I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
DESTROY!
Let the Conversation Begin!
Thank you Atrios!
Now I will make some preakfast.
Morning lovelies!
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Damn You NTodd!!!!
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shakes fist
UNE - if you weren't so inarticulate, shiftless and lazy, maybe you coulda been first... 
Tee-hee! Busted!
Ousted U.S. attorney blames policy disputes with bosses
Billy House and Dennis Wagner
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 10, 2007 12:00 AM
Former U.S. Attorney for Arizona Paul Charlton said Friday that he left office in January for "principled reasons, not performance issues," as a deputy attorney general suggested this week.
Charlton, who was one of six top federal prosecutors across the country forced to resign, said there had been "policy disputes" with his Justice Department higher-ups. Charlton spoke to The Arizona Republic on Friday in his first public comments since being asked to step down.
Although Charlton declined to elaborate, two sources said a main disagreement between Charlton and officials in Washington centered on when to seek the death penalty in federal murder cases.
As a U.S attorney, Charlton has pursed the death penalty in some cases. But his insistence on determining whether to push for capital punishment on a case-by-case basis clashed on at least two instances with a Justice Department effort to centralize decisions nationally and to seek the death penalty in a uniform way.
Charlton acknowledged that he was among the prosecutors who received a telephone call on Dec. 7 from Michael Battle, director of the Justice Department's executive office for U.S. attorneys, asking him to resign.
"I certainly was given no indication there were performance concerns," Charlton said....
Even so, Charlton said that he told Arizona GOP Sen. Jon Kyl, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, of the call and that Kyl agreed to speak to officials at the department on his behalf.
"Senator Kyl informed me that after his conversation with the Department of Justice that the department agreed they would reconsider their asking me to resign," Charlton said. But, Charlton said, "it then became apparent to me that our views had become so divergent and disparate that I would resign." "I left for principled reasons, not performance issues," said Charlton, now a partner in the firm of Gallagher and Kennedy.
'Issue of semantics'
A Justice Department official in Washington who asked not to be identified said that Charlton's distinction between policy and performance "may be an issue of semantics."
"Policy is set at a national level," the official said. "Individual U.S. attorneys around the country can't just make up their own policy agendas. Such a situation would result in chaos with 93 different U.S. attorneys implementing different policy decisions around the country. That is no way to run an organization."
Kyl, in a statement released by his office on Friday, said he had "been assured that both Attorney General (Alberto) Gonzales and Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty are grateful for Paul Charlton's five years of service, as am I."...
"but having an alternative can put the Demos over a barrel and give progressive with saavy the power to shape policy -- if it's done right.
Get it?
I didn't think so . . .
Jaded Prole | Homepage | 02.10.07 - 9:39 am | # "
That ship sailed a few elections ago. Got it?
The Nader/Titanic ticket is a loser and will hurt as badly as it did last time around and we cannot afford the Supreme Court that 'revolutionary' ticket would bring
From the link:
Just perusing Media Matters' archive of Mike Allen shows that his reporting is a trainwreck of dishonest hackery and conventional wisdom.
In other words, a fabulous media success. Nice work, if you can get it...
Apologies to Jaded Prole and everyone who may have been offended by my decent to anger. It was uncalled for, the vitriol and such.
now to chop up some taters.
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Okay, I gotta go do a post on linguistic ignorance now...
UNE - if you weren't so inarticulate, shiftless and lazy, maybe you coulda been first...
have i ever mentioned that sometimes, you tickle my funny bone?
When people spread dishonest smears, somebody has to ask them, "Who told you this."
Some reporter really has to go after these things and track them back to Rove's fax machine or wherever they come from.
I think a pattern would quickly become apparent.
offended by my decent to anger. It was uncalled for, the vitriol and such.
now to chop up some taters.
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UNE_InarticulateShiftlessLazy™
I would doubt that any of your actions were uncalled for, myself.
Except that business with the gravy, of course, that was a little offside.
Sam Seder did a show on the Obama smear. It was great. Everything from he dresses like Irans President to his middle name is the same as Saddams last name.
I heard that Barack is an East Jabippian name.
Shorter Allen:
I'm not a racist. He just doesn't respect out long held traditions.
Isn't "Bush" also a term for "pussy"?
Anger is a gift.
Hey, Smokes.
Saw your post below. Tell me again the sort of work you do? I'm gonna find you a job and get you to Noo Yawk City, where you won't be isolated (well, actually, you will still be to some extent, except that there will be 8 million people around, many with like-minded beliefs, from whom you can chose to un-isolate yourself at any one given moment).
Isn't "Bush" also a term for "pussy"?
Stinky
And Stinky is also a term for .... ?
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By the way, Jaded Prole, please don't take offense to my slight joke about the "Damn Fool vote."
Snark in the defense of sanity may not be a virtue, but it keeps me out of jail.
Anger is a gift to my blood pressure.
(Any thread where Nader gains prominence sorta sucks)
Mike Allen is, in addition to being a dishonest hack, a turd. Have you ever seen him on the chat shows? He's always sitting on the edge of his chair, eyes ablaze, trying hard not to thrust his hand into the air and say, "Oh! Oh! Oh!" like Arnold Horschack in "Welcome Back Kotter."
:::strolls in wagging his tail:::
Isn't "Bush" also a term for "pussy"?
Stinky
"Even the name 'Bush' is related to the genitals without being the genitals. A bush is a sort-of passive secondary sex characteristic. Now, if this man's name had been 'George Boner,' he might have felt a little bit better about himself, and we wouldn't have had any trouble over there in the first place!"
-- George Carlin
msgop's idea of political coverage is like a lame high school debate society where no facts are necessary
Apologies to Jaded Prole and everyone who may have been offended by my decent to anger. It was uncalled for, the vitriol and such.
No need to apologize to me. You saved me the trouble of typing the same words. Thank you.
And Stinky is also a term for .... ?
Stinky. It's a name that doesn't really have any symbolic meanings, at least none I'm aware of.
Anger is a gift. Rage against the machine.
Mike Allen is, in addition to being a dishonest hack, a turd.
heh. I found the boy's picture on the innertubes. If I had a dog what looked like that I'd shave its ass and make it walk backward.
The first person I heard of named Barak was the father of Paul Newman's character in the movie "Exodus". He was played by Lee J. Cobb.
They fear Obama.
Anger is a gift to my blood pressure.
"your anger is delicious."
Murtha asking for hearings on the use of military aircraft for congressional and executive travel is fucking awesome. We need to send a message that unrestrained Swift Boating will not be tolerated, and well in advance of the 2008 elections.
msgop's idea of political coverage is like a lame high school debate society where no facts are necessary...and then there's "Anderson Cooper, I'm Pretty"
Just a moment:
America is not ready for a progressive candidate with reasonable policies?
I think we are. The problem is, as always, in how to present the problem. Those who fear the people are very good - nay, excellent - at fear-mongering lying. The truth is so separated from their words as to be a joke: but by playing on people's fears they managed to taint any message that offers an alternative.
But time after time when asked: Americans prefer progressive positions. They want good schools. They want health care for all. They want college to be affordable for all. They don't like the war. and on and on.
But as long as the corporate media and its stooges continue the lying and denigrating I do not see any hope of change.
so far, my favorite mike allen spin is a comment he made on countdown re bush's disengaged katrina briefing. allen had a completely new interpretation:
"On the question of whether—of the U.S. push to arrest everybody, we‘re told that from the very beginning, you know, Keith, on your air, you showed the video of the president with his Katrina briefings, internalizing them, not asking questions."
allen is such a tool.
I think a pattern would quickly become apparent.
Essjay
the sock puppet media doesn't care when they caught spreading gooper lies --in fact they are proud
NASA woman, Allen, Democrats, Rosie/Trump, Hillary/Barack, global warming, Iraq War, all distractions. As the mass media creates illusions, Big Brother clamps down by opening our mail, suspending habeas corpus, stealing private lands, banning books like "America Deceived" from Amazon,America Deceived (book) rigging elections, conducting warrantless wiretaps and starting wars based on blatant lies. Soon, the sinking of an Aircraft Carrier(by Mossad) will occur and the US will 'retaliate' against Iran. Which AIPAC-lobbying country benefit's from that?
Murtha asking for hearings on the use of military aircraft for congressional and executive travel is fucking awesome. We need to send a message that unrestrained Swift Boating will not be tolerated, and well in advance of the 2008 elections.
Dr. Wu | 02.10.07 - 10:04 am | #
Good. I think a pissed off Democrat is a Democrat that get things rolling.
Terrific baking powder biscuit receipt.
Thanks Shouty, Troutski, Smokes.
Taters are boilin', bacon is frying and kent just got baked.
GWPDA, yclept Shouty-Crackers | Homepage
chilling
watching this black forum made me wonder what's happened to carole simpson? does she still anchor abc news? last time i saw her, she was critical of bush and the way he was elected.
But as long as the corporate media and its stooges continue the lying and denigrating I do not see any hope of change.
We need to keep fighting back. And hearings, lots of hearings, in the next 2 years.
How many young servicepeople's lives will be thrown away to start Chimpy's Second Vanity Crusade?
not you as the chilling, GWPDA, but what you quoted above
Who is Mike Allen, and why is anything he says or writes of any importance to anyone?
i'm serious...
whodafuck is mike allen? have you ever seen his by-line outside the beltway?
seems an utter cypher to me...
How many young servicepeople's lives will be thrown away to start Chimpy's Second Vanity Crusade?
How many you got?
Murtha asking for hearings on the use of military aircraft for congressional and executive travel is fucking awesome.
somebody on air america noted there is evidence of improper use.
Come on!
The militant poet in once again, check it
It's set up like a deck of cards
They're sending us to early graves
For all the diamonds
They'll use a pair of clubs to beat the spades
With poetry I paint the pictures that hit
More like the murals that fit
Don't turn away
Get in front of it
Spoken quietly: "Anger is a gift"
Tucker's drunk the "Nancy's Plane" Kool-Aid 6 ways to Sunday.
interestingly, Mike Allen's name means different things depending on what language it's spoken in. Fr'instance, in Swedish, "Michael Allen" translate directly into "No principles", while in Dutch it means "Talentless Hack". In Russian and English, it means "yellow journalism".
Obama is the one who needs to be taking it to these hacks. Have his campaign keep a list of this kind of crap, and force a discussion of it every time the offending media outlet wants an interview or asks a question. Send the message that press units which are overtly hostile to Obama and which engage in blatant GOP whoring will be treated as the hostile forces they are.
remember when mccain attacked obama out of the blue for no reason? obama's response was meek.
I need to make those biscuits. Just happen to have some chopped chives from my garden in the freezer, which I'm sure will be as good as fresh.
Send the message that press units which are overtly hostile to Obama and which engage in blatant GOP whoring will be treated as the hostile forces they are.
Blackmail by Sanctimony, huh?
Boy, there are a lot of good people in this unknown AMC western. Richard Widmark, Henry Fonda, half a dozen character actors (A level). Anthony Quinn? Wha???
GOD BOY PITCHER JOHN SMOLTZ GETTING A DIVORCE
You know, the asshole at the "Faith Nights"
Biscuits with chopped chives and Parmesan would be tasty, too.
But as long as the corporate media and its stooges continue the lying and denigrating I do not see any hope of change.
We need to keep fighting back. And hearings, lots of hearings, in the next 2 years.
Karin | 02.10.07 - 10:07 am | #
Karens absolutely correct because even with that same corporate controlled media the word has gotten out. The last election shows that. The marches before the iraq invasion show that. The skeptisim about Iran threat show that. We just can't expect that same corporate control media to reflect that.
People see our media as the joke that it is.
Gonna try to make some music.
Y'all take care of your good selves, and remember that a black man by any other name looks like Willie Horton to the country-club Republicans.
It's curious just how ineffectual Jon Kyl was to his state's legal authority....
Even more curious that Charleston went to Kyl rather than McCain.
Even more, now, that the newly appointed US Attorney is a Hopi....
Ooooooh, there's lots of meat on this bone.
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That biscuit recipe resembles my husband's, except he substitutes buttermilk mixed with 1/8 tsp. of soda for the milk.
Mike Allen--irresponsible and lazy or detestable scumbag?
mer, it's pretty much the same chemical interaction - the biscuits would turn out well either way.
Mike Allen--irresponsible and lazy or detestable scumbag?
Yes.
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The lemon thyme we commonly see here is variegated, with yellow in the middle of the tiny leaves. Excellent for the front of the sunny border or as edging.
Penultimate!
There, I used it.
The solution to Mike Allen is to just pat him on the top of his bald head like Benny Hill used to do to the old guy till he goes away.
I think that should read: Moron Allen
Just saw a Pharma add for "NOT" fixing Medicare Part D plan.
Qouted The Wall Street Journal that Medicare Part D is really helping seniors.
BWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
But as long as the corporate media and its stooges continue the lying and denigrating I do not see any hope of change.
We need to keep fighting back. And hearings, lots of hearings, in the next 2 years.
Karin |
Perhaps hearings on journalist shield laws where we can discuss in detail how the Russert's don't deserve a shield from the public and the law since the Russerts prefer to shield their paymasters than report the truth.
Must be mid-winter. Thoughts of plant-pr0n bubbling up.
I watched part of an appropriations hearing yesterday and Murtha was truly impressive. Very down-to-business, refreshingly so.
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"Christopher" is on with Sewing With Nancy on PBS. He's a "fabric artist" and he specializes in makikng designer pillows...
Oh, darn.
Lying Lieberhack Dar Gerstein dislikes the Edwards bloggers.
Must be mid-winter. Thoughts of plant-pr0n bubbling up.
plantsman, lowercase
We are so predictible....
Look at her.
That's "Dan" Gerstein of course.
Those Big Pharma "Don't Change" ads are in heavy rotation, yet unconvincing.
fuck em with a red hot poker.
"The Administration tries to run out the clock on congressional oversight:
The Justice Department, which serves as legal counsel in court proceedings for other departments, has repeatedly gone beyond merely protecting its own actions from scrutiny. Even when Congress was in Republican hands, Justice Department officials advised other government departments on how to stonewall congressional review. These efforts now appear to be ramping up.
The Justice Department Legal Counsel's office recently held meetings with lawyers of other departments to discuss strategy for responding to congressional requests for documents and hearing appearances. In January, Senator Grassley charged at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that the DOJ has started running training "events" for other offices of the executive branch, teaching them how to handle congressional inquiries and hearings. Grassley's office says they were tipped off to this by someone in the Justice Department worried about this new program.
23 1/2 months to go . . ."
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
fuck em with a red hot poker.
"The Administration tries to run out the clock on congressional oversight:
The Justice Department, which serves as legal counsel in court proceedings for other departments, has repeatedly gone beyond merely protecting its own actions from scrutiny. Even when Congress was in Republican hands, Justice Department officials advised other government departments on how to stonewall congressional review. These efforts now appear to be ramping up.
The Justice Department Legal Counsel's office recently held meetings with lawyers of other departments to discuss strategy for responding to congressional requests for documents and hearing appearances. In January, Senator Grassley charged at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that the DOJ has started running training "events" for other offices of the executive branch, teaching them how to handle congressional inquiries and hearings. Grassley's office says they were tipped off to this by someone in the Justice Department worried about this new program.
23 1/2 months to go . . ."
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Something Atrios won't link to about this story...
Any Democrat is better than any Republican and we need to fight back against unfair attacks on any Democratic candidate and then let the primaries do the job.
We don't want a Steve Westly situation where there is a bitter primary and then the loser sits on his fat ass and lets the gooper win
Westly a fake Democrat with no future in California
May I butt in and say that condoms do so save lives. Wankers.
Sheesh. It's not like he PICKED his name, people.
Grow up.
i see nader has been mentioned. he was just on democracy now, still laboring under the delusion that he didn't cost gore the presidency. and the new book nader's peddling, the concepts sounds like it was borrowed from another author who writes about hierarchies in culture and how it contributes to things like bullying and misogyny.
Lying Lieberhack Dar Gerstein dislikes the Edwards bloggers.
Molly Ivors, 100 a day!
He's what you'd expect from a Lieberwhore adviser. Never once during the entire segment did he raise the issue of the trash spewed out by wingnut bloggers. In fact, he mentioned Fat Sludge as if he were a respectable source.
Nader is yesterday's Corvair.
Gah, I can't take another "Why has Atrios accepted this ad?!?" outrage. I'm going to take my 175 children, plus some of their friends, to a science museum to play. So there.
BTW, Mike Allen was one of the reporters who played along with the White House on the "plastic turkey" joyride to Iraq. Instead of being a real reporter and reporting when he heard Bush was going.
"tongue in cheek" is underappreciated. Enjoy the museum!
Murtha asking for hearings on the use of military aircraft for congressional and executive travel ..
hopefully will present the RNC with one mega bill to reimburse the treasury.
So, did they fly Hastert around in one of those moose slings, or what?
I'm going to take my 175 children, plus some of their friends, to a science museum to play. So there.
Molly Ivors, 100 a day!
fun!
isn't there a children's story whose plot starts out like this?
Reading between the lines of the NYT frontpage story about bombs used by Iraqi insurgents originating in Iran...it seems that the US has been interrogating those Iranian diplomats they kidnapped from the embassy last month. Sort of a bad precedent, isn't it?
MI -
Read what Lieberwhore's spokespimp said. He, along with his unctuous boss, needs to take a long walk off a short pier.
Lieberputz is burning bridges like there's no tomorrow. He'll regret this soon enough.
Something Atrios won't link to about this story...
NTodd, Sex Panther
You need to start a blog and then put it on it.
Just like the guy you linked to.
Sorry I disturbed you. I didn't say he shouldn't accept the ad, though. Just that condoms do so save lives, rather than they don't. Will you be OK?
interestingly, Mike Allen's name means different things depending on what language it's spoken in.
*heh,
All DEMS All the time...
It is hard to favor caution about even recent GOPers, like Wes Clark, Jim Webb.
ql in ny
You are the best!
Will you be OK?
I'm fine. Click the link.
Murtha asking for hearings on the use of military aircraft for congressional and executive travel ..
Hope he gets manifests of who all was on board those flights, too.
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Yes, we will. We already knew that; thanks for your concern.
Hope he gets manifests of who all was on board those flights, too.
Noice! I like the way you think!
Look at her.
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who? the sewing lady?
it's curious george on pbs for me right now.
Obama's already raised $21 MILLION
ken silverstein, Harper's DC editor, sez that, in fact, obama hasn't been questioned at all about the names of those to whom he has now become so extensivley beholden...
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Reading between the lines of the NYT frontpage story about bombs used by Iraqi insurgents originating in Iran...it seems that the US has been interrogating those Iranian diplomats they kidnapped from the embassy last month. Sort of a bad precedent, isn't it?
Karin |
The first time I remember the story getting peddled about Iranians feeding bombs in to Iraq was right before those British agents got stopped driving around Basra, taken to jail, and busted out of jail by British armour knocking down the jailhouse walls.
The ad was actually run by the Catholic League in the New York subways in 1994.
The ad was actually run by the Catholic League in the New York subways in 1994.
At which point all thinking people knew it was bullshit.
But this is not that.
Nice.
Now here's a site that will do justice when it comes to Obama coverage.
"Christians for Social Justice: Black Leader Launches ObamaNation.Com to Expose Sen. Obama
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Feb. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by Christians for Social Justice:
In anticipation of the Feb. 10 announcement in Springfield, Ill. that Sen. Barack Hussein Obama will run to become president of the United
States, Christians for Social Justice has launched ObamaNation.Com (http://obamanation.com/), a website exposing the hypocrisy of Obama on the greatest moral issues of our time -- abortion and homosexual unions."
http://www.prnewswire.com/usnewswire/
who? the sewing lady?
No, Christopher.
According to the latest New Yorker, Lieberman read Mark Steyn's "America Alone" and really liked it. The book argues Europe is succumbing demographically and culturally to Islam.
Isn't this the oldest racist argument in history?
abortion and homosexual unions.
I didn't even know they had unions!
Sons of bitches -
SAN FRANCISCO
Nobelist Wiesel accosted at hotel
Matthai Chakko Kuruvila, SF Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, February 10, 2007
Elie Wiesel, the renowned Holocaust author and Nobel Peac...
Elie Wiesel, the renowned Holocaust author and Nobel Peace Prize winner, was attacked and dragged out of a San Francisco hotel elevator last week, possibly by a Holocaust denier who claims to have stalked Wiesel for weeks, police said Friday.
Wiesel, 78, was at the Argent Hotel on Feb. 1 for an interfaith conference when he was confronted around 6:30 p.m. in an elevator by a man insisting that he wanted to interview the author, said police spokesman Sgt. Neville Gittens.
Wiesel said he would do the interview in the lobby of the Third Street hotel, but the man insisted on going to Wiesel's room. The man then stopped the elevator at the sixth floor, dragged Wiesel out and tried to force him into a room on that floor.
"That's when (Wiesel) started yelling," Gittens said. The man fled, and Wiesel went down to the lobby and called police.
Wiesel was not injured. He decided to leave the conference on "Facing Violence: Justice, Religion and Conflict Resolution," and police escorted him to the airport.
On Tuesday, a man identifying himself Eric Hunt and claiming to be the attacker posted an account of the incident on a virulently anti-Semitic and anti-Israel Web site. The account matches the description of the attack that police later released.
"After ensuring no women would be traumatized by what I had to do (I had been trailing Wiesel for weeks), I stopped the elevator at the sixth floor," Hunt wrote. "I said I wanted to interview him. He protested, grabbed at his chest as if he was having a heart attack. He then screamed HELP! HELP! at the top of his lungs.
"I told him, 'Why, you don't want people to know the truth?' " Hunt wrote. "After pulling him about fifteen feet out of the elevator ... I decided that it was time for me to go."
Gittens said that police were aware of the Web site and that they had a suspect in mind, but would not confirm that they were looking for the person who posted the account online.
"We're not commenting on statements made on the Web site," Gittens said.
The site has articles on a number of topics, some of which repeat centuries-old slurs against Jews. It is registered to Andrew Winkler of Sydney, who also writes on the site. Phone calls and an e-mail to Winkler were not returned Friday.....
I see the add by the Catholic League as a ironic joke.
Millions infected by AIDS in Africa and thousands dying each day but the Catholic Church will not allow priests and bishops in Africa to even talk about condoms.
It is a travesty. It is crimimal.
I'm a Roman Catholic and I find it hard to agree with the church on matters like birth control and womens role in the church.
Homosexual Unions! They're organizing?
CSPAN just flashed that they will be leaving their live coverage of the Black America forum at 11 AM to cover the Obama press conference.
Reading between the lines of the NYT frontpage story about bombs used by Iraqi insurgents originating in Iran
a general has been asked before if he had any evidence to show that ieds originated from iran. the general admitted he had none.
it seems that the US has been interrogating those Iranian diplomats they kidnapped from the embassy last month. Sort of a bad precedent, isn't it?
Not if your policy is to gratuitously provoke and instigate hostile incidents with the aim of accidently-on-purpose provoking war. Then you have a fait accompli which will entitle you to another blank check from Congress-- 0% financing, albeit with much frowning, harrumphing, and oversight committees to be convened some months later.
In Berlin in 1980, if you wanted fresh produce and liveliness, you went to the Turkish Quarter near the
Wall. Turks could stay and work, but neither they nor their children born in Germany could become citizens. This problen has old roots.
Morning Batties.
JPII,
My close friend in the UK is very very concerned about the influence of immigrants on what it means to be,"British."
I listen to her talk about being English and sort of laugh but then she explains that in certain segments of the UK they Muslim population actually is nearly as large as the non-Muslim population.
When two societies come into a fundamental conflict there is bound to be some friction.
I am not sure what the upshot of this post is . . . .
Obama's speech is gonna rock the hizzy.
Eeuuww. That Candy person is covering Obama's speech in Springfield. C-SPAN here I come . ..
Molly - my response to your comment:
No speaking of country matters here, please. I don't run a nunnery...
When two societies come into a fundamental conflict there is bound to be some friction.
Pretty much the way we Old Ones in the Southwest feel about Midwesterners....
Only partially in jest, alas.
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The tolerant will ALWAYS be defeated by the intolerant...
just sayin...
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No, Christopher.
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is this the same christopher on the discovery channel doing an interior design show?
Then you have a fait accompli which will entitle you to another blank check from Congress-- 0% financing, albeit with much frowning, harrumphing, and oversight committees to be convened some months later.
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I feel confident that the pollwind fingers point away from that neocon cake walk.
Morning, Tena; still cold?
"Putin: US seeking to control world
Putin: People who teach us democracy don't
want to learn it themselves [AFP]
Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, has harshly criticised the US for what he said was an attempt to force its will on the rest of the world.
"What is a unipolar world? No matter how we beautify this term it means one single centre of power, one single centre of force and one single master," he said to an annual gathering of top security and defence officials in Munich, Germany, on Saturday.
"It has nothing in common with democracy because that is the opinion of the majority taking into account the minority opinion," Putin said.
"People are always teaching us democracy but the people who teach us democracy don't want to learn it themselves.""
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...9921F99924C.htm
You mean, Lump O'Candy?
In Berlin in 1980, if you wanted fresh produce and liveliness, you went to the Turkish Quarter near the
Wall. Turks could stay and work, but neither they nor their children born in Germany could become citizens. This problen has old roots.
I think they may have changed that recently? But my father, who was born in Germany in 1913, and is as Aryan as they come, was never a German citizen because his father's citizenship was revoked when he dodged the draft in WWI by running away to Czechozslovakia. So my father's identity papers said "Staatenlos" (stateless)
Allen is on CNN right now regurgitating this nonsense.
"Iran turns up the heat on gas
Iran's drive for energy cooperation with its South Asian neighbors and China, and its proposal to Russia to develop a cooperative grid of gas-producing countries, is a defining moment for energy politics in Eurasia. It is also a defining moment for the world order, with the European Union having to rethink imposing unilateral sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program. - M K Bhadrakumar (Feb 9, '07)"
http://www.atimes.com/
Baldy is on CNN now.
Cornell West going to speak on cspan.
I am not sure what the upshot of this post is . . . .
DWD - Dirty Fucking Hippy |
That the Torys spent 10 years fighting with the British National Party for the bigot vote.
And that England left their Hong Kong Gurkhas as stateless for 10 years instead of providing the Queen's soldiers with British citizenship.
"If Iran escalates its military action in Iraq to the detriment of our troops and/or innocent Iraqi people, we will respond firmly"
George Bush, in a recent interview with National Public Radio
Today's NYT:
In interviews, civilian and military officials from a broad range of government agencies provided specific details to support what until now has been a more generally worded claim, in a new National Intelligence Estimate, thatIran is providing "lethal support" to Shiite militants in Iraq.
Today's Guardian:
Colonel Sam Gardiner, a former air force officer who has carried out war games with Iran as the target, supported the view that planning for an air strike was under way: "Gates said there is no planning for war. We know this is not true. He possibly meant there is no plan for an immediate strike. It was sloppy wording.
"All the moves being made over the last few weeks are consistent with what you would do if you were going to do an air strike. We have to throw away the notion the US could not do it because it is too tied up in Iraq. It is an air operation."
When does 2+2 not = 4? Just sayin...
plantsman - cold, but not freezing.
It's about 42.
Woody - the intolerant do not always defeat the tolerant.
The world moves towards more tolerance as the world grows more familiar and hetergenous, which it does, steadily.
What's going on now is one of those backlashes that tend to hit when a certain level of tolerance has been reached.
is this the same christopher on the discovery channel doing an interior design show?
jello
I'm not sure. I'm trying to find out some more information about her and some of those designer pillows. They were really amazing.
Also, in the New Yorker story when Lieberman goes to see the film "Behind Enemy Lines" in which Owen Wilson is shot down over Bosnia:
"Whenever the American military scored an onscreen hit, Lieberman pumped his fist and said, "Yeah!" and "All right." "
CNN got the black interviewer to ask baldy the leading question: When are they going to stop treating Obama like a rock star and ask critical questions about his candidacy.
The world moves towards more tolerance as the world grows more familiar and hetergenous, which it does, steadily.
Hegelian dialectic, bitches!
Cornell West going to speak on cspan.
Unrepentant Fenian
*
I wish I got that C-Span chanel
The tolerant will ALWAYS be defeated by the intolerant...
fdr? gandhi?
Lieberman pumped his fist and said, "Yeah!" and "All right." "
He's pining for tin soldier status, innit? He's never been in the military, has he.
What a weird ass little man.
Hegelian dialectic, bitches!
NTodd, Sex Panther
Too early, noooooooooooooooooooooo!
I got a 5-year "Arbeitserlaubnis" (Work permit) in Berlin, just like that. I'm blond, sort of. My dark-haired lover got an 18-month work permit.
It was sloppy wording.
It was deliberate obfuscation.
Hegelian dialectic, bitches!
NTodd, Sex Panther
Boy it's been one hell of a long time since I read Hegel.
CNN got the black interviewer to ask baldy the leading question: When are they going to stop treating Obama like a rock star and ask critical questions about his candidacy.
Why won't the queers apologize for Obama's name?
I don't see Baldy on CNN, all I see is ANS.
"Whenever the American military scored an onscreen hit, Lieberman pumped his fist and said, "Yeah!" and "All right." "
JPII
is lieberman now overcompensating for having been bullied as a child?
These people are like the sharks in "Old Man and the Sea."
Why cain't Chuck spell his name right?
Does Mike Allen take milque with his toast?
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Wingnuts getting no joy out of CSPAN all day today.
We didden do it.
Dinesh D'Loser on C-SPAN 2 talking about an "indignation gap"--read: Dems are more upset about the chimp than they are about "our enemies."
The Chimp is our enemy.
wel, well, well....so our furry little friend Barak O(s/b)ama has been covering up that his first name is arabic, not african at all...
Anyone check if this guy was ever enrolled in a flight school anywhere?
Omygawd, Disousa's study is on Cspan and THE WALL TO WALL FAKE LEOPARDSKIN RUG!!!!!
Dinesh D'Loser on C-SPAN 2 talking about an "indignation gap"--read: Dems are more upset about the chimp than they are about "our enemies."
JT
I wish I had words to express how fucking sick to death I am of Dinesh fucking D'Souza. What a freak.
They just showed the Dinesh mansion. Yeah, being a corporate suckup does have its advantages.
Dinesh D'Loser on C-SPAN 2 talking about an "indignation gap"--read: Dems are more upset about the chimp than they are about "our enemies."
JT
Guilty as hell and proud of it. In this instance he may be correct. I HATE the Chimp and all of his fucking TOADIES in the press.
He is an abomination. A pathetic excuse for both a human being and a man. Vindictive, stupid, insensitive, warmonger, hate-filled vessel of sputum . . . .
They just showed the Dinesh mansion. Yeah, being a corporate suckup does have its advantages.
JT |
Which is why the wingnut welfare crowd goes in to hyper action when you start getting between them and their cheetohs.
THE WALL TO WALL FAKE LEOPARDSKIN RUG!!!!!
let's hope it's fake.
OMG. Dinesh's editor, whom he calls his co-conspirator, is Saul Bellow's son.
Yeah, being a corporate suckup does have its advantages.
Perhaps, but having a library on "permanent safari" is not one of them.
wel, well, well....so our furry little friend Barak O(s/b)ama has been covering up that his first name is arabic, not african at all...
This has got to be parody, right?
Wingnuts getting no joy out of CSPAN all day today.
Karin
How come, Karin?
Dinesh is an awful foreign sounding name too. Mighty suspicious. And he's wearing an open shirt, no tie.
Hmm.
Omygawd, Disousa's study is on Cspan and THE WALL TO WALL FAKE LEOPARDSKIN RUG!!!!!
It's actually real leprechaun skin.
Guilty as hell and proud of it. In this instance he may be correct. I HATE the Chimp and all of his fucking TOADIES in the press.
He is an abomination. A pathetic excuse for both a human being and a man. Vindictive, stupid, insensitive, warmonger, hate-filled vessel of sputum . . . .
Being guilty of treason would make him one of our enemies, no? A fifth columnist is worse than an outside enemy.
Hey everyone, noticed that Luckovich and Toles have similar things on their (brilliant) minds.
wel, well, well....so our furry little friend Barak O(s/b)ama has been covering up that his first name is arabic, not african at all...
A) have you seen JPod's shoulders? And
B) it's both.
Being guilty of treason would make him one of our enemies, no? A fifth columnist is worse than an outside enemy.
J
Particularly when our "outside enemies" are the same threat to us that fucking meteorites are.
The terrorists are all in DC.
Omygawd, Disousa's study is on Cspan and THE WALL TO WALL FAKE LEOPARDSKIN RUG!!!!!
GWPDA, yclept Shouty-Crackers
That's class.
How come, Karin?
Tena, this Black America forum is on CSPAN all day, panel with Tavis Smiley, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson,etc. They are moving it to CSPAN2 when the Obama press conference starts on CSPAN1.
Deforrest Kelly in this movie!
What the hell is this movie?
Oh, sorry maybe not. Dinesh is still on CSPAN2.
How come, Karin?
Tena, this Black America forum is on CSPAN all day, panel with Tavis Smiley, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson,etc. They are moving it to CSPAN2 when the Obama press conference starts on CSPAN1.
Karin
Ah - thanks for answering, Karin.
Dinesh thinks he's working in the same genre as Richard Dawkins.
They just showed the Dinesh mansion. Yeah, being a corporate suckup does have its advantages.
JT
I'd rather sleep at night knowing I wasn't responsible for over 600,000 deaths. Thank you very much.
Particularly when our "outside enemies" are the same threat to us that fucking meteorites are.
We're coming for your women.
Mike Allen is CNN's go-to guy for coverage of Obama this morning.
"I'm a simple country doctor, Jim" ?
Nancy She's a really interesting woman. Very poised. I've occasionally watched her off and on for years on PBS, Nancy's Notions and now Sewing with Nancy. It's nice on a Saturday morning with her sewing in the background while I clean or something. She may have had a stroke at one time because there's some problem with her face.
C-Span will cut away to Obama's announcement at 11 EST. But the black forum will continue at cspan.org.
You want parody? I'll give you parody.
Kit Bond (R-MO), taking to the Senate floor on Tuesday:
"I have also heard in the Senate a number of comments from Members who do not support a cut-and-run policy. I have addressed previously the disaster of an immediate withdrawal from Iraq."
"The primary beneficiary of that chaos would be al-Qaida. Osama bin Laden and Al-Jazeera have said how important it was for them to establish Iraq as their main base of operations. To send a message by adopting a resolution that says we oppose the President's plan, implementation of his plan, is not going to change sending more American troops there.
"But it will tell al-Qaida: Good news, boys, the Congress is opposing the President. Our chances look better to take over the country."
Nancy's website:
https://www.nancysnotions.com/NNV...omPages/
swn.htm
We're coming for your women.
Fucking meteorites
That might be ok - how good looking are you fucking meteorites?
The terrorists are all in DC.
Tena
Word.
Why does Bush let Pakistan and Saudi Arabia harbor the real Terrorists?
Everyone in the world knows Bin Laden is in Pakistan and we leave him alone because we are respecting Pakistan's border?
When has Bush respected anything in his pathetic life?
Great Luckovich cartoon.
remember when mccain attacked obama out of the blue for no reason? obama's response was meek.
I thought it was just right. He came out the winner.
Kit Bond does not know the ME. The MO, mebbe.
C-Span will cut away to Obama's announcement at 11 EST. But the black forum will continue at cspan.org.
Lindsay
Cornell West will be on at noon or so. Love to hear his speak.
Everyone in the world knows Bin Laden is in Pakistan and we leave him alone because we are respecting Pakistan's border?
No, because war with Pakistan would also be stupid.
cspan, the other day, had somebody from the weekly standard being complimentary of obama.
Osama bin Laden and Al-Jazeera have said how important it was for them to establish Iraq as their main base of operations. To send a message by adopting a resolution that says we oppose the President's plan, implementation of his plan, is not going to change sending more American troops there.
"But it will tell al-Qaida: Good news, boys, the Congress is opposing the President. Our chances look better to take over the country."
Boy members of the Republic Party sure spend a lot of time
1) Listening to what a bunch of murderous crackpots say and taking them at their word;
2) Worry about what "message" we are sending to these same murderous crackpots.
Dinesh D'Loser on C-SPAN 2 talking about an "indignation gap"--read: Dems are more upset about the chimp than they are about "our enemies."
Perhaps it's a question of "the devil you know".
Why all federal funding of "abstinence only" education should be pulled immediately:
Gum sharing disgusts Montgomery parents, officials
Excerpt from Washington Post article
...To demonstrate how sexually transmitted diseases are spread, a visiting speaker invited students to share gum in health classes at four county high schools in December and last month. School officials said a total of about 100 students participated in the lessons, although some declined to chew the gum.
Education and health officials say the gum exercise was unsanitary and should not have happened. The speaker and the clinic, a pregnancy counseling center with a religious orientation, are no longer welcome in Montgomery schools, school officials said.
...the speaker also asked for volunteers to sample squares of chocolate, one of which, they were told, was actually a laxative. The point was to illustrate the uncertainty of knowing whether one has contracted an STD after a sexual encounter. Four boys volunteered, she said.
From he?!!! tsk tsk tsk. It's "from him". And you just triggered a pet peave rant. Sorry, I just can't help myself.
Everybody: It's "between me and X" or "between X and me", Not "between X and I". I don't mind bad grammar AT ALL. But I can't stand bad grammar that is even slightly pretentious. Using "whom" when "who" is correct, and using the subjective form of a pronoun when the objective is correct does not sound edumacated or even "polite", unless polite means patronizing in your world.
That is all.
worrying
Hmm. Blue moons unpossible except in leap Februarys, so that can't be it.
No, because war with Pakistan would also be stupid.
plantsman
Well yeah - they are supposedly our allies. Basically, however, it makes no sense if Coocoo is going to have his crusade against Muslims to just pick out certain countries to hate on.
OT: Ian Richardson is dead.
This is a blow for connoisseurs of screen villains the world over.
I really should go prune the roses.
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Mike Allen is CNN's go-to guy for coverage of Obama this morning.
Culture of TrÜth
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yeesh! don't they read the blogs?
I boycotted CNN a few months ago anyway.
But I can't stand bad grammar that is even slightly pretentious. Using "whom" when "who" is correct
Whom you talking to?
They're like Tiffany pillows
https://www.nancysnotions.com/NNV...le=&
newWindow=Y
I really should go prune the roses.
I really should, too. Oh, that's not a euphemism?
I really should go prune the roses.
.
GWPDA
[swear words here]
Dinesh D'Loser on C-SPAN 2 talking about an "indignation gap"--read: Dems are more upset about the chimp than they are about "our enemies."
While he dedicates an entire book to - yep - criticizing fellow Americans for 9/11 instead of, of course, the people who did it.
I also think putting Pakistan's and India's nukes into possible play without great reason not smart.
I love pruning roses. Used to be okay at it.
OT: Ian Richardson is dead.
This is a blow for connoisseurs of screen villains the world over.
R. McGeddon
Yeah, it is. This is a celebrity death I feel a little bad about- he was really good at what he did.
Well, I could prune the fucking roses too but it would necessitate shoveling the pile of snow they are buried under. . . .
Come to think of it, nah. Let's have another cup of coffee instead.
Roses require two prunings a year for good blooming - the first, in September, should be the hardest. The second, in February, is called a 'half prune' and effectively eliminates any winter-damaged foliage, cleans the shape of the bush and ensures that any disease is treated.
< / rosarian >
What Moe said. Roses, quotha!
Gee, that sounds nice. I should go out in the garden and see if any of the roses are budding yet. It's only -28C, a lot of the hardier roses like that weather.
No, because war with Pakistan would also be stupid.
plantsman, lowercase
I'm not talking War the Pakistan I'm talking about getting Bin Laden. Tell Musharraf to get Bin Laden or the gravy train of Billions of aid to his nation is over.
This is a celebrity death I feel a little bad about- he was really good at what he did.
ANS was good at being a floozy. We all have talents...
Rosarian in central AZ desert, I might add.
Dinesh D'Loser on C-SPAN 2 talking about an "indignation gap"--read: Dems are more upset about the chimp than they are about "our enemies."
that reads so 1930s.
I need to go outside and look at the flying pigs. The WaPo's front page article on Iran is much better than the one in the NYT.
The administration's planned diplomatic offensive is part of an effort to pressure Tehran from multiple directions. Bush has given the U.S. military the authority to kill or capture Iranian government agents working with Shiite militias inside Iraq. Yesterday, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said serial numbers and markings on some explosives used in Iraq indicate that the material came from Iran, but he offered no evidence.
See how we've progressed? An assertion by a Sec. of Def. is not considered to be any kind of evidence.
Roses require two prunings a year for good blooming - the first, in September, should be the hardest. The second, in February, is called a 'half prune' and effectively eliminates any winter-damaged foliage, cleans the shape of the bush and ensures that any disease is treated.
< / rosarian >
GWPDA,
I always understood that one needed to wait until after the last frost. I imagine you are safe there - but we tend to get a freeze or two in March.
Roses require two prunings a year for good blooming -
Feh, it's 18 degrees here.
"But it will tell al-Qaida: Good news, boys, the Congress is opposing the President. Our chances look better to take over the country."
And he's a US senator. OMFG.
The stupid, it burns.
Roses do exceptionally well in Phoenix, since there is no threat of the usual fungus disease there, the soil is seldom too rich and the rose itself is a drought resistant cultivar.
Yesterday, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said serial numbers and markings on some explosives used in Iraq indicate that the material came from Iran, but he offered no evidence.
Why is that not suprising?
Fenian, if Musharraf did that his life wouldn't last very long. Either coup or asassination.
Distort D’Newsa
ANS was good at being a floozy. We all have talents...
NTodd
She had two, possible three talents.
And being a bimbo is not that difficult.
I'm not going to be nice about her.
o haloscan - what do you mean, wait? I haven't posted anything for a number of minutes - don't give me that "wait 20 seconds" crap -
It is fairly common knowledge that Musharraf's power is constrained by Muslim fundamentalists in Pakistan's military and Intelligence services. Knowing the cowboy compunctions of Bushco, don't you think they would have blazed in if they thought they could succeed?
Wheeee!
An explosion killed three U.S. troops and wounded four others as the soldiers searched a building for a weapons cache in Diyala province in Iraq, the U.S. military announced Saturday.
The killings on Friday raise the February death toll for U.S. troops to 37.
Durbin rocks.
Osama bin Laden talks like John Wayne?
Who knew?
Roses do exceptionally well in Phoenix, since there is no threat of the usual fungus disease there, the soil is seldom too rich and the rose itself is a drought resistant cultivar.
GWPDA,
I would imagine so - the problem here is rampant black spot because of the humidity.
U2 rocks and Obama is the man.
I know a guy in Casa Grande who has marvelous roses. "China" roses should thrive there too, in the mild climate.
The killings on Friday raise the February death toll for U.S. troops to 37.
And this is supposed to be the time of year when there is a lull in the action. Goddess save us when the lull is over.
Knowing the cowboy compunctions of Bushco, don't you think they would have blazed in if they thought they could succeed?
plantsman, lowercase
Possibly. Coocoo keeps picking on only those countries which we are pretty sure can't fight back effectively.
An explosion killed three U.S. troops and wounded four others as the soldiers searched a building for a weapons cache in Diyala province in Iraq, the U.S. military announced Saturday.
But Bush wats to send more troops to secure Baghdad.
Hilarious.
OK, I know he will do things down the road that will disappoint me. But right now I have a developing case of Obama fever.
"any lie or conspiracy theory about Democratic candidates will be aired as straight news"-newspaper editors and cable news producers
Fenian, if Musharraf did that his life wouldn't last very long. Either coup or asassination.
Karin
I can live with that. Call the CIA and get it done. He took over in a coup and kicked out the elected president and his secret police is harboring OBL. Get one of his secret police to turn on him. I'm tired of this shit.
Tweety first Miss America and now slobbering over Mrs. Obama
Possibly. Coocoo keeps picking on only those countries which we are pretty sure can't fight back effectively.
yeh. And that's been working so well! What I mean is the risks are grave, the chance of a desired outcome, very slim.
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said serial numbers and markings on some explosives used in Iraq indicate that the material came from Iran, but he offered no evidence.
is that why serial numbers, from missing US ordnance unaccounted for in iraq, didn't get logged? so when insurgents get their hands on it, the drunk can claim it came from iran?
OK, I know he will do things down the road that will disappoint me. But right now I have a developing case of Obama fever.
Karin
There isn't one who won't do some things that will disappoint his or her supporters. The trick is not to find the perfect candidate - the trick is to find someone whom you believe will do things for the right reasons, who you believe in from a basic standpoint - you cannot base your support on details - they change once someone is elected, anyway.
The killings on Friday raise the February death toll for U.S. troops to 37.
Just shows you how desperate those insurgents are.
I can live with that.
Um, call not for you, get it?
Obama up. Big crowd.
Electronic hum on CNN.
Has a man with enormous ears ever been elected president?
Bad sound on msnbc too.
"any lie or conspiracy theory about Democratic candidates will be aired as straight news"-newspaper editors and cable news producers
jr
where did you hear or get that?
the trick is to find someone whom you believe will do things for the right reasons, who you believe in from a basic standpoint - you cannot base your support on details - they change once someone is elected, anyway.
Thank you.
he killings on Friday raise the February death toll for U.S. troops to 37.
And the month only has 28 days, and half of it is still left.
We're already up to almost 4 a day at this rate.
You know what they say: Big feet, big shoes.
Ralph de Toledano died - 90 years old. I thought he died thirty years ago...
Has a man with enormous ears ever been elected president?
LBJ
And all this time he thought you were ignoring him!
Thank you.
pie
Morning, pie.
[smile]
My cat has big ears.
The trick is not to find the perfect candidate - the trick is to find someone whom you believe will do things for the right reasons, who you believe in from a basic standpoint - you cannot base your support on details - they change once someone is elected, anyway.
I judge them by their decision making. I don't even care if they do the right thing for the wrong reasons. So far, Obama has shown good judgment.
We're already up to almost 4 a day at this rate.
3.9. Been at 4 quite frequently this month, hovering over 3 pretty much all the time.
Why, General PetRockius, I think I got a chubby!
Tena, pie, you know I agree. No perfect candidate.
btw, I met Obama at an event for Kerry in 2004. He wowed the crowd.
Has a man with enormous ears ever been elected president?
Cookie Guggleman
Surely you jest - have you forgotten what LBJ looked like?
He actually had Buddha ears.
damn that is a huge crowd
I judge them by their decision making. I don't even care if they do the right thing for the wrong reasons.
Yeah, I know what you mean and I'm certainly not averse to things being done for reasons I don't agree with when what's being done is a good result. Like the vaccine issue with Gov Perry - he's doing it for money. I don't care. The result is the best possible result.
LBJ loved to pull his dogs' ears -- got him in dutch, too!
Fenian, if Musharraf did that his life wouldn't last very long. Either coup or asassination.
Karin
I can live with that. Call the CIA and get it done. He took over in a coup and kicked out the elected president and his secret police is harboring OBL. Get one of his secret police to turn on him. I'm tired of this shit.
Unrepentant Fenian
I thought someone else would pipe up by now, so let's just raise a few points, huh:
1. "We" don't have any right determining the government of Pakistan.
2. Our actions in that regard can only help the very conservative, Taliban- and Al Qaida-friendly groups take power.
3. These guys would end up with the nuclear bomb.
4. It'd be stupid to risk that.
Way Washington must change.
Ooh, good line.
Has a man with enormous ears ever been elected president?
Cookie Guggleman
Surely you jest - have you forgotten what LBJ looked like?
He actually had Buddha ears.
Tena
Well, yes, I was jesting! And my memory of LBJ is of his sad, craggy face and his surgery scar he so proudly displayed.
LBJ loved to pull his dogs' ears -- got him in dutch, too!
I hate the Dutch.
LBJ loved to pull his dogs' ears -- got him in dutch, too!
plantsman, lowercase
And abdomen scar. Thems were the days.
Fox News seems to be the only channel broadcasting the Obama speech without that annoying hum.
1. "We" don't have any right determining the government of Pakistan.
2. Our actions in that regard can only help the very conservative, Taliban- and Al Qaida-friendly groups take power.
3. These guys would end up with the nuclear bomb.
4. It'd be stupid to risk that.
Moe Szysla
1. Exactly.
2. Exactly.
3. Yep.
4. Egregiously stupid.
Matt Stoller LOOKS so innocent.
OK, historians. Have we had a president from Illinois since Lincoln?
I hate the Dutch.
They have very large heads.
Using his race and funny name as a plus -- he can unite America the way Lincoln and MLK did.
The trick is not to find the perfect candidate - the trick is to find someone whom you believe will do things for the right reasons, who you believe in from a basic standpoint - you cannot base your support on details - they change once someone is elected, anyway. tena
some people operate from the belief hillary will suddenly become more liberal once she's president.
failure of leadership- preach!
There's no hum on CSPAN.
Agreed on the HPV vaccine, and nice blunting the fundie opposition so far.
It's SO obvious, it's not FOR promiscuous sex, it's AGAINST cancer!
Is Obama using a teleprompter? It doesn't look like he is.
Well, yes, I was jesting! And my memory of LBJ is of his sad, craggy face and his surgery scar he so proudly displayed.
Cookie Guggleman
LBJ was proof that Buddha ears do not a Buddha make.
[smile]
OK, historians. Have we had a president from Illinois since Lincoln?
Karin
Reagan was born in IL, but I don't know if he counts.
Ah, the candidacy announcement.
I think I'll crawl back into bed.
Half of America has funny names.
You know, I'm surprised liberal jeenyus hasn't been around to learnedly lecture us on the origin of Obama's name...
"The cynics, the lobbyists..."
Love it!
It's SO obvious, it's not FOR promiscuous sex, it's AGAINST cancer!
plantsman, lowercase | 02.10.07 - 11:22 am | #
Yes and I actually overheard an elderly woman yesterday going off on that vaccine and how wrong it is. I damn near turned around and said: "What about cancer do you not get?"
Goddamn - people make me tired sometimes.
And despite common beliefs about maximal human size, the Dutch keep getting taller, too!
Is Obama using a teleprompter? It doesn't look like he is.
Cookie Guggleman
No, and he's not looking down. Just talking. Better check his back for a transmitter.
Half of America has funny names.
I'm glad my real name is normal.
Half of America has funny names.
Karin
Like me. My name is spelled funny and that has caused all kinds of confusion.
It's the way my Norwegian grandmother spelled it.
No tongues!
(just pic)
And despite common beliefs about maximal human size, the Dutch keep getting taller, too!
It's the wooden shoes.
Tena, next time -- say it, and see if a light comes on.
I'm glad my real name is normal.
And it's pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove.
Okay, I need to go make some coffee.
i'm glad barack doesn't go by his childhood nickname: barry.
Obama is ignoring all the important kweschins like: why white people always call him "unthreatening"
http://www.politico.com/rogersimon/
Proctologist everywhere are blushing.
No tongues!
(just pic)
watertiger |
I believe Old White Guy is about to flick out his lizard tongue to try to suck his brains out of his nose.
Let's bring back emoticons.
I know a guy in Casa Grande who has marvelous roses. "China" roses should thrive there too, in the mild climate.
plantsman, lowercase
Damn straight. I've got a whole wall of the house covered in Rosa banksiae - they'll bloom in a few weeks too.
Big ears? Lyndon Johnson.
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I wonder if Old White Guy is thinking: "he's so clean!"
Which isn't fair to the old white guy.
Best part of the Obama speech so far
"no scapegoating of gays and immigrants."
I, for one, am enjoying the epidemic of articulate people of color.
Good morning. This is a public service announcement:
DO NOT EAT SALAD IN RESTAURANTS.
Spent from 4 pm-12 am in the ER yesterday on an IV drip after I passed out at work a few hours after having a caesar salad at a restaurant. Long story short, it's either E. Coli or salmonella, they won't know until the lab tests come back. Most unpleasant 24 hours of my life so far.
Universal health care!
"wooooo....!!!"
Ethanol! Investment! Job creation!
"Let's be the generation...!"
Oh, no! Not 9/11!
"no scapegoating of gays and immigrants."
Liars for Bush
I'm fucking holding him to that one - details be damned. We have a big fucking problem, Houston.
I want that immigration concentration camp south of here closed down yesterday goddamn it.
Spent from 4 pm-12 am in the ER yesterday on an IV drip after I passed out at work a few hours after having a caesar salad at a restaurant. Long story short, it's either E. Coli or salmonella, they won't know until the lab tests come back. Most unpleasant 24 hours of my life so far.
TJ, now with bacterial infecti
O my god, TJ - you poor thing!
Holy shit, TJ, that's awful.
Let's bring back emoticons.
virgotex
Yeah, Atrios should have 'emoticon Saturdays'...
Bring troops home by March of 2008!
The Homecoming of veterans! Honor them!
good line.
Hi Tena. It sucks, but I'm okay. Yesterday was pretty horrendous, but they gave me tons of morphine at the hospital and sent me home with Percocet and Raglan for the stomach cramps.
Hopefully, I'll start to feel normal within the next 48 hours after the antibiotics start kicking in.
But I'm serious, no more salad. Unless you personally washed it.
I eat a fair bit of Earthbound Fresh Herb Salad at home. It comes in those hard plastic clamshells; and so far, so good. Sorry TJ, get well!
Long story short, it's either E. Coli or salmonella, they won't know until the lab tests come back. Most unpleasant 24 hours of my life so far.
Icky!
But I'm serious, no more salad. Unless you personally washed it.
TJ,
I hear ya - man that's a hard one to avoid. We eat a lot of salad.
I'm so damn sorry and that is really scary.
Heh. Direct reference to Abraham Lincoln
TJ, ACK!!!
a "tall, gangly man" can be elected president!
TJ
hopes it is salmonella goes through faster and is over
hope you feel better soon
Thanks Stu and plantsman.
So what's been going on in the world? Besides the death of Anna Nicole, of course...
Feel better, TJ. Prayers to the FSM on your behalf.
Just wash it and towel it dry with some paper towels.
Heh. Direct reference to Abraham Lincoln
Lincoln was born a poor black child in a log cabin that he built with his own hands.
The Homecoming of veterans! Honor them!
And for teh gays?
The Homecoming of queens?
(sorry, it was a joke I was forced at gunpoint to make).
Jackie Wilson !
The impending invasion of Iran, all Democrats are waffle, y'know -- same old, same old.
BTW, what channel is airing the speech?
Lincoln was born a poor black child in a log cabin that he built with his own hands.
NTodd, Sex Panther
And his first name was Hebrew!
(sorry, it was a joke I was forced at gunpoint to make).
That, uh...wasn't my gun.
Oh no, TJ. I do like a Caesar salad, and have never hesitated to order one. Now I will.
Thanks, everybody. oh and fyi, the way to know if it's a bacterial infection and not just the flu is, um, well, if blood is involved in a place where it shouldn't be, get thee to the ER.
When did NTodd become a sex panther? Did something exciting happen?
Mrs. Obama should give LauraBot some style tips.
It's just so hard to wash food in a restaurant, and to lose trust in restaurant food is tragic.
And his first name was Hebrew!
But he was only half Jewish. Heck, his mom made great pork chops!
BTW, what channel is airing the speech?
watertiger
Just three. BET, Al Jazeera, MTV.
Who's speechifying today?
That, uh...wasn't my gun.
That's a cannon!
Tweety: "the politics of today" are the politics of Hillary Clinton.
Right, not of George Bush, but of Hillary Clinton.
Howard Fineman is so full of shit.
afternoon moonbats
spent the morning being pampered, had my hair done up really special for the ball (it has been given soft curls) tonight and had a manicure, so my nails now look fabulous.
I'm feeling 100% at the moment, depsite my back up friend i was taking to the ball has pulled out at the last minute.
the way to know if it's a bacterial infection and not just the flu is, um, well, if blood is involved in a place where it shouldn't be
I alway have that problem, but my defense lawyer is really good...
Just three. BET, Al Jazeera, MTV.
[laughy face spitting coffee on monitor]
Take that Clinton.
"Politics of small minded dreams is over. "
thank god you were able to get treatment, tj. whenever tv covers this story, the victims look like they're in excruciating pain.
they need to do something about food safety in this country.
And his first name was Hebrew!
Cookie Guggleman
Flashes to "All in the Family"
and to lose trust in restaurant food is tragic.
plantsman, lowercase
Yup. If it hasn't been cooked to death, I won't be ordering it.
On the plus side, maybe I'll lose some weight.
The Obama audience looks like 99.5% white. What's up with that? Springfield, IL.
OMG, I thought from the CNN homepage that Obama speech was being brought to you BY Lincoln. I figured he had really sold out.
My bad.
That's a cannon!
watertiger
NO FLIRTING.
Commodifying the slums of Haiti.
spent the morning being pampered, had my hair done up really special for the ball (it has been given soft curls) tonight and had a manicure, so my nails now look fabulous.
That sounds like fun, but I'm sure sorry your friend backed out at the last minute. That's a shame.
On the plus side, maybe I'll lose some weight.
Not exactly a problem, as far as I could see, darls. And we were all dressed in layers.
So is his first name Mike, or is it Allen?
Sounds suspicious to me.
My father taught me, "If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much."
Off for the Saturday routine of shopping and stuff. Have a great day everyone.
And TJ, glad to hear the problem was addressed.
That's a cannon!
I have a gub.
NO FLIRTING.
I could stand a little peril...
oh, what's up with the Catholic League ad? did google do that because of all the Bill Donohue posts?
There is that. The "coddle the egg in Caesar salad?" conundrum has been around a while, too.
The Obama audience looks like 99.5% white. What's up with that? Springfield, IL.
To get to Springpatch you take I55 from Chicago for about five hours (3.5 for me and then take a sharp right turn into 1977.
I passed out at work a few hours after having a caesar salad at a restaurant.
sounds like a cause for litigation, to me...
you need a new wardrobe, right? and a car???
lottery time!!!
What does internal al-Qaeda polling say about Obama?
""Barack" is both a Swahili word meaning "blessed by God" and an Arabic word meaning "blessed.""
Don't say "barack" if you're in a Big Dick hunting party. He might think you're a wounded quail.
oh, what's up with the Catholic League ad? did google do that because of all the Bill Donohue posts?
TJ, n
It's meant ironically - to demonstrate just how fucked up the Catholic League is.
you're right Fineman is full of shit.
The Catholic League ad, which was real in the NY Subway in 1994; was posted by Atrios, and links to Act Up.
The ad is a spoof, tj. Confuses lots of people at first.
...and then take a sharp right turn into 1977.
driftglass
Priceless!
Tweety - a lot of Husseins in his hood
lol
they need to do something about food safety in this country.
jello - 11:36 am
they do....
but they won't...
too expensive...
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The food supply in this country is not safe. A basic government function I always took for granted, anyway. Oh well, Grover's taxes are lower and that's what really matters.
I got the impression that first cspan caller didn't care for Obama.
Also Springpatch is a very "Southron" town in a lot of ways. It has a black population, but the relationships are much more like small town Kentucky than big city Chicago.
Moon, sorry your back pulled out. Have a great time anyway.
(Does that sound dirty, or it just my mind in the gutter this morning.)
sounds like a cause for litigation, to me...
you need a new wardrobe, right? and a car???
lottery time!!!
WoodyG'sGuitar,
At the very least, they ought to pay for TJ's medical expenses. They'd probably settle right away to avoid the public embarrassment.
...and then take a sharp right turn into 1977.
driftglass
Nice. Mostly anywhere south of I 80 is a trip back to the past.
Not exactly a problem, as far as I could see, darls. And we were all dressed in layers.
watertiger
What's that saying...you can never be too rich or too thin?
btw, my new job is teh awesome. Sitting around in a meeting the other day discussing new Medicaid rules and regs, and someone deadpanned, "well you know the real solution to this problem is of course to give these people tax breaks so they can go purchase the health plan they need."
brief silence, then the whole room cracked up. I'd say Bush's little health care proposal has fallen flat within the industry.
Some American intelligence experts believe that Hezbollah has provided some of the logistical support and training to Shiite militias in Iraq, but they assert that such steps would not be taken without Iran’s blessing.
Oh, now I understand the link to Iran.
Here we go again.
Tweety: "Can he keep it from getting petty?"
That's kind of up to you, asshole.
Caesar salad has always held the potential for salmonella, because the original recipe calls for an uncooked egg -- and those aren't reliably uninfected any more.
Obama was born a rich white child....
Howard, DeDe and Tweety are working themselves up-it's like listening to a three way on the phone
TJ-- what's the name of the restaurant, and in what city? Does your state publicize restaurant inspection reports? You have good reason to get copies of the them.
At the very least, they ought to pay for TJ's medical expenses. They'd probably settle right away to avoid the public embarrassment.
Tena,
If it does come back positive for E. Coli, a state health officer will be calling so they can try and track it down. At a minimum, I'll expect the restaurant to pick up whatever my crappy insurance doesn't cover.
Nothing should be done about food safety in this country.
Hell, it could help curtail the obesity crisis by giving Jane and John Fatwad the runs for a month.
Market driven, I tells ya!!
The food supply in this country is not safe. A basic government function I always took for granted, anyway. Oh well, Grover's taxes are lower and that's what really matters.
Neponset
The civil service has been gutted, alright, but don't cities handle restaurant cleanliness and safety? I didn't think that was function of the federal government, except for safety of production.
Shetes
The Obama audience looks like 99.5% white. What's up with that? Springfield, IL.
Mike
sharpton isn't helping. in the previous forum he said of obama he may be of our color but that doesn't mean he is our kind.
that's the same thing sharpton says about condi or clarence thomas. i've a couple of complaints about obama, but i would never compare him to rightwing wackos.
I got the impression that first cspan caller didn't care for Obama.
malice
It's been my impression that a majority of CSPAN callers are nuts.
A vast over rpresentation of wackjobs call into CSPAN.
If it does come back positive for E. Coli, a state health officer will be calling so they can try and track it down. At a minimum, I'll expect the restaurant to pick up whatever my crappy insurance doesn't cover.
TJ,
I suspect they will - they certainly should and it's cheaper for them to just go ahead than to fight it.
Nice. Mostly anywhere south of I 80 is a trip back to the past.
When you roll that stretch of highway there is literally almost nothing to see but corn, gay-making soybeans, and little Burma-shave-like signs extolling the virtues of gun ownership in rhyme.
brief silence, then the whole room cracked up. I'd say Bush's little health care proposal has fallen flat within the industry.
TJ, now with bacterial infecti | 02.10.07 - 11:42 am
except for eugene volokh, who was extensively featured this morning onm NPR/WESAT extolling the wisdom of the Busheviks to the sun...
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Even Candy cannot understand what the hell her anchor is yapping about.
In Arizona, counties oversee restaurant sanitation, but with eggs this has to go back to the source.
TJ-- what's the name of the restaurant, and in what city? Does your state publicize restaurant inspection reports?
Moe Szyslak
It was The Capital Room in Raleigh, although I think they;ve changed their name to Tavern something. Considered a nice downtown place. In NC each restaurant has a numerical inspection grade posted on the wall. I don't eat anywhere lower than 93.
plantsman, I did not know that about caesar salad. Thanks for the heads up.
Hi Woody!!!
Moonboo, I'm certain that you will have a ball.
In Arizona, counties oversee restaurant sanitation, but with eggs this has to go back to the source.
plantsman
If it turns out to have been the eggs- and that looks likely, god knows - then yeah, that goes back to the source.
Sharpton has mastered the art of damning with faint praise. How sad.
factory farming is the very best way to ensure the survival of all kinds of noxious and odious toxins and bugs...
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Funny, wingnut caller thought Obama was Muslim, and had adopted a Muslim name. The host set her straight very clearly.
Also in AZ, County Sanitation Grades used to be prominently posted near the entrance -- I've never seen one in Oregon, *gulp!*
hi tj...
gotta run.
an odd job beckons...
later batzes
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Moonboo, I hate when human cruelties hurt nice people! Have a ball, and do what you feel.
In Albuquerque, we became accustomed to seeing the relevant health department decal on the restaurant door - however high or low class, the sticker told you everything. If you insisted on eating in a place with a "C" health sticker you were pretty much responsible for any consequences.
Except for panaderias which almost always ended up as "C" because their ovens switched between baking bread and roasting chiles and it was impossible to completely clean them.
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In Arizona, counties oversee restaurant sanitation, but with eggs this has to go back to the source.
plantsman
Incidentally, in Arizona, the State Egg Inspector is still a chap named Easterday....
Nice that bread usually bakes well above 160F!
Speaking of food, I remember seeing someone at a 7-11 complain that the chili'n'cheese dispenser was empty. So they refilled the machine. The customer saw all this (as did I). A new big clear plastic bag of vague meat and beans was put into the machine. No longer a magical meat dispenser, seeing this maintenance disgusted me, but not the complaining customer, who promptly topped her hot dog with this vague meat and bean mix.
Those prepared heated foods contain so much salt in general that little can live in them that would hide in and harm a human, but disgusting they are!
There's a bit of rural farmland nearby, and several egg sources I hope to investigate whenever spring decides to arrive.
Obama Sheets!
Only in an enlightened, educated society could an Obama presidential run be a positive force. That would preclude this delusional, obese anti-intellectual swamp of a nation.
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