I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
What is this normal blogging you speak of?
Git yer Endless War Ribbon Here!
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.c...ndless-
war.html
wow
everyone out on the town
Fresh air!
Xmas ...been there done that
Ann Altmouse discusses Camille Paglia and underpants. For some reason.
Define "normal blogging" please...
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hi Stevens.....long time no see
If truth be told, I did contribute to the pollution level in the last thread.
Sorry.
It's a bad winter for BMW, their 2.8 ans 3.0(528i and 530i) are blowing head gaskets left and right.Thank the gods for Toyota.
Ann Altmouse discusses Camille Paglia and underpants. For some reason.
Thers | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 11:49 pm | #
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2 extremely self absorbed bores
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo!
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blowing head gaskets left and right
NO FLIRTING.
Call me, Harold!
C U R L Y !
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Ooh, neat and clean upstairs!
Thank the gods radiator season is here.
hi
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.09.06 - 11:51 pm | #
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Darlin...i still think you would have fun moonlightin as a mixologist...you definately have the personality!!!
Current results in the LA-2 Congressional runoff:
TOTALS 218/492 precints reporting
Karen Carter (D) 10856 39%
William Jefferson (D) 17253 61%
ORLEANS 118/392 precints reporting
Karen Carter (D) 5889 53%
William Jefferson (D) 5319 47%
JEFFERSON 100/100 precints reporting
Karen Carter (D) 4967 29%
William Jefferson (D) 11934 71%
So, who watched The Screwfly Solution?
Dude, I, ah, don't like watching porn with other dudes. 
Allow me to ruin this thread with my half-witticisms, as I continue my ten hour trolling marathon.
Jeffraham--my vote is for not sleeping.
He's waiting for you to pass out so he can get on the computer and blog with us.
sittenpretty: Darlin...i still think you would have fun moonlightin as a mixologist...you definately have the personality!!!
I just like to have fun!
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Ouch SNL just did in Gibson.
Ooh, neat and clean upstairs!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.09.06 - 11:51 pm | #
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may i mix you a cosmopolitan with...Chopin Vodka ,and Cointreau....ummm?
Katie--I'd be delighted!
Sallyh -- Sorry, you don't know your Curly as well as you thunk! He was comatose asleep.
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Nothing's stopping Curly from hitting the desktop. It's in the bedroom, serving as TV for now.
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Chevy is doing ok with the bio/ethanol. E85 can run in most engines past and present.
Jeffraham--oh, but he was here last night.
He tells us secrets about you 
He didn't get proper credit for a truck toilet design so he killed a few people.
Volkswagen is doin the turbo diesel.
here dear
http://absolutdrinks.com/content.../source/
652.png
and an eclair?
Sallyh: He tells us secrets about you
Yeah. I can't keep him off the kitchen countertops ALL the time, either. But he KNOWS better!
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EkCenTrik,
SNL was hilarious.
Jaguar is Ford. The new Jags are half Taurus.
Ann Altmouse discusses Camille Paglia and underpants. For some reason.
Thers
I can't believe Paglia still believes that she's important.
what's normal blogging, anyhoo?
Next week Justin Timberlake is host and musical guest on SNL. I'll have to stock up on Jergen's lotion and Kleenex for that one!
Flory--politics, sex, recipes, sex, cats, sex, alcohol, sex.
The hybrid vehicles aren't profitable. They won't clear the law of the markets.
So, who watched The Screwfly Solution?
Don't have Showtime.
My windshield wipers don't work in the rain.
uhm choux
http://www.tildas.com/images/Pas...rd%
20Eclair.JPG
Cable TV is weak
I think the trolls are on the brink of a complete takeover.
He tells us secrets about you
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
sssshhh...you weren't s'posed to tell....
Colbert did a special alphabet bit for PBS for free. The dude is beyond cool.
It's been a long time coming.
Flory--politics, sex, recipes, sex, cats, sex, alcohol, sex.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
You forgot puns....and sex.
Certain styles of trolling finally caught on and began autonomous reproduction.
I think the trolls are on the brink of a complete takeover.
trinity
fuck off, jack!
Cats! Playing with a feather!
In spectacular NToddocolor!
Ann Altmouse discusses Camille Paglia and underpants. For some reason.
I just don't know how she picks up on the Zeitgeist so quickly...
NTodd--the Catz are all too cute.
terri
an opus dei candidate would tear the right apart, no?
"Current results in the LA-2 Congressional runoff:"
god, that's depressing.
what the fuck do some people have to do to lose?
terry
an opus dei candidate would tear the right apart, no?
Henry Flower
No.
Look at all the Opus Dei types on the Supreme Court right now.
Flory--also I failed to mention music and sex and movies and sex.
Certain styles of trolling finally caught on and began autonomous reproduction.
If Miss Annie and I ever have a child, it will probably end up looking a lot like my left hand.
Have to give NTodd SpecProps -- he badged Mia, and I am grateful for that.
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I never leave when there's a troll infestation because then the trolls win...
Heh heh heh...
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Cats! Playing with a feather!
NTodd, Thersophobic
Some purty kitties you got there.
NTodd--the Catz are all too cute.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
And its so nice to see Sam looking out for the little ones.
Flory--also I failed to mention music and sex and movies and sex.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Not to mention katz and sex, and grandbabies and sex....but maybe you left that last off intentionally.....
NTodd--the Catz are all too cute.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
And its so nice to see Sam looking out for the little ones.
Flory--also I failed to mention music and sex and movies and sex.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Not to mention katz and sex, and grandbabies and sex....but maybe you left that last off intentionally.....
MisterX--a work of art!
Are Oma and Opa X still with you?
How to Handle an Open Thread on Liberal Blogs
Liberals, being the lazy sons of guns that they are, often have open threads on their blogs. That way they can keep visitors interested in talking amongst themselves, keeping them on their blogs without having to actually do any work.
For us conservatives this presents a wonderful opportunity, if we choose to act on it. Remember, anyone is allowed to post on an open thread. There is no determined topic. This is your chance to take control of the blog and direct the flow of conversation the way you want it to go.
Trinity, if you are under the illusion that you are not a blogger(troll) then I agree with you. The (neo-cons) can't take a joke anymore. It's sad, to pity them so, for they are not all bad, just wrong.
Neocons still won't admit that they are neocons, even though trolls admit that they are trolls.
Anyone who cares about anything in this nation can take heed to the fact that they are better than Mark Foley. I'd rather be the lowest of trolls than to be Mormon.
Trinity, if you are under the illusion that you are not a blogger(troll) then I agree with you. The (neo-cons) can't take a joke anymore. It's sad, to pity them so, for they are not all bad, just wrong.
Neocons still won't admit that they are neocons, even though trolls admit that they are trolls.
Anyone who cares about anything in this nation can take heed to the fact that they are better than Mark Foley. I'd rather be the lowest of trolls than to be Mormon.
O DWELLERS IN THE CITY OF LOVE!
Mortal blasts have beset the everlasting candle, and the beauty of the celestial Youth is veiled in the darkness of dust. The chief of the monarchs of love is wronged by the people of tyrrany and the dove of holiness lies prisoned in the talons of owls. The dwellers in the pavilion of glory and the celestial concourse bewail and lament, while ye repose in the realm of negligence, and esteem yourselves as of the true friends. How vain are your imaginings!
Welp, almost finished eating a huge roast for leftowvers I cooked last week. Gah it's good but I'm pretty much roasted out now...
http://bloggingpoints.blogspot.c...on-
liberal.html
Remember to link your source or Ntodd will shoot you in the face.
I still have Honeybaked Ham in the fridge.
An' biscuits in the freez.
Gonna try gravy w/turkey bacon, tomorrow. I have to find an upside to this addiction.
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Flory--well, I think sex was somewhat involved in my having a grandbaby. Just not with me
Today Is Cheney Bush Impeachment Day, December 10th 2006
Ann Altmouse discusses Camille Paglia and underpants. For some reason.
Exactly.
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Thanks for 06, wingnuts!! Americans hate your guts now!!
BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AP calls LA-2 runoff for Jefferson:
"NEW ORLEANS - Democratic U.S. Rep. William Jefferson wins re-election despite an ongoing corruption investigation."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20061...isiana_house_11
DWELLERS IN THE CITY OF LOVE
aka the people of San Francisco
"Quiet Life," by Chad Wackerman
now playing
casa Curly
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I remember SNL was almost relevant once. It was a while ago, though, like 1975.
Flory--well, I think sex was somewhat involved in my having a grandbaby. Just not with me
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Rilly? I thought it had something to do with cabbage patches....
I remember when I was almost relevant. It was a while ago, like 1996.
Look at all the Opus Dei types on the Supreme Court right now.
Terry C, American Once Again |
Ever read "The Illuminatus Trilogy?"
For conspiracy geeks only.
Ever read "The Illuminatus Trilogy?"
haven't read it
Yay!
Just checked the mail, and WKRN re-mailed me the $100!
It's here! I'll scan in the address, so that you may laugh.
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Flory--when a nursing student and a cameraman love each other very much...
Have to give NTodd SpecProps -- he badged Mia, and I am grateful for that.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 12:11 am | #
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truly
im making special eclairs now
Isn't "neocon" still just code for "trouble-making Jew"?
Isn't "Toby Petzold" still just code for "annoying pest"?
Shoelimpy looked into Ojo's eyes and remarked, "Your eyes are like pale opals in a sea of lipid blue pearls" NTodd overheard their conversation and quickly waxed Ojo's sister's clit.
lipid blue
i thought lipids were generally yellow.
maybe he's talking about three day old crisco.
Uploading American Politics
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6120801306.html
Technology won the 2006 elections for the Democrats. No, not electronic voting machines, but the power of the Internet, fueled by innovative applications that let citizens create and publish their own content. The Internet not only changed the balance of power in the House and Senate, it also helped sack the secretary of defense. Welcome to viral democracy....
Blogs, YouTube, instant messaging and more played a critical role in many races. YouTube had a direct impact in two of the tight races that decided control of the Senate: Republican incumbent Conrad Burns vs. Democrat Jon Tester in Montana and GOP incumbent George Allen vs. Democrat James Webb in Virginia.
What type of impact? Search "Conrad Burns" on YouTube.com and you get more than 130 videos, most of them unflattering. The most popular is "Conrad Burns' Naptime," set to "Happy Trails." No fancy production values here -- just a straight-on camera shot of the senator falling asleep during a congressional hearing important to Montana. That video alone received more than 100,000 views.
Dozens of other anti-Burns videos, detailing such things as "pay-to-play" allegations and key gaffes, were seen by many thousands of viewers. In a race that was lost by about 3,000 votes, those YouTube creations had an impact. They may well have pushed Tester across the finish line first.
In Virginia, Allen, who lost by 9,000 or so votes, was the subject of more than 400 videos, 75 of which featured damaging remarks he made at a rally to an Indian American videographer working for Webb. Naturally, video of this "macaca" gaffe almost immediately found its way onto YouTube and the computer screens of people across the country, not to mention into headlines. The top video had nearly 300,000 views, while another, "Allen Staffer Attacks Man," had more than 180,000. Again, when the vote is that close, every impression can make a difference.
The immediate, viral nature of the Internet hurls these missteps onto the all-news networks and out to the world with such velocity that it outpaces a campaign's ability to do damage control. An official campaign response in some morning paper is often immediately undermined by additional discoveries that are researched, posted and disseminated by dozens of partisan bloggers who can have hundreds of thousands of daily visitors to their Web sites.
Are Oma and Opa X still with you?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
No, they've headed back to warmer climes... did you know Miami (gasp) recorded 80 degrees last week! The horror! Luckily OmaX left behind a bunch of lebkuchen, springerle, spritz and other delicious Holiday treats for ChezX...
How's bayou? I trust the holiday is treating you and the mister well?
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Cripes. Let me echo simels from a few weeks ago and note that The Queen is fucking brilliant and Helen Mirren is goddam magnificent. That is all.
US bugged Diana's phone on night of death crash
The American secret service was bugging Princess Diana's telephone conversations without the approval of the British security services on the night she died, according to the most comprehensive report on her death, to be published this week.
Among extraordinary details due to emerge in the report by former Metropolitan police commissioner Lord Stevens is the revelation that the US security service was bugging her calls in the hours before she was killed in a car crash in Paris.
In a move that raises fresh questions over transatlantic agreements on intelligence-sharing, the surveillance arm of the US has admitted listening to her conversations as she stayed at the Ritz hotel, but failed to notify MI6. Stevens is understood to have been assured that the 39 classified documents detailing Diana's final conversations did not reveal anything sinister or contain material that might help explain her death.
Scotland Yard's inquiry, published this Thursday, also throws up further intelligence links with the Princess of Wales on the night she died. The driver of the Mercedes, Henri Paul, was in the pay of the French equivalent of M15. Stevens traced £100,000 he had amassed in 14 French bank accounts though no payments have been linked to Diana's death.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/
u...1968664,00.html
Throws up indeed.
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Isn't "neocon" still just code for "trouble-making Jew"?
No.
really man, you been slack'n.
last chance to see nixon wearing a pussy mask.
Well now what are the odds of two Diana-related comments going up at once on an open thread?
jeanne kirkpatrick is dead. may she rest in heat.
Ever read "The Illuminatus Trilogy?"
haven't read it
Henry Flower |
All conspiracies,Carlos Castenada,
Fabulous Freak Brothers with a little
Maltese Falcon thrown in.
You see all those other conspiracies are REALLY part of a larger,worldwide conspiracy by the Illuminati to Eminitize the Eschaton.
Dates back to Atlantis. Involves everybody from Christ to The Beatles.
The immediate, viral nature of the Internet hurls these missteps onto the all-news networks and out to the world with such velocity that it outpaces a campaign's ability to do damage control.
ha ha
Well now what are the odds of two Diana-related comments going up at once on an open thread?
I think it's like the birthday paradox...
Foot doot.
JeffCO--slow news night, apparently.
That's cause when the chips are down, neolibs are better than neocons.
The Barney extravaganza........ http://www.whitehouse.gov/holida.../
barneycam.html
Well now what are the odds of two Diana-related comments going up at once on an open thread?
JeffCO
Ask Sallyh, she's the mathematician around these parts.
"Quiet Life," by Chad Wackerman
now playing"
seen this?
A Coat of Many Colors
World Drummers Ensemble
Four percussion masters, global leaders in their respective disciplines, come together for a highly-charged musical exchange; explosive, unpredictable, and unusual. Doudou NÕDiaye Rose ( Senagalese master of the sabar ), Chad Wackerman, ( Frank Zappa, Allan Holdsworth ), Luis Conte ( Madonna, Michael Jackson ), and Bill Bruford ( Yes, King Crimson, Earthworks ), are known internationally as the World Drummers Ensemble. For those unfamiliar with, or unpersuaded by, the astonishing and increasing grip of the percussive arts as an innovative force in music across continents, this Dual Disc CD / DVD offers conclusive proof, were any needed, that rhythm beats at the heart of all things.
Speaking of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers:
"Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope."
That, and
Peed Skills!
Skeed Pills!
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I think it's like the birthday paradox... NTodd
Right, having roughly 40 people in a room gives an 80% chance of one of them breaking out with "Nanananananana you say it's your birthday...." before the night is through.
The American secret service was bugging Princess Diana's telephone conversations without the approval of the British security services on the night she died, according to the most comprehensive report on her death, to be published this week.
That's fucking insane. Why?
Ask Sallyh, she's the mathematician around these parts.
What are the odds of having a mathematician on a blog?
What are the odds of having a mathematician on a blog?
NTodd
See: above.
JeffCO--slow news night, apparently. Sallyh
Yeah, but I haven't seen any Diana news- just came back from The Queen.
conspiracy by the Illuminati to Eminitize the Eschaton.
Sounds archetypal.
Is it contagious?
Apocalypto sucked big time.
More normal blogging to resume tomorrow.
I believe in more normal blogging!
Why?
Richard
Just to annoy you...
Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers
I never got into that strip, but I love Gilbert Shelton's "Wonder Wart-Hog and the Nerds of November" book. Actually, considering it depicted a stolen presidential election, it is rather topical even now.
More normal blogging to resume tomorrow.
I believe in more normal blogging!
Normal blogging to me is no different than extraordinary blogging: still no fucking links from EschaWanker.
What are the odds of having a mathematician on a blog?
NTodd, Thersophobic
For exta credit, what are the odds of having a mathematician on a normal blog?
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Good night, sweeties.
that rhythm beats at the heart of all things.
went to a global rhythms concert at the university of north texas at the end of october. saw a gemalan for the first time. was blown away.
Re-HICA!
C U R L E E !
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I learned long ago that you could always count on mathematicians.
time to go walk the dog.
wil put underpants on the mutt before i leave
later moonbeams
Apocalypto sucked big time.
[gasps]
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The American secret service was bugging Princess Diana's telephone conversations without the approval of the British security services on the night she died, according to the most comprehensive report on her death, to be published this week.
That's fucking insane. Why?
Richard |
because monitoring bin Laden wasn't glamorous enough for them.
What are the odds of having a normal mathematician on a normal blog?
No fancy production values here -- just a straight-on camera shot of the senator falling asleep during a congressional hearing important to Montana. That video alone received more than 100,000 views.
I don't buy it, though. Most of the people watching that were Kossacks and Atriots and FDLers, and the even more numerous lurkers. Not undecideds.
The effects of blogs and YouTube are powerful, but more subtle. (1) They make the idiot media feel like they're missing out on something "cool," and this has changed the GOP favorable coverage, not a lot, but a bit, and (2) it's solidified & energized the Dem base.
For exta credit, what are the odds of having a mathematician on a normal blog?
First you compute the tangent...
Someone tell this Duncan Black person that he has cast his BAN net too wide, and innocents are getting trapped as well as the guilty!
What are the odds of having a mathematician on a blog?
Is it greater or less than having a biostatistician on a blog? (Hint: Consider the base rates!)
I remember some winter solstice celebration wher the rainbows celebrated the arival of the moon. It was a good night to play my sax and be nice to the hippies.
Speaking of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers:
"Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope."
Love the Thanksgiving strip w/ the live Turkey.
"Freddy, this turkey is delicious!
Whadidya stuff it with?"
"Didn't have to stuff it.
Wasn't empty."
Thers is such a fucking idiot: he spelled 'subtle' wrong.
The effects of blogs and YouTube are powerful, but more subtle. (1) They make the idiot media feel like they're missing out on something "cool," and this has changed the GOP favorable coverage, not a lot, but a bit, and (2) it's solidified & energized the Dem base.
This comment smells of bacon.
he spelled 'subtle' wrong.
It's spelled "haderach," you plebian dolt.
NASHVILLE ...now tcm
Altman's Nashville starting now on TCM.
Apocalypto sucked big time.
[gasps]
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QuentinCompson | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 12:34 am | #
Okay, okay, nothing new here.
Now that I've literally thrown up a batch of BBQ chips, I think I'll go to bed.
ml8rh9rs.
This comment smells of bacon.
Jeebus wept, 'cause he was a Jew, and kept kosher.
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This thread now contains the word, onamontapia.
I never got into that strip, but I love Gilbert Shelton's "Wonder Wart-Hog and the Nerds of November" book. Actually, considering it depicted a stolen presidential election, it is rather topical even now.
Richard
Best Gilbert Shelton strip ever was "Philbert Desanex's 100,000th Dream"...
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And yet the smell of frying bacon caused his thingy to stiffen, like any male.
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Hey, Kenosha Kid,
that video on your blog is evil man...
http://www.thekenoshakid.blogspot.com/
For exta credit, what are the odds of having a mathematician on a normal blog?
on a blog? you must first factor in the standard deviantation...
Someone tell this Duncan Black person that he has cast his BAN net too wide, and innocents are getting trapped as well as the guilty!
The Kenosha Kid
The ones who should be banned aren't.
Being sent to Atrios' virtual Guantanamo wouldn't be so bad, but I am sharing a cell with Shoelimpy and Annieangel!!
It's spelled "haderach," you plebian dolt.
It's spelled 'fuckwaddle,' you bonecracking septegenerian.
This comment smells of bacon.
Just because I'm pretty you sexist fucks thing I don't have a BRAIN.
Wait, there's bacon?
And yet the smell of frying bacon caused his thingy to stiffen, like any male.
Jeffraham, you should write romance novels
Best Gilbert Shelton strip ever was "Philbert Desanex's 100,000th Dream"...
The prayer at supper scene was a classic.
Two TSA screeners were caught pilfering jewelry from luggage, while another was found smuggling more than $80,000 in an attempt to avoid reporting income brought into the country. Another team of four screeners targeted Japanese tourists until one was caught stealing up to $1,800 from checked luggage.
Many of the offenses involved getting contraband past barriers. Two federal air marshals were snared by a DHS and FBI investigation that found the marshals had sought and accepted a bribe to shepherd 15 kilograms of cocaine through airports. Two guards at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement prison sold alcohol and cigarettes to the illegal immigrants in their custody.
http://www.thefourreasons.org
that video on your blog is evil man...
That video was posted specifically to torture Eli. It's not safe for mortals to view.
Jeebus wept, 'cause he was a Jew, and kept kosher.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 12:38 am | #
Curly cut him off..........
Richard | 12.10.06 - 12:23 am | #
i think this is true. i hope the dumbocrats will remember this/notice.
the weapon surely works both ways.
unless "they" disable the internest. i'll say this, if not for the internets, i'd never would have cast a vote. to date, none of my votes have resulted in the desired effect, well, john kerry's primary, but he was already in.
This thread now contains the word
Hyperpolysyllabicsqepedarism.
"Didn't have to stuff it.
Wasn't empty."
flint
HAHAHA! That was pretty damn funny, too. And I tell that story every Thanksgiving...
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Apocalypto sucked big time.
pigboy
And you willingly put money in Mel Gibson's pocket -- why?
sallyh -- did Mam'selle go back to nursing school?
And yet the smell of frying bacon caused his thingy to stiffen, like any male.
Jeffraham, you should write romance novels
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.10.06 - 12:39 am | #
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The smell of fish tends to make some men think harder.
What are the odds of having a mathematician on a blog?
Do you mean gay mathematicians or not? The Vegas line need to know.
Sallyh: Jeffraham, you should write romance novels
It may come as a great surprise for you to learn that you are not the first woman to tell me this.
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It's spelled "haderach," you plebian dolt.
Thers
NO FLIRTING!!!!
Two TSA screeners were caught pilfering jewelry from luggage, while another was found smuggling more than $80,000 in an attempt to avoid reporting income brought into the country. Another team of four screeners targeted Japanese tourists until one was caught stealing up to $1,800 from checked luggage.
Many of the offenses involved getting contraband past barriers. Two federal air marshals were snared by a DHS and FBI investigation that found the marshals had sought and accepted a bribe to shepherd 15 kilograms of cocaine through airports. Two guards at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement prison sold alcohol and cigarettes to the illegal immigrants in their custody.
Oh boy! No wonder the tourist trade is so bad. All that crap and possible life time detention really can be a turn off.
Being sent to Atrios' virtual Guantanamo wouldn't be so bad, but I am sharing a cell with Shoelimpy and Annieangel!!
The Kenosha Kid
Don't drop the virtual soap.
The prayer at supper scene was a classic.
Richard
The first time I read that, I fell off my chair laughing. Literally.
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The ones who should be banned aren't.
Who was actually banned?
Wanna see the check?
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Well I am going to sleep. Hopefully when I wake up I will be un-banned.
that video on your blog is evil man...
That video was posted specifically to torture Eli. It's not safe for mortals to view.
The Kenosha Kid
Translation:
O Mickey, you're so fine
You're so fine
You blow my mind
Hey Mickey...........
This thread now contains the word, onamontapia.
That sounds like a real word, but it isn't.
Atrios will grant work release for certain favors. You didn't hear that from me.
Apocalypto sucked big time.
pigboy
And you willingly put money in Mel Gibson's pocket -- why?
sallyh -- did Mam'selle go back to nursing school?
flory | 12.10.06 - 12:41 am | #
Nope.. I got in FREE A friend manages the theater..... But I was still tempted to ask for a refund.
The first time I read that, I fell off my chair laughing. Literally.
Another favorite sequence of mine in that book is the scene involving a 1951 Nash Rambler at the Indy 500.
HAHAHA! That was pretty damn funny, too. And I tell that story every Thanksgiving...
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MisterX
My youngest boy left the giblet bag in the first time it was his turn to cook, in spite of hearing that every Thanksgiving.
That's fucking insane. Why?
Richard
because we can.
this is the danger of technology.
i'm really against all the new fangled genetic tech i've read about. then i think, if it were me in that lonely darkened lab, would i do it? damn fuck'n straight. humans are curious monkeys.
This thread now contains the word, onamontapia.
That sounds like a real word, but it isn't.
BAM!
God help the hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobics. Just sayin'.
Two TSA screeners were caught pilfering jewelry from luggage
I'm sorry -- and I hope I don't offend anyone here -- but how stoopit do you have to be to leave valuables in luggage THAT YOU CAN'T FUCKING LOCK??!!!!?!!??
Here is something close and it sounds kinda cool...
One entry found for onomatopoeia.
Main Entry: on·o·mato·poe·ia
Pronunciation: "ä-n&-"mä-t&-'pE-&, -"ma-
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Latin, from Greek onomatopoiia, from onomat-, onoma name + poiein to make -- more at POET
1 : the naming of a thing or action by a vocal imitation of the sound associated with it (as buzz, hiss)
2 : the use of words whose sound suggests the sense
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/
dicti...va=onomatopoeia
Two TSA screeners were caught pilfering jewelry from luggage
Two?! Fucking two? Then the billion dollar program is a resounding success.
Another term for Shrub, I say!
Flory--she's got four classes to go before she can enroll.
Pigboy drives a Ford.
Flory--while I agree that storing valuables in one's checked luggage is not exactly brilliant, the fact is, TSA has proven itself to be a debacle.
Another favorite sequence of mine in that book is the scene involving a 1951 Nash Rambler at the Indy 500.
Richard
HA!
Speaking of which, I have always abided by "Gilbert Sheltons Advanced Motoring Tips"... like
How to steer you big Detroit Boat around corners without spilling the martini on the dash...
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Velvet Underground Rarity Sells on EBay
By VERENA DOBNIK
The Associated Press
Saturday, December 9, 2006; 10:01 PM
NEW YORK -- Forty years after it was made, The Velvet Underground's first recording has become a financial hit - in cyberspace.
Bought for 75 cents four years ago at a Manhattan flea market, the rare recording of music that ended up on the influential New York band's first album, "The Velvet Underground & Nico," sold on eBay for a closing bid of $155,401.
The buyer is a mystery, only identified by the eBay screen name: "mechadaddy."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6120900687.html
I remember that album coming out and hearing it at a dorm room party in Florida and thinking: brilliant marketing.
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Flory--she's got four classes to go before she can enroll.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
So she's gone back to school? Good for her.
One entry found for onomatopoeia.
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/
tod...a_20138193.html
Flory--Grandma babysits so Mom can study
It may come as a great surprise for you to learn that you are not the first woman to tell me this.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
i met this french slacker guy in miami who made his living doing this. he was very intelligent, charming, talented, and intelligent. he was also very dismissive of the the classics. he said in europe they have already read that crap, they want sex trash.
Pigboy drives a Ford.
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Fords hate me. They don't like me and they won't run for me. They would rather break down on a busy freeway than be driven by me.
On the other hand my Dodge Veg-o-matic........ now that is a car for all seasons and clearly love the attention I give her.
My youngest boy left the giblet bag in the first time it was his turn to cook, in spite of hearing that every Thanksgiving.
flint
Reminds me of when I used to stop at this one convenience store that sold (for 75¢) a "Cup of Gizzards"...
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Flory--while I agree that storing valuables in one's checked luggage is not exactly brilliant, the fact is, TSA has proven itself to be a debacle.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Ya think the folks running it WANT it to succeed?
the fact is, TSA has proven itself to be a debacle.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
No question about that. At least before they came along you could lock the damn bag and hope the baggage handlers stayed away. Now there's no fucking hope -- baggage handlers and TSA both get to rifle thru your undies....
Fucking Republican Military/Security/Industrial Complex...let's pass every tax dollar we can on to our campaign contributors....
You can deliver a baby in the back of my Cadillac anytime, I'll even do a reach around circumcision.
how stoopit do you have to be to leave valuables in luggage THAT YOU CAN'T FUCKING LOCK??!!!!?!!??
It's irresponsible to lock this luggage -- otherwise the kids can't get out in an emergency.
You need to think these things through. Duh.
Anyone know the story behind the Kenosha Kid's comment? Who is caught up in the "BAN net"?
P Diddy on SNL.
http://www.thefourreasons.org/crimes.htm
http://www.thefourreasons.org/crimes.htm
I thought "onomatopoeia" was words that sound like they mean... Poe used a lot of those, right?
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the use of words whose sound suggests the sense
There are alot of words like that, like 'crack.'
Flory--Grandma babysits so Mom can study
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Grandma's a very wonderful woman....
Flory--I love it on return trips. I make sure my used lingerie is on top.
And, "Cup of Gizzards" would be a great name for a band.
Or a boat.
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Hey.
Serious time.
Help Mia, and I'll help you.
Deal?
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click
I make sure my used lingerie is on top.
Are we still talking about omelets?
Poe(Voltaire) used them well, Neocons(Machiavellians)try to learn.
I make sure my used lingerie is on top. Sallyh
A wonderful and strange woman.
From the piece of shit blog of the Little Sociopath(TM) just now:
Over at Eschaton, it looks like “neocon” is still the officially sponsored codeword for “troublemaking Jew.”
What an embarrassment it must be to find one’s groupies so filled with Judenhass that they practically turn one’s place into a hate site.
Did I miss something alarming?
JeffCO: A wonderful and strange woman.
I do love her so.
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The best way to cook a turkey is to mix popcorn in with the dressing.
When the dressing blows out the turkeys ass, the turkey is done.
It's an old Norwegian secret.
Steve--why are you wasting time at the Little Sociopath's(TM) blog?
Why can't you just watch porn like normal men?
pigboy: When the dressing blows out the turkeys ass, the turkey is done.
It's an old Norwegian secret.
I get the distinct feeling you're blowing something up my ass, actually.
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I thought "onomatopoeia" was words that sound like they mean... Poe used a lot of those, right?
Onomatopoeia was a word only used in college by chicks who were really hot, but dressed mainly in black, and seemed perpetually distracted.
Thus ends tonight's episode of Masterpiece Stereotype Theater.
It's irresponsible to lock this luggage -- otherwise the kids can't get out in an emergency.
Oh, sure. Try and sneak a few of the 8,495 urchins thru ticketing without paying. And then complain cause one or two ends up in Peoria....
What's the lost baggage reimbursement for lost urchins?
Did I miss something alarming?
No, I think you caught it all... Gah. You have weird Internets reading habits.
Did I miss something alarming?
steve simels
the last 6 years?
fuck toby, or any of the rest of the trool shit. i'm all about live and let live. but sometimes i wonder.
I get the distinct feeling you're blowing something up my ass, actually.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:03 am | #
So much for old Norwegian secrets.....
Now, with the Nguyen Le... what a mofo.
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Not to dip my toes in the shit, but
What the fuck does:
Over at Eschaton, it looks like “neocon” is still the officially sponsored codeword for “troublemaking Jew.”
even mean?
Is that what they're pushing now?
So sad.
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Why can't you just watch porn like normal men?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.10.06 - 1:02 am | #
As Madeleine Kahn says in Blazing Saddles -- everything below my waist is kaput!
Is it safe to come out and play?
Did I miss something alarming? steve simels
Let's see, so Tobot comes here, says something anti-Semitic, attributes it to us, goes back to his blog and calls us Jew-haters.
Nope, same old same old.
Way to go South Louisiana, as always!! Make us all look stoopidly corrupt in this state again!!
As Madeleine Kahn says in Blazing Saddles -- everything below my waist is kaput!
steve simels | 12.10.06 - 1:05 am | #
She was great.
Flory--I think it's about .10/lb
It's funny to blog with people I tend to agree with.
Yet the right wing bloggers swear less, have better manners, and care about tangible facts.
After taking the skinheads bowling today, it became clear who the city mouse loves.
Vicki: Is it safe to come out and play?
You want I should hold your hand...?
.
You want I should hold your hand...?
You crazy Beatle, you!
What's brown and sounds like a bell?
Steve--but we could just pretend to have a cheap and tawdry affair without doing the work
AtP -- you just went in the Greasemonkey script. Been nice knowin' ya... NOT!
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It's an old Norwegian secret.
pigboy
Um, does that even work?
Because I'm gonna try that now.
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And, "Cup of Gizzards" would be a great name for a band.
Or a boat.
Or, "Mess o' Smelt" - on a Big Boy menu in London, ON, and where they should have stayed.
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Yet the right wing bloggers swear less, have better manners, and care about tangible facts.
You almost had me, but you had to go over the top with that last one.
Vicki: You crazy Beatle, you!
I look like Sir Paul, only 20 years younger, 35 lbs. heavier, and not quite so cute.
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I can say something nice about anyone. That's what being a true Liberal is.
“Stealing someone’s private phone records is a criminal act that can now be prosecuted,” Schumer said. “Phone information and call logs should be protected with the same safeguards as financial data or medical records. With pretexting companies popping-up across the country, law enforcement will get the tools needed to track down these criminals down and put this industry out of business.”
The TRAPP Act will make it a federal offense, punishable as a felony, to obtain customer information from a telephone service provider by false pretenses or access a customer account on the Internet to obtain billing information without authorization. The bill also makes it a crime for phone company employees to sell customer information without proper authorization. The bill applies to cell, landline, and (VOIP) phone records. An identical version of Schumer’s legislation passed the House 409-0.
Yet the right wing bloggers swear less, have better manners, and care about tangible facts.
Every single one of your comments are subjective. It depends upon every individual definition of swearing, for example. Manners are for Missing People (who gives a fuck about manners? As long as you're doing no harm and hurting no one, it really doesn't matter. And no, swearing and sex talk doesn't constitute "hurting someone"). And caring about tangible facts? Not even close. The right gets the facts wrong, on purpose, again and again, and again. Facts are inconvenient truths for righties.
It's an old Norwegian secret.
pigboy
Um, does that even work?
Because I'm gonna try that now.
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MisterX | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:09 am | #
Don't! I got that from a guy at work who tried to convience me to hold a flashlight to my face at night so the hard of hearing guy I worked with could read my lips!
Or, "Mess o' Smelt" - on a Big Boy menu in London, ON, and where they should have stayed.
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QuentinCompson
Man, I LOVE smelt (in garlic and butter), but it always makes me laugh when I order the past tense of "smell"...
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I get the distinct feeling you're blowing something up my ass, actually.
So much for old Norwegian secrets.....
Sounds like someone's got Norwegian wood.
Flory--I love it on return trips. I make sure my used lingerie is on top.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Smellier the better. Bloody is good too!!!
Sounds like you need a Swede.
Sounds like someone's got Norwegian wood.
It's 1:09 AM, and I wouldn't mind a little Norwegian Wood at the moment.
Especially from a Viking who took his Enzyte.
I can say something nice about anyone. That's what being a true Liberal is.
Well, at least you're slightly funnier than usual.
I can say something nice about anyone. That's what being a true Liberal is.
Let's put a stick up your ass, and then, we can call you a corn dog! Yay!
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No. But anybody that runs for the president will have to go through Ohio, literally and figuratively.The Democrats need to nominate somebody that will be an economic populist, that will stand up for the middle class, that doesn't just want to increase the minimum wage but somebody that will work to put the government on the side of working families. And that means different trade policy, standing up to the drug industry, taking on the oil industry. It means showing that the Democratic Party is a progressive, populist party. "
In other words, Brown is letting the field know that any Democrat who wants a chance to win Ohio - and thus win the presidency - better get on board with the kind of economic populism he used to win the most politically important swing state in the country.
You almost had me, but you had to go over the top with that last one.
JeffCO | 12.10.06 - 1:10 am | #
Same here.
It's 1:09 AM, and I wouldn't mind a little Norwegian Wood at the moment.
Especially from a Viking who took his Enzyte. Vicki
Call Dr. Robert.
It's 1:09 AM, and I wouldn't mind a little Norwegian Wood at the moment.
Especially from a Viking who took his Enzyte.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Oh, lookie!! Vicki's joined the party!!
Hi sweetie....
And that means different trade policy, standing up to the drug industry, taking on the oil industry. It means showing that the Democratic Party is a progressive, populist party.
It means:
Al Gore.
I try to swear less, honestly!
"I hate these wingnut shithea."
florita!
I can say something nice about anyone. That's what being a true Liberal is.
More anti-Aztec bigotry. You make me sick.
Especially from a Viking who took his Enzyte.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
"Enzyte Viking" would be a great name for a band.
Or a boat!
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I get the feeling that Atrios never calls attention to second-rate nutjobs like Kaye Grogan and Pammycakes because he doesn't want to give them a platform just for being stupid and delusional.
This, I applaud. However, I also make sure to stop by to check out these entertaining weirdos
Every time I watch an Atlas Shrugs viddy, I expect to see guys busting down the door with a straightjacket in hand.
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it's not about being a liberal. what the fuck does that even mean? is that like a dirty fuck'n hippie?
it's about tangible facts. and it is incontrovertible that america was lied to about the casus belli for attacking iraq.
start with the aluminum tubes...
Vicki -- Install Skype™, and get some Teledildonics™ hardware.
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“This is the fleecing of America,” said Anthony D’Armiento, a systems engineer who has worked for Northrop and the Coast Guard on the project. “It is the worst contract arrangement I’ve seen in all my 20 plus years in naval engineering.”
Insufficient oversight by the Coast Guard resulted in the service buying some equipment it did not want and ignoring repeated warnings from its own engineers that the boats and ships were poorly designed and perhaps unsafe, the agency acknowledged. The Deepwater program’s few Congressional skeptics were outmatched by lawmakers who became enthusiastic supporters, mobilized by an aggressive lobbying campaign financed by Lockheed and Northrop.
And the contractors failed to fulfill their obligation to make sure the government got the best price, frequently steering work to their subsidiaries or business partners instead of competitors, according to government auditors and people affiliated with the program.
"I hate these wingnut shithea."
Thers
Fuc. You used a bad word. I'm telling.
Oh, we're playin limbo again, how low can you go? You can never go lower than scum like me.
I look like Sir Paul, only 20 years younger, 35 lbs. heavier, and not quite so cute.
You have the face of a misanthropic angel.
mel gibson | 12.10.06 - 1:16 am |
Your movie sucked. Way too violent and silly.
"I hate these wingnut shithea."
Thers
And you sir, crack me up! Thanks!
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Thers swears.
BEDDIE BYE
PEEPS
HELP
MIA
http://home.comcast.net/~jeffrah...am/
miastory.htm
WE LUV ALLLOF USZ!!
Especially from a Viking who took his Enzyte.
The Irish name "McLoughlin" means "son of the Viking."
Really.
anybody that runs for the president will have to go through Ohio
So the fate of the globe perpetually depends on the political whims of the 2nd shift NavStar frame welder.
I ain't buying that argument anymore.
You have the face of a misanthropic angel.
Are you always this funny, or are you just happy to see me?
hums to self--3d rate rooomance, low rent rendevouz
It means:
Al Gore.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:16 am | #
Bingo.
I can't think of another potential Dem candidate for 08 that I have any enthusiasm for whatsoever.
And fuck Obama. Why? That piety shit,
for starters, and secondly the whole
"I'm not contaminated by that old Baby Boomer thinking" crapola.
Get yourself to the back of the bus already, you self-righteous poser.
Vicki -- Install Skype™, and get some Teledildonics™ hardware.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:17 am | #
"I'm back on the Oregon coast and the cell phone reception here still sucks. I decided to give Skype a try to see if it would work, since you can make outgoing calls" http://www.firedoglake.com/categ...ry/blogosphere/
Bingo, Simels.
I've longed for you, since I've not seen much of you lately, by the way.
Rrrrrwwwwhaarrrhhhhhhhh.
Are you always this funny, or are you just happy to see me? Vicki
You well know I'm very clever, and I'm always happy to see you!
Wingnuts still curse they just do it like this: f**k. Just more proof of their hypocrisy, to me.
mel gibson | 12.10.06 - 1:16 am |
Your movie sucked. Way too violent and silly.
pigboy | 12.10.06 - 1:18 am | #
Anybody who doesn't like my new movie "Apocalypto" (in theaters everywhere) is obviously an anti-Aztec bigot.
By the way, that cop that pulled me over was an obvious Aztec-hater.
Oh, we're playin Limbaugh again, how low can you go? You can never go lower than scum like me.
Achilles the Psycho
Fixed your typo.
JeffCO is clever like clover that I want to roll over...
I'd vote for Obama, I'd even kill for him.
Get yourself to the back of the bus already, you self-righteous poser. steve simels
Now you're just begging the Little Sociopath™ to quote you on his pieceofshitblog™.
JeffCO: You have the face of a misanthropic angel.
I love my neighbor, but people SUCK!
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Welp, I'm glad the Shoelimpy/annieangel barrel-fart finally cleared out.
Rrrrrwwwwhaarrrhhhhhhhh.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:21 am | #
Good to see you too, doll.
And fuck Obama. Why? That piety shit,
for starters, and secondly the whole
"I'm not contaminated by that old Baby Boomer thinking" crapola.
Not to mention he has exactly zero experience for the job at the moment. He's *less* qualified than Fredo was in 1998. And that's a fucking scary concept.
And fuck Obama. Why? That piety shit,
for starters, and secondly the whole
"I'm not contaminated by that old Baby Boomer thinking" crapola.
I bet he's the nominee, though.
My theory is that Americans are stupid, and that Obama is telegenic, and therefore he will win the nomination and the presidency.
Bets?
Hi-ho, Steverino!
When's your blog making it's long-awaited debut???
Get yourself to the back of the bus already, you self-righteous poser.
steve simels
Racist.
Urm - I find myself unusually ambivalent over Gwen Stefani's first number on SNL. Can't.... look.... away....
Wingnuts still curse they just do it like this: f**k. Just more proof of their hypocrisy, to me.
Ô¿Ô |
Carlin: "women say "shoot",but they're not foolin' me. Shoot is just Shit with two "O"s.
JeffCO is clever like clover that I want to roll over...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
You're flirting. I don't think Thers has allowed flirting tonite.
"beyond the pale" means vikings suck, really.
then again, i'm married to one.
Anybody who doesn't like my new movie "Apocalypto" (in theaters everywhere) is obviously an anti-Aztec bigot.
By the way, that cop that pulled me over was an obvious Aztec-hater.
mel gibson | 12.10.06 - 1:22 am | #
It seemed that the Aztecs hated the Aztecs the way they were cutting off all those heads and rolling them down the sides of those pyrimids by the hundreds, maybe even thousands with all those decapitated bodies filling that huge pit....
Bets?
Thers
Gore by 10.
I don't know if you guys saw this week's NYMagazine, but the cover story was about how Bloomberg could quite possibly run as an Independent pres candidate in 08.
Let's say he does, and the Dem nominee is Hillary and the Repug nominee is McCain (or any other Repug).
I could almost see voting for Bloomberg-- assuming I didn't believe it would throw the election to the Repugs.
That's how much I don't want Hillary to be president.
What do you guys think?
Y'all saw the braintrust at my local TV station, no?
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BTW, rabbit blogging!
It's in your grocer's freezer.
Now They Want To Trash The Second Amendment
My theory is that Americans are stupid, and that Obama is telegenic, and therefore he will win the nomination and the presidency.
Bets?
Thers
Won't make any bets against him being the nominee. I hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Preznit? Nope. A dark skinned Democrat with an islamofascist name will never carry the south, or the west.
I liked THIS...
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Racist. nashville
Hah! Called it!
Get yourself to the back of the bus already, you self-righteous poser.
steve simels
Racist.
nashville
Proving once again that Pete Hamill was right when he said "Never employ irony in a third world country."
Go fuck yourself.
I gotta admit, Atrios is a very tolerant blog owner. This dude is solid to the core.
I'd vote for Obama, I'd even kill for him.
Achilles the Psycho
Would you die for him?
You really need to prove it.
Don Rumsfeld flew to Iraq to say goodbye to his troops. This is truly a testament to a great man, unfairly railroaded from office before he could complete the mission by the jackals of the far left press. I for one salute this man of honor.
Steve Simels,
I am not a fan of Hillary, at all, but I'd vote for her if she ends up being the nominee.
I hope not. Done with dynasties.
Rumor has it Obama has a big dick, and likes to use it.
And here's a little Xmas gift... Roger McGuinn doing an instrumental version of "Joy to the World" on his Richenbacher...
You're flirting. I don't think Thers has allowed flirting tonite. flory
I slipped him a rasher earlier.
That's how much I don't want Hillary to be president.
What do you guys think?
steve simels
Assuming the Repugs don't nominate Brownback -- and maybe even then -- I think a Bloomberg independent run would guarantee a Republican preznit.
My theory is that Americans are stupid, and that Obama is telegenic, and therefore he will win the nomination and the presidency.
Bets?
Thers
In spite of the "Obama,Osama" ads the rethugs already have in the can?
I wonder if Obama has ever been seen at a party with White Women present?
Preznit? Nope. A dark skinned Democrat with an islamofascist name will never carry the south, or the west.
My theory is that Americans will elect the person who looks best on TV. Period.
My best ticket would be Gore/Obama.
I slipped him a rasher earlier.
JeffCO
Geez...he's easy....
I liked THIS...
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MisterX | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:28 am | #
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I liked that too.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...EPFDIzhNA&
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I could do Gore/Obama. Not nuts about Obama - his vote on the bankruptcy bill sucked worse than my Dyson sucks the cobwebs out of GWB's brain - but he is appealing to people who don't follow politics all that closely.
So my new movie "Apocalypto" (from Touchstone Pictures, in theaters everywhere now) has gotten some bad reviews.
Fucking anti-Aztec media.
I would never die for anyone dork, I'd kill first. If I had a choice between dying for my kids or killing for them, I'd rather teach them to kill those who repress feminism in the name of God.
My theory is that Americans will elect the person who looks best on TV. Period
In which case Edwards wins. Cause good lookin' southren whiteboy is gonna beat good looking negro with funny name any day of the week.
Geez...he's easy.... flory
Not really. He made me put back the fat I'd trimmed off.
Where are all the new trolls coming from? It's fucking bizarre...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore :
Without using the Google, I seem to recall that Obama actually didn't vote for the bankruptcy bill, and that somehow he's gotten a bad rap about it.
Man pretends to be pregnant to play hooky from work
2006/11/28 Pravda
There are plenty of funny excuses invented by those who didn’t want to go to work. However the one invented by a young South African is one of the most original and funny. He pretended to be pregnant to play hooky from work and tried to cover it with a fake gynaecologist's certificate.
A young South African has been fined by a local court for playing hooky from work and trying to cover it with a fake gynaecologist's certificate attesting he was pregnant and needed a week off.
http://www.martinfrost.ws/
htmlfi..._pregnancy.html
uh, the got that railroaded rumsfeld was bush, the cut and runner in chief
My ticket, oh, fuck who knows at this point, but maybe I'd cast a little love towards Wes Clark as Veep. I'm not even sure that the man is considering running.
BTW, rabbit blogging!
When I a kid, my family had a pet rabbit. He played mind games with the neighbourhood dog. The dog would take runs at him, but the rabbit would keep perfectly still, until the dog got a few feet away. Then, the rabbit would casually jump a few feet in the air vertically, while the dog raced another 30 feet before it could stop. This would go on until the dog got exhausted. Stupid dog.
Where are all the new trolls coming from? It's fucking bizarre...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
They're testing the 2007 models.
Wait, wasn't I promised a rasher...?
"Isn't "neocon" still just code for "trouble-making Jew"?"
No, it's shorthand for "Damnfool ignorant cocksucking motherfucking schmuck".
As schmuck is a Yiddish word, I can see where you'd be confused, Toby.
What do you guys think?
steve simels
i don't want hillary.
thers' suggestion is a thing i've thought of, and not a bad scenario.
what i really think, it's going to mccain or hillary, and i think it's going to be hillary.
Not really. He made me put back the fat I'd trimmed off.
JeffCO
ummm....before or after you'd digested it?
They might actually elect the man with the best voice. We don't really know. Obama has the best voice in recorded political history.
SNL with Annette Benning was funny tonight. Self-hating towns and their residents: Memory is a funny thing, and you never know when a web of associations will spin away from something and veer off into a completely new direction, completely different in tone and emotional resonance. My flashback, inspired by an SNL skit with Benning called “I Hate This Town,” took me back to a very different meditation on self-hatred -- a vivid essay I read a while back that intertwines the theme of urban decay and moral decay to fashion a powerful statement on self-loathing.
I don't want either of them. Obama or Hillary
This is my friend, NTodd playing standup bass. See if you can dig it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...h?
v=DANkec2NY4w
So the ticket will be:
The Webcam Babe from "Heroes"
and the latest "Law and Order" Detective substitute/ Designated Babe?
WHATTA COUNTRY!
Hey, remember, the tall guy was supposed to win too.
Wait, wasn't I promised a rasher...? Thers
Sorry, that was one of my less well considered offers.
Hillary will be a huge problem for the Dems in '08.
Hell, she's been around big league politics long enough to tell you that herself.
Rabbits are weird.
Obama voted for cloture but against the bill. Which, to me, means that he voted for it before he voted against it.
Should have been a discussion.
I don't want either of them. Obama or Hillary
pigboy
nor do i. i'm hoping vicki gets lucky and gore changes his mind. if not him -- then edwards or clark....
Uh, that last mel gibson post about Obama was me.
Je regrette l'erreur.
Sorry, that was one of my less well considered offers.
JeffCO | 12.10.06 - 1:39 am | #
it was rasher than some, that's for sure.
Malajube "Montreal -40°C"
It's french, I don't understand a word of it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U...=UHwSk8bFS4M&
NR
I'll cry real human tears if I have to vote for Hillary.
Evening
Evening
ummm....before or after you'd digested it? flory
I only eat facon, though I greatly enjoy saying snausages.
Speaking of not going to work, I get my one free vacation day this year, I'm going to dedicate it to dumbass bloggers that don't know how to fix anything. That is what is great about being an independent, you can mock anyone on your free time. If you have a question about your puny vehicle, ask away, it's my charitable donation to this blog.
Sorry, that was one of my less well considered offers.
Whoo-hoo! I get to cut from JeffCO a pound of rashers!
Where are all the new trolls coming from?
Nothing new. News shades of lipstick are being applied to the old pig.
I don't want either of them. Obama or Hillary
pigboy
nor do i. i'm hoping vicki gets lucky and gore changes his mind. if not him -- then edwards or clark....
flory | 12.10.06 - 1:40 am | #
Sounds good to me. You can be sure the talk over the next two years will be about the Presidential elections rather than the cluster left by the repukes.
Obama voted for cloture but against the bill. Which, to me, means that he voted for it before he voted against it.
which to me means he's been running for preznit since he got elected. the only reason to play that dance is to be able to go out on the campaign trail and tell people you voted "against" a bill, while still keeping your big money campaign contributors happy.
Prostitution is what it is. Joe Lieberman being one of its oldest practitioners.
Somebody needs to broker a deal for a SCOTUS seat for Hillary.
DWD--
You're up late...
Je regrette l'erreur.
steve simels
Nothing new. News shades of lipstick are being applied to the old pig.
Richard
Is this some sort of code?
I wish I were more confident in this country's willingness to choose a white woman or black man for President.
BTW, with Obama, I'm predicting, not advocating. I'd like Gore, myself.
Gore/Clark please
I blame Connecticut.
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Have I been railing about anti-Aztec bigotry?
I think I actually mean anti-Mayan bigotry.
Damn, I'm drunk.
I wish I were more confident in this country's willingness to choose a white woman or black man for President.
I'm willing. But it has to be the right person. Hillary isn't the right person. Nor is Obama.
Hell, I was hoping for the right man in 2000. But thieves won out.
Is this some sort of code?
Thers makes little kissy noises to his bacon before he eats it. That's all.
They've already outfoxed Hilary. She still needs to rehabilitate herself from the stigmas of the 90's. But the media keeps quiet about these things, and will unpack them whole once she gets the nomination.
If you have a question about your puny vehicle, ask away, it's my charitable donation to this blog.
Achilles the Psycho
OK -- why has my magic automobile not carried you away from here and back to pajamaonlineidiots where you belong?
I'm going to attempt hillbilly gravy tomorrow with turkey bacon. I have snausage and ham at the ready, though.
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Hello any Atriots present, I tried to Google "gay chat atlanta" and got guys impersonating lesbians, not my thing
So who's around, not impersonating lesbians?
Ojo, It's fun to fix your sister's car, she pays well.
Am I too late to yell Fuck Bush?
Am I too late to yell Fuck Bush?
Somebody needs to broker a deal for a SCOTUS seat for Hillary.
Irving R. Feldman
Sombody would need pictures of Fredo blowing a goat -- with Bar cheerleading -- to get him to nominate Hillary to SCOTUS.
I won't be impersonating a lesbian until I go to bed, Draco. At which time, I may dream of a lesbian. You never know.
Nothing new. News shades of lipstick are being applied to the old pig.
Richard
Omg! Things have really gotten out of contol! Lipstick on a pig! Is that some kind of code......
Is this some sort of code?
Only hetero bacteria scum can understand it, fag.
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BTW, with Obama, I'm predicting, not advocating. I'd like Gore, myself.
Thers | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:43 am | #
I actually think Gore has the real momentum on his side.
After all, Bush's poll numbers are down to 27, and the Dixie Chicks are poised to win multiple Grammys.
What could complete the repudiation of the current junta and all their works more than a Gore presidency?
Steve,
I am up late. Just having a hell of a bad day with the back: need more medication and I took the last at 11:30.
I hope things are going well for you. It is a long time since we visited.
Steve,
I am up late. Just having a hell of a bad day with the back: need more medication and I took the last at 11:30.
I hope things are going well for you. It is a long time since we visited.
Should have been a discussion.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
should be a lot of things. obama is not so bad as people make out. remember, "we" are the extreme left. that being said, flory is right.
i so hope it's not hillary, and i really, really, hope it's not mccain, or for that matter any republicans. one thing i've becomed convinced of in near 50 years of living, republicans are evil. i'm not just saying that.
What could complete the repudiation of the current junta and all their works more than a Gore presidency?
STANDING OVATION!!!
applause!
simels:
I asked you earlier and you didn't answer -- do you really think the Chicks are gonna win some Grammys?
I wish I were more confident in this country's willingness to choose a white woman or black man for President.
See, I do think Hillary/Obama would win. It would be an Irresistible Story.
If the US media loves Obama then there is something wrong with him.
Hilary's not qualified for the Supreme Court. She's not qualified to be President. She's not qualified to design or broker a healthcare plan, she's not qualified to run foreign policy, she's not even qualified to ask questions at a hearing.
But I'll tell you one thing, if Jesus himself is running on the Rethug ticket against Hillary, count one for Clinton from here.
I just don't like the same families repeatedly given the keys to the really nice national car.
flory,
I think the Chicks are sentimental favorites...but beyond that, some of the best music they've recorded is on that album.
Although I'm not Steve Simels, I'm not with Steve Simels, and I truly regret that error.
simels:
I asked you earlier and you didn't answer -- do you really think the Chicks are gonna win some Grammys?
flory | 12.10.06 - 1:48 am | #
Hell yeah. And the show is in LA this year.
It's gonna be beautiful. Total anti-Bush spectacle.
Pscho2 is not qualified to write a responsible sentance.
I'm willing. But it has to be the right person. Hillary isn't the right person. Nor is Obama.
I wish I could remember which blog I read it on, but someone had this really interesting post describing what Obama had done in the Senate, which made the case that Obama went out of his way to make any real stands at all, as if the guy's plan was to remain a cipher and run entirely on his media image.
See, I do think Hillary/Obama would win. It would be an Irresistible Story.
Thers
The combination of Hillary and the negro would not win a single state outside the northeast. Might very well equal McGovern's record breaking electoral vote.
Hell yeah. And the show is in LA this year.
It's gonna be beautiful. Total anti-Bush spectacle.
steve simels
Damn. I might actually have to watch for a change!!
Thers makes little kissy noises to his bacon before he eats it. That's all.
Apologize.
I am offended by the implication that any time elapses between (1) the sensing of bacon and (2) the ingestion of same.
oops. That should read:
Obama went out of his way to NOT make any real stands at all
Bush's not qualified for the Supreme Court. He's not qualified to be President. He's not qualified to design or broker a healthcare plan, he's not qualified to run foreign policy, he's not even qualified to ask questions at a hearing.
psycho2
Fixed your typos
They've already outfoxed Hilary. She still needs to rehabilitate herself from the stigmas of the 90's
I thank God every day that the GOP blocked her health care reform over a decade ago. Remember all those predictions of how expensive health care would be if they passed, and how there would be people telling you what doctor to see, and regulating how much care you could get and how much your meds would cost? Boy, we'd sure be up shit creek if that ever happened, I tell you what.
Only hetero bacteria scum can understand it, fag.
Once again, I have to point out, who starts these things. I've been very patient tonight for the sake of other commenters, which they don't share, obviously.
Think about it...
The combination of Hillary and the negro would not win a single state outside the northeast. Might very well equal McGovern's record breaking electoral vote.
flory
Nuh-uh. Neener.
Hilary's not qualified for the Supreme Court. She's not qualified to be President. She's not qualified to design or broker a healthcare plan, she's not qualified to run foreign policy, she's not even qualified to ask questions at a hearing.
psycho2
Rush, is that you?
I think the Chicks are sentimental favorites...but beyond that, some of the best music they've recorded is on that album.
I agree about the music. I just wonder if they're as much favorites inside the industry as they are inside the blogosphere.
Pscho2 is not qualified to write a responsible sentance.
Apologize. I am offended by the implication that any time elapses between (1) the sensing of bacon and (2) the ingestion of same. Thers
I'm sorry. I didn't realize you weren't consciously making those little lip smacking kissy noises.
Neither are you, Psycho1.
Boy, we'd sure be up shit creek if that ever happened, I tell you what.
Exactly. Thank heavens the simplicity and rationality of our system was preserved.
Hillary is a Queen. Queens win wars.
Nuh-uh. Neener.
Thers
Ok -- would that ticket win Florida, Texas, Illinois, Pennsylvania or Ohio against McCain?
Neener.
Nuh-uh. Neener.
Thers
Ok -- would that ticket win Florida, Texas, Illinois, Pennsylvania or Ohio against McCain?
Neener.
I must go to bed and dream of lesbians licking lower labial lips.
It is written in Teh Bible.
I thank God every day that the GOP blocked her health care reform over a decade ago. Remember all those predictions of how expensive health care would be if they passed, and how there would be people telling you what doctor to see, and regulating how much care you could get and how much your meds would cost? Boy, we'd sure be up shit creek if that ever happened, I tell you what.
JeffCO | 12.10.06 - 1:52 am | #
Yeah it sure could have been far worse. A good friend of mine just died and was only paying $1,200 a month for his health insurance. Reasonable for someone high risk. Too bad he wasn't sicker longer he had a few assests left when he died.
I won't be impersonating a lesbian until I go to bed, Draco. At which time, I may dream of a lesbian. You never know.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans' body.
It's my cross to bear.Really.
Back from pupwalk
DWD, forgot to thank you for checking that out for me earlier.
Hillary or Barak cannot win the presidency.
Racism, sexism, and general stupidity would prohibit that from happening.
psycho2
you're not qualified to comment on this blog. i'm sorry, you're account has been cancelled.
good nite all. one day, after i'm dead and gone, i'm sure there will be affordable healthcare. it's the right thing to do.
It is written in Teh Bible.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Damn. That's another gospel they skipped in CCD.
I've been very patient tonight for the sake of other commenters
WTF?
Ojo, you are the great non offerer of anything usefull(sp). Thanks for the spell check, I'll spell more words wrong just for you.
as if the guy's plan was to remain a cipher and run entirely on his media image.
Not a bad plan, really.
Damn. I might actually have to watch for a change!!
flory | 12.10.06 - 1:51 am | #
Me too -- I mean, let's face it, awards shows are silly for about a thousand reasons ("All they do in this town is give awards -- Best Fascist Dictator: Adolph Hitler") but I think this year the Hollywood godless liberal commie community is going to use the Grammys as an excuse to give a huge Fuck You to the Republicans. As well they should. And the beauty part is that this time, no matter how the Bill O'Reilly's of this world piss and moan, most normal Americans will agree with them.
Never thought I'd live to see it...
Yeah, with my HMO, my health care is far better than Canada's.
Once again, I have to point out, who starts these things. I've been very patient tonight for the sake of other commenters, which they don't share, obviously. Think about it... Ô¿Ô
Yes, you have been, and I for one appreciate it. You could always try seeing what would happen if you didn't take the bait. JP clearly thinks it's funny to set you off. I dare say most of us don't. That's life in the big city.
Once again, I have to point out, who starts these things.
Want to know who ends these things?
.
Damn. That's another gospel they skipped in CCD.
flory
Listen to your people, listen to your people, listen to your people...
dave™©, thanks for the link to the McGuinn site!
Meesa gonna download mpt'rees alla night!
Henry - I will ask him when he gets up tomorrow. He is attending a Christmas dance with his girl - I do not expect him home for several more hours.
Not a problem. If I do not know something, people here are always willing to inform me. If I do know something, some people here are always willing to correct me too.
Malajube "Le Métronome"
french pop......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...related&
search=
Oh--I spoke on the phone to Incog a few hours ago. He is NOT the guy who offensively used "cunt" or repeatedly made "cocksucker" an issue.
Please don't confuse the real Incog with his namestealer
He can be a pain in the neck without such obvious vulgarities
Never thought I'd live to see it...
steve simels
A good time will be had by all!!
And now I'm off to bed.
Make sure Thers cleans up the bacon grease.
DWD: Racism, sexism, and general stupidity would prohibit that from happening.
Forgive me for pointing it out, my friend, but... I do not see how your comment helps matters, one iota.
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Hillary or Barak cannot win the presidency.
Racism, sexism, and general stupidity would prohibit that from happening.
DWD -Dirty Fucking Hippy | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 1:56 am | #
Apparently I'm less cynical than you, because to my surprise I disagree.
The irony is I don't want them to win.
Want to know who ends these things? Jeffraham Prestonian
Is it too much to ask you to knock it off before everyone has to give up and go home? You could go down to an unused thread and stir up trouble.
If I do know something, some people here are always willing to correct me too.
Just so ye know, even though we disagree on a lot of things, I'd still fix your car, without hesitation.
Goodnight, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite...Adios, Scooby Do, la la la la....
Ok -- would that ticket win Florida, Texas, Illinois, Pennsylvania or Ohio against McCain?
All but Texas.
Texas is a bit too much to ask for.
JeffCO: Is it too much to ask you to knock it off before everyone has to give up and go home? You could go down to an unused thread and stir up trouble.
Good night.
♥
Shorter GOP: "Now we have to take all of your guns away or the terrorists automatically win."
Courts have upheld bans on automatic weapons and sawed-off shotguns but this case is unusual because it involves a prohibition on all pistols. Voters passed a similar ban in San Francisco last year but a judge ruled it violated state law. The Washington case is not clouded by state law and hinges directly on the Constitution.
"We interpret the Second Amendment in military terms," said Todd Kim, the District's solicitor general, who told the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit that the city would also have had the authority to ban all weapons.
Gun safety is extremely important. There is no need for assault weapons.
Guns should be registered and subject to background checks and waiting periods. But this DIRTY STINKING LIBERAL COMMIE PINKO PACIFIST HIPPY believes Americans have EVERY RIGHT to responsibly, safely, and legally posess and use Pistols, Rifles, and Shotguns.
Good going Republicans. We warned you and warned you and warned you, but you just had to vote for a bunch of nazi pedophiles because FOX told you to. Keep watching FOX, there, since FOX is so patriotic and fair and balanced. Just keep watching FOX and believe whatever they tell you since that's worked out so well thus far.
sweet dreams
Why does Altmouse have dead cats falling off her roof?
Oh--I spoke on the phone to Incog a few hours ago. He is NOT the guy who offensively used "cunt" or repeatedly made "cocksucker" an issue.
Please don't confuse the real Incog with his namestealer.
I'd like to hear more about this.
Once again, I have to point out, who starts these things. I've been very patient tonight for the sake of other commenters, which they don't share, obviously. Think about it... Ô¿Ô
Yes, you have been, and I for one appreciate it. You could always try seeing what would happen if you didn't take the bait. JP clearly thinks it's funny to set you off. I dare say most of us don't. That's life in the big city.
JeffCO |
Roger that, and thanks for the recipe.
Exploit FOX news, they are sluts in any gender.
The three of them are about as significant to me as half a dog turd lying on the ground. I'm just trying to take the bait and have another flame war for the sake of the other posters here they don't care about. They're not going to stop until other posters tell them to knock it off but if that happened, expect to be namestolen, harassed and ganged-up on anonymously because that's their caliber.
Homework for incoming Democrats:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...-
democrats.html
I am really curious..
Why does Altmouse have dead cats falling off her roof?
Draco, I don't need anyone commenting on my behalf.
Thanks.
They're not going to stop until other posters tell them to knock it off
I just did. Flame off, Johnny Storm.
Night all.
Thinking about it, one good thing about a Clinton / Obama ticket, would be that it would force a real accounting of some issues Americans don't typically like discussing.
sounds like a good idea.
good night to all.
Hey, I asked you a question that I'd answer for free. What's more Liberal than that?
Jeffraham,
Dunno - I was not trying to be or do anything by pointing out that our society is peopled with individuals who will NOT vote for certain people. That was not my intention.
But racism does exist: if you doubt that, why did Jefferson win in LA tonight?
I am back to bed again where I prolly will not stir up any ill feelings. The pain has diminished from searing to throbbing.
Steve Clemons:
Bravo to General Wesley Clark for making his way to Dubai for the Arab Strategy Forum taking place here this week. It was fun to see him earlier today make his way quickly across the room to kibitz with former New Hampshire Governor Jeanne Shaheen who I am traveling with this week in the UAE.
Tomorrow, Clark speaks on a panel along with my New America Foundation/American Strategy Program colleague and CNN Terrorism Analyst Peter Bergen. Clark regularly impresses me with his vision of what needs to be done in this region as well as his clarity and bluntness. More on his remarks tomorrow.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com...ives/
001815.php
Wes Clark can whip Chuck Norris.
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And so to bed!
I can download all the McGuinn music later today.
The thing is, I don't really believe either Clinton or Obama would be interested in making Americans have that discussion. And I can't see how it would be in their interest to do so. You could be right about the media being excited over having a new narrative though.
Tonight on Coast:
Sat 12.09 >>
Jim Sparks discusses his twenty years as an alien abductee, which he has documented in his new book The Keepers.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
You don't have healthcare right now because Hilary blew it.
Hilary had 2 years to get healthcare through.
The thing is, I don't really believe either Clinton or Obama would be interested in making Americans have that discussion.
It would force the discussion, though, is the point. It would be inevitable, regardless of their desires.
One must have health to take care care of one's family and friends. It's good to use your own plan to help others.
BTW, remember FOLEY??? The guy who was in CHARGE of protecting against pedophile predators??? The guy that was all over FOX saying how we should be much TOUGHER on pedophile predators??? The FOLEY who turned out to BE a Republican pedophile predator??? That FOLEY???
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHARGE HIM WITH ANYTHING.
It would force the discussion, though, is the point. It would be inevitable, regardless of their desires. Thers
I'm dubious whether in many households the discussion would extend beyond "I dunno if a woman can be trusted, and that Osama makes me nervous."
Hilary could never be President. She needs to withdraw her name, or hurt everyday americans.
Why did no one tell me Dina Meyer was squashing bugs on TNT?
Thinking about it, one good thing about a Clinton / Obama ticket, would be that it would force a real accounting of some issues Americans don't typically like discussing.
Thers
The biggest downside I can see from this distance, is that they would lose the election.
morning bats
what's shakin?
I'm dubious whether in many households the discussion would extend beyond "I dunno if a woman can be trusted, and that Osama makes me nervous."
Nah.
Eh, hopefully we'll never know, as I wouldn't want these two, but I just think they'd win.
Hilary Duff has a healthcare plan? I'm listening.
From below: Junior told author Bob Woodward, for his book “Plan of Attack,” that he didn’t consult his father in planning the invasion of Iraq but consulted a higher authority, pointing, presumably, to the heavens.
Hey, don't try to blame the Flying Spaghetti Monster for your fuckup, you deserting little sack of pigshit.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHARGE HIM WITH ANYTHING.
Is that because he didn't violate any laws?
NEW DELHI (AFP) — Indian men's penises do not match international sizes and most condoms on sale in the country are too big, according to a medical study reported on Friday.
The Indian Council of Medical Research, the country's top health research institute, found 60% of men in Mumbai had penises at least one inch shorter than international condom sizes, The Times of India newspaper said.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/off.../
off...ze_x.htm? csp=15
I dunno if a woman can be trusted
The point is that Hillary's not just any woman. From everything I read, she's a superb Senator from New York.
But she was the First Lady. There are scads of people who wouldn't vote for her, regardless on anything else, but just to prevent a former Chief Executive from becoming a First Husband.
I'm telling you, folks will vote like that.
For 30%, the gap was two inches, said a researcher quoted in the article headlined "Indian men don't measure up".
The institute surveyed 1,400 men visiting family planning clinics across the country to conduct the "Study on proper length and breadth specification for condoms".
You don't have healthcare right now because Hilary blew it.
No, shitwhistle, we don't have healthcare because of Harry and Louise.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHARGE HIM WITH ANYTHING.
Impeach Cheney Bush | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 2:17 am | #
That's a lot of drama for such an obscure link.
Salon's got a handy week's roundup...
That's a huge exploitable market. Condoms for small penises. Somebodies gonna get rich off that news.
Joe Galloway:
What we need to do is what none of the commissions and their reports dared to suggest: Begin withdrawing American forces from Iraq right now. Not in 2008. Not after the American death toll has crossed 5,000. Not just in time for a presidential election.
If you worry about the future of Iraq, don't. It will remain what it's always been: a violent, angry land of warring tribes only occasionally beaten and bludgeoned into submission by a homegrown despot like Saddam Hussein.
If you worry about added turmoil and instability in the Middle East, pull some of those departing American forces back to Kuwait and leave them there on standby. Then redirect thought, energy and effort into salvaging Afghanistan, finding Osama bin Laden, saving Lebanon, negotiating peace between Israel and its enemies, rebuilding the U.S. Army and Marine Corps and, oh yes, ending the uncivil war between Republicans and Democrats.
There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there's only one way to leave Iraq: Load our people up on their trucks and tank transporters and Bradleys and Humvees and head for the border. Now.
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ABOUT THE WRITER
Joseph L. Galloway is former senior military correspondent for Knight Ridder Newspapers and co-author of the national best-seller "We Were Soldiers Once ... and Young." Readers may write to him at: P.O. Box 399, Bayside, Texas 78340; e-mail: jlgalloway2@cs.com.
http://www.realcities.com/mld/kr...ay/
16186060.htm
Joe Galloway *again* tells it like it is.
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INDIAN MEN DON'T MEASURE UP.
NEW DELHI (AFP) — Indian men's penises do not match international sizes and most condoms on sale in the country are too big, according to a medical study reported on Friday.
The Indian Council of Medical Research, the country's top health research institute, found 60% of men in Mumbai had penises at least one inch shorter than international condom sizes, The Times of India newspaper said.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/off.../
off...ze_x.htm? csp=15
proper length and breadth specification
Hey Achilles, they only cover half of mine...
When someone offers you something, take it.
I think I agree that the generic voter tends to choose for reasons more emotional than rational. Could be they mistake their bias for their gut. There's always more than enough evidence laid out for any thought-based decision regarding who would be a better leader, but in the end they still vote their comfort level. Old white guys still feel safer to many, though I certainly hope that's changing. I'm just not ready to bet on it.
I hate them. It's so tight, I don't feel anything.
Thanks to "Compassionate Conservatism" bigotry is on the rise in America these days. Funny how religious people are at the heart of the movement.
When someone offers you something, take it.
If it feels good, do it.
Gee Ojo is resorting to reptilian instincts. He will never realize that the largest sexual organ is a brain.
I don't see most in the South voting that ticket, even if they wanted a change from repukes. And it wouldn't hurt to pick some of those in the South in 08.
Can't keep eyes open
good night
Yeah, m'out too. Cheery bye.
The comfort level of Hillary Clinton running for President is way bad. There's just too much for the voters to process at one time. It won't work right now.
So, is that why you have such a big brain?
The Doonesbury
http://i72.photobucket.com/album...sbury-Dec-
1.gif
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niters JeffCo. You're a class act.
It's funny to offer genuine tangible help to some folks that you disagree with. No prob, keep insulting away, that's what neo cons and neo libs do best. At least neolibs tend to be consentual fags and noecons are still pedophiles.
No Ojo , it's why your sister has a huge clit, even my brain can't match your sister's 7" clit.
Don't be grittin' on me, dude.
Yo mama got one even bigger after you came.
Boo yah ojo lost his mojo.
That penis study is a major piece of scientific research.
VICTORY!
Ojo, you are correct, my mom used to suck Jamaican inmates cocks for free on their conjugal visits every month, just so she could have enough protein in her milk to nurse me. As it turned out, she died of elaphantitis of the clitoris.
e?
major piece of scientific research.
I don't understand what took them so long to figure it out. They've been available for over 40 years.
CIA is undermining British war effort, say military chiefs
Confidential report speaks of 'serious tensions' in the coalition over strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan
By Robert Fox
Published: 10 December 2006
British intelligence officers and military commanders have accused the US of undermining British policies in Iraq and Afghanistan, after the sacking of a key British ally in the Afghan province of Helmand.
British sources have blamed pressure from the CIA for President Hamid Karzai's decision to dismiss Mohammed Daud as governor of Helmand, the southern province where Britain deployed some 4,000 troops this year. Governor Daud was appointed in mid-year to replace a man the British accused of involvement in opium trafficking, but on Thursday Mr Karzai summoned him to Kabul and sacked him, along with his deputy.
"The Americans knew Daud was a main British ally," one official told The Independent on Sunday, "yet they deliberately undermined him and told Karzai to sack him." The official said the Defence Secretary, Des Browne, was "tearing his hair out".
Meanwhile, a confidential assessment of the situation in Iraq, seen by the IoS, has reported "serious tensions" in the American-British coalition. American commanders in the country are believed to oppose the British strategy for handing over Maysan and Basra provinces to Iraqi control as part of an exit strategy.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
wo...icle2062489.ece
Not only can Shrub screw up a war worse than his daddy, he can screw up multiple wars worse than his daddy.
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Ojo is more like a hoax before Christmas and is more entertaining than a jellyfish.
Not only can Shrub screw up a war worse than his daddy, he can screw up multiple wars worse than his daddy.
We're not going to last another 2 years...
Good point Quentin, George Walker Bush loses two wars for the price of five.
Good point Quentin, George Walker Bush loses two wars for the price of five.
Happy Holidays, everybody!
You too Ojo. You are no troll, just a nice person with a strong opinion. Merry Buhdahnukaquanza and a ha ha ha.
We're not "headed toward a cliff", anymore as a country. No, we've already sailed over it in a cloud of dust with the wingnuts white-knuckling America's throat, hesitated mid-air for a moment, dropped, and now we're about two-thirds the way down to the rocky jagged bottom...
Those thirty-percenters who still support Chimpy are on drugs. They're high on JAYZUS!
After those 30% have been slowly evacuated outta this society like a turd, history will judge Chimpy with a 0% approval rating.
This "alien abductee" on Coast sure believe it really happened to him. You can tell by his voice.
There's always the possibility that those 30%ers think Chimpy is wire-tapping them during the poll and will have them killed...
hi Incog. having fun?
Hey mimi. Yeah, just finished watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...related&
search=
See ya, nice Christianist family...
BWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Holy crap. I've been catching up with the news after being away only a couple of days.
It seems our CinC really is living in an alternate universe. Atrios is right. As long as w is in charge, we are never leaving Iraq..
This is so incredibly fucked up. Of course, at this rate, there might not be any more Iraqis in Iraq. If I were a praying person, I might start now.
hey ql. how are your quilts hanging?
And here's Frank Rich, to sum it all up.
i dont believe bush is going to avail himself of the political cover the baker group is trying to give him, so yeah, things are just gonna get worse in iraq unless we can get him and cheney out of there. neither can admit they were wrong.
Hi mimi. How's Europe.
Been so busy buying a new home, I haven't had much time to sew.
yes, I heard you had some champagne yesterday in celebration of that new house. aren't you going to miss NYC?
Europe is pretty warm for this time of year. Thanks for asking. No snow in the Alps, and I have had a terrible virus which made me miss 4 days of work this week, a new record for me. feeling better today though.
I'm still trying to figure out the whole ISG thing though. It seems weird that Bush would set this up, then completely ignore it. It's weird, even for him.
i dont think bush set it up, it was republicans, that realize we are losing (even if they don't say it expressly in the report).
It seems weird that Bush would set this up,
He didn't. These Wise Old Men of Washington and one big peanut-headed woman took it on themselves. It's all a big joke.
Lou Dobbs was scathing in his criticism of the ISG. Something along the lines of, it took a panel of 10 wise people, a million dollars, and eight months to tell w what is obvious to anyone who watches the nightly news.
I must have missed something. Who set up the ISG then?
I was just reading an interesting article in the London Times online about the fatal fantasy of the Iraq war and readers' comments on the story. It's amazing but a lot of Americans are still defending the war, or just see it as a matter of bad execution, not bad morals. Pretty pathetic. Click the Homepage link to see what I'm talking about.
If I was in the sands of Iraq, I would rather Ricky Martin show up than Rumsfeld...
how about Lawrence of Arabia or Alexander the Great?
Oy. Lawzamercy...
That Adventskaffee was rather beyond decadent.
In a world gone mad, who is to say what normal blogging is?
Americans back the ISG’s recommendations by a two-to-one margin. In interviews with 1,000 adults done Dec. 6 and Dec. 7, 39 percent of Americans said they generally agree with the group’s 79 recommendations, while 20 percent said they disagree. (Twenty-six percent said, in effect: “Report, what report?”)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1612.../site/newsweek/
Throw out your cable! Don't pay to be lied to!!
quiet here today.
If it weren't for Incog, nothing would be stirring, not even a mouse.
im just waiting for the normal blogging
I'm just waiting for the coffee to kick in.
Normal three-story catblogging?
And here's Frank Rich, to sum it all up.
ql in ny
This sentence says it all:
"The illusion of not losing must be preserved no matter what the price in blood."
Goooooooood Morning, Vietnaaaam!
Here's a pre-coffee musing: What if, for one week, we replaced the current news with repeats of news broadcasts from, say, 1968? Everyone tuning in would hear the excuses and false hopes and manipulation, but folks would have the advantage of knowing the outcome of all that.
Sure, one can read history, and recognize repeated patterns, but what a visceral experience to relive it--or rather, a punch in the gut.
The problem Uncle is that the same 30% who still support this misadventure believe that we could've won in Vietnam too if it weren't for the fucking dirty hippies.
Iraqi leader: U.S. report is 'dangerous'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061.../
iraq_us_report
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi President Jalal Talabani on Sunday harshly criticized the bipartisan report recommending changes to U.S. war policies, saying it contained some "very dangerous" recommendations that would undermine the sovereignty of Iraq.
Talabani, a Kurd, said the report "is not fair, is not just and it contains some very dangerous articles which undermine the sovereignty of Iraq and the constitution."
He singled out the report's call for the approval of a de-Baathification law that could allow thousands of officials from Saddam Hussein's ousted party to return to their jobs.
"There is an article to bring back the Baathists to the political scene, which is very dangerous," he said in an interview with reporters at his office in Baghdad.
The problem Uncle is that the same 30% who still support this misadventure believe that we could've won in Vietnam too if it weren't for the fucking dirty hippies.
ql in ny
Yes, but it would help hammer home to the "70%" the lesson that such people are to be ignored when they rave about foreign policy and shunned when they seek office.
If the idea that "we'll do better next time" takes hold, then this hole ball of confusion starts rolling again.
Lou Dobbs was scathing in his criticism of the ISG. Something along the lines of, it took a panel of 10 wise people, a million dollars, and eight months to tell w what is obvious to anyone who watches the nightly news.
ql in ny
This misses the obvious point that the purpose of the ISG isn't to solve the situation in Iraq but to provide fig leaves of suitable sizes and colors for American politicians.
And the chimp looks like he doesn't want his.
Talabani, a Kurd, said the report "is not fair, is not just and it contains some very dangerous articles which undermine the sovereignty of Iraq and the constitution."
Yeah, I bet the Kurds are worried.
They've always been the first ones screwed over in the name of "stability."
"The illusion of not losing must be preserved no matter what the price in blood."
Well, 71% favor two years, "if that's what it takes," while 60% say six months is just fine.
The majority of Iraqis want the US out, too.
So why are we still there? Why is no one talking about leaving right now!? Why, indeed, are we still there? The ISG only envisions removing some troops beginning in early 2008. There is no support for this war anymore, and that support is going down on an almost daily basis.
Why are we still there?
This misses the obvious point that the purpose of the ISG isn't to solve the situation in Iraq but to provide fig leaves of suitable sizes and colors for American politicians.
And the chimp looks like he doesn't want his.
SteveLG, proudly pre 9/11
Well, he had better take it, and his fig leaf ought to be winterized, for a cold wind is blowing, a "frequent wind".
Like I've written for several years now: We are never leaving Iraq.
The Iraq Study Group's report simply confirms, yet again, the bedrock truth of the war: the American Establishment has no intention of leaving Iraq, ever, and no intention of having anything but a pliant, cowed, bullied puppet government in Baghdad to carry out whatever the Establishment decides is in its best interests on any given day.
Iraq was invaded because large swathes of the American elite thought they could make hay of it one way or another (financially, politically, ideologically or even psychologically, for those pathetic souls who get their sense of manhood or personal validation from their identification with a big, swaggering, domineering empire).
And U.S. troops will remain in Iraq, indefinitely, at some level, because the American elite think they can make hay of the situation one way or another. The war is all about -- is only about -- what the American elite feel is in their own best interest, how it aggrandizes their fortunes, flatters their prejudices, serves their needs.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
[Note: For some reason, I get bitter on Sunday mornings. Forgive me if at times my posts are over the top.]
Let Us Know When You've Grown A Backbone
Why are we still there?
Rmj, Street Credentialed
There might be valid reasons to protract the withdrawal if it could be done in a way which might lessen the internal bloodbath and regional upheaval which are all but certain consequences of American withdrawal.
But under the best circumstances the alternatives are poor and this administration is too compromised and has allowed the situation to deteriorate too far to gain any significant international co-operation.
So... why, indeed? But as we've said before in these threads, no one should think that immediate withdrawal will be any happier alternative than the others. People need to be prepared to see some really awful awfulness ensued.
I'm in no way a religious person, but the United States really needs to "repent", to use a truly old-fashioned word. We've allowed a really, really bad thing to be done and it can't be undone or probably even mitigated significantly.
I am honestly beginning to think that war crimes trials against our leaders are not the pipe dream I always assumed they would be... it won't happen overnight, but it should happen and eventually it could.
I love Sunday mornings. It's my favorite segment of the week. I'm just getting off work, going home to watch a movie drinking some cold one and chatting with y'all while you froth and sputter about the morning gasbags on TV. That's why I say, cancel your cable. Stop paying to be lied to.
People need to be prepared to see some really awful awfulness ensued.
I already know that's coming, and the images will be beamed around the world with the byline: See what America has wrought.
Welp, I'm outta here. See ya at the house.
Morning, all
Morning, Moonbats!
Howdy all.
Why are we still there?
Evidently not enough people have been killed. Some sorta weird bloodletting going on, is all I can guess.
RMJ,
I am just waking and all but it seems to be to ask the question, "Why are we still there?" is to miss the point: why did we go in the first place?
I know that this is rehashing the past but, honestly, if we do not examine the reasons we (Not us) did this terrible thing we are never going to see our way clear to a future.
Blind ambition: Reshaping dollars to make them easier to identify
The Treasury Department has until Tuesday to respond to a federal judge's ruling that would require the agency to reshape dollars to accommodate the nation's legally blind and an additional 2.3 million low-vision Americans. U.S. District Judge James Robertson agreed with lawyers from the advocacy group American Council of the Blind that the current universal shape for all bills -- 6.14 inches by 2.61 inches -- violates the federal Rehabilitation Act, which prohibits discrimination against the disabled.
Yet former government officials and vending merchants say redesigning the 37 million currency bills printed each day would be an unduly expensive effort. They argue that the change would force the redesign of hundreds of everyday objects, such as ATMs, cash registers and wallets.
The ruling also is opposed by a larger blind advocacy group, the National Federation of the Blind, which calls the American Council of the Blind's effort "dangerously misguided" in suggesting that blind people are incapable of identifying currency.
Charles Miller, a spokesman at the Department of Justice, said government attorneys hadn't decided yet whether to meet the Tuesday deadline and appeal the decision. If the deadline passes, Miller said the Treasury Department would have 30 days to begin "the accommodation process" that would start the redesign of bills.
Good morning, rational people.
We finally got some real rain here in SoCal, the first drenching since last March.
A large part of the reason we are still there is because the nation as a whole is not involved. If w took the recommendation if the ISG to order, instead of calling for volunteers, federal employees to do a stint, I bet we'd be out way before 2008.
We aint leaving till w is out of office.
I know that this is rehashing the past but, honestly, if we do not examine the reasons we (Not us) did this terrible thing we are never going to see our way clear to a future.
DWD
I've actually come around to NTodd's p.o.v. We, all of us, did not do enough to stop this.
I know that this is rehashing the past but, honestly, if we do not examine the reasons we (Not us) did this terrible thing we are never going to see our way clear to a future.
DWD
I've actually come around to NTodd's p.o.v. We, all of us, did not do enough to stop this.
We aint leaving till w is out of office.
ql in ny
You know, I know we are players in this-- our advocacy matters-- but I'd guess that American troops will be in Iraq ten years from now.
I haven't had enough coffee yet, so please don't take this as snark. But this "when w leaves" thing just pushes back the time when we've gotta get even more pissed, if that makes sense. The troops ain't leaving until half the country raises holy hell.
The troops ain't leaving until half the country raises holy hell.
Moe Szyslak
I'm not certain that the population has enough energy for that kind of activity. Too many are working longer hours and multiple jobs in order to just maintain.
Still, maybe a breaking point is approaching. I certainly hope so.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
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Greenwald is so cogent. I wish he'd be a regular on TV, but then again, that would probably interfere with the carefully crafted arguments that make him so incisive and convincing.
With TV punditry, one says the first thing that pops in one's head, and in quick sound bites the belie reasoned discourse--memorized talking points and clichéd default notions rule the day.
We crave so much more, and I hope that somewhere the scales drop from the eyes of some market analysts and attention is paid to the rise of folks like Olbermann.
If they want to sell us to advertisers, then they had better use better bait than O'Reilly or Kristol.
QL,
Okay, I will play along: what more SHOULD we have done? There were endless - and HUGE - demonstrations against this. Most of us wrote letters to anyone and everyone expressing our opposition. Short of symbolic suicide, what were we supposed to do?
But I will say, even more than they lying of the Bush Administration, I blame the media. They wanted this war and endlessly beat the drums of war while discounting those of us who opposed the war. Their function is to explain to people what is going on not act as an advocate for one position or another.
QL,
Okay, I will play along: what more SHOULD we have done? There were endless - and HUGE - demonstrations against this. Most of us wrote letters to anyone and everyone expressing our opposition. Short of symbolic suicide, what were we supposed to do?
But I will say, even more than they lying of the Bush Administration, I blame the media. They wanted this war and endlessly beat the drums of war while discounting those of us who opposed the war. Their function is to explain to people what is going on not act as an advocate for one position or another.
You know, I know we are players in this-- our advocacy matters-- but I'd guess that American troops will be in Iraq ten years from now.
Moe Szyslak
At the rate things are deteriorating, we will be thrown out while Dubya is still in office.
Sunday Akhmatova Blogging.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.10.06 - 8:16 am
Btw, that poem is an absolute stunner.
Of course, now that I think about it, the insurgents will probably change the political equation in the states. Sooner or later a few hundred Americans will be killed at one stroke-- an attack on the Green Zone, I'm guessing. That'll piss off a few more Americans.
'm not certain that the population has enough energy for that kind of activity. Too many are working longer hours and multiple jobs in order to just maintain.
I'm certainly not advocating a return to the stay-at-home mom, but when one person can afford to stay at home full time, you wind up with a lot of well educated do gooder types who have the time and energy to get politically engaged. That's part of the success of the xtianists groups. Large groups of stay-at-home moms who have the time and wherewithall to agitate.
That's part of the success of the xtianists groups. Large groups of stay-at-home moms who have the time and wherewithall to agitate.
ql in ny
You have a great point, ql. I think the same could be accomplished by some real leadership by the Dems in Congress. It would be hard for the press to ignore what comes out of the promised hearings into Iraq, and that might be enough to push people in the right direction.
I've actually come around to NTodd's p.o.v. We, all of us, did not do enough to stop this
I think many of us sorta believed Colin Powell and wasn't as anti-war as I could have been. I was "non-commital" but not so much pro-war. But I turned against it almost immediately even before it was revealed that Powell was lying. As far as the last 8 years go, I couldn't have done more anti-Bush-activities other than throwing myself in front of a MACK truck if that would have helped or standing on the corner of Kings and Youree Dr, the busiest intersection in Shreveport, handing out anti-war leaflets every day facing certain cursings, arrest, being spit on or very possibly, being run over for doing that.
I'm surprised there has not been a major strike on the Green Zone to this point.
Good morning.
Has anybody seen Reds again?
There's a speech made at the beginning of the movie by some blowhard that is almost word for word a speech made by Cuckoo Bananas.
If I was Beatty I'd be suing.
I do not accept that we could have done more. The mood of the country, dictated by the lying politicians and the lying news media, was such that any opposition was immediately and absolutely discounted.
I remember I was the only teacher in my building to warn against this war. I was ostrasized for this. (even more now, they KNOW I was right)
That is why I believe it is so important that hearings and testimony is given to document the run-up to this foolish war.
It would be hard for the press to ignore what comes out of the promised hearings into Iraq, and that might be enough to push people in the right direction.
First, I'm not convinced the Dems are going to be as aggressive as promised.
Sencon, don't underestimate the perfidy of the corparate media.
To-morrow, to-morrow! What is this to-morrow?
And how on earth did I manage to get a cold? Arthur?????
Back to the spa for you, Dr. B. With some Irish Coffee.
I don't know what more I could have done. I tried to talk to people and have them roll their eyes about it. To this day, at work, I've never heard anyone mention the Iraq war.
What more could any of us have done that would have changed things, pray tell?
Why, yes. We all should have taken leaves from work and forced a shut down of the country. Look what Cindy Sheehan managed. One mom with time to make a difference. I had to maintain my middle class lifestyle and didn't want to put my job in jeopardy, so other than a few demonstrations, a few letters, a few arguments, I didn't do squat.
i dont see how we could have stopped the war. there was too much political machinery and press pushing for it. and the dems were too scared after 911 to oppose bush
San Francisco values give us big words:
SF Chronicle
Standing at a point in history as fraught with consequence as his decision to invade Iraq nearly four years ago, Bush is in full flower of what he calls resolve and others call obduracy. The Baker-Hamilton report has left Bush isolated even within his own party.
"This is a president who really sees it as a weakness to admit error," said Julian Zelizer, a congressional historian at Boston University. "But with Iraq it has reached such a point, it's like he's standing in the desert without anyone around him and refusing help."
It remains to be seen whether Bush is clinging to Cold War metaphors that he hopes history will vindicate or saving face before delivering a speech expected by Christmas. During it he would call for a gradual withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq based on reviews he has ordered from his State Department, Pentagon and National Security Council.
even more than they lying of the Bush Administration, I blame the media.
While I don't disagree with this statement, DWD, I see the media as an appendage of the Bush administration.
Looking back, I see so many signs that the Bush administration was just itching to start this immoral, illegal, devestating, pre-emptive war. And it wasn't really in the name of spreading democracy in the Middle East: It was about one thing. The oil and how quickly they could get their hands on it.
They fucked that up, too.
I had to maintain my middle class lifestyle and didn't want to put my job in jeopardy, so other than a few demonstrations, a few letters, a few arguments, I didn't do squat.
I did as much as you did. But for me to quit my job, I would have lost my home, my child, my everything...I've been the sole source of income for my immediate family for 16 years, and I'm not a "kept" woman or wealthy or anything like that...I couldn't sacrifice being homeless and losing my kid - my ex-husband would have taken her from me. Then what would I have been fighting for, anyway, if not for my family?
Anyway, my point at 8:55 AM is that I blame the Bush administration and all the appendages on that nasty octopus for this war.
GREED.
And if there is a hell, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush deserve to roast on a slow-turning, miserable spit staked through the heart of their souls for all of eternity.
before delivering a speech expected by Christmas. During it he would call for a gradual withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq based on reviews he has ordered from his State Department, Pentagon and National Security Council.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers - 8:54 am
I don't see how we can officially leave before we have "control" of the country.
If we do, we can not leave behind those permanent military bases or control what happens to the oil.
This war was not to be stopped. It was planned (badly), dreamed and longed for. What did you think PNAC was about?
There was nothing more nor less that could have been done to stop it - Bush wanted it so much that he abrogated international treaties and law, lied, deceived and coerced in order to get it. You did what there was to do to stop it, all of you, however great or small. It was not to be stopped. It is why from the secret "vote" at the Supreme Court, the day and time was fixed. Equally, it will not be ended until Bush and his minions are removed from power. That began last month - when the removal is complete, the war will end.
I had to maintain my middle class lifestyle and didn't want to put my job in jeopardy, so other than a few demonstrations, a few letters, a few arguments, I didn't do squat.
ql in ny
Nothing prior that you could have done would have mattered. But what we can do now will matter. Since, we've built up a huge and growing grassroots network that WILL change everything.
This war was not to be stopped. It was planned (badly), dreamed and longed for. What did you think PNAC was about?
Yes! Leave it to a historian to define it so well!
People have short memories: it seems like a lot of folks have forgotten about PNAC.
I've actually come around to NTodd's p.o.v. We, all of us, did not do enough to stop this.
ql in ny
The problem is with that word "we."
As far as the present power structure in the United States as developed since the 1960's, that "we" has been divided up into categories, easily disregarded with handy labels dripping from an acid-tongued pundit.
The massive protests prior to the invasion--unprecedented in history to have such scale and immediacy in protest before a military action--were characterized as "anti-war protests," marginalized in way that brought to mind cultural references those "dirty fucking hippies" or 1980's no-nukes peaceniks or whatever cultural garbage bag one can toss ideas into for easy separation and disposal.
Our televisions and automobiles and other consumer goods have served for years to isolate us from each other, to turn each of us, as Chomsky puts it, into an "atom of consumption."
Here's Dr. Chomsky in a 1991 interview:
"I mentioned something very good about the United States, but there are also a number of things that are very bad. One is the breakdown of independent social organization and independent thought, the atomization of people. As we move towards a society which is optimal from the point of view of the business classes--namely, that each individual is an atom, lacking means to communicate with others so that he or she can’t develop independent thought or action and is just a consumer, not a producer--people become deeply alienated, and they may hate what’s going on but have no way to express that hatred constructively. And if a charismatic leader comes along, they may very well follow."
Even here at this site, and other sites like it, we have gathered in our camps, sharing our similar points of view--and don't get me wrong, it's great and indispensable to my sanity--but it is still a corral, safely kept away from the halls of real power.
Until there is the kind of "we" that has the power of popular uprising, the potential for mass revolt, such as the kind of people that made up the United States in the 1930's, then the population can be ignored at will.
The potential is there, but each of us needs to examine how much the goodies of a convenient life sold to us has in turn made us too selfishly comfortable to demand change in a way that alarms the powers that be.
There might be valid reasons to protract the withdrawal if it could be done in a way which might lessen the internal bloodbath and regional upheaval which are all but certain consequences of American withdrawal.
Good point, but I think the US military presence in Iraq at this point has no effect on the violence. There aren't sufficient troops there to keep order.
But under the best circumstances the alternatives are poor and this administration is too compromised and has allowed the situation to deteriorate too far to gain any significant international co-operation.
Yes. The only way out is to get a multinational peace-keeping force in Iraq in numbers that we can't supply, but that would require Bootsy negotiating with countries that he's already insulted. He won't do that and the coutries ain't too keen on the boy either.
It appears that we are in Iraq for at least 2 more years. Probably longer, but not with the current troop levels.
At some point, under a new administration, I suspect we will see a multinational force there.
Does anyone know what www.cocomment.com has to do with Haloscan and/or our comments here?
The neocon scum whispering in dumbass Chimpy's ear, had him bucking for war as CIC, and the MSM licked his stinking bunghole all the way.
This thread is still going? We need to feed it some Taco Bell.
gwb:drf
When I first read this old post by Billmon it gave me such guilt.
Everything I dreaded has come to pass -- for the Iraqis, if not for us.
The point deserves frequent repetition: We did this. We caused it. We're not just callous bystanders to genocide, as in Rwanda, but the active ingredient that made it possible. We turned Iraq into a happy hunting ground for Al Qaeda and the Mahdi Army. If Iraq is now a failed state, it's because of our failures.
But one can fully accept America's moral and legal responsibility for unleashing this barbarism and still not have a clue as to what can or should be done to stop it. Would a U.S. military withdrawal reduce the bloodshed or worsen it? I don't know, and I think anyone who says they do know is either lying or as deluded as Bush. But my intuition tells me that either way, whether we stay or go, thousands more, maybe millions more, are going to die.
A certain hoplessness, you see.
For someone in my shoes, though, hopelessness can become an excuse for not thinking about unpleasant truths. But there was something about Riverbend's quiet despair that forced me to think hard about my own moral responsibility as an American for a genocide caused by America -- because of a war started in my name, paid for with my taxes.
I've opposed this war since it was just a malignant smirk on George Bush's face. I've spoken against it, written against it, marched against it, supported and contributed to politicians I generally despise because I thought (wrongly) that they might do something to stop it. It's why I took up blogging, why I started this blog.
But the question Riverbend has forced me to ask myself is: Did I do enough? And the only honest answer is no.
I opposed the invasion -- and the regime that launched it -- but I didn't do everything I could have done. Very few did. We may have put our words and our wallets on the line, but not our bodies. Not when it might have made a difference. In the end, we were all good little Germans.
My question to myself, in other words, is like Thoreau's famous question to Ralph Waldo Emerson when Emerson came to visit him in jail after he was arrested for not paying his poll tax as a protest against slavery:
Emerson: What are you doing in there, Henry?
Thoreau: No, Waldo, the question is: What are you doing out there?
It's easy to think up excuses now -- we were in the minority, the media was against us, the country was against us. We didn't know how bad it would be.
But we knew, or should have known, that what Bush was planning was an illegal act of aggression, based on a warmongering campaign of deception and ginned-up hysteria. And we knew, or should have known, what our moral and legal obligations were:
Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principle VI is a crime under international law.
People have short memories: it seems like a lot of folks have forgotten about PNAC.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore - 9:03 am
which is an example of one of the reasons why folks who maintain the nation will or would never vote for another Bush are probably wrong...
mornin' batzes...
let's have a new thread, shall we?
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There was nothing more nor less that could have been done to stop it - Bush wanted it so much that he abrogated international treaties and law, lied, deceived and coerced in order to get it. You did what there was to do to stop it, all of you, however great or small. It was not to be stopped. It is why from the secret "vote" at the Supreme Court, the day and time was fixed. Equally, it will not be ended until Bush and his minions are removed from power. That began last month - when the removal is complete, the war will end.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Word: I have nothing to add.
I think the majority in Congress (like the Bush administration) felt like we'd be greeted with flowers and candy. With our "all-powerful" military, this would be a "week, six weeks or six month" war. They were all wrong.
Souldn't we be documenting some atrocities or something?
Souldn't we be documenting some atrocities or something?
Does anyone know what www.cocomment.com has to do with Haloscan and/or our comments here?
Gimlet
It doesn't. Why do you ask?
HBK,
Respectfully disagree. I do not believe there is any action that citizens could have taken that would have had an effect on the war.
I will NOT accept one iota of responsibility for THEIR malfeasance. Simple as that.
I think the majority in Congress (like the Bush administration) felt like we'd be greeted with flowers and candy.
Maybe so, but if so, then the electorate voted for woefully ignorant and unperceptive congresspeople. Which is, of itself, scary. The uninformed representing the uninformed.
Hell, I'm no historian, but it seemed to me to be pretty easy to figure out that greetings with flowers and candy was highly unlikely. Just look at the diversity of the Iraqi population - it was evident to me that this pre-emptive, illegal war would lead to complete chaos and a civil war.
I've actually come around to NTodd's p.o.v. We, all of us, did not do enough to stop this.
ql in ny
i did everything except throw bombs or shoot cops...
i do not think there is/was anything else I could have done...
in the final event, there was nothing ANYONE could have done to have prevented the fascists/busheviks from pursuing their agenda...
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Many people here did as much as they could to stop the war.
gwb:drf
Souldn't we be documenting some atrocities or something?
You and I, alone, have been documenting the atrocities all week, it seems.
This war still pisses me off, and, as Dr. Barmpot so rightfully pointed out, it started before, with PNAC, and became active the day that the Supreme Court stole the election from Al Gore.
mornin' batzes...
let's have a new thread, shall we?
I have a cold. Is that permitted? I thought after a certain age you stopped having colds.
DWD I just can't help thinking "isn't there more I could have done?"
I know people don't want to think about it but I can't help myself.
It doesn't. Why do you ask?
JR, kerosene and a match - 9:11 am
Every time I load/reload Haloscan a message appears about data transfer from www.cocoment.com.
It didn't always do this. Started a few months back.
I have a cold. Is that permitted? I thought after a certain age you stopped having colds.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers - 9:14 am
permitted, though not required, iirc...
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I will NOT accept one iota of responsibility for THEIR malfeasance. Simple as that.
Neither will I. I do blame the citizens of the United States for voting in idiots as congresspeople.
As I said, I'm no rocket scientist, but it was evident from the first day I saw George Bush that he was an evil man. Are people that shallow that they no longer follow their intuition?
Evil is written all over Bush's demeanor. And Cheney's, even moreso.
This thread is still going? We need to feed it some Taco Bell.
You going to Run for the Border, Arabella?
In my experience, talking about PNAC in any detail resulted in the listener's eyes glazing over.
In some ways, this "we could have done more..." is just the flip side of "what are we doing in Iraq?" It's a view that Americans, individually or collectively, can do anything they want, anywhere in the world. It is at the same time extremely endearing and extremely annoying. I say that as an American.
You and I, alone, have been documenting the atrocities all week, it seems.
This war still pisses me off, and, as Dr. Barmpot so rightfully pointed out, it started before, with PNAC, and became active the day that the Supreme Court stole the election from Al Gore.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
They should all be taken to the Hague.
It's easy to think up excuses now -- we were in the minority, the media was against us, the country was against us. We didn't know how bad it would be.
But we knew, or should have known, that what Bush was planning was an illegal act of aggression, based on a warmongering campaign of deception and ginned-up hysteria. And we knew, or should have known, what our moral and legal obligations were:
Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principle VI is a crime under international law.
HoneyBearKelly
Nah, fuck that shit. I did evertying in my power before any of this had to happen back in 99. I blame the majority of moron Americans who voted against their best interests because of butt-sex back in 2000, 2004 and accidently for their best interest with the Mark Foley scandal about butt sex in 06.
At 8:26 this morning, Andrea Seabrook on Sunday Morning Edition intro'd a report on the Congressional budget process by saying something to the effect of:
"I'm taking a big chance now, going to talk about the budget, and usually radios across America snap off." (That was the gist--I was somewhat shocked.)
I think that gives us insight into NPR's current editorial thinking. Real news stories are "hard" to do; listeners aren't interested in "hard" news and turn away; and, therefore, NPR needs to do long segments on "soft" things, so that listeners will hang around through the occasional, brief, shallow attempts at "hard" news.
Yech.
I think, but I may be in the minority, that listeners do want real news, "hard" or not. We want to learn about things, beyond what some listeners think are interesting noises in their environment and Sunday word puzzles. However well produced, it seems to me that NPR is increasingly focussing on, well, trivia. Interesting trivia sometimes--others not so much.
I think I know why NPR is no longer a priority for me. A long, slow slide approaching, in many instances, mediocrity. Or, at least, "centrism."
I have a cold. Is that permitted? I thought after a certain age you stopped having colds.
It's permitted only, if you have a note from your doctor.
I thought after a certain age you stopped having colds.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers - 9:14 am
After you are 125 years of age.
Incog said something upthread that I think is directly on the mark:
"But what we can do now will matter."
We need to start applying the pressure right now, and make sure it carries through well into the next Congress.
We managed to vote out a lot of the bums to point out our displeasure, and we should make it clear that we are capable of doing the same again.
some italians lay down in front of trains to try to stop the war. i didn't see that anywhere in the USA. what's more, the anti-war demos in the USA weren't very big compared to the ones in Europe. There was NYC, about 250,000 people, versus London 1 million, Madrid 5 million, etc.
Vicki, I read this over at TPM yesterday. Even though incoming intel chairman Reyes voted against going into Iraq, he seems clueless:
"Congressional Quarterly interview with incoming House intelligence committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-TX):
Reyes stumbled when I asked him a simple question about al Qaeda at the end of a 40-minute interview in his office last week. Members of the Intelligence Committee, mind you, are paid $165,200 a year to know more than basic facts about our foes in the Middle East.
We warmed up with a long discussion about intelligence issues and Iraq. And then we veered into terrorismÕs major players.
To me, itÕs like asking about Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland: WhoÕs on what side?
The dialogue went like this:
Al Qaeda is what, I asked, Sunni or Shia?
ÒAl Qaeda, they have both,Ó Reyes said. ÒYouÕre talking about predominately?Ó
ÒSure,Ó I said, not knowing what else to say.
ÒPredominantly Ñ probably Shiite,Ó he ventured.
He couldnÕt have been more wrong.
Al Qaeda is profoundly Sunni. If a Shiite showed up at an al Qaeda club house, theyÕd slice off his head and use it for a soccer ball.
Ladies and gentlemen, your new intel committee chairman."
-- David Kurtz
Evil is written all over Bush's demeanor. And Cheney's, even moreso.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
He's got those beady soulless eyes.
HBK,
But that is part of the plan as well. If we doubt ourselves, all the better for them.
Seriously, I want the news managers brought in before the appropriate congressional committee and be asked simple questions like, "Why, when there were hundreds of thousands of people in the streets demonstating against any possible war, did you dismiss them as being mere thousands? Why were the opposition leaders not given the same amount of time to present their case against the war? Why did you allow your newspeople to become "in bedded" with the armed forces? Did you not understand that once they did this they became part of the advocacy for this action?
and on and on
I read in today's paper that the Taliban is killing teachers in Afghanistan. Basically they have ordered all teachers to stop teaching, on penalty of death.
George W. Bush - the first president to lose two wars.
Heckuva job, Bushie.
talking about PNAC in any detail resulted in the listener's eyes glazing over.
That may very well be, for some people, but when I read their outline and letters, it was horrifying. I told everyone I knew about PNAC - no one listened, and no one cared. And no one in the msm called it out that way, of course, but with a little bit of research, every American who can read could have googled it to see what it was about. Horrifying. At least I'm confident that PNAC is done, fucked, and ruined, since they fucked up so badly in Iraq.
I think the majority in Congress (like the Bush administration) felt like we'd be greeted with flowers and candy. With our "all-powerful" military, this would be a "week, six weeks or six month" war. They were all wrong.
mer
Which is why we have to start electing thinkers and scholars. The level of ignorance displayed by our reps is nothing short of disgraceful.
Every time I load/reload Haloscan a message appears about data transfer from www.cocoment.com.
It didn't always do this. Started a few months back.
Gimlet
coComment is in beta, it may be fucking up. You somehow loaded it's plug-in. It's not malware, try removing it.
It's been ironic for some time that "gays are really going to be the downfall of America." Because it's the crazed fear of gay butt-sex that has inflamed idiot Amurkans against butt-sex that has brought us to this point...
After you are 125 years of age.
Gimlet
Rats.
Assuming that you aren't actually using coComment, that is.
Whether you think we did enough to stop the war or not, what we do now is important. It does me no good to dwell on the past. Forward, my friends.
gwb:drf
The level of ignorance displayed by our reps is nothing short of disgraceful.
ql in ny
And the media, both in print and on radio ad teevee. The so-called pundits.
Disgraceful.
I blame the idiots who voted in 04 to re-elect this boob, after more than ample evidence of his lies and deceptions to go to war were out there. That is who I blame.
At least I'm confident that PNAC is done, fucked, and ruined, since they fucked up so badly in Iraq.
And yet, Bill Krystal is still on the TV, or was the last time I watched a national news broadcast a week or two ago.
Which is why we have to start electing thinkers and scholars. The level of ignorance displayed by our reps is nothing short of disgraceful.
Now that's a statement I can get behind!
So delighted to see that Rick Santorum (I-Idiot, PA), was defeated.
owls are flying over bobbleheads
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i do not think there is/was anything else I could have done...
That's correct. The president, any president, can do pretty much anything he wants with respect to military action on a theater scale.
Bush was riding high at the time and anyone that criticized or questioned the boy was held in contempt (traitor, etc.) to a degree I've not seen since the Viet Nam days.
This was a done deal.
What needs to be done is to hold these people accountable after the fact. That can be aacomplished in many ways, but it needs to be done or we can expect this type of government to continue.
The accountability thing was not done after Viet Nam and the same people came back and did the shit again.
coComment is in beta, it may be fucking up. You somehow loaded it's plug-in. It's not malware, try removing it.
JR, kerosene and a match - 9:21 am
Suggestions?
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Gimlet
What browser?
Whether you think we did enough to stop the war or not, what we do now is important. It does me no good to dwell on the past. Forward, my friends.
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil
No, I disagree. We NEED to know HOW and WHY this mess was started. When we have that information can we at least post the root question and see if anyone has the ability to answer it?
Root Question: Why do people hate us so much that they are willing to sacrifice their lives to hurt us?
GWB says it is because they hate our freedom: that is stupid.
I think I know, at least part of, the answer. But I wonder how Joe Six-pack will react when he learns of the activities done in our name.
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I was listening to a radio program yesterday, "Washington Watch Weekly," with Tony Perkins, and he was interviewing Culture Warrior, Bill Orally, about the demise of American Family Values.
I don't listen to much religious programming, but it really is about the evil, liberal secular agenda (they want your kids to grow up watching porn, etc.), and teh gay. It's so fear based. Listening to it this morning when I took my daughter to work, and it was even worse. Interesting in that they actively advertise against a "liberal agenda" by using fear as the motivator.
I'm going to make a point of listening to Christian stations to see how they spin. I suspect it's with a lot of fear...
The reason the moron 30%ers have so much power that it's brought us to this destruction is because of the other moron 40%ers don't bother to be informed or vote.
What browser?
JR, kerosene and a match | 12.10.06 - 9:26 am
Netscape 8.1.2
What needs to be done is to hold these people accountable after the fact. That can be aacomplished in many ways, but it needs to be done or we can expect this type of government to continue.
Exactly. But I wish I were more confident that it would happen.
What browser?
JR, kerosene and a match | 12.10.06 - 9:26 am
Netscape 8.1.2
Gimlet
I'm gogin to assume that you remove it however you normally remove a browser extension from Netscape.
Tools > Extensions
Find coComment and uninstall.
At work, right before getting off on the morning of Nov. 7th, a fundie I work with was trying to talk to people about voting. I just said I was going to vote, too. One of the fat asses standing there said, "I don't care" while eating his honeybun.
I'm going to make a point of listening to Christian stations to see how they spin. I suspect it's with a lot of fear...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I've listened to them for years, wingnut radio, too. Called in many times for all the good it will do. I once got through to Ann Coulter in the summer of 2001 and called her a "vampire." She later used the term to describe arab muslims. Good luck. I wouldn't waste my time, though.
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