I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Good midmorning.
Pooh.
Hiya!
Commas, mac & cheese--it's all the same.
Well, sheet.
WHO IS JANE GALT?
Baked macaroni and cheese can take quite a long time--especially if one wants that lovely brown crispy stuff on the edges.
I don't think you have to bake refugees that long to get them brown and crispy. Sometimes, that's instantaneous, e.g., if they're on the wrong road at the wrong time.
Jane needs to rethink her methodology.
[/snark]
Hmmm. Anyone want to fill me in? I missed the point.
No, The Lancet is not a respected Journal.
IS NOT!!!
the centre of world money-laundering? - the US
"the FBI estimates that anonymously held US shell companies have laundered $36 billion to date just from the former Soviet Union"
http://members.forbes.com/forbes...DQgKzAwMDA%
253D
Doug | 03.10.07
W. T. F???????
macaroni and cheese and Iraq refugees - What the fuck is this about?
Dana Rohrabacher and the Chinese comfort women.
macaroni and cheese and Iraq refugees - What the fuck is this about?
I missed the point also, T.
I believe we need to give the macaroni and cheese a chance to succeed. Maybe six months. Oh yeah, and my husband's dick is twelve inches, he told me so.
J. Galt
Those Brits and their queer senses of humor, that's what it's about!
Anybody who names herself after a character in Atlas Shrugged is by definition a mongrel idiot.
It's like when we had that troll named dispshit.
C'mon -- what kind of a dipshit thinks its funny to name himself dipshit?
Tena,
This is about desperate and mind-bogglingly stupid wing-nuts looking for some way to discount the horrible tragedy the Bush administration has created in Iraq.
But you knew that.
I can make macaroni and cheese in under 90 minutes. What is wrong with that woman?
C'mon -- what kind of a dipshit thinks its funny to name himself dipshit?
steve simels
Uh huh.
I believe we need to give the macaroni and cheese a chance to succeed. Maybe six months. Oh yeah, and my husband's dick is twelve inches, he told me so.
J. Galt
Ah Clem
Let me be the first to ask:
cut or uncut?
who is jane galt?
./
when all else fails deliberately misunderstand and make stuff up
I can make macaroni and cheese in under 90 minutes. What is wrong with that woman?
trifecta
So can I, and I'll bet mine is better than anyone else's, too.
Ha ha!
The Lancet/Johns Hopkins Study pegged Iraqi deaths in the war at up to 655,000. Ms. Galt does not think so -- the link elaborates.
I think it's truth in advertising. He was a dipshit. Maybe it was a native american name bestowed on him, when he asked a Sioux elder where he could get some good Indian tandoori chicken.
I missed the point also, T.
billy b - lazy poker blues
People always underestimate how long it will take to cook macaroni and cheese. Well, global warming is the same.
tkk?
a soda for you?
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Have I mentioned that everybody should go see "The Host" immediately?
And that "300" is pretty good if you like multiple beheadings and lukewarm woman-on-Elephant Man sex?
Anybody who names herself after a character in Atlas Shrugged is by definition a mongrel idiot.
heh.
Good point, steverino.
I've got your CD's recorded. I ran out of ink this am ans will have to go get more to finish labeling them. I'll mail 'em early next week.
CNN all excited: Missing baby!
Mac and cheese from scratch takes me no more than 45 minutes, including 25 minutes to bake. What this has to do with the number of Iraqi dead/immigrants, I have no idea.
The Lancet/Johns Hopkins Study pegged Iraqi deaths in the war at up to 655,000. Ms. Galt does not think so -- the link elaborates.
plantsman
I know, but it's the weirdest analogy I think I've ever encountered. So WTF? is an honest reaction.
I've got your CD's recorded. I ran out of ink this am ans will have to go get more to finish labeling them. I'll mail 'em early next week.
billy b - lazy poker blues | 03.10.07 - 11:37 am | #
Cool.
But refresh my memory -- what am I burning for you? Was it Eggs Over Easy? Cause if so, it's done.
People always underestimate how long it will take to cook macaroni and cheese. Well, global warming is the same.
Thanks.
Seems like a poor analogy, tho.
you set the burner to high, put hot water on in the sink. You preheat the oven. You cook the pasta 2 minutes from al dente, and while the pasta is cooking, you make your cheese sauce. drain, combine the pasta and cheese sauce and bake. An hour max until you are finished.
Oh, and Galt is full of shit on casualty numbers too.
But what I wanted to blog about is a somewhat related phenomenon, which is the systematic human tendency to underestimate how long things take. This was driven home to me rather poignantly when I went up against Spencer Ackerman in Blogging Chefs, and tried to estimate just how much I could do in 90 minutes. Then I tested how long it actually took to, say, cook macaroni and cheese.
Honey, if it takes you 90 minutes to make macaroni and cheese, you need a case worker.
But refresh my memory -- what am I burning for you? Was it Eggs Over Easy? Cause if so, it's done.
Yep, that's it.
WTF? Galt herself brings up the analogy, in the linked document; and yes, it is weird!
yes, go see the host. increase the size of my cousin-in-law's bank account.
WHO IS JANE GALT?
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 11:31 am | #
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hahahahahahahaha
anybody else hoping bunnpants & pickles
left their passports behind and won't be able to get back into the country?
Hey you might get a better Christmas present this year Atrios. It could trickle down on you.
when all else fails deliberately misunderstand and make stuff up
Liars for Bush | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 11:36 am | #
Not quite right: The Republican strategy is -- before you do anything else, deliberaly lie and make stuff up.
Missing Baby!!! Oh baby, thats good! I want more, more.
I can no longer have macaroni and cheese. I have not suffered, yet.
Is Andrew Sullivan high today? He is linking to pictures of bugs hitting windshields.
Have I mentioned that everybody should go see "The Host" immediately?
And that "300" is pretty good if you like multiple beheadings and lukewarm woman-on-Elephant Man sex?
steve simels | 03.10.07 - 11:37 am | #
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give a teaser..whats it a bout?
and at my Lab the Lancet was teh important
yes, go see the host. increase the size of my cousin-in-law's bank account.
Atrios | 03.10.07 - 11:39 am | #
Seriously, it's amazing.
It's quite literally "Little Miss Sunshine" meets "Godzilla."
Is the baby white and blondish? Let's call Nancy Grace.
anybody else hoping bunnpants & pickles
left their passports behind and won't be able to get back into the country?
I love the 'warm' reception the two of them are getting down there. Warm as in burning in effigy.
MSM is blaming it on Chavez. That's bullshit. Bootsy is a hated jackoff. And I bet Pickles can't even make macaroni and cheese if you gave her a box of the shit.
Is Andrew Sullivan high today? He is linking to pictures of bugs hitting windshields.
Just some of his Republican buddies.
you set the burner to high, put hot water on in the sink. You preheat the oven. You cook the pasta 2 minutes from al dente, and while the pasta is cooking, you make your cheese sauce. drain, combine the pasta and cheese sauce and bake. An hour max until you are finished.
Oh, and Galt is full of shit on casualty numbers too.
trifecta
Better: cooke the macaroni, drain it, add a tablespoon of butter and mix a tablespoon of dried mustard and a 1/4 tsp of salt in 2 tablespoons hot water and add. Add the cheese, grated, then two whole eggs beaten in a cup of milk, pour over, bake for 45 minutes at 350 until brown and bubbly. It's way superior to the kind made with a white sauce with cheese, IMnotsoHO. [smile]
Is Andrew Sullivan high today? He is linking to pictures of bugs hitting windshields.
It's a metaphor, I bet.
Shorter liberals: Stop pointing out that our sacred cows are actually sacred bullshit.
I bet Pickles can't even make macaroni and cheese if you gave her a box of the shit.
billy b - lazy poker blues
But...but...she was a librarian! You can't say anything bad about librarians!! Why do you hate America?!?
[/my in-laws]
I never metaphor I didn't like
Lancet= to or better than New England Journal of Medicine
AH tries and fails to make a point yet again.
Yo Squawk -
Can you make macaroni and cheese?
Shorter liberals: Stop pointing out that our sacred cows are actually sacred bullshit.
American Hawk
Thanks AH, for clearing it up = all the Repugs' sacred cows are actually sacred bullshit.
But it never hurts to see it posted in a comment.
[smile]
I esp. liked this from Deltoid's comments:
The last quote you offered in the post before this cited a time that works out to 11.78 minutes. This is not equal to 15-20 minutes.
THE GOGGLES! THEY DO NOTHING!!!
Hey Atrios, one of your dumber trolls is here!
AH tries and fails to make a point yet again.
plantsman, lowercase
*makes that sound of agreement Gabby Johnson made in Blazing Saddles*
give a teaser..whats it a bout?
and at my Lab the Lancet was teh important
sittenpretty,MCISUCKS | 03.10.07 - 11:42 am | #
It's a remake of The 300 Spartans, based on a graphic novel by noted wingnut Frank Miller, about the Battle of Thermopylae, which translates (as the characers keep saying) as Hot Gates.
Hot Gates indeed. Strong homo-erotic undertone to this puppy. And it actually features Teenage Mutan Ninjas (they're not turtles, however) and there's a scene where two women get it on with an Elephant Man (rather tepidly, alas).
Not quite bad enough to be funny, but ultimately it's hard to take seriously.
"The reason is that I imagined only the highlights: operating the food processor, stirring the sauce, etc. I forgot about all the little things that slow you down: opening the wrapper, finding the spoon, having the cheese get caught in the blade, etc."
Someone please keep sharp knives away from this woman.
ok must go make bread ,and rolls for party tonite ...later batis,and bats
ok must go make bread ,and rolls for party tonite ...later batis,and bats
all the Repugs' sacred cows are actually sacred bullshit.
- Little Boots being at the top of the list.
- with Victory in Iraq a close second.
But what I wanted to blog about is a somewhat related phenomenon, which is the systematic human tendency to underestimate how long things take.
Chimpy to farmer: "How long's it take tuh milk yer cow?"
Farmer: "This here's a bull."
chicken hawk is doing wing nut welfare overtime.
The wingnuts will only be happy with a survey that concludes that Iraqis love us being there.
Of course, that survey would take longer to conduct. You can't waterboard someone in under an hour. It takes about the same amount of time to make mac and cheese.
I'm afraid to glance at the newspaper, lately it's been a total bust.
steve simels
She smacks head and says
"You are so right"
ps do you have any "semels" in your family my mother's single name
YouTube is not cooperating.
.
Hey Batz - I just realized that I'm in a damn good mood today!
Hooray! Finally. I've been cranky ever since I got home last Saturday. Nice to not be.
[back to the regularly scheduled snark; sorry about that.]
yes, go see the host. increase the size of my cousin-in-law's bank account.
#1 on my must-see list.
Shorter liberals: Stop pointing out that our sacred cows are actually sacred bullshit.
American Hawk | 03.10.07 - 11:44 am | #
Shorter me: Just come out an admit that for satiny sheen and sheer volcanic power, nothing in the known universe surpasses what emanantes from my groinal area.
And tell Steve Simels to stop namestealing.
I bet Pickles can't even make macaroni and cheese if you gave her a box of the shit.
billy b - lazy poker blues
But...but...she was a librarian! You can't say anything bad about librarians!! Why do you hate America?!?
She was probably the mean old lady who shushed the kids and got her trees TPed.
The war in Iraq is a smashing success.
Anybody who won't admit this is a poopyhead.
Ah, the nutsac moment arrives. Was it good for you, too?
Alfred Einstein + Brad Pitt = Dick Cheney.
But...but...she was a librarian! You can't say anything bad about librarians!! Why do you hate America?!?
for a year.
she was a librarian for a year.
just like Jenna was a teacher's assistant for 6 months.
Democrats are the real homophobes. That's why they like John Kerry and John Edwards, who are totally gay.
ALFRED Einstein?
Oh, Atrios. Your trolls are soooo dumb.
Better: cooke the macaroni, drain it, add a tablespoon of butter and mix a tablespoon of dried mustard and a 1/4 tsp of salt in 2 tablespoons hot water and add. Add the cheese, grated, then two whole eggs beaten in a cup of milk, pour over, bake for 45 minutes at 350 until brown and bubbly. It's way superior to the kind made with a white sauce with cheese, IMnotsoHO. [smile]
Tena
(I am wayyyy too easy to distract with Food Chat.)
I have never been able to make macaroni and cheese worth a hoot.
I'm'a try this method. (I did fairly well with a three-cheese -- including gorgonzola -- from the New Basics, once.)
Of course, unless that's simels...
in which case, it's GEEEENIUS!
Democrats are the real homophobes. That's why they like John Kerry and John Edwards, who are totally gay.
American Hawk
Has it been determined whether or not this is a parody?
Yah, AH, cause the homophobes just looooove Teh Gay.
????????????
But, but, now Jenna's *writing* a book about a Central American single mother with HIV. Talk about a morbid imagination!!!
Democrats are the real homophobes. That's why they like John Kerry and John Edwards, who are totally gay.
Wow, that made as much sense as TN state rep Stacey "Death Certs For Fetuses" Campfield arguing that local wingnut Terry Frank can be excused for thinking she had a scoop on 14-year-old IAEA declarations 'cause the liberal media wasn't covering it 24/7 for the past 14 years!
.
who is jane galt?
I don't know, but apparently she has a helluva recipe for slow-cooked macaroni & cheese.
do you have any "semels" in your family my mother's single name
Liars for Bush | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 11:50 am | # M
Not that I know of. Actually, the name, back in the old country, was originally Simelwitz.
Kraft or Velveeta? Discuss.
But, but, now Jenna's *writing* a book about a Central American single mother with HIV. Talk about a morbid imagination!!!
I understand Joe Klein is ghostwriting it.
watertiger:
Drop what ever you're doing and get thee to "The Host."
It's so cool....
Trick Question. Kraft makes Velveeta.
Actually, the name, back in the old country, was originally Simelwitz.
Wait! You're . . . Jewish?!
Velveeta and Miracle Whip, biotches!
Better living through chemistry!
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I'm'a try this method. (I did fairly well with a three-cheese -- including gorgonzola -- from the New Basics, once.)
Virginia
That recipe was originally Helen Corbitt's recipe - she was the head chef for the Zodiac Room at Neimans and put it on the map. Trust me with this recipe - it makes the most heavenly mac and cheese in the whole universe. It is basically an egg custard with a lot of cheese and macaroni in it. It gets beautifully crusty on top and it's delicious in slices microwaved til hot - in fact, it's probably better that way than first out of the oven, cause it hasn't really tempered until it cools off.
I eat this for breakfast, lunch and dinner in Colorado and I'm sure I'll keel over someday from the cholesterol. But it's fucking worth it!
But...but...she was a librarian! You can't say anything bad about librarians!! Why do you hate America?!?
Yah. Reminding me to update her wiki entry. Oddly, it had overlooked her vehicular homicide. Most librarians would find such an oversight offensive.
...the name, back in the old country, was originally Simelwitz.
AHA! I knew it all along...
YouTube is being almost as much of a caaaaak as haloscan't has been, lately. I uploaded the clip 35 minutes ago, and it's STILL not available.
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in which case, it's GEEEENIUS!
watertiger | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 11:54 am | #
Thanks, kiddo.
ACtually, I stole that from a Simpsons parody of Fox News crawls.
Velveeta and Miracle Whip, biotches!
Good Lord! *choke*
Drop what ever you're doing and get thee to "The Host."
As soon as I can.
Did you read Anthony Lane's review? Freakin' amazing.
Haven't gotten to Manolo Blahnik's (or whatever her name is) review in the Times yet.
Who is Jane Galt?
From Wikipedia:
Megan McArdle (born January 29, 1973) is a New York City-based blogger and journalist who is temporarily stationed in Washington DC.
On her blog she writes under the pen name "Jane Galt". The name is a play on "John Galt", the name of a central character in Ayn Rand's Objectivist novel Atlas Shrugged. Her political perspective, though, could best be described not as objectivist but as moderate libertarian or classical liberal.
McArdle is probably best known for coining what she termed "Jane's Law", in a blog post from May 21, 2003. The law, written with regard to the two main U.S. political parties, Republicans and Democrats, reads: "The devotees of the party in power are smug and arrogant. The devotees of the party out of power are insane."
I understand that if you spin the blender clockwise you get Velveeta, counter-clockwise gets you Miracle Whip. Add sugar and the Twinkie is born
who is jane galt?
I don't know, but apparently she has a helluva recipe for slow-cooked macaroni & cheese.
It takes 5-10 years, costs upwards of 2 trillion dollars and requires 8 gazillion gallons of blood, but it's well worth it come dinner time.
Must run, lovely batties, to take Older Child Soprano to apply for some more summer jobs before she goes back to college tomorrow.
She's applying all over town in a desperate attempt not to work at the baseball stadium in the funnel cake booth again.
Shouldn't that be diddler?
Michiko Kakutani?
Good morning batistas!
It's looking a lot like summer in SoCal 
It takes 5-10 years, costs upwards of 2 trillion dollars and requires 8 gazillion gallons of blood, but it's well worth it come dinner time.
Like knuckle blood in latkes, it's the soldiers' and civilians' blood that makes her mac 'n cheese special.
BTW, "Wild Hogs" has almost as many dick jokes as "Apocalypto."
Fewer Mayans, however.
Typical Hollywod bigots.
Moderate Libertarian = only partly vulgar.
NTodd--well, damn. I can turn out the same product in an hour 
Hey, Steverino, thought you might like this over at Gilliard's place:
The 50 Most Significant Sci-Fi Books of the Past 50 Years.
Yah, AH, cause the homophobes just looooove Teh Gay.
????????????
Tena
Maybe there thinking of homophones, their.
Michiko Kakutani?
No, she's books.
Manohla Dargis.
It takes 5-10 years, costs upwards of 2 trillion dollars and requires 8 gazillion gallons of blood, but it's well worth it come dinner time.
NTodd, Young One
Great comment.
Neither NTodd. You make it from scratch, you use pizazz. I like shredding some pepper jack, mozarella, and some sharp VERMONT cheddar. I then make a white sauce with milk, onion, bay leaf, and minced garlic simmering for a bit, strain out the onion, bay leaf and garlic, make a roux, turn it into a cheese sauce, with VERMONT cheddar and pour it over the par cooked noodles. If I am sassy, I chop up some red, yellow and orange bell peppers into the sauce as well.
Like knuckle blood in latkes, it's the soldiers' and civilians' blood that makes her mac 'n cheese special.
EXACTLY. Wars just like NTodd's Pa's Wife used to make.
We may not like George W. Bush, but we also think Mel Gibson's a little...what's the word?...uh, nuts.
Ach, we provincial peasants!
It takes 5-10 years, costs upwards of 2 trillion dollars and requires 8 gazillion gallons of blood, but it's well worth it come dinner time.
NTodd, Young One
[many many laughing smileys]
Jesus H Christ is Jonah Goldberg a Dick With Eyes or what. He has the audacity to write about "The Joe & Valerie Show Golden couple takes D.C. — and L.A." -- when in reality the only reason why we know of Goldwhale is from his mom secretly taping conversations of Clinton. These fuckers have no shame left.
Jane Galt understands nothing.
You make it from scratch, you use pizazz.
WRONG!
The answer was Annie's.
It takes 5-10 years, costs upwards of 2 trillion dollars and requires 8 gazillion gallons of blood, but it's well worth it come dinner time.
NTodd, Young One
Nothin' says "lovin'"
Like something from the oven!
pfft. I actually like Annie's white cheddar if I want to be a lazy hippy and support bunnies and shit.
Aiiiight. back in a bit.
By the time you're defending war, or apologizing for war, or saying that if a study demonstrating that war is a tragedy of horrific proportions can be demonstrated as flawed in methodology, then war isn't so bad, you have already demonstrated yourself rather unambiguously for what you are.
naked lunch--I was utterly appalled at Goldberg's piece in the LAT this week.
I went to the chat with Goldberg online for a short time afterwards. It was moderated. Basically, there was no chance to ask anything resembling real questions; the moderator would delete them.
(Amy's frozen foods have too many carbs, but the recipes are all tasty as all get out)
Jesus H Christ is Jonah Goldberg a Dick With Eyes or what.
The putrid crotchfruit doesn't fall far from the putrid crotch.
hey sallyh: how come, when I debated in school, they didn't prescreen my questions? Could have done better if they had...
I just got a nice thank you card back from Osama for the 50th Birthday card I sent him, he said to tell all of you hello.
pfft. I actually like Annie's white cheddar if I want to be a lazy hippy and support bunnies and shit.
I love it. And then I add parmesan and Cabot cheddar to the sauce, along with broccy and tuna. Yum.
And I'm not a hippy, but I am lazy.
Sallyh,
Rather remarkable column on many levels wasn't it? I'm speechless that it made into print on a major newspaper.
it's wisconsin cheddar though NTODD. How could you?
I always put Catsup (well sometimes I use ketchup) on my Mac and Cheese. (It always embarrasses my wife whenever we order Mac n Cheese in Paris at a 3 star restaurant and the chef comes out of the back screaming with a cleaver in his hands when he hears I put ze catsup on eet.)
dave™© - Naturally, people will take issue with that list.
My problem with it: No Octavia Butler and I think her trilogy, Lilith's Brood is one of the most significant and important Sci-fi series I've ever read.
And maybe sci-fi and fantasy writers and critics don't consider Doris Lessing a sci fi/fantasy writer, but her Canopus in Argus series of sci fi - especially the one about earth - Shikasta - are very important books.
Oh, the shame.
Posted this the other day, but I feel compelled to repeat it:
It's now official -- I am a Complete and Total Wimp.
Yes, I have decided I like "The Riddle" by Five for Fighting.
I'm so emarassed.
naked lunch--I'm not surprised, in view of the fact that the publisher is the wingnut David Hiller.
Steve Simels apologizes for his bad taste.
But...but...she was a librarian! You can't say anything bad about librarians!! Why do you hate America?!?
[/my in-laws]
Soprano, sempre libera | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 11:44 am
They should ask actual librarians. I know of only one who actually likes her (that, alas, would be my boss).
ProfWombat--it was really a joke. I gave up after 30 minutes; one couldn't ask a substantive question.
I need some good coffee and perhaps some fresh pineapple and berries to get moving
The Left shouldn't celebrate the Libby trial. David Greenberg, New York Post
It's the verdict that's cause for celebrating.
Neither NTodd. You make it from scratch, you use pizazz. I like shredding some pepper jack, mozarella, and some sharp VERMONT cheddar. I then make a white sauce with milk, onion, bay leaf, and minced garlic simmering for a bit, strain out the onion, bay leaf and garlic, make a roux, turn it into a cheese sauce, with VERMONT cheddar and pour it over the par cooked noodles. If I am sassy, I chop up some red, yellow and orange bell peppers into the sauce as well.
No offense, trifecta, but that's not macaroni and cheese. That's a casserole of another kind.
Mac and cheese is mac and cheese. I will fight anyone to the death over this. It is my favorite food.
it's wisconsin cheddar though NTODD. How could you?
I add Cabot!
The putrid crotchfruit doesn't fall far from the putrid crotch.
Little Brøther | 03.10.07 - 12:06 pm | #
At the height of the Great Fellatio Crisis of 1998, the mother famously told an interviewer that we had to impeach Clinton because "for all we know he could be finger-fucking Chelsea."
Jonah's scum from a family of scum. A scumette, if you will.
Naturally, people will take issue with that list.
Well, it's not my list... though I think I've read a good 85% of it.
Was glad to see one of my favorites in the 20s - Zelazney's "Lord of Light." I still think that would make a great movie (or even better - an extended HBO mini-series).
Interesting how there's so little from the last 25 years or so.
Morning Kids!
I got this quote from over at SadlyNo from a post on the reaction in wingosphere to a bad review of the movie 300:
I guess we now have to see “300.” VDH says it’s really good, and it seems like all the right people might wind up hating it.
As has been recently well documented recently by Digby and Greenwald, the right hates the left, it is their entire reason to exist. They love the things we hate because we hate those things. They simply wish to piss us off and would run off a cliff if that would have the intended consequence.
We need to start loving the grand Imperial Adventure, and its figurehead.
If we are convincing enough the 30 percenter's will descend upon one another like a box full of rats.
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But refresh my memory -- what am I burning for you? Was it Eggs Over Easy? Cause if so, it's done.
Remind me never to eat at your house.
Anyway, IMHO, the DEFINITIVE mac and cheese was from Horn & Hardart's Automat.
Mac and cheese is mac and cheese. I will fight anyone to the death over this.
God, I hate Mac people...
Tena--mac and cheese: shred whatever's in the fridge (I use Swiss, American, cheddar, Monterey Jack, and sometimes some mozzarella or Parmesan), mix with bechamel sauce, pour over mac, bake.
Sometimes the classics are the best.
They should ask actual librarians. I know of only one who actually likes her (that, alas, would be my boss).
Buckeye, Dealer of Rre Coins
My condolences, Buckeye. Tough break, that.
Now, I'm really gone.
You see this kind of argument all the time among the wingers, it basically goes, "I don't understand the science, therefore it's WRONG!" The classic is, "I don't understand epidemiology, therefore having a gun in the home is NOT risky."
SallyH -
Nothing like skewing the sample to "prove" your point statistically, no?
tikistitch--yeah, we get a lot of that in statistics.
I guess we now have to see “300.” VDH says it’s really good, and it seems like all the right people might wind up hating it.
I wanted to hate "300" for its politics, but it's too over the top silly to be offensive.
Unless putting LBJ's "Come let us reason together" line in the mouth of the evil bad guy who wants to rule the world counts.
...the DEFINITIVE mac and cheese was from Horn & Hardart's Automat.
Good Lord! There's an Automat cookbook???
My wife had no idea what an "automat" was. We were watching "A Touch of Mink" and she was fascinated by the scenes of Doris Day eating in one. She'd never heard of it before...
"I don't understand epidemiology, therefore having a gun in the home is NOT risky."
I don't understand epidemiology, there having an epidermis in my home is not risky.
billy b--the point of stats is to tell a story. Once you've skewed the sample, you're not telling the correct story. Numbers aren't just numbers; there are real events and people behind them, and when you distort the evidence, you destroy the very stories you're trying to represent.
Interesting how there's so little from the last 25 years or so.
dave™©
Yes, and that bothers me a lot because I've read some damn good fantasy/sci fi that was written during that period.
Patricia Anthony hasn't written anything in awhile, but she has written some excellent sci-fi. God's Fires is a wonderful book, and The Happy Policeman is outstanding.
O - and I know it isn't your list. You posted the link, so, I thought I'd pick up the conversation ball you rolled out there. [smile]
Unless putting LBJ's "Come let us reason together" line in the mouth of the evil bad guy who wants to rule the world counts.
Classic Miller.
God love him for his work with the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. Love your layouts, boobie. Please stay away from the typewriter.
"It is worth bearing in mind here that Inspector General found the FBI's
mistakes here were based on incompetence, not malevolence"
kind of like Coulter saying it was justa joke
You see this kind of argument all the time among the wingers, it basically goes, "I don't understand the science, therefore it's WRONG!"
Exactly. Because science is complex, it must be bullshit. Sure they're mythology is fucking wacked, but that you have to accept on faith.
Better: cooke the macaroni, drain it, add a tablespoon of butter and mix a tablespoon of dried mustard and a 1/4 tsp of salt in 2 tablespoons hot water and add. Add the cheese, grated, then two whole eggs beaten in a cup of milk, pour over, bake for 45 minutes at 350 until brown and bubbly. It's way superior to the kind made with a white sauce with cheese, IMnotsoHO. [smile]
Tena
I am so totally making this.
I want to try Tena's no sauce version of the mac and cheese (which I agree is one of the best things in the world), because I'm sure my mom didn't make a white sauce for it. Unfortunately I didn't realize until it was too late that I didn't know how to make it, and that I wanted to.
I'm fighting the urge to go to the store and make some right now.
Although, re "300" I saw a five oclock showing yesterday and it was totally packed.
With people who were taking it very seriously indeed. Lots of applauding when bad guys get beheaded or when the heroine stabs the evil (obviously a liberal Persian lover) traitorous guy.
I don't know if you can read a larger political point into the thing, though. I mean, if it's meant to be some kind of parable about Iraq, it's too muddled and silly to really work that way. Even if Frank Miller is a closet fascist.
I want to try Tena's no sauce version of the mac and cheese (which I agree is one of the best things in the world), because I'm sure my mom didn't make a white sauce for it. Unfortunately I didn't realize until it was too late that I didn't know how to make it, and that I wanted to.
I'm fighting the urge to go to the store and make some right now.
Virginia
If you like, I can email you the actual recipe.
"It is worth bearing in mind here that Inspector General found the FBI's
mistakes here were based on incompetence, not malevolence"
I can't imagine how 9/11 could have ever happened...
My last take on "300" --
Basically, the whole thing is just a Molly Hatchet album cover come to life.
Funny...a few of the guys on my work crews, in conversations about guns, have been shocked that I don't own one, that I can feel "safe" without one. I just tell them that I don't live in fear so I don't need one. And also, I sleep like a dead thing. The last thing I need is to provide a gun to an intruder who wouldn't have had one otherwise, since he would have plenty of time to look around the house before I ever woke up. And I guess this illuminates my thinking and why I don't need a gun: it has never occured to me that anyone would have the balls to try to take me on if I was awake during a break-in.
re "300" I saw a five oclock showing yesterday and it was totally packed.
With people who were taking it very seriously indeed.
In a couple of weeks, the same group will be packing it in for that movie about the female serial-killer ventriliquist.
That's why the Oscars aren't decided based on what's popular (what they are decided on, I don't know)...
NTodd--the fact is is that statistics isn't rocket science. Granted, some of the modeling techniques require some actual skill, but understanding the implications of a study isn't that hard.
billy b--the point of stats is to tell a story. Once you've skewed the sample, you're not telling the correct story.
Of course, dear heart.
That was my point.
Recently, our R&D folks, under pressure to introduce a very complicated new instrument which was not working well (still isn't) started throwing outliers out of the data. Funny how nice the data looked after it had been scrubbed.
Pleased the non-scientific business assholes to no end.
The thing still doesn't work, even tho it is being sold.
Welp, I guess the UTube will have to wait until tonight, folxes. Sorry!
bbl
.
Basically, the whole thing is just a Molly Hatchet album cover come to life.
Without the draftsmanship talents of Frazetta, natch...
I don't understand the science, therefore it's WRONG!" The classic is, "I don't understand epidemiology, therefore having a gun in the home is NOT risky."
tikistitch
Or, "I don't like the results, therefore my pet explanation is the more rational one."
If you like, I can email you the actual recipe.
Could you email me the finished product? That would be better...
Tena--mac and cheese: shred whatever's in the fridge (I use Swiss, American, cheddar, Monterey Jack, and sometimes some mozzarella or Parmesan), mix with bechamel sauce, pour over mac, bake.
To me, the custard type I make is classic. I don't like the white sauce/bechamel kind.
[smile]
personally, I don't think any other recipe touches Helen Corbitt's. I totally addicted to the stuff. I really can and do eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner until it's all gone when I make it. That's why I only make it when I'm in Colorado - I burn it off there.
Who the hell is Jane Galt? (It had to be said.)
Goddess Blogging is up.
Good Lord! There's an Automat cookbook???
Yes, indeedy. It also includes their recipe for pumpkin pie, another standard-setter.
I loved the Automat, especially the huge one on 57th Street, where the milk (at a perfect temperature) came out of the mouths of brass gryphon heads attached to the marble walls. And it was so much fun to watch the empty cylinders turn around and then come back refilled with fresh food ... a childhood dream come true.
naked lunch--I was utterly appalled at Goldberg's piece in the LAT this week.
I went to the chat with Goldberg online for a short time afterwards. It was moderated. Basically, there was no chance to ask anything resembling real questions; the moderator would delete them.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 03.10.07 - 12:06 pm
Is his yesterday's piece on how the Wilsons have profited from her being outed?
I'd like Ms. Plame to spend a few minutes alone with The Doughy Pantload.
Tena--I actually make a very thin bechamel; the heavy white sauce is too much.
Isn't Jane Galt the same silly bint who was advocating taking a 2x4 to the head of anti-war protestors?
If you like, I can email you the actual recipe.
Tena
Sent you a request to that effect, to avoid posting my e-mail addy.
Thanks!
Without the draftsmanship talents of Frazetta, natch...
dave™© | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:20 pm | #
Yep.
Like I said, the woman-on-Elephant Man sex scene was a big disappointment.
RE: pumpkin pie:
It's only really good if you add a tablespoon or two of sorghum syrup.
I'd like Ms. Plame to spend a few minutes alone with The Doughy Pantload.
Armed with an M-16 or whatever firearm she's rated expert on.
NTodd--the fact is is that statistics isn't rocket science. Granted, some of the modeling techniques require some actual skill, but understanding the implications of a study isn't that hard.
I know, but it can be a little bewildering to some people, and thus they give up trying to understand. So the whole thing is reduced to an appeal to authority, which is why you get the likes of liberal jeenass posting shit from one "renegade" dude who tells him what he wants to hear.
...it was so much fun to watch the empty cylinders turn around and then come back refilled with fresh food ... a childhood dream come true.
Someone's missing a bet by bringing it back in an "ironic gourmet" way...
I make a mean mac&cheese from scratch. It takes maybe an hour.
Anyway, there is no such thing as "statistics." That's another liberal lie, like "leprechauns," "Eskimos," or "wolverines."
I'd like Ms. Plame to spend a few minutes alone with The Doughy Pantload.
I'd like her to spend a few minutes alone with me.
Let me add that I use more cheese than the recipe calls for and I always use only the very sharpest cheddar. The dried mustard sets that off like you won't believe.
Anyone who wants the recipe - email me and I'll send it to you.
Armed with an M-16 or whatever firearm she's rated expert on.
She was good with the AK, IIRC.
NTodd--interesting how their choice of authority isn't related to anything evidentiary.
Ay caramba, my head hurts this morning. I haven't gotten drunk like that in many, many years, and now I remember why.
Wanker of day was done too early.
Assrocket. Need I say more?
I make a mean mac&cheese from scratch. It takes maybe an hour.
Good. Make it Thursday.
Anyway, there is no such thing as "statistics." That's another liberal lie, like "leprechauns," "Eskimos," or "wolverines."
I shot 50 wolverines in Alaska last summer.
I'd like Ms. Plame to spend a few minutes alone with The Doughy Pantload.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 03.10.07 - 12:22 pm
she's trained to kill...
she'd leave him maimed...
which wouldn't be a bad thing...
.
mena--you could stay drunk...
Someone's missing a bet by bringing it back in an "ironic gourmet" way...
dave™©
Someone did ... there's an Automat in the East Village, I think on St. Mark's Place. Haven't tried it, and you can't eat there, but now I'll have to go check it out. Assuming it hasn't closed up already, of course.
which is why you get the likes of liberal jeenass posting shit from one "renegade" dude who tells him what he wants to hear.
jethrene is an idiot on any level you want to consider.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Isn't Jane Galt the same silly bint who was advocating taking a 2x4 to the head of anti-war protestors?
Why, yes!
She's also the one who said that she doesn't think the people who were anti-war from the beginning deserve "credit" for being right because they didn't predict exactly what the consequences of the war would be. I loved that, since I was anti-war, for one thing, because I thought the consequences would be entirely unpredictable...
Is his yesterday's piece on how the Wilsons have profited from her being outed?
I'd like Ms. Plame to spend a few minutes alone with The Doughy Pantload.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I'm sure she'd love a chance to practice some of that NOC training on Jonah since she's no longer with the agency and probably doesn't get much chance to rip a dummy's head off with her bare hands anymore.
Little Sociopath(TM)Watch, Day 15:
Still no new posting on his piece of shit blog since the death of the only woman he ever loved.
Apparently, not even the Libby verdict can rouse him from his grief to rail against the boundless perfidy of us liberals.
I worry for him. Maybe he's dead too.
You know, if Miller had released "300" as a Flash project, I might have a little more sympathy for it.
Speaking of, this gal is doing incredible work in the field. Frank Miller can only wish he had her vision.
Little Sociopath(TM)Watch, Day 15...
You saw him here last night, right?
Steve Simels--are you kidding? The Little Sociopath was here last night in all his glory. And you weren't here to ask him to blow you.
Good. Make it Thursday.
If you like. Bring whiskey.
NTodd--interesting how their choice of authority isn't related to anything evidentiary.
Hmm...yes, indeed.
I really did like that "global warming agnostic" troll. Telling us that referring to the scientific consensus was nothing more than appeal to popularity and appeal to authority. Then he appeals to authority to prove why we should be agnostic about the issue. As though it had no negative impact to ignore consequences, like it's just some philosophical discussion about god in my dorm room when we're all stoned and waiting for the pizza delivery guy.
She was good with the AK, IIRC.
I got a better idea. Give Val a taser to fuck with Jonah.
A rifle would do the job too quickly.
She's also the one who said that she doesn't think the people who were anti-war from the beginning deserve "credit" for being right because they didn't predict exactly what the consequences of the war would be.
Pretty much her argument against this survey - "the survey takers can't precisely report how many seconds they spent gathering the data, therefore the data doesn't exist!"
Sallyh - no, I think the delayed hangover would reach nuclear proportions. Plus, I kinda like having friends.
They should ask actual librarians. I know of only one who actually likes her (that, alas, would be my boss).
Buckeye, Dealer of Rre Coins
My condolences, Buckeye. Tough break, that.
Now, I'm really gone.
Soprano, sempre libera | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:14 pm |
Well, I adore her, she's a great boss, but I think it's from her fundie mom. I had been under the impression that her husband shared these political beliefs, but she said something as an aside that perhaps he doesn't. He's not a 'liberal' but perhaps he's not as fond as Bush as she is. She watches fox ...
Hey, I hit the bigtime! My blog is the 4th Google result for "Grand Rapids prostitutes."
Enter the "Sentence Scooter" Contest:
- Provide the funniest, most fitting sentence for Libby.
- First prize is a $100 Amazon gift certificate.
- Deadline to enter is Sunday night, March 11.
I've always got a tub of Kraft macaroni brewing in the bathroom.
I shot 50 wolverines in Alaska last summer.
NTodd, Young One - 12:26 pm
You Buckeyes are so full of yourselves.
Ay caramba, my head hurts this morning. I haven't gotten drunk like that in many, many years, and now I remember why.
mena
Those mornings are a distant memory for me, but still awfully vivid.
Sorry, dear mena. That's one of the worst feelings in the world, IMHO.
Bring whiskey.
My list of things to bring:
- Whiskey
- Bacon (maple cured)
- Maple syrup
- Panda Paws (unless the kids are over that phase)
- Dirty laundry
Anything else?
Hell -- I asked hubby to put the storm shutters in their full upright and locked position so I can wash the glass doors, and he's called my bluff.
Laters, gators!
(Tena - waiting with breath abated for the luscious recipe.)
BTW, saw something on TV, cannot remember where, about solar panels being produced in Europe that are flexible, small, can even work under cloudy skies. Anyone know anything about where to get info? I have to put on new roof and am trying to find info about solar. I've been told I must do regular roof before solar can be installed, but seem to recall seeing solar panels which serve as the roofing.... I may well be wrong on that, but, wow, it's hard to get hard info.
My roofer doesn't do solar and tried to discourage my even looking into it. But, seriously, of those who gave estimates, he was the best for regular roofs. (Knock on wood--this is NJ after all.)
Ay caramba, my head hurts this morning. I haven't gotten drunk like that in many, many years, and now I remember why.
mena | 03.10.07 - 12:26 pm
geez, roadie, hope you weren't drivin'...
if you din't puke last night, drink about a liter of 7-up/sprite, which should do the trick...
i have a splittin' headache, but that's cuz i've been coughing so much and so hard...either flu or allergies...i'm wheezin' like a rusted-out steam locomotive goin' up a 5% grade
Wanker of day was done too early.
Assrocket. Need I say more?
trifecta | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:26 pm | #
Indeed.
BTW, on the one hand, I'm delighted that Edwards started this. On the other, I'm saddened that this is only going to cause the wingnuts to scream he's a cowardly fag even louder as a result.
Oh well, I guess they would have done it anyway.
They're Not in Your Club but They Are in Your League: Firedoglake at the Libby Trial
- Whiskey
- Bacon (maple cured)
- Maple syrup
- Panda Paws (unless the kids are over that phase)
- Dirty laundry
==
Dear god, I'll see you all later.
My last take on "300" --
Basically, the whole thing is just a Molly Hatchet album cover come to life.
best. movie review. EVAH!!
Anyway, there is no such thing as "statistics." That's another liberal lie, like "leprechauns," "Eskimos," or "wolverines."
Heh. Please tell my boss--would make my life so much easier. I'll start reporting the results of my dinner instead of spending all this dang time on the computer.
Dear god, I'll see you all later.
What, did I forget something important?
What Tena fails to point out in her mac & cheese recipe is that if you're out of macaroni, you can substitute Ritz crackers.
Steve Simels--are you kidding? The Little Sociopath was here last night in all his glory. And you weren't here to ask him to blow you.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 03.10.07 - 12:27 pm | #
Was it really him?
When, approximately? I need to read it....
I shot 50 wolverines in Alaska last summer.
Oh yeah? What kind of gun did you use?
Was it really him?
He called me Prickstein and used big words like 'moribund', so probability approaches 1.
When, approximately? I need to read it....
Start here.
Oh yeah? What kind of gun did you use?
A TWELVE GAUGE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
jawbone --
does Citizen RE operate in your area? It's a cheap & easy way to go solar.
Was it really him?
Most likely. He wasn't too happy that I had called the Austin police to let them know the stalker suspected in murdering that housewife was posting here...
My last take on "300" --
Basically, the whole thing is just a Molly Hatchet album cover come to life.
You really should be saving this stuff for the "Movies" section of stevesimels.blogspot.com...
- Whiskey
- Bacon (maple cured)
- Maple syrup
- Panda Paws (unless the kids are over that phase)
- Dirty laundry
OK. Hold the laundry, unless you horked it from Alyssa Milano.
300
what? it's 300 white guys holding off the savage brown hordes, nichts?
i'll probably not see it...
/
Well, it figures ... there's a restaurant devoted to mac and cheese, and nothing but mac and cheese.
S’Mac (Sarita’s Macaroni and Cheese), 345 East 12th Street (between 1st and 2nd Avenues). (212) 358-7912. Closed Mondays.
Perhaps Jane could get a job as a cook.
Just got an email from my really nasty uber rightwing congresscritter, Marsha Blackburn (TN) claiming the problems at Walter Reed are not due to the privatization of many services there, but socialized medicine.
Here are some excerpts--
"This treatment that was being delivered to our injured soldiers is the future of your health care... Government health care...A recent poll shows that three-fourths of all Americans want Universal Health Insurance. ... Let's dispel something right now. It's not insurance these people want, it's a medical payment plan. The purpose of insurance is to reimburse you for unexpected losses...
No .. it's not health insurance the American people want. What they truly want is for someone else to step forward to foot the bill...The American people are going to get what they're asking for. Socialized medicine is inevitable in the U.S. The politicians want it because of the degree of power it will give."
I've already seen Atriots here predict this attack.
Anyone who's not over Ayn Rand by the time they're 24 has a few teeth missing on their ring gear.
OK. Hold the laundry, unless you horked it from Alyssa Milano.
I've got her panties in a special bag.
They're Not in Your Club but They Are in Your League: Firedoglake at the Libby Trial
SWEEEEEEEET!
I forwarded that to Jane and Christy, in case they hadn't seen it yet.
Favorite comment from Deltoid so far:
I don't understand: why were these Lancet-publishing scientists bringing macaroni & cheese to Iraqi households?
If the Iraqis were consuming this much macaroni & cheese, it suggests then that their diets are far richer than previously estimated, and that food delivery must also be common since they apparently welcomed the mac & cheese delivery.
So I presume based on this argument that things in Iraq are far, far better than anyone had estimated in their wildest dreams, and that the bombings and shootings we hear about might be more involved in faulty food preparation than in any sectarian violence let loosed by the US' complete and utter destruction of Iraqi society and social controls.
best. movie review. EVAH!!
I have a review of a theater review up which is perhaps slightly opinionated.
(If you like "My Fair Lady," you, uh, might not appreciate that link, tho... Just saying.)
f you like, I can email you the actual recipe.
Tena
Why thank you.
If you'd like I can post it on my blog.
quiltsquito@operamail.com
...it's not health insurance the American people want. What they truly want is for someone else to step forward to foot the bill...The American people are going to get what they're asking for. Socialized medicine is inevitable in the U.S. The politicians want it because of the degree of power it will give.
She does realize that "the American people" she's so anxious to piss all over are her constituents, right?
If you like. Bring whiskey.
You're such a pushover.
Jane Galt, as Gimlet pointed out, is in fact Megan McCardle, a member of the stranger species known as libertarian. You know you've got a problem when someone takes her nym from Ayn Rand. You musta met people like her before, lost faux-cheery really self hating, looking to justify their bad behavior and assuage their guilt, always talking about the meaning of life, who get stoned and tell you how their world just got rocked by a novel and you fear as she saunters over to her bookshelf that she's gonna pull out Rand, sure enough...
Most likely. He wasn't too happy that I had called the Austin police to let them know the stalker suspected in murdering that housewife was posting here...
That's too cool. heh.
There's this tune on Itunes radio by the Human Beinz called April 15.
Shit is great.
Virginia and Brooklyn - recipe sent.
On today's 10@10 marathon, right now, it's 1972!
"They smile in your face
All the time they wanna take your place -
The backstabbers!"
...it's not health insurance the American people want. What they truly want is for someone else to step forward to foot the bill...
Could it be that the AMerican people just want what every other industrialized nation in the world already has?
One of the great successes of the Kerry campaign was their letters to the editor campaign. People should start up now to make sure the reporting on efforts to stop o the are accurately portrayed. It is especially important Shrub's false claims all be verified not just printed because he says so
Local weeklies and monthly newspapers are always looking for material. You could write that column on ending the war and how crummy goopers are.
It's a cheap & easy way to go solar.
Thanks for posting that.
People around here are doing "Eco-roofs"....dirt, lovely plants, etc. Sounds weird but getting some play here. I'd love to combine it w/solar when we do ours.
anybody seen Zodiac?
I don't think she considers "the American people" to be anyone who is not wealthy.
OT--My sister phoned this morning, telling that Uncle John died, age 85.
Very sad, long cancer, prostate.
I apologized that I'd not kept in touch with him or his son, daughter-in-law or granddaughter
I told my sister that whenever I like anyone, I get scared they'll die. She said "They do."
anybody seen Zodiac?
I drive by his house all the time.
True story!
anybody seen Zodiac?
Second on my list.
Just got an email from my really nasty uber rightwing congresscritter, Marsha Blackburn (TN) claiming the problems at Walter Reed are not due to the privatization of many services there, but socialized medicine.
Your congresscritter has a point--if we get universal healthcare, and then turn the ENTIRE MEDICAL CARE SYSTEM over to Halliburton--we are well and truly fucked.
Galt/McArdle is a instahackaterian
a small circle of contrarians who worship MoDo and the lesser god George Will
...it's not health insurance the American people want. What they truly want is for someone else to step forward to foot the bill...
it would be interesting how she'd respond if you asked her who was paying for HER health care...
.
For some reason, wingers never consider the fact that the heart of universal health care is simply the ability to purchase affordable health insurance.
300
Its gping to be on HBO a million time in about 3 months.
Just like "Sin City" was.
And suck worse.
You're such a pushover.
Am not! Bring whiskey, and prepare to be amazed at my powers of resistance!
Good question, WGG.
I'd like her to spend a few minutes alone with me.
NTodd, Young One
That probably has a lot to do with the animosity. A lovely couple, smart, well educated, sophisticated. Compare them to the Goldbergs and you will find something, uhm, lacking?
no, wait, I take that back.
Third.
I still haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth.
anybody seen Zodiac?
Yeah, we thought it was good, but a bit disjointed and overlong.
I drive by his house all the time.
True story!
dave™©
Hunh?
Whatever happened to that refresh button down below? Did Haloscan decide it was too helpful?
Am not! Bring whiskey, and prepare to be amazed at my powers of resistance!
How 'bout I bring that ginger cake made with Guinness?
I still haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth.
watertiger
Me neither.
Lance Mannion had a funny post about "300".
Wolcott links to it.
Ay caramba, my head hurts this morning. I haven't gotten drunk like that in many, many years, and now I remember why.
mena
Sorry.
(I want to chortle but know if I do, I will be in even worse shape myself tomorrow.)
I still haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth.
See it! And Children of Men as well.
I'd like her to spend a few minutes alone with me.
NTodd, Young One
That works out well. Then I can have a few minutes with Joe Wilson.
ROWR!
tikistitch,Blackburn never said anything about privatization. That was my comment. I'm pretty certain she would never acknowledge that privatization is the problem.
That probably has a lot to do with the animosity. A lovely couple, smart, well educated, sophisticated.
Absolutely. Total jealousy. 'course the auggies of the world still call Valerie a hag...
I visit malls and shopping centers so infrequently that I don't know if "Restoration Hardware" is still around. But I could see that store opening an Automat-type dining room. It might outsell IKEA's meatballs.
Like many Philadelphians, I have fond memories of Horn & Hardart. My dad, a classic working man who saw no reason to waste money on restaurants when he and his three kids could enjoy his wife's good cooking, would unbend once in a while and take us to the H&H down at 52nd & Market. And I first tried ketchup (or catsup) at a Horn & Hardart's when my uncle and aunt took me to the Franklin Institute for a day out, and we dined there afterwards. Black pepper, too, on mashed potatoes.
My sister was teased for years about calling it "Horn & Hardite" when we were small.
I visit malls and shopping centers so infrequently that I don't know if "Restoration Hardware" is still around. But I could see that store opening an Automat-type dining room. It might outsell IKEA's meatballs.
Like many Philadelphians, I have fond memories of Horn & Hardart. My dad, a classic working man who saw no reason to waste money on restaurants when he and his three kids could enjoy his wife's good cooking, would unbend once in a while and take us to the H&H down at 52nd & Market. And I first tried ketchup (or catsup) at a Horn & Hardart's when my uncle and aunt took me to the Franklin Institute for a day out, and we dined there afterwards. Black pepper, too, on mashed potatoes.
My sister was teased for years about calling it "Horn & Hardite" when we were small.
I hope to get enough energy to write a LTE pointing out the stupidity of her position.
Health Insurance
In a few years boomers will enter the government subsidized health insurance system and real pressure will be there to change. I recommend you take a look at Sen Ron Wyden's D Oregon health care proposal. I think legislation has been prepared.
How 'bout I bring that ginger cake made with Guinness?
And...THE WIG.
I'm pretty certain she would never acknowledge that privatization is the problem.
Sorry for misunderstanding! And I'm sure she wouldn't, probably against her religion.
I got in a little "exchange" with Galt once, pointing out that the US gov and military shouldn't and can't complain about the Lancet numbers, since they've made no effort themsleves to keep track of how many Iraqis have died, and she said, with the typical compassion of a Randian, the US has no reason to track the # of dead Iraqis.
For some reason, wingers never consider the fact that the heart of universal health care is simply the ability to purchase affordable health insurance.
nashvegasdawg | 03.10.07 - 12:45 pm
'affordable health insurance' is always gonna be unaffordable to some...
we need a single-payer health-care provision plan that does NOT end up in the pocket of some huge corpoRat entity like halliburton...or in the pockets of a bunch of already wealthy doctors, such as those who own and profit HANDSOMELY from the Heart Insitute/Hospital here (which did my procedure, and then somehow kinda forgot to call me back for a check-up until i reminded 'em...)
medicare comes to mind...
but as someone upthread pointed out,
And...THE WIG.
And the costume.
i have a splittin' headache, but that's cuz i've been coughing so much and so hard...either flu or allergies...i'm wheezin' like a rusted-out steam locomotive goin' up a 5% grade
WoodyG'sGuitar
Don't want to be your mom, but is it time to see a doctor about that cough?
How 'bout I bring that ginger cake made with Guinness?
Mmmm.
And...THE WIG.
And the costume.
And the accent.
Was it really him?
Most likely. He wasn't too happy that I had called the Austin police to let them know the stalker suspected in murdering that housewife was posting here...
dave™© | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:36 pm | #
Dave -- did you really?
God, I love you in a totally not gay way.
the US has no reason to track the # of dead Iraqis.
How will we know if we're winning?
and she said, with the typical compassion of a Randian, the US has no reason to track the # of dead Iraqis.
Those scientists should have been out there counting the number of schools we've painted, dammit!
And...THE WIG.
And the costume.
And the accent.
Thers |
Or she could just send someone else.
sorry for the confusion I caused, tikistitch.
Blackburn doesn't know how to anything but spew rightwing gibberish.
And the accent.
It's with me always.
And...THE WIG.
And the costume.
And the accent.
And the boobs.
Whatever happened to that refresh button down below? Did Haloscan decide it was too helpful?
david mizner | 03.10.07 - 12:47 pm
the concensus seems to be that ol' yeller-stripe was the proximal cause of a lot of hell-o-spawn's most egregious lapses of thepast several months...
though i hafta say that it's absence hasn't improved things all that much...
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Via digby, a truth escapes BoBo's lips:
DAVID BROOKS: There's a long way to go, but I do think it matters. The money is being decided now. The press is being decided now. Obviously, a lot can change, but the campaigns have to react.
The campaigns have to react, but the media, once it has decided, sticks with its story.
It's with me always.
Like The Force?
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
Restoration Hardware, at least in Catalog form, is very much with us. One of my few splurges in years was some Paradigm Turkish towels from them. Heavenly!
Like The Force?
Fawce.
the concensus seems to be that ol' yeller-stripe was the proximal cause of a lot of hell-o-spawn's most egregious lapses of thepast several months...
though i hafta say that it's absence hasn't improved things all that much...
I believe Helloscan's main issue is that it's Helloscan. Get rid of that, and our commenting problems would be solved.
Blackburn doesn't know how to anything but spew rightwing gibberish.
nashvegasdawg
You have my sympathy--I briefly lived in "B-1 Bob" Dornan's district. Ew.
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
EEK!
K. Drum, for all his faults, has done a great job showing that the VA and Medicare have been really successful programs.
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
Goddamned heathen Steelers fans.
300
what? it's 300 white guys holding off the savage brown hordes, nichts?
i'll probably not see it...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
That's pretty much it.
And there's lots of wink!wink! jokes about how the Athenians are all really, y;know, French and all.
I'm not kidding about this, BTW.
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
Gomez | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:55 pm
i always put salsa on mine
otherwise, while filling, it's insufferably bland...
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Now that I've vented, back to work.
This may set the standard for a pointless and confusing "Wanker of the Day" nomination. Of all the rightwing idiots out there, how did she win?
Much like fattening meals are measured against the Big Mac standard (ie an order of Kung Pao chicken equal three Big Macs), so may lame "Wankers of the Day" come to be measured against the "Jane Galt."
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Restoration Hardware, at least in Catalog form, is very much with us. One of my few splurges in years was some Paradigm Turkish towels from them. Heavenly!
plantsman
I've bought some extra thick towels in the past that I've ended up getting rid of because they didn't absorb shit and left lint all over you. It's weird, but the heavy towels seem to actually resist water.
How are those towels from Restoration Hardware?
I'd like her to spend a few minutes alone with me.
NTodd, Young One
That probably has a lot to do with the animosity. A lovely couple, smart, well educated, sophisticated. Compare them to the Goldbergs and you will find something, uhm, lacking?
ql in ny | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:46 pm
Indeed. the Wilsons are two very, very, very smart people (and good looking). And talented and have some interesting skill sets. I wonder what their twins are going to be like when they grow up.
did you really?
Read it and weep!
I've not seen Zodiac, but I know David Fincher is a supremely talented director on technical terms. He gets everything right, co-ordinating..
So look it up, give the movie a chance.
Also--I'd somehow POed NTodd without wanting any such thing. I'd almost decided to leave Eschaton, believing myself hated
Goddamned heathen Steelers fans.
NTodd, Young One
The ____, The _____ and Jose ___.
That's pretty much it.
So the other Greeks weren't even there?
otherwise, while filling, it's insufferably bland...
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WoodyG'sGuitar, rogue scholar
Mine's not.
It needs to be made with cheese that has a bite to it - like Welsh rarebit does.
That's why a sharp cheddar makes the best.
And...THE WIG.
NTodd
No Flirting!
And...THE WIG.
NTodd
No Flirting!
Newtie is looking at the Rudolph's success and thinking I've had affairs and multiple marriages and I'm a real conservative.
And because he is a big giant head he thinks because of the contract on American that he is as big a hero as Rudolph
I wonder what their twins are going to be like when they grow up.
Hard drinking, drug addled, shallow, club-hopping sexpots.
Oh. Excuse me. I thought we were talking about the Bush girls. Sorry.
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BTW, real Spartans had to fuck their teachers.
Compare them to the Goldbergs and you will find something, uhm, lacking?
ql in ny | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:46 pm
what they say: class will out?
"I drive by his house all the time. True story!"
Hunh?
I live in the town that was home to the number one Zodiac suspect.
The house he lived in is just off a main thoroughfare...
afternoon moonbats
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
Gomez
Um, well ... although I have another recipe that calls for bits of tomatoes, so i guess ketchup isn't too far from that. And actually, this may sound disgusting, but ketchup is great stirred into classic chicken pot pie just before eating. It makes a bland cream sauce really good.
Tena, i know you understand this:
most of my victuals are mere vehicles for the provision of chile to my digestive system...
:smiley:
So I'm thinking of putting together a "Zodiac Tour" of the local burg, to cash in on the movie.
But I need an old schoolbus...
The towels are great, but the care rules are specific: wash in cold water (I used warm, which is tepid here, once), NO FABRIC SOFTENER, EVAH!!
They're mad thirsty and absorbent thus far, and oversized. When Restoration puts them on sale, summer usually, they're well worth the price. Oh and line drying does not make for comfy towels, plus most of the year it doesn't work here anyway.
How long will it be until 300 is incorporated into the Bush canon of Reasons Why We Should Attack Iran?
And actually, this may sound disgusting, but ketchup is great stirred into classic chicken pot pie just before eating.
Egad. That seems merely to be a way to simulate the texture and smell of vomit.
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most of my victuals are mere vehicles for the provision of chile to my digestive system...
:smiley:
WoodyG'sGuitar,
You'll live forever.
[smiley]
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
Gomez
my sister does, though she is the kind of person who puts ketchup on everything heh
she likes putting ketchup on Kedgeree, she even puts ketchup with pizza!
How long will it be until 300 is incorporated into the Bush canon of Reasons Why We Should Attack Iran?
Dennis - SG Mountain Music
Right after they swear all kinds of manly death oaths.
Who is Jane Galt?
Sorry, I can never resist making that joke when her name comes up.
But who is she, seriously?
Roger and Me and the Nevada Democratic Caucus. Including a special cameo by Fox News anchor Howard Beales.
my sister also has to bland down spicy food.
From DrBopperTHP at Gilliard's joint: "Most Significant SF & Fantasy Books of the Last 50 Years"
Highly recommend "Losing God" by Julia Sweeney, which you can download from audible.com or iTunes.
It will especially resonate with former catholics/born-again atheist types.
Right after they swear all kinds of manly death oaths.
As long as they promise to come back with their shields, or on them.
I make mac 'n cheese so good I serve it to guests. In fact, this post is making my stomach growl for some now, sounds just like Roy Orbison . . .
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I've bought some extra thick towels in the past that I've ended up getting rid of because they didn't absorb shit and left lint all over you. It's weird, but the heavy towels seem to actually resist water.
How are those towels from Restoration Hardware?
The best towels I've bought in the past couple of years are some Tommy HIlfiger towels I got at Bed Bath and Beyond.
Excellent.
They're mad thirsty and absorbent thus far, and oversized. When Restoration puts them on sale, summer usually, they're well worth the price. Oh and line drying does not make for comfy towels, plus most of the year it doesn't work here anyway.
plantsman
I'll keep it in mind.
There are some things Mr. Tena is very particular about. Actually, that applies to most things, but anyway, towels matter to him, a lot.
[smile]
i'm just going to see 300 just to see Gerard Butler not wearing much.
yes i'm that shallow.
From DrBopperTHP at Gilliard's joint...
Coke me!
BTW, from that same post, here's a collection of great sci-fi magazine covers.
I hate fabric softener.
I don't want to go around all the time smelling like that goddamned teddy bear.
Am I the only one who puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese?
Gomez
Yes. What the hell is wrong with you?
my sister also has to bland down spicy food.
Moonbootica
Well duh - y'all are British, aren't you?
I see that since I went to record my weekly expenses, NTodd now has Alyssa Milano's panties.
How long will it be until 300 is incorporated into the Bush canon of Reasons Why We Should Attack Iran?
He can't do it. We don't have the gym equipment, wax (for removing body hair), and baby oil needed to lube up our soldiers so they approximate the Spartans.
I'm also not sure how the ritualized anal sex among soldiers and boys would play with the base.
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i'm just going to see 300 just to see Gerard Butler not wearing much.
yes i'm that shallow.
A barely clothed Gerard Butler is in it?
O hell - I'm so there.
plantsman--My sister Susan is firm on laundry, asserting never use water warmer than cold.
It will ruin anything like a color or natural fabric.. Period, no exceptions.
Sorry Tena, my towels aren't Hilfiger, they're Nautica.
I like them so much I'm going to buy some more. They're thick and super absorbent.
I'm picky about towels too.
Yes. What the hell is wrong with you?
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
I also put it on scrambled eggs.
plantsman--My sister Susan is firm on laundry, asserting never use water warmer than cold.
That's silly.
OMG - Steve McQueen in The Blob coming up on TCM at 2:00.
I also put it on scrambled eggs.
You are a sick, sick man.
Salsa!! or Tabasco!!
Ketchup/Catsup, via Wikipedia
moon, does your sister does her food with the tomato variety, or the mushroom?
the mushroom variety might be extra yummy on kedgeree...
My mac & cheese has a first name
It's K-R-A-F-T
My mac & cheese has a second name
It's E-X-T-R-A-S-H-A-R-P-C-H-E-D-D-A-R
Oh I love to eat it every day
And if you ask me: Why? I'll Say:
Because Oscar Meyer has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A
A barely clothed Gerard Butler is in it?
O hell - I'm so there.
Tena | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 1:09 pm | #
yep all he is wearing is a leather codpiece and a cloak and thats it.
Read it and weep!
dave™© | Homepage | 03.10.07 - 12:59 pm | #
I did indeed, but I laughed till my ribs were sore instead.
Just beautiful.
I also put it on scrambled eggs.
I too put ketchup on my scramble egg.
That's silly.
It is better for your clothes, better for your washer, and uses less energy.
4Legs--and how is Her Majesty The Baby this morning?
i've been doing my laundry today.
ooh fun!
Yeah, but cold water wash won't do shit if you're using oxyclean (which I am convinced is modern man's most stunning achievement).
4Legs--Nautica towels are nice. JC Penney also has a line that are like that; I love 'em.
Towels do have to be Just Right.
yep all he is wearing is a leather codpiece and a cloak and thats it.
Moonbootica,
[gasp...THUD!]
4Legs--and how is Her Majesty The Baby this morning?
She's been driving me crazy. I tried to sleep in but she kept jumping on my head.
So I hid under the covers so she crawled under there with me and starting biting me.
I gave up and woke up and played with her. She's just now calming down.
Light, freshly laundered sheets.
For Tena & Moon.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
Yeah, but cold water wash won't do shit if you're using oxyclean (which I am convinced is modern man's most stunning achievement).
Jennifer |
You and me both, baybeee. It takes bear shit out of carpeting - it's a fucking miracle substance.
Clean towels above, kids.
Yeah, but cold water wash won't do shit if you're using oxyclean (which I am convinced is modern man's most stunning achievement).
I agree.
I wash a lot of things in cold water, but I like to wash my sheets and towels in hot water.
BTW, if you want an extra-simple mac and cheese that doesn't involve a packet of powder, try a jar of Ragu's Cheddar Cheese Sauce.
I mix it with a can of cream-o-mushroom soup, macaroni, and some sort of meat, then bake for 20 minutes.
My wife likes it, and that's all I care about...
I don't put ketchup on mac & cheese, but as a ketchuphiliac I understand why one might. On the other hand, stewed tomatoes are an established companion to m&c.
Moonboo and I like ketchup on our bacon sandwiches, IIRC. It seems plainly true that "de gustibus non est disputandum", and for some reason I've always abhorred the practice of picking on people at table because of their choice and use of condiments.
It seems that certain depraved folk-- older siblings, I'd guess-- just live for the chance to make jibes like, "How about a little cinnamon bun on that butter?" Fuck them. They can blow Simels. True, I am a deplorably thin-skinned Little Brøther at times, but I truly loathe the smug, grinning mug of one who practices one-upsmanship over one's eating habits.
Slash me gizzard, cut out me liver, but I've never cared for mustard-- stinky, stinky mustard. Once in a while someone will get on the elevator with a soft pretzel loaded with mustard, just purchased at the lobby food vendor. Before 8AM. I gag. But I wouldn't dream of asking him if he likes a little pretzel with his mustard.
"90 minutes to cook mac and cheese?
Good lord, what a 3 alarm disaster that would be. You'd have to throw the pan out, that's for sure.
Posted by: JB | March 10, 2007 10:31 AM "
well you have to allow time for the drinking...
cons don't care how many people died as long as they can feel bowling trophied for "toppling Saddam"
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