I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarFirst?


GravatarSecond!


GravatarBush bites the green weenie


Gravatarbush is a dick and americans are too dumb for the democracy promise


GravatarBest entry I found

Contras:

The Contras were the anti-communist party of Nicaragua in the 1980s. The United States supported the Contras by selling weapons to Iran, a prominent Muslim nation. Normally this would have been illegal, but it was done by President Reagan, so that was okay.


GravatarI'm Third was the motto of the Y Camp I went to as a kid.

Christ First
The other fellow second and
I'm Third

Seemed wisdom at the time


GravatarWhatever Bush decides, it's good. If you're a mindless drone, that is. For the rest of us, not so much.


GravatarThe British pulled out some troops and that's proof of progress! We're sending in some troops and that's proof of progress!


GravatarAnd first to say: Atrios--this post is truly verging on the incomprehensible.

I mean, even in the very first sentence you use the weasel phrases. "people." "have mostly come around."

Your point is made less rather than more clear by your writing in this instance.


Gravatar"We have to give this war that we wanted so much and have excused so often one more chance before it is the failure we are all now are saying we always knew it was going to be."

Sincerely,

The Wise Pundits of Washington


GravatarI'm Third was the motto of the Y Camp I went to as a kid.


Did you go to the one up by Pickerel/Emerald Lakes in Newaygo?

My ex-Zack's dad was the pastor who ran that place.


GravatarFaux Warrior culture
faux war


GravatarBoosh is our personal Hitler. How much compensation should be paid tothe Iraqis? How much did the germans pay to the jews after WWII?

I'm thinking about a million dollars per death. That's around 700 billion dollars.

We or our kids will pay it. That's the price of living in a nuclear-armed terror state.


GravatarVicki, no. It was Camp Pendalouon on Big Blue Lake north of Muskegon. Nice place yet.


Gravatar'The British pulled out some troops and that's proof of progress! We're sending in some troops and that's proof of progress!
The Kenosha Kid'

This is a natural Progression for wingnuttia.


GravatarIs Simels up here?

If so, I did a little googling about Jane Olivor and discovered that she is still alive. Apparently, she went on hiatus to take care of her husband, who spent ten years dying of cancer.

But she's back performing - I think in San Francisco and NYC, according to a web site.

I'd love to see her perform...


Gravatarif i lived in another country, would i not be somewhat fearful of 'crazy' america after the fake iraqi war?


GravatarBoosh is our personal Hitler.

"Do you accept Bush as your personal Hitler?"


Gravatar'So we've (The Wise Men) gone from thinking Bush will leave Iraq at some point and that's a good thing to thinking that Bush will not leave Iraq at some point and that's a good thing. '

If you truly believe, you went along with the tax cuts because we had a surplus, to the tax cuts because we had a deficit. It's the ultimate in rational behavior. Just Do It.


GravatarIt's interesting how completely they ignore what to me is obvious: staying in Iraq makes the whole situation in the ME more dangerous. At some point in an occupation timeline, really, really bad things are going to start happening in the western-allied ME nations. The corrosive aspects of occupation are never discussed.


GravatarNotice how nobody and I mean nobody even mentions the Iraq Study Group anymore.


GravatarDr. Molly Ivors: Return it, cancel your membership, and get Netflix. You'll be glad you did.

Nah, been there, did that, several years ago. Back then, if you'd been a member for a month or two, it started becoming impossible for you to get the entire season of a TV series -- one DVD would just NEVER arrive.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 11:25 am


Thank goodness the Dayton library finaly figured out that those dvd's shouldn't be separated, so now you get the whole season, instead of 6 dvds out of order.


GravatarI'd love to see her perform...

March 11 in SF! Hint, hint...


GravatarShrubco is playing chicken with the war and daring the Democrats to stop it


GravatarPoop!

No one calls sheets.
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GravatarBack then, if you'd been a member for a month or two, it started becoming impossible for you to get the entire season of a TV series -- one DVD would just NEVER arrive.

I've heard of problems like this, but I've been with them about four years now and it hasn't happened to me.

Of course, we're just up the road from their (probably main) distribution center... I get overnight turnaround.


GravatarShrub knows that if he asks for help, his parents are sure to find out, and he'll be grounded.


GravatarNotice how nobody and I mean nobody even mentions the Iraq Study Group anymore.

Propartition Peter Galbraith refers to the ISG in his current NYRoB piece, but I know what you mean about the usual suspects.

BTW, hope your friend is okay. How much time did have off between rounds of chemotherapy?


GravatarI've not slept in a couple days, so g'night batties.

I leave you with lovely cats.


GravatarSo we've (The Wise Men) gone from thinking Bush will leave Iraq at some point and that's a good thing to thinking that Bush will not leave Iraq at some point and that's a good thing. I'm not sure that's progress, but at least we understand that Bush isn't leaving.

What strikes me as funny is how you don't hear the word "progress" much anymore; with regard to Iraq. You hear "stability" and "secure" and other 'offensive' words sputtering out of the clods that still support the greatest adventure evah.

If anything, they've proven to themselves that they lost this war.


GravatarMETHINKS there is a comma missing somewhere in that last paragraph...rereading helps...sad, though that this is what passes as a GOOD THING these days...


GravatarNo wonder the gay men love her.


GravatarI was amazed to see the recent riots in Athens. Student protestors, in the thousands, throwing gasoline bombs at the police, who responded with tear gas. Yet, nobody was killed.

Try that on the streets of D.C. and hundreds if not thousands would die by machine-gun fire.


GravatarAnd first to say: Atrios--this post is truly verging on the incomprehensible.

You grade on a curve, though, right?


GravatarDear plantsman -
Just to let you know, I will NOT be attending the Junior League Sale at the Fairgrounds. Will. NOT.

'Enkew.
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Gravatar'Notice how nobody and I mean nobody even mentions the Iraq Study Group anymore.
ql in ny '

They are so Quaint.


GravatarIt's not that Bush is some paragon of steadfastness. It's that short of "winning" (whatever that means), he has no way to leave and save face. A belief in the rightness of his cause is not what's keeping the US in Iraq.

Look at his business history, and his personal history. Every fuckup he's made, every failed venture, has been spit'n'polished by Poppy or Poppy's rich friends. Bush never loses in the process, he is enabled to come out ahead.

There's nobody to lipstick the pig this time, so he's got to play it out, no matter how many (other people's) lives and how much (other people's) money it costs.


GravatarMarch 11 in SF! Hint, hint...


Yeah, I saw that. Unfortunately, I have to work a women's health expo for my new job on that day.


GravatarFor some reason I'm reminded of that Woody Allen joke, Doc, my brother thinks he's a chicken...blah, blah, because we need the eggs.


GravatarI'm thinking about a million dollars per death. That's around 700 billion dollars.

By the time you take off for administrative costs and depreciation, it'll work out to about forty cents per purple finger.

And besides, the 700 billion dollars are in Bremer's basement. In the Cayman Islands. And they're not going anywhere.


GravatarWhy isn't someone replaying his flight of fancy over nd over and over - how many times did he declare mission accomplished


GravatarThere's nothing we haven't said about Iraq, at this point.

It's all been said. Over and over again. And we the people are powerless to act on the words.

All talk, no action.

Time for diplomacy. It works, ya know.


GravatarHow much time did have off between rounds of chemotherapy?
masculine


It was her second go round with cancer.

Three weeks after retiring she was diagnosed with entremedial (sp is really fucked) cancer and had an operation, radiation and light chem. Then she had knee replaced. Then they found cancer again which apparently was the first cancer, they just didn't get it all. So this round of chemo was heavier.

Thanks for asking.


Gravatar And first to say: Atrios--this post is truly verging on the incomprehensible.

You grade on a curve, though, right?
masculine_monica_nyc | 02.24.07 - 12:01 pm | #


Yeah...

Huh, maybe that's why I never get a link!


Gravatarql in ny, that sucks. Cancer sucks.

I'm sorry for your friend.


GravatarDoes Conservapedia have an enttry for Anne Coulter's penis?


GravatarOT:

USA!! USA!!

WASHINGTON - The percentage of poor Americans who are living in severe poverty has reached a 32-year high, millions of working Americans are falling closer to the poverty line and the gulf between the nation's "haves" and "have-nots" continues to widen.

A McClatchy Newspapers analysis of 2005 census figures, the latest available, found that nearly 16 million Americans are living in deep or severe poverty. A family of four with two children and an annual income of less than $9,903 - half the federal poverty line - was considered severely poor in 2005. So were individuals who made less than $5,080 a year.

[...]

Over the last two decades, America has had the highest or near-highest poverty rates for children, individual adults and families among 31 developed countries, according to the Luxembourg Income Study, a 23-year project that compares poverty and income data from 31 industrial nations.

"It's shameful," said Timothy Smeeding, the former director of the study and the current head of the Center for Policy Research at Syracuse University. "We've been the worst performer every year since we've been doing this study."

With the exception of Mexico and Russia, the U.S. devotes the smallest portion of its gross domestic product to federal anti-poverty programs, and those programs are among the least effective at reducing poverty, the study found. Again, only Russia and Mexico do worse jobs.


GravatarBush's whole life has been "do-overs", but until now, his weak-charactered frat boy fuck-ups didn't destabilize the Middle East and threaten national security.

And at least he will have accomplished something extraordinary with his new title of Worst President in American History.


GravatarLeft below;
'All of wingnutland is in full swing against the Dallas DA because he's letting innocent people go;

What about this is putting a bee in their bonnet?
Falstaff'

Don't you know from Frontier Justice? Yes, the oxymoron. gores. brown/black people.


GravatarDoes Conservapedia have an enttry for Anne Coulter's penis?
spinozaPhilosophe


There is a joke in there struggling to get out.


GravatarShrub just wanted his own "splendid little war" like Poppy and Reagan had. And when it got way out of control, the coward blamed everyone else he could find.


GravatarNotice how nobody and I mean nobody even mentions the Iraq Study Group anymore. | ql in ny

One is reminded of the Vaccination Theory of Education-- I disremember who published it.

This theory holds that as a student, one "takes a subject"-- and that after one has "had" the subject, one becomes immune to the "subject" and need never "take it" again.


GravatarThis one is for jdw.

Heh.

Hee hee.


GravatarVicki,

and so the train of thought commences. I managed to be third on the thread, I say, "I'm Third," which reminds me of camp which reminds me that my father was on the board of directors of that same camp then I remember that he was also an officer of the Salvation Army and other charitable groups then I marvel that I join nothing and do little in that way then I wonder why. . . .

(And I will spend the day in reflection - it sucks to be me sometimes)


GravatarIs it worth checking out the conservative idiocy on the last thread?


GravatarOT: I've loved the Chinese Students/Back Street Boys "I Want It That Way" video since watertiger first linked to it. It makes me grin.


GravatarDWD,

I understand.

Shut your brain off. Except you're probably like me, and you can't.


GravatarNotice how nobody and I mean nobody even mentions the Iraq Study Group anymore. | ql in ny


Or as we called them at here at Casa Simels --


Baker-Hamilton Overdrive!


GravatarWith the exception of Mexico and Russia, the U.S. devotes the smallest portion of its gross domestic product to federal anti-poverty programs, and those programs are among the least effective at reducing poverty, the study found. Again, only Russia and Mexico do worse jobs.

The answer is of course a bigger tax cut so wealthy Americans can afford to hire more maids and gardeners.


GravatarOh, we're leaving Iraq sooner than Atrios thinks. With the Brits abandoning the southern part of the country and our helicopters being shot down on a regular basis, supply lines to the troops are going to become very tenuous.

Any action against Iran and we'll be out of Iraq in a matter of weeks because of the death and destruction.


Gravatarhello, rors, tho't you were dreaming of nobroompickingness. Smiling. Gurgling happily.


GravatarSunday Morning [Kathryn Jean Lopez]


Work Meet the Press into your schedule — Byron will be on.


If he shaves his head, I'll watch.


GravatarDamp, drizzly day here; bad for drying heavy cotton stuff. Drat!


Gravatarplantsman: Damp, drizzly day here; bad for drying heavy cotton stuff. Drat!

Clouds threaten, but no precip, yet.
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GravatarBush always orders mulligan stew


GravatarIs it worth checking out the conservative idiocy on the last thread?

Are you constipated? Then prolly not.


GravatarI played for Jane Olivor years ago. It was a pretty good cabaret act.


Gravatar'Damp, drizzly day here; bad for drying heavy cotton stuff. '

You don't have a stove?


GravatarHoo boy!!

The KILLER STORM* is a startin'...

*they've downgraded it quite a bit


GravatarBush is an untreated alcoholic, and he will do only one thing: escalate.

While he's in charge things are only going to go from bad to worse.


GravatarThen she had knee replaced. Then they found cancer again which apparently was the first cancer, they just didn't get it all. So this round of chemo was heavier.

Oh, that's rough. My lover's cancer was originally diagnosed as the result of a series of events that followed her breaking of her ankle. And aggressive chemo treatment has been kicking her ass too.

Best of good luck to you and your friend, ql.


GravatarAny action against Iran and we'll be out of Iraq in a matter of weeks because of the death and destruction.
puppethead


Unfortunately, I think you are right.

Or, after Israel bombs Iran and the Shia start to seriously target Americans, we lose a large number of soldiers, blame Iran and enlarge the war. Draft time under the banner of the brave men who have fallen.


GravatarSURABAYA, Indonesia: Indonesian engineers were forced to abandon an attempt to plug a gushing mud volcano by dropping cement balls into its crater on Saturday when a steel cable hoisting the balls broke, officials said.

Over the next few weeks, authorities plan to drop nearly 1,500 concrete balls, weighing up to 250 kilograms (500 pounds) each, into the geyser that started spewing noxious muck at an oil drilling field in east Java nine months ago.



In other news, engineers plan to use this method on K-Lo.


GravatarAny action against Iran and we'll be out of Iraq in a matter of weeks because of the death and destruction.
puppethead | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:09 pm | #

Death and destruction obviously don't bother our government, or anyone on this list. We might have to leave if radioative sandstorms result from our upcoming nuking of Iran though.


GravatarI played for Jane Olivor years ago. It was a pretty good cabaret act.


I adore the quality of her voice. She can play my emotions like a cello.


GravatarAny action against Iran and we'll be out of Iraq in a matter of weeks because of the death and destruction.
puppethead


Victory in Iraq should be defined as leaving without attacking Iran, yet getting Iran to stop it's nuclear program.

Is it niave to think that we should negotiate such a departure from Iraq with Iran? As I see it, it's all we got.


GravatarRuth: You don't have a stove?

I have one, but according to the new rules and regs @ the condos, I have to use it 20 ft. outside the structure, or my landlord gets fines $250.
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Gravatarbut at least we understand that Bush isn't leaving.

Our president, the drunken party guest who won't go home takes the world stage.


GravatarOf course I have a stove; but the dryers are electric, and cost infinitely more in quarters in weather like this.


GravatarWith the exception of Mexico and Russia, the U.S. devotes the smallest portion of its gross domestic product to federal anti-poverty programs, and those programs are among the least effective at reducing poverty, the study found. Again, only Russia and Mexico do worse jobs.

The U.S. policy of war on poor people continues apace. The U.S. is gonna win this thing.


GravatarAnd aggressive chemo treatment has been kicking her ass too.

Oh Monica, I am so sorry. Best of everything to you both.

I've known this woman for about 35 years. There aren't that many long term friends around anymore.


GravatarSURABAYA, Indonesia: Indonesian engineers were forced to abandon an attempt to plug a gushing mud volcano by dropping cement balls into its crater on Saturday when a steel cable hoisting the balls broke, officials said.


Holy shit.

How does one go about breaking one of those cables?


GravatarBush cannot leave Iraq, he's not there.


GravatarHas anyone got a list of winger idiots who've "re-discovered" the 1993 IAEA report where the IAEA documents the 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq?

You can add another one.
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GravatarThanks, ql.

I've known this woman for about 35 years. There aren't that many long term friends around anymore.

The city sometimes feels haunted by the people who aren't here anymore.


GravatarDiplomacy? Negotiations? This is Bu$hCo we're talking about here. Their idea of negotiations is, "We'll tell you what to do and you do it."


Gravatar"at least we understand that Bush isn't leaving."
Iraq or Office? I have heard the crazies on the right talking about how Bush may just cancel the 08 elections. Not that I believe that he could get away with it, but these are the same simple minded freaks that think it would be a great day when he abolishes Congress so that “Bush can do what needs to be done.” Like say nuke Iran flat or round up the lefties and toss them in the ICE detention camps you name it these wackos dream of the day that we all look the same (meaning white) and think the same(meaning not thinking at all, doing what your told and believing what your told to believe).


GravatarMy new favorite conservapedia entry on Patriotism.

Patriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader.

Patriotism comes from the Latin. An ancient Latino poet wrote "Dulce et decorum est pro Patria mori", which means "It is sweet and decorative for patriots to die"[1].


Oye Vey


GravatarGwynne Dyer had an interesting article that was in the Strib on Thursday re: Iran, Pace, etc.

[...]

Airstrikes alone cannot win a war, however massive they are, and they probably could not even destroy all of Iran's nuclear facilities, which are numerous, dispersed and often deeply buried. Many Iranians would be killed, but what would the United States do next? It would have few options, whereas Iran would have many.

Iran could flood Iraq with sophisticated weapons and send volunteers to help the fight against U.S. forces there. It could throw international markets into turmoil by halting its own oil exports. It could try to close the entire Persian Gulf to tanker traffic (with a fair chance of success) and throw the entire world economy into crisis. And any further U.S. airstrikes would simply harden Iranians' resolve.

So would Pace attack Iran if Bush ordered him to? His only alternative would be to resign, but he does have that option. Senior officers like Pace, while still bound by the code of military discipline, acquire a political responsibility as well. Like Cabinet ministers, they cannot oppose a government decision while in office, but they have the right and even the duty to resign rather than carry out a decision that they believe to be disastrous.

[...]


GravatarBush cannot leave Iraq, he's not there.
plantsman, lowercase


Nor is anyone he either knows or cares about.


GravatarJP; you go outside to cook?


GravatarHas anyone got a list of winger idiots who've "re-discovered" the 1993 IAEA report where the IAEA documents the 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq?

You can add another one. Plus the troll on the last thread.


GravatarIn the first national report from the heart of one of the world’s premier energy capitals, Frankly Speaking has obtained unclassified documents showing that at just one site alone, Saddam Hussein possessed and stored over 1 million pounds of uranium.

Ay, what a dumbass.


GravatarPoop!

No one calls sheets.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 11:59 am | #
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i called you


Gravatar"Senior officers like Pace, while still bound by the code of military discipline, acquire a political responsibility as well. Like Cabinet ministers, they cannot oppose a government decision while in office, but they have the right and even the duty to resign rather than carry out a decision that they believe to be disastrous."

Since when?


GravatarThe opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader.

Well, guess I am one treasonous bastard then.


GravatarPatriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader.


Gods, that is one disgusting phrase.

Fascism is the new black in conservatoidland.


GravatarSince when?
Mike

since always. doesn't mean they'll do it, especially if their conservatives or reNAMBLAcans.


GravatarFunny how they "document" 550 tons, but couldn't
"find" any of it, innit?


GravatarRuth: JP; you go outside to cook?

Of course not. The people drawing up these rules are idiots.

sittenpretty: i called you

I called you back! Try 615-278-9319.
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Gravatar(puts on tinfoil hat)
There's only one rational explanation for Bush's foreign policy.

Who has gained the most from the Iraq debacle? Iran, that's who. The Shiites have come into power there, and look to Iran for assistance and as a model. The Iranian influence has grown dramatically, as their adversary has been neutered.

Who has gained most from Israel's defeat in Lebanon? Iran, that's who. Hezbullah is now legitimized, if not lionized, throughout the Middle East, while Israel has never seemed weaker.

Who gains the most from American saber-rattling over Iran? The hardliners in Iran, that's who. Every bellicose move the US makes inspires Iranian nationalist sentiment to stand behind an otherwise feckless government threatened by the huge younger demographic's disillusionment with the Islamic state.

Such consistency is hard to explain unless a conspiracy so vast as to beggar the imagination has spread its malignant tentacles about the world.

Dick Cheney, my friends, must be in the pay of the Iranians. It's the only explanation consistent with the facts.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate...


GravatarPatriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country.

Conservapedia *luvs* Carter and the Clenis!


Gravatar Funny how they "document" 550 tons, but couldn't
"find" any of it, innit?


LOOK IN SYRIA!!!!

/rightist


GravatarOnce again I find occasion to quote T. Roosevelt:
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."


GravatarBTW, if you're looking to kill seven hours later today, TCM has a double bill of "Bridge on the River Kwai" followed by "Lawrence of Arabia" starting in about 45 minutes...


GravatarPatriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader.

Surely the Neo-Nazi movement is going to launch a intellectual property case against Conservapedia.


GravatarProfwombat,

You sure you don't want to read my book CHALLENGE?

What I want you to take away from this introduction is this: question everything. Don't take anything for granted. Challenge the premise the argument is based upon. If you look beneath the surface, perhaps you will see the manipulators at work. I have seen them . . .


GravatarOkie dokie. Off to brave the cold. Maybe as a treat I'll buy some Jamaican meat pies for dinner. Damn, those things are good but probably have about a pound of lard in the crust.


GravatarThanks dave, but the disc of The Seven Samurai is looking at me disapprovingly already!


GravatarDick Cheney, my friends, must be in the pay of the Iranians. It's the only explanation consistent with the facts.

As long as Iran is on the list of evil, liberal, america-hating countries, more business there is left open to Viceroy HAL's paymasters.


Gravatar'Of course I have a stove; but the dryers are electric, and cost infinitely more in quarters in weather like this.
plantsman, lowercase '

So hang the wet stuff in front of the stove and leave the door open, unless you really want to feed the dryer.


GravatarHokey smokes - here's a business book I might actually buy!


GravatarSo hang the wet stuff in front of the stove and leave the door open, unless you really want to feed the dryer.


If it's a gas oven don't do it.


GravatarI haven't benn able to get in to Conservapedia yet (takes forever to load), but looking at the excerpts posted here and elsewhere, I just can't see it being anything other than a really grand parody.

I mean, "Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country." is sooo over the top. Sure, there's some of the 30%ers who believe such nonsense, but are they smart enought to put up such a website?

What'chyall think?

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GravatarDWD ~

Winter Storm Warning complete with snow and freezing rain just flashed across my screen...


GravatarThe "wise men of Washington" need to be shipped, at bayonet point, to Iraq to spill their own worthless, cowardly entrails for this elusive "victory" they are so casually willing to sacrifice the young and non-millionaire for.

THEN we can bring the troops home.


GravatarI think you guys Atrios'd Conservapedia for me.

Maybe it's just as well...


GravatarIsn't that a song in Dreamgirls?


GravatarDWD: gotta go now; next time we're both on the boards, lead me towards a copy of your book...


Gravatar"Patriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader"

Since when did "patriotism" trump "freedom"? One can be a patriot and still question, criticize, and vote for the "other" party without having to feel guilty or be labeled a traitor.


GravatarVicki,

Got no place to go and nothing to do so . . . .

( I could actually spend some time writing but I am having a little crisis in that area so I just listen to music and F*** the Dog over here)


GravatarWhat'chyall think?

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MasterD, damn yankee


I am inclined to agree, but I think it serves a better purpose to pretend it's real. Remember how long it took them to figure out Colbert?


Gravatar"I haven't benn able to get in to Conservapedia yet (takes forever to load), but looking at the excerpts posted here and elsewhere, I just can't see it being anything other than a really grand parody."

Yesterday they were touting an article about them to appear on New Scientist, again supposedly yesterday. I imagine the NS folks found it so utterly devoid of anything in the least meaningful and cancelled the article.


Gravatar"Patriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader"

Egads. Is Truman president again?


Gravatarprofwombat - homepage is the link for the damned book Always


Gravatarhyeh uh jee goh sheep dah myuhn
joh sheem seu reh nee soh neul noh ah jool geh ah moo mahl uhp shee
nah reul mee ruh nae goh hahn guh reum doo guh reum
nae gyuh teh suh dohl ah suh suh guh ruh gah doh gwaen chah nah

nuh reul jahp goh sheep eun sohn jeet
joo muh nee eh geep geh uhk jee seu reh gahm choo uh doo goh suh
nee gah wuhn haet duhn muht jeen kkoom gah teun hyeh uh jeem
kkohk joo goh sheep eun nae mah eum eul nuhn ahl kkah

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nuh reul ee reun chae roh dahn hah roo doh soo meul shweel soo uhp suh suh
sarang hahl geh nuh (YE~) uhp shee sarang hae bohl geh
nah reul buh ryuh doo goh dduh nah gah doh nee gah meep jee ah nah suh
ee juh doh dwae kkae (HOH OOH WO~) kkeu shee ee juh nae doh dwae
nuh reul boh nae jo neun ee geel mah neun gee uhk sohk eh nahm gyuh jwuh~ OH YE


GravatarRemember how long it took them to figure out Colbert?

*Snicker* True dat. Some of 'em STILL haven't figured it out...

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GravatarHokey smokes - here's a business book I might actually buy!
dave™© | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:26 pm | #

Dave, if at work you're anything like you are here, then wouldn't a 'No Asshole Rule' apply to you?


GravatarThey had to whistle the Colonel Bogey March in Bridge Over the River Kwai because the words were censored:

"Hitler, he only has one ball
Goering has two but very small
Himmler is very similar
and Goebells has no balls at all."

Strangely enough Hitler was indeed a monorchid, as documented in the Russian autopsy reports released to the West in the early 1960's.


GravatarSomebody has been playing with the Jesus entry.


The name Jesus is simply the name "Joshua" translated first into Greek, then English. In Christian discourse, the name Jesus almost always refers specifically to Jesus of Nazareth, believed by Christian followers to be God's dad, who came to earth as a human c 2 AD. However, God has recently revealed on His blog that Jesus is actually His nephew, not His son. [1]


Gravatar"Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country."

Well, it does sound better in the original German.


Gravatar'If it's a gas oven don't do it.
smalfish '

Actually, I've used a gas oven as a hair dryer. I fear if anyone had come along, I'd have been locked up.


GravatarThe problem in my place is sturdy places to attach something to hang stuff on. I do not a stellar history with drywall, and I'd rather not mess it up.
I have counted my quarters and taken a decision;
Oregon is not Texas.


GravatarMy dog is running around like a crazy fool in the snow, he loves this weather. And you can see a photo of him (not from today) at my homepage link, I like it.


GravatarActually, I've used a gas oven as a hair dryer.

It beats using a toaster to iron your clothes... but not by much.


GravatarI'm confused. Really.


Gravatarbelieved by Christian followers to be God's son. Even I know this.


GravatarBush has already left the war
and now he is trying to dodge the blame


GravatarTags!!


GravatarOdd juxtaposition of comments:

Well, it does sound better in the original German.
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'If it's a gas oven don't do it.


Gravatar' However, God has recently revealed on His blog that Jesus is actually His nephew, not His son. [1]

trifecta'

and paternity is claimed by Howard Stern and a blonde bimbo's mom.


Gravatar"New Downy with Zyklon-B!"


GravatarBlood sugar falls, typing deteriorates.


Gravatar'It beats using a toaster to iron your clothes... but not by much.
Falstaff'

You shouldn't give me these ideas.... and it sounded better in the original
tonganese.


GravatarLeaving is your base losing that blank check for the endless war on terra.


Gravatar"Patriotism, or love of country, is the highest American virtue. Patriotism means unquestioning obedience and loyalty to the Leader of the country. The opposite of patriotism, treason, is the act of questioning, criticizing or voting against the Leader"



I prefer Teddy Roosevelt's take on that subject.


Gravatarah, well, spend your quarters then, and keep your quarters intact. :-}


Gravatar"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
- Theodore Roosevelt


GravatarThanks Ruth, I shall


Gravatar'It beats using a toaster to iron your clothes... but not by much.
Falstaff'


I can't fit my fat clothes into the toaster.


Gravatarfor Auld Lang Syne:
:rocket:


Gravatar'I can't fit my fat clothes into the toaster.
Little Brøther '

that's why they started making bagel width.

JeeZ, we have dust storm warnings now. this a.m. it hailed. Next, locusts?


GravatarApril 28!


Gravatar"The Contras were the anti-communist party of Nicaragua in the 1980s. The United States supported the Contras by selling weapons to Iran, a prominent Muslim nation. Normally this would have been illegal, but it was done by President Reagan, so that was okay."


Conservatives = braindead sheep


GravatarWhere's Moe when you need him:

A grand jury on Feb. 7 returned a 17-count indictment against Michael A. Flory, 32, including charges of rape, kidnapping, aggravated burglary, gross sexual imposition and witness intimidation. He is now on leave from his political post as the chairman of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs...1126/ SPORTS0101


GravatarI never know where to turn the "browness" dial, myself.


GravatarAlberto Gonzales to the Southern Baptist Executive Committee:

“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?” he said to vocal affirmation from Executive Committee members. “These are the kinds of contradictions we are trying to address.”


The Bush administration is starting a crackdown against discrimination against christians. Oh boy.


GravatarYou know, some days I really miss "The Montefuscos."

Also "Fish Police" and "Cop Rock."


Gravatarto whoever was thinking about watching V for Vendetta: it's a good movie, not super-great, but there are parts within that you will remember forever. Such parts may give you strength. So I again recommend watching it.


Gravatar“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?

I know! Cause Tiger Woods is verifiably not a god, and Jesus isn't even verifiable!


GravatarAlso "Fish Police" and "Cop Rock."

Funny you say "Fish Police".

It's Abe Vigoda's birthday today.


GravatarIF you guys have a problem with blind obedience to our great leader why don't you move to Venezuela!


This is incoherent even for me, but hey -- I'm on drugs.


GravatarI need to iron a shirt but I can't get my toaster out of the wall.


GravatarJeeZ, we have dust storm warnings now. this a.m. it hailed. Next, locusts?
Ruth


And still our iniquitous Pharoah refuses to let our people go from Iraq!


GravatarThe Rowenta Cordless Iron is da bomb!


GravatarMy problem is I can't decide if Jesus is divine or merely fabulous.


Gravatar“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?


Why should it be permissable for an employee standing around the water coooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Tiger Woods is a nigger’?


GravatarHey -- what do you call two homosexuals named Bob?











Oral Roberts!!!!!!


Gravatar‘Tiger Woods is a nigger’?
spinozaPhilosophe


Only parts is.


GravatarHey -- what do you call two homosexuals named Bob?


[rolls eyes]

Here's your punishment.


GravatarWe're never leaving Iraq

We still have troops in South Korea

We're never leaving Iraq

We're never leaving Iraq

We're never leaving Iraq

Permanent military bases.

Iraq will be our base in the Middle East useful for reaching out and thumping Arab and Persian states that don't listen to us.

We're so tough and bad...


GravatarThe Bush administration is starting a crackdown against discrimination against christians. Oh boy.
trifecta | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:44 pm | #


Oh yeah, there's a persecuted minority.

Whining power-mad assholes.


GravatarThe Rowenta Cordless Iron is da bomb!
plantsman, lowercase


Not to be outdone, I promptly yanked the cord off my Proctor-Silex.

But it seems to be taking an awfully long time to iron this sock.


GravatarAfternoon, bats.


GravatarFor no particular reason:

Via Overheard in Minneapolis

Freight packer #1: Man, I'm not looking forward to starting my car, it's going to be all cold.

Freight packer #2: Why, did you park it somewhere cold?


A thing of beauty.


Gravatar‘Tiger Woods is a nigger’?
spinozaPhilosophe

Only parts is.
Lime Rickey

same parts as Obama?


GravatarSimels,

I'm flashing back to my Jane Olivor days...

Quite pleasant, actually.

If I knew then what I know now, I coulda been a contender...


Gravatar“These are the kinds of contradictions we are trying to address.”

I read that article and the thought kept hitting me that these people are children.

Some people play house, these people play church.


Gravatarconservapedia on Dick Nixon...

Nixon was from a Quaker family. His Christian foreign policy as president was marked by détente with the atheistic Soviet Union and the opening of diplomatic relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. His centrist domestic policies combined conservative Christian rhetoric and liberal action in civil rights, environmental and economic initiatives


GravatarYou know what was most wrong about Judge Roy Moore's 10 Commandments lump? It was UGLY!


GravatarHere's your punishment.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 02.24.07 - 12:51 pm | #


Speaking of wonderful gal singers who died way too young -- and no, for a change I'm not talking about my personal fave Sandy Denny --

Do you know from Eva Cassidy?

(I think that's her name....)


GravatarWoods is more colored
as he has no white parents

he has one black and one yellow


GravatarBonjour

can i blogwhore Madeleine? She's just the prettiest little furball ever!

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blo...77/ IMG_9363.jpg


GravatarWhy, did you park it somewhere cold?

A take-off on Arkansas Traveller:

Q - Why is your corn so little and yeller?

A - I planted the little yeller kind.


GravatarGomez,

for you.

Sentimentally yours,


GravatarAlberto Gonzales to the Southern Baptist Executive Committee:



“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?” he said to vocal affirmation from Executive Committee members. “These are the kinds of contradictions we are trying to address.”



Take about pandering.


GravatarWhen did anyone ever say leaving was not losing?

And when did a majority of the American public say stay rather than lose (if the equation is right)? When did they declare death over departure?

Tell me again about this shiny bauble you call "democracy," and just how it works. I am intrigued by how much power politicians claim, and how much they are allowed to have, in spite of public opinion. After all, opinions against Vietnam were not so high as they are against Iraq, even in 1975.


GravatarOkay, off the phone with the lovely sittenpretty.

Now... to make the gravy, and watch V4Vendingmachines, or waste all day on this bloody box?
.


Gravatarsorry - TALK about pandering


Gravatar'And still our iniquitous Pharoah refuses to let our people go from Iraq!
Little Brøther '

If you hadn't lost your snakes on the plane, we'd be out already.

and btw, steve simels, at the homepage I have memorialized the anti soldier hawk. you reminded me.


GravatarThis is good, too:

Drunk Girl #1: I'm so proud of my honey! He's 29; I can't believe it!

Drunk Girl #2: Wow, that's almost 30.

Drunk Girl #1: And I'm 24, which is almost 25, which is halfway to 30!


GravatarA - I planted the little yeller kind.

Oh yeah, "Early Sunglow." Heh.


GravatarBTW -- anybody seen the theatrical trailer for ZODIAC, David Fincher's new dark thriller?

At the end they use a snippet from Rod Stewart's version of the Tempts "I'm Losing You."

It had never dawned on me how creepy and ominous that record is....


GravatarVicki, Who ♥ Al Gore is giving Eschaton quite the Olivor twist today!


GravatarNow... to make the gravy

I could have swore it was "time to make the donuts".

I could be wrong.


GravatarSimels,

I've been googling her and reading up on our darling of the cabaret, and she's still alive!

She went into seclusion to care for her husband, who was dying from cancer.

And yeah, Eva Cassidy could sing!


GravatarVagina, as defined by the conservapedia.


Gravatar“Why should it be permissible for an employee standing around the water cooler to declare that ‘Tiger Woods is God,’ but a firing offense for him to say ‘Jesus is Lord’?” he said to vocal affirmation from Executive Committee members. “These are the kinds of contradictions we are trying to address.”



Take about pandering.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now


What I really appreciate is their idea that there's some kind of equivalence here: that an empty form of praise ("Tiger Woods is God") makes this also an empty form of praise, and therefore legally legitimate: "Jesus is Lord."

They've emptied themselves of everything except seeking after power. There's nothing "religious" or "spiritual" in their affirmation of Gonzales' chop-logic at all.


GravatarZodiac looks to be good. I hope it's not the suck. The zodiac killer is a fascinating case.


GravatarEva Cassidy, great voice and expression, could take any tune and make it her own. Stupendous talent.


GravatarDo the conservapedia contributors truly believe what they're posting, or are they just parroting propaganda to convince everyone else? It's so hard to tell when that line is crossed from manipulator to bug-eyed brainwashed cultist.


GravatarVicki

TRUMAN SLEEPS

The second best part of the movie.

The best part would give away the ending.


GravatarIs conservapedia running on a 386, 32 megs of ram with XP loaded? Because it just will not come up for me?


GravatarSucks that Steve Gilliard is in ICU. Didn't he have a health crisis a couple of years ago?


GravatarDear Alberto:

It's inappropriate to bring Jesus up at work, cause
A) you're on the bosses' nickel, and
B) that's what Churches are for!


Gravatar'Gomez, Popsicle Toes'

Lemon-flavor?

Abu is looking for the next big bumpersticker.


Gravatar"conservapedia"

Is this the troll bible or something?

Because the stuff in it is the kind of BS they spout.


Gravatarand btw, steve simels, at the homepage I have memorialized the anti soldier hawk. you reminded me.
Ruth | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:57 pm | #


Nice job. Good for you.


GravatarOkay, I'm coming to grips with being stuck in the house all weekend, but for godsakes, if someone cares out there, block my access to the kitchen. And the sleet storm component of the blizzard hasn't even started yet.


GravatarI love the piano music in that Truman Sleeps video. Thanks for the link.


GravatarGomez,

that's wild...but why is he wearing pink jammies?


GravatarMichael Franks sang a good version of Popsicle Toes


GravatarSucks that Steve Gilliard is in ICU. Didn't he have a health crisis a couple of years ago?

Yeah, a heart thing, IIRC. And that marked a nice uptick in tragedy trolls...


Gravatarnoblejoanie: Okay, I'm coming to grips with being stuck in the house all weekend

Welcome to my post-scooter life!
.


GravatarDo the conservapedia contributors truly believe what they're posting, or are they just parroting propaganda to convince everyone else? It's so hard to tell when that line is crossed from manipulator to bug-eyed brainwashed cultist.
puppethead


Is it real or a parody?


GravatarJP--Post-scooter as in libby, or post-scooter as in moped?


GravatarConservapedia needs an "entry" for mangina.


GravatarIs conservapedia running on a 386, 32 megs of ram with XP loaded? Because it just will not come up for me?

It does seem to be on a very low powered server, or, it's having the snot pounded out of it by people like us who are trying to determine if it's snark central or the dipshits actually are posting crap like that.


GravatarTake about pandering.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now


Ain't it the truth! And notwithstanding that we have been persistently trained and educated against judging by appearance, the very sight of the odious little toad screams "pimp".


Gravatarfishbowl kitten

http://www.dailykitten.com/


Gravatar"Conservapedia needs an "entry" for mangina.
spinozaPhilosophe "

I take it merkin will be an entry as well then.


GravatarOkay, I'm coming to grips with being stuck in the house all weekend

Here, it lasts for months, and we call it "winter".


GravatarEva Cassidy, great voice and expression, could take any tune and make it her own. Stupendous talent.
ronjazz | 02.24.07 - 12:59 pm | #


Yup. Even songs you've heard a zillion times. Like "Over the Rainbow."


Gravatarthat's wild...but why is he wearing pink jammies?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


He must be comfortable with his sexuality.


Gravatarnoblejoanie: JP--Post-scooter as in libby, or post-scooter as in moped?

The CDM was stoled!
.


GravatarEva's "Over The Rainbow" is a wonderful rendition!


GravatarLemon-flavor?

I wish.


GravatarThe zodiac killer is a fascinating case.
trifecta


Yes,it is!

=========================
What I really appreciate is their idea that there's some kind of equivalence here: that an empty form of praise ("Tiger Woods is God") makes this also an empty form of praise, and therefore legally legitimate: "Jesus is Lord."

Rev. Rmj, Curiously Refreshing

Those idiots seem to go from A right to C, don't they?


GravatarYup. Even songs you've heard a zillion times. Like "Over the Rainbow."

She did have an amazing voice, but some songs are just so great you can hear them over and over and they never get tired.


Gravatarplantsman

I know from winter, lifetime midwesterner, but this late winter storm sucks. The redwing blackbirds should be back next week, cranes, etc. Hopefully they're sitting safe down in S IL


Gravatar Okay, I'm coming to grips with being stuck in the house all weekend

And I'm coming to grips with the fact that our killer storm is a mere whimper right now.

*sigh*


GravatarThose idiots seem to go from A right to C, don't they?

That would explain why they don't have a Plan B.


GravatarI have not tried to view Conservatedia.


GravatarMSNBC:
Michigan’s female U.S. attorney resigns
Democrat says she may be latest resignation forced by Bush administration

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. - Michigan’s first female U.S. attorney says she is stepping down, prompting speculation that she is the latest in a wave of resignations forced by the Bush administration.

Margaret M. Chiara, 63, said Friday she would resign her position effective March 16, but did not say why. She said in a statement issued by her office that she intends to remain in public service.

At least they're starting to notice.


GravatarJP--That sucks. I don't know how I missed your loss. Hope the thief gets thrown!


GravatarThe zodiac killer is a fascinating case.

They never solved that, did they?


GravatarI've been googling her and reading up on our darling of the cabaret, and she's still alive!

She went into seclusion to care for her husband, who was dying from cancer.

Well, that's nice to know. Is she singing again?


GravatarNTodd--maybe they don't have Plan B because, after all, that's for abortin' babies, eh?


GravatarI know from winter, lifetime midwesterner, but this late winter storm sucks. The redwing blackbirds should be back next week, cranes, etc. Hopefully they're sitting safe down in S IL
noblejoanie


Spent two winters in S IL, in farm country (town of 500, most of them livestock).

Still miss that time of year, waiting for the red-wing blackbirds to show up on the stalks by the road, telling me spring would soon be along.


GravatarBonjour

can i blogwhore Madeleine? She's just the prettiest little furball ever!

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blo...77/ IMG_9363.jpg
Plum P | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 12:55 pm


Plum,

Did you see this kitty couple on Cute Overload?

http://www.typepad.com/t/trackba...ckback/ 16211114

The black one looks like my Spike.


GravatarGomez,Popsicle Toes, this is for you.


GravatarIt's like spring here.

I have the windows open. Damn. It's 73 degrees already.

There's a nice breeze though.


GravatarWe are NOT losing this war, we have ALREADY LOST this war. When you lose you leave..period. When are we going to truly understand this?


GravatarFor those with slow connections, here's the current Conservapedia.org entry on Vagina:

Vagina
The vagina is a mammalian organ used for both sexual intercourse and birthing infants. This organ is mysterious in humans (though has been studied extensively by conservatives in such animals as sheep, cows, and goats). It is known that the vagina emits a foul odor sometimes approaching that of fish and has the appearance of a canned ham dropped from the top floor of the Empire State Building. Many vaginas are also believed to contain teeth as a protective measure, so extreme restraint should be practiced by anyone wishing to spelunk a human female's vaginal caverns.

The vagina is capable of enormous changes in size and shape during birth, gaining a diameter of up to 10 centimeters. An extremely toxic and malevolent fluid known as menstrual blood also exits via the vagina for three to seven days per month for most women.

After taking these factors into account, it can be assured that true conservatives can and do stay away from these yawning chasms of doom. If a conservative wishes to reproduce, he should have a liberal man of approximately the same genetic characteristics impregnate his wife. To ensure that the resulting spawn is not contaminated by the filthy vaginal orifice, a mandatory caesarean section is necessary.

Vaginas are elusive in the wild and may be impossible to discover for most conservatives. Non-scale models of a vagina's appearance may be found by seeking photographs of the mouth of the great white shark. Only the most courageous should even attempt to see the true horrors that lie within.


Gravatar'Nice job. Good for you.
steve simels'

(blushes) T-Thank Y-Y-You.


GravatarWell, that's nice to know. Is she singing again?


Yes, mostly in gay friendly venues in gay friendly towns like SF, NYC, Boston...

She could sell a house out if she'd take it nationally.

She'll be 60 this year. Unbelievable.


GravatarI dunno... the Weather Channel is showing a storm over Smackover. Where is that?
.


GravatarVaginas are elusive in the wild and may be impossible to discover for most conservatives.

This is fucking brilliant. I bow to whomever created this entire parody site.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=l1qKUmnBs4k


Incredible voice.


GravatarMunch Time!


GravatarBTW -- mentioned this upstairs, but I just saw Jim Carrey's new horror movie.

Oy gevalt. There's two hours I won't get back.


GravatarI am debating creating an account at conservapedia. It has kept me smiling all morning. Bless their hearts.


GravatarIs there an entry on Bagina, Larry?


GravatarMargaret M. Chiara

Unfortunately, she is a well-respected judge.


GravatarVaginas are elusive in the wild and may be impossible to discover for most conservatives.

Euell Gibbons stalked them.


GravatarI have not tried to view Conservatedia.
plantsman, lowercase


I refuse to.

Judging from the quotations alone, it's not worth my time.


GravatarStill, the Elite Consensus by the Wise Men of Washington is that we need to give it another chance, and then another, and then another. In other words, it's a good thing that Bush isn't leaving.

Sorry for being on thread. Giving another chance to the Mossad and its master plan is all we're ever going to see, they own the corporations and the corporations own our government.

Liebersniveler and the other old white men in suits who own the world aren't going to end the conflict anytime soon. I'm starting to believe in fate...of the Iraqi people being stuck in misery forever.


GravatarMargaret M. Chiara

Unfortunately, she is a well-respected judge.


Judge?????


GravatarA little more on the "resigned" U.S. Attorney:
Chiara was nominated by President Bush for the position in 2001. During her tenure as U.S. attorney for the Western District of Michigan, the jurisdiction has seen a 15 percent increase in felony prosecutions and convictions. She developed an attorney training and mentoring program that now serves as a national model, her office said.


Gravatar"Still miss that time of year, waiting for the red-wing blackbirds to show up on the stalks by the road, telling me spring would soon be along.
Rev. Rmj, Curiously Refreshing"

Your poetic reply triggered memories of Aldo Leopold:

"We shall never achieve harmony with land, any more than we shall achieve absolute justice or liberty for people. In these higher aspirations the important thing is not to achieve, but to strive."

Leopold, Aldo: Round River, Oxford University Press, New York, 1993.


GravatarTalk about pandering.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now

Ain't it the truth! And notwithstanding that we have been persistently trained and educated against judging by appearance, the very sight of the odious little toad screams "pimp".
Little Brøther

My daughter says Abu sounds like Ren from "Ren and Stimpy".


GravatarTime to allow the 3 a.m. wake-up call from the kitty [who hates its diet and is taking it out on me] to take over. Night.


GravatarA little more on the "resigned" U.S. Attorney:
Chiara was nominated by President Bush for the position in 2001. During her tenure as U.S. attorney for the Western District of Michigan, the jurisdiction has seen a 15 percent increase in felony prosecutions and convictions. She developed an attorney training and mentoring program that now serves as a national model, her office said.
Lumpenprolitariot


"Heh heh - I made ya - now I can break ya!"
- Preznit Asshat


GravatarRuth--could that wake-up call have anything to do with antique cottage cheese, by any chance : )


Gravatarbushisover.org might be better if not everybody was holding the same lame sign.


GravatarThey've emptied themselves of everything except seeking after power. There's nothing "religious" or "spiritual" in their affirmation of Gonzales' chop-logic at all.
Rev. Rmj, Curiously Refreshing


Quite so; good point. The perspective and argument are so bogus on every level here that it's hard to know where to start. It's more shameless manipulation of their slow-witted sycophants.


GravatarFrom The Grand Rapids Press on Margaret Chiara's retirement.

I was going to post about this yesterday, but I got busy at work.

Chiara and her assistants refused to elaborate on her departure, but some believe she was caught up in a wave of demanded resignations by the Bush administration. At least seven federal prosecutors have left their jobs in recent months.

My guess is there's something there," said Jon Muth, a Grand Rapids lawyer and a Chiara supporter. "My sense is that she was doing an outstanding job, that she's a fine person and she's as ethical as the day is long.

"What she's not, is someone who is going to go to the street screeching and yelling even if she was treated badly. She's likely to keep her reasons (for the resignation) to herself, if they're hers. And if they're the department's, well, she'll keep those to herself, too."


GravatarJeff Goldblum getting his own detective show on TV?

Hell yeah, I'll watch that!


Gravatar(Anti Communist) (Fascist in this case)

The Contras were the anti-communist party of Nicaragua in the 1980s


GravatarOkay, gonna watch that Portman flick, now. See y'all in some hours.
.


GravatarDidn't he have one with Ben Vereen? 10 speed and something or other?


GravatarProsecuting Attorney.

I'm an idiot sometimes - things get stuck in my head and they won't go away.


Gravatarwell that greedy prick cheney's heartgears must be all a flutter - we just paid $309.9/gal for regular unleaded in Santa Barbara, CA – evil bastids...


GravatarThe "Mary Tyler Moore House" (that appeared in the opening credits of the show) is for sale in Mpls. I think for 2.5 mil

A few years after the show started, the producers wanted to film another opening sequence with the same house, but the owners at the time refused to take down their "Impeach Nixon" sign from their window.


Gravatarwe just paid $309.9/gal

Over 300 bucks? Wow.


GravatarHeard this on Rachel Maddow last night.


Apparently, there's some poor sad bastard who's been nominated for an Oscar for Best Sound Design seventeen times since 1984, and he's lost every time.

This year, he's got his 18th nomination, but unfortunately it's for -- you guessed it -- "Apocalypto."

Unless Hollywood Mayans vote as a bloc, the poor dope is going to lose yet again.


GravatarGomez,

Last weekend was fun.

This weekend is just kind of flat. Too bad for me that you can't come over and play.


GravatarFrom the Conservapedia home page:

"Did you know that faith is a uniquely Christian concept? Add to the explanation of what it means, and how it does not exist on other religions."


GravatarIt sucks to be that sound guy!

Kind of reminds me of Susan Lucci's umpteen daytime Emmy nominations for Erica Cane fifteen bazillion names thereafter.

I'm not sure if Lucci ever won..


GravatarDick Morris owes $280,000 in back taxes to Connecticut.


GravatarDick Morris owes $280,000 in back taxes to Connecticut.


Too bad. That'd cover an awful lot of toe sucking.


GravatarI'm not sure if Lucci ever won..

IIRC, she did, and it was big news.


GravatarUnless Hollywood Mayans vote as a bloc, the poor dope is going to lose yet again.

Oh dear. That's brutal.


GravatarThe vagaries of pop phenomena notwithstanding, I am unable to fathom the attraction for nasally female singing in Japanese.


GravatarSusan Lucci eventually won for a playing the first ancient Mayan on daytime.


GravatarMy new favorite conservapedia entry on Patriotism.



They're talking NATIONALISM, not patriotism.

They're too ignorant to know the difference.


GravatarOver 300 bucks? Wow.


GravatarKind of reminds me of Susan Lucci's umpteen daytime Emmy nominations for Erica Cane fifteen bazillion names thereafter.

I'm not sure if Lucci ever won..


As the toddler says, yes she won, I believe on her 18th nomination.


GravatarThe vagaries of pop phenomena notwithstanding, I am unable to fathom the attraction for nasally female singing in Japanese.
catalexis


Well, I DO like those two Mothra priestesses.


GravatarThey never solved that, did they?

No, but I'm living in the town that the leading suspect (now dead) called home!

Here's a good site covering the case. BTW, these guys are none too fond of Graysmith's book, which the movie is based on... in fact, nobody that really researches the case is.


GravatarI'm not sure if Lucci ever won..
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 02.24.07 - 1:21 pm | #


Yeah, she finally won. Forget when, but she's got the statue on the mantelpiece.

BTW -- ever wonder why the Grammy awards were named after the by then obsolete Grammophone, rather than the then contemporary Phonograph?




Cause they would have had to call them The Phonys!!!!!!!!

Haha!!!!!


Gravatar Susan Lucci eventually won for a playing the first ancient Mayan on daytime.

Erxquica Xquaine?


Gravatar"Did you know that faith is a uniquely Christian concept? Add to the explanation of what it means, and how it does not exist on other religions."


These people WERE raised in bubbles.

No two ways about it.


GravatarThe replacement of federal prosecutors with Bushies doesn't help my paranoia that he has no intention of leaving office and will declare martial law before the 2008 election.

Also there's that provision he slipped into a bill last fall that he can declare martial law for just about any ole reason.


GravatarSimels,

LOL


GravatarGreat collection of Zodiac letters at that zodiackiller.com site...


GravatarWell, I DO like those two Mothra priestesses.

The Twins from Infant Island!!!

That's the mental picture I always get when K & Y are here.

I always say that, but no one ever laughs.


GravatarLiebersniveler and the other old white men in suits who own the world aren't going to end the conflict anytime soon. I'm starting to believe in fate...of the Iraqi people being stuck in misery forever.
Pitchforks & Torches, AANG


Under the circumstances, I can excuse your being on-thread-- just make sure it doesn't happen too often.

Another pithy observation. Meanwhile, here's a tangential cranky HuffPo screed from some guy named Scott Thill, one of a bunch of HuffPo contributors I don't recognize.


GravatarThey're too ignorant to know the difference.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now


The product of home schooling and Jesus camp. And people think Islamic madrassas are bad.


Gravatara href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZcfhwvsAAs">Pretty Girl


GravatarThat's the mental picture I always get when K & Y are here.


LOL

And fuk you haloscan.


GravatarCause they would have had to call them The Phonys!!!!!!!!

I would have liked that.


Gravatar my paranoia that he has no intention of leaving office and will declare martial law before the 2008 election.

Also there's that provision he slipped into a bill last fall that he can declare martial law for just about any ole reason.
Cookie Guggleman | 02.24.07 - 1:25 pm | #


I know what you mean -- I really do -- but I perhaps naively still believe in the schoolboy myths of American Democracy at least to the extent where I just don't see that happening.

Under any circumstances....

Anybody disagree?


GravatarI should be cleaning my crib, but I'm so not motivated...


Gravatarsimels - no, I agree with you. It just ain't gonna happen.


GravatarGreetings, rational people.


GravatarI know what you mean -- I really do -- but I perhaps naively still believe in the schoolboy myths of American Democracy at least to the extent where I just don't see that happening.

Under any circumstances....


Well, if it's left up to Cheney, I could see it happening.

That fucker is flat out nuts.


GravatarI'm guessing you mean Pair Bambi and not the original duo.


Gravatar
I always say that, but no one ever laughs.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 1:27 pm | #


I doubt k&y is/are that cute, but it's still funny.


GravatarVicki, me too.

Think I'll hang out with my kitty instead, maybe go for a walk later.


GravatarAnybody disagree?


No, I'm with Thom Hartmann on that. We have rules in place to prevent those things from happening.

There are over 50 investigations on Republican scandals and tactics going on in congress right now...patience, people, patiece.


GravatarBush won’t leave Iraq because it is looking increasingly obvious that Iraq was always going to be the launching point for a war on Iran.

The US has not been rebuilding Iraq, they have been building bases for a major offensive against Iran. As many dirty fucking hippies said all along, this was in the New American Century bullshit paper. And was always the neo cons plan.

But the MSM don’t listen to dirty hippies because they are left wing and talk about conspiracies and such like.


GravatarWhenever I hear about the Grammys I can't help but think of the Simpsons episode where grammys are a dime a dozen and being thrown in the trash, or the Southpark episode where Phil Collins is repeatedly hugging and kissing his grammy (we won the category for which the SP folks were nominated for the 'Blame Canada' song)


GravatarYeah, she finally won. Forget when, but she's got the statue on the mantelpiece.

After all those years, I'm surprised that Lucci doesn't keep the statue... ahh, she seems like a nice-enough lady...

Just forget what I started to say.


GravatarI doubt k&y is/are that cute, but it's still funny.


If I bother to read their posts, I hear those high pitched voices too.


GravatarVicki, me too.

Think I'll hang out with my kitty instead, maybe go for a walk later.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave


Me three, although the walk I take a little later will be for a bag of cat food for my three rascals, all of whom are asleep on my bed.

They are unconcerned about Iraq and the state of our democracy. There are times when I envy them.


GravatarI doubt k&y is/are that cute, but it's still funny.

I've always pictured some glo-sticks and 'e'-laced pacifiers.


GravatarThe Bush administration is the King of the Bingo game. As long as they keep the wheel spinning, they can't lose.


GravatarBTW, for all you Zodiac fans, they'll be doing a special segment on him on tonight's "America's Most Wanted".


GravatarPrior to 9/11 there were several columns in WaPo about is the US a democracy with many answering certainly not.

We're either in a Oligarchical Kleptocracy or a Military Decidership, I can't be sure...


GravatarOn the other hand, if Joe Conanson's new book is to be believed -- and I think it should be -- we are already on a slippery slope to something that might not be quite as bad as martial law, but would still not resemble America any more.

Sinclair Lewis pretty much nailed it in "It Can't Happen Here." Which is to say, as Conason points out, it can.


GravatarWhat is it about k&y? I try, I really do, but I don't understand what they're saying most of the time.


Gravatarer, he not we...


GravatarI should be cleaning my crib, but I'm so not motivated...

"Bridge on the River Kwai" is on TCM right now... followed by "Lawrence of Arabia".

So that's seven hours right there.

Tomorrow, it's "Gone With the Wind," followed by "Casablanca"... unfortunately, I'm going to a crystal fair!


Gravataroooh, I'd love to go to a crystal fair!


GravatarThis organ is mysterious in humans (though has been studied extensively by conservatives in such animals as sheep, cows, and goats).


Rigorously, even.


GravatarI wish Gomez wasn't working so he could play with me.


GravatarRegarding the Grammys, two words: Milli Vanilli. And they way they feted really bad country music this year, ugh. How can anyone outside the industry care?


GravatarWhat is it about k&y? I try, I really do, but I don't understand what they're saying most of the time.

The drunker I get, the more sense he/she/it/they make.


GravatarThe past two Frontline episodes have really done a good job of "putting a face" on the administration.

They're not quite Nixonian paranoid, but they're like Freemasons on crack.


GravatarThe highest court in Canada just slapped down Canada's version of the Military Commissions Act.

At least some people are tending to the idea of democracy.


GravatarWhat is it about k&y? I try, I really do, but I don't understand what they're saying most of the time.

They lose something in translating from the original esperanto.


GravatarDrat...lunch beckons.

Talk to you fine folks again in a couple of hours, j'espere...


GravatarThe drunker I get, the more sense he/she/it/they make.


Now I get it.


Gravatar"Apparently, there's some poor sad bastard who's been nominated for an Oscar for Best Sound Design seventeen times since 1984, and he's lost every time.

This year, he's got his 18th nomination, but unfortunately it's for -- you guessed it -- "Apocalypto."

Actually he was on the news and was niether old nor sad. Just started at a young age and was good at it. He seemed to have a sense of humor about it.


Gravataroooh, I'd love to go to a crystal fair!

See, if you lived out here, you and my wife could go, and I could watch "Gone With the Wind"!


GravatarI think the GOP propaganda machine is broken, we're past the most dangerous time. It's still ugly and there's a lot of mess to clean up, but the Bush government doesn't have the unstoppable momentum they had before. We just have to keep vigilant against their machinations of power.


Gravatar"...at worst will leave their successor ..."

Atrios, I'm surprised to hear you seem to buy into the notion that the bushliar-criminal is leaving office some time. Don't you think that God will tell (or has already instructed)him that fighting terra-ists is too important for him to leave it to someone else. After all, bush has indicated that it is his duty and promise to protect the 'Murkin people?

Knowing what we know about the bushliar-criminal regime and their propensity to us the cover of the metaphorical GWOT to ursup power, and ignore and undermine the constitution, I think it quite a leap of faith to assume they're leaving anything to a successor anytime soon. the cheney-maggot has literally said that no one can stop them and they don't care what the American people think.
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GravatarGeneral Plays Down Value Of Capturing Bin Laden


The Army's highest-ranking officer said Friday that he was unsure whether the U.S. military would capture or kill Osama bin Laden, adding, "I don't know that it's all that important, frankly."

"So we get him, and then what?" asked Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the outgoing Army chief of staff, at a Rotary Club of Fort Worth luncheon. "There's a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today.


Gravatar"So we get him, and then what?" asked Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the outgoing Army chief of staff, at a Rotary Club of Fort Worth luncheon. "There's a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today.

Translation from brownshirtese: we are so pwned!


GravatarGood grief. I just read that thing on Sadly No about the unicorns.

"Post Noachian"???

Are they fucking kidding me?


Gravatar Drat...lunch beckons.

simels must weigh, like 800 pounds. Everytime I see him here, he quickly runs off to another meal.


GravatarI wish Gomez wasn't working so he could play with me.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I wish I could play with you too.


GravatarBTW, I see the Kossacks are playing "steely-eyed realists" again.

Yo, Kossacks - who was it that's been kissing Harry Reid's ass every time he knuckled under to the rightwingers? Hint: the initials are "D.K."...


GravatarSimels is thin. Dashingly handsome and thin.


Gravatar"I wish Gomez wasn't working so he could play with me."

I wish I could play with you too.


OK, kids, this is why there's Instant Messaging...


GravatarI wish I could play with you too.
Gomez, Popsicle Toes


You're a good egg. You keep me out of trouble.


GravatarThe vagaries of pop phenomena notwithstanding, I am unable to fathom the attraction for nasally female singing in Japanese.
catalexis | 02.24.07 - 1:23 pm | #


That style comes from their theater tradition. The female koto player would sing the female part as the male actors portrayed the women onstage.

In the condensed hyperreal worlds of kabuki and noh the characters are almost always in some heightened emotional state. For the women, that usually means distress.

Thus the nasal wailing, in shame or grief or hopelessness

Yoko Ono's early singing sounded so wild to Beatles fans that she was suspected of fraud. But she'd studied koto as a girl and was well within the tradition


GravatarOK, kids, this is why there's Instant Messaging...
dave™©


Hey, it's a slow afternoon at Eschaton.

I'm waiting for my mom to drop in.


Gravatar"So we get him, and then what?" asked Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the outgoing Army chief of staff, at a Rotary Club of Fort Worth luncheon. "There's a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today.

The most American thing we could do with Bin Laden is put him on trial in federal court in NYC for murder.


Gravatarvicki & gomez are an embarrassment. take it elsewhere.


GravatarOkay, so now that I've exhausted all of the Jane Olivor resources on the Internets, I think I'll head over to daily kos and see what they're whining about.


GravatarThe most American thing we could do with Bin Laden is put him on trial in federal court in NYC for murder.
Cookie Guggleman


Ayup, you are 100% correct.

Unfortunately, right now our administration would chuckle at the idea as "so-o-o-o pre-9/11."


GravatarHmmm:

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos Reports: In an exclusive interview with former President Jimmy Carter set to air on Sunday's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos", Carter lavished praise on "(his) favorite Democrat) former Vice President Al Gore.

Carter told ABC News, "If Al should decide to run -- which I'm afraid he won't -- I would support Al Gore."

The former Democratic President asserted Gore could accomplish much more in the White House than he ever could as a private citizen, saying to Stephanopoulos, "His burning issue now is global warming and preventing it. He can do infinitely more to accomplish that goal as in the incumbent in the White House, than he can making even movies that get -- you know, that get Oscars."


Gravatarvicki & gomez are an embarrassment. take it elsewhere.
anonymous


Identify yourself, dickweed.

And provide a home address so I can pay you a visit.


Gravatarvicki & gomez are an embarrassment. take it elsewhere.
anonymous


How courageous of you. Perhaps you could learn to scroll on by...


Gravatarvicki & gomez are an embarrassment. take it elsewhere.
anonymous


Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

What a chickenshit.


GravatarI know what you mean -- I really do -- but I perhaps naively still believe in the schoolboy myths of American Democracy at least to the extent where I just don't see that happening.

Under any circumstances....

Anybody disagree?


I can see a case where, we attack Iran, and martial law is implimented to "keep the population safe".


GravatarLet's see if I can understand this...

On the one hand the Bush government says terrorism and al-Qaeda, headed by bin Laden, is the greatest threat to America and the world since WWII or the Civil War or the 100 Years War or whichever fits their daily narrative.

On the other hand the leader of al-Qaeda is so insignificant that we shouldn't even try and get him, because leaving him to run and strengthen the big bad scary terrorists is better than stopping him.


Gravatar
I can see a case where, we attack Iran, and martial law is implimented to "keep the population safe".


That won't have any semblance of legitimacy. All regimes need that veneer.


Gravatar"So we get him, and then what?" asked Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the outgoing Army chief of staff, at a Rotary Club of Fort Worth luncheon. "There's a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today.

Kind of like a certain dictator that will go unnamed?


GravatarI just figure there's a person or two out there who really dislikes my open and friendly style.

Hell, we're not even talking about sex...we're just talking about hanging out together.

Conversely, though, I probably wouldn't care much for that person, either. Too fucking rigid and uptight to warrant a place in my circle of friends.


GravatarJimmy Carter's a smart man, Zap.


GravatarOsama has a poisoned capsule hidden in his beard, so you'll never take him alive. You could put his white horse on trial for "aiding and abetting," but would the charges stick?


GravatarThat won't have any semblance of legitimacy. All regimes need that veneer.

Martial law was thrown about a lot during labor unrest in the early part of the 20th century, but it took on many forms and names.

But I just don't see it happening anytime soon.


GravatarOn the other hand the leader of al-Qaeda is so insignificant that we shouldn't even try and get him, because leaving him to run and strengthen the big bad scary terrorists is better than stopping him.
puppethead


I think the general was trying to suggest that all we would do is make a martyr for disaffected jihadists to rally around.

Too bad that consideration didn't arise when the administration was busy demonizing bin Laden as an excuse to go to war, after war, after war...


GravatarThe public square is a scary, embarrassing place, especially when there are vaginas and penises floating around. I mean, really, floating genitalia? Pretty fucking weird, man.


GravatarHell, we're not even talking about sex...we're just talking about hanging out together.

Someone is either really jealous or really lonely.


Gravataramen, NTodd. Christ, it's not like I'm posting pictures of my tits or something porny like that.


GravatarRobert Pinsky reading and analyzing poetry on Cspan2. His oralizations are too formed.


GravatarWe're either in a Oligarchical Kleptocracy or a Military Decidership, I can't be sure... | Mike

On the other hand, if Joe Conanson's new book is to be believed -- and I think it should be -- we are already on a slippery slope to something that might not be quite as bad as martial law, but would still not resemble America any more. | steve simels

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I haven't read the book, but I find the premise you describe to be self-evident. The Unitard™ crime syndicate holds out one hand to the Middle East and creates no end of hulaballoo and distraction-- while the other hand is disassembling and re-engineering the domestic foundation and administration of law and procedure, including law enforcement.

Curiously, although, as criminals must, the cabal has relied on stealth in all of its forms, the transmogrification has not been invisible or imperceptible. I think most people exist in a state suggested by Alvin Toffler's "Future Shock"; in a nutshell, the ordinary citizen is so jazzed with input from ANS to Zsa Zsa's husband, and preoccupied by mundane needs like making ends meet, that there are few who can or will pay attention to abstractions like someone else's civil liberties.

It's a death of a thousand cuts; e.g., that item recently that the dismissal of Federal prosecutors was authorized by a provision quietly inserted by Specter into some legislation-- the Patriot Act, maybe. Google it. My point is that reshaping law and practice is accomplished incrementally in the face of public ignorance or impotence.

So I believe that the morphing of our laws and law enforcement from a nation of laws administered by a Compassionate State to a Hollow Police State with authoritarian law stripped of traditional due process has metastasized.

Legislative reform is a potential remedy, if that's encouraging at all.


GravatarThat won't have any semblance of legitimacy.

I kinda agree. There is no way that they would have enough manpower to maintain martial law, but the fact is, if incorporated, it could be used as a weapon of terror for the administration, thus making it a sort of self maintained type of martial law.

Only a few individuals would have to be made exmples of, to throw the entire nation into a state of self imposed fear.


Gravataramen, NTodd. Christ, it's not like I'm posting pictures of my tits or something porny like that.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Which would break the sitemeter.


GravatarSomeone is either really jealous or really lonely.
Gomez, Popsicle Toes


And whoever it is, may I just remind them that they, too, can find romance on a message board.


GravatarI wish Gomez wasn't working so he could play with me.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

I wish I could play with you too.
Gomez, Popsicle Toes


I wish you would get a room!


GravatarRobert Pinsky. how does a man this tall and this good looking become a famous poet? Privilege.


GravatarGotta go, my mom's here.


GravatarGotta go, my mom's here.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Say hi to her for me, please.


GravatarWow.

Slow day 'round here.


GravatarGomez, detail all your sexual encounters with Vicki. NOW.


GravatarHell, we're not even talking about sex...we're just talking about hanging out together.

We're not talking about sex -now-.
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GravatarThe replacement of federal prosecutors with Bushies doesn't help my paranoia that he has no intention of leaving office and will declare martial law before the 2008 election.

Also there's that provision he slipped into a bill last fall that he can declare martial law for just about any ole reason.
Cookie Guggleman


A couple of years back, I would have feared the imposition of martial law.

Now? Nah!


GravatarI think the burgeoning romance between Vicki and Gomez is something to celebrate and in which to take raucous and good natured fun. I am on record as being utterly and unwaveringly opposed to the "No Flirting" rule. And anyone who disagrees is a wet blanket poopyhead who will demoralize the troops or something, harumpf!


GravatarHey, it's a slow afternoon at Eschaton.

OK... but if someone uses the word "schmoopy"...!!!


Gravatar
"Bridge on the River Kwai" is on TCM right now... followed by "Lawrence of Arabia".


For reasons known only to me, once upon a time there was a movie house in the Beverly Hills flats that ran a double bill of Bridge & Lawrence for something like a month. It must have been Christmas holidays, something, but I know that I attended at least 30 times.

It was lovely.
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GravatarrOBERT pINSKY SAYS A LINE OF IAMBIC PENTAMETER IS NOT ALWAYS A LINE of 5 peaks and 5 valleys.


GravatarDemolition of the Willing

Europe’s bitter memories of the Bush administration’s insults and hypocrisy are undermining efforts to restrain Iran’s nuke program—and have now led to the collapse of Italy’s Prodi government.

Feb. 23, 2007 - Four years ago a million people poured into the streets of Britain to march against the war they feared was coming in Iraq. I was in London, and I remember being struck by how decent, sincere and solid the protesters were. Many had come as families—mom and pop and the kids—just to stand up and be counted in favor of reason and diplomacy over sophistry, war and occupation.
(snip)

A focus group. Sure. Why not compare millions of people of good conscience gathered to exercise their civic duty to handfuls paid for their opinions about the marketing of new soft drinks or campaign slogans? Why would Bush or his acolyte, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, listen to a vast sampling of public concern when the two politicians knew in their hearts they’d already taken the right decision about launching the war.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1730.../site/newsweek/


GravatarOK... but if someone uses the word "schmoopy"...!!! | dave™©

Damned if I wasn't starting to type a comment noting that use of the term "schmoopy" is a clear violation of the Eschaton (No)Flirting Accords!

This should teach me a lesson about brevity, but it won't.


Gravatar Ok, this is pretty cute animation.


GravatarIs shapoopy ok?


GravatarGood one from Greenwald...


GravatarGomez, detail all your sexual encounters with Vicki. NOW.
dan


um, no. Nice try.


GravatarrOBERT pINSKY SAYS A LINE OF IAMBIC PENTAMETER IS NOT ALWAYS A LINE of 5 peaks and 5 valleys. kink

You wish you were as good as he, you twit.


GravatarRobert Pinsky reading and analyzing poetry on Cspan2. His oralizations are too formed.
kink | 02.24.07 - 1:58 pm | #


I'm not sure what "too formed" means exactly, but I suspect you think he's overthought the phrasing and overstylized the diction.

Depends on the poet whether that's a good idea. You can take a wide range of phrasing to Whitman, but the cadence is crucial--you'd better get that part right.

By contrast, Gerard Manley Hopkins was so worried about deviation from his complex meter that he developed his own set of diacritical marks, annotating everything to the nth. He was right; his poems sound magical pronounced "correctly," and lose something when the reader wings it.


GravatarI have to go mow the lawn so that Arthur can lounge, becomingly, on the fresh cut grass.
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Gravataramen, NTodd. Christ, it's not like I'm posting pictures of my tits or something porny like that.

Um...could you?


GravatarrOBERT pINSKY SAYS A LINE OF IAMBIC PENTAMETER IS NOT ALWAYS A LINE of 5 peaks and 5 valleys.
kink


Er, jack?

Shouting doesn't make your posts any more interesting.

Sorry!


GravatarYou wish you were as good as he, you twit.
And so do you. I suspect Pinsky comes from an eastern elitist family. I wish it was otherwise.


GravatarApparently some trolls wouldn't recognize iambic pentameter were it to bite their plentiful asses.


GravatarAll right. I'm going. Now.
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GravatarYou wish you were as good as he, you twit.
And so do you. I suspect Pinsky comes from an eastern elitist family. I wish it was otherwise.
kink


When the trolls start throwing terms like "eastern elitist" around, you know they've got nothing.


GravatarThere's no reason to select a white elitist as our poet laureate. There are abundant candidates from the poor from african americans.


GravatarMy family is eastern, though not elitist, but ironically I am.


GravatarMy family is eastern, though not elitist, but ironically I am.
JeffCO | 02.24.07 - 2:16 pm | #



Ummm.....

Colorado is NOT eastern.


Gravatarhttp://www.nndb.com/people/335/0.../335/000048191/


I don't think being the son of an optician makes one an "elitist."


GravatarI know why the basemented troll stinks.


GravatarThere's no reason to select a white elitist as our poet laureate. There are abundant candidates from the poor from african americans.
kink


Your CONCERN is duly NOTED.


Dave? Hand me those pliers.


GravatarRobert Pinsky says Ben Jonson killed a man.


GravatarUm...could you?
NTodd, Stalker - 2:12 pm


Here's a computer screen cleaner just for you


GravatarColorado is NOT eastern.

Spoken like a nonelitist.


GravatarSpoken like a nonelitist.


[tounge clicking]


How dare you!


GravatarRobert Pinsky says a poem is something that happens everytime someone reads it.


GravatarFor all you Noo Yawkahs, Elvis Costello and Rosanne Cash are gonna perform together April 13 at the Rubin Museum of Art...


GravatarRobert Pinsky says he thinks of himself as a musician.


GravatarOh, good, Drunky's here.

Not much action on your streetcorner, eh, Drunky?


GravatarHere's a computer screen cleaner just for you

Suddenly I feel like cleaning.

Oops, made another mess...


GravatarThe sad thing is that there really are medications that would help. Personally, I prefer Incog's heteropukist rantings.


GravatarThe highest court in Canada just slapped down Canada's version of the Military Commissions Act.

At least some people are tending to the idea of democracy.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Stephen Harper needed a good slapping around. He got it.


Gravatarhttp://www.comcast.net/news/ inde...itn_iraqideaths



But...but....non-christian brown people don't count!

It's unAmerican to say that they do!

/chickenhawk wingnuts


GravatarConservapedia's supposed to be parody, isn't it?

It would certainly seem to be


GravatarConservapedia's supposed to be parody, isn't it?

I dunno, but I really enjoyed that definition of a vigina.


GravatarVilsack just announced he is back in the race.


GravatarConservapedia's supposed to be parody, isn't it?

It would certainly seem to be
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I would hope so!


GravatarSmalfish--I enjoyed the last two sentences in their definition of statistics, which cracked me up.


GravatarVilsack just announced he has quit the race again...


GravatarIgnore "try and rile Eshatonians" trolls, and feast your eyes on some snowy photo blogging.


GravatarConservapedia's supposed to be parody, isn't it?

That would have been called Conservatardia.


GravatarVilsack was just seen going into a barber shop and shaving his head.


GravatarThe entry at wiki for The Bell Curve is without criticism. The book comes in for high praise. They claim the APA came out in support of the book. How could that be?


GravatarSpinoza--once was not enough?


Gravatar"Women were more likely than men to feel worried, compassionate, angry and tired; men were more likely than women to feel proud, a finding consistent with traditional differences in attitudes toward war between the sexes.

For women, said Gelpi, "there is an emotional response to casualties that men don't show. ... It could be some sort of socialization that men get about the military or combat as being honorable that women don't get."


Anyone, male or female, who is PROUD of genocide is a sick piece of crap!


GravatarJack is something that fails to happen every time he's read.


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gravatarsheets that Matter.


Gravatar"Robert Pinsky says a poem is something that happens everytime someone reads it."''

That reminds me of Louise M. Rosenblatt's The Reader, the Text.the Poem: The Transactional Theory of Literature


GravatarThe transaction of the reader with the twxt produces the poem.


GravatarI'm not sure why intelligent people are so easily caught up in the debate framed by the bad guys, and continue to play this game as if this framing has any basis in reality.

We're in the Middle East because of money...period. We aren't leaving...ever. It has nothing to do with egos and incompetence and lack of planning.

To the contrary, the planning by western interest to cease control of all countries surrounding the Caspian Sea basin's wealth of hydrocarbon resources has been in the works for decades, and is readily documented.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Iran have for years been part of this plan, first because there's no way for western interests to get the most lucrative commodities on the planet out of the Caspian Basin and to market without going through these other countries.

The route to Persian Gulf ports, with Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan in between, was and remains the natural and most cost effective path. With Pakistan already a partner, this leaves control in Afghanistan and Iran as essential. The former (and our pipeline through it) is already in our hands, and Iran is next.

Syria blocks the other direction to Mediterranean ports, so it's been on the 'hit list' for years as well.

Control of Iraq's enormous hydrocarbon reserves is a no-brain-er in itself, though for reasons most don't realize. Stemming the flow of oil out of Iraq to keep market prices high has been the obvious goal in the short term and is clearly evident by the past two year's events.

In short, the Middle East is about oil and we'd not be there if there was none. Since there is -- the most abundant reserves on the planet -- we're not leaving. Hell, we've barely got started. Prepare for war with Iran next as we continue to conquer these countries to steal and control these most lucrative resources.

Of course, the billions to be made in the process through tax payer funded defense and support industries is icing on the cake as well.

The Middle East is a cash cow for western rapacious capitalism and that's all this is about.

For some reason, even smart people on the left don't want to ever bring themselves to admit the obvious here. That this is about vast wealth/power and nothing else.

It's classic imperialism which has been repeated throughout the ages. It's about claiming other people wealth and resources for yourself, and at any expense and with no moral conscience about it whatsoever. The end always justifies the means for these people.

Wake up and smell the oil.

Simon
Fresno, CA


GravatarSorry I responded to kink's first comment seriously. It seemed halfway reasonable and I confused kink with someone else.


GravatarThis thread looks dead, but I just have to say, in case anyone is listening: Bush doesn't care if we leave. He wants to stay. He doesn't care about saving face. He just wants to make as much freaking money as he can for himself and his family's friends before we all wake up and get his ass (I wish) out. I repeat: BUSH WANTS TO BE THERE. HE DOESN'T WANT OUT. HE SELLS MORE MUNITIONS THAT WAY. HE DOESN'T GIVE A FLYING ____ ABOUT THE DEAD AND MAIMED. I know you know, but sometimes you seem to forget.

Thanks and have a nice weekend.


GravatarCan things get any worse for the Bush Administration?

Uh-huh, sure they can.

Maybe "abysmal"?


"Catastrophic"?

Or how about that old reliable standby "FUBAR"? Better keep a Thesaurus close, folks, we're gonna need it.


Our arrogant Commander-In-Chief, who once boasted of spending his "political capital" is bankrupt, his approval ratings at a subterranean 33%. The chickens coming home to roost are savage, Godzilla-sized behemoths stampeding towards the White House. And they're hungry.

So, what went wrong?

It's not that complicated: the iron laws of Cause & Effect can't be ignored, or very bad things will happen to you. Reality Doesn't Bullshit.

Not that they didn't try their damnest.

We'll hit the "rewind" button and take another look at that infamous quote" by the anonymous Bush aide in the New York Times magazine article by Ron Susskind:

"The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,'which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.' "

Can you say "vainglorious hubris", boys and girls?

O.K., now let's fast-forward to 2006.

In this year's midterm elections, the voters studied long and hard and decided to collectively bitch-slap the Republican party, giving control of the House and the Senate back to the Democrats. Finally, after six ugly years of idiocy, corruption, mismanagement and failure, the American public just wanted people in the government who knew what they were doing as opposed to bad actors who pretended that they did.

Yeah, I think it's that simple. In the real world, you don't go to a bad dentist when an infected tooth needs to be pulled out, hire a bad mechanic to fix your car or hire a bad lawyer to handle your divorce. Why would you vote for a bad senator or congressman? Or support a bad President? It's 2007, and people forgot that image of a triumphant Bush standing on top of the ruins of the World Trade Center. What they remember is a dumbfounded, not-so-curious George reading "My Pet Goat" in a classroom.

If the midterm elections were a test, a majority of pissed-off and disgusted Americans passed because they knew what the answer was:

Reality doesn't bullshit.


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