I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hulloooo!
Pelosi Secundo!
McNaught!
that I have got to teach my kids that they must never, ever take Presidents and Generals at their word - that their government will send them to kill and die for noble-sounding rot - that they have to question authority.
It's so cute when someone's core beliefs get shattared.
Welcome to reality.
Question Authority!
Tee-hee....
I am McToo Secundo.
I was clean fucking right, thank you very much.
Dr. Shouty-Crakcers. How that hell are you?
He might-could make yer face vanish.
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Dr. Shouty Crackers!
I have a nice Reuben in the fridge for you. And one for Arthur, too.
Yes -- L.E. has silvery-blue eyes. And you can see that, above.
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I was clean fucking right, thank you very much.
pie |
And we have to rub that inconvient little truth into their noses. I wanted to say that to my Right-leaning sister at Christmas, the sister who once complained about hwo she was 'sick of people protesting the war, when obviously that have no idea what their protesting against'.
But that was her choice!
Yeah, I'm just saying, if that was the vibe people got, it's not so odd, and I sensed it too.
Like I said over at Greenwalds, the Doughy Pantloads "Hummana Hummana Hummana" on Dreher was worthy of Ralph Kramden.
The fraud, the mendacity, the utter haplessness of our government's conduct of the Iraq war have been shattering to me.
There even comes a point when the effect of the Pill of Murti-Bing begins to wear off ...
Me so hongry.
Bagels, not b&g.
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OT: Two people have been shot dead and a Shia mosque under construction blown up in Iraq's northern oil hub of Kirkuk.
Armed men planted explosives in the mosque in the Nida neighbourhood of eastern Kirkuk and flattened the building site, Imad Jassim, a police captain, said.
Seventy-five per cent of the mosque had been built.
In central Kirkuk, armed men shot dead two contractors tasked with building access lanes and wounded another two workers.
The assailants opened fire on the men while they were working next to the main highway that runs through Kirkuk from Baghdad before fleeing, Jassim said.
Another three people were wounded and a house partly damaged when mortar rounds exploded in Kirkuk's Nasir neighbourhood, Anwar Qadir, a police colonel, said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...35FA6A0CD18.htm
Shall I rewhore on-topic? Or just note that NTodd's Pa is 61 today?
You know the video project that both Thers and I have suggested for you. And it would be brilliant.
Get me drunk first.
Happy B-day, NTodd's Pa!
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Join the dirty fucking hippies. It's a lot more fun and you don't have to feel ashamed anymore.
(We know what you did.)
Happy birthday, NTodd's Pa!
NTodd--happy birthday to NTodd's Pa!
May his life be long and happy.
was it one of you bloogers who noted bush's surge is coming out of troops they're pulling out of afghanistan? can't recall where i read that. we're bombing somalia? while al qaeda builds up in afghanistan and pakistan. somebody ask mccain to explain that.
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran.
He's 40 and THAT'S his first political memory? Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
NTodd I wish your dad a very happy birthday 
Rod Dreher is as conservative as it gets -- a contributor to National Review and the Corner, a current columnist for The Dallas Morning News, a self-described "practicing Christian and political conservative."
Hey, Tena maybe you should start reading the DMN again!
Happy birfday, NTodd's Pa!!!!!
Truest statement in Dreher's sob story:
But almost four years later, I see that I was the fool.
I agree.
He's 40 and THAT'S his first political memory? Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist
Good point. I'm 41 and I keenly remember Sam Irvin's pontifications during the hearings. Dreher must have been kept in a box until puberty.
Congrats and happy b'day to NTodd's Pa!
Watertiger--how is Mother Tiger?
The fraud, the mendacity, the utter haplessness of our government's conduct of the Iraq war have been shattering to me.
You have to wonder where his disallusionment begins. Is he remorseful that the war has not been more violent, or is he truely regretting the waste and fraud that is the 43 administration?
Happy B-Day to Pantless Pa.
Happy birthday to NTodd's Pa!
the first news story i really remember is the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in 1991.
Dreher must have been kept in a box until puberty.
In a box in a box.
[re: previous thread]
I do give Hillary credit for standing up through the shitstorm that began with her health care work (not so much the Clinton health care approach per se) and intensified in the post-Monica period. I was sympathetic when she was trashed and vilified for the "vast right-wing conspiracy" comment-- an inartful phrase for a very real phenomenon.
So I was pleased when she was elected senator, if only because it drove her detractors wild.
But I wish she'd become male as a Senator, because the virtue of being a strong woman in an Alpha Male world distracts from the fact that she's essentially HoJo in a woman's body. Or, say, Biden in a woman's body, if the HoJo comparison is just too awful.
Hillary's public life is vexed by one Peter Principle or another, in my opinion.
He's 40 and THAT'S his first political memory? Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist
I'm 36 my ealriest political memory is Ford falling down the stairs.
My fondest memories of Reagan is my dad having trouble finding work in the 'great' economy we had.
He was fully employed through the Clinton years.
But almost four years later, I see that I was the fool.
He finally cleaned the steam off his bathroom mirror.
I have a feeling we're in for a spate of this sort of thing.
Good morning, bats.
It's a fine day for some schadenfreude of the preznitshul variety, I think.
The essay is ... well, you judge for yourselves.
My earliest political memory is the assassination of JFK. Third grade.
sallyh,
she's okay. busy planning a bus down to D.C. for 1/27.
Tony's Defence - Nice of Blair to notice us at last
Yo, Rod:
Reality sucks, doesn't it?
Get used to it, pal.
If you had spent any of your miserable fucking stupid life in uniform, you'd have figured this out LONG ago.
Is Steve Simels here, I want to hear about his first political memory.
The Ides of March.
I'm 41, and my earliest political memory is actually the 1972 campaign ... I remember the conventions that nominated McGovern and Nixon, and I remember George Wallace being shot in Maryland.
But, then, I always had a preternatural inclination towards politics ...
Dr. Shouty-Crakcers. How that hell are you?
Scoopernicus
Not so bad, 'enkew. Off to errandlandia in a minute, in front of the ice storm that's predicted here. Dropping down to low 20s tonight - gotta water everybody well and wrap 'em up. My yard looks like the ghosts have come to stay.
My earliest political memory is the assassination of JFK. Third grade.
I definitely remember the campaign and the talk about the horrors of a Catholic president. I was in seventh grade when he was assassinated, and I definitely remember that My mom cried as we watched the coverage.
I'm a little younger but I definitely remember Watergate and Carter's election.
But then I lived in Washington D.C. at the time.
I had a heretical thought for a conservative - that I have got to teach my kids that they must never, ever take Presidents and Generals at their word - that their government will send them to kill and die for noble-sounding rot - that they have to question authority.
On the walk to the parking garage, it hit me. Hadn't the hippies tried to tell my generation that? Why had we scorned them so blithely?
This insight didn't begin with the hippies. Brutus had a similar outlook when he said, "This one's for you, Caesar."
she's okay. busy planning a bus down to D.C. for 1/27.
watertiger
She's so cool.
My mom is writing sonnets to Steve Doocey or some such bullshit.
The Ides of March.
I'm so old, I remember when dirt was first being laid upon the sacred earth.
BooMan on Kristol:
In reality it is not true that we cannot just click our heels and get out of Iraq. We can do exactly that. A phased withdrawal of our troops doesn't preclude doing a four to sixth month security operation in Baghdad. If the President and the Iraqi Prime Minister think they can bring some security to the capital then they can take the troops they need to do it from other provinces. We don't need a surge and we don't need to wait to start bringing units home.
It'd be nice if we could get out the door before the Iraqi government gets strung up with piano wire but, hey, it's not something we want to invest many more lives and billions to avoid.
When the Russians got whipped in Afghanistan they went home. Then they (and we) watched as warlords destroyed what little remained of the country. We don't have to let that happen in Iraq. We can start negotiating now with the regional players to try to assure that Iraq doesn't become a new Afghanistan. If the President wants some time to get those negotiations started, that's understandable. But he ought to explain himself.
What is really going on is that William Kristol (and George W. Bush) doesn't want to contemplate the consequences of defeat in Iraq. "The consequences would be disastrous'. But we must ask, to whom would the consequences be disastrous?
The crunchy rats are leaving as the Good Ship Lolly-pop lists too far to the right.
I may not agree with everything about Barak Obama, but folks, he's got IT.
I knew Clinton had IT when I heard him speak in 1991.
I knew Kerry didn't have IT.
another memory is the death of Princess Diana in 1997 and Labour getting elected.
I also remember thinking Carter should've flown both helicopters himself, like Reagan would have done.
dial-an-epiphany
Attaturk--nope. Peleponesian war.
I still want to know what singing bunny video you guys were talking about downstairs.
I may not agree with everything about Barak Obama, but folks, he's got IT.
I knew Clinton had IT when I heard him speak in 1991.
I knew Kerry didn't have IT.
Scoopernicus
So does Edwards, but Obama has IT in larger quantities.
I have a nice Reuben in the fridge for you. And one for Arthur, too.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Very kind - I think I need to stick to vegies for awhile tho - my sick wasn't as vigorous as yours, but it left me a little puny.
I'm so old, I remember when dirt was first being laid upon the sacred earth.
smalfish
I'm old enough to remember when Wilbur Mills and Fanne Fox were getting laid upon the sacred earth.
Or something like that.
i like the repetant christian right conversions the best. ones who acknowledge the meanness and hatred inherent in that paticular mix of religion and politics. i've only seen one so far.
Is Steve Simels here, I want to hear about his first political memory.
The Ides of March.
When Ugg stole the Club of Power from Gugg...and then got eaten by a sabre-toothed tiger.
My earliest political memory is how Cicero outmenuvered the aristocratic faction and successfully got elected consul.
in front of the ice storm that's predicted here.
Is it icing everywhere in this country today?
Although, the radar shows the rain ending, yet the forcast is for a quater inch of ice today, tonight and tomorrow.
Mark me in the dubious catagory.
She's so cool.
My mom is writing sonnets to Steve Doocey or some such bullshit.
LOL!
OT: The Labour Party will not allow its "historic links" with trade unions to be broken by changes to party funding, Jack Straw has said.
A proposed £50,000 cap on donations, which threatened the link, would be resisted, said the Commons leader.
But he also said parties should spend less on slick election campaigns and get back to "meaningful" debate.
It came as Tory chairman Francis Maude said union funding for Labour always came "with a price tag" of demands.
The three main parties are under pressure to come up with a new formula for party funding after allegations of corruption.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/
6256853.stm
The Ides of March.
is that when we bomb iran?
Hell, it's springtime in Gnashvegas! 65.4°F!
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Steve Simels knows not of Bunny?!
I'm a little younger but I definitely remember Watergate and Carter's election.
But then I lived in Washington D.C. at the time.
Culture of Truthiness | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:36 am | #
I remember the Spanish American War.
You young kids slay me.
Ah, Simels ...
When you see him, tell him he's been immortalized yet again in the intertubes.
Is Steve Simels here, I want to hear about his first political memory.
The Ides of March.
Attaturk
Teapot Dome, for me. It was an interesting time....
Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
I'm 55 and my first political memory is Kennedy/Johnson running against Nixon/Lodge. At that tender age, I assumed my father was a Democrat. I was disabused of that notion later.
all righty then, one down. 29 percent to go.
next. oh father why have you forsaken me?
current temp here is 9°C
Rod's pretty young. 40 is a babe. His political views have been forged from the gamesmanship and lowest common denominator politics of Reegun and his successors.
Good to see that he may be waking up.
Goldberg is actually funny in his column. Not intentionally.
Sinfonian--that was a tasty schaudenfreude breakfast!
Now, may I have a bagel?
My parents voting for JFK with absentee ballots from Japan, 1960.
So does Edwards, but Obama has IT in larger quantities.
Attaturk
No arguments here.
Edwards should have stayed a senator for another term. 2008 would have been a good year to be a running mate.
I still want to know what singing bunny video you guys were talking about downstairs.
Show simels Bunny!
Is Steve Simels here, I want to hear about his first political memory.
The Ides of March.
Are you kidding, he was at Jesus' crucifixion. Damned, dirty Jews...
Brown Discovers His Britishness
Hell, it's springtime in Gnashvegas! 65.4°F!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:39 am | #
JP -- did I give you a heads-up the other day about the, er, computer? I'm senile, so I'm not sure.
What takes Goopers so long? The Dirty Fucking Hippies were right about food, and everything else.
But we must ask, to whom would the consequences be disastrous?
We all know that answer to that one, don't we.
Is it icing everywhere in this country today?
smalfish
Nope. Sunny and 72 here in America's Glans™, with a forecast high of 80.
I have a spare bedroom if anyone wants to visit ... 
move along we have to talk about Barbara Boxer attacking Condiiar who didn't know she had been attacked until Tony Snow told her (I'll bet he was one of her Fox boyz)
"First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it. "
Hey - the news that some winger nutbag is questioning his entire political belief system because of CooCoo is excellent fucking news.
The Ides of March.
Are you kidding, he was at Jesus' crucifixion. Damned, dirty Jews...
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist
Of course he was, that was something like 75 years later.
Ah, Simels ...
When you see him
Sorry, didn't realize he was here.
Simels regrets ...
steve simels: JP -- did I give you a heads-up the other day about the, er, computer? I'm senile, so I'm not sure.
I axe you to call: 615-278-9319. We'll figure out what we can put together for ya.
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Did someone say it's sprintime in Ghormangast?
i taught rod dreher all he knows
at lsu, in 1984, he was in my intro/writing journalism class...
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Current temp celsius here is -5.55556.
Of course he was, that was something like 75 years later.
You people are so off the mark.
Simels changed his name to Steve after he surrendered his rib.
sweet 69.1 degrees here...If Sinfonian lives in the glans, I'm not sure exactly what part I'm in
Is it icing everywhere in this country today?
Kinda here.
Of course he was, that was something like 75 years later.
Yeah, I realized I went backwards after I posted. Stupid BC.
Teapot Dome, for me. It was an interesting time....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:40 am | #
Tell me about it.
Although I always found it interesting that there were no actual teapots involved.
Are you kidding, he was at Jesus' crucifixion. Damned, dirty Jews...
Of course, but that came later, iirc...
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran.
He's 40 and THAT'S his first political memory? Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:31 am |
I was born in '66 and vaguely remember Watergate and Nixon's resignation. I have more clear memories after '76.
My first "political" memory was of JFK's assasination, when I was in first grade. I certainly remember the 1964 presidential election.
I made my own McCarthy for President poster in 1968.
Toonscribe - we're the same age. My first political memory is my parents going to some political thing with "I like Ike" buttons on.
They were Democrats through Roosevelt, then switched. And don't ask me why they did.
Is it icing everywhere in this country today?
But no cake.
Sinfonian--that was a tasty schaudenfreude breakfast!
Now, may I have a bagel?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Thanks!
I'll see what I can rummage up ... I'm hungry, too.
Remember, though, a bachelor's kitchen is usually a frightening place for the unwary ...
Dang, you guyz r harsh. I kinda felt for Dreher...
But I signed up to get 1/27 off from work, so I'll get my march on'n'everything'll be cool.
Then I remember Pat Brown whipping Nixon bad in California '62, back on CONUS.
I was born in '66 and vaguely remember Watergate and Nixon's resignation. I have more clear memories after '76.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
For you everything came after Woody Hayes got shitcanned for punching that Clemson Linebacker.
Simels changed his name to Steve after he surrendered his rib.
watertiger | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:43 am | #
Okay, once again it's Make Fun of the Old Jew Day.
Although I always found it interesting that there were no actual teapots involved.
steve simels |
A man went to jail for accepting a bribe, but the guys who bribed him were acquited.
Dreher still managed to put down Jimmy Carter in an unwarranted fashion.
Steve Simels--every day is Make Fun of the Old Hot Jew Day.
It was Watergate for me, too. Born in '63. Five months old when J.F. Kennedy were kilt.
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Are you kidding, he was at Jesus' crucifixion. Damned, dirty Jews...
always make me post
“Alright, I’ll clear the air once and for all, and confess. Yes, we did it. I did it, my family. I found a note in my basement. It said:
‘We killed him. signed, Morty.’ And a lot of people say to me, “Why did you kill Christ?”
“I dunno . . . it was one of those parties, got out of hand, you know.” We killed him because he didn’t want to become a doctor, that’s why we killed him.”
Okay, once again it's Make Fun of the Old Jew Day.
Who loves ya, kiddo?
*MWAH!*
Oh yeah, GO PATS!!!!
Okay, once again it's Make Fun of the Old Jew Day.
steve simels
It always make fun of the Old Jew Day.
Chris Rock:
"The Minimum Wage is your boss's way of saying 'If I could pay you any less, I would.'"
My first memory is the missiles of October and hiding under the desks of P.S 130, The Bronx.
partly cloudy
43F
here in the hi chihuahuan
but there's another storm headin our way
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sweet 69.1 degrees here...If Sinfonian lives in the glans, I'm not sure exactly what part I'm in
::matthew
IIRC, you're up the shaft a bit from me.
anyone who makes fun of the Old Jew is a schmuck.
It was Watergate for me, too. Born in '63. Five months old when J.F. Kennedy were kilt.
Alibi?
I learned JFK had been shot as I was informed I was to play Santa Claus in a school thingie, since I was the fattest kid in 6th grade.
Simels changed his name to Steve after he surrendered his rib.
Does he eschew apples still?
here in the hi chihuahuan
but there's another storm headin our way
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WoodyG'sGuitar
I saw that last night - it looked as if you and Colorado were going to get it again.
But then, they were predicting the worst ever ice storm here, and so far it's rain.
Ok, must do real work. Or watch Sharpe. the choice is mine.
I was born in 1986 and my first real news memory was 1991.
i'm not sure why a volcanic eruption should stick so much in my mind, I dimly recall images of Mount Pinatubo erupting with this black ash plume.
Nope. Sunny and 72 here in America's Glans™, with a forecast high of 80.
I have a spare bedroom if anyone wants to visit ...
Sinfonian, wingnut bait | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:41 am |
Ok, since the trip I though I was taking in February, with my sister, isn't going to happen :-(
*MWAH!*
watertiger | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:45 am | #
Back at ya! As always!!
Of course, but that came later, iirc...
YES, I KNOW!
I was thinking of Shakespeare, not the original event that inspired his play. Stupid BC.
This makes me laugh:
Pentagon survey says troops fatter, drinking more
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
20070...itary_health_dc
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. troops were fatter and drank harder in 2005 than before the
Iraq war started, according a
Pentagon survey of more than 16,000 service members released on Friday.
Laugh at the tragedy.
Alibi?
Well, that wasn't Maggie Simpson behind the grassy knoll...
It was Watergate for me, too. Born in '63. Five months old when J.F. Kennedy were kilt.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Hunh. Didn't realize you are older than I.
Keep some of that nice weather in Gnashvegas until I get there, y'heah?
watertiger you got me laughing all morning girl.
watertiger:
Have I mentioned that I loved, nay lurved, your beatdown of the Swarthy Little Wog over at FDL the other day?
A thing of beauty....
my first real news memory was 1991.
i'm not sure why a volcanic eruption should stick so much in my mind
I was hoping it would be my graduation.
learned JFK had been shot as I was informed I was to play Santa Claus in a school thingie, since I was the fattest kid in 6th grade.
plantsman, lowercase
Plantsman, were you at Madison No. 1?
Just heard the NPR commentary. Damn, another conservative seeing the light, yet, no mention whatsoever of his plans for atonement. Hundreds of thousands of people dead, folks. An apology or confessed enlightenment is not enough. Not by a long shot. This guy voted for Boosh twice. I want to know, how, specifically, the commentator will atone? (Suicide is always a ready option for those who don't plan something else, like liquidating all their assets and giving the proceeds to charities).
Don't settle for apologies. Sure, we get the props for being right, but it's not enough.
i taught rod dreher all he knows
maybe his first name influenced me but his confession reads like a twilight zone episode.
Mine was the assassination of MLK. Happened on my 8th birthday.
Bunny just for simels.
I still wanna know who the real, singing Bunny was.
Seems more than kinda unfair that the pretty face lip-sync'er is getting the 15 Minutes here ...
its 9°C (49°F) with grey skies and wind here in Devizes.
Sinfonian: Keep some of that nice weather in Gnashvegas until I get there, y'heah?
I'll try, but it's turning cold next week. Today, t-storms are 4cast.
Y'all book your flights.
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C'mon down, Buckeye.
My son's room is unoccupied most times, except the weekends when he's here (how's that for logic?!) ...
Hope you don't mind Spiderman sheets.
My first memory is my father saying "You know, if there is ever an internet, I bet NTodd won't have a blog."
Icy and bitterly cold in KC,MO...more sleet and snow in the forecast...
Spare the Rod and spoil the Jonah.
Attaturk--so what do they recommend? Mountain biking?
Christ on toast points.
"When I see five weirdos dressed in togas, stabbing a man in the middle of the park in front of a full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards, that's my policy."
Pentagon survey says troops fatter, drinking more
Vodka consumption increases.
I'm so old I saw the original cast version of "Anthony and Cleopatra."
Not the play.
The actual people. They let us look at them...they knew they were a hit.
I still wanna know who the real, singing Bunny was.
Her name is Naomi and she is teh hot too.
Icy and bitterly cold in KC,MO...more sleet and snow in the forecast...
Missouri Bird
Same thing three hours north. Knock off a few degrees.
watertiger you got me laughing all morning girl.
My job here is done!
Have I mentioned that I loved, nay lurved, your beatdown of the Swarthy Little Wog over at FDL the other day?
My job here is done!
Seriously, thanks, Steve.
Attaturk--so what do they recommend? Mountain biking?
Christ on toast points.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Peace?
Pentagon survey says troops fatter, drinking more
Vodka consumption increases.
pie | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:49 am | #
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Well, given that conservatives insulate their beautiful minds so fanatically from heretical thoughts. (The blogs don't allow comments, the radio shows screen the calls, and the presidential campaigns don't allow in any dissenters) give him some credit. It's amazing that any of these cultists can actually think occasionally.
Damn, I missed the whole singing Bunny thing.
Reset, or link?
But then, they were predicting the worst ever ice storm here, and so far it's rain.
Tena - 11:47 am
hey, my ears just opened up!!!!
hallelujah!!!!
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Weather.com has mucho sympathy for the ice-storm peeps.
It is 51 degrees in Pittsburgh. But raining.
Cesar committed suicide by stepping onto the knife 23 times
my lecturer said that he told this has a joke one time and it turned up in an exam paper.
didn't take a huge dose of high consciousness to foresee loomingdisaster
about the time bushie uttered "axis of evel" did it for me
Ceasars last words:
"Et tu, middle aged Jew?"
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
steve simels
Some of them have stopped going through life. 
Pittsburgh. One fucking motorcycle accident away from haveing a fucking playoff game here today.
Her name is Naomi and she is teh hot too.
Snow, Bloody Optimist |
any linkies?
They were Democrats through Roosevelt, then switched. And don't ask me why they did.
Tena -- I know what you mean. I think at the time of the Kennedy/Nixon election my father actually was a New Deal Democrat -- coming from rural Tennessee initially, he understood what FDR had done to modernize and get the country on its feet. Sometime in the 60s, I think he changed. I remember him avidly listening to Goldwater nomination speech on the radio. Who knows exactly what happened?
mine was the 1960 election of JFK
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A co-worker suggested I check out the Bunny video, in part because she was trying to figure out the locations. (We're in Philly, where it was made.)
So I did-- and now you're telling me that they show Bunny's face?
I'll have to take another look...
shhhhh. more of "them" might wake up. it's getting very crowded in the big liberal tent.
Once Israel nukes Iran they'll use up their remaining genocide points (even if they don't kill millions, since people are so much more valuable now) and it'll be fashionable to hate jews again.
Cesar committed suicide by stepping onto the knife 23 times
my lecturer said that he told this has a joke one time and it turned up in an exam paper.
Hilarious. I wonder if it made it into that book about humorous answers on college tests.
Bunny - is that the Box in a Box chick?
She is teh hhhhhhhhot. (Also, sadly, teh yyyyyyyyoung.)
its 9°C (49°F) with grey skies and wind here in Devizes.
Moonbootica, Ubuntu User |
it's always warmer in fahrenheit.
She is teh hhhhhhhhot. (Also, sadly, teh yyyyyyyyoung.)
NTodd doesn't think so.
Mike, that's not funny or clever.
Bunny - is that the Box in a Box chick?
Yeah. And the damned boxinabox.com has exceeded BW quota. Sigh.
Grey skies and wind in England.
Who'd have thunk it?
9/5th's C + 32= warmer
Mike, that's not funny or clever.
plantsman, lowercase | 01.13.07 - 11:56 am | #
I agree. It is, unfortunately, true.
Yeah. And the damned boxinabox.com has exceeded BW quota. Sigh.
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist |
How many times have you been over there since last night?
NTodd doesn't think so.
pie
Which part, teh hot or teh young?
I actually did a blog post on the Ides of March last year heh
Which part, teh hot or teh young?
yes.
Once Israel nukes Iran they'll use up their remaining genocide points (even if they don't kill millions, since people are so much more valuable now) and it'll be fashionable to hate jews again.
Mike | 01.13.07 - 11:54 am | #
Oh, lordy....
teh young.
How many times have you been over there since last night?
Zero. Site was down when I got there. But I did download the video to put on my iPod...
dreher reminds me of the one single good thing (tiny tho it is) that resulted from bush's appointment as pres:
my brother, a lifelong republican, suddenly opened his eyes and said "wtf have i been THINKING?"
Watertiger--I made the error of looking at your Augmentation Plan while drinking.
And I love the pic of your siblings.
I know. That's why they want US to do it, and garner the enmity!
BTW, if Dreher became a conservative because he had problems with Jimmy Carter, he's an idiot.
Which means that his current political views are just as puerile as his earlier ones.
IMHO.
This is bad, very bad:
AP
Kurdish gen.: brigade trains for Baghdad
Kurdish military going into Baghdad. Ugh.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...n_re_mi_ea/
iraq
Wha? You don' like false Condi mit Gazongas?
I actually did a blog post on the Ides of March last year heh
Moonbootica, Ubuntu User
Do you have your scripts ready for the new season of Rome?
I didn't even know about boxinabox.com before.
I discovered it on YouTube.
my brother, a lifelong republican, suddenly opened his eyes and said "wtf have i been THINKING?"
Love stories like that.
Kurdish military going into Baghdad. Ugh.
No room at the police station.
As I just received an ipod for Xmas, can someone recommend a s/w program to allow me to convert videos to upload to it?
Kurdish military going into Baghdad. Ugh.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...0...n_re_mi_ea/
iraq
Attaturk | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:59 am | #
I wonder what they got in return. Kirkuk, perhaps.
Grey skies and wind in England.
Who'd have thunk it?
Sinfonian, wingnut bait | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:56 am | #
Of course, they have that Jamie Oliver guy, so at least the food's getting better.
Peshmerga can't catch a break.
Aguatigre--how is your brother holding up?
Do you have your scripts ready for the new season of Rome?
Lime Rickey
Apparently they aren't doing a 3rd season, so it seems hard to believe they'll get to the final victory of Octavian/Augustus this year in 10 episodes.
Too bad, "Rome" and "Driftwood" killed off by HBO waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon.
Why Bush is so Resolute about staying in Iraq
When the Bush administration confronted Pakistan right after 9/11, they said "you're with us, or you're against us". I was right behind them. Pakistan intelligence setup the Taliban, and they were harbouring Al Qaeda. This was the right war at the right time. What Bush "got" after 9/11 is that we needed to fight an entire group of people across the middle east. He lumped them all together; Sunni, Shiite, whatever. From then on he has taken in the Neo-Con vision of the future; hook, line, and sinker. He has made it clear that he intends to declare war on Iran and Syria.
Ever since the very beginning of the Iraq war, the highest priority for the invading forces wasn't instating order or repairing infrastructure, it was building large military bases the size of small cities. These are launching points for attacks on the other declared enemies. He intends this large engagement to last many years. That's why he figures we must keep escalating to keep our stronghold there, indefinitely.
Bush fails to see a much more sensible vision, which has no doubt been pounded into his brain by James Baker and the like. Bush wants to impose democracy by force. Sensible foreign policy encourages democracy by diplomacy. There is a fundamental flaw Bush is missing by staying the course. He is doing this entirely alone under the auspices that we are the only superpower in the world, and we should impose our will on the rest of the world. He is deeply flawed in believing that you can win over other countries, who are interconnected to countries we are attacking, by just telling them to do so.
Bush doesn't believe in a global vision, where all cultures are honoured, and live alongside other cultures. This global unity requires more goodwill than bombs. Bush believes that each year he sustains this war, he is getting us closer to spreading democracy in the Middle East. In reality, as Bush continues this fool's Neo-Con errand, he is further turning America and everything about it into the most hated country in the world. He fails to see that a foreign power can never impose itself upon another culture by force.
Which means that his current political views are just as puerile as his earlier ones.
Well, doesn't that pretty much sum up Conservatives?
Watertiger--I made the error of looking at your Augmentation Plan while drinking.
It has that effect on people, I understand.
I still wanna know who the real, singing Bunny was.
Seems more than kinda unfair that the pretty face lip-sync'er is getting the 15 Minutes here ...
sdf (Stu)
Olbermann reveals all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?
v=ec3wgEkEdPo
Unfortunately, the current regime in Israel seems to be hellbound to do something that shouldn't be possible to do: squander the moral capital of the Holocaust.
teh young.
pie
Well, I believe he's slightly younger than I.
That hottie is less than half my age, I'm sure of it. At some point, sadly, it just becomes icky.
I've noticed that the beauties on campus don't look at me anymore, not even in acknowledgment of my existence. What a drag it is getting old.
Of course, they have that Jamie Oliver guy, so at least the food's getting better.
And Nigella Lawson.
NTodd--you have the video of Bunny on your iPod?
Walking around in public with an erection is usually considered in bad taste
yes second season I imagine we will see the rivalry between Mark Anthony and Octavian.
also reappearance of Cleopatra and the final end to the republic.
What a drag it is getting old.
Nonsense. There are plenty of Anna Nicole Smith's out there.
Oh, maybe that's not such a good idea.
Walking around in public with an erection is usually considered in bad taste
That was 7th and 8th grade.
They were Democrats through Roosevelt, then switched. And don't ask me why they did
the korean war? truman lost congress over it, iirc.
Sinfonian--would it massage your ego any to know that a redheaded grandma thinks you're hot?
(I know, probably not)
What a drag it is getting old.
Sinfonian, wingnut bait- 12:02 pm
is FIU klo's alma mater?
/
Unfortunately, the current regime in Israel seems to be hellbound to do something that shouldn't be possible to do: squander the moral capital of the Holocaust.
Apprentice
Well that's a bit much for me, but I do notice that those of us in this country who do not adopt the LIKUD party line are portrayed as Anti-Semites -- by the same people that would have made great Nazis.
I especially remember sometime in 2003 or 2004 when David Brooks said people who opposed the Neo-Con's war were anti-semitic.
my brother, a lifelong republican, suddenly opened his eyes and said "wtf have i been THINKING?"
Love stories like that.
I asked my hard-core Republican mother about this last week. "Surely," I said, "you don't still support Bush -- you're not one of the 30%?"
"[My sister] and I were just talking about this," she replied. "We were thinking how we almost hoped he wouldn't have been elected in 2004 because he was getting into a no-win situation."
I was too sick - and shocked - to respond adequately.
Too bad, "Rome" and "Driftwood" killed off by HBO waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon.
Attaturk
I can't understand it. Do they have something better in the works?
the korean war? truman lost congress over it, iirc.
jello
Could be. I never really asked them, I guess, or if I did, I don't recall the answer.
They loved Roosevelt and voted for him 4 times.
Something happened -
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran.
He's 40 and THAT'S his first political memory? Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
NTodd
Sad that Dreher's first political memory was to blame Carter for Bush Sr. giving Iranians arms to hold onto American hostages longer.
that a redheaded grandma thinks you're hot?
i know at least one that thinks i am.
Sinfonian--would it massage your ego any to know that a redheaded grandma thinks you're hot?
(I know, probably not)
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
You can massage ... my ego ... anytime, m'dear.
C'mon over here and sit by me.
I always seem to be a beat or two behind the topic, probably because I'm bogged down overthinking everything.
I certainly remember the JFK assassination; I was 8 years old and in third grade parochial school class when we got the news.
But as far as embryonic political consciousness-- I'd have to say c. 1968, because my one and only very smart older brother was in high school, and stuck a Gene McCarthy button on the bureau mirror in our bedroom-- it intrigued me. And I actually remember watching TV news footage of the Chicago cops attacking protestors and instinctively siding with the hippies instead of the goons.
I was 12 or 13 by then, of course-- but not long before, I remember making my (then-unrecovered) alcoholic Uncle Jack quite happy during a family gathering when I earnestly wondered why anti-war demonstrators couldn't be arrested and prosecuted for treason.
A WWII Navy man from a family of Navy men, he applauded my youthful wisdom and good sense; I was too young to realize that he was blotto during such occasions.
I can't understand it. Do they have something better in the works?
Something Cheaper.
First political joke in memory-
What'll we call the White House if Nixon wins?
Nixon Lodge.
1960
Unfortunately, the current regime in Israel seems to be hellbound to do something that shouldn't be possible to do: squander the moral capital of the Holocaust.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 01.13.07 - 12:02 pm | #
War nerd make the point that the holocaust genocide is remembered because they were jews elsewhere (like, in the U.S.) to be witnesses. Most genocides don't get remembered. He uses an example: which indian tribe lived where you live now? Do you know? That's what genocide is, most of the time.
she replied. "We were thinking how we almost hoped he wouldn't have been elected in 2004 because he was getting into a no-win situation."
of his own making.
is FIU klo's alma mater?
/
WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
No idea.
I work at FAU. FIU is down the road in Miami.
Sinfonian--Republicans say the darndest things.
OT: Gunmen who clashed with Tunisia's security forces in recent weeks were Islamists who were carrying details of foreign diplomats and embassies, the interior minister has said.
The government had earlier said security forces had shot dead 14 gunmen and arrested 15 near Tunis after two separate gun battles on December 23 and January 3.
Rafik Belhadj Kacem, the interior minister, was quoted by the official news agency TAP on Friday as telling governing party officials that the group had been assembled by six "terrorist Salafists who infiltrated via the Algerian border".
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...43171E8175D.htm
of his own making.
dirk gently,
Yeah. They make it sound like he walked into something outside himself. Not hardly. He created this entire fucking nightmare.
I had a heretical thought for a conservative - that I have got to teach my kids that they must never, ever take Presidents and Generals at their word - that their government will send them to kill and die for noble-sounding rot - that they have to question authority.
When I was growing up (and I'm older than Dreher by a decade), it was the liberals who supposedly believed in government, and the conservatives who didn't trust it.
Wha' happen?
K-Lo played varsity football at FIU, no?
As I just received an ipod for Xmas, can someone recommend a s/w program to allow me to convert videos to upload to it?
I use Replay Converter (www.replay-converter.com). Cheap and handles pretty much every video format.
of his own making.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Precisely. But, at the time, all I wanted was a nap and some drugs.
I especially remember sometime in 2003 or 2004 when David Brooks said people who opposed the Neo-Con's war were anti-semitic.
Attaturk
David Brooks needs to turn in his yamulke. He has forgotten the Number One Law of Judaism:
Never get in bed politically with people who wouldn't have let your parents into the country club.
Fuck him.
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran. He says he "hated" Jimmy Carter for "shaming America before our enemies with weakness and incompetence."
This is the comment of an ignorant person. What does he think happened out there in the desert?
I use Replay Converter (www.replay-converter.com). Cheap and handles pretty much every video format.
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist
Thanks.
I'm still in awe of the fact that the Enzyte commercial uses wood as the backdrop for text.
OT: Athens - Greek anti-terrorist officers on Saturday sifted through debris of a grenade attack on the US embassy in Athens condemned in the media as a dark sign of a return of militancy in the country.
Police suspect the leftist guerrilla group Revolutionary Struggle of launching the rocket-propelled grenade across the street from the US embassy on Friday in the boldest attack staged by leftwing militants in years.
The blast caused minor damage shattering windows but no one was hurt.
"The strike against the embassy was powerful, audacious, highly symbolic with an imported weapon," the influential Vima daily said in an editorial.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?
s...68688161122B262
He created this entire fucking nightmare.
Tena | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:07 pm | #
Boosh is a tool. A useful idiot in a larger game.
When I was growing up (and I'm older than Dreher by a decade), it was the liberals who supposedly believed in government, and the conservatives who didn't trust it.
liberals believe in government AND don't trust it.
conservatives, vice versa.
sallyh,
she's okay. busy planning a bus down to D.C. for 1/27.
watertiger | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:34 am | #
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you soooooo lucky tohave a ma like her!!!!
thank god it will always be fashionable to hate the Irish.
Never get in bed politically with people who wouldn't have let your parents into the country club.
That applies to a lot of other people, too.
Wha' happen?
Rmj,
A Repug majority happened.
They aren't going to trust anything a Democrat says under any circumstances.
They were totally primed to believe that a Repug majority would be almost holy and blameless.
Well ha fucking ha
As I just received an ipod for Xmas, can someone recommend a s/w program to allow me to convert videos to upload to it?
I use other products by http://slysoft.com and have been happy. They have a mobile app that's designed to convert video to iPod
you soooooo lucky tohave a ma like her!!!!
don't I know it.
she's da bomb diggity.
When I was growing up (and I'm older than Dreher by a decade), it was the liberals who supposedly believed in government, and the conservatives who didn't trust it.
Wha' happen?
Rmj, Street Credentialed | 01.13.07 - 12:07 pm | #
The consevatives believe in government once it's been sufficiently corrupted by business.
OT: BNP ballerina dances through protest by anti-racists
· Audience boos 15 second disruption by activists
· 30 members of rightwing party among audience
The look of concentration on Simone Clarke's face suggested that the small but persistent group of protesters who jumped to their feet near the start of English National Ballet's performance of Giselle yesterday afternoon were not entirely unexpected.
The usual matinee mix of pensioners and schoolchildren had been joined at the London Coliseum, central London, by two less likely groups of ballet enthusiasts - about 30 members of the British National party and a smaller number of anti-racism activists. Both had turned up for Clarke's first public performance since the Guardian named the acclaimed dancer as a member of the BNP during an investigation into the far-right organisation last month.
Just over 10 minutes into the show Clarke was challenged with shouts from the stalls: "Black and white, unite and fight." "No racists in the arts." "Smash the BNP." The protest, which lasted for about 15 seconds, was greeted with boos from the audience and the performance, led by Clarke, continued.
Boosh is a tool. A useful idiot in a larger game.
Mike | 01.13.07 - 12:09 pm | #
at first. but i believe he has grown like some kind of poison kudzu and now overshadows the game itself.
and james baker doesn't know what to do about it.
They were totally primed to believe that a Repug majority would be almost holy and blameless.
Well ha fucking ha
I'm still in awe of the fact that the wife is SO happy in the Enzyte commercial.
thank god it will always be fashionable to hate the Irish.
Culture of Truthiness
Gay Black Liberal Irish Jewish Women in Wheelchairs from Mexico!
liberals believe in government AND don't trust it.
conservatives, vice versa.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Well, yeah, that was the lie about dreaded liberals. Never knew one, though, that trust government so much as thought it should do some good for ordinary people, not just the rich and powerful.
Conservatives, by contrast, were supposed to distrust gov't so much Grover Norquist was their poster child.
Now it's heretical for conservatives to distrust gov't?
Well, anyway, interesting to see Dreher learn the lesson Howard Zinn teaches: "Governments lie."
I use Replay Converter (www.replay-converter.com). Cheap and handles pretty much every video format.
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist
I use Super C, and it's free.
Converts audio as well.
When I was growing up (and I'm older than Dreher by a decade), it was the liberals who supposedly believed in government, and the conservatives who didn't trust it.
Wha' happen?
Reagan "won" the Cold War. Then 9/11.
David Brooks needs to turn in his yamulke. He has forgotten the Number One Law of Judaism:
Never get in bed politically with people who wouldn't have let your parents into the country club.
Fuck him.
steve simels
Perfectly put.
she's da bomb diggity.
Her daughter's no slouch either.
I've noticed that the beauties on campus don't look at me anymore, not even in acknowledgment of my existence. What a drag it is getting old.
Sinfonian, wingnut bait - 12:02 pm
you only know a LITTLE bit of invisibility, brother...
wait'l you hit 60!!!
Gay Black Liberal Irish Jewish Women in Wheelchairs from Mexico!
Attaturk
Sneaking across the border to take our car-washers jobs!
in Britain the current moan from conservatives is 'multi culturalism' and 'PC' which they have made into scapegoats for all the modern ills today.
Walking around in public with an erection is usually considered in bad taste
My neighbors have gotten used to it.
the lesson Howard Zinn teaches: "Governments lie."
Rmj, Street Credentialed | 01.13.07 - 12:11 pm | #
and absolute governments lie absolutely.
Her daughter's no slouch either.
Merci, cher.
I learned from the best.
"They were totally primed to believe that a Repug majority would be almost holy and blameless."
Well, they are christians, beliving in jeebus as they do. Ergo - they are good.
Consider the doctrine of faith alone. All you have to do is - believe. Believe and you are saved. Vote repug and all is well. Coincidence? I think not.
My neighbors have gotten used to it.
"I have to take these pants back to the . . . pants store."
Wonder whatever happened to Rose Royce?
Liberals think government has it's place. Republicans believe people do.
thank god it will always be fashionable to hate the Irish.
Culture of Truthiness
I am actually quite curious about what happened with the Irish, who are doing fucking great these days.
Something got them off their victimized comfort zone ass and let them build a thriving economy.
Gotta go.
Reality -- AKA lunch -- calls.
Talk to you guys later, j'espere.
Goo-Goo History: Or, Everything You Know is Wrong!
Walking around in public with an erection is usually considered in bad taste
At a certain age walking around with a boner is damned impressive.
My neighbors have gotten used to it.
I didn't think you had neighbors out there in the wilderness ...
Well ha fucking ha
Tena
No irony on my part. This is funny as hell.
Every once in a wile the 2X4 between the eyes actually gets the mule's attention.
>you only know a LITTLE bit of invisibility, brother...
wait'l you hit 60!!!
WoodyG'sGuita
O puhleeeeeeeze.
Men don't have a fucking clue. Younger women look at older men all the time. Do y'all imagine for a second anyone looks at a woman with grey hair?
Y'all don't know what invisible is. You go from turned heads to total invisibility in about 50 seconds flat the moment you are over 45 at the latest. And that's pushing it.
David Brooks needs to turn in his yamulke. He has forgotten the Number One Law of Judaism:
Never get in bed politically with people who wouldn't have let your parents into the country club.
Both Brooks and Lieberman answer to a higher authority: Israel.
My neighbors have gotten used to it.
"I have to take these pants back to the . . . pants store."
Heh.
But I find a better solution to "walking of the situation" is to, well "whack off the situation."
Woody, did you receive your e-mail?
Nimby Quimby.
One of my identical coffee mugs has begun making
a small *ting* at the top of the handle as coffee heats it up. Which one?
Liberals think government has it's place. Republicans believe people do.
I'm confused by this apparent false dichotomy.
in Britain the current moan from conservatives is 'multi culturalism' and 'PC' which they have made into scapegoats for all the modern ills today.
Moonbootica, Ubuntu User
Wow. We're actually ahead of you, for once.
That's so last decade here in the States.
the lesson Howard Zinn teaches: "Governments lie."
Rmj, Street Credentialed | 01.13.07 - 12:11 pm | #
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
and absolute governments lie absolutely.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:13 pm
cf I.F. Stone
I'm still in awe of the fact that the Enzyte commercial uses wood as the backdrop for text.
Wha happened to Bob?
Police State: A Compendium of Posts
"Reagan "won" the Cold War."
Reagan was also responsible for the good times under Clinton. Reagan touched a puppy and brought it back to life. Reagan is god.
That's not entirely true, Tena...I'd break you over like a cheap shotgun.
:P
Woody, did you receive your e-mail?
FireFox - 12:15 pm
yo, mon
an' aye tankee!!!
.
Y'all don't know what invisible is. You go from turned heads to total invisibility in about 50 seconds flat the moment you are over 45 at the latest. And that's pushing it.
Tena
The older I get, the better gray hair looks. Especially on a woman.
Unless you think only young men looking you over counts.....
I'm still in awe of the fact that the Enzyte commercial uses wood as the backdrop for text.
who makes those ads? why would men want to take a drug that turns you into plastic stepford people?
That's not entirely true, Tena...I'd break you over like a cheap shotgun.
:P
FireFox
Me and anyone else who looks at you sideways.
;lol:
but I'm flattered just the same. [smile]
thanks to everone for your suggestions.
Unfortunately, the current regime in Israel seems to be hellbound to do something that shouldn't be possible to do: squander the moral capital of the Holocaust. | Apprentice to Darth Holden - 12:02 pm
Actually, I think you're being too kind; I think the squandering began after the Six-Day War, and arguably earlier. Moreover, I attribute this to an embedded premise that the "moral capital" can't be squandered-- that, like 007's "license to kill", it is considered a permanent and inalienable right of Zionists.
This is quite separate and distinct from persons of Jewish faith, heritage, and tradition, of course; I'm referring to the political entity of the Zionist Reich, the bastard child of the Third Reich and the Holocaust. The State of Israel is, unfortunately, taking after its repudiated, vanquished, and obliterated father.
Unless you think only young men looking you over counts.....
Rmj,
Robert, I'll take what I can get and these days, it's mostly dudes with walkers.
I'm very hot among the retirees in the mountains, given that I'm about 10 years younger than most of those women.
Plastic Stepford People with Boners, Fool!
"why would men want to take a drug that turns you into plastic stepford people?"
Explains the 30% support doesn't it?
Me and anyone else who looks at you sideways.
Being all preggers and stuff, she doesn't want anything to do with ol' Foxy....what can I say
My neighbors have gotten used to it.
I believe this is called "moving to the nuisance"
she's da bomb diggity.
Her daughter's no slouch either.
pie | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:12 pm | #
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yes the apple does ot fall far from the tree in this case
me...i had to mother my mom...slight role reversal...guess i mother everything now...sort of a habbit
Being all preggers and stuff, she doesn't want anything to do with ol' Foxy....what can I say
FireFox
Oooooohhhhh - now I get it.
Well congratulations.
[smile]
Conservatives believe every one has his place is should stay in it.
I am actually quite curious about what happened with the Irish, who are doing fucking great these days.
Something got them off their victimized comfort zone ass and let them build a thriving economy.
And all without our invading them, those little leprechauns!
I really don't see how western leaders prancing about the Middle East can really solve the problem of Israel/Palestine.
to me it seems like a chance for leaders to shore up their foreign policy credentials.
On topic.
I was one of the people who preached we had to welcome converts into the fold and not gloat.
I'm finding it very hard to live up to my own advice.
Happy birthday NTodd's da.
thank god it will always be fashionable to hate the Irish.
With great justification.
Mike--the fact is, Ireland's 'thriving economy' hasn't helped a lot of people. Inflation is rampant, home prices are at San Francisco levels.
As for getting off their asses and out of their comfort zone, I suggest you read some history. In the Six Counties at least, it was more a case of British economic repression than of laziness.
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran. He says he "hated" Jimmy Carter for "shaming America before our enemies with weakness and incompetence."
Jeezus H Christ on a jumped up sidecar. This is why I don't read these people, or even about them. They just piss me off and ruin my day.
This guy was what, fourteen at the time? and he hasn't matured a month since
On topic.
I was one of the people who preached we had to welcome converts into the fold and not gloat.
I'm willing to take them in, but gloating is part of the process.
Hee hee!
GloatgloatGloatgloatGloatgloat...
I don't hate the Irish, I loves me some redheads
Late bloomers.
None of these sleazebags are even worthy of holding President Carter's coat.
I was one of the people who preached we had to welcome converts into the fold and not gloat.
I'm finding it very hard to live up to my own advice
As I say, I'm all for it.
But I keep going back to Leonard Cohen: "Myself, I long for love and light/But must it come so cruel/Must it be so bright?"
Terrible the lessons life has to deal in just to make people see reality.
China and other Asian powers have accused the US of overstepping by seeking a UN resolution against Myanmar, saying the Security Council was not the place to tackle the isolated Southeast Asian junta.
China, a permanent Security Council member whose no vote automatically kills a UN resolution, was tight-lipped about Myanmar's crackdown on pro-democracy activists and directed its criticisms at Washington's resolution, which it said did not warrant Security Council attention.
On Friday, China and Russia vetoed the resolution calling on Myanmar's military junta to stop persecution of minority and opposition groups.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...4A033B0A3A3.htm
Men don't have a fucking clue. Younger women look at older men all the time. Do y'all imagine for a second anyone looks at a woman with grey hair?
Tena
Actually - and I'm not pandering by saying this - I have noticed that I'm finding older women attractive more and more now - yes, even those with grey hair.
It startles me sometimes, but I'm accepting where I am in life now ... older women can be teh hot just as younger women can, IMHO.
Mike--the fact is, Ireland's 'thriving economy' hasn't helped a lot of people. Inflation is rampant, home prices are at San Francisco levels.
Yup.
The boom has mainly gentrified parts of the country and most of Dublin and that has driven prices right out of the roof.
ntodd - maybe this will help:
" It can be embarrassing and awkward, especially when you're a teen, or you are in an important meeting or such. Here is what you can do to avoid such embarrassing situations."
A rising tide lifts nice boats.
We should remember today woulda been Martin Luther King's 78th birthday...
just sayin'
/
LB, it seems to me that the crime of the Holocaust is one that so enormous, so monsterous, that it simply cannot be removed from the moral equation. But somehow, the Zionist entity has managed to do this, and has done so aggressively, as if daring anyone to notice that they're doing so.
I know that most Israelis and Palestinans are essentially held hostage by the hatefilled extremists in either camp, but they need to do something themselves, and soon. AIPAC can't hold back the disgust of a growing number of Americans with Israel's conduct and attitude that they're owed an existence by the rest of the world.
It startles me sometimes, but I'm accepting where I am in life now ... older women can be teh hot just as younger women can, IMHO.
Sinfonian
seconded
Well, "The Royal Tenenbaums" is on, and I should be cleaning the house.
What am I doing hanging 'round?
OT: The herdsmen had gathered with their animals around large fires at night to ward off mosquitoes. But lit up by the flames, they became latest victims of America's war on terror.
It was their tragedy to be misidentified in a secret operation by special forces attempting to kill three top al-Qa'ida leaders in south-ern Somalia.
Oxfam yesterday confirmed at least 70 nomads in the Afmadow district near the border with Kenya had been killed. The nomads were bombed at night and during the day while searching for water sources. Meanwhile, the US ambassador to Kenya has acknowledged that the onslaught on Islamist fighters failed to kill any of the three prime targets wanted for their alleged role in the 1998 US embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.
The wanted men are Fazul Abdullah Moham-med, Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan and Abu Taha al-Sudani, who were all supposedly sheltered by the Union of Islamic Courts during its short reign in Mogadishu.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
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"Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran."
First political memory was the 67 arab israeli war, actually. I went to a school that was about 2/3 jewish, and since they talked about it I heard about it. Next was 68 and tet, king kennedy, chicago and all that. I'm 7 years older and my earliest political memory is 12 years earlier. What does that say?
And Britney is totally wasted. (Well, she was.)
Here is what you can do to avoid such embarrassing situations."
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:22 pm | #
I used to count backwards from 200 by 17s
What am I doing hanging 'round?
Rmj
getting your fix like the rest of us?
We should remember today woulda been Martin Luther King's 78th birthday...
just sayin'
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:23 pm | #
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the AVUNCULAR LIBERAL media is all child kidnapp all day long
aint they great!!!????
Well, my blood sugar's cratering and I got a penny dreadful to start. Laters!
Reagan was also responsible for the good times under Clinton. Reagan touched a puppy and brought it back to life. Reagan is god.
Reagan can also make your penis larger and can give you an erection that will last four hours, but not one second longer.
It startles me sometimes, but I'm accepting where I am in life now ... older women can be teh hot just as younger women can, IMHO.
Sinfonian
seconded
FireFox
More and more, younger women look like children. Caught some photos of Katie Holmes while surfing channels this morning, was startled to realize what a child she is.
Anjelica Houston, on the other hand (I LOVE "The Royal Tenenbaums") I could follow like a love-sick puppy.
I am getting old.....
And Britney is totally wasted. (Well, she was.)
Sinfonian, wingnut bait - 12:24 pm
virtually all and any attention paid to this bovine bint is totally wasted..
imho
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Wow, Bush keeps saying smart things!
Being all preggers and stuff, she doesn't want anything to do with ol' Foxy....what can I say
FireFox
silly. if she's less than 8, 8-1/2 months along have fun! plus, you don't have to worry about birth control.
The guys I catch looking at me these days, I swear to god, are trying to figure out what I looked like before time got ahold of me.
O well - nothing I can do about it.
I hate this fucking virus bullshit. I have never had anything that made me feel worse as it was going away but man, this does. It hurts! The whole right side of my face is killing me -
[sorry to whine.]
Bovine bint.
Mu.
Men don't have a fucking clue. Younger women look at older men all the time. Do y'all imagine for a second anyone looks at a woman with grey hair?
Sometimes I see them not only not looking, but looking right through me as if I am not even there.
That's okay though, I'm really not interested in wiping their noses.
PBS is building a habbitat for humanity house
oh that vile anti-semite carter!!!!/////
That's okay though, I'm really not interested in wiping their noses.
ql in ny
I love hearing a bunch of older women who are widows talk about that. They invariably say they wouldn't get married again for anything - they don't want to take care of anyone else.
uh huh.
helloscam is bening a bitch again
yeah, dirk, I think the hormones are a factor, she is around 6 months....out newest little democrat will be here in April
Meanwhile, the US ambassador to Kenya has acknowledged that the onslaught on Islamist fighters failed to kill any of the three prime targets wanted for their alleged role in the 1998 US embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.
This fucking regime's answer to every question is to drop a fucking 500 pond bomb and then sort out the details later.
What ever happened to infuckingtelligence?
it was the liberals who supposedly believed in government, and the conservatives who didn't trust it.
but it's conservatives who have the authoritarian complex. how did they overide that when clinton was on the throne? they delegitimized his election every chance they got, by citing perot as spoiler amd saying he never had a mandate.
Tony's Defence - Nice of Blair to notice us at last
I am actually quite curious about what happened with the Irish, who are doing fucking great these days.
You think? I didn't think they looked so fucking great against LSU.
BTW, Assmussen is at 35% for the second day in a row. Shouldn't Atrios post something about it and link to Holden?
From the link:
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran. He says he "hated" Jimmy Carter for "shaming America before our enemies with weakness and incompetence."
That's funny, I'm 40, too, and my first real political memory was Nixon resigning in disgrace. Where was Dreher at the time? Blowing up plastic army men?
Fascism creeping in sheetsezes
I hate this fucking virus bullshit. I have never had anything that made me feel worse as it was going away but man, this does. It hurts! The whole right side of my face is killing me -
[sorry to whine.]
Tena | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:27 pm | #
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hot compress with vicks or menthalatum...do you have any pain meds....could overnite ya some migraine shit
BTW, Assmussen is at 35% for the second day in a row. Shouldn't Atrios post something about it and link to Holden?
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:30 pm | #
it's understood.
sheets
Meanwhile, the US ambassador to Kenya has acknowledged that the onslaught on Islamist fighters failed to kill any of the three prime targets wanted for their alleged role in the 1998 US embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.
The important thing is to kill some brown people to create the illusion of progress.
sittenpretty - Do not give away your migraine meds.
I'll be fine. I'm going to heat up a washcloth and apply that and take some aspirin. Please hang on to your meds, honey. I appreciate it, but don't do that - you need them and this is temporary.
Wow, Bush keeps saying smart things!
As I just noted at your joint, the Dems HAVE been offering solutions; the White House keeps putting its hands over its ears and shouting "LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
re NTodd's post
It really scares me that w thinks he has to remind everyone that people have the right to express opinions that don't agree with his.
Damn fucking right I have that right, and I don't need his fucking permission.
That's funny, I'm 40, too, and my first real political memory was Nixon resigning in disgrace. Where was Dreher at the time? Blowing up plastic army men?
Buzz Bomb |
Heh, 39 and I remember Nixon's resignation too. My uncle made a scene hootin' and hollerin' is why. I do remember President Ford, WIN buttons, etc.
I have absolutely no personal memory of Vietnam. I guess I never watched the news.
Damn fucking right I have that right, and I don't need his fucking permission.
ql in ny
I had the best dream one night a year ago or so - dreamed I was somewhere he was speaking and I sat there and shot him the finger the whole time. He sent his goons after me and I went to where CooCoo was and told him I had the right to tell the president to fuck off any fucking time I wanted.
sittenpretty - Do not give away your migraine meds.
I'll be fine. I'm going to heat up a washcloth and apply that and take some aspirin. Please hang on to your meds, honey. I appreciate it, but don't do that - you need them and this is temporary.
Tena | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 12:32 pm | #
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seriously...i can get as much as i need (striken one ) that i am
if it persists i can go mail you a few
The Dirty Fucking Hippies Were Right
Well, duh.
Dreher, 40, recounts that his "first real political memory" was the 1979 failed rescue effort of the U.S. hostages in Iran.
He's 40 and THAT'S his first political memory? Jesus, I'm 37 and Nixon getting on Marine One is mine...
NTodd, Bunny Polygamist
I turn 50 this year. My very first political memory is the infamous Cuban Missile Crisis.
I'm 57. My first memory is Ike having a his heart attatck and my family (all dems) praying for him cause they didn't want Nixon to be pres. I must have been a political nerd from birth
More and more, younger women look like children.
Oh, good -- it's not just me. Katie Holmes looks like a child to me, too -- and I'm the same age as Tom Cruise.
Not sure about Angelica Houston. But, by god, Diane Keaton is as sexy as ever!
Click through to Jonah "dumber than a jar of paste" Goldberg's dismissal or Dreher's essay as anti-intellectual. It's worth the snort.
I find the "crunchy con" lifestyle slightly icky.
Did anybody watch or listen to Bill Moyers and Bernie Sanders at the Free Media Conference Atrios is attending as we speak? Great Stuff!
http://freepress.net/conference/
...full_schedule07
Good point. I'm 41 and I keenly remember Sam Irvin's pontifications during the hearings. Dreher must have been kept in a box until puberty.
Attaturk | Homepage | 01.13.07 - 11:32 am | #
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I am 41 as well. I remember the Watergate Hearings, like they were yesterday. Back then, one tv in the house meant you watched whatever your parents watched. I remember Robert Kennedy's asassination, bits and pieces anyways. And my parents actually had us campaigning at one time, for Hubert Humphrey, I remember being real young then.
This Dreher guy remembers THAT as his first thought to our government and it's workings? Yep this dude must have lived in a box for the first few years of his life. Geez...no wonder our country is like this...no one knows sh*t.
dreher is a sloooowwwwww learner
It startles me sometimes, but I'm accepting where I am in life now ... older women can be teh hot just as younger women can, IMHO.
Sinfonian
seconded
FireFox
It's enough that older women don't think showing a bare midriff in 20 degree weather is sexy or empowering.
(Lingerie under a full-length wool coat is okay with me anytime.)
The following was emailed to Jonah Goldberg in response to his post at the Corner on Dreher's statement:
You are correct in stating that Bush should not be equated with Carter. Carter wanted to do the right thing, the right way, even if it was via a tragically flawed mechanism that he was properly denounced for. Carter did not lie to the country and accepted responsibility for his mistakes. Bush, and the rest of the egomaniacs around him, lied and bent the intelligence to fit their predetermined petty desires and have bankrupted the country morally and financially to do so. There was an imminent threat for Carter, our people had been taken hostage; there was not any imminent threat to us, or anybody else at the time Bush recklessly, and without provocation, invaded Iraq. Bush refuses to admits his egregious mistakes and keeps exacerbating them. Furthermore, for you to characterize Mr. Dreher's comment as "anti-intellectual" is absolutely laughable; you have neither done, nor exhibited, anything in your short time on the national stage that would indicate that you are an intellectual or are even capable of recognizing an intellectual thought if it hit you in your dense, blinder limited, head. You think far to much of yourself, and far to little of others; but that is typical of your side of the political spectrum. Grow up little boy.
Remember when the neighbors ran Adam and Eve out the Garden for that inbred stuff they were trying to pull with the kids, though Cain and I were pretty cool (younger brothers can get on ones nerves). First political memories, so many,so many, David and the rightwing Judaic fundies undermining Saul, the Gracchi Brothers being done in by the conservatives,Jesus' stepdad Joseph becoming head of the Carpenters Union Antioch LVII...
Rod, I do believe, just realized that Bush 43, the neo-cons and the "bowel" movement conservatives have sold out the future of his own children.
From huge budget and trade deficits, to massive spending on an unnecessary war in Iraq (with more wars planned by BushCo), to global warming and environmental degradation, Rod must have started thinking about what future he and his fellow "bowel" movement conservatives will be handing off not only to his own children but to all the children in America. And it is not a pretty sight.
The question is, though, will the Democrats in the new Congress be able to roll back some of the worst abuses and excesses of the "bowel" movement conservatives, bring our democracy back from the brink of destruction fostered by the "bowel" movement conservatives, or will it be business as usual up in Washington?
We shall see.
Impeach Bush and Cheney now.
The White House needs an enema, to flush out all the "bowel" movement conservatives. who have done what they've done to our great nation.
In fact, Democrats and other freedom-loving, patriotic U.S. citizens should compile an "enema's list", so we will know which "bowel" movement conservatives need flushing.
In particular, Dreher recounts how much, during the 1980s, he "disliked hippies..."
Um, hippies were extinct by the '80s.
I guess the hippies were so super horrible that they didn't even have to exist for Dreher to fear and dislike them.
Now they're back and they are dirty and fuckin', and have always been against the war for Iraq.
Rod Dreher is a whining loser who's having an embarrassing public midlife crisis meltdown. Hopefully his wife will have the sense to divorce him and take custody of his children before he has the chance to inflict permanent damage upon them.
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