I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hm.
Looks like I got here just in time.
Second that.
*stretches arms & legs*
I told them we were up here.
Dang, one away from hitting for the cycle!
Triple's always the hardest to get.
Can't someone put it back?
Sorry.
Wha happened? Did The Mustache feed Wiki with so many metaphors that it crashed their servers?
Well, if people would've fucking helped me, the Atriot Wiki might have worked...
's cool, Revenant. I was trying to be greedy anyway.
Well, if people would've fucking helped me, the Atriot Wiki might have worked...
The "Wha?" again???
finster!
Don't sulk, atrios. They don't list drf.
gwb:drf
The definition of a Friedman unit may be uncovered in the 27th century by a bold computer archaelogist, looking at the code underlying an Arcturian warp nacelle...
"wikipedia" doesn't exist! it's only old man Withers in a mask!
What was all that about hats again?
X IV
rt
Neologism just means new word, there's nothing derogatory about it. This article apparently isn't being targeted for deletion even, just merging into "Atrios". Don't sweat it.
It doesn't seem to mention the obvious pun tie-in to "FUs" though, which is too bad.
Time to start a wikiwikipedia, to catalogue all the incidents of turf wars and entries that get deleted.
holy crap
I think Victoria Toensing is Red white and blue
The "Wha?" again???
I'd started a Schtuff site...
I shall make it my life's work to get Freidman Unit into the OED.
Then I'll get to work on the 40 immortals.
gwb:drf
Tiger Ears?
http://cgi.ebay.com/TIGER-WILD-
C...1QQcmdZViewItem
.
Strangely, there doesn't seem to be an entry for Friedman Unit on Conservapedia...
If they merge the FU article, I hope they don't get rid of that priceless chart.
I'd started a Schtuff site...
NTodd
You should direct your energies into starting a blog.
evening moonbats 
Comic Relief 2007 - Peter Kay, Matt Lucas & The Proclaimers
are we off topic yet?
are we off topic yet?
OT: but interesting, ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) -- Michigan basketball coach Tommy Amaker was fired Saturday following six seasons leading the program without an NCAA tournament appearance.
''I'm not going to make excuses,'' Amaker said in an interview before he was scheduled to appear at a news conference.
Before this season started, Amaker said it was fair to expect the Wolverines to reach the NCAA tournament. They ended up playing in the NIT for the third time in four years and were eliminated from that tournament two days ago
holy crap
I think Victoria Toensing is Red white and blue
olexicon |
I think she's Pam Juggs on meds.
.
BTW, in case you missed it earlier, there's an update on Gilliard.
maybe you could form this into the basis of a countersuit to whatever Friedman and the Times' lawyers are doing?
It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into Atrios. (Discuss)
I see your Friedman and raise you the time it takes to get any actual payment of disbility benefits.
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I'd started a Schtuff site...
You crazy kids and your intertubes!
Michigan basketball coach Tommy Amaker was fired Saturday following six seasons leading the program without an NCAA tournament appearance.
Mistakes were made. Baskets were not.
SHouldn't it be folded into the article on Tom Friedman, since it is central to his public image?
I think she's Pam Juggs on meds.
.
Agent Orange
she's a man, baby
Dayyyuuu,mmm,
read my mind, all this talk about net neutrality and PAC, just how much cash has Atrios raised?
~`~
According to this article, Atrios had raised $275,000 by 07-27-2004.--Kristjan
BRING ME BILL FREIDER
My favorite flannel shirt is in tatters, and I can't find any more I like. Shoulda bought a dozen.
I hate fashion.
SHouldn't it be folded into the article on Tom Friedman, since it is central to his public image?
Jim |
I vote for that one.
Wiki is asking for discussion, maybe this should be merged....
SAVE THE FRIEDMAN UNIT!
How do we discuss?
At least we have a really nice chart of FU's.
Can anybody think of a wingnut neologism or two? I'd like to look them up on wiki, then use that in the comment on 'Friedman Unit' to repudiate their argument for deleting it.
How do we discuss?
Jim
go to the link, not sure how accessible it is.
I'd started a Schtuff site...
oh yeah? what's it say about Tastee Freeze?
Can anybody think of a wingnut neologism or two? I'd like to look them up on wiki, then use that in the comment on 'Friedman Unit' to repudiate their argument for deleting it.
fourmorewars
"cut and run"
At MIT there was a measurement called a "smoot." Every year the frat boys would repaint the lines along the Mass Ave bridge.
Allegedly, Smoot was a drunken frat boy back in the day, and his pals rolled him head over heels to measure the bridge. One smoot = 6' something.
And you wonder why there are suicides at MIT?
gwb:drf
"cut and run"
olexicon |
"slowbleed"
SoreLoserman
Joementum
Hannitize
Hannidate
??????
fred smoot (CB)
A brick is a false rock or false stone.
Thanks, olexicon.
gwb:drf
smoot hawley
micromanage
stay the course
she's alive
there you go again
Thanks to everybody who responded downstairs, particularly masc. monica & jt on the committee questioning limits.
Hitlery Klintoon?
death tax
Tiger Ears?
http://cgi.ebay.com/TIGER-WILD- C...1QQcmdZViewItem
.
Agent Orange
I thought I packed those in with the jammies. Damn.
QL, Buckeye, Honeybear, flory - yours went out today. The rest of youse - your jammies should already be there.
As usual they glossed over it to make it understandable for the FOX crowd.
They didn't even mention the U.S. Friedman of 4 to 6 months vs. the Standard Metric Friedman of 6 months, and the New Metric Friedman of 10 months.
Pathetic.
=*=
tee hee - Catherine Tate Meets Tony Blair Comic Relief 2007
Thank you kindly GWPDA. I'll put a check in the mail on Monday.
Can anybody think of a wingnut neologism or two?
"Dhimmicrats"? It's amazing how much jihadist lingo those people pick up... hmm....
What about European vs. British FU's?
gwb:drf
That is so ten freidmens ago
The Smoot (unit of length) is in Wikipedia. They should, therefore, keep the Friedman...
tee hee - Catherine Tate Meets Tony Blair Comic Relief 2007
ARRRGGHHH!!! f#cked up sound on that one.
For what it's worth I think that's crappy.
There's a wiki entry for Big Government.
'feminazi' comes to mind...
if you look at the wiki for Chickenhawk the first external link of criticism of the term goes to....
(8/7/2002)Doughy Pantload.
"libs"
"the Left"
"Dims"
"Ward Churchill"
Tolerant versus Intolerant understanding to Islam.
Was that the chart Atrios was keeping?
Was that the chart Atrios was keeping?
Other wiki entries....
Big Government
Big Labor
Big Business
Big Oil
Big Tobacco.
I found one with decent sound: Catherine Tate meets Tony Blair.
Moonbootica, Jog On
Hey girl, you posted a link to Lenin's yesterday that had charts of the areas of violence in Iraq, could you re-post it pls.
Wikipedia has 63 different Units of Time, yet they can't fit one FU?
Arabella the European FU is the New Metric Friedman, the British is the Standard Metric.
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Interesting. Typing 'homicide bomber' into wiki's search takes you to 'Suicide Attack.'
shock & awe
islamofascist
but apparently the Friedman Unit entry may be destined for destruction
If anything happens to the FU entry, it'd just be merged with the Atrios entry. I think that'll happen, given wiki's noneolos policy.
All right. Do I go clean out the ice box, finish the clothes getting rid of, or finish the final two outside chair cushions?
The Wild One is on TCM incidentally.
Thanks Dr. J.
Just finished watching "Best Years Of Our Lives" for the umpteenth time.
Is there a better movie?
Can anybody think of a wingnut neologism or two?
Democrat party.
Moonbootica, Jog On
Hey girl, you posted a link to Lenin's yesterday that had charts of the areas of violence in Iraq, could you re-post it pls.
1Watt Hermit | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 3:57 pm | #
certainly here it is - Latest Iraqi Resistance Stats
I tried to introduce the neologism 'Atrios'd' to the Trivia section of the Atrios article, and someone took it out.
Wike has asked for someone to write an automated script which would make it simple to add new Friedman units citations into the entry. There are too many to do by hand.
Just finished watching "Best Years Of Our Lives" for the umpteenth time.
Is there a better movie?
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Is there a better movie?
HoneyBearKelly
No. No, there really isn't. Perfectly of its time, not the hazy romanticism of recent years. Painfully honest. Myrna Loy. The evolution of the Small Business Administration. Death. Harry Truman, cheap whiskey. It's got everything, and Hoagy Carmichael. You still crying too?
Wikipedia's discussion of theFriedman Unit will last six months.
mmmmmm.......... cheap whiskey!
http://www.nfl.com/players/playe...ayerpage/
235244
'feminazi' comes to mind...
ProfWombat | 03.17.07 - 3:55 pm | #
That had its own entry.
Is there a better movie?
Throne Of Blood
High And Low
The Bad Sleep Well
I've been on a Kurosawa kick lately.
The next 6 months will be critical for the Friedman Unit in Wikipedia.
god I love this blog!!
this from the internets:
The invention of new words regarded as a symptom of certain psychotic disorders, such as schizophrenia.
I rented The Prestige and The Queen from my local film rental store.
Laundry, laundry, laundry. All day long.
.
You still crying too?
Yes.
I start with the scene when Frederic March comes home and Myrna Loy is in the kitchen and she just stops washing dishes...damn.
Perfect.
Do I go clean out the ice box, finish the clothes getting rid of, or finish the final two outside chair cushions?
Finish the chair cushions.
In a hundred years, people will use Friedman Units but have no idea who it is named after.
'feminazi' comes to mind...
ProfWombat
You have no idea how much I wish never to hear or read that term again.
Dr. Plotke's final contention is that the district court erred by rejecting as irrelevant to the pretext issue her evidence of several incidents not directly related to the termination decision. These incidents include but are not limited to: referring to Dr. Plotke as "Jane" instead of "Dr."; calling her a "femi-Nazi" and "wire-head," aplt. app. at 315-16, 522, 631; advising her that she "should be quiet and not make [her]self noticed," id. at 316; remarking that her presence would prevent the all-male group from "sitting around drinking beer, smoking cigars, and farting" on a professional staff ride, id. at 521, 1028; comments that CAC was under pressure to hire a female historian; and disparaging Dr. Plotke's professional competence and yelling at her to "keep [her] mouth shut" in the presence of her peers and supervisor. Id. at 330. The district court held that these incidents "do not constitute direct evidence of gender discrimination," Plotke, 2002 WL 1461974, at *5, and that under McDonnell Douglas, they would only be considered if offered as pretext evidence on the issue of the falsity of defendant's stated reasons for termination. We disagree.
Can Arthur and I see a picture of Josie?
I gotta decide which Kurosawa to watch next, maybe Stray Dogs.
I gotta decide which Kurosawa to watch next, maybe Stray Dogs.
I thought the "Friedman" was a unit to evaluate how off cottage cheese was. Live and learn.
Further Wikipedia resaerch establishes that Oliver Smoot, of bridge measuring fame, is the cousin of George Smoot, who won the Nobel Prize for his work on the cosmic background radiation...
Gordon Gets Lucky, Lucky, Lucky
GWPDA: tell me how to do it, or send me your email: KempsterMD@comcast.net
Myrna Loy, didn't she sue Red Channels when they were trying to McCarthyize her?
She was a good actor. At one point her nose was considered the most desireable by people getting nose jobs.
Further Wikipedia resaerch establishes that Oliver Smoot, of bridge measuring fame, is the cousin of George Smoot, who won the Nobel Prize for his work on the cosmic background radiation...
My HS chem book was written by Chuck Smoot.
The Friedman Unit belongs on dkosopedia, really. Reading through the discussion at wikipedia about the FU page, there's some validity to the arguments of following the guidelines wikipedia has.
Better way to save the FU at wikipedia is to create a new entry for what Atrios is referencing, the magic fairy handclapping view of how Iraq will get better if it's just ignored for a period of time. And then the FU can be part of that.
Friedman Unit entry is 7 times the length of the Atrios entry.
I propose merging Atrios into one FU.
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She was a good actor. At one point her nose was considered the most desireable by people getting nose jobs.
olvlzl The Heretic
And she was Colonel Potter's favorite actress.
I start with the scene when Frederic March comes home and Myrna Loy is in the kitchen and she just stops washing dishes...damn.
You know what's going to happen, and it's still super-great when it happens.
It isn't simply a neologism, its a concept somewhat fundamental to thinking about how the public discussion of Iraq has unfolded and will presumably continue to unfold.
Maybe it's proper place is within a discussion of the Iraq occupation or media coverage of the occupation.
start with the scene when Frederic March comes home and Myrna Loy is in the kitchen and she just stops washing dishes.
Grownups. Perfect.
.
teh wild one just started on tcm
By the way, can anyone explain why Bush is asking for more emergency money for Iraq, four years into the occupation?
No, of course no one can. Republicans don't understand anything about managing money or planning.
certainly here it is - Latest Iraqi Resistance Stats
Moonbootica, Jog On!
Thanks darling, I wanted to give it a nod @ NoQuarter. It's a good piece.
Three chlorine gas attacks in Iraq are reported to have killed eight people and left hundreds injured, including six US troops.
Two of the attacks were near the city of Falluja, the third near Ramadi, west of Baghdad. Both areas are hotbeds of al-Qaeda militants.
Chlorine gas can cause severe burns to the throat and lungs and can kill after only a few breaths.
There were at least three such attacks in Iraq in February.
The BBC's Hugh Sykes, in Baghdad, describes the use of the gas as an unsettling and possibly ominous development that could greatly increase fear and anxiety.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
6461757.stm
last throes day # 89898998989
NPR:
The White House missed a deadline Friday night to notify Congress if it would allow three key officials to testify voluntarily about their roles in the dismissal of eight United States attorneys. The administration said it hoped to have an answer for Congress by Tuesday. ...
Turns out, hope *is* a plan.
We disagree.
Can Arthur and I see a picture of Josie?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
And you know, HOW SWEET IT IS! (In all of this world, your victory, at last, is one of the best)
GWPDA: you and Arthur have e-mail...
Hundreds of ancient artefacts taken out of Afghanistan for safe-keeping - or looted - have been returned to Kabul's National Museum.
The artefacts were moved to Switzerland almost a decade ago to protect them during the civil war in Afghanistan.
The oldest artefact dates back 3,500 years and the collection includes carpet slippers and Buddha statues.
The most famous piece is a glass phallus believed to have been touched by Alexander the Great.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/
6462433.stm
start with the scene when Frederic March comes home and Myrna Loy is in the kitchen and she just stops washing dishes.
Are you talking about The Best Years Years of Our Lives?
Think about that title.
That and Twelve O'Clock High were pretty damn good war movies for their time.
Good grief, I've got over a hundred goldfinches storming the feeder.
Greetings, all.
Sitting in my meeting. Well, actually, since I'm president, I should be paying more attention. But I wanted to say hi.
Thought you - especially you cat lovers - would be interested (read: appalled) in seeing the graphic I saw in the local rag today.
Greetings, all.
Sitting in my meeting. Well, actually, since I'm president, I should be paying more attention. But I wanted to say hi.
Thought you - especially you cat lovers - would be interested (read: appalled) in seeing the graphic I saw in the local rag today.
Oh, sure, Smoot has a bigshot in the family so they keep a drunken bridge roller 34 engineers know about, but they're gonna "merge" a unit that has long been in wider common use than virtually any other. Let's be completely realistic here. FU's have been in widespread use everywhere in numerous contexts whenever the U.S. has any sort of obligation in any regard to any citizen or group. Why don't they just eliminate Mom, Apple Pie, and Norman Rockwell while they are at it??? Sheesh.
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The administration said it hoped to have an answer for Congress by Tuesday. ...
Supoena them.
Regarding what I said I'd do at wiki, I can't do it. I'm blocked.
By 'Can't Sleep, Clown Will Eat Me.'
Don't ask me.
Anyway, I was gonna argue that (thanks to your suggestions) they have entries for democrat party, feminizi and islamofascist, so wtf is their problem with fu?
Feel free to ask them. 
I can't wait until the LA Times finds this discussion of FU's and Smoots.
gwb:drf
Avant-garde theatre is under attack in Italy for pushing the boat out too far after police raided a Milan playhouse to save a lobster from being bludgeoned to death and eaten on stage.
Following complaints from animal rights groups, the first-night performance of Incident: Kill to Eat by Argentinian playwright Rodrigo García was broken up by three plainclothes officers who spared the lobster from an all-too-real death scene.
A full house was expecting to see García's examination of death and meat eating, during which an unlucky crustacean is suspended from a nylon cord and a microphone picks up the sounds of its squirming. In his programme notes, García, a former butcher, denounced the dishonesty of not killing what you eat. "You need plenty of imagination, and I don't have it, to feel the fear of death as you open a can of meatballs with peas in the kitchen at home," he wrote.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/
...2036201,00.html
By the way, can anyone explain why Bush is asking for more emergency money for Iraq, four years into the occupation?
Halliburton needs the extra cash to finance its move to Dubai.
Supoena them.
pie
they're above the law!
or they believe they are
Environmentalism is an atheistic political movement advocating the establishment of an omnipotent communist dictatorship via the manipulation of scientific data, the obstruction of self-sufficient energy policies, and the abolishment of private property ownership. Intricately designed and cleverly desguised, it swallows the innocent and transfigures their very existence into an occult devotee obsessed with destroying the free-market system.
or they believe they are
That belief sustained and enabled them because thanks to a republican-controlled Congress.
Times have changed.
Thought you - especially you cat lovers - would be interested (read: appalled) in seeing the graphic I saw in the local rag today.
Sinfonian
Um, what's so appalling?
Thought you - especially you cat lovers - would be interested (read: appalled) in seeing the graphic I saw in the local rag today.
Sinfonian
Other than it's not very good, that is.
Omit "because."
Is that some kind of "white guy rap" auggy has going there?
gwb:drf
Um, what's so appalling?
JR, kerosene and a match.
See, I thought the dead cat thing was a little over the top. Maybe it's just me.
Hoggy, you know you're teh gay, right? Just like your dad, the turkee baster.
Glenn Reynolds breaks out a classic
"Putz blows off Gen. Hayden as well.
SO IT WAS JOE WILSON WHO OUTED VALERIE PLAME? And even she didn't know whether she was covert? I can't believe I'm even still blogging about this."
froM INSTAPUTZ
That belief sustained and enabled them because thanks to a republican-controlled Congress.
Times have changed.
pie
and they will never change
See, I thought the dead cat thing was a little over the top. Maybe it's just me.
Sinfonian
So are you appalled over the dead people on all poison labels?
The dumb blonde was outed in a Vanity Fair peace. The Wilsons should get over themselves, patriotic USA members see through them.
100% correct. That is exactly what the intentionally dumbed-down bastardized co-opted for-profit globalist corporatist faux-capitalist fake environmentalism disguise for continued rape of the earth is all about.
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So are you appalled over the dead people on all poison labels?
JR, kerosene and a match. | 03.17.07 - 4:27 pm | #
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No, he's not, because as a liberal, animal life is more important than any human life.
Give peace a chance.
gwb:drf
Hello Atrioids!
The dumb blonde was outed in a Vanity Fair peace. The Wilsons should get over themselves, patriotic USA members see through them.
auggysback
did somenbody throw some stalin era russian through a translator and posy t it?
Give peas a chance.
gwb:drf
It's simply not credible that that dangerous lefty Gen. Hayden, appointed, as I recall, by one G. W. Bush as head of that commie nest the CIA, is wrong to state that Plame was covert the day before Novak's column...
No, he's not, because as a liberal, animal life is more important than any human life.
auggysback
Dumbfuck, I have cobwebs more important to me than your life.
The dumb blonde was outed in a Vanity Fair peace.
Worst. Parody. Ever.
animal life is more important than any human life.
More important than your worthless existence at least.
And even she didn't know whether she was covert?
She knew exactly what she was. Whether it fit into the lying Gorgon Toensing's (thanks, Digby) legalistic machinations was not something she could not address, and who can blame her.
What an ass Reynolds is..
TPM Muckraker shows the MSM and the left are lying about the firing of the eight US attornies....again
Give peas a chance.
gwb:drf
Arabella
Visualize whirled peas
Love liberals, don't eat them.
gwb:drf
Lawyers protesting over government moves to dismiss Pakistan's most senior judge have clashed with police for a second day.
Hundreds of lawyers were meeting at the High Court in the city of Lahore to discuss the case when police used tear gas and batons against a group of lawyers who were trying to get in, witnesses said.
More than two dozen lawyers were injured by the police action, Ahsan Bhoon, a representative for the lawyers, said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...CE9E38323A5.htm
No, he's not, because as a liberal, animal life is more important than any human life.
auggysback
Well, I think soldiers forced to live in their own filth by the presidnet are oretty important
I like the way Cliff Schecter thinks.
Give peas a chance.
Speaking of which, I have my Arrogant Worms tickets.
auggy
Delusional or Sociopathic?
discuss
Love liberals, don't eat them.
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil
That's contradictory
I knew if I hung out long enough today, someone would pwn us all with useless links.
No, he's not, because as a liberal, animal life is more important than any human life.
auggysback
Pond scum is more important than you.
Wow, that is sooo like last news cycle. Didn't everyone already hear? The wingtards ended up looking exactly like the jackass traitors they are. But it's all about Friedman Units and the March On The Pentagon in todays news. I wonder why Cheney and Bush decided to lock up 600 Christians? Doesn't seem like a very nice thing to do to your own brothers in religion. Dick and George ARE Christians, right???
=*=
"eat" means many things
Are you being a cunning linguist?
Delusional or Sociopathic?
Neither, he's a boiler room jackass who gets paid sub-minimum wage to cut-and-paste bullshit from wingnut sites.
Soylent Green is liberals.
gwb:drf
i have a hard time believe scum like auggy are real people.
its quite scary you know.
Hey everyone!
auggy
Delusional or Sociopathic?
stupid
Glad to see CNN is underreporting the crowd numbers again. Yellow journalism at it s finest.
TPM Muckraker shows the MSM and the left are lying about the firing of the eight US attornies....again
Lying? Bud Cummins set the record straigt about his firing.
But condemns the firing of the other seven.
I am asking myself why the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General are not making it a priority to retract the lies that have been told about my seven colleagues (they have essentially told the truth in my case). I do not know why the seven were fired. It no longer matters to them or me. We served at the pleasure of the President, we were asked to leave and we did.
But it did not have to do with their "performance". They all served loyally, professionally, ethically, and effectively. There is no evidence that performance was any consideration in these decisions at all.
It's nice to see Bud take one for the team though. I'm sure he'll be rewarded.
Neither, he's a boiler room jackass who gets paid sub-minimum wage to cut-and-paste bullshit from wingnut sites.
BlakNo1, Widow's Son
at least the sub-literati can find work
Anyway, I'm not really aware enough of how Wikipedia does things to criticize, but
Take a course, immerse yourself. Don't let conservatards propel the propaganda there.
I have a problem rotifers and paramecia are real, but they are.
gwb:drf
i have a hard time believe scum like auggy are real people.
its quite scary you know.
Moonbootica
Most serial killers don't seem abnormal, either.
How is the queer community here?
Why isn't Rick Sanchez out getting tasered somewhere?
I am gay and proud!
They all served loyally, professionally, ethically, and effectively. There is no evidence that performance was any consideration in these decisions at all.
On the contrary. Loyal, professional, ethical, and effective performance will get you fired in the Bush administration.
Step into my orifice.
The MSM and the left are caught making shit up about environmental problems again.
This time it's about that famous picture of the polar bear on the supposed melting iceberg.
This is interesting. Oh, by the way, it's a lie about polar bear numbers shrinking. The population is actually growing at a record pace.
It's great to be gay. I sure wish there were more of us, but sometimes its good to be part of a special community. What's the gay community like here online at atrios?
He called himself Black Jesus but Steven Tari was a false prophet, according to police in Papua New Guinea, where the Bible school drop-out will face charges of murder and cannibalism after being captured in a jungle village.
Tari, the leader of an obscure cult with 6,000 followers, had been on the run since last June, when he escaped from custody with the help of a Lutheran pastor. Suspected of raping scores of girls and carrying out sacrificial killings, Tari eluded police by staying on the move and hiding in far-flung mountain villages.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
wo...icle2366505.ece
How is the queer community here?
The Gay Guy
Not sure but the "I don't give a shit, it's your business" community is pretty damned strong.
Finish the chair cushions.
masculine_monica_nyc
Two more to go!
Is this a good place to discuss gay issues? Overcome oppression? Build self esteem? Reach out to gay youth?
Why they think we would even bother clicking on the bullshit links they provide is beyond me.
So are you appalled over the dead people on all poison labels?
JR, kerosene and a match.
Well, no, but that's a standard, accepted logo. I just thought it was a little bit, well, gross for the front of a newspaper. So sue me. Sheesh.
Gay Guy: fair number of out posters here, who seem to fit in with us straight folks just fine for the most part; welcome...
Oh, by the way, it's a lie about polar bear numbers shrinking. The population is actually growing at a record pace.
An anonymous troll makes an uncited declaration about a scientific matter?
Well, that's good enough to convince me!
Why don't you give a shit about gay issues, DWD? Do you want us to go back into the closet and be marginalized and oppressed again? No thanks, we will be SEEN and HEARD! Out and Proud forever!
First Rudy disagrees with himself alot, and now this guy is not asking himself about his termination.
This shows an unwholesome degree of introspection in people not generally known for their sensitivity.
=*=
I build my self esteem using popsicle sticks and Elmers' glue.
gwb:drf
That's not at all what DWD said.
Gee, couldn't see THAT coming.
I took my nieces to the zoo last summer. The temperature was 95.
The polar bears weren't dead.
Oh Lord. A closet case troll. Pretending to be out and gay is kind of pathetic Ruppert.
Oh Lord. A closet case troll. Pretending to be out and gay is kind of pathetic Ruppert.
So sue me. Sheesh.
Sinfonian
That's a great restaurant, but the gefilte sushi is a bit strong.
i am drinking a very nice Cotes du Rhone Villages, hanging here and watching CSI: NY, a pretty nice Saturday evening
Being gay is so much better than being straight. Sometimes I think we are a successful mutation, like the X-Men, and we have special powers to heal society. We do have above average intelligence, influence, physical strength and good taste!
Oh, well...
Reach out to gay youth?
The Gay Guy
Well, for that you want the RNC.
I should note that my hairdcutter agrees with me - Mrs. Wilson's haircutter is teh BEST EVAH!
.
It's so great to be gay!
Well, this ought to be interesting.
I just got what appears to be a spam e-mail about adding to a blog ranking site.
I was thrilled to see that the e-mail was copied to the graphic designers I criticized, and the AP reporter whose right-wing bias I exposed.
Can't wait to see the blowback on this one! Hehe.
seems that LA article did some damage.
Moonboo - I'm watching CSI Criminal Intent. Is the CSI franchise popular in England?
gwb:drf
The Gay Guy
Pick a less obvious handle next time you want to troll, 'kay?
Gay youth? RNC? That wasn't very funny. That was abuse. Do you think abuse of gay youth is funny? Aren't you a liberal?
Isn't it hilarious how you can immediately tell when a flat-earth troll hasn't even seen An Inconvenient Truth, but thinks no one will catch on?
Sure, Foley, reach out all you want.
=*=
Reach out to gay youth?
The Gay Guy
I think most of us are over 40.
Now everybody wants the cachet of being a commenter on eschaton.
gwb:drf
I'd love to see England's 'Inspector Frost' on CSI Miama.
Man would that be hilarious.
'take those silly sunglasses off man and for crying out this isn't a photo shoot'
flat-earth troll hasn't even seen An Inconvenient Truth
Probably hasn't even seen a trailer for it, never mind the actual movie.
That was abuse.
The Gay Guy
Actually, it wasn't abuse.
It was fishing without a license.
Moonboo - I'm watching CSI Criminal Intent. Is the CSI franchise popular in England?
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil | 03.17.07 - 4:44 pm | #
yeah, Channel 5 gained a lot of cred by buying up American shows like CSI, Law and Order, NCIS, Greys Anatomy and House, its what Channel 4 used to be so good at before it went all reality show and declined in quality (and pushed most American shows onto their satellite channels).
when Channel 5 first appeared it was mostly known for its soft porn and crappy programmes.
I like the original CSI the best and CSI NY, CSI Miami is just silly.
Now everybody wants the cachet of being a commenter on eschaton.
It's got cachet up the ying yang, baby!
profwombat,
I guess that shows me, heh?
Oh well.
I was going to write something to the new guy, but I guess not. Seems like he does not want to talk but pontificate.
If he had wanted to talk, I probably would have explained that when we adopt the labels that others fashion for us, we tend to marginalize ourselves and thereby make ourselves much more ineffective when we talk about issues that we share together. But, since I am an old straight guy, WTF do I know?
Well, I am about to go out to a gay restaurant tonight, and maybe see a gay movie at the film festival before the inevitable "Go Green Gay" afterhours party, so toodles!
Remember to always be excellent to the gays among you!
I watch far too much TV myself, it gets even worse when I'm at home as we have Satellite
well I really like musicals 
I'm afraid I would have to agree with the proposal to merge.
The concept that underlies the necessity of designating the catch-all delay-of-discussion usage of "the next six months" as a Friedman Unit is well documented in that large and ever growing list of quotes. However, these quotes do not use the term "Friedman Unit" and as such cannot be considered documentation of the term's widespread acceptance -- its applicability, yes, acceptance sadly, no.
The dumb blonde was outed in a Vanity Fair peace. The Wilsons should get over themselves, patriotic USA members see through them.
auggysback
Isn't that supposed to be Vanity Fair PIECE???????????
I love being gay!
Oh, fuck me. I messed up franchises. I meant Law and Order, and not CSI.
gwb:drf
CSI Miami writers and cast should just be given a contract from homeland security to solve any and all problems.
::::
damn I didn't even know that gay was an issue here.
Remember to always be excellent to the gays among you!
The Gay Guy
Methinks someone got quite the kick out of Ann Coulter's recent remarks regarding John Edwards.
DWD: I'd guess there's a not inconsiderable age, education and experience differential working here...
gay and proud, that's me! c.u. l8r on!
Isn't it hilarious how you can immediately tell when a flat-earth troll hasn't even seen An Inconvenient Truth, but thinks no one will catch on?
melior | 03.17.07 - 4:45 pm |
I saw it. You mean it wasn't intended as a comedy? You poor thing. That thing has been discredited so much, I am simply amazed that anyone would try to use it as source material....and not expect to get laughed at.
didnt Kurt Vonnegut say that Law & Order was the best thing on Tv?
Where does one get gay tikka masala?
I see DickLimpy has a sockpuppet pretending to be gay.
I am inconsiderably old, educated and experienced myself.
CSI Miami is like so cheezy and tacky and overblown.
none of the nuances of CSI or even CSI NY.
I mean Gil Grissom rulez!
Oh, fuck me. I messed up franchises. I meant Law and Order, and not CSI.
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoi
(takes off sunglasses) Alright
The White House, repeatedly asked if President Bush is planning anything to mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq on Monday, has suggested that the president is going about business as usual. On Monday, that business includes playing host to the 2006 NCAA football champions, the University of Florida "Gators'' -- who play, remember, in a field called The Swamp.
Where does one get gay tikka masala?
BlakNo1, Widow's Son
Ealing Broadway.
I hate the actor who plays Ho Cain. Red haired wimp.
gwb:drf
Olexicon: har!
trifecta: how are wife and bun in oven?
Thank the trolls for 2006, folx. We couldn't have done it without them.
.
Now everybody wants the cachet of being a commenter on eschaton.
gwb:drf
Arabella
Heehee.
i think its safe to say since Buffy and Angel ended, I'm into CSI now.
so toodles!
Hi, Karen.
still CSI Miami is so cheezy, i cannot but watch it.
for the sunglasses!
I saw it. You mean it wasn't intended as a comedy? You poor thing. That thing has been discredited so much, I am simply amazed that anyone would try to use it as source material....and not expect to get laughed at.
flat-earther |
well if by "debunked " you mean "smeared by right wing global climate change deniers" then yes
I think most of us are over 40.
1Watt Hermit
Moonbootica, I know you will appreciate this one.
I found a pair of my "wish" jeans in the back of the closet today: I put them on - they fit. The last time I wore them, as nearly as I can tell, was just before my oldest child was born. . . 23 years ago.
Dayummm. I be shrinking . . .
The White House, repeatedly asked if President Bush is planning anything to mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq on Monday, has suggested that the president is going about business as usual.
Mangled English, feigned sobriety, and fucking up on a global scale?
wife is doing well. I just did a visit with her Prof. She is actually getting adjusted a bit, and isn't so ansy there. We hit 33 weeks today, so that is good.
Josie is the finest wall to wall Doggie evah!
/Arthur
.
And again, Gandhi sucks ass.
NTodd, Balding
I just read that.
Teh idiocy, it burns!
so toodles!
Hi, Karen.
(starts singing)
Memories....
when the guy on CSI isn't taking off his sunglasses and looking up slowly with seductive resolve he is rescuing misguided fashion models who have killed for drugs and single-handedly stopping truckloads of arabs barreling toward paradise
The White House, repeatedly asked if President Bush is planning anything to mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq on Monday
The cablies are having special coverage.
From *shock and awe* to *we're fucked*.
so it's time for al gore smearing since george bush is such a successful, popular president
I await some "jimmy carter is an anti-semite" and "Robert Byrd was in the KKK" smears
Horatio Cane Sunglasses Montage
Come on. You know you want to look.
Memories....
You sing beautifully.
Hi, Karen.
pie
Grrr.
Karen Schell still gets my "most-irksome troll" award.
Man, I hated that thing.
when the guy on CSI isn't taking off his sunglasses and looking up slowly with seductive resolve he is rescuing misguided fashion models who have killed for drugs and single-handedly stopping truckloads of arabs barreling toward paradise
Mabel's Wig Shack
and that was one episode
I am simply amazed that anyone would try to use it as source material
Well, we round-earthers found it amusing, and your lying about having seen it afterwards only makes funnier.
See, if you'd actually seen it you'd know it contained no "source material" but instead cited as source material the studies of scientists who actually have a clue.
Maybe you need yet another new nick now?
I hate the actor who plays Ho Cain. Red haired wimp.
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil
You mean the guy who delivers every line in a monotone?
I think that Ho Cain looks like a very very cheap copy of Bill Macy.
gwb:drf
Ealing Broadway.
Fabulous!!
BTW, Hi Auntie!!!
I found a pair of my "wish" jeans in the back of the closet today: I put them on - they fit. The last time I wore them, as nearly as I can tell, was just before my oldest child was born. . . 23 years ago.
Dayummm. I be shrinking . . .
DWD - Diminishing Daily | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 4:53 pm | #
wow, you should feel pretty happy I guess.
my father used to be a marathon runner and he has these old photos of him running and he is so slim, i hardly recognized him.
i think at one point your parents become just mum and dad and who they were before gets buried.
if that makes sense?
An anonymous troll makes an uncited declaration about a scientific matter?
Well, that's good enough to convince me!
SteveNS | 03.17.07 - 4:41 pm
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
That thing has been discredited so much, I am simply amazed that anyone would try to use it as source material....and not expect to get laughed at.
flat-earther
The only thing being laughed at is you. Being stupid enough to think Fux commentaries are basis for legitimate criticism in hilarious.
trifecta: comedy gold!
GWPDA: not to mention the four-wheel drive, suitable for our delightful climate...
You sing beautifully.
It helps when you can't actually hear me.
I hate it when the discussion turns to TV. If it is not the show HOUSE, I really have nothing to contribute (and if that show keeps getting stranger - I may not have that one for long)
To me, a perfect evening is visiting with my friend in England a while, listening to some music, writing a bit, hanging around here: and retiring. (Wait, I think I need a life!)
Maybe you need yet another new nick now?
melior
May i suggest
"CO2 RULEZZZ"
Ealing Broadway.
Fabulous!!
BTW, Hi Auntie!!!
BlakNo1, Widow's Son
Hey! Baby doll, how's tricks?
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
a guy that actually reads, unl
Isn't that a winger publication?
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
a guy that actually reads
Why don't you just link to World Weekly News, it would be more credible than the National ComPost.
Every line a monotone!
every criminal apprehended within an hour!
every blast of sunlight darkened!
whats not to love????????
Horatio Cane Sunglasses Montage
Come on. You know you want to look.
trifecta | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 4:54 pm | #
thats just brilliant!
[applause]
The White House, repeatedly asked if President Bush is planning anything to mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq on Monday, has suggested that the president is going about business as usual.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
You mean he's not going to tell us how people other than the military HAVE sacrificed during this war? They've had to watch awful footage of stuff blowing up in Baghdad!
You mean he won't ask us to pitch in and go shopping? To stick a yellow ribbon magnet up his ass?
I'll support the troops by doing that.
Ay yeeee. Trifecta, that is way too much Ho Cain for me.
gwb:drf
"From *shock and awe* to *we're fucked*."
--pie
I'm thinking he'll tell someone he's hungry. Seems to be the only policy he has these days.
The White House, repeatedly asked if President Bush is planning anything to mark the fourth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq on Monday
He said he was going to put on a flight suit and stick some tube socks in his crotch so he could feel like a "man" again.
Dayummm. I be shrinking . . .
DWD - Diminishing Daily
lucky you, just don't buy 550 lbs of freezer beef in the fall. Damn, I gained ten lbs this winter.
I saw it. You mean it wasn't intended as a comedy? You poor thing. That thing has been discredited so much, I am simply amazed that anyone would try to use it as source material....and not expect to get laughed at.
flat-earther
The Pentagon found it quite compelling.
Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
well if by "debunked " you mean "smeared by right wing global climate change deniers" then yes
olexicon | Homepage |
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
Isn't that a winger publication?
Terry C
Conrad Black's.
It's been bleeding red all over the landscape for years, they gutted all the locals to keep it afloat.
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
a guy that actually reads, un
wow
somethimg from Canada's washington times
Now wait just one FU. Just hold you're horses there. The Friedman, or rather all 3 variants, American, Standard Metric, and New Metric, are used by orders of magnitude more than the Smoot which claims to have been in use for many, many Friedmans longer. So I do not think that it any sort of valid basis. Simple fairness, not to mention pertinent relevance dictates full recognition of all three FU's.
=*=
DWD I am uber-impressed with the bluejeans story.
I'm only 30 pounds heavier than I was at 19 but still.....those ol' neil young style patched jeans ain't gettin on me again!
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads
name them.
I think "a gullible troll who reads but doesn't comprehend" is a little long, but you could try to fit it.
somethimg from Canada's washington times
olexicon
Pretty much, the National ComPost publishes John Lott and Creationist drivel. Very trustworthy.
Who would SERIOUSLY call themselves "flat-earther" act like as thought they were proud of being ignorant?
Oh, yeah - the 29 per centers.
Hey! Baby doll, how's tricks?
Eh, could be better.
Sorry -
Who would SERIOUSLY call themselves "flat-earther" and act like as though they were proud of being ignorant?
GWPDA: not to mention the four-wheel drive, suitable for our delightful climate...
ProfWombat
Ooooooooooooooooooh! Suitable!
.
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads, unl |
who have been bribed by EXXON
and 10 is not a thousand
unless you can't count along with your inability to read
*thousands* of climatologists and meteorologists.
*thousands* *thousands I say*
just ask all 9 of them.
"There are thousands of us."
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads
Actually it's been proven by thousand of climatologists and meteorologists.
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
a guy that actually reads
Did you read the whole article, you halfwit?
The service identifies six Arctic regions where data are insufficient to make a call on the population, including the aforementioned Baffin shores area.
Another six areas are listed as having stable counts, three experienced reduced numbers and two have seen their bears increase.
...
Of course, tracking polar bear populations is an inexact science.
They roam about, which lends itself to double counting, and they're not easy to identify from any distance.
Besides, polar bears do live on ice and satellite photos show the sea ice is down 7.7% in the last decade.
Then there's the dimensionless Friedman, that emerges naturally from a consideration of his moustache as a Calabi-Yau surface in heterotic string theory...
Bochco deliberately designed Law & Order into two parts that can just about stand on its own because he claimed too many people don't have the patience or time for a full hour show.
I watch it in reruns. Almost every day. It is just about the only show I watch so I'm with DWD, I can't contribute to this conversation.
"a guy that actually swallows right wing propaganda"
More accurate
Pretty much, the National ComPost publishes John Lott and Creationist drivel. Very trustworthy.
JR, kerosene and a match. |
The Globe is only a little better
My cousin works for the Asper's at the calgary herald
Unless it's BSG or Doctor Who, I don't know from TV.
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
a guy that actually reads
Did you read the whole article, you halfwit?
SteveNS
His attention span isn't long enough for that.
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads
name them.
JR, kerosene and a match
troll: ... too many ... memory not good ... too much crack and cheetohs ...
(L-R) My Uncle Mick, Grandad, Nan, Dad and Uncle Pete
my father is the eldest and turned 60 last year, which entitles him to a free bus pass and a winter fuel allowance.
Well, this is even better then, isn't it?
a guy that actually reads compost
The National Post is a Conrad Black's tar baby.
(hands mabel a refreshing beverage)
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads....
his RNC talking points.
You've lost, liar. People can see what's happening all around them.
Atrios may have coined the term, but "Friendman unit" has developed a life of its own and should keep its own unique entry at Wikipeda.
It's used in many, many more places than just on Eschaton. (554 total use outside of atrios.blogspot.com, according to Google.)
Real scientists like these guys.
Not the exposed frauds and lying politcos cited in An Inconvenient Bunch of Crap
Unless it's BSG or Doctor Who, I don't know from TV.
BlakNo1, Widow's Son | 03.17.07 - 5:04 pm | #
you might like this - David Tennant and Catherine Tate sketch
Conrad Black's.
It's been bleeding red all over the landscape for years, they gutted all the locals to keep it afloat.
JR, kerosene and a match.
And the trial starts Monday, the Prince of Darkness is included.
The Globe is only a little better
I'm sorry, but the Glob & Snail is far better. Sure, it's conservative by most definitions, but it has standards.
this troll is quite boring
My cousin works for the Asper's at the calgary herald
olexicon
I read the Calgary Sun on-line.
woohoo Doctor Who will be starting up again this Easter cannot wait.
Real scientists like these guys.
Well, I wouldn't call us all 'scientists', but we're certainly smarter than you.
Not the exposed frauds and lying politcos cited in An Inconvenient Bunch of Crap
a guy that believes real scien|
wait, why are you talking about your own scientists?
I think the guy that really swallows right wing propaganda is dipshit/liberal jeenyus/jethrene.
They all want the cachet of being an atrios commenter. So easy to detect the parvenus. NOCD.
gwb:drf
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads....
his RNC talking points.
You've lost, liar. People can see what's happening all around them.
olvlzl The Heretic
The "tell" is the use of vague and glittering generalities like "thousands of climatologists and meteorologists."
And the idea that one does the same work as the other.
I'm finally getting to watch the Poldark series on my computer. Apple allows you to change the region code four times. I've used up one of my times. It is better than I expected.
Well, I wouldn't call us all 'scientists', but we're certainly smarter than you.
BlakNo1, Widow's Son
I'm more of a doctor of love
Real scientists like these guys.
a guy that believes real scien
Nice non-working link.
Name 10 climatologists that don't work for an oil company that deny AGW.
just ten.
No economists, hydrolic engineers or astromomers. Climatologists.
Actually it's been debunked by thousands of climatologists and meteorologists.
a guy that actually reads
Here they are:
The Leipzig Declaration
Signatures
The declaration begins: "As independent scientists concerned with atmospheric and climate problems, we...". As with the 1995 declaration, questions have been raised about the scientific background of the signers, and others have questioned the degree to which they can be deemed to be independent. Because many of those who signed the 1997 declaration also signed the 1995 declaration, the concerns raised by David Olinger and others after the 1995 declaration are still relevant.
The signers are generally described by Fred Singer and his supporters as climate scientists, although the current signers also include 25 weather presenters. One key report opposing the scientific credentials of the signers was a Danish Broadcasting Company TV special by Řjvind Hesselager.[4] Hesselager attempted to contact the declaration's 33 European signers and found that four of them could not be located, twelve denied ever having signed, and some had not even heard of the Leipzig Declaration. Those who verified signing included a medical doctor, a nuclear scientist, and an entomologist. After discounting the signers whose credentials were inflated, irrelevant, false, or unverifiable, Hesselager claimed that only 20 of the names on the list had any scientific connection with the study of climate change, and some of those names were known to have obtained grants from the oil and fuel industry, including the German coal industry and the government of Kuwait (a major oil exporter). As a result of Hesselager's report, Singer removed some, but not all, of the discredited signatures. The number of signatures on the document, according to the SEPP's own press releases, has declined from 140 (according to a December 1997 press release) to 105 (as of February 2003).
The SEPP's position is that "a few of the original signers did not have the 'proper' academic credentials - even though they understand the scientific climate issues quite well. To avoid this kind of smear, we want to restrict the Leipzig Declaration to signers with impeccable qualifications." To address the signer credibility issue, the SEPP has provided considerably more information about each signer on their website and lists the weather presenters separately from the other signers.
Y'know, it isn't at all obvious why environmentalism in general, and anthropogenic global warming in particular, are such betes noirs among the right. The science is at least suggestive and at most compelling; there's even ample money to be made, even entrepreneurally, in remediation and mitigation; most people are talking up market mechanisms as well as state mandates...
this troll is quite boring
ql in ny
Stupid, too!
woohoo Doctor Who will be starting up again this Easter cannot wait.
Moonbootica, Jog On!
Yar boo and sucks.
I don't think we'll see the Dr. Who you had at Xmas until next Xmas.
In the meantime, SciFi Channel keeps serving up crap.
Is Showtime's "Dexter" good?
My cousin works for the Asper's at the calgary herald
olexicon
I remember when the Calgary Herald was a real paper.
When I had to send out my Mummy's death announcements, I remember the mortician being a bit flummoxed. Evidently it was unusual for a nice lady to have her death announced in the Los Angeles Times, The Arizona Republic, Phoenix Gazette, Tulsa World and the Calgary Herald. Still....
Next week- I get to use my Hudson's Bay Company store charge card! Wooooo-hooooo! Peak-Freens for EVERYBODY!
Sure, it's conservative by most definitions, but it has standards.
JR, kerosene and a match
Andrew Coyne on the "at issue" panel seems like a "senisble sentrist"
woohoo Doctor Who will be starting up again this Easter cannot wait.
Yeah, I saw that comic relief sketch earlier when you posted it. New DW will nicely fill the void left when BSG goes on hiatus.
I'm guessing the rhino-like creatures in the previews are Sontarans.
I have initiated a "Do NOT Merge" thread in the comments area for Friedman Unit. I encourage others here to feel free and add or extend on what I wrote, which essentially picks up on what Atrios said, plus demanded that if the Friedman Unit entry must be merged, then Bush Derangement Syndrome must be merged with their entry on Charles Krauthammer as well or this is bullshit.
Y'know, it isn't at all obvious why environmentalism in general, and anthropogenic global warming in particular, are such betes noirs among the right.
Fundamental principle of conservatism=fear of change.
Yar boo and sucks.
I don't think we'll see the Dr. Who you had at Xmas until next Xmas.
In the meantime, SciFi Channel keeps serving up crap.
Rmj, Curiously Lenten | 03.17.07 - 5:09 pm | #
I will admit, its nice its the other way round.
cause we wait for your shows and you are now having to wait for our shows
shallow I know.
It makes me proud that Britain can still produce quality TV.
Sigh. I suppose now we're gonna have to take time out of our nice chat to clue the troll in that the climatologist he's talking about says his views were completely misrepresented by the wingnut flat-earthers.
"I believe that climate change is real, a major threat, and almost surely has a major human-induced component." - Carl Wunsch
It must really hurt to be that stoopid.
Next week- I get to use my Hudson's Bay Company store charge card!
I just got one myself, so I could save a whopping 5 bucks on a pair of running shorts.
It'll probably be years before I use it again.
(Not a regular shopper at The Bay.)
Fundamental principle of conservatism=fear of change.
Rmj, Curiously Lenten
Denial is a principle of theirs, too, it seems.
They believe that if they think they say something isn't happening or something didn't happen, that makes it so.
It makes me proud that Britain can still produce quality TV.
Moonbootica, Jog On!
When America does, let me know, will ya?
We fear change. *Smashes mechanical hand with hammer.*
What the hell does this guy know anyway? Afterall, he's just the Chair of the Atmospheric Studies Dept. at MIT.
So, hey, if Al Gore, failed politician, says that there is a consensus, it's got to be true...right?
I don't think we'll see the Dr. Who you had at Xmas until next Xmas
It has a cool creature as the villain, but Catherine Tate makes me want to shoot people in the face.
Whattt? I can't hear you, Terry C.
gwb:drf
"
In the meantime, SciFi Channel keeps serving up crap."
You are being far too kind to them RMJ.
Prof, I understand why the energy industry is trying to discredit environmental issues but I've never understood why their minions have taken it up. Just doesn't make sense to me that anyone with an iota of gray matter can't seem to see that they are being used.
(Not a regular shopper at The Bay.)
SteveNS
I wanted to provide against the eventuality that I would move to one of the far reaches of BC - and make the Bay fly/canoe/flyboat in a chesterfield/refrigerator/oven/bed/mattress....
And Peak-Freen biscuits!
.
Fundamental principle of conservatism=fear of change.
Rmj, Curiously Lenten
&/or being bought off by donations.
Y'know, it isn't at all obvious why environmentalism in general, and anthropogenic global warming in particular, are such betes noirs among the right. The science is at least suggestive and at most compelling; there's even ample money to be made, even entrepreneurally, in remediation and mitigation; most people are talking up market mechanisms as well as state mandates...
ProfWombat
It's the "don't force me to get a toilet when I can shit in the street" mentality.
Denial is a principle of theirs, too, it seems.
They believe that if they think they say something isn't happening or something didn't happen, that makes it so.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
Sometimes I think it's like Bush's "What Would Clinton Do? I'll do the opposite." Global Warming is considered "leftist" (Al Gore, ya know, is a real radical progressive!), so all "true Americans" must be agin the very idea.
Same as any environmental issue. Until they decide they can make money at it. Such as the coal power plants in Texas, 4 of which will now be withdrawn from the permit process. A buyer for TXU decided it's green to be "green."
Who could use a cat or two?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Who could NOT use a couple of handsome kitties?
Well, with all due respect Professor, your academic variants are not used widely outside of the scientific community, excpet for Economists, and Economics as we know is not called the dismal science for nothing. Millions of people all over the world who use all three common variants of FU on a daily basis, both citizens and government officials, are not even aware of the existence of the DFU, let alone what it refers to mathematically. But your point is well taken in that DFU's do indeed exist, and threfore point as well to the universal applicability and usage of the FU.
=*=
GWPDA: a store near us in my youth sold Peak-Freen biscuits, which I loved, in their little tin boxes, ideal for replacing ragged cardboard chez Wombat...
It makes me proud that Britain can still produce quality TV.
Moonbootica, Jog On!
When America does, let me know, will ya?
Rmj, Curiously Lenten
I've given up all hope of that.
So, hey, if Al Gore, failed politician, says that there is a consensus, it's got to be true...right?
a guy that laughs at Al Gore
so this all because you csan't stand the fact al gore is more of a human being then you will ever be?
and it distrats us from tlakingf about the failures of the asshole who was appointed in his place
anyone with an iota of gray matter
Nailed it.
Find all of the right-wing neologisms that are littered throughout Wikipedia and comment that they should be merged into the speakers'/writers' entry. 'Moonbat' is a good example.
When America does, let me know, will ya?
Well, we've got one good show...
From trollies own link
"only 20 of the names on the list had any scientific connection with the study of climate change, and some of those names were known to have obtained grants from the oil and fuel industry"
Name 10 that are not tainted and are climatologists.
I think the wingnuts don't want to believe in global warming because most of them see themselves as pre-billionaires and resent the idea that they might not be allowed to make the billions they expect to make, just because it might pollute or something.
Troll who reads compost refers to this trash in the WSJ oped: Don't Believe the Hype
Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming.
BY RICHARD S. LINDZEN
MIT is only his day job. His real money comes from the Oil Companies. Don't bet on him. Even he won't bet on his own bullshit. The odds are 1 paid shill to 10,000 actual climate scientists.
Richard S. Lindzen
damn
peace and humptiness forever
aw hell, JR, it reminds me after a while of arguing with a Velikovsky person...
Who could use a cat or two?
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Redtailed Hawks, coyotes & Barred owls is why I don't have any.
They see the big polluters doing it and making lots and lots and lots of money from it, and they think maybey they might be able to make alot of money too, if they can figure out exactly how you make money by polluting. I think this is absolutely correct. Good call.
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so this all because you csan't stand the fact al gore is more of a human being then you will ever be?
and it distrats us from tlakingf about the failures of the asshole who was appointed in his place
olexicon
That's exactly the troll's problem.
And I'm convinced that it's liberal jeenyus because all it ever posts is (a) how there is no such thing as global warming and (b) hating on Al Gore.
First, nonscientists generally do not want to bother with understanding the science. Claims of consensus relieve policy types, environmental advocates and politicians of any need to do so. Such claims also serve to intimidate the public and even scientists--especially those outside the area of climate dynamics.
Secondly, given that the question of human attribution is myth, its use in promoting visions of disaster constitutes nothing so much as a bait-and-switch scam. That is an inauspicious beginning to what Mr. Gore claims is not a political issue but a "moral" crusade.
Lastly, there is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition. An earlier attempt at this was accompanied by tragedy. Perhaps Marx was right. This time around we may have farce--if we're lucky.
Mr. Lindzen is the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT.
Let's assume global warming is a sham, and live that way. When it's too late, well, at least we made money.
Or: we could make money by ameliorating the worst effects of the global warming which doesn't exist, and it's a win-win.
Naah! Let's party like it's 1999! By the time the global warming effects are REALLY felt, we'll be too old and/or rich to care!
Right?
I'm convinced that it's liberal jeenyus
Nah, it wouldn't be able to resist talking about the "bug-eyed idiot(25or6to4)".
1Watt Hermit: Redtailed Hawks, coyotes & Barred owls is why I don't have any.
My condo has no hawks, coyotes or owls, so it has cats, instead.
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For some reason Mary Martin's version of "My Heart Belongs to Daddy" is running through my head. Odd.
gwb:drf
What the hell does this guy know anyway? Afterall, he's just the Chair of the Atmospheric Studies Dept. at MIT.
"Not paid by the oil industry" is one of the stipulations.
Secondly, given that the question of human attribution is myth, its use in promoting visions of disaster constitutes nothing so much as a bait-and-switch scam. That is an inauspicious beginning to what Mr. Gore claims is not a political issue but a "moral" crusade.
Same question as before: where's the downside to not continuing to burn up hydrocarbons like there's no tomorrow and no effect on the environment?
I haven't seen my backyard cat for nearly a yr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h?
v=TipzJfTMbzI
Lucky for Lindzen the WSJ oped isn't peer reviewed.
if the freidman unit is 6 months, is the bush unit infinity?
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aw hell, JR, it reminds me after a while of arguing with a Velikovsky person...
ProfWombat
Had one of those. Couldn't tell the difference between free oxygen and oxides.
s h e e p s
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"Not paid by the oil industry" is one of the stipulations.
JR, kerosene and a match.
$2500 per deim.
Screw MIT and the truth.
Lindzen had no trouble with the IPCC until the money got flashed in front of his nose. He worked on the thing.
GWPDA: a store near us in my youth sold Peak-Freen biscuits, which I loved, in their little tin boxes, ideal for replacing ragged cardboard chez Wombat...
ProfWombat
Well, next week I am going to Peak-Freen central and would be happy to share. Tho I don't think they do tins any more, the chocolate covered digestif est si fantastique! Aussi, the plain digestif? Pour les hommes aussi des chiens!
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a guy that believes in the truth,
So one scientist at MIT disputes what hundreds of scientists all over the planet acknowledge? Yeah. And Harvard University had a professor who believed in and was certain of Alien Abductions.
And your point is?
Also, this is from MIT:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/20...mate-
speth.html
What the hell does this guy know anyway? Afterall, he's just the Chair of the Atmospheric Studies Dept. at MIT.
A) "A patch of ice doth not a winter make, nor a single swallow summer."
B) His argument is that "consensus" is a chimerical pursuit. Perhaps for research scientists, but not for politicians and people who must make decisions about the "real world." Eschewing consensus in those realms makes one sound very much like a "mad scientist" who wants to pursue science and damn the consequences.
C) If consensus truly is a chimerical pursuit, we need not worry about Dr. Lindzen's (or is it must "Mr."?) agreement or non-agreement. We don't need consensus, just a majority opinion. And we've got that.
D) Where, still, is the downside of what Gore proposes and champions?
See it really helps to believe that 99.9% of climatologists are well-paid shills of the powerful liberal environmentalist movement (which collected the largest profits ever in history last quarter).
The wingnut gravy train probably isn't going to run out of money any time very soon but I think many of its lower tiered hangers on will find themselves a bit confused and lost when their upper-echelon benefactors pull up stakes from the USA and head off to 'greener' pastures. There will be many more "Blinded By the Right" confessionals coming in the next few years and those who didn't latch onto a loyal enough patron will be hard pressed to find anyone who will pay for the kind of crap they pass off now.
I think many of its lower tiered hangers on will find themselves a bit confused and lost when their upper-echelon benefactors pull up stakes from the USA and head off to 'greener' pastures.
Like Dubai!
And Paraguay!
I'm convinced that it's liberal jeenyus
Nah, it wouldn't be able to resist talking about the "bug-eyed idiot(25or6to4)".
BlakNo1, Widow's Son
Oh, jethrene stopped doing that.
Now, its thing is (a) hating on Al Gore; and (b) trying to make us believe there is no such thing as global warming.
upstairs...
Enquiring Minds, an FU in the USA is "4 to 6 months". In England and other early adopting countries, it was codified as the Standard Metric Friedman Unit of 6 months. The New Metric Friedman recently passed for International use by all countries not already using either the US or Standard Metric Friedman Units is 10 months, although in some nations the New Metric Friedman has been designated as 9 to 10 months, but these are generally obscure smaller island nations which recieve all of their news of the outside world from newspapers received on boats, and which have a distended or non-existant time sense to begin with. The International Committee has ruled however that usage of the 9 to 10 months standard by these nations does not violate the New Metric Friedman Unit standard, but that the NMFU is nonetheless officcially and formally defined as 10 months. Hope this helps.
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[i]I think many of its lower tiered hangers on will find themselves a bit confused and lost when their upper-echelon benefactors pull up stakes from the USA and head off to 'greener' pastures.[/i]
Now the uber-wealthy are our benefactors? Seems to me that if they were our benefactors, they wouldn't be so uber-wealthy. Paris Hilton can pull up stakes as far as I'm concerned.
It's unacceptable to delete the F.U. because it encapsulates the tired story that Americans have been told from the beginning of the war by all the enablers of the Bush administration.
There's a way to continue using the Friedman Unit (which would also accommodate any changes to the number of months):
One could indicate whether the FUs are in 6 months or 10 months increments by including the subscript 6 or 10 after the FU.
If you read Wikipedia policy on neologisms you'll see that this one simply doesn't belong there at this time. On the other hand that policy also points toward Wiktionary as another possible venue. I don't know Wiktionary policy but no doubt someone will look into it.
I saw this earlier today but didn't have time to do anything about it. About 20 minutes ago, I went to the "Friedman Unit" entry again, which still indicated that it might be merged into the Atrios entry. So, I registered with Wikepedia to make my very first comment there, but by the time I finished registering, the "Friedman Unit" entry no longer stated that it might be merged. I find it hard to belive that the very prospect of my possibly commenting on the issue had such an intimidating effect, but what other possible explanation can there be?
Never mind, I just went back again and now it once again says that the entry might be merged. Late nite Wikepedia mind games, I guess.
Ah, wikipolitics. This happens a lot -- there's a vocal group on wikipedia that likes to merge articles together. It's sometimes misguided -- for one, short web pages score higher on readability; second, wikipedia's a work in progress and short, specific articles will develop with time if they're not deleted.
If you want to help out, there's the structurist association and the more narrowly focused splittist association.
Oh, it was actually marked for deletion before? Nevermind, I guess.
The page itself shouldn't exist, according to Wikipedia policy for the treatment of neologisms. So deletion of the page seems inevitable. The information might still be kept on some other page.
Wikipedia is not a dictionary and it is not a search engine. It is more or less an encyclopedia.
The people who run Wikipedia are 13% smart, and 87% complete idiots.
Don't rely on WP for anything. . .
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