I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
WoooooooooHoooooooooo!!!!
happy Hannukah Y'alll
Vietnam II: Halliburton Boogaloo!
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No. 3?
Kevin, please rent a brain long enough to actually think about something.
Please.
I hope everyone can forgive me for killing the last thread.
And say a good word on my behalf to the powers that be as I descend into whole foods xmas hell.
It's the need-neediest ti-i-i-i-i-ime of the year.
How can Drum be "glad" about this Surge? Is he crazy? What does he think is going to be different this time?
goddamn, Drum makes me tired.
My goodness, Atrios uses a lot of naughty words in that post.
I thought that 2003 was the make or break year...
And say a good word on my behalf to the powers that be as I descend into whole foods xmas hell.
Mine was not crowded. I just got back. I parked right in front of the door.
Hope you have the same experience.
Anyway, new strategy, same results: More dead people.
Kevin, please rent a brain long enough to actually think about something.
Tena,
not gonna happen!
good morning BTW!
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All the "Surge" is going to do is get more soldiers killed as part of Lord Fuckwit's delusion that he's "winning" by not leaving.
It's a waste of resources, of lives.
But Lord Fuckwit (and his shithead enablers) don't care about that.
They keep digging the fucking hole deeper and deeper.
The violence WILL CONTINUE as long as US Troops are present. It cannot end as long as we are there. It will only stop after we have left.
I was right. But I take little pleasure in being correct.
"goddamn, Drum makes me tired."
drum is an idiot. i hate to say that about a person who is so pleasant, but i honestly think he's enjoys being shat upon so he can still remain 'civil'and 'moderate'. it's his signture personality trait.
Mine was not crowded. I just got back. I parked right in front of the door.
Hope you have the same experience.
Tena
Thanks... ah specks it'll be a mite different here in Arlingtron, though.
Anyway, new strategy, same results: More dead people.
smitty w
And more supposedly liberal cheerleaders.
Fuck you Kevin - what is the matter with you?
Still, honesty compels me to say that I'm glad this is going to happen.
You fuckwit, Drum. How in the world can you be glad about continuing this fucking war when everyone else in the whole goddamn world is yelling "Stop it!"?
Many different terms for "We can't leave, we'd look foolish." Same as Vietnam, check.
Partitioning off the locals into US controlled enclaves - "Oil Spot" strategy, Vietnam, check.
Those saying "fuck 'face' just get out, however we look, we can worry about that later" called 'dirty hippies' -well sorta, check.
All in all this adds up to not a damn thing like Vietnam. just ask the hawks who bitched about Vietnam comparisons circa "Mission Accomplished".
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btw, good luck in 2 days, tena! hope it goes well
Not many people here, hmph. Well, I guess I haven't been here all day either. I even abandoned my duties on the overnight shift.
good morning BTW.
UNE_KaiserShitEatingGrillhelm™
Good afternoon, good looking.
Tena,
Drum USED to be on my list of stop and sees, now: never. I even erased him from favorites.
If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.
If they go ahead with this, and they will no matter what us DFH's say, it will leave St John McCain with nothing to campaign on.
btw, good luck in 2 days, tena! hope it goes well
jdw
O thank you - I'm sure it will.
I just have to come up with the money to pay you.
why doesn't the wingers take into account that the same incompetence gits aren't willing to learn a damned thing. They don't seem to think that the Iraqi's will have anything to do with it.
my two cents: they arent about to change anything ... they are digging the hell out of the money and hostility is selling like hotcakes ... corruption only matters if you get caught ... up to that point it's always true patriotism and fellow to the order of kapitalism
If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.
DWD -Dirty Fucking Hippy
O Kevin's been part of the problem for a long damn time.
Some liberal - he won't let you comment if he doesn't approve.
How many "one last shots" do they need?
Is Pony Time anything like Hammer Time?
And no, I don't feel like photoshopping a pony in shiny harem pants.
Atrios, you do write well. You should write more posts of greater length.
As we've seen with both neoconservative hawks and liberal hawks, they're never wrong and the mess they've created will always justify the continued mess.
Look, you can't argue with people who refuse to exam the truth. You can provide statistics, data, evidence, etc., and if they're not willing to see it, they won't. At which point, you continue to say what you believe, and simply walk away from their ignorance and inability to make decisions based on facts.
Nim used a phrase I like a lot the other day, and it applies here, as well, these people are deliberately obtuse.
From linky:
I know this makes me a bad person with no concern for human life etc. etc. (feel free to expand on this sentiment in comments), but at some point we have to come to a conclusion on this stuff.
Oh, I see...
This 'conclusion' doesn't bode well for ANYONE! This 'conclusion' maims and kills thousands. This 'conclusion' makes sure that we'll have the grandest of idiots among us for a long time to come.
Some liberal - he won't let you comment if he doesn't approve.
Tena
I haven't tried commenting over there in a long time. I got banned awhile back and never tried again.
I really don't quite understand why Atrios is sympathetic to Kevin's attempt to think about this. I guess because Kevin's a nice guy.
Jesus, Kevin, you've had 4 fucking years to think about this.
How much more time do you goddamn well need?
If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.
And the solution is in the generation of ideas, not uncontrolled rage.
awright -- off to the gym.
later batsies.
I haven't tried commenting over there in a long time. I got banned awhile back and never tried again.
flory '
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Same thing happened to me, flory. I've never been back either.
Unlike Atrios, I have no patience whatsoever left for Drum.
I got banned awhile back and never tried again.
Why anyone would ban flory is beyond me. You don't even swear that often.
All I know is that some chicken soup can't hurt.
why doesn't the wingers take into account that the same incompetence gits aren't willing to learn a damned thing. They don't seem to think that the Iraqi's will have anything to do with it.
A part of it is, i think, the assumption of total superiority implicit in Empire. The 19th century Brisish Empire view of reality was "The wogs don't matter" and "Whatever happens we have got/ the Maxim gun, and they have not".
Doses of reality impacting this attitude were invariably unpleasant to the taste......
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All I know is that some chicken soup can't hurt.
Gomez
Are you talking Chicken Soup for Drum's Soul?
Well, Vicki, I didn't swear in the comment that got me banned, either.
As a matter of fact, it was quite polite, but I was pointing out where Kevin was dead wrong about something.
And got banned for my politeness.
Tena: Jesus, Kevin, you've had 4 fucking years to think about this.
Kevin supported the invasion even before it happened. That's what I don't get-- how could an intelligent, informed person not have understood this from the beginning?
Kevin sure likes tossing the babies out with the bathwater.
The conservatives would play the "we would have won if not stabbed in the back by dirty stinking hippies" card, regardless of any possible way that this war had been managed and lost.
the only lesson they learned from viet nam was that there are golden ponies that can be had if we (Royal, i.e. other people) just dig through enough manure.
They are deluded and delusional, and will simply not change their tune no matter how horrific things get.
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I was of the contingent who felt that pressuring Congress to cut off funding for this war was a bad idea because it would jeopardize the troops stuck there.
Now, I'm not so sure.
Are you talking Chicken Soup for Drum's Soul?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Chicken Soup for teh Hot Moonbat Soul.
" But if it doesn't, there's a chance that the country will actually learn something from this."
drum never learns that it doesn't matter what the dems do to try to deny the opportunity of the gop to frame them as whatever they want. did johnson escallating in viet nam stop the gop from saying the dems were weak on defense or communism?
the dems gave the chimp every last fucking thing he wanted so they wouldn't be called weak on terra. did that stop them from saying dems are weak on terra? ditto with gvt spending and every other fucking issue the dems have caved on over the last two decades.
at heart, drum is a wimp. he thinks if you just conceed everything, there will no longer be an argument and we'll all be one big, happy bipartisan family. he must be really fucked up psychologically.
Late last night, when I first heard the story, I was telling folks of my wife's cousins in Indiana.
I have known Mike and his wife for nearly forty years now. He is a nice man but hopelessly lost in wingnuttery (Common in rural Indiana I think - right, Kent?)
Before the last election I was talking to them and they were dyed in the wool Bush people. Now, Mike's son is in Iraq as a Sgt in the Special Forces. His parents are sick with worry.
Last week the young man had something come up and he had to not go on patrol with his squad. A last minute reprieve as it turned out for three of his soldiers were killed by an IED.
But why do they have to wait until the inevitable comes 'round? Wouldn't it be better and easier to think in the first place?
Damn.
krsaz was banned from Washington Monthly, too, iirc.
The 'Pukes will climb over mounds of dead bodies to avoid the "Loosers of Iraq" label. They're counting on the Dems to pull the plug on the war.
Bush is going to ride it out his last two years in office. That's his plan, to blame the inevitable "loss" and "failure" in Iraq on the next president, President Cut n' Run. Why McCain (or anyone, for that matter) wants the job is beyond me.
Bonjour! Kittens anyone?
http://www.dailykitten.com/
Good afternoon, good looking.
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the citizens of nazi germany were oh so sorry to see their friends go too ... but that didnt stop them from stealing all their shit the minute they were packed on the choo choo train toward the death camps ... they did wave with a handkerchief they'd just "found" and whispered ... glad it isnt me. people like Goode say there's no place in america for the browns ... I wonder which browns he means of should I understand it to mean all of them and anything they might believe in beyond what Mr Virgil Goode believes in.
he thinks if you just conceed everything, there will no longer be an argument and we'll all be one big, happy bipartisan family.
jdw - you know, I'm really puzzled by people like Drum because they seem to be the only ones left in this country who think that they can make Repugs see reason. That's just so out there after the last 6 years that it makes me wonder how they can continue to push this.
It has happened yet - and it's not going to. The only way everybody gets nonpartisan and happy is if everyone goes along with CooCoo.
it has not happened yet...
Wouldn't it be better and easier to think in the first place?
Sure would have. Which is what we were all clamoring for at the time.
That story is very sobering, DWD. Audrey's best friend's brother has been in similar circumstances. The kid now suffers from PTSD, among other things. He developed Grand Mal seizures in Iraq.
DWD, I will pray for peace for Mike, his son, and his family. That was really tough to read.
Bush wants a surge because it's the only way to avoid admitting defeat right now.
It will take months to get the troop levels up another 20,000, during which time we will be told not to make any judgments about Iraq because, you know, the surge is happening.
Then it will take another couple of months for the new mission, whatever it is, to fail.
So say, by this time next year, the surge strategy will be a proven failure. Oops, that's before January 20 2009, Bush will have to think of something else at that point.
(Common in rural Indiana I think - right, Kent?)
That's an affirmative, sir!
Afton Bob!
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Bush wants a surge because it's the only way to avoid admitting defeat right now.
I wonder what it feels like to be as wrong as he is wrong every fucking day of his life.
He has to be self-loathing at this point. Maybe deeply in denial, but definitely self-loathing.
Expanding on Kevin's point: Bush would like to blame someone else for the failure of Iraq, but his problem is no one has ever said "No" to him. He got every troop and every month and every dollar he wanted, on the timetable he wanted, no one stopped him. And now look at the result. That is the result of Bush running everything and having total control. How can he shift the blame onto someone else? He'll try, we know that for sure.
I say let Bush have his way until there is a total and real defeat.
It will be America's last war for thirty years and millions of lives will be saved in the long run.
We can't stop him anyway unless he is removed from office, which won't happen.
I haven't tried commenting over there in a long time. I got banned awhile back and never tried again.
flory '
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Same thing happened to me, flory. I've never been back either.
Unlike Atrios, I have no patience whatsoever left for Drum.
Tena
That's interesting, he bans you guys, but lets trolls run amok on his comment threads. I stopped reading his blog not so much because of the content but because it was so badly troll-infested. Priorities, Kevin?
Before the last election I was talking to them and they were dyed in the wool Bush people. Now, Mike's son is in Iraq as a Sgt in the Special Forces. His parents are sick with worry.
Last week the young man had something come up and he had to not go on patrol with his squad. A last minute reprieve as it turned out for three of his soldiers were killed by an IED.
But why do they have to wait until the inevitable comes 'round? Wouldn't it be better and easier to think in the first place?
God I hate this so. Our friends and neighbors and fellow citizens shouldn't have to be facing this shit - this potential loss of people they love dearly for nothing. I'm just sick. I hope your friends' son makes it through - with all my heart.
The 'Pukes will climb over mounds of dead bodies to avoid the "Loosers of Iraq" label. They're counting on the Dems to pull the plug on the war.
Lime Rickey
my guess is they had no intention of "winning" in the first place ... they had enough to do developing a strategy on how to stay and make it look like they were doing something with our money besides stealing it
It's cognitive dissonance. They can't bring themselves to face how profoundly wrong everyone, except for the, you know, dirty fucking hippies have been, so they continue to proclaim that with the next new plan things will finally work out. Cognitive dissonance explains a lot of the insanity that seems to have infected the pundit class these last five years.
That's interesting, he bans you guys, but lets trolls run amok on his comment threads. I stopped reading his blog not so much because of the content but because it was so badly troll-infested. Priorities, Kevin?
Buzz Bomb
I don't know - this was over a year ago and maybe he changed his policy - I haven't been back.
On that sobering note, I've gotta go to a store on University Ave. that was once the last Montgomery Ward's in the state...I think.
Laterz.
"I say let Bush have his way until there is a total and real defeat."
but bush has already defined losing as 'leaving'. as long as there are troops there we will not be losing, and there will be troops there long after the chimp leaves office.
I say let Bush have his way until there is a total and real defeat.
I'd like to agree with you, but I can't. No more soldiers should die because of Bush's folly. It's a clusterfuck on a grand scale, and Bush belongs in the Hague.
Bring 'em home, yesterday.
For what it's worth, I stopped reading Drum before any of y'all!!!
/Snooty McSnooterson
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Kent,
Doing passable this day. My creative juices are beginning to flow again and that is good. I may actually start one of these ideas that vie fro precedence.
(I had an entire novel revealed to me in a dream the other night. But it was like a Sci Fi movie so I let it go)
My creative juices are beginning to flow again and that is good.
Yes, that is good. Good on you.
I should be doing something creative, like shopping for food for Monday, but I'm warm and comfy right now.
For what it's worth, I stopped reading Drum before any of y'all!!!
/Snooty McSnooterson
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UNE_KaiserShitEatingGrillhelm™
You're just smarter than I am.
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It's all about winning and losing, politically, in America. All these prognostications have nothing to do with actual results in Iraq. Fuck Iraq. The important point is that the republicans are not seen as "losers" here in the states. And yes, they'll sacrifices thousands more lives to achieve that perception.
"It's a clusterfuck on a grand scale, and Bush belongs in the Hague."
Now THAT would be some legacy, wouldn't it? One can only hope...
But I was just listening to the Garden Song and thinking of Hecate and GWPDA: isn't that nice.
And we are made of Dreams and bones. An apt description.
Bush is going to ride it out his last two years in office.
"Ride it out" is a mild way to put it. Think! Lil' Boots has announced he wants to raise $500 million from corporate donors, ostensible purpose, a library.
2 years to give $500 million worth of quid-pro-quo in exchange for the money. A record in world history, category, " orgy of government misappropriation".
He's going to be "riding", all right. And You, My Little Pony Taxpayer, will be praying to Jebus for some lube.
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RE: The Dirty Fucking Hippies being right, let me repeat one of my favorite comments, one that drives the Stupid Fucking Libertarian chickenhawks apeshit:
"EVERYTHING Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice, et al, said about Iraq has been proved to have been a LIE! Everything they predicted would come to pass in Iraq, HASN'T!
EVERYTHING Howard Dean said about Iraq has been proved to be the TRUTH. Everything he predicted would come to pass in Iraq, HAS!
And Dean is the 'crazy one'?"
The important point is that the republicans are not seen as "losers" here in the states. And yes, they'll sacrifices thousands more lives to achieve that perception.
But, they are losers. They've proved it with their failed policies on damned near everything.
The people see it. That's why so many house seats turned - even in a very gerrymandered country at this point. And 7 million - YES! - 7 million more people voted for Democrats for Senators than voted for Republicans! That's why the Senate turned, too.
People *get* that they are losers.
And if they don't *get* that, well, then, more power to the Democrats!
bush has always been self loathing (who knows just why that is, although I've got a notion or two)
that's why he takes losing with apparent ease and lying is like breathing for him.
You're just smarter than I am.
Nah, but i am happy I made you laugh!
(I had an entire novel revealed to me in a dream the other night. But it was like a Sci Fi movie so I let it go)
Oh man, I would have been happy to read that!!
But you must follow your muse......I hope the weather is pleasant up north.
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It's a clusterfuck on a grand scale, and Bush belongs in the Hague.
Sounds like a good campaign slogan for the '08 Dem nominee. Will it fit on a bumpersticker?
Now, I'm not so sure.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
I've changed my mind about that, too. If CooCoo is going to continue to be intractable about this, then something has to give.
It's either that - or the new Democratic Congress can start worrying about hanging on to it. I'm out of patience with Democrats who buy this shit.
One last chance. O please.
Good morning, holiday bats. We've been down all morning. I was forced to actually do work.
Everything the murderer said about his victim has been proven to be a lie. He walked into his victims house, raped her, and shot her execution style in the back of the head - all the while proclaiming various calumnies about her. Now the murderer thinks he can just walk out and leave? No. The murderer owes a debt. His dollars are worthless. The only currency to settle in is blood.
If the murderer doesn't like that, it shouldn't have committed the murder.
Bring 'em home, yesterday.
We can't while Bush is in charge. It's not possible.
And the kind of real and total defeat I'm talking about isn't merely strategic defeat (that happened years ago), I mean getting our supply lines cut and our bases and the Green Zone overrun, with hundreds dead and thousands surrendering to the enemy.
A worse defeat than Vietnam.
And that's after Bush and the War Party has had everything their way.
That will be the end of the War Party for a generation. It will be a gift to our grandchildren.
It is axiomatic (as George Will would say) that you establish foreign policy credibility with the MSM by being horrifically wrong on an important foreign policy issue. Your credibility increases if your decisions result in the loss of lives and treasure
Well I have had a wonderful time in the kitchen. For some reason, I thought it was important that I should wear some of everything I was preparing. Who knew wine could pop out of the bottle if the cork accidentally got pushed into the bottle.
Good morning, holiday bats. We've been down all morning. I was forced to actually do work.
Sallyh
O NOooooooooooooooooooooo!
the rethugs think we coulda won in Vietnam but for the hippies. If they believe that, of course, they believe they can win--whatever that means--in Iraq.
The generals--count abizaid--asked them to define win, but theny and chimpy cant. so ABZ opposed more troops.
(separately: I willnever adopt their lingo of "the surge"; to adopt their lingo is to enter into their logic. It is more troops.)
But ABZ is leaving in March, so he just said what the fuck and his successors see more stars on their shoulders...etc. Chimpy will keep changing generals until he gets one that buys the shit.
Well I have had a wonderful time in the kitchen. For some reason, I thought it was important that I should wear some of everything I was preparing
Well everyone will know who has been doing the cooking, this way.
;lol:
gryptype--my granddaughter deserves better.
Tena--it was truly sad and pathetic.
Has it been officially announced whether these extra troops are part of a new strategy or is it just speculation about taking on the Shia?
oh yea, and the Dems need to demand that Bush pay for the war. No more supplemental budgets.
You want war, give up the high-end tax cuts. You want more troops, a larger Army--pay for it.
that has to be the mantra.
Second verse, same as the first. More killing. WTF!
Tena--it was truly sad and pathetic.
Sallyh,
I'm so sorry.
Well I have had a wonderful time in the kitchen. For some reason, I thought it was important that I should wear some of everything I was preparing
Black jeans are the uniform of choice for this
Well everyone will know who has been doing the cooking, this way.
But I smell of cheap merlot, so they will think I was drunk. Which would not be so bad if I actually was.
gryptype--my granddaughter deserves better.
She sure does.
$500 million worth of quid-pro-quo
this administration and thus our current ruling structure makes caliglia's rome seem like a contemporary culture although there's slightly less fisting and alot more murder
Good morning, holiday bats. We've been down all morning. I was forced to actually do work.
Sallyh
This is indeed an outrage.
I've been wraping war on christmas presents all morning. It has finally has set in that there are no more weekends to wait for before I did it.
It has finally has set in that there are no more weekends to wait for before I did it.
Sounds like you are a charter member of the procrastinator's club. What a coincidence - so am I.
Matthew--I thought I was done on December 9th.
It dawned on me this morning that the animals do not have gifts.
Maybe I'll give Monsieur that job.
Acceptable left flank? I would say that's overstating the uniformity of current real-world discussions. When you have the Joint Chiefs out of joint, Joe Scarborough up in (anti-) arms, and only a small fraction of the public standing in support of this war, the notion that only mild dissent is acceptable now describes only a rapidly shrinking Washington coven of mutual admirers.
I am betting tomorrow morning will be a good time to start my Christmas shopping. I do hope I am the only one who made this plan.
Last day before a trip to France to see our daughter.
Mercifully, Jack--who had his hind leg amputated because of cancer two months ago--is doing really well. The neighbors will take care of him and he can stay in his yard instead of a kennel--which he hates--or having to move to someone else's for the duration.
love to you all.
happy nyear
merry all of that--and now into the light, post solstice.
no laptop on the trip.
la la
Snow--good luck with that one.
It dawned on me this morning that the animals do not have gifts.
Sallyh
my cats have been playing with the little play mobil toys from Devon's advent calendar...they don't get no stinkin presents until they stop with the hairball business!
Peterboy - Happy happy and joy joy, and have a great trip.
Be safe.
Snow,
Umm, good plan. Umm, yeah. That's the ticket.
Matthew--mine did so enjoy helping me wrap gifts a few weeks ago. There are tiny piercings in most of the wrapping paper.
Some of the ribbons and bows are looking a bit, well, bedraggled.
I've been wraping war on christmas presents all morning. It has finally has set in that there are no more weekends to wait for before I did it.
::matthew
me too! I just had to get the kids some of those new micro-wave stun guns ... they've been running around the house and yard slow cooking each other for hours. It's all fun until someone loses a spleen
good luck with that one.
Proper prior planning is a powerful weapon. You cannot procrastinate without it.
I didn't realize until I was wraping them this morning, but almost all the presents for Sarah are kitchen related.
I hope I don't get in trouble for that.
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It's all fun until someone loses a spleen
Then it's hilarious.
Has it been officially announced whether these extra troops are part of a new strategy or is it just speculation about taking on the Shia?
But you see, that's 'teh funny' from Bushworld. "More troops"? There aren't more troops. G.I. Joe, asked by the Sec. Defense, sure, he'd like reinforcements.
But the "reinforcements" are ol' G.I. Joe, himself, forced into another combat tour, re-upped 'for the duration' from Reserves or Guard....in short, Joe don't understand that "more troops" to him means "more troops", but to Bushco means "more use out of the existing ones".
Wait until our generic rifleman figures THAT one out. Happy faces, you betcha.......
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Has it been officially announced whether these extra troops are part of a new strategy or is it just speculation about taking on the Shia?
Gimlet
There is no strategy at all, other than the domestic political one. As someone pointed out upthread, this is all about the appearance of doing "something." Bush basically has three choices: leave now, which is unthinkable for him; do nothing, i.e. keep doing what he's been doing for the past four years, which has grown politically untenable; or add MORE troops, a.k.a. a "surge" in Newspeak. The third option is really the only one Bush has.
I am betting tomorrow morning will be a good time to start my Christmas shopping. I do hope I am the only one who made this plan.
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Some of the ribbons and bows are looking a bit, well, bedraggled.
Sallyh
I had to give up on ribbon a few years ago when got the kittens. Spooky will eat ribbon like it's catnip. Indoor plants don't fair much better
I hope I don't get in trouble for that.
In all seriousness, though, if she likes to cook, she'll love the gifts. If she doesn't know how to boil water, you may want to rethink the plan, at least for next year.
grytpype, I have to disagree with you on this.
It's not like this abominable war is the only issue facing this country. We simply cannot afford to let this go on any longer, and by 'afford' I mean in terms of lives, money, and national interest.
If nothing else, we still have the other two sectors of the "axis of evil" currently roiling. The talks with North Korea (as Ruth points out here) have ended without any real progress.
Iran is moving merrily ahead with their plans (whatever in the hell they are) even in the face of what I suspect are weak and unenforceable sanctions.
And right now, because of the Iraq debacle, there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.
Matthew--no indoor plants. Besides, I kill them just fine without feline assistance.
Bush is going to ride it out his last two years in office.
"Ride it out" is a mild way to put it. Think! Lil' Boots has announced he wants to raise $500 million from corporate donors, ostensible purpose, a library.
It may be better if we don't talk about this goddamn library right now. I already have a stomachache over it because Dallas and my alma mater are putting the show on to get it here and I am about to explode over it.
The third option is really the only one Bush has.
Yes, but I'm praying that the Democratic congress can make his last two years miserable. And by putting the pressure on him to pull out, by not funding his fiasco, he's going to get really petulant.
This will be fun to watch, boys and girls.
vicki,
she's quite the cook. I however do most of the cooking as of late with my "house husband" status.
She's wanted a good french mandoline, some new measuring cups, and a few other accessories for a while.
this administration and thus our current ruling structure makes caliglia's rome seem like a contemporary culture although there's slightly less fisting and alot more murder
no nice want naughty
'Wouldn't it be easier to think in the first place...?'
Its not their thinking, its the evil and deliberate bamboozlement of the public. There was a time when 70% of the public thought Saddam was involved in 9/11.
That doesn't happen by accident. And if you get your news from Fox and talk radio, you're immersed in a sea of spin and flat out lies.
Buzz Bomb
Bush has been trying these little surges for years. Every time someone tells him there should be more troops in Iraq he does a little surge of 20,000 troops. Every time you here of a unit getting extended in Iraq, that is Bush doing a surge.
"the Dems need to demand that Bush pay for the war. No more supplemental budgets.
You want war, give up the high-end tax cuts. You want more troops, a larger Army--pay for it."
I like it. What are the odds the democratic lradership will?
I am wondering how many tours GI Joe is going to endure before he says NO. What would happen if many thousands of men went AWOL and refused deployment to hell?
She's wanted a good french mandoline,
NO FLIRTING!!
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Matthew--you'll be the man on Christmas morning, then.
I have no idea what Monsieur got me. Can't figure out what's in the packages.
That will be the end of the War Party for a generation. It will be a gift to our grandchildren.
grytpype
Hopefully. If we are to avoid a repeat of the current mess, we'll need to make damn sure that the baby repukes that have been installed at all levels of gov't under this junta are removed.
Or we'll be looking at another deal like this in 2 to 3 decades.
...Bush doing a surge.
Snow
ever since somebody post a picture of that serge dude from Beverly Hills Cop, doing a serge has a new meaning to me.
That doesn't happen by accident. And if you get your news from Fox and talk radio, you're immersed in a sea of spin and flat out lies.
Yes! They spin with fear and anger, to the point where it is ineffective.
Cynicus ... there's more than one Bush yah know ...the first one hands us unregulated banking and thus as much pretend credit card funds as we can wrap our greasy little fingers around ... when we default and wonder how in the hell we're gonna pay it back the second one shoves rumsfeld toward us with a gun and says ... here, I think that brown person just said something about wanting to *crew your mother, and offers you a "security bonus"
It may be better if we don't talk about this goddamn library right now. I already have a stomachache over it because Dallas and my alma mater are putting the show on to get it here and I am about to explode over it.
Tena
Well, look on the bright side. If it does end up there, it'll be conveniently located for vandalism and defacement purposes.
The violence in Iraq will resolve itself at some point regardless of American troop levels. That is probably the plan: keep the troops at significant levels until the Iraqi power struggle plays itself out, then declare victory and pull out. I think that is what BUsh is banking on.
I have no idea what Monsieur got me. Can't figure out what's in the packages.
Sallyh,
I'm starting to build up excitement. My husband is acting like the cat who ate the canary; he's very proud of whatever he got me. My son had my friend in Colorado who is a jeweler make something for me; I had to go wait in line at the P.O. to pick up the package this morning and it's under the tree and now I can't wait.
ever since somebody post a picture of that serge dude from Beverly Hills Cop, doing a serge has a new meaning to me.
Like proper prior planning, the double entendre is a powerful tool.
"What would happen if many thousands of men went AWOL and refused deployment to hell?"
I've wondered the same thing. And I can't imagine a scenario that is not really really ugly.
Well, look on the bright side. If it does end up there, it'll be conveniently located for vandalism and defacement purposes.
Buzz Bomb
I've already told Mr. Tena to start saving bail money.
Plus, I have a plan to pay a tagger $100 a week to paint Worst President Ever on the fucking thing every week until I die.
Plus, I have a plan to pay a tagger $100 a week to paint Worst President Ever on the fucking thing every week until I die.
Tena
if you want, I can put it on my target list for when I get my B2 bomber.
That is probably the plan: keep the troops at significant levels until the Iraqi power struggle plays itself out, then declare victory and pull out. I think that is what BUsh is banking on.
Probably-shmobably. Stay the rest of the Bushco term, hand off the smelly mess, start the 'Democrat/hippie/liberal stab-in-the-back' explanation on the mighty Wurlitzer, allow the Dems 4 years to do some repairs, run Jeb in 2012 after a titanic campaign of PR paid for by the unused $350 million of the W. liberry fund.
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Yes! They spin with fear and anger, to the point where it is ineffective.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
My brother recently got a satellite dish, and yesterday was the first time he'd ever seen FOX news. I was on the phone with him a little while ago and he said, "How in the hell could anyone watch that crap? It's like they live in a different world."
I said, "Yes, they really do."
if you want, I can put it on my target list for when I get my B2 bomber.
::matthew
Works for me, but until you do, I think it may be more realistic to pay a tagger.
Plus, I have a plan to pay a tagger $100 a week to paint Worst President Ever on the fucking thing every week until I die.
Tena
if you want, I can put it on my target list for when I get my B2 bomber.
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There oughta be a law... Can't we pass a law that the worst president ever can't have a library??
We'll let him clean toilets in the other ones though...
allow the Dems 4 years to do some repairs, run Jeb in 2012 after a titanic campaign of PR paid for by the unused $350 million of the W. liberry fund.
O stop. Jeb is not going to be president. Another Bush will not see public office for at least the next generation.
That's just not going to happen.
Cynicus,
It sounds all too plausible. And I am afraid I do not believe the the amerikin sheeple are going to be smart enough to avoid it. Nor will they listen to the dirty fucking hippies of the world. We are, after all, libruls.
Gomez' cold is in its "last throes"
I believe the next six months will be critical.
ok maybe jeb as presnit might not be but the rest looks spot on from here.
O stop. Jeb is not going to be president. Another Bush will not see public office for at least the next generation.
"No tengo futuro."
That's right, motherfucker.
There oughta be a law... Can't we pass a law that the worst president ever can't have a library??
I'm going to do what I can to try to stop this - but the Dallas paper hasn't even generated a pro forma automated email message to tell me they got my letter about it, and usually that triggers the automated message.
I can't figure out if they are just going to pretend they aren't getting letters of protest or what.
I believe the next six months will be critical.
Gomez
we're fresh out of F.U.s
how about 2 hamilton's
"keep the troops at significant levels until the Iraqi power struggle plays itself out"
This assumes there would be a sufficient number of troops willing to continue being deployed. At this point the Army is broken, who knows how many years it will take to bring it back to pre-Iraq. Not to mention no one has really been told what the cost will be of replacing the spent equipment.
I don't think you'll read about this in the US press:
US Tests Military Call Up System
how about 2 hamilton's
::matthew
The media refuses to report the good news about my cold.
Tena,
You also said your alma mater was trying to get the thing. They might pay attention to letters from alums threatening to cut all donations.
Then if the school is on board, they could help spread the message that bush's toilet paper must find another outhouse.
It sounds all too plausible. And I am afraid I do not believe the the amerikin sheeple are going to be smart enough to avoid it.
Would that be the over 60% of Americans who hate his guts and have figured out that CooCoo is the worst president ever with no help at all from the media?
Those voters - is that who is too stupid?
November 7, 2006, changed everything and proved my ongoing point about Americans. They are neither stupid nor apathetic. Did you see the voter turnout numbers for the mid-terms? It was pretty much unprecedented in places, it was so high.
"allow the Dems 4 years to do some repairs, run Jeb in 2012 after a titanic campaign of PR paid for by the unused $350 million of the W. liberry fund."
O stop. Jeb is not going to be president. Another Bush will not see public office for at least the next generation.
Hey, tena, i said "run Jeb", not "Jeb wins". No, Jeb won't win the vote.
Now, appontment by the Supreme Court, by the 7 of 9 Justimaces appointed by Bush I or II (given W's Satanic luck, at least 2 more deaders to replace in his two lame years).......that might be the plan.
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You also said your alma mater was trying to get the thing. They might pay attention to letters from alums threatening to cut all donations.
O I intend to. We haven't given them much money, but I'm sure going to let them know they'll never get another cent if this happens.
I am looking forward to November 3, 2008. Well, more so November 4, but same thing essentially.
< i>Now, appontment by the Supreme Court, by the 7 of 9 Justimaces appointed by Bush I or II (given W's Satanic luck, at least 2 more deaders to replace in his two lame years).......that might be the plan.
That is not going to happen again. That was only possible once. Believe me - no one will fall for that bullshit again.
Please don't start this shit - there is not going to be another Bush in the White House in my lifetime, at least.
Tena, you could leave a little endowment in your will to keep the tagging going in perpetuity. I'm sure one of the many Atriot lawyers would be able to help you set that up.
"Would that be the over 60% of Americans who hate his guts and have figured out that CooCoo is the worst president ever with no help at all from the media?"
Yeah - the same 60% who are doing what about the "troop surge".
Within a month of 11/7, we are seriously discussing escalating the war. I sincerely hope you are right. Really, I do. I am, however, not as confident as you in the wisdom of the people.
In an attempt to finish off my cold with a "surge" I intend to down a gallon of chicken soup and take twenty cough drops.
Anyone who disagrees with this strategy hates America and is a dirty fucking hippy.
Yeah - the same 60% who are doing what about the "troop surge".
Uh, and just what exactly do you think they can do?
Tena, you could leave a little endowment in your will to keep the tagging going in perpetuity.
Rule against perpetuities! Some life in being!
Gomez,
You had better be pulled out from that cold by next weekend, or no Steinwoman's for you.
Gomez,
You had better be pulled out from that cold by next weekend, or no Steinwoman's for you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Its really not that bad. I'll be fine.
I don't think you'll read about this in the US press:
US Tests Military Call Up System
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.23.06 - 1:56 pm
Actually, you can, in today's NY Times and earlier in the week in a Hearst wire story.
I think it was a a trial balloon that turned out to be leaden.
Its really not that bad. I'll be fine.
That's what Bush says.
Speaking of colds, I was glad to see that JP's little LarryElvis is feeling better this morning, and taking his amoxicillin like a good boy.
Tena, you could leave a little endowment in your will to keep the tagging going in perpetuity.
Rule against perpetuities! Some life in being!
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
That wouldn't be a bad plan, if I had the money. I don't and that's the problem. The Swift Boaters are backing this thing and throwing the money at it.
That's what Bush says.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Lunch break.
Back in a bit.
Yes, the draft system test made the Chicago Tribune too. If it was a trial balloon, what sort of reaction could they possibly be expecting except snarls and growls and hissing and spitting? Seriously? They must actually believe their own propaganda and that's pretty damn scary.
Cute baby and cat
http://www.flickr.com/photos/119...s/11975650@N00/
merry Christmas you all.
Hmmm. Some days ago I read a long article linked to from war nerd's commentary on WWII from the exile.ru site. It was a critical analysis of several WWII histories comparing the effectiveness of american GI's to german troops. One of the things discussed was the percentage of troops who actually used their weapons in a given combat, which, for the US, was about 25%. This was considered alarming, and thru new training methods, this was increased to about 50% during Korea and (as I recall) approached 100% in the gulf wars.
While the german soldiers were, man-for-man, superior, they also had a less sterling warrior ethic. Basically, being in combat was ok, and so was slaughtering civilians. In contrast, american troops were welcomed with cheers and flowers everywhere, *even in germany* (likely partly becuase germans feared the russians more) but also because americans were normally not prone to raping and looting.
This also tied into some previous reading I had done comparing weapon effectiveness in actual combat vs shooting at wooden targets during the american civil war and earlier 19th century conflicts. It was postulated that many soldiers purposly missed their targets, firing over their heads. This to me tied in with yet other reading by some 19th century french general that suggested that somewhere around 2/3s of troops in an attack situation would find cover and stay there instead of advancing on the enemy. (The reason many ACW battles were so bloody is that they took so long: Antietem had troopers firing at each other hour after hour after bloody hour).
This forms the gist of a theory: that americans in WWII were welcomed with hearts and flowers precisly because they had no lust to kill. In the name of efficiency, training since WWII has emphasized improving both firepower and the level of actual tropp commitement in attack, but the expense may be that american GI's will never be greeted with hearts and flowers again.
It's just a theory.
Hmmmm. CNN reporting that Miss Nevada does not plan to go down . . . without a fight.
Goddamnit, first I got distracted and wrote a long letter (Is there any other kind?) in Salon.com-- a response to a Joe Conason article in which he tut-tutted Pelosi for trying to appoint Murtha despite his ABSCAM past, etc. I usually like Conason, and his topic was "Don't Lose the Momentum", but he said nary a word about Pelosi's pledge to eschew impreachment and Reid's casual reinforcement of Pelosi's readiness to give the Unitard™ carte blanche for continued funding of the Iraq debacle.
(I'm enough of a hot dog to wish Atriots would check out the letter, but since Salon is a premium site this may not be possible.)
Anyhoo, then I remembered I was supposed to check to see if Barnes & Noble finally mailed my goddamn gift card for the wonderful woman who cuts my hair. It isn't in today's mail, goddamnit! How come I can get books and stuff in three or four days, but the goddamn gift card takes forever?
The question is rhetorical-- so now I'm considering slicking down my wild bed hair (i.e. what's left of it) with a gallon of water and scampering down to the bus to the closest B&N to buy a goddamn gift card! I never would've ordered it on-line if I knew it would take forever to arrive. Shit.
So for now, I leave you by heartily concurring that Kevin Drum is a smacked ass... 
US Tests Military Call Up System
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Practically everyone with the exception of chimpco knows there is absolutely no way of sustaining Iraq even at current levels because of the man power issue. Perhaps those who still think this war was worth it should saddle up and take their families with them to the middle east to take up arms against those evil brown people.
Why is Bush at Camp David? He should be at work.
evening moonbats
Works in mysterious ways.
Probably-shmobably. Stay the rest of the Bushco term, hand off the smelly mess, start the 'Democrat/hippie/liberal stab-in-the-back' explanation on the mighty Wurlitzer, allow the Dems 4 years to do some repairs, run Jeb in 2012 after a titanic campaign of PR paid for by the unused $350 million of the W. liberry fund.-
Cynicus - 1:50 pm
my ever-optimistic friend tena's objections to the contrary notwithstanding, i think you've sketched an eminently (and imminently) plausible scenario.
with the seating of th 110th Congress, there will begin an assault on any and every initiative to hold the Busheviks at least even accountable (since there is NOT the will to hold them responsible) for the dreqdful choices and deeds they have committed, based on the rhetoric of 'abandoning the troops/stabbe in the back."
by the election of 2008, the war will have become the Democrats' bete noir, from which they will be unable to separate themselves, either in terms of "Not Winning" or in terms of "betraying the troops."
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"just what exactly do you think they can do?"
good question. all I'm saying is that a midterm beating did not swing things in favor of withdrawl, in fact we're talking about escalating. I would imagine the people could raise some sort of hell about all this, and they aren't, at least not that I can tell.
People in the united states vote against their interests all the time. Set the wayback machine to 6 years in the future. Bushie held on and dumped the mess on a democrat. 4 years are not enough to fix it all, and a repug runs on a national security platform saying he will keep us safe. Impossible?
1992 - after 12 years of tax cuts and wealth redistribution favoring the rich, the people elected a democrat who within 8 years balanced the budget. the people then allowed Bush to take office, on a program of tax cuts and wealth redistribution favoring the rich. Then, after 4 years, they re elected him and added to the repug majorities in congress.
What did it take for the people to wake up and clean out congress? how soon will they forget?
I hope you're right. Really, I hope you're right. I just do not share your confidence in the american people.
...oh, I guess I have to count myself among the dirty fucking hippies.
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"It's just a theory."
It's got me thinking...
by the election of 2008, the war will have become the Democrats' bete noir,
That albatross is hanging around Bush's neck and the GOP's collective neck. It will be a while before history ages enough for people to forget.
"It will be a while before history ages enough for people to forget."
5-15 years tops - and I believe that might be generous. Not all people, but enough to swing an election.
It will be a while before history ages enough for people to forget.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:16 pm
history may be compelled to assign responsibility for it where it belongs...
but 'journalism', the soi-disant 'first draft of history', will follow the dominant, hegemonic rhetoric. the Iraq ICORP (Invasion, Conquest, Occupation, Rape & Pillage) will belong to the Dems by the end of this electoral cycle...
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Time Is Running Out: Environmental Threats Proliferate
this is usually Hecate's domain; i hope she'll forgive me...
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Time Is Running Out: Environmental Threats Proliferate
this is usually Hecate's domain; i hope she'll forgive me...
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Bush lied about the reasons we should invade Iraq.
The decider invaded Iraq without a plan.
The republikkkan congress allowed it to happen and fought tooth and nail against any of the plans from the dems.
Even though the not so excellent Iraq adventure has turned to civil war, it is still bush who refuses to formulate a comprehensive plan to get our men and women the hell out of Iraq.
Meanwhile, the killing continues. Don't think the decider or the rubber stamp party is going to get a pass on this one for at least a few decades.
OK, Miss Nevada thinks her mistake was letting someone take pictures of her naughty behavior.
Miss Nevada seems to be the sort of chick my mamma warned me about. (Darn her, anyway)
my ever-optimistic friend tena's objections to the contrary notwithstanding, i think you've sketched an eminently (and imminently) plausible scenario.
Ten spot says it will never happen. 41 was a crappy president.
I doubt you'll ever see another Bush in a national office. A rep from TX or FL, possibly, but nowhere else.
OK, Miss Nevada thinks her mistake was letting someone take pictures of her naughty behavior.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
After what Miss USA was caught doing you can't blame Miss Nevada for thinking she should retain her crown, after all the photos aren't even current.
What WGG says.
Look, i remember talking to a history prof (PhD, tenured), who said that it takes at least 75 years for 'history' to start getting the perspective on things. Uusally all the participants have to be dead (and participants means those who were alive at the time, not just the directly involved) before all the facts come out and some judgement forms about 'what really happened'.
In the shorter term, it's all more goddamn PR,a nd we know who does that spinning, and in what direction. And will that work? Hey, my parents were alive in WWII. My father fought in the Pacific. And he found himself remembering things differently from what he'd witnessed, until he went back through old letters and a footlocker of miscl. stuff. He admitted that his first, differing recollections were - the result of watching the war movies .
And he was on dammed Iwo Jima.
Could the public have 'forgotten' by 2012? i think maybe, and yeah, that scares me to diarrhea.
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Reindeer: Horses With Antlers
He left out Festivus! What about the rest of us?
OT: MacLeod has a Marxist background and his characters often have either a Marxist/Trotskyist or right libertarian/libertarian capitalist viewpoint. His greens of the future have degenerated from Arne Naess-worship into eco-fascism and primitivism. In the Star Fraction his main character Moh Kohn is scathing about the rural idyll of the primitivist greens -
“Protection. Conservation. Restriction. Deep ecology. Give me deep technology any day. They don't scare me. I'm damned if I'll crawl, my children's children crawl on the earth in some kind a fuckin' harmony with the environment. Yeah, till the next ice age or the next asteroid impact.”
I recommend MacLeods books as a useful mental exercise for more unreflective greens.
http://greenmansoccasional.blogs...d-
survival.html
That albatross is hanging around Bush's neck and the GOP's collective neck.
Repukes aren't that stupid, either. That's another reason you won't see a Bush around.
After what Miss USA was caught doing you can't blame Miss Nevada for thinking she should retain her crown, after all the photos aren't even current.
Miss USA didn't let any one take pictures, dammit. For that alone, she should have been stripped . . . of her tiara.
a plan to help people to where they feel safer within the country
Oh, sure, let's try strategic hamlets again. It's not like it failed the last time. Or, anyway, I'm sure this bunch (the daft and the dimmest?) is more competent than the best and the brightest were then.
I doubt you'll ever see another Bush in a national office. A rep from TX or FL, possibly, but nowhere else.
billy b
I don't think Texas will elect one. And I have my doubts about Florida.
'08 is ours. I have no doubt of that at all.
There is still going to be no attack on Iran
OK, Miss Nevada thinks her mistake was letting someone take pictures of her naughty behavior.
Hell, Miss Nevada needs to report to GOP HQ ASAP. She's the perfect spokesmodel - blonde, gorgeous, substance-abusing, gay on the sly, and believes the crime is catching her doing wrong, not the doing wrong itself.
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Guys - I'm not optimistic - I'm realistic.
Come one - he's down to Barney and the LauraBot2004 as supporters.
That's it - and I have my doubts about both Barney and the LauraBot.
They get cards.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
I love that.
The American people have shown a remarkable talent for forgetting things, sometimes in much less than a generation.
For example, it seems everyone has forgotten that the long occupation of Afghanistan is what finally toppled the Soviet regime.
Iraq is our Afghanistan. By the time we leave, we will be broke and broken. We might survive it without some radical change in form of government like the Soviets underwent, but we won't survive it in prosperity. At least most of us won't.
Y'all are the same ones saying over and over we wouldn't win the midterms, either.
We did.
"another reason you won't see a Bush around."
Probabbly correct. They will run as "not bush", much as someone else ran as a compassionate conservative and a uniter, not a divider.
They might not be named bush, but will they act like him once they get their hands on the trottle?
to borrow from The Yorkshire Ranter - Idealistic but not naive, realistic but not cynical
The Joint Chiefs have unamously said the surge is a stupid idea. We have spent millions training these guys just so when we find ourselves in a tough situation we can get the best advice time and money can provide. So what does w do. Ask a bunch of foot soldiers who are just trying earn a little extra cash to go to college for their advice. How many years of military history have they studied. I wager 50,000,000 quatloos that amongst them it is less than one.
Who will w listen to. /rhetorical question.
Sorry vicki, this shit pisses me off and I will call names and rage all I want. People are dying cause the little shit had a daddy problem. Will someone please give the fucker a blow job so we can get him out.
the Quiet American decoder ring
Atrios remains one of the great phrase-makers of our time.
They might not be named bush, but will they act like him once they get their hands on the trottle?
Uncle Blodge
Can I ask, yet again - why y'all are so damned determined that it's going to all go bad?
It's bad enough now. There's no reason to make up shit that makes it worse.
"Y'all are the same ones saying over and over we wouldn't win the midterms, either.
We did."
True dat - and Lord, do I hope I am wrong again.
Sorry vicki, this shit pisses me off and I will call names and rage all I want. People are dying cause the little shit had a daddy problem. Will someone please give the fucker a blow job so we can get him out.
ql in ny
If you're not mad, you're not paying attention.
People are dying cause the little shit had a daddy problem. Will someone please give the fucker a blow job so we can get him out.
ql in ny | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:34 pm | #
Hey, don't look at me...
They might not be named bush, but will they act like him once they get their hands on the trottle?
That's another matter entirely. Repukes will always gravitate toward this type of asshole. They've done it for a most of the last century. No reason to think that they'll change their spots.
Deep ecology and deep technology don't have to be mutually atagonistic.
I recall a quote from James Kunstler to the effect that changing zoning laws could do much to allay pollution (essentially we need more mixed residential/commercial zones, so that one can walk to stores, etc)
In a similar vein, I suggest that reform of copyright laws (perhaps a return to the 'Founder's Copyright', which only lasted 7 years) could accellerate a trend re teens and young people to consider themselves at the center of a self-produced, multi-media reality show.
That is, american's aren't gonna tolerate reduced expectations, and especially folks in developing countries (watching american tv shows) want an american lifestyle. If that lifestyle involves fancy cars and big SUV's (and the infrastructire to manufacture and support such), that will generate much more greenhouse gases than an alternate lifestyle in which many people can find satisfaction (and wealth) thru mixing and remixing cultural artifacts.
Part of the problem is that Southern Democrats, in some areas, are so beaten down that they cannot see a way out. So they run candidates that sound like Republicans while trying to differentiate themselves from Republicans.
"I'm not a Liberal, I'm a conservative Democrat" is not a rallying cry. Although it certainly is crying.
Read Kennedy's "I'm a Liberal" speech from 1960.
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Moonbootica
Nice pics - hope Heidi isn't eating that tinsel!
Nice pics - hope Heidi isn't eating that tinsel!
Tena | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:38 pm | #
we have a water pistol at Chez Moonbootica to control Heidi when she attempts to attack the tree and drag the tinsel off.
"I'm not a Liberal, I'm a conservative Democrat" is not a rallying cry. Although it certainly is crying.
Read Kennedy's "I'm a Liberal" speech from 1960.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
I do agree with this. We have a serious problem down here. I think we could overcome it with some help from Democrats. One thing that desperately needs attention is NOLA. Lots of shit flows from that, too, and all of it needs governmental attention.
Oh, sure, let's try strategic hamlets again. It's not like it failed the last time.
Operation Oil Spot. so far, Iraq has been Vietnam, but played at 78 instead of 33 1/3.
Scary thing is, we haven't had Tet yet. And, o Lord, the Phoenix Program isn't running yet - i think.
and btw, tena, all i said was that the Bush family plan might be to hold out 2 years, take a term off, then try to rehab Jeb and run him. i don't recall saying anywhere in there that "Jeb 2012" was our destiny - in fact, i said they'd probably have to pull the SCOTUS Cheat Play again to get him in.
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The repukes are splintering and they have enough to blame each other for for the next 75 years. It was neocons fault, no the spendthrifts, no it was teh gay, no it was hateful rhetoric. We just happened to experience a weird confluence that brought all those groups together. They have failed spectacularly and probably won't join up again for a long, long time. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
It's not like this abominable war is the only issue facing this country. We simply cannot afford to let this go on any longer, and by 'afford' I mean in terms of lives, money, and national interest.
OK, but how do you stop the war while Bush and Cheney are in charge?
Everyone knows the surge is a another mistake, but they're getting their surge, right?
They can't be stopped unless they are BOTH removed from office, and the most practical way to do that would be a constitutional amendment. Which isn't too practical.
The war is going to grind on for another two years at least, and there is nothing we can do about it.
"why y'all are so damned determined that it's going to all go bad?"
I've just been burned too many times by thinking that THIS time, the people will vote for what is in their interests. Ok they did this time, but I cannot be sure it wil NOT go bad. The demo leadership will have to have guts and be able to play political fuck fuck better than they ever have in the last half century for it to turn out perfectly. Things can go wrong, and they will go wrong, and the fact that the repugs lost this one does not prove that a good outcome is inevitable.
we have a water pistol at Chez Moonbootica to control Heidi when she attempts to attack the tree and drag the tinsel off.
Ah. Good.
Looks like your house is quite festive and I know you're enjoying your break from university.
I'm so glad you started hanging around here. You are such an asset. Smart as a whip!
For Snow...
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the mess they've created will always justify the continued mess
Boy, that really sums it up.
I heart Ken MacLeod and Kevin Carson, which is why I pimp them a lot.
oh and Ubuntu and The Free Software Foundation
One thing that desperately needs attention is NOLA. Lots of shit flows from that, too, and all of it needs governmental attention.
One wonders why the Dems, especially the local pols, haven't been screaming to high heaven on this one.
The Gulf Coast alone should be reason enough to not see another repuke in office.
If the American people have any common sense at all, no one named Bush will ever be elected to office again. Not even dogcatcher.
One wonders why the Dems, especially the local pols, haven't been screaming to high heaven on this one.
hate to say it, but it probably has to do with racism. Dems don't want to become too associated with minorities.
Ah. Good.
Looks like your house is quite festive and I know you're enjoying your break from university.
I'm so glad you started hanging around here. You are such an asset. Smart as a whip!
Tena | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:41 pm | #
me too, been almost 2 yrs now I think, how time flies.
tee hee my mum was determined to have the least stressful Christmas dinner ever this year, mainly by buying the vegetables and roast potatoes pre-prepared from Marks and Spencers and instead of Turkey we're having beef which is not as time consuming to prepare, she is making the gravy though.
Opti: Here it is, folx. We're going to roll up our sleeves, slap a few idiots silly, and start shoveling the shit into more manageable piles. Then, we'll disinfect the worst spots, and in twenty years, this will all be the nastiest blot of history on our record in over 100 years.
But everyone will know who did it. They'll be long dead, but they'll die in prison.
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I've just been burned too many times by thinking that THIS time, the people will vote for what is in their interests. Ok they did this time, but I cannot be sure it wil NOT go bad.
Why don't you give the new Congress a change to at least convene?
I've been reading doomsday scenarios for the last 4 years at least. We got burned in 2000, badly. We got burned again in '04. But '06 changed the momentum, the mood, and I hope, enough of everything else to get things turned around, to some extent, anyway.
No matter what Congress does, however, I don't get why people still want to blame the American voting public for shit that isn't their fault. And particularly now that the whole country has turned against CooCoo. Support for this newest troop deployment is 12%.
Ok, here's what's gonna happen in 08.
McCain will be the nominee -- barring an act of god, he can't be stopped -- and he will lose in an electoral disaster of Goldwaterian proportions.
Why? Because the stupid fucker gambled on becoming the "more troops" candidate. On the theory that Bush would grab the Iraq Study Group lifeline and go for the exit, thus positioning him (McCain) as the guy who could go "See, if only you'd done what I said, i.e., send more troops, we would have won."
Poor bastard didn't figure that Bush being insane would actually push for more troops on his own. Which means that the war is gonna go from disastrous to incredibly disastrous, and by the time the election rolls around, McCain will be seen as the architect of the disaster.
Hahahaha. The beauty part is that not only will McCain go down, he'll discredit the whole Republican enterprise for years to come.
IMHO.
The war is going to grind on for another two years at least, and there is nothing we can do about it.
grytpype
That, I agree with. No way to get out. Boots and Pork Chop will not allow it. Can't impeach, don't have the votes. Not even close. Regardless of what comes out of the investigations.
One wonders why the Dems, especially the local pols, haven't been screaming to high heaven on this one.
Because the Democrats in general stood around waiting for someone else to lead, and when none did, they just kept standing. Now they feel they can't say anything because the cry will go up "Well, what did YOU do about it?"
And i think the NOLA local pols have been vocal, but the Mighty Wurlitzer is selectively deaf, and never hears it to report it.
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If the American people have any common sense at all, no one named Bush will ever be elected to office again. Not even dogcatcher.
TheOtherWA
I think that very though brought 41 to tears at Jebs goodbye party.
And, o Lord, the Phoenix Program isn't running yet - i think.
Cynicus
Don't bet money.
"Why don't you give the new Congress a change to at least convene?"
Deal.
we stopped having turkey for Christmas dinner about 3 yrs ago, after my dad saw how it wasn't very good value and wasn't really that nice.
We should hear a lot more about NOLA after the Dems can look at the no-bid contracts the repuke clowns handed out to their buddies.
There's plenty more to make taxpayers really pissed off.
Poor bastard didn't figure that Bush being insane would actually push for more troops on his own. Which means that the war is gonna go from disastrous to incredibly disastrous, and by the time the election rolls around, McCain will be seen as the architect of the disaster.
Hahahaha. The beauty part is that not only will McCain go down, he'll discredit the whole Republican enterprise for years to come.
IMHO.
steve simels
I agree with this mostly. I still think we could find that Coocoo has been pressured into changing directions. He'll just blame it all on someone else - it's not going to be his fault, which is fine with me as long as it means something changes.
we stopped having turkey for Christmas dinner about 3 yrs ago, after my dad saw how it wasn't very good value and wasn't really that nice.
Moonbootica
There's a turkey farm near Cockermouth (Moota) that has it's own restaurant, and their's is very yummy.
ugh when Blair goes we will no doubt end up with Brown, which will not make anything better.
fraid British politics is pretty stale at the moment.
Moonbootica Radio 2 is playing Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour right now.
Of course they blocked all US isp's but I found a way around it.
LAW & ORDER: CHRISTMAS INTENT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h?
v=AQPPyVx21Bc
If nothing else, the Gulf Coast situation should call attention to the insurance industry's total lack of good faith and the federal government's total inability to respond to large scale disasters.
Steve Simels--I asked to have you gift wrapped and put under the tree, but apparently Monsieur had other ideas.
Hahahaha. The beauty part is that not only will McCain go down, he'll discredit the whole Republican enterprise for years to come.
IMHO.
steve simels
And in mine as well.
Whodathunk the idiot-in-chief would actually call for escalation. It is going to be one gigantic disaster. And w owns it as his very own. That's what I want to hear from now till after the 2008 election. "Well, we did what coocoo bananas told us to, especially since McCain supported it."
Eat shit repukes.
The demo leadership will have to have guts and be able to play political fuck fuck better than they ever have in the last half century for it to turn out perfectly. Things can go wrong, and they will go wrong, and the fact that the repugs lost this one does not prove that a good outcome is inevitable.
I agree on this. No good outcome is inevitable, Unk B. But the current assholes have fucked this thing up so badly on all fronts that the populace has started paying attention.
The job now is to keep the folks engaged. Dean appears to be doing a decent job. We will have to build on these successes.
Tena --
I don't know about Bush changing direction.
Don't know if I mentioned it, but the other day on Thom Hartman's show on AAR, he had some Brit journalist on who covers the White House, and she basically said that entire press corps had become convinced that Bush is, for want of a better word, unhinged. Literally. She was really scared about it....
They'll be long dead, but they'll die in prison.
Did I say I love this plan?
If nothing else, the Gulf Coast situation should call attention to the insurance industry's total lack of good faith and the federal government's total inability to respond to large scale disasters.
Snow
How dare you impute that the market will not solve all problems.
How dare you.
The Surge eh?
What did the British Generals call that during WWI? It worked out really well didn't it?
Moonbootica Radio 2 is playing Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour right now.
Of course they blocked all US isp's but I found a way around it.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:49 pm | #
cool
I am just listening to a playlist I created on my Creative Zen.
currently on Nina Simone - My Baby Just Cares For Me.
There's a turkey farm near Cockermouth (Moota) that has it's own restaurant, and their's is very yummy.
Yumpin yiminy! A town named "Cockermouth"?
Oh, you MUST be jocking.
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22 December 2006
The Übersexual States of Amerika
AP, 21 December 2006: Miss Nevada USA was stripped of her title Thursday after racy photos of her appeared on the Internet, pageant officials said. Some of the photos show Katie Rees, 22, kissing other young women, exposing one of her breasts and pulling down her pants to show her thong underwear at a party in Tampa, Fla. "Katie Rees has been relieved of her duties as Miss Nevada USA 2007," said Paula M. Shugart, president of the Miss Universe Organization, which owns the Miss USA pageant and others.
Ha ha ha. . .aren’t lesbian exhibitionism and titty-flashing part of a beauty queen’s duties? This is absurd. . .stripping a de facto stripper of her *crown* for stripping?
And the pseudo-lesbianism? Isn’t one of the highlights of all of these televised beauty contests the little segment when they show all the girls having fun together, how much they love each other? They show a dozen of these barely legals crowded into a hotel room, giggling in their pajamas and painting each other’s toenails. . .then we all imagine what cums next.
Poor Katie Rees can strut around semi-nude in front of an auditorium full of leering men, and as long as you have 10 or 12 people judging her like she’s some livestock at a county fair, that’s OK. . .but if she does it at a party, somehow the *integrity* of the Miss Universe Organization is tainted?
Ha ha ha. . .only in the Dissociated States of Amerika could this be possible. . .only in the Dissociated States of Amerika could you have an event in which you parade around a young woman like a $2000-a-night whore, and then call it *wholesome* and *character-building.*
Look, Van Nuys, CA is the USA’s cultural center. . .because of Media’s hyper-sexualizing of the culture, pornography is now the Highest Form of Expression. . .and the timid masses engage in their own kind of childish pretend porn. . .the MySpaces, FaceBooks, LiveJournals, etc., are nothing but finger-paint porn, kindergarten level self-smut.
The average Amerikan slob lives in a constant state of sexual arousal, which he or she views as the sum of all possible human achievement. . .some of these idiots, imagining themselves as glory hole Gautamas, sit nude and alone in front of a tiny computer *cam* and shout into the electronic ethersphere: “Look at me! I’m fucking myself!! Somebody, anyone, please, look at me!! I’m masturbating! I’ve mastered the Noble 8 Fold Path and have attained enlightenment!!”
Of course, there’s no reason to simulate sympathy for Katie Rees. . .this *scandal* is a blessing from her god. With Media currency backed by the porn standard, Katie’s *star* value has now skyrocketed. Nobody knew who she was yesterday. She was just another piece of meat, shopping her titties (like they were résumés) from one party to the next, desperately hoping to find someone who would exploit her. . .and now she’s a genui
I think that very though brought 41 to tears at Jebs goodbye party.
tbsa-buhbye republikkkans
That was my thought too. All his hard work, all those deals, all the planning, all for nothing. It's gone.
Bwahahahahahaahahahahahahaha!
the other day on Thom Hartman's show on AAR, he had some Brit journalist on who covers the White House, and she basically said that entire press corps had become convinced that Bush is, for want of a better word, unhinged. Literally. She was really scared about it....
But none of them will say anything about it.
Fucking whores.
If the American people have any common sense at all, no one named Bush will ever be elected to office again. Not even dogcatcher.
It may be the only positive to come of this debacle.
currently on Nina Simone - My Baby Just Cares For Me.
Moonbootica, Ubuntu User | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:50 pm | #
I love that!
God, I'd kill to be able to play those piano solos.....
Yumpin yiminy! A town named "Cockermouth"?
Oh, you MUST be jocking.
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Cynicus
Cumbria has Cockermouth... Newfoundland has Dildo.
Hi-ho, Steverino!
So did your blog migrate?
"the current assholes have fucked this thing up so badly on all fronts that the populace has started paying attention."
Yeah - and here is a chance to bury the modern conservative movement for decades - if it's handled correctly.
I am hopeful - I'm just not certain.
THE IRAQ HOLOCAUST IS BIPARTISAN.
FUCK THE GOP.
FUCK THE DEMS.
WANT WAR OVER?
REMOVE THE TERRORISTS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE & CONGRESS.
I think that very though brought 41 to tears at Jebs goodbye party.
tbsa-buhbye republikkkans
That's why Poppy has "adopted" all these liberal son stand-ins, like the Big Dog.
You can't tell me he's happy about any of this. He never did like the neo-cons. None of which makes Poppy a good guy - not by a long shot. I can't stand him. But I don't think he's one bit happy with CooCoo.
Whodathunk the idiot-in-chief would actually call for escalation.
As I've been saying--think passive-aggressive stalker-like ex-boyfriend. He's doing everything he can to spite the voters who opposed his plan.
It's not like this abominable war is the only issue facing this country.
trud dat (forgive the lil russian)...
the abominable war is, however, the centerpiece among the apparati of distraction designed to conceal the extent of the mal- and misfeasance in the domestic sphere--the gutting of regulatory legislation, the disemboweling of the regulatory apparati, the planting of hostile administrators in key places in the bureaucracy, the continued consolidation of the media, etc--perpetrated by the Busheviks in the pursuit of their ultimate objective: the destruction of the confidence of the People in the institutions and instruments of their own, democratic self-governance.
the modern corporation is deeply and profoundly hostile to any and all irruptions of democratic rule, both within its own sphere of influence, as well as outside, in the environment that sustains them...
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Yeah - and here is a chance to bury the modern conservative movement for decades - if it's handled correctly.
make sure you put a stake through it's heart, decapitate it, and stuff it's mouth with garlic befoe sewing it shut.
just to cover the bases.
BTW, since Atrios is too polite to point it out, That Idiot Drum is a charter member of "The Dirty Fucking Hippies Made Me Support Bush's War" club... along with That Idiot Ezra.
Two people I have little difficulty in ignoring...
all my mum has to do is pop the marks and spencers stuff in the oven or microwave them.
its a Marks and Spencers Christmas at Chez Moonbootica
Steve Simels--I asked to have you gift wrapped and put under the tree, but apparently Monsieur had other ideas.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.23.06 - 2:50 pm | #
We'll always have Philadelphia...
Uncle Blodge--I think the best we can hope for is a 95% confidence interval.
Because the Democrats in general stood around waiting for someone else to lead, and when none did, they just kept standing. Now they feel they can't say anything because the cry will go up "Well, what did YOU do about it?"
Agree with the first part. I think that what TOW said above may be the kicker, tho.
...start shoveling the shit into more manageable piles. Then, we'll disinfect the worst spots...
Also known as "unshitting the bed."
For some insane reason I actually thought that Gates would be able to talk some sense into Comandante Cuckoo.
But, alas, he's a tarted up criminal too.
the modern corporation is deeply and profoundly hostile to any and all irruptions of democratic rule
What do you mean "modern"?
Corporatism is the enemy of the Enlightenment.
MAYBE IF I TALK LIKE THIS, MORE PEOPLE WILL TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!
Whaddaya think?
I am hopeful - I'm just not certain.
Uncle Blodge, DFH
Everything I say is a best guess, based on what we know. I'm not stupid enough to guarantee anything I think is going to happen.
I'm not sure of anything either, but I'm a hell of lot more certain these days than I used to be. Once the public turned on CooCoo, I started breathing again.
This country is supposed to belong to the public.
globalisation certainly isn't new either.
"make sure you put a stake through it's heart, decapitate it, and stuff it's mouth with garlic before sewing it shut."
Add a silver bullet or 6.
How dare you impute that the market will not solve all problems.
How dare you.
Ha ha! But honestly, I'm not even challenging the free market. I am a strong believer in free markets. The insurance industry is not a free market. Negotiate with an insurance company for a product you would like to buy. A market without negotiable terms is not free.
just to cover the bases.
JR, kerosene and a match | 12.23.06 - 2:53 pm | #
bury it face down so it can't dig its way out too.
I asked to have you gift wrapped and put under the tree, but apparently Monsieur had other ideas.
So Monsieur's getting him now?
Tena--the Bushes never understood that as public servants, they were our employees.
I am a strong believer in free markets.
There is no such thing above the village barter level. it's a myth, like "State of Nature" or "The Tragedy of the Commons".
Add a silver bullet or 6.
Then burn it.
People always forget that part.
Georgism, Tuckerism, and Property Issues: A Compendium of Posts
CooCoo has had a number of chances to pull his reputation back out of the fire and he has shit on everyone consciously and knowingly. It's perversely something that gives me hope.
If he had gone back to his pre-2000 election act, we might be fucked for real. But he hasn't - he's just gotten more out there than ever.
Cat Status Update v2.0
That's where they are, and what they're up to, right now, as I type.
Ready for webcams?
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LIEBERMAN IN 2000!
SKULL & BONES IN 2004!
BUSH-CLINTON DYNASTY IN 2008!
WAY TO GO, DEMOCRATS!~
Great - light posting and a thread hogger.
Love it.
Stop spamming you fucking nut job.
Smells like fy
"Then burn it."
Scattering the ashes at 14 different points on the coastline, plus one in the great lakes.
G W Bush - "I'll do whatever the Generals recommend, as long as it is what I want."
And with all regard to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, if what is being reported is true, that they knuckled under, then I don't want to hear from any of them after they retire. Just go the fuck away, because you are a god-damned disgrace.
Whaddaya think?
No.
Hey JP - LarryElvis is gorgeous. How's he feeling? He had a cold or what? I missed some of that, I just see comments that say people hope he feels better.
Then burn it.
People always forget that part.
dave™©
High enough Protean and it doesn't matter.
[/gamer]
Steve Simels--I asked to have you gift wrapped and put under the tree, but apparently Monsieur had other ideas.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.23.06 - 2:50 pm | #
We'll always have Philadelphia...
steve simels
NO FLIRTING!
Hi-ho, Steverino!
So did your blog migrate?
dave™© | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 2:52 pm | #
Hell, my testicles haven't even descended yet.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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I am hopeful - I'm just not certain.
Uncle Blodge, DFH
Nothing's certain. If you're certain, I have some nice ocean front property for sale.
I agree with Lady Poissonniere. 95% confidence interval. Which, for predicting how people will act in the future is pretty much a sure thing.
If he had gone back to his pre-2000 election act, we might be fucked for real. But he hasn't - he's just gotten more out there than ever.
Agreed, tena. And, may i add, i would LOVE to see the regimen of drugs the White House physician is dosing him with.......
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"If he had gone back to his pre-2000 election act, we might be fucked for real."
Agreed. And the fact that he didn't really opens a shot at burying him and his whole movement.
"make sure you put a stake through it's heart, decapitate it, and stuff it's mouth with garlic before sewing it shut."
I always thought it was holy wafers, not garlic. Maybe both work.
Jeffraham ...
You took your cat to the vet ... for a cold?
DENNIS KUCINICH IS A DIRTY FUCKING HIPPIE.
WE NEED "REAL" LEADERSHIP!
BILLARY BUSH UBER ALLES!~
I always thought it was holy wafers, not garlic. Maybe both work.
General Zod
I think that's for zombies.
Scattering the ashes at 14 different points on the coastline, plus one in the great lakes.
Uncle Blodge, DFH | 12.23.06 - 2:58 pm | #
I hear there's an unused spot at the bottom of the Mariana's Trench that could use filling.
Agreed, tena. And, may i add, i would LOVE to see the regimen of drugs the White House physician is dosing him with.......
That's the truth. I've never seen anyone as fucked up as he is. He was coherent once upon a time. He is just totally fucked up now.
Hey, boldtroll,
Blow me!
You know ... again.
WAY TO GO, DEMOCRATS!~
noshirt™© | 12.23.06 - 2:57 pm | #
You're new around here, so you have no idea just how close you are to getting acquainted with a certain obsolete but still beloved catchphrase.
Hell, my testicles haven't even descended yet.
steve simels
No wonder you can't give it away on 7th Avenue.
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Tena: LarryElvis is gorgeous. How's he feeling? He had a cold or what? I missed some of that, I just see comments that say people hope he feels better.
Yeah, probably a cold virus, but bad, and likely a secondary bacterial infection, which may be a result of the deep scratch through his nose leather he received at Nashville Humane before becoming a Prestonian.
He's feeling better today, I can tell. Eating like a li'l machine, he is! Taking his medicine, no worries. 1ml every 12 hrs., right on schedule... and he got a hip full of amox yesterday morning, too. Had a fever of 104.7 (101.5 is norm).
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You're new around here, so you have no idea just how close you are to getting acquainted with a certain obsolete but still beloved catchphrase.
Yea! The catchphrase! Give it to 'em! Give 'em the catchphrase!
71% of the American people want this war ended.
That announcement was made, loud and clear, on November 7.
Unfortunately, the idiot in the WH and his minions are determined to do what THEY want, the American AND Iraqi people be damned.
(101.5 is norm).
Feels warmer when you are trapped under one of the boneless wonders.
smitty w, i8neweschaton:
Great minds think alike...
the abominable war is, however, the centerpiece among the apparati of distraction designed to conceal the extent of the mal- and misfeasance in the domestic sphere--the gutting of regulatory legislation, the disemboweling of the regulatory apparati, the planting of hostile administrators in key places in the bureaucracy, the continued consolidation of the media, etc--perpetrated by the Busheviks in the pursuit of their ultimate objective: the destruction of the confidence of the People in the institutions and instruments of their own, democratic self-governance.
that, my friends, is an 85-word sentence...in case you dint notice
just sayin'
smitty w: You took your cat to the vet ... for a cold?
Dude, the kitty was blowin' snot bubbles, okay? He was miserable.
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smitty w, i8neweschaton:
Great minds think alike...
steve simels
Inspired by your example, master.
You're new around here,
That I wouldn't bet on.
Right, fy?
He's feeling better today, I can tell. Eating like a li'l machine, he is! Taking his medicine, no worries. 1ml every 12 hrs., right on schedule... and he got a hip full of amox yesterday morning, too. Had a fever of 104.7 (101.5 is norm)
If he's eating well, then I am not worried. Cats will not eat when they are really sick.
At least, that's been my experience. I'm sure sorry, but I'm sure glad he's better. He really is beautiful.
71% of the American people want this war ended.
It would only take 1% of that number to storm the White House and remove the Terrorist in Chief.
What are you waiting for, America?
WAY TO GO, DEMOCRATS!~
noBRAIN | 12.23.06 - 2:57 pm | #
Fixed your typo
Dude, the kitty was blowin' snot bubbles, okay? He was miserable.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
I think it was an attention-getting stunt.
You know cats .... 
That announcement was made, loud and clear, on November 7.
Unfortunately, the idiot in the WH and his minions are determined to do what THEY want, the American AND Iraqi people be damned.
Alas, the "get out now!" vote was just the American Citizens. The Campaign Contributors, the class that the US gubmint actually represents, has not yet decided to remove the Decider.
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It would only take 1% of that number to storm the White House and remove the Terrorist in Chief.
What are you waiting for, America?
?
For YOU to come join us in the real world.
"make sure you put a stake through it's heart, decapitate it, and stuff it's mouth with garlic before sewing it shut."
decapitation and fire also work
Dude, the kitty was blowin' snot bubbles, okay? He was miserable.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Unfortunately, cats and respiratory problems seem to go together like ham and eggs.
Great questions from the estimable Richard Miniter:
What was in the ten to twenty pages of notes Berger is believed to have taken out of the reviewing room against regulations during his first session?
Who was the person or persons Berger contacted during the numerous “private cell phone calls” he was allowed to make during his active review of the classified documents?
Exactly what was in the documents Berger stole from the archives, some of which he has confessed to destroying?
Who was Berger looking to protect from the 9/11 Commission’s inquiry? Was it just himself and his role in our National Security in the Clinton years? Or were there others that the documents would either embarrass or implicate?
I just read Kevin's post. Good grief, is he ever fucking wrong.
They'll never admit they were wrong, and the country won't learn a fucking thing from this.
They'll continue to blame us no matter what happens.
Unfortunately, cats and respiratory problems seem to go together like ham and eggs.
Terry C
Mine's 16, all he ever gets is hairballs.
Dude, the kitty was blowin' snot bubbles, okay
Y'all was having a party?
71% of the American people want this war ended.
That announcement was made, loud and clear, on November 7.
This is where I derive a great deal of hope - the majority against this war keeps growing and I don't see an end to that, with casualties as high as they are now. Eventually, something has to give. Really it does.
Repugs in Congress cannot afford to let this continue like this if they want to keep their jobs. And they do. I don't know that they are going to be able to keep their jobs, but they are going to try. Two have stood up and made very strong statements against the war and against this new deployment. I suspect more are going to, if things don't change.
Terry, i gotta disagree...
they don't want the ICORP to 'end.' they want it fixed...they want to win it. if 'we' were winning, or if the People even thought 'we' were winning, it wouldn't matter to them the price or the cost...
You see, Bold Troll, you have to choose:
Either you support the Democratic Party 100% or you are a "troll".
You're either for the Democrats or the GOP.
One or the other.
Those are the rules.
So...
Vote for Lieberman when we tell you to,
vote for Skull & Bones when we tell you to,
and you better fucking vote for Hillary when we tell you to.
Otherwise, we will call you a "troll."
Those are the rules!
George sometimes coughs and Heidi swallows her purrs so she sounds like she is hiccuping, usually this means she is getting extra silly and starts to nibble your fingers.
smitty w: You took your cat to the vet ... for a cold?
Dude, the kitty was blowin' snot bubbles, okay? He was miserable.
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You did the right thing. Poor little guy.
JP - I adopted my kitty from a private shelter run by an animal hospital. Very very nice place - expensive. But my kitty had an eye inflammation and the sniffles when I brought him home. I had to take him back up there every day for 2 weeks until he got over it.
Hell, my testicles haven't even descended yet.
steve simels
More info than I needed.
{{{{{{smooch}}}}}}}}}
The mouthbreathers are STILL yammering about Sandy Berger?
father's keep having to bury sons so the dinner party set in DC can "save face" F Brookings, TNR and DLC for getting liberal billing on talk shows
"They'll continue to blame us no matter what happens."
See the post above yours. Bush can ignore a briefing saying Bin laden determined to strike inside the us, clinton can bomb the terrist bases and bush kept us safe while clinton was just wagging the dog. My mind would fucking explode if i tried to think like this.
Who was Berger looking to protect from the 9/11 Commission’s inquiry? Was it just himself and his role in our National Security in the Clinton years? Or were there others that the documents would either embarrass or implicate?
liberal jeenyus | 12.23.06 - 3:07 pm | #
But more importantly, why won't Sandy Berger admit what every other sentient being already knows -- that the primary source of power in the known universe is the sheer magnificence of scrotum?
I mean, why wont he?
George sometimes coughs and Heidi swallows her purrs so she sounds like she is hiccuping, usually this means she is getting extra silly and starts to nibble your fingers.
Moonbootica
My kitty has the funniest sounding hiccups I've ever heard - he sounds like a squeaky toy when he hiccups.
The mouthbreathers are STILL yammering about Sandy Berger?
I wasn't aware Berger was responsible for lying the US into a war that has killed hundreds of thousands. Nevermind.
Smitty, cats for the most part don't get colds. When they get the sniffles it is usually something bad. I was quite worried there for a bit.
Smitty, cats for the most part don't get colds. When they get the sniffles it is usually something bad. I was quite worried there for a bit.
The mouthbreathers are STILL yammering about Sandy Berger?
Psst ... did you know he stole some documents by smuggling them in his underpants?
The mouthbreathers are STILL yammering about Sandy Berger?
What the fuck - what is such a big deal? Well, I have the answer - nothing. It's just all they've got.
They ain't got nothing else to bitch about, so they're dragging poor old Berger back out.
Big fucking deal. My heart won't break if Berger goes to jail for it. I don't know why they keep talking about it, except it's all they have.
Gah, I can't believe I woke up to read such nonsense from Kevin Drum.
His argument is basically, "let them have their toys, because if we don't they'll just bitch for years and we'll have to listen to them."
It's akin to giving a 19 year old the keys to the Ferrari so that when he drives it off the cliff, everyone can learn a lesson about not giving 19 year olds Ferraris to drive.
Repugs in Congress cannot afford to let this continue like this if they want to keep their jobs.
Neither can the Dems.
Smitty, cats for the most part don't get colds. When they get the sniffles it is usually something bad. I was quite worried there for a bit.
ql in ny
I guess I've usually ignored it when I've had cats.
I'm a bad cat owner.
Big fucking deal. My heart won't break if Berger goes to jail for it. I don't know why they keep talking about it, except it's all they have.
They're saying he stole his OWN notes.
It's complete bullshit. Ignore them.
Terry C: Unfortunately, cats and respiratory problems seem to go together like ham and eggs.
So I've heard -- but Curly's never had more than a minor cold in his eye. He was healthy even after spending months in the can.
I wanted the vet to rule out any serious illness, and try to treat the symptoms, if nothing else -- I know there's sweet FA they can do about a viral infection but let it run its course.
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Neither can the Dems.
HoneyBearKelly?
I agree. If I didn't say that already, and I did on some thread this morning, I meant to.
I guess I've usually ignored it when I've had cats.
I'm a bad cat owner.
You can usually tell when it's bad enough to need a vet visit. Since Maxx has cancer, I'm a little more cautious- the least sign of any complaint and he's at the clinic.
My heart won't break if Berger goes to jail for it.
He's already been sentenced. $50K and no looky at the secret documents for 3 years. Pathetic really to worry about something so minor.
I wasn't aware Berger was responsible for lying the US into a war that has killed hundreds of thousands. Nevermind.
tbsa-buhbye republikkkans |
..that's cuz Berger destroyed the documents that demonstrate this...duh..
I guess I've usually ignored it when I've had cats.
I'm a bad cat owner.
smitty w,
I ignore it too, when my cats don't feel well, unless it goes on and on. I was concerned when I brought my kitty home and he wasn't completely well because there are bad things that it can be. I didn't want to adopt a cat who had something bad wrong.
He didn't. And cats are great at healing themselves most of the time. Most of the time I leave them alone when they don't feel good.
Sandy Berger is connected, in some way, to......
THE CLENIS!!!! [insert riff of dramatic music]
so, you see, by pundit logic of ruthless, almost geometrical precision, Sandy Berger being tried means the THE CLENIS!!!! [insert riff of dramatic music] is behind all the problems in Iraq, the drowning of New Orleans, the drop in the housing market, the crabgrass in the lawn, the bones in your fish fillets, all of it.
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The mouthbreathers are STILL yammering about Sandy Berger?
Psst ... did you know he stole some documents by smuggling them in his underpants?
smitty w, i8neweschaton
Yeah?
Well, whoopty shit!
Darn, gotta run for a while.
Wang Chung in my absence, and I hope to talk with you all later on....
It's complete bullshit. Ignore them.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
It IS all they have.
Pathetic, really.
For the record, Berger destroyed 5 copies of notes on the Millineum plot. There were no documents; it was just one document.
..that's cuz Berger destroyed the documents that demonstrate this...duh..
liberal jeenyus | 12.23.06 - 3:17 pm | #
Comedy gold.
Dude, the kitty was blowin' snot bubbles, okay? He was miserable.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You did the right thing. Poor little guy.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse - 3:09 pm
those symptoms could indicate feline distemper...
good to check it out...
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I'm gonna try selling the scooter tomorrow, JeebusEve. I'll print a snot bubble photo of LarryElvis, give my hard-luck-turned-to-riches-of-comedy patter, and have 25% profit on it, I bet. I'll hang out in Belle Meade with a cardboard sign...
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I'm gonna try selling the scooter tomorrow, JeebusEve. I'll print a snot bubble photo of LarryElvis, give my hard-luck-turned-to-riches-of-comedy patter, and have 25% profit on it, I bet. I'll hang out in Belle Meade with a cardboard sign...
Ok, now I'm confused. How come you're going to sell it?
Ack! How come!? Ack!
Well, I just don't screw around with a new kitty who's so obviously miserable. Yeah, it took $88 I really didn't have to make it happen, but... I'll sell that electric scooter for $200+, and life will be very good until 1/5... payday!
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Ha ha ha. . .aren’t lesbian exhibitionism and titty-flashing part of a beauty queen’s duties? This is absurd. . .stripping a de facto stripper of her *crown* for stripping?
And the pseudo-lesbianism? Isn’t one of the highlights of all of these televised beauty contests the little segment when they show all the girls having fun together, how much they love each other? They show a dozen of these barely legals crowded into a hotel room, giggling in their pajamas and painting each other’s toenails. . .then we all imagine what cums next.
Poor Katie Rees can strut around semi-nude in front of an auditorium full of leering men, and as long as you have 10 or 12 people judging her like she’s some livestock at a county fair, that’s OK. . .but if she does it at a party, somehow the *integrity* of the Miss Universe Organization is tainted?
Ha ha ha. . .only in the Dissociated States of Amerika could this be possible. . .only in the Dissociated States of Amerika could you have an event in which you parade around a young woman like a $2000-a-night whore, and then call it *wholesome* and *character-building.*
Look, Van Nuys, CA is the USA’s cultural center. . .because of Media’s hyper-sexualizing of the culture, pornography is now the Highest Form of Expression. . .and the timid masses engage in their own kind of childish pretend porn. . .the MySpaces, FaceBooks, LiveJournals, etc., are nothing but finger-paint porn, kindergarten level self-smut.
The average Amerikan slob lives in a constant state of sexual arousal, which he or she views as the sum of all possible human achievement. . .some of these idiots, imagining themselves as glory hole Gautamas, sit nude and alone in front of a tiny computer *cam* and shout into the electronic ethersphere: “Look at me! I’m fucking myself!! Somebody, anyone, please, look at me!! I’m masturbating! I’ve mastered the Noble 8 Fold Path and have attained enlightenment!!”
Of course, there’s no reason to simulate sympathy for Katie Rees. . .this *scandal* is a blessing from her god. With Media currency backed by the porn standard, Katie’s *star* value has now skyrocketed. Nobody knew who she was yesterday. She was just another piece of meat, shopping her titties (like they were résumés) from one party to the next, desperately hoping to find someone who would exploit her. . .and now she’s a genuine *Girl Gone Wild* and
Off topic, but the members of the Parents Television Council are in dire need of lives:
http://www.comcast.net/entertain...ml&
cvqh=itn_snl
Yeah, why are you selling the scooter? isn't that your only means of transportation?
Afternoon, bats.
How goes the Glorious Revolution?
I see Bob Gates had to turn in his report on Iraq today ...
OOPS!
Not the Chinese Death Machine, guys.
The stand-up electric I won on eBay the DAY before the CDM showed up in my life.
New-In-Box. Never ridden. Free helmet!
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Or is this a different scooter?
You can usually tell when it's bad enough to need a vet visit. Since Maxx has cancer, I'm a little more cautious- the least sign of any complaint and he's at the clinic.
fourlegsgood,
Well of course you do. His immune system is probably compromised by the cancer (that I'd give anything in the world to make go away. Anything.)
Lots of love to you and Maxx, always always, fourlegsgood.
New-In-Box. Never ridden. Free helmet!
Oh, I see.
"This is a new low for NBC," PTC President Brent Bozell said in a statement. "Clearly, the network will stop at nothing to find loopholes for its indecent programming to reach the public."
Typical Bozo: "Anything to do with sex or the human body bad; war, sexism, racism homophobia all good."
Hey, if you're mechanical, have a few tools, and are willing to hang out in Belle Meade on xmas Eve - guy i knew years ago wanted some New Years drinking money, so a week before Xmas he plastered Belle Meade with signs for "Christmas Eve Toy Assembler" - would come to the house, put 'em together, charge you. IIRC, he got many calls, worked until 0300, took something like $5-$10/toy, and had beer money into the end of Feb.
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Not the Chinese Death Machine, guys.
The stand-up electric I won on eBay the DAY before the CDM showed up in my life.
New-In-Box. Never ridden. Free helmet!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Well fuck me silly - I didn't know you'd won one. You really have hit the lucky streak! Good on you!!
Poor Katie Rees can strut around semi-nude in front of an auditorium full of leering men, and as long as you have 10 or 12 people judging her like she’s some livestock at a county fair, that’s OK
For the record, Jeffraham, Katie Rees was Miss Nevada until they stripped her.
Well of course you do. His immune system is probably compromised by the cancer (that I'd give anything in the world to make go away. Anything.)
Yeah, me too. He's doing surprisingly well considering.
Still eating like a horse and no longer sleeping in the closet.
For the record, Jeffraham, Katie Rees was Miss Nevada until they stripped her.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
For something she did when she was 17, IIRC.
FIVE YEARS AGO.
Off topic, but the members of the Parents Television Council are in dire need of lives:
Like it or not, their numbers apparently make them a goddamn force. The only way to counteract that is to form a group of equal number to go up against Bozell.
Problem there is that most liberals don't give that much of a shit about TV, especially network TV, beyond the news shoes.
Cynicus: Hey, if you're mechanical, have a few tools, and are willing to hang out in Belle Meade on xmas Eve - guy i knew years ago wanted some New Years drinking money, so a week before Xmas he plastered Belle Meade with signs for "Christmas Eve Toy Assembler" - would come to the house, put 'em together, charge you. IIRC, he got many calls, worked until 0300, took something like $5-$10/toy, and had beer money into the end of Feb.
I have several $79 "new PC set-up and instruction" gigs scheduled. One for tomorrow, but I'm taking a check on that one. Can't get cash for it 'til Tuesday, but I have a lot of that $50 from the HDD install I did for Evan.
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For the record, Jeffraham, Katie Rees was Miss Nevada until they stripped her.
Snow, Ordinary Thinker
Miss Nevada with old photos bad. Miss USA in rehab, priceless.
Problem there is that most liberals don't give that much of a shit about TV, especially network TV, beyond the news shoes.
Tena
You're 100% right about that.
I got sick and tired of everything being "dumbed down" years ago.
For something she did when she was 17, IIRC.
FIVE YEARS AGO.
So? the Clenis is responsible for the fucked economy and the fucked Iraq war SIX YEARS AFTER LEAVING OFFICE.
just ask the trolls.
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But Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., outgoing chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, said he's not convinced that the Archives can account for all the documents taken by Berger. Davis said working papers of National Security Council staff members are not inventoried by the Archives.
Still eating like a horse and no longer sleeping in the closet.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
It's all that love. No matter what, fourlegs, you will always know that Maxx has had a life of love since you adopted him. Lots of it. That's a lovely lovely thing that you've given him.
I'm so glad he's feeling good. I wish I could tell you both how much this matters to me. It really does. Damn you both - you wormed your way into my heart!
I have several $79 "new PC set-up and instruction" gigs scheduled.
Well, that's good.
I take it the fuckwits now believe that if they post in all caps or all bold or both it will make what they say true and/or not insane.
They're wrong of course, but then, Atrios does have the stupidest trolls in the universe.
Michael Nifong is a Democrat...
.......surprised?...
drum is an idiot. i hate to say that about a person who is so pleasant, but i honestly think he's enjoys being shat upon so he can still remain 'civil' and 'moderate'. it's his siganture personality trait.
Drum is not an idiot. Drum is a man who looks in the mirror every morning and says to himself 'Thomas Friedman-Richard Cohen-Juan-Williams can't live forever'.
That degree of calculation rules out 'idiot'.
Tena: I didn't know you'd won one. You really have hit the lucky streak! Good on you!!
Well, won as in "was high bidder." It was a one-price, BuyItNow item @ $184.99 (not bad for a BladeZ E Lite 500w scooter that will hold a 200lb. adult). Range of ~10 mi., top speed of 12mph. No license or registration req'd, and most cops will be okay with sidewalk use, at least here in TN.
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I'm so glad he's feeling good. I wish I could tell you both how much this matters to me. It really does. Damn you both - you wormed your way into my heart!
In spite of my annoying ways?
He's a sweetie though. I'm lucky to have had him at all.
With Media currency backed by the porn standard, Katie’s *star* value has now skyrocketed. Nobody knew who she was yesterday. She was just another piece of meat, shopping her titties (like they were résumés) from one party to the next, desperately hoping to find someone who would exploit her. . .
James Jesus Rimbaud
See: Williams, Vanessa
"news shoes"
What kind of Freudian slip was that, I wonder? I am not thinking about shoes, have more than I need and have bought new ones recently.
huh.
Miss Nevada with old photos bad. Miss USA in rehab, priceless.
Trump sending her to rehab was stupid.
She's been partying like any other 20 year old enjoying their first time living in the big city.
For fuck's sake.
Has anyone remarked upon the interesting coincidence of the opening, in the same week, of provocatively titled The Good Shepard and The Good German?
Nifong is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
lying jerkoff
catch you all laters
In spite of my annoying ways?
He's a sweetie though. I'm lucky to have had him at all.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
You are not as annoying as I am, so I more than cancel you out.
"news shoes"
When I read that, Ed Sullivan immediately came to mind.
Leave Kevin Drum alone.
You are not as annoying as I am, so I more than cancel you out.
Damn. I'll have to try harder.
Here's how the Democrats should frame this:
"Is preserving the ego of George W. Bush worth the life of your son or daughter?"
It's that fucking simple. This is all about Lil' Boots precious fucking ego.
Fuck him. Fuck his father, his mother, all his siblings.
Trump sending her to rehab was stupid.
She's been partying like any other 20 year old enjoying their first time living in the big city.
For fuck's sake.
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
I agree with Rosie. Trump's a bloody hypocrite.
>o?You are not as annoying as I am, so I more than cancel you out.
Damn. I'll have to try harder.
fourlegsgood
Oh yeah. I'll can take you both.
Breaking news: I ate a burger.
Really though, Drum's post has irritated the hell out of me.
What retarded thinking. "Oh, just give them what they want so that they can't bitch." What the fuck is wrong with him. People are dying over there.
Drum is not an idiot. Drum is a man who looks in the mirror every morning and says to himself 'Thomas Friedman-Richard Cohen-Juan-Williams can't live forever'.
That degree of calculation rules out 'idiot'.
Davis X. Machina - 3:31 pm
fucking GENAU, brudda...he's situating himself to become the NEXT gutless, unprincipled 'centrist' pundit, in complete cognizance of his actions...
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Of course Trump is a hypocrite. He's a basic waste of oxygen. But this whole Miss USA thing is all about the publicity.
That's all that Trump is about -PR. That's pretty much how he stays where he is, and that's pretty much how he got there.
I agree with Rosie. Trump's a bloody hypocrite.
And an annoying pig. And a jackass.
Lloyd Blankefein, the parasite who geve himself a $53 million dollar bonus, is a Democrat..
....surprised?..
Drum is not an idiot. Drum is a man who looks in the mirror every morning and says to himself 'Thomas Friedman-Richard Cohen-Juan-Williams can't live forever'.
That degree of calculation rules out 'idiot'.
Davis X. Machina - 3:31 pm
fucking GENAU, brudda...he's situating himself to become the NEXT gutless, unprincipled 'centrist' pundit, in complete cognizance of his actions..
By god, I think y'all have it. He wants that MSM position.
He sure does. He and Josh Marshall.
That's all that Trump is about -PR. That's pretty much how he stays where he is, and that's pretty much how he got there.
Tena
No argument there.
A legend in his own mind.
I agree with Rosie. Trump's a bloody hypocrite.
Terry C, Gore /Clark 08 - 3:36 pm
especially since he was either trying to fuck her and she refused him, or got pissed off when she laughed at his two-inch dick......
Has anyone remarked upon the interesting coincidence of the opening, in the same week, of provocatively titled The Good Shepard and The Good German?
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar | Homepage | 12.23.06 - 3:34 pm | #
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Ha ha ha...the composite characterization that Matt Damon plays is, of course, mostly based on the life of James Jesus Angleton. Now James Jesus knew a few things about using the Nazis as asset, and as further evidence of his bipolarity, also held sole proprietorship over the Israeli 'account' - the Israelis even have a statue of him...ha ha ha. Of course, this was a delicate balance to maintain, which explaines why James Jesus went mad, and why the CIA to this day remains the most dysfunctional of institutions.
People are dying over there.
So long as it isn't the whores dying, or anyone they know or are related to they don't give a rats ass about who's dying.
"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed."
-Stephen Biko
especially since he was either trying to fuck her and she refused him, or got pissed off when she laughed at his two-inch dick......
The Donald tried to fuck Rosie?
Leave Kevin Drum alone.
mars | 12.23.06 - 3:35 pm
happily, if he'd just shut the fuck up...
drum is a wanker.
http://www.comcast.net/news/inde...l&
cvqh=itn_iran
I agree with the one dude - why IS Israel allowed to get away with everything and anything?
Oh, I've gots me a damp lion kitty in my lap.
What retarded thinking. "Oh, just give them what they want so that they can't bitch." What the fuck is wrong with him. People are dying over there.
Ah, but not "real people". Real people went to the right schools, work inside the Beltway, meet & greet at the right parties, run America, and the world by proxy. Those are the "real people", and they aren't dying. His insider chances with them could be dying, so he will fight for that.
As WGG said, there are a LOT of ppl who would love to be a pundit - max publicity and million$ for absolutely nothing but a willingness to be completely obedient and write 3-4 talking points/week.
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drum is a wanker.
Olaf, the other reindeer
That about sums it up.
dhe's situating himself to become the NEXT gutless, unprincipled 'centrist' pundit, in complete cognizance of his actions...
Michael Lind, in reverse.
C'mon, Gnashvegas! You know you want it!
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Oh, I've gots me a damp lion kitty in my lap.
(biting tongue)
I agree with Rosie. Trump's a bloody hypocrite.
Terry C, Gore /Clark 08 - 3:36 pm
especially since he was either trying to fuck her and she refused him, or got pissed off when she laughed at his two-inch dick......
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
I'm sure he doesn't believe for a minute that the current wife is with him just for his...eh, personal charm?
The Donald tried to fuck Rosie?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse - 3:40 pm
problematic pronoun anaphorae...i was referring to the beauty queen whom the Donald forced into therapy for rejecting (or alternatively insulting) him for his comb-over...
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"news shoes"
When I read that, Ed Sullivan immediately came to mind.
Terry C,
and that didn't even occur to me. I love people - we're all so different and so crazy.
Drum wants to be the next Chris Matthews.
I'm sure he doesn't believe for a minute that the current wife is with him just for his...eh, personal charm?
Terry C, Gore /Clark 08
How the woman can keep-from regurgitating every time he touches her will always be a mystery to me.
The bug-eyed idiot (999,979) thinks she's being coronated..
...she's having a four day, multi-million dollar party for herself..
...couldn't some of that money have gone to helping the poor at Christmas...
...oh that's right...it's been proven that Democrats don't do that...
..this is her "let them eat cake" moment...her first one, anyway
problematic pronoun anaphorae...i was referring to the beauty queen whom the Donald forced into therapy for rejecting (or alternatively insulting) him for his comb-over...
You shame me. i had been assuming that she was "in therapy" and not "title stripped, and fired" BECAUSE she knelt under the desk.
i am a bad person.
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problematic pronoun anaphorae...i was referring to the beauty queen whom the Donald forced into therapy for rejecting (or alternatively insulting) him for his comb-over...
I was just joking with you.
I thought Trump's assertion that he could "steal Rosie's girlfriend" if he wanted to be most hilarious.
He's really a nasty little git.
Dubbya’s got the Urge to Merge with a Surge,
DavidE -
problematic pronoun anaphorae...i was referring to the beauty queen whom the Donald forced into therapy for rejecting (or alternatively insulting) him for his comb-over...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
The Donald was just pissed off because he wanted to WATCH Miss USA get it on with the other women.
How the woman can keep-from regurgitating every time he touches her will always be a mystery to me.
tbsa-buhbye republikkkans
She closes her eyes and thinks about dollar bills. That's the only way I can fathom it at all, and there isn't enough money to cause me to change places with her.
It's so tiresome when the kids are out of school. Can't they go play on the freeway or something?
Jesus of Nazareth resurrected Lazarus from the dead. Thousands were witness to this miracle.
there isn't enough money to cause me to change places with her.
Tena
WORD!
Lazarus was still wearing his grave-clothes when Jesus brought him back.
Jesus of Nazareth resurrected Lazarus from the dead. Thousands were witness to this miracle.
And John wrote about it 110-120 years later, as an eyewitness. Another miracle!
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I wonder how those troops who said, "we need reinforcements!" are going to feel when they find out the "surge" means they get to stay longer and then come back again sooner?
her first one, anyway
I neglected to thank you, today, for 11/7/2006, you dumb motherfucker.
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Have all the good trolls been fished out? All that's left are the guppies and tadpoles.
Oh sweet gibbering Jeebus, these people are stupid...
Remember that Repub that tried to have his GPA hacked upward.....
the emails
Pigeons? rot-26? Ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
And John wrote about it 110-120 years later, as an eyewitness. Another miracle!
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Cynicus
[falls off chair]
I wonder how those troops who said, "we need reinforcements!" are going to feel when they find out the "surge" means they get to stay longer and then come back again sooner?
fourlegsgood, plushynurse
Wondered the same thing earlier upthread.
liberal jeenyus raised his girlfriend from the dead. All that required was a tire patch and an air pump, though.
Remember that Repub that tried to have his GPA hacked upward.....
the emails
Pigeons? rot-26? Ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
JR,
He solicited the hacker through email? Email???
Just how fucking stupid is this guy?
fresh sheets
Really though, Drum's post has irritated the hell out of me.
What retarded thinking. "Oh, just give them what they want so that they can't bitch." What the fuck is wrong with him. People are dying over there.
fourlegsgood
Totally agree 4LG, but I think his thinking is more along the lines of "let them blow more air into the balloon until it bursts, then everyone will know they were wrong." Unfortunately, as Atrios points out, that is not how it works. What we will find is that they were really blowing air on the fire, just making it hotter and more difficult to extinguish.
Just how fucking stupid is this guy?
Tena
Incredibly.
Mr. Ehrenstein, Long time no see. Hope everything is going well.
Um, if I'm correct, a dirty fucking hippy from San Fran is in charge of the House.
And, well, an ethically challenged pro-gun anti-abortion Mormon is gonna be in charge of the Senate. But he does have a D after his name!
Check this excellent anti-war video;
Guernica Iraq;
http://911blogger.com/node/5219
Fucking Kevin Drum, he'll never learn. I gave up on him long time ago now.
Really, his biggest problem is he's just a kid, a nice college guy, but still a kid, and still in thrall to a lot of media generated pablum.
"a plan to help people to where they feel safer within the country."
Right. Maybe somewhere's the broken syntax won't get 'em.
I will be attending War-On-Christmas services at the New Church of the Dirty Fucking Hippy.
Wooo Hooo.
The real target in this war has always been the dirty hippies. Bush's foreign policy is domestic politics by another means. Beat the anti-war movement and everything is possible - leave them in place and they will stop everything. And Kevin is on the front line of that real battle - on the other side.
He misses the big picture. No matter what happens, Conservatives will never learn, and will always make excuses. They will think of something to blame for our failure in Iraq, like the media, or Cindy Sheehan, or video games, or gay marriage. They are incapable of learning or admiting they are wrong.
If you don't believe me, go to http://www.foxxynews.com
Um, if I'm correct, a dirty fucking hippy from San Fran is in charge of the House.
And, well, an ethically challenged pro-gun anti-abortion Mormon is gonna be in charge of the Senate. But he does have a D after his name!
Sigh....
And increasingly desperate right wing trolls turn up on this blog.
Talk about retarded thinking.
drum is a closet neocon. his latest is perfectly consistent with his original support for the invasion. drum is a PRETEND left-leaning nice-guy. But its a completely phoney act because on everything that matters he's right there with the wack-pack.
Drum is essentially a plant that undermines left positions.
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caught a couple of specials on the vietnam era. it wasn't hippies who failed to welcome home returning vets. it wasn't hippies who failed to acknowledge their service.
caught a couple of specials on the vietnam era. it wasn't hippies who failed to welcome home returning vets. it wasn't hippies who failed to acknowledge their service.
jello
For years, the VFW crowd treated Viet Nam vets like shit.
They "didn't win", you know.
I haven't read Kevin's piece, but then I never do.
The problem is this stupid immoral game-playing. If you raise the number of troops, more men and women die for nothing. That's the bottom line. If you call for more troops, you're a goddamn murderer.
I fail to see how the "dirty fucking hippies" can possibly ever be proven right with so many variables that inevitably occur during the fog of war, (i forgot Atrios the Economist is a genius), but i digress.
The reason that "the dirty fucking hippies" will never be put in charge is because you dirty fucking hippies fail to see any danger whatsover that could occur if we leave Iraq. Atrios apparently believes that leaving Iraq will help him find his pony; but if the cost of finding Atrios' pony is an Iranian dominated puppet state, or a giant training camp for Al Qaeda then the result of finding this pony will be a historic defeat that will make Vietnamn look like a preseason game, and this look like the super bowl.
Dear Friends-
Empire is the problem and the choice between liberal imperialists and conservative ones is a false choice.
We need an anti-imperialist party that would embrace right and left anti-imperialists from Pat Buchanan to
Noam Chomsky.
That would save the world and then we would have the leisure to
squabble over the details.
With this September 'deadline' the Dems are being offered some candy prior to a political rape. The Dems are going to be deemed as completely powerless when yet again the Republicans nix any change of course.
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