Of course Pat Buchanan thinks Panetta should retract his statement. Why waste the time asking?
geor3ge |
06.16.09 - 12:31 pm | #
Is that related to dagnabbit?
Soprano, sempre libera
And Golldurnit
olexicon, mike sass |
06.16.09 - 12:32 pm | #
Well the fact that Atrios refuses to turn this site green shows that he hates not only The Troops but also Freedom Itself.
sdf (Stu) |
06.16.09 - 12:32 pm | #
I remember only upperdownvote.
sdf (Stu) |
06.16.09 - 12:33 pm | #
Up or down what with the who now? I just heard Matthews yesterday talking about what the Dems needed to do to get 60 votes on healthcare.
Jay C. |
06.16.09 - 12:33 pm | #
What was it -- last year? I was just a blastocyst then.
Soprano, sempre libera |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:34 pm | #
Big Dick hates America, as does Dumbya. That's been obvious for years.
Lime Rickey |
06.16.09 - 12:34 pm | #
I've said it before, and, like the original speaker, I'll say it again.
Villago Delenda Est
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.16.09 - 12:34 pm | #
Up or down what with the who now? I just heard Matthews yesterday talking about what the Dems needed to do to get 60 votes on healthcare.
Jay C. |
Baucus and the other DINOs are trying to derail the reconciliation (50 vote) margin so they can say they had to kill the public option to get to 60 votes.
BlueinColorado |
06.16.09 - 12:34 pm | #
Who the blank tries to get out of giving a *virtual* beverage?
Sigh. I have to stop being a worthless waste of bench space and go make some RNA now. Yoof will be hearing from my legal team about the coke. L8trz.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 12:35 pm | #
Does anyone remember laughter?
Do you wanna laugh or cryyyyyyyyyyyy......
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:35 pm | #
But this premise - voting against funding = hating military and killing troops - was fully incorporated into the basic mainstream press narrative for years.
"That was different. Because... well, just because. Leave me alone, you moran!"
-- wingnut
Certified Mutant Enemy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:35 pm | #
i have to give atrios credit for having the energy to point out the obvious after all of these years of same shit different issue
Syd B |
06.16.09 - 12:36 pm | #
Do you wanna laugh or cryyyyyyyyyyyy......
AndyMN, Unalloted
Heh, good one.
Here, have some Nipalese money.
From the land of Nipple.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 12:36 pm | #
I love how evil they are.
But I find the sheer stupidity and craveness of the media maddening.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:36 pm | #
It changes your driving in ways you don't even realize.
My kids do wear their seatbelts, btw.
ms fahrenheit fleury malkin
I've seen the aftermath of some nasty crashes on highway driving - including last winter a fatal head-on where a co-worker was driving the striking vehicle (he blacked out from an undetected benign brain tumor). Didn't know it was his vehicle until two days later.
I've had two run-off-road crashes on iced bridges on the IH; all other crashes were urban; most at intersections.
One was a T-Bone from a red-light runner - struck my car right behind the driver's door. I was belted; nary a scratch. Another was a hard rear-ender; had 1/3 of a second to brace. Also belted; also no injury.
.Who the blank tries to get out of giving a *virtual* beverage?
Sheesh.
Well it did make for some mildly entertaining repartee.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 12:37 pm | #
The Transit District is making more Service cuts in September, BUT -- none of them are lines I've ever used.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:37 pm | #
i have to give atrios credit for having the energy to point out the obvious after all of these years of same shit different issue
Syd B
I think the Irony Bird just flew the coop.
Jay C. |
06.16.09 - 12:37 pm | #
Geez the media doesn't notice republican hypocrisy or their own involvement in it?
Who would have thunk it?
Buzzcook |
06.16.09 - 12:37 pm | #
Who the blank tries to get out of giving a *virtual* beverage?
Sheesh.
plantsman, mad google skillz
Virtual? NOW you tell me! I've been pouring coke on my monitor for years!
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:38 pm | #
But this premise - voting against funding = hating military and killing troops - was fully incorporated into the basic mainstream press narrative for years.
They were lying then, they are lying now.
~
Meander |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:38 pm | #
I think the Irony Bird just flew the coop.
Jay C. |
Shot dead by Alanis?
sdf (Stu) |
06.16.09 - 12:38 pm | #
if we bend the rules here, it means gatorada will have won.
Virtual? NOW you tell me! I've been pouring coke on my monitor for years!
ellroon, smolderingwreckian | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 12:38 pm | #
darn, i bet thats why my monitor was flashing.
pretzel |
06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
OK, I know this will be shocking and upsetting, but the Demokrats are just as unethical and hypocritical as the Republikans. It has been said all politicians have two ends a thinking end and a sitting end. Since their entire future and success depends on their keeping their seats. Why bother?
Texas Hill Country Tom |
06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
That might account for the sugary sizzle and icky, sticky residue.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
I remember when I used to see you jumpin' rope (skippin' rope), up and down, baby.
Roadmaster, Vinyl Addict |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
euphronius is a born lawyer, poor fella.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
Left or right vote!
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
I think the Irony Bird just flew the coop.
Jay C. | 06.16.09 - 12:37 pm | #
--
Not even close, Tom; but thanks for proving you deserve Killfile.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:40 pm | #
Matt y does what a lot of liberals do - gnashes, then buys right into the narrative and begs for mercy.
I dare them to vote against this bill.
When I was in politics, we would hope they would votes against something like this and go to fucking town on the Republican. Sorry, but that's life.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:40 pm | #
euphronius is a born lawyer, poor fella.
What was that a few threads back about being raised in GOP country but still turned out OK?
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:40 pm | #
Iran to Recount Some Votes in Disputed Election
Voice of America - 43 minutes ago
By VOA News Iran's powerful Guardian Council says it will recount some votes in a disputed presidential election that has triggered the country's largest street protests in 30 years.
We shoulda been so lucky in 2000.
Move on, we were told.
Lime Rickey |
06.16.09 - 12:41 pm | #
the republican party has the advantage of having a mass of idiots who can be made to salivate on cue
But it’s possible that some “other shoe” or two may drop—most likely the meltdown of an Eastern European country—and the IMF exists to stop that kind of thing from happening.
Why do Republicans hate Estonia?
sdf (Stu) |
06.16.09 - 12:42 pm | #
I wonder if IRan will get its recount done before Al Franken is sworn in.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 12:42 pm | #
Not to be all pro-Gore, but it's not like he surrendered overnight. He had his lawyers, it went on for weeks, they went all the way to the Scotus, etc.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:42 pm | #
Since their entire future and success depends on their keeping their seats. Why bother?
Texas Hill Country Tom | 06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
Oh, STFU Naderite scum.
That nihilistic bullshit doesn't fly and it never has. They can do better.
One Dem who can hammer the Thugs for their lies and cowardice and can keep up the pressure. They'll crack like cheap Xmas ornament.
~
Meander |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:43 pm | #
It's ironic, like owing a Coke for a comment about Clarence Thomas.
Jay C. |
Not that anybody would want that particular Coke ...
sdf (Stu) |
06.16.09 - 12:43 pm | #
Tell you what Atrios, please plan a trip out to Portland, Oregon and we'll put together a conference, perhaps on urban planning and transportation. We'll visit my inner/older suburbia house (using mass transit only) as well as my city rental house. You can explain to me why my city house would have been the better place to continue raising my kids, and why they now live in a hell hole. I'll be interested in hearing specifics as to what is so superior at the city house. Schools? Fewer video games? More room to play frisbee?
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 12:43 pm | #
meander that was buttle.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 12:43 pm | #
Problem with that is that people don't want to buy one car for in-town, and another car for road trips.
VictorLaszlo
Actually, that is not really true. I know a lot of people who have what I have: Honda and a large (vehicle) van. We use the large van for long trips, the Honda for short ones. (It is just not big enough for Mrs DWD, me, and the two large dogs. (Lexi takes the back seat of the Honda by herself - as does Nikki)
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:44 pm | #
OK, I know this will be shocking and upsetting, but the Demokrats are just as unethical and hypocritical as the Republikans. It has been said all politicians have two ends a thinking end and a sitting end. Since their entire future and success depends on their keeping their seats. Why bother?
Texas Hill Country Tom | 06.16.09 - 12:39 pm | #
democrats are all living manifestations of jah, all knowing and all loving good
while not as powerful lord luntz, democrats are quick off the mark and throw a mean screw ball
they are not to be underestimated in getting great policies that the majority of americans through congress
they are ... in a word - effin'awesome
Syd B |
06.16.09 - 12:44 pm | #
If only there had been blogs that changed their color scheme to Green in November 2000 we would just have finished 8 years of Pres. Gore.
sdf (Stu) |
06.16.09 - 12:44 pm | #
meander that was buttle.
euphronius ahistorical | 06.16.09 - 12:43 pm | #
I would never call a n00b 'Naderite scum'.
~
Meander |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:44 pm | #
If only there had been blogs that changed their color scheme to Earth Tones in November 2000 we would just have finished 8 years of Pres. Gore.
sdf
The Republikans are going to find any excuse to vote down the healthcare bill. There will be Demokrat whores in braineashed conservative districts who will also vote against. Ane do not forget all the greedy whores who will take the money from the big health insurance cabals. One must get re-elected to stay on the gravy train.
Texas Hill Country Tom |
06.16.09 - 12:45 pm | #
euph - where did sebs go?
To play with his kids?
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:45 pm | #
there are enough factual difference between FLA00 and IRAN09 that i am comfortable to really comparing them.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 12:46 pm | #
I have one scooter for riding in-town, and one scooter for riding interstates, if the need arises.
Oh, wait. No, now I just have the interstate one. And it's been in the shop three weeks.
We use the large van for long trips, the Honda for short ones.
We take the Ferrari and the butler follows behind with the Rolls carrying the luggage.
No, not really. Really.
shrimplate |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:47 pm | #
I'll be interested in hearing specifics as to what is so superior at the city house. Schools? Fewer video games? More room to play frisbee?
ErinPDX | 06.16.09 - 12:43 pm | #
From an ecological perspective, city dwelling has a much smaller carbon footprint than suburban dwelling does.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:47 pm | #
KNEEL before your master, Letterman. GROVEL in the dirt, GROVEL. Sarah Palin has won this one BIG TIME.
sonny ablaza |
06.16.09 - 12:47 pm | #
I keep meaning to ask MSNBC since only about 1 in 5 Americans self-identifies as a Republican they feel they MUST have one-to-one Republican to Democratic
"Strategists."
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:47 pm | #
We take the Ferrari and the butler follows behind with the Rolls carrying the luggage.
He works for you? Can you take away his internet access at work, pls?
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:48 pm | #
The US Supreme Court has agreed to take up a case examining whether the Florida Supreme Court violated the private property rights of waterfront landowners in a seven-mile-long beach restoration project.
As long it isn't something silly, like choosing to have a child.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:48 pm | #
Sebs went to Bern to taunt Mimi in the unisex bathroom with dirty needles.
euphronius ahistorical | 06.16.09 - 12:46 pm | #
I hope they met up with Hartmut.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:48 pm | #
Seek help, sonny; Sarah is nobody's Master.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:48 pm | #
I mean, live where you want...whatever lights your board. But imply that I'm a shitty parent for making my teens live in a close-in suburban hellhole. They have the best of both worlds here in Portland, OR. Just a short transit ride into the city.
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 12:48 pm | #
Sebs went to Bern to taunt Mimi in the unisex bathroom with dirty needles.
heh.
That's good, my boy.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:48 pm | #
Hartmut's in Munich, or so it says.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:49 pm | #
Oh, wait. No, now I just have the interstate one. And it's been in the shop three weeks.
To be fair, the IMF (et al) have use this money as a carrot to get countries to do things that hurt themselves and the world economy in the long run. I doubt the GOoPers care about how the IMF uses its power to enforce a certain globalization agenda, but I dunno if it makes much sense for liberals to attack GOoPers for not wanting to give a lot of $$$ to the IMF when some of the worst offenders in IMF malfeasance are currently associated with the White House.
DAS |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:51 pm | #
the war supplemental has no timetable for withdrawal.
I'd rather die than give you control.
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
small town does not fit the dialectic.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
Well, after being all gushy-lovey a week or so ago, meemee's gone Full Chernobyl on me again. No one could have anticipated...
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
Iran's Islamic leadership agreed to conduct a limited refake of votes following last week's disputed presidential election
.
tacitus voltabear
Really just an opportunity to steal it the right way, without all the giveaway 69% margins in questionable districts. A few thousand more for Mousawi and the others can't hurt 'em any. Watch, it'll "work", and the rest of the world, including DC, will buy it, just to get back to the status quo ante they were familiar with...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
Why is the choice city vs suburb? Are there really NO more small towns left in America?
Marcellina
none. we've used up all the land. Next we invade Canada...
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
ive seen several wingnuts this morning claiming palin has won. i have no idea why they claim this.
pretzel |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
Why is the choice city vs suburb? Are there really NO more small towns left in America?
They're all like Blaine, Missouri and only have one apartment where Corky St. Clair lives with his wife Bonnie.
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
Are there really NO more small towns left in America?
But imply that I'm a shitty parent for making my teens live in a close-in suburban hellhole
He's not implying that.
He's simply talking about dependence on cars.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:52 pm | #
I am not interested in being fair.
Obama should include a provision naming Texas Obamistan and declare the GOP hates our soldiers when they vote against the bill.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:53 pm | #
Both an American and an Iraqi Timetable for Withdrawl already exist.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:53 pm | #
And I won't mention the mythical Clean bill Act. I won't.
Clean Bill |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:53 pm | #
Blue Dogs who vote for the supplemental should face primary challengers. anti-war progressives who vote for the supplemental should face primary challengers.
get out your checkbooks, we are gonna have a lot of primary challengers in need of cash.
Some Guy: adjunct |
06.16.09 - 12:53 pm | #
seriously CT
this is how the Dems should act. theyd get more people voting for them imho.
they should name the Texas Railrod commission a terrorist organization.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
"This morning, before what is likely a much larger audience, that of MSNBC's "Morning Joe," its host, Joe Scarborough, asked Schultz if he really believed his own speculation.
Whereupon Mr. Schultz batted not one eyelid: Absolutely, he said.
Whereupon the melodramatic Mr. Scarborough said, "I'm shocked."
Whereupon Mr. Schultz responded with chilling honesty: "That's Dick Cheney." "
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
Participate in Marcellina's Caption Contest!
It's gonna be pretty hard to top Merkin, tho!
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
ive seen several wingnuts this morning claiming palin has won. i have no idea why they claim this.
'Cuz if they don't, they're pedophiles? Just guessin'
Just Anonymous |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
Good Lord. Just spotted a "Jindal 2012" bumper sticker.
Troutski |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
DT'd way back there:
When I was in high school, we had to take Health & Safety (Indiana, early '70s). I took it in summer school -- it mostly consisted of us bringing in newspaper clippings of grisly car crashes and reading them aloud while the wrestling coach (or was he the assistant football coach), rubbed his face and groaned, "Aw jeez. That's terrible. That's awful. Those poor people."
strawhat, avec deux kitties |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
Gotta listen to your big time hard line bad luck fist fuck.
annie |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
Well, after being all gushy-lovey a week or so ago, meemee's gone Full Chernobyl on me again.
Time to build a sarcophagus.
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
Obama should include a provision naming Texas Obamistan and declare the GOP hates our soldiers when they vote against the bill.
C/T, Fair Voter | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 12:53 pm | #
That would be cool. Austin, Obamistan.
rootless-e, hegemonized |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
From an ecological perspective, city dwelling has a much smaller carbon footprint than suburban dwelling does.
Yes indeed.
Unless your kids want to play music and they have none in the city high schools, so you have to drive long distances several times a week to let them be involved in it. Or you have to rent a warehouse for their metal band to practice then drive to the warehouse. Or if you plan to take your 1/2 acre and subdivide it into four units when the kids leave, making it a better footprint. Or if your suburban hellhole is 3 blocks from one of the biggest transit centers in the state, allowing you to practically eliminate car usage.
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
sorry to have put up those incorrect numbers about car accident deaths in Canada
mimi |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:55 pm | #
ive seen several wingnuts this morning claiming palin has won. i have no idea why they claim this.
pretzel
Kneejerk Republican response. They'd planned on standing tall on the smoking rubble of Whatzitstan and yelling that we'd won...
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:55 pm | #
Why is the choice city vs suburb? Are there really NO more small towns left in America?
Marcellina
I like small towns. But malls have killed many of them. And people want bigger plots of land and bigger houses than you usually find in small towns.
The modest three-bedroom ranch on 1/4 acre that I grew up in would be considered a cottage by today's standards.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:55 pm | #
ive seen several wingnuts this morning claiming palin has won. i have no idea why they claim this.
And the last I knew, they had brownie making ovens in the city as well as inner suburbs.
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 12:55 pm | #
I read A man as saying low density suburbs are not good for teens because there are limited options and they are car dependent which wouldn't apply to Portland.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:55 pm | #
They have the best of both worlds here in Portland, OR. Just a short transit ride into the city. - ErinPDX
Kind of the opposite of my neck of the woods in Queens: mass transit is sufficiently bad that you can't really go everywhere you would need to go via it unless you are willing to wait for long periods, make lots of transfers, etc. But once you get that car, there are enough people around (also with cars) that you spend all your time trying to find parking.
And people drive like maniacs to boot.
DAS |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:55 pm | #
Sarah simply has such poor social skills she refuses to accept successive, sincere apologies.
All that shows is TACKY.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:57 pm | #
I like small towns.
I sneer every time I drive through a small town.
Lime Rickey |
06.16.09 - 12:57 pm | #
MALKIN REFUSES TO ACCEPT APOLOGY FROM TV COMEDIAN
"With protests planned and growing anger over his vulgar abuse of the Palin family, David “The Perv” Letterman attempts a belated, half-assed apology tonight on his increasingly unfunny show via TV Week
[...]
Notice that he’s apologizing for the execution of the joke. In other words: If only he had written it more clearly to take aim at Bristol instead of Willow, he wouldn’t have been misunderstood. And he wouldn’t be under the gun having to say he’s sorry for creating the wrong “perception.” He’s sorry he didn’t pull it off better.
His initial, impudent reaction is the honest one. And it won’t be forgotten."
olexicon, mike sass |
06.16.09 - 12:58 pm | #
I sneer every time I drive through a small town.
That's okay. We piss on your car as you drive on by...
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:58 pm | #
Well, I was amazed that the trip from my house to the scooter shop that takes 25-minutes on a 50cc scooter took me almost 2.5 hrs. walking to the bus stop, and taking two buses to get there.
The were the JailBlazers back when Darrell Stoudamire kept getting busted for keys of weed.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:58 pm | #
Sarah simply has such poor social skills she refuses to accept successive, sincere apologies.
All that shows is TACKY.
plantsman, mad google skillz
She's just got her teeth into something that she really knows a lot about ... slutty teenagers. She'll play the indignation card for all its worth for as long as the media will let her.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:58 pm | #
MALKIN REFUSES TO ACCEPT APOLOGY FROM TV COMEDIAN
She's one of Palin's daughters?
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:59 pm | #
I sneer every time I drive through a small town.
That's okay. We piss on your car as you drive on by...
NTodd,שלו |
Makes note to remember to roll up windows when visiting Vermont...
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:59 pm | #
Frankly, I wish ol' Dave'd just taken a pass on Sarah, because I'm sick to death of hearing about her...
Clean Bill |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:59 pm | #
I was born in a small town. . .
Just Anonymous |
06.16.09 - 12:59 pm | #
Here in my suburban hellhole with lots of superfluous green space I just had a great view of a large Red-tailed Hawk siting on top of a light pole. It tolerated me standing there clicking away with my camera for quite some time. Film at 11.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 12:59 pm | #
That's okay. We piss on your car as you drive on by...
NTodd,שלו
I KNEW it was rusting up.
Lime Rickey |
06.16.09 - 1:00 pm | #
Remember when Malkin used to stalk sick kids and their families? Good times...
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:00 pm | #
I just had a great view of a large Red-tailed Hawk siting on top of a light pole. It tolerated me standing there clicking away with my camera
That was a DHS drone in disguise.
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:00 pm | #
Undecideds:
1. Andre Carson 2. Donna Christenson 3. Jim Cooper 4. Danny Davis 5. Bill Delahunt 6. Al Green 7. Phil Hare 8. Maurice Hinchey 9. Paul Hodes 10. Carolyn Maloney 11. Jim Moran 12. Grace Napolitano 13. Donald Payne14. Charles Rangel 15. Laura Richardson 16. Linda Sanchez 17. Bobby Scott 18. John Tanner 19. Ed Towns 20. Peter Welch
Some Guy: adjunct |
06.16.09 - 1:00 pm | #
Well, I was amazed that the trip from my house to the scooter shop that takes 25-minutes on a 50cc scooter took me almost 2.5 hrs. walking to the bus stop, and taking two buses to get there. - Jeffraham
my completely unscientific seat of the pants opinion is a small town is 10k or less.
pretzel |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
And I'm also sick to death of seeing my nyms de snark staring me in the face a couple posts later because I can't remember to clear haloscan's damn cookies...
Clean Bill |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
She'll play the indignation card for all its worth for as long as the media will let her.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian
Yup, it's a two-fer:
She gets to extend her 15 minutes of fame another 30 seconds, and gets to play the victim, which makes all her Jebofascist followers cream with delight.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
I am still hayseed enough to say 'Look who's in the big town'
Syd B |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
Sarah simply has such poor social skills she refuses to accept successive, sincere apologies.
it was never about what Letterman said, it's all about grabbing yet more media attention. She's addicted to it.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
It's the Portland Ablazas.
bo |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
What relatively widespread current word, like Wichita or Uighurs, will Andrea Mitchell mispronounce today?
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
50,000 people? 100,000?
< 50000
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
10K ? o h ok. small small town.
i suppose 50-100K would be a small city?
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:01 pm | #
Red Tails are cool, and don't seem to mind living around people that much. I had one yelling at me for blundering through its hunting ground.
CutUpSound |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:02 pm | #
I actually grew up in a medium density suburb with no mixed use (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Rossmoor,_California).
I actually had dreams about how our 'burb finally had mixed use zoning. When I moved to 'Jerz where you could walk to a corner shop whilst in a nice suburban neighborhood, to me that was the stuff of dreams.
But my suburban teenage years weren't hellaciously boring: we had bicycles that got us to the nearest library, etc.
Anybody remember bicycles?
Of course, I'd hate to try riding a bicycle where I live now ...
DAS |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:02 pm | #
.Here in my suburban hellhole with lots of superfluous green space I just had a great view of a large Red-tailed Hawk siting on top of a light pole. It tolerated me standing there clicking away with my camera for quite some time. Film at 11.
The Old Man From Scene 24 ,
That sounds a lot like my suburban hellhole!
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 1:02 pm | #
IIRC, the FBI used to have a field office in every city/metro area that had at least 35k residents. I don't know if that helps define big/small cities or not, but I thought I'd throw out something useless for internets sake.
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:02 pm | #
the census might have a defintion.
pretzel |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
whats a small town?
one where you can throw a stone from end to end.
bo |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
A Great Place To Raise Children
I get that people think that low density suburbs are great places to raise children. This might be true. But they're generally horrible places for teenagers.
Someone is actually arguing that Atrios isn't making a judgement call on *my* parenting with that headline and post?
I've placed my children into a horrible place. spank me now.
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
as i understand it, a couple of the palin women like to get their fuck on and this fact has caused some pain to that hayseed dave letterman
Syd B |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
i suppose 50-100K would be a small city?
Yep. Even 25000-50000 is not all that small.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
That was a DHS drone in disguise.
DOH!
I should have guessed! Very impressive animatronics, though. Almost it was lifelike!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
My suburban hellhole claims to own the largest amount of open space per capita of any municipality in the US. Seems hard to believe that, but that's what its Wiki says.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
Good Lord. Just spotted a "Jindal 2012" bumper sticker.
Troutski | 06.16.09 - 12:54 pm | #
Just proves that delusion is eternal.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:03 pm | #
whats a small town?
50,000 people? 100,000?
euphronius ahistorical
I'd say 50,000. Where I live, currently around 120-130,000, I'd call that a small city.
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
Small town, in my def, is pop < 1,500 and at not within 25 miles of an urbanized area as defined by the US Census.
Roadmaster, Vinyl Addict |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
Even Joe Scar and Murphy said if she wants to be President should stop saying stupid shit just to get on tv.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
not only can no politician vote against military spending, but republicans have consolidated the whole thing as a game of chicken and one-upmanship to see which party is the most pro-military by proposing the biggest increases in military spending each year. Its why we have the most bloated, criminally obscene, military spending in the history of humanity. The lost opportunity cost of the worse-than-useless, porkbarrel military is literally a crime against humanity.
.
pluege |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
I understand why the Chyron-typers at MSNBC misspell things, they're low paid drones; but "Veteran Reporter" Andrea should know how to tawk.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
What relatively widespread current word, like Wichita or Uighurs, will Andrea Mitchell mispronounce today? - plantsman
Walnut Creek is like 60k peeps.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
Good Lord. Just spotted a "Jindal 2012" bumper sticker.
Troutski |
Was a Mayan driving?
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
1500 people? dear god. thats not many people at all.
i like the 50K ish number.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
That sounds a lot like my suburban hellhole!
Well you get to custom build your own suburban hellhole.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:05 pm | #
I'm sick to death of any kind of walkback by anybody. DON'T apologize fer gawd's sake, Letterman and Panetta and others! Copy the Bush administration and just roll right over the rumpus.
The wingnuts take any kind of apology or explanation as a sign of weakness and I'm tired of using truth and facts and history to educate them.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:05 pm | #
Even Joe Scar and Murphy said if she wants to be President should stop saying stupid shit just to get on tv.
C/T, Fair Voter | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:04 pm | #
pluege thats some good hyperbole. I agree.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:05 pm | #
Like I just didn't again...
And anyways, this is gonna sound all concern-trollie, but it's really a low-rent Deep Thought; Did the Dems maybe put the IMF bit in the funding bill just to get the Reps to lose their cool, sort of on cue? Like trained slugs? I hate this shit, and that's why every once in a while I bring up the Mythical Clean Bill Act (which will never happen because each side delights in pulling this crap on the other...)
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
I'm sick to death of any kind of walkback by anybody. DON'T apologize fer gawd's sake, Letterman and Panetta and others! Copy the Bush administration and just roll right over the rumpus.
The wingnuts take any kind of apology or explanation as a sign of weakness and I'm tired of using truth and facts and history to educate them.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian
I don't know why liberals in general and elected Democrats in particular have so much trouble understanding this.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
Undecideds:
1. Andre Carson 2. Donna Christenson 3. Jim Cooper 4. Danny Davis 5. Bill Delahunt 6. Al Green 7. Phil Hare 8. Maurice Hinchey 9. Paul Hodes 10. Carolyn Maloney 11. Jim Moran 12. Grace Napolitano 13. Donald Payne14. Charles Rangel 15. Laura Richardson 16. Linda Sanchez 17. Bobby Scott 18. John Tanner 19. Ed Towns 20. Peter Welch
Just got off the phone with Welch's office, imploring him to once again vote no.
Receptionist had trouble spelling my name and couldn't find me in the database, then went, "ah, Todd, yes, I'll let the Congressman know." LOL.
Hopefully will get a meeting with him before the July 4th recess. I've requested an hour to exchange notes since he was in Gaza recently at my behest, and tried to get us in last week. Good guy, but of course a politician...
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
From an ecological perspective, city dwelling has a much smaller carbon footprint than suburban dwelling does.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
The problem with generalizations is that they all omit certain aspects of the problem (including this one, I suppose.)
I would actually say our carbon footprint is pretty low comparatively.
Yes, we do drive when we need to go somewhere - but where we go is usually pretty close to home. (A mile to the grocery stores and restaurants - that sort of thing.
Our house is very energy efficient - massively insulated - and heating bills run about $125 in the winter and cooling bills about $80 in the summer. A lot of the time we use the minimum.
My sister who lives in Chicago drives much more than we do. Much more.
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
Giant eagles will fly out of my butt before Sarah Palin gets elected president.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
My suburban hellhole claims to own the largest amount of open space per capita of any municipality in the US. Seems hard to believe that, but that's what its Wiki says.
Slartibartfast
they must be counting that devil mountain thingy
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
Red-tailed hawks in Manhattan.
Wow! those are some fantastic photographs.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
Besides, ChiDy is busy in the garden, Erin.
bo |
06.16.09 - 1:07 pm | #
Good Lord. Just spotted a "Jindal 2012" bumper sticker.
Troutski
Saw a car that had cut off the McCain off of a McCain/Palin sticker. That would be a hilarious campaign Jindal v Palin for repub candidate....
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:07 pm | #
Small town, in my def, is pop < 1,500 and at not within 25 miles of an urbanized area as defined by the US Census.
We hit 1200 last census, finally putting humans over the cows (several head of cattle died in a lightening strike).
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:07 pm | #
Small town, in my def, is pop < 1,500 and at not within 25 miles of an urbanized area as defined by the US Census.
I'd go a little larger than that, say 10 grand. I like your 25 mi urban qualifier.
You know where I grew up. I lived in a town of 6000 with towns of 12000 (17 mi), 30000 (30 mi), 5000 (30 mi), and 1200 (22 mi).
We moved to a city of 35000 when I was a teenager and I thought that was the big city.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:08 pm | #
I hope i don't have to apologize for calling David Gregory a moron. Or writing 'god you're dumb'. Or implying he was sniffing glue. Or saying his own son called him a whore. Or-
well you get the idea.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:08 pm | #
Just got off the phone with Welch's office, imploring him to once again vote no.
even though he is a Yes vote, called Kendrik Meek's office and explained this is not a good way to start his race for the Senate.
Some Guy: adjunct |
06.16.09 - 1:08 pm | #
they must be counting that devil mountain thingy
ErinPDX
Nope. Mt Diablo is owned by the state. But they have a lot of open space on its flanks, so that many neighborhoods abut open space that goes all the way to the summit.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 1:08 pm | #
If you like wild hawks in Manhattan, you'll love wild parrots in Brooklyn:
it was never about what Letterman said, it's all about grabbing yet more media attention. She's addicted to it.
She will cheerfully and enthusastically destroy her children's lives for more media attention.
She's a slut. It would be dishonest to characterize her in any other way.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.16.09 - 1:09 pm | #
the FBI used to have a field office in every city/metro area that had at least 35k residents.
J Edgar Hoover was visiting an FBI field office. The visit seemed to go ok, but just before he got on his plane, the Director said, apropos of nothing, "the man's a pinhead! Get rid of him!" The agents didn't know who he was talking about and they were too scared to ask, so they surreptitiously measured everyone's hat size and fired the one with the smallest head. (Cited in "No Left Turns".)
CutUpSound |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:09 pm | #
The problem with generalizations is that they all omit certain aspects of the problem (including this one, I suppose.)
I would actually say our carbon footprint is pretty low comparatively.
Yes, we do drive when we need to go somewhere - but where we go is usually pretty close to home. (A mile to the grocery stores and restaurants - that sort of thing.
Our house is very energy efficient - massively insulated - and heating bills run about $125 in the winter and cooling bills about $80 in the summer. A lot of the time we use the minimum.
My sister who lives in Chicago drives much more than we do. Much more.
DWD | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:06 pm | #
Muskegon (and the surrounding communities - Muskegon Heights, Fruitport, Roosevelt Park, North Muskegon, Norton Shores, and Egelston Township - is around 50 K
In some venues, Whitehall/Montague (14 miles North)and Grand Haven/Spring Lake (8 miles south)would be included in this figure. If that is the case the number is closer to 100 K.
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:09 pm | #
All goes to how you view "Town," "Village," and "City" as definitions.
To me, "City" encompasses places 10,000 or more - IOW, it's gonna have a Wal-Mart.
"Village" is an in-between status - somewhere between 2,000 and 7,500 or so. Small grocer.
"Town" is a rural-area cluster of small businesses, churches, etc. Quik-Trip.
Roadmaster, Vinyl Addict |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:10 pm | #
I don't know why liberals in general and elected Democrats in particular have so much trouble understanding this.
Gummo
Like Reid's sternly written letters for cripe's sake! How damned stupid are those?
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:10 pm | #
Next time you take a Green-Wood walk, make sure to get down to the 5th Avenue gate -- there's a whole colony of them living there.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
All goes to how you view "Town," "Village," and "City" as definitions.
Damn, I'd forgotten about those designations.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
Why is Batman a Superhero if he doesn't have any Superpowers? He's just rich.
annie |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
Village < Town < City.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
She will cheerfully and enthusastically destroy her children's lives for more media attention.
She's a slut. It would be dishonest to characterize her in any other way.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 06.16.09 - 1:09 pm | #
I have to agree with you.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
Hubert H. Humphrey once said that, without professional sports, the Twin Cities would be a "cold Omaha". There's a reason he got a dome and charter airline terminal named after him.
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
All goes to how you view "Town," "Village," and "City" as definitions.
Really, it's how they're incorporated. We only have 5 cities in Vermont.
NTodd,שלו |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:11 pm | #
it was never about what Letterman said, it's all about grabbing yet more media attention. She's addicted to it.
Radio interview of the guy who wrote The Fame Formula: fame lasts 15 months on its own, after that you have to do something to get yourself back in the news.
I am 100% certain that she and all politicians, like celebrities, believe this and keep their names in the paper any way they can.
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:12 pm | #
IOW, it's gonna have a Wal-Mart. - Roadmaster, Vinyl Addict
I don't think Manhattan has a Wal-Mart. Does that make it not a city but an example of small town 'murka?
DAS |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
*BWAAAAKKKK!*
GUMMO WANT A CRACKER?
*BWAAAAKKKK!*
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
What about hamlets?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
a village can not have more than one traffic light.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
Todd is right. New York has 5 boroughs and 5 counties but one Mayor. Greenwich Village has a Pope.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
If Mooselini had half a brain she'd realize that the Republican party has already thrown her in the ashtray.
Slartibartfast |
06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
Hamlet < Village.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:14 pm | #
Why is Batman a Superhero if he doesn't have any Superpowers? He's just rich.
annie
Because he can and will beat the everloving shit out of the likes of you.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:14 pm | #
GUMMO WANT A CRACKER?
*BWAAAAKKKK!*
Billy B
Sorry, buddy, cracker or not, you're not my type.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:14 pm | #
BG,
IF we included Grand Rapids and environs (30 miles) and Holland (26 miles) in our figures, it would be much closer to 1,000,000.
I know my sister drives much LONGER than we do. We can leave here and be in downtown GR in about 35 minutes. In Chicago, 35 minutes is about what it takes her to traverse the Damned Ryan from 115th St to the Loop.
And we are less than 3 hours from Chicago - 90 minutes from Lansing - and 3.5 hours from Detroit. (And four and a half HOURS from teh Bridge)
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:14 pm | #
All goes to how you view "Town," "Village," and "City" as definitions.
Really, it's how they're incorporated. We only have 5 cities in Vermont.
NTodd,שלו
Well, state law, too. Far as I can tell (I've never looked it up in the Texas Government Code, which I think is where it was codified after I stopped practicing), Texas doesn't recognize "village" as a legal designation.
Lots of "villages" near me that call themselves "City of _______ Village," for example.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:14 pm | #
If you like wild hawks in Manhattan, you'll love wild parrots in Brooklyn:
We have wild parrots too.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
GUMMO WANT A CRACKER?
Well, the Palins are in town.
C/T, Fair Voter |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
What about hamlets?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
A cut of meat you get from piglets?
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
Samhita over at Feministing over the Palin Letterman kerfluffle.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:13 pm | #
I have no problem saying that Sarah Palin is a jerk because of her politics, yet I don't think it is OK to make sexist jokes about her or her daughters.
I don't get where saying that Alex Rodriguez knocked up Bristol is sexist. It's just as much of an indictment of him as it is of her.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
Hamlets, I'm not sure.
C/T, Fair Voter
Neither are they.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
Out here it's a matter of affectation. Los Altos CoC like to refer to it as "The Village", but there are no "town" or "village" designations. You incorporate, you're a city.
bo |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
hamlets are pretty crazy places. very depressing.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
We have wild parrots too.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST
I would think your climate was more to their liking than ours, but they're thriving here.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
What about hamlets?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
Too guilt ridden to be of much use.
Well, this information just flips Hamlet out.
He starts walkin' like this, with spit hangin' out his mouth.
His eyes are all bleary and his tongue looks worse,
And he's talkin' in couplets and blank fuckin' verse.
I mean the dude is indecisive,
He don't know how he'd like his eggs,
And he's got no opinion on tits, ass or legs.
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
plantsman, or Herb as I prefer to call you, what a sneaky litte drama queen you are.
don't let facts get in the way of your story.
you're just jealous because Hartmut pays no attention to you.
twhat's funny is that he is no homophobe because he likes le to engage Incog. your nasty little personality doesn't appeal to him though.
mimi |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
What about hamlets?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
Everybody dies in the end.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
We have wild parrots too.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:15 pm | #
And cute little bats!
You just don't expect wild parrots in Brooklyn. It gets cold here.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
My recollection is that Ohio had population limits for city, township, village, etc.
Lots of bedroom suburbs of Cleveland back in the day were villages - Bay Village, Mayfield Village, etc.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
i believe i am owed cokes.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
We have wild parrots too. - fourlegsgood
Likewise SF and Sunnyvale, CA.
bo |
06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
Hmmmm......how to prioritize....how to prioritize.....
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:18 pm | #
here is one:
Town= one high school.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:18 pm | #
A village has a white church people. The others do not.
Lime Rickey
Fixt that for you/nc
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:18 pm | #
This supplemental vote is interesting. Jane Hamsher (at FDL) wants the vote to fail, because she wants us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. The GOP seem to want the bill to fail not only to deny the IMF its money, but to embarrass Obama and the Democrats generally.
I'd like to see us out of Iraq today, and Afghanistan in six months or so. On the other hand, I'm fine with the money to the IMF. (Matt links to this very short piece by Nina Hachigian at the Center for American Progress which makes a strong case for the IMF getting $5B from us.)
Hey, if Team Obama wants the bill, that's OK with me, at least for the time being. It seems to me voting against this money is not the best way to get us out of theatre, in any case. So long as we're there, I want the troops well equipped.
But it's interesting to see Jane and some other people I respect greatly on the same side as Team Red, at least, that's my impression.
David Derbes, optimistic |
06.16.09 - 1:18 pm | #
And he's got no opinion on tits, ass or legs.
DWD | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
Is that Lord Buckley?
rootless-e, hegemonized |
06.16.09 - 1:18 pm | #
drive by Stoopid Kumputer Kweshun: does anyone know why the new scanner/printer/fax i'm installing comes with four discs, but only one of them is accepted by my machine? the other three all got spit out as unreadable. i, um, sort of lost the manual during the crazeeness here, so i'm not sure what they are supposed to be for. they say "vista" as part of the disc title, is that bc it refers to the OS for PCs and thus i don't need to use the discs on my mac? i think so, but i thought i'd check here with you Smart People. thanks.
chicago dyke, computerized |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:19 pm | #
Hmmmm......how to prioritize....how to prioritize.....
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist
Much more fun to talk about one stupid person than the world melting down...
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:19 pm | #
1500 people? dear god. thats not many people at all.
I went to skool in Lowell In, pop 3000. Crown Point, the county seat, at 10,000, was the Big City...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:19 pm | #
FERAL PARROTS!
Jeffraham, w/borrowed Fiddle
Another mark on the side of the suburbs in the ongoing urban/suburban wars.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:19 pm | #
A plague o both those louses.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:19 pm | #
Here in Saskatchewan
City = Over 5,000 population or what you woudl call a village
olexicon, mike sass |
06.16.09 - 1:19 pm | #
We have wild parrots too.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST
I would think your climate was more to their liking than ours, but they're thriving here.
Gummo | 06.16.09 - 1:16 pm | #
THey nest in the big lights that surround our intramural fields.
I had no idea parrots had been in Brooklyn since the 60's.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:20 pm | #
Another mark on the side of the suburbs in the ongoing urban/suburban wars.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist
Sorry, Brooklyn is many things, but it ain't no suburb.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:20 pm | #
i, um, sort of lost the manual during the crazeeness here, so i'm not sure what they are supposed to be for. they say "vista" as part of the disc title, is that bc it refers to the OS for PCs and thus i don't need to use the discs on my mac? i think so, but i thought i'd check here with you Smart People. thanks.
chicago dyke, computerized
You can usually find the manual on the net, now...
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:20 pm | #
I bet you teh germans have a very clear cut system of definitions.
*this is not a post generalizing germans*
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:20 pm | #
chicago dyke, computerized,
Google the manufacturer and model #. You will find a site with downloadable software.
Just download it and run.
DWD |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:20 pm | #
Here in Saskatchewan
I think heaven is going to look like the poplar forests in Saskatchewan I saw on TV.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:20 pm | #
Why is Palin here again?
Is she buying a fall wardrobe?
Who is paying this time?
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:21 pm | #
Giant eagles will fly out of my butt before Sarah Palin gets elected president.
Slartibartfast
Her campaign may want to hire you...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:21 pm | #
You just don't expect wild parrots in Brooklyn. It gets cold here.
Contrary to popular belief, parrots are not hothouse flowers. Parrots that live in the Australian outback, such as those cute little cockatiels, withstand extremes of weather - near freezing at night in winter, over 95 during the day in the summer. There are parrots native to Patagonia and even the mountains of New Zealand. And the monk parrots of New York are an Argentinian parrot that often raids corn fields.
Tlazolteotl |
06.16.09 - 1:21 pm | #
My urban hellhole can beat up your urban hellhole.
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:21 pm | #
Letterman is being concerned trolled at Feministing.
Palin is the one who opened the door by shoving her kids into the spotlight to serve her Satanic ambition.
Hyde Park is sort of famous for its large number of big green wild parrots.
About fifteen years ago, I was teaching Catherine how to ride a bike. We went over to the local park, Nicholls, and lo, there were about (I counted) 50 of 'em all on the ground, spread out like an emerald-dotted carpet. Like stumbling into Attar's Conference of the Birds. They did not pay the slightest attention to us as we came within three or four feet of them.
A little eerie, no pun intended.
David Derbes, optimistic |
06.16.09 - 1:22 pm | #
I think heaven is going to look like the poplar forests in Saskatchewan I saw on TV.
Anthony McCarthy
You sir would be a fan of La Ronge
olexicon, mike sass |
06.16.09 - 1:22 pm | #
My urban hellhole can beat up your urban hellhole.
AndyMN, Unalloted | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:21 pm | #
Sorry, Brooklyn is many things, but it ain't no suburb.
Gummo
No feral parrots in the 'burbs. Bats, cockroaches the size of dachsunds, mosquitos the size of B-52's...flash floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, hail storms....
but no feral parrots.
We win.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:22 pm | #
A little eerie, no pun intended.
David Derbes, optimistic
Why not, it's a good pun.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:22 pm | #
joking about the palin women liking to fuck, ain't fucking funny at all
Syd B |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
Fuck Palin.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Can you arrange it?
Lime Rickey |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
Giant eagles will fly out of my butt before Sarah Palin gets elected president.
I thought that's what she was working on for 2012.
CutUpSound |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
Palin does use her children, but Letterman should have put a sock in it too. I like him sometimes but that was just stupid.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
they say "vista" as part of the disc title, is that bc it refers to the OS for PCs and thus i don't need to use the discs on my mac?
Yes.
You may well not need to install anything, but if you do it will easily fit on one CD.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
Good afternoon, folks:
TACOMA, Wash. — Bob Bogle, lead guitarist and co-founder of the rock band The Ventures, known for 1960s instrumental hits like "Walk, Don't Run," has died at age 75.
Don Wilson, the band's other co-founder, tells The News Tribune of Tacoma, Wash., that Bogle became ill over the weekend and died Sunday.
The band sold millions of albums and heavily influenced other rock guitarists. It was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2008.
Among its other hits were "Perfidia" and the theme from "Hawaii Five-O."
The band got its start in 1958 in Tacoma. Bogle played lead and bass and Wilson played rhythm guitar. They were soon joined by Nokie Edwards, another guitarist, and drummer Howie Johnson, later replaced by Mel Taylor.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
I bet you teh germans have a very clear cut system of definitions.
It's funny that you say that because in this case, no. The word Stadt means both town and city. (You can Großstadt for "big city".)
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
David, i guess i am opposed to the funding bill, bc i think the only way to end the wars is to cut off the money. i'm deeply, deeply irritated that ending the wars seems all of the sudden not such an important priority to dems, who rode to a majority promising to do just that but somehow..."can't." that's crap. every day we are in those countries we make more enemies, kill more people, waste more money we don't have.
they can write a separate IMF funding bill. but the wars need to end, and i wish someone could tell me how that's going to happen, short of political games with funding bills for them.
chicago dyke, computerized |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:23 pm | #
You sir would be a fan of La Ronge
olexicon, mike sass
I shall look it up.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:24 pm | #
Sorry, no feral parrots = EPIC LOSE.
Hmmm... maybe the eagles and hawks we do get round here ate them all!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:24 pm | #
No feral parrots in the 'burbs. Bats, cockroaches the size of dachsunds, mosquitos the size of B-52's...flash floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, hail storms....
but no feral parrots.
We win.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist
/makes note about B-52s...
And just where is it that you live?
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:24 pm | #
Palin does use her children, but Letterman should have put a sock in it too. I like him sometimes but that was just stupid.
Anthony McCarthy
Hey, he apologized to the kids. He didn't apologize to Governor Carhop.
She's one of the biggest hypocrites out there.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:24 pm | #
damn Marcellina i thought you were gone!
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:24 pm | #
ChiDy: DWD has given you very good advice. If the disks say "Vista", definitely you don't want 'em for your Mac. But the chances are excellent that the software has been upgraded.
Get thee to the manufacturer's web site and look for either "Support" or "Downloads" and see if either are there, and if they have something useful for your machine.
In fact, you might not need anything. Macs often work with equipment right out of the box. You might try plugging it into your Mac and giving it a whirl.
David Derbes, optimistic |
06.16.09 - 1:25 pm | #
Oh, hell, looks like I'm going to have to watch Conan O'Brien this week.
"With temperatures in the nineties, and humidity hovering somewhere around 1000 percent, we made our way over to the comedy tent to watch a set from Triumph the Insult Comic Dog that he dubbed Bonnapoo. In a set that recalled his legendary Star Wars bit (only substituting hippies for geeks), Triumph took great delight in taking potshots at the hippiefest that is Bonnaroo ("It's kind of like the Superdome at Hurricane Katrina, only outdoors and without the hope") and the amount of drugs that were flying around the festival grounds ("You people are so high that I'm the fourth talking dog you've seen today"). Triumph would end up being a fixture at the festival throughout the weekend — Robert Smigel told us they were filming a segment for the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien that "would hopefully air sometime this week" — and even managed to briefly duet with Bruce Springsteen on "Tenth Avenue Freeze-out" on Saturday night. But we're getting ahead of ourselves."
Could be a hot one!
steve simels |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:25 pm | #
Hmmm... maybe the eagles and hawks we do get round here ate them all!
The Old Man From Scene 24
We have hawks too, but I envy you the eagles.
Gummo |
06.16.09 - 1:25 pm | #
they can write a separate IMF funding bill. but the wars need to end, and i wish someone could tell me how that's going to happen, short of political games with funding bills for them.
chicago dyke, computerized
Well, first we have to change the society to eliminate teenage driving and move everybody into Manhattan.
We'll get to your issue next....
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:25 pm | #
The German word for both "town" and "city" is Stadt, while a city with more than 100,000 inhabitants is called a Großstadt (big city). On the other hand, most towns are communities belonging to a Landkreis (county or rural district), but there are some cities, usually with at least 50,000 inhabitants, that are counties by themselves (kreisfreie Städte). Germany's largest cities are Berlin, Hamburg and Munich although the largest urban area is in the Rhine-Ruhr region around such cities as Dortmund and Essen.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:26 pm | #
Hey, he apologized to the kids. He didn't apologize to Governor Carhop.
I think it was a good way to handle the situation. I've always had good feelings about Letterman since reading in Passport to World Band Radio that he was a DXer.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:26 pm | #
voting against funding = hating military and killing troops
Oh, the Repigs don't hate the troops.
They don't care enough about them to hate them.
To them, they are tools....a means to an end.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:26 pm | #
Bob Bogle, lead guitarist and co-founder of the rock band The Ventures, known for 1960s instrumental hits like "Walk, Don't Run," has died at age 75.
Heh Yoof, just lurking a bit.
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:26 pm | #
drive by Stoopid Kumputer Kweshun: does anyone know why the new scanner/printer/fax i'm installing comes with four discs, but only one of them is accepted by my machine? the other three all got spit out as unreadable. i
Vista probably refers to the scanner. "Vistascan" is software to run it. Odd about a Mac rejecting anything as unraedable. Thot that was a Microsoft thing...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:27 pm | #
joking about the palin women liking to fuck, ain't fucking funny at all
It's not that they like to fuck. It's that they're fundie assholes who are constantly "don't do as I do, do as I say".
Which is why I have no sympathy at all for Bristol. Still spouting off about "abstinence" when it's painfully obvious that she cannot keep her own legs together, but furthermore, doesn't take responsible precautions because to do so would be "admitting" that she's a slut!
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.16.09 - 1:27 pm | #
I think it was a good way to handle the situation. I've always had good feelings about Letterman since reading in Passport to World Band Radio that he was a DXer.
Anthony McCarthy
As I said last night, my friend - he made the apology. He moves on.
If the Wasilla Hillbillies keep harping on it and whining about, it only shows them up for the no-class, pretentious trash that they are.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:27 pm | #
One of my favorite birds!
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:27 pm | #
Palin does use her children, but Letterman should have put a sock in it too. I like him sometimes but that was just stupid.
that pretty much sums it up for me.
why give Givernor Go-Go any way to leverage herself back into the discussion?
Kidnap hatefulemptynestoldhag |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:27 pm | #
We'll get to your issue next....
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist
I was wondering how much of B. Russell's late polemical writing might have been because he really was POed at Godel. But I'm back at work so I won't be able to research it for a while.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:27 pm | #
ChiDy, I also want to see the wars over, especially Iraq.
Afghanistan seems to me a much more nuanced thing. The country was "run" by women-hating religious wackos for about twenty years; these guys provided a haven for al Qaeda. I think it's worth trying to help the citizens of Afghanistan put their house in order, though it may not be possible.
I guess I'd like to give Afghanistan a little longer.
David Derbes, optimistic |
06.16.09 - 1:28 pm | #
""Now that you ate the chicken, you wanna try and hide the bones?
With your poetry and promises you messed up my brain,
You are a dirty dog – and not a great Dane."
"Please," says Hamlet, "I'm in a crazed condition.
Can't you see I'm torn by indecision?
To be or not to be? That's the fuckin' question
That's givin' me migraines and indigestion.
Should I take arms against a sea of trouble,
Or just walk around goin' gubble-gubble-gubble?""
It reminds me: whatever happened to w00t?
DAS |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:28 pm | #
It's not that they like to fuck. It's that they're fundie assholes who are constantly "don't do as I do, do as I say".
Thank you.
It's also galling these people keep rubbing our noses in their bullshit.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:28 pm | #
i thought Russell was pissed off because his wife had too many kids and Wittgenstein punked him.
euphronius ahistorical |
06.16.09 - 1:28 pm | #
I often get to see a pair of bald eagles, herons, and painted turtles on my bus ride, part of which is near the Arboretum. I have also seen osprey and kingfishers nearby.
And right now, the crows will be swooping low over the water to scoop up the spawned out three-spined sticklebacks that are floating on the surface of Lake Washington.
Tlazolteotl |
06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
because to do so would be "admitting" that she's a slut!
Apprentice to Darth Holden
The brass tacks of the problem for every 'good' girl.
Hence the teen pregnancy problem.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
aren''t the palins racists if they think there is anything wrong with joking about bristol getting knocked up by A-ROD?
horrible horrible racists, who like to fuck like wild hares, by all accounts?
Syd B |
06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
If the Wasilla Hillbillies keep harping on it
Say what you will about Palin, she can smell a marketing opportunity a continent away.
I've got to go. See you later.
Anthony McCarthy |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
From an article on Monk Parrots
"Monk Parakeets are the only parrots which build free-standing nests (all other parrots build their nests in tree cavities and similar places)," says Kelly. "Some of those nests can be impressively large and one in South America weighed almost a ton. Local nests are never that big, but they're still pretty sturdy. The parakeets' actual living space lies in the middle of a bushel or more of twigs, so when really cold weather hits, they've got a nice, cozy home to retreat to."
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
the largest urban area is in the Rhine-Ruhr region around such cities as Dortmund and Essen.
Yeah, up there the cities are just kind of connected to each other the way Manhattan is one neighborhood after another.
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
It's also galling these people keep rubbing our noses in their bullshit
i will admit to being slightly peeved at letterman for giving them an opening. you give these people an inch, and they take it out of the known universe.
Kidnap hatefulemptynestoldhag |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:30 pm | #
the largest urban area is in the Rhine-Ruhr region around such cities as Dortmund and Essen.
The Slutty Stewardess Look would make a good Halloween costume, but no one will remember it by then.
Marcellina |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
maybe we should try and not kill anyone abroad for a change
you know not solve the world's problems with bombs and M-16s
radical I know
Moonbootica, Avout
You want to make the world economy collapse!!1!!?!1
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
I see Heidi of the Austin Alps is still picking on plantsman.
I wouldn't mind seeing "her" get banned again.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
you give these people an inch, and they take it out of the known universe.
Exactly.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
Teenage girls who have children are sluts now?
AndyMN, Unalloted |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
Afghanistan seems to me a much more nuanced thing. The country was "run" by women-hating religious wackos for about twenty years; these guys provided a haven for al Qaeda.
And before that, they loved women and treated 'em as equals?
I think it's worth trying to help the citizens of Afghanistan put their house in order, though it may not be possible.
I guess I'd like to give Afghanistan a little longer.
David Derbes, optimistic
The best metaphor I have for culture is genetics. And you can no more change the culture of a country/people by military intervention than you can change someone's genetic makeup by surgery.
It's a lost cause, and not only not our responsibility, we're fools to try.
chicagodyke honey
we're just supposed to
Let Go Let Obama
ErinPDX |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog at a Bon Jovi show outside Brendan Byrne arena was perhaps his finest moment.
(Triumph's, not Bon Jovi or Brendan Byrnes.)
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
but no feral parrots.
We win.
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist
I'm shocked that there are no parrots in Houston.
That U noes of anyway.
fourlegsgood, PLUSHOLOGIST |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
"It was examined by Russell and Moore; at the end of the thesis defence, Wittgenstein clapped the two examiners on the shoulder and said, "Don't worry, I know you'll never understand it.""
rootless-e, hegemonized |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
From an article on Monk Parrots
They are unique for those communal stick nests. There are a few other communal parrots, the Patagonian conure is one, it nests in cliffsides.
Tlazolteotl |
06.16.09 - 1:31 pm | #
Afghanistan can be summed up in this line 'Where Empires Go to Die'
Moonbootica, Avout |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:32 pm | #
Incidentally for ChiDy and other Mac folks who use a scanner: I have yet to find better scanner software than Hamrick's VueScan. Supports everything. Shareware. Costs about $40, and that's the last money you'll spend; lifetime updates.
David Derbes, optimistic |
06.16.09 - 1:32 pm | #
The Slutty Stewardess Look would make a good Halloween costume, but no one will remember it by then.
Marcellina |
I was hoping that Palin (my neighbor says she reminds her more of a 1950s carhop...all that's missing are the roller skates)would be forgotten about three months after the election, but unfortunately the media are still in love with her.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:32 pm | #
The Slutty Stewardess Look would make a good Halloween costume, but no one will remember it by then.
Palin will have drummed up several more crises by then.
It wasn't a week ago that she had the republics up in arms for snubbing her sorry ass when it was actually she who did the snubbing. And it was all a setup.
Billy B |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:32 pm | #
It reminds me: whatever happened to w00t?
W00t was on a few nights ago trying sell us some Uighers.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:33 pm | #
Wow, nice! Where do you live, that you can get these photos?
One one of our visits to Point Reyes in California I watched a heron for about half an hour while it hunted fish. Amazing patience.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:33 pm | #
In Jeebusland, they always have been.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.16.09 - 1:33 pm | #
OT: The Goethe Institute continues to find new ways to dabble in the cultural relationship between Germans and Egyptians, this time bringing the Berlinland club scene to Egypt in the form of DJ Mia.
One of Germany’s top club DJs, she was introduced to Egypt’s cafe-culture shores in the unlikely settings of a family folk festival in Sohag followed by the heart of Cairo’s underground arts scene: the Rawabet Theater, a performance which she categorized as minimal club techno.
DJ Mia has two albums under her sleeve, “Shwarzweiss” (2004) and “Bittersuess” (2007). Her music is haunting, melodic and meditative, ranging from classic blues and remixes to cutting-edge experimentalism with electronic sounds. Thus, Mia comes in different guises and the audience only received a hint of that during her performances.
The crowd at Rawabet Theater on Friday night was a mixed bunch with varying expectations. Advertised as minimal electro, it was — understandably — much to the disappointment of electronica outfit Bikya’s fan base (Bikya being the special guest of the night), when Mia began to belt out Berlin club anthems. The audience, in their polite yet consistent manner, gradually trickled out.
You wanna suck out all the coal and level a mountain top Mr. Strip Miner? No problem, just slip ol' buddy barak a fiver.
Ain't Dat Sumpin' |
06.16.09 - 1:34 pm | #
i thought Russell was pissed off because his wife had too many kids and Wittgenstein punked him.
euphronius ahistorical
Wittgenstein on one side, Godel on the other. Russell has the rare distinction of being the founder of a school of philosophy which came to a complete end in his lifetime.
Whitehead invented process theology, Russell became an anti-war activist. Gotta do somethin' with your time....
Rmj, Love Stupid Theologist |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:34 pm | #
Say what you will about Palin
Oh, and I will.
You betcha!
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:34 pm | #
Nice baldie Old Man!
There are several pairs nesting in the area these days and we get lots of them wintering in the region.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:34 pm | #
his wife had too many kids
His WIFE had too many kids?
Hey, unless they were all immaculate conceptions, I think he had SOMETHING to do with that.
Terry C-Castrating B*tch |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:35 pm | #
My hometown doesn't have parrots, or Michele Malkin, thank God. But it does have a marvelous supply of lightning bugs and for the past two nights they've put on a heck of a show. One of life's little joys, I think.
Glenn |
06.16.09 - 1:46 pm | #
The brass tacks of the problem for every 'good' girl.
Hence the teen pregnancy problem.
ellroon, smolderingwreckian | Homepage | 06.16.09 - 1:29 pm | #
Well, it's not like Levi took the appropriate precautions, either.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
06.16.09 - 1:50 pm | #
"drudge makes our wee-wee hard"-cable news
jr |
06.16.09 - 3:17 pm | #