I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarwooooooHoooooo!.
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GravatarYer square, man.


GravatarI like 'em.


GravatarSo is this parody? Under recent changes:

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GravatarThey're unique? Creative? Don't sound like 9/10th's of the crap out there?

What more do you need?


GravatarNTodd--did the Kidz have Morning Cookiez today?


GravatarI have never heard of this outfit.

I just wish those damn kids would git offa my lawn!
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GravatarNTodd--did the Kidz have Morning Cookiez today?

Of course! We can't start our day without a morning pee followed by cookies.


GravatarAnd they put on a good show, from what I hear. They'll be on SNL tonight.


GravatarYou know, it took me awhile to get into "Funeral". I had it sitting in my stack of CDs for ages without giving it more than a cursory listening. A few weeks ago, I brought it to work and finally listened to it all the way through. Now I can't stop listening to it. I think it's majestic. But, hey, to each her own...


GravatarHiya Zap!!
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GravatarOh shit...that reminds me.

I've gotta buy my tix for Neko Case.


GravatarI just got a ticket for Neko on the local e-town taping in April.


GravatarUNE_7thTierEschatonian™,

Man. I know the economy's shit right now, but even YOU got demoted?

Luckily, I haven't looked at my Soros pay stub, so who knows what tier I'm at.


Gravataremo. got no time for young emo punks. Johnny Cash keeps me in all the classic emo I can stand.


GravatarIt's got a good beat and it's easy to dance to.


GravatarTo each his/her own.


GravatarNeko Case rocks.

I've also been listening to a lot of Kristy McColl lately.


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Einstien was a HEATHEN!!!


Gravatar emo. got no time for young emo punks. Johnny Cash keeps me in all the classic emo I can stand.

Arcade Fire ain't emo.

Sunny Day Real Estate's emo.


GravatarWhich once again raises the question nobody wants to ask: Why aren't tickets for popular rock shows more expensive? Not that these were cheap. They listed at $30 but once all the fees were included, it came out to $43.60 for mine. Still, even at that price, the whole show sold out literally within minutes. And that was totally predictable -- there's a reason we were all ready to click at exactly 10:01 AM on Saturday morning. Why not charge $75 a ticket? It's hard for me to think of any other area of the economy where businesses seem to leave this much money on the table. I guess I'm glad they do it this way (though I imagine some of the people who couldn't get tickets at $43.60 would've been glad to pay $50 to go to the show) but it seems odd.

WTF?

Asking for higher ticket prices, it seems to me, is just fucking insane.


GravatarIs it e-mo or e-mo?


GravatarBeing in rehab is HARD WORK:


http://www.comcast.net/music/ind.../23/ 594853.html


GravatarI've never heard of "Arcade Fire".

Are they some kind of new wave band or something?


GravatarHere is the first song that comes up on youtube, pretty catchy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...h? v=NNfWC4Sgkcs


GravatarAsking for higher ticket prices, it seems to me, is just fucking insane.

Actually, it would fit with a new music model where the content is distributed for free via MP3s and the revenue is generated by touring.


GravatarI don't know.

I thought Arcade Fire sounds a lot like a poorly produced Decembrist. I can tolerate most of Crane Wife, but the instrumentals drive me up a wall.


GravatarI've never heard of "Arcade Fire".

Are they some kind of new wave band or something?
smalfish


A fellow Eschatonian mentioned them a couple of weeks ago.

That was the first I'd heard of them.


GravatarI don't get many of the bands that the young whippersnappers like.

So don't feel bad.


GravatarActually, it would fit with a new music model where the content is distributed for free via MP3s and the revenue is generated by touring.

Ok. See, now this makes too much sense.

But it could never happen, because tours are sponsored by Barcadi and Budweiser and such, not the record companies. They all have to make a tremendous profit doncha know.


GravatarLuckily, I haven't looked at my Soros pay stub, so who knows what tier I'm at.

Crap, I ain't even getting a check let alone one of them fancy paystubs!


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GravatarDUH!

http://www.comcast.net/news/ stra...vqh=itn_teacher


Gravataremo. got no time for young emo punks. Johnny Cash keeps me in all the classic emo I can stand. jri

Heard this from some kidz hanging out downtown the other day. Teen girl to teen guy - "Where were you? Combing your hair for 10 minutes, you emo!"


GravatarThe Arcade Fire are fan-fucking-tastic. They're easily my favorite band at the moment and by far are the best of the indie scene. Funeral was stellar. Neon Bible is amazing.

Sorry, man but yeah- you're missing something quite good if you don't get into the Arcade Fire.


GravatarCrap, I ain't even getting a check let alone one of them fancy paystubs!

I get a bill every from Soros every month.


GravatarI thought Arcade Fire sounds a lot like a poorly produced Decembrist. I can tolerate most of Crane Wife, but the instrumentals drive me up a wall.


Now I know I'm an old fuck. This was almost all greek to me.


Of course, I con't listen to pop radio at all and have'nt for about ten years.


GravatarThey sound like one of those Very Important Bands.

Can't wait for the album where they discover the harpsichord or write an opera or something. And make big noises about how they're "changing the face of music."


GravatarRobert Pinsky on Cspan2 says the Simpsons is one of the best written shows in television history...


GravatarAsking for higher ticket prices, it seems to me, is just fucking insane.

Actually, it would fit with a new music model where the content is distributed for free via MP3s and the revenue is generated by touring.


Well, maybe so. Then again, maybe the band decided they don't want to price their fans out of tickets.


GravatarNTodd--I'm assuming that bill is filed under Shit I'm Going To Eventually Throw Out?


GravatarI fear we've been infiltrated by publicists...


GravatarThey're unique? Creative? Don't sound like 9/10th's of the crap out there?

So did Tiny Tim.


Gravatar4Legs--LateNightBabyPlush is awesome


GravatarNTodd--I'm assuming that bill is filed under Shit I'm Going To Eventually Throw Out?

I have, in fact, been cleaning for the 2nd weekend in a row. Mostly as avoidance behavior: I don't want to do some work I need to have done by COB Monday...


GravatarFrom the Urban Dictionary:

The concept of Emo is actually a vicious cycle that never ends, to the utter failing of humanity, and it goes something like this:

1. Girls say they like "sensitive guys" (lie)
2. Guy finds out, so he listens to faggy emo music and dresses like a dork so chicks will see that he is sensitive and not afraid to express himself (lie). He dyes his hair black, wraps himself in a stupid looking scarf, develops an eating disorder, and rants about how "nobody understands".
3. Now an emo guy, he meets Emo chick and they start dating, talking about how their well-off suburban lifestyles are terrible and depressing (lie)
4. Emo guy is just too much of a pussy. His penis is too small, he's too depressed to bathe, and has more mood swings than emo chick, and he doesn't even have a menstrual cycle. Emo chick dumps him, saying "It's not you, it's me." (lie) as she drives off with Wayne, the school jock and captain of the football team.
5. Emo guy goes home and cries, proceeds to write a weak song and strum a single string on his acoustic guitar. Another emo chick sees how he is so in touch with his feelings, and the cycle continues.


GravatarIs it e-mo or e-mo?
shrimplate | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 2:42 pm


Throatwarbler mangrove.


GravatarSo did Tiny Tim.

Midwestern Don Ho rip-off.


GravatarActually, it would fit with a new music model where the content is distributed for free via MP3s and the revenue is generated by touring.
NTodd, Stalker


Well, that certainly gave me pause, but I do think you're right.

That has been a successful model for a long time. Free samples usually are good for at least one purchase.


GravatarNTodd--if you need more excuses to avoid, I've got a house that could use your attention.


GravatarBut it could never happen, because tours are sponsored by Barcadi and Budweiser and such, not the record companies. They all have to make a tremendous profit doncha know.

The companies sponoring the tours aren't getting the profit, they're getting advertising out of it.

Which is the point of sponsoring the tours.


GravatarHow did Arcade Fire get this popular? They had to come under the wing of a promotional apparatus.


GravatarI feel very old.


GravatarWell, maybe so. Then again, maybe the band decided they don't want to price their fans out of tickets.

I'm just saying that's where a lot of indy artists and studios are headed. Maybe not super expensive tix, but people will generally pay a premium to see an act live, and to generate the interest you give away the recordings.


Gravatarartsy canadiens are very haute right now.

It's all about the live shows.


GravatarWell, I'm just excited that I figured out how to get pictures off my new cell phone without fooling with my carrier's picture service.

Woo hoo!!


GravatarI feel very old.

That would be paleo-emo.


GravatarActually, it would fit with a new music model where the content is distributed for free via MP3s and the revenue is generated by touring.

Traditionally, touring is a big fat money loser.

You can make money on the concessions - T-shirts, etc - if you control those.

Not saying it can't be done - the Dead did it - but in most cases, bands lose money.


GravatarNever heard of them. But I'm really old.


GravatarI feel very old.
watertiger


Imagine how I feel.

I'm older than you are.


GravatarHow did Arcade Fire get this popular? They had to come under the wing of a promotional apparatus.
kink | 02.24.07 - 2:51 pm

Word of mouth. I heard about them from a friend who heard about them from a friend who saw them at some music festival. That's what happens when you're a good band that makes catchy, interesting music.

And whoever, upthread, said that the Arcade Fire sounds like a poorly produced version of The Decembrists has thoroughly confused me. They don't sound anything alike. Not even a little bit.


GravatarThat would be paleo-emo.

"Neo" meaning "new" and "lithic" meaning . . .


GravatarMaddie, on the other hand, feels very young.

And spunky.


GravatarWe keep moving but the jack troll keeps following us.


Gravatarrock, stone, that hard stuff.


GravatarFirst I've heard of Arcade Fire, but I give them an appreciative nod. They at least put some effort into their showmanship, and the music I've heard isn't too bad. Maybe a bit too poppy, but not teh suck.


GravatarWell, I certainly feel older. When I was at Berk we'd go to Fillmore or Winterland and see Big Brother, Family Dog, Jeff Airplane, Cream, Pink Floyd, etc. etc. etc. for $2.00. There would usually be three bands on the bill.

A real splurge was going to Matrix to see the Doors for $4.00 a ticket.

The kicker is how outraged people were when Winterland raised the ticket price to $2.25 in the summer of '68.

Ah, Youth.


GravatarTraditionally, touring is a big fat money loser.

Um, yeah, which is why I said it's a new model.

You can make money on the concessions - T-shirts, etc - if you control those.

Again, that's part of the new model.

Barenaked Ladies are doing it, as are many indies.


GravatarWord of mouth.
That's not how it works. Somebody has to put money to work to push them.


GravatarI feel very old. watertiger

Old-shmold. I bet you could bounce a 19-year-old off your muscular butt.


GravatarCheck this story out. Republican congressman stands up for marriage equality:
You don’t stand alone, Wyoming Rep. Zwonitzer at Pandagon


Gravatar4Legs--that baby has grown a lot since you got her two weeks ago. She shows evidence of having a phenomenal slave.


GravatarSpeaking of 'fire'.... sci fi channel has a movie about fire tonight.

What do you think Sally? no eatage, but maybe some burnage.


GravatarThe Decembrists has thoroughly confused me. They don't sound anything alike.

Agreed. They more closely resemble an ultracrappy Echo and the Bunnymen.


GravatarI've always thought of emo as punk rock without distortion pedals.


GravatarThe companies sponoring the tours aren't getting the profit, they're getting advertising out of it.

Why do I get the feeling this is an urban myth?


Gravatar"Neo" meaning "new" and "lithic" meaning . . .

Ahem:

"...and 'lithic'...i...t...h...meaning stone..."


GravatarI bet you could bounce a 19-year-old off your muscular butt.

A 19 year-old holding a quarter!


GravatarMaddie, on the other hand, feels very young.

And spunky.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave


Love that little heart-shaped face of hers.

And big pretty eyes.


GravatarThe kicker is how outraged people were when Winterland raised the ticket price to $2.25 in the summer of '68.

Someone had to pay for all those onions you kids were wearing on your belts, which was the style at the time.


Gravatar4Legs--I'm willing to give burnage a shot, but there should be some bleedage and general disgustingness to make it worth our while.


Gravatar4Legs--that baby has grown a lot since you got her two weeks ago. She shows evidence of having a phenomenal slave.

Yeah, she's growing like weed and eating like a pirahna.

She's teh sweet though. She's taken to bringing her feather on a stick up on the bed with her.

I wake up to it next to my pillow each morning (where she sleeps, of course).


Gravatar"...and 'lithic'...i...t...h...meaning stone..."

heh.

knew you'd bite.


GravatarOld-shmold. I bet you could bounce a 19-year-old off your muscular butt.

No I feel old...


GravatarWord of mouth. I heard about them from a friend who heard about them from a friend who saw them at some music festival. That's what happens when you're a good band that makes catchy, interesting music.


If by "word of mouth," you mean "a marketing strategy that relied on strategic internet placement from people hired to sound like gushing fans," well, you're probably right.

BTW, am I the only guy that thinks that "Rebellion" number sounds like it was ripped off from the Jam's "That's Entertainment"?


GravatarA 19 year-old holding a quarter!

Is NTodd giving that as his age now?


Gravatarknew you'd bite.

Alternately, you could just tell me to bite you...


GravatarNeolithic means 'gardening with arrowheads'.


GravatarSomeone had to pay for all those onions you kids were wearing on your belts, which was the style at the time.

When I was your age, I had to wade barefoot through 3 miles of mud just to see Jimi Hendrix play!


GravatarCheck this story out. Republican congressman stands up for marriage equality:
You don’t stand alone, Wyoming Rep. Zwonitzer at Pandagon
virgotex


DAYUM - a Republican with a conscience and sense of fair play.

I suppose the GOP will make him pay dearly for his bravery.


GravatarWhen I was at Berk we'd go to Fillmore or Winterland and see Big Brother, Family Dog, Jeff Airplane, Cream, Pink Floyd, etc. etc. etc. for $2.00. There would usually be three bands on the bill.

A real splurge was going to Matrix to see the Doors for $4.00 a ticket.

The kicker is how outraged people were when Winterland raised the ticket price to $2.25 in the summer of '68.


Remember when Ticketron entered the picture?

"Why the fuck am I paying these guys 25 cents just to sell me a ticket!?!?!"


GravatarOf course, I con't listen to pop radio at all and have'nt for about ten years.
smalfish | 02.24.07 - 2:48 pm |


Of course, this is because ClearChannel and Radio One own everything, and everything sucks.

well, not these guys:

http://woxy.lala.com/

but 'commercial' radio sucks.


GravatarAll right!!

Neko tickets bought!! April 7th.


GravatarAlternately, you could just tell me to bite you...

where's the fun in that?


GravatarWhen I was your age, I had to wade barefoot through 3 miles of mud just to see Jimi Hendrix play!

Uphill, in the snow, fending off the wolves. It was hell, I tell ya'!


GravatarHow did Arcade Fire get this popular? They had to come under the wing of a promotional apparatus.

They got this popular because Funeral was a fucking outstanding debut that got hyped by indie-hitmaker Pitchfork Media.


GravatarAlternately, you could just tell me to bite you... NTodd

Either way, someone's jonesing.


GravatarWhen I was a kid, nickles had bumblebees on them. You would say "Give me 5 bees for a quarter!"


GravatarFirst thing I thought of when I saw the Arcade Fire video was The Dream Academy.


GravatarSo we've (The Wise Men) gone from thinking Bush will leave Iraq at some point and that's a good thing to thinking that Bush will not leave Iraq at some point and that's a good thing. I'm not sure that's progress, but at least we understand that Bush isn't leaving. - Atrios


Hey, it's all good. [/great-grandson (x 6) of Pangloss


GravatarAlternately, you could just tell me to bite you...

where's the fun in that?


Down and to the left a bit.


GravatarWhy do I get the feeling this is an urban myth?

What the hell are you talking about?

They put up some of the money for the tour and in return they get to put up massage signage at each event, plus run radio and teevee commercials with their name attached to the band's.....

As expensive as tours are to produce, I still imagine it's not worse than paying for a big teevee campaign.

Plus they get to market to a young, affluent crowd.


GravatarArcade Fire lives in a Northern town?


GravatarDown and to the left a bit.

This IS a tasty burger!

[/Jules]


GravatarOh noes! My Roomba ate itself! It needs some hardware repairs. Good thing I have another Roomba.


GravatarArcade Fire lives in a Northern town?

No, that's where Dream Syndicate lives.


GravatarI fear Roombas. They are evil.


GravatarWhen I was your age, I had to wade barefoot through 3 miles of mud just to see Jimi Hendrix play!

Uphill, in the snow, fending off the wolves. It was hell, I tell ya'!
-Dennis

School expulsion was really scary. They threw you out of the cave and you had to deal with the saber-tooth cats on your own.


GravatarWhen I was your age, I had to wade barefoot through 3 miles of mud just to see Jimi Hendrix play!

Uphill, in the snow, fending off the wolves. It was hell, I tell ya'!
-Dennis

School expulsion was really scary. They threw you out of the cave and you had to deal with the saber-tooth cats on your own.


GravatarOh noes! My Roomba ate itself!

How the fuck did it do that?


GravatarArcade Fire lives in a Northern town?

They're from a Big Country where dreams stay with you, like a lover's voice on a mountain side.


GravatarAh, that's it Dream Academy!


GravatarI think a roomba in my house would have a nervous breakdown, what with all the kitty toys and stuff.


GravatarIn my day, suitcases were called Sweedish Lunchboxes.

/Abe Simpson


GravatarThe Dream Academy

Better yet. Anyway you cut it Arcade sounds like a shoddy 80's rehash.


GravatarOh noes! My Roomba ate itself!

How the fuck did it do that?
fourlegsgood, kittenslave


It found a heavy string that it kept twisting around inside itself, trashed the side sweeping brush. Easy repair, I just need the parts.


GravatarThis IS a tasty burger!

[/Jules]
watertiger


"Check out the brain on Brad" is one of my favorite movie lines.


GravatarI submitted Maddie to Daily Kitten.

She's cuter than all those kittens, don't ya think?


GravatarSchool expulsion was really scary. They threw you out of the cave and you had to deal with the saber-tooth cats on your own.
bo


It was the giant sloths I feared - those suckers were dynamite!


GravatarAh, that's it Dream Academy!
Kid Charlemagne | 02.24.07 - 3:03 pm |


I hate that song, I hate that group. You must die!


GravatarThey're from a Big Country where dreams stay with you, like a wetspot on a mountain side.

fixed yur typo


GravatarJust watched the promotional video someone linked to upthread. Too staged for my old eyes--in a Children of the Damned sense. And I like to be able to understand the words if someone is saying words. I could only catch every fourth of fifth word. Maybe I'm really too old and my hearing is going.


GravatarOh noes! My Roomba ate itself!

I predicted that Pop will eat itself, and I was proved fucking right!


GravatarNow that I've figured out my cell phone, I just need to find me some birdy sound ring tones.


GravatarOh noes! My Roomba ate itself!

It's the Nantucket model?


GravatarSpeaking of Dream Academy, has Atrios ever linked to My Morning Jacket?

My Morning Jacket is one of the best young bands around. They're the next Wilco. Check out the song "The Way That He Sings" and listen for the echoes of Dream Academy's "Life in a Northern Town."


Gravatar"She's cuter than all those kittens, don't ya think?"
--fourlegsgood,

She is the cutest kitten I've ever seen.


GravatarAnd I like to be able to understand the words if someone is saying words.

I used to think that too before I heard MVB, Lush, etc.


Gravatar"Check out the brain on Brad" is one of my favorite movie lines.

Got do use that in class a little while back. Dude named Brad said something (surprisingly) smart. Everybody laughed, including Brad (and he didn't even fuck me on evals).


GravatarI submitted Maddie to Daily Kitten.

She's cuter than all those kittens, don't ya think?
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 3:04 pm |


Oh, yes. She's a heartbreaker, in a good sense.


GravatarMBV that is


GravatarThe 1980s song I can't get out of my head is Icehouse by Icehouse.


Gravatarmp3 birdsongs:

http://www.natuurgeluid.nl/opnamen.htm


GravatarBesides, everyone knows Margo Timmins is the only Canuck that matters.


GravatarIt was the giant sloths I feared - those suckers were dynamite! - Dennis

If they sat on you, it was all over. You were the wet spot on the mountain side. Thank god they were so slow.


GravatarI just realized that almost everything on my iPod is from the mid-90's. I've got the Amps, Air Miami, and all sorts of stuff that made a big splash on college radio around that time.

As far as newer bands, the Walkmen rock!!


GravatarAs far as newer bands, the Walkmen rock!!

What's a Walkman?


GravatarIt's the Nantucket model?

There once was a 'bot from Nantucket...


GravatarSpeaking of Dream Academy, has Atrios ever linked to My Morning Jacket?

Countdown to NTodd's "My Morning Jackoff" ref....


GravatarHow they ensure compliance. She probably was too loud and ambitious, after all.


GravatarThe 1980s song I can't get out of my head is Icehouse by Icehouse.
puppethead | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 3:07 pm | #


I like No Promises:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h?v=SyBif6w- SiY


GravatarNTodd,

Great Brad story. Glad he was cool enough not to dick you on evals.


GravatarWhat's a Walkman?
NTodd, Stalker


Gitcher pants outta yer ears.

Men!! Walkmen.

(I know)


GravatarMargo Timmins... Sexiest voice evar.
Well, except for Chrissy Hynde, and Toni Halliday.


Gravatar"Check out the brain on Brad" is one of my favorite movie lines.

Samuel Jackson can make crap sound good.

To wit: Star Wars.


GravatarApropos of nothing, I have to think that there was, is, or should be, a drag queen rock band named "Jethro Tulle"


GravatarCountdown to NTodd's "My Morning Jackoff" ref....

Great, steal my thunder, motherfucker.


Gravatarmp3 birdsongs:

http://www.natuurgeluid.nl/opnamen.htm


Okay, so how do I get them into my ringtones?

I found a couple I liked on the Samsung website, but they don't have ones that work on my phone.

Spring doesn't have birdie ones either. A friend of mine has a ring tone that sounds like a flock of little birdies chirping and twittering.

It's the most cheerful sound ever.


GravatarYou want sexy? How about Jenny Lewis or Leslie Feist? Rawwwr.


GravatarI like No Promises

But gawd, the 1980s look. In Icehouse they have more of a Gary Neuman look. You know, Cars.


GravatarWhat's a Walkman?
NTodd, Stalker


My housemate in undergrad had one in 1980. First one on the block, the rich fucker. I had to cut him.


GravatarThe 1980s song I can't get out of my head is Icehouse by Icehouse.

And now your old world is gone for dead?


GravatarIranian Foreign minister says US is too overtaxed to attack them now.


Gravatar"The Army's highest-ranking officer said Friday that he was unsure whether the U.S. military would capture or kill Osama bin Laden, adding, "I don't know that it's all that important, frankly."

"So we get him, and then what?" asked Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, the outgoing Army chief of staff, at a Rotary Club of Fort Worth luncheon. "There's a temporary feeling of goodness, but in the long run, we may make him bigger than he is today.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to why it "emboldens the enemy" in Iraq to say we're going to require that troops we send there have adequate armor and training, but it's "bold leadership" to say we just don't really care all that much about eliminating bin Laden?"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...2/24/13123/ 3419


GravatarIn Icehouse they have more of a Gary Neuman look. You know, Cars.

I'm getting all nostalgic for the music videos with production costs of $3.78.

Flock of Seagulls and their aluminum foil-covered camera...


GravatarI like No Promises

But gawd, the 1980s look. In Icehouse they have more of a Gary Neuman look. You know, Cars.
puppethead | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 3:12 pm


Well, yes, the 80's videos often looked terrible, but they still sound good!


GravatarSpeaking of the brain on Brad, Pulp Fiction as typography is awesome.


Gravatar80's? She Drives Me Crazy


GravatarAtrios,

Who's telling you that you should link to Arcade Fire?

Pundits? Wags??


GravatarThat reminds me - I heard someone at a concert saying that Gary Numan is a raging wingnut. Anyone heard that?


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!========


GravatarMargo Timmins... Sexiest voice evar.
Well, except for Chrissy Hynde, and Toni Halliday.
cabazon


I am old.

I would have given that title to Nina Simone.


Gravatar"Israel seeks all clear for Iran air strike
By Con Coughlin in Tel Aviv
Last Updated: 3:31pm GMT 24/02/2007



Cheney step the rhetoric against Iran
American armada prepares to take on Iran
Con Coughlin: Ready for war
Vicki Woods: Iraq inquiry could stop Iran war
In pictures: On board the USS Eisenhower
Audio: Damien McElroy on the deck of the US flagship
Israel is negotiating with the United States for permission to fly over Iraq as part of a plan to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

To conduct surgical air strikes against Iran's nuclear programme, Israeli war planes would need to fly across Iraq. But to do so the Israeli military authorities in Tel Aviv need permission from the Pentagon."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...24/ wiran124.xml


GravatarThe 80's was all poufy hairstyles and headbands and heavy eye makeup. And the women did weird shit, too.


GravatarTMBG yielded to no one in the arena of low tech high concept.


GravatarSheets and all


Gravatarowls wearing fatigues and big shoulder pads.


GravatarThe 80's was all poufy hairstyles and headbands and heavy eye makeup. And the women did weird shit, too

Some good music though - Smiths, Clash, X, Siouxsie, U2(pre-Joshua)...


GravatarThe Arcade Fire has some good tunes (like their big hit off Funeral, whatsitcalled, "Rebellion"), and the reputation of their live sets is stellar (I am too old and cranky to go out and see for myself).

They do not sound like Echo & the Bunnymen, either. Not even a little bit. However, those Echo records hold up pretty freaking well twenty-five years later. I liked the Arcade Fire's CD, but I'm not sure they'll sound as good in a quarter century.


GravatarFUCK!!!!


The fucking wind just blew my fucking solar panels off the fucking roof.


GravatarLollapaloosa: Siouxie and the Banshees, Ice-T doing "Cop-Killer," Jane's Addiction, the Henry Rollins Band, Jesus and Mary Chain, the Butthole Surfers, Ministry, Lush, Nine Inch Nails, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Ice Cube, Mudhoney doing "Cop Killer" a year after Ice-T withdrew it...

Now he plays one on TV.


GravatarDivine Strake
The Pentagon has abandoned plans for a massive test explosion in the Nevada desert, the first time a mushroom cloud would have been seen near Las Vegas since a nuclear test in the 1960s, officials said on Thursday.

The detonation of conventional explosives had been designed to test the effectiveness of weapons against deep underground targets but critics had expressed concern that dust containing background radiation could be spread into the air.

The test, dubbed "Divine Strake," had been scheduled to take place last year over a tunnel at the U.S. Energy Department's Nevada Test Site, about 65 miles northwest of Las Vegas.

But it was postponed indefinitely in May after the National Nuclear Security Administration said it was withdrawing its finding that the detonation of 700 tons of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil would cause no significant environmental impact.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20070...7HumYC81o_mWMcF


GravatarNerds with off-brand guitars, look-at-me attitudes and mediocre songs do not great bands make. These youngsters need to pick up "Music from Big Pink" by the Band, cook up some good weed, then spend a couple months writing some decent songs.


GravatarStart with the track 'Cold Wind' from Six Feet Under. Listen to how different instruments ease in to voice the melody.

http://hypem.com/search/cold%20wind/1/

For those going to see Neko Case, I'm sad to say what a disappointment she is live. Zero charisma from her or her band, awful lighting. She sounds as clear as a bell with that epic voice, but the show is best enjoyed with eyes closed.


GravatarThis "Arcade Fire" must be some new blog. Must check it out sometime.


GravatarOh god. Self-important pop music. Excuse me while I go wash out my ears with some nice, fun Rhapsody of Fire.
(A metal band that can get Christopher Lee to sing on their albums as a character called Erian the Wizard is +100 geek points automatically, and a good counter to any friend's insistence on introducing you to boring-ass Important Music.)


GravatarSomething is boiling in the underground


GravatarSomethings boiling, but it may not smell so good.


GravatarThey sound just like so many other indie bands these days.

TV on the Radio is the band to link.


Gravatarsez a guy who likes that caterwauling fraud M Ward....


GravatarSaw Neko Case last night at Lincoln Center. She performed in front of a giant glass wall facing Columbus Circle and the SW corner of Central Park and put on an amazing show with a nice mix of old and new songs.

Not sure where the zero charisma comment comes from . . . perhaps you caught her on a bad night.

I also got my hands on the new Arcade Fire album and fans won't be dissapointed while haters may find it more appealing.


Gravataryou are...missing something that is...

saw 'em at a small club in cleveland just before they became widely known...for 6 bucks. they were fantastic...


GravatarArcade Fire reminds me of The Damned. Huzzah!


GravatarThey sure have a lot of personnel to make such
stiff, simple music. Must be a union shop.


GravatarCacophonous, yet dissonant.


GravatarLove Arcade Fire.
just do.


GravatarAnybody here like Broken Social Scene music?


GravatarNerds with off-brand guitars, look-at-me attitudes and mediocre songs do not great bands make. These youngsters need to pick up "Music from Big Pink" by the Band, cook up some good weed, then spend a couple months writing some decent songs.
Lush Rimbaud | 02.24.07 - 3:31 pm | #

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Love 'the basement tapes' too but still love arcade fire.


GravatarHoly Hell, that is still way too much for a show, please, you can have more fun at a no cover show really.


GravatarI love 'Life in a Northern Town' too.


Do I dislike anything? I hate the fucking Who.


GravatarTiny Tim was a fixture in Greenwich Village in the early 60s. He surely must be what Greil Marcus (Marcus Greil?) spoke of when he referred to music from 'the old weird America.'


GravatarHow they ensure compliance. She probably was too loud and ambitious, after all.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 02.24.07 - 3:08 pm | #

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like Hillary Clinton dissing Code Pink before the war began.


GravatarArcade Fire - there is no there there. But that doesnt mean they wont be huge - basically people will do as they're told and follow the crowd as usual.


GravatarTrying to "explain" one's preference for this rock band over that band is almost impossible to do logically. Ultimately, it comes down to what moves you. The Arcade Fire move me because their music pounds with energy, because they make the personal (deaths of family members) deeply resonant and universal, and because they have a sound that kicks ass on an iPod. Beyond that, I really couldn't say.


GravatarI just happened to stumble on "Funeral" in my CD pile and hadn't listened to it in a while. It is really outstanding! Awesome stuff.


GravatarYou are missing something. The Arcade Fire is one of the best new bands to come out in a long time, a very long time.


GravatarI'm with you, Duncan. I downloaded Funeral and listened to it several times. Nice, but what's the big deal? I think part of their appeal is that, like Polyphonic Spree, the fact that they have a bunch o' members and play non-electronic instruments somehow makes them cool with a capital C. And the lyrics, like so many from the last thirty years, use a sort of homespun surrealism to mask their frequently lazy nature (I'm looking at you, Michael Stipe). These goddam kids today...


GravatarNo, I totally don't get them either. I'm just not metro enough


GravatarArcade Fire is sooo 2005, a one-hit wonder with "Rebellion (Lies)", a fine song, but still...

Try The Kooks if you want a hot new British indie band. Their 2006 debut record, Inside In/Inside Out, is smoking hot, with the songs "Sofa Song," "Eddie's Gun," "Ooh La," "She Moves in Her Own Way," "You Don't Love Me, and "Naive" all being superb.

It's probably one of the best debut British records since Definitely, Maybe by Oasis and Parachutes by Coldplay.


GravatarI'm not surprised considering the musical dreck I usually see youtubed here.


GravatarRadiohead


GravatarA friend asked me what The Kooks "sound" like; I told her, imagine if Herman's Hermits had Thin Lizzy as their backing band.

Yikes. Too cool.


GravatarI continue to love the Arcade Fire no matter how many hipsters claim to love them.

When I first heard 'Wake Up' (Funeral) ('our bodies get bigger but our hearts get torn up') a couple of years ago, I almost fell out. It actually prompted me to write a blog post titled something like "I've been listening to shit for 30 years". I thought it was the greatest song evah. And then I listened to 'Rebellion (Lies)' (Funeral) and thought that was the best song ever.

And then came the moment I realized this band was on another level. I heard 'Neighborhood #2 (Laika)' (Funeral). I liked the anger and emotion. And then I found out Laika was a damn dog they shot into outer space to die. And I started to get the metaphor. And I was like 'dyamn'. And then I knew I was right when I heard the lyrics say:

When daddy comes home, you always start a fight
So the neighbors can dance in the police disco lights


What an image.

In other words, if you are appalled by energy and passion in your music, definitely stay away from the band that the hipsters just can't seem to get enough of.



GravatarJesus, some of you guys sound old and dismissive. It *is* still possible to sincerely like a band, you know. I don't really give a flying f*** about how cool it is to be a fan of Arcade Fire, I just really really like Funeral.

Anyway, at the last NY show last week, the lead singer commented:

"So, are you guys really gonna vote for Rudy Giuliani?"

(boos from the crowd)

"OK. I don't know, the other night some people here were saying, 'Wooo, Giuliani's gonna win New York'! and I was like... really? OK.. I guess.'"

Later on in the show, after introducing the band:

"And I'm former mayor Rudy Giuliani. No one was mugged on the way here because of me. There are no unsavory types in this crowd because of me."

Does that help?


Gravatar"Intervention" is the greatest song ever since the last greatest song ever!

I'd put Arcade Fire in the same place I put The Decemberists, Sufjan Stevens, Ted Leo, and Death Cab... damn good indie rock. That being said, I haven't been able to get Arcade Fire tickets. As for Decemberists tickets... :-D


GravatarRe: Arcade Fire, I am a fan!


GravatarCompetent singing, competent playing, competent songs

But seriously, why the buzz?

Frank Zappa crapped bigger than that.


GravatarWhew -- talk about overrated. Zappa seems like he was a very nice man and progressive politically, but c'mon, with Van Vliet/Beefheart working at the same time, what was the point of Zappa?

Oasis and Coldplay? Talk about backhanded compliments. I am liking AF less and less every moment. Anyone want to pay up for my Oasis LPs? Original vinyl, kids. Practically unplayed. You know you want them.

Really -- go pay $2 for each of Echo & the Bunnymen's first four LPs, and for less than the price of a CD you can die happy. Plus, you can stop wondering if Oasis is any good. A hint: no.

There is such a thing as objective quality in art. The problem is with the audience.


Gravatarthey're the only band doing a semi-accurate New Order ripoff these days. i think thats pretty much it.


GravatarThe problem is that AF are faux original (and that goes double for The Decemberists). There's really very little substance to their music; it's just fairly regular Rock with a different timbre and aesthetic.

Once you've heard the first verse and chorsu of almost any one of their repetitive songs, you've pretty much heard it all. There will be few surprises or revelations in the remaining minutes, and in this they are like most bands who stay with the entirely arbitrary bounds of Rock music.

There are a myriad chords, meters, sequences, melodies and structures that are virtually unexplored, yet these bands keep plugging away trying to refine a formula so tapped it's been running dry for 20 years. It's time to understand that this kind of retrograde musical orthodoxy is neither new nor groundbreaking, no matter how you drsess it up.

Luckily, there's the internet for those of us who can be bothered to find actual innovators.


Gravatar"It's probably one of the best debut British records since Definitely, Maybe by Oasis and Parachutes by Coldplay."

Thanks, now I know to stay away.


GravatarYour loss, everyone.


GravatarAlso, they're Canadian, not British.


GravatarZappa seems like he was a very nice man and progressive politically, but c'mon, with Van Vliet/Beefheart working at the same time, what was the point of Zappa?

WTF? Beefheart put out a couple of brilliant (very quirky) albums. Then he just sort of buggered off into oblivion.

He and Zappa actually worked together on a couple of Zappa's albums (Hot Rats and especially Bongo Fury).

The depth and breadth of FZ's music is absolutely astonishing. R&B, rock, blues, jazz and classical - all done with his special brand of sarcasm and social satire.

What was the point of Zappa?

Are you fucking nuts? That's like asking what was the point of Charlie Parker.

You have missed the plot.


GravatarI love Arcade Fire. I have two sons in college and they keep me up to date with indie music and I never listen to corporate radio.

Arcade Fire's Funeral album is stunning. I've played it for two years and never tire of it. Now that I've heard Neon Bible, I'll be listening to that one for another two. It's goosebump music. Arcade Fire sings and plays from the heart with energy and emotion. If you don't get that, then it's your loss.

They were awesome on SNL last night, too.


GravatarActually, donnah, they sucked on SNL. Noisy, crappy song, duct-taped words on an acoustic guitar, some numb-nut singing through a bullhorn, and on and on. Then the head Fireman smashes his guitar. LOOK AT ME, please.?.?. Next time we see these posuers, they'll have shaved their heads and entered rehab. Write some songs and practice your guitar. Don't just smash it, you moron.


GravatarOoh, Lush, you're so grumpy!

The band is powerful and animated; that doesn't mean they can't have a good time on TV. They lit up the stage, goofy or not.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to listen to them. I'm just glad to see them play.


GravatarI, the great and grumpy El Lushbo, will allow you to like the Arcade Firepeople. I however, will take my good taste elsewhere. Good day, madame.


GravatarDude, you like Gogol Bordello. 'Nuff said. The Arcade Fire are amazing. Saw them open up for David Byrne in '05 at the Hollywood Bowl and it was jaw-droppingly good.


GravatarThis from a man who cannot let go of Gogol Bordello, which is only the band with the most pretentious fan base this side of "Evangelicals for U2"?

Go back to bed, Dr Black.


GravatarWhat you talkin 'bout? Arcade Fire is a great indie band. Not that there aren't better bands out there, but they have a unique sound that makes them fun to listen to. No? Well that alright.


GravatarThanks, now I know to stay away.

Please stay away, you pretentious dipshit.


GravatarArcade Fire are horrible.


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