I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Howdy again, folkses.


Money!


GravatarMegan McCardle is one of life's enduring ANNOYANCES. Along with Jonah Goldberg.



Two major wastes of time, space and oxygen.


GravatarNo win but a place.


GravatarI know it's important to debunk wingnut disinformation, but wow, that one is WAY into the weeds...


GravatarSheetsgate.


GravatarWhile it was always a farce, just a way to kick the can down the road another six months, at least during those years there was some sense that something needed to change in Iraq.

Now it's just static and stagnant. We're there. We're staying. That's it.


Pretty much. A very cynical game they've played, now we're in so far it's easy to make the argument that we can't get out now. Heads they win, tails we all lose.


GravatarI have no idea what this post about.


GravatarFirst of all, to blogger NutellaonToast who characterized the exchange between Megan McArdle and me as a "catfight": cut out the dumbass sexist bullshit right now, please

*loses interest in possible mudwrestling match*


Gravataris about


GravatarI have no idea what this post about.
leibniz♘☮


I never read the cats posts.


GravatarAlright...this post convinced me to get off of my ass and do some cleaning.

Later.


Gravatarpart of the instapundit crew or circle as it were that should clear up at least part of the mystery


GravatarOh, it's another monopsony thread!


GravatarI never read the cats posts.

Does anyone read any of the posts?


GravatarNo mystery, in light of the Golden Rule--the one about, He who has the gold, makes the rules.


GravatarAlright...this post convinced me to get off of my ass and do some cleaning.

Later.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 1:35 pm


It's past my bed time already and this one was one to put my head on the pillow.


GravatarMonopsonyGate


GravatarI have no idea what this post about.
leibniz♘☮ | 04.26.08 - 1:34 pm | #


Megan McCardle is an ignorant twit
a typical libertarian
that is to say, half-wit
she tried to to use
a "theorem" by Coase
to puff up some drivel
that was typically verbose
but suffice it to say
she didn't understand it at all
because libertarians brains
are efficiently small.


GravatarWhy is it that anytime someone writes about economics my eyes want to roll back into my head?


GravatarWhy is it that anytime someone writes about economics my eyes want to roll back into my head?

Don't hate me because I'm a mathlete!


GravatarIs Kathy G. any relation to Kenny G?


GravatarI think the upshot of Kathy G.'s post is that McArdle was caught pulling shit out of her ass again, and in rebuttal to that, she pulled even more shit out of her ass.


GravatarI was told there would be no math on this thread.


Gravatarmmm Nutella on Toast... aghaghagh


Gravatar40 U.S. military deaths in Iraq this month.

We've passed the total for the last two months, and equaled January's total.

Looks like the effect of the surge is on its way out.


GravatarThis economics shit sounds like it never works in real life.


Gravatar...adding that while the term "preference maximization" is occasionally used, it's a rather bad and misleading substitute for "utility maximization."

Oh, well that cleared things up! Thanks!


GravatarJust in the past couple of months, you've been busted for your writings on the Coase theorem, on monopsony (which I link to above), and (by Henry Farrell) on revealed preference

Yeah. Put her in handcuffs!!


GravatarI hate to interrupt this exciting thread about economics theory blogging, but I've watched There Will Be Blood a couple additional times this past week and I have to say that the score is stuck on a loop in my head. I'm going to have to buy it now. I am such a sucker for minimalism.


GravatarI am such a sucker for minimalism.
r€nato, sprung


You should try the score to No Country for Old Men.


GravatarI haven't been this stunned since I quit trying to read Camille Paglia.


GravatarThem as have all, gets all.


GravatarMegan McCardle is one of life's enduring mysteries.

But she was endearing in Annie!


Gravatarmonopsony - a market where there is one buyer and many sellers.


GravatarAnnie was annoying, not endearing.


GravatarYou should try the score to No Country for Old Men.

Just watched that. How did they come across David Diliberto as an associate producer?


GravatarBut she was endearing in Annie!
JeffCO


That's Andrea McCardle.


GravatarIsn't it astounding, what those two films share?

Both were filmed at least in part near Marfa, Texas... just over the hill from one another, same time of year.

Both have similar 'leave you hanging' endings.

Both heavily nominated for the Oscars.

Sparse, minimalist soundtracks.

I could go on. It's as if they were separated at birth.


GravatarNTodd maximization is taking the country by storm.


Gravataryou know what I understand about economics?

DRAINAGE! DRRRRRRAAAAAAINAGE!

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE! SLUUUUURRRRRRP!!! I DRINK IT UP!!!!


GravatarIt's sunny, and the squirrels are partying.


Gravatarer, r€nato, um, Old Country didn't have a soundtrack. I mean, music.


GravatarA very cynical game they've played, now we're in so far it's easy to make the argument that we can't get out now. Heads they win, tails we all lose. r€nato

Cf. the sunk cost fallacy.


GravatarI knew that Moe.... :-0


GravatarPoor Atrios. Economists can't get any love.


GravatarNothing more minimal than nothing.


GravatarRather, *No Country*....

simels does whatever the fuck simels wants to do.


GravatarThat's Andrea McCardle. Gomez

why would you publicize having no sense of humor?


GravatarNTodd,
That Classroom 2.0 thing looks kind of cool, doesn't it? No Scrabble, though.


GravatarPoor Atrios. Economists can't get any love.
Molly Ivors


They can. But only in tiny units.


GravatarJust an aside on this whole Megan McArdle economist thing

/blogwhore


Gravatarah, my meeting is starting, just 15 minutes late...


Gravatarer, r€nato, um, Old Country didn't have a soundtrack. I mean, music.

two songs in the credits, IIRC. and something playing while those rolled. It did sound like something DiLiberto would play on his radio show, but I don't know why they would give him such a fancy title.


GravatarPlease help italians! We have Silvio Berlusconi again! Please do something! Invade Italy!

http://ilpopolosovrano.splinder.com/


GravatarMcStain don't know much about economics, but he'll have wise heads surrounding him.


GravatarHave mimi call Interpol.


GravatarNothing more minimal than nothing.

I drink your lack of a milkshake.


GravatarCiao Ermes, parto per Italia il 5 giugno... passo qualche settimana in Umbria con parenti ed i genitori...


Gravatarwhy would you publicize having no sense of humor?
JeffCO


I think my gravatar is very fucking funny.


GravatarHave mimi call Interpol.

She did. They told her there's no I in threesome.


GravatarPlease help italians! We have Silvio Berlusconi again! Please do something! Invade Italy!

I'd be glad to invade Italy if they would, like, give me an apartment in San Gimignano or something.


GravatarI think my gravatar is very fucking funny. Gomez

Looks like recycled humor to me.


GravatarHey, it's Megan McArdle and her Jonah-like ability to pratfall again and again without shame. My Atlantic subscription lapses in a few months, guys... time to impress me....


GravatarThat Classroom 2.0 thing looks kind of cool, doesn't it? No Scrabble, though.

It does, good potential, 'specially the wiki.


Gravatarplease send euros, Ermes... our currency is barely worth wiping one's ass with.


Gravatarshit, even the lira is looking pretty good compared to the dollar.


GravatarShe did. They told her there's no I in threesome.

But there is a 'u' in foursome.


GravatarI drink your lack of a milkshake.

I no longer think about not drinking the milkshake you no longer have.


GravatarLooks like recycled humor to me.
JeffCO


There is no new humor.


GravatarSnowbird Alert!

MIAMI - Authorities are questioning a 73-year-old driver who sped through a security gate at Miami International Airport and ended up on one of the main runways.

The man has not been identified. Police say he may have been disoriented when he drove passed security Friday morning.

He was quickly detained by police.


GravatarHey, it's Megan McArdle and her Jonah-like ability to pratfall again and again without shame.

You're just jealous b/c she's chevy chase and you're not.


GravatarPolice say he may have been disoriented when he drove passed security Friday morning.

must be a lot of that in Florida, I'm sure they give a license to anybody regardless of their fitness to drive.


GravatarMIAMI - Authorities are questioning a 73-year-old driver who sped through a security gate at Miami International Airport and ended up on one of the main runways.

Anyone see simels lately?


GravatarYou're just jealous b/c she's chevy chase and you're not.
JeffCO


Ahem.


GravatarEconomificat-- er, economifization- um economic-ifying... ah..

figuring out that money stuff is hard work!


Gravatardrove passed

That mistake is really sad.


GravatarThere is no new humor. Gomez

Well, not in Steeltown, no.


GravatarMIAMI - Authorities are questioning a 73-year-old driver who sped through a security gate at Miami International Airport and ended up on one of the main runways.

don't the snowbirds all clear out before spring break? my parents went back north a month ago.


Gravatardrove passed

wow I didn't catch that. Sad indeed.


GravatarMolly Ivors rulez, everyone else on this thread droolz.


GravatarMany snowbirds lose the ability to fly after landing in Florida.


GravatarWell, not in Steeltown, no.
JeffCO


Recycled humor. I waiting for new stuff. *taps foot*


Gravataroh, and my twitter says some eighteen-wheeler smashed into an el station in Chicago.


Gravataroh, and my twitter says some eighteen-wheeler smashed into an el station in Chicago

I know the el station survived.


GravatarMolly Ivors rulez, everyone else on this thread droolz.

Horndog.


Gravatardrove passed

See what happens when people rely on spell check? Too bad there's no grammar check, or you know, editors.


GravatarYou'd think AP could afford editors.


GravatarJeffCO, Broncos fan?


GravatarI know the el station survived.

According to this, part of it collapsed. Two dead, seventeen injured.


Gravatarwell at least they are *using* spell check. A lot of folks can't even be bothered to do that.


Gravatar Horndog.

She was the only person who clicked my most recent blogwhore.


Gravataror you know, editors.


You're so 20th century.

Wait until Sinfonian, who just patted me on the head for almost caching up, realizes i kjust played a 94 point work on him.


Gravatarwell at least they are *using* spell check. A lot of folks can't even be bothered to do that.
r€nato, sprung


I blew this month's budget on gravatars.


Gravatar
She was the only person who clicked my most recent blogwhore.


I commented, too!


GravatarYou're just jealous b/c she's chevy chase and you're not.
JeffCO


JeffCO, you ignorant slut.


GravatarThis economics shit sounds like it never works in real life.
Gomez


if you hold x constant then...
well, it what world is x constant? drove me batty.
I prefer accounting.


GravatarAccording to this, part of it collapsed. Two dead, seventeen injured.
theo. of athens, more caption | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 2:00 pm |


Saw it on the TV this morning. The semi went right up the escelator. The people killed were on it at the time.


GravatarSouthern Beale and Molly Ivors are the two best people in the blogosphere.


Gravataroh, and my twitter says some eighteen-wheeler smashed into an el station in Chicago.

Twitter?


GravatarAccording to this, part of it collapsed. Two dead, seventeen injured.
theo. of athens, more caption


Which one? I lived in Chi town for 3 years.


GravatarSafari has included spellcheck, but it blows and has no sense of humor.


GravatarBoth accounting and economics use math, which puts them more or less out of my reach.

But I'm better off than my students, who couldn't manage the few calculations in A Modest Proposal this week.


GravatarSafari has included spellcheck, but it blows and has no sense of humor.
plantsman


Apparently I don't either because I'm from Pittsburgh.


GravatarJeffCO, Broncos fan? Gomez

For me there is only the '79 Steelers.


GravatarKraphammer:

Would you maintain friendly relations with an unrepentant terrorist? Would you even shake his hand? To ask why Obama does is perfectly legitimate and perfectly relevant to understanding what manner of man he is.

I wish Rummy hadn't of shook hands with the world's evilest turrist and told him it was OK to invade Kuwait.


GravatarI'm better off than my students, who couldn't manage the few calculations in A Modest Proposal this week.

What, roast a baby for 30 minutes at 420, then reduce to 320 for 9 minutes per pound?


GravatarFor me there is only the '79 Steelers.
JeffCO


The 78 Steelers were better.


GravatarLet's drive Krauthammer's HoverRound off a short pier.


GravatarHamas just "Endorsed" Obama X for President. If this isn't the final nail in the coffin, it'll do for now. McCain is now 99.99% elected. Elected. Game.Set.Match.


GravatarBut I'm better off than my students, who couldn't manage the few calculations in A Modest Proposal this week.

1+1-3=2.


GravatarWhich one? I lived in Chi town for 3 years.
Gomez | 04.26.08 - 2:02 pm | #


China town.


Gravatar
Twitter?


jesus, how many blogs do you have?

somebody also sent me an SMS this morning saying "Guess who this is?",
but I figure that's only news to me and the person who text-messaged the wrong number.


GravatarNah, Swift does all these calculations about how many babies there are, how many women will miscarry, how many can afford to take care of their kids, how many you reserve for breeding, etc.


It's simple subtraction, but they were foxed by it.


GravatarNo, auggie, the election is in November.

Have more Cheetos.


GravatarMcCain is now 99.99% elected. Elected. Game.Set.Match.

Well, I guess we can call off the election then!


GravatarThe 78 Steelers were better. Gomez

I was surprised and delighted when they drafted Willie Stargell.


GravatarWell, I guess we can call off the election then!
NTodd, TKPD


Good. It is during football season.


GravatarI have no idea who Megan McCardle is, but I read the post, and she sounds just like Mimi.


GravatarI was surprised and delighted when they drafted Willie Stargell.
JeffCO


But they wouldn't let him use his bat during games.


GravatarIs she a supermodel?


GravatarBush administration opposes Democrats' mortgage relief bill
Story Highlights
House Democrats' plan to help homeowners expected to face White House scrutiny

Rep. Barney Frank wants to make it easier for home re-financing, avoid foreclosures

Bush administration "strongly opposes" Frank's plan, calls bill a "bailout"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...gage/ index.html

Bush will be a dick to the bitter end.


GravatarWell, I guess we can call off the election then!

For all intent and purposes you could. It really is an exercise in futility at this point for Hussein Obama X.


GravatarSouthern Beale and Molly Ivors are the two best people in the blogosphere. The Kenosha Kid

Good point.


GravatarI don't our country run by some foxy rich chick like Cindy. She leads McStain around like some fucking house pet.


GravatarFor all intent and purposes you could. It really is an exercise in futility at this point for Hussein Obama X.
auggiesback


That will save McCain having to raise money. BTW how much has he raised?


GravatarIt really is an exercise in futility at this point for Hussein Obama X.

Reality called. She said it's her, not you. And she'd like her ABBA tapes back.


GravatarAm I to believe that nobody has compiled recordings of Felice and Boudreaux Bryant playing their own compositions?

Seems unthinkable. Tell me I'm wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Fel...oudleaux_Bryant


GravatarIt really is an exercise in futility at this point for Hussein Obama X.

Yes, we should all put our faith in President Matlock J. Depends.


GravatarI don't our country run by some foxy rich chick like Cindy. She leads McStain around like some fucking house pet.
Lime Rickey


I bet she makes a lot of noise.


GravatarI have no idea who Megan McCardle is, but I read the post, and she sounds just like Mimi.
Finny


She's living proof that any over-educated snot born on the Upper Whatever Side can pull herself up by her own bootstraps.


GravatarBut they wouldn't let him use his bat during games. Gomez

That's a ridiculous stereotype, you racist bastard!


GravatarBTW how much has he raised?

Seven dollars.

He's feeding his campaign workers stale peanut brittle and dusty ribbon candy.


Gravatar"Want" was left out for some unknown reason.


GravatarI bet she makes a lot of noise.
Gomez


Nah, when she's zonked out on downers, she just lays there.


GravatarHe's feeding his campaign workers stale peanut brittle and dusty ribbon candy.

McCain: "A Fruit Roll-Up in every pot."


GravatarI don't our country run by some foxy rich chick like Cindy.

What's you're position on Foxy Brown?


MMMmmmm... positioning Foxy Brown... auauaughghghghghgh


GravatarHe's feeding his campaign workers stale peanut brittle and dusty ribbon candy.

"These Werther's Originals are pure McCain!"

-Tweety


Gravatar"I'm ensuring the preference maximization of prince albert piercings"-David Broder


Gravatarmoney talk make brain hurt

rightwingnut speak going unquestioned in the NYT:

“The public, week by week, is becoming more familiar with his big-government, far-left vision for America,” said Ed Patru, a spokesman for Freedom’s Watch, an advocacy organization that is portraying Mr. Obama as ultraliberal in an advertisement running in Louisiana before a special election for a House seat.

obama is an ULTRALIBERAL...WTF is that?

hey NYT, Fuck You!


GravatarThat's a ridiculous stereotype, you racist bastard!
JeffCO


I apologize. I forget that baseball players have a long sad history of discrimination that I have to be more sensitive to.


Gravatar
obama is an ULTRALIBERAL...WTF is that?


Lock them in a room with Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky.


GravatarY'know, I've never had the urge to roll back the clock and be an economics major.


GravatarWhat's you're position on Foxy Brown?

The 70's version or the more recent one?


GravatarShe's living proof that any over-educated snot born on the Upper Whatever Side can pull herself up by her own bootstraps.

don't tug the prada.


Gravatarportraying Mr. Obama as ultraliberal

I wish.


GravatarI wish Rummy hadn't of shook hands with the world's evilest turrist and told him it was OK to invade Kuwait.
Lime Rickey


Even worse.

Saddam felt suddenly in need of a shower after shaking the hand of terrorist Rummy.


GravatarI apologize. I forget that baseball players have a long sad history of discrimination that I have to be more sensitive to. Gomez

you're just frightened by the thought of a black guy with a bat.


GravatarHoward Zinn and Noam Chomsky.

Zinn & Chomsky, good name for a restaurant


Gravataryou're just frightened by the thought of a black guy with a bat.
JeffCO


No. I've seen Blacula 50 times.


GravatarThe 70's version or the more recent one? Gomez

Pfft - Pam Grier would drink her milkshake.

[lost in thought]


GravatarNo. I've seen Blacula 50 times. Gomez

Ok, I take back the sense of humor comment, Dr. Funkenstein.


Gravatartwo songs in the credits, IIRC. and something playing while those rolled. It did sound like something DiLiberto would play on his radio show, but I don't know why they would give him such a fancy title.


Joseph Turner White: What's an associate producer credit?
Bill Smith: It's what you give to your secretary instead of a raise.

From "State and Main"


GravatarHe's feeding his campaign workers stale peanut brittle and dusty ribbon candy.

But an open bar and barbi for the press.


GravatarOk, I take back the sense of humor comment, Dr. Funkenstein.
JeffCO


*blows on nails*


GravatarJargon makes My Eyes Glaze Over.


Gravatarand barbi for the press.

He's pimping his wife to the press?

Oh, wait, you said barbi, not Barbie.


Gravatar BREAKING: BRETT FAVRE HAS OFFICIALLY RETIRED

*sobs*


GravatarJargon makes My Eyes Glaze Over.
Rmj, Bitter Theologist


That draft pick was a "reach", Mel.


GravatarMmmmmm... glazed jargon... auauauaughghghghgh


GravatarI hope he makes more movies!


GravatarDid they keep playing football after Tom Landry retired?


Gravatar BREAKING: BRETT FAVRE HAS OFFICIALLY RETIRED

We'll roll the stone back on the third day, and find that He has risen, to a better place with no idiot end-of-game interceptions.


GravatarDid they keep playing football after Tom Landry retired?
Rmj, Bitter Theologist


Yes. But it was not the same w/o Mr. Excitement.


GravatarMel Kiper sometimes criticizes running backs for being "not tight enough in the hips"


GravatarThe Longshoremen get it. Hello, Congress???


Gravatar'ello.

Did I miss anything?


Gravatarprofits are up
and the workers ground down
the economy is booming
so don't wear a frown
leading indicators show
that efficiency pays
and we're all getting freer
each and every day

so rationally maximize
each girl and boy
you've got a market value
like a bushel of soy

and if you don't have
the cash needed to eat
well the value of your life
don't mean much on the Street


GravatarPfft - Pam Grier would drink her milkshake.

They should have used Gina Torres.


GravatarMilitary gets sued for being religious nuts:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/2...PbXsIDh9GR/ qtfg


Gravatar(((V4V!!!)))

How was your tour of the southeast?


GravatarSpeaking of Klaus Barbie.


GravatarDid I miss anything?
V for Virginia, I'M bitter


Only the Greatest Football Player Evah has officially retired, that's all.


GravatarGood for the longshoremen!


GravatarV- welcome back. Please don't be bitter.


GravatarThey should have used Gina Torres.

I remember her from such shows as Xena, Hercules, and Firefly.


GravatarV4V - make your fucking move.


GravatarV- welcome back. Please don't be bitter. qlª

Bitter? I only just met her!


GravatarThere's nothing mysterious about Jonah Goldberg...he's Wingnut Welfare of the highest order who advocates that others of his age go fight in a war that he cheerleads, while he himself would never think of volunteering for.


GravatarI remember her from such shows as Xena, Hercules, and Firefly.

I remember her from my wildest dreams.


GravatarMcCain is a man who told the folks in Youngstown, Ohio — where most of the working single mothers cannot make it above the poverty line — that the answer to their problems is larger tax deductions. Talk about being out of touch!


Gravatar
I remember her from such shows as Xena, Hercules, and Firefly.


She was also in the surprisingly unfunny "I Think I Love My Wife."


GravatarBitter? I only just met her!

Are you here all week? Should I tip my waitron?


GravatarSmart moms don't let their children die for their country. You'd never catch Lucianne Goldberg making a bonehead mistake like that.


GravatarLucianne Goldberg also chose Jif.


GravatarV- welcome back. Please don't be bitter.
qlª

I was bitter, but I'm better.

NTodd -- it's your fucking turn, asshole.


GravatarAre you here all week? Should I tip my waitron? Molly Ivors

Free the baby veal 7!


GravatarWell, it's a good day to prep for the casting call for Shot at Love With Tila Tequila 3. We're gonna need more wax!


GravatarI'd love to see Jonah work at a real job. He wouldn't last more than three days.


GravatarHee - now you have an idea of the grinding, hellhole rage I live thru when confronted with 'history buffs'.  Economics buffs - a whole new definition of fool!


GravatarNTodd -- it's your fucking turn, asshole.


I was just going to say the same thing to him!


GravatarNTodd -- it's your fucking turn, asshole.

About fucking time, shitpukingbitchtard.


GravatarFYI, Futurama sets are B1G1 this week at Costco (works out to $13 per) - also Dark Angel and How I Met Your Mother.


GravatarOnly the Greatest Football Player Evah has officially retired, that's all.

You'll always have Big Ben.


GravatarWell, for some reason, I've been laying on the floor of the hallway all this time, but I guess I should get back to chicken coop construction. Later, you gorgeous people!


GravatarMlly's feeling cooped up.


Gravatarfolks in Youngstown, Ohio

I was reading an article about Youngstown a couple of days ago. The population is about half of what it was 30 years ago and the city gov't is razing buildings all over the city to cut down on costs of having to provide fire and police protection to the abandoned properties.


GravatarAbout fucking time, shitpukingbitchtard. NTodd, TKPD

I'm about to play, but you're not going to like it.


GravatarThere's precedent for this action. In the '50s, French dockworkers refused to load war materiel on ships headed for Indochina, and helped to bring that colonial war to an end. At the ILWU's convention in San Francisco in 2003, A. Q. McElrath, an octogenarian University of Hawaii regent and former ILWU organizer from the pineapple canneries, challenged the delegates to act for social justice, invoking the union's slogan, "An injury to one is an injury to all." She concluded, "The cudgel is on the ground. Will you pick it up?"

It appears that longshore workers may be doing just that on May Day and calling on immigrant workers and others to join them.


Why can't we have a National Strike?


GravatarGomez' draft needs: Fuzzy slippers.


GravatarAbout fucking time, shitpukingbitchtard. NTodd, TKPD

I'm about to play, but you're not going to like it.
JeffCO


You guys make it sound so attractive, you should be doing marketing for Scrabulous.


GravatarYou guys make it sound so attractive, you should be doing marketing for Scrabulous.
Gromit


Vicki kicked my ass at meatspace Scrabble so I kind of know I'd suck at it.


GravatarOkay, could someone please explain the hoopla about No Country to me?


Gravatar...adding that while the term "preference maximization" is occasionally used, it's a rather bad and misleading substitute for "utility maximization."

That's what happens when you leave the lights on in an empty room, right?


GravatarWash Post article on Pulaski, VA, residents dying younger and younger.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...Dtopnews& sub=AR

Guess who they vote for:

http://www2.sbe.virginia.gov/web...nov2004/ 155.htm


GravatarHee - now you have an idea of the grinding, hellhole rage I live thru when confronted with 'history buffs'. Economics buffs - a whole new definition of fool!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 2:34 pm |


Would you consider Niall Ferguson a history buff?


GravatarSo does Miami wait out the 10 minutes just to piss everyone off?


GravatarOkay, could someone please explain the hoopla about No Country to me?

It's nothing compared to the hula hoopla a few years back.


GravatarOkay, could someone please explain the hoopla about No Country to me?
dms


Javier Bardiem.


GravatarI would love to see the wingers vs. the longshoremen.


GravatarIt's nothing compared to the hula hoopla a few years back.
JeffCO


That was 1958.


GravatarWell, the Javier hoopla is the part that confused me the most.


GravatarHee - now you have an idea of the grinding, hellhole rage I live thru when confronted with 'history buffs'. Economics buffs - a whole new definition of fool!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 2:34 pm | #


I don't get that attitude. People don't need a license to learn. Not yet anyways.


GravatarWell, the Javier hoopla is the part that confused me the most.
dms


Pure evil.


Gravatarfolks in Youngstown, Ohio

I was reading an article about Youngstown a couple of days ago. The population is about half of what it was 30 years ago and the city gov't is razing buildings all over the city to cut down on costs of having to provide fire and police protection to the abandoned properties.
Toonscribe | 04.26.08 - 2:37 pm | #


First time I read about that was a couple of years ago when someone on this blog linked to this article:

http://www.governing.com/article.../ 0611cities.htm

I saw in the newer article that cities like Dayton are taking a look at that and seeing if something like that would work here.


Gravatar
Would you consider Niall Ferguson a history buff?


No - he's a perfectly adequate German economic historian. 


GravatarI don't get that attitude. People don't need a license to learn. Not yet anyways.

You have perhaos heard the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"?


GravatarWell, yes, amazingly I did get that. I just was underwhelmed by his performance.


GravatarExtra-virgin evil


GravatarHee - now you have an idea of the grinding, hellhole rage I live thru when confronted with 'history buffs'. Economics buffs - a whole new definition of fool!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 2:34 pm | #

I don't get that attitude. People don't need a license to learn. Not yet anyways.
rootless-e | 04.26.08 - 2:44 pm |


No, the point about these 'buffs' is that they aren't really educated, self or otherwise.


GravatarYou can't Javier your hoopla and hula too.


GravatarMegan McArdle is a NEILF.


GravatarI would love to see the wingers vs. the longshoremen.

I await the epic film of the confrontation:

All Quiet On The Cheetosfront.


GravatarWould you consider Niall Ferguson a history buff?

No - he's a perfectly adequate German economic historian.

GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 2:45 pm |


Is that the historian way of saying 'bless your heart'?


Gravatarextraneous "your". Feh, fucked that up.


GravatarWell, yes, amazingly I did get that. I just was underwhelmed by his performance.

I thought his hair was particularly menacing.


Gravatarmeanwhile, famed Nobelist, Oscarist, Global Warming Alarmist/Hoaxster/Huckster, Albert Antoinette Gore, Jr., issues another statement to the world's grain-starved poor:

"You need to understand that Paul Ehrlich didn't want you people here to begin with. So, going forward, please don't eat so much pate, go light on your osso bucco, and smoke twice as much as you do now...."


GravatarMegan McArdle is a NEILF.

She's no Tracy Flick... or is she?


GravatarNo, the point about these 'buffs' is that they aren't really educated, self or otherwise.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 2:46 pm | #


Considering that Niall Fergusen has had named chairs of history at the most prestigious universities in the english speaking world, Bernard Lewis, a pure propagandist, held a named professorship at Princeton, and Victor Davis Hanson is a professional historian, the value of credentials in the field is highly suspect.


GravatarI thought his hair was particularly menacing.

No Country For Old Men II: Attack of the Flowbees.


GravatarNo Country For Old Men II: Attack of the Flowbees.

No Country For Old Men III: The Combover Fights Back


GravatarNo, the point about these 'buffs' is that they aren't really educated, self or otherwise.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 2:46 pm | #

Considering that Niall Fergusen has had named chairs of history at the most prestigious universities in the english speaking world, Bernard Lewis, a pure propagandist, held a named professorship at Princeton, and Victor Davis Hanson is a professional historian, the value of credentials in the field is highly suspect.
rootless-e | 04.26.08 - 2:50 pm |


You can say that about any academic field: History, Political Science, Sociolog, Anthropolgy, Physics, etc.


Gravatar
No Country For Old Men II: Attack of the Flowbees.
JeffCO


America: No country for Old Men


that's what I'd like to see


GravatarNo Country for This Old Man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...h?v=- IEcO82_2TY


GravatarShe's no Tracy Flick... or is she?
JeffCO


There is no Reese Witherspoon.


GravatarApril 14:

Downsizing Youngstown

Not knowing the area or all of the details I don't really have any opinion about this, but this article about Youngstown, OH accepting its reality as a more sparsely populated city than it used to be and enacting policies based on that rather than dreaming of a population resurgence is interesting.

-Atrios 12:24

http://www.eschatonblog.com/ 2008...13_archive.html

http://www.defendyoungstown.com/


GravatarSay what you will about Steelermania.

At least its an ethos.


GravatarHee - now you have an idea of the grinding, hellhole rage I live thru when confronted with 'history buffs'. Economics buffs - a whole new definition of fool!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian


I wouldn't call myself a "history buff" - I'm more of a history "enthusiast."

I'm probably still annoying though.


GravatarAmerica: No country for Old Men

My father's an old man, and so's his old man.


GravatarMegan McCardle is to me, what Joe Klein is to Atrios. If I haven't received my daily dose of irrelevant and pointless economics writing, I simply ask myself "Self, did Megan McCardle publish any pointless drivel today?"

And the answer is always, "Yup."


GravatarThese guys are from Y-Town. Actually going to see Keaggy tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o...h? v=oJgdNCYt_tA


GravatarYou can say that about any academic field: History, Political Science, Sociolog, Anthropolgy, Physics, etc.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 2:53 pm | #


True, but the disciplines that are less propagandistic are less touchy about credentials.


GravatarI'm probably still annoying though.
~~~~~~~~```

Get the fuck out!


GravatarI'm probably still annoying though.
fourlegsgood


Not on an historical scale.


GravatarMy father's an old man, and so's his old man.

And so's McCain.

Can't they all go putter around in the garden and stop tryiing to fucking blow up the world?


GravatarRumored first picks:

1. Miami: Jake Long

2. SL: Chris Long

3. Atl: Matt Ryan

4. Oak: Darren McFadden


GravatarNot on an historical scale.
JeffCO


Well, not today, anyway.

Elias, fuck off, you stupid little wanker.


Gravatari've yet to hear a mathematician or biologist complain about "math buffs" or amateur biologists.


GravatarMatt Ryan has signed a "No Dogs" clause.


GravatarI tried to become a "cleaning buff" today, but it gave me a headache.


GravatarBruce wrote a song about "Jenny" the blast furnace in Youngstown and sang it here in this performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=Smddcs5n0H0


Gravatar4LG:

Fa Q.


Gravatari've yet to hear a mathematician or biologist complain about "math buffs" or amateur biologists.

Well, you do when talking about environmental stuff...


Gravatari've yet to hear a mathematician or biologist complain about "math buffs" or amateur biologists.
rootless-e | 04.26.08 - 2:59 pm | #


Well, as you already pointed out, social scientists get more ink and air time

I suspect there are 'amateur'scientist who annoy the heck out of 'professional' ones.


GravatarAnd now this bike buff is going to get into his saddle. l8rh9rz.


GravatarI have yet to hear a football player complain about draftniks.


GravatarI saw Isaac Asimov give a talk in Youngstown roughly 30 years ago. Now he's dead and Youngstown's dying. Me? I feel fine.


GravatarMiddle Weight champ of the world Kelly Pavlik is from Y-Town too. He appeared with Hillary when she was here:


http://www.teampavlik.com/


GravatarAnd now this bike buff is going to get into his saddle. l8rh9rz.
NTodd, TKPD


I'll let you know who Cleveland picks.


GravatarMe? I feel fine.

No you don't.


Gravatari've yet to hear a mathematician or biologist complain about "math buffs" or amateur biologists.

Well, you do when talking about environmental stuff...
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:01 pm | #


I do like the ones who claim not to be sciencists but tell is there is no such thing as climate change, and even if there is, we're not to blame for it.

Because I'm supposed to take their word for it, over actual scientist from a variety of fields.


GravatarNo you don't. NTodd, TKPD

Heh - thanks for my first 500 pt game!


GravatarAfternoon, Moonbats!


GravatarI've seen some of the scientific types get annoyed here with the buffs. Especially concerning diet and alternative medicine.


GravatarI'll let you know who Cleveland picks.

Thanks.

Now I'm really going or I'll feel as bad as JeffCO.


GravatarHeh - thanks for my first 500 pt game!
JeffCO


I notice you're afraid to play me again after I beat you.

I keed, I keed.


GravatarI saw Isaac Asimov give a talk in Youngstown roughly 30 years ago. Now he's dead and Youngstown's dying. Me? I feel fine.
JeffCO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't let my obnoxious attitude color your view of Y-Town. It's not dying. It's transforming. It's a good place, with good people. It's hard here, not a lot of opportunities. I could move to LA and live with my bro and start over. But this is home, and it needs people to help turn it around.


GravatarI saw Isaac Asimov give a talk in Youngstown roughly 30 years ago. Now he's dead and Youngstown's dying. Me? I feel fine.
JeffCO | 04.26.08 - 3:02 pm | #


Gravatarok, I made my scrabble moves, on to blogging.

How come NO MEDIA carried reaction to the amazing Moyers interview with Rev. Wright? 3 newspapers commented or relegated to the blogs some CLIPS they were pre-supplied.

Anyone viewing the program (it's gotta have a rerun) is in for a shock. The guy is a deep thinker, and has universal things to say.

The stupid sound bite in question is only 1/2 of his response to an old testament injunction to glorify your country when it behaves admirably to its population but expect it to be DAMNED when it pulls the kind of stunts the good old US of A is currently known for.

Whoever lifted the sound bite had to go over a whole sermon, and selecting that one thing is a study in deviant intentions.


GravatarJeffCo, what were you doing in Ytown? Did you live here?


GravatarThanks.

Now I'm really going or I'll feel as bad as JeffCO.
NTodd, TKPD


(What I'm not telling NTodd is that Cleveland picks tomorrow having squandered its first three picks)


GravatarHeh - thanks for my first 500 pt game!

Glad to oblige. Fortunately my luck in other games has been much better.

And now I swear I'm going. Gotta ride before the rain, then !#!*&^!@# grading...


GravatarI've seen some of the scientific types get annoyed here with the buffs. Especially concerning diet and alternative medicine.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:04 pm


Someone on the bus today was reading aloud-and loudly-from Kevin Trudeau's book.

I was a in a mood and had to point out that Trudeau's a charlatan and actual doctors and dieticians think he's full of shit. (I didn't phrase it in quite those terms).


GravatarI suspect there are 'amateur'scientist who annoy the heck out of 'professional' ones.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 3:01 pm | #


Zat's for sure - consider the various engineers who champion intelligent design or claim to have refuted global warming or quantum mechanics.

But the contempt for "buffs" seems limited to more political disciplines.


GravatarWere you trying to say something 4LG?


GravatarDid I mention that I planted sixty coleus this morning? I am inordinately proud of myself!


GravatarI notice you're afraid to play me again after I beat you. I keed, I keed. qlª

I've been too busy to start something - my last three games have taken about two weeks, but you'll be hearing from me.


GravatarOy, V4V, Dan Abrams did a segment on it where everyone declared the pastor had thrown Barack under the bus by calling him just another politician. It was awful. The only one who stood up for him was O'Donnell.


GravatarBiking in the buff, that's our pantless one.


Off to solve the ills of the world.


GravatarCat got ur tung?


GravatarArianna Huffington is taking your calls on c-span2/BookTV, about media antics etc.
-


GravatarDid I mention that I planted sixty coleus this morning? I am inordinately proud of myself!
Hecate


Yeah, but how do your legs & back feel?


GravatarYeah, but how do your legs & back feel?

I am going to be sore in the morning!!! But it was sunny today and supposed to be rainy tomorrow, so I wanted to get them in.


GravatarI was a in a mood and had to point out that Trudeau's a charlatan and actual doctors and dieticians think he's full of shit.

I lost ten pounds on the Doonesbury Diet!


GravatarKos has a vote up on whether Wright threw our boy under the bus, 7 said yes, over 70 against.

My my the press is certainly getting twitchy fangs these days.


Gravatarsorry, the reverend post was for el.


GravatarElias | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:08 pm | #

Stop trying to pick a fight. People are enjoying themselves here.


GravatarBut the contempt for "buffs" seems limited to more political disciplines.
rootless-e | 04.26.08 - 3:07 pm |


I don't have contempt for all buffs. There are an awful lot of people out there without the proper 'papers' who are damn good at understanding history, sociolgy, etc.

But as already repeated, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, whether that's someone with a ph.d. or not.

I have one retired doc who thinks because he's read one book on Armenia he's an expert. No, you're not. And while I might trust him on medical matters I wouldn't trust him on undertanding history because frankly he's got no sense about it, no understanding of the psychology of human behavior.


GravatarI lost ten pounds on the Doonesbury Diet!

Must I remind you that newsprint isnt edible?


GravatarStop trying to pick a fight. People are enjoying themselves here.
Apostate
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You'd make a good NBA ref. Never call it on the player who gives the cheap shot.


GravatarStop trying to pick a fight. People are enjoying themselves here.

Ignore him.

He's a stupid little concern troll.


GravatarI was a in a mood and had to point out that Trudeau's a charlatan and actual doctors and dieticians think he's full of shit.

I lost ten pounds on the Doonesbury Diet!
JeffCO | 04.26.08 - 3:10 pm |


Part of the appeal of that is so many people want the quick fix. And we're not good at understanding medical test results and studies and that sort of thing.


GravatarI am a junk buff. Don't expect me to throw anything away.


GravatarHe's a stupid little concern troll.
fourlegsgood, on the fringe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Why don't you find somewhere else to go so intelligent people can discuss important issues. I hear instant messenger is really good.


Gravatarql


Hope you've been able to get out a bit; is Mr. ql doing better?


GravatarHe's a stupid little concern troll. - fourlegsgood

Or a troll of little concern to the rest of us.

Now, 'mout.


GravatarI am going to be sore in the morning!!!

I was reminded the other day again why extending the retirement age for S.S. is a stupid idea. I was watching the woman at the quilt store cut my fabric. She's about my age. I remarked she must have a strong back to be bending over all day and then hefting bolts of fabric around the store. She told me when she goes home at night she literally can't do anything but sit in an easy chair. No cooking, shopping or anything else. She said her back and legs just can't give anymore after a full day in the store.


GravatarWhy don't you find somewhere else to go so intelligent people can discuss important issues. I hear instant messenger is really good.

Please eat shit and die. 4LG is a long-standing and well-loved member of this community. Apostate tried to give you some good advice. You ought to take it.


GravatarYou'd make a good NBA ref. Never call it on the player who gives the cheap shot.

You are intent on poking people with your stick:

Get the fuck out!

and then trying to bait them further.

You're tedious, but you're just enough to send me back to work. Enjoy your futile hostility.


GravatarAnd in totally unrelated news..

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Federal prosecutors are investigating Wachovia Corp. as part of a broad probe of alleged laundering of drug proceeds by Mexican and Colombian money-transfer companies, the Wall Street Journal reported Saturday, citing people familiar with the matter.


Gravatar remarked she must have a strong back to be bending over all day and then hefting bolts of fabric around the store. She told me when she goes home at night she literally can't do anything but sit in an easy chair. No cooking, shopping or anything else. She said her back and legs just can't give anymore after a full day in the store.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:15 pm | #


My mom was a nurse, with a very bad back. Dad also had back problems. They'd put in their 8-9 hours at work and we'd eat dinner and then they couldn't do anything else all evening. I came home from school so I could take care of the house and yard.


GravatarI have one retired doc who thinks because he's read one book on Armenia he's an expert. No, you're not. And while I might trust him on medical matters I wouldn't trust him on undertanding history because frankly he's got no sense about it, no understanding of the psychology of human behavior.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 3:12 pm | #


Sure. A "buff" who claims to be an "expert" is annoying. Physicists are particularly good at believing that they have a natural expertise in all fields. But enthusiasts are good. - and it's good for people to have some skepticism for credentials especially when it comes to public policy. The obvious case in point
http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/
or
http://www.victorhanson.com/

I'm just reacting to the dismissive tone of "history buff".


Gravatarederal prosecutors are investigating Wachovia Corp. as part of a broad probe of alleged laundering of drug proceeds by Mexican and Colombian money-transfer companies, the Wall Street Journal reported Saturday, citing people familiar with the matter.

Gotta make up for those bad loans somehow.


GravatarChris Long, son of Howie Long, picked by the Rams.


GravatarOr a troll of little concern to the rest of us.
~~```

"us." Re: Obama supporters. That's rich. Do you live in a gated community in real life?


GravatarHecate, thanks. Yes, we went to the potluck last night and have been enjoying the patio during the day.


GravatarPlease eat shit and die. 4LG is a long-standing and well-loved member of this community. Apostate tried to give you some good advice. You ought to take it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'll make you a deal.
I will leave here forever and never come back again if you do one thing:

Admit that you know I'm not this Jeremiah Elias.


GravatarBut as already repeated, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

"A little learning is a dangerous thing
Drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring:
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
And drinking largely sobers us again"
/A Pope


Gravatarql, tell your friend those support belts really work. Usually a good selection at home depot and the hardware store. I have one for stacking and splitting wood.


Gravatarby the way, hanson's blog has the following, must not miss speaking engagement

Host: Objectivist Club's Middle East Forum
Topic: The Threat of Totalitarian Islam
Where: UC Berkeley 2050 Valley Life Science Building
Time: 7:00 PM
For more info: email media@aynrand.org

Not many people know that the "D" in Hanson's initials stands for "charlatan", but that like most else about him, the spelling is wrong.


GravatarYeah, war is a terrible. Why not put all the heads of gov't in one room and let them duke it out, instead of so many innocents dying for a gov't that does give a shit about them.


GravatarPart of the appeal of that is so many people want the quick fix. And we're not good at understanding medical test results and studies and that sort of thing. Buckeye

My results may not be typical.


GravatarPlease eat shit and die. 4LG is a long-standing and well-loved member of this community. Apostate tried to give you some good advice. You ought to take it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

BTW, I'm not sure if your friend NTodd would agree with that.


Gravatar"A little learning is a dangerous thing
Drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring:
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
And drinking largely sobers us again"
/A Pope
JeffCO | 04.26.08 - 3:19 pm | #


There is no-one as ignorant as a man who has read one book - Voltaire.


GravatarBTW, I'm not sure if your friend NTodd would agree with that.
Elias X


They may have their differences but they agree about you.


GravatarWhy don't you find somewhere else to go so intelligent people can discuss important issues.

Since all of us think you're a tedious, dog-fucking, sack-biting, ignorant asshat. presumably you're the one who will have to find somewhere else to go to find your intelligent people to bore to self-immolation with your onerous, self-important drone.

Now fuck off. I've already sworn once never to address you again, and maybe this time I'll actually achieve it.


GravatarGuess you want me to stay then.


Gravatarjust the knowledge that there is a "middle east forum" of the "objectivist club" is deeply disturbing. At some point, people will tamper with deep ignorance at a level that will break the fundamental operation of the universe.


GravatarFeed troll ⇒ troll shit
-


Gravatarclimbing out of a climate-change-induced South Dakota snowbank today, famed Nobelist, Oscarist and Global Warming Alarmist/Hoaxster/Huckster, Albert Antoinette Gore, Jr., issues yet another statement to the world's grain-starved poor:

"Fear not, ye peons and peasants of Gaia, science tells us that people who restrict their calorie-intake live longer.."


GravatarThe Faclons selected Matt Ryan.


GravatarWas anyone else unimpressed with Bill Maher last night? Gary Shandling was obnoxious and not to funny (imo)--I wanted to hear more from Phil Donahue.

Maybe it was just me, but I thought the program was very flat for the final show of this season.


GravatarRemember when dith used to call himself 'dith'?

Good times.


GravatarLuby

Get a soap box and a corner or walk the streets with a sandwich board like the other wingnuts.


GravatarGet a soap box and a corner or WANK the streets with a sandwich board like the other wingnuts.

fixed yr typo


GravatarRemember when dith used to call himself 'dith'?

I miss hearing about the clandestine anti-dhim meeting they held on riverboats in the heartland. Frothy!


GravatarPreference maximization, hm?

I've taught Micro101 many, many, many times and never did I have a reason to use that particular term.


GravatarI miss hearing about the clandestine anti-dhim meeting they held on riverboats in the heartland. Frothy!

...and as pure as a gambler's cigar!


GravatarPreference maximization, hm? I've taught Micro101 many, many, many times and never did I have a reason to use that particular term.

She was trying to say she's tired of dating micro guys.


GravatarI would have been posting on this thread earlier but was out weeding in the yard. Imagine my fright when both of the neighbors dogs charged the fence where I was kneeling. Fortunately had my pistol handy and emptied it into the dogs. I was never more frightened as I reloaded in order to empty the gun again into them.

Now some of you may feel I was overreacting but I acted in self defense and hell, they were only dogs.


Gravatar Hall, 23, was raised in a Protestant family in North Carolina and dropped out of school. It wasn't until he joined the Army that he began questioning religion, eventually deciding he couldn't follow any faith.

But he feared how that would look to other soldiers.

"I was ashamed to say that I was an atheist," Hall said.

It eventually came out in Iraq in 2007, when he was in a firefight. Hall was a gunner on a Humvee, which took several bullets in its protective shield. Afterward, his commander asked whether he believed in God, Hall said.

"I said, 'No, but I believe in Plexiglas,"' Hall said. "I've never believed I was going to a happy place. You get one life. When I die, I'm worm food."


Wow, a functioning brain amidst all of the fucking sheep!

The issue came to a head when, according to Hall, a superior officer, Maj. Freddy J. Welborn, threatened to bring charges against him for trying to hold a meeting of atheists in Iraq. Welborn has denied Hall's allegations.

Hey, Freddy: thou shalt not lie.

Fuckhead.


GravatarNice, our Army cannot protect one of it's own.

Strange that diversity has existed since forever, yet our military seems to allow this crap to boil up time and again.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/26...r.ap/ index.html

"The Army told him it couldn't protect him and sent him back to Fort Riley. He resumed duties with a military police battalion. "


GravatarHow about enjoying some music by Clinic ?


GravatarComplimentary “Hello in There” Ringtone

We had an apartment in the city,
Me and Loretta liked living there.
Well, it'd been years since the kids had grown,
A life of their own left us alone.
John and Linda live in Omaha,
And Joe is somewhere on the road.
We lost Davy in the Korean war,
And I still don't know what for, don't matter anymore.

Chorus:
Ya' know that old trees just grow stronger,
And old rivers grow wilder ev'ry day.
Old people just grow lonesome
Waiting for someone to say, "Hello in there, hello."

Me and Loretta, we don't talk much [ More Prine John Lyrics ]


GravatarOops, sorry, didn't realize I was duplicating what came before.


Gravatarbecause frankly he's got no sense about it, no understanding of the psychology of human behavior.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins


Maybe too serious for this time of day.

It's been my impression that when financial pain reaches the point of missing payments and having the utilities turned off some otherwise normal people really, really resent those not struggling.

I wonder if we are there yet or it's just around the corner.


GravatarFrankly, given the choice between the namestealing tragedy troll, the namestealing gun troll, and the namestealing poop troll, I prefer the poop troll.


GravatarMcCardle's the type of person who makes up a term and hopes no one that hears it will admit they don't know what it means and ask her to explain it.

Which kinda sums up wingnuts in general, a bunch of blowhards, making up stuff and patting each other on the back for their "accomplishments."


Gravatar"It's been my impression that when financial pain reaches the point of missing payments and having the utilities turned off some otherwise normal people really, really resent those not struggling.

I wonder if we are there yet or it's just around the corner."
--Gimlet

This country has gotten too expensive for the majority of the people to live in.


Gravatar"This country has gotten too expensive for the majority of the people to live in."

Filled the Ranger again. 49.99 for a full tank. A Ranger of all things.

And I was unhappy that the pump was slow, making it an agonizing crawl to the final total. I need to go back to doing half tanks just to lessen the shock.


Gravatarbecause frankly he's got no sense about it, no understanding of the psychology of human behavior.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins

Maybe too serious for this time of day.

It's been my impression that when financial pain reaches the point of missing payments and having the utilities turned off some otherwise normal people really, really resent those not struggling.

I wonder if we are there yet or it's just around the corner.
Gimlet | 04.26.08 - 3:35 pm |


I don't even think it's resentment of those not struggling, it's resentment of those not struggling and flaunting it, and being dismissive of those who are struggling.


GravatarThis country has gotten too expensive for the majority of the people to live in.
mer


Maybe not the majority yet. And those that are struggling still have hope resting on the changes that come with the fall election.

But the attitude of resentment toward those that "undeservedly" have it better than you is barely a step below violence.


Gravatarscroll down for classic pic of Hill

http://tinyurl.com/yb4ql9


Gravatar
Is that the historian way of saying 'bless your heart'?


Pretty close.  Rule of thumb is, if you trained as something and are credentialled as something, you don't really get to spring off into entirely new territory with the same qualifications....


GravatarI've taught Micro101 many, many, many times and never did I have a reason to use that particular term.
Echidne | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:30 pm | #


Used to believe
in communist lies
but general pinochet
plucked one of my eyes
and now i rejoice
in economic freedom
alla time
in a mass grave
with plenty
of lime.


GravatarFresh sheets blowing in the breeze...


GravatarHoley sheets.


GravatarHow courageous of the little cowrd J Elias to refer to NTodd after he's left for his ride.

You're a twit, and your utube selections suck, Jeremiah.


GravatarWhen did Atrios move off of blogspot?

Damn Job, I miss everythong these days.


Gravatar


By the nineteenth century the concept of interest made possible a flexible type of social analysis, with interests opposing one another, blocking one another, reinforcing one another, and so on. Individuals had their interests and so did groups; there was "the public interest" as well as the interests of each and every citizen. The concept of interest also plays a key role in the analysis of such subtle thinkers as John Stuart Mill and Tocqueville. Toward the end of the century, however, economists began to restrict the term to mean exclusively "economic interests" and eventually also to replace it with other terms, such as utility and preferences. Economic interest now became part of homo economicus, that is, of the isolated, all-knowing, and maximizing economic agent (see, e.g., Persky 1995). Instead of suggesting hypotheses to be explored empirically, the analysis now began as well as ended with (economic) interests. A restricted type of interest analysis, in brief, began to replace the rich and complex type of interest analysis that had been used during the earlier centuries. During the twentieth century this tendency solidified and is still the one that prevails in economics and, to a large extent, in social science as a whole.


Gravatar


A second important debate I see is the one over the issue of value. One of the crucial contributions sociology can make to the understanding of the economy is to explain how it happens that actors attribute value to certain goods and services. Émile Durkheim has made an attempt to solve this issue by relating value to “social opinion.” Georg Simmel has addressed this question, for instance, in his theory of fashion. Economists do not have much to say about preference formation. This is because you cannot understand value from an individualistic perspective and many aspects relevant for the valuation of goods originate outside the economic sphere. Value is in most markets genuinely social in character.


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While preferences are the conventional foundation of microeconomics, it is convenient to represent preferences with a utility function and reason indirectly about preferences with utility functions.


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