"RALEIGH, North Carolina (AP) -- A shipwreck off the North Carolina coast believed to be that of notorious pirate Blackbeard could be fully excavated in three years, officials working on the project said."
But when do they find the Black Pearl?
EkCenTriK |
03.03.07 - 11:35 am | #
Wow, Firsties!
EkCenTriK |
03.03.07 - 11:35 am | #
Otay, I'll be second.
mena |
03.03.07 - 11:35 am | #
His crime: asking a question of another author (Mark Smith) about Ann Coulter, and about the Paula Jones case. Borchers had spent money, bought tickets, took time off work and traveled from Maryland as he does every year, to be at CPAC. He is a lifelong Republican, a conservative military veteran, whose only crime is being morally offended by the way conservatism has been ruined by people like Coulter who indulge in hate speak. He believes it is his moral obligation to bring attention to this, and that "evil triumphs when good men do nothing."
Or third. Or ninth. What the hell.
mena |
03.03.07 - 11:37 am | #
Klein is an extreme centrist--I'm trying to get that phrase off the ground.
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 11:37 am | #
Joe should leave this blog thing to the kids. Each new post by him only reinforces how lame and out of touch he really is.
Perhaps him and Grandpa Broder can retire and share a room at the Shady Rest Convalescence Center together.
Kid Charlemagne |
03.03.07 - 11:37 am | #
Oh, boy, a blog war!
I just hope I got here in time to get a good seat!
Rmj, Kwisatz Hierarch |
03.03.07 - 11:37 am | #
Haloscan seems to have come ready to play today.
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 11:38 am | #
Damn, I never come first.
Unless there is a vibrating luger involved, or someone spells out "Treblinka" with their tongue.
Ann Coulter's Vagina |
03.03.07 - 11:38 am | #
There giving Tony Snow hell on Wait, Wait right now. Hilarious.
mer |
03.03.07 - 11:38 am | #
"I just hope I got here in time to get a good seat!
Rmj"
I understand they will be firing over the audiences head. I love gimmicks like that.
EkCenTriK |
03.03.07 - 11:39 am | #
He does, apparently, understand "Suck my toes."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.03.07 - 11:39 am | #
Blognerds are probably well aware that, at long last, someone in a respectable publication has pointed out that Glenn Reynolds is completely insane. The article in question - by one Paul Campos - compares Reynolds to Ward Churchill, who, if you don’t know, is … um, I don’t know who he is, either. A community college professor or something
Actually Churchill wrote some very important stuff on Cointelpro (which of course we're not supposed to talk about).
If anybody can recommend me a more "mainstream" book about Cointelpro as good as Churchill's "The Cointelpro Papers" I'd like to buy it.
Left Wing Extremist |
03.03.07 - 11:40 am | #
Did'ya hear what McCain did? Tired of selling his soul, he lambasted Coulter and all "the mindless flock" that applauded.
Just kiddin'
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 11:40 am | #
I guess it would be too much for him to understand habeas corpus or bill of attainder
George Johnston |
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03.03.07 - 11:41 am | #
Tony Snow was the celebrity guest. Paula Poundstone was cracking me up.
mer |
03.03.07 - 11:44 am | #
Churchill said stupid stuff, like his little Eichmans comment, but his basic point--of chickens coming home to roost--is important, and it's this which the establishment finds unacceptable, the notion that United States contributed in some way to 9-11. Which, of course, is neither radical nor debatable.
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 11:44 am | #
Did'ya hear what McCain did? Tired of selling his soul, he lambasted Coulter and all "the mindless flock" that applauded.
Just kiddin'
david mizner
What is the word for that again? Maverick?
George Johnston |
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03.03.07 - 11:44 am | #
I think Alexander Cockburn might meet Joe's definition. Haven't been able to think of anyone else.
wtfwjd?, left-wing extremist |
03.03.07 - 11:44 am | #
This post strikes me as very smug.
sdf (Stu), several tiers below |
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03.03.07 - 11:45 am | #
um, I don’t know who he is, either. A community college professor or something
Someone made famous by the vast right wing conspiracy. Which is not really a conspiracy, since it's right out in the open. But it's uncivil, shrill, and terminally smug rhetoric to talk that way, so no one who talks that way can have any credibility.
But Ward Churchill is dangerous and nuts anyway, and is precisely why academia in America is a hotbed of commie symps and immoral ideas. Just ask David Horowitz, who is not shrill or terminally smug, nor a member of a right wing conspiracy.
Because he's right out in the open about it.
Rmj, Kwisatz Hierarch |
03.03.07 - 11:45 am | #
the only way I can eat okra, eggplant, or tofu is to put them in jambalaya or chili.
==
"Them were the days!"
mena |
03.03.07 - 11:45 am | #
One word that I think Joe Klein understand very well is "paycheck."
And, apparently, "vodka." Although that remains to be determined with certainty.
sdf (Stu), several tiers below |
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03.03.07 - 11:46 am | #
but he wrote it first in his slam book -
Liars for Bush |
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03.03.07 - 11:46 am | #
And "straw man."
porgy tirebiter |
03.03.07 - 11:47 am | #
You have made a powerful(ly stoopud) enemy, my friend.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 11:47 am | #
I may just go back to bed.
mena |
03.03.07 - 11:47 am | #
Churchill said stupid stuff, like his little Eichmans comment, but his basic point--of chickens coming home to roost--is important, and it's this which the establishment finds unacceptable, the notion that United States contributed in some way to 9-11.
Yep. If you want a more "respectable" version of Churchill's idea about Chickens Coming Home to Roost check out Chalmer's Johnson's triology "Blowback" "Sorrows of Empire" and "Nemisis".
Left Wing Extremist |
03.03.07 - 11:47 am | #
Actually Churchill wrote some very important stuff on Cointelpro (which of course we're not supposed to talk about).
1) Old news
2) It involved Republicans, and was investigated by Democrats, so it is never to be spoken of again.
3) Journalists who do talk about it are "Murrow's Boys," and so have no journalistic credibility or integrity.
Churchill said some things he shouldn't have. But his "Genocide" provides a fundamental understanding of the European invasion of America. I highly recommend it.
Moe Szyslak |
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03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #
I think what Joke Line really meant was, "unlike everyone else I have been in contact with over the course of my career, Atrios and the rest of these rabble-rousers seem to feel they can say what they really think about me and my writing, and say it to a very large audience. Don't they worry about how awkward and uncomfortable it will be when we meet in a green room or at a cocktail party? This is not the way people with large megaphones have traditionally behaved in our sheltered little world."
wtfwjd?, left-wing extremist |
03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #
I kinda wish Atrios would back up his snarkiness with some substance and/or fisking.
Y'know. Rather than being all smug.
Also sweaty and lunky.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #
B&G Accomplished.
Full as a tick!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #
Yep. If you want a more "respectable" version of Churchill's idea about Chickens Coming Home to Roost check out Chalmer's Johnson's triology "Blowback" "Sorrows of Empire" and "Nemisis".
Left Wing Extremist
But Chalmers Johnson was on Amy Goodman's show this week, so clearly he, too, is terminally smug.
Rmj, Kwisatz Hierarch |
03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #
update on badann the liz trotta wannabe
Liars for Bush |
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03.03.07 - 11:50 am | #
I am very fond of Bavarian style sauerkraut, with carraway seeds. Preferably served with sausages and mashed potatoes, in August. It's important that the temperature outside be over 115F for the full experience.
GWPDA, yclept Polly-Anna |
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03.03.07 - 11:50 am | #
Churchill said stupid stuff, like his little Eichmans comment, but his basic point--of chickens coming home to roost--is important, and it's this which the establishment finds unacceptable, the notion that United States contributed in some way to 9-11.
Exactly. Somehow, it's ok for Dinesh D'Souza to blame 9/11 on Americans and American policy, but Churchill loses his job over it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.03.07 - 11:51 am | #
You forgot 'faggot'.
NTodd, Terminally Smug |
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03.03.07 - 11:51 am | #
So, new to this blogging thing, what's that "trackback"ing all about?
Moe Szyslak |
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03.03.07 - 11:51 am | #
There is a very highly used trope in the genre wingnuttery (a trope closely akin to "anecdotalism") in which one cherry-picked apparently extreme example, we can call it a "Ward Churchill," is made to stand for the whole of leftie leftie leftarianism.
And Joe Klein is much more than willing to play along.
sdf (Stu), several tiers below |
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03.03.07 - 11:52 am | #
wtfwjd?, left-wing extremist | 03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #
Maybe liberal jeenyus is Joe Klein?
NTodd, Terminally Smug |
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03.03.07 - 11:52 am | #
um, I don’t know who he is, either. A community college professor or something
He's here at the university of colorado in boulder. Got tenure without a PhD and is genuinely smug. His students liked him, everyone else found him tedious and more than a bit oily.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 11:52 am | #
Jeez, Atrios, you're killing me with that smugness.
Call the smugoncologist!
immanentize |
03.03.07 - 11:52 am | #
Damn. Workin' the slap down or just throwing down the glove with this little ditty: "...teenage D-List "Youstabee"..."
carsick |
03.03.07 - 11:52 am | #
It is always preferable to be snarky and smug rather than sarcastic and wrong.
Especially if you're short.
Sachem515 |
03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
So, new to this blogging thing, what's that "trackback"ing all about?
It's for faggots.
NTodd, Terminally Smug |
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03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
"Joe should leave this blog thing to the kids"
Yeah, it's like watching a 70 yr old man put on "hip-hop" clothes, a backwards baseball hat, and start rapping.
"Poochie" from the simpsons comes to mind.
Anonymous (aka Volum) |
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03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
2) It involved Republicans, and was investigated by Democrats, so it is never to be spoken of again.
It involved both Democrats and Republicans. Wilson and the Palmer Raids? J Edgar Hoover under Kennedy and Johnson?
It was investigated by the Church Committee. Some token gestures towards abolishing it were made but it continued. This is why Churchill is important, not just a "Community College Professor". After the Church Committee, it's main focus was the American Indian Movement, a detailed study of which shows just what a sham the Church Committe was.
The new twist of course is that it's now being codified and made legal. The government's always tortured and assassinated people. Only now it's being codified and made legal.
Oh, btw, and this won't make me popular around here. Clinton began the process in 1996.
Left Wing Extremist |
03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
Klein should give up the bloggin thing and stick to his patented brand of fact-based journalism.
/falls off chair laughing
P.S. When one talks about someone (say, Coulter) with "Borderline Personality Disorder" does "borderline" refer to the borderline between sanity and insanity? This is a serious question.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
How many journalists have lost their jobs for being for the invasion in 2003?
How many journalists profited from being for the invasion/occupation?
It's so odd, the way that Ward Churchill even still serves as a lightning rod for all kinds of shit.
His ideas are brilliant, in my opinion, and I love his in-your-face style of expressing them.
His scholarly creds are questionable. Further, even his identity as a Native American is rather iffy, when you get right down to it, which wouldn't matter except that he trades on it...
Also sweaty and lunky.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
Ror, have you just gotten back from writing more Atrios fanfic?
sdf (Stu), several tiers below |
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03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
Churchill's idea about Chickens Coming Home to Roost
I think there's a lot to the chickens coming home idea, I think it's also worth noting that we have fucked over a lot of other countries whose cultures don't feel the need to kill innocent civilians in response. I fear that sounds Freidmanesque or even even (gasp) Hitchensesque but it is true and I think it's a point that the Churchills and the Cockburns and the Parentis too often miss. In other words, we are a big part of the problem, but there is also a problem "over there" that we can't ignore. Which doesn't mean the correct approach is to stick our finger in its eye.
wtfwjd?, left-wing extremist |
03.03.07 - 11:54 am | #
in all seriousness, i wouldn't waste valuable blog space on mr. klein... there's plenty of other, much more important things going on in the world without continuing to responding to the bait of a very small man...
I wish I coulda gone to Albuquerque today.
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GWPDA, yclept Polly-Anna |
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03.03.07 - 11:56 am | #
OT but Libby may have himself a jury dumber than OJ's, despite (because of) their fine educations. Their recent note to the judge:
We would like clarification of the term "reasonable doubt." Specifically, is it necessary for the government to present evidence that it is not humanly possible for someone not to recall an event in order to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
That's what a college education gets you: intelligence defeating common sense.
Farmer John |
03.03.07 - 11:56 am | #
I want to know what my Authentic Indian Name is.
SteveNS |
03.03.07 - 11:56 am | #
Ror, have you just gotten back from writing more Atrios fanfic?
sdf (Stu), several tiers below | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #
Ew.
Now I feel dirty.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 11:56 am | #
Sheesh! Yeah, tar Hillary with Bill's pardons. What else you got?
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 11:56 am | #
This is a serious question.
I always took it to mean that the personality disorder wasn't so serious that the person couldn't, to some extent, function in society.
I, however, am not a psychiatrist.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.03.07 - 11:57 am | #
It involved both Democrats and Republicans. Wilson and the Palmer Raids? J Edgar Hoover under Kennedy and Johnson?
I know. I was exaggerating for effect (I do that, frequently). This, of course, means it was "bi-partisan," which has become code for "since Democrats did it, too, it's not a scandal, except that Democrats won't admit they are as corrupt as Republicans, at which point there are no scandals in D.C., so quit disturbing our cocktail parties."
It's the Catch-22 of Beltway journalism.
Rmj, Kwisatz Hierarch |
03.03.07 - 11:57 am | #
Three more U.S. troops killed in central Baghdad by a roadside bomb.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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03.03.07 - 11:57 am | #
Go to Albuquerque in your head.
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 11:58 am | #
You asked for it, SteveNS.
You can find it here. But you must post it here once you do!
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 11:58 am | #
[per thread below:]
In accordance with my unimproved meat-and-potatoes palate, I don't eat nothin' that stinks.
And with all due respect to our resident Poissonniere, I've always been amused by seafood aficionados who insist that properly cooked fresh fish doesn't stink. I understand that people who enjoy odoriferous foodstuffs don't mind the stink (as George Costanza doesn't mind the smell of manure). But the fishophiles I'm referring to would have one believe that if one has the "wrong idea" that fish stinks, one must have been corrupted by a lifetime around inferior, post-fresh, poorly cooked fish. Even if one can detect a seafood entree being served twenty feet away at a respectable restaurant. I ain't buyin' it. 'Cause I've never witnessed this Holy Grail of fish that, like the Burning Bush, smokes but is not consumed by stink.
There are exceptions; when my mom occasionally cooked leg of lamb for dinner, my sister and I would say, "Eeww, 'barnyard'!" when we came in the house. But the strong cooking smell didn't persist when the meat was served.
Little Brøther |
03.03.07 - 11:58 am | #
Breaking news:
Joe Klein has no friends.
SteveN
Naw, this is it...
US News Sources still live in fear of Dubya.
Country disagrees.
There's your headline.
Barry from AK in Seoul |
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03.03.07 - 11:58 am | #
Or on a plane.
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 11:58 am | #
hree more U.S. troops killed in central Baghdad by a roadside bomb.
OK, guys, That's your one bomb a day. You've used it up already so no more bombing today. Laura said so.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.03.07 - 11:59 am | #
His ideas are brilliant, in my opinion, and I love his in-your-face style of expressing them.
His scholarly creds are questionable. Further, even his identity as a Native American is rather iffy, when you get right down to it, which wouldn't matter except that he trades on it...
Not the first time a wildly imperfect messenger had hold of the truth. Though it's absolutely true that the scrutiny he got was because of his opinions, it was several instances of blatant plagiarism that are getting him fired.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 11:59 am | #
Or on a plane.
plantsman, nutcase
Where are they?
Whatever they are, get em offa my jet!
Barry from AK in Seoul |
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03.03.07 - 12:00 pm | #
I wish I coulda gone to Albuquerque today.
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GWPDA, yclept Polly-Anna | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 11:56 am
we miss ya, auntie j...
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WoodyG's Guitar, rogue scholar |
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03.03.07 - 12:00 pm | #
His ideas are brilliant, in my opinion, and I love his in-your-face style of expressing them.
Churchill's a very weird guy who lied about his Vietnam War service (he served but he embellished it).
His work is also amazingly inconsistent (because he never went through an ordinary academic process). The essay about Chickens Coming Home to Roost was dumb. Pablo the illegal immigrant bus boy didn't deserve to go to his shift at Windows of the World then have a 767 smash into his face and 110 floors of molten steen land on his head.
But his work on Cointelpro is seminal and should be read by everybody.
Left Wing Extremist |
03.03.07 - 12:00 pm | #
Note to Atrios:
Refrain from having a battle of wits with the unarmed.
Gotta go run some errands. Full moon eclipse tonight, Moonbats. Go outside and see it if you can!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.03.07 - 12:00 pm | #
"Git yer fambly an emergincy kit, and be prepared for ermergincies that could happen in yer area!"--
Laura Bush
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 12:01 pm | #
res. It's actually a serious mental illness according the the NIMH:
it occurs to me that Joe Klein is not very bright and doesn't actually understand many of the words he uses.
Welcome to the "Joke Line is a frakin' idiot" club.
Monica_A: Coo Coo For Cash |
03.03.07 - 12:01 pm | #
Denthwerp Saintly Copperhead.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
SteveNS | 03.03.07 - 12:01 pm | #
I love that, Denthwerp!
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:02 pm | #
"RALEIGH, North Carolina (AP) -- A shipwreck off the North Carolina coast believed to be that of notorious pirate Blackbeard could be fully excavated in three years, officials working on the project said."
But when do they find the Black Pearl?
EkCenTriK |
They should be looking for Noah's Ark instead of wasting their time on some half-assed pirate ship.
Lime Rickey |
03.03.07 - 12:02 pm | #
Gotta go run some errands. Full moon eclipse tonight, Moonbats. Go outside and see it if you can!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Been the 3rd so long, I've been looking for the eclipse for 3 days now.
Math is hard.
Barry from AK in Seoul |
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03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #
I remember watching Churchill on teevee once and thinking that he had a very interesting (as in "fucked") interpretation of the 10th Amendment. Really out there.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #
With friends like Joke Line...
Oilfieldguy |
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03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #
I wish I coulda gone to Albuquerque today.
==
Me too. Although I know you were actually planning to. What happened, weather?
Oh dear. The spawn has come into a chunk of cash, and it's burning a hole in his pocket.
mena |
03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #
"It's amazing his brain generates enough energy to move his legs."
heh.
I'm 40% through with your music, Señor
billy b - lazy poker blues |
03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #
Manuel Chanting Scarecrow. But I think Manuel is just Injun for NTodd.
NTodd Chanting Scarecrow |
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03.03.07 - 12:04 pm | #
I've mentioned this before, but the thing I like best about the whole Ward Churchill kerfuffle was how Churchill got a new book deal out of it, leading a whole slew of his books to appear in brand-spanking-new editions in more mainstream-type bookstores I had never seen them before (and certainly never in big endcap displays).
Perfesser Ernest T. Bass and the rest of the Crackerbarrel Boys
This copyright dave dude, he funny.
Cantankerous old bastid, but funny.
billy b - lazy poker blues |
03.03.07 - 12:05 pm | #
If Joe Klein is truly a centrist, why aren't there hordes of wingnuts attacking him at his blog for his "centrist" positions?
bloggus interuptus |
03.03.07 - 12:06 pm | #
I remember watching Churchill on teevee once and thinking that he had a very interesting (as in "fucked") interpretation of the 10th Amendment. Really out there.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #
I remember watching Churchill on teevee once and thinking that he was one ugly motherfucker with really bad hair.
But I'm shallow.
steve simels |
03.03.07 - 12:06 pm | #
Borderline Personality Disorder.
It's serious as all hell. It was kitchen knives and pistols in the nightstand serious, till I moved out of the bedroom.
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 12:06 pm | #
Manuel Chanting Scarecrow. But I think Manuel is just Injun for NTodd.
NTodd Chanting Scarecrow | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 12:04 pm | #
Well, with yer no-pants policy and all, I reckon it was rather inevitable that it become manual.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:06 pm | #
From that Nagourney fallout post:
The question of whether the remark was offensive enough aside
TKK and I saw "Zodiac" last night. You might be interested as a Bay-area guy.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
Roxanne Invisible Humpback?
I certainly hope that refers to the whale.
watertiger |
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03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
I've mentioned this before, but the thing I like best about the whole Ward Churchill kerfuffle was how Churchill got a new book deal out of it, leading a whole slew of his books to appear in brand-spanking-new editions in more mainstream-type bookstores I had never seen them before (and certainly never in big endcap displays).
But here's what happened. Horowitz was able to remove him from his tenure and define the terms on how a professor could be removed.
Note. They didn't fire Churchill for making obnoxious statements about 9/11. They fired him for "academic irregularity" after they went through his work with a fine tooth comb and found some trivial errors.
Other academics got the message since nobody could have withstood that kind of scrutiny.
It's actually very similar to what happened to Amanda Marcotte. If the "liberals" blogosphere would have approached Churchill case in a more intelligent way instead of distancing themselves from him, they would have been much better prepared and Marcotte might still have a job with John Edwards.
Left Wing Extremist |
03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
res - and here are the criteria. The thing about personality disorders is they're not so much about symptoms or specific characteristics as they are about the broad pattern of inflexibility one displays (whether through unwillingness or incapability) in interpersonal situations. The flavor of inflexibility differs across disorders, but what's common across them is a problematic rigid style that simply does not respond to circumstances.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
I just got an advance leak of the new Fountains of Wayne album.
Don't tell Dr. Molly.
SteveNS, DSC
Rip and post.
Barry from AK in Seoul |
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03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
Borderline Personality Disorder.
It's serious as all hell. It was kitchen knives and pistols in the nightstand serious, till I moved out of the bedroom.
plantsman, nutcase | 03.03.07 - 12:06 pm | #
That doesn't sound like an Authentic Indian Name!
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
tigre,
I have the windows wide open. Am airing the joint out. It feels good.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
BTW -- Adam Shclesinger is a genius. That fake 80s stuff he wrote for Music and Lyrics is as brilliant as the fake 60s stuff he wrote for That Thing You Do.
steve simels |
03.03.07 - 12:08 pm | #
i don't know the details of churchill's background, but i'll say that the vast majority of african-americans have some native american in their family tree, if you go back far enough.
chicago dyke, extreme idealist |
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03.03.07 - 12:08 pm | #
JeffCO, Thanks. But what does "borderline" refer to?
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:08 pm | #
Roxanne Invisible Humpback?
I certainly hope that refers to the whale.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #
I love that!
That name cracked me up, I'll admit.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:08 pm | #
Or maybe I should read the linky you gave me before I ask what "borderline" refers to.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:09 pm | #
Jennifer wrote a great rebuttal to butthead Klein's turgid thesis or theories about America, Democracy, Capitalism, etc.
She effectively disputed all his points. Kudos.
Rudy |
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03.03.07 - 12:09 pm | #
res ipsa loquitur,
Did you hear on NPR that Sam Brownback now refers to himself as a "bleeding heart conservative?"
I almost choked on my toast.
bloggus interuptus |
03.03.07 - 12:09 pm | #
TKK and I saw "Zodiac" last night. You might be interested as a Bay-area guy.
Also saw Wild Hogs, which is some of the lamest shit of the young century so far.
steve simels |
03.03.07 - 12:10 pm | #
Why is the left so upset with Dreamboat Annie Coulter? She did not call Silky Pony a faggot.
What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.
liberal jeenyus |
03.03.07 - 12:10 pm | #
Jennifer wrote a great rebuttal to butthead Klein's turgid thesis or theories about America, Democracy, Capitalism, etc.
The flavor of inflexibility differs across disorders, but what's common across them is a problematic rigid style that simply does not respond to circumstances.
I just re-read this.
Who does this sound like?
Hint: Leader of the free world.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:11 pm | #
Did you hear on NPR that Sam Brownback now refers to himself as a "bleeding heart conservative?"
If he was RC instead of fundie, he would refer to himself as a "Sacred Heart conservative".
Little Brøther |
03.03.07 - 12:11 pm | #
Also saw Wild Hogs, which is some of the lamest shit of the young century so far.
steve simels | 03.03.07 - 12:10 pm | #
You went and saw that?
What the hell were you thinking? You have only yourself to blame.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:11 pm | #
I won't be here most of the day, so let me just say now: ignore the motherfucking moronic brownshirt fuck.
Well, c-d, the Cherokee owned black slaves, just like their white fellow citizens did in the South. It isn't terribly surprising. There's some interesting work recently concerning Spanish ownership of Indian slaves in the Southwest as well.
GWPDA, yclept Polly-Anna |
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03.03.07 - 12:11 pm | #
BULLETIN!
Ted Haggard is still a heterosexual.
Oilfieldguy |
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03.03.07 - 12:12 pm | #
I liked it a lot. I like police movies. I closed my eyes during the murders, though.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:12 pm | #
She did not call Silky Pony a faggot.
Yes she did, jethrene.
What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.
Oh, my. The paid shill is a real drama queen here.
billy b - lazy poker blues |
03.03.07 - 12:12 pm | #
BULLETIN!
Ted Haggard is still a heterosexual.
Oilfieldguy
Give it 3 weeks.
Barry from AK in Seoul |
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03.03.07 - 12:12 pm | #
Why'd I just say that?
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 12:13 pm | #
Obama Hussein, admit that you were once a slaveholder.
Lime Rickey |
03.03.07 - 12:13 pm | #
Sorry res, I meant to respond to mer.
bloggus interuptus |
03.03.07 - 12:13 pm | #
Other academics got the message since nobody could have withstood that kind of scrutiny.
excuse my post-academe bitterness, and excepting the fine scholars here, but this is exactly why i spit on a lot of lilly livered academics hiding in the comfort of their basement offices today. tenure should be sacred, the entire faculty should've walked off the job in support of it, and taken their graduate students with them. i didn't follow churchill's fall closely, but he gave horrorwits one of his most important moments of legitimacy. and he hasn't stopped with churchill.
i have similar feelings about academics who didn't do more to oppose the war when it began, despite have area specialties in all things iraqi or middle eastern. for too many, the saftey of the dry theory on paper is preferable to its application through actual action.
chicago dyke, coulterkiller |
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03.03.07 - 12:13 pm | #
Note. They didn't fire Churchill for making obnoxious statements about 9/11. They fired him for "academic irregularity" after they went through his work with a fine tooth comb and found some trivial errors. Other academics got the message since nobody could have withstood that kind of scrutiny.
Not that I feel like arguing, but that's factually wrong. Many academics manage to publish without plagiarizing. Here's the full report. And that's all I have to say about that.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 12:14 pm | #
FOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.
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Agent Orange |
03.03.07 - 12:14 pm | #
I like the "camels-in-the American-Southwest" tales myself.
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 12:14 pm | #
GWPDA,
Can you answer a question for me, please?
This is a verse from an Irish song called, FOGGY DEW.
Right proudly high over Dublin town
They hung out a flag of war.
'Twas better to die 'neath an Irish sky
Than at Suvla or Sud el Bar.
And from the plains of Royal Meath
Strong men came hurrying through;
While Brittania's huns with their great big guns
Sailed in through the foggy dew.
Am I correct in assuming that Ireland did not want to particpate in the UK's adventures in the Great War?
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03.03.07 - 12:14 pm | #
Who does this sound like? Hint: Leader of the free world. res ipsa loquitur
I can't possibly imagine who you have in mind.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 12:15 pm | #
What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.
More important, have I mentioned that Dust in the Wind is the greatest song ever written?
liberal jeenyus |
03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
FOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.
(The bar for W is set very low.)
plantsman, nutcase |
03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
I get Fountains of Wayne mixed up with Archers of Loaf.
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
Am I correct in assuming that Ireland did not want to particpate in the UK's adventures in the Great War?
DWD -Dirty Fucking Hippy
That line about Sulva refers to the ANZAC debacle.
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03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.
She did it so eloquently, too, faggot.
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03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
That name cracked me up, I'll admit.
RRRRRRRRRRROXANNE!
Aiight, I'm going to the gym.
And then the laundry. Maybe.
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03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
FOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.
Check out wt's post on that. And the quotes the gibbering idiot made as he did his photo-op tour of the place.
This moron is jethrene's hero.
billy b - lazy poker blues |
03.03.07 - 12:16 pm | #
FOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.
They love to see the king walking over the rubble of destroyed U.S. cities.
masculine_monica_nyc |
03.03.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Sorry it doesn't link. You would have to go to Klein's "Swampland" blog and scroll down to Jennifers post.
I consider the disturbing fact that HoJo was apparently permitted to offer a "Democratic " response to the Unitard™'s weekly radio address to be another carpet tack in the coffin of the hope that the Democratic party is ready, willing, and able to vigorously challenge the status quo.
As in all infant burials, the very size of the tiny coffin wrenches one's heart.
Little Brøther |
03.03.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Chimpy: "Ah got a heavy heart."
Lime Rickey |
03.03.07 - 12:18 pm | #
That name cracked me up, I'll admit.
RRRRRRRRRRROXANNE!
Aiight, I'm going to the gym.
And I do loves me some "Wallace Trivial Chocolate," which means that I should likely take my own self to the gym too...
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:19 pm | #
Not that I feel like arguing, but that's factually wrong. Many academics manage to publish without plagiarizing
You mean like Steve Ambrose and Dorris Kearns Goodwin?
Churchill made some mistakes but compared to Steven Ambrose and Goodwin his work as impeccable.
But Goodwin and Ambrose both have jobs.
And even if they had fired him legitimately, then they still fired him under the guidance/direction of David Horowitz. He was able to set the terms. And the message was still sent (since nobody's going to read this report in depth).
Every academic who isn't totally secure about his/her work is now going to be more cautious about making controversial statements.
Um, Southern Ireland was considerably less than enthusiastic about participating in the Great War.
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03.03.07 - 12:20 pm | #
They love to see the king walking over the rubble of destroyed U.S. cities.
masculine_monica_nyc
True and sad.
Nothing matters but NYC, DC, and Cwarford.
Barry from AK in Seoul |
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03.03.07 - 12:20 pm | #
Klein's post on rightwing extemism is shorter than his list of leftwing extremist attributes. He simply links to a Think Progress post about Coulter.
masculine_monica_nyc |
03.03.07 - 12:20 pm | #
When I first heard that Joe was giving the Democratic address, I thought it was a joke. I'm quickly falling out of like with Harry Reid.
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 12:20 pm | #
As in all infant burials, the very size of the tiny coffin wrenches one's heart.
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Perfect, Little Brøther .
mena |
03.03.07 - 12:21 pm | #
I assume Jokeline will be among the extreme centrists waxing horny over Rudy's machismo.
david mizner |
03.03.07 - 12:22 pm | #
Harry Reid = Edward Glorious Goat.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |
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03.03.07 - 12:22 pm | #
I liked it a lot. I like police movies. I closed my eyes during the murders, though.
There's a lot of controversy in the "Zodiac community" (honest to God, there is one!) about the source material. Graysmith isn't exactly the greatest writer in the world, and a lot of people think he puffed Leigh up way too much as the "only real" suspect.
I read the book when it first came out and liked the story, though I could see Graysmith's problems as a writer pretty clearly. But it was the only book available (unbelievably), and, also unbelievably, it still pretty much is.
Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
JeffCO |
03.03.07 - 12:23 pm | #
s h e e p s
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03.03.07 - 12:24 pm | #
Oh dear.
Get a load of MoDo's opening paragraphs in her latest piece on Obama:
As I sit across from Barack Obama in his Senate office, I feel like Ingrid Bergman in “The Bells of St. Mary’s,” when she plays a nun who teaches a schoolboy who’s being bullied how to box.
I’m just not certain, having watched the fresh-faced senator shy away from fighting with the feral Hillary over her Hollywood turf, that he understands that a campaign is inherently a conflict.
What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.
She did it so eloquently, too, faggot.
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A Vallejo woman indicted on federal racketeering charges for allegedly running a $2 million prostitution ring in Washington, D.C., is threatening to sell detailed phone records of her clients to help pay for her defense, her attorney in a civil suit said Friday.
Deborah Palfrey, 50, may have no other choice but to "liquidate her only remaining asset," records involving some 10,000 clients, said Washington attorney Montgomery Blair Sibley, who is representing her in a civil asset-forfeiture case that is now on hold because of a criminal indictment handed up Thursday.
Authorities have already seized about $1 million worth of real estate and $500,000 in cash and stocks in the civil case, Sibley said. She now faces criminal charges under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act -- known as RICO -- and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
In a February e-mail to federal prosecutors, Palfrey threatened to make "life miserable for those who used her escort agency's services," court records show.
"The press will have a field day at each of our expense," she wrote of the prospect of being prosecuted and releasing her 46 pounds of client records. "I can state with unequivocal certainty this situation will be a very long and unpleasant one. This, despite the sickening and humiliating additional lambasting I expect to receive in the media."
Also last month, Palfrey said she intended to depose a well-known former adviser to President Clinton.
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03.03.07 - 12:25 pm | #
England had basically negotiated Home Rule prior to WWI, then made it contingent upon participation in the war. The Irish were generally pretty skeptical of England's honesty in this matter, and justly so, since they had to fight a guerrilla war after WWI ended to achieve Home Rule.
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03.03.07 - 12:25 pm | #
Lunch beckons...talk on you guys later.
steve simels |
03.03.07 - 12:25 pm | #
Dave,
let me know what you think when you go check it out. BTW, it's 2 hours and 40 minutes long!
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.03.07 - 12:26 pm | #
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead.
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03.03.07 - 12:27 pm | #
if that actor guy that was sent to the re-education camp wasn't a conservative before the incident -which I suspect he was, thereby the treatment he got- he certainly is one now
liberal jeenyus |
03.03.07 - 12:27 pm | #
...anyhoo...think back a few weeks ago...remember the vicious, knuckle-dragging bigots Edwards hired?...
What is that you're saying, lying coward?
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03.03.07 - 12:29 pm | #
Dr Ivors,
I have a really chilling version of that song done by the Chieftons with some guest lady singer who is not identified - sends chills up your spine when you listen. If you want it, let me know.
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03.03.07 - 12:29 pm | #
If you tell people who are not very bright that they are not very bright, it only makes the discourse more confusing for them.
I hope Joe Klein uses this defense when he "lashes" back at Atrios.
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J Edgar |
03.03.07 - 12:30 pm | #
Speaking of Fetid Water, I see Karen Tumulty thinks bringing up Rudy's past is ever-so-icky!
..libtards just don't do nuance, do they?
liberal jeenyus
The lying paid shill really thinks it is cute...
billy b - lazy poker blues |
03.03.07 - 12:37 pm | #
Dr. Black: Please don't pick on joke line any more. You "bully" you. You're going to hurt his feelings and he might have to tell his mommy on you.
Tom |
03.03.07 - 1:05 pm | #
Damn.... I head out for a bite to eat, and lo and behold, there's more work to be done.