I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
It would be wildly stupid for me to get into a pissing match by naming names. I won't go there.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
A.
Yesterday I expressed my political opinions to about 176,000 people.
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com
And it was fun!
I find faith disturbing.
Atrios keeps Joe Klein in the media.
Or so I hear.
faith, schmaith! Show me evidence!
Atrios, your smugness is killing me!
Jeebuz, Klein is so transparent on that one, each point is easily taken apart.
Dude, we were all over that yesterday. You are slow.
Atrios keeps me in the blogosphere.
Fuck Joe Klein with my rusty chainsaw.
I mean, whatever, it's not that nobody's ever said this shit, it's that nobody knew who the fuck Ward Churchill even WAS before the Freeptards started in about it. Whereas the right's extremists are all over CNN.
They're false comparisons. Also, why make a post like that at all unless something specific's set you off?
Joe Klein is made of FAIL.
A.
Atrios keeps me in bonbons.
No kweschen.
Atrios keeps me in bondage.
klein's journalism sucks cock
Atrios keeps me awake at night with his soft crooning.
Hey all. Just got back from the hospital again. My wife (31 weeks pregnant) hemorraged really badly. We had to get an ambulance, the bleeding has stopped. She is going to be in the hospital until she delivers.
I need a hug.
Although Klein does get it correct with this one...
--believes that corporations are fundamentally evil.
We've been waiting for Exxon to pay for how long over the Valdez grounding?
Bastards are just waiting for the fishermen to die off.
Let's see if Klein takes on the challenge of dealing with right wing extremist Ann Coulter's recent "joke". I've yet to see any MSM attention to that, much less apologies and criticism from the Right. Ain't holding my breath, either.
Amy Tan is going to be in town doing something, I forget what.
Klein's journalism is a faggot.
NTodd, Kimchiaschuro in Italian Renaissance painting.
Let's see if Klein takes on the challenge of dealing with right wing extremist Ann Coulter's recent "joke".
Oh, he did. He posted a one-liner with a link to a story. Called the post "Right wing extremist" or some such. Very brave.
/breakfast related program activitudes
Atrios keeps me in bondage.
NTodd, Terminally Smug
Bondage, huh?
Then I'll bring ya some kimchee.
NTodd, Kimchiaschuro in Italian Renaissance painting.
In a nice madeira sauce.
ok, someone has to rewrite his list for right wing nut jobs
i feel the same way about joe klein that i do about ann coulter and the rest of the gang... why waste bandwidth...? there's much more important things to be outraged over than what these fools have to say...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
trifecta: here's your hug.
Virtual hugs are weak, though.
stinkin' latte drinkin' welfare queens!
Well, I hope JoeK lein reads his comments section. It should be enlightening to him. It won't, but it should be.
HAH! she laughed derisively.
"You can never heal a heart, but you can provide comfort knowing that the federal government will provide help for those whose houses were destroyed or automobiles were destroyed," the president told Mayor Kenneth Boswell after the aerial tour.
Automobiles?
{{{{{{{{trifecta!}}}}}}}}
If readers would like, I'll give you my definition of right-wing extremism next week.
Why didn't he include it in this post?
And Atrios, stop with the smug rhetoric already.
I need a hug.
trifecta
Too far away to hug, but, you got my best wishes.
*Many Hugs*, trifecta.
Damn it.
I'm so sorry, trifecta.
Big hugs from my corner.
ok, someone has to rewrite his list for right wing nut jobs
I did for stupid pundits, but got moderated.
oh, pregnancy complications are faggots.
Just saying.
believes that America isn’t really a democracy.
As the wingers constantly remind us, America is a Republic. Please direct your insults at them.
"You can never heal a heart." See Cheney, Darth.
trifecta, hope your wife and the baby are OK. I was telling everybody earlier this morning, my cousin's wife just had twins yesterday-rough pregnancy, and a C-section, but her and the babies are well, which is the important thing.
Dear Democrat Congressperson:
We put you in power so that you would end Bush’s Wars. Instead you are endorsing his plan. More hundreds of billions and more lives lost will be the result. You say that will show your support for the troops, but we think it will show your support for the oil companies and the military contractors who contribute to your campaign, while our troops continue to die.
We the liberal Democrat majority will no longer be taken for granted by the corporate conservative minority of big money Democrats who have taken over our former party of the people. This message is your notice that millions of us will be defecting to the Green Party as of today.
Signed
your name
Switch2Green.org
Check out Holy Joe's mug shot.
A picture really does say a thousand words...some of them even smug ones.
Best to trifecta and family.
NTodd, Kimchiaschuro in Italian Renaissance painting.
NTodd, Kimchifforobe, in the dressing room.
They should change the name of this blog to the Joe Klein blog.
Joe 24/7!
More Joe, please.
For the thread below: Why the fuck does Ann Coulter still have a syndicated column? Isn't it time we started a push to get her shitcanned once and for all? She can earn a cvomfortable living getting paid to speak at conservative and Republican events across the country. There's n reason, however, she desrves to have a fucking syndicated column run in hundreds of newspapers across the country.
As much as we criticize the media, Coulter's appearanbces on the tv news and cable outlets (Fox excepted) has been rather sparse of late.
Even Chris Matthews hasn't invited her back. So. let's take the bitch out, once and for all.
trifecta - good vibes.
WTF, Bush just did a Marine Sanctuary.
In the middle of the Pacific?
I need a hug.
Ai-yah!!! Hugs, trifecta!
The recently fired Secretary of the Army Francis Harvey--the epitome of who the Bushies believe is the best and brightest to head up an organization--A CORPORATIST.
The majority of Harvey's career has been spent with corporations that provided products and services to the federal government, particularly the United States Department of Defense, and included a year of government service. He was formerly CEO of the IT Group, a defense contractor. He has been involved in over 20 major defense programs across the entire spectrum from undersea to outer space, including tanks, missiles, submarines, surface ships, aircraft and satellites. In addition, he was a member of the Army Science Board in the late 1990s, traveling to numerous U.S. Army installations, and participated in early studies that helped define the Future Combat System. Harvey also served for one year as a White House Fellow and assistant in the immediate office of the Secretary of Defense, Harold Brown, in the late 1970s.
Thanks all.
We put you in power so that you would end Bush’s Wars. Instead you are endorsing his plan.
Not even close, ye of little faith and fake homepages.
WTF, Bush just did a Marine Sanctuary.
Laura Bush, in Hawaii.
"smug rhetoric?" what the hell is he talking about. he can't just say he fucked up and leave it at that. he's a mole.
Dear Democrat Congressperson:
Hmmm...something doesn't sound right...
Shorter Atrios:
The more I mentioon Joe's name, the more likely it is he'll mention mine..... and I crave the attention!
Dear Dimwit,
The Green Party has been an effective political force in certain countries -- just not this one.
Buh-bye!
Trifecta, many, many thoughts directed your way. My wife was on bed rest for the last month or so of her pregnancy with our first -- would have been longer but he was a premie -- and it is very hard. So, thoughts and wishes directed your and your wife's way.
Sorry for you, trifecta. If it helps, my wife spent the last 5 months of both pregnancies abed just to keep them. Both our girls are healthy and happy today.
It's fearful, but it can come out fine. i stand witness.
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Ive fawlen
and I CANT Get UP!
G8r you may bite my crank. Thank you very much.
Laura Bush, in Hawaii.
watertiger
Well, she was there, but he had to sign the papers.
How fucking weird, he cares about the Albatross.
For the thread below: Why the fuck does Ann Coulter still have a syndicated column?
So Terry Jeffery can let Human Events slide farther into the abyss?
I just read that. Joe3 is the junior high kid stuck in externalism. All of his problems to him are caused by something outside of his own behavior and opinions. Always.
Can't do anything for externalizers until they understand that they suffer from a basic perception issue. Externalizing children are the most difficult kids to help because in their mind, they are always correct. When reality disagrees, they still think they are correct and they think they are just misunderstood.
If Joe were in 7th grade I would recommend that his parents seek professional help ASAP.
Meanwhile, did I mention...
Fuck homophobes (these like to beat women) and
Fuck homophobes (these like to falsify elections). Oh, and
Fuck homophobes (this one just doesn't mind people dying).
Joe Klein is a weenie. This is a weenie roast.
--doesn’t believe that capitalism, carefully regulated and progressively taxed, is the best liberal idea in human history.
Personally I believe the idea that all men are created equal is the best liberal idea in human history. But capitalism, with moderate regulation and progressive taxation, that's pretty good too. Am I still a left wing extremist?
How fucking weird, he cares about the Albatross.
He has one around his neck, named Iraq.
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What an extraordinarily ignorant list by Klein. In a great number of the items just substitute George Bush and the current administration for America.
And show me a post where Atrios disses regulated and progressively taxed capitalism..I fear Klein has no idea of either what constitutes regulation or progressive taxation.
Hereafter he will be known to me as the little man..after the English translation of his name.
WTF, Bush just did a Marine Sanctuary.
A place for Marines to hide if they don't want to go back to Iraq?
maybe hippies used to steal his lunch money?
those are the beliefs of a fifth rate walt kelly wannabe who should return to being annonymous
Personally I believe the idea that all men are created equal is the best liberal idea in human history. But capitalism, with moderate regulation and progressive taxation, that's pretty good too. Am I still a left wing extremist?
Low Information Voter | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:26 am | #
Regulation? Progressive taxation?
Sorry. You're a commie. Up against the wall.
Jeebus, Joek Line learns more slowly than a Toddler.
Duncan is aking a point about how you make stuid-ass, unsupportable statements based uypon your bias and worldview that are not backed up by reality.
He's saying, stop it. That's all.
Stop taking out of yur ass, Joe. Or admit your biases, and stop pretending you're an objective observer, or that you respresent the "mainstream," when clearly you don't.
Laura Bush, in Hawaii.
watertiger
She'll meet Don Ho.
Or as she knows him:
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It is so wonderful he came down here. It shows he really cares so much.
- Enterprise, AL resident on Bush's visit
Or as she knows him:
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attaturk
She's bi?
--doesn’t believe that capitalism, carefully regulated and progressively taxed, is the best liberal idea in human history.
Now offering rewards for any Joe Klein articles praising corporate regulation and/or progressive corporate taxation. (Note: articles against regulation and/or progressive taxation will be subtracted from articles for them, until a final total is reached.)
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It is so wonderful he came down here. It shows he really cares so much.
- Enterprise, AL resident on Bush's visit
Snow | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:28 am | #
Are you sure the resident was talking about Bush and not Jeebus?
maybe hippies used to steal his lunch money?
The hot hippie girls wouldn't fuck him.
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Tiny Bubbles!
Abu Gonzalez says "Fuck you" to Congress.
Other Enterprise resident: "But why is my kid still dead?"
All right!
The Ratter has arrived and removed the immediate offense, and will return to deal with the attic issue later this morning.
I can get to the coffee now!
He has one around his neck, named Iraq.
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Cynicus
That, and he is used to talking to ducks, or whatever language Cheney speaks.
A relentlessly centrist mainstream extremist like Joe Klein believes not some but all of the following:
--That leftists are a force for ill in the country and the world
-- That liberals who say stupid things speak for liberalism whereas conservatives who say stupid things speak only for themselves
-- That the War in Iraq had nothing to do with imperialism
-- that people like Joe Lieberman who push conventional beltway thinking are courageous
-- that all anger except his own is bad
-- that pols who argee with him are well-intentioned whereas those who disagree with him act with malice
--- that there's nothing braver than telling the base what it doesn't want to hear even if what is said is conventional corporate-approved blather
-- that to point out the problems with capitalism is to be a Marxist
-- that his lack of getting laid in the sixities means the entire era was bad
-- that his self-loathing isn't painfully apparent to everyone.
She'll meet Don Ho.
Or as she knows him:
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00011001110001110101010010001110010
attaturk
She's bi?
driftglass | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:29 am | #
There are 10 kinds of people...
Hugs to you, trifecta
Are you sure the resident was talking about Bush and not Jeebus?
No Jeebus involved. Although at the end, she did say God promised to get them all through it.
Some Left Wing Extremist (LWE) with glaring red eyes and intense body odor is sure to use Klein's list as a purity test.
There are 10 kinds of people...
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot
I know both of em...
david mizner-that's a great list. You should post it at his blog, if you haven't already.
Time for somebody to make a list of traits for middle-of-the-road extremists like joe.
I'll start: A MOR extremist is more conscerned about residing in the position of middle as opposed to what the position of middle actually represents.
It is the location that is most important as opposed to the substance of the position to these fine fellows.
Dear Democrat [sic ] Congressperson:
When brownshirts pose as greenshirts ...
NY Times. Guiliani's kids hates his guts and won't campaign for him.
Although at the end, she did say God promised to get them all through it.*
*Except for the ones He let die.
They may not post it, but this was my reply:
hey joe, i guess i'm a your worst bad-dream, a true, dyed-in-the-wool, longtime, rabid left-wing extremist...i was in the streets in 1970, too, and i STILL detest Kissinger, Nixon, and the gutless 'moderate' enablers like you, you fucking wanker...
fuck you, Joke...
Although at the end, she did say God promised to get them all through it.*
*Except for the ones He let die.
plantsman, nutcase | 03.03.07 - 10:32 am | #
It's just a different kind of "through."
And, now having a moment not pre-occupied with terminating vermin, let me say that paid shills who are reduced to making lists of something or another have reached the end of their useful careers. The 'making of lists' is something that actual columnists are forced into doing at Christmas or New Year's or for the Oscars - it's regarded as the hackiest work of all.
Dear Joe - there are two kinds of people in this world....
*Except for the ones He let die.
Yeah. Thems is shit out of luck.
I'll leave you with one parting thought:
NTodd-Kimchihuahua in Paris Hilton's pocketbook.
Correction:: Sean Hannity is a ideological extremist and a bully. Atrios may or may not be an ideological extremist--I was wrong to say he was, since I don't know enough about him--but he sure is a purveyor of extreme and terminally smug rhetoric.
What. The. Fuck.
I am extremely angry at Atrios as well: for inducing me to click that link.
Alas, if Mr. Mizner attempts to publish his fine words on Klein's blog, i predict the Keyser Soza effect. ("And like that - poof! - he's gone.")
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Last time a Bush showed up in Hawaii, a motorcycle cop was killed doing escort duty.
Wonder if Laura will want one to lie down so she can drive over him, just to keep her count ahead of Shrub?
-believes that eternal problems like crime and poverty are the primarily the fault of society.
good editing job!
Damn it - took too long to type with 2 digits and now a 10 finger typist said the same damn thing only faster.
Fuck my 8th grade keyboarding teacher with an IBM Selectric.
Lumpy, learn to hula, complete with all the attendant hand signals that send erotic love messages to those watching.
*Except for the ones He let die.
Yeah. Thems is shit out of luck.
I mean she seemed to not think too much about them. Only her poor distraught daughter who had already left the school before the tornado attacked.
*Except for the ones He let die.
Yeah. Thems is shit out of luck.
No, they inherited the Earth.
They just didn't read the fine print.
"Yo quiero Heelton Bell!"
This is rather pathetic:
“There’s obviously a little problem that exists between me and his wife,” the younger Mr. Giuliani said. “And we’re trying to figure that out. But as of right now it’s not working as well as we would like.”
Andrew Giuliani said he would not participate in his father’s campaign, saying his devotion to becoming a professional golfer within three years allows no time for distraction.
The estrangement and the "I'm too busy trying to be Tiger Woods" excuse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/0...gin&
oref=slogin
I think all the people described in Joe Klein's list perished in the Acid Wars.
There may be a few left in Vancouver.
Joe Klein lost all credibility the day his mama named him Anonymous. Why anybody listens to him after that bullshit is beyond my comprehension.
Andrew Giuliani said he would not participate in his father’s campaign, saying his devotion to becoming a professional golfer within three years allows no time for distraction.
You just became a major part of your father's campaign with those words.
I think corporations are basically amoral, rather than evil, but that's a distinction without a difference since the consequences of their amorality are so frequently evil.
Klein's article is so full of "fundamentally" "primarily" "basically," and other modifiers, along with his qualification that "not all of these will apply to every left wing extremist" that it's obvious why he's everyone's least favorite wanker.
You people.
You aren't focused on the REAL tragedy! What shall become of the magnetic yellow ribbon manufacturers?
Magnet America, the largest manufacturer of the product, has seen sales fall from a peak of 1.2m in August 2004 to about 4,000 a month and now has an unsold stockpile of about 1m magnets.
“We have enough supplies to meet demand for years to come,” said Micah Pattisall, director of operations. “Every product has a lifespan and this one has run its course.”
plantsman - the azaleas are in bloom! Not the camellia yet, alas.
Andrew Giuliani said he would not participate in his father’s campaign, saying his devotion to becoming a professional golfer within three years allows no time for distraction.
Golf tip, Andy: Keep yer head still.
"I was wrong to say he was, since I don't know enough about him--but he sure is a purveyor of extreme and terminally smug rhetoric."
What does Klein want from Atrios?
That almost sounds like a compliment.
My post on NYT weblog. I thought it should be posted somewhere.
"The liberal media is finally starting to lay off Romney and I hope that people will finally be able to hear what he is all about."
The "liberal media" has layed off of Anne Coulter too. Even after she says things like this: "I would comment on John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot.’" http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...aggot%e2%80%99/
She is a major spokesman for the Conservative Wing of the Republican party and the 'liberal media' always support her hate filled remarks like this.
ThinkProgess has a list of times Anne has used Homophobic terms: "Previously, Coulter has put “even money” on Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) “[c]oming out of the closet,” said Bill Clinton shows “some level of latent homosexuality,” and called Vice President Al Gore a “total fag.”"
The 'liberal media' has been giving this hate filled spokesman for Conservative Republican's a big pass for many years now.
We can only " hope that people will finally be able to hear what (she) is all about."
But like Mr. Bush says 'that will be for historians to tell'
My post on NYT weblog. I thought it should be posted somewhere.
"The liberal media is finally starting to lay off Romney and I hope that people will finally be able to hear what he is all about."
The "liberal media" has layed off of Anne Coulter too. Even after she says things like this: "I would comment on John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot.’" http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...aggot%e2%80%99/
She is a major spokesman for the Conservative Wing of the Republican party and the 'liberal media' always support her hate filled remarks like this.
ThinkProgess has a list of times Anne has used Homophobic terms: "Previously, Coulter has put “even money” on Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) “[c]oming out of the closet,” said Bill Clinton shows “some level of latent homosexuality,” and called Vice President Al Gore a “total fag.”"
The 'liberal media' has been giving this hate filled spokesman for Conservative Republican's a big pass for many years now.
We can only " hope that people will finally be able to hear what (she) is all about."
But like Mr. Bush says 'that will be for historians to tell'
klein --regularly uses harsh, vulgar, intolerant language to attack moderates or conservatives.
I do fucking not, you cocksucking fagot.
There, another count for some think tank in Tennessee. (apologies to JP)
I think corporations are basically amoral, rather than evil, but that's a distinction without a difference since the consequences of their amorality are so frequently evil.
This is true, fundamentally. In fact, corporations are legally required to be amoral, and are legally deemed persons.
A lovely combination.
The estrangement and the "I'm too busy trying to be Tiger Woods" excuse.
Now all he needs is to come out and make the whole thing complete.
"not all of these will apply to every left wing extremist"
Hmm. At least to me, if you parse this out, it seems to say that the position of "left wing extremist" pre-exists the fitting Klein's conditions - that there is no minimum number of his conditions one MUST have to be a "left-wing extremist.
Or, in other words, "left-wing extremist" means simply "Someone Joe Klein doesn't like", and the conditions are then retroactively fitted.
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“Every product has a lifespan and this one has run its course.”
I thought this was an everlasting feeling of patriotism. Not a commercial product with a limited lifespan.
Silly me.
SteveLG, I think that's right, amoral rather than evil--most leftists I know don't believe in evil--
and like states, corporations' only purpose is to increase their own power.
A guy Klein doesn't think power corrupts, though of course he's a small embodiment of that truism.
"The liberal media is finally starting to lay off Romney and I hope that people will finally be able to hear what he is all about."
When did they start to lay on?
“Every product has a lifespan and this one has run its course.”
I thought this was an everlasting feeling of patriotism. Not a commercial product with a limited lifespan.
Silly me.
Snow | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:41 am | #
Silly you indeed.
And I'm sure all the soldiers who've lost limbs will be overjoyed to hear that this product's time has passed.
trifecta--I'm wishing you and your family all the very, very best. Your experience has been terrifying, but obstetrics and neonatology do some amazing things in this day and age. I've got good thoughts for you that your baby will be healthy and your wife will, too.
/Yum
/not even really lurking
/loves most of you
This is true, fundamentally. In fact, corporations are legally required to be amoral, and are legally deemed persons.
Umm.....isn't that the definition of "sociopath"?
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david--I think of evil as a theological construct; therefore I agree with you. Amoral, corrupt, sociopathic--those are terms I'll buy. But evil to me smacks of less than rational judgment. Just a pet peeve of mine.
This is true, fundamentally. In fact, corporations are legally required to be amoral, and are legally deemed persons.
Umm.....isn't that the definition of "sociopath"?
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Cynicus | 03.03.07 - 10:43 am | #
Bingo.
Joke Line is about half a fuckstick.
HICA!
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From the NYT Blog page:
March 3, 2007, 10:32 am
Fallout Over Coulter’s Anti-Gay Remark
By Adam Nagourney
There’s some big fallout from the meeting in Washington of the Conservative Political Action Conference, three days of conferencing, caucusing, presidential addressing and book-hawking. These conferences have historically been known for displaying what its own organizers would describe as over-the-top behavior, and one of the regular speakers – Ann Coulter – offered an example of it when she used an anti-gay epithet on Friday to describe John Edwards, the former senator from North Carolina and Democratic presidential contender.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/
Jeffraham--ooh, that's cold
How're my boys?
jeff is here, woo hoo
And apropos of this discussion is a brilliant quote from Edward Abbey on the nature of capitalism:
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
Hey Barry in Seoul! How goes the Corvair?
Joke Line is about half a fuckstick.
HICA!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:44 am | #
So he's a "cksti"?
plantsman - the azaleas are in bloom! Not the camellia yet, alas.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Our azaleas (and all of Gainesville's, which is fully festooned with them) bloomed several weeks ago and are already on their sad downward fade.
You could certainly make the case that free market economics is the country's leading religious faith. In other words, there's an amoral religion at the heart of the country. A spiritual vaccuum.
In other news, Atrios is an ideologically extreme smug faggot.
Joe can suck Ann Coulter's dick!
Rory - thanks for the magnet story. Just blogged it and gave you props.
Hey Barry in Seoul! How goes the Corvair?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
It is lost, was supposed to head to Sydney this morning, but ended up here instead.
We're gonna aim Corvair at Sydney tomorrow, and keep our fingers crossed (riding on Korean Air from Seoul to Sydney).
Oooh, GWPDA, kewl! Does the camellia have obvious buds?
Barry from AK in Seoul | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:25 am | #
Barry, have you had kimchee chocolate bars? My boss's son brought some back from his trip at Christmas.
Different.
Cool. Thank you in return, NTodd.
As an objective correlative, that shit just cried out to be noted...
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Jeffraham--ooh, that's cold
It must be my week for that -- someone accused me of that over at NiT this week, almost exactly the smae way you did. Some local wingnut said he wouldn't use bad words (oh) on his blog. I replied, "Who woud know?"
How're my boys?
All fired up, as always on mornings where they realize I'm not going away all day.
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OT just to remind everyone that Slacktivist has been very regular lately with his Friday Left Behind blogging, which is still one of the best reads on the intertoobz.
I mean, Fred's deconstruction of it, that is.
My two year old just took a 10gallon pot of my wife's favorite flowers, dumped it and is using it as a dump truck ramp. I don't think I will tell her.
david--I think of evil as a theological construct; therefore I agree with you. Amoral, corrupt, sociopathic--those are terms I'll buy. But evil to me smacks of less than rational judgment. Just a pet peeve of mine.
One of my many, many odd thoughts.....
i used to think that a Satan, a true embodyment of Evil, would have to be super-intelligent. Don't we say things like "diabolically cunning"? And so any Antichrist, his earthly personification, would have to be brilliant and successful.
But if you accept the Satan thing, you have to consider that Satan rebelled against Someone infinitely more powerful and knowing than himself. Two seconds thought wopuld tell Scratch what the outcome would be, yet he rebelled anyway, and was apparently surprised at the result.
So, if an Antichrist took after 'Dad' , he'd be more likely to be stubborn, and stupid, and comitted to emotional actions without thought of the consequences. And eternally surprised when they blew up in his face. His successes would be dumb luck and the enablement of sheer power.
i'm starting to give some religions more credence than before.......
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WASHINGTON, March 2 — The jury deliberating the perjury and obstruction of justice case against I. Lewis Libby Jr. recessed for the weekend on Friday without reaching a verdict, but not before leaving an intriguing clue as to the state of deliberations.
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Text: Libby Trial ExhibitsThe jurors sent a note with a question to Judge Reggie B. Walton, who is expected to respond on Monday when deliberations resume. In the note, the jurors asked for further explanation of the concept of reasonable doubt, suggesting possible uncertainty or even disagreement over the core standard by which they are to measure the evidence and testimony about Mr. Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/0...us/
03libby.html
I love how a Eschaton thread can transitions so smoothly between discussions of capitalism and cocksucking.
Or maybe it's not such a big transition.
Barry, have you had kimchee chocolate bars? My boss's son brought some back from his trip at Christmas.
Different.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
EEEEwwww, no.
What could be appetizing about rotten cabbage wrapped with chocolate?
eeeeWWWW
Oooh, GWPDA, kewl! Does the camellia have obvious buds?
plantsman, nutcase
It does, and they are green and not brown from the frost, and several look as tho they're about to burst.... It's an expectant time. That the azaleas are going into motion now is very hopeful for their longterm survival, neh?
Barry from AK: jeff is here, woo hoo
Hey man! How's ko-RE-er?
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Klein never actually asks if any of those points are true or not.
I love how a Eschaton thread can transitions so smoothly between discussions of capitalism and cocksucking.
Them two C words are pretty much synonymous, under current circumstances.
But if you accept the Satan thing, you have to consider that Satan rebelled against Someone infinitely more powerful and knowing than himself. Two seconds thought wopuld tell Scratch what the outcome would be, yet he rebelled anyway, and was apparently surprised at the result.
Hey, Satan, what's the story? Did you fall or did you jump?
Satan: Fall? Jump? Shit, man, I was pushed.
Rory - thanks for the magnet story. Just blogged it and gave you props.
Dammit! That's what I should have done rather than make poor jokes.
I think most liberals I know have been quite encouraging to Romney. He is raw clay.
I love how a Eschaton thread can transitions so smoothly between discussions of capitalism and cocksucking.
Or maybe it's not such a big transition.
Capitalism is more like assfucking, I think.
Socialism, in contrast, is all about the 69.
Hey man! How's ko-RE-er?
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Cloudy.
And why does everyone want old vegetables from here?
Cocksucking can be capitalism and visa-versa.
Dammit! That's what I should have done rather than make poor jokes.
Faggot.
Absolutely. And in our area, and the CA Bay Area, Camellia Petal Blight is an unsightly problem, but I hope you have escaped it!
My two year old just took a 10gallon pot of my wife's favorite flowers, dumped it and is using it as a dump truck ramp.
How very resourceful.
You could certainly make the case that free market economics is the country's leading religious faith. In other words, there's an amoral religion at the heart of the country. A spiritual vaccuum.
The New Testament says "Ye cannot follow both God and Mammon". And the leading lights of our Leadership seem to have sais "Ok, I'm on Mammon's team! Shirts!"
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Sorry to harken back a whole 20 minutes (two lifetimes in the comments section) but I really liked Mizner's list up above (at 10:30). Good writing.
Capitalism is more like assfucking, I think.
Socialism, in contrast, is all about the 69.
NTodd, Terminally Smug | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:51 am | #
Socialism: The economic GroupGrope for everyone.
Capitalism is more like assfucking, I think.
I should add: without a reacharound.
What could be appetizing about rotten cabbage wrapped with chocolate?
Why are you discussing Ann Coulter's bowle movements?
Capitalism is more like assfucking, I think.
I should add: without a reacharound.
NTodd, Terminally Smug | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:53 am | #
The Invisible Hand is, I hear, giving you the finger.
And not in the good way.
Camellia Petal Blight is an unsightly problem, but I hope you have escaped it!
I remember that from growing camellias in the San Fernando Lamas. Nasty browning of the blooms - I always understood that was caused by excess damp?
Why are you discussing Ann Coulter's bowle movements?
spin o'za
Well, you get my point then.
Barry, have you had kimchee chocolate bars? My boss's son brought some back from his trip at Christmas.
boy that's a real 'plate o shrimp' thing-
this morning I was readin Majikthise and I clicked on Lindsey's Flikr stream and she had a bunch of pictures of chocolate covered kimchee, which I'd never heard of.
And now, less than an hour later, it's the first post see when I click on this thread...
plate o shrimp
Kimchee- Chocolate bars?? Who the sexual intercourse would ruin kimchee with chocolate?
I think most liberals I know have been quite encouraging to Romney. He is raw clay.
WTF? He's a festering pimple on the buttocks of society.
I am a voice in the wilderness:
Fuck Joe Klein.
Yeah, and with the rain you've been having, I was worried, but let's ignore it and hope for the best, shall we?
Camellia Petal Blight
sounds like a character in a Noel Coward farce, doesn't it?
I think most liberals I know have been quite encouraging to Romney. He is raw clay.
"Raw clay" could also describe McCain, couldn't it? As in "Will convert for votes"?
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eah, and with the rain you've been having, I was worried, but let's ignore it and hope for the best, shall we?
plantsman, nutcase
I am verifiably Polly-Anna in these things.
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Ann Coulter endorses Mitt.
"But you have to say about Romney, he tricked liberals into voting for him," Coulter said. "I like a guy who hoodwinks liberals so easily."
http://
electioncentral.tpmcafe.c...coulter_primary
We're at the northern edge of camellia range here, and rains usually ruin them. Tulips suffer the same fate in April, usually.
I have to do some shoppin', today, but the wind is about to scour all the vegetation off the surface of Gnashvegas. I have to bike or walk to the bus stop in this. Let's think this through.
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I think most liberals I know have been quite encouraging to Romney. He is raw clay.
WTF? He's a festering pimple on the buttocks of society.
spin o'za
But he has only had sex with one woman, kinda puts the fundies in a bind.
I actually left a serious, civil answer over there. Not that he'll pay any attention to it.
Justice Breyer has been on CSPAN this morning talking about Social Justice during wartime for one thing. (repeat from Monday) He's an admirable person.
La Dame aux Camilias ain't what it used to be.
March? In like a lion.
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"But you have to say about Romney, he tricked liberals into voting for him," Coulter said. "I like a guy who hoodwinks liberals so easily."
"He's not a faggot, but he got the faggots to vote for him."
Not to try ameliorate any stupid thing that Chimpy ever sez, but if you are poor and live in a rural or semi-rural area, losing a car is a real big problem. And them southerners don't all have tornado insurance for their cars like the New Englanders and Canadians do (it was a free add-on for some reason).
I have to do some shoppin', today, but the wind is about to scour all the vegetation off the surface of Gnashvegas. I have to bike or walk to the bus stop in this. Let's think this through.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Walk there, bus back.
And bring kitty treats.
Douchebag.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 10:53 am | #
"You can never heal a heart, but you can provide comfort knowing that the federal government will provide help for those whose houses were destroyed or automobiles were destroyed," the president told Mayor Kenneth Boswell after the aerial tour.
But if your husband or wife got killed, yer shit out of luck...
I actually left a serious, civil answer over there. Not that he'll pay any attention to it.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave |
More civil than my used car comment?
How dare ye.
I think most liberals I know have been quite encouraging to Romney. He is raw clay.
I think we should be very, very worried about Romney.
Young conservatives are acting like he's the second coming of Ronnie Raygun. I think he's a stone cold liar and a very dangerous man.
Atrios seems to think it's okay that he's a Mormon. I don't. And I don't mind using it against him.
Am I the only one who will say it?!
Fuck Joe Klein.
Thump! Tha-thump! Tha-thump-thump!
Thump! Tha-thump! Tha-thump!
Coming from my neighbors, the last 20 minutes straight.
Either this is the longest gangsta rap tune, ever, or the fucking CD is on a->b repeat.
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It's awful. In nice weather, Darwin Tulips last for weeks. Here they get wetly shredded, mostly.
Yglesias says it well. (I especially like the last sentence. Whoever coined the term wingbut deserves a Medal of Freedom.):
"Multiple Choice Mitt's number one fan K-Lo explains that there's no need for her candidate to disavow Ann Coulter's "faggot" remarks because it was just Ann Coulter being Ann Coulter and "is anyone suprised Ann said something she really shouldn't have?"
Well, no, nobody's surprised. That's what makes Romney's behavior all the more outrageous. If you choose to affiliate yourself with a respectable politicial pundit, and then that pundit goes on and does something crazy and out-of-character, I think you can reasonably say you couldn't have predicted that and it has nothing to do with you. Coulter, though, is well-known for this crap. But Romney decided to embrace it anyway. Because now that he's reinvented himself as a wingnut, I guess he figures he should be the wingnuttiest wingnut he can be."
I planted tomatoes. I already can't wait to taste how yummy they are.
I meant wingnut, not wingbut, though that sounds good too.
More civil than my used car comment?
How dare ye.
I dunno. Just a shot in the dark that he might listen.
How are my girls today?
I think Maddie is going to have round eyeballs like Magoo when she's grown up.
And them southerners don't all have tornado insurance for their cars like the New Englanders and Canadians do (it was a free add-on for some reason).
There's actual risk of having to pay out on tornado coverage in the South, so it coast extra there. Not so where it's not a risk to pay. i live on a hilltop, so my (extra) flood coverage is cheap, but, thanks to the New Madrid fault, earthquake coverage cost me bucks.
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Barry from AK: Walk there, bus back.
And bring kitty treats.
The closest any bus ever comes to my place = 1.5 miles.
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"I like a guy who hoodwinks liberals so easily."
He'll have even an easier time hoodwinking the fundies.
By the by, Zora is still healthy and beautiful, and Miriam is still rather neurotic about how many people show that they care by commenting...
Just sayin', is all.
sheets
Romney is objectively against equality .
That's what I'm on a tear about.
Can't even use html tags over there. Lame-O.
I have a dream.... that one day Joe Klein will be judged by the content of his character...
Until then....
Fuck Joe Klein.
Well, I have to actually work today.
Feh. Photographing a bunch of wanker kids.
Atrios seems to think it's okay that he's a Mormon. I don't. And I don't mind using it against him.
Don't we have any really nice agnostic humanitarians that wannabe prez?
The closest any bus ever comes to my place = 1.5 miles.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Well, you threw it out as an option.
Still, something to consider for the ride back if the store is farther away than that.
Heck, I don't know BNA town.
Damn, I feel like an echo today. I'm one step behind youse guys.
You guys on drugs or something?
--doesn’t believe that capitalism, carefully regulated and progressively taxed, is the best liberal idea in human history.
Can someone, being as the blog owner is an economist, explain this tendency to assign political values to economic systems?
Coming from my neighbors, the last 20 minutes straight.
Either this is the longest gangsta rap tune, ever, or the fucking CD is on a->b repeat.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 11:00 am | #
When my downstairs neighbors used to do this, I'd lay my speakers facedown on the floor, put the volume to the max, and play the 1812 Overture.
It has cannons, dude.
Well, I have to actually work today.
Feh. Photographing a bunch of wanker kids.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
Excellent, you can send Maddie to my home for safekeeping.
Atrios, you smug lunk!
Why is he writing about you if he admits to not knowing enough about you?
/smacks self
"Multiple Choice Mitt's number one fan K-Lo explains that there's no need for her candidate to disavow Ann Coulter's "faggot" remarks because it was just Ann Coulter being Ann Coulter and "is anyone suprised Ann said something she really shouldn't have?"
so talentless provocateur Coulter is just being herself but Amanda Marcotte was skull fucking the pope?
IOKIYAR
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony....
Fuck Joe Klein.
Stuff to do today:
1) Clean bathroom (DONE!)
2) Laundry (doing)
3) Post office (need to do)
Romney is objectively against equality .
That's what I'm on a tear about.
plantsman, nutcase
So is Edwards, Obama, and Clinton, right? All opposed to gay marriage.
so talentless provocateur Coulter is just being herself but Amanda Marcotte was skull fucking the pope?
Yes.
This has been another edition of simple ansers to simple questions.
Hey, res! Busy day for me, too!
Stuff to do today:
1) Clean bathroom (overdue)
2) Laundry (avoiding)
3) Post office (hate the lines)
4) Fuck Joe Klein (no reacharound)
I'd lay my speakers facedown on the floor, put the volume to the max, and play the 1812 Overture.
It has cannons, dude.
rorschach
I used Kodo.
Oh, joy. i get to wash my dishes in the bathtub - yet ANOTHER leak in my downstair's neighbor's apartment ceiling...
[peruses the real estate listings]
goldstone,
Just whirling through that bathroom like a caffeine-jacked-up dervish.
HATE the laundry more than anything.
PO will be okay later in the afternoon.
As I said below, "I need a wife."
"Raw clay" could also describe McCain, couldn't it? As in "Will convert for votes"?
Describes his appearance, also.
Sheets.
Ben Sheets?
Fuck Joe Klein.
Kleins a hack...
For those interested in serious scholarship/debate here is Laird Wilcox's 21 traits of a political extremist from the Hoaxer Project Report:
1.) Character assassination
2.) Name calling and labeling
3.) Irresponsible sweeping generalizations
4.) Inadequate proof for assertions
5.) Advocacy of double standards
6.) View of opponents and critics as essentially evil
7.) Manichean (bipolar) world view
8.) Advocate some degree of censorship and repression of their opponents and critics
9.) Identify themselves in terms of who their enemies are
10.) Tendency toward arguments by intimidation
11.) Widely use slogans, buzzwords and thought-terminating clichés
12.) Claim some kind of moral or other superiority over others
13.) Doomsday thinking
14.) Tendency to believe that it is justified to do bad things in the service of a supposedly "good" cause
15.) Emphasis on emotional response, as opposed to reasoning and logical analysis
16.) Hypersensitivity and vigilance
17.) May claim some kind of supernatural, mystical or divinely-inspired rationale for their beliefs and actions
18.) Inability to tolerate ambiguity and uncertainty
19.) Group think
20.) Personalization of hostility
21.) Assumption that the system is defective if they don't win
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