I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Is this some Mick thing?
Or is it just a McThing?
Maybe it's an O'Thing?
out
It's "Happy Saint Patrick's Day."
All by myself ...
So it is a Mick thing.
Of the closet, Toby?
Good evening, rational people.
And a Happy St. Patrick's Day to you, Thers.
Green beer!!
Say WHAT?
Thers--did NTodd kick the back of your seat all day?
What the hell does that mean? Y'all speakin' that Frenchie stuff, again...!
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NTodd is as well-behaved as might be expected.
We're ready to start filming, almost.
I thought the Lout was Irish.
Frenchy's always getting in my way.
res - yes, Zyban is a form of Wellbutrin.
I'm crazy about them both.
G'night peeps.
a repost
actually it seemed the most fun activity for my peers was smoking and drinking, usually standing under lamp posts.
and on Monday they'd be acting all cool like cause of how drunk they got on Friday.
and on reflection, whats so fun about that?
I was never with that element, oh yeah I was a good girl, never went out either Friday or Saturday night, home every day after school, pretty square me.
Moonbootica, Jog On! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Sallyh, Shaw Kenawe will be in our area for several weeks starting March 27. Wanna meet up to celebrate with her?
Sallyh, Shaw Kenawe will be in our area for several weeks starting March 27. Wanna meet up to celebrate with her?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
COME OVER TO PHOENIX!
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Is this some Mick thing?
res ipsa loquitur
it's as Mickish as Patty's Pig
We're ready to start filming, almost.
Thers | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 8:51 pm | #
Him & tigre doin' the jig?
[sorry--I've been drinkin']
Diane, I would love to.
Oy, who scheduled St. Paddy's day on the Sabbath?
Celebrated my 20 years without a drink 3 weeks ago. Better for all involved, except maybe my lawyer.
I thought the pig was was Paddy's.
Tolerant versus Intolerant understanding to Islam.
NTodd is as well-behaved as might be expected.
In other words, tantrums and whining all day.
Saw Chris Rock's movie. He's a funny guy but the movie sputters along. Wasn't terrible and there are some good laughs, but it's too bad the movie isn't better -- it could have been.
Thers,
Make sure to tell tigre to mention the Splenda!
In other words, tantrums and whining all day.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
But watertiger has tiger jammies - and that's what counts!
Someday someone's gonna post a Closed Thread here, and we won't freakin' know what to do...
Happy Saint Urho Day!
ronjazz--are you saying he lost a good customer? 
Tobes!!!!!!!
How the hell's it hangin'???
ronjazz--are you saying he lost a good customer?
Sallyh
exactemundo, had to buy a smaller boat.
Tobacco was a sacrament to the Native Americans, smoked in the Peace Pipe. The stuff in todays cigs is mostly garbage chemicals, hence the higher incidence. If you want to get the real deal on carcinogens and how they have been 100% curing both cancer and aids, and alot of other diseases virtually free for 50 years or more, pick up Flood Your Body With Oxygen by Ed McCabe, and research Ozone and Beta Glucan. The best comes from Beta Force. The google is a cute smiley puppy with the bite of a t-rex.
=*=
VictorM | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 8:54 pm | #
Go see the original French film that Chris "reimagined", Chloe in the Afternoon.
Happy Saint Urho Day!
Why are they flying the war flag on that site?
ronjazz--Mlle's ENT, after doing her sinus surgery 6 years ago, commented that he was going to have to find another source to fund his Caribbean vacations
I thought the pig was was Paddy's.
res ipsa loquitur
alas 'tis...
(silently curses Irish mum)
Someday someone's gonna post a Closed Thread here, and we won't freakin' know what to do...
Thers tried to pull that one off once on that blog that doesn't really exist.
You know...the one that asks you not to take the "pledge".
I'm not gonna drink beer, tonight. Just not in the mood.
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NTodd is as well-behaved as might be expected.
In other words, tantrums and whining all day.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Every thing was O.K. 'till we passed a Tastee Freeze, and he jumped out the window!
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 8:51 pm |
A friend of mine and I watched his boss's house for a weekend, and they were both chain smokers. The smell permeated the house, ashtrays everywhere, discarded packs, and I found the whole thing rather disgusting, which is a shame, as their house (and its surroundings) was absolutely beautiful...
Pogue Mahone!
As crazy James I was, he hated tobacco.
Sallyh, I'll let you know once she arrives.
GWPDA, you might consider hopping over to visit at the same time, you know.
Dang. I just killed the other thread with my magnificent posting on hookers. Maybe I can do beer on this thread.
Jameson on the rocks and anime on the tube. I guess I should probably write a blog post tonight. I've been too busy lately to update my sucky blog.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 8:51 pm |
A friend of mine and I watched his boss's house for a weekend, and they were both chain smokers. The smell permeated the house, ashtrays everywhere, discarded packs, and I found the whole thing rather disgusting, which is a shame, as their house (and its surroundings) was absolutely beautiful...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Then you get these people who have smoked so long, the stench oozes from every pore.
Out for now. Maybe back later, maybe back tomorrow.
Nick Drake wrote a song about smoking.
But it mentioned "hash dreams", so I don't think he was talking about cigarettes.
He also OD'd on anti-depressants.
It may be St. Patrick's Day where you are, but here's it's St. Drunk Teenager from the 'Burbs Day.
Why are they flying the war flag on that site?
Echidne of the snakes
The war flag is swallow-tailed, they're flying the the state flag wth ensign.
Slainte va, everyone.
My daughter just said "And then there's Rush Limbaugh with his big brown dicks, as George Carlin is fond of saying."
Yeah, Rush and those ILLEGAL Cuban cigars.
Illegal for everyone but him, since he's ABOVE the law.
The war flag is swallow-tailed, they're flying the the state flag wth ensign.
Ok. But it's not the flag that normal people fly.
Then you get these people who have smoked so long, the stench oozes from every pore.
Boehner. He smells through the television.
Holy Shit. Turn on TCM. Princess Leia carved her face.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 8:59 pm |
Ugh. You're right, that's so gross...
Can a chain smoker of 15 years or so quit successfully?
Coming up at 7 (10 EDT) on TCM: "Face in the Crowd."
Speaking of the All-Father, I've finished Pride y Prejudice, The Book, and Pride y Prejudice, The moofie.
Note: The rest of you dirty motherfuckers back away slowly from Kiera Knightly. She's mine.
Next up: Mansfield Park.
I'd be further along, but I had to digress through a few farming books first. Just ordered a couple more today along with the Food Processor of D00m.
I refuse to gig on St. Patrick's Day. Worse than New Year's Eve, which is teh amateur nite anyway. Fuck The Unicorn.
actually it seemed the most fun activity for my peers was smoking and drinking, usually standing under lamp posts.
Come to Canada and you'll get to witness the spectacle of people smoking outside their places of work when it's less than -30 degrees outside.
It's sad and depressing that being "cool" always seems to mean that you have to do things that are ultimately self-destructive, smoking, drinking to excess, etc. etc. .
Zap O'Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:00 pm |
I love Nick Drake. Time Has Told Me from Five Leaves Left is wonderful. Pink Moon is beautiful, too.
It may be St. Patrick's Day where you are, but here's it's St. Drunk Teenager from the 'Burbs Day.
res,
I live right behind a bar that has an Irish last name as its...er, name.
It's been non stop for over twelve hours over here.
The law is for little people; a glance at Rush's physiognomy excludes him from that category...
Nick Drake wrote a song about smoking.
Richard Klein wrote a book about smoking: Cigarettes Are Sublime.
dave™© | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:02 pm | #
I need to see that. A quite prophetic film, supposedly...
I'm not gonna drink beer, tonight. Just not in the mood.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Not bein' in the mood for a beer can be habit forming. 22 years ago I tried it--just for one night!--and I aint kicked it yet...
ProfWombat--lemon shortbread? And a nice glass of something cool and white and clear?
yum--lemon shortbread???
Zap O'Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:03 pm | #
In Ireland, St. Patrick's Day is an actual holiday. Sure, they enjoy themselves, but quite often in this country it seems an excuse to drink, drink, puke, and drink some more. And act like an asshole while wearing green.
I love Nick Drake. Time Has Told Me from Five Leaves Left is wonderful. Pink Moon is beautiful, too.
I performed Northern Sky at our wedding for Zapette.
And Pink Moon (while I love the song) made its way into a VW commercial some years back. Odd, really.
Coming up at 7 (10 EDT) on TCM: "Face in the Crowd."
Andy Griffith?
sallyh: yes, and yes...
In other words, tantrums and whining all day.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I've been pretty much depressed all day.
The bad cold I have isn't helping matters much.
It's sad and depressing that being "cool" always seems to mean that you have to do things that are ultimately self-destructive, smoking, drinking to excess, etc. etc. .
Richard | 03.17.07 - 9:02 pm | #
Very true, and very sad. It's really quite a waste.
Is Atrios a Duncan black-Irish/Donnelly?
In Ireland, St. Patrick's Day is an actual holiday. Sure, they enjoy themselves, but quite often in this country it seems an excuse to drink, drink, puke, and drink some more. And act like an asshole while wearing green.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Religious holiday. Everyone goes to Mass.
dave™©
I saw this today. Ever see it?
Zap O'Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:05 pm | #
I remember that commercial. It was rather odd. Luckily, I knew the song before that, so it didn't pollute the memory...
I just saw Meadow Soprano's boyfriend, Finn, on a chewing gum commercial. And I am not even drinking!
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It's sad and depressing that being "cool" always seems to mean that you have to do things that are ultimately self-destructive, smoking, drinking to excess, etc. etc. .
Richard | 03.17.07 - 9:02 pm | #
Very true, and very sad. It's really quite a waste.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
It's a search for some way to stop the pain for some people. For others it's a search for some pleasure in life. For others it's genes or accidents or rebellion or anger, initially.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:07 pm | #
Very true...
Smoking is only bad and war ok because that's what they tell you on the teevee. In fact, just about everything is everything because that's what they tell you on the teevee. The teevee is 10x refined pure china white. Turn it off and use the intertubes instead.
=*=
In Ireland, St. Patrick's Day is an actual holiday. Sure, they enjoy themselves, but quite often in this country it seems an excuse to drink, drink, puke, and drink some more. And act like an asshole while wearing green.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
...my GOD! You mean all those Orygun Duck home football games at Autzen Stadium were actually renditions of St. Patrick's Day??!!?
It's sad and depressing that being "cool" always seems to mean that you have to do things that are ultimately self-destructive, smoking, drinking to excess, etc. etc. .
Richard
Funny how most of us survive it, it being so destructive and all.
Actually, I have no idea why people do what people do. Just thinking aloud.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:08 pm | #
I never understood what made smoking and drinking rebellious. I just kept to myself at that age and watched a lot of films and played a ton of music.
Come to Canada and you'll get to witness the spectacle of people smoking outside their places of work when it's less than -30 degrees outside.
It's sad and depressing that being "cool" always seems to mean that you have to do things that are ultimately self-destructive, smoking, drinking to excess, etc. etc. .
Richard
Oh, I see it in Center City Philadelphia, too.
Raining, snowing, freezing weather....and people standing outside smoking.
...oops...
...preview really is your friend...
...but quite often in this country it seems an excuse to drink, drink, puke, and drink some more. And act like an asshole while wearing green.
you say it like it's a bad thing
I saw this today. Ever see it?
Saw you mention it earlier. Regretfully, I have not seen it.
Luckily, I knew the song before that, so it didn't pollute the memory...
Yeah...so did I.
How 'bout Black Eyed Dog?
I never understood what made smoking and drinking rebellious. I just kept to myself at that age and watched a lot of films and played a ton of music.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
I got drunk as a teenager because my parents didn't like it. I guess it was rebellious in that sense. Though I never drunk very much later, some of my friends from that era couldn't regulate their drinking later on, which I think might be genes.
I just saw Meadow Soprano's boyfriend, Finn, on a chewing gum commercial.
I saw him on Columbus Avenue and 74th Street a few weeks back.
I wonder, would a silicon lubricant be okay to use on old vinyl records? My Getz/Gilberto is crackly, and I just bought a new turntable, the TEAC one that will record to CD, although I haven't fired up that feature yet.
Anybody know?
IB&C: naw, I must disagree; smoking is bad for your health. Might have positive attributes; I know folk who enjoy it, and say so. But you take a population and let it smoke, and you'll see cancer, lung disease and heart disease rise in consequence.
I just saw Meadow Soprano's boyfriend, Finn, on a chewing gum commercial. And I am not even drinking!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
I don't think that move to California is going to prove very profitable for Meadow and Finn.
Ten thousand miles
away from home.
And I don't even know my name.
But I ain't crying.
No, I ain't crying, because I'm
gonna be a free man in the morning.
dave™©,
Beautiful film.
It's a search for some way to stop the pain for some people. For others it's a search for some pleasure in life. For others it's genes or accidents or rebellion or anger, initially.
All of the above, for yours o'truly.
It's a search for some way to stop the pain for some people. For others it's a search for some pleasure in life. For others it's genes or accidents or rebellion or anger, initially.
Echidne of the snakes
For some of us it's just "figuring shit out for ourselves".
Yeah, I drank to excess, tried a couple of drugs (no habits), learned to perform a perfect bootlegger, etc, etc.
I made it without a criminal record or too many lasting scars.
When push comes to shove, Meadow is her mommy's daughter, i.e., she'll make a few moral compromises in order to keep shopping.
What makes smoking and drinking rebellious is that they are adult activities conducted by adolescents acting autonomously...
Zap O'Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:10 pm | #
River Man and Fly are really good, too...
Remember the early TV commercials
Doctors Prefer Camel Cigarettes
So Obama was in the Bay Area today, and drew quite a crowd!
When I saw the author of this book on CSpan a few years ago, I borrowed it from the library. I liked it so much I bought my own copy.
She gets into the whole thing about St. Patrick's Day and how the Irish celebrate it as opposed to Irish-Americans:
http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Amer...74183590&sr=1-
3
Beautiful film.
Oh, for a summer full of cinema classics distributed by Janus Films!
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:11 pm | #
A friend of mine drank quite a bit in college...when she got away from her friends, she realised they were alcoholics, and she stopped drinking...
Anybody know?
Nuncamas
My friend that has done stewreos for decades says:
NO FUCKING WAY.
Clean it in warm soapy water, dry thoroughly and invest in a good record brush. The silicone lubricants just make it cruddier, and allows the dirt to stick.
Gaelic! Almost no one speaks Gaelic anymore.
Nor, sadly, does anyone do much dancing in the streets.
Finland's Conservative Party appeared to be gaining ground on the two main government parties a day before parliamentary elections, potentially heralding an end to years of center-left rule.
Surveys on Saturday indicated the Conservatives were running neck-and-neck with the Social Democratic Party, the main partner in the ruling coalition.
A strong showing for the Conservatives could help them become the next coalition partner for the Center Party - led by Matti Vanhanen, the prime minister.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...4BE0B211387.htm
dave™© | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:14 pm | #
Let's start with Bergman's religious trilogy because I love Bergman (and it would annoy Simels)...
Through a Glass Darkly
Winter Light
The Silence...
My Lady Nicotine, by J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan) is a classic on the subject of tobacco. Fran Liebowitz wrote something hysterical, as most everything she ever wrote is, called "I Am A Cigarette".
In any case, tobacco and alcohol are not fundamentally the problem; vested interest, chemical pollutants, media lies, environmental toxins, government tyranny, agribusiness, supression of medical knowledge and greed are the problem.
=*=
Nuncamas, I would advise against silicon. Wash the record with warm water and a tiny bit of detergent, rinse, dry carefully with a soft cloth, or use a record brush with an antistatic formula, if you can find one. Silicon will likely gum up the grooves. radio shack may have a kit, and stanton used to make a good one.
And that is a great record.
Funny how most of us survive it, it being so destructive and all.
Yeah, I guess smoking and/or being a drunk really never hurts anyone.
Look out, dave™©, you're having that asshole in here jerking off about Low Information Voters.
Smoking is only bad and war ok because that's what they tell you on the teevee. In fact, just about everything is everything because that's what they tell you on the teevee.
Nah.
River Man and Fly are really good, too...
Used to do a cover of River Man as a young'n.
good McEvening O'Bats
dave(tm): fond, fond memories of discovering the Janus catalog in college; I had no idea a movie could do that stuff...
A friend of mine drank quite a bit in college...when she got away from her friends, she realised they were alcoholics, and she stopped drinking...
Yes, my experience was a little like that, though I didn't drink very much in college. But I had a friend who would polish off the wine bottle intended for the four of us, and her father had lost his trucking license (and his livelihood) for drunk driving.
This friend couldn't drink just a little, so she had to choose between not drinking at all or lots.
Yeah, I guess smoking and/or being a drunk really never hurts anyone.
Richard
Being drunk never hurt anyone.
coke to JR
Come to Canada and you'll get to witness the spectacle of people smoking outside their places of work when it's less than -30 degrees outside.
The Wiesenkoph Society gets no sympathy from me. (Us ex-smokers can be a bitch...)
Anyone else watching CNN? Whoever their anchor is, he seems like a real asshole.
That's all.
It's a search for some way to stop the pain for some people. For others it's a search for some pleasure in life. For others it's genes or accidents or rebellion or anger, initially.
Echidne of the snakes
And it makes me more attractive to the ladies.
Well, when they drink. When I drink I'm more attractive to myself. Except for the drool.
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This friend couldn't drink just a little, so she had to choose between not drinking at all or lots.
Echidne of the snakes
You mean you're not supposed to drink the whole bottle? oops
Being drunk never hurt anyone.
Huh? It kills quite a few people every year.
Evening again. Nice day to be Irish
Too bad I am Dutch.
res, i'm going into the city in the next few days, will make it a point to catch that film, looks really wonderful.
IMPEACH CHENEY BUSH NOW:
It's bad for your health, it's an expensive habit and it stinks up everything around the smoker.
coke to JR
ronjazz
ta.
Said friend just got one of those analog to digital converters. It's busted, but he repairs this stuff for a living. It's going to cost him $300 for $1000 worth of kit.
I started drinking very early. When I was about 5 I had to steer the truck (hand throttle to control speed) in the hay fields while the grumps loaded the bales. They always had a cooler of beer, but never thought to bring a soda for me, so if I was thirsty I had to drink beer.
Dutch author finds own lost novel while tidying up.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
20070...uk_dutch_author
Don't anybody complain to me about how messy my house is. I've never lost my own novel.
Drunks are usually funny on TV and in films, but not in real life, where they smell and ramble incessantly. An alcoholic gives off a smell just like a chronic smoker does...
Actually what I liked about being drunk was saying stuff I wouldn't say otherwise. I'm very funny drunk. At least so it seems to me.
The Wiesenkoph Society gets no sympathy from me. (Us ex-smokers can be a bitch...)
Elmer, PHD
as an ex-smoker, the smell of cigarette smoke nauseates me 95% of the time, the other five percent I'm like those cartoon characters lifted off the ground by the wafting scent of a fresh-baked pie.
I know my capacity, but I always get drunk before I reach it.
Huh? It kills quite a few people every year.
Halfdan
Doing stupid shit kills and damages people. Just being drunk does not.
Well, when they drink. When I drink I'm more attractive to myself. Except for the drool.
Go non-alcoholic. Try drinking O'Drools.
Damn.
Just put on some Nick Drake.
I Was Made To Love Magic and Clothes of Sand....
Man alive.
Suppression of medical knowledge is a problem? No foolin'? Lots of trouble with pharmaceutical companies and for-profits going where the profits are, but suppression? Doubt it.
She gets into the whole thing about St. Patrick's Day and how the Irish celebrate it as opposed to Irish-Americans
I'm no expert but I think a lot of Irish-Americanisms such as the eating of corned beef & cabbage on special occasions, would be downright bewildering in Ireland.
Drunks are usually funny on TV and in films, but not in real life, where they smell and ramble incessantly. An alcoholic gives off a smell just like a chronic smoker does...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Being drunk does not make one an alcoholic.
Is that dirty gaelic?
wtfwjd? | 03.17.07 - 9:17 pm | #
They're trying to outdo Fox by hiring assholes...
It probably says so on the jobs posting..."News anchor needed. Must be right wing, smug, snarky, ignorant of the issues, an asshole, and must be part of the George W. Bush admiration society"...
Being drunk does not make one an alcoholic.
JR
indeed
McFuckinay!
.
ronjazz, It really was. Glad I got out of the house and went today.
It's "Happy Saint Patrick's Day."
Oh.
Nevermind!!
Go non-alcoholic. Try drinking O'Drools.
I don't get non-alcoholic beer.
It's like decaf coffee, only most so.
.
but can you made rational decisions when drunk, if an emergency happens?
OK, so I got Bonus Critter Blogging up later than usual.
A five hour nap will do that.
Thank you, JR, et al. I was a little afraid of the silicone and for sure don't want any petroleum product nor anything that would make the grooves brittle. Gentle washing is all I've ever done to the records, except that decades ago I had one of those "diskwasher" doodads, was so cool at the time. Alas, .... nuncamas.
I'm no expert but I think a lot of Irish-Americanisms such as the eating of corned beef & cabbage on special occasions, would be downright bewildering in Ireland.
wtfwjd?
The story I've heard:
The original meal was bacon and cabbage.
But when they came to America, they found that bacon was a little pricey.
Their Jewish neighbors told them to try the corned beef.
...fond, fond memories of discovering the Janus catalog in college; I had no idea a movie could do that stuff...
The Surf Theatre in SF used to run a "Janus Cinema Classics" festival every summer... Bergman, Welles, Truffaut, Godard, Renoir, silents... those were the days!
There's a big Janus box set out on DVD now, but seeing it on TV just doesn't have the "oomph" as seeing it on the big screen in a darkened theatre.
Oh Boy! St Patrick's Day fireworks!
Am I the only person in this town who has a dog, fercrissake!
Gaelic! Almost no one speaks Gaelic anymore.
I'm but an hour's drive away from the Gaelic College.
It's bad for your health, it's an expensive habit and it stinks up everything around the smoker.
And damned hard to stop (says the smoker).
While lots and lots of people quit all of the time, I hope that those that don't smoke realize how hard it is to stop.
/not asking for pity
Well, looks like if the Wings are going to win in Canada tonight, they will do it short-handed. Game is less than four minutes old and they have had two penalities called already.
You mean you're not supposed to drink the whole bottle? oops
::matthew
how many bottles in a box?
Being drunk does not make one an alcoholic.
JR
indeed
::matthew
Except to some of these "recovering alcoholics". They have a problem so no one else should drink.
And everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.
but can you made rational decisions when drunk, if an emergency happens?
Moonbootica
Some people can.
I'm very funny drunk. At least so it seems to me.
I'm a morose drunk.
Just being drunk does not.
I suppose you must be arguing that as long as you're drunk you're technically not dead.
Come to Canada and you'll get to witness the spectacle of people smoking outside their places of work when it's less than -30 degrees outside.
It's sad and depressing that being "cool" always seems to mean that you have to do things that are ultimately self-destructive, smoking, drinking to excess, etc. etc. .
Richard
Oh, I see it in Center City Philadelphia, too.
Raining, snowing, freezing weather....and people standing outside smoking.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
I see it in front Sloan-Kettering Canacer Center in NYC eveytime I go for my check-up. I'm doing fine since I quit smoking and had some surgery and chemo, but I really wonder about those doctors, interns, nurses and cancer patients smoking in front of Sloan-Kettering.
I hope that those that don't smoke realize how hard it is to stop.
I do.
Zap, Ask doc about Wellbutrin.
The incidence of cancer and heart disease is dramatically lowered in France and in other places where some wine is consumed. Of course, they have 40+ nukes, which really kills that buzz. No one is saying abuse is good, but most of it is all about money money money when you get right into the basics of it all. There is a reason people try to numb out by abusing. Once again, the teevee is a really, really, really bad fucker. Much worse than just about anything else. Everything they do they do through the teevee. Fox is just a bit more blatant, which is why it is so excruciating for anyone with an IQ above 60 or so. The matrix was a very accurate allegory in many ways.
=*=
It's a matter of taste, obviously, but I find some of the non-alcoholic beer better than Bud et al.--Beck's NA and Clausthaler are pretty good...
everything in moderation 
/not asking for pity
Zap O'Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:21 pm | #
I know it's tough, worse than quitting drinking I've heard...
/not asking for pity
Zap O'Rowsdower
I was scared into quitting on my third try, because a co-worker got cancer. We were friendly, but not especially close. Other people closer to me had died or wrecked their health from it, I still don't know why it worked that time and not the others.
dave™©,
Seeing that film got me reading about Vittorio DeSica and I realized I had not seen "The Bicycle Thief" since high school. Read also about a film of his called "A Brief Vacation' that I'm going to need to rent.
That was weird.
Really, I'm not God.
I swear.
Being drunk does not make one an alcoholic.
JR
I keep telling myself that!
Celebrated St Patties day by going to MacDonald's.
(really I had a BK Jr Whopper)
.
Well, looks like if the Wings are going to win in Canada tonight, they will do it short-handed.
I hadn't realized they got back together. Was there a battle of the bands? And, I'm thinking Wings were not short-handed but rather short-legged with that Heather Mills McCartney demon.
.
dave™©
P.S. Had seen "Garden of the FInzi-Continis" about a year ago.
I hope that those that don't smoke realize how hard it is to stop.
It's really hard. You have my sympathy.
But please stick with it, because dying of lung cancer would suck ass.
Trust me on this.
Being drunk never hurt anyone.
Really? Not even if you're intoxicated on a regular basis, or behind the wheel of a car, or if you act like asshole in front of your family?
I see it in front Sloan-Kettering Canacer Center in NYC eveytime I go for my check-up. I'm doing fine since I quit smoking and had some surgery and chemo, but I really wonder about those doctors, interns, nurses and cancer patients smoking in front of Sloan-Kettering.
mike in pr
When I visited my friend in Calgary a few years back, they had a commercial with a fellow who had the voice box removed.
And he was smoking through the hole in his neck.
Graphic, to say the least.
I don't get non-alcoholic beer.
It's like decaf coffee, only most so.
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William H. Rehnquist | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:21 pm | #
I see what you mean, but it's not the same for me. Decaf coffee gives me a headache (it also has taken out something that has never adversely affected me). Non-alcoholic beer was especially swell when I was pregnant. I sampled all of them. There are a few that actually taste good. Sometimes, at lunch, I'd like to have a beer with what I'm eating. If it has alcohol, I'll need a nap. If it doesn't, I won't. But that's just me.
I'm so witty and charming and good looking when I'm drunk that other people get jealous and tell me I was a big loud-mouth asshole for weeks afterward.
I don't let it get to me.
4LG,
Check this. I just sent it to my friend with the ISC (the friend with whom you emailed).
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:22 pm | #
Recovering alcoholics are quite often just terrified they're going to fall off the wagon, so they can become difficult...
I suppose you must be arguing that as long as you're drunk you're technically not dead.
Halfdan
How does just getting drunk hurt anyone? Really, that's a non sequitur
/not asking for pity
Zap O'Rowsdower
Well, no, but it's okay to ask for support from your friends.
Being drunk never hurt anyone.
Depends on the kind of drunk.
I hate a MEAN drunk.
Then again, some people don't get mean when they drink.
Ask doc about Wellbutrin.
I'm gonna; once the job and insurance kicks in.
And, FWIW, I'm not the kind of smoker that thinks that I should be able to smoke anywhere and at anytime. I fucking hate going to restaurants and smelling smoke. They're not mutual (only after a meal, for me).
goodnight moonbats
.S. Had seen "Garden of the FInzi-Continis" about a year ago.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:24 pm | #
I saw that and The Bicycle Thief. Try and see Vittorio de Sica's Umberto D.. It's heartbreaking...
Speaking of Max Ophuls (the movie RIL saw today) I didn't know this movie was on dvd.
James Mason and Joan Bennett at their most luscious.
And it's a nifty noir as well.
the nicotine is eventually embedded in the bone marrow. actually, that's why the six-month point of quitting is so difficult- the body is leeching nicotine out of the bone and when that's gone- it really gets bad.
Read also about a film of his called "A Brief Vacation' that I'm going to need to rent.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:24 pm | #
One of my faves!
Justice Rehnquist,
I gather there is no hockey on the other side? Well, hell there goes my vision of heaven!
TerryC: that isn't uncommon; most folk who need total laryngectomies for cancer are heavy smokers, and many don't see any need to give it up after the fact...
the point was that being drunk doesn't hurt people...doing stupid shit while drunk hurts people
same goes for doing stupid shit while sober
OK, if it's St. Paddy's day, why am I drinking vodka?
Oh, right.
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Zap--I don't feel that way, either. And I'd never smoke anywhere in the vicinity of my grandbaby. Didn't smoke around my kid, either.
Otherwise, I realize I'm morally defective for having made a stupid decision at the age of 13.
same goes for doing stupid shit while sober
::matthew
Which is why I stay drunk.
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Res, holy crap.
From the article:
"ŇGatti, thatŐs not good!Ó said Ms. Pike, returning to the living room. ŇI see you still need some more work.Ó"
LOL.
How's your friend's cat doing? I gave her some suggestions. I hope they help him.
hope that those that don't smoke realize how hard it is to stop.
It's really hard. You have my sympathy
Over time I was able to cut back from around 30 to 6 a day. Then I got cancer and quit.
OK, if it's St. Paddy's day, why am I drinking Laphroiag?
Oh, right.
Recovering alcoholics are quite often just terrified they're going to fall off the wagon, so they can become difficult...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
My ex became sanctimonious.
Then he got into the bullshit that I "didn't understand" him because I "didn't have a problem."
So he meets this slag on-line in an AA chatroom and ditches a 23 year marriage and two kids.
Unfortunately for him, she ALSO had done heroin years ago, causing the HEP C that eventually killed her.
Sorry for sounding whiney, but between the cold and the depression about the job loss.........
Grand Moff--hell, I'm Irish, and I'm drinking vodka. Not fond of whiskey.
Her: I don't like you when you are drunk.
Him: I don't like you either, when I'm drunk.
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Good evening gentle people is there anything particularly irksome that steve simels has missed?
How does just getting drunk hurt anyone? Really, that's a non sequitur
A .40 BAC puts you in a coma. A .50 BAC kills you.
same goes for doing stupid shit while sober
How do you tell the difference with the petulant three year old in the White House?
I think I lucked out with this kitten.
Except for being a perpetual motion machine, she's very well behaved.
Grand Moff--hell, I'm Irish, and I'm drinking vodka. Not fond of whiskey.
Sallyh
I'm a mutt, but 1/6th irish...I figure anything goes
beamish for me tonight though
TerryC: that isn't uncommon; most folk who need total laryngectomies for cancer are heavy smokers, and many don't see any need to give it up after the fact...
ProfWombat
My next door neighbor has COPD.
So he takes the oxygen thingy off....and you guessed it....smokes!
Terry C--AA has done a lot of good for a lot of people, but I've seen it harm people as well. My daughter worked with it for two years to get sober, which she did, but she's decided she prefers a social and professional life outside of AA circles.
And Happy Saint Patricks Day to everyone.
If I go into a restaurant and smell smoke, I get food to go, and hope it arrives before the fire department.
Except for being a perpetual motion machine, she's very well behaved.
lol
You are well trained already, I see.
How does just getting drunk hurt anyone? Really, that's a non sequitur
A .40 BAC puts you in a coma. A .50 BAC kills you.
What makes you think that everyone who gets drunk drinks stupid amounts?
Shaw--Toby.
I gather there is no hockey on the other side? Well, hell there goes my vision of heaven!
There is. High sticking is allowed. Cross-checking is still illegal. And if you play against Jesus's team, he's allowed to do whatever he wants and never gets a penalty. It sucks.
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Well, Sallyh, I did my best to kill a fifth of Jameson's early this week. Guess I couldn't wait.
But now, I drink vodka while I wait for my Guinness to come up to potable temperature.
It's a method.
In the meantime, I just found out what Lá Fhéile Pádraig Sona Duit means.
Sallyh, did I ever tell you that I love you?
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4LG,
Since I forbad her from talking about his, um, digestive issues in my presence and since she has not mentioned him in weeks I am going to assume that the situation is status quo, i.e., FUBAR.
It's not that hard to stop. There was a cigarette put out a few years ago called Omni. Now this cigarette had highly reduced carcinogens, tasted great, and in fact helped smokers wean themselves quite well. It was also cheaper. It was taken off the market following a lawsuit wherein some group, most likely funded (surreptitiously, of course) by one of the Big Tobbaco Co's, claimed that it was "bad" and "misleading" because it claimed better health properties. War, nukes, genetically modified foods, petrochemical exhaust from cars, financial stress from corporate policys, lack of proper medical care, supression of existing medical knowledge, and a number of other purely greedy practices cause hundreds or thousands of times more death than drinking or smoking. Look at the causes of things, not just the surfaces. The teevee promulgates a process of social stigmatization for a reason. While you are looking at the shiny keys of your neighbors bad habits, they are pumping bullets into children half-way around the world.
Things are not what they appear, by a long shot.
=*=
Esposito saves!
And Jesus scores on the rebound.
What makes you think that everyone who gets drunk drinks stupid amounts?
fourlegsgood
[raises hand]
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What makes you think that everyone who gets drunk drinks stupid amounts?
Really, I've had one fucking drink today. I might have one more before the night's over.
lol
You are well trained already, I see.
Well, she's taught me to play fetch with her for hours on end.
But actually she'll play by herself quite happily. And she doesn't break things, or claw up the toilet paper or wreck the blinds.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
- Frank Sinatra
And Jesus scores on the rebound.
Shaw O'Kenawe
Hell, Jesus scores without even trying, the bastard.
Chicks dig the hair.
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Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
I am sorry you are hurting Terry... please try to take the weekend off from these pains or at the very least certainly those from the long- past and next week you/we can see about the future...
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:27 pm | #
Ophuls is very underrated as a filmmaker....Kubrick adored him...
The Earrings of Madame de.... is showing here in NYC. I may check it out. It stars Vittorio de Sica (the director of The Bicycle Thief), who's a very good actor as well...
Grand Moff--the feeling is, in the words of Teri Garr, mootyil.
Really, I've had one fucking drink today. I might have one more before the night's over.
I haven't had any drinks today.
Had a glass of wine last night. Wine just didn't seem to go with the delicious nachos I had for dinner.
Otherwise, I realize I'm morally defective for having made a stupid decision at the age of 13.
I feel that way, as well (though I started at 16).
And I didn't start because of stupid billboard or advertisement in a magazine (they stopped doing ads on TV before I was born, I think).
If anti-tobacco groups just stopped these stupid ads and quit pissing away all of the money that they won through settlements and focused on REAL prevention (commericals are the wrong method), we could stop looking at ourselves so helplessly and really help folks in the grips of addiction.
What makes you think that everyone who gets drunk drinks stupid amounts?
What makes you think I'm talking about everyone who gets drunk?
And Happy Saint Patricks Day to everyone.
Shared Humanity
Tuff titty if it did, ya fairy!
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Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:29 pm |
Don't worry about it. I've heard stories like that about recovering AA's.
Terry C--AA has done a lot of good for a lot of people, but I've seen it harm people as well. My daughter worked with it for two years to get sober, which she did, but she's decided she prefers a social and professional life outside of AA circles.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
My ex's problem was that he has an addictive personality.
He gave up drugs and alcohol for the Internet and AA.
It was as if he'd joined a cult.
4LG,
Since I forbad her from talking about his, um, digestive issues in my presence and since she has not mentioned him in weeks I am going to assume that the situation is status quo, i.e., FUBAR.
Well, I hope not. I told her to write me and let me know how he's doing.
But please stick with it, because dying of lung cancer would suck ass.
As do the other health problems associated with it. Before she died of lung cancer, my mother had a relatively poor quality of life for the ten years preceding it, largely as a result of circulation problems brought on by her smoking.
AA is at its best when supportive and pragmatic. The Big Book is full of dated stuff from when psychiatry was either Freud, barbiturates or warehouses full of custodial patients, and is hilarious on the barbarisms of atheism, in addition to the good stuff. And some in AA hold dogmatically to the idea that the AA way is the only way to stay sober, and if you can't do it their way, you're doomed to fail. False, and unkind.
Zap--I was being bitterly sarcastic.
I'm not sure how much education would have helped in my case. What would have helped would have been more respect for me as a human being by my parents, instead of just being thought of as the help.
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Sallyh, yer the wind between mah legs.
No, wait. I told it wrong.
[collapses in "Irish yoga" posture]
[drools a little]
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A .40 BAC puts you in a coma. A .50 BAC kills you.
I'm not gonna mention my BAC when I got pinched for my DUI.
But it was sickingly high.
I am sorry you are hurting Terry... please try to take the weekend off from these pains or at the very least certainly those from the long- past and next week you/we can see about the future...
focus
Like I said, sorry for whining.
He gave up drugs and alcohol for the Internet and AA.
It was as if he'd joined a cult.
My uncle gave us alchohol and took up chocolate and Cragmont soda.
He did go to AA though, all the rest of his life, but mostly just to sponsor other people.
He was really quiet about it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 03.17.07 - 9:30 pm | #
A friend of mine did it when he was young, went to meetings for years, but doesn't go anymore. He's still sober.
He drank because he was trying to hide his love of his fellow men (i.e., he was majorly gay). He's happier now, except he broke up with his boyfriend recently.
Terry and Prof--I think Mlle took the best of what it could offer. But she thinks of it as a therapeutic situation; she doesn't want to hang out with these people socially. She has other friends that aren't in the program. Some drink, some don't, they all know her status, and it hasn't been a problem.
beamish for me tonight though
::matthew
Fuck you. Can't get Beamish in central Texas.
Best Irish dry stout in the fucking universe, y'all.
Shit.
.
I was being bitterly sarcastic.
I know...I know.
But it was a springboard...
Shared Humanity, I never realized how Irish your name was.
If anti-tobacco groups just stopped these stupid ads and quit pissing away all of the money that they won through settlements and focused on REAL prevention (commericals are the wrong method), we could stop looking at ourselves so helplessly and really help folks in the grips of addiction.
But then the Madison Avenue parasites would not be sustained.
We can't have that.
they are pumping bullets into children half-way around the world.
=*=
IMPEACH CHENEY BUSH NOW
With all due respect, we are all well aware of that fact.
NYTimes:
Alan Rainey, an adjunct professor and small publisher from West Lafayette, Ind., said he had not attended a protest since 1973, not long after he had returned from military duty in Vietnam. On Saturday, he carried a sign with green clover and a St. Patrick’s Day theme. “Help drive the snakes out of the White House,” it said, depicting snakes with the faces of Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.
Like I said, sorry for whining.
Terry
pish tosh... happy St. Paddy's day my friend
What would have helped would have been more respect for me as a human being by my parents, instead of just being thought of as the help.
Oh, your parents too?
My mother couldn't figure out why I wanted to get away so badly.
I felt like an indentured servant for my whole childhood. It sucked.
Alcohol is a poison, which some systems can tolerate, and others can't. My genetic disposition is intolerance. The more I drink, the more I drink; that's why I quit, it poisoned my self-control center. I really drank good stuff, too; single malts, good wines. I realized I was in deep shit when I found myself stopping at a convenience store for cheap beer on my way to a gig a long drive away. Waking up in jail, again, cured me.
ProfWombat, Janeane, Terry--I think Mlle developed her skepticism early on when one group told her that she had to stop taking lithium and anti convulsants in order to 'really be sober.' Fortunately, she knew better in that regard.
But it was sickingly high.
Zap O'Rowsdower
2.3
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Except to some of these "recovering alcoholics". They have a problem so no one else should drink.
And everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.
Then they're not recovering, they're blaming.
And some in AA hold dogmatically to the idea that the AA way is the only way to stay sober, and if you can't do it their way, you're doomed to fail. False, and unkind.
ProfWombat
The fucking constant parroting of slogans was what drove ME up the wall.
What makes you think that everyone who gets drunk drinks stupid amounts?
Personally, I'd say that anyone who is getting drunk on a regular basis is drinking stupid amounts.
Do not alopolgize, you were not whining. You were talking to us. That's what friends are for.
=*=
A moment for Steve Gilliard. Hope he's still with us.
His take on St. Paddy's day in NYC was an eye-opener for me three years ago on black white politics. You know, one of those things you don't think about until someone not like you gives his version.
Fuck. Can't lose Gilliard. One of the good ones.
A toast to Steve fucking Gilliard. May the hair on his toes never fall off.
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2.3
.26
Ahhh, .23
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Ahhh, .23
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Good on Mlle. My guess is she'll do better because she's doing it that way. Not everybody can, though. I've run across folks who need to go to meetings daily, or even more than once daily. Couldn't do that myself...
Grand Moff--are we going Irish dancing tonight?
No?
What exactly did you have in mind?
...my GOD! You mean all those Orygun Duck home football games at Autzen Stadium were actually renditions of St. Patrick's Day??!!?
In short, yes.
I remember (vaguely) one Duck homegame where the Ducks won, but I couldn't possibly tell you the score, because the scoreboard kept moving on me.
seems like a decent song for tonight
Help drive the snakes out of the White House,” it said, depicting snakes with the faces of [Monkey Boy] and {Five Deferment]Dick.
Shaw O'Kenawe
Snakes are beautiful and serve a purpose in nature.
Bush and Cheney...........peh!
Waking up in jail, again, cured me.
ronjazz
Shit, ronjazz, I feel ya.
I only woke up in jail once, after trying to drink a woman off my mind.
Dumb idea.
I've spent eight years not being in jail, though drunk often, and I hope to keep it that way.
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ProfWombat, Janeane, Terry--I think Mlle developed her skepticism early on when one group told her that she had to stop taking lithium and anti convulsants in order to 'really be sober.'
Well, that's pretty stupid. She'd be sober, but she'd be crazy.
And then she wouldn't be sober for long.
Do not alopolgize, you were not whining. You were talking to us. That's what friends are for.
=*=
IMPEACH CHENEY BUSH NOW
And I thank you all!
terryC: yup. Doesn't sound like they're thinking, or working things out, when they're just regurgitating AA talking points, does it? More like trading in one addiction for another...
How is Steve Gilliard?
I'm assuming he made it through surgery?
4Legs--or dead.
What exactly did you have in mind?
Sallyh
Whatever won't lead my wife to cut off certain bits and leave them in a Win Dixie dumpster.
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Shared Humanity, I never realized how Irish your name was.
mike in pr | 03.17.07 - 9:37 pm | #
I'm 6'3", half Irish, and in my youth, was known to down a couple of cases. I grew up and am now the picture of moderation.
And some in AA hold dogmatically to the idea that the AA way is the only way to stay sober, and if you can't do it their way, you're doomed to fail. False, and unkind.
After I got my DUI, I had to go to some AA meetings (Rule 25...court ordered).
The worst thing about it? "Believe in a higher power; even if it's a door knob".
No. Not for me. Works for some.
Grand Moff--send her over to Monsieur
Massive black holes are part of star formation.
Wow.
That's really interesting.
Gonzales Survival Prospects Called 'Slim to None'
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Politi...=2960297&
page=1
March 17, 2007 — Some political odds makers are betting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will not make it through the week with the same job title.
"The chances of the attorney general surviving this, I think, are slim to none — and slim just left the building," said Norman Ornstein, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute.
Gonzales faces what could be the most challenging week of his career. On Monday, the Department of Justice is expected to release some 200 pages of potentially damaging e-mails to address accusations he fired eight U.S. attorneys for political reasons on behalf of a White House that felt they were not — in the words of Gonzales' former chief of staff, Kyle Sampson — "loyal Bushies."
Sampson lost his job earlier this month. Now it is Gonzales' own job that's on the line.
On Thursday, he is scheduled to testify before a skeptical House Appropriations Subcommittee on Justice, as the Senate Judiciary Committee meets to decide whether to subpoena several White House officials involved in the firings, including political advisor Karl Rove and former White House Counsel Harriet Miers.
A Newsweek poll released today found that just one in three Americans believes he should stay on the job. Most — 58 percent — believe the firings were politically motivated.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:38 pm | #
I'm a middle child. Parents majorly suck...
GMT, it also gets expensive crashing BMWs in a drunken fog.
Oh, no question there Ron. A chaque un a son gouts, and all things in moderation, including, for some, moderation. I am merely advocating a non-dogmatic approach to everything, especially when everything you get from almost every source is basically a lie to begin with. Find out for yourself is all I'm saying, and realize thet there is always a reason why things are the way they are. There are more things in heaven and on earth than are dream'd of in our philosophy.
=*=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h?
v=R7llu2aQRSQ
4Legs--or dead.
Exactly.
It's a miracle my brother is still alive. He just got out of a rehab, again.
This one was for alcoholics with psychiatric problems (bi-polars etc.)
A .40 BAC puts you in a coma. A .50 BAC kills you.
Halfdan
That's not drunk, and most people never get near that point.
I love my daughter's mother in law; she really is a great lady. But every time one of the kids tries to talk to her about an issue that they might need guidance on, she goes all AA on them with the slogans. Also, you are not permitted to express negativity around her.
My SIL says at least he's comfortable going negative around Monsieur and me.
well, the document dump is on Monday. Much better than a friday. Trolls will be screaming from the rooftops.
The thing is, the petulant three year old HATES HATES HATES being told to do anything.
Like fire his buddy Abu Gonzales.
Even if every last Republican in Congress tells him he must.
He will not do it.
The motherfucker needs to be impeached, then taken out behind the White House and strung up.
It's the only way to deal with him.
Oh, and Ireland beat Pakistan by three wickets in the Cricket World Cup!
Okay I think all youngsters eagerly awaiting their 21st birthdays should spend a few Saturday nights at Eschaton.
Me, I'm going to say goodnight and grab some tawny port, my new Richard Powers novel, and a fine woman
Good night!
terryC: yup. Doesn't sound like they're thinking, or working things out, when they're just regurgitating AA talking points, does it? More like trading in one addiction for another...
ProfWombat
Exactly! Like I said, he has an addictive personality!
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The worst thing about it? "Believe in a higher power; even if it's a door knob".
No. Not for me. Works for some.
Zap O'Rowsdower
"Keep it simple, stupid" is one that gets me. You're trying to help folks by insulting them?
"The chances of the attorney general surviving this, I think, are slim to none — and slim just left the building," said Norman Ornstein, a political analyst at the American Enterprise Institute.
Ha!!
Abu should never have been AG to start with. He's a mediocre mind at best.
Like most of the people surrounding the chimperor.
Personally, I'd say that anyone who is getting drunk on a regular basis is drinking stupid amounts.
Richard
Once a year is "regularly".
ronjazz--unfortunately, they keep borrowing our roof.
terryC: thanks for Lady Day. Nobody's ever done it better...
Like most of the people surrounding the chimperor.
fourlegsgood
how good can you say "yes sir"?
ok, you got the job
Otherwise, I realize I'm morally defective for having made a stupid decision at the age of 13.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I disagree with you there Sallyh.
You are not morally defective, in fact you are a very nice person.
Stupid? No, mislead while young.
The same as a number of us.
Update on Gilly--Just Talked to his Mom
http://www.thenewsblog.net/2007/...to-his-
mom.html
Jen here--just got off the phone with Gilly's Mom. Here's the latest:
Gilly is now totally stitched up, and they are taking him out of sedation GRADUALLY. He is semi-alert and can respond to basic requests (ie move your hand, gimmie five, etc). He has no problem using the left side of his body (can move his legs, toes, fingers, etc) but his right side is still motionless. He doesn't even respond to stimulus on the right side--ie if you squeeze his hand or foot hard, or stick him, no response. He is propped up in front of the TV and responds to what he sees--his mind is definitley waking up.
4Legs--Gonzales reminds me of a troll, you know, the kind that lives under bridges and eats goats.
I love my daughter's mother in law; she really is a great lady. But every time one of the kids tries to talk to her about an issue that they might need guidance on, she goes all AA on them with the slogans. Also, you are not permitted to express negativity around her.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
My ex, too. You weren't supposed to express any worries....just walk around with a smile on your face all the time.
I mean, WTF?
Gonzales Survival Prospects Called 'Slim to None'
I say, we waterboard him. It's not like it's torture or anything.
terryC: yup. Doesn't sound like they're thinking, or working things out, when they're just regurgitating AA talking points, does it? More like trading in one addiction for another...
ProfWombat
Exactly! Like I said, he has an addictive personality!
But people do have those personalities. It's not all bad, because something related makes one persevere and work hard on a project, too. So sometimes it might be a good idea to find a less dangerous addiction.
how good can you say "yes sir"?
ok, you got the job
More like, how well can you worship little georgie and make him feel important and smart?
Abu should never have been AG to start with. He's a mediocre mind at best.
Junior's throwing a Major League Tantrum over this, from what I hear.
I can't believe Tony Snow and a few of the others who are evil (or at least amoral) and thoroughly dishonest but not stoopit don't get how Stalinist that "serves at the pleasure of the president" mantra is.
the song was sinatra: come fly with me in case you're interested
I made it a point to expose my daughter (less that two years old) to Irish culture on the first St. Paddy's day she's likely to remember at all. Which is my way of saying that I sacrificed at least eighteen hours of drinking I would ordinarily do on such an occasion. Didn't start drinking until after dark, she'd long gone to sleep after seeing pipers and a harper and drummers and lots of trinkets and things.
Now, the drinking begins.
I have some serious catching up to do, since a lawyer friend of mine in Dallas called me while I was still stone cold sober to tell me
guy: I'm drunk and I love you
me: well, we love ya all the more for it
guy: no, the point is, that I'm drunk and I love you
[click]
See? Dude doesn't have kids any more. I, however, need to teach my Mexican/Irish girl what's stirring in her blood. So: less of the asshole in me these days.
I'll just take it out on you guys, deal? As the old Irish song goes:
Are ya sober?
Are ya sober?
Yer actin' awful queer...
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The fucking constant parroting of slogans was what drove ME up the wall.
I hear you.
I had major problems and did the rehab, AA, NA thing because that's what the insurance company wanted.
After a while I was going to go back out because their preachifying made me crazy.
I had to get away from them and figure out why I wanted to stay sober.
I just got sick and tired of being sick and tired.
The Gasden Flag, our first American flag, flown by our Marines, featured a tiber rattler and the motto "Don't Tread On Me" Snakes are an integral part of nature and they defend their own. Cheney, Bush, and the cabal they represent are lower by far than the noble Timber Rattlers dung.
=*=
JohnJS--the problem was, it was a conscious decision on my part to start. I needed some form of stress relief and I needed to be alert enough to study late at night (which was when I had time to do it).
BTW, my granddaughter LOVES numbers and counting
terryC: thanks for Lady Day. Nobody's ever done it better...
ProfWombat
I was looking for Sinatra's version, but I found that and thought:
"Even better!"
I like to drink and do so everynight. I don't drive afterwards (one of the advantages of being old is that you can't see at night anyway so there's no temptation). I just get all mellow and either hang out on blogs or play records or both...or whatnot. Whatnot sometimes takes over.
4Legs--Gonzales reminds me of a troll, you know, the kind that lives under bridges and eats goats.
I thought they ate children and were afraid of billy goats?
I get so confused.
Oh, and Ireland beat Pakistan by three wickets in the Cricket World Cup!
Jake Parrott
Motherfuck him and John Wayne
I see Cindy Sheehan took some time off from downloading internet porn to attend the "Anti-war" rally. You can read about her filthy mouth here
Bonus quote from the Gateway Pundit comments
"Her paymaster, Soros, owns a chunck of Halliburton.
Way cool."
Indeed
I hope Abu stays on for a while. That would make everybody pissed off at him and his boss. Good.
same goes for doing stupid shit while sober
::matthew
Almost all of my scars were acquired while stone cold sober.
I can't believe Tony Snow and a few of the others who are evil (or at least amoral) and thoroughly dishonest but not stoopit don't get how Stalinist that "serves at the pleasure of the president" mantra is.
Jim | 03.17.07 - 9:49 pm
Most of the Watergate burglars were also 'serving at the pleasure of the President'.
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"More like trading in one addiction for another...
ProfWombat"
yeah, but the aa addiction won't kill ya or end ya up in jail or the nuthouse.
Terry--it's ridiculous. Life sucks sometimes.
The kids have been having some problems; they talked to both sets of parents for advice. His family went all AA on them, told them all they needed were more meetings.
We told them to find a counselor they were comfortable with and take a weekend off for themselves.
They liked our advice better, and they're currently relaxing in Palm Springs after meeting with their therapist yesterday.
Trying to Preview a valid post and all I get is:
SCROLL TROLL COMMENT SCRUBBED
Nice-
Junior's throwing a Major League Tantrum over this, from what I hear.
Well, that's good to hear.
Anything that upsets him makes me happy.
My ex, too. You weren't supposed to express any worries....just walk around with a smile on your face all the time.
I mean, WTF?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:48 pm | #
Shiny Happy People, eh?
Echidne: absolutely, it's better to be addicted to AA than to drink your fifth a day and drive drunk and like that. But neither alternative offers me, myself, a way I can live, so i look elsewhere...
Holy shit, ronjazz, you have my eternal sympathies.
I have had angels looking after me that I don't deserve (especially seeing as how I'm an agnostic).
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Jen just posted an update of Steve's condition on the News Blog. Still with us, and recovering slowly.
War 4 Oil | 03.17.07 - 9:50 pm
I really think that you should run for office. You have the tact of a wet rag.
That's not drunk, and most people never get near that point.
Your argument appears to be: "drinking reasonable amounts of alcohol won't hurt you." Impossible to argue with that, I suppose...
Oooh. My kitten is so fluffy.
Junior's throwing a Major League Tantrum over this, from what I hear.
Jim | 03.17.07 - 9:49 pm |
That's all Bush ever does when things don't go his way...
About four threads too late. Hillary Clinton really is a idiot. What she is suggesting is that we bail out the mortgage lenders as well as the idiots who bought theire 'product'. Hello - biggest financial decision of most peoples lives, and they can't bother to read the fine print? Fuck em. The subprime lenders can't refinance the mortgage because, well, they themselves have had their credit lines cut by the dozens. Welcome to the world of fractional reserve banking. Let the dead bury the dead.
They liked our advice better, and they're currently relaxing in Palm Springs after meeting with their therapist yesterday.
I hope they work things through.
I've read many recovering alcoholics like things in black and white, no nuances. And they have some short term memory problems.
ProfWombat, I wasn't defending the AA. I know nothing about them. But I have a tendency to get very, very focused on something and very early on I decided that I needed to find some less harmful ways of handling that part of my personality. So I had a few years of reading a detective novel a day and then I went to martial arts classes five days a week for ten years and so on.
Oooh. My kitten is so fluffy.
fourlegsgood
she does appears to be of coat quality!
kidding, of course.
Almost all of my scars were acquired while stone cold sober.
My brother almost died in an accident while drunk. He was driving a gasoline tanker truck when it ran off the road.
I have absolutely no respect for anyone who thinks drunk=cool.
terryC: Charles Brown did that one, and just about everything else, wonderfully, if you've never heard him...
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 9:54 pm |
Cats rule...my cat is gray. 18 years old. It's really something to see. I've never had a cat of mine go gray.
Watching "A Face in the Crowd" on TCM. Talk about character arc.
Hello - biggest financial decision of most peoples lives, and they can't bother to read the fine print? Fuck em.
Oh, that's real nice.
I was in the mortgage business for years, and some of the terms confuse me.
I've read many recovering alcoholics like things in black and white, no nuances. And they have some short term memory problems.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 03.17.07 - 9:55 pm | #
Sounds like Dubya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h?
v=rODeuywknwE
Tea Leoni has a place reserved in the Pope's coffee table book, "A Hundred Women I'd Like to Pork."
Move over Duchovny, Papa's got a chateau in Avignon he hasn't used in some time.
Here's a Chicago Tribune account of how Abu G got to be Attorney General of the United States. If you're in a hurry, it boils down to two words: Pure cronyism.
Gonzales spent much of the 1980s and early 1990s in a "dirt and deals" real estate practice at Vinson & Elkins, while building up his résumé with service for civic groups like Catholic Charities, Leadership Houston and United Way.
Months after making partner at the law firm in 1991, Gonzales married his wife, Rebecca Turner Gonzales. Through service in the Texas State Bar Association, Gonzales met Harriet Miers of Dallas, who until January was White House counsel.
In the 1990s, Miers was Bush's personal lawyer and helped bring Gonzales into the inner circle of the soon-to-be candidate for governor of Texas.
In the ensuing years, Gonzales has been a Bush retainer exclusively, serving as general counsel, Texas secretary of state, Texas Supreme Court justice and White House counsel before taking the helm of the Justice Department in February 2005.
Echidne: many paths; me, I find yours pretty congenial...
I can't believe Tony Snow and a few of the others who are evil (or at least amoral) and thoroughly dishonest but not stoopit don't get how Stalinist that "serves at the pleasure of the president" mantra is.
They were just reaching for the nearest "West Wing" quote.
Does anyone want me to post some new Frank Rich? (The Times was nice enough to give me free access, the least I can do is share.)
she does appears to be of coat quality!
kidding, of course.
Hee.
Her undercoat is growing in. It's quite plushy and soft.
"drinking reasonable amounts of alcohol won't hurt you." Impossible to argue with that, I suppose...
Halfdan
Drinking unreasonable amounts won't hurt you, within physical tolerance, either.
G'night, folks. Don't forget to tip your bartenders!
[puts on Star Trek TNG uniform]
I'll take you home again, Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere / Across the ocean wild and wide / To where your heart has ever been / Since you were first my bonnie bride. / The roses all have left your cheek. / I've watched them fade away and die / Your voice is sad when e'er you speak / And tears bedim your loving eyes. / Oh! I will take you back, Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere / To where your heart will feel no pain / And when the fields are fresh and green / I'II take you to your home again! / I know you love me, Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere, dear / Your heart was ever fond and true. / I always feel when you are near / That life holds nothing, dear, but you. / The smiles that once you gave to me / I scarcely ever see them now / Though many, many times I see / A dark'ning shadow on your brow. / To that dear home beyond the sea / My Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere shall again return. / And when thy old friends welcome thee / Thy loving heart will cease to yearn. / Where laughs the little silver stream / Beside your mother's humble cot / And brightest rays of sunshine gleam / There all your grief will be forgot.
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"Hello - biggest financial decision of most peoples lives, and they can't bother to read the fine print? Fuck em."
Such empathy.
March 18, 2007
Op-Ed Columnist
The Ides of March 2003
By FRANK RICH
TOMORROW night is the fourth anniversary of President Bush’s prime-time address declaring the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. In the broad sweep of history, four years is a nanosecond, but in America, where memories are congenitally short, it’s an eternity. That’s why a revisionist history of the White House’s rush to war, much of it written by its initial cheerleaders, has already taken hold. In this exonerating fictionalization of the story, nearly every politician and pundit in Washington was duped by the same “bad intelligence” before the war, and few imagined that the administration would so botch the invasion’s aftermath or that the occupation would go on so long. “If only I had known then what I know now ...” has been the persistent refrain of the war supporters who subsequently disowned the fiasco. But the embarrassing reality is that much of the damning truth about the administration’s case for war and its hubristic expectations for a cakewalk were publicly available before the war, hiding in plain sight, to be seen by anyone who wanted to look.
By the time the ides of March arrived in March 2003, these warning signs were visible on a nearly daily basis. So were the signs that Americans were completely ill prepared for the costs ahead. Iraq was largely anticipated as a distant, mildly disruptive geopolitical video game that would be over in a flash.
Now many of the same leaders who sold the war argue that escalation should be given a chance. This time they’re peddling the new doomsday scenario that any withdrawal timetable will lead to the next 9/11. The question we must ask is: Has history taught us anything in four years?
Here is a chronology of some of the high and low points in the days leading up to the national train wreck whose anniversary we mourn this week [with occasional “where are they now” updates].
I was in the mortgage business for years, and some of the terms confuse me.
fourlegsgood
yup, and now with all the crazy mortgage products out there, I'm sure that most people are a bit sketchy on the details
About four threads too late. Hillary Clinton really is a idiot. What she is suggesting is that we bail out the mortgage lenders as well as the idiots who bought theire 'product'. Hello - biggest financial decision of most peoples lives, and they can't bother to read the fine print? Fuck em. The subprime lenders can't refinance the mortgage because, well, they themselves have had their credit lines cut by the dozens. Welcome to the world of fractional reserve banking. Let the dead bury the dead.
Pape-Clement
What needs to happen is reregulation of all financial services, to the degree that a GS4 can shut down the largest financial institution with the wink of an eye.
These assholes are out of control, they cannot police themselves or be expected to do the right thing, they will become crooked, devious, dishonest, and predatory at the drop of a fucking hat.
They have once again proved that they cannot play nicely without having teacher watch them like a hawk. They had their chance to behave like sane, ethical, adults, and they blew it.
Regulate them to the point that they can't go to the bathroom without a federal regulator giving them permission.
I've read many recovering alcoholics like things in black and white, no nuances. And they have some short term memory problems.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
"Dry drunk".
Most alcoholics havbe the same problems, it's just that the problems don't go away when they get sober.
Sounds like Dubya.
Shared Humanity | 03.17.07 - 9:56 pm | #
Absolutely. And the MSM made light of this along with idiot donkey-boy's other drug problems.
summing up my thoughts on the subject rather nicely;
IMPEACH CHENEY BUSH NOW | 03.17.07 - 9:15 pm | #
My Lady Nicotine, by J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan) is a classic on the subject of tobacco. Fran Liebowitz wrote something hysterical, as most everything she ever wrote is, called "I Am A Cigarette".
In any case, tobacco and alcohol are not fundamentally the problem; vested interest, chemical pollutants, media lies, environmental toxins, government tyranny, agribusiness, supression of medical knowledge and greed are the problem.
=*=
indeed; while i've been caught smoking around sick people to my shame and chagrin, socially one should address these issues listed above, not try to dictate individual morality. Smoke is an accoutrement of healthy living, in the right times and with proper ventilation and care.
I've read many recovering alcoholics like things in black and white, no nuances. And they have some short term memory problems.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 03.17.07 - 9:55 pm | #
Sounds like Dubya.
Shared Humanity
You beat me to the post!
have absolutely no respect for anyone who thinks drunk=cool.
Very few (sane) people do. I don't think anyone here is arguing with that.
But, people do get drunk for whatever reason. There shouldn't be any reason why people can't or shouldn't do that.
March 5, 2003
“I took the Grey Poupon out of my cupboard.”
— Representative Duke Cunningham, Republican of California, on the floor of the House denouncing French opposition to the Iraq war.
[In November 2005, he resigned from Congress and pleaded guilty to accepting bribes from defense contractors. In January 2007, the United States attorney who prosecuted him — Carol Lam, a Bush appointee — was forced to step down for “performance-related” issues by Alberto Gonzales’s Justice Department.]
March 6, 2003
President Bush holds his last prewar news conference. The New York Observer writes that he interchanged Iraq with the attacks of 9/11 eight times, “and eight times he was unchallenged.” The ABC News White House correspondent, Terry Moran, says the Washington press corps was left “looking like zombies.”
March 7, 2003
Appearing before the United Nations Security Council on the same day that the United States and three allies (Britain, Spain and Bulgaria) put forth their resolution demanding that Iraq disarm by March 17, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, reports there is “no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq.”. He adds that documents “which formed the basis for the report of recent uranium transaction between Iraq and Niger are in fact not authentic.” None of the three broadcast networks’ evening newscasts mention his findings.
[In 2005 ElBaradei was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.]
March 10, 2003
Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks tells an audience in England, “We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the president of the United States is from Texas.” Boycotts, death threats and anti-Dixie Chicks demonstrations follow.
[In 2007, the Dixie Chicks won five Grammy Awards, including best song for “Not Ready to Make Nice.”]
March 12, 2003
A senior military planner tells The Daily News “an attack on Iraq could last as few as seven days.”
“Isn’t it more likely that antipathy toward the United States in the Islamic world might diminish amid the demonstrations of jubilant Iraqis celebrating the end of a regime that has few equals in its ruthlessness?”
— John McCain, writing for the Op-Ed page of The New York Times.
“The Pentagon still has not given a name to the Iraqi war. Somehow ‘Operation Re-elect Bush’ doesn’t seem to be popular.”
— Jay Leno, “The Tonight Show.”
I've read many recovering alcoholics like things in black and white, no nuances. And they have some short term memory problems.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 03.17.07 - 9:55 pm | #
Sounds like Dubya.
Shared Humanity |
Nope, Dubya is just plain delusional. Read where he went of Jerusalem, came out with a god complex.
And the MSM made light of this along with idiot donkey-boy's other drug problems.
Janeane
Made light of it hell, they carved it in marble, called it "moral clarity" and convinced themselves (and tried to convince the world) that it didn't matter what he did or what the consequences were because George W Bush was acting from conviction.
And the MSM made light of this along with idiot donkey-boy's other drug problems.
Janeane
Made light of it hell, they carved it in marble, called it "moral clarity" and convinced themselves (and tried to convince the world) that it didn't matter what he did or what the consequences were because George W Bush was acting from conviction.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 03.17.07 - 9:58 pm | #
Regulation is a good thing. Fuck the GOP and the DLC.
Drinking unreasonable amounts won't hurt you, within physical tolerance, either.
Okay--go drink 20 shots of whisky in the next hour and let me know how it goes...
March 14, 2003
Senator John D. Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia, asks the F.B.I. to investigate the forged documents cited a week earlier by ElBaradei and alleging an Iraq-Niger uranium transaction: “There is a possibility that the fabrication of these documents may be part of a larger deception campaign aimed at manipulating public opinion and foreign policy regarding Iraq.”
March 16, 2003
On “Meet the Press,” Dick Cheney says that American troops will be “greeted as liberators,” that Saddam “has a longstanding relationship with various terrorist groups, including the Al Qaeda organization,” and that it is an “overstatement” to suggest that several hundred thousand troops will be needed in Iraq after it is liberated. Asked by Tim Russert about ElBaradei’s statement that Iraq does not have a nuclear program, the vice president says, “I think Mr. ElBaradei frankly is wrong.”
“There will be new recruits, new recruits probably because of the war that’s about to happen. So we haven’t seen the last of Al Qaeda.”
— Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism czar, on ABC’s “This Week.”
[From the recently declassified “key judgments” of the National Intelligence Estimate of April 2006: “The Iraq conflict has become the cause célčbre for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of U.S. involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement.”]
“Despite the Bush administration’s claims about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, U.S. intelligence agencies have been unable to give Congress or the Pentagon specific information about the amounts of banned weapons or where they are hidden, according to administration officials and members of Congress. Senior intelligence analysts say they feel caught between the demands from White House, Pentagon and other government policy makers for intelligence that would make the administration’s case ‘and what they say is a lack of hard facts,’ one official said.”
— “U.S. Lacks Specifics on Banned Arms,” by Walter Pincus (with additional reporting by Bob Woodward), The Washington Post, Page A17.
You know, I love my Vodka and my Cigs, and I know both have and can cause me problems, but I am thankful.
I have done every drug from pot (Mucho, for years) to Crack (Mucho Coke, too), Meth, (love that shit!) except heroin.
I thank the gods my booze and cigs are now enuff now.
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Apprentice, I agree with ye. I just don't see the majority of sub-prime borrowers as being victims. They should never have gotten through the door in the first place. There is no shame living in an apartment, repairing your credit, saving something toward a down payment on a fixed rate 30 yr mortgage. It used to be the American way. People, borrowers and lenders, took shortcuts and now everybody has to pay.
Most alcoholics have the same problems, it's just that the problems don't go away when they get sober.
JR, kerosene and a match. | 03.17.07 - 9:58 pm |
A lot of times the alcoholics think that they will...
I hate to do this, but I have to quote Homer...
"Alcoholic is the cause and solution to all of life's problems"...
Come to think of it, this place is my addiction now...
March 17, 2003
Representative Henry Waxman, Democrat of California, who voted for the Iraq war resolution, writes the president to ask why the administration has repeatedly used W.M.D. evidence that has turned out to be “a hoax” — “correspondence that indicates that Iraq sought to obtain nuclear weapons from an African country, Niger.”
[Still waiting for “an adequate explanation” of the bogus Niger claim four years later, Waxman, now chairman of the chief oversight committee in the House, wrote Condoleezza Rice on March 12, 2007, seeking a response “to multiple letters I sent you about this matter.”]
In a prime-time address, President Bush tells Saddam to leave Iraq within 48 hours: “Every measure has been made to avoid war, and every measure will be taken to win it.” After the speech, NBC rushes through its analysis to join a hit show in progress, “Fear Factor,” where men and women walk with bare feet over broken glass to win $50,000.
March 18, 2003
Barbara Bush tells Diane Sawyer on ABC’s “Good Morning America” that she will not watch televised coverage of the war: “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it’s going to happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”
[Visiting the homeless victims of another cataclysm, Hurricane Katrina, at the Houston Astrodome in 2005, Mrs. Bush said, “And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this — this is working very well for them.”]
In one of its editorials strongly endorsing the war, The Wall Street Journal writes, “There is plenty of evidence that Iraq has harbored Al Qaeda members.”
[In a Feb. 12, 2007, editorial defending the White House’s use of prewar intelligence, The Journal wrote, “Any links between Al Qaeda and Iraq is a separate issue that was barely mentioned in the run-up to war.”]
In an article headlined “Post-war ‘Occupation’ of Iraq Could Result in Chaos,” Mark McDonald of Knight Ridder Newspapers quotes a “senior leader of one of Iraq’s closest Arab neighbors,” who says, “We’re worried that the outcome will be civil war.”
A questioner at a White House news briefing asserts that “every other war has been accompanied by fiscal austerity of some sort, often including tax increases” and asks, “What’s different about this war?” Ari Fleischer responds, “The most important thing, war or no war, is for the economy to grow,” adding that in the president’s judgment, “the best way to help the economy to grow is to stimulate the economy by providing tax relief.”
After consulting with the homeland security secretary, Tom Ridge, the N.C.A.A. announces that the men’s basketball tournament will tip off this week as scheduled. The N.C.A.A. president, Myles Brand, says, “We were not going to let a tyrant determine how we were going to lead our lives.”
Who turned this place into a 24/7 Enya fest? It's like Kenny G in Gaelic here.
I would much prefer hearing her sister. Moya or Maire.
Hello boys and girls. It's time for the Grand-Prix, the 1st of the year, in Australia
ProfWombat | 03.17.07 - 9:35 pm
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Sober since 1990 or 1991, I really don't recall-
I had to drop out of the twelve step thing cause one of the risers was "give it over to god" and that is what had me slinging drinks like humans breathe aire, in the first place-
So I figured it out all on my own, after a little helps cleaning my closet during intense, eighteen month or so "counseling" and a willing stint in jail, and a hefty check written to pay off back taxes-
Oh yeah, ah how'd I do all that and stay sober?
I did it for the same reasons I fight arBusto, Inc daily these days; honesty-
Fighting arBusto, Inc has had it's challenges as well, see, I am not supposed to muddle in the things I cannot change-
So when Paul Hodes RICO-ripped into arBusto, Inc at the Plame hearings, I heard a little bit of honesty in government that day, and having helped the Hodes campaign financially, I did change something that at first seemed like something I shouldn't focus on, cause I couldn't change it, no matter how earnest the cause, which I now know was bullshit thinking-
Anyway, it is not easy, but to get sober from alcohol I:
1./ Woke/Wake up
2./ Look in mirror
3./ Say; Don't lie today (Be Honest)
That is it-
:♥
As war protesters marched toward Arlington Memorial Bridge en route to the Pentagon yesterday, they were flanked by long lines of military veterans and others who stood in solidarity with US troops and the Bush administration's cause ...
Fuck you, Washington Post.
Joe Wilson: My Wife, the CIA agent
I'm with you, Agave.
good evening plum
good evening plum
March 19, 2003
“I’d guess that if it goes beyond three weeks, Bush will be in real trouble.”
— Andrew Bacevich, a retired Army colonel teaching at Boston University, quoted in The Washington Post.
[The March 2007 installment of the Congressionally mandated Pentagon assessment “Measuring Stability and Security in Iraq” reported that from Jan. 1 to Feb. 9, 2007, there were more than 1,000 weekly attacks, up from about 400 in spring 2004.]
Robert McIlvaine, whose 26-year-old son was killed at the World Trade Center 18 months earlier, is arrested at a peace demonstration at the Capitol in Washington. He tells The Washington Post: “It’s very insulting to hear President Bush say this is for Sept. 11.”
“I don’t think it is reasonable to close the door on inspections after three and a half months,” when Iraq’s government is providing more cooperation than it has in more than a decade.
— Hans Blix, chief weapons inspector for the United Nations.
The Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans support going to war in Iraq, up from 59 percent before the president’s March 17 speech.
“When the president talks about sacrifice, I think the American people clearly understand what the president is talking about.”
— Ari Fleischer
[Asked in January 2007 how Americans have sacrificed, President Bush answered: “I think a lot of people are in this fight. I mean, they sacrifice peace of mind when they see the terrible images of violence on TV every night.”]
Pentagon units will “locate and survey at least 130 and as many as 1,400 possible weapons sites.”
— “Disarming Saddam Hussein; Teams of Experts to Hunt Iraq Arms” by Judith Miller, The Times, Page A1.
President Bush declares war from the Oval Office in a national address: “Our nation enters this conflict reluctantly, yet our purpose is sure.”
Price of a share of Halliburton stock: $20.50
[Value of that Halliburton share on March 16, 2007, adjusted for a split in 2006: $64.12.]
Okay--go drink 20 shots of whisky in the next hour and let me know how it goes...
Halfdan
"Within physical tolerances".
I can put back a 26 in less than 2 hours without falling down. I generally avoid that because I prefer to maintain the buzzed but functional stage.
I would much prefer hearing her sister. Moya or Maire.
EkCenTriK
Personally, I prefer Loretto Reid.
Guess who just stopped by to say 'hi' to you all?
Franny Rose!!!
March 20, 2003
“The pictures you’re seeing are absolutely phenomenal. These are live pictures of the Seventh Cavalry racing across the deserts in southern Iraq. They will — it will be days before they get to Baghdad, but you’ve never seen battlefield pictures like these before.”
— Walter Rodgers, an embedded CNN correspondent.
“It seems quite odd to me that while we are commenced upon a war, we have no funding for that war in this budget.” —Hillary Clinton.
“Coalition forces suffered their first casualties in a helicopter crash that left 12 Britons and 4 Americans dead.” — The Associated Press.
Though the March 23 Oscar ceremony will dispense with the red carpet in deference to the war, an E! channel executive announces there will be no cutback on pre-Oscar programming, but “the tone will be much more somber.”
March 21, 2003
“I don’t mean to be glib about this, or make it sound trite, but it really is a symphony that has to be orchestrated by a conductor.” — Retired Maj. Gen. Donald Shepperd, CNN military analyst, speaking to Wolf Blitzer of the bombardment of Baghdad during Shock and Awe.
[“Many parts of Iraq are stable. But of course what we see on television is the one bombing a day that discourages everyone.” — Laura Bush, “Larry King Live,” Feb. 26, 2007.]
“The president may occasionally turn on the TV, but that’s not how he gets his news or his information. ... He is the president, he’s made his decisions and the American people are watching him.”— Ari Fleischer.
[The former press secretary received immunity from prosecution in the Valerie Wilson leak case and testified in the perjury trial of Scooter Libby in 2007.]
“Peter, I may be going out on a limb, but I’m not sure that the first stage of this Shock and Awe campaign is really going to frighten the Iraqi people. In fact, it may have just the opposite effect. If they feel that they’ve survived the most that the United States can throw at them and they’re still standing, and they’re still able to go about their lives, well, then they might be rather emboldened. They might feel that, well, look, we can stand a lot more than this.” — Richard Engel, a Baghdad correspondent speaking to Peter Jennings on ABC’s “World News Tonight
Regulate them to the point that they can't go to the bathroom without a federal regulator giving them permission.
Apprentice to Darth Hold
And fuck the shareholders. I'm so tired of this "greed is good for everyone" Gordon Gecko zeitgeist this assmin has been preaching the past six years. Left to their own policing, the food industry has poisoned us, the auto industry has sold us moving firebombs, the pharmaceutical industry has tried to hook us on everything from dick pills to instant weight loss in a bottle, etc. The coal industry fucking wrecks the place, then leaves town. The oil industry can't bank its profits fast enough.
And even after all of this, the stock market is teh suck lately.
good evening plum
::matthew
hello! Did you see? The LA Times is talking about us!
"Duncan Black, an economist who writes as Atrios on his website, Eschaton, receives hundreds of comments for almost anything he posts. Thursday morning, he posted a short note saying he would not be writing much that day as he was going to be traveling. Within the hour, 492 people posted comments on that. A political reporter at a metropolitan daily might not get that much reader response in a year."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nati...=la-home-
nation
(an article about Josh's good work on the attorneys dossier)
As war protesters marched toward Arlington Memorial Bridge en route to the Pentagon yesterday, they were flanked by long lines of military veterans and others who stood in solidarity with US troops and the Bush administration's cause ...
So, because you don't want MORE US troops to die, you are not in solidarity with them.
Yeah, it IS the Bush administration's cause....it's not mine!
Fucking hilarious. On the fourth anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq, BoBo at NYT pulls a George Will and writes a column about fucking baseball.
Baseball players are like storm-tossed sailors falling and rising with the slumps and hot streaks that emanate from inaccessible parts of themselves. The rest of us rationalists use statistics to try to understand the patterns of what they do.
The blood on your hands starting to get a little unnerving Mr. Brooks?
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Okay--go drink 20 shots of whisky in the next hour and let me know how it goes...
Halfdan
Hell, I can't drink that much in a week.
Damned man is verbose!
thanks rf--
JR: love ya, but a 26 in 2 hrs is a lot; a 26 in a day is a lot. Be careful out there...
If we are discussing questions of justice: in many jurisdictions you may find yourself incarcerated or worse for looking a particular way to a particular representative of the putative law. Yet, the twice unelected liars who have killed hundreds of thousands are currently free to perpertate numerous additional murders, high crimes, treason and scores of misdemeanors with no consequences to speak of. So justice is, as previously stated, a notion promulgated primarily through teevee and fishwrap.
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Baseball players are like storm-tossed sailors falling and rising with the slumps and hot streaks that emanate from inaccessible parts of themselves.
Okay. That's why I fucking hate him.
Someone pays him big bucks to write such nonsense?
Pisses me off bigtime.
Most alcoholics have the same problems, it's just that the problems don't go away when they get sober.
JR, kerosene and a match.
My ex got clean and sober.
And guess what? All he turned into was a clean and sober asshole.
Franny Rose looks like my Morgane, who passed a few years ago
Within the hour, 492 people posted comments on that
The writer obviously did NOT read the thread.
Had nothing to do with Duncan traveling.
how peculiar...no Madeleine today...
Here's another Franny Rose from a week ago.
Tongue!!!
Most alcoholics have the same problems, it's just that the problems don't go away when they get sober.
JR, kerosene and a match.
Exactly.
Get sober and think all will be better?
Not gonna happen.
.
And guess what? All he turned into was a clean and sober asshole.
Like my father.
He got sober, but he was still an asshole. Then he died of lung cancer.
The end.
Since BushCo is so righteous, why don't they present themselves to a trial at the Hague to prove their innocence?
"A political reporter at a metropolitan daily might not get that much reader response in a year."
msm dude sounded bummed he doesn't get many comments, but it's been my experience that unless you are stroking them, they don't want any comments at all...and can be totally defensive and even prickly if you try to point things out to them.
writing a letter to an editor? shit, they ain't ever gonna print it unless they're hard up, and even then they'll redact at will.
the press hates the internets because it forces them to accountable, in public, in real time.
Plum P | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:08 pm | #
Careful, the MSM has noticed us...
The writer obviously did NOT read the thread.
Had nothing to do with Duncan traveling.
fourlegsgood
like i said in another thread, 250 of those posts were from NTodd and 127 of kitty links. Or something.
how peculiar...no Madeleine today...
Oy.
I'm tired today. Gimme a break.
Oy.
I'm tired today. Gimme a break.
See? First you create a kitty addiction and then you refuse to provide.
msm dude sounded bummed he doesn't get many comments
Not so much in that LAT article that was quoted.
Tongue!!!
Zap
great one!!!
See? First you create a kitty addiction and then you refuse to provide.
Echidne of the snakes
yeah, the first pics are free...after that you gotta pay
As war protesters marched toward Arlington Memorial Bridge en route to the Pentagon yesterday, they were flanked by long lines of military veterans and others who stood in solidarity with US troops and the Bush administration's cause ...
And WHERE was Monkey Boy?
Didn't have the stones to stay in town, did he?
DWD - Diminishing Daily,
Remember how those first few weeks of the invasion seemed like a prolonged late-night infomercial?
and 127 of kitty links.-Plum P
those are good with hotcakes
Here ya go Plum:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...-
madeleine.html
Groove Armada is sounding sooooooo gooooood but I'm running out of gas.
JR: love ya, but a 26 in 2 hrs is a lot; a 26 in a day is a lot. Be careful out there...
ProfWombat
It was special occassion.
Some young pup was challenging my dominance, this old dog had to teach him his place. Being as I was his supervisor, it had to be done.
"Not so much in that LAT article that was quoted."
i thought he came over as pretty jealous...not that he meant it, of course.
overall i thought it was a very positive article from the msm on blogs...far better then most.
Prior Walter is pleasing in "Weeds."
JR: i suppose sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...
I know the post count may not be accurate because of Haloscan - is there a count of how many page views Atrios gets a day?
Happy Saint Patrick's Day all
(first one without my Dad so a little weird - inexeplicably crying in the car to the Pogues today - saw them last weekend and miraculously Shane McGowan lives)
See? First you create a kitty addiction and then you refuse to provide.
I think I've been providing TOO much.
I need to dole them out a little slower. What's funny is the number of foreign readers I have. Pretty much from all over the world.
Kittenz are universal.
Get sober and think all will be better?
Not gonna happen.
.
agave
I don't knpow the stats, but I'm going to guess that these issues also preceded the alcoholism.
great one!!!
I've got about five more from that night . She sticks her tongue out on a very regular basis.
I must go get settled and watch Julia Louis-Dreyfus on SNL (for some reason).
Peace!!
Okay--go drink 20 shots of whisky in the next hour and let me know how it goes...
Halfdan
Hell, I can't drink that much in a week.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
well, i can.
actually i had a friend who almost poisoned him self chugg'n a quart when we were kids. no, no it wasn't me, i swear.
truth is the more i can drink, the more concerned i get.
Max, and how the news channels had a perpetual hard-on for the war both before and and during those weeks? Yep.
Thanks for the Frank Rich. Although lately I think Eugene Robinson has outdone him. His latest, Memo to Gonzales is great.
The blood on your hands starting to get a little unnerving Mr. Brooks?
.
Agent Orange
Thank you! a phrase that needs to be used more often! I don't know if you caught Maher last night, but he referred to the blood on Rumsfeld's hands and the audience--that liberal, would-be cynical audience 'ooooh'ed as if he'd said something controversial.
Dumbfucks.
My favorite saint is Saint Dymphna.
Baseball players are like storm-tossed sailors falling and rising with the slumps and hot streaks that emanate from inaccessible parts of themselves.
How many second-string sailors have Bentleys? Or parts of themselves that are inaccessible?
::matthew, Ian is a ragdoll, yes?
"Remember how those first few weeks of the invasion seemed like a prolonged late-night infomercial?"
to mer it sounded more like the hype before the superbowl...just a big game between good and e-v-i-l.
miraculously Shane McGowan lives
Without any teefeeses.
Plum P - love the radio show.
::matthew, Ian is a ragdoll, yes?
fourlegsgood
yes he is
seal mitted, I think
You know that Ian was guest kittying at my place last night.
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...uest-
kitty.html
The MSM has not noticed us, the MSM after careful consideration has summarily accomplished its highest and best use for us, which is to intimate that private American individuals freely excercising their rights to peacable assembly, freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of association somehow constitute a strange, byzantine, arcane, and very probably unpatriotic fringe cult which should be interfered with and regulated out of existance in order to protect America from the terrorists.
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my father was an alcoholic too. He wouldn't drink all the time, he could go a couple months without a drop...then would spend 2 weeks hammered and violent and a third one sick and depressed. It was pretty horrible. He died of a troath cancer, which was long and painful. He didn't eat a thing the last 3 months of his life. I drank a lot in my twenties, it was a powerfull depressant for me. I kinda stopped in my early 30s. I drink occasionnaly and realised i'm even allergic to red wine. I smoke pot instead. Makes me soft and happier. Less tears and anger.
yes he is
seal mitted, I think
silly peoples was arguing with me yesterday.
Get sober and think all will be better?
Not gonna happen.
.
agave
I don't knpow the stats, but I'm going to guess that these issues also preceded the alcoholism.
JR, kerosene and a match
Oh, without a doubt.
"Baseball players are like storm-tossed sailors falling and rising with the slumps and hot streaks that emanate from inaccessible parts of themselves."
that makes like zero sense to me. he must be channeling the mustache of understanding...
You know that Ian was guest kittying at my place last night.
fourlegsgood
yes, he's a best in show kitty, innit? All groomed and proper.
hey, i have Cats, and a Blog. ok, they aren't as cute as Maddie, but they are kind of cute.
i just want to know why i get so many visitors from China.
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
It's quite the spectacle...
miraculously Shane McGowan lives
Without any teefeeses.
Liquid diet.
I've met him. Trust me. Liquid diet.
JR: i suppose sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...
ProfWombat
Something like that. It's not a regular occurance. Gotta admit the world was kinda wrapped in cotton wool the next morning.
I'll give the kid credit, we were doing this with Wild Turkey. The next afternoon, when he regained conciousness, there was a 1/4 inch of the bird left in his bottle, and he drank it. Without puking.
Baseball players are like storm-tossed sailors falling and rising with the slumps and hot streaks that emanate from inaccessible parts of themselves.
Brooks's columns are where Friedman's fractured metaphors have gone to die.
What makes me, me: Department
Sorry, this has really been bugging me. I have been receiving receiving iron injections at the hosptital for the last week or so. These are done in a small room on the second floor by two nurses in something called the Ambulatory Care Clinic. One of the nurses, last Wednesday, was remarking that her father had been found in the hospice (where he was staying) in a pool of blood. She was worried. When I went in on Friday, the first thing I asked her was," How is your father." She replied, "He died this morning about 5:00 AM."
I asked her why she was here and she replied that they could get another nurse to take her position.
This has bothered me all weekend. What are we doing as people if we cannot give a person time to take care of the one of the most important people in their lives? This simply disgusts me on so many levels.
4lg, you did discuss this with Ian's agent, right.
I'll let him know he was featured in the premiere cat blog
4lg, you did discuss this with Ian's agent, right.
I'll let him know he was featured in the premiere cat blog
Max Planck | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:16 pm | #
The MSM still have that attitude. They seem to report the bad news reluctantly...
Plum P: Jeez, that's a tough one...
It'd be hard to prove alcohol safer than marijuana for general use as an intoxicant...
"Baseball players are like storm-tossed sailors falling and rising with the slumps and hot streaks that emanate from inaccessible parts of themselves."
In a creative writing class, something like this is used as an example of shitty writing.
"Don't let this happen to you!"
As for the 20 shots -I would say death is possible.
Had 13 shots of Black Velvet in about 90 minutes when I was 16 and lived - stayed upright in fact - we were all young and really really stupid, its a wonder one of us didn't get alchohol poisoning.
You know, Bobo Brooks makes me think that it's not my lack of writing skills which keeps me from being in the NYT stables. If he is there, so can I.
using big words and purple ink is way for self-consciously insecurely intellectual conservative to reach out to the common people?
(one great post Not Ready For Prime Time Players SNL skit: George Will's Baseball Machine, or something, a gag gameshow using Will's most pompously overwrought philosophisin' on the game)
Plum P - love the radio show.
dan mcenroe
thank you! I just ordered 65 quids of cds from Rough Trade. It's an expensive hobby i have since the summer of 1993
Plum P - love the radio show.
dan mcenroe
thank you! I just ordered 65 quids of cds from Rough Trade. It's an expensive hobby i have since the summer of 1993
that makes like zero sense to me. he must be channeling the mustache of understanding...
I don't know why his editor didn't read that and vomit on his desk.
That's the most pathetic prose I've read in a while.
(and if you ever had to read what kind of crap my boss churns out you'd understand that that is some statement)
hit the end key, click the site meter, tells you way more than you need to know.
Other than Rich I wonder how many pundits are even going to mention this inglourious anniversary.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:23 pm | #
When Bushie was running for prez, the MSM kept talking about his love of baseball, not talking about his drug addictions and his amazing lack of knowledge about the world.
You know, Bobo Brooks makes me think that it's not my lack of writing skills which keeps me from being in the NYT stables. If he is there, so can I.
As someone who writes for a living, that stuff just makes me go ballistic.
And they gave a guest gig to fucking Althouse. I do not know what they are thinking.
Most Brooks pieces raise the question of whether he has an editor; he could certainly use one...
Plum P:
My dad was an alcoholic, too - helped him at age 64.
That's why I was always cautious about how much I drank - and why I keep a close eye on my two kids.
Whoops = helped KILL him at 64.
That singular, startlingly turgid sentence speaks volumes more about George Will's subconscious conflictions than the game of baseball or any other topic.
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"As for the 20 shots -I would say death is possible."
i would think, unless the drinker is large and/or had built up quite a bit of resistence. according to wiki, with the first number being number of drinks:
1 0.02-.03 Noticeable cognitive changes
5 .10-.15 Person obviously intoxicated, delerium
12 .24-.36 Loss of consciousness
24 .48
When Bushie was running for prez, the MSM kept talking about his love of baseball, not talking about his drug addictions and his amazing lack of knowledge about the world.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
But...but...HE's the kind of guy you want to have a BEER with!
.48 = severe coma, death.
Most Brooks pieces raise the question of whether he has an editor; he could certainly use one...
If he does, that editor must be in a coma.
I do not get it. Everything he writes is either vapid, wrong, badly written or, most usually, all of those things.
It's infuriating.
Most Brooks pieces raise the question of whether he has an editor; he could certainly use one...
ProfWombat
That piece on neo-liberalism last Sunday (IIRC) was truly incoherent. Amazing that it sparked so much debate when all it said was "I like the Peretz-Kelly version of The New Republic, 'cause they think like me".
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
It's quite the spectacle...
I gather that most folks here, if they want to vomit, prefer to do it the old fashioned way by drinking themselves sick.
That's why I was always cautious about how much I drank - and why I keep a close eye on my two kids.
Terry C
as you should.
OH, it was Bobo on bball? So Sorry. Will, bobo, they all look alike to me.
=*=
You know, Bobo Brooks makes me think that it's not my lack of writing skills which keeps me from being in the NYT stables. If he is there, so can I.
Ugh, why would you want to be in the Times' stables?
See their front page today? Main story was the indictments in the Sean Bell shooting here in NYC; you can make a case for that being front page. Next big story was some blather about Obama's Hawaiian upbringing contributing to his charisma or some other shit like that; Plame testimony was relegated to a blurb below the fold with additional coverage on page A-11. Sqaut about the attorney firings.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/17...l.ap/
index.html
It's fucked up that the brand names are listed at the very end of the article. WTF??!
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
It's quite the spectacle...
I gather that most folks here, if they want to vomit, prefer to do it the old fashioned way by drinking themselves sick.
Karin
I've never watched any of those videos.
From what I've heard about her here, I don't WANT to!
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
I'd rather eat okra than listen to her insane rantings.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:29 pm |
Most "writers" in the MSM can't write for shit, just in terms of their prose style. And, of course, there are tons and tons of factual errors. Laziness and an adherence to right wing ideology....
(and if you ever had to read what kind of crap my boss churns out you'd understand that that is some statement)
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
I've seen some fairly high level bidness types attempt to write their company correspondence in a relaxed, sort of conversational manner. That just doesn't work. It often leads to ambiguity, and few end up having the first notion what the idiot wants.
Had 13 shots of Black Velvet in about 90 minutes when I was 16 and lived - stayed upright in fact - we were all young and really really stupid, its a wonder one of us didn't get alchohol poisoning.
My best friend burned his face doing flaming shots of Everclear at 16. Classic.
20 shots in an hour would definitely hospitalize most people. and probably kill the rest.
And they gave a guest gig to fucking Althouse. I do not know what they are thinking.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
obviously, they are drunken editors.
The Brooks piece on Hobbes, Rousseau and contemporary politics was the sort of thing a freshman would write for a professor, who would share it with his colleagues over a few drinks, to howls of laughter...
Ugh, why would you want to be in the Times' stables?
Pays well.
Ugh, why would you want to be in the Times' stables?
It could be quite interesting and then I'd get paid enough to do nothing else.
But you're right. I don't want to be the rat who packs her suitcases in order to climb on the sinking ship.
But...but...HE's the kind of guy you want to have a BEER with!
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:29 pm
That's why the rednecks are turning against him....they're still waiting for that beer...
I do not get it. Everything he writes is either vapid, wrong, badly written or, most usually, all of those things.
It's infuriating.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
Well, of course, it's wrong.
After all, RESEARCH is such a liberal, elitist thing.
Facts interfere with his view of the world.
one thing I'm glad I missed in my competitive drinking days: Jaegermeister.
Isn't nyquil cheaper?
Had 13 shots of Black Velvet in about 90 minutes when I was 16 and lived - stayed upright in fact - we were all young and really really stupid, its a wonder one of us didn't get alchohol poisoning.
13 shots, 45 minutes. And by 'shots' I mean 'large tumblers full of crappy Polish vodka because Volodya kept filling them up'. Only time I've ever blacked out, and apparently puked out our 5th story window for about 6 hours. Couldn't smell vodka for 10 years...
ProfWombat | 03.17.07 - 10:32 pm | #
Pseudo-intellectualism at its peak...he probably read a paragraph about those guys in a "philosophy for untalented dumbasses like David Brooks and Thomas Friedman" and just mentioned them to make himself look cool for the new intern in the office with the big tits...
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
I'd rather eat okra than listen to her insane rantings.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
Her brains are in her implants.
one thing I'm glad I missed in my competitive drinking days: Jaegermeister.
I had a few of those in Austria. Tastes like NyQuil but fairly zoomy.
I've seen some fairly high level bidness types attempt to write their company correspondence in a relaxed, sort of conversational manner.
Oh, that's not his problem.
He can't write a coherent sentence to save his fucking life.
Uber boss and I can't figure out how he got through grad school. In history, no less. Surely you have to write to get a master's in history?
Rachel Maddow commented on her show on Friday that it's been getting more difficult to find stories detailing U.S. casualties in Iraq.
I didn't even know about the soldiers that died yesterday and today until Dr. Turk linked to it above.
You know, Bobo Brooks makes me think that it's not my lack of writing skills which keeps me from being in the NYT stables. If he is there, so can I.
He's there because for 30+ years crazy wingnuts have been whining about "liberal bias." It's affirmative action for idiots.
its a wonder one of us didn't get alchohol poisoning.
You did, it just wasn't fatal.
i would think, unless the drinker is large and/or had built up quite a bit of resistence.
jdw
I'm not large, and I am not a frequent drinker.
I think that there is a tolerance gene, because my father was the same way.
There's a downside to that, being as it costs more to get buzzed.
I'd rather eat okra than listen to her insane rantings.
Oh c'mon now, it's fun.
Then again, I'm a huge fan of the tender green spiny pods.
Most "writers" in the MSM can't write for shit, just in terms of their prose style. And, of course, there are tons and tons of factual errors. Laziness and an adherence to right wing ideology....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Makes me miss Molly Ivins even more!
Couldn't smell vodka for 10 years...
NTodd
there seems to be a lot of people who get ill by the smell of Tequila
Attn Pet Owners:
Massive pet food recall.
Bad stuff.
http://www.wbko.com/news/headlin...es/
6555607.html
Good to see Cindy Sheehan giving what-for today. She's trying to get a tax revolt going, a great idea. Cut the money, the warmongering assholes are done. rightards worried about the troops? have some bakesales, Sell your vacation home and SUV, show them you care for them. Fat chance.
Good to see Cindy Sheehan giving what-for today. She's trying to get a tax revolt going, a great idea. Cut the money, the warmongering assholes are done. rightards worried about the troops? have some bakesales, Sell your vacation home and SUV, show them you care for them. Fat chance.
But for sheer generic plasticity Anna Quisling has had no equal for decades, and that's saying something. The waxen surfaces of Q's petrochemical sentence stucture resemble nothing less than the synthetic structure of the hydrocarbon molecules her items flog with unfailing fidelity. If you enjoy gargling with witch hazel, you'll love Quisling's weekly output.
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St. Patrick's Day, 1989. Can't remember how many shots of tequila I had. Can't stand the smell of it to this day. The lessons we learn.
It's affirmative action for idiots.
Thers | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:35 pm | #
Well put...you think the GOP would be against that...
The Brooks piece on Hobbes, Rousseau and contemporary politics was the sort of thing a freshman would write for a professor, who would share it with his colleagues over a few drinks, to howls of laughter...
Pretty much.
What's even more infuriating is that his nonsense is validated by all the television gigs he gets.
Echidne: how about a new thread just in time to bitch about SNL?
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
I'd rather eat okra than listen to her insane rantings.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave
Actually, you'll like this one. It's...insightful.
one thing I'm glad I missed in my competitive drinking days: Jaegermeister.
I didn't. Got into a bout with a German tourist who called me ignorant because I couldn't tell him where to get laid in Chicago. Or something. It's a bit unclear.
Woke up the next day not knowing where the puke smell was coming from - no visible vomit anywhere. A day later I figure out that for some reason that night I move my stereo, a bookshelf, and rolled back the carpet to puke there and then rolled it all back. Rather than walk four feet from my door to the bathroom. I will never know why I did that.
Good times, good times.
For my 21st I sat on a couch with a bottle of Southern Comfort, puked on myself, shat myself, and continued drinking until I threw the bottle across the room and busted my turntable.
I have not touched the stuff since.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:36 pm |
Molly had a good prose style going, in addition to doing research and archaic things like that...
He's there because for 30+ years crazy wingnuts have been whining about "liberal bias." It's affirmative action for idiots.
Thers
That's what I think, too.
Within the hour, 492 people posted comments on that
The writer obviously did NOT read the thread.
Had nothing to do with Duncan traveling.
I'm gonna cut the LA Times writer some slack. Maybe he did look at the comments but couldn't figure out what the hell we were talking about.
Mysterious references to ferrets, Tweety, Friedman units, drunken Micks, boobies, pants/no pants, Comet Maxx, and so on, plus lots of bad puns.
Within the hour, 492 people posted comments on that
The writer obviously did NOT read the thread.
Had nothing to do with Duncan traveling.
I'm gonna cut the LA Times writer some slack. Maybe he did look at the comments but couldn't figure out what the hell we were talking about.
Mysterious references to ferrets, Tweety, Friedman units, drunken Micks, boobies, pants/no pants, Comet Maxx, and so on, plus lots of bad puns.
there seems to be a lot of people who get ill by the smell of Tequila
::matthew
heh, I must know half a dozen people in that category, and almost all their stories start "one night in college".... including one guy who didn't go to college but spent pretty much every weekend visiting somebody for four or five years after high school
New Atlas Juggs vlog is almost up at YouTube...
I'd rather eat okra than listen to her insane rantings.
Oh, this one is a bit different.
It's affirmative action for idiots.
Thers
Sounds like the Fox Noise Channel.
AND the Bush Regime.
He's there because for 30+ years crazy wingnuts have been whining about "liberal bias." It's affirmative action for idiots.
Can't they find them a nice gig at a Taco Bell instead?
"Had 13 shots of Black Velvet in about 90 minutes when I was 16 and lived - stayed upright in fact - we were all young and really really stupid, its a wonder one of us didn't get alchohol poisoning.
13 shots, 45 minutes. And by 'shots' I mean 'large tumblers full of crappy Polish vodka because Volodya kept filling them up'. Only time I've ever blacked out, and apparently puked out our 5th story window for about 6 hours. Couldn't smell vodka for 10 years..."
Kalua. Open a bottle and I leave the room.
THERS: how about a new thread just in time to bitch about SNL, please?
Plum P | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:37 pm | #
Most overrated show ever (except for the first cast)...
St. Patrick's Day, 1989. Can't remember how many shots of tequila I had. Can't stand the smell of it to this day. The lessons we learn.
You drink tequila on Irish Day, your begging the Gods of poetry and whiskey to gang up on you.
Oh, this one is a bit different.
What is she up to now?
Ugh, why would you want to be in the Times' stables?
Pays well.
So does porn.
Will you put one up, Thers? It's still the day of your lot.
A shot is 1.5 ounces. 13 is ~ 19 ounces, or drinking a can and a half of straight booze. Nomatter how much you weigh, doing that within 1 hour is pretty damn reckless.
A day later I figure out that for some reason that night I move my stereo, a bookshelf, and rolled back the carpet to puke there and then rolled it all back.
Very clever. I'll remember that next time I'm staying with friends.
It's affirmative action for idiots.
Thers
Sounds like the Fox Noise Channel...AND the Bush Regime.
Josh and Duncan are teh hot.
BTW, I don't think Josh deserved quite the credit he's given in the article for Lott's downfall. I'd have to review archives but I read this site and TPM at the time, as well as a few others, and I remember Atrios doing a lot to keep the Lott story alive -- at least as much as Josh or anyone else if memory serves.
and so on, plus lots of bad puns.
"Bad" puns is redundant, in't?
Dylan is 65 here, and yet, has more intensity than rockers 40 years younger than him....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?
v=IRblTSqo1f0
most people who comment on this blog are better writers than bobo.
100 monkeys and a typewriter...
Have a great recipe for okra from Madhur Jaffrey--lots of spice, cooked a long time; no slime...
Okay, I bought Maddie a bunch of toys today and she STILL wants to play with milk jug rings.
Everyone needs to start mailing them to me.
Will you put one up, Thers? It's still the day of your lot.
Echidne
dont post at the same time! It was so confusing this afternoon
I spent my 21st on a train from Nice to Wien drinking Pelforth Brune...
"I think that there is a tolerance gene, because my father was the same way."
read where it has to do with how much ADH you have in yer body...the more adh, the more you can drink.
iirc, i once pegged about .37, and along with drugs, i'm just lucky to be here...
For my 21st I sat on a couch with a bottle of Southern Comfort, puked on myself, shat myself, and continued drinking until I threw the bottle across the room and busted my turntable.
Are you sure we've never dated? You sound...familiar.
You drink tequila on Irish Day, your begging the Gods of poetry and whiskey to gang up on you.
They beat my Irish ass black and blue. I deserved it.
I'd have to review archives but I read this site and TPM at the time, as well as a few others, and I remember Atrios doing a lot to keep the Lott story alive
JMM has like mad Beltway creds and shit. Washington Monthly, American Prospect, maybe even TNR.
Everyone needs to start mailing them to me.
fourlegsgood
there's dozen of them under your sofa?
"Everyone needs to start mailing them to me.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave"
Sorry, my four will not give theirs up. Course then we take them away when we find them, our guys like to trying choking on them.
"13 shots, 45 minutes. Only time I've ever blacked out, and apparently puked out our 5th story window for about 6 hours. Couldn't smell vodka for 10 years..."
The idiot club for 16 year olds- another guy drank so much rum (right out of the bottle - not shots to measure) that his Dad got called - he never drank again.. Funny though that the Dad didn't pull the plug on the whole operation - those were the days when the drinking age was 18 though.
dont post at the same time! It was so confusing this afternoon
That's why I asked him. No answer yet.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave | Homepage | 03.17.07 - 10:40 pm | #
My cat never plays with cat toys...it's milk rings and bottle caps...
The smell of tequila makes me queasy.
LA Times:
Since then, advertising has grown to such an extent that dozens of blogs are now profitable enterprises.
Dozens??!! Hah! Most blogs sell a single blogad or get a couple clicks on a Google AdSense ad and they are instantly profitable. Doesn't mean the blogger can quit his day job, but he's not losing anything on the blog.
Will you put one up, Thers? It's still the day of your lot.
As you wish, my Lady.
there's dozen of them under your sofa?
No, I looked. I don't know what she does with them.
Oh, this one is a bit different.
*cough*
most people who comment on this blog are better writers than bobo.
For tossed-off comments with no expected longevity the writing here is pretty damned good.
Dozens??!! Hah! Most blogs sell a single blogad or get a couple clicks on a Google AdSense ad and they are instantly profitable. Doesn't mean the blogger can quit his day job, but he's not losing anything on the blog.
Nonpolitical blogs are actually more profitable. Like gossip blogs. I doubt there are more than a handful of political blogs which make enough to support the blogger without any other source of funding.
One glass of wine and one beer a month is about all I can handle...
heh, I must know half a dozen people in that category, and almost all their stories start "one night in college"....
Well, one night, in college...
Halloween, 1981, should have killed me, apparently.
Man, too many typos lately, and I'm not imbibing anything but java ce soir. Further proof of the little-known yet nonetheless well established as I have maintained all along fact that alcohol and various other substances in proper relative titration do in fact heighten rather than dull a number of different faculties.
=*=
The smell of tequila makes me queasy.
I can't even look at the bottles when I'm in the liquor store.
Not good times.
How the fuck long does it take YouTube to "process" a 2meg QuickTime video?
I got invited to join a cat blog.
I kid you not.
My father drank to get drunk, typically on Friday and Saturday nights but on weekdays as well as time went on. He was a real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He was mild mannered and articulate while sober, a raving lunatic while drunk.
Have a great recipe for okra from Madhur Jaffrey--lots of spice, cooked a long time; no slime...
She's a great cook. Her cookbook is one of the ones I refer to most.
c'mon Thers!
I don't get Tequila too much. It tastes bitter to me even when layered into things like sunrises or margaritas.
How the fuck long does it take YouTube to "process" a 2meg QuickTime video?
Kind of a long time.
For tossed-off comments with no expected longevity ...
wtfwjd?
Mr. wtfwjd, meet Mr. NSA.
Mr. NSA, meet Mr. wtfwjd.
I kid you not.
fourlegsgood,
don't you kinda have one right now?
How the fuck long does it take YouTube to "process" a 2meg QuickTime video?
They're trying to protect you.
Actually, you'll like this one. It's...insightful.
NTodd, Balding
does this mean you can see her tits?
Have a great recipe for okra from Madhur Jaffrey--lots of spice, cooked a long time; no slime...
I don't like the taste, even without the slime.
Makes me gag.
iirc, i once pegged about .37, and along with drugs, i'm just lucky to be here...
jdw
Well, I never measured my BAC, but the aforementioned Halloween involved a bottle of rose and a mickey each of tequila and rye, plus 3 jays of sensi and half a dime (hey, I shared!) of Lebanese black.
I was still self-mobile and aware of my surroundings.
The next morning was a bit rough, though.
there seems to be a lot of people who get ill by the smell of Tequila
::matthew
Tequila has strange effects on people. I've seen people break out their own windshields while drunk on it, seen others get really provocative. Can't explain it but it does have weird effects on people.
don't you kinda have one right now?
Well, it's not just about the cats, even though it's probably seemed that way lately.
How the fuck long does it take YouTube to "process" a 2meg QuickTime video?
NTodd, Balding
You didn't launch a bottle rocket out of your butt, did you? Youtube must figure they have enough of those.
In college I was usually the only sober one at parties...people usually drank all week...I drank on Friday, and I physically couldn't drink on Saturday, so I just didn't....
Isn't real tequila just liquid mescaline? It makes people batshit nuts.
ProfWombat, I should very much like some of your therapeutic chicken soup, and a restorative beverage. My granddaughter has passed her cold to me.
Well, one night, in college...
Trip to Montreal, first time I'm "legal" since the drinking age there was 18 and so gosh darn so was I. Went through the better part of a bottle of tequila and smoked on top of it. Woke up in my hotel with my pillow soaked in blood and a four inch gash across my forehead. No idea how it got there.
So did you guys do an "Atlas Juggs" parody video?
I had a dream a couple night ago where I went back in time. It must have been 1980 or so. I was thinking that I knew so much about the future that I could do all sorts of things that would make me rich, famous & powerful.
So what did I do in my dream?
I recorded "Melting With You" the song that Modern English would have recorded later if I hadn't beat them to it. Only my version sucked and it wasn't even a minor hit.
I can't remember the rest of the dream.
How the fuck long does it take YouTube to "process" a 2meg QuickTime video?
I've put up 2 meg files and 90 meg files and found there wasn't a huge amount of difference in processing time. The files are probably spend most of their time while allegedly being "processed" just idly waiting in a queue.
"Well, I never measured my BAC, but the aforementioned Halloween involved a bottle of rose and a mickey each of tequila and rye, plus 3 jays of sensi and half a dime (hey, I shared!) of Lebanese black."
sounds like a typical halloween at ou.
I actually woke up twice last night from nightmares.
I don't remember what they were about though.
Isn't real tequila just liquid mescaline? It makes people batshit nuts.
God, I miss it. But it seems a bit wrong to get that goofy when you've got kids 'n stuff.
I am pretty much, nay entirely, nay totally smitten with that little tiger kitten. If she prefers milk jug rings she shall have them carefully selected from the finest milk jugs available for purchase or private manufacture on this or any other continent.
=*=
the time i ost got drunk was at 18 on Southern Confort. Just the smell of it makes me sick even 22 years later
I don't get Tequila too much. It tastes bitter to me even when layered into things like sunrises or margaritas.
EkCenTrik
Patron
but don't bother if you're just going to ruin it with mixes.
sallyh: you got it. And a glass or two of Viognier while you wait for the root vegetables to soften...
Isn't real tequila just liquid mescaline? It makes people batshit nuts.
ronjazz
Nope, two differnt animals. I've had mescal, homebrew from New Mexico. Teqila is fermented agave.
I can't remember the rest of the dream.
lol
I once had one of those dreams where I was told the secret of the universe or something and I decided to remember it in the dream, somehow knowing that I was dreaming.
So when I woke up I did remember it. It was to put a coat hanger end into a tennis sock.
I am pretty much, nay entirely, nay totally smitten with that little tiger kitten. If she prefers milk jug rings she shall have them carefully selected from the finest milk jugs available for purchase or private manufacture on this or any other continent.
Excellent!
I'm rather fond of her too.
D R A P E S
Patron
but don't bother if you're just going to ruin it with mixes.
charley
I'll drink patron or don julio neat...others need lots of fruit sugar and ice
The smell of tequila makes me queasy.
fourlegsgood
I drank too much tequla once. Couldn't get near it for 5 years. Now I'm ok with it.
a mickey each of tequila and rye
Rye is the weird uncle of whiskey.
Stayed quite sober in college, which was no mean feat...
God, I miss it. But it seems a bit wrong to get that goofy when you've got kids 'n stuff.
dan mcenroe
My parents trained me to be the bartender at parties. I was 10. I didn't drink any of it then, though.
There are many particulars I have revealed about myself here, but the incident on my 18th birthday involving Tequila, among other questionable things, will not ever be one of them.
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Day feast Patrick happy on you, too.
And today's Irish word of the day is "poit" (sorry, I can't do the long "o" symbol) meaning excessive drinking or a hangover from same.
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