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third to soil the sheets
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non, renato!
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Looks like I don't even get to bust up a home run.
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hey what was the score of that World Cup game last summer?
Oh, yeah... Italy 6, France 4!
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WORD!
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"if you want a safe job, go sell shoes."
hahaha
wonder if hagel meant someone in particular.
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What would the crime rate in America be if there were no blacks?
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Makes Gerth pretty fucking important.
I don't think I like that idea.
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Paved the way for the abysmal Gore coverage, and before that insane anti-Clinton media, and before that... well, you may be right.
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I like it when French is spoken in here.
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Did anyone notice that it is now 5 minutes until midnight?
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Oh, yeah... Italy 6, France 4!
r€nato
GRRRR!
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First there was the WORD.
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This is true of the Bush presidency specifically, but I think when we look back at the modern political-media era, the original sin really is Jeff Gerth's first bit of journalistic fraud which was his first Whitewater piece for the Times.
a-fucking-men.
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I will pimp my cat no more, forever!
(well, tonight, anyway)
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NTodd--and then there was Lola in the catbox...
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Hold me!
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No, because Democrats participated both actively (Lieberman) and passively (Gore) in the stolen election, and you can't really hang that on them during the penis measuring era.
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NTodd--and then there was Lola in the catbox...
And that crap made a whole new world, in which Lola was GOD.
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Did anyone notice that it is now 5 minutes until midnight?
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He says on holoscan time
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I hear ya but, but, but whaddyah, whaddyah, no Iran-Contra?
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from below
"feels as if we all discovered we are mortal or something. - EkCenTriK
Welcome to Portland.
bo"
Hah! (Insert your own smiley here)
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Doug, Memphremagog Wannabe
are yu rich Doug, because if you can afford a house around that lake, you're one of...them. A spy! a spy!
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I recall the bullshit with Bush fundraisers laughing that no one could pronounce Dukakis' crazy name, and Bush saying his supporters wanted to "bring down America", so that kind of crap has been around a while. But I was living in D.C. at the time, and recall being blow away by the bizarreness of the Clinton coverage.
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...to add on to A-man's point... I used to be a fairly middle-of-the-road, vote-for-the-candidate-not-the-party kind of guy. Yeah I mostly voted for Dems, but I also voted for Goldwater and the occasional Republican if he/she was a reasonable sort.
All that came to an end when the Clinton witchhunt started up. The Bush election fraud of 2000 was just the natural extension of the win-at-any-cost mentality of the GOP.
I will never again vote for a Gooper. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican in my book.
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And that crap made a whole new world, in which Lola was GOD.
NTodd
isn't that Tom Cruise's job now?
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Hold me!
steve simels
Come sit over here.
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I hear ya but, but, but whaddyah, whaddyah, no Iran-Contra?
Well, shit, we could go back to Ford pardoning Nixon. More immediate history is I think more instructive.
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Rosanne Cash on Letterman
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Did anyone notice that it is now 5 minutes until midnight?
Funny, my clock says 11:17
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the original sin really is Jeff Gerth's first bit of journalistic fraud which was his first Whitewater piece for the Times.
But what let him get away with that. how did we go form Woodward and Bernstein to the Whitewater garbage?
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Did anyone notice that it is now 5 minutes until midnight?
Yeah, but that's still safer than during Reagan...
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a blogger (name escapes me) revisited the nightline treatment of the clintons. the show edited videotape testimony and inferred hillary was hiding something. but when you reviewed the whole tape uncut, you could see she wasn't. nightline created a faux scandal out whole cloth.
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Not Whitewater.
Gary Hart. They took him apart first, because he was "weird", according to the Broders, et al.
"What It Takes", Richard Ben Cramer.
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Mattamiscontis is Penobscot for stream with lots of alewives. Cobbosseecontee is place of sturgeon. So is Passagassawaukeag, but in Passamaquoddy.
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WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States launched an airstrike in Somalia against suspected terrorist targets - the second such attack this month, defense officials said Wednesday.
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When Blackwater is 1) assigned, and 2) fails to protect our embassy personnel in central Baghdad, we are witnessing le fin de guerre.
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I will never again vote for a Gooper. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican in my book.
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The problem is that even the best Repukes empower the Repulican Party. And the Republican Party represents the worst of the breed, not the best.
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I will never again vote for a Gooper. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican in my book.
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The problem is that even the best Repukes empower the Repulican Party. And the Republican Party represents the worst of the breed, not the best.
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"The United States launched an airstrike in Somalia against suspected terrorist targets - the second such attack this month, defense officials said Wednesday."
I presume they denied any camels were injured in the backside.
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when we look back at the modern political-media era, the original sin really is Jeff Gerth's first bit of journalistic fraud which was his first Whitewater piece for the Times.
You betcha. And a fraud which neither the NYTimes or anybody associated with it has ever apologized for.
When they do, then the Little Sociopath(TM) and the rest of the wingnts can talk to me about the so-called Liberal Media.
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Gary Hart. They took him apart first
they took him apart because he dared reporters to follow him... so they did... and they found him cavorting with, uh, some blonde bimbo whose name escapes me and who later converted to fundie christianity.
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This is true of the Bush presidency specifically, but I think when we look back at the modern political-media era, the original sin really is Jeff Gerth's first bit of journalistic fraud which was his first Whitewater piece for the Times.
I could not possibly agree more.
Gerth set the pattern that the media, in its bizarre anti-Horatio Alger frenzy, embraced, where actual facts and investigation are replaced by the "story", which is that Clinton must be destroyed.
They HAD to get Clinton, this terrible man who somehow managed to get into THEIR "right" schools and be an authentic self made American success story, unlike scion shitbird George W. Bush who does not have one single successful enterprise to his fucking name, and is a perfect example of why hereditary aristocracy does not work.
Bill Clinton is a validation of the American mythos. One that needed to be destroyed by the Inner Party by any means necessary.
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the original sin really is Jeff Gerth's first bit of journalistic fraud which was his first Whitewater piece for the Times.
An astute observation. Sadly, no wiki page on Jeff Gerth to immortalize this incompetent sack of dishonest shit and his rank deeds.
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I will never again vote for a Gooper. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican in my book.
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well...Hagel has to be better than Lieberman, no?
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All that came to an end when the Clinton witchhunt started up.
One guy I used to work with liked to listen to lush in the early ninties, when I had no idea who he was, so I obliged. It was then that he started ranting about how awful it was that clinton had just been elected. And that it was only so many years untill the election.
If I knew then what I know now...
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I will never again vote for a Gooper. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican in my book.
A-fucking-men.
The wingnut attack on Clinton and by extension the American system of government radicalized me to some extent, and the Bush 2000 election theft sent me over the edge. FUCK THE GOP.
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I'm proud to say that I've never voted for a Republican. And these past half dozen years have made me resolve to continue in that vein.
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is this the "liberal canon" post? will there be a test?
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a blogger (name escapes me) revisited the nightline treatment of the clintons. the show edited videotape testimony and inferred hillary was hiding something.
That was Jeff Greenfield.
Yeah well they took Gary Hart apart but come on, "Monkey Business"? And he wants to be President?
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"He came in here and trashed the town, and it's not his town."
-David Broder to Sally Quinn, talking about Bill Clinton.
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Renato--Donna Rice.
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Gary Hart. They took him apart first
carter.
some argue kennedy was a political hit.
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Sadly, no wiki page on Jeff Gerth to immortalize this incompetent sack of dishonest shit and his rank deeds.
Don't let me stop you.
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Roseanne Cash will always have this vague, momentary feeling of incompleteness because she hasn't met me.
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TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iranian officials said Wednesday that they have taken delivery of advanced Russian air defense missile systems - weapons intended, according to one Russian news agency, to defend Tehran's major nuclear facilities.
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nightline created a faux scandal out whole cloth.
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Nightline elected Reagan with that whole "America Held Hostage" crap.
Fuck Ted Koppel.....
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Amazing, Showtime is playing "Popi". I don't think I have seen that film since the 70s.
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The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican in my book.
Hillery = st mcstain.
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well...Hagel has to be better than Lieberman, no?
got me there.
the exception that proves the rule 
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Gary Hart. They took him apart first, because he was "weird", according to the Broders, et al.
McGovern tapped at a peacenik. Mcgovern was a WWII war hero. Flew bombing raids over Germany during the daytime. Wanted to end the Vietnam war and the press fucking crucified the guy.
fucking Nixon.
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But LarryElvis opened his eyes.
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well...Hagel has to be better than Lieberman, no?
No. So long as Lieberman caucuses with the Dems and Hagel with the GOP, I'd pick even a shitheel like Joe over Hagel every time. Fuck the GOP.
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thank you sally. I should have known that...
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Time warp time.
Phyllis Diller on Leno.
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Sadly, no wiki page on Jeff Gerth to immortalize this incompetent sack of dishonest shit and his rank deeds.
You know, uh...anybody can create a page on Wikipedia...
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Roseanne Cash will always have this vague, momentary feeling of incompleteness because she hasn't met me.
Doug
i think that you will have to fight for her with Simels, who thinks the same as you do!
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Fuck Ted Koppel.....
steve simels
And his little/big hair too!
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the original sin really is Jeff Gerth's first bit of journalistic fraud which was his first Whitewater piece for the Times
The rot goes back farther than that. The original sin was the Iran-Contra Scandal, which had its roots in Reagan and Poppy Bush bribing the Iranians to hold onto the hostages until after the 1980 election...
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Central--how the hell are you and Trout and the cats?
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I wouldn't be too hasty to fall in love with Hagel. he's right on one issue, but he's a repig, and owns voting machines. Lieberman is not a Democrat, so that is a foul, and a penalty bong. I'll be back if i can find the desk.
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Iranian officials said Wednesday that they have taken delivery of advanced Russian air defense missile systems
And the problem is?
If I was the Iranina leader, I would set up air defenses as well. Isreal and the US are just fucking itching to bomb, why would'nt they defend themselves?
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Fuck Steve Simels
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karen marie--NTodd has two Dogz. Which you could look at, if only he had a blog.
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dog poop eaters are called Coprophagia
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well i thought yall needed some really important facts
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Ridnik--I'd argue that it began with Nixon.
But I'm old.
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Koppel is buddy buddy with war criminal Henry Kissinger.
All you need to know, really, about Koppel.
May his death be painful and prolonged.
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The origins of sin 1930's:
http://www.eurolegal.org/
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Hillery = st mcstain.
smalfish
I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but that's just stupid.
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Ronjazz--a fine caveat emptor.
The other night, you mentioned that playing out was the most fun you could have standing up and legal. Is this part of your Lifetime Work Avoidance Program? Enquiring minds want to know.
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No. So long as Lieberman caucuses with the Dems and Hagel with the GOP, I'd pick even a shitheel like Joe over Hagel every time. Fuck the GOP.
The Old Man From Scene 24
and you actually think he will vote with the dems this week on the surge? Nah, he's going to be on Bush's side. We got today that Hagel wont (he's going to be a strong candidate in 08, innit)
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Gary Hart. They took him apart first, because he was "weird", according to the Broders, et al.
McGovern tapped at a peacenik. Mcgovern was a WWII war hero. Flew bombing raids over Germany during the daytime. Wanted to end the Vietnam war and the press fucking crucified the guy.
fucking Nixon.
Unrepentant Fenian
"At long last Senator, have you no sense of decency?"
I go back to Joe the First
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Yeah, Hart fucked up-- but it was the kind of thing they never seriously bothered to go after Bush I or II on, & that is the point... who's to say, if they had hacked away at George I about anything-- his "mistress", or Iran Contra, whether he would have fucked up his own act like Hart did?
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well...Hagel has to be better than Lieberman, no?
got me there.
the exception that proves the rule 
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Lieberman isn't a Democrat.
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oh that sez it!!!
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Sallyh,
We's alright.
I hope you and your's are as good.
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A history prof who is an acquaintance of mine used to tell me that fascism in the US should not come as a surprise. He argued that there's always been an undercurrent of it.
He was so right.
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Bushes and Walkers go way back to the forties, maybe earlier. Gerth's piece showed that the media had fallen to them completely, even though it was no longer liberal after 1975. It's why I can't believe anything on TV, even the Discovery Channel. Only SciFi and Spike are honest.
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Iranian officials said Wednesday that they have taken delivery of advanced Russian air defense missile systems
Was Col. North in on the deal?
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I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but that's just stupid.
Irrational maybe, but not stupid.
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Central--Chez H and its denizens are all well.
How's the Bestest Dog Ever(TM)? The cold making him crazy?
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Did anyone notice that it is now 5 minutes until midnight?
Yeah, but that's still safer than during Reagan...
NTodd, The 12th Phoebe Cates | Homepage | 01.25.07 - 12
When the attack on Iran happens, which seems to be supported by some of the Democrats, there will be a reaction that will be horrific. We cannot let this attack happen, or else there will be no United States left.
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I really would like to love HILL,but why that shitbag McCaulif...same old same old...maybe he sabotaged Kerry
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and you actually think he will vote with the dems this week on the surge? Nah, he's going to be on Bush's side. We got today that Hagel wont (he's going to be a strong candidate in 08, innit)
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It's not individual votes that matter, its that, at least for now, he's caucusing with the Dems. Which gives them control and committee chairmanships and subpoena power. Voting for even the very best Repuke imaginable would take all that away.
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"well...Hagel has to be better than Lieberman, no?
Plum P"
hagel might go independant or the thugs might just kick him out. He was scathing at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing today. Much more harsh than these TP quotes:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01...shoes%e2%80%99/
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When Roseanne Cash recorded her seminal 1990 album "Interiors" it was all about her sense of betrayal and profound loss because her husband at the time, some guy named Steve Simels, cheated on her ...
The unrecalcitrant bastard.
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Doug W--Steve Simels has too much love for just one woman.
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No. So long as Lieberman caucuses with the Dems and Hagel with the GOP, I'd pick even a shitheel like Joe over Hagel every time. Fuck the GOP.
The Old Man From Scene 24
and you actually think he will vote with the dems this week on the surge? Nah, he's going to be on Bush's side. We got today that Hagel wont (he's going to be a strong candidate in 08, innit)
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if this be the case...find me a house up there Plum
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well Hagel is obviously presenting himself as the anti McCain. Which could be a problem for the dems
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A history prof who is an acquaintance of mine used to tell me that fascism in the US should not come as a surprise. He argued that there's always been an undercurrent of it.
Goes back to the 30's, with the plot to overthrow FDR.
You had Bush and Walker types involved in that, too.
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"The last thing he wants is for the barroom to speak": - As fine and true a phrase as Theristes or anyone else ever turned.
Just for the fucking record here: ALL through the 60's, 70's, 80', 90's and now the oo's, we DIRTY FUCKING HIPPIES ceaselessly, tirelessly, and endlessly advocated for the funding, development and widespread deployment of clean, safe, renewable and sustainable independent American energy.
In fact, it was actually the ONE THING ALL DIRTY FUCKING HIPPIES STOOD FOR ABOVE ALL ELSE. The PEACE sign was first and foremost the symbol of NUCLEAR NONPROLIFERATION AND DISARMAMENT, REMEMBER????????
This RADICAL COMMIE LIBERAL PINKO FAG concept of clean independent American energy was advocated by US DIRTY FUCKING HIPPIES, because we UNDERSTOOD AS PIMPLY FACED 12-year olds that it would INSURE OUR AMERICAN LIBERTY AND FREEDOM, which is the BEST way to PEACE, our ultimate value.
This far-out crazy meshuggenah fakoct numbskull idea of CLEAN AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE is something which JUST NOW, after ALL OF THIS, is JUST STARTING to get a FEW mainstream heads scratching saying "duh, yeah, gee uh maybey that wouldn't be such a bad idear", and THAT'S because of the INSIDIOUS DEGREE to which OUR AMERICAN MEDIA was DELIBERATELY BOUGHT OFF by the vested PETROCHEMICAL AND NUCLEAR interests, who, let it never be forgotten, UNLIKE US DIRTY FUCKING HIPPIES, CONSISTENTLY PLACED THEIR IMMEDIATE "PROFIT" FAR ABOVE THEIR ACTUAL DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO THEIR COUNTRY.
So take your goddam LAPEL PINS and SIT ON THEM.
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The unrecalcitrant bastard.
Doug Watts | Homepage | 01.25.07 - 12:34 am | #
What could I do? Bitch stopped dyeing her hair Aubergine.....
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Hi Sallyh, thanks and all. Lieberman is my nightmare; i feel responsible because Ned got fucked. I hold no brief for the Dems, as i am an Ind., but Joe isn't one, period.
Playing out, is, of course, playing. Out. And if one gains remuneration for said pursuit, one need not do much in the way of work. Some might call practicing work, but it's not much different from warmups before playing baseball, another Work Avoidance Program.
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He argued that there's always been an undercurrent of it.
He was so right.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Slavery. Sedition Act. Joe McCarthy. All pretty fascist.
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I'd argue that it began with Nixon
Funny how much bad shit can be traced back to that man. He was around even before Joe McCarthy. And wasn't he also the one who first appointed Poppy as head of the RNC?
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Voting for even the very best Repuke imaginable would take all that away.
flory
so what are the dems going to deal with Liarman siding with the surge?
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01.25.07 - 12:37 am | #
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How's the Bestest Dog Ever(TM)? The cold making him crazy?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Au Contraire, he loves it!
It makes me insane, but how the hell is one supposed to fish when the lakes are frozen?
And don't be giving me any nonsense about ice fishing because I can't very well drink beer when my feet are colder than the beer.
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and you actually think he will vote with the dems this week on the surge?
Don't know (or, frankly, care how anyone votes on a non-binding issue) the key is control over the Committees and the resulting oversight etc. The Dems have that power has already paid off with Bush backing off from the warrentless spying for instance.
In the US Senate a mere majority is not enough, all the Dems (inlcuding Joe) as well as 3 or 4 Pukes voted for cloture on the minimum wage bill but that was not enough to stop debate and have a final vote.
But having the majority in the Committees makes all the difference. Without that control the anti-surge motion would never have made it to the floor. Even if Joe votes against it, as many as 9 GOpers are expected to vote for it.
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01.25.07 - 12:38 am | #
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Doug W--Steve Simels has too much love for just one woman.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 01.25.07 - 12:35 am | #
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I heard Barry White had that problem too.
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01.25.07 - 12:38 am | #
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What's a narrative?
I'm Butch |
01.25.07 - 12:38 am | #
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how come the Dem's stopped mentioning the neocons, they hit them a few times before the '06 elections, but now have gone silent.
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so what are the dems going to deal with Liarman siding with the surge?
Plum P
He's not the only one. Even Webb voted down Dodd's bill today.
Keep trying I guess.
flory |
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You people are all wrong: this goes back to when Simels and the other Jews killed Jesus.
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01.25.07 - 12:39 am | #
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The funny thing about Nixon is that he, too, was something of a Horatio Alger story come to life.
He was a "cloth coat" Republican. Not well thought of in the circles of power, until he turned out to be useful.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
01.25.07 - 12:40 am | #
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Bushes and Walkers go way back to the forties, maybe earlier.
their wealth dates back into the 19th century.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.25.07 - 12:40 am | #
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well time for bed
bonne nuit
Plum P |
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01.25.07 - 12:40 am | #
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Fuck Steve Simels
Ted Koppel | Homepage | 01.25.07 - 12:29 am | #
No, fuck YOUR Alfred E. Newman lookin self, Koppel!!!!!
You realize of course this means war!
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01.25.07 - 12:40 am | #
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"Bush backing off from the warrentless spying for instance." sorry, old man, you're hallucinating if you believe that's happening.
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At this point in time, I think our best energy alternative is nuclear energy. I know most of you don't like it, but the sad fact is, every other current technology is just another avenue to dump carbon into the atmosphere.
Untill there is another alternative, nuke energy has to be the answer. I realise there are many problems with it, but for now, it is the "cleanest" source we have.
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Bushes and Walkers go way back to the forties, maybe earlier.
their wealth dates back into the 19th century.
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that inbred shitstain is the result of this
sittenpretty ,MCI SUCKS |
01.25.07 - 12:41 am | #
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So you guys realize that a whole contingent of east coast Atriots/Atriettes are taking a bus to Saturday's big peace demo in washington. Total Ken Kesey trip.
They won't let me bring LSD, though.
steve simels |
01.25.07 - 12:42 am | #
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Or you could just write about it once, and then never bring it up again.
'Lazy Atrios'
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You people are all wrong: this goes back to when Simels and the other Jews killed Jesus.
NTodd, The 12th Phoebe Cates
Goes back to when the goddamn Celts invaded Britain and threw the Scotia out.
flory |
01.25.07 - 12:42 am | #
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Steve Simels--I'm sorry about you and Roseanne.
Would you be willing to come sit by a shiksa goddess, who will ply you with elitist Chardonnay and order Kato to make us a deli run?
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My skinny ass is hitting the sheets.
Be good moonbats.
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ps i might add im only sorry chimpy did NOT get the hemophillia
sittenpretty ,MCI SUCKS |
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has already paid off with Bush backing off from the warrentless spying for instance.
Your evidence for this is.....?
smalfish |
01.25.07 - 12:42 am | #
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Steve--they didn't say anything about condoms, did they?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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The funny thing about Nixon is that he, too, was something of a Horatio Alger story come to life.
He was a "cloth coat" Republican. Not well thought of in the circles of power, until he turned out to be useful.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
You mean the pedophile Horatio Alger that the NYC chapter of NAMBLA is named after?
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Untill there is another alternative, nuke energy has to be the answer. I realise there are many problems with it, but for now, it is the "cleanest" source we have.
smalfish
hell we could bury Ks, Wy, Mt, under solar panels...
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"Bush backing off from the warrentless spying for instance." sorry, old man, you're hallucinating if you believe that's happening.
they've backed off claiming to have the power to do it legally. I hope the relevant House and Senate Committees will provide sufficient oversight to ensure they are complying with the law.
The threat of such oversight was enough to make them do a rare public 180 on their position.
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There were Bushes and Walkers war profiteering during WWI, for sure.
I'd wager that they really got their start during the Civil War, as John D Rockefeller did.
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I personally think Bill Clinton would relish being First Lady. No, really 
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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eyes burning ...bed time ..nite,nite all
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Untill there is another alternative, nuke energy has to be the answer. I realise there are many problems with it, but for now, it is the "cleanest" source we have.
smalfish
I don't trust our race enough for that. We will never spend the money to adequately secure the spent fuel.
So you guys realize that a whole contingent of east coast Atriots/Atriettes are taking a bus to Saturday's big peace demo in washington. Total Ken Kesey trip.
They won't let me bring LSD, though.
steve simels
How would they know?
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"Bush backing off from the warrentless spying for instance."
I believe they're still engaged in it. Of course, this makes Bush all the more impeachable.
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I personally think Bill Clinton would relish being First Lady. No, really 
Imagine all the lovely parties he would throw.
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hell we could bury Ks, Wy, Mt, under solar panels...
Why stop there? Let's bury Crawford with panels.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Gunmen on Tuesday shot to death a Shiite professor and economist well-known among Iraqis for helping poor people secure loans to start small businesses, police and his university dean said.
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NO FLIRTING !!!
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this goes back to when Simels and the other Jews killed Jesus...
Rumor has it Jesus owed Simels some loaves and fishes...
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NTodd--he'd have a blast. And if he did throw parties, they'd be a hell of a lot more fun than anything LauraBot could come up with.
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smallfish, my father was a punchlist guy on nukular power plants in the '80s (plants in washington state, illinois and connecticut) and the work ethic was frightening. a good number of the workers came to work drunk regularly, plus they were running them on 80-hour work weeks to the point of exhaustion. it's a miracle there's been nothing (here) since three-mile island.
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Gore was too charismatic for the reps as well as kennedy was. with gore as with kennedy theyd have had another standard they couldnt meet. So we see loosing "frat boy" there. I dont say he doesnt meet populistic levels at all. At least we didnt hear about the small business monologue again. we heard about bio-fuel, student funding and similiar things yesterday. but these are our topics. and bush just treats them cause he has only ridden one (what is iraq). and everybody recognizes it.
In his State of the Union address last night, President Bush presented an arguably misleading and often flawed description of "the enemy" that the United States faces overseas, lumping together disparate groups with opposing ideologies to suggest that they have a single-minded focus in attacking the United States.
man thats unfair.
man know what? bush has been unfair the last 6 years. he spent 1.5 trillion for a better fahrt. he ran from a surplus into a minus and suddenly we learn about controlled spending. By 2014. and after a failed iraq war and an inclusive oil crisis we suddenly learn that 1/5th of the us´oil will be made out of corn in 2015. man hillarious.
wait there is a connection?
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Your evidence for this is.....?
They have changed their claim to have that legal power. OF course these scumbags will do it if they think they can get away with it.
My point is the threat of meaningful oversight caused them to change their claim to have power to ignore the relevant law.
With meaningful oversight it will be a lot harder for them to break the law, and these people are nothing of not incompetent.
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NO FLIRTING !!!
C. Everett Koop
Sure, but wanking is ok.
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You mean the pedophile Horatio Alger that the NYC chapter of NAMBLA is named after?
I'm Butch
The point is the mythos that any street urchin can become a solid member of society through hard work, dedication, etc.
Both Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton did that. Overcame the usual barriers to make it to the top.
Funny that only Clinton got beaten up for wrecking "our town" while Nixon actually did wreck "our town" and never got called for it by the pundits.
Which is why Broder and the Quinn whore will be among the first to be tossed into the Duck Pit.
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Old Man--fine point: they're sociopaths. Sociopaths don't concern themselves with niceties such as lawful behavior.
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Now our luck may have died and our love may be cold but with you forever I'll stay
We're goin' out where the sand's turnin' to gold so put on your stockings baby
'cause the night's getting cold
And everything dies baby that's a fact
But maybe everything that dies someday comes back
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So you guys realize that a whole contingent of east coast Atriots/Atriettes are taking a bus to Saturday's big peace demo in washington
Is there still time to get in on this? If so, how?
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key phrase: "public 180."
'nuff said.
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