I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
First, damnit!
And second maybe?
Is he safe at third?
Home!
Hi Supreme Commander Thor
one correction, atrios.... the proper description of the opposite of isolationism is the love of blowing OTHER PEOPLE'S shit up.
please don't forget the "other people's"... cuz without it you get terrorism (that would be blowing OUR shit up).
Hi there
I'm pretty sure the Bush administration doesn't know what the word diplomacy means.
some people have to work around here!
Slate's slate is full of shite. Except Joe Conason.
[shakes fist, leaves to make gravy]
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Too many long words. Not gonna read it.
It's been funny watching Pat Buchanan's brain try to wrap around this dilemma, however.
With all due respect, I think The Worst Idea Ever was when Poppy and Bar decided to have sex that one time in the fall of '45.
Isolationism is just another word that used to mean something, and is now being used as a negative, to paint the GOP's opposition. Like 'liberal', 'fascist', etc, you could look up a Webster's definition, but the actual, "as-used today" definition is only "bad, bad thing". It's all in the innuendo.
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Not favorite senseless wars and supporting international institutions and collective security = Isolationist Left.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
The only thing more shocking than this constant stream of 1st Grade Logic is its constant acceptance as being "serious" argument.
favorite=favoring
My brain hurts...literally.
It's really hard to get hold of Isolationist ganja, I hear.
Oh please, could we have a pundit rating system?
If I can read Consumer Reports and know how well some $12 toaster works, couldn't someone do the same with the opinions and predictions of assorted political writers?
Their malformed opinions have cost tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars
I like toast but shouldn't tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars be worth more than knowing how to make proper toast?
Thank goodness Bush changed his mind about the US getting involved in nation-building.
*rolls eyes*
I like toast but shouldn't tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars be worth more than knowing how to make proper toast?
You could invent one.
My brain hurts...literally.
C'mere and I'll give you a scalp massage.
It's really hard to get hold of Isolationist ganja, I hear.
Molly Ivors
but once you get it the red stuff sticks like glue.
I propose the standard unit of pundit wrongness be termed the Goldberg.
If I remember correctly, the 2006 state of the union address was full of "warnings" about isolationism; admonitions to the American people to avoid becoming isolatioist. I also remember thinking, "What the fuck is he talking about?"
In a few minutes, color should come to the sky.
From today’s Washington Post story on Georgetown:
“Both sides have their mix,” said Frida Burling, 91, an east-side resident for more than 50 years. “We have Sen. [John] Kerry, Sen. [John] Edwards and Sen. [Max] Baucus on the west side.” (Edwards recently sold his Georgetown house.) “We have Ben Bradlee and Sally Quinn and Bob Woodward and people like that on the east side.”
Ah, yes. Georgetown has both kinds. Liberal Senators and liberal media.
It's really hard to get hold of Isolationist ganja, I hear.
Naw, just find a grower who has a delivery service. You'll never have to leave the house.
And they said Reagan was the teflon preznit...that makes Bush C-8?
I like toast but shouldn't tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars be worth more than knowing how to make proper toast?
You could invent one.
Molly Ivors
I'll put it on my list right after the five minute washer dryer that uses two cups of water and no soap.
When did the "isolationist Left" become some sort of important force in American politics, or some sort of named movement?
It never did, it was only made to appear that way by political manipulation.
The right never has understood the different "wings" of the left anymore than most people today understand classical liberalism. as opposed to New Deal liberalism, whence the Democratic and Libertarian parties are sourced. They believe what they want to, so someone has lied to them.
That's why they are the wise men.
I propose the standard unit of pundit wrongness be termed the Goldberg.
There are ten Goldbergs to a Bobo. And ten Bobos to a Malkin.
A Coulter, of course, is like a google--immeasurable.
...inferior rival Tonya Harding...
I dispute this; skating ability aside, Tonya's "hot little minx" quality far surpassed Kerrigan's two-dimensional Wonder Bread personality.
Cynicus, yes, and also it nearness to Islamist and Islamofascist
Um... I don't trust bacon that fries up the color of beef... you?
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I'm working on a list of the Ten Most Insufferble People in Public Life.
* Jon Meachem
* Tom Friedman
* George Will
* David Brooks
* Gregg Easterbrook
* Richard Cohen
* Malcolm Gladwell
Adding...
* Lord Weisberg
A Coulter, of course, is like a google--immeasurable.
Infinite wrongness.
A Coulter, of course, is like a google--immeasurable.
I think you could, but where would you find any one who was willing to?
If I remember correctly, the 2006 state of the union address was full of "warnings" about isolationism; admonitions to the American people to avoid becoming isolatioist. I also remember thinking, "What the fuck is he talking about?"
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thos also bears out the trade imbalance side of the problem.
Global investments and tariffs do not get along very well.
words ...the socalled pundits SCP...
love their massive word -throw up dont they
it all means nothing
just SOUND AND FURY signifying...poop
It's part of the perversion of WWII, I think. Take little bits and pieces of information that is unattached to context, stretch it and bend it to fit whatever most seems to indicate extreme cleverness and scholarship (these clowns always want to move from buffery to scholarship without, you know, actually doing any scholarly stuff) and voila! You have applied the misunderstood nature of US interwar isolationism to a despised group who are turning out to be right. This way you can make them wrong even so - and it's all good for the Republicans.....
Anybody got a good receipt for green chile stew? Woody, can you go over to Duran's and ask them?
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Kerrigan's two-dimensional Wonder Bread personality.
Little Brøther
She had far less appeal than Wonder Bread.
Let's not forget the way Bush Sr. was slimed by Pat Robertson and others for "The New World Order." I think the opposite of Bush Jr's we're-the-only-superpower-at-least-until-China-
gets-its-act-together-so-we-might-as-well-bear-
our-burden (and please do recall what a psychic burden it is to try and enjoy getting fat and watching the NFL playoffs while the rest of the planet goes to Hell) is one world government. So, maybe Bush Jr. is doing us all a favor by accelerating the end of the notion of American exceptionalism and our obviously better judeo-christian values.
I thought Conason wrote for Salon.
Stop dropping the brown acid you dirty fucking hippies!
Brown acid = coffee?
If I remember correctly, the 2006 state of the union address was full of "warnings" about isolationism; admonitions to the American people to avoid becoming isolatioist.
Hmm, well, consider that the original "isolationist" political movement in America was called America First.
Can you imagine how utterly dammed inconvenient for Bushco it would be for Americans to demand that the efforts of government be designed to benefit America first?
No shit W. is howling "Noooo! Noo isolationism!"
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A Coulter, of course, is like a google--immeasurable.
Molly Ivors
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Coulter is rather like the immeasurable goddess of the Hannitites
I thought Conason wrote for Salon.
Culture of TrÜth
Still does.
They are not "silly"; they are dangerous scum. Witness Iraq and the damage done to the US and the world. Not only has the damage they have done been munumental; but they continue to incite against the antiwar left. These scum emulate the military aggression, torture, denial of civil liberties that the authoritarian regimes in the 30's perfected. Any chance of peace and multilateral internationalism depends on defeatingthese warhawks. That cannot be done if you keep referring to them as "silly", as if the consequences of their authoritarian ideology is not devastating.
Um... I don't trust bacon that fries up the color of beef... you?
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why do you NOT thrust bacon?
more birthday festivities here dearie!!!!
Can you imagine how utterly dammed inconvenient for Bushco it would be for Americans to demand that the efforts of government be designed to benefit America first?
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the nausea
the retch
SteveNS-- Upon reflection, you are correct, sir. I apologize to Interstate Baking Corporation.
the left was accused of isolationism for opposing wilson's war--wwi--and many leftists were accused of--and no samall number were imprisoned for--sedition, and even treason, for their stance...
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It's all a very simple equation, really. Wanting to invade other countries while dismantling the UN makes one a proponent of engagement. On the other hand, wanting not to go to war with other countries unless first actually attacked while wanting to engage in multilateral diplomacy makes one an isolationist.
I hope this clears up any misconceptions.
Insufferable is pomposity, self-righteousness, and condescension, hopefully with an affected accent or writing style.
Limbaugh is just hateful, Pat Robertson is a loon, and Tweety, is not isufferable, he's just off his meds.
That cannot be done if you keep referring to them as "silly", as if the consequences of their authoritarian ideology is not devastating.
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Some backgound:
silly is hippy-speak for all that you are feeling and then some.
Trust in bacon in the first step to redemption, saith the lard.
Seems like "Isolationist left" is corporate spin for anti-imperialist left.
I second Attaturk's emotion.
This makes my brain hurt real bad.
They are not "silly"; they are dangerous scum.
Certainly, but public mockery will disenfranchise the assholes, trying to engage them seriously only legitimizes them.
Iraq: no Navy, no Air Force. Could there be a riper target? If it weren't for the pesky insurgents, all would have been well.
The dangerous scum shoud be isolated -- quarentined like any deadly disease.
Hey, here's a great idea! Why didn't we think of it before?
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Iraq's prime minister said Saturday that Iraqi forces would launch a new effort -- with U.S. troops in a supporting role -- to wrest control of Baghdad's neighborhoods from militias and other sectarian killers.
Limbaugh is just hateful, Pat Robertson is a loon, and Tweety, is not isufferable, he's just off his meds.
Well, the model obviously needs to be conceived in three dimensions.
It's all a very simple equation, really. Wanting to invade other countries while dismantling the UN makes one a proponent of engagement. On the other hand, wanting not to go to war with other countries unless first actually attacked while wanting to engage in multilateral diplomacy makes one an isolationist.
I hope this clears up any misconceptions.
uh, that's really hard to follow.
how about: "If you want economic policies that benefit America, and no useless, unnecessary wars, you ara a dammed dirty isolationist. If you want economics that support wealth concentration in multinational corps, and wars of choice that ALSO concentrate weqlth in the hands of multinational corps, then you are for engagement".
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watertiger, you can have a scalp massage, too.
watertiger, you can have a scalp massage, too.
Thanks, chica.
"War Without End"
It's the fascist way. The opposite is "isolationism."
WaPo gets its hand on confidential 1,000 page report on Haditha massacre.
Wanna bet it doesn't make the U.S. look good?
Wanker.
I prefer "motherfucker."
Pronounced: "Mother. Fucker."
Anybody got a good receipt for green chile stew? Woody, can you go over to Duran's and ask them?
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Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
I'll second that request. I kind of feel a stew coming on myself....
OT, but I'm ruminating at my blog on a movie I saw this week, which I mostly liked, but there was a really weird edge to it which left a bad taste in my mouth. Reflections welcome.
Seems like "Isolationist left" is corporate spin for anti-imperialist left.
Jaded Prole - 10:35 am
see, e.g., the anti-imperialist league
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...time to fire up the Bonneville...I really feel it is my duty to shield the family from you leftards..
...I'm taking the camcorder...
Isolationist left? Read about the Vista NWO success story yet?
In order to appropriately protect content, Vista will probably have to disable
any special device features that it can't directly control.
Disable yourself, bitches, right-wing-whackos and other disabled mfs.
The answer to Lord Weisberg, as it is to all Iraq war dead-enders and apologists, is:
"You bought into a war based on the premise that, among other things, Saddam Hussein was Dr. Evil in an Austin Powers movie, and was preparing to pilot via remote-control model airplanes 6,000 miles across an ocean in order to spray our homes with anthrax. This is all that needs be said about your support for the clusterfuck that is the Iraq War, and the ultimate wisdom of it."
I must stand and radiate correctly.
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...time to fire up the Bonneville.....I'm taking the camcorder...
Makes sense to me. A Pontiac that actually starts, that should be recorded on tape for posterity....piece o' shite cars.....
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Guisado de Chile Verde (Green Chile Stew)
Yield: 6 servings : Cooking Time: Approximately 1 hour: Temperature: Medium, Low: Freezes Well
2 pounds pork or beef, cubed 3 cups tomatoes
1/4 cup flour 2 cups water
2 tablespoons shortening 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
2 large onions, chopped 2 teaspoons salt
3 cups chopped green chile
(A few new potatoes, peeled)
1. Dredge the meat in flour. Place the shortening in a heavy skillet and brown meat at medium heat. Place meat in a large stewing pot.
2. Sauté the onions in the remaining shortening and add to stewing pot.
3. Add all remaining ingredients to stewing pot and simmer at low heat for 1 hour.
Wanker.
I prefer "motherfucker."
Pronounced: "Mother. Fucker."
I prefer "ya'll's some dumbass motherfuckers."
People like Weisberg, Novak, etc. can never be convinced they are wrong about anything. It is their job to proclaim victory as the mortars pound the Reichstag. People like that can only be defeated and marginalized.
You know what pisses me off? Jacob Weisberg gets PAID to spout this drivel, and bloggers who have been right about this administration and this war from the get-go, and who possess far more talent (not to mention intelligence and analytical skills) get nothing.
Gah.
time to fire up the Bonneville...I really feel it is my duty to shield the family from you leftards
Try to be quiet about it. The two in the back seat are still sleeping.
green chile stew
2 pounds lean pork, cubed
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 large onion, chopped
2 cloves garlic, minced
6 to 8 green New Mexican chiles, roasted, peeled, stems removed, chopped (more, and hotter, to taste)
1 large potato, peeled and diced
2 tomatoes, peeled and chopped
3 to 4 cups water
1/4 teaspoon dried oregano, Mexican preferred
Place the pork in a skillet and brown it in the oil, remove the pork and place it in a kettle or stock pot.
Put the onions in the skillet, adding more oil if necessary, and sauté until they are browned.
Add the garlic and cook for an additional couple of minutes.
Remove them from the skillet and add to the pork.
Pour a little of the water into the skillet, bring to a boil, and deglaze.
Pour the liquid over the pork.
Add all the remaining ingredients, and simmer for 1 to 2 hours or until the meat is very tender and is starting to fall apart.
Makes sense to me. A Pontiac that actually starts, that should be recorded on tape for posterity....piece o' shite cars.....
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Cynicus
Look, it's not the car's fault that it's owned by a troll. Lay off.
some are into 'word roulette', just roll and toss, see what comes up and it may be a new idea. you never know.
what it does do, is keeps everybody busy, while you take off with the loot.
like the 'liberal media' or 'liberal press', yea, those are new ways of saying 'the free press'.
this is what you do when you have spare time, money and health. and you don't have to work 2-3 jobs,etc.
The wingnuts bitch about the ROE. If we were free to cut down every Iraqi in sight, the war would have ended years ago.
like that can only be covered in pig shit and chased out of town by rabid chihuahuas
Fixed that for you
You know what pisses me off? Jacob Weisberg gets PAID to spout this drivel, and bloggers who have been right about this administration and this war from the get-go, and who possess far more talent (not to mention intelligence and analytical skills) get nothing.
Precisely why the pundits howl so about "those dammed blogs". Better, more accurate & insightful comment, distributed FOR FREE (mostly - certainly cheaper than , say, a WSJ subscript).
You know what really scares them till it runs down their legs? The "FREE MARKET" they worship MIGHT ACTUALLY EXIST. If it does, then their days of big checks for nothing are dwindling, as "those dammed bloggers" replace them.
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Morning all. Anyone have a good hangover cure?
Morning all. Anyone have a good hangover cure?
Unrepentant Fenian
Keep drinking.
Anyone have a good hangover cure?
menudo-breakfast of champions.
Makes sense to me. A Pontiac that actually starts, that should be recorded on tape for posterity....piece o' shite cars.....
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Cynicus
I had an '89 Grand Am for years. When I moved to nola, I took it in for a tune-up and the mechanics were amazed at how well it was still running. They were like, This must have been a mistake, because generally all Pontiacs are manufactured with built-in defects. Yours is defective simply by not being defective. I miss my mechanics, they were cool. Will and Lenny. Those are great mechanic names, aren't they? They helped me out all through law school. They'd come up with these great fixes to save me money, like when the heating/ water pump (?) went, they just bypassed it or something so the car still ran great, I just didn't have working heat. As they put it, who the fuck needs a heater in New Orleans?
It also got flooded out up to the door handles the first year in law school and once it was dried out, was totally fine. GEICO declared it a total loss, but Will and Lenny were like, it'll be fine. And it was.
Had it until it was stolen from in front of my house in uptown NOLA.
Morning all. Anyone have a good hangover cure?
Unrepentant Fenian - 10:50 am
green chile stew...see above
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You know what really scares them till it runs down their legs? The "FREE MARKET" they worship MIGHT ACTUALLY EXIST. If it does, then their days of big checks for nothing are dwindling, as "those dammed bloggers" replace them.
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heh
but it makes the spector of net neutrality that much scarier
chile recipe, south of border: if you prepare any stew type with pork, it is labeled 'al pastor', as opposed to using another meat. interesting history of this nomenclature.
Morning all. Anyone have a good hangover cure?
Unrepentant Fenian
A greasy breakfast, and Gatorade till it comes out your pores.
I don't know if anyone read Weisberg's entire article but there is a great deal more to laugh than the term "isolationist left" in reference to George Mitchell and presumably his (our?) ilk.
The premise is that there was nothing inevitable about the failure of the U.S. attempt to remake Iraq. In other words, but for bad luck and/or poor execution and/or poor planning the whole thing might have been just ducky.
The reality that a few hundred thousand U.S. troops, or NATO troops, or "crusader" troops of any kind would be a BAD THING in amy middle eastern country is ignored, as are the fault lines produced in Iraqi society by a few decades of Saddam's rule and the post '91 reality of an already divided Iraq.
Just stupid is all. But what else is new?
Heya moonbats 
Makes sense to me. A Pontiac that actually starts, that should be recorded on tape for posterity....piece o' shite cars.....
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Cynicus
Look, it's not the car's fault that it's owned by a troll. Lay off.
Big Three vehicles are the automotive equivalent of trolls. Used to suffer them, i no longer waste time & money on them. Nie wieder.
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...it makes the specter of net neutrality that much scarier
Nancy Willing - 10:51 am
also makes the destruction of net neutrality all the more desirable...
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Yeah, Gatorade helps.
3 cups chopped green chile
Why thank you. Printing it.
2 questions, though.
1)would poblanos be a good approximation of the green chiles you southwesterners refer to, or would anaheims or somw other kind be better?
2)Seems to me that in an hour's cooking, those new potatoes would fully disintegrate. Is that the point, or do you put them in later, or do we keep this thing at such a low simmer that they don't?
OT: Nuri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister, has threatened to "review" relations with countries which have criticised the bungled execution of Saddam Hussein, saying the hanging was an internal matter.
"The Iraqi government could be obliged to review its relations with any state that fails to respect the wish of the Iraqi people," Mr Maliki said in his first reaction to the ousted president's hanging in Baghdad on December 30.
"We consider the execution of the dictator an internal affair that concerns only the Iraqi people," he said.
Mr Maliki also attacked those who criticised the execution.
"We find that this conduct is inciting sedition and flagrant interference in the internal affairs of Iraq and abuses feelings of the families of the victims."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...06/
uiraq106.xml
A greasy breakfast, and Gatorade till it comes out your pores.
SteveNS
That was my idea as well. Later gators.
'Morning, moonboudicca. What's today's historical comparison?
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over here the pro war lefties call themselves 'the decent left' with all anti war protesters being rabid and rude.
Anaheims are the best approximation.
Keep it on low - don't boil the potatoes in advance - they'll cook thru in the time the stew takes. You use new potatoes rather than bakers so that they're not all starchy and dissolvy.
weisberg doesnt mention all the countries we've fucked up by proxy. we need to invade to wreck havoc.
Big Three vehicles are the automotive equivalent of trolls. Used to suffer them, i no longer waste time & money on them. Nie wieder.
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Cynicus
Every GM I owned had an engine you couldn't beat to death with a crow bar. Fucking energizer bunnies of internal combustion.
The reality that a few hundred thousand U.S. troops, or NATO troops, or "crusader" troops of any kind would be a BAD THING in amy middle eastern country is ignored
Wingnuts: If the Iraqis would engage us like a proper Army, we would win going away.
Mmm. Printing yours too, WGG.
'Morning, moonboudicca. What's today's historical comparison?
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Cynicus | 01.06.07 - 10:55 am | #
heh well i've been working on an essay due in on the 17th Jan for one of my modules, the question being What were Claudius’ objectives in invading Britain in AD 43?
And for the Anaheims? Remember to roast and peel them before using them.
Morning, all.
Anything of an irksome nature happen around here since last night?
What were Claudius’ objectives in invading Britain in AD 43?
Um, a desire for Scotch Eggs?
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Every GM I owned had an engine you couldn't beat to death with a crow bar. Fucking energizer bunnies of internal combustion.
JR, kerosene and a match
then i must have gotten your share of defects, because i would get entire chains of mechanical failures.
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I see the Iraqi prime minister is on board with the McCain Doctrine, although no one knows if anyone's really surging because there is no evidence of elevated troop levels, American or Iraqi.
Just more people getting tortured, shot, or blown up.
The wingnuts bitch about the ROE. If we were free to cut down every Iraqi in sight, the war would have ended years ago.
Lime Rickey
what rules of engagement? the one they wink at?
over here the pro war lefties call themselves 'the decent left' with all anti war protesters being rabid and rude.
Moonbootica, Ubuntu User | Homepage | 01.06.07 - 10:56 am | #
Here those people are called Peter Beinart.
I like toast but shouldn't tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars be worth more than knowing how to make proper toast?
shawk
I like the idea of a pundit rating system. It should be based on: "truthiness and accuracy of predictions."
People worthy of getting the highest rating ("10" let's say) would be Krugman and his ilk.
People worthy of getting the lowest rating, zero, would be the Kristols, Krauthammers and assorted other krapheads!
oy, we dont need to invade in order to wreck havoc, rather.
the fourth crusade saw Christians sacking fellow Christian Constantinople
really it was a cover for the Venetian Republic who greedily wanted a total monopoly of the Levant trade routes.
better to install a venal Latin puppet state who would do their bidding.
If "isolationism" means anything it means acting without regard for the interests or justice of other nations and peoples. In that sense, it's the Bush Administration's foreign policy that is literally isolationist in its "fuck you" hostility to international norms of conduct, diplomacy, and justice for all.
seriously , menudo is made with tripe that sucks up the alcohol.
And for the Anaheims? Remember to roast and peel them before using them.
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Check. An unroasted chile is like a buttefly still inside it coccoon.
The reality that a few hundred thousand U.S. troops, or NATO troops, or "crusader" troops of any kind would be a BAD THING in amy middle eastern country is ignored
Wingnuts: If the Iraqis would engage us like a proper Army, we would win going away.
Dear Wingers:
In the immortal words of Msgt. Murphy, "The enemy never does what you want him to. that's why he's called the enemy."
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Sigh. Will it be ever thus, that we have to build our toys from twigs and pebbles?
an! o I eed a ew eyboard or hat??
B&G Mission Accomplished!
Fullness achieved!
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The Triumphal Quadriga or Horses of Saint Mark which are an icon of Venice were looted from Constantinople.
which were then looted in turn by Napoleon.
what rules of engagement? the one they wink at?
jello
They would prefer even more winking.
It's too bad. tragic really, that Bush's political desperation is going to lead to lots more American and Iraqi deaths. Sacrifices on the altar of failed policy and Halliburton greed.
There ought to be a law against that.
Worst. President. Ever.
But really -- it's 10:00, and I must stand and radiate correctly.
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seriously , menudo is made with tripe that sucks up the alcohol.
mestizo
I think the point is that being confronted with a steaming bowl of guts like that on the morning after will make you puke so hard that you will swear off drinking forever.
Myself, I find a nice bowl of jook much more civilized....
then i must have gotten your share of defects, because i would get entire chains of mechanical failures.
Cynicus
Well, notice I didn't say anything about the bodies 
After 200,000 km they were not so pretty.
the pulling down of Saddam's statue, will fade to a distant memory, but, his hanging has now made this bloody dictator a martyr.....would impeach be to kind of a word to use?...
Bus to Target: Free
Walking to bus stop: Priceless!
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eriously , menudo is made with tripe that sucks up the alcohol.
alka seltzer doesn't work?
Sigh. Will it be ever thus, that we have to build our toys from twigs and pebbles?
Ah, it's not so bad. Just ask the wooly mammoths if they still laugh at the little hairless apes, chipping away at pebbles and attaching said chipped pebbles to little sticks......
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seriously , menudo is made with tripe that sucks up the alcohol.
mestizo
How does the menudo get into your bloodstream to do this in a form any different from, say, bacon?
Well, if a movement such as the Isolationist Left really exists, it sure has swelled in numbers and will continue to do so.
For a truly nauseating experience, read Maureen "I Boinked John Tierney and I'm Not Ashamed to Admit It" Dowd's column in the NYTIMES today.
Perphaps the most perfect example of her "Everybody Sucks Except Me" school of punditry ever.
Between her, Brooks, and Friedman it's amazing the Times hasn't lost more readership to suicide.
JR: How does the menudo get into your bloodstream to do this in a form any different from, say, bacon?
It's the extra vilii.
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I find drinking lots of water helps and aspirin.
During my first year at Uni me and my friend polished off a whole bottle of Tequila between us, complete with salt and lemon (we had a lot to drink beforehand) and I woke up feeling shit,threw up and felt like i wanted to throw up for a good long while, so i kept running to the loo eventually wandered out wearing my sunglasses and cooked myself a lone fried egg as my cousin said 'eat something greasy to take the edge off'.
I did not feel good till the evening and it took me a day or so to recover.
OK, it's pretty clear to me at this point that my son is going to remain obstinately camped out on my lap until I go play Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire with him on my laptop, like I promised. LAterz...
McCain is so full of shit!
"Substantially more troops and sustained effort," will not win any war in Iraq.
"Substantial and sustained" are equivalent to Nixon's "secret plan" to end the war in Vietnam.
That didn't work either!
i had a crappy hangover on Boxing Day too.
MoDo likes to throw crumbs out to the masses hoping she can keep everyone happy.
She fails miserably.
Who left these two cats here?!?
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I did not feel good till the evening and it took me a day or so to recover.
Moonbootica
Tequila binges require practice.
I see the Iraqi prime minister is on board with the McCain Doctrine, although no one knows if anyone's really surging because there is no evidence of elevated troop levels, American or Iraqi.
pie
But of course. We can't have our sockpuppets bucking the party line, now, can we?
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nothing beats the embarrassment of throwing up on the side of a motorway verge in front of your parents.
my mother was quite scared that I was going to be dead drunk as I became immobile.
One good way to PREVENT a bad hang-over is to take a good dump before retiring to sleep...
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The last time I got sick from alcohol was on tequila and Fresca. Haven't had either in some time.
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I used to say I definitely would nail MoDo given the chance.
Now, I'm convinced she'd be a lousy lay.
Tequila as my brother's poison at Uni, now he can't drink the stuff.
and my sister used to like Sambuca but after overindulging it while working as a holiday rep in Switzerland, never again!
Now, I'm convinced she'd be a lousy lay.
Sinfonian, feeling less shitty | 11:09 am
were she merely slippery, albeit inert, i'd hit it...
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A big breakfast, followed by a cleansing dump, a shower and several cups of cawfee always does the trick for me.
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The last time I got sick from alcohol was on tequila and Fresca. Haven't had either in some time.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
The last (and first) time I got sick from alcohol was on tequila and wine and rye and sensi and lebanese black.
McCain is so full of shit!
"Substantially more troops and sustained effort,"
McCain is full of unrequited lust for the office of the President.
"substantially" and "sustained" are just the weasel words to make him the "If-only" candidate - "If only they had listened to Me and escalated SUBSTANTIALLY enough", or "If only the backstabbing Democrats had left the tropps there in a SUSTAINED enough fashion, instead of pulling them out on the very brink of final victory...."
McCain. Pfui.
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British policy in Afghanistan is seriously damaging Western efforts against the Taliban, diplomats from allied countries have warned.
Officials from the United States and European members of Nato have told The Daily Telegraph that Britain is increasingly at odds with its coalition partners over its policy of making arbitrary peace deals with the Taliban, while at the same time declining to put pressure on Pakistan to stop providing sanctuary to the Taliban leadership.
Diplomats in Kabul and Islamabad say Britain's "go it alone policies" are threatening military preparations for a major Taliban offensive expected next month.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...1/06/
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JR: The last (and first) time I got sick from alcohol was on tequila and wine and rye and sensi and lebanese black.
That's a technicolor confab, Dad. That had YAK written on the bottle!
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I have had an annoying tendency to say the three words you never say when you know the bartender (or someone you're with does):
"I like Goldschlager."
Hence, the last two times I got sick from drinking. (No, I didn't learn the first time.)
sheets, btw.
i saw a tip about taking a couple of tylenol or aspirin before going to sleep to avoid a hangover. but then somebody told me you shouldn't combine meds with alcholol. that wouldnt apply to tylenol would it? it's not like taking a barbiturate.
don't take tylenol if you've been drinking...
not good for the liver...
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that wouldnt apply to tylenol would it?
jello
it would, because Tylenol is kinda hard on the liver, and so is alcohol, so if you have liver problems you can wind up in big trouble. However, a couple of Tylenol and a normal liver won't have problems.
Mmmm, booze.
What were Claudius’ objectives in invading Britain in AD 43?
Um, a desire for Scotch Eggs?
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Let get Walt Disney's head out of the freezer and kick it around like a rugby ball
Dinner party circuit "isolationist" straw man argument on the march. Time for Weekly Standard to do another "national greatness" article about killing the brown guys
Hit them with a chair, Duncan.
This is a cogent and humorous description of the phenomenon at issue.
Great writing, A--the best I've read from you in a while. I'm copying and pasting and sharing (in private, of course).
There's no period after the S in Truman's name. Harry S Truman is the correct way to spell it. His middle name was S, just S.
It is unbecoming of you , Kevin, to single out this third grader for public rebuke. I hope you're sorry you made him pee in his pants.
As I said in my Daily Kos post, I am a rational, progressive, internationalist that believes enlightened self-interest will get us very far. I heard the "isolationist left" meme a few months ago and found it to be yet another annoying mischaracterization of my position and that of tens of millions of other Democrats and liberals.
Very well said.
As I understand the 'Isolationist Left' charge, it has two prongs: the first is the one Atrios metioned - that we oppose invading other people's land and then turning their country to shit - but the other prong is the 'anti-FTA' views of a sizeable sector of progressive political life which, whatever your views of Free Trade Agreements, may be a reasonable use of the descriptor 'isolationist'.
Whatever the case, conservatives are a pack of proven-incompetent assholes who have no credibility when daring to pronounce upon the concerns of adults.
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The reason why the right (as I blogged about a while back -- consider this a passive/aggressive blogwhore) and their toadies in the media (who take the right's POV lest they been seen as liberal, if not also for any other reason) construct the debate as being between isolationism and militarism is because that has always been the debate on the right and they project that debate onto the larger political stage (which form of projection of internal debates on the right is not unique to the issue of whether to go to war).
It isn't just that they are trying to denigrate us by labeling us as "isolationists", but they don't even see any alternatives besides isolationism and unilateralist militarism as those are the only alternatives voiced on their side of the political spectrum. Hence how they try to claim Truman as a quasi-neo-con even as people with his point of view on, e.g., the war on terror, are labeled as "isolationists" and "capitulationists".
It's just another example of the lack of full political debate being represented in our media outlets and punditocracy ...
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