootica, did you have a nice afternoon with your friend?
an excellent post worth reading Moonbase Alpha? Space and Survival.
OT, but the USPS bill that Congress passed last night will privatize part of the postal service, at least according to a friend of mine in the media who knows such things. From what I understand, one of the big beneficiaries will be Pitney Bowes.
I haven't been able to find anything online about it, but, it appears to be another one of those "under the radar" bills that we find out about further down the line.
Rudy: Glenn Beck is cut from the same cloth as Tucker Carlson and Tweety.
Smug, stupid and Gooper sycophantic.
I can prove they have no brain in their haidbones.
Consider this: They've practically lived up Chimpy's ass for the last five years. The human brain can only go without oxygen for ten minutes before death occurs.
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Terry C.
Bushboy has always been a menace, but allowing the fool to steal the WH and implement his dangerous delusions, will cost America for decades to come!
And did anyone notice over at Curly's blog that the "Feed Curly" button is... no more?
I'm so glad things have turned around.
Moonbootica, did you have a nice afternoon with your friend?
mer | 12.09.06 - 5:36 pm | #
yeah, was good
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids? i swear, i see some of the most outrageous behavior in kids being rewarded just like this example all the time, and it makes no sense to me. my folks only spanked me once, but i would have never dreamed of telling them to "shut up" or demanding they buy me something in public. yet now, i see this all the time, (forgive me) particularly in white families.
really, i don't get it. i'm so glad my sister isn't that kind of parent, my nephew will be a better man for it, i have no doubt.
chicago dyke
chi: I said the sales clerk in the area "I would have gotten my ass whupped had I acted like that."
She said "You and me both!"
well Blak, i thought i explained it. or am i missing some part of the basic storyline? i've seen enough of it (the whole first two season, thanks to sis) and i've been a fan of the writers for many years. but the overall narrative just never sat well with me, and as i said, i finally grok why that is. it's TV, feel free to love whatever you want, i'm not judging, just saying why i don't worship it.
And did anyone notice over at Curly's blog that the "Feed Curly" button is... no more?
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aw, Jeffra. I'll drink one with you to that, my dear.
The 2 Minute Gloat will commence... now!
Gloat Gloat Gloaty Gloat Gloat!
The human brain can only go without oxygen for ten minutes before death occurs.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
You proved the point to a scientific certainty in my book!!!
Terry C.
Bushboy has always been a menace, but allowing the fool to steal the WH and implement his dangerous delusions, will cost America for decades to come!
Rudy
Oh, I know it will!
The people still carrying water for him should be ashamed of themselves.
ql in ny
Congrats on your new house. Very exciting for the New Year!
chi dyke, I asked my mother once if she took me shopping when I was little, because I honestly couldn't remember being in stores with her as a child. She said hell no, I waited for your dad to come home and then I went out by myself.
Which is a pretty good system, assuming there's two parents in the equation and they don't mind shopping alone.
A.
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids? i swear, i see some of the most outrageous behavior in kids being rewarded just like this example all the time, and it makes no sense to me. my folks only spanked me once, but i would have never dreamed of telling them to "shut up" or demanding they buy me something in public. yet now, i see this all the time, (forgive me) particularly in white families.
really, i don't get it. i'm so glad my sister isn't that kind of parent, my nephew will be a better man for it, i have no doubt.
chicago dyke
here in Britain there was arguments going back and forth about whether to ban smacking last year I believe.
the government did eventually pass a law against smacking in public I seem to recall.
here in Britain there was arguments going back and forth about whether to ban smacking last year I believe.
the government did eventually pass a law against smacking in public I seem to recall.
Oh, and chi?
As for kids telling parents to shut up?
I would not have dared!
And my own kids (22 or 25) wouldn't even try it now.
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids? i swear, i see some of the most outrageous behavior in kids being rewarded just like this example all the time, and it makes no sense to me. my folks only spanked me once, but i would have never dreamed of telling them to "shut up" or demanding they buy me something in public. yet now, i see this all the time, (forgive me) particularly in white families.
really, i don't get it. i'm so glad my sister isn't that kind of parent, my nephew will be a better man for it, i have no doubt.
chicago dyke
Three words: No Home Training! Our generation knew the boundaries.
pigboy, truly. Mr. A and I tend to kind of trade off, whoever's having the worst day gets coddled a bit. Sometimes it's a draw. Then we order Thai food.
But I had this whole fucking freakout when we first got married about having to do things perfectly for him, just like my mother always did.
A.
Athenae | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 5:29 pm | #
I love those 'rules and regulations' we set for ourselves. Somehow believeing there really was a Beaver Cleaver family. If you want to see how families behave the cameras have to be hidden and there can't be any company around visiting. Some families go for the Thai food others go for the throat.
You go for what comes natural. Which in some cases is pretty fucked. I'm just glad this is 2006 instead of 1956. Back then you were on your own and family secrets insured an ongoing fucked life.
Jeffraham Prestonian
MWAH
chid- I think a lot of it has to do with guilt. Since both parents are working, they feel they need to make up for the lost time with the kids. I also think a lot of parents are afraid if they discipline, that their kids won't like them. I saw it go so far as one little girl had matted hair because she screamed every time her mom tried to wash it. Really, it looked like she was going to have to have it shaved off.
I always tried to give in on certain things, but others there was just no argument allowed. Like being clean.
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids? i swear, i see some of the most outrageous behavior in kids being rewarded just like this example all the time, and it makes no sense to me.
Tell me about it!
The problem, as nearly as I can tell, is that "parents" somehow have decided that they want to be friends with their kids rather than their traditional roles as mentors.
I see it every day and it sickens me. I am not much in favor of whuppin someone but there are ways of increasing the discomfort level that do not involve threats or violence.
But when you have babies having babies, what do you expect?
Being the youngest, I was spoiled rotten as a child. But I would never have dreamed of telling *any* adult to "shut up" even in private, completely aside from ordering my parents to in a public venue.
What bugs me is when parents don't tell their little children to straighten up & fly right, they *ask* them to. "Madison, Mommy wants you to stop doing that, okayyyy? Do you want to stop that for Mommy, please, Maddy?"
Hell. Let me rephrase that. "Madison, cut that out."
here in Britain there was arguments going back and forth about whether to ban smacking last year I believe.
the government did eventually pass a law against smacking in public I seem to recall.
Moonbootica, Screamadelica
I'm not for beating the shit out of a kid.
I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I hit either of mine.
That said, a slap on the ass never hurt anyone.
What is considered acceptable "smacking" or "paddling"?
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids? i swear, i see some of the most outrageous behavior in kids being rewarded just like this example all the time, and it makes no sense to me. my folks only spanked me once, but i would have never dreamed of telling them to "shut up" or demanding they buy me something in public. yet now, i see this all the time, (forgive me) particularly in white families.
Here comes one of those "when I was a kid" stories, but seriously. When I was a kid we got toys on our birthday and at Christmas. Period. My parents didn't go shopping for us when they took us to stores. We got clothes for the beginning of the school year, at Christmas, and for Easter. There was never this endless buying for us. We were not poor. We were middle class, owned our own home in a Boston suburb and ate very, very well.
QL - Happy new house! When do you occupy? Is it all to your expectation - plumbing, heating, watering, all that? Painting to do?
What bugs me is when parents don't tell their little children to straighten up & fly right, they *ask* them to. "Madison, Mommy wants you to stop doing that, okayyyy? Do you want to stop that for Mommy, please, Maddy?"
Hell. Let me rephrase that. "Madison, cut that out."
strawhat
Exactly!
I also think a lot of parents are afraid if they discipline, that their kids won't like them.
I don't need my child to like me (sometimes I don't like him). However, he will respect what I say. He already knows he'll get a kidney punch if he acts up in public.
Wish I could have the Atriots in to taste my little secret...
Shaw Kenawe
do you call it gravy?
Jim
I think it's bologna gravy.
Iraq: Prison guards are springing members of the al-Tikriti Saddam Hussein) clan.
what is it about today's parents, that they don't know how to properly discipline their kids?
I think it's partly the popular psychological advice, too, which pretty much argues that you don't ever discipline a child. I've read a lot about this on various websites, too. The idea is to reason a toddler out of a temper tantrum. It doesn't work.
hah the youth of Britain are scary according to the tabloids!
but not as scary as Muslims.
Here comes one of those "when I was a kid" stories, but seriously. When I was a kid we got toys on our birthday and at Christmas. Period. My parents didn't go shopping for us when they took us to stores. We got clothes for the beginning of the school year, at Christmas, and for Easter. There was never this endless buying for us. We were not poor. We were middle class, owned our own home in a Boston suburb and ate very, very well.
Shaw Kenawe
There was none of this shit of camping overnight outside a store for some "must have" toy.
You didn't "need" it.
I had a feeling that coming here right now would be a bad idea. Good day.
Damn, I had the answer for you CD but Hell O Scam is eating it.
Three things: children are having babies way too young.
These "parents" want to be friends rather than mentors.
The general alienation and deprivation of moral values that permeates our society is maninfesting itself at the weakest link.
QL - Happy new house! When do you occupy? Is it all to your expectation - plumbing, heating, watering, all that? Painting to do?
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Alas, we don't move until May. Everything is all painted white, just like I like it. Unfortunately, there is also white carpeting throughout. thank goodness there are no litttle qls running around.
QL - Happy new house! When do you occupy? Is it all to your expectation - plumbing, heating, watering, all that? Painting to do?
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Alas, we don't move until May. Everything is all painted white, just like I like it. Unfortunately, there is also white carpeting throughout. thank goodness there are no litttle qls running around.
The idea is to reason a toddler out of a temper tantrum. It doesn't work.
Echidne of the snakes
"Time out!"
You know though I have seen small children give the most shocked looked to kids who are behaving badly.
He already knows he'll get a kidney punch if he acts up in public.
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There was a time in my life I would not have found that funny. That time was pre-Viking Spawn. 
this thread is a fresh as a menthol cigarette!
/scampers away/
chicago dyke
Wait! I've got light AND one of those "funny" cigarettes. Then I'm gonna sit and people watch.
i do think one should not get into rose tinted territory where 'everything was so much better'.
The Tet Offensive occurred in late January of 1968 and the Vietcong were decimated. But by 1972 they were back to full strength and the ARVN were as corrupt and inept as ever.
America lost over 60,000 troops and an estimated 2 to 3 million southeast asians died.
What Cronkite got right was that the US government had been lying for years and that they had lost their credibility.
Then along came Nixon with his "secret plan" to end the war. Turned out bombing everything in sight wasn't so secret and it wasn't much of a plan!
Three things: children are having babies way too young.
These "parents" want to be friends rather than mentors.
The general alienation and deprivation of moral values that permeates our society is maninfesting itself at the weakest link.
DWD -Dirty Fucking Hippy
Was never interested in being a "friend" to my kids when they were little. I was the parent.
BUT, my daughter tells me that I am her best friend.
I had a feeling that coming here right now would be a bad idea. Good day.
Why do you say that? We're not talking about beating a kid with a belt. We believe that parent these days are a little lax with their children and should take more proactive measures in discipling them.
Unfortunately, there is also white carpeting throughout. thank goodness there are no litttle qls running around.
ql in ny
Well, your kitty is black, so she'll be easy to find!
"America lost over 60,000 troops and an estimated 2 to 3 million southeast asians died."
Bush is trying to surpass those numbers before he leaves office, IMHO.
My guys are 15 mo apart and were normal, very active toddlers. When they were about 2 & 3, we were at the grocery store with a full cart. They both kept bugging me for stuff the whole time and as we reached check-out, they both melted down. I picked them both up, abandoned the cart, and we sat in the car for several min.
I refused to move, get out, or do anything until they calmed the heck down. They were shocked. I wasn't going to put up with their shit for one second and was willing to abandon mission. We went back inside and they were charming.
I dunno. I'd rather be entertained by an undisciplined child with mom and dad begging for good behavior.
Geez, I was in a department store once when a dad was disciplining his child cruelly as the mom stood by. I went to the ladies room and cried my eyes out. The dad was a big bruiser, I was afraid that the child would be punished even more severely if I had intervened.
That time was pre-Viking Spawn.
Isn't it amazing how having children will change your world view?
Was never interested in being a "friend" to my kids when they were little. I was the parent.
BUT, my daughter tells me that I am her best friend.
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 5:46 pm | #
Bingo. That and the child is a 'part' of the family not the center of the family. Families well being should not be hinged on approval of a child. Too much on the kid, too little on the parent
You know though I have seen small children give the most shocked looked to kids who are behaving badly.
pigboy
Mine did.
And so did my siblings and I.
Ok, it seems to me that all of society is much more geared toward children than it used to be. It used to be an adult's world. Somewhere along the way, that shifted.
I'm not sure how that got managed.
When I was little my parents were broke. So I had a totally different view of money than my sister, who never knew them as anything other than affluent. I'm much more paranoid than she is about buying things, especially big things. I keep waiting for the world to cave in.
A.
Was never interested in being a "friend" to my kids when they were little. I was the parent.
BUT, my daughter tells me that I am her best friend.
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 5:46 pm | #
Bingo. That and the child is a 'part' of the family not the center of the family. Families well being should not be hinged on approval of a child. Too much on the kid, too little on the parent
pigboy
My kids thank me now.
Sounds much better than pigs in a blanket with tillamook cheddar...just made it for 5 male teens.
ErinPDX
Now that there is good eatin'!
QL - will you keep the white carpets? I'll send you a cigarette-holdder for a housewarming present.
Britain has been given titles such as
Binge Drinking Capital Of Europe
Most Fraud
Violent Youths
yeah thats us!
i blame consumerism. we were just talking about how the GI bill propelled a whole generation into the middle class. the kids in those households were taught that acquiring material goods was a sign of "success," and many grew up to be the upper middle class types we have today. they engendered a similar belief in their kids, and at the same time, the economy had changed enough such that every cracker in a trailer could buy plastic junk to show how "successful" they were. kids today have no idea, nor do they care, where such trinkets come from, or what they do and do not mean. consumption: it's what they're taught from birth, and the only way in which validation is acheived.
...of course, i don't really mean this for everyone in this country, but far too many.
Terry C: There was none of this shit of camping overnight outside a store for some "must have" toy.
You didn't "need" it.
I remember in 3rd Grade, asking for a microscope for Christmas. I felt guilty, 'cause in 1970, this thing was like $11.00 (it wasn't a lab quality scope, obviously... but plenty neat-o for a 9 y.o.), and that was like 13 weeks' of allowance for me. Dad gave us a dime per week for every year old we were.
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Geez, I was in a department store once when a dad was disciplining his child cruelly as the mom stood by. I went to the ladies room and cried my eyes out. The dad was a big bruiser, I was afraid that the child would be punished even more severely if I had intervened.
Nur al-cubicle
That, I do not care for.
I'm not sure how that got managed.
Tena
I'll take a wild stab at it, and guess that big money had a hand in it.
heh i'm hopeless with money.
There's no need to be horrible to the child and goddess knows I know some families who seem to me to be overstrict to the point of killing the child's individuality. But there's also no need to go to the other extreme where the child believes other people have no rights at all.
this thread is a fresh as a menthol cigarette!
/scampers away/
chicago dyke |
Hmmmmm. Smoke two, one for me.
I didn't involve adults in my activities when I was a kid. I had my own world. My friends were all up in every fucking thing their kids did every second, and some still are. One of my friends is still writing papers for her kid who is in college.
She micromanaged her kids every moment, including doing their homework for them and driving their teachers crazy. I feel damn sorry for teachers these days.
My deal at department stores as a little cherub was to immediately separate myself from the folks, hide in those circular clothes racks, and yell boo to shoppers sifting through the merchandise.
Geez, I was in a department store once when a dad was disciplining his child cruelly as the mom stood by. I went to the ladies room and cried my eyes out. The dad was a big bruiser, I was afraid that the child would be punished even more severely if I had intervened.
I had to leave Target once because a mom was screaming — SCREAMING — at her child. You're horrible, you're a terrible girl, etc. I don't know what the kid had done or what mom had going on, so I can't say ... but hearing it was godawful.
A.
Isn't it amazing how having children will change your world view?
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
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There were going to be absolutely no war toys in my house. And for damn sure no video games.
I had a feeling that coming here right now would be a bad idea. Good day.
Why do you say that? We're not talking about beating a kid with a belt. We believe that parent these days are a little lax with their children and should take more proactive measures in discipling them.
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
We're not in James Dobson or Lisa Whelchel territory here.
One of my friends is still writing papers for her kid who is in college.
That's ridiculous! How is this kid going to function in the real world?
my Aunty B heavily involved herself in her children's lives, going so far as to insist they move in the same street as she.
always having to get one up on my Aunty Shelia with their respective kids.
my mum was largely left out of this rivalry due to being the youngest.
though of late my Aunty B has been quiet.
when I was nine, I got a .25 a wk for an allowance. Then the old man would take me to the hallway & shoot me craps for it. I went to work @ earily age & I refuse to even bet on a ballgame.
She micromanaged her kids every moment, including doing their homework for them and driving their teachers crazy. I feel damn sorry for teachers these days.
Tena
I loved when George Carlin got on the whole "play date" thing.
There were going to be absolutely no war toys in my house. And for damn sure no video games.
mena
I was afraid that the child would be punished even more severely if I had intervened.
I was in that situation once. But there was a cop about half a block away. I asked him to intervene and he did. I hope he put the fear of god into that father.
i'm sorry blak, i wasn't trying to piss you off. you're one of my very favs around here, sorry to hear you're having an off day. i will refrain from bashing BSG in the future.
My deal at department stores as a little cherub was to immediately separate myself from the folks, hide in those circular clothes racks, and yell boo to shoppers sifting through the merchandise.
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That was my son's deal too. Then came the lingerie department stage.
One of my friends is still writing papers for her kid who is in college.
That's ridiculous! How is this kid going to function in the real world?
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
See: Bush, George W.
That's ridiculous! How is this kid going to function in the real world?
Monica_A:
She'll marry her college boyfriend. They already have it planned.
kids today have no idea, nor do they care, where such trinkets come from, or what they do and do not mean. consumption: it's what they're taught from birth, and the only way in which validation is acheived.
I had a teen tell me to keep her .63 cents change yesterday. Okay.
I was in line at the store not long ago behind a mommy & toddler boy, maybe 2, both very nice-looking suburban volvo-driving whale-saving yuppie types, you know the type. And the little fella was interested in the candy display right there at the checkout, and Mom told him no, and he calmly said "shut up." Now he was too little to know that this was a very bad thing to say to his mother, so I'm not blaming him, mind. He must have heard it at daycare.
And the mother got this appalled look on her face, and said in her soft refined voice, "Aidan, I can't believe you said that. That's not a nice thing to say to your mother. (turned to me) Don't you agree? That's not a nice thing for someone to say to their mother, is it?" And I spoke up in the same soft voice, "Oh, no. That's not a nice thing to say to anybody. I'm surprised such a nice boy said such a thing." And mom & I nodded at each other.
And the little fella looked back and forth between the two of us with eyes as big as saucers. He didn't cry, but you can tell he realized he'd said something wrong.
A little toddler-teaching theater right there in the checkout line.
One of my friends is still writing papers for her kid who is in college.
That's ridiculous! How is this kid going to function in the real world?
Grate!
Isn't she a dollbaby? And just the right age for me, too. 30.
And, she just put up Mia's badge.
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And the little fella looked back and forth between the two of us with eyes as big as saucers. He didn't cry, but you can tell he realized he'd said something wrong.
A little toddler-teaching theater right there in the checkout line.
strawhat
She knew her stuff, that mother!
Supermarkets are assholes for the candy display at checkout. It's deliberate.
when i was at home and my brother was too, he owned all 3 consoles (X-box, Gamecube and PS2), so when I wasn't doing schoolwork or on the net I would usually be playing on one of those
during my GCSEs, my friend would come round to my house almost everday and we would take turns completing missions on GTa3 (and revising but GCSE's are dead easy compared to AS/A Levels) .
I almost completed FF7 and I lost the memory card, it just vanished when my mother moved the PS2 into the dining room, I was gutted.
Parents these days spend too much time chasing their own greedy indulgences as if they are more meaningful then the proper upbringing of their children.
But you all are abusers.
My mother said I was a well-behaved child, and she has no idea what happened later.
My reply: "Genetics".
the proper upbringing of their children.
Define "proper upbringing"
One of my friends is still writing papers for her kid who is in college.
That's ridiculous! How is this kid going to function in the real world?
Grate!
auggy's mom
I smell troll shit.
I was in the K-Mart last year. Kid about 7 (no toddler) acting like the Mega-Brat and her mother is promising to buy her something if she behaves.
Nothing like rewarding inappropriate behavior.
Terry C, American Once Again
Future president?
I was at the park once and a little boy was pestering his mother (not egregiously, but he was going on about it) for ice cream from the truck. And his mother bent down and said, "If you can give me three reasons why you should have an ice cream I'll get you one."
The kid was totally stumped. I just about died laughing.
A.
Stores didn't seem as claustrophobically crowded back then as they do now. Maybe they were, I just didn't notice it.
Supermarkets are assholes for the candy display at checkout. It's deliberate.
Nur al-cubicle
Well, yeah. It's where they separate the mom's from the mothers.
Bingo. That and the child is a 'part' of the family not the center of the family. Families well being should not be hinged on approval of a child. Too much on the kid, too little on the parent
pigboy
My kids thank me now.
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 5:49 pm | #
Their kids will thank them too. Raising kids really is hard work and you really can tell the diffrence between parents who take the time to do it and parents who chose to belittle and hit their kids.
But you all are abusers.
A richness of comedy!
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the proper upbringing of their children.
Define "proper upbringing"
JR, kerosene and a match
Anyone who DOESN'T turn out like the sockpuppet.
Supermarkets are assholes for the candy display at checkout. It's deliberate.
Nur al-cubicle
Here every store has at least one candy-free checkout.
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These denfine proper upbringing.
She'll marry her college boyfriend. They already have it planned.
Good luck with that! Is mommy going to come over a keep house?
"One of my friends is still writing papers for her kid who is in college."
when i worked in the college library i had to explain what the card catalog was all the time. it amazed me that kids could get thru elementary, jr and sr highs and not have the foggiest idea what it was or how to use it.
Supermarkets are assholes for the candy display at checkout. It's deliberate.
Nur al-cubicle
Yeppers.
But I must admit, it works on adults, too.
They know what they're doing.
Stores didn't seem as claustrophobically crowded back then as they do now. Maybe they were, I just didn't notice it.
Max Planck
My local supermarket was like that. Stuff stacked in the aisles, etc.
A few months back, they bought two vacant stores next to them and built out.
Much, much better!
Here every store has at least one candy-free checkout.
Yeah, just one.
If I ever saw a woman kidney puch a child, I'd kidney punch her.
I'm not even going to bother typing out gigglies for auggy'smom. Tena and I are sharing a brain today.
Raising kids really is hard work
Especially in the U.S.. There is a difference depending on how much social support one has and how much in agreement the immediate environment is about values.
Okay, here's my pitch for Alice Miller's book, 'For Your Own Good, hidden cruelities in childhood rearing'. It's great and really depressing.
I had to leave Target once because a mom was screaming — SCREAMING — at her child. You're horrible, you're a terrible girl, etc.
i called the cops on a couple of women doing that to a little girl, while standing in front of my building. she was crying, and i just couldn't take it after about 30min. i walked out to them and said, "take it inside, or i'll call the cops." and they prattled about how i needed to mind my own business etc.
as i said, i got spanked like once in my whole childhood. i honestly don't understand how two screwups like my folks were at that age could easily walk the line between discipline and indulgence while today's parents can't.
i must go and love some pussy for a while. bbl.
consumption: it's what they're taught from birth, and the only way in which validation is acheived.
IIRC, it seemed to happen at about the time the American public started being referred to as "consumers" rather than "citizens."
Raising kids really is hard work
Raising them properly can be shitty at times while doing it, but pays huge dividends later on.
i was quite stroppy during my first year at infant school, didn't calm down till my second year.
I'd like to think I was a well behaved child, never got up to anything rebellious or naughty.
pretty much a nerdy/geek/shy/unsporty/ girl at school (I would not want to relive my comprehensive school days one fucking bit).
always home for dinner, invited every year to my next door neighbour's birthday party.
But I must admit, it works on adults, too.
They know what they're doing.
Tena
C-h-o-c-o-l-a-t-e.
These denfine proper upbringing.
annieangel
Yeah, thats how Annie would "rear" her kids
when i worked in the college library i had to explain what the card catalog was all the time.
What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade.
Here every store has at least one candy-free checkout.
I'd eat such fewer S'mores bars if we had those.
Fucking marshmallow filling. Yummy.
A.
What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade.
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
Me, too.
Good luck with that! Is mommy going to come over a keep house?
Monica_A:
I hope not. She's not that meticulous in that area.
i was never grounded and rarely got a detention.
was always polite to the teachers.
Irving R. Feldman | 12.09.06 - 6:02 pm | #
Damn straight.
Geez, I was in a department store once when a dad was disciplining his child cruelly as the mom stood by. I went to the ladies room and cried my eyes out. The dad was a big bruiser, I was afraid that the child would be punished even more severely if I had intervened.
One of the very nicest things about Albuquerque was the way in which all children belonged to all adults. It was far from uncommon to see Papas taking care of little ones, by themselves. It was ordinary to see, for example, when a little one was acting up at the store, a Grandmama (any Grandmama) taking control and making sure that the little one settled down and behaved properly. The same rules applied to middle sized people - I saw teenagers being chastised and -taking it- by strange elders who, without so much as taking a breath, took action to bring up the young properly. You could be handed somebody's baby whilst they did something else, not knowing them at all, and because you were big and grownup, you behaved accordingly. It was very satisfying. It wasn't that everybody, every time, every way carried the responsibilty - but there was strikingly little reluctance on most people's part to belly up to the barre and do right.
These denfine proper upbringing.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 5:59 pm | #
yeah they do, if you want a totally fucked up child and a totally disfuntional adult.
i must go and love some pussy for a while. bbl.
You have no idea of the image that flashed through my mind. Thank goodness for Thumbsnap.
My deal at department stores as a little cherub was to immediately separate myself from the folks, hide in those circular clothes racks, and yell boo to shoppers sifting through the merchandise.
I went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, "There is no toilet paper in here!"
C-h-o-c-o-l-a-t-e.
Terry C
I-M-P-U-L-S-E.
What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade.
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
I clearly remember our elementary school librarian teaching us how to whisper correctly.
Once they were being so bad, not wanting to go to bed, that I actually did want to spank them. Instead, I put myself on time out in my bedroom. After a few minutes they quieted down, came in and tapped me on the shoulder, "mommy, are you alright?" Damn it was effective and totally nonviolent.
Raising kids really is hard work
Especially in the U.S.. There is a difference depending on how much social support one has and how much in agreement the immediate environment is about values.
Echidne of the snakes
Then you have the divorce rate.
Or just guys who think taking care of the kids is "women's work."
"What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade."
i shit you not. it was across gender and economic lines, public schools and private. amazing.
No, I want a kid who calls himself PIGBOY.
If the ideals in my articles upset you, it's because you were raised as trash, by trash.
What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade.
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
Our poor elderly elementary school librarian tried to teach us the Dewey Decimal System. We just weren't buying it at the time.
A very kind soul. She didn't deserve the static.
my family almost feels like a timewarp growing up, mum a housewife and dad the breadwinner.
with all the trappings of a middle class lifestyle.
both my parents never got a chance to go to university as they failed their 11 plus.
yeah they do, if you want a totally fucked up child and a totally dysfuntional adult.
pigboy
Well, consider who you're talking to.
Can't even spell "define."
Taking care of the kids IS women's work. Discipline is men's work.
Time for dinner. Be good to each other.
I am an expert on this subject.
I was a polite, quiet child, but very independent. Generally I got the adults trained pretty quickly. If they left me to my own devices wouldn't be a problem... I'd probably be in the corner with a book.
Rock on.
Speaking of which. I raided the album(vinyl)shelves today for background music while I worked.
Here they are from memory:
The Band-Anthology
Rolling Stones-More Hot Rocks
Bob Dylan-Greatest Hits
Jethro Tull-Best of
Fleetwood Mac-Tusk
Cat Stevens-Teaser & The Fire Cat
There was a few more but can't remember at the moment.
I know, nothing obscure there.
Taking care of the kids IS women's work. Discipline is men's work.
annieangel
Anyone want to state the obvious?
But to return to the question of how to behave in a store and similar places, maybe part of the education of a child should be to make sure that the child knows how to be a good neighbor/citizen/member of community. What kinds of behavior are unacceptable etc.
I think someone wants a spanking
What a surprise, the child abusers are rejoicing in their common abusive status.
Nice job, libs.
when i worked in the college library i had to explain what the card catalog was all the time. it amazed me that kids could get thru elementary, jr and sr highs and not have the foggiest idea what it was or how to use it.
jdw
Betcha Bush STILL doesn't.
And he married a librarian.
No, I want a kid who calls himself PIGBOY.
If the ideals in my articles upset you, it's because you were raised as trash, by trash.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:05 pm | #
Actually I was raised in one of your good Christian families following your good Christian rules. So in a sense you are right. On the other hand they were victims of some pretty fucked up rules. Like yourself.
Dr. B - hell these days I'm half afraid to smile at strange babies and children in stores and elsewhere. I'm scared someone will freak and think I'm a kidnapper or something.
How many years now has the local news been all about scary children-being-hurt stories?
You never see one sockpuppet without the other making an appearance soon afterwards.
jdw: "What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade."
i shit you not. it was across gender and economic lines, public schools and private. amazing.
We had that, too, but not until high school. I liked it so much I became the library's a/v geek (and computer guy, although there wasn't much in the way of H.S. computing resources even in affluent Ashland, KY, in the '78-'81 time frame).
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Richard has been namestealing you.
What kinds of behavior are unacceptable etc.
O I think so.
"i was never grounded and rarely got a detention."
i got put in the corner on my very first day of kindergarden. this was no reflection on my parents, who taught us to respect adults.
i dunno what got into me. we were in story circle and i was talking. the teacher told me to keep quiet and i told her 'no'. she picked me up by an arm, threw me in a little chair and pushed us both across the room at a high rate of speed until we reached the corner, where she dumped me like a front end loader.
there was this one kid she constantly put in a closet.
latyer in life i found out she was an alcoholic. little wonder i guess.
I was a polite, quiet child, but very independent. Generally I got the adults trained pretty quickly. If they left me to my own devices wouldn't be a problem... I'd probably be in the corner with a book.
JR, kerosene and a match
I was a reader from an early age, too,
My 15 months younger sister was the athlete.
If the ideals in my articles upset you, it's because
... it's so unlikely that you could be shot by any of us, and we be able to beat the fucking rap for it.
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What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade.
Monica_A: Porn Connoisseur
My Mummy, the childrens librarian, thanks you for your attention.
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Pigboy, you display no characteristics of a person who was brought up in a decent home.
I noticed that, Miss Annie. His infatuation is starting to teeter off into something far more serious and dangerous. I think he should seek psychiatric help immediately.
Dr. B - hell these days I'm half afraid to smile at strange babies and children in stores and elsewhere. I'm scared someone will freak and think I'm a kidnapper or something.
How many years now has the local news been all about scary children-being-hurt stories?
Tena
Shame you have the freaks making it bad for people who genuinely like being around children and who have no evil designs on them.
Taking care of the kids IS women's work. Discipline is men's work.
annieangel
You cannot imagine the word 'terror' you just cannot. That was the word we used under those rules. Nothing good ever came of those unbending, unforgiving, rules. Who ever made them up should burn in your christian hell.
Dr. B - hell these days I'm half afraid to smile at strange babies and children in stores and elsewhere. I'm scared someone will freak and think I'm a kidnapper or something.
I know. That's why it is so very nice to see it work the other way.
"the teacher told me to keep quiet and i told her 'no'. she picked me up by an arm, threw me in a little chair and pushed us both across the room at a high rate of speed until we reached the corner, where she dumped me like a front end loader.
there was this one kid she constantly put in a closet.'
Sounds like some of the nuns that I had.
Arthur is sitting at the side of the pool, watching the sun start to go down....
Charmant....
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That study of Indian men's penises was a revelation. What does this tell us about the worldwide dynamics of dick size? Doesn't this indicate the big dick is rarer than previously thought?
Wow, Richard is brave tonight! I bet his dick is so big that it could almost qualify for small in India!
Market anarchism as stigmergic socialism
"Sounds like some of the nuns that I had."
isn't it funny i remembner that? i was 5 years old, and it's clear as a bell...
Doesn't this indicate the big dick is rarer than previously thought?
Very rare. The footprints are sometimes seen in the Himalayas.
... it's so unlikely that you could be shot by any of us, and we be able to beat the fucking rap for it.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Not as unlikely as all that.
We teachers are told quite explicitly anymore to not touch our students at all. Less explicitly that this is about fear of liability. It's absurd, students come up to me to hug me. We're a very confused culture when it comes to children.
Pigboy, there is nothing terrifying in any of the rules I lay out.
Your post is just more proof that you weren't brought up right.
"Sounds like some of the nuns that I had."
I was 25 when I saw my first live nun.
Just shows how different backgrounds we may have.
Draft the Twins™
there is a Convent opposite my house.
What? I had a class in elementary school called "library". We knew the inner workings of library by the time we reached 4th grade.
Monica_A
Mr. Chang was our librarian/library teacher. A wonderful soul who did not deserve the treatment we gave him.
What's the household chore you hate the most? Mine is bill paying, because it's a routine job that doesn't let me think about something else while doing it.
I'm trying not to pay bills right now.
But to return to the question of how to behave in a store and similar places, maybe part of the education of a child should be to make sure that the child knows how to be a good neighbor/citizen/member of community. What kinds of behavior are unacceptable etc.
Echidne of the snakes
Unfortunately, most wingers never got that training.
Which is a pretty good system, assuming there's two parents in the equation and they don't mind shopping alone.
A.
Athenae
Children should have leashes.
Seriously. Leaves both mom's hands free and allows the tyke a bit of freedom (not to mention not having one arm stretched), while keeping the kid out of trouble.
Pigboy, you display no characteristics of a person who was brought up in a decent home.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:09 pm | #
and you call this decent?
"Wow, Richard is brave tonight! I bet his dick is so big that it could almost qualify for small in India!
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:13 pm | # "
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The high and mighty who have all the answers and are experts at this and that and who are always into other peoples business have no clue about how obsene they truly are.
I know. That's why it is so very nice to see it work the other way.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Yeah.
"Sounds like some of the nuns that I had."
I was 25 when I saw my first live nun.
Just shows how different backgrounds we may have.
Echidne of the snakes
Eight years of Catholic grade school.
Only two "civilian" teachers.
My daughter went through nine years of Catholic grade school, including kindergarten. Not one nun.
Anyone want to state the obvious?
Monica_A
Do you mean the sheer idiocy of that as a (w)hole, or the particulars?
I refused to move, get out, or do anything until they calmed the heck down. They were shocked. I wasn't going to put up with their shit for one second and was willing to abandon mission. We went back inside and they were charming.
ErinPDX
I did exactly the same thing one time with each of mine. Worked like a charm. I really don't believe in hitting kids. But the first time they ran in the street they got a swift swat on the bottom. Because it was so rare, it is was quite effective.
Richard has been namestealing Shoe and trolling his AC articles. Richard is scum, he is garbage and he should be locked up before he hurts someone.
he should be locked up before he hurts someone.
annieangel
hey, moppet, do your "friends" know about you threatening me with them?
President Bush came out swinging today, criticizing anyone who trash talked his conduct of the war. This was the old President Bush, back in fighting form, the one that his base and the majority of the nation loved so much in 2001 and will again. The only option in Iraq is victory and with President George W Bush's steady hand at the helm, we will win the ultimate victory.
Oh, Jr called me an idiot. He's sad I had no interest in meeting him. 
QL - will you keep the white carpets? I'll send you a cigarette-holdder for a housewarming present.
mena
We'll keep it for a little while. A cigarette holder would be divine, dahlink!
What kinds of behavior are unacceptable etc.
Echidne of the snakes
Including having 17 children. I know I always bring up the Duggars, but Jesus never directed couples to populate small towns by themselves.
I believe it to be the height of completely abdicating social responsibility.
President Bush came out swinging today
... as he polished more knobs on the Titanic.
THANKS FOR 2006, LOSERS!
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red white and tool
About time he came out.
Including having 17 children. I know I always bring up the Duggars, but Jesus never directed couples to populate small towns by themselves.
I believe it to be the height of completely abdicating social responsibility.
Max Planck
How about the fundies taking fertility drugs and having LITTERS?
The name of the one couple in 1997 escapes me.
I refused to move, get out, or do anything until they calmed the heck down. They were shocked. I wasn't going to put up with their shit for one second and was willing to abandon mission. We went back inside and they were charming.
ErinPDX
I did exactly the same thing one time with each of mine. Worked like a charm. I really don't believe in hitting kids. But the first time they ran in the street they got a swift swat on the bottom. Because it was so rare, it is was quite effective.
ql in ny | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:19 pm | #
I mean both of these are excellent example of how to be an adult. Neither incidents were the end of the world and neither will 'scar' them for life. And I bet that kind of lesson they will use latter in life when there really is a crisis.
We teachers are told quite explicitly anymore to not touch our students at all. Less explicitly that this is about fear of liability. It's absurd, students come up to me to hug me. We're a very confused culture when it comes to children.
mena
We really are.
[and there are too many lawyers in this country. ]
There were going to be absolutely no war toys in my house. And for damn sure no video games.
mena
And my girls were never going to get dollhouses or Barbies.
There were going to be absolutely no war toys in my house. And for damn sure no video games.
mena
And my girls were never going to get dollhouses or Barbies.
Richard isn't the one making a nuisance of himself.
with President George W Bush's steady hand at the helm
Captain W: "Iceberg dead ahead! Prepare to ram!"
Damn right they do. You threaten me, I promise you.
Richard hit my blog like 100 times today.
Oh, Jr called me an idiot.
annieangel
Do you have any evidence that you aren't?
Pigboy, there is nothing terrifying in any of the rules I lay out.
Your post is just more proof that you weren't brought up right.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:15 pm | #
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No, trust me, I was brought up 'right' with the same blame the victim attitude you show.
Damn right they do. You threaten me, I promise you.
annieangel
Up your dosage, moppet, you were the one that threatened me.
Enough projection for a Cineplex.
Blame the victim?? Let me guess. YOU are a victim!! Oh booo hooo, I'm just dying over here.
Grow up.
I mean both of these are excellent example of how to be an adult. Neither incidents were the end of the world and neither will 'scar' them for life. And I bet that kind of lesson they will use latter in life when there really is a crisis.
pigboy
There are far more bad things ahead if boundaries aren't set.
Arthur is sitting at the side of the pool, watching the sun start to go down....
Sittin' by the pool
Sippin' on a drink
Sure beats New York City
Gives me time to think
I mean both of these are excellent example of how to be an adult.
==
Which is all that's required, isn't it? Good on both of you good parents.
Those Catholic primary schools are the best in the world.
Jr, look man, jsut chill out. I told you I won't let Shoe hurt you. You obviously weren't raised properly yourself and have no idea how to properly treat women.
But if you fuck with me, Shoe is 4 times your size and he'll fuck you up.
You people wouldn't know decency if it bit you in the ass.
There are far more bad things ahead if boundaries aren't set.
It can be very painful to learn the boundaries from your first boss. I've seen this happen.
My high school librarian should be sainted. She tried to get me interested in applying at Rhodes, her husband's alma mater.
She's about to be a grandmother to a friend's baby. Her son remarried, to a true blue tattooed democrat.
Her other son is a state Republican rep. in California... the newlyweds are with them all the time.
Enough projection for a Cineplex.
The desperation is really showing, isn't it? Attention is all it wants. Ignore it, and it will go away.
Kidney punches are a good way to set boundaries. Right???
The Catholic school is the modern world's last connection to the educational ideals of classical antiquity.
evening bats...
I was reading below that there were more than your average amount of bushes in my town today.
great
But if you fuck with me, Shoe is 4 times your size and he'll fuck you up.
annieangel
I love these meltdown moments.
You people wouldn't know decency if it bit you in the ass.
I know when a gnat bites me in the ass, but you're not quite big enough for gnat material. Fuck off, die, stupid bitch.
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QL - will you keep the white carpets? I'll send you a cigarette-holdder for a housewarming present.
mena
We'll keep it for a little while. A cigarette holder would be divine, dahlink!
ql in ny
O I love it.
Oh Richard doesn't want us to go away, which is why he's been namestealing Shoe.
If he stops, I'll go away.
Attention is all it wants. Ignore it, and it will go away.
Richard
I'm going away soon. Office Xmas party.
Blame the victim?? Let me guess. YOU are a victim!! Oh booo hooo, I'm just dying over here.
Grow up.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:27 pm | #
Now just transfer that to the screaming parent that has been described here. You fit. It turns out the parent was out of contol in every one of those descriptions. I feel so ashamed for those children who have to put up with out of control, shaming, childlike parents like you. You lack humility, civility and decency. But I don't blame you. You were brought up that way.
Blame the victim?? Let me guess. YOU are a victim!! Oh booo hooo, I'm just dying over here.
Grow up.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:27 pm | #
Now just transfer that to the screaming parent that has been described here. You fit. It turns out the parent was out of contol in every one of those descriptions. I feel so ashamed for those children who have to put up with out of control, shaming, childlike parents like you. You lack humility, civility and decency. But I don't blame you. You were brought up that way.
You do love the drama, Jr. But I doubt you'd like the reality so much.
The Catholic school is the modern world's last connection to the educational ideals of classical antiquity.
kitty
Yeah, it sure is.
A real fortress mentality.
I missed the last thread and didn't read it, but Jeb's presidency would have only been better if he had paid attention to all the things his brother did not, had better advisors, shunned *cowboy diplomacy, and kept us a tad closer as a nation and not so hated worldwide.
But the economics would have been the same, certainly.
Would there have been a 9/11?
Who knows.
O I love it.
==
You can get her the white marabou mules.
I mean both of these are excellent example of how to be an adult.
==
Which is all that's required, isn't it? Good on both of you good parents.
mena
Word.
You are not a child, Pigboy. I won't treat you like one. I'll treat you the way you deserved to be treated, like a whiny entitlement bitch.
night moonbats
mena: aw, Jeffra. I'll drink one with you to that, my dear.
*clink!*
♥ to you, too, doll.
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Shoe is 4 times your size and he'll fuck you up.
Richard, it is time for you to go.
Dofasco party. Your office is a shitter, Jr.
I missed the last thread and didn't read it, but Jeb's presidency would have only been better if he had paid attention to all the things his brother did not, had better advisors, shunned *cowboy diplomacy, and kept us a tad closer as a nation and not so hated worldwide.
But the economics would have been the same, certainly.
Would there have been a 9/11?
Who knows.
pie
Jeb is a Bush. Political failure is part of that family.
He would've sucked up to the fundies, too.
Tena, how was the party?
thanks but don't give me too much credit. like you said, it is hard, every day.
pie,
Jeb would have outsourced every fucking thing he could and would claim that private business and school vouchers will cure all our ills.
We might have gone to Iraq, but it would have been with an army made up of contractors
Shoe is 4 times your size and he'll fuck you up.
I've never met him, but I read somewhere that Thers is nine feet tall and extremely cut.
But I doubt you'd like the reality so much.
annieangel
I love reality, that's why I'm an atheist.
C'mon moppet, I've offered to buy you a beer. You still too chicken to show your pathetic self?
The Catholic school is the modern world's last connection to the educational ideals of classical antiquity.
kitty
i find this particularly ironic, seeing as how it was the church that made sure so much of classical antiquity was lost, forgotten, and hidden. i guess they couldn't deal with the idea that pagans figured out what worked in education well before xtians.
and, in terms of education in america today: you couldn't be more wrong. but please, continue on in your ignorance, as you're an excellent example i can use when trying to convince parents that secular private schools are a better choice.
He would've sucked up to the fundies, too.
Of course, Schiavo.
But that sucking that hasn't hurt the rest of us too much.
Kids? I'm tellin' ya', sauteed. Use some of that gravy you were all going on about.
WTF?
RUMSFELD IS IN IRAQ TONIGHT?
Why aren't there any crackers in this house?
mena
What are you talking about?
I'm a cracker.
I love these meltdown moments.
JR, kerosene and a match
Yeah. The little rump-pa-pa-pum is crisis mode.
What's on tap at the Xmas Partay?
Any good scotch?
Maybe GeorgeI was crying because he knows Jeb will NEVER be a candidate now.
End of the dynasty.
Thank whomever.
Shoe is 4 times your size
He weighs 800lbs. and is over 12' tall? Dang... let me give you some circus contact info.
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He would've sucked up to the fundies, too.
Of course, Schiavo.
But that sucking that hasn't hurt the rest of us too much.
pie
Yeah, but Jebby wasn't preznit when he pulled the garbage with Schiavo.
The fact that he was going to have the corpse "kidnapped"....ech!
He weighs 800lbs. and is over 12' tall? Dang... let me give you some circus contact info.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
sounds like a common mountain troll
"He weighs 800lbs. and is over 12' tall? Dang... let me give you some circus contact info.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian"
No wonder Annie follows him around. Someone has to pick up his crap.
Yeah like when my dyslexic nephew was being taught the world was ten thousan years old instead of getting the help he needed to become functionally literate.
Yeah those church schools are great.
What's on tap at the Xmas Partay?
Any good scotch?
billy b
Lots, one of the most extensive scoth lists in town. Including Glenmorangie Sherry Cask Finish.
Jeffraham is three feet tall and two hundred pounds?
I missed the last thread and didn't read it, but Jeb's presidency would have only been better if he had paid attention to all the things his brother did not, had better advisors, shunned *cowboy diplomacy, and kept us a tad closer as a nation and not so hated worldwide.
I agree for the most part. Jeb was part of PNAC, so I'd bet he'd have invaded Iraq as well. Almost certainly he'd have pushed for the same economic and social agendas. I think he'd have been a lot like Dubya, only a bit less stupid.
My 40-clove chicken (decided to go with Ina Garten's) is simmering on the stovetop. Wish we had a cybersmell option.
Jeffraham is three feet tall and two hundred pounds?
Irving R. Feldman
He's big-boned.
What are you talking about?
I'm a cracker.
Central Scrutinizer
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You are not. But I ate the laftover chili. Third day in a row. I'm done with that now. But it beat getting off my LaBonza and making something. I love saturday.
Wish we had a cybersmell option.
pie
I scratched the monitor, but no sniffy
Almost certainly he'd have pushed for the same economic and social agendas. I think he'd have been a lot like Dubya, only a bit less stupid.
Richard
Really.
He's big-boned.
Central Scrutinizer
Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds. Why don't you meet him for a beer, Jr??? Chicken?
Irving R. Feldman: Jeffraham is three feet tall and two hundred pounds?
Meat occupies a VOLUME (hence, "meatspace"), so I'd assume a doubling of width and depth, as well as height.
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Lots, one of the most extensive scoth lists in town. Including Glenmorangie Sherry Cask Finish.
Fuck.
Have a couple for me.
I think he'd have been a lot like Dubya, only a bit less stupid.
What about Katrina? Would it have bothered him more about the prewar intelligence?
He has the intelligence. Does he have the conscience his older brother lacks?
Have you hit F5 lately?
Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds. Why don't you meet him for a beer, Jr??? Chicken?
annieangel
With those specs, sounds like Shoe's had about three lifetimes worth already.
Yeah like when my dyslexic nephew was being taught the world was ten thousand years old instead of getting the help he needed to become functionally literate.
Yeah those church schools are great.
Mr.Murder
One of my favorite memories of Catholic school was having a nun telling us that if we didn't plan on having any children, we had no right to get married.
So, this is what happens when you talk about kids with kids around.
Great.
He's big-boned.
Central Scrutinizer
I *am* big-boned, and it makes people think I weigh *less* than I do.
Exact opposite effect of what the non-big-boned fat people want that to mean.
Jeffraham is three feet tall and two hundred pounds?
Irving R. Feldman
==
And everything he says sounds like Godzilla.
Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds. Why don't you meet him for a beer, Jr??? Chicken?
Have him meet me at Cafe Coco, or Brewhouse West, any time he's in Nashville. Seriously!
.
At Jr.'s Christmas party, he has to stand in line with the other 12 year olds. :D
My 40-clove chicken (decided to go with Ina Garten's) is simmering on the stovetop. Wish we had a cybersmell option.
pie
O my lord, more food torture. First Shaw and now you.
That sounds incredible.
He has the intelligence. Does he have the conscience his older brother lacks?
pie
no
Someone has to pick up his crap.
EkCenTriK
"She" IS his crap.
This is not your convo, Jeff. SHEESH!
He has the intelligence. Does he have the conscience his older brother lacks?
pie
no
::matthew
No way.
Jeb couldn't play it off as being stupid.
He nees plausible deniability. Shit would have gone down the drain either way. Jeb can write a book about if he killed the American , how he would have done it.
Never mind the fact he stabbed electoral politics to death in Florida twice over.
Wingers are harmless, or else they'd do more than troll, here.
I'll meet any of you idiots. Anytime. It just has to be here, 'cause I'm not traveling these days.
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Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds.
Then he (she? it?) is obese.
Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds. Why don't you meet him for a beer, Jr??? Chicken?
I'll meet up with both of you.
2756 at 6'2"? Kinda pudgy, ain't he?
"Have him meet me at Cafe Coco, or Brewhouse West, any time he's in Nashville. Seriously!
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Jeffraham Prestonian "
Careful JP, he could be packing.
A bag of cheetos.
Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds. Why don't you meet him for a beer, Jr??? Chicken?
annieangel
sounds like he's fat fuck fulla shit, to me...
Well, was there ever any question that Jeb was the one being groomed? Texas was whiner W's consolation prize. He wasn't trained for the presidency. Mostly they hoped he wouldn't get caught, I imagine.
Is Gilley's gone??
hey yall: is it "la plus ca change" or "le plus?" i don't have a french dic around just now...
You are not a child, Pigboy. I won't treat you like one. I'll treat you the way you deserved to be treated, like a whiny entitlement bitch.
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I love that word 'deserve' it's always used as an excuse for the inexcusable. 'christians' are so judgemental and unforgiving. Like good ol Foggerty. Now that was so classic. Now there is a case where the word 'deserve' can be used. It is fits so well when used on abusers.
no
::matthew
See, a huge thing for me (other than Iraq, which is THE huge thing), is Katrina.
George let a city die.
That was to whovever is from Nashville. I rode the bull there once. They gave me a shirt.
Jeb can write a book how if he killed the American Dream*, how would he have done it.
Damned lag.
Shoe is 6'2", 275 pounds. Why don't you meet him for a beer, Jr??? Chicken?
annieangel
There are a multitude of diet books out these days
Is Gilley's gone??
Fucking idiot -- not even the right state.
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Well, was there ever any question that Jeb was the one being groomed? Texas was whiner W's consolation prize. He wasn't trained for the presidency. Mostly they hoped he wouldn't get caught, I imagine.
ronjazz, gloater
They didn't even expect him to win in Texas.
Even with the dirty smear campaign they ran against Ann Richards, may she rest in peace.
Wow, now I'm abusing poor pigboy! How cruel am I???
I feel sad for you Pigboy, but thre is no excuse for you to now not grow up and own the responsibility of your own life.
Never mind the fact he stabbed electoral politics to death in Florida twice over.
Mr.Murder
Jeb has done far more exptensive damage than that.
There is not a single level of government in Florida that he hasn't completely FUBARd...it will take decades to rebuild, assuming Crist doesn't continue down his path, which is likely
What about Katrina? Would it have bothered him more about the prewar intelligence?
He has the intelligence. Does he have the conscience his older brother lacks?
I don't know if he has any conscience, but I do think that he would have the smarts to not let things to get out of hand the way his brother did. I see him as someone who probably would have fallen into a lot of the same pits, but more capable of recognizing that he had to get out of them. As I said, I think he'd have gone to Iraq as well, but would have probably would have gotten out of Dodge by now.
They gave me a shirt.
annieangel
If you were riding a mechanical bull, I'd give you a shirt too. Maybe a parka. Bad visual.
Gilleys was on Music Row in NASHVILLE. There was one in Texas, but there was another in Nashville. SHEESH!
cd -
It takes the feminine.
ronjazz, would you buy drums from musician's friend?
You FUCKING idiot.
Up here in the Portland area we had a couple of CB'ers, yelling and threatening each other. One said meet me at this truck stop and the other said he would and don't think that he wouldn't. One shot the other one to death.
He weighs 800lbs. and is over 12' tall? Dang... let me give you some circus contact info.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
sounds like a common mountain troll
::matthew | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:37 pm
Could be a cave troll.
Never mind the fact he stabbed electoral politics to death in Florida twice over.
Mr.Murder
Jeb has done far more exptensive damage than that.
There is not a single level of government in Florida that he hasn't completely FUBARd...it will take decades to rebuild, assuming Crist doesn't continue down his path, which is likely
::matthew
What's the story about child services?
It took them months before they even realized that a little girl named Rilya was even missing.
They wre talking aobut shooting me tonight, the fine well raised folk here. XD
Could be a cave troll.
Buckeye, Blue State
African or European?
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:45 pm | #
Obtuse. The word fits you to a tee.
Annieanal is why Gilley's went under.
Go away, you are the kiss of death just like Dubya. Everything you touch turns to shit.
"Jeb, who is leaving office with a 53 percent approval rating, putting him ninth among the 50 governors in popularity"
WTF!
Pigboy, the word VICTIM suits you to a tee, because you choose to let it.
chi dy - I thought "french dic" was one of your sex toys.
gwb:drf
Gilleys was on Music Row in NASHVILLE. There was one in Texas, but there was another in Nashville. SHEESH!
annieangel - 6:46 pm
the first, and only REAL, "Gilley's" was in Pasadena TX, you feculent bint...rode the bull there once (well, i got throwed, but that's not the point)
/
I"m going to let you guys play trollball for awhile while i go snooze some more. Did I mention how much I love Saturdays?
Could be a cave troll.
Buckeye, Blue State
African or European?
Central Scrutinizer
Either way this conversation is giving me the creepers
Jeb's leaving is approved of. Eleanor Clift needs to clarify that fact.
I said Foggerty, I meant Ted Haggard.
You can visit him here :http://www.tedhaggard.com/
Jeb has done far more exptensive damage than that.
There is not a single level of government in Florida that he hasn't completely FUBARd...it will take decades to rebuild, assuming Crist doesn't continue down his path, which is likely
I actually had a person tell me the other day that now that her mother who lived in Florida has died, she sees no reason to go to Florida any more. They used to spend a month there every year, but it's just not what it used to be.
*shrug*
Did I mention how much I love Saturdays?
mena - 6:50 pm
hey, roadie, you doin' okay?
There was a real Gilley's in Nashville. I had on my Ole Miss shirt and the owner made me go op on the stage because he yelled out I'll sing any song you all want, and I yelled back, sing "Crazy."
Had a great time there.
God is all-forgiving, as is Christ. Yet you do not forgive him for being God. Ready to nail him to the cross again, Liberals?
WTF!
Terry C
Whatever.
Florida is doomed anyway.
I just sent Duncan an e-mail asking him to do us a big favor.
I didn't fall off the bull, either. Strong thighs, that's what I've got.
Yet you do not forgive him for being God.
And I still have it in for the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus.
Riiiight....
Good move, Terry C.
gwb:drf
Ready to nail him to the cross again, Liberals?
Shoelimpy
Actually the Romans nailed him to the cross.
Ready to nail him to the cross again, Liberals?
Shoelimpy™ - 6:53 pm
wasn't 'liberals' that got'im the first time...dunno why they'd wanna do it if he came back...
personally, i'd wanna put 'im in a circus...
"I didn't fall off the bull, either"
Being stuck to it doesn't count
Ole Miss just slipped a few more notches in the prestige factor.
Less than zero.
Erin, first of all, musician's friend, they're not your friend. Unless you mean like your monthly. Anyway, I've bought a few things from them, and they're just fine as far as that kind of thing goes. If you're a smooth talking bullshitter like me, you can get them to eat the shipping on stuff, and bully them into extending a sale by a day or two. If you know just what you want, and it's not too high-end, they'll have the best prices fairly often. Drums? I think so.
Dick Cheney is a savage barbarian, now that I think about it.
Strong thighs, that's what I've got.
annieangel
You might try bathing more often, then.
I said Foggerty, I meant Ted Haggard.
You can visit him here :http://www.tedhaggard.com/
pigboy
Oh, you mean THIS guy?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/FXzRr0rO.jpg
Get him to ban Richard for namestealing Shoe, and I'll leave.
Good move, Terry C.
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil
Really - I've HAD it!
Could be a cave troll.
Buckeye, Blue State
African or European?
Central Scrutinizer | 12.09.06 - 6:48 pm
unlike like some people, who prefer the killer rabbit scene, this is my favorite:
BRIDGEKEEPER:
What... is your quest?
ARTHUR:
To seek the Holy Grail.
BRIDGEKEEPER:
What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
ARTHUR:
What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
BRIDGEKEEPER:
Huh? I-- I don't know that. Auuuuuuuugh!
Oh, you mean THIS guy?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/FXzRr0rO.jpg
Terry C, American Once Again | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 6:55 pm | #
Yes him, the guy with those wonderful christian values, the guy who plays by those christian rules, the guy responsible for people like Annie and Limpy....... yeah. That guy.
You were right before, Miss Annie: they want us here. That is why if we are not here, they namesteal. They would be lost without us.
And of course Richard will never be banned, because Mr. Os has no sense of justice.
Unless you mean like your monthly.
thanks ron
I am only here because Richard has been namstealing Shoe for a week now.
Okay, off to drink champers.
Have a lovely evening all.
unlike like some people, who prefer the killer rabbit scene, this is my favorite:
Actually, I'm torm between the witch scene and the anarcho-syndicalist commune scene.
pearl or gretsch
that is the question
yes, low end
They are so bored in their crappy little lives. That's sad.
Oh no, they are bringing out the Holy Grail quotes.
Gilleys was on Music Row in NASHVILLE. There was one in Texas, but there was another in Nashville. SHEESH!
The locals don't go to idiot holes like Wildhorse, et al. You're a fuckin' dumbass, but you know that.
.
A duck!
Fair cop
Yes it is, Miss Annie. It is pitiful to be a liberal these days. And an Asstriot to boot.
Hey, Moe, I see that "Anyone But Iggy" Dion won.
Heehee.
Hahahaha, the locals arent allowed to go to Music Row?? Prolly for the best, I've seen the locals! Don't want to scare away tourists!!!
I bet you hold the Opryland Hotel in contempt, just so you feel better for not being able to afford to go there for the night.
Have a double shot for me, Ql.
This damned oxycontin shit is horrid. Can't eat with it my system. Makes me want to drink...
ronjazz, would you buy drums from musician's friend?
ErinPDX
You didn't ask me, but I sure as hell would, Erin.
I order stuff regularly from MF. I bought my son an electric guitar from them. About a $700 ESP (LTD - the S/ Korean made ESP). Top of the line.
And I still have it in for the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus.
Riiiight....
JR, kerosene and a match
This guy, too?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/o5mLItlS.gif
This guy, too?
Terry C, American Once Again
Well, that beer volcano is mighty attractive...
NI!!! NI NI NI NINI!!!
dumb and dumber
Hey, Moe, I see that "Anyone But Iggy" Dion won.
As I predicted, ahem. We gave Dion a hundred bucks, and we will never again get such leverage out of a political donation. I'm thinking I'll get a Senate seat, but Ambassador to somewhere warm works, too.
hmmm, no insight between Pearl and Gretsch.
We musicians are so easily entertained. It's fetching.
I am interested in any and all recipies for feeding male teen armies
Late to the party and you've probably already been well-supplied with same, but as I have some experience with this situation, will post that which gets raves 'round these parts:
Taco Salad
1 lb ground beef
1 pkg taco seasoning
1 bag Doritos
1 head lettuce, chopped
1 large onion, diced
1 large green pepper, diced
2 decent sized tomatoes, diced
1 pkg shredded cheddar
1 large bottle taco sauce
1 large container sour cream
Cook ground beef according to directions on taco seasoning. Meanwhile, put the lettuce in a large bowl, crunch up the Doritos and pour on top of the lettuce, then add the cheese. In a medium bowl, combine taco sauce and sour cream (this is the "dressing"). When meat is done, allow to cool, then add to bowl, along with onions and peppers. Toss everything, top with dressing. Boys love it.
Also, chocolate chip cookies seem to go over well. The kind that come in a plastic tube are fine. Boys don't care.
Wait a minute, they're drums. Get the coolest looking ones.
Nur Al finding new work yet? you had a quote about jailbreaking in Iraq. You translate that or find it on the Asia times?
the locals arent allowed to go to Music Row??
Allowed? Sure.
Wanna hang there waiting for a coward who's not gonna show up, anyway? Fuck, no.
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ThinlyVeiled | 12.09.06 - 7:03 pm | #
Love that frito pie!
So, has Richard been banned yet?
It's gone I think anyway. How'd you get involved in this fight, Jeff?? Are you and Jr dating now?
I am interested in any and all recipies for feeding male teen armies
Large pots of chili, lots of fresh rolls, and no name cookies.
I am interested in any and all recipies for feeding male teen armies
Large pots of chili, lots of fresh rolls, and no name cookies.
I didn't know this election was today...
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...ives/
011477.php
We should know later tonight whether Rep. "Dollar Bill" Jefferson (D-LA) is able to win re-election while the target of a federal bribery investigation. The polls close in his runoff at 9 p.m. EST.
$700 for a Korean ESP sounds STEEP to me...! Youcould get a Hamer USA off eBay for less.
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thank you hec. arabella, you c'mon over here and i'll show you my collection of french toys. do you want to be tickled or spanked? or both?
the cool baker.
New infoco update...
Anything to make it easier:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/1...n.ap/
index.html
We should know later tonight whether Rep. "Dollar Bill" Jefferson (D-LA) is able to win re-election while the target of a federal bribery investigation. The polls close in his runoff at 9 p.m. EST.
Richard | 12.09.06 - 7:04 pm | #
I hope the other Democrat wins. We need to clean house.
An army of teen males at our house loved guacamole and cheese quesadillas and hot fudge sundaes
Boy, those days go by too fast
Are you and Jr dating now?
Worried that there are two less cocks in the world you might get to suck?
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Well, time to boogie. Alcohol awaits.
Bush/Shiites vs. Baker/Saudis?
In my article today at Salon.com, "Will Bush choose his new friends over his old? points out that "The president's Shiite allies in Iraq really don't like some of James Baker's Sunni-friendly suggestions. "
Bush/Shiites vs. Baker/Saudis?
In my article today at Salon.com, "Will Bush choose his new friends over his old? points out that "The president's Shiite allies in Iraq really don't like some of James Baker's Sunni-friendly suggestions. "
dumb and dumber
Nur al-cubicle
http://thumbsnap.com/v/ZFybieD5.jpg
Alcohol awaits.
JR
You can drink here. I am. And avoiding work. Three things at once, that's worth a celebratory shot.
An army of teen males at our house loved guacamole and cheese quesadillas and hot fudge sundaes
Is that some kind of metaphor?
Boy, those days go by too fast
You know it.
They are so bored in their crappy little lives. That's sad.
We were hanging out with friends.
What's sad is hanging out at a place where you know no one likes you. That is truly sad.
Why are you so pathetic, Annie? Is it because you know in your dark little heart that for all your delusions of sexy grandeur no one -- no one at all -- likes you, let alone loves you.
How very sad indeed.
Yeah, Jeff, that's exactly waht I'm worried about. You saw right through my smokescreen, and to the heart of the amtter.
truth is, I am worried that I won't get to suck your cocks now. I've been worried aobut it for a while, I jsut didn't want to admit that it was true.
Now I know it is. My heart is broken. However shall I go on, knowing that Jeffs shit covered cock is up Jr.'s ass and I can't get to it to suck. Woe is me.
What a waste of taxpayers dollars. A fuckin farewell tour. Thanks for dying! You should have worn better armor!
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has arrived in Iraq on a surprise trip to thank US troops for their service just days before he steps down from his post, a Defense Department spokesman said.
"The secretary is in Iraq to express appreciation to the troops for what they're doing as well as thanking the families for the sacrifices they make every day for all Americans," spokesman Todd Vician told AFP.
He said Rumsfeld had departed Friday for Iraq and offered no more details of the defense secretary's schedule.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/
2006...ry_061209234311
Well, this is nice, but I think that I should probably make up an alter ego, and go argue on a blog that hates me, so I can alternately be ignored or shit on.
Oh, heck, somebody's taken that one.
Worked all day making money when I could have been sitting here, drinking beer and talking about the shit. Feel like my whole day's been wasted...
Toonscribe, BlogJohn | 12.09.06 - 7:10 pm | #
Who are you?
It's supposed to be 37 degrees here.
With wind chill it's all of 16 degrees.
Miserable out.
Rumsfeld's safer in Iraq...
thanks for recipies
hey billy b
yes, there is a Really Cool Looking set on MF and our local store seemed unable to meet the price.
Um, yeah, Frito pie. Except it isn't.
Asswipe.
And even if it was, what's wrong with that? I'm sure a pack of teenaged boys would wolf it down without giving it a second thought.
******
And speaking of feeding an army, a huge pot of spaghetti isn't a bad idea, either.
He said Rumsfeld had departed Friday for Iraq and offered no more details of the defense secretary's schedule.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ 2006...ry_061209234311
pigboy
How pathetic is that?
I see the tweaker's here.
So, has Richard been banned yet?
More importantly, have Joe Wilson and Valerie Pflame been indicted yet?
Rumsfeld is running from the fabulous Baker boyz. Are they turning on each other? Hehehehehe.
Shoelimpy, when are you gonna slide down on my cock. That's the only reason you're here. Don't be shy...
Rumsfeld's safer in Iraq...
ronjazz, gloater
MSGOP came on with that "newsflash" as if Rummy was to be commended.
I love frito pie. I make the same thing. Doritos are better than fritos.
Now, that said, I hope you choke on it, bitch.
'allo pibbles. how are we all today?
Now I know it is. My heart is broken. However shall I go on, knowing that Jeffs shit covered cock is up Jr.'s ass and I can't get to it to suck. Woe is me.
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 7:11 pm | #
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Don't play the victim annie. We both know there are plenty of public rest rooms out there for you to fulfill your lifestyle with.
I see the tweaker's here.
One-Eyed Willy
Unfortunately, yes.
Erin -
If the drums are the ones you want and the price is right, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them.
I am interested in any and all recipies for feeding male teen armies
Bags of taco chips, gallons of hot sauce, tons of triscuits, a table full of pepper jack, oceans of soda, cases of cookies and a forest of video games.
Aa recipe for many fond memories.
Evening moonbeams. Just sauntering.
Who are you?
I've told everybody a couple of times, even pointed out my page at imdb-dot-com.
Guess you haven't been paying attention.
But pigboy, that's your mama's turf!
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has arrived in Iraq on a surprise trip to thank US troops for their service just days before he steps down from his post, a Defense Department spokesman said.
Where's a "suicider" when you really need one?
He said Rumsfeld had departed Friday for Iraq and offered no more details of the defense secretary's schedule.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ 2006...ry_061209234311
pigboy
How pathetic is that?
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 7:14 pm | #
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Very. What kind of farewell tour is that anyway? Farewell to what? Failure? They are the most shameless lot in history.
Yeah, I guess I should have been paying more atten...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
My cunt stank, but you already knew that.
This is pretty horrifying:
Captain of Picton Castle says a rogue wave swept woman overboard off U.S.
HALIFAX (CP) - Officials continued to search a wide of swath of sea Saturday for a 25-year-old woman who was washed over the side of a Nova Scotia-based tall ship that was hit by a rogue wave off the U.S. coast.
U.S. Coast Guard spokesman Petty Officer Larry Chambers said a C-130 aircraft was cutting across an area about 765 kilometres east-southeast of Cape Cod, Mass., using infrared to detect anything in the water.
A merchant tanker was also helping the search for the Canadian woman, who was swept off the Picton Castle at around 9:30 Friday night after a large wave slammed into the sailing ship.
But by early evening, no one had spotted her.
"We're still out there looking," Chambers said from the coast guard centre in Portsmouth, Va., adding that 1,900 square kilometres had already been searched.
"She's got an estimated 36 hours of survival."
Chambers said it's possible the woman, who has not been identified, could survive for more than a day because of water temperatures around 22 C, her physical fitness and young age.
But he said she was not wearing a life-jacket at the time and the seas were as high as seven metres, while winds reached gale-force strength.
Dan Moreland, senior captain of the Picton Castle, said crew aboard the 55-metre barque have told him a massive wave washed over the ship as it was en route to Grenada after leaving Lunenburg, N.S., on Tuesday.
Sen. Patty Murray responds to readers' questions
I am interested in any and all recipies for feeding male teen armies.
Taco Bell.
My son lived on that shit, tho, that was in his late teens/early 20's.
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But pigboy, that's your mama's turf!
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 7:18 pm | #
Okay this will have to do. I'm rubber you're glue.
Evening moonbeams. Just sauntering.
Henry Flower
Hi ya, HF!
I know you are but what am I?
Where's a "suicider" when you really need one?
Terry C, American Once Again
Thus the 'suprize' visit.
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Where's a "suicider" when you really need one?
Terry C, American Once Again
Thus the 'surprize' visit.
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agave
Yep!
Chambers said it's possible the woman, who has not been identified, could survive for more than a day because of water temperatures around 22 C, her physical fitness and young age.
But he said she was not wearing a life-jacket at the time and the seas were as high as seven metres, while winds reached gale-force strength.
That is horrifying thinking about her out there right now. The seas have claimed untold lives.
Miserable out.
Terry C, American Once Again
Would you like a whiskey? I have some lovely Irish here...
I posted new Curly, but want to pimp Mia as part of my karmic debt balancing philosophy, if I may.
If you have a blog, you know you can help!
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Miserable out.
Terry C, American Once Again
Would you like a whiskey? I have some lovely Irish here...
flory
Cheers!
Rumsfeld might want to bypass Yemen on his tour. They don't much like him.
I'm on beer #3!
Whoo-hoo!
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I have some lovely Irish here...
I also got some fine Irish for ya, right here...
Where's a "suicider" when you really need one?
Terry C, American Once Again
I think ol' Donald is rubbing Junior's nose in it. He was too fucking cowardly to show his face in Iraq, but Rumsfeld isn't.....
Pretty miserable here, too, Terry. Frozen slush all over the streets, and too cold to go anywhere, although I did manage to walk down to the liquor store.
I also got some fine Irish for ya, right here...
Thers
Are we flirting tonite?
Rumsfeld might want to bypass Yemen on his tour. They don't much like him.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Does anyone with a heart and a conscience like him, I wonder?
"This is our town," says Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, the first Democrat to forcefully condemn the president's behavior. "We spend our lives involved in talking about, dealing with, working in government. It has reminded everybody what matters to them. You are embarrassed about what Bill Clinton's behavior says about the White House, the presidency, the government in general."
Thers,
Are you related to my husband? Don't immediately answer no, he was adopted.
I'm going to the movies. Have a wonderful night.
I don't understand what the trolls get out of being here. What the fuck do they want? Tobes tries to half-ass convey something but to just be here being nasty just to be nasty will never make any sense to me.
Where's a "suicider" when you really need one?
Terry C, American Once Again
I think ol' Donald is rubbing Junior's nose in it. He was too fucking cowardly to show his face in Iraq, but Rumsfeld isn't.....
flory
Preznit givee turkey!
I'm on beer #3!
Whoo-hoo!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Slow down, dammit!
I'm still on #1.
OK and a shot of Vodka.
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I don't understand what the trolls get out of being here. What the fuck do they want? Tobes tries to half-ass convey something but to just be here being nasty just to be nasty will never make any sense to me.
Ô¿Ô
If you figure out it, my friend, let me know.
I have NO idea.
#4 for me.
Enjoy the movie!!
Enjoy the movie!!
Mars Bitches.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/fThhzpw0.jpg
Are we flirting tonite?
I have no idea what you mean, madam. I was referring to my peat logs. If you know what I mean.
Mr.Murder:
LieberWhore is an embarrassment.
Wine review:
Trader Joe's $3 Chuck Sauv Blanc: good enough
agave: Slow down, dammit!
I'm still on #1.
OK and a shot of Vodka.
It's taken me two hours to get from the top of beer #1 to the bottom of beer #3, so I'll be plenty slow for you, pard.
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too cold to go anywhere, although I did manage to walk down to the liquor store.
Moe Szyslak
Nothing like a bit of incentive!
It takes a village:
'Muffie Cabot, who as Muffie Brandon served as social secretary to President and Nancy Reagan, regards the scene with despair. "This is a demoralized little village," she says. "People have come from all over the country to serve a higher calling and look what happened. They're so disillusioned. The emperor has no clothes. Watergate was pretty scary, but it wasn't quite as sordid as this."'
Are you related to my husband? Don't immediately answer no, he was adopted.
You adopted him?
I'm on beer #3!
Whoo-hoo!
If one of those Atriots should happen to fall...
Evening, all.
Has anything of an essentially irky nature happened around here since this morning?
Are we flirting tonite?
flory
Wait!
Let me take a shower and shave.
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Okay, I clearly need to go sit down.
Somewhere other than this computer chair.
simels is a troll!
Has anything of an essentially irky nature happened around here since this morning?
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I was referring to my peat logs. If you know what I mean.
Thers
Logs? Plural?
My my......
Uh, that last godel post about irkiness was me.
I regret the error.
Broke the long undies out today.
I talk dirty to Shoelimpy to scare him off but I don't think a sonic boom upside annieangel's head would scare that thing off.
Hi guys!
I broke for dinner. Home made ravioli with a cardinale sauce. And a nice zinfandel.
Whassup?
Is Chimpy still the preznitwit?
It's taken me two hours to get from the top of beer #1 to the bottom of beer #3, so I'll be plenty slow for you, pard.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
OK.
Now I'm on beer #7!
Let me take a shower and shave.
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agave
Well, hurry it up. I haven't got all night....
Oh...wait....yes I do!!!
Some trolls like to hang out here because they think it makes them famous.
gwb:drf
"We have our own set of village rules," says David Gergen, editor at large at U.S. News & World Report, who worked for both the Reagan and Clinton White House. "Sex did not violate those rules. The deep and searing violation took place when he not only lied to the country, but co-opted his friends and lied to them. That is one on which people choke."
So who lied about the WMD?
Evening, all.
Has anything of an essentially irky nature happened around here since this morning?
godel
To recap:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/ZFybieD5.jpg
Tobes comes in here and acts like the Iraq war is going just fine. How more fucked up can anyone possibly get?
I broke for dinner. Home made ravioli with a cardinale sauce. And a nice zinfandel.
That'd feed an army of teenage boys.
brb
Enjoy the movie!!
annieangel | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 7:28 pm | #
I see the inspiration for Green Day's "American Idiot" is in the house.
Watergate was pretty scary, but it wasn't quite as sordid as this."'
Mr.Murder
I read that and plotzed. Yeah, a blowjob is infinitely worse than trying to steal an election....
Then again -- her name is Muffie, fer chissakes. Who gives a fuck what she thinks?
Choke on THIS, Gergen!
http://thumbsnap.com/v/ua9kVi1P.jpg
Glasses guy is a troll. He's jack, also known as jacob.
Then again -- her name is Muffie, fer chissakes. Who gives a fuck what she thinks?
flory
flory, I thought the same thing.
Clear, still, and cold in the Hi ChiHuaHuan tonight...
gonna get down into the 20s ...
but that's normal here this time of year...
/
"This is a contractual city," says Chris Matthews, who once was a top aide to the late Speaker of the House Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neill. "There are no factories here. What we make are deals. It's a city based on bonds made and kept." The president, he went on, "has broken and shattered contracts publicly and shamefully. He violates the trust at the highest level of politics. Matthews, now a Washington columnist for the San Francisco Examiner and host of CNBC's "Hardball," also says, "There has to be a functional trust by reporters of the person they're covering. Clinton lies knowing that you know he's lying. It's brutal and it subjugates the person who's being lied to. I resent deeply being constantly lied to."
Matthews should clarify his position towards Dubya's recount lies, war lies, policy lies, corruption lies.
When Dems have the purse strings we'll get to some of these matters.
cardinale sauce.
Shaw Kenawe
Made from those birds?
Ah, a red sauce.
Interesting.
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Tobes comes in here and acts like the Iraq war is going just fine. How more fucked up can anyone possibly get?
11%
Tobes comes in here and acts like the Iraq war is going just fine. How more fucked up can anyone possibly get?
Ô¿Ô
You don't see him enlisting, though.
Some trolls like to hang out here because they think it makes them famous.
One troll is very fond of talking to itself.
I took off for dinner too. Weekly indulgence of grilled burgers with all the fixings and homemade fries. And I feel fine. So, what's happening?
Matthews should clarify his position towards Dubya's recount lies, war lies, policy lies, corruption lies.
Mr.Murder
Too busy fluffing him.
A Muslim convert intent on "jihad," Derrick Shareef plotted to use hand grenades and a pistol to kill shoppers at the CherryVale Shopping Center outside of Rockford, authorities charged.
. . .
Many elements of Shareef's alleged plot, including the idea to attack the mall, came from the informant, the charges said.
Nothing better to do than incite folks to criminal activity so they can arrest them, I guess.
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My heart is broken.
Bully for you, then.
I have no idea why you'd give a flying fuck what JR and I do with our dicks. I don't care what you do with yours. Never gave it a thought.
I personally wouldn't fuck you with Karl Rove's, but since his dick's not 4x the size of a Democratic dick, weighing 800lbs., 12' long, 5' wide (and covered with barbed scales), you wouldn't feel it.
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One troll needs to get his head outta his ass.
gonna get down into the 20s ...
but that's normal here this time of year...
/
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogues scholar
Brr....you could use a nice glass of Irish too....
I see the inspiration for Green Day's "American Idiot" is in the house.
steve simels
Both parts.
I talk dirty to Shoelimpy to scare him off
Ô¿Ô
cocktease.
'Certainly Clinton is not the first president to lie. But the scope and circumstances of his lying enrage Establishment Washington.
"His behavior," says Lieberman, "is so over the edge. What is troubling is the deceit, the failure to own up to it. Before this is over the truth must be told."'
Yeah, Joe and there's over four hundred grand in a tax free slush fund you slung around to steal Ned Lamont's seat. Let's put a real republican in his seat when the Gov. picks some replacement since we've got the votes. Just to make a point.
Just like we the voters will do with Jefferson.
Jeff's a cheap drunk. Soon he'll start to cry, and then he'll pass out.
I hope he dosn't get violent.
but that's normal here this time of year...
/
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogues scholar
Kinna cool here, too.
All the landscaped yards are draped with drop cloths and sheets.
I wish I could put a big sheet over a few 50' pines just for laffs. Or really to make a sarcastic comment.
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"A Muslim convert intent on "jihad," Derrick Shareef plotted to use hand grenades and a pistol to kill shoppers at the CherryVale Shopping Center outside of Rockford, authorities charged."
One looney being played up as the second coming of Osama.
Sorry, wingers - that shit doesn't work anymore.
11/7 changed everything.
Made from those birds?
Ah, a red sauce.
Interesting.
Essentially it's a red sauce with cream, thyme and nutmeg in it. First had it in Roma.
I've lived for a very long time. I have seen nothing, nothing at all more demoralizing and criminal than what has happened in the last six years. Nothing.
cocktease.
jello
Not really. He can send me a pic of himself and maybe I'd fuck him. That's what he needs: A hard dick up his ass.
Here's a post for anal annie.
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So Bush's number is down to 27 percent and the Dixie Chicks are up for a bunch of Grammys.
The ironies abound...
I've lived for a very long time. I have seen nothing, nothing at all more demoralizing and criminal than what has happened in the last six years. Nothing.
mer
Moi aussi, chere.
But there are oranges in a few months. And children and puppies. It's what there is. Along with the Ides of November of course..
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her name is Muffie, fer chissakes
I knew a young woman while I was in grad school at UT -- Tenn, not Tex -- who went by the name of Tinki, a name I think she acquired while attending Mt Holyoke as an undergrad. She never would tell anyone what her real name was.
You don't see him enlisting, though.
6 foot 2 and 275 - he's too fat.
'During the last year, the nation's journalistic community has suffered through a series of credibility crises: Mike Barnicle's and Patricia Smith's disgrace and departure from the Boston Globe, two CNN producers involved in the network's discredited sarin report, and compulsive fabricator Stephen Glass of the New Republic.
Washington's insider press corps has shown little pity for any of them. The feeling toward the president is similar.
"The judgment is harsher in Washington," says The Post's Broder. "We don't like being lied to."'
Broder is the punch line. you suppose the dsiscredited CNN sarin report made it into the Saddam portfolio of lies that Powell poached our integrity upon?
"A Muslim convert intent on "jihad," Derrick Shareef plotted to use hand grenades and a pistol to kill shoppers at the CherryVale Shopping Center outside of Rockford, authorities charged."
Goodness, he's almost, not quite, just nearly, closely, sorta kinda, a little bit as scary as our own good xtian terra'ist Tim McVeigh.
Essentially it's a red sauce with cream, thyme and nutmeg in it. First had it in Roma.
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 7:39 pm | #
Ooh...sounds yummy.
I've lived for a very long time. I have seen nothing, nothing at all more demoralizing and criminal than what has happened in the last six years. Nothing.
mer
Me too neither.
steve simels: The ironies abound...
Indood, they do, deed.
Good thang you said "ironies"; reminds me I must work up a load. Of laundry, you ne'er-do-well!
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"A Muslim convert intent on "jihad," Derrick Shareef plotted to use hand grenades and a pistol to kill shoppers at the CherryVale Shopping Center outside of Rockford, authorities charged."
Now if he had ACTUALLY HAD GRENADES, this would be a story.
Jeff looks like John Bolton.
I splurged tonite.
Bought a 6 of Mickeys (Fine Malt Liquor).
I miss the ring top deal they used to have. Almost impossible to open, especially after a few, with out beer flying.
And the skunk has been mitigated.
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steve simels -- If you don't have a PC comin', you HAVE a PC comin'.
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Clear, still, and cold in the Hi ChiHuaHuan tonight...
gonna get down into the 20s ...
but that's normal here this time of year...
/
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogues scholar
We're back up to around 40 at night, so I'm not covering anybody just yet. And the spa, at 102, awaits.... I swear to Chuy, that was the all time best thing I've bought for this house. No question.
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Twins for Costello and Krall
The musically inclined couple welcomed their first children together Wednesday in New York, twin sons Dexter Henry Lorcan and Frank Harlan James.
"We are ecstatic," Costello, 52, and Krall, 42, said in a statement, adding that "mother and sons are doing splendidly."