I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
first i comment, then i listen
poo!
and then there were more...
Pelosi!
Feingold!
These guys are pretty cool - The Makes Nice.
Kind of a Bram Tchiakovsy sound going for 'em...
I have an x64 system, so I can't run flash, which screws up a lot of sites... So I'm forced to come straight here...
By the way, x64 sucks - M$ should have either ponied up for the right drivers or not released it at all. Bastiches.
Tits?
Did someone say tits?
I don't like this topic.
Howard K Stern seems very honest in this trial.
I guess when I was 34 this would seem impressive.
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I don't like this topic.
Why? It's not about you?
1984 bumpersticker for Mondale/Ferraro:
Vote Fritz and Tits
This is a jaunty tune.
Why? It's not about you?
Duh. Careful, or I'll troll your campaign blog...
By the way, x64 sucks - M$ should have either ponied up for the right drivers or not released it at all. Bastiches.
atablarasa | Homepage | 02.23.07 - 11:51 pm | #
what's x64? is that an intel chip?
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The Pretenders on the iPod at the moment so I can't play the UTube.
Hecate, my wife tells me that she knows of no woman where she works that has not been groped or otherwise sexually harassed, but that only a couple of times has there been anything done. All of them have put up with it, and thereby created their own situation...
1984 bumpersticker for Mondale/Ferraro:
Vote Fritz and Tits
Vote Wally and the Beaver.
1984 bumpersticker for Mondale/Ferraro:
Vote Wally and the Beaver
You think x64 is bad you should try my Commodore 64.
I stalk Atrios, too, but he doesn't mind.
Sticks out tongue at NTodd.
The Pretenders on the iPod at the moment so I can't play the UTube.
That's funny -- I usually encounter the same issue, but I just hit the end of my Jukebox playlist at the right time.
All of them have put up with it, and thereby created their own situation...
Yeah, it's totally their fault that they need their jobs to feed their kids and so keep their mouths shut. Stupid cunts.
The Pretenders on the iPod at the moment
When love walks in the room everyone stand up
Duh. Careful, or I'll troll your campaign blog...
Given your proven skills at such, I am glad I do not yet have one.
Joe Friday would feel very uncomfortable investigating the ANS case. Since I peg my sensibilities to the good Sgt.'s, I don't like all of this hoohah examination.
X64 is M$'s XP release for the 64-bit CPU that was a stop-gap for Vista. However, none of the wireless NIC providers (last time I checked) and the flash people have put out a version for X64.
Sticks out tongue at NTodd.
Goddesses with forked tongues have an unfair advantage. And totally turn me on.
NTodd is the root of all evil.
the friday night jukebox at my homepage got stuck on Canadian.
Thanks to NTodd, the Repugs will win in 2008.
NEW RULES!
the friday night jukebox at my homepage got stuck on Canadian.
virgotex
you say that like it's a bad thing.
Given your proven skills at such, I am glad I do not yet have one.
My advice: don't get one. I VILL BREAK YOU.
Let me get my head around this - Microsoft released a new OS that forces you to upgrade your processor and won't let you watch flash video?
Damn those Canadians!!!
Thanks for '08 Ntodd!
I stalk Atrios, too, but he doesn't mind.
Sticks out tongue at NTodd.
Echidne of the snakes'
I think that must be my problem - I'm not stalking anyone.
Maybe I'd get more attention if I was.
Despite NTodd, the Repugs will lose in 2008.
Fixed your spelling, if that was okay.
I have to say, with no small amount of nationalist pride, that the Canadian music scene is kinda kicking ass these days.
Hecate, that's pretty much the management's take on it. No Norma Rae to stand up on this one so far.
Sticks out tongue at NTodd.
Echidne of the snakes'
You're tasting him?
ewwwwwwww
Wasn't the majority of early written works porn?
1watt Hermit | Homepage
the majority of early writing was either business records, chronicals of the triumphs of the king, or the myths and legends of the culture. these last could be a bit obscene by our standards, but they weren't porn.
porn seems to come in with the romans, because literacy was widespread enough in rome for soldiers to write "hestia is a whore" on the walls of toilets...
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Let me get my head around this - Microsoft released a new OS that forces you to upgrade your processor and won't let you watch flash video?
It's a feature that improves efficiency.
More white musicians.
Hmphhhh.
Joe Friday would feel very uncomfortable investigating the ANS case. Since I peg my sensibilities to the good Sgt.'s, I don't like all of this hoohah examination.
I think Joe's greatest problem would be that the last thing anyone involved in this mess is interested in is "just the facts, ma'am."
by the way, Arcade Fire is on SNL tomorrow. Do not miss them.
I really have to meet this Hestia person.
My advice: don't get one. I VILL BREAK YOU.
I will set one up just for you. You won't know which is real.
Or maybe you will.
Let me get my head around this - Microsoft released a new OS that forces you to upgrade your processor and won't let you watch flash video?
It's a feature that improves efficiency.
Not to mention various bank accounts except those of the consumer.
You're tasting him?
ewwwwwwww
I thought that was how snakes sniffed out prey.
Which is still...ewwwwwww
I've tried to stalk NTodd but failed miserably....
Hello, all. What's the word, besides alt.rock?
I think that must be my problem - I'm not stalking anyone.
Maybe I'd get more attention if I was.
Tena
It doesn't work. He ignores me cruelly and totally. 
'night, all
X64 is M$'s XP release for the 64-bit CPU that was a stop-gap for Vista.
so X64 is XP with 64 bit addresses? never heard of it...
hmph!
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The word is nudibranch.
Dang, I'm glad I use that *other* OS...
...on my Commodore 64.
that the Canadian music scene is kinda kicking ass these days.
SteveNS
and the canadian Supreme Court is the best in the world!
Top court rules against security certificates
The Supreme Court of Canada has struck down the security certificate system used by the federal government to detain and deport foreign-born terrorist suspects.
In a 9-0 judgment handed down Friday, the court found that the system, described by the government as a key tool for safeguarding national security, violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/
2...ertificate.html
Let me get my head around this - Microsoft released a new OS that forces you to upgrade your processor and won't let you watch flash video?
Technically, it's supposed to be an OS that *takes advantage* of 64-bit power (my new box came with the souped up hardware). However, half the peripherals and a bunch of Internet stuff won't work with the OS.
I will set one up just for you. You won't know which is real.
Oooh, a honeypot!
porn seems to come in with the romans, because literacy was widespread enough in rome for soldiers to write "hestia is a whore" on the walls of toilets...
I used to take the London Times Literary Supplement and I read an article in it years ago about the Romans and pornography and in fact, a lot of what we consider pornographic they didn't. They had slogans and things in public baths that kids could read that if a kid read it today, someone would go to jail.
And while I didn't get to see as much of Pompeii and I wanted, I did see the penis bas reliefs in the bricks of the streets that marked whore houses.
Hecate, that's pretty much the management's take on it
It almost always is. I hope your wife isn't having to put up with it.
Echidne is someone else I'd like to stalk... but dieties are so... intimidating.
porn seems to come in with the romans, because literacy was widespread enough in rome for soldiers to write "hestia is a whore" on the walls of toilets...
However, most Roman written works (graffiti aside) was not porn.
IIRC, the most popular books after the invention of the printing press were "how to" manuals.
plum p -- I was saying earlier that it took a few spins for me, but I'm really loving the new Arcade Fire album!
And, the Besnard Lakes' new CD is getting great reviews -- you listen to them at all?
Let me get my head around this - Microsoft released a new OS that forces you to upgrade your processor and won't let you watch flash video?
Oh fuck, even with the upgrade it's a definite maybe. It's called monopoly folks.
You're tasting him?
ewwwwwwww
I thought that was how snakes sniffed out prey.
Which is still...ewwwwwww
My tongue isn't long enough to reach from here to Vermont. And neither is NTodd's geegaw (?) even if he pretends so.
Could a few people do me a favor, and click on my homepage? I stayed up all night migrating my site to the new Blogger, and one of the things that got knocked out of commission was my Statcounter. I think I finxed it, but I'm not quite sure.
I've tried to stalk NTodd but failed miserably....
Darryl Pearce
If you'd stalked him when his ankle was messed up he wouldn't have been able to run away. Timing is everything.
the majority of early writing was either business records, chronicals of the triumphs of the king, or the myths and legends of the culture. these last could be a bit obscene by our standards, but they weren't porn.
porn seems to come in with the romans, because literacy was widespread enough in rome for soldiers to write "hestia is a whore" on the walls of toilets...
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Tacitus Voltaire Pretentiosus
so accountancy is the oldest profession?
In a 9-0 judgment handed down Friday, the court found that the system, described by the government as a key tool for safeguarding national security, violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms
That's awesome, and I'm very envious of everyone who still gets to live in a free country.
*heavy sigh*
one of the things that got knocked out of commission was my Statcounter. I think I finxed it, but I'm not quite sure.
Damn subtle blogwhore.
Timing is everything? My life travels at the speed of plot!
The word is nudibranch.
Nudibranch = love?
I've tried to stalk NTodd but failed miserably....
What, you can't follow a pack of dog prints and yellow trails in the snow?
Phila - I love the nudibranch. Of course I love them all - they are all spectacular.
Could a few people do me a favor, and click on my homepage? I stayed up all night migrating my site to the new Blogger, and one of the things that got knocked out of commission was my Statcounter. I think I fixed it, but I'm not quite sure.
Phila
Now *that's* a blogwhore!
"Paris Hilton I know you're a sweet girl but you have to be euthanized." - Bill Mahr
Fuck NTood
Jeeeeez!
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My tongue isn't long enough to reach from here to Vermont. And neither is NTodd's geegaw (?) even if he pretends so.
But the two of them together can cross the great divide...
Could a few people do me a favor, and click on my homepage? I stayed up all night migrating my site to the new Blogger, and one of the things that got knocked out of commission was my Statcounter. I think I fixed it, but I'm not quite sure.
Phila
See how I did it. Just click on my homepage.
I believe the Egyptians invented bookkeeping, and tax collection.
Phila - clicked. Can I have some absinthe chocolate too?
It doesn't work. He ignores me cruelly and totally.
Echidne of the snake
Atrios or NTodd?
Atrios ignores everyone. Except NTodd.
But the two of them together can cross the great divide...
swoons, hits head and swears
What, you can't follow a pack of dog prints and yellow trails in the snow?
so accountancy is the oldest profession?
1watt Hermit
pottery.
I hope your wife isn't having to put up with it.
Not anymore. To be blunt, she's too old and heavy these days to be a target anymore. But there are still others having to put up with it. Now it's more subtle than just grabbing tit, which is what happened to her several years back.
I think the Mesopotamians invented bookkeeping. Most of the cunieform tablets that exist are business records.
so accountancy is the oldest profession?
1watt Hermit
Well, perhaps the second oldest.
Atrios ignores everyone. Except NTodd.
I note that he is still incapable of accomplishing my challenges.
Def Poetry Jam is the worlds stupidest profession.
NToddler
Atrios makes up the best nicknames.
The Moustache of Understanding is my favorite, but Pony Blow is close.
It doesn't work. He ignores me cruelly and totally.
Echidne of the snake
Atrios or NTodd?
Atrios ignores everyone. Except NTodd.
It's hard to stalk NTodd while he is stalking Atrios. Easier to stalk Atrios and NTodd will be there, too. Not that my stalking is motivated by anything except my ambitions.
so accountancy is the oldest profession?
1watt Hermit
maybe the second oldest profession. but the oldest examples or writing are all business accounts - sumeria circa 3200 BC, egypt not long after. also the earliest writing in minoan crete circa 1800 BC
"5 sheep, 15 amphora of wine, 10 bushels of grain"
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swoons, hits head and swears
Yes, that's usually the effect I have on women and snakes, though I blame that on the chloroform...
See how I did it. Just click on my homepage.
an even more subtle blogwhore! Bow to the master and the mistress!
evening moonbeams. just sauntering.
Not anymore. To be blunt, she's too old and heavy these days to be a target anymore.
That was my situation as well. Men grabbing whatever they could. It was actually a relief to put on some weight and get older.
Somehow I thought they might staged the Libby verdict for the Friday night 'news dump'. Did I miss something important?
the majority of early writing was either business records, chronicals of the triumphs of the king, or the myths and legends of the culture.
It all depends on how you want to treat the OE scripts, as writing or not.
They aren't translated and probably never will be, but it is highly doubtful that they were related to accounting, kings, or business.
Def Poetry Jam is the worlds stupidest profession.
The Kenosha Kid
I like a lot of what the slam poets are writing. I heard one one day on the radio that a guy had written about his mother that was just incredibly good.
yeah i have some vague recollection of the sumerians inventing bookkeeping.
Atrios makes up the best nicknames.
Holden gets credit for NToddler, IIRC.
so accountancy is the oldest profession?
1watt Hermit
Well, perhaps the second oldest.
Well, you needed to keep track of the oldest...
"Double-entry" accountancy is only ~600 years old.
I like a lot of what the slam poets are writing.
Turn on HBO and your mind will change.
JR thanks for the Hinterland Who's Who.
Could you send the paramedics to help me up off the floor. please!
I saw an "Al Gore in 2008" bumpersticker this week, very low-key.Unfortunately, it was attached to a Ford Explorer.
Well, you needed to keep track of the oldest...
atablarasa
What's Sumerian for "It's hard out here for a pimp?"
I thought Holden invented "Pony Blow" also.
the majority of early writing was either business records, chronicals of the triumphs of the king, or the myths and legends of the culture
http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_o...m=66%2E245%
2E5b
It all depends on how you want to treat the OE scripts, as writing or not.
They aren't translated and probably never will be, but it is highly doubtful that they were related to accounting, kings, or business.
JR, kerosene and a match | 02.24.07 - 12:08 am | #
do you mean the stuff Marija Gimbutas reproduces in her books? it is dated much older than any other known writing, and resembles the untranslated linear A, but no-one will yet take the leap and certify it as actual writing...
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Bonsoir, Plum.
Maybe we'll be able to open the windows again this weekend!
SUVs are vehicles too!
but the oldest examples or writing are all business accounts
No, those are the earliest translated scribblings.
"5 sheep, three bushels of barley" is hardly "writing", for starters, and there's lots of older stuff still untranslated, because "5 sheep, three bushels of barley" is also pretty easy to figure out without a Rosetta.
Danny Bonaduce has a theory that Paris Hilton is the carrier of the celebrity addiction virus.
I like a lot of what the slam poets are writing.
The poems themselves are fine. That style of delivery gets a bit grating after the 15th poet in a row using it..
Atrios ignores everyone. Except NTodd.
Tena
He likes the pantless thing.
I find i stoooopid.
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And, the Besnard Lakes' new CD is getting great reviews -- you listen to them at all?
SteveNS
i can barely keep up with my hometown scene! Did you see the SXSW schedule? There's 2 special events: M for Montréal (anglo bands) and BonSound (bands who sings in french!)
on the thursday night (scroll down at the bottom)
http://2007.sxsw.com/music/showc...2007-03-
15.html
Sweet dreams, Batties and Batlettes.
I think the Mesopotamians invented bookkeeping. Most of the cunieform tablets that exist are business records.
Tena | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:06 am | #
Yep. And mostly in base 20, if memory serves. I remember staying up 'til four am trying to figure out the mysteries of Mesopotamian long division, thanks to a Dover book on early math.
sheep, eh? so, it has come full circle back to porn.
www.artemission.com/ViewItemDetails.asp?
ItemNumber=17.10869
another cunieform example.
pottery.
JR, kerosene and a match
Lighten up Jethro.
Unfortunately, it was attached to a Ford Explorer.
There's a hybrid Explorer now. Might have been one of those.
it is dated much older than any other known writing, and resembles the untranslated linear A, but no-one will yet take the leap and certify it as actual writing...
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Tacitus Voltaire
Ther is no leap.
Writing developed on a continuum. you can't say that it isn't writing unless you know what it says, and it doesn't seem likely that we will find a key for it.
And yes, it's old, old, old.
Def Poetry Jam is the worlds stupidest profession.
The Kenosha Kid
Yep!
sheep, eh? so, it has come full circle back to porn.
Or Republicans.
Or both...
Somehow I thought they might staged the Libby verdict for the Friday night 'news dump'. Did I miss something important?
No, the Libby jury is just taking its time sorting through everything, it seems, based on their requests for office supplies and photographs of the witnesses.
They'll be back to deliberations on Monday.
Henry Flower-those Assyrian court filings must have been a bitch!
night Hecate.
After some soul searching and deep talk with my wife I am prepared to admit that the Shins are not yet better than the Beatles. But they're better than Queen. Way fucking better, dude.
And I know it's after Valentine's, but if your Love likes snacks, then add some bleu cheese to the Velveeta and put some fennel, black pepper and crushed garlic into the frying oil for the fries. You'll be glad you did!
Maybe we'll be able to open the windows again this weekend!
aangus
yes! a very appreciated -1
based on their requests for office supplies and photographs of the witnesses
What kind of office supplies did they request?
think the Mesopotamians invented bookkeeping. Most of the cunieform tablets that exist are business records.
Tena
A Renaissance Italian came up with ledgers the way we use now.
"You godda debit needs cleanin'"
thanks to a Dover book on early math.
Phila |
don't think they had the zero that far back.
Hey, it's friday night. Can't you give it a fucking rest for crying out loud!
did i just miss Pelosi on Leno?
JR thanks for the Hinterland Who's Who.
aangus
yer welcome. I laughed my assets off, too.
What's the opposite of stalking?
Lying in wait?
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"Double-entry" accountancy is only ~600 years old.
Yeah, I've seen Connections...
I don't understand the bit about the Romans and Pornography. How exactly did they download it again?
What's the opposite of stalking?
Lying in wait?
That's not the opposite of stalking, it's an important component of stalking.
Or so they tell me.
don't think they had the zero that far back.
Naw, that was the Japanese in WWII.
Evening all.
Uh..that's all I've got, right this second.
Help me out?
What kind of office supplies did they request?
Flip charts and post-its.
A Renaissance Italian came up with ledgers the way we use now.
"You godda debit needs cleanin'"
Max Planck
the Italians claim to have invented banking, the venetian blind (which is quite believable,) the sliding door, and several other things that mostly the Chinese claim to have invented.
The Italians are adamant about it.
I think the Mesopotamians invented bookkeeping. Most of the cunieform tablets that exist are business records.
I hope so. That's what I tell my students.
Henry Flower-those Assyrian court filings must have been a bitch!
can you imagine a nyt article on quizno's in cuneiform?
I don't understand the bit about the Romans and Pornography. How exactly did they download it again?
Help me out?
"Have I missed anything irksome?"
don't think they had the zero that far back.
Naw, that was the Japanese in WWII.
Light, and very agile.
Help me out?
We're discussing Sumerian book keeping and how to stalk Atrios.
You read that right.
Good take on the Oscars from Mark Evanier...
I'll come in again:
I don't understand the bit about the Romans and Pornography. How exactly did they download it again?
It was painfully slow on those XXX baud modems they had back then.
Later!
Off to the porch.
Two (not sic) drruck!!
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Help me out?
steve simels
YOu help us out. In a previous thread, we were debating who was in vain one in the Carly Simon song: Warren Beatty?
sheep, eh? so, it has come full circle back to porn.
the story
You're Scottish?
I don't understand the bit about the Romans and Pornography. How exactly did they download it again?
Apprentice to Darth Holde
Good night, sweet friends!
How exactly did they download it again?
They used the aqueducts.(It's a series of tubes.)
YOu help us out. In a previous thread, we were debating who was in vain one in the Carly Simon song: Warren Beatty?
Plum P
That's what I always heard.
the Italians claim to have invented banking, the venetian blind (which is quite believable,) the sliding door, and several other things that mostly the Chinese claim to have invented.
All nonsense. All of that was inwented in Russia!
Help me out?
steve simels | 02.24.07 - 12:15 am | #
Close your eyes and think on this.
Unless you're still on dialup.
Apprentice and Henry,
Both great answers and the best laughs of the night pour moi. So thank you and good night.
A Renaissance Italian came up with ledgers the way we use now.
Yes, double entry bookeepping is Italian.
Anyone know why (without Google), finaincial officials are/can be refered to as "Exchequers"?
Henry Flower. I was in France eating Freedom Fries when I actually saw some aqueducts. Truly a work of civil engineering art. Have you ever seen them in person?
BTW, seems Gilliard's laid up with some sort of infection until next week.
Maybe some of youse Noo Yawkahs can take him some posies...
nice cheetah on Leno
They used the aqueducts.(It's a series of tubes.)
[golf clap]
Shampoo Warren Beatty or Parallax View Warren Beatty?
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YOu help us out. In a previous thread, we were debating who was in vain one in the Carly Simon song: Warren Beatty?
Plum P
Carly says she'll never tell, but Warren Beatty certainly fits the bill.
the Italians claim to have invented banking
They do?
I think I learned that the Mayans has the concept of zero a century before the greeks.
well, it's friday night again, and that means that it's time for me to go to the card party and drink chimay cinq cents until the street signs look like they are written in cuneaform
salve atque vale, 'bats!
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Phila, works well enough for me. btw, I've been sending people your way, in reference to the ME arms market post, and cause it's such a great blog! Nice job and thanks.
YOu help us out. In a previous thread, we were debating who was in vain one in the Carly Simon song: Warren Beatty?
Plum P | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:17 am | #
That's what's always been assumed.
Personally, I've never gotten into it --
because, otherwise, Carly might write another song about me.
disco nebula:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...d/
ap070224.html
Thanks for the hits, by the way. My statcounter is indeed working.
Anyone know why (without Google), finaincial officials are/can be refered to as "Exchequers"?
Because the French made the British misspell "check writer"?
Did the Italians invent opera, or just perfect it? Plus, the Roman arch, and a great cuisine, oughta be enough inventions for one people.
XXX baud modems!
Apprentice to Darth Holden
That is one of the greatest math puns ever!
I tip my hat to you sir!
Didn't Gilliard end up in intensive care last time he was in the hospital? Shit. Get well, Steve.
so Pelosi was scheduled on Leno, and she was replaced by an exotic animals segment...
Phila, works well enough for me. btw, I've been sending people your way, in reference to the ME arms market post, and cause it's such a great blog! Nice job and thanks.
alien, from up above | 02.24.07 - 12:20 am | #
Thanks! Means a lot to me, especially this week.
I think I learned that the Mayans has the concept of zero a century before the greeks.
1watt Hermit
The Greeks had the concept, they didn't have a sign for it. Different things.
Because the French made the British misspell "check writer"?
NTodd
No, it pre-dates the EU.
Henry Flower. I was in France eating Freedom Fries when I actually saw some aqueducts. Truly a work of civil engineering art. Have you ever seen them in person?
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
The Romans didn't invent Italian cuisine. Tomatoes are indigenous to the Americas. Pasta was invented in China.
(the Jews invented everything good)
Algebra was invented about 1300 years ago. About 1299 years ago, students began complaining about their homework assignments.
This is why I eschewed being a CPA and an attorney. Too much argument. I should have gone into auto design. At least there everyone is agreed that Henry Ford was the inventor of the car.
(the Jews invented everything good)
The Kenosha Kid
except Joe Lieberman
"It was painfully slow on those XXX baud modems they had back then."
"They used the aqueducts.(It's a series of tubes.)"
Pardon, I must drain the wine from my sinuses now.
BTW -- saw the Astronaut Farmer AND the number 23 today,
Virginia Madsen stars in both.
Cool....
Both movie kind of suck, BTW, but she's great in both...
the Italians claim to have invented banking
They do?
Max Planck
Well let me put it this way, our guide in Italy made that claim.
He was Italian. He made it on behalf of the whole country.
Accounting ued to be done on chequered cloth, with the squares being used for seperate accounts.
So do I open the second bottle of wine, or not?
Because the French made the British misspell "check writer"?
NTodd
No, it pre-dates the EU.
JR, kerosene and a match
I know *that*.
Ex = out. Chequer = check in fucking Frog. See? It makes total sense.
except Joe Lieberman
The Jews invented everything good, but not everything the Jews invented was good.
(the Jews invented everything good)
The Kenosha Kid
except Joe Lieberman
Plum P
You saying Bill Shatner and Gene Simmons don't cancel Lieberman out?
So do I open the second bottle of wine, or not?
Phila
of course you do
(the Jews invented everything good)
If it's not Scottish, it's crap!
of course you do
Plum P | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:25 am | #
Hmmm. You make a good case!
You saying Bill Shatner and Gene Simmons don't cancel Lieberman out?
dan mcenroe
yes. Bill and Gene can't give the Senate to the GOP
I love all that ancient scripts stuff. Love it. I wanted to be an archeologist.
Phila--it's Friday night. Get a clue
Plum P: Rumour at the time was Mick Jagger.
The Greeks had the concept, they didn't have a sign for it. Different things.
JR, kerosene and a match
okay the mayans were using the zero a century before the greeks.
The Italians did, indeed invent the modern notion of banking.
The Jews invented everything good, but not everything the Jews invented was good.
The Kenosha Kid
gotcha
Plus he sang backup on it.
Interesting I sucked at Algebra but was great in geometry. So they put me in advanced algebra II. I sucked at that, but was good at Calculus. It wasn't until years later that they figured out that the brain has different parts for spacial relationships and processes of something like geometry and calculus which were different than the linear equations and processes in algebra. But in high school they were all just "Math".
I thought the Arabs invented the numeral zero.
The Romans didn't invent Italian cuisine. Tomatoes are indigenous to the Americas. Pasta was invented in China.
Yes, but who first thought of combining tomatoes and pasta?
okay the mayans were using the zero a century before the greeks.
1watt Hermit
You knew I was a pedantic bastard beforehand.
Plum P: Rumour at the time was Mick Jagger.
aangus
it's not him, but he does sing backing vocals on "you're so vain"
I thought the Arabs invented the numeral zero.
Naw, they borrowed it from the Indians!
okay the mayans were using the zero a century before the greeks.
1watt Hermit
The zero came in handy when they kept score of them against the Europeans.
Spocko--I'm the opposite. I don't visualize 3D space well, so I'm a huge algebra fan.
I thought the Arabs invented the numeral zero.
Well, in that sense they invented every number.. but the Babylonians, Mayans and Indians beat them to using *a* sign for zero.
You knew I was a pedantic bastard beforehand.
lol
First step is to acknowledge that you have a problem...
Yes, but who first thought of combining tomatoes and pasta?
Probably someone Jewish 
Yes, but who first thought of combining tomatoes and pasta?
Bachelors...
JR--was it the Mayans who originally used the zero? I thought it had been used in India before that.
But it's late and I've had a lot of wine and company.
I made some coffee very strong by accident. Makes my hair stand up.
Plum P: Rumour at the time was Mick Jagger.
This from Wiki:
Dick Ebersol, president of NBC Sports and a friend of Simon, was the highest bidder for a Martha's Vineyard Possible Dreams charity auction offering in which the prize was the revelation of the person whom "You're So Vain" was about. A condition of that prize is that Ebersol would not reveal to anyone the actual subject. Later, Ebersol revealed that he was allowed by Simon to divulge a clue about the person's name:
"Carly told me that I could offer up to the entire world, a clue as to what she'll tell me when we have this night in about two weeks. And the clue is: the letter 'E' is in the person's name." Dick Ebersol on NBC's Today Show - August 5, 2003
Also froom Wiki, the suspects:
Popular guesses on the subject include Mick Jagger (who sang backing vocals on the song), Cat Stevens, Warren Beatty, Kris Kristofferson (whom she had had brief relationships with), unfaithful fiancé William Donaldson, and Simon's ex-husband, James Taylor.
[golf clap]
i want a man with a slow hand
I love algebra.
Trig can go to hell.
Bachelors...
Indeed!!!
Bachelors...
[laughy face]
I want to go back to school just for math. It gnaws at me that I suck at math.
I made some coffee very strong by accident. Makes my hair stand up.
Don't you mean it makes your scales stand up?
I love all that ancient scripts stuff. Love it. I wanted to be an archeologist.
Echidne of the snakes |
Me too. Then I wanted to be anthropologist and specialize as a linguist.
I got discouraged because it isn't the same discipline it once was. It's a lot of statistics now, and that does not interest me.
Interesting I sucked at Algebra but was great in geometry.
I was just the opposite... and I'm an "artist"! But I could never visualize the geometry...
OK -- I had my pizza for dinner. What'd I miss?
OK -- I had my pizza for dinner. What'd I miss?
I sucked at both algebra and geometry.
My dad was so convinced I'd like geometry. Ha!
i'm stupid
wonder what they're discussing @ lgf.
Don't you mean it makes your scales stand up?
No. They rattle a little, though. I have hair on top of my head. Under the tiara.
and I'm an "artist"!
i'm an "artist"and i suck at the maths.
JR--was it the Mayans who originally used the zero? I thought it had been used in India before that.
But it's late and I've had a lot of wine and company.
Sallyh,
Mayans and India are contempory. Babylonians had a sign for it earliest.
The Aabic "0" comes from India, the Mayans had a glyph for 0, but never used it in calculations, they only used it in the calendar.
Interesting I sucked at Algebra but was great in geometry
Algebra absolutely destroyed me. I can do it now, but back in school I was lost.
Granted, it probably didn't help that I spent the previous period huffing ether from a sponge with which I was supposed to anaesthetize D. melanogaster.
I want to go back to school just for math. It gnaws at me that I suck at math.
dan mcenroe
I have a brilliant nephew who, like I did, is struggling up against middle school cipherin'.
I feel like telling him not to be a math dick. You will find use for it later.
Me too. Then I wanted to be anthropologist and specialize as a linguist.
I got discouraged because it isn't the same discipline it once was. It's a lot of statistics now, and that does not interest me.
My sister is a linguist. I don't understand her writings at all. They're full of weird symbols.
I made some coffee very strong by accident.
Give!
Mayans used zero as a place saver. They got that there was something there, but they didn't use it as a number.
Exxxxxcellent! [Mr. Burns voice]
http://mfrost.typepad.com/
cute_o...xcellent_m.html
Echidne of the snakes
did a series on statistics, I wish she was my high school statistics teacher ("Hey our teacher is a goddess! And part Snake!" Cool Dude.)
They tried to make it "cool" but using gambling and odds in sports. Two things that I had absolutely no interest in.
I applauded their attempts to make it relevant to people but in may case it didn't stick. I worked hard in the class though. I really think I give 110%
Still, I only got a B which put me in the bottom 1/188th of the class or something like that.
"What kind of office supplies did they request?"
Red Swingline staplers and a "Jump to Conclusions" mat.
Heh, spocko. You did very well in that course.
Zero is NOT a number, it is a concept!
Just like infinity.
So, are we off topic enough to play "name my soup".
"Irving" is already taken.
Mayans used zero as a place saver. They got that there was something there, but they didn't use it as a number.
Tena
So did the, can I say it?, middle easterners, LONG before the Romans.
stop it! us dumb people who barely passed math and physics and chemistry are feeling more stupid with each new post. Damn you intelligent people!
Give!
JR, kerosene and a match
Sending it up the aquaduct. And we have them here, by the way.
My sister is a linguist. I don't understand her writings at all. They're full of weird symbols.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:33 am | #
I went out with a gal who studied linguistics. I'd read a fair amount on the subject, but her homework could've been in Arabic for all the sense I could make of it.
Spocko--we do a little sports betting and poker playing, but we talk mostly about current studies in topics that seem to interest the kids (sexual behavior, food and nutrition, alcohol consumption, mental illness, etc.) I try to bring in good studies that are very recent.
I got discouraged because it isn't the same discipline it once was. It's a lot of statistics now, and that does not interest me.
Tena
I started off wanting to go into Psychology, realized I'd have to do neurochemistry to get answers.
Zero is NOT a number, it is a concept!
Just like infinity.
aangus
*pst*
(all numbers are concepts)
Trig can go to hell.
Sohcahtoa loves you.
"What kind of office supplies did they request?"
Red Swingline staplers and a "Jump to Conclusions" mat.
Alas, they forgot the new cover on their TPS reports, so they ain't getting squat.
The number zero was invented independently in India and by the Maya. In India a decimal system was used, likeours, but they used an empty space for zero up to 3rd Century BC. This was confusing for an empty space was also used to separate numbers, and so they invented the dot for a zero. The first evidence for the use ofthe symbol that we now know as zero stems from the 7thcentury AD. The Maya invented the number zero fortheir calendars in the 3rd century AD.The number zero reached European civilisation throughthe Arabs after 800 AD. The Greek and Roman did not need the number zero for they did their calculationson an abacus.
I feel like telling him not to be a math dick. You will find use for it later.
Max Planck
Absolutely. I find myself using it almost every day, and I'm in a "creative" (whatever the fuck that means) field.
Arthur C. Clarke wrote that innumeracy was a bigger threat to democracy than illiteracy - unless you know how much bigger a trillion is than a billion, all the talk about budgets and spending sounds like gibberish and you have no idea how much they're ripping you off.
So, are we off topic enough to play "name my soup".
"Irving" is already taken.
I offered Cream of Kerosene last night when you were out.
They're full of weird symbols.
Echidne of the snakes
Finnish?
Dan McEnroe--(bangs head against desk, cries about how innumerate people are)
"What kind of office supplies did they request?"
Red Swingline staplers and a "Jump to Conclusions" mat.
What, no "easy" button?
I offered Cream of Kerosene last night when you were out.
Echidne of the snakes
I think the marketing department may have problems with that.
So, are we off topic enough to play "name my soup".
"Oil de Kirkuk"
So did the, can I say it?, middle easterners, LONG before the Romans.
Yep, that's where Babylonia is
They're full of weird symbols.
Echidne of the snakes
Finnish?
She is Finnish, if that's what you mean. All my sisters are. And my brother.
"name my soup"
kerosene and a match
Mellencamp on Leno
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Are you familiar with the works of John Allen Paulos? He is very funny and wrote a couple of great books.
I heard him on the radio one time and though the was so great I ordered the audio cassette of him speaking!
(which tells you how long ago this was!)
I have several of his books. One that is especially interesting for English and journalism majors is:
The Mathematician reads the Newspaper His most famous book is Innumeracy.
Seriously, I made soup, and I don't know what to call it.
Max P--but, but, according to Chimpy, Middle Easterners are like uneducated children!
Arthur C. Clarke wrote that innumeracy was a bigger threat to democracy than illiteracy - unless you know how much bigger a trillion is than a billion, all the talk about budgets and spending sounds like gibberish and you have no idea how much they're ripping you off.
dan mcenroe | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:36 am | #
I wrote a post a while back arguing that there was a conflict of interest in state-sponsored lotteries. The state ought to be explaining, in statistical terms, why you're not going to win, instead of encouraging you to squander your $$ on it.
Without math, people, we wouldn't have reliable, efficient modern day bongs.
Mellencamp on Leno
Sigh. This really is our country, isn't it.
Seriously, I made soup, and I don't know what to call it.
JR, kerosene and a match
"Soup" usually works.
Seriously, I made soup, and I don't know what to call it.
What is the main ingredient or method of preparation?
Finnish?
No, but I'm almost though, now as I was saying...
/wow was that bad.
Arthur C. Clarke wrote that innumeracy was a bigger threat to democracy than illiteracy - unless you know how much bigger a trillion is than a billion, all the talk about budgets and spending sounds like gibberish and you have no idea how much they're ripping you off.
Or how much they really owe Bank of America Corp.
"i'm an american from the midwest" sings Mellencamp
Dylan should see for the tune, and we should sue for the corny lyrics
I wrote a post a while back arguing that there was a conflict of interest in state-sponsored lotteries. The state ought to be explaining, in statistical terms, why you're not going to win, instead of encouraging you to squander your $$ on it.
Phila
It's more like an incentive program. Lotteries are a tax on innumeracy.
Seriously, I made soup, and I don't know what to call it.
Dinner?
Spocko--I really enjoy his stuff. He gives me great ideas for when I'm teaching nonmajors, which is usually
JR, is there such a thing as more of an abstract concept than numbers?
*rolls eyes upward, whistles softly, exits quickly.*
Lotteries are a tax on innumeracy.
JR, kerosene and a match
Eh. My brother won $100k in Powerball.
What is the main ingredient or method of preparation?
Echidne of the snakes
Cream of redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
Seriously, I made soup, and I don't know what to call it.
What's in it?
This thread is very stochastic...
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can we talk about History with a big H instead? I've got diplomas in that you know
This was confusing for an empty space was also used to separate numbers, and so they invented the dot for a zero.
Modern Arabic still uses a dot for a zero. Our symbol for zero (a circle) is their numeral 5.
JR--Bisque de Flatulence?
Arthur C. Clarke wrote that innumeracy was a bigger threat to democracy than illiteracy - unless you know how much bigger a trillion is than a billion, all the talk about budgets and spending sounds like gibberish and you have no idea how much they're ripping you off.
Fuck you, Artie. I know about numbers, and it don't make me feel any better.
What's a factor of ten among friends?
Seriously, I made soup, and I don't know what to call it.
JR, kerosene and a match
what's in it?
So did the, can I say it?, middle easterners, LONG before the Romans.
Max Planck
I thought Arabs actually discovered zero as a number - as having a value.
They invented algebra -
Rabbit chowder?
Lotteries are a tax on innumeracy.
JR, kerosene and a match | 02.24.07 - 12:40 am | #
I'd be OK with that, if innumeracy weren't a goal of government, around which policies are set.
There is a self-defense level of numeracy and many students are not at that level. For example, if you add up numbers between 1 and 80, and then find the average and you get 1000, you should immediately see that something is very wrong. I've had students at a very good university not be able to do that.
We need more doing sums and calculations in the head, I think.
Or how much they really owe Bank of America Corp.
Got in deep in my 20s, now crawling out of it in my mid-30s, but goddamn if I didn't learn how to figure percentages in my head.
I called him up one time and talked to him, nice guy. The think that I loved is just how funny he was. The math majors i know are actually some very funny people. Also, many of them are jugglers. Why? Who knows.
JR's soup should be called Fuckshitpisshell.
And with that, 'mout. l8rh9rs.
I thought Arabs actually discovered zero as a number - as having a value.
They invented algebra
Which is why 8th graders nationwide hate Arabs.
Wittgenstein invented the truth table.
JR, is there such a thing as more of an abstract concept than numbers?
*rolls eyes upward, whistles softly, exits quickly.*
aangus
You can run but you can't hide.
Well, I don't know if an abstract can be "more" or "less" abstract than another abstract, but it's pure abstract plus it's axiomatic. That's a good double whammy.
Cream of redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
Krakow soup?
i'm an "artist"and i suck at the maths.
I did OK... geometry was my downfall.
My father was a math teacher, but I wasn't going to ask him for help (he got both of my sisters through it - and my wife! But that's another story...)
However, many years later, after he'd passed away, I was writing macros for a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet, when I suddenly realized I was actually using, and solving, algebra. And somewhere in the distance, I could hear my father spinning in his grave...
Or how much they really owe Bank of America Corp
While it's not really stats, we devote a lecture to compound interest. A lot of kids leave class terrified.
Lotteries are a tax on innumeracy.
That slogan's not nearly as catchy as "All it takes is a dollar and a dream."
can we talk about History with a big H instead? I've got diplomas in that you know
Didja see this?
Historians Take a Stand
On January 6, 2007, the business meeting of the American Historical Association passed an unprecedented resolution condemning recent government attacks on the free pursuit of historical knowledge. The resolution has been supported by more than one hundred fifty scholars and is subject to ratification by the association's full membership in electronic voting March 1–9, 2007. ...
http://bigego.com/index.php?page...ngs&
display=337
Math Prof Rock Star
Plum P
History eh?
Well a friend of mine got a degree in history. "What are you going to do with that?" I asked him in a mocking tone of voice.
"I thought I'd get a job in one of the big 8 history firms."
what's in it?
redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
Cream of redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
JR, kerosene and a match
Gastromania.
Venn invented the Venn diagram.
Spocko--why math geeks are jugglers: you can do it in your office or in front of your class, and at times, your students are amused.
We do a lot of betting pools, too
night NTodd.
If you think numbers are abstract, run up your credit cards. They get real in big way.
Didja see this?
I did and I think it's way cool.
And with that, I'm going to bid adieux to all you sweet batz and go read and maybe get sleepy.
Sweet dreams - be good to each other.
night.
redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
solidarity soup
I'm hypnotized by that yellow line.
Cream of redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
Potage de Polski?
That slogan's not nearly as catchy as "All it takes is a dollar and a dream."
dan mcenroe | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:44 am | #
Or its correlate: "Wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which fills up faster."
that's good, Monica
Lotteries are a tax on innumeracy.
JR, kerosene and a match
Lottery is a tax on the naive...
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Henry--okay, I'm sending that to every one of my colleagues
Lotteries are a tax on innumeracy.
JR, kerosene and a match
Lottery is a tax on the naive...
It's an extra tax on the poor, mostly.
I learned how to juggle clubs and knives with some math professors. I can pass 6 clubs with another juggler. I know how to eat fire too. (Not an advanced math skill, but it DOES involve chemistry.)
We need more doing sums and calculations in the head, I think.
Echidne of the snakes
Well, it sounds old-fashioned, but maybe teaching the times tables by rote wasn't such a bad thing.
Most of the people I know that have problems with math are doing so because they spend far to much energy on basic arithmetic and are exausted by the time they get to the second part of the problem.
Lotteries are the opiate of the people.
sallyh,
we love it here
half our family are artists, the other half... math prof rock star types
Good evening all.
The lottery is a tax on tragic hope.
JR, all kidding aside, that soup sounds pretty goddamn tasty.
Help me out - name my stir fry of green sqaush, yellow squash, red and orange peppers, shallot, ginger, garlic, sesame , soy and chicken served over basmati rice and I'll name your soup.
Krakow soup?
Echidne of the snakes
Hmm.. tha might work.
My SO looked at it this morning and went:
"it's PINK!"
Can you tell who is the cook in this household?
night Tena.
Spocko - for real? Damn.
bedtime
bonne nuit
Cream of redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
JR's Ukrainian Stew
well, I'm very good at gauging numbers and doing arithmetic in my head, and by hand, but I still did horrible- horrible I tell you-on my math GRE's.
Just kicked the pups out to do their thing, mixing one last strong one. Sleep through the T-storms, I hope.
Well, it sounds old-fashioned, but maybe teaching the times tables by rote wasn't such a bad thing.
That age range when memorizing works like a dream seems sad to waste. A lot of useful things could be quickly learned then.
Help me out - name my stir fry of green sqaush, yellow squash, red and orange peppers, shallot, ginger, garlic, sesame , soy and chicken served over basmati rice and I'll name your soup.
dan mcenroe
What's chinese for "Grocer close early, have sale"?
Tonight I made a light version of a Caesar Salad and a spaghetti carbonara with (freshly grated cheeze from Dean and Deluca! )
BTW, I was at Costco earlier and they had a great sale on "Oscar Winning" DVDs - the two-DVD sets of "Citizen Kane," "Casablanca" and "Yankee Doodle Dandy," $8.99 each. They were selling "Yankee Doodle Dandy," at least, for 25 bucks just last Christmas...
well, I'm very good at gauging numbers and doing arithmetic in my head, and by hand, but I still did horrible- horrible I tell you-on my math GRE's.
Karin | 02.24.07 - 12:51 am | #
I second-guess myself under pressure. Don't trust myself at all.
Cream of redcabbagekielbassapotatoandhorseradish.
JR's Ukrainian Stew
masculine_monica_nyc
I'd call it "Tract Attack!"
I don't name my cookery, I just get 'r done.
Dan. For real. I have all sorts of worthless skills.
What's chinese for "Grocer close early, have sale"?
That's better than "crap I had to cook before it went bad on me."
G'night, all. Going to watch a movie, or something.
That's better than "crap I had to cook before it went bad on me."
Which reminds me that the rice and lentils were both inedible, too.
Hi Uncle Smokes! What the heck is the weather like in your neck of woods?
Tonight I made a light version of a Caesar Salad and a spaghetti carbonara with (freshly grated cheeze from Dean and Deluca! )
i made penne tossed with kalamatas, feta, shredded romano, a little balsimic vinegar and unfiltered olive oil and tomatoes
light version of a Caesar Salad and a spaghetti carbonara
If you had it with carbonara I sure hope it was a light salad.
Phila--remember, your first choice is most likely to be correct.
Echidne- I still remember when we started learning multiplication in 2nd grade, my teacher was annoyed because my grandmother had already had me memorize the times table. That was the wrong methodology, apparently. But it's proved very handy throughout life.
That age range when memorizing works like a dream seems sad to waste. A lot of useful things could be quickly learned then.
Echidne of the snakes
My teachers tried to tell my parents off for teaching me the times tables "before I was ready". *rolleyes*
I was ready, besides, they had to keep me occupied somehow.
To clarify, I asked someone in an earlier thread how old rice and lentils can be to be edible. Mine were older than that.
If this were lgf we would be discussing the twix bars we just deep fried.
I have all sorts of worthless skills.
spocko
I bet I have mor worthless skills than you do.
Phila Night! Hey did you ever see the movie Meet John Doe?
Capra.
Stars Barbara Stanwick and Gary Cooper.
JR--better than when I announced to my parents that I was going to major in math and science, and they said, who's going to marry you if you do that?
night Phila.
And the soup is quite yummy, but I'm not even vaguely Ukranian, so I wouldn't want to affront anyone of that ethnicity.
Xeno's paradox is stated as a continuous function.
were you in my 2nd grade class, jr?
Dan McEnroe--whereas here, we discuss the pecan shortbreads and chocolate caramel cookies I baked this afternoon.
While it's not really stats, we devote a lecture to compound interest. A lot of kids leave class terrified.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
This is something that should be taught in high school, IMHO.
Considering how much of modern life revolves around this concept its a crime how few people actually learn it well.
The one thing B school does well....
i love bloomington, and i love people who are drunk. yeah bloomington drunks, except for nicole cause you done broke my heart.
I have all sorts of worthless skills.
spocko
i am a walking compendium of useless information.
I who's going to marry you if you do that?
Sallyh
Oy.
JR--RC Irish. What can you do?
Dan McEnroe--whereas here, we discuss the pecan shortbreads and chocolate caramel cookies I baked this afternoon.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Now who's gonna marry a mathmetician/scientist who bakes pecan shortbreads and chocolate caramel cookies?
Oh, me! Let it be ME!
Flory--I have some kids who'll get to B school, but not many. And they're certainly not getting it elsewhere.
SallyH - The Morrocan fish tagine from your 'Hungry Blogger' site is a staple round these parts - thought you should know.
Ok JR. It's "who has the most worthless skill time!"
Let see. I already said Fire eating.
How about
I know how to install an Ethernet card on a Window 95 computer. Is that worthless enough or just out of date?
Well, you've kept me up late enough that I have to eat a midnight snack before going to bed.
Uncle Smokes--you could talk to Monsieur about a sharing arrangement...
Dan--we have some great cooks around here, that's for certain. And we're all glad to share.
were you in my 2nd grade class, jr?
Karin
Are your parents first cousins?
(I had an interesting neighbourhood)
Now who's gonna marry a mathmetician/scientist who bakes pecan shortbreads and chocolate caramel cookies?
I could change teams for that.
Where's my storms?
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/
supposed to get noise tonite.
and they said, who's going to marry you if you do that?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
They were of the opinion that math departments were overloaded with women?
Echidne--I'll leave some at the altar.
Flory--no, they're old Belfast. Girls weren't suited to that sort of thing, in their estimation.
but I'm not even vaguely Ukranian, so I wouldn't want to affront anyone of that ethnicity.
JR, kerosene and a match
It's ok. NToddler is gone.
Ok JR. It's "who has the most worthless skill time!"
I was a DOS PC programmer.
Uncle Smokes--you could talk to Monsieur about a sharing arrangement...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Damn. One man stands between me and a lifetime of scientifically delicious baked goods.
Let see. I already said Fire eating.
How about
I know how to install an Ethernet card on a Window 95 computer. Is that worthless enough or just out of date?
spocko
Flint knapping.
I know how to install *anything* on Win9x.
I have many, many useless skills.
I consider cooking to be one of my less useless ones.
I could change teams for that.
Echidne of the snakes
See! See! It IS a CHOICE just like the Wing nuts say!
Why I heard just the other day that they were giving out chocolate lava cakes to people who recruited 2 new members to the gay lifestyle club. Last year it was an iPod and the year before, toasters!
Ok JR. It's "who has the most worthless skill time!"
I have lots of Victorian female skills. I can make lace, embroider, knit and crochet.
I was a DOS PC programmer.
1watt Hermit
I was a COBOL programmer/IBM DOS.
And that wasn't my "first" language.
Flory--no, they're old Belfast. Girls weren't suited to that sort of thing, in their estimation.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yeah, but did you explain what 10 to 1 odds did for your marriage chances?
Your first statistics lesson!!!
And that wasn't my "first" language.
BASIC? FORTRAN?
no, they're old Belfast. Girls weren't suited to that sort of thing, in their estimation.
Old Belfast didn't think girls were suited to much. And then their husbands resented them for not being able to look after themselves.
(Why yes, I am Irish. How could you tell?)
Spent five years studying saber fencing.
Now that's a REAL useful self-defense skill in New York City.
I have lots of Victorian female skills. I can make lace, embroider, knit and crochet.
Echidne of the snakes
Which lace? Bobbin, tatting, whitework or needle?
My mother did bobbin and tatting, I know these things.
I can balance four stacks of coins on my elbow (pennies) and then in one fell swoop drop them off the elbow and catch them with the hand on the same arm without any of them hitting the floor.
BASIC? FORTRAN?
Echidne of the snakes
FORTRAN66, in the WATFOR variant, was my first.
Which lace? Bobbin, tatting, whitework or needle?
No tatting. My bobbinwork is not very good. Largely needlelace. Also crocheted lace and some whitework where you cut out threads.
catch them with the hand on the same arm without any of them hitting the floor.
Richie Cunningham, is that you?
I have lots of Victorian female skills. I can make lace, embroider, knit and crochet.
Echidne of the snakes
I make Alexander Calder-style mobiles out of floral wire and Shrinky-Dinks.
I was a DOS PC programmer.
1watt Hermit
I'm still one. Feh.
dan mcenroe! That is great!
I took fencing in college and loved it. Why did I take it? Just in case I was ever transported back in time to an era where I need to know how to use a sword.
Hey, I time travel a lot, I need skills!
i can discuss cardiac disease, james joyce, bronze casting and modern painting, all in depth.
JR--RC Irish. What can you do?
Sallyh
Become an atheist and move?
Spent five years studying saber fencing.
Now that's a REAL useful self-defense skill in New York City.
dan mcenroe
My tai chi sword is also not very useful. Or how to use a poisoned fan. But it was fun.
"
I read it for the articles, I swear
11/22/05 21:36:34
Great piece in the latest GQ about Sinclair Broadcasting. I couldn’t help but notice this tasty tidbit:
Never mind that (David) Smith’s own behavior had almost nothing in common with (Sinclair’s vice president of corporate relations, Mark) Hyman’s moralistic segments. According to several sources close to Smith, the principal owner of Sinclair has never been the paragon of personal virtue that his stations preach and his political allies champion. Having launched his career selling pornographic videos in Baltimore’s red-light district during the 1970s, Smith has apparently spent the past thirty years refining that passion. After he was caught by police in 1996 getting a blow job from a prostitute while driving a company Mercedes, his sexual adventures became a matter of public record, but according to his friends, that incident only begins to tell the story.
“That was the time he got caught,” says one. “He’s a whoremonger. A real whoremonger. He loves the titty bars. The only people he likes go to the titty bars with him. Those are the only people he trusts. He also goes out to Vegas all the time. He goes to the high-end titty bars. He’s always getting the private upstairs rooms, champagne, the works."'
http://www.dcmediagirl.com/index...20051122-
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Be a programmer for a decade or so. Where's your Jesus now?
transported back in time to an era where I need to know how to use a sword.
might come in handy when the oil runs out. Thunderdome baby!
Hey, I time travel a lot, I need skills!
spocko
Know how to use a longbow and quarterstaf as well as various sharp things that go through soft things that scream and bleed.
I bet your sabre would break if it hit my scramaseax.
I have lots of Victorian female skills. I can make lace, embroider, knit and crochet.
Echidne of the snakes
I can sew a fine hem and turn a collar.
Plus grow my own veggies.
I make Alexander Calder-style mobiles out of floral wire and Shrinky-Dinks.
Sounds interesting. What are Shrinky-DInks?
My tai chi sword is also not very useful. Or how to use a poisoned fan.
There's a reason I switched to aikido.
“He’s a whoremonger. A real whoremonger. He loves the titty bars. The only people he likes go to the titty bars with him. Those are the only people he trusts. He also goes out to Vegas all the time. He goes to the high-end titty bars. He’s always getting the private upstairs rooms, champagne, the works."'
Whoremongering, now there's a useful skill.
Echidne of the snakes
Cobol
spocko is a closet SCAdian?
monica
you're watching bravo, aren't you?
JR, kerosene and a match
I think I'm going to declare JR the winner and ask him to accompany me the next time I step through a time portal. Wow! You rock!
(I want Dan on my team too! Don't mess with 5 years of saber fights, not everyone has JRs talents!)
Be a programmer for a decade or so. Where's your Jesus now?
Trapped in my stack of punchcards.
No tatting. My bobbinwork is not very good. Largely needlelace. Also crocheted lace and some whitework where you cut out threads.
Echidne of the snakes
There's a reprinted book of Victorian needlecrafts around that has some fucking amazing stuff, I think you'd like the Cobert lace and Maltese lace.
My grandfather was the best knitter I knews, BTW. He picked it up in the merchant marine.
Whoremongering, now there's a useful skill.
masculine_monica_nyc | 02.24.07 - 1:11 am | #
Now there's a foundation for a media giant.
Sounds interesting. What are Shrinky-DInks?
Echidne of the snakes
Shrinky Dinks are plastic sheets you can draw on, cut out, and shrink in the oven.
He’s a whoremonger.
I should Google -monger. Ironmonger is a seller. So why is a whoremonger a buyer?
you're watching bravo, aren't you?
Nah, listening to music. What's on Bravo?
I was a DOS PC programmer.
1watt Hermit
I'm still one. Feh.
Max Planck
How? Why?
Night bats. Sleep well all.
Nah, listening to music. What's on Bravo?
taxicab confessions
mainly talking about whoremongering in vegas
spocko is a closet SCAdian?
aangus
I'm out of the closet.
I can turn sugars into alcohol, which is a skill that would make me popular anytime, anywhere.
might come in handy when the oil runs out. Thunderdome baby!
dan mcenroe
I'm thinking more in the lines of Thundarr the Barbarian and his FABULOUS Sun Sword.
"Ookla Ariel! RIDE HARD!"
I do a great Thundarr imitation.
Cobol
1watt Hermit
Invented by Grace whatshername, wasn't it?
I was once tasked with maintaining French COBOL code [shudder].
Cheney to Obama:
"I'm not obligated to understand your traditions, and don't claim to. It's that simple."
How? Why?
1watt Hermit
Oh, not a DOS proggie. Though astonishingly some of my clients still use DOS based apps to run things.
mainly talking about whoremongering in vegas
Gotta say, sorry I missed that.
jr: AMEN!!!
Trapped in my stack of punchcards.
masculine_monica_nyc
Don't dop the box.
My tai chi sword is also not very useful. Or how to use a poisoned fan. But it was fun.
Echidne of the snakes
Some katas and styles of Tai Chi Chuan are more martial than meditative. There are sets with kicks and strikes.
Cheney to Obama......
You're not even a nigger.
What's a SCAdian? I don't think I'm one, but maybe if I knew what one was, I'd be able to confirm or deny.
The problem with David Smith is, as usual, the hypocrisy. Sinclair is this right wing, moralistic outfit, and the CEO is a whoremonger.
It's more of this crap that the morality for the masses does not apply to the people at the top.
Invented by Grace whatshername, wasn't it?
Echidne of the snakes
Admiral Grace Hopper
What's a SCAdian? I don't think I'm one, but maybe if I knew what one was, I'd be able to confirm or deny.
spocko
Society for Craetive Anachronism.
"Life in the Past Lane"
Gotta say, sorry I missed that.
it's still on
I can turn sugars into alcohol, which is a skill that would make me popular anytime, anywhere.
JR, kerosene and a match
I planted 3 dozen elderberry trees to augment my wild ones, how can I safely make a little?
1. A dealer in a specific commodity. Often used in combination: an ironmonger.
2. A person promoting something undesirable or discreditable. Often used in combination: a scandalmonger; a warmonger.
tr.v. mon·gered, mon·ger·ing, mon·gers
To peddle.
That's why the two ways of using monger.
What's a SCAdian? I don't think I'm one, but maybe if I knew what one was, I'd be able to confirm or deny.
Society for Creative Anachronism. Middle ages roleplayers.
Grace Hopper! I believe that was Admiral Hopper before she died.
Some katas and styles of Tai Chi Chuan are more martial than meditative. There are sets with kicks and strikes.
Yes. I also do a little bagua for that and used to do karate for over a decade.
spocko: sorry, missed my mark, but, found a target anyway!
Though astonishingly some of my clients still use DOS based apps to run things.
Max Planck
It's amazing what software is not economically viable to replace.
Admiral Grace Hopper once handed me a nanosecond.
This SERIOUSLY impressed my Unix Geek/Systems Administrator friends.
Society for Creative Anachronism. Middle ages roleplayers.
Nope. But I do look dashing in tights (if I must say so myself.)
Middle ages roleplayers.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
It's not roleplaying.
Cobol
1watt Hermit
Invented by Grace whatshername, wasn't it?
Echidne of the snakes |
No clue, that 10 ft. keyboard machine was funky.
What's a SCAdian? I don't think I'm one, but maybe if I knew what one was, I'd be able to confirm or deny.
spocko | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 1:17 am | #
What Kind of SCAdian Are You?
Take Our Pop Psychology Quiz
http://www.thequarter.org/issue0...ue04/
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Sounds interesting. What are Shrinky-DInks?
Echidne of the snakes
Shrink wrap is more useful than duct tape. Both can be applied to McCain.
The state Democratic Party criticized McCain for his support for the war, calling him "worse than Bush" in a statement.
After the speech, McCain was asked by an audience member if he was "sucking up to the religious right." He drew laughs by responding: "What's wrong with sucking up to everybody?"
It's not roleplaying
No, but it sure is fun!
It's amazing what software is not economically viable to replace.
JR, kerosene and a match
In my experience, they just latch onto the familiar interface. I end up stealing all of their data via ODBC for reporting. It just takes a lot of cleanup, because there is usually no validation at data entry.
"COLUMBIA, S.C. (May 16, 1997 12:25 p.m. EDT) -- A state Board of Education member, talking Tuesday about displaying the Ten Commandments in public schools, had a ready suggestion for groups who might object to it.
"Screw the Buddhists and kill the Muslims," Dr. Henry Jordan said during the board's finance and legislative committee meeting. "And put that in the minutes," he added."
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Yes. I also do a little bagua for that and used to do karate for over a decade.
Echidne of the snakes
http://www.taiji.net/bagua.html
Thank you, pigboy.
It's amazing what software is not economically viable to replace.
JR, kerosene and a match
It's the supply of 6" floppies.
I went to a medieval fair in Finland some years ago, centered on a castle and a cathedral. They had actors dressed as medieval people walking around, and the events included an execution and streetfights and so on. Very interesting.
Thank you, pigboy.
aangus | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 1:23 am | #
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you bet
http://www.taiji.net/bagua.html
Bagua is very hard. Harder than tai chi.
I planted 3 dozen elderberry trees to augment my wild ones, how can I safely make a little?
1watt Hermit
Crush them, throw them in an appropriate food grade pail. You may want to sterilize the must (that's the crushed fruit and juice) by either boiling or sulphiting (comes with instructions). After sterilizing throw in wine yeast. If you have a fitted lid, cut a hole and get and airlock (or buy a pail for wine making that alrady has that), otherwise tie a tea towel tightly around the top of the pail.
Let that "work" for a week or two, then strain it off into a large bottle (carboy) and fit it with an airlock.
Once the airlock stops burping it's done, but leave it alone for a while for the crud to settle to the bottom. Siphon it off, either into bottles, or into another carboy to settle some more.
You may want to buy a little thingie to test your sugar levels, because too little sugar and the wine won't keep well.
Years ago, in fact on 9/11, I worked at a school district where there were 25 state lookup tables. When all these systems were being developed, nobody thought to find out if there already existed what they needed.
Max Did I every tell you about the time I was 'ressaling with some ODBC code trying to get Outlook to talk to Word in order to do a simple mail merge?
Well it all started it a gloomy back office in the downtown SF...
Wish you all a relaxing and rejuvenating and fun weekend! Sweet dreams.
I went to a medieval fair in Finland some years ago, centered on a castle and a cathedral. They had actors dressed as medieval people walking around, and the events included an execution and streetfights and so on. Very interesting.
Echidne of the snakes
That's called The Rennaisance Pleasure Faire out here in CA.
My Sifu.
What Kind of SCAdian Are You?
Take Our Pop Psychology Quiz
D. You aren't exactly an authenticity Nazi, but secretly enjoy the reputation. Fortunately, the new Masterworks competition at Art-Sci will keep you occupied.
Sounds like a good school, senseless sensei.
Echidne
In the really crappy book Timeline by the crazy author Michael Crichton, he makes a comment that what surprised him about the middle ages was how quiet it was (no electronic or machinery humming background noise) and how it didn't Stink (like he thought it would.)
I enjoyed learning both those "facts" and then I realized that most of what I know of the middle ages was based on Monty Python and bad movies.
In the really crappy book Timeline by the crazy author Michael Crichton, he makes a comment that what surprised him about the middle ages was how quiet it was (no electronic or machinery humming background noise) and how it didn't Stink (like he thought it would.)
Also, the furniture wouldn't all have been old and dark then.
Though I suspect it did stink. New York City does, for example, to my sensitive nose.
Beware the "Authenticity Police".
I assume the "stink factor" would depend gratly on where you were. The cities would have reeked.
Sounds like a good school, senseless sensei.
Echidne of the snakes
It is a fine school. I am a poor student.
Beware the "Authenticity Police".
aangus
I'm only an auxillary. I mean, you can sping $2 for some china flats and ditch the fucking Nikes, m'kay?
I grew up in the country and got used to the night being dark as in truly black. That was a big change when I went to college, but also the noises. The country noises were silence and sounds of nature.
Just got back from the opera. "Dialogues of the Carmelites" by Poulenc at the Lyric. Wow. Blew me away. Holy toledo.
JR, kerosene and a match
way back when a girlfriend's dad made a rose petal wine using 4.0L wine jugs & balloons.
Crichton is an idiot and doesn't know the etymology of the word "dungeon".
The country noises were silence and sounds of nature.
Echidne of the snakes
The two things I miss most about the country are the darkness and the "silence".
Goodnight to each and everyone.
way back when a girlfriend's dad made a rose petal wine using 4.0L wine jugs & balloons.
1watt Hermit
You can do that, but my stuff tends to run high, the balloons probably wouldn't make it.
I assume the "stink factor" would depend gratly on where you were.
If you were alone, bearable. Other than that, otherwise. Who does Crichton think he's kidding? There was often raw poopy sewage in the streets until large scale plumbing was developed.
Crichton is an idiot
senseless sensei
You could have stopped there.
The two things I miss most about the country are the darkness and the "silence".
Except when the capercaillies were mating. That was noisy.
and how it didn't Stink (like he thought it would.)
Years ago in York I visited a museum that for some reason decided to reproduce the Authentic Smell of a Medieval Village.
It stank.
m'kay!
"Lords of Light!"
You ain't the only one who recalls Thundarr!
The horses had the decency not to poop back in the "Dark Ages".
If you were alone, bearable. Other than that, otherwise.
Well, you wouldn't be alone in the countryside, and it probably didn't smell any different than a modern farmyard. A small commuity on a river (hey, where do you thinki they dumped those chamber pots) would also not be too bad so long as you stayed upwind of the tanner.
Crichton isn't thinking this through, at least as far as cities go. Quiet? Those masses of people? Horses and wheels clattering? At what point in our history has any gathering of humans been quiet?
Just romantic reationary cryptofascist "good old days" thinking on his part...
The horses had the decency not to poop back in the "Dark Ages".
Horse poop smells good.
dave™© | Homepage | 02.23.07 - 11:50 pm | #
If you missed dave's original notice, I liked this band too. They're a bit early '80s retro, dave saying Bram Tchaikovsky, but "Cop Killer" has the rhythmic feel of the Police's "Invisible Sun." The airy production too
There's also a funny video about a birthday party gone wrong. Kids who look like humanities majors trash talk like gangstas and then fight with light sabers. Tragic results
Well, you wouldn't be alone in the countryside, and it probably didn't smell any different than a modern farmyard. A small commuity on a river (hey, where do you thinki they dumped those chamber pots) would also not be too bad so long as you stayed upwind of the tanner.
In the winter the people must have stunk, though.
A medieval city would be quieter after dark. No street lighting, a lot of people went to bed with the sun because candles were expensive. But life began at sunrise, and it woke up loudly.
I grew up in the country and got used to the night being dark as in truly black. That was a big change when I went to college, but also the noises. The country noises were silence and sounds of nature.
Echidne of the snakes
The night is never black, always moon & stars, always noisy when it's warm, hell cricket frogs, jar flies, whippoorwills, coyotes it's just a more peaceful noise out here. The last time I heard a siren out here was three yrs. ago. screeching tire don't happen on a dirt road.
In the winter the people must have stunk, though.
Echidne of the snakes
Well, it would depend on where and when. Some cultures bathed regularly.
Well, it would depend on where and when. Some cultures bathed regularly.
Mine did, what with the sauna once a week.
I would rather do death by chocolate.
In the winter the people must have stunk, though.
Echidne of the snakes
I think they stunk all the time.
I would rather do death by chocolate.
Than what?
I had too much of that strong coffee.
Well, it would depend on where and when. Some cultures bathed regularly.
JR, kerosene and a match
That whole "Dark Ages" thing just describes a post-Roman European spasm where folks weren't guaranteed security. They still wanted to be clean, for Crissakes.
everyone look at my myspace blog! i think i may have done something wonderful and now im drunk and shamelessly promoting it. word.
The night is never black, always moon & stars, always noisy when it's warm, hell cricket frogs, jar flies, whippoorwills, coyotes it's just a more peaceful noise out here
Winter brings silence.
A summer's night before a thunderstorm is blacker than Toby's arse.
Horse poop smells good.
Doesn't bother me either.
The night is never black, always moon & stars, always noisy when it's warm, hell cricket frogs, jar flies, whippoorwills, coyotes it's just a more peaceful noise out here. The last time I heard a siren out here was three yrs. ago. screeching tire don't happen on a dirt road.
A different climate. Where I grew up the winter was just one long silence and darkness.
Mom, I think your young granddaughter has doubled in size the past 2 weeks.
Well, I'm going to make some digital noise, as far removed from the Dark Ages as can be, that I hope does not stink.
Y'all take care of your good selves.
Mine did, what with the sauna once a week.
Is there anything the Finnish can't do?
I'm starting to like you Finns almost as much as I like Canadians!
Of course, I grew up in a city, and now live in about as rural a place as I can imagine, with the ocelots and pumas across the road and all.
Cities smell nicer than cows.
Mine did, what with the sauna once a week.
Echidne of the snakes
Laversdag.
There's a fair bit o' Norse and Saxon in my background. Not a lot of respect for other people's property rights, though.
Mom, I think your young granddaughter has doubled in size the past 2 weeks.
I noticed! I check several times a day.
Mr. Crichton should be dropped into an oubliette - a dungeon with the only entrance or exit being a trap door in the ceiling.
Word History: The word dungeon may have gone down in the world quite literally, if one etymology of the word is correct. Dungeon may go back to a Medieval Latin word, domni, meaning "the lord's tower," which came from Latin dominus, "master." In Middle English, in which our word is first recorded in a work composed around the beginning of the 14th century, it meant "a fortress, castle" and "the keep of a castle," as well as "a prison cell underneath the keep of the castle." Dungeon can still mean "keep," although the usual spelling for this sense is donjon, but the meaning most usually associated with it is certainly not elevated. It is also possible that dungeon goes back to a Germanic word related to our word dung. This assumed Germanic word would have meant "an underground house constructed of dung." If this etymology is correct, the word dungeon has ended up where it began.
Horse poop smells good.
Echidne of the snakes
That can depend on the horse's last meal. Some grains can ferment in their digestive tract.
Where I grew up the winter was just one long silence and darkness.
Except for the kids, that's us...
Is there anything the Finnish can't do?
We can't talk or smile or hug. We're very good at drinking, though and good at losing wars against the Russians and still existing.
They still wanted to be clean, for Crissakes.
Max Planck
Well, not if you didn't know any better, and bathing opportunities were more restricted.
The river? Remember where they emptied the chamberpots...
Than what?
Death by murder.
Where I grew up the winter was just one long silence and darkness.
Except for the kids, that's us...
It is great for the kids, though. I never felt any depression from the darkness.
I noticed! I check several times a day.
She's almost painfully cute.
Right now she's running around like a maniac, having had her nap.
You should do videos of Maddie, fourlegs.
We can't talk or smile or hug. We're very good at drinking, though and good at losing wars against the Russians and still existing.
Substitute "English" for "Russians," and you're Irish.
Slainte.
Mr. Crichton should be dropped into an oubliette - a dungeon with the only entrance or exit being a trap door in the ceiling.
Trivia: Obliette was also the name for a certain type of early "online" security, in which the hacker was led down a false trail, couldn't back out, and was hopefuly there long enough to be traced.
We can't talk or smile or hug.
Well for a person who can't talk, you sure as hell can write!
And smiling is overrated. I should know.
Hugging? Who needs that?
I'm not big on Celts.
Mwah, spocko.
I've lived abroad for a while, so I can imitate some of the local traditions. Twist lips upwards for greeting, for example.
You should do videos of Maddie, fourlegs.
Well, my new cell phone has a video camera, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to get the video onto my laptop.
The manual is rubbish.
By the time I figure out how to put video on YouTube, she'll be fully grown.
It is great for the kids, though. I never felt any depression from the darkness.
Mischief is a great cure for depression.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 1:24 am | #
There used to be medieval fairs when I was in college in Sarasota FL. "Leprous beggar" was considered a good job for students, as it required no skills, you could do it drunk or high, and you got to keep half your loot
Hugging? Who needs that?
spocko
(me)
I find darkness soothing.
Children are depressing
"Leprous beggar" was considered a good job for students, as it required no skills, you could do it drunk or high, and you got to keep half your loot
Draco | 02.24.07 - 1:54 am | #
And how much loot could a leprous beggar get? Wouldn't everybody run away?
The river? Remember where they emptied the chamberpots...
JR, kerosene and a match
Yes, and bacterial isolation wasn't really scientifically accepted until Pasteur got jiggy wid it.
Sometimes I wonder if many discoveries weren't at least the second time around.
That can depend on the horse's last meal. Some grains can ferment in their digestive tract.
senseless sensei
I bought a truckload of horse manure for a garden 10 years ago. When spring arrived, I knew every friggin thing those horse ate the year before. fought those weeds all yr long.
new cell phone has a video camera, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to get the video onto my laptop.
My cell phone makes it easy. You just email it to yourself! Only one thing. It costs money to email it! Bastards!
I got a cord and some bootleg software to get it off "for free".
Only problem? If you screw up with the bootleg software your phone becomes a brick.
Sometimes I wonder if many discoveries weren't at least the second time around.
According to my father my great-grandmother used mold to treat bad wounds. She saved some guy from amputation. The mold had to be particular type that she carefully looked for. Sounds like penicillin to me.
Oh Uncle Smokes I'll give you a hug (but don't tell Michael Medved about it! He'll think you are trying to convert me!)
The river? Remember where they emptied the chamberpots...
JR, kerosene and a match
If the castle was under seige they might empty them into the oubliette, if they couldn't empty them over the walls onto the English surrounding the castle.
According to my father my great-grandmother used mold to treat bad wounds. She saved some guy from amputation. The mold had to be particular type that she carefully looked for. Sounds like penicillin to me.
Echidne of the snakes
could have been mosses or lichens, seem to remember using moss to heal wounds.
Sounds like penicillin to me.
Echidne of the snakes
We know that there was this ancient big-assed world liberry at Alexandria. It burnt with all of it's scroll-based knowledge. Sometimes we find out that the ancients had their shit together.
My cell phone makes it easy. You just email it to yourself! Only one thing. It costs money to email it! Bastards!
Exactly!
I don't want to pay for the service. I have a USB cord to the phone, there ought to be a way to just download it to my laptop.
Or else I can find a card reader that reads the type of memory chip I have in my camera (one of those teensy little SD thingees).
test
Sometimes I wonder if many discoveries weren't at least the second time around.
Columbus was only the third to discover the New World third. The French discovered it first.
And how much loot could a leprous beggar get
If a leprous beggar could beg lepers?
but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to get the video onto my laptop.
USB port? email it?
Sometimes I wonder if many discoveries weren't at least the second time around.
Columbus discovered the New World the third time around. The French found it first.
Just so that you all feel as old as me!
http://towsertv.petetownshend.co.uk/
but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to get the video onto my laptop.
USB port? email it?
but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to get the video onto my laptop.
USB port? email it?
My cell phone makes it easy. You just email it to yourself! Only one thing. It costs money to email it! Bastards!
Bah.
Damned haloscan. Yeah, it's the same with mine, and I don't want the service because I'm never going to be emailing photos to people.
I guess I'll see if I can find a card reader that will read the little SD card in my phone.
Well, it would depend on where and when. Some cultures bathed regularly.
JR, kerosene and a match | 02.24.07 - 1:43 am | #
I read a bio of Peter the Great that said the Finns and Russians were the only halfway clean people in Europe at the time.
The Russians adopted the sauna, and added their own wrinkle to it. Every ten minuted or so you run naked into the snow where attendants await to swat you with birch switches. Hard. When you've had enough you run back into the sauna. Very relaxing
Echidne--The whole idea for a leprous beggar was to scare people into giving them money. You'd follow them around until they did. I never did it, but the average take worked out to less than minimum wage. But the intangibles were fun, and the free ale was tangible
but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to get the video onto my laptop.
USB port? email it?
Well, I do have a USB cord, but there doesn't seem to be software to let you do that.
And yes, I can email it, but then I've got to use their internet service on my phone (which I don't want) or else subscribe to their picture service, which I also don't want.
The camera supports Pict-bridge, it oughta support direct to PC transfers as well.
But then they couldn't rope you into a higher bill.
I'm sad that I missed Obama today while I was sitting in a meeting talking about web site bullshit.
I'm sad that I missed Obama today while I was sitting in a meeting talking about web site bullshit.
my son was there. he said people were really excited.
Mr. Crichton should be dropped into an oubliette - a dungeon with the only entrance or exit being a trap door in the ceiling.
K&Y?
birch switches
Yes. But you use them to beat yourself in the steam, not in the snow.
Has everyone been Haloscanned to oblivion? I'll just add something from the Peter the Great bio.
He couldn't get over how bad the French smelled. They thought bathing was unhealthy and just kept adding layers of scented powder, creating a mishmosh of aromas--sweat, rotting dead skin, and the finest flowers in the land
The camera supports Pict-bridge
Is it blue?
Frikkin fingers...
The French found it first.
senseless sensei
K&Y?
Okay, this is bizarre, haloscan is posting stuff from a while ago.
STOP IT!!
Yes. But you use them to beat yourself in the steam, not in the snow.
Echidne of the snakes
Roll in the snow, have nubile thang of your prefernece gently lash you in the steam, right?
Is it blue?
Ha!!
Red, actually.
Echidne--I'm just reporting what I read in the book. Maybe times have changed regarding when you get hit with birch switches. But the image of Russian nobles rolling naked in the snow while their servants beat them remains indelible
Roll in the snow, have nubile thang of your prefernece gently lash you in the steam, right?
Not the nubile thang, sorry. You beat your own self with the birch switches, hard, until you go all red.
You beat your own self with the birch switches, hard, until you go all red.
Echidne of the snakes
Where's the fun in that?
The female bathers in public saunas were always very old women, by the way.
Where's the fun in that?
It's an in-thing? The birch releases a wonderful fragrance and you scrape off dead skin that way. I was never that keen on the switch, actually, but I used to make them for winter.
The female bathers in public saunas were always very old women, by the way.
Echidne of the snakes
You know, there's a comment I would make here, but I'm going to pretend I have class.
The birch releases a wonderful fragrance and you scrape off dead skin that way.
Strigils, nubile Iish slaves and some looted Italian olive oil.
To clarify, by "bathers" I meant the women who wash you in a public sauna. They may still have them, and they are always very old women.
Haloscan is being a bitch, yes?
Bite me haloscan.
Good evening, bats.
We're on self-flagellation tonight, are we?
Have I mentioned lately that HaloScan sucks?
We just went through the Elevenses PST.
To clarify, by "bathers" I meant the women who wash you in a public sauna. They may still have them, and they are always very old women.
Echidne of the snakes
Well, the theory is the same.
To clarify, by "bathers" I meant the women who wash you in a public sauna. They may still have them, and they are always very old women.
Can't finnish people bathe themselves?
We're on self-flagellation tonight, are we?
No, just bathing.
And penicillan. And cell phones.
And kittenz.
We're also discussing how haloscan sucks donkey dicks.
Can't finnish people bathe themselves?
The public sauna is an institution which is probably dead by now. They used to exist, a little like Turkish baths, and you could get washed and massaged (read: pummeled) by the old ladies.
We're on self-flagellation tonight, are we?
No, just bathing.
If you're beating yourself with birch till your skin is red, I have to say, that's some self-flagellation right there.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
The switches also make the heat experience stronger. My father loved it.
you could get washed and massaged (read: pummeled) by the old ladies.
Echidne of the snakes
Well, that would keep things "loose", and the old ladies get to work out their frustrations.
i think there are still public bath houses in hot springs, echidne.
I think we should bring back strigils.
And the nubile strigil weilders.
i think there are still public bath houses in hot springs, echidne.
HenryFlowerLovesMinaPurefoy | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 2:33 am | #
There are indeed. That's a weird little town...
There are indeed. That's a weird little town...
it sure is :DDD
Stop saying "nubile", Jr.
Althouse has another column up in the NYTimes.
Of all the things I've found offensive this past year or so, that's one of the worst.
That a fucking crappy writer and sub-par intellect like hers would be rewarded with a guest gig at the NYTimes.
It's a fucking travesty.
Stop saying "nubile", Jr.
annieangel
Why?
I've never been to a public sauna. Each house has its own for the family use, so the people who go to public ones are either tourists or those who live in rooms. But I learned a lot about the so-called "sauna wedding ring" which was a cheap ring you bought so that you could go to a public sauna as a pretend-married couple. All this was a long time ago.
Althouse has another column up in the NYTimes.
I got some e-mails about that. I'm supposed to do something about Althouse.
Well, I am happy to report that Maddie is making sure that I will be safe from the Feather on a Stick monster this evening.
I've never been to a public sauna. Each house has its own for the family use, so the people who go to public ones are either tourists or those who live in rooms.
the ones in not springs are gov't owned, and the hotels also have them.
Because. It's weird that you've used it more than once is all.
I see they knocked down the Ho King, btw.
I got some e-mails about that. I'm supposed to do something about Althouse.
I wish someone would.
What the hell were they thinking? Who read the excreable nonsense she writes and thought, "Wow!! now there's a writer!!"??
For fuck's sake.
Because. It's weird that you've used it more than once is all.
It's weird that you find it weird that words get used more than once.
I see they knocked down the Ho King, btw.
annieangel
you don't get out much, do you moppet?
What the hell were they thinking? Who read the excreable nonsense she writes and thought, "Wow!! now there's a writer!!"??
Probably. They have David Brooks in the stable, too.
Because. It's weird that you've used it more than once is all.
It's weird that you find it weird that words get used more than once.
Quit saying "weird."
There are indeed. That's a weird little town...
I'm moving to nw ar in three weeks because of this 'lil town. Already put in my notice.
Quit saying "weird."
rorschach
Did your sisters object?
There are indeed. That's a weird little town...
I'm moving to nw ar in three weeks because of this 'lil town. Already put in my notice.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 02.24.07 - 2:43 am | #
You're moving to NW Arkansas b/c of Hot Springs? Which is not in NW Arkansas?
Please to explain?
Frikkin fingers...
The French found it first.
senseless sensei
K&Y?
JR, kerosene and a match
The solutrian hypothesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Sol...rean_hypothesis
If clovis points are a record of the first migration across to the new world, we should see them in Siberia. We don't. Their spear tip technology was completely different.
The hypothesis rests upon particular similarities in Solutrean and Clovis technology that have no counterparts in Eastern Asia, Siberia or Beringia, areas from which or through which early Americans are known to have migrated.
Even mitochondrial DNA studies support the theory. The only resistance to the hypothesis is that "modern man" can't accept that prehistoric man crossed the atalntic without steamships and GPS.
They just knocked it down, Jr. I went past it on Monday and part of it was still being taken down and it was a big mess.
What's your fascination with the whole "nublie" thing? Did you get it in a word a day and are trying to use it in conversation?
rorschach, have I told you how good your blog is? You find stories nobody else does.
Now that Hell-o-scum seems to have settled down:
Just too make you all feel older
http://towsertv.petetownshend.co.uk/
rorschach, have I told you how good your blog is? You find stories nobody else does.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 2:46 am | #
Really? Thank you.
Damn! You just made my night, Echidne. I didn't really know you were a regular, even.
Now I'm all proud of myself!
(I'm also weird and nubile.)
P.S.
Annie: LOL,LOL,LOL!!!
Damn. Haloscan ate my post.
Damn! You just made my night, Echidne. I didn't really know you were a regular, even.
I am. I read everything once a week, sometimes more often. Also check out the cats so that you don't get beaten by switches.
'lo, dears.....
Hugs to Sarah Deere. How are you this night?
Iran and the US have much in common, such as bellicose gov'ts chock full of religious fanatics. The populaces seem to have much in common too:
"Who cares about the nuclear issue? People want to buy things," said Bahareh, a woman from a central Tehran middle-class district. "I went to the main bazaar today to shop for my daughter, and it was much busier than this time last year."
Shopping!
Anyway, Althouse is still banal and stupid.
But you all knew that. So nevermind.
mmmmmmmm....nubile.........
We lived in nw ar for 3yr and had a family breakdown.
Now, we are ready to move north.
Aw, shit. It's a cool place to live. We want to raise our little girl there.
Anyway, Althouse is still banal and stupid.
She is very good at banality, though. Or so Thers tells us.
Also check out the cats so that you don't get beaten by switches.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 2:49 am | #
Heh. Nor poked with brooms (and us without even a sauna!)...
Again, thank you. I'm very glad and extremely proud that you like it.
It goes without saying (or, rather, it shouldn't and now it doesn't) that I am a huge fan of your place as well. I ♥ your writing style.
Good evening, Deere. How goes it?
It goes without saying (or, rather, it shouldn't and now it doesn't) that I am a huge fan of your place as well. I ♥ your writing style.
Maybe we should merge the blogs. In fact, maybe this night shift should all start a blog together.
She is very good at banality, though. Or so Thers tells us.
Honestly, I don't know how he reads her stuff.
It's mind bendingly boring.
Anyway, Althouse is still banal and stupid.
Great gams, though
Echidne...
My g'daughter had her bone marrow taken today, and you know how often people speak of certain child cancer patients as being exceptional? Alora is, and that's not just my bias. I've already heard the nurses talking sotte voce about her - "That's a smart one". "Yes, she is - put it in your notes."
Her 5th grade teacher came to see her, and he and I talked for a long while. He says she's a natural leader, so intelligent, so kind to everyone. He said she read everything he threw at her last year. He said it became a goal for him to give her
increasingly challenging reading material. She'd come back to him in 4 days and say, yes, that was good -what next? He came today with a backpack full of books for her. Lovely man.
After her bone marrow procedure, the nurses were transferring her from her
gurney back to her bed and she was in a lot of pain and snapped at them,
apparently. When I poked my head in the room (I had been outside with her
teacher and trying to stay out of the way), I heard them say, okay, sweetie, you're good to go now. Alora whispered "thank you" - and then told them she was sorry for "being mean" to them. I told her teacher and he said, "that's Alora, through and through." She stands up for the picked-on, confronts the bullies and
the "mean" people.
When she was born, I knew she was special, yet I just thought she was special to me. She is apparently special to lots of people. Anyone who knows her is affected positively by her.
I hope for a miracle - and I do not discount them.
I spoke w/my grandson this eve and we talked about his being scared, and I
reminded him how much his sister loves him with a Tale From the Past - which he remembered perfectly!!!
Such a deal. I fall in love w/this family I have all over again.
Even mitochondrial DNA studies support the theory.
senseless sensei
1) They weren't "French"
2) There are some problems with the hypothesis. One major one is that X2A is anciently divergent, the other is that there are pre-Clovis sites.
The chronology of the population of the Americas is very, very complex.
hey sarah!
It's mind bendingly boring.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 2:53 am | #
As opposed to "groin-grabbingly good!"
/Homer Simpson
Great gams, though
How do you know this?
Ror, I'm an RN and I am excited about getting into Hospice Home Care.
NW AR is very attractive to me.
Anyway, her new column sez that even though Mitt, Rudy and St. McCain are ridiculous on the abortion issue, we should listen to them with "sympathy" and realize that it's okay for them to be ridiculous.
Or something.
Sarah, I'm sending good and healing energy to you and Alora and lighting candles for her.
Did you get it in a word a day and are trying to use it in conversation?
annieangel
My word of the day is "chemoautotrophic".
And I have worked it into a conversation.
Going to read Althouse now. Back in a sec.
Ror, I'm an RN and I am excited about getting into Hospice Home Care.
NW AR is very attractive to me.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 02.24.07 - 2:57 am | #
I lived in Fayetteville for 2 years. I liked it well enough.
I'm trying to post kitten pictures and blogger ate them.
Blogger must have a crush on Maddie too.
And I have worked it into a conversation.
i thought it was reticuloendothelial
today
Going to read Althouse now. Back in a sec.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Good heavens.
1) They weren't "French"
Colombus wasn't Spanish, either.
That's besides the point. We are discussing the nature of "discovery" and how something is usually "discovered" several times before someone who came across it after the fact takes the credit.
rorschach, have I told you how good your blog is? You find stories nobody else does.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 2:46 am | #
I still want to post that quote on my blog.
i thought it was reticuloendothelial
today
HenryFlowerLovesMinaPurefoy
You just wanted to use "reticule", didn't you?
Goodness, Lil'Jackel brought me a drink of water. The coolest, most refreshing water one could want. Then he tells me he scooped it from the toilet. Bastard. I regret I’m largely responsible for his sense of humour.
Some late night Maddie.
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...ight-
photo.html
Colombus wasn't Spanish, either.
I don't know anyone who thinks he was.
And a lot of "discoveries" don't fit your paradigm.
I still want to post that quote on my blog.
Be my guest.
You want a word of the day?
How's "pandiculation" work for ya?
I don't think Echidne's coming back. She has ventured too deep into the caustic fog....
ALthouse is out of her mind, it seems. What is it that she wants preserved? Nothing of substance, but something to do with....what, exactly?
It's real women who will die with coathangers up their uteri, but at least we have preserved...something???
There's an unfortunate tendency to fall for "hidden knowledge" scams, and the meme that major discoveries are "ancient"/"lost" fits into that meme.
I don't think Echidne's coming back. She has ventured too deep into the caustic fog....
Heh. I do feel very sleepy, finally.
How's "pandiculation" work for ya?
"socle"
Yeah, now try coming up with weird technical terms without using medical dicitionaries/jargon....
Or "gobemouche"
Yeah, now try coming up with weird technical terms without using medical dicitionaries/jargon....
Not weird, but I like the gibbous moon. In bad books.
She had her bone marrow taken today, and you know how often people speak of
certain child cancer patients as being exceptional? Alora is, and that's not
just my bias. I've already heard the nurses talking sotte voce about her -
"That's a smart one". "Yes, she is - put it in your notes."
Her 5th grade teacher came to see her, and he and I talked for a long while. He
says she's a natural leader, so intelligent, so kind to everyone. He said she
read everything he
threw at her last year. He said it became a goal for him to give her
increasingly challenging reading material. She'd come back to him in 4 days and
say, yes, that was good -what next? He came today with a backpack full of books
for her. Lovely man.
After her bone marrow procedure, the nurses were transferring her from her
gurney back to her bed and she was in a lot of pain and snapped at them,
apparently. When I poked my head in the room (I had been outside with her
teacher and trying to stay out of the way), I heard them say, okay, sweetie, you're good to go now. Alora whispered "thank you" - and then told them she was
sorry for "being mean" to them. I told her teacher and he said, "that's Alora,
through and through." She stands up for the pick-on, confronts the bullies and
the "mean" people.
When she was born, I knew she was special, yet I just thought she was special to
me. She is apparently special to lots of people. Anyone who knows her is
affected positively by her.
I hope for a miracle - and I do not discount them.
I spoke w/my grandson this eve and we talked about his being scared, and I
reminded him how much his sister loves him with a Tale From the Past - which he
remembered perfectly!!!
Such a deal. I fall in love w/this family I have all over again.
And a lot of "discoveries" don't fit your paradigm.
JR, kerosene and a match
Stumbling across a major continent is probably one that does. Edison didn't invent the light bulb, and some folks think Crick and Watson "borrowed" their work from a woman named Rosalind Franklin. It's quite often the case, whether you or I agree with it or not.
Not weird, but I like the gibbous moon. In bad books.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 3:07 am | #
That is where the gibbous moon likes to hang out, isn't it?
As do most things "seedy." (Well, bad books and Graham Greene, at any rate.)
"alizarin"
Not weird, but I like the gibbous moon. In bad books.
Echidne of the snakes
One of my pet peeves....
Clouds are not "lowering", they are "louring". If you don't know the word don't fucking use it.
Do you have any results yet, Sarah Deere?
"alizarin"
HenryFlowerLovesMinaPurefoy
I grew madder.
She had her bone marrow taken today, and you know how often people speak of certain child cancer patients as being exceptional? Alora is, and that's not just my bias. I've already heard the nurses talking sotte voce about her - "That's a smart one". "Yes, she is - put it in your notes."
Her 5th grade teacher came to see her, and he and I talked for a long while. He says she's a natural leader, so intelligent, so kind to everyone. He said she read everything he threw at her last year. He said it became a goal for him to give her
increasingly challenging reading material. She'd come back to him in 4 days and say, yes, that was good -what next? He came today with a backpack full of books for her.Lovely man.
After her bone marrow procedure, the nurses were transferring her from her
gurney back to her bed and she was in a lot of pain and snapped at them,
apparently. When I poked my head in the room (I had been outside with her
teacher and trying to stay out of the way), I heard them say, okay,sweetie, you're good to go now. Alora whispered "thank you" - and then told them she was sorry for "being mean" to them. I told her teacher and he said, "that's Alora,
through and through." She stands up for the pick-on, confronts the bullies and the "mean" people. When she was born, I knew she was special, yet I just thought she was special to
me. She is apparently special to lots of people. Anyone who knows her is affected positively by her.
I hope for a miracle - and I do not discount them.
I spoke w/my grandson this eve and we talked about his being scared, and I
eminded him how much his sister loves him with a Tale From the Past - which he remembered perfectly!!!
Such a deal. I fall in love w/this family I have all over again.
"quidnunc"
ALthouse is out of her mind, it seems. What is it that she wants preserved?
Republican control of the WH.
She's an idiot. And a horrible writer.
"quidnunc"
What now?
There's an unfortunate tendency to fall for "hidden knowledge" scams, and the meme that major discoveries are "ancient"/"lost" fits into that meme.
JR, kerosene and a match
Don't bring Atlantis into this. Let's deal with facts.
Maddie makes me smile, fourlegs.
Results will come no sooner than Momday. Fortunately, I know the head of Path, and he is on call this weekend and says one his colleagures (who is "superb") will be working on my g'daughter's biopsy, and he will oversee, and they promise to nail the Dx.
Monday, we will know what we face.
Clouds are not "lowering", they are "louring". If you don't know the word don't fucking use it.
JR, kerosene and a match
And don't fucking use "literally" when you mean "figuratively", bitch!
Maddie makes me smile, fourlegs.
Me too.
She's helped heal my broken heart.
Monday, we will know what we face.
It will be easier to know than to wait. I'm so sorry that you have to go through this.
sarah,
i have high hopes for a great outcome.
Well, I'm to bed.
Good night dear moonbats.
Good night, fourlegs.
Grt this nonsense, as reported in Ha'aretz:
The United States demanded that Israel desist from even exploratory contacts with Syria, of the sort that would test whether Damascus is serious in its declared intentions to hold peace talks with Israel.
In meetings with Israeli officials recently, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was forceful in expressing Washington's view on the matter.
The American argument is that even "exploratory talks" would be considered a prize in Damascus, whose policy and actions continue to undermine Lebanon's sovereignty and the functioning of its government, while it also continues to stir unrest in Iraq, to the detriment of the U.S. presence there.
So the Israelis finally decide it might be advantageous to be at peace with their neighbors, and BushCo pronto lowers the boom.
I also like the logic of "Syria should be shunned because its meddling in Lebanon and Iraq interferes with US meddling"
Will the Israelis obey? They the least obedient of client states when it suits them
night 4lg
Yah well... late, sleepy here... so... Nytol!
Clouds are not "lowering", they are "louring". If you don't know the word don't fucking use it.
JR, kerosene and a match | 02.24.07 - 3:09 am | #
Dictionaries disagree. Louring is better, but lowering is not incorrect (there's a citation from 1581 that uses the "w" rather than a "u" in the OED.)
http://
boblusksramblings.blogspo...914079900527799
Glenway Fripp, aligators, black holes and b-flat 57 octaves below middle C, a million billion times lower than you can hear.
Sarah D--I wished you well the other nigh, but I think you'd already left.
I told a story about my Aunt Dot, who survived lymphoma over a decade longer than predicted. Upon her death, she left a snide note to her doctors telling them all the ways she'd violated their protocols, and that's why she did "well."
I doubt things will come to that in your gd's case. That's not happy talk; it's statistics.
I see zit isn't here tonight but roarass is
Good night, bats. I will be thinking of you, Sarah Deere. Be in good cheer. All will be well.
night moonbeams. sweet dreams.
sarah, you and yours are in my thoughts.
Good luck, Sarah.
Let's deal with facts.
senseless sensei
OK, let's.
There is also an Asian presence of the X haplotype, and the ancient divergence of the X2a haplotype makes a now lost/moved Asian origin at least as likely as an origin in what is now France.
If there was a very ancient European influx (which I'm not ruling out) it was more probably from the Ukraine. Similar lifestyles and environment, very adaptable culture.
Stone tool forms are very highly dependent on the materials most readily available. Similarities between Solurean and Clovis are not evidence of anything in particular.
The presence of pre-Clovis populations in the Americas puts the final nail in that coffin.
The early chronology of the Americas in very largely unknown. However, no one believes that the Clovis culture was the first one here anymore.
(there's a citation from 1581 that uses the "w" rather than a "u" in the OED.)
rorschach
Shall we discuss 16th century spelling habits?
Actually, no, I have to get some sleep.
G'night chiropterae.
Grt this nonsense, as reported in Ha'aretz:
The United States demanded that Israel desist from even exploratory contacts with Syria, of the sort that would test whether Damascus is serious in its declared intentions to hold peace talks with Israel.
What I detest is the strange, mealy mindedness of BushCo’s view of the world. It’s like they are cheesy, second-rate dog trainers – that is how they view the world. Joe Wilson being sent to Niger on a junket? If the man wanted a vacation he could spend a week in a tropic paradise without breaking a sweat. But Cheney thinks he would take a week in Niger to ‘junket.’ Similarly, that Damascus would frolic over the notion that an Israeli response to a serious Syrian proposal cannot be entertained. This is the real world. These are serious matters and Syria is not a misbehaving poodle.
Shall we discuss 16th century spelling habits?
Actually, no, I have to get some sleep.
G'night chiropterae.
JR, kerosene and a match | 02.24.07 - 3:29 am | #
Well, if you're bitching about spelling, then yeah.
Anyways, g'night.
Graham Greene
KABOOM!!
The early chronology of the Americas in very largely unknown. However, no one believes that the Clovis culture was the first one here anymore.
JR, kerosene and a match
As long as you don't try to argue that the Atlanteans discovered the New World, I accept your surrender.
My singular concern about the debates over the peopling of the Americas is a minor one. There are individuals and organizations who advocate that if there is a European element to the peopling of the Americas that negates the treaty relationship the first peoples of the Americas have with extant governments.
That position is sheer lunacy. However, those individuals and organizations even now advocate the dissolution of the treaties and frankly would do so regardless. But imagine living in rural North America and having to deal with those folks year after year and generation after generation.
As long as you don't try to argue that the Atlanteans discovered the New World, I accept your surrender.
senseless sensei | 02.24.07 - 3:36 am | #
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the atlanteans did not discover the new world. they were the founders of all the ancient civilizations in both hemispheres. you're not one of those lunatics who believes it was ancient astronauts, are you?
the atlanteans did not discover the new world. they were the founders of all the ancient civilizations
Way down, below the oceans...
The Atlanteans discovered Georgia.
actually, i think there may be something to the atlantis myths. not really sure what, though. it's one of the things i enjoy reading crap "non-fiction" about. that and the knights templar.
someday i would like to write my own bestselling crap "non-fiction" book linking the atlanteans and the knights templars.
Olaf, Barboro dies...
Olaf, Barboro dies...
Erik Von Daniken | 02.24.07 - 4:02 am | #
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yeah, i heard. it's a shame.
so far my plan is to mostly just make shit up about atlantis and the knights templars, and put in a bunch of other stuff kind of ripped off at random from "the golden bough".
NTodd,
Have you stopped over to Firedoglake lately? They are talking about your legendary commenting on the LIEberman 2006 blog.
Hail Atlanta!
Echidne asked me how I was, I commented. it screwed up; I re-did, ditto; happened a third time. Then, seemed to work, but I can't find my comment.
What the hell. I'm on my knees. If it wasn';t for bad news, wouldn;t have any news at all.
I mean, you know?
Tough I am thankful for my position in life, wherein I can be helpful to my beloveds.
But - god fucking damn. You know?
i'm making the hoards of kids listen to al dimeola
hee
sarah
it is not fair
it is
love you
Hmmm... just noticed that over at The Carpetbagger Report the US has found/created a new job for Ahmed Chalabi.
:::The WSJ reports, “In a new post created earlier this year, Mr. Chalabi will serve as an intermediary between Baghdad residents and the Iraqi and U.S. security forces mounting an aggressive counterinsurgency campaign across the city. The position is meant to help Iraqis arrange reimbursement for damage to their cars and homes caused by the security sweeps in the hope of maintaining public support for the strategy.”:::
Here's a real factlet about Atlanta GA where every third road or building or business seems to be named Peachtree, even Chinese restaurants.
Well, it wasn't a peach tree; it was a pitch tree, a big pine used as a meeting place and informal border by the natives. This type of pine was loaded with flammable sap (pitch). The whites soon picked up on its value as a trading post
Atlantans had already named everything Peachtree when in the late 19th century they noticed they didn't actually have many peach trees. Better get some or look stupid
morning, all.
Sarah,Deere, all good emanations and a candle for your g'daughter - and hopes that she'll be okay.
the cat woke me up. she's supposed to be on a diet, but I'm a pushover.
'so far my plan is to mostly just make shit up about atlantis and the knights templars, and put in a bunch of other stuff kind of ripped off at random from "the golden bough".
Olaf glad and big'
Can you fit Plagiopolis into the title somewhere?
Tom--That sounds like a perfect job for Chalabi. He can now expand his repertoire to insurance fraud. Everyone with a rustbucket junker in Baghdad will be bribing Ahmed to get a new Mercedes. I bet he'll deliver too
Olaf--Don't forget crop circles, Nostradamus, the Kabbala and the Freemasons in your book. I'd hate to see your scholarship derided as narrow and incomplete
Pakistan has a large, fertile, and restive population,
and is still dealing with the aftermath of colonial overlords; many of whose citizens are Muslim fundamentalists unused to operating in a cosmopolitan atmosphere. As terrorist havens go, it's a perfect storm waiting to happen.
Of course you have to wonder why a guy who couldn't receive even 1/2 of 1% of the registered vote is seen as a reliable intermediary with the Iraqi populace?
Tom, Pat Buchanan received less than 1% of the popular vote in 2000 and is a veteran of the criminal Nixon Administration, yet is employed as a conservative elder statesman and pundit!
'seen as a reliable intermediary with the Iraqi populace?
Tom - 大肚腩 '
Beauty is in the I of the beholder.
E Pluribus Unum!
Beauty is in the I of the beholder.
Ruth |
Hey, the Busheviks got the Curveballs they were paying for, when they needed some fake information laundered.
Guess some Bushevik still owes Chalabi some chits.
CrashCart has had a lovely tour of South Asia, hasn't he?
Tom, the choices again and again of 'one of their own' has proved the deepseated and justified fears of the cretin in chief that he will be found wanting if he lets anyone with independent judgment into the inner circle. I expect it has been from a lifetime of experience of the kind.
plantsman, I like the theory that Darth is trying to avoid a subpoena.
CrashCart has had a lovely tour of South Asia, hasn't he?
plantsman, lowercase |
I liked his comedy routine on the Chinese military needing to be more transparent.
Now about those energy commission minutes and memorandum, Big Time Dick?
It's funny. People here yesterday were nattering about a big A-380 deal between UPS and Airbus.
As often happens, the sum looks to be less than the parts. In article posted 20 minutes ago at the Toronto Star's website, the announcement boils down to Boeing agreeing on paper to still further delayed delivery dates for the 10 A-380's it has on order, while reserving the right to cancel the order entirely. What has been firmly ordered are:
SEATTLE, Feb. 15, 2007 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] and UPS, the world's largest package delivery company, have finalized the carrier's third order for Boeing 767-300ER (Extended Range) Freighters. UPS, the freighter's launch customer in 1993, is ordering 27 airplanes to join its existing fleet of 32 767Fs, with deliveries from 2009 through 2013. The new order pushes the total number of 767s ordered to date to 1,005 airplanes, including 77 freighters. UPS has eight 747-400 Freighters and two 747-400BCFs (Boeing Converted Freighters) on order.
Deaths of contractors in Iraq
:::In a largely invisible cost of the war in Iraq, nearly 800 civilians working under contract to the Pentagon have been killed and more than 3,300 hurt doing jobs normally handled by the U.S. military, according to figures gathered by The Associated Press.:::
:::The U.S. has outsourced so many war and reconstruction duties that there are almost as many contractors (120,000) as U.S. troops (135,000) in the war zone.:::
...And of course, the contractors, should they survive unscathed, are making out like bandits in comparison to service people.
As I understand it, a lot of the contractors have military experience. this is sort of like the capitol hill staffer moving into lobbying. without the bullets.
Military training absent military supervision, is kind of scary, imo.
One thing that can be said with certainty: The ANS debacle put Rita Cosby's career back in motion.
As I understand it, a lot of the contractors have military experience. this is sort of like the capitol hill staffer moving into lobbying. without the bullets.
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A way for the Busheviks to shovel more money to their political cronies, while hiding the true casualty figures from teh American public. (since according to Dumbya, every casualty is being done for the sake of swaying the US TV audience)
Here's Cheney getting philosophical, pondering a question as subtle as "When does life begin?" or "When do we reach the horizon?" or something.
Yet for all his reflective Socratic pondering, the translation remains "We'll bomb Iran whenever the fuck we want to."
‘You get various estimates of where the point of no return is,’ Mr Cheney said, identifying nuclear terrorism as the greatest threat to the world.
‘Is it when they possess weapons or does it come sooner, when they have mastered the technology but perhaps not yet produced fissile material for weapons?’
To continue the thought, is it when they print the physics textbook? Is is when a grade schooler gets a good grade in math? Is it when they completely outsmart BushCo in Iraq? The speculative temptations are endless.
Deep thoughts
Darth Cheney: Deeply Delusional.
Smoking guns...Mushroom clouds....What's the diff?
Military training absent military supervision, is kind of scary, imo.
plantsman, lowercase |
Like those "mercs" in Afghanistan convicted of running a freelance prison that claimed they were doing it for the Busheviks.
Tom, they're putting asylum seeking refugees in prisons here in the U.S. - which no doubt are making money for the buds also.
I have always tho't they were trying to make as much $$ as they could before the public got wise and pitched them out, and they're more surprised than anyone that they're able to keep it up. Darth is pure theatre, he's playing a fantasy aimed at the fundraiser crowd in Houston. Think NRA nuts. HE'S THE MAN.
and they're more surprised than anyone that they're able to keep it up.
We were talking about this at dinner last night. How the hell have they managed in such a short amount of time to so totally screw the country, the Constitution, our laws, traditions, and so on. And they keep getting away with it.
They fired another U.S. attorney yesterday. I think it's because they want to fire Fritz and this is nothing but a pre-coverup. See, they'll say, it's not because Fritzpatrick is getting ready to indict Dick. We fired all these other guys too!
BTW, at the homepage I've headlined the vets' treatment when they need 'support' and are turned down routinely.
MoDo, continuing on her self-appointed mission to skewer every candidate, sticks a pin today in St. John McCain:
But there’s one huge group that he’s not pandering to: Americans.
Most Americans are sick and tired of watching things go hideously backward in Iraq and Afghanistan, and want someone to show them the way out. Mr. McCain is stuck on the bridge of a sinking policy with W. and Dick Cheney, who showed again this week that there is no bottom to his lunacy. The senator supported a war that didn’t need to be fought and is a cheerleader for a surge that won’t work.
I guess someone's gotta do it.
ql, the most recent hit in prosecutors had been put in by this admin. You're right, this is cover. I also think the manufactured Cheney on Pelosi is to distract from the Treason Trial.
So I'm guessing the Academy Awards are on a major network Sunday. Anyone remember which one?
Charley Reese suggests another reason why BushCo finds war with Iran appealing:
If we do attempt to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, it should provide a good test of Russia's air defense system, a version of which the Russians have sold and installed in Iran. It will be interesting to see how well it works – though not, of course, for our pilots.
With any other admin, I'd dismiss Reese as paranoid, or at least a worrywart who shouldn't let his mind drift when he can't sleep.
But with BushCo, I can see them making this argument, rephrased, with straight faces, all on the same page.
"If they use sock puppets, then its a real problem. That could hurt the blogs."
Yeah it's a real problem alright, like the nameless faceless corporate sock puppets that pollute your air, foul your water, steal your money, foment wars, spew garbage on your airwaves, violate your privacy and constitutional rights and generally continue to fuck up the entire planet on a daily basis. A large part of the whole security meme is nothing more than a fascist totalitarian control ploy.
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What galls me is: the Administration has already admitted that they don't know where all of Iran's nuclear project sites are, that many if not most are deeply buried, and that funding for the burrowing nuclear "bunker buster" weapons was cut off. So what are the reasonable chances of "success" going into this vain enterprise? None?
Oh, now I feel better.
"Most Americans are sick and tired of watching things go hideously backward in Iraq and Afghanistan, and want someone to show them the way out."
Most Americans are sick and tired of watching and suffering as things go hideously backward right here in America as well. Hideously backward sums up this entire 6 year reign of intentional error.
Arrest, Impeach, Try, Imprison, NOW.
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But, Truth, don't you know that if we don't kill them over There they're going to break in thru your front door? And every one we kill makes more of them coming to your door?
AARP's "kids with consciences" commercials are cute -- but being heavily conflicted by endorsing and marketing insurance plans will someday cloud their vision past all clarity.
"If they use sock puppets, then its a real problem. That could hurt the blogs."
Truth |
As opposed to having your prime talent being picked up WaPo and not lasting a week due to repetitive plagiarism issues. *cough*boxturtle ben*cough*
Why anyone takes Red State seriously anymore is beyond belief.
When I was on jury duty there was one juror who showed up late every single day, was even late coming back from lunch. She didn't pay attention during the trial and didn't interact at all with the other jurors. I was an alternate. The jury requested two readbacks, both instigated by this woman because she needed clarification. Eventually the jury would have found for plaintiff, but she wanted to stretch out her moment of importance. Too many people have seen Twelve Angry Men and want to be Henry Fonda. I suspect the juror who didn't wear the red shirt is like the juror in my case.
My case settled during deliberations. I think with Plame we'll either have a hung jury or conviction.
You can get a coupon (worth up to $3.99) for Coffee-Mate Creamer by signing up at www.coffee-mate.com/
by the end of the month, but I'm not sure it's worth
having to suffer through the over-cute website design and annoyingly "innocuous" Muzak there.
As I understand it, and admit I haven't followed the trial very closely, the defense made no case. If there isn't a conviction, it will look very shady.
Gilliard is in the hospital. Apparently he has an infection that just isn't going away with conventional antibiotics. It's scarey. There are only something like five levels of antibiotics and we're seeing more and more infections going up to levels three and four.
And in related Iraqi death count news.
Americans drastically underestimate Iraqi death count
:::Americans are keenly aware of how many U.S. forces have lost their lives in Iraq, according to a new AP-Ipsos poll. But they woefully underestimate the number of Iraqi civilians who have been killed.:::
Guess the Bushevik strategy of purposefully not counting Iraqi deaths was successful in obscuring the numbers for Merkins.
But then there is this quote:
:::Christopher Gelpi, a Duke University political scientist who tracks public opinion on war casualties, said a better understanding of the Iraqi death toll probably wouldn't change already negative public attitudes toward the war much. People in democracies generally don't shy away from inflicting civilian casualties, he said, and they may be even more tolerant of them in situations such as Iraq, where many of the civilian deaths are caused by other Iraqis.Christopher Gelpi, a Duke University political scientist who tracks public opinion on war casualties, said a better understanding of the Iraqi death toll probably wouldn't change already negative public attitudes toward the war much. People in democracies generally don't shy away from inflicting civilian casualties, he said, and they may be even more tolerant of them in situations such as Iraq, where many of the civilian deaths are caused by other Iraqis.:::
Sockpuppets alive and well. Over at correntewire, ChicagoDyke put up an article asking for views on FOX hosting a Dem candidate debate. I just answered a winger just puppeting away for FOX. They have no minds, just pockets and sox.
http://www.correntewire.com/
to_f...debate_debating
An antibiotic resistant strain of Staphylococcus aureus which excretes poisons has climbed in frequency of being seen in TX emergency rooms from extremely rare to very common ion the last year.
As I understand it, and admit I haven't followed the trial very closely, the defense made no case
Ruth--Did you at least hear the closing argument? Where the lawyer talked about his charge of protecting poor li'l Scooter, pleading in tears "Give him back to me"? I was thinking Sally Field in "Not Without My Daughter."
Seen Sally Field's Generation 2 Boniva ads?
Someone got her a good director!
Athenae has a kick ass post up.
Ted Wells is apparently renowned for his tearful summations. Many reporters said they took it as a sign just how weak the defense was.
Draco, no one could miss the reports of 'Give him back' anymore than we could the tears of the ANS judge, who reportedly has out a tape, looking for a tv show.
That staph is sure to be claimed a product of the imagination if it gets to court.
"How to Use Weasel Words to Imply Things on the Front Page of The New York Times That You Know You Cannot Support With Facts" by Adam Nagourney, here:
"But when it came to tallying the final score on the most intense engagement so far in the 2008 presidential race, even Mr. Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, seemed to acknowledge that he may have been outmaneuvered.
Take out the weasel words "seemed to" and "may have" and it reads:
"But when it came to tallying the final score on the most intense engagement so far in the 2008 presidential race, even Mr. Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, acknowledged nothing at all, including the entire premise of this piece."
Remember, when you read the words "seemed to" -- Hamlet: "Seems, Madam? Nay, it is. I know not 'seems' " -- you can be pretty sure the writer is just making s**t up. -Eric Alterman
Anne Kornblut (late of the NYT, now of the WaPo)
has somehow developed a rapport with Tweety, but
she plainly fears and distrusts KeithO; judging from her lack of comfort last evening on Countdown. Keith was unfailingly gentle and polite, but more work must be done if they wish to have a parnership of some kind.
Judge Larry rather over-played his hand, I thought.
Another gay bashing Baptist minister caught soliciting sex from an undercover policeman is seeking help from the ACLU. No money was mentioned so it is unclear if any law was actually broken.
Ruth | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 6:50 am | #
I looked at your response to daveinvoca. So our FOX defender first makes up some cable ratings, then channels the spirit of Brecht, who he claims would be laughing at Dems, siding with FOX by implication.
I bet he's the type of jerk who knows one decontextualized thing each about a few great authors. If you asked him what Shakespeare thought of lawyers, he'd say "Shakespeare wanted to kill them all."
Never mind that WS was a lawyer, 26-0 in court by the way
Now, mebbe it's just me, but didn't Ted Haggard claim he was an extremely active monogamous heterosexual during his 3-year fling with Mike Jones, man-ho? So, how can anyone know he's "cured" and "completely heterosexual" now?
Cheney says he prefers diplomacy with Iran.
That lie made my brain hurt.
Nothing Cheney says is to be believed.
trifecta, the only way not to drop my jaw at everything Cheney says is to classify him as a campaign prop, programmed to stir up the deep pocketed backwoods elements of the GOP.
plantsman--I missed those Boniva ads. Indeed I had to Google to find out what Generation 2 Boniva might be. It sounded like a mini-SUV
"Now, keep in mind, this is the same guy that said we'd be greeted as liberators, the same guy that said that we're in the last throes. I'm sure he forecast sun today," Obama said to laughter from supporters holding campaign signs over their heads to keep dry. "When Dick Cheney says it's a good thing, you know that you've probably got some big problems."
A spokeswoman for Cheney, traveling with him in Australia, said they had no comment on Obama's remarks.
Bwahahaaaa!
btw, on CSpan callers responding to proposal to recall giving power to the cretin in chief to negotiate, so he went to war and said Well You Said I Could, snif.
Is there a non-caricature in the right wing? Pro'ly something even scarier, I fear.
It's Sally saying that deciding which osteoporosis medicine to take might be easier than deciding "what to wear tonight." She's lovely, much more comfortable, much less stilted-sounding than in the first batch (in rose sweater with tomatoes and imaginary "girlfriend") It's her 2nd generation of ads, nothing more.
Brief good mornings, before i go off to the hospital.
Now, mebbe it's just me, but didn't Ted Haggard claim he was an extremely active monogamous heterosexual during his 3-year fling with Mike Jones, man-ho? So, how can anyone know he's "cured" and "completely heterosexual" now?
Cause Ted is studying for a psych degree so that he can start up a bidness 'curing' ho-mo-sexshality, just like he was 'cured'. They wouldn't let him start that bidness if it wasn't true, right?
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'going off to the hospital' gave me a turn there, before I remembered it's not for your own treatment. Have a good day. Hope you don't have the TX staph uglies.
Ted Haggard has been 'scared straight' heh.
Just checking back in; glad to see no incog-related hijinks have plagued the blogs this night.
Nothing Cheney says is to be believed.
'S funny to me, that so many of the Bushites think W. is The Jesus. If any of them are a concept made flesh, it's Biggus Dickus.
Of course, the concept in question is the complex of cynical, self-serving political lies that was once called "Pravda". Wonder what it would be called now.......
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Just checking back in; glad to see no incog-related hijinks have plagued the blogs this night.
You and me both, rors! It was interesting to note how quickly he vanished after his powers of repulsion were pointed out -- but I won't assert a strategy from same.
'Wonder what it would be called now.......
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Fox
Nothing Cheney says is to be believed.
'S funny to me, that so many of the Bushites think W. is The Jesus. If any of them are a concept made flesh, it's Biggus Dickus.
Silly!
It's not a lie if you believe it!
I am getting a new freezer today. It's a sign of getting old that I am more excited about it, then say the stereo I got last month.
Morning, all
Morning, all
'going off to the hospital' gave me a turn there, before I remembered it's not for your own treatment. Have a good day. Hope you don't have the TX staph uglies.
Sorry Ruth, and thank you. Unfortunately, MRSA (methicillin-resistant staph aureus) is endemic everywhere in the healthcare system. Hospital "frequent-flyers" and sepecially nursing home dwellers seem to get it just as a matter of time.
Drug company research into new antibiotics is down - too much liability, not enought profit margin. So it goes.
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A social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University has statistically proven what many have suspected for years: there is a direct link between mental illness and support for Cheney, Bush and the current GOP.
The thesis draws on a survey of 69 psychiatric outpatients in three Connecticut locations during the 2004 presidential election. Chris Lohse’s study, backed by SCSU Psychology professor Jaak Rakfeldt, and by statistician Misty Ginacola, found a direct correlation between the severity of a person’s psychosis and their preferences for president: The more psychotic the voter, the more likely they were to vote for Bush.
“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’”
The study was an advocacy project designed to register mentally ill voters and encourage them to go to the polls, Lohse explains. The Bush trend was revealed later on.
The study used Modified General Assessment Functioning, or MGAF, a 100-point scale that measures the functioning of disabled patients. A second scale, developed by Rakfeldt, was also used. Knowledge of current issues, government and politics were assessed on a 12-item scale devised by the study authors.
“Bush supporters had significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,” the study says.
Lohse says the trend isn’t unique to Bush: A 1977 study by Frumkin & Ibrahim found psychiatric patients preferred Nixon over McGovern in the 1972 election.
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Morning DWD
There is a story out of England today about superbugs killing more people in hospitals. The anti-biotic resistant buggers are growing more powerful.
The absolute numbers of deaths are still low, but it's growing really fast.
'Wonder what it would be called now.......
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Fox
*snort*
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I got a Bose Wave last year and I love the sound quality -- but when I had the epic battle with Sears to fix my refrigerator/freezer, that felt IMPORTANT!
I got a 16.7 cubic foot stand up freezer. It's important for me because it means less cooking. I am going to make big batches of family favorites, freeze out portions so I don't have to be figuring out what's for dinner every night.
'“Bush supporters had significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,” the study says.
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Truth '
Got a link? I would love to share that with friends. It's not as if it isn't obvious, but always nice to have statistical research.
DWD, how's it going? At the homepage I'm kinda getting into health care, and Barndog left an interesting comment yesterday a.m.
You and me both, rors! It was interesting to note how quickly he vanished after his powers of repulsion were pointed out -- but I won't assert a strategy from same.
plantsman, lowercase | 02.24.07 - 7:31 am | #
Indeed.
Say, anyone here want to finish my dissertation up for me right quick?
Or go to my job in my place six days this coming week?
Either way works for me.
There is a story out of England today about superbugs killing more people in hospitals. The anti-biotic resistant buggers are growing more powerful.
The absolute numbers of deaths are still low, but it's growing really fast.
Oh, yeah, in some of my bad moments, i forsee a time when 1940-20something will be seen as The Golden Age of Medicine - "The time when antibiotics worked". Much scary.
Sometimes i even wonder if all the granny, herbal remedies are the same thing - that in 8000 BC it worked as a cure, but today the diseases have become resistant, so garlic (for example) just adds flavor to soup, and not a cure for something. All tha old herblore might once have been as powerfully effective as the modern pharmacopea - well, as it it at the moment.
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One of the true beauties of diabetic eating is that the proportions of fats vs. proteins vs. carbohydrates are so well-defined that meal preparation can be reduced to a breeze if one so desires -- or if the creative beast arises, one can go there, too.
Ruth,
I am doing okay I guess. Still trying to deal with getting up in the middle of the night for an hour or so and then sleeping later in the morning. There are advantanges but I miss my morning friends.
I miss my morning friends.
DWD | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 7:39 am | #
We're just not good enough for you!
*sob*
oh,heck, it's hailing like anything here now. There go my daffodils.
Meanwhile...
Late Catblogging!
Link to newspaper report on statistical analysis proving direct correlation between psychosis and voting for Cheney/Bush:
http://tinyurl.com/ydko4a
There you go Ruth.
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It's taken a while to begin to notice results, but GWPDA sent me a book that talks of affecting glucose intolerance and insulin resistance (the hallmarks of Type 2 diabetes) by supplementation of anti-oxidants, vitamins and minerals. It's hard to quantify, but there is no question that my blood glucose is more well-managed now than 2 months ago.
cynicus, those superbugs are supposed to be a result of a period of over medicating, right? I suspect drugs fed to our food as much as anything. So we need to get those out of our systems, supposedly.... but do the bugs then go away? [I fear not.]
JP, now known as "Guy w/Two Cats" had me in stitches when he related how LarryElvis is hard to photograph now because he reacts to the noises of the camera before it's ready and runs out of the frame!
JP, now known as "Guy w/Two Cats" had me in stitches when he related how LarryElvis is hard to photograph now because he reacts to the noises of the camera before it's ready and runs out of the frame!
plantsman, lowercase | 02.24.07 - 7:45 am | #
He sounds like Miriam, who does not run, but has a preternatural ability always to be blinking when photos are taken. She can sense it coming.
Thanks Truth, I will use that. Even tho I will pro'ly hear from a certain cynic descended from me directly that Statistics can be used to say anything (altho he will agree with this set).
Global Climate Change may continue unaffected, but we are getting rain in NW Oregon instead of the predicted El Nino dry winter -- and for that, I'm thankful.
"Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things...every one! So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor." -- Matt Santos, "The West Wing" from Actor212
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Trifecta's Conservapedia word of the day for today is Dinosaur.
'has a preternatural ability always to be blinking when photos are taken. She can sense it coming.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot'
if you teach her to like cameras, say, feed her off of one, it will change negative behavior. :-}
. . . and I am getting typically nervous. I have six Atriots theoretically reading my books now. (ErinPDX, TJ, plantsman, Diane, PlumP, and Rorshchach- of course) This always makes me feel kind of giddy.
Writers are really no different from musicians or painters: it is just that our "art" is not easily comprehended and therefore we tend to be a lot more neurotic.
And please do remember, if you choose to go have a look at Zora and Gramsci tonight, that broompoking can only be averted by comments.
I don't make the rules, I just suffer because of them.
if you teach her to like cameras, say, feed her off of one, it will change negative behavior. :-}
Ruth | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 7:51 am | #
Now there's an idea! But curry sauce, I imagine, isn't good for cameras...
Well, the condo has white carpeting throughout. I suggested pulling it up and putting in wood flooring, the easiest thing to keep clean, but Mr. QL vetoed the idea as too expensive. Then he made a few trips without me and noticed that he stained the carpet just by wearing his slippers to the mailbox and back. Now he's decided that new flooring would be a good thing.
I await the arrival of your tome expectantly, without pre-judgement. I will have to wait, but I'm tempted to say i can't!
Yellow plastic waterproof cameras, which would go nicely with many curry formulations, can be had.
cynicus, those superbugs are supposed to be a result of a period of over medicating, right? I suspect drugs fed to our food as much as anything. So we need to get those out of our systems, supposedly.... but do the bugs then go away? [I fear not.]
It's a genetics problem, meaning that it's statistical and slippery to answer, but basically it's evolution in action. (Note to strict creationists - you don't like this, you explain it another way).
Most bacteria have a breeding period marked in hours, so there's quite fast response to an environmental stressor like an antibiotic. If the antibiotic is pressnt in a stress level, but not a lethal level (as in stopping taking your prescription before it's all done, or in trace amounts in a food supply) then the resistant bugs have an advantage, and tend to outbreed the nonresistant. end result, resistant bugs overall.
IF the factor that makes for resistance has an opportunity cost for the bug (uses energy/resources, slower reproductiuon, something) then, if the antibiotic is withdrawn from use for long enough, then the remaining non-resistants may breed back in and restore the antibiotic's usefulness. But ther are lots of factors that don't seem to have such opportunity costs - and the new discoveries about how bacteria share genetic info makes it even more complicate.
So, short answer: once they learn to resist an antibiotic, they pretty much will be resistant for good, or for the equivalent in practical terms.
Sure, the best answer would be reducing antibiotic use. But Americans expect SOMETHING for their doctor visits - and American lawyers WILL sue if they think they can show that the MD didn't do something he could have. And that doesn't even count countries like India, where antibiotics are OVER THE COUNTER drugs.
As i said, i fear that before i die, i may see medicine returned to the 1930's in terms of disease treatment.
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"...(some say) Statistics can be used to say anything" -Ruth
Noo, no no no. When the GOP uses statistics, they are always accurate and nothing more needs to be said. Anyone who does say anymore is unpatriotic.
And when anyone else uses statistics, well, statistics can be used to say anything. What is wrong with you? Haven't you learned anything from Fox.
After all, they're Fair and Balanced and they even say so themselves, so it must be true.
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plantsman,
The book has not arrived there yet? (It has made it to the other places it was sent the same day - including Diane in CA I think)
'But curry sauce, I imagine, isn't good for cameras...
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Nor for breakfast.
My ex and I rented our house in Eugene, OR to a family of questionable repute many years ago.
When they absconded and we travelled to right the mess, it appeared an oil-change had been done on the pale beige carpeting in the living room next to the fireplace.
Yellow plastic waterproof cameras, which would go nicely with many curry formulations, can be had.
plantsman, lowercase | 02.24.07 - 7:55 am | #
Ah, yes! We used those while snorkeling in Hawaii.
A brilliant idea.
My complex has a curious arrangement of small boxes for each unit and two large locked bins for larger items and it had not arrived thru yesterday
evening.
And when anyone else uses statistics, well, statistics can be used to say anything. What is wrong with you? Haven't you learned anything from Fox.
After all, they're Fair and Balanced and they even say so themselves, so it must be true.
"Pravda" means "Truth".
'Vanity, vanity, all is vanity, and there is no new thing under the sun'.
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it appeared an oil-change had been done on the pale beige carpeting in the living room next to the fireplace.
Sounds like someone rebuilt their Harley in the living room.
Morning.
Plantsman, you mean you don't change your oil in the livingroom or eat in the garage? What's wrong with you?
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Good discourse, Truth, and tells me what I suspected, we're breeding ourselves off the planet - which if anyone gets Bizarro world, today's comic is a perfect comment on that, but I can't seem to find it online, just in the print DMNews.
Morning, dude, how fare ye?
A garage delays rust and would be a lovely thing, indeed, but I traded one for a furnace.
Rorschach,
I posted this last night before bed: this is partially where my brain is going (I hinted about this earlier)Thought you might be interested. (And this thread will be dead shortly anyway) "Remind me when I am not partially stoned and I will do a better job. Briefly, these are some of my concerns.
Reading has become a discipline in the schools that is being dissected and analyzed. We are losing wonder at the cost of analyisis. Instead of marveling at Kipling we are dismissing talking animals as being silly. We are teaching students that all good writing has certain characteristics and if writing does not contain these characteristics, it cannot be good.
The choice of literature in the schools - more than any time in my experience going back about fifty years at this point - is becoming increasingly political. We are not choosing material because of the quality but for the political expediency of the story. This one is really scary.
Alternatives to reading are not only being promoted endlessly they are increasingly in quality and availablity. Previously the amount of non-book material was severely limited. Every day that passes increases the competition that books must face.
Books, because fewer are being sold, are becoming more expensive. When you can buy a DVD of the latest movie for a third of what a hardcover book costs . . . .
Because book production costs have increased endlessly there are cost cuts that have been instituted that have had an effect on the finished product. Line editing is now done - almost as a rule - out of the publisher's hands. A book is expected to be camera ready when it is accepted for publication. This leaves the editing to the writer, the agent, and anyone else they can cajole into working on the book.
Books themselves have become the subject of self-censorship by writers and editors with certain subjects just ignored because the trouble they would raise cannot be justified by the profit to be made by the book
In a world increasingly defined by the visual and audible the written word becomes less important daily.
Awp, look at the time! Must get going to the working day. Good joss to all!
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I fare like shit today. Vaguely able to walk once again.
But, I'm alive. I wonder why at times how I did make it this far...
As i said, i fear that before i die, i may see medicine returned to the 1930's in terms of disease treatment.
Cynicus - 7:55 am
From "Total Sports"
(Bill) Tilden even remained as the world’s best player after having the top of his middle finger on his racquet hand amputated due to infection.
it appeared an oil-change had been done on the pale beige carpeting in the living room next to the fireplace.
Sounds like someone rebuilt their Harley in the living room.
Or substituted 10W-30 for K-Y jelly.
"Pravda" means "Truth" -Cynicus
Ah. Quite so, quite so.
However:
"Truth" does not mean "Pravda".
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My sister gave me PD James' latest in hardcover for Christmas. It was a most enjoyable, quite sensual read, mostly because the author is so talented and sure in her deployment of language.
Reading has become a discipline in the schools that is being dissected and analyzed. We are losing wonder at the cost of analyisis. Instead of marveling at Kipling we are dismissing talking animals as being silly. We are teaching students that all good writing has certain characteristics and if writing does not contain these characteristics, it cannot be good.
The choice of literature in the schools - more than any time in my experience going back about fifty years at this point - is becoming increasingly political. We are not choosing material because of the quality but for the political expediency of the story. This one is really scary.
I really don't think I agree with most of this. Who is "we"? Who is dissecting and not teaching wonder? I think most teachers are choosing good books and teaching them well. The stupid fuck-ups make the news, but the real story is quite different.
I like curry sauce for breakfast myself. I like to take potatoes scrambled with eggs and put curry sauce on top. It's good stuff.
I may get a staph infection from wading thru ANS coverage trying to see the News. Aaaaarrrrrrrghhhh.
As i said, i fear that before i die, i may see medicine returned to the 1930's in terms of disease treatment.
Cynicus - 7:55 am
From "Total Sports"
(Bill) Tilden even remained as the world’s best player after having the top of his middle finger on his racquet hand amputated due to infection.
Gimlet
Gimlet, if you think amputation isn't done routinely today for persistent infections, you haven't worked in a hospital. Diabetic foot/leg amputations for persistent infections are almost common.
And now, i really MUST be going.
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Sorry to hear it, Barndog. If I had not experienced it, I would not have believed it was possible to forget how to walk in a brief period -- but it happened not long ago.
In a world increasingly defined by the visual and audible the written word becomes less important daily.
DWD | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:06 am | #
The demise of the written word has been predicted for decades. I don't see it happenin'.
'Or substituted 10W-30 for K-Y jelly.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in'
I think I met that guy....
Curry on eggs and potatoes? Hmmmmm. Maybe with green onions.
rorshach,
Ain't been in the primary schools lately, eh?
Maybe the secondary schools are still doing a good job but we are sending you students who are pretty much functionally illiterate because of what most teachers teach. That is the truth.
I look around at the teachers in my school and I were not there, there is not one who has either an understanding or a will to teach "literature." They are perfectly content to teach skilz utilizing the latest piece of shit text the textbook manufacturers include . . . .
Conservatives don't really like books. They contain dangerous ideas.
They burn them.
They try to ban them from schools, like the Lexington, MA couple suing over a children's book "Who's in a Family?"
Yet exposure to visual media also ignites the mind's ability to conjure scenes from written words, I find. Honestly.
DWD-
Your comparison of the cost of a book versus a DVD struck me. At the college level, one of the largest staffs used to be the library. Now it is computer services. There appears to be a shift away from the written word to images. This would seem to be intellectually destructive. But larger forces may be at work. There is a somewhat odd book that argues we are moving away from a +2000 year old tie with words and back to a connection with images: Shlain, L. The Alphabet Versus the Goddess: The Conflect Between Word and Image.
Barndog, I emailed you. Used a small piece of your story in today's post (at cab drollery and at correntewire).
There was a really apt editorial in WaPo, btw.
'Or substituted 10W-30 for K-Y jelly
Had to be a biker.
Maybe the secondary schools are still doing a good job but we are sending you students who are pretty much functionally illiterate because of what most teachers teach. That is the truth.
I look around at the teachers in my school and I were not there, there is not one who has either an understanding or a will to teach "literature." They are perfectly content to teach skilz utilizing the latest piece of shit text the textbook manufacturers include . . . .
DWD | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:12 am | #
All right, yeah, you're probably right. I'd an uncharacteristic moment of optimism going on there...
But, yes, the students who show up in the undergrad courses I've taught have tended to be rather less than literate, and my job has often been a lot of undoing the damage done...
I am not predicting the imminent demise of the written word, but I am saying that the written word - as we understand it - will continue to diminish in its role.
Writing and the creative process that it represents will still be the basis of all that we do. But people will increasingly have the end product sythesized for them whether it passes through a visual or an auditory filtering mechanism.
graphic novels and the unnovels being promoted as TV shows are excellent examples of this new media. I am not sure what forms they will take. I can almost envision a novel being two pages long with each word hypertexted into a variation of the story or something. Perhaps with visual and auditory compliments as part of the links.
What we are on the cusp of is might change.
Birch tree off to the west doing a fantastic job of catching the dawn light. Wonderful, dark skies as background. I should already have gotten my digital camera/binoculars up and working. That's larn me.
There appears to be a shift away from the written word to images. This would seem to be intellectually destructive. But larger forces may be at work.
Yeah, this is a tough call.
Is the written word intrinsically worthwhile? Or if not, what is worthwhile about it, and is that worth being preserved in the ever-more-available audio and video delivery systems for information...
Viva phallogocentrism!
My elementary teachers were scandalized when I took to carrying Twain's "Letters From the Earth" about, and refused to comment upon it. I never knew quite why.
I have a friend who is a philosophy professor. He tells me it "hurts his brain" when he's grading their papers because they are so badly written.
the unnovels being promoted as TV shows are excellent examples of this new media.
In what sense are these shows (and which ones are you referring to?) "unnovels"?
DWD, rors, I blame the marketers of books especially. They have a product to sell and use many methods. I accepted the job of teaching jr. high Sunday School about 10 years ago, and promptly had to fend off salesmen of 'appropriate age level lit' consisting of comic books. I used the strange and highly suspect method of letting the kids read the bible. Honestly, some the salesmen started pressuring the preacher to remove me. (he was a Yale grad, tho't it hilarious).
fie on the fucking sentence, "What we are on the cusp of is might change."
Try this instead, "What we are the cusp of, is mighty change."
But it works both ways. The chap who produced The Day the Universe Changed and Connections made my head hurt during a lecture he gave from trying to keep up.
I accepted the job of teaching jr. high Sunday School about 10 years ago, and promptly had to fend off salesmen of 'appropriate age level lit' consisting of comic books.
I have used "Watchmen" to teach writing in the past...
'Mamber "Illustrated Classics" Comic Books?
I have a friend who is a philosophy professor. He tells me it "hurts his brain" when he's grading their papers because they are so badly written.
Over the past 15 year, the quality of writing has actually improved at my college. But it is still a cross one must bear. Reading 30 earnestly wrought essays on whatever topic can drive one to drink.
"Conservatives don't really like books. They contain dangerous ideas.
They burn them."
Not just books. Conservatives burn documents too, like our Constitution, for example. One has to wonder why, exactly, they are known as conservatives, since they conserve nothing.
Oh, thats right, they LOVE to conserve YOUR money. Nevermind.
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Reading 30 earnestly wrought essays on whatever topic can drive one to drink.
Not just that, either.
The unnovel - as I understand it - is a story that is predicated not on linear events so much as on one event with back stories of the participants.
If we use this definition then LOST and its ilk become this - by definition. It is not so much the events occurring but the previous events that are important.
It is like the story is hypertexted. (and I actually liked it when it was first on and have not watched it for two years now) But you click on a character and get an entire subset of storyline.
That is my gut-feeling about where we are going. The story can then be as simple as we would like or complex as we would like.
The problem will be that it will not be same linear representation of our world as we are accustomed to . . . .
Reading 30 earnestly wrought essays on whatever topic can drive one to drink.
spinoza Neque lugere, neque in | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:23 am | #
Oy. This is one reason I never assign "a" topic. The deeper reason is that students should feel free to, and be pressed to, generate their own topics. But a close second is that reading that many bad essays about the same damn thing would make me shoot myself in the head.
I have a friend who is a philosophy professor. He tells me it "hurts his brain" when he's grading their papers because they are so badly written.
CJD>T | 02.24.07 - 8:19 am
My sister was an assistant to her English prof a few years ago-at a CC in LA county. She was appalled at the grammar and lack of writing skills.
He also found himself having to explain to a student that he could not write a paper about how America is Judeo-Christian nation for a class on ethics.
The problem will be that it will not be same linear representation of our world as we are accustomed to . . . .
DWD | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:25 am | #
And then of course the question becomes: Is it really a problem that it will not be the same linear representation of our world as we are accustomed to?
Actually, the premise here seems flawed, too. I rather doubt that "we are accustomed to" a linear representation anymore, anyway.
Burroughs saw it coming decades ago, and performed it with his cut-up technique.
And now that very technique is pretty much the M.O. of every outlet from which we get our information...
So this "linear representation" might well be rather a pastoral phantasm...
I once has a wondrous English prof at a community
college in Phoenix. The class ran the gamut of types, quite literally. The woman could coax nearly anyone into reading something excitedly.
It was astonishing!
'I have used "Watchmen" to teach writing in the past...
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot '
If they had had some quality, maybe I could see it. Try looking at a Tower of Babel falling on lots of scantily clad screaming Daisy Maes, if you can imagine.
Ruth - you have mail, and a follow-up post on the VA.
I once has a wondrous English prof at a community
college in Phoenix. The class ran the gamut of types, quite literally. The woman could coax nearly anyone into reading something excitedly.
It was astonishing!
plantsman, lowercase | 02.24.07 - 8:31 am | #
That's the sort of teacher I aspire to be...
I did once have a student freely choose to read and write an essay on Hesse's "Glass-Bead Game," which was a proud moment...
rorschach,
Agreed.
Well, the family is still sleeping and the hawk is blowing up pretty good outside. I think I will climb back in for a bit of Saturday morning shut-eye. It is an interesting subject and I have a lot more to say about it as my brain has been kind of stuck on this for about six months.
What is coming next? And what can a linear writer do?
'I have used "Watchmen" to teach writing in the past...
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot '
If they had had some quality, maybe I could see it. Try looking at a Tower of Babel falling on lots of scantily clad screaming Daisy Maes, if you can imagine.
Ruth | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:32 am | #
Yeah, that's a whole 'nother thing.
someone actually captured K-Lo's fantasy on film.
I think I will climb back in for a bit of Saturday morning shut-eye.
Sleep well, DWD. And dream linear dreams!
Traversing Memento is not always desired. A linear ride can be quite stirring.
Thanks, Barndog - as mentioned in the post, I have a friend at work who's experienced the runaround you did, thru her husband in the service. Which is why she is working altho she should not be, she's physically unable to do what she needs to. They finally got a successful judgment to give her husband 60% disability, but need 100%. And she credits her excellent lawyer, who actually is also a really nice fella whom I know, too.
Okay. Now, for the morning, do we prefer homemade baking powder biscuits plain or herbed? Pancakes, waffles or toast?
Also, there's maple syrup, raspberry jam or cherry conserve.
Speak up.
DWD - Don't forget that teachers are no longer allowed to teach just any old book. With the standardizaiton of curriculum kids are locked into reading only fifth grade books in the fifth grade. Perhaps they can go into sixth.
In NYC each teacher teaches the same lesson on the same day in each grade. This bright idea came about because there are so many transient students who will be shuffled from school to school, two or three times a year.
I beg to differ with the notion that things are just changing so darn much the kids will have a whole shiny new way of perception, primarily because there's writing, and then there's writing.
Hemmingway, Orwell, Shakespeare, Clarke, Bradbury, Hesse, Nabokov, Perelman, Singer, O'Connor, Leonard, Runyon, O'Henry, De Maupessant, Heller, Roth, Wolfe, Thompson, Kerouac.
These people wrote.
Their words are not going anywhere, ever.
"Verily, all this shall pass away before my words pass away"
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Okay. Now, for the morning, do we prefer homemade baking powder biscuits plain or herbed? Pancakes, waffles or toast?
Also, there's maple syrup, raspberry jam or cherry conserve.
Speak up.
GWPDA, yclept Failed Scholar | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:39 am | #
Herbed biscuits! And waffles with maple syrup!
I find comments such as these to be very sweet, but also cruel.
(He had 3 Boca meatless links and malted-barley farina with a dollop of SmartBalance buttery spread earlier.) But thanks!
In NYC each teacher teaches the same lesson on the same day in each grade. This bright idea came about because there are so many transient students who will be shuffled from school to school, two or three times a year.
ql in ny | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:40 am | #
All Children Left Behind.
A new wave of anti-moderate backlash among Democratic activists illustrates how the party's takeover of Congress has energized and emboldened the liberal base, ratcheting up the pressure on moderates such as California Rep. Ellen Tauscher.Washington Post headline
A new wave of anti-moderate backlash.... Huh?
There are also Swedish pancakes available, with lingonberries and unsalted butter.
For the others, there is a nice bit of Havarti (1/2 fat), grapes, cantaloupe and honey.
"Who is here that I can suck?"
- John McCain
Okay. Now, for the morning, do we prefer homemade baking powder biscuits plain or herbed? Pancakes, waffles or toast?
Also, there's maple syrup, raspberry jam or cherry conserve.
Speak up.
GWPDA, yclept Failed Scholar | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:39 am
Herbed, weith Raspberry jam, please!
' Now, for the morning, do we prefer homemade baking powder biscuits plain or herbed? Pancakes, waffles or toast?'
We decided on curry, thanks.
I made the wife and boy Trader Joe's Chocolate Chocolate Chip pancakes with raspberry syrup this morning. Mmmm nutricionally questionable foods.
swedish waffles with lingenberry jam and butter is a big childhood memory from me. My dad is from the old country.
We should take GWPDA's breakfast upstairs.
There are clouds in my coffee
I made the wife and boy Trader Joe's Chocolate Chocolate Chip pancakes with raspberry syrup this morning. Mmmm nutricionally questionable foods.
trifecta | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:43 am | #
But you saved me from a broom-pokin', so all is well.
Pundits keep waving the "liberal-activist wing" of the Democratic Party Black Flag about to get attention. Sheesh!
Biscuits, flapjacks, sausage, toast, scrambled, oj, and coffee please.
I'm fucking starving here.
Been off my feed since they stole our elections and shredded our Constitution.
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A new wave of anti-moderate backlash among Democratic activists
is this our "now watch this drive" moment?
or is it our "i call you my base?" moment?
i can never be sure
3rd try. enjoying sheets.
There are clouds in my coffee
What - Hill's Bros?
quite nice video. rootsy. lots of feeling.
'declarative folk'
Owls on flying open shetly goodness!
In NYC each teacher teaches the same lesson on the same day in each grade. This bright idea came about because there are so many transient students who will be shuffled from school to school, two or three times a year.
ql in ny | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 8:40 am | #
In the land of the Free we chew in unison.
One, two, three swallow.
the "liberal-activist wing" of the Democratic Party
..i would run with it - like..."we democrats want forced abortions and we want hollywood to take over our children's education"
i would play to the bullshit lies they are trying to make up - only way to make stupid people realize that there is bullshit going on here
Wow, we've been around since 1963 and here on Eschaton for six years but we're a whole brand new wave. Groovy!
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