I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Holy Crap Atrios!!
Plan Z
Good morning...
more friedmans!!!!
These boobs are going to "4-6 months" us into infinity.
Plan B?
From Outer Space?
.66 to 1.0 Friedman units later and....
WoooooooooHooooooo!!!
"....and then, develop some plan B proposals"
And then?????!!!!????
always plan for the fuckups that result when your plan takes a dump after it has become obvious to even the most obtuse individual that you have cocked it all up..........lather, rinse, repeat, Bushco and the neocons got their war on using advise they took from a freaking shampoo bottle.
My head hurts now.
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Plan B is still only available via prescripion.
So far, no doctors have written one.
Fiddle-Dee-Dee, Ashley; I hates me some partitions!
Plan B?
From Outer Space?
That's Plan 9 silly. We're wayyyyy past Plan 9. We're on like Plan Eleventeen.
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I though that the GOP was opposed to Plan B prophylactics!
Plan B = Plan Bullshit.
Which is what Plan A is.
John Roberts: Even some fierce critics of the war feel its far too early, that the troop increase should at least be given a chance.
Name them.
Michael O'Hanlon: It seems to me the logical thing is to wait 4 to 6 months, and use that 4 to 6 months to evaluate that surge, and then to develop some plan B proposals.
Why. Was the previous 4 years not enough for you?
That's Plan 9 silly. We're wayyyyy past Plan 9. We're on like Plan Eleventeen.
"Can I get some glitter? I always wore glitter when I headlined in Paris."
Wait, aren't you supposed to develop Plan B first?
Of course "leaving" is not plan B, C, D, or any of the next 15 letters.
It's just too crazy and liberal to consider.
Plan B involves sending the super-secret herd of unicorns against the insurgents.
They've been training them in Idaho.
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Maybe we can impeach the media. I thought that after Colbert they could be shamed into doing their job, but clearly they cannot. Weren't Plans B-R already failures?
I think we should attack with the insurgents with unicorns.
"Why. Was the previous 4 years not enough for you?"
--Snow
Sorry, they're stuck in the movie "Groundhog Day." They don't know any better.
Jenna takes Plan B every Saturyday morning.
Simple questions that need to be repeatedly asked:
If the Brits are leaving Basra, why aren't they part of the Baghdad Surge?
Cheney was asked that and ducked the question Roadmaster.
Wait, aren't you supposed to develop Plan B first?
NTodd, One-eyed Jack Rabbit | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 9:28 am | #
Quit being all stalker-iffic!
Of course "leaving" is not plan B, C, D, or any of the next 15 letters.
It's just too crazy and liberal to consider.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
Thus the Conservapedia hatred of things British.
Wondering if Cheney can lean on PM Howard hard enough the last few days to keep him from announcing a withdrawal before elections.
Plan B: Only return soldiers who's last name beigins with a letter from A-M. We'll need 4 -6 months to try that plan and give it a chance to work.
Then go to Plan C
Plan B: If the oil stain don't work, we go for the gasoline spill.
John Roberts: Even some fierce critics of the war feel it's far too early, that the troop increase should at least be given a chance.
names please
That's Plan 9 silly. We're wayyyyy past Plan 9. We're on like Plan Eleventeen.
Is that the one where we all go into mine shafts with a 17:1 female to male ratio?
Plan 9 from Outer Space
"...that the troop increase should at least be given a chance."
cue the music:
"Just one more chance
To prove it's you alone I care for
Each night I say a little prayer for
Just one more chance
Just one more night
To taste the kisses that enchant me
I'd want no others if you'd grant me
Just one more chance
I've learned the meaning of repentance
Now you're the jury at my trial
I know that I should serve my sentence
Still, I'm hoping all the while
You'll give me"
Jesus Christ. Plan B?!
yup 4 to 6 more months of illegal, immoral war and loss of of innocent lives like theirs:
Two Iraqi Children Killed in Baghdad Clash: U.S.
Shame on CNN!!
The Bible actually prophecized that the attack of the unicorns against the terrorists in Iraq would signal the
advent of the End of Days.
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Quit being all stalker-iffic!
Hey, give me 4-6 months to see if stalking gets me blogrolled. Then we'll come up with a Plan B.
Irish coffee for Snow
This is plan B? Give me a break! This is Bush's plan "Y" because the previous 24 other plans have failed. Why wait and see? How many more of our Marines and soldiers have to die while we 'wait and see' if this plan works?
Its going to be bad when this thing really fails, and families realize they've lost their loved ones for nothing.
And the latest decoded message from Al Queada? Apparently it's ,"All Ur Base Are Belong to US"
See, it's a pun because Ur is a city in ancient Babylon and US is...oh, I don't know why I even try, I should just leave this sort of thing to Merkin.
Wait 4-6 months, and then develop Plan B?
Doesn't sound very sensible to me.
Oh wait, we're talking about the current administration.
Never mind.
Is that the one where we all go into mine shafts with a 17:1 female to male ratio?
Why was this not Plan 1? I would have gone along with that plan.
The implication is that O'Hanlon is one such fierce critics.
O'Hanlon has been a critic, but in the "yes they've fucked everything up but let's give them a few more months to fuck things up some more at which point the only thing prudent would be to give them another few more months to do same. Oh, and if only they'd listen to ME"
Well the dedicated soul (I suspect it may be Dad himself) who keeps the Freidman Unit entry updated at Wikipedia will have to add Michael O'Hanlon now.
If that doesn't work, lets simultaneously rub our tummies and pat our heads, then twirl around, and yell yahtzee.
Is that the one where we all go into mine shafts with a 17:1 female to male ratio?
Why was this not Plan 1? I would have gone along with that plan.
Snow
With Bush running this plan, all the women would have looked like K-Lo.
Well, since we're clearly not committed to providing
government-financed rehabilitation to our maimed veterans, the number is immaterial...
Plan 9:
"The Preznit stopped and smelled a flower"
Another simple question that needs to be asked repeatedly:
If this is the "A" plan, does that mean we just lost 3,100 troops, $500 billion, and God knows how many innocent Iraqis over SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT PLANNED?!?!
John Roberts: Even some fierce critics of the war feel it's far too early
i don't accept the initial premise
Hey, give me 4-6 months to see if stalking gets me blogrolled. Then we'll come up with a Plan B.
NTodd, Stalker | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 9:32 am | #
Ah, cagey.
It's as though Cheney had shot you in the face with his tactical genius!
John Roberts: Even some fierce critics of the war feel it's far too early, that the troop increase should at least be given a chance.
This debate has descended into playground territory...........It's like were at the intersection of "tag-no take backs Avenue" and "Do-over Lane".
Wow!
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Irish coffee for Snow
MMmmmmm. Delicious. Thank you.
this argument to me is like the religion argument:
there is this acceptance that the iraqis cannot take care of themselves...that is the a priori thought....starting from there, is where these idiots get their points: well WE will need to re-evaluate at that time...
the thing 'they' are scared of is iran taking over iraq - it is our fault because we created the power-vacuum in iraq...and as such we have no choice (since we hate iran)
Is that the one where we all go into mine shafts with a 17:1 female to male ratio?
The surviving males must have been patriots in the war. They will only be able to prove it by revealing their pro-America blogging handle and having the designated orange cheese stains under their fingernails.
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Paraphrasing Jon Stewart, everybody deserves a seventh chance.
They should start naming the plans after letters in the Greek alphabet - kinda like Nat'l Weather Service does when it runs out of names for hurricanes.
Plan 9:
"The Preznit stopped and smelled a flower"
"Now call Cheney a cocksucker."
all the women would have looked like K-Lo.
[insert truly disgusting, sexist comment here]
Isn't Plan B the stuff you take if the condom breaks?
Alert the incog entity!
I believe that Plan B involves using a unicorn cavalry unit in battle.
You know the media is sucking like an f5 tornado when it gets us ALL to step up to support a Joe Biden proposal.
Here we go with the 4 to 6 months again. Tellya what, let's arrest Cheney and Bush today, then in 4 to 6 months we'll get around to figuring out how to fill out their paperwork.
Questions of faith, some people say, reports are yadyaydaydaydayada.
After all this time it's still all about what someone else professes to believe in. It's none of your fucking business what anyone professes to believe in. Give us our rights, pay us what we earned, protect our media, use your goddamn brains to conduct diplomacy and secure cooperation, and shut the fuck up already or we'll impeach you, jail you, and hire another goddam servant who will follow our orders.
Sheesh.
Torquemada looks like Mother Theresa next to these schmucks.
=*=
I find your lack of faith refreshing.
I think I should get on to making Breakies for auntie GWPDA, and me self. and then maybe put a nap on the schedule.
l8r
all the women would have looked like K-Lo.
[insert truly disgusting, sexist comment here]
Snow |
In case of mine flooding, go find Katherine Harris for the floatation devices.
I believe that Plan B involves using a unicorn cavalry unit in battle.
Armed with depleted uranium-tipped wands!
lather, rinse, repeat,
No, no, you've got it all wrong - it's blather, raze, repeat.
Planning is SO pre-Noachian. We must have faith in our new profits (sic) of God, Bush and Cheney.
How about not only eliminating tax breaks for the wealthy, but increasing their taxes...then draft everyone in the top 10% tax bracket and ship their sorry asses over to Iraq (they can afford to buy their own equipment). If, after that, things don't work out too well we can...let's see...watch the situation for another 4 to 6 months. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Making the rounds via e-mail
Bubba and Junior, supervising the
reconstruction of the New Orleans levees, were standing at the base of a flagpole, looking up.
A woman walked by and asked what they were doing. "We're supposed to find the height of the flagpole," said
Bubba, "but we don't have a ladder."
The woman took a wrench from her purse, loosened a few bolts, and
Laid the pole down. Then she took a tape measure from her pocket, took
a measurement, announced, "Eighteen feet, six inches," and walked
away.
Junior shook his head and laughed. "Ain't that just like a woman! We ask for the height and she gives us the length!"
all the women would have looked like K-Lo.
[insert truly disgusting, sexist comment here]
Snow |
Dammmmm... haloscam ate my comment on mine flooding, floatation devices and Katherine Harris.
Maybe The Simpsons had the right idea.
"We must move forward, not backward, upward, not forward, and twirling, always twirling toward freedom."
John Roberts spews this crap?
Looks like he's the new Mary Cheney.
Looks like haloscan is acting up again this morning, but I suppose even its fiercest critics agree that we should give it another 4-6 months.
Plan B?
I despise O'Hanlon, and I don't agree with his comment. But could you just spell out the point here? Is it that we're already on Plan Z? Is it that the very idea of a further plan other than withdrawal is idiotic?
Personally I'm inclined to think progressives should think about Plan B - not in four months when the idiot O'Hanlon pretends we should think about it, which in reality means he'll just back whatever Plan B the admin floats before us - but now, since the Plan is going to fail. Even withdrawal does not direct itself - there are different ways of withdrawing, and it's worth choosing. I think if progressives get ahead of the conversation and talk about what happens when Bush's plan fails, there's a chance of directing that part of the conversation a little more. Am I wrong here?
I think I should get on to making Breakies for auntie GWPDA, and me self. and then maybe put a nap on the schedule.
'Enkew, but I was already preparing Plan B - green chile stew with a new potato!
Because I really wasn't ready to wait around for 4-6 months on the off chance of something else showing up....
Haven't you heard? The Taliban are back! I saw it on HuffPo! (But I couldn't be sure which one was Cheney under all the scarves...)
If they're getting bloody, we have to get bloodier, right??
Britain sending Prince Harry to Iraq
What a noble undertaking! This is leadership by example. Would that the members of our ruling class had such courage. They, of course, have "other priorities."
Funny how war critics are always fierce or passionate.
But war pimps are just kinda mellow and wise.
Like Jesus - only wallowing in gore.
Gimlet | 02.24.07 - 9:44 am | #
There were these two fellars standin' on a bridge, a-goin' to the bathroom. One fellar said, "The water's cold" and the other fellar said, "The water's deep". I believe one fella come from Arkansas. Get it?
It's class warfare, and the working class is losing (a family of four!? On under 10K?!?):
The percentage of poor Americans who are living in severe poverty has reached a 32-year high, millions of working Americans are falling closer to the poverty line and the gulf between the nation's "haves" and "have-nots" continues to widen.
A McClatchy Newspapers analysis of 2005 census figures, the latest available, found that nearly 16 million Americans are living in deep or severe poverty. A family of four with two children and an annual income of less than $9,903 - half the federal poverty line - was considered severely poor in 2005. So were individuals who made less than $5,080 a year.
The McClatchy analysis found that the number of severely poor Americans grew by 26 percent from 2000 to 2005.
I believe one fella come from Arkansas. Get it?
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot - 9:51 am
Where was the bridge?
"We must move forward, not backward, upward, not forward, and twirling, always twirling toward freedom."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Feh.
Not John Roberts first plug for Shrubco -he frequently adds editorial comments showing his gooper bias
think how he must feel rejected by the networks
Britain sending Prince Harry to Iraq
What a noble undertaking! This is leadership by example. Would that the members of our ruling class had such courage. They, of course, have "other priorities."
Lime Rickey | 02.24.07 - 9:51 am | #
I'm wondering why William is not going? Since he is the heir, he should be exhibiting his leadership. Harry's gonna make his big brother look bad.
Must've been a low-water bridge.
Pico-de-Gallo
6 Tomatoes
1 ½ Onion
1 ½ Bunches of Cilantro
2 Fresh Jalapeños
3 Canned Jalapeños (La Costena)
3oz Juice from the Canned Jalapeños
3 Fresh Lemons or 3oz Lemon Juice
Salt to Taste
Directions
1. Chop Tomatoes in to ¼ inch pieces
2. Finely Chop Onions
3. Trim Stems from Cilantro and chop
4. Chop both types of Jalapeños
5. Combine chopped ingredients with the juices of the Lemon and the Jalapeños and mix together adding salt to taste
The McClatchy analysis found that the number of severely poor Americans grew by 26 percent from 2000 to 2005.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot
I recall somebody saying something about two Americas, but he had big hair and Somebody told me he was an evil lawyer type. So I never paid it any mind.
So it's 2/3 to one whole Friedman and if the surge doesn't work, then we'll get Plan B, which is really Plan U, right?
I'm wondering why William is not going?
Not allowed, BECAUSE he's next in line for the throne.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
"It's the upper middle class Stupid"
I think we should skip toward freedom.
and before I run out to the store, I leave you with K-Lo's mystery date.
GWPDA, no Pico-de-Gallo here until the tomatoes taste like tomatoes.
More idiotopedia:
George Washington (1732-1799) was unanimously elected President of the United States of America and the Commander-in-Chief in the Revolutionary War![1] He was also a devout Christian, with his adopted daughter once stating that if you question Washington's faith you may as well question whether or not he was a patriot![2]
Washington is perhaps the person other than Jesus who declined enormous worldly power, in Washington's case by voluntarily stepping aside as the ruler of a prosperous nation. His precedent of serving only two terms was then voluntarily followed for 140 years.
I recall somebody saying something about two Americas, but he had big hair and Somebody told me he was an evil lawyer type. So I never paid it any mind.
yep, that was that feller that Tammy Faye Carlson thinks is just relentlessly negative. Doesn't he know that as long as the stock market is booming, everything's fine?
I recall somebody saying something about two Americas, but he had big hair and Somebody told me he was an evil lawyer type. So I never paid it any mind.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 02.24.07 - 9:56 am | #
Sigh.
This is the reason that, for all his flaws, I love Edwards.
No other candidate has consistently and relentlessly forced discussion of economic CLASS to the forefront of debate.
It's old-school progressive in some ways, and I love it.
and before I run out to the store, I leave you with K-Lo's mystery date.
That man has shooty things comin' out of his haid.
What in hell is a creation researcher?
Wills isn't going -now-. He only passed out of Sandhurst recently and is not eligible. Harry went directly into Sandhurst from school and has actually been in the service for something like five years.
pie - Use canned tomatoes - Contadina makes a great low-salt top of the ripeness variety that works beautifully.
Sandhurst was Churchill's alma mater.
Okay, I could waste the entire day just hittting the "random page" button over there at dear old Conservapedia. Even those entries that would seem to be uttelry innocuous, like, for example, "polyhedron":
Role-playing games often use dice in the shape of octohedrons, dodecahedrons, and icosahedrons, as well as traditional cubical dice. Tetrahedrons cannot be used as dice because they do not roll well.
hehehehe.
More idiotopedia:
Okay, this is going to provide endless hours of amusement.
(I wonder if Clinton's entry will mention the you-know-what.)
What in hell is a creation researcher?
Somebody who speculates and theorizes and never tests anything. It's a good gig--I'm applying for a position myself.
And since I have big hair as well (although I'm not an evil lawyer type), I'm off to a good-old-fashioned barber.
Later, all. Maybe catch you during the blizzard tonight.
Somebody who speculates and theorizes and never tests anything. It's a good gig--I'm applying for a position myself.
NTodd, Stalker
I don't think I could handle any more time in school. Could I just play one on TV?
John Roberts: Even some fierce critics of the war feel it's far too early, that the troop increase should at least be given a chance.
Translation: Give war (profiteering) a chance!
Tetrahedrons cannot be used as dice because they do not roll well.
Well that's a load o' crap, b/c 4-sided dice are used all the time in AD&D.
Capirotada (Bread Pudding)
Syrup
3 ¾ cups brown sugar
4 ½ cups water
2 – 3" cinnamon sticks
3 whole cloves
6 tablespoons butter
18-20 pieces of bread toasted or stale
1 ½ cups grated cheese
4 cups raisins
2 cups assorted nuts (peanuts,walnuts)
Directions
1. Boil sugar and water together w/cinnamon and cloves until it is syrup, about 20 minutes.
2. Stir in butter and simmer.
3. Cube bread and line bottom of buttered pan.
4. Add layers of cheese, raisins,nuts.
5. Repeat until ingredients are gone.
6. Remove cinnamon sticks and cloves from syrup and pour mixture over pan
7. Bake at 350 for 30-40 minutes
Use canned tomatoes
Yeah, I know. Better than nothing, but it's not the same.
We can clone cows, but we can't get a good-tasting tomato off-season.
Fucking Brookings. People still call it "liberal." We need a leftwing foreign policy thinktank; I suppose the Open Society is something like that but I don't see people from there on TV very often.
Washington is perhaps the person other than Jesus who declined enormous worldly power
Roman soldier shouting to Jesus on the cross: "Whaddaya think of your worldly power now, Jewboy?"
Where I am right now: 70 degrees.
Where I plan to move in a few months: 23 degrees.
Not sure how I feel about all this.
Maybe catch you during the blizzard tonight.
Blizzard?
Winter's over, isn't it?
Tetrahedrons cannot be used as dice because they do not roll well.
[throws down 4d, rolls a 1]
If you want to make your hangover worse, read Althouse's op-ed in the Times. I couldn't understand it but I know I hated it.
I like the "give it a chance" meme.
It's like a little baby theory to help a little baby democracy that needs to be petted and fed and watered to thrive.
Where I plan to move in a few months: 23 degrees.
Where's that?
Follow the money.
What in hell is a creation researcher?
Somebody who speculates and theorizes and never tests anything. It's a good gig--I'm applying for a position myself.
Oh, so like a professional bullshiter.
Where I am right now: 70 degrees.
Where I plan to move in a few months: 23 degrees.
Not sure how I feel about all this.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot
Contemplate August
(I wonder if Clinton's entry will mention the you-know-what.)
pie |
Alas, it appears that Merika hating librul vandals have already gotten to Big Dog's entry:
Bill Clinton managed to serve two terms without botching the prosecution of two wars, manipulating intelligence, engaging in a systematic program of torture, or mishandling the federal response to flooding of a major American city. Obviously, he is the devil incarnate.
Where I plan to move in a few months: 23 degrees.
Where's that?
Follow the money.
pie | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:05 am | #
Oh, you know.
Wisconsin.
Oh, so like a professional bullshiter.
Or an A-list blogger.
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales met with Southern Baptist leaders Feb. 20 to unveil a new Department of Justice initiative aimed at educating Americans about their religious liberties and to ask for the Southern Baptist Convention’s help in identifying and reporting abuses of those liberties.
1. Religious Liberty No. 1 - You have the right to hate gays.
From the idiopeadia entry on Bill Clinton, a fairly obvious edit:
Bill Clinton managed to serve two terms without botching the prosecution of two wars, manipulating intelligence, engaging in a systematic program of torture, or mishandling the federal response to flooding of a major American city. Obviously, he is the devil incarnate. Clinton also attempted to use the American military to kill Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, an action which was properly seen as a mere attempt to distract the nation from the Monica Lewisnky scandal.
Contemplate August
Feldman | 02.24.07 - 10:05 am | #
That's the key. Hell, we should just move ASAP after this semester ends, and avoid Austin's summer as best we can...
Morning Bats.
Wisconsin.
Madison?
Yeah, Clinton was a brilliant, only semi-corrupt moderate Republican.
morning Tena, you Seattlite you.
Yes, but there are some fierce critics who say we shouldn't wait another second. Why don't they have a blown-dry CNN spokes-model representing them?
=-
Wisconsin.
Madison?
pie | Homepage
Not necessarily. But a stone's throw.
And: Mornin' Tena!
Oh, and in the portion of the remarkably short entry on Clinton that has not been vandalized by Dirty Fucking Hippies, what are they most upset about?
Clinton also signed into law the Violence Against Women Act, which opened the federal courts to claims of domestic disputes between men and women, which had always been handled under state rather than federal law. A key provision of this law was later ruled unconstitutional in United States v. Morrison.[1]
Is Ted behind this?
Morning, Tena!
From the idiopeadia entry on Bill Clinton, a fairly obvious edit:
HAHAHAHAHA!!
morning Tena, you Seattlite you.
trifecta
It's very Seattle-y here today. It's wet and foggy down her in Gig Harbor.
Yes, but there are some fierce critics who say we shouldn't wait another second.
Haloscan says we must wait 20 seconds between plans (another -72 seconds).
Jennifer owes me a coke.
But all I wanted was a pepsi, just one pepsi.
down here
Gonzalez:
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
What a fucking dolt.
43F in the Valle del Sol, with a windchill factor of ... 43F.
.
Plan A:
Tsar Re-doubles Effort to Win WWI
Plan B:
Tsar Institutes Reforms
Plan C:
Revolution
Haloscan says we must wait 20 seconds between plans (another -72 seconds).
NTodd,
the heating/Ac in this room has a note on it to wait 3 minutes before changing from hot to cold or vice versa. my granddaughter managed to "fix" that - the AC won't come on and believe or not, I need the AC at night, even if I open the window.
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
Oy.
the bigger issue and question to think about is what condition we want to leave Iraq in when we finally pull the troops out and how best to achive that goal. What I'm reading here sounds like alot of talking points with no vision.
Food for thought....
If Plan B doesn't work, they should try RU-486.
Tena, is she growing like a weed? Did she like her presents?
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
Who said this? Link? I sense a chuckle coming on.
Gonzalez:
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
What a fucking dolt.
CJD>T
I almost hate him more than I do CooCoo and Big Time put together.
I can't tell you the depths of my contempt for Gonzales.
ISrael is preparing to launch an air strike against nuclear and other military targets within Iran.
They asked for permission to cross air space of several countries.
Morning, bats.
Food for thought....
I hope you choke on it.
the bigger issue and question to think about is what condition we want to leave Iraq in when we finally pull the troops out and how best to achive that goal. What I'm reading here sounds like alot of talking points with no vision.
Food for thought....
texaschilibean | 02.24.07 - 10:12 am | #
If that is what passes for "food for thought" these days, then color me bulimic.
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
Tiger is God. What's the big deal?
Link: http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/b...ws.asp?
ID=25012
Curiously brief: the entry on
Osama Bin Laden is the leader of al Qaeda, a worldwide Muslim terrorist group thought to be responsible for 9-11 and other terrorist attacks on Americans in the 1990s. He was protected by the Taliban until the American invasion of Afghanistan after 9-11 drove him into hiding.
That's all.
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’
God would win every tournament, not just 3 out of 5.
Cuckoo Bananas has managed to find the most idiotic and corrupt Latinos in the country.
Maybe it's the other way round and they managed to find him.
They almost make me ashamed.
thought to be responsible for 9-11
Thought to be responsible?
heh heh.
I agree about Gonzo. My order of loathsome:
1. Cheney
2. Bush
3. Gonzo
4. Condi
Whom I missing?
HoneyBearKelly - he certainly managed to find the single most corrupt goddamned Latino lawyer in the country.
'
I'm ashamed of my profession for letting him into it.
Whom I missing?
Rover.
sdf (Stu),
They don't *want* to think about Osama bin Laden. All they can do is suck on their magic bullet of a surge. I just hope it gets them to January 09, when they can go back to writing hate mail and sending anthrax letters.
Gonzalez:
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
If he builds an altar to Tiger in his office and begins taking Masters week off as a religious holiday he may start running into trouble.
Contemplate August
Feldman
From a distance. Like, say, January...
Everytime I hear one of these fuckwits say we ought to give General Pretaeus a chance, what's wrong with that, I want to scream, what's wrong with that is that we're losing THREE SOLDIERS A DAY. NINETY A MONTH, 540 IN SIX MONTHS, motherfuckers.
Morning Miss Molly - how is everyone up on Liberal Mountain? Getting better since this last go round? How's your throat?
John Howard buys Cheney's spin.
What kind of endorsement deals does God get?
I named my cat Tiger
Rover.
pie
Oh, right. He's a strong third.
They don't *want* to think about Osama bin Laden.
Molly
Well, that's exactly it, of course.
I agree about Gonzo. My order of loathsome:
1. Cheney
2. Bush
3. Gonzo
4. Condi
Whom I missing?
david mizner
This could become a thread buster
Fucking Brookings.
Think tank is both an oxymoron and a misnomer. They should call them groupthink tanks, spin tanks, or propaganda vats.
Gonzalez:
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
The real question: "Why should it be permissible for someone so fucking stone-dumb to occupy such an important governmental position?"
Tena if any lawyers that are senators voted for Abu to become AG they should have their ABA membership revoked.
Tena,
We're all mostly better, but we blew our whole vacation.
Oh well. Thanks for asking.
What I'm reading here sounds like alot of talking points with no vision.
We do not converse in talking points.
The "condition we leave Iraq in" is not up to the US military or the US government.
The "condition we leave Iraq in" is as you see now.
I'll rank mine:
Rove
Gonzales
CooCoo
Big Time
Condi
the bigger issue and question to think about is what condition we want to leave Iraq in when we finally pull the troops out and how best to achive that goal. What I'm reading here sounds like alot of talking points with no vision.
Food for thought....
The condition Iraq will be in when we leave? A fucking mess, unless we put in a minimum of 350,000 more troops and something on the order of one or two trillion dollars.
You think it's worth it, buttboy?
Of course, we could send in fewer additional troops and only spend another half trillion dollars, and the end result will be...a fucking mess, except the half trillion was flushed down the crapper.
Yeah, great plan.
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?”"
How 'bout the employer don't 'llow no proselytizing 'round here? He's not Congress, and has made no law, so sharrap you face...
I can't tell you the depths of my contempt for Gonzales.
I agree. He's a horrifying disaster.
Tena,
We're all mostly better, but we blew our whole vacation.
O Molly - I am so so sorry. I'm glad you're better.
cnn: cheney:all options open for iran
German yahoo:Israeli air strike
What kind of endorsement deals does God get?
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:18 am | #
Well, in just the past few years, he's gone from crazy churches to crazy MegaChurches, so he's gotta be raking it in.
Wow, Tena, Cheney only fourth. Interesting.
rors,
You'll love Wisconsin. Russ Feingold will be your senator, and you can wear a cheesehead hat.
God would win every tournament, not just 3 out of 5.
Lime Rickey
It's not as though I have time to get out on the practice tees.
Who would've thought that Ashcroft would be no better than his successor?
People think all their rights follow them into the workplace.
They do not.
Loathsome.
Should be fitted for matching jumpsuits.
Cuckoo
Darth
Abu
Condi
Viceroy Bremer
rors,
You'll love Wisconsin. Russ Feingold will be your senator, and you can wear a cheesehead hat.
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:21 am | #
I'll move for the Feingold, but I'll stay for the cheesehat.
I have actually always rather liked the Packers...
Somehow I wouldn't mind if the dude in the next cubicle were praying to Tiger Woods, or Jesus.
1. Cheney
2. Bush
3. Gonzo
4. Condi
Whom I missing?
Atrios, history's greatest monster.
I can't tell you the depths of my contempt for Gonzales.
Tena
Fucker actually said on teevee that the FISA statute was very clearly structured and that was why he couldn't sign the torture memos, it had to be w. "I wasn't going to put my name on the warrants."
I have actually always rather liked the Packers...
I liked it when teams were named after union professions rather than animals.
Wow, Tena, Cheney only fourth. Interesting.
david mizner
I hate Cheney, of course, but he's so damned delusional that I almost can't hate him as much as I do the ones who are not delusional and ought to know better.
I hate Gonzales, and I bet I will learn to hate Roberts and Alito with bitter intensity - and it's probably because I'm a lawyer. They actively pervert the law, to my mind. Big Time is a crazy old fuck, but it's not like he's out there right now with a pair of pliers, torturing my profession.
Where in Wisconsin, Ror? Teaching gig?
My Much Better Half (aka Dr. Mrs. sdf's) family is from Wisconsin. If you're anywhere outside Madison and Milwaukee, be prepared for a whole lot of Bush stickers and yellow ribbon magnets.
You think it's worth it, buttboy?
One wonders what the idiots think is worth it?
rors,
Have you ever lived in the north?
I liked it when teams were named after union professions rather than animals.
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:23 am | #
Heh. My first ever favorite team was the Steelers, so I guess we share that...
And: Chief Illiniwek, RIP, you racist fuck.
I don't understand how someone like John Roberts is created. He looks fake, manufactured.
Somehow I wouldn't mind if the dude in the next cubicle were praying to Tiger Woods, or Jesus.
david mizner
So long as they do it quietly and without the scent of burned microwave popcorn.
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Atrios, history's greatest monster.
NTodd, Stalker |
Atrios is Jimmy Carter?
It seems to me the logical thing is to wait 4 to 6 months, and use that 4 to 6 months to evaluate that surge, and then start to think about forming a committee to maybe analyze some strategies to consider to form a team to to develop some plan B proposals.
rors,
Have you ever lived in the north?
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:24 am | #
Kinda never. My most northerly in the US: a few months in Boulder, CO.
I did a year at Oxford, England.
Beyond that, it's been Arkansas, New Orleans, New Mexico, Austin...
I don't understand how someone like John Roberts is created. He looks fake, manufactured.
He's extruded plastic, sure, but he's 100% post-consumer content!
thought to be responsible for 9-11
Thought to be responsible?
heh heh.
pie |
Well it wasn't listed in his FBI Top10 most wanted profile last time I looked.
Beyond that, it's been Arkansas, New Orleans, New Mexico, Austin...
I'll send you a sweater.
Oh I'm going to have a hard time being useful today, too much fun is available with the click of a finger:
Like all modern animals, modern kangaroos originated in the Middle East[1] and are the descendants of the two founding members of the modern kangaroo baramin that were taken aboard Noah's Ark prior to the Great Flood. It has not yet been determined whether kangaroos form a holobaramin with the wallaby, tree-kangaroo, wallaroo, pademelon and quokka, or if all these species are in fact apobaraminic or polybaraminic.
After the Flood, kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers migrated to Australia. There is debate whether this migration happened over land[2] -- as Australia was still for a time connected to the Middle East before the supercontinent of Pangea broke apart -- or if they rafted on mats of vegetation torn up by the receding flood waters[2].
Where in Wisconsin, Ror? Teaching gig?
My Much Better Half (aka Dr. Mrs. sdf's) family is from Wisconsin. If you're anywhere outside Madison and Milwaukee, be prepared for a whole lot of Bush stickers and yellow ribbon magnets.
sdf (Stu), several tiers below | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:24 am | #
A teaching gig, indeed.
Miriam's teaching gig. Outside Madison, yes. But the department looks very good.
I named my cat Tiger
Culture of TrÜth
Buy another one, name it Woods. Gehed, I dare ya...
I'm gonna get me a couple hamsters, name 'em Don Carter and carmen Salvino...
l be prepared for a whole lot of Bush stickers and yellow ribbon magnets.
You know, for all of Seattle's liberalness, this part of the country is a huge military area for obvious reasons, and there are a lot of pro-Coocoo bumper stickers and shit up here. I watched a DPHS boat cruise into this harbor yesterday with a goddamn gun mounted on the front of it.
There are more W stickers and yellow ribbons than I've seen in Dallas in awhile. There are a lot of anti-Bush sentiments expressed, too, but there is a lot of military sentiment up here.
Oy, not torture memos, illegal wiretapping warrants. Oy.
Feral Liberal lives between Milwaukee and Madison. And there's a lot of musicians who live around Kenosha.
Beyond that, it's been Arkansas, New Orleans, New Mexico, Austin...
I'll send you a sweater.
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:27 am | #
Thank you, Dr.
I have sweater claustrophia, though. And am naturally hot-blooded. We hiked in the Southern Alps in NZ, in August, their dead of winter, and I was in jeans and a short-sleeved shirt... I reckon it'll work out.
Miriam's teaching gig. Outside Madison, yes. But the department looks very good.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
Well a hearty congratulations is offered.
But definitely accept Molly's offer of a sweater.
I liked it when teams were named after union professions rather than animals.
And when a team is non-profit and community owned.
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We hiked in the Southern Alps in NZ, in August, their dead of winter, and I was in jeans and a short-sleeved shirt... I reckon it'll work out.
Just don't become one of those guys who gets naked and paints your body team colors for a football game.
Gonzalez:
"“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?
If you pray hard enough, does Tiger bless your balls?
In contrast to the one sentence entry on Osama bin Laden, Conservapedia offers a thorough examination of kangaroo reproduction (priorities, people):
Reproduction
Male kangaroos will go around the mob checking the females’ cloaca. Many times, males are rejected by the females because of size if they are small. In other cases, if a larger male is checking a female out, she may just move away. Sometimes, when a male is checking out a female, the female will urinate for the male, who will sniff the urine. Some studies show that this ritual is for the male to see if the female kangaroo is receptive to him or not.
If the female is responsive to the male, she raises her tail and the male will follow her. Sometimes the kangaroos will scratch each other’s tails or the male will give the female a back rub before mating. When the female is ready to mate she will arch her tail.
Female kangaroos usually only have one baby kangaroo (called a "joey") at a time. The newborn joey weigh as little as .03 ounces when first born, after which it crawls into its mothers pouch where it will nurse, grow, and develop. They spend a lot of time in their mothers pouch developing. The Red Kangaroo joey will stay in their mothers pouch for about eight months and Gray Kangaroo joeys stay in there for about a year.
Dover Bitch:
When it was discovered that the Soviet Union was delivering nuclear weapons to Cuba, President Kennedy called his closest advisors to a series of meetings. In his Executive Committee (EXCOMM) meetings, Kennedy discussed the options. If you want to hear what it sounds like when the President of the United States is considering "trading Berlin" during a "nuclear exchange" (and if you have time to download a 130MB MP3), click here. It's fairly disquieting.
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Just don't become one of those guys who gets naked and paints your body team colors for a football game.
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:31 am | #
"become"?
Kidding, of course.
I only get naked and paint my body for important things.
I propose a plan "B". Yep. That's what I said, a plan "B". But my plan "B" will be different. This time we need to increase troop strength by at least 20,000 soldiers who will "take and then hold" areas of Iraq with the support of Iraqi police forces. Those Iraqi police forces will then kill off the US forces who "took and held" those areas of Iraq which were unstable. This plan will take at least 6 months to take affect maybe longer if US troops fight back. If that happens it could take at least another 6 months to work. Please be patient. Plan "B" always works if you just wait.
I have sweater claustrophia, though. And am naturally hot-blooded. We hiked in the Southern Alps in NZ, in August, their dead of winter, and I was in jeans and a short-sleeved shirt... I reckon it'll work out.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atrio
You and I are so much alike. I am so warm natured that I do need the AC in my room at night, even though it's cold up here.
I get hot. I almost never get really cold and I really hate this.
No one wants to spend money or waste lives needlessly, but the left's utter lack of an attempt to devise a victory strategy reeks of defeatism. Has anyone on the left even done an analysis of how we might win this thing before leaving? Not that I know of.
If you want to make your hangover worse, read Althouse's op-ed in the Times. I couldn't understand it but I know I hated it.
My take.
You and I are so much alike. I am so warm natured that I do need the AC in my room at night, even though it's cold up here.
I get hot. I almost never get really cold and I really hate this.
Tena | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:33 am | #
Yeah, it always kinda freaks my in-laws in Ann Arbor out, that this guy from Arkansas doesn't need to swaddle himself to live in their harsh clime...
Sadly, the vast majority of anchors, commentators, reporters who appear on television have the intelligence of a not particularly bright Hollywood starlet. What they do have is good telepresence.
One of the excellent things about blogs is that more and more people are beginning to recognize this.
So the line on NPR yesterday was that this troop surge is really England's fault--not because they're leaving, but because they "let some areas go."
Sometimes the kangaroos will scratch each other’s tails or the male will give the female a back rub before mating. When the female is ready to mate she will arch her tail.
Who knew kangaroos were so kinky?
I suggest horizontal lists so we can hate these bastards equally.
And, yes, Tena--you and I are still, clearly, brother and sister.
Israel negotiating with U.S. to fly over Iraq to bomb Iran.
Has anyone on the left even done an analysis of how we might win this thing before leaving? Not that I know of.
Because it can't be won. Why can't you get that through that fucking rotten melon you call a head?
You already lost this war - it's lost. Coocoo fucked it all up. Blame the person who did it - not all of us who just sat here and watched while he did it.
Who knew kangaroos were so kinky?
It was the sniffing the cloaca that got me. Who do they think they are, James Joyce?
The fun continues:
In 1977, while serving as Captain on board the fishing vessel Zuiyo-maru, Kent Hovind discovered the decomposing carcass of a Plesiosaur. This was a triumphant find for the Creation-Science movement, since it unequivocally established that dinosaurs had died in the Biblical Flood, rather than being killed by a meteor, as postulated by Charles Darwin.
If a meteor had killed the dinosaurs as Charles Darwin suggested, then the plesiosaurs would have died out as well. But, because a plesiosaur was found in the oceans near Japan, the only viable alternative is that the Biblical account of the Genesis flood was true, and that (on account of Noah's human fallibility) many land based dinosaurs died while the plesiosaur lived on. This also means that the rocks of the late cretaceous period (dated to 65 million years ago by Darwinist geologists) couldn't be more than a few thousand years old.
Captain Hovind sailed back to Pensacola at full steam with his triumphant find, fully expecting a Nobel Prize and widespread acclaim for his once-in-a-lifetime discovery. Unfortunately, secularist scientists performed comparisons of the carcass amino acid profile to the amino acid profile of a basking shark, and attempted to smear Hovind's find by using the fact that the two were identical. The comparison of amino acids is by no means conclusive however, since plesiosaurs and sharks both live in water, and we should expect them to have identical amino acid profiles. Furthermore, it may also be possible that the plesiosaur and basking shark are not actually distinct species, but that the plesiosaur is just a basking shark observed in a particular life stage.
While it would be instructive to study the carcass further, the Secular Humanists at the Internal Revenue Service confiscated the remains during the arrest of Dr. Hovind, presumably to prevent further investigation in the name of creationism.
Caption to the accompanying photo, I kid you not, is "This is totally not a shark."
NTodd,
Nice take on Altmouse.
I only get naked and paint my body for important things.
Watching BSG episodes?
Blame the person who did it - not all of us who fought like hell to prevent getting into this dick-waving quagmire.
Fixed your typo.
go for it, texaschilibean. your side has devised losing strategies exclusively, for 4 years now. every new plan is a loser, because of your stupidity and incompetence. you broke it, you buy it. I had an excellent plan: Don't Do It! It was foolproof, but you fucking sociopathic children had to have your war, in spite of the rank cowardice of you and your leaders. we put our plan up at the beginning, and it was perfect, so go express your murderous, insane bullshit somewhere else.
Uh oh, I am receiving all too familiar complaints from Dr. Mrs. sdf that I get off my ass and be useful because we have a busy day ahead ...
(I'll sneak back in at some point)
I suggest horizontal lists so we can hate these bastards equally.
Perhaps a matrix.
Another U.S. attorney forced out. I'm convinced this is being done so that they can fire Fritz and say it has nothing to do with his investigation of the veep.
While it would be instructive to study the carcass further, the Secular Humanists at the Internal Revenue Service confiscated the remains during the arrest of Dr. Hovind, presumably to prevent further investigation in the name of creationism
My god they are crazier than I thought.
Yeah, the morning after pill.
that's JUST what we need for Iraq.
One huge fucking mistake, now how to avoid the consequences.....
modern kangaroo baramin that were taken aboard Noah's Ark prior to the Great Flood. It has not yet been determined whether kangaroos form a holobaramin with the wallaby, tree-kangaroo, wallaroo, pademelon and quokka, or if all these species are in fact apobaraminic or polybaraminic.
Um......what......?
On TCM now - All Quiet on the Western Front.
Followed by:
From Here to Eternity
Bridge on the River Kwai
Lawrence of Arabia
Man For All Seasons.
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The coldest I ever was was in Madison WI. My mom sent me this gawd-awful green wool full length cape lined in orange-gold fleece. It looked like something the Packers would wear on the sidelines in sub-zero weather. But it got cold enough I actually wore it outside a couple of times and was happy to have it to curl up inside indoor.
Brilliant cold up there, at least back then.
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Thanks, Vicki.
Another U.S. attorney forced out.
Yeah. Chiara here in Grand Rapids. I almost posted this here yesterday, but I got busy and had to mosey on.
She's a liberal. Very effective, too.
Peter Galbraith in the NYRoB, The Surge
... Bush's plan is laden with ironies. Four years ago, military and diplomatic professionals warned that the US was embarking on a war with insufficient troops and inadequate planning. President Bush never listened to this advice, choosing to rely on the neoconservative appointees who assured him that victory in Iraq would be easy.
In devising his new strategy, Bush again turned to the neoconservatives. The so-called surge strategy is the brainchild of Frederick Kagan, a military historian at the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute who has never been to Iraq. And once again, President Bush dismissed the views of his military advisers. General George Casey and General John Abizaid, the commanders in the field, doubted that additional troops would make any difference in Iraq. They were replaced by surge advocates, including Lieutenant General David Petraeus, now the top commander in Iraq. ...
I only get naked and paint my body for important things.
Watching BSG episodes?
NTodd, Stalker | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:38 am | #
Go Six!
No, wait, Go Three!
No, wait, Go Eight!
Who can choose?
The coldest I ever was in was Fairbanks Alaska, winter 88/89. It dropped to -90. Yes, -90.
Why in god's name would the NYT give Althouse a column? She's really there all month?
"your side has devised losing strategies ... I had an excellent plan: Don't Do It!"
As I recall, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but "your side" (i.e. the Democrats) agreed with Bush to invade! They jumped on the bandwagon in the good times, and now are trying to jump off in the bad. That's "leadership" in troubled times? I think not!
Am I the only one who thinks that Petraeus sounds like a Planet of the Apes name?
Conservapedia is really growing! Yesterday's short two-paragraph entry for homosexuality now is much longer and contains this gem:
"However, lesbianism is less evil than regular homosexuality, because no penises are involved."
http://www.conservapedia.com/Hom...m/
Homosexuality
Am I the only one who thinks that Petraeus sounds like a Planet of the Apes name?
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:43 am | #
I love you, Dr. Zaius!
but the left's utter lack of an attempt to devise a victory strategy reeks of defeatism
Win?
That is an asinine concept that is not remotely possible.
And you know this.
Defeatism?
The word is realism.
You stupid motherfucker.
Am I the only one who thinks that Petraeus sounds like a Planet of the Apes name?
Doctor Petraeus!
[exits singing Simpsons parody song...]
Good christ, don't argue with the troll. It's an old trolling name and it will react predictably.
Bridge on the River Kwai
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/...rets/case_kwai/
Construction of the Thailand-Burma Railway began on September 16, 1942 at two existing railroad terminals, one in Thanbyuzayat in Burma and the other in Nong Pladuk, Thailand, about 25 miles west of Bangkok, in the Ratchburi province. As early as 1939, the Japanese had drawn up plans to build the railway, which was to provide a supply line capable of transporting 3,000 tons of supplies per day to support their frontline troops in Burma. At that time, Japanese engineers estimated that the 257-mile line would take five years to build because of the harsh conditions and treacherous terrain. Much of the railway, particularly the roughly 175 miles of track that ran through Thailand, required high bridges (more than 600 along the entire line) and deep mountain cuttings. The railway was completed in just 16 months when the two separate lines joined 23 miles south of the Three Pagoda's Pass. But the cost was incredibly high.
Though records are sketchy, approximately 61,000 Allied prisoners of war are believed to have labored on the railway
After the Flood, kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers migrated to Australia
Bridge to Australia!
Why in god's name would the NYT give Althouse a column?
For the life of me, I can't figure that one out.
For one, the woman is not lucid...
As I recall, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but "your side" (i.e. the Democrats) agreed with Bush to invade! They jumped on the bandwagon in the good times, and now are trying to jump off in the bad. That's "leadership" in troubled times? I think not!
texaschilibean
You've been pushing this for 5 years and it's a lie now and it's been a lie all along. They voted to authorize CooCoo to do what was necessary and he promised that war would be the last resort and he lied. He didn't wait for the inspectors to finish - he told to get out or get bombed.
THIS IS THE REPUG'S WAR, and the REPUG'S FUCK UP.
End of story.
As I recall, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but "your side" (i.e. the Democrats) agreed with Bush to invade! They jumped on the bandwagon in the good times, and now are trying to jump off in the bad. That's "leadership" in troubled times? I think not!
tcb, 77 Senators voted for the AuMF, 23 did not. Voting was not, and is never, done by "sides." The aftermath of 9/11/2001 is not remembered as a "good time" by any but the twisted few, such as yourself.
But just out of curiosity, what constitutes winning?
Here's what the Dems voted for: Disarming Saddam of WMDs. Since he's dead and they never existed, shouldn't we rethink?
As I recall, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but "your side" (i.e. the Democrats) agreed with Bush to invade!
Fuck off.
The people that have been on this board since well before the invasion have been 100% against this bullshit.
Go peddle your silly fantasies elsewhere, fuckstick.
the usual lying bullshit, chilibean. the democrats voted to give a pathjological liar the authority to invade if necessary. they were lied to, as usual, and your boy broke the law and his word. he is a child of low morals, and you are a follower without an original thought. congress did not authorize war or an invasion. read some law and the constitution instead of swallowing rush's ignorant splooge, you idiot. no wonder we've lost htis war. the one in Afghanistan, and the one on "terror". only idiot rightwingers could take the world's richest, biggest military into disaster.
But just out of curiosity, what constitutes winning?
This is the question that needs to be asked over and over and over again.
Vicki,
She's one of the worst writers I've ever read. It's not just that she's dim and banal, her prose is appalling.
Am I the only one who thinks that Petraeus sounds like a Planet of the Apes name?
Dr. Molly Ivors
I keep thinking he's heading up one of Marc Antony's legions.
But Planet of the Apes works actually better - it is that kind of name.
"Evacuate?
In our moment of triumph?
I think you overestimate their chances."
Just giving Star Wars equal time.
She's one of the worst writers I've ever read. It's not just that she's dim and banal, her prose is appalling.
You just don't read her with a decent sympathy.
Also, don't you need a Declaration of War to invoke war powers? On what date did any member of Congress in either party vote for a declaration of war?
But just out of curiosity, what constitutes winning?
This is the question that needs to be asked over and over and over again.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot
No shit; What's the goal in Iraq now? First it was WMDs. Then Saddam - no WMDs, Saddam's dead.
Why the fuck are we still in Iraq?
For the war, against the war, whatever, we'll still be paying for it the rest of our lives (and our kids lives, too!)
I say let's wait 24 years and try Plans C through Z before cutting and running.
Why the fuck are we still in Iraq?
Pork Chop Halliburton is still raking in the cash.
Vicki,
She's one of the worst writers I've ever read. It's not just that she's dim and banal, her prose is appalling.
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:47 am | #
Now I want to send her a CafePress T-shirt.
Front: "I'm Dim and Banal"
Back: "But My Prose Is Appalling!"
All in flowery script.
You just don't read her with a decent sympathy.
Hey, I'm on a Jane Austen kick. Complex prose I can handle. Just not crap.
Rors, when you're in Wisconsin, can you try to run her over with a snowmobile or something?
Petraeus may be one of those weird Latinate German names for all I know. Trolls sure is stoopit, tho!
But just out of curiosity, what constitutes winning?
This is the question that needs to be asked over and over and over again.
rorschach
We know what's being lost:
we're losing THREE SOLDIERS A DAY. NINETY A MONTH, 540 IN SIX MONTHS, motherfuckers.
ql in ny
Someone had better decide pretty soon what winning is.
Also, don't you need a Declaration of War to invoke war powers? On what date did any member of Congress in either party vote for a declaration of war?
Well, there's the rub. They abdicated by giving Bush war powers. Be nice if they took that back.
Victory means not leaving Iraq in the hands of terrorists, ya damn idiots!
Gawd I'm glad you people didn't run the show in 1944!
After the Flood, kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers
Human-Animal hybrids!
Six and Eight are still in play but Three is in the box getting ready to be sent back to the factory. Annnnd...
Paula Zahn is gunning for stupidest person on the planet award for today, what is this crap about styles battling for the soul of Hip-Hop? What? Who decided that there's some sort of limit on the number of things black people can make songs about? Holy shit, they might send "MIXED MESSAGES" and demoralize those apparently easily depressed and confused troops or something. Excuse me, did you guys put up one of your vote thingies for us all to weigh in on whether we felt Toby Keith and his warmongering shit was "Art or Poison?"
The Laundrette opens in 14 minutes, Woo Hoo!
Petraeus' "plan" is expected to last ten years, although he won't admit it.
Rors, when you're in Wisconsin, can you try to run her over with a snowmobile or something?
Dr. Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 10:50 am | #
Hey, Star Wars is on. Do run her over with a snowmobile or do not run her over with a snowmobile. There is no try.
I say let's wait 24 years and try Plans C through Z before cutting and running.
That's it! It'll be just like The Cat in the Hat Comes Back! You know, the one where he leaves a pink bathtub ring and gets it all over everything until he has to let out all the little cats to clean it up! Little Cat Z will make the snow white again and shovel the walk too!
Gawd I'm glad you people didn't run the show in 1944!
Actually, if by "you people" you mean liberals and Democrats, then...we did.
Well, there's the rub. They abdicated by giving Bush war powers. Be nice if they took that back.
That's what Levin wants to do, I thought. I like that idea - revisit that damn authorization and pull the rug out from under the executive.
It's way past time, guys. Less talk, more action, please.
you stupid fuck, terrorists are there because your side sent 150,000 targets. It's a good thing we DID run the show in 1944. now you have to add history to tje list of books somebody will have to read to you, since yu have just proven yourself even more ignorant than the fuckwits losing thewe wars.
The Laundrette opens in 14 minutes, Woo Hoo!
Is it Beautiful?
"you're not qualified to be a guest on our shows unless 4 to 6 months is in your vocabulary"-cable news producers
Hey, Star Wars is on. Do run her over with a snowmobile or do not run her over with a snowmobile. There is no try.
Yoda said that in Empire, not Star Wars. Geesh.
Victory means not leaving Iraq in the hands of terrorists, ya damn idiots!
You want to see an idiot, look in the mirror.
Iraq is not and has never been "in the hands of the terrorists". Iraq is in the hands of the Shia at this point. And the Sunni are raising nine kinds of hell because of it.
Our troops are right in the middle.
And every fucking bit of it is your fault, you incredible pussy.
Gawd I'm glad you people didn't run the show in 1944!
Actually, if by "you people" you mean liberals and Democrats, then...we did.
NTodd, Stalker
Let's see, when was the last time the Repugs won a war?
1864?
Bridge to Australia!
Pangea, baby!
That's what Levin wants to do, I thought. I like that idea - revisit that damn authorization and pull the rug out from under the executive.
Yup.
Abso-Frackin'-Lutely!
Actually, if by "you people" you mean liberals and Democrats, then...we did.
**mwah!!**
No one wants to spend money or waste lives needlessly, but the left's utter lack of an attempt to devise a victory strategy reeks of defeatism. Has anyone on the left even done an analysis of how we might win this thing before leaving? Not that I know of.
texaschilibean
Try including diplomacy and political solutions in the strategy, beaner. That's something critics of your master have been pushing for years without success because of his arrogance and stupidity.
"Why the fuck are we still in Iraq?"
Oil, world domination, revenge, cock waving, profiteering. The reasons have't changed.
Where is Star Wars on?
There was no need to devise ANY strategy, you imbecile!
The coldest I ever was in was Fairbanks Alaska, winter 88/89. It dropped to -90. Yes, -90.
trifecta
Hah.
Winnipeg. Corner of Portage & Main. No device capable of measuring the temperature....
NTodd - very nice post.
Very.
NTodd- very nice post.
Great post, NTodd! Though I am technically allergic to football metaphors. Where's my Claritin?
Why doesn't The Left come up with a responsible strategy to invade Venus? Their utter contempt for national security by not providing an alternative to Bush's plan to send the 82nd Airborne into Venusian space shows that they are only interested in scoring political points instead of working in a bipartisan fashion to support our Commander in Chief.
sheets
Fuck you haloscan.
Gawd I'm glad you people didn't run the show in 1944!
We did, moron.
I'm on a Jane Austen kick
I love Jane Austen.
Gotta flip the bacon.
catelexis it was on HBO.
If you have HBO West it's on again at 11:45 est.
Also note to HBO.
George Lopez = not funny.
Poofy loafy kittyblogging here.
Plus, if you check out No Capital's banner, you'll see a brand-new Echidne endorsement!
We have moved on to the Fred G Sanford phase of the war where we try and salvage something respectable from the various piles of smoking rubble. Lieutenant General David "Lamont" Petraeus is expected to fix everything, or Bush will start referring to him as 'dummy'.
That is an estimable post, young Master Pritsky.
And the football analogy is dead on.
... The three-state solution I have outlined in my book would protect the Sunni Arabs from military annihilation —and its attendant humanitarian consequences—by giving them their own self-governing region with defined borders.[4] The alternative to promoting this kind of power-sharing arrangement is to let the civil war take its course. In late 2006, Vice President Cheney floated a trial balloon dubbed the "80 percent solution." In starkest terms, the 80 percent solution would write off reconciliation with the Sunni Arabs on the grounds that they are intractable and focus on supporting the 80 percent of Iraqis who are Shiite or Kurdish. In essence, the United States would take the Shiite side in the Sunni–Shiite civil war.
This is a plausible, if cruel, strategy. But it would not result in a democratic, unified, or stable Iraq. The common ground between Shiites and Kurds is their shared commitment to the par-tition plan embodied in the Iraqi constitution. An 80 percent solution is, in effect, a two-state solution with Kurdistan and a Shiite-dominated Arab Iraq. It becomes all the more difficult to achieve if Bush administration efforts to involve the Kurds in the civil war shatter the Shiite coalition or break up the Kurdish–Shiite alliance.
Galbraith is still hot for partition.
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Apparently the Israeli government has been taking leadership seminars from our fearless administration.
NTodd, just read your post and this:
[Update: I hear tell the WH line is that the UN authorizes our presence in Iraq, thus Bush can ignore Congress. Sorry, but that dog won't hunt. Just goes to show that every regime desperately craves the veneer of legitimate authority.]
When in hell did the UN supposedly authorize any such thing?
Petraeus is expected to fix everything, or Bush will start referring to him as 'dummy'.
Pot calling kettle.
there is this acceptance that the iraqis cannot take care of themselves
Do you really think this administration wants them to take care of themselves?
the fig leaf of resolution 1442 or whatever it was is the "UN authority" they are sighting.
Okay, the democrats were in charge in 1944, but this ain't your father's democrat party. FDR, JFK, Truman ... Pelosi, Kennedy and Kerry.
So, we shall see who provides a better plan than Bush.
...we shall see who provides a better plan than B---
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Be nice if they took that back.
NTodd, Stalker
Funny you should say that. Athenae has a pretty good rant up about it.
Obviously, these "smart" fellows mean to solve it all using "morning after" pills... after another Friedman or two.
At the very end of that piece:
"It also puts Democrats' names on a list of votes that they can take out on the campaign trail in 2008. And try to change the war, knowing that they'll never succeed, also means Democrats can't get blamed for anything that goes wrong. John Roberts, CNN, Washington."
Democrats are already being blamed for anything that goes wrong. Doesn't Roberts watch the news?
We're rapidly approaching the 4th Anniversary of the start of the Iraq war. Can somebody tell me what bold, original, creative new strategy is going to lead us to achieve in the next 6 months (i.e., one Friedman Unit) that we were not, for whatever reason, able to achieve in the last 8 Friedman Units?
Hope springs eternal. I'm also hoping the Denver Nuggets will take the NBA title this spring, but I ain't holding my breath ...
Baghdad Bob/DC Dick...I can't tell the difference.
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