I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

"RALEIGH, North Carolina (AP) -- A shipwreck off the North Carolina coast believed to be that of notorious pirate Blackbeard could be fully excavated in three years, officials working on the project said."

But when do they find the Black Pearl?


Wow, Firsties!


Otay, I'll be second.


His crime: asking a question of another author (Mark Smith) about Ann Coulter, and about the Paula Jones case. Borchers had spent money, bought tickets, took time off work and traveled from Maryland as he does every year, to be at CPAC. He is a lifelong Republican, a conservative military veteran, whose only crime is being morally offended by the way conservatism has been ruined by people like Coulter who indulge in hate speak. He believes it is his moral obligation to bring attention to this, and that "evil triumphs when good men do nothing."

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/c...07/03/03/ p14875
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Or third. Or ninth. What the hell.


GravatarKlein is an extreme centrist--I'm trying to get that phrase off the ground.


GravatarJoe should leave this blog thing to the kids. Each new post by him only reinforces how lame and out of touch he really is.

Perhaps him and Grandpa Broder can retire and share a room at the Shady Rest Convalescence Center together.


GravatarOh, boy, a blog war!

I just hope I got here in time to get a good seat!


GravatarHaloscan seems to have come ready to play today.


GravatarDamn, I never come first.

Unless there is a vibrating luger involved, or someone spells out "Treblinka" with their tongue.


GravatarThere giving Tony Snow hell on Wait, Wait right now. Hilarious.


Gravatar"I just hope I got here in time to get a good seat!
Rmj"

I understand they will be firing over the audiences head. I love gimmicks like that.


GravatarHe does, apparently, understand "Suck my toes."


GravatarBlognerds are probably well aware that, at long last, someone in a respectable publication has pointed out that Glenn Reynolds is completely insane. The article in question - by one Paul Campos - compares Reynolds to Ward Churchill, who, if you don’t know, is … um, I don’t know who he is, either. A community college professor or something

Actually Churchill wrote some very important stuff on Cointelpro (which of course we're not supposed to talk about).

If anybody can recommend me a more "mainstream" book about Cointelpro as good as Churchill's "The Cointelpro Papers" I'd like to buy it.


GravatarDid'ya hear what McCain did? Tired of selling his soul, he lambasted Coulter and all "the mindless flock" that applauded.

Just kiddin'


GravatarMemories...


GravatarMer, what's the Tony Snow update?


GravatarGoddess guard us.


GravatarI guess it would be too much for him to understand habeas corpus or bill of attainder


GravatarTony Snow was the celebrity guest. Paula Poundstone was cracking me up.


GravatarChurchill said stupid stuff, like his little Eichmans comment, but his basic point--of chickens coming home to roost--is important, and it's this which the establishment finds unacceptable, the notion that United States contributed in some way to 9-11. Which, of course, is neither radical nor debatable.


GravatarDid'ya hear what McCain did? Tired of selling his soul, he lambasted Coulter and all "the mindless flock" that applauded.

Just kiddin'
david mizner

What is the word for that again? Maverick?


GravatarI think Alexander Cockburn might meet Joe's definition. Haven't been able to think of anyone else.


GravatarThis post strikes me as very smug.


Gravatarum, I don’t know who he is, either. A community college professor or something

Someone made famous by the vast right wing conspiracy. Which is not really a conspiracy, since it's right out in the open. But it's uncivil, shrill, and terminally smug rhetoric to talk that way, so no one who talks that way can have any credibility.

But Ward Churchill is dangerous and nuts anyway, and is precisely why academia in America is a hotbed of commie symps and immoral ideas. Just ask David Horowitz, who is not shrill or terminally smug, nor a member of a right wing conspiracy.

Because he's right out in the open about it.


Gravatarthe only way I can eat okra, eggplant, or tofu is to put them in jambalaya or chili.
==

"Them were the days!"


GravatarOne word that I think Joe Klein understand very well is "paycheck."

And, apparently, "vodka." Although that remains to be determined with certainty.


Gravatarbut he wrote it first in his slam book -


GravatarAnd "straw man."


GravatarYou have made a powerful(ly stoopud) enemy, my friend.


GravatarI may just go back to bed.


GravatarChurchill said stupid stuff, like his little Eichmans comment, but his basic point--of chickens coming home to roost--is important, and it's this which the establishment finds unacceptable, the notion that United States contributed in some way to 9-11.

Yep. If you want a more "respectable" version of Churchill's idea about Chickens Coming Home to Roost check out Chalmer's Johnson's triology "Blowback" "Sorrows of Empire" and "Nemisis".


GravatarActually Churchill wrote some very important stuff on Cointelpro (which of course we're not supposed to talk about).

1) Old news

2) It involved Republicans, and was investigated by Democrats, so it is never to be spoken of again.

3) Journalists who do talk about it are "Murrow's Boys," and so have no journalistic credibility or integrity.

QED.


GravatarChurchill said some things he shouldn't have. But his "Genocide" provides a fundamental understanding of the European invasion of America. I highly recommend it.


GravatarI think what Joke Line really meant was, "unlike everyone else I have been in contact with over the course of my career, Atrios and the rest of these rabble-rousers seem to feel they can say what they really think about me and my writing, and say it to a very large audience. Don't they worry about how awkward and uncomfortable it will be when we meet in a green room or at a cocktail party? This is not the way people with large megaphones have traditionally behaved in our sheltered little world."


GravatarI kinda wish Atrios would back up his snarkiness with some substance and/or fisking.

Y'know. Rather than being all smug.

Also sweaty and lunky.


GravatarB&G Accomplished.

Full as a tick!
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GravatarYep. If you want a more "respectable" version of Churchill's idea about Chickens Coming Home to Roost check out Chalmer's Johnson's triology "Blowback" "Sorrows of Empire" and "Nemisis".
Left Wing Extremist


But Chalmers Johnson was on Amy Goodman's show this week, so clearly he, too, is terminally smug.


Gravatarupdate on badann the liz trotta wannabe


GravatarI am very fond of Bavarian style sauerkraut, with carraway seeds. Preferably served with sausages and mashed potatoes, in August. It's important that the temperature outside be over 115F for the full experience.


GravatarChurchill said stupid stuff, like his little Eichmans comment, but his basic point--of chickens coming home to roost--is important, and it's this which the establishment finds unacceptable, the notion that United States contributed in some way to 9-11.


Exactly. Somehow, it's ok for Dinesh D'Souza to blame 9/11 on Americans and American policy, but Churchill loses his job over it.


GravatarYou forgot 'faggot'.


GravatarSo, new to this blogging thing, what's that "trackback"ing all about?


Gravatarupdate on badann the liz trotta wannabe


http://cliffschecter.blogspot.com/


GravatarThere is a very highly used trope in the genre wingnuttery (a trope closely akin to "anecdotalism") in which one cherry-picked apparently extreme example, we can call it a "Ward Churchill," is made to stand for the whole of leftie leftie leftarianism.

And Joe Klein is much more than willing to play along.


Gravatarwtfwjd?, left-wing extremist | 03.03.07 - 11:49 am | #

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.


GravatarAnd "straw man."

Maybe liberal jeenyus is Joe Klein?


Gravatarum, I don’t know who he is, either. A community college professor or something

He's here at the university of colorado in boulder. Got tenure without a PhD and is genuinely smug. His students liked him, everyone else found him tedious and more than a bit oily.


GravatarJeez, Atrios, you're killing me with that smugness.

Call the smugoncologist!


GravatarDamn. Workin' the slap down or just throwing down the glove with this little ditty: "...teenage D-List "Youstabee"..."


GravatarIt is always preferable to be snarky and smug rather than sarcastic and wrong.
Especially if you're short.


GravatarSo, new to this blogging thing, what's that "trackback"ing all about?

It's for faggots.


Gravatar"Joe should leave this blog thing to the kids"

Yeah, it's like watching a 70 yr old man put on "hip-hop" clothes, a backwards baseball hat, and start rapping.

"Poochie" from the simpsons comes to mind.


Gravatar2) It involved Republicans, and was investigated by Democrats, so it is never to be spoken of again.

It involved both Democrats and Republicans. Wilson and the Palmer Raids? J Edgar Hoover under Kennedy and Johnson?

It was investigated by the Church Committee. Some token gestures towards abolishing it were made but it continued. This is why Churchill is important, not just a "Community College Professor". After the Church Committee, it's main focus was the American Indian Movement, a detailed study of which shows just what a sham the Church Committe was.

The new twist of course is that it's now being codified and made legal. The government's always tortured and assassinated people. Only now it's being codified and made legal.

Oh, btw, and this won't make me popular around here. Clinton began the process in 1996.


GravatarKlein should give up the bloggin thing and stick to his patented brand of fact-based journalism.

/falls off chair laughing

P.S. When one talks about someone (say, Coulter) with "Borderline Personality Disorder" does "borderline" refer to the borderline between sanity and insanity? This is a serious question.


GravatarHow many journalists have lost their jobs for being for the invasion in 2003?

How many journalists profited from being for the invasion/occupation?


Joe?


GravatarIt's so odd, the way that Ward Churchill even still serves as a lightning rod for all kinds of shit.

His ideas are brilliant, in my opinion, and I love his in-your-face style of expressing them.

His scholarly creds are questionable. Further, even his identity as a Native American is rather iffy, when you get right down to it, which wouldn't matter except that he trades on it...

Anyways...


GravatarAlso sweaty and lunky.
rorschach, 5th-Tier Atriot |


Ror, have you just gotten back from writing more Atrios fanfic?


GravatarChurchill's idea about Chickens Coming Home to Roost

I think there's a lot to the chickens coming home idea, I think it's also worth noting that we have fucked over a lot of other countries whose cultures don't feel the need to kill innocent civilians in response. I fear that sounds Freidmanesque or even even (gasp) Hitchensesque but it is true and I think it's a point that the Churchills and the Cockburns and the Parentis too often miss. In other words, we are a big part of the problem, but there is also a problem "over there" that we can't ignore. Which doesn't mean the correct approach is to stick our finger in its eye.


GravatarCat wrasslin'!
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Gravatarin all seriousness, i wouldn't waste valuable blog space on mr. klein... there's plenty of other, much more important things going on in the world without continuing to responding to the bait of a very small man...

http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/


GravatarBreaking news:

Joe Klein has no friends.


GravatarThis whole thing is almost enough to make me whip out the Authentic Indian Name generator!

And if one person asks, I'll do it.

Love,
Wallace Trivial Chocolate.


GravatarI wish I coulda gone to Albuquerque today.
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GravatarOT but Libby may have himself a jury dumber than OJ's, despite (because of) their fine educations. Their recent note to the judge:

We would like clarification of the term "reasonable doubt." Specifically, is it necessary for the government to present evidence that it is not humanly possible for someone not to recall an event in order to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's what a college education gets you: intelligence defeating common sense.


GravatarI want to know what my Authentic Indian Name is.


Gravatar
Ror, have you just gotten back from writing more Atrios fanfic?
sdf (Stu), several tiers below | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 11:53 am | #


Ew.

Now I feel dirty.


GravatarSheesh! Yeah, tar Hillary with Bill's pardons. What else you got?


GravatarThis is a serious question.

I always took it to mean that the personality disorder wasn't so serious that the person couldn't, to some extent, function in society.

I, however, am not a psychiatrist.


GravatarIt involved both Democrats and Republicans. Wilson and the Palmer Raids? J Edgar Hoover under Kennedy and Johnson?

I know. I was exaggerating for effect (I do that, frequently). This, of course, means it was "bi-partisan," which has become code for "since Democrats did it, too, it's not a scandal, except that Democrats won't admit they are as corrupt as Republicans, at which point there are no scandals in D.C., so quit disturbing our cocktail parties."

It's the Catch-22 of Beltway journalism.


GravatarThree more U.S. troops killed in central Baghdad by a roadside bomb.
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GravatarGo to Albuquerque in your head.


GravatarYou asked for it, SteveNS.

You can find it here. But you must post it here once you do!


Gravatar[per thread below:]

In accordance with my unimproved meat-and-potatoes palate, I don't eat nothin' that stinks.

And with all due respect to our resident Poissonniere, I've always been amused by seafood aficionados who insist that properly cooked fresh fish doesn't stink. I understand that people who enjoy odoriferous foodstuffs don't mind the stink (as George Costanza doesn't mind the smell of manure). But the fishophiles I'm referring to would have one believe that if one has the "wrong idea" that fish stinks, one must have been corrupted by a lifetime around inferior, post-fresh, poorly cooked fish. Even if one can detect a seafood entree being served twenty feet away at a respectable restaurant. I ain't buyin' it. 'Cause I've never witnessed this Holy Grail of fish that, like the Burning Bush, smokes but is not consumed by stink.

There are exceptions; when my mom occasionally cooked leg of lamb for dinner, my sister and I would say, "Eeww, 'barnyard'!" when we came in the house. But the strong cooking smell didn't persist when the meat was served.


GravatarBreaking news:

Joe Klein has no friends.
SteveN


Naw, this is it...


US News Sources still live in fear of Dubya.

Country disagrees.


There's your headline.


GravatarOr on a plane.


Gravatarhree more U.S. troops killed in central Baghdad by a roadside bomb.

OK, guys, That's your one bomb a day. You've used it up already so no more bombing today. Laura said so.


GravatarHis ideas are brilliant, in my opinion, and I love his in-your-face style of expressing them.

His scholarly creds are questionable. Further, even his identity as a Native American is rather iffy, when you get right down to it, which wouldn't matter except that he trades on it...


Not the first time a wildly imperfect messenger had hold of the truth. Though it's absolutely true that the scrutiny he got was because of his opinions, it was several instances of blatant plagiarism that are getting him fired.


GravatarOr on a plane.
plantsman, nutcase


Where are they?

Whatever they are, get em offa my jet!


GravatarHecate? Bees in the urban garden.


GravatarI wish I coulda gone to Albuquerque today.
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GWPDA, yclept Polly-Anna | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 11:56 am


we miss ya, auntie j...
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GravatarHis ideas are brilliant, in my opinion, and I love his in-your-face style of expressing them.


Churchill's a very weird guy who lied about his Vietnam War service (he served but he embellished it).

His work is also amazingly inconsistent (because he never went through an ordinary academic process). The essay about Chickens Coming Home to Roost was dumb. Pablo the illegal immigrant bus boy didn't deserve to go to his shift at Windows of the World then have a 767 smash into his face and 110 floors of molten steen land on his head.

But his work on Cointelpro is seminal and should be read by everybody.


GravatarNote to Atrios:

Refrain from having a battle of wits with the unarmed.

Jes sayin'.


GravatarGotta go run some errands. Full moon eclipse tonight, Moonbats. Go outside and see it if you can!


Gravatar"Git yer fambly an emergincy kit, and be prepared for ermergincies that could happen in yer area!"--
Laura Bush


Gravatarres. It's actually a serious mental illness according the the NIMH:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/bpd.cfm


GravatarThanks, ror!

I am...

Denthwerp Saintly Copperhead.

Yeah, that sounds about right.


GravatarAfternoon, all.

Well...just read the Joe Klein thing downstairs.

Led Luthor's line in the first Superman movie comes to mind:

"It's amazing his brain generates enough energy to move his legs."


Gravataroy vey. Preznit Snuggles is at it again.


Gravatarit occurs to me that Joe Klein is not very bright and doesn't actually understand many of the words he uses.

Welcome to the "Joke Line is a frakin' idiot" club.


GravatarDenthwerp Saintly Copperhead.

Yeah, that sounds about right.
SteveNS | 03.03.07 - 12:01 pm | #


I love that, Denthwerp!


Gravatar"RALEIGH, North Carolina (AP) -- A shipwreck off the North Carolina coast believed to be that of notorious pirate Blackbeard could be fully excavated in three years, officials working on the project said."

But when do they find the Black Pearl?
EkCenTriK |


They should be looking for Noah's Ark instead of wasting their time on some half-assed pirate ship.


GravatarI love that, Denthwerp!

Thank you, Wallace.


GravatarGotta go run some errands. Full moon eclipse tonight, Moonbats. Go outside and see it if you can!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Been the 3rd so long, I've been looking for the eclipse for 3 days now.
Math is hard.


GravatarI remember watching Churchill on teevee once and thinking that he had a very interesting (as in "fucked") interpretation of the 10th Amendment. Really out there.


GravatarWith friends like Joke Line...


GravatarI wish I coulda gone to Albuquerque today.
==

Me too. Although I know you were actually planning to. What happened, weather?

Oh dear. The spawn has come into a chunk of cash, and it's burning a hole in his pocket.


Gravatar"It's amazing his brain generates enough energy to move his legs."


heh.

I'm 40% through with your music, Señor


GravatarManuel Chanting Scarecrow. But I think Manuel is just Injun for NTodd.


GravatarI've mentioned this before, but the thing I like best about the whole Ward Churchill kerfuffle was how Churchill got a new book deal out of it, leading a whole slew of his books to appear in brand-spanking-new editions in more mainstream-type bookstores I had never seen them before (and certainly never in big endcap displays).

I hope Churchill was nice enough to send Perfesser Ernest T. Bass and the rest of the Crackerbarrel Boys a Christmas card this year, with a copy of his royalty statement and maybe a schedule of his new speaking fees...


Gravatar10@10 marathon on KFOG... they're doing 1974 right now.

If you tune in now, you'll be in time to hear the Hudson Brothers' "So You Are a Star"!


GravatarIt's freakin' 55 degrees in March.

Oh, yeah. I'm looking forward to summer.



Not.


Gravatarit occurs to me that Joe Klein is not very bright and doesn't actually understand many of the words he uses

Smug!

Dunno whether Klein is not very bright, but his intellectual universe is certainly tightly constrained.


GravatarWoo woo!

I just got an advance leak of the new Fountains of Wayne album.

Don't tell Dr. Molly.


GravatarMe too. Although I know you were actually planning to. What happened, weather?

Rats.


GravatarPerfesser Ernest T. Bass and the rest of the Crackerbarrel Boys

This copyright dave dude, he funny.

Cantankerous old bastid, but funny.


GravatarIf Joe Klein is truly a centrist, why aren't there hordes of wingnuts attacking him at his blog for his "centrist" positions?


GravatarI remember watching Churchill on teevee once and thinking that he had a very interesting (as in "fucked") interpretation of the 10th Amendment. Really out there.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 12:03 pm | #


I remember watching Churchill on teevee once and thinking that he was one ugly motherfucker with really bad hair.

But I'm shallow.


GravatarBorderline Personality Disorder.

It's serious as all hell. It was kitchen knives and pistols in the nightstand serious, till I moved out of the bedroom.


Gravatar

Manuel Chanting Scarecrow. But I think Manuel is just Injun for NTodd.
NTodd Chanting Scarecrow | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 12:04 pm | #

Well, with yer no-pants policy and all, I reckon it was rather inevitable that it become manual.


GravatarFrom that Nagourney fallout post:

The question of whether the remark was offensive enough aside

Eh?


GravatarHey dave™©...

TKK and I saw "Zodiac" last night. You might be interested as a Bay-area guy.


GravatarRoxanne Invisible Humpback?

I certainly hope that refers to the whale.


GravatarI've mentioned this before, but the thing I like best about the whole Ward Churchill kerfuffle was how Churchill got a new book deal out of it, leading a whole slew of his books to appear in brand-spanking-new editions in more mainstream-type bookstores I had never seen them before (and certainly never in big endcap displays).


But here's what happened. Horowitz was able to remove him from his tenure and define the terms on how a professor could be removed.

Note. They didn't fire Churchill for making obnoxious statements about 9/11. They fired him for "academic irregularity" after they went through his work with a fine tooth comb and found some trivial errors.

Other academics got the message since nobody could have withstood that kind of scrutiny.

It's actually very similar to what happened to Amanda Marcotte. If the "liberals" blogosphere would have approached Churchill case in a more intelligent way instead of distancing themselves from him, they would have been much better prepared and Marcotte might still have a job with John Edwards.


Gravatarres - and here are the criteria. The thing about personality disorders is they're not so much about symptoms or specific characteristics as they are about the broad pattern of inflexibility one displays (whether through unwillingness or incapability) in interpersonal situations. The flavor of inflexibility differs across disorders, but what's common across them is a problematic rigid style that simply does not respond to circumstances.


GravatarI just got an advance leak of the new Fountains of Wayne album.

Don't tell Dr. Molly.
SteveNS, DSC


Rip and post.


GravatarBorderline Personality Disorder.

It's serious as all hell. It was kitchen knives and pistols in the nightstand serious, till I moved out of the bedroom.
plantsman, nutcase | 03.03.07 - 12:06 pm | #

That doesn't sound like an Authentic Indian Name!


Gravatartigre,

I have the windows wide open. Am airing the joint out. It feels good.


GravatarIf you remember it - you weren't there!


GravatarI just got an advance leak of the new Fountains of Wayne album.Don't tell Dr. Molly. SteveNS, DSC

I heard something new from that on the radio yesterday - liked it very much.


GravatarJoke Line is brite. Him's momma calls him sun.


GravatarWoo woo!

I just got an advance leak of the new Fountains of Wayne album.

Don't tell Dr. Molly.
SteveNS, DSC | 03.03.07 - 12:05 pm |


Bastard!

BTW -- Adam Shclesinger is a genius. That fake 80s stuff he wrote for Music and Lyrics is as brilliant as the fake 60s stuff he wrote for That Thing You Do.


Gravatari don't know the details of churchill's background, but i'll say that the vast majority of african-americans have some native american in their family tree, if you go back far enough.


GravatarJeffCO, Thanks. But what does "borderline" refer to?


GravatarRoxanne Invisible Humpback?

I certainly hope that refers to the whale.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.03.07 - 12:07 pm | #


I love that!

That name cracked me up, I'll admit.


GravatarOr maybe I should read the linky you gave me before I ask what "borderline" refers to.


GravatarJennifer wrote a great rebuttal to butthead Klein's turgid thesis or theories about America, Democracy, Capitalism, etc.

She effectively disputed all his points. Kudos.


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur,

Did you hear on NPR that Sam Brownback now refers to himself as a "bleeding heart conservative?"

I almost choked on my toast.


GravatarTKK and I saw "Zodiac" last night. You might be interested as a Bay-area guy.

So what's your verdict?

BTW, I'm living in the town that the main suspect lived in, and where the first murders occured... I know where Arthur Allen Leigh's house is!


Gravatarres ipsa:

I saw Zodiac too. Whadya think?

(I thought it was brilliant....)


Also saw Wild Hogs, which is some of the lamest shit of the young century so far.


GravatarWhy is the left so upset with Dreamboat Annie Coulter? She did not call Silky Pony a faggot.

What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.


GravatarJennifer wrote a great rebuttal to butthead Klein's turgid thesis or theories about America, Democracy, Capitalism, etc.

Got link???


Gravatar The flavor of inflexibility differs across disorders, but what's common across them is a problematic rigid style that simply does not respond to circumstances.

I just re-read this.

Who does this sound like?

Hint: Leader of the free world.


GravatarDid you hear on NPR that Sam Brownback now refers to himself as a "bleeding heart conservative?"

If he was RC instead of fundie, he would refer to himself as a "Sacred Heart conservative".


Gravatar
Also saw Wild Hogs, which is some of the lamest shit of the young century so far.
steve simels | 03.03.07 - 12:10 pm | #


You went and saw that?

What the hell were you thinking? You have only yourself to blame.


GravatarI won't be here most of the day, so let me just say now: ignore the motherfucking moronic brownshirt fuck.

PLEASE!


GravatarWell, c-d, the Cherokee owned black slaves, just like their white fellow citizens did in the South. It isn't terribly surprising. There's some interesting work recently concerning Spanish ownership of Indian slaves in the Southwest as well.


GravatarBULLETIN!

Ted Haggard is still a heterosexual.


Gravatarbloggus interruptus,

I don't listen to NPR.

simels & dave™©,

I liked it a lot. I like police movies. I closed my eyes during the murders, though.


GravatarShe did not call Silky Pony a faggot.


Yes she did, jethrene.

What she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.


Oh, my. The paid shill is a real drama queen here.


GravatarBULLETIN!

Ted Haggard is still a heterosexual.
Oilfieldguy


Give it 3 weeks.


GravatarIt's pretzel-worthy halfwit again!


GravatarI'm a bleeding ass liberal.

Why'd I just say that?


GravatarObama Hussein, admit that you were once a slaveholder.


GravatarSorry res, I meant to respond to mer.


GravatarOther academics got the message since nobody could have withstood that kind of scrutiny.

excuse my post-academe bitterness, and excepting the fine scholars here, but this is exactly why i spit on a lot of lilly livered academics hiding in the comfort of their basement offices today. tenure should be sacred, the entire faculty should've walked off the job in support of it, and taken their graduate students with them. i didn't follow churchill's fall closely, but he gave horrorwits one of his most important moments of legitimacy. and he hasn't stopped with churchill.

i have similar feelings about academics who didn't do more to oppose the war when it began, despite have area specialties in all things iraqi or middle eastern. for too many, the saftey of the dry theory on paper is preferable to its application through actual action.


GravatarNote. They didn't fire Churchill for making obnoxious statements about 9/11. They fired him for "academic irregularity" after they went through his work with a fine tooth comb and found some trivial errors. Other academics got the message since nobody could have withstood that kind of scrutiny.

Not that I feel like arguing, but that's factually wrong. Many academics manage to publish without plagiarizing. Here's the full report. And that's all I have to say about that.


GravatarFOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.
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GravatarI like the "camels-in-the American-Southwest" tales myself.


GravatarGWPDA,

Can you answer a question for me, please?

This is a verse from an Irish song called, FOGGY DEW.

Right proudly high over Dublin town
They hung out a flag of war.
'Twas better to die 'neath an Irish sky
Than at Suvla or Sud el Bar.
And from the plains of Royal Meath
Strong men came hurrying through;
While Brittania's huns with their great big guns
Sailed in through the foggy dew.


Am I correct in assuming that Ireland did not want to particpate in the UK's adventures in the Great War?


GravatarWho does this sound like? Hint: Leader of the free world. res ipsa loquitur

I can't possibly imagine who you have in mind.


GravatarGot link???
dave™©

Sorry it doesn't link. You would have to go to Klein's "Swampland" blog and scroll down to Jennifers post.

It's worth it.


GravatarI'm a bleeding ass liberal.

Why'd I just say that?
david mizner | 03.03.07 - 12:13 pm | #


Logorrhea?


GravatarWhat she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.


More important, have I mentioned that Dust in the Wind is the greatest song ever written?


GravatarFOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.

(The bar for W is set very low.)


GravatarI get Fountains of Wayne mixed up with Archers of Loaf.


GravatarAm I correct in assuming that Ireland did not want to particpate in the UK's adventures in the Great War?
DWD -Dirty Fucking Hippy


That line about Sulva refers to the ANZAC debacle.


GravatarWhat she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.

She did it so eloquently, too, faggot.


GravatarThat name cracked me up, I'll admit.

RRRRRRRRRRROXANNE!

Aiight, I'm going to the gym.

And then the laundry. Maybe.


GravatarFOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.


Check out wt's post on that. And the quotes the gibbering idiot made as he did his photo-op tour of the place.

This moron is jethrene's hero.


GravatarFOXNews.com and CNN.com really spinning the Bush as a man of action line in the wake of the recent tornado disasters.

They love to see the king walking over the rubble of destroyed U.S. cities.


GravatarSorry it doesn't link. You would have to go to Klein's "Swampland" blog and scroll down to Jennifers post.

Got it! Thanx...


GravatarI consider the disturbing fact that HoJo was apparently permitted to offer a
"Democratic " response to the Unitard™'s weekly radio address to be another carpet tack in the coffin of the hope that the Democratic party is ready, willing, and able to vigorously challenge the status quo.

As in all infant burials, the very size of the tiny coffin wrenches one's heart.


GravatarChimpy: "Ah got a heavy heart."


GravatarThat name cracked me up, I'll admit.

RRRRRRRRRRROXANNE!

Aiight, I'm going to the gym.


And I do loves me some "Wallace Trivial Chocolate," which means that I should likely take my own self to the gym too...


GravatarNot that I feel like arguing, but that's factually wrong. Many academics manage to publish without plagiarizing

You mean like Steve Ambrose and Dorris Kearns Goodwin?

Churchill made some mistakes but compared to Steven Ambrose and Goodwin his work as impeccable.

But Goodwin and Ambrose both have jobs.

And even if they had fired him legitimately, then they still fired him under the guidance/direction of David Horowitz. He was able to set the terms. And the message was still sent (since nobody's going to read this report in depth).

Every academic who isn't totally secure about his/her work is now going to be more cautious about making controversial statements.

Horowitz won.


GravatarUm, Southern Ireland was considerably less than enthusiastic about participating in the Great War.


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They love to see the king walking over the rubble of destroyed U.S. cities.
masculine_monica_nyc



True and sad.


Nothing matters but NYC, DC, and Cwarford.


GravatarKlein's post on rightwing extemism is shorter than his list of leftwing extremist attributes. He simply links to a Think Progress post about Coulter.


GravatarWhen I first heard that Joe was giving the Democratic address, I thought it was a joke. I'm quickly falling out of like with Harry Reid.


GravatarNew LarryElvis!
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GravatarAs in all infant burials, the very size of the tiny coffin wrenches one's heart.
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Perfect, Little Brøther .


GravatarI assume Jokeline will be among the extreme centrists waxing horny over Rudy's machismo.


GravatarHarry Reid = Edward Glorious Goat.


GravatarI liked it a lot. I like police movies. I closed my eyes during the murders, though.

There's a lot of controversy in the "Zodiac community" (honest to God, there is one!) about the source material. Graysmith isn't exactly the greatest writer in the world, and a lot of people think he puffed Leigh up way too much as the "only real" suspect.

I read the book when it first came out and liked the story, though I could see Graysmith's problems as a writer pretty clearly. But it was the only book available (unbelievably), and, also unbelievably, it still pretty much is.

BTW, my wife and I were both kids growing up in the Bay Area when Zodiac sent his letter about shooting kids as they came off a school bus. She remembers having nightmares about it. Amazingly enough, just when that happened, my class was scheduled to go on a field trip to the coast south of San Francisco in a school bus. Surprisingly, the trip wasn't cancelled, but all the kids were a-twitter about Zodiac that day!


GravatarHorowitz won. Left Wing Extremist

Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.


Gravatars h e e p s
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GravatarOh dear.

Get a load of MoDo's opening paragraphs in her latest piece on Obama:

As I sit across from Barack Obama in his Senate office, I feel like Ingrid Bergman in “The Bells of St. Mary’s,” when she plays a nun who teaches a schoolboy who’s being bullied how to box.

I’m just not certain, having watched the fresh-faced senator shy away from fighting with the feral Hillary over her Hollywood turf, that he understands that a campaign is inherently a conflict.


http://welcome-to-pottersville.b...e.blogspot.com/


GravatarWhat she was trying to get across is that the left is fundamnetally fascist and used the example of that actor guy being forced to go to a re-education camp.

She did it so eloquently, too, faggot.
NTodd Chanting Scarecrow |


Cockeater calling someone else "faggot"?...amusing

...anyhoo...think back a few weeks ago...remember the vicious, knuckle-dragging bigots Edwards hired?...

...Ann was simply contextualizing the hypocrisy of the left..

..libtards just don't do nuance, do they?


GravatarYeah, Jennifer's response to Joke Line is excellent (and not just 'cuz she mentions me!).


GravatarAs in all infant burials, the very size of the tiny coffin wrenches one's heart.
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Perfect, Little Brøther .
mena | 03.03.07 - 12:21 pm | #


Perfect, indeed. I hate thinking of the tiny casket required for my brother, who died of the very thing that nearly killed me on numerous occasions.

I miss him.


GravatarVallejo woman under indictment threatens to expose customers who used alleged D.C. escort service.

A Vallejo woman indicted on federal racketeering charges for allegedly running a $2 million prostitution ring in Washington, D.C., is threatening to sell detailed phone records of her clients to help pay for her defense, her attorney in a civil suit said Friday.

Deborah Palfrey, 50, may have no other choice but to "liquidate her only remaining asset," records involving some 10,000 clients, said Washington attorney Montgomery Blair Sibley, who is representing her in a civil asset-forfeiture case that is now on hold because of a criminal indictment handed up Thursday.

Authorities have already seized about $1 million worth of real estate and $500,000 in cash and stocks in the civil case, Sibley said. She now faces criminal charges under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act -- known as RICO -- and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

In a February e-mail to federal prosecutors, Palfrey threatened to make "life miserable for those who used her escort agency's services," court records show.

"The press will have a field day at each of our expense," she wrote of the prospect of being prosecuted and releasing her 46 pounds of client records. "I can state with unequivocal certainty this situation will be a very long and unpleasant one. This, despite the sickening and humiliating additional lambasting I expect to receive in the media."

Also last month, Palfrey said she intended to depose a well-known former adviser to President Clinton.


GravatarEngland had basically negotiated Home Rule prior to WWI, then made it contingent upon participation in the war. The Irish were generally pretty skeptical of England's honesty in this matter, and justly so, since they had to fight a guerrilla war after WWI ended to achieve Home Rule.


GravatarLunch beckons...talk on you guys later.


GravatarDave,

let me know what you think when you go check it out. BTW, it's 2 hours and 40 minutes long!


GravatarWas it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead.


Gravatarif that actor guy that was sent to the re-education camp wasn't a conservative before the incident -which I suspect he was, thereby the treatment he got- he certainly is one now


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur,

Don't let fame ruin you.


Gravatarfresh threads, sheets, drapes, owls


Gravatar...anyhoo...think back a few weeks ago...remember the vicious, knuckle-dragging bigots Edwards hired?...

What is that you're saying, lying coward?


GravatarDr Ivors,

I have a really chilling version of that song done by the Chieftons with some guest lady singer who is not identified - sends chills up your spine when you listen. If you want it, let me know.


GravatarIf you tell people who are not very bright that they are not very bright, it only makes the discourse more confusing for them.

I hope Joe Klein uses this defense when he "lashes" back at Atrios.
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GravatarSpeaking of Fetid Water, I see Karen Tumulty thinks bringing up Rudy's past is ever-so-icky!

Of course, the "past" she wants to talk about has nothing to do with his mob ties, his serial adultery, or Bernie Kerik...


Gravatar..libtards just don't do nuance, do they?
liberal jeenyus


The lying paid shill really thinks it is cute...


GravatarDr. Black: Please don't pick on joke line any more. You "bully" you. You're going to hurt his feelings and he might have to tell his mommy on you.


GravatarDamn.... I head out for a bite to eat, and lo and behold, there's more work to be done.

So here goes, with apologies for missing my cue:

Fuck Joe Klein.


GravatarI got fed up with Joe writing his strawman lists about "left-wingers", so I decided to make my own list about the media:

http://grahamshevlin.com/b2evo/ i..._a_media_doofus


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