Pay attention to the locals unplugging their generators from the grid; I expect that to start happening in the US before this decade is over.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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08.04.07 - 5:28 pm | #
no water either - With temperatures in Iraq edging close to 120 degrees Fahrenheit, there could not be a more dangerously inconvenient time for Baghdad's decrepit infrastructure to fail on the delivery of water.
Residents and city officials said large sections in the west of the capital had been virtually dry for six days because the already strained electricity grid cannot provide sufficient power to run water purification and pumping stations, according to the AP.
Adel al-Ardawi, a spokesman for the Baghdad city government, said that even with sufficient electricity "it would take 24 hours for the water mains to refill so we can begin pumping to residents. And even then the water won't be clean for a time."
what got really wiggy for me was getting to know the professor who taught me African history. he is Ethiopian and was there during the famines and political troubles. to hear him matter of factly discuss running from the city to the country and back to escape the violence was sobering.
when he saw I was the only one affected by rwanda he went off - told the class either they were not human or they did not do the readings.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 5:22 pm |
We've got quite a few medical residents from Africa.
It's very sad when they tell me I'm really the first American they've met who knows much about the continent (particularly the genocides/mass murders). And I really don't know much.
I think that I'm something of an empath, that's why it affects me, but I still keep reading. I need to try and understand as much as possible.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 08.04.07 - 5:26 pm |
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Damn you mer!
And the power grid in Philadelphia is much worse!
spinoza |
08.04.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Aren't Hoof & Mouth and Antrax related?
Seems I recall something along those lines.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:30 pm | #
BAGHDAD (AP) - Iraq's electricity grid could collapse any day because of insurgent sabotage, rising demand, fuel shortages
Why can't you see the progress????
Right Wing Wanker |
08.04.07 - 5:30 pm | #
The Greek Orthodox Church in Cyprus has announced plans to invest $234m (£115m) in solar energy.
Archbishop Chrysostomos II said the church would build a factory that would make photo-voltaic panels to capture the sun's energy.
He said proceeds from the investment would be used to provide financial help to clergy and fund other social work.
The government has warned of power cuts in 2008 if the island does not secure additional electricity supplies.
The move follows criticism of the state-run Cyprus electricity authority's apparent failure to cope with increased demand during the recent heatwave which triggered power cuts on the island.
The Orthodox Church is among the island's biggest landowners with sizeable investments in banking, construction, hotels and wine-making.
Bill Kristol thinks this is good news.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Fuel shortages in Iraq is an anomaty.
mer |
08.04.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Uhh, Anthrax.
Not the band either.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:31 pm | #
The surge is working it is just not electrical in nature?
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point |
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08.04.07 - 5:31 pm | #
"I will kill myself. I have no meaning in life after you," al-Jibouri cried, standing at the gate of a morgue awaiting his sons' bodies. He kissed each of them before their coffins were closed.
Philly is a good place to be; grid likely to stay up due to PJM.
My guess is that the midWest will be the place where some governor says, fuck that shit, I'm keeping my local grid on during the summer or winter and fuck the rest of the country, FERC doesn't have troops at its disposal.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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08.04.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Those poor people. Temperatures at 120 degrees and no electricity. Criminal, to say the least.
mer
How did they ever get by until a/c was invented?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 5:32 pm | #
Plum P and Hecate and Uncle Smokes: this is as bad as it gets. We walked to the train station through the bleak landscape. On the rise of a hill just above the station, we saw a scene before us that is burned forever in my memory. They say that time is a constant, but it was not that day. Instead, the scene before us appeared no more than a bleak watercolor painting. As we gazed, it seemed that everyone and everything was locked into their ositions as if they were afraid to move. It is a scene I will never forget.
As we stared at the still life watercolor with its gauzy images displayed before us and tried to understand what we were seeing, our vision was disturbed by an approaching train as its mournful whistle ripped the sky. Its stack belched dark clouds into the still blue and white world, and its driving wheels beat out a mechanical background to the sterile scene.
As we stared, we noticed that there were Nazis lining the tracks. Spaced about thirty feet apart, they stood with their weapons ready. Some carried rifles, and a few had automatic weapons, but all were poised for action.
As the train entered the station, we could see that the train’s cars, usually reserved for transporting livestock, were filled with people. Even with a casual glance, I could see that these people looked no more than walking skeletons. They were so pale and thin their bones were clearly visible in their hands and faces as they pressed against the slats exposing them to the elements. I thought they looked like they were already dead, and I wanted to avert my eyes: I did not. Instead, some force drew me to stare at this maudlin scene.
As the train came to a stop, I noticed that a board on the side of one of the cars had come loose. A young Jewish woman delicately pushed a small infant through the crack. Why she did this, I have never understood. What did she hope to accomplish? To this day I cannot say that I know with any certainty. I suppose if I had been her, I might have done the same. But, of this, I am less than sure. I understand it better now, but I still do not think I could have done what she did.
A German soldier moved toward the baby where it lay crying on the white snow. I reached for my father and felt his strong arm on my shoulder as he pulled me close. The soldier stood over the baby with his weapon in a firing position. It looked as if he were readying the gun for firing, but my mind would not let me believe that anyone could do this. The mother managed to jump from the car but landed wrong. When she tried to walk, it was obvious that her leg was broken. Disregarding the pain, she began moving toward the baby, hopping on her good leg and dragging the other behind her. From my vantage point, I could see the panic and hatred in her eyes. The soldier’s upper lip twitched as he walked close to the infant, lowered his rifle to the baby’s head, looked the other way, and squeezed the trigger.
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point |
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08.04.07 - 5:33 pm | #
Mad skillz. And awesome secret internet powers.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 5:33 pm | #
Continued
The mother’s scream ripped from her heart as she limped pitifully toward the soldier. As the seconds passed, I could tell she was cursing him as strongly as I have ever heard anyone curse another. As I stared, I realized that she looked like she was on the verge of death as she staggered to her dead baby.
Helplessly, with tears streaming, she told the soldier that his time was coming. With no expression whatsoever, the soldier raised his weapon to her head and pulled the trigger again and again.
With each retort of the rifle, an involuntary spasm rocked my body. These visions are still with me. I cannot loose them from my consciousness. They have become part of me, and damn them for that. It was at that moment that I learned that hate is not always a bad word. Sometimes, hate is necessary to understand that which cannot be understood without the benefit of this lens to sharpen our focus.
I heard my father cry, “Oh, my God.” I looked at him. His face was pale, and he clenched his fists time and again. I turned my head toward him, clung closely, and let my tears fall.
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08.04.07 - 5:33 pm | #
Now that I am no longer banned, I have nothing pertinent to say outside of a string of expletives, from which I will spare you.
thebewilderness |
08.04.07 - 5:33 pm | #
Pelosi/Sheehan : so, everyone's so cool with Pelosi's (and the House's) inaction on the war and on Bush that no one should run that can push her further to the left? They shouldn't be challenged to do what they promised us they'd do in 2006?
Meander, embittered liberal
plantsman -- of course, my expectations are unrealistic. I keep expecting Democrats to oppose Republicans. How unrealistic.
Meander, embittered liberal |
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08.04.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Those poor people. Temperatures at 120 degrees and no electricity. Criminal, to say the least.
Making bush live, and work in that crawford pig farm without AC if it again was a working farm, would be a good place to incarcerate him.
Doug |
08.04.07 - 5:34 pm | #
So elevators now have TV's in them?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Now that I am no longer banned, I have nothing pertinent to say outside of a string of expletives, from which I will spare you.
Please do. Be my honored guest.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:34 pm | #
So elevators now have TV's in them?
I know there are refrigerators with TV's in them.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:35 pm | #
The rethugs in the House are going to scream bloody murder that they haven't been able to vote on the FISA bill, but in the meantime they keep dragging out voting on the Energy Bill.
ql-was in NY |
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08.04.07 - 5:36 pm | #
Next they're going to put them in restrooms.
If they haven't already.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 5:37 pm | #
I have nothing pertinent to say outside of a string of expletives, from which I will spare you.
At least nine people have been killed and dozens wounded in a suicide car bomb attack in northwest Pakistan.
The bomber car rammed his car into vehicles parked near a bus station in Parachinar, in North West Frontier Province near the border with Afghanistan, security officials said.
"Five people died on the spot while four died in the hospital," Hanif Jan, senior doctor at the main government hospital in Parachinar, said on Saturday.
He said that 35 people had been wounded, some critically.
dirk, if you really wanted to put a good string of expletives together, you should have joined the Marines.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:38 pm | #
dirk, if you really wanted to put a good string of expletives together, you should have joined the Marines.
Barndog, fully Blissed
so i've heard - mostly from the ex-marines on the docks.
OK, you refreshingly rational Moonbats, the well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner, and I believe that I will let him. Stay human. It's not as easy as it sounds. If I am lucky, I'll talk with you later tonight.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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08.04.07 - 5:40 pm | #
OK, you refreshingly rational Moonbats, the well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner, and I believe that I will let him. Stay human. It's not as easy as it sounds. If I am lucky, I'll talk with you later tonight.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
If he plays his cards right, will he be showing you his O-Face?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Shock and awe was a fucking great success was it not?
Blowing shit up is what Chimpy is good at. Putting it back together is not so easy.
sally |
08.04.07 - 5:41 pm | #
#$%@!! *&^%!!
and furthermore...
C'mon Gomez - you're an attorney. I've known many in my years. You can do better.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:41 pm | #
is thebewilderness someone with a beard, dogs and carpentry skills?
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 5:42 pm | #
CHICAGO - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton refused Saturday to forsake campaign donations from lobbyists, turning aside challenges from her two main rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination with a rare defense of the special interest industry.
"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do," Clinton said, drawing boos and hisses from liberal bloggers at the second Yearly Kos convention.
Why anyone supports HRC or anyone with this mindset is beyond me.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 5:43 pm | #
bye for now
Moonbootica, Graduated |
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08.04.07 - 5:43 pm | #
the well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner, and I believe that I will let him.
I'm very glad you're still letting him buy you dinners. Wear your pearls, won't you?
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 5:43 pm | #
is thebewilderness someone with a beard, dogs and carpentry skills?
This has my vote.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:44 pm | #
"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do,"
"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do,"
As opposed to fake Americans; who only appear on blogs.
And some lobbyists, who don't represent anyone, but are merely confused and can't find their way home. Oh, and those lobbyists who represent foreigners. But foreigners merely sap our purity of essence, so they should be disregarded.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 5:46 pm | #
i've got a run in my tights and have to pick up another pair
A real man knows how to sew, and knit.
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:47 pm | #
A real man knows how to sew, and knit.
Barndog, fully Blissed | 08.04.07 - 5:47 pm | #
She didn't forget: Sametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.
"She was either told to come to work or be fired or she was afraid to call in sick _ one of those things," said police Lt. Michael Fowler.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 5:48 pm | #
"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do," Clinton said, drawing boos and hisses from liberal bloggers at the second Yearly Kos convention.
I told you they were hateful people.
/Bill O
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 5:48 pm | #
She didn't forget:
Sametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.
"She was either told to come to work or be fired or she was afraid to call in sick _ one of those things," said police Lt. Michael Fowler.
Culture of TrÜth
Don't we have emergency rooms for this kind of thing?
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 5:49 pm | #
i can't see or reach the area that needs repair
I was under the impression you were naked most of the time, dirk.
Am I misinformed?
Barndog, fully Blissed |
08.04.07 - 5:49 pm | #
She didn't forget:
Sametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.
"She was either told to come to work or be fired or she was afraid to call in sick _ one of those things," said police Lt. Michael Fowler.
Culture of TrÜth
Almost every other civilized country has day care. But not Murka.
Oh, no......
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 5:49 pm | #
So, she'll be damned for working.
And she'd be damned if she was on welfare.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 5:50 pm | #
I was under the impression you were naked most of the time, dirk.
Am I misinformed?
Barndog, fully Blissed | 08.04.07 - 5:49 pm | #
She had left Triniti and Shawn with battery-powered fans, food and drinks, but it was not nearly enough to combat the sweltering conditions inside. She later told relatives that when she got to the car at 11:30 p.m., the children were unconscious and had weak pulses.
Heyward, 27, was charged with two counts of homicide by child abuse. A funeral for the children was held Saturday.
Her friends and her bosses and even the officers who arrested her say Heyward had been trying her best: working long hours and providing for her children.
She and her children had moved in May into the $185-a-week apartment in Hanahan, a bedroom community of about 14,000 people some 15 miles from Charleston.
A few months before the move, she put a newborn up for adoption. A 12-year-old son lives with his father in Maryland.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 5:54 pm | #
A 12-year-old son lives with his father in Maryland.
Culture of TrÜth
27 with a 12 year old.
Damn.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 5:55 pm | #
Perhaps.
But would her bosses?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATB
Just speculating about wastefulness in the system as a whole. That this should not have happened.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 5:56 pm | #
Iraq's electricity grid could collapse any day because of insurgent sabotage, rising demand, fuel shortages and provincial officials who are unplugging local power stations from the national system, electricity officials said on Saturday.
It's that pesky Reality, with it's annoying Liberal Bias, again.
Stop having your cherished assumptions blown away by troublesome attacks of Reality! Get Republican Reality Lite(tm) today, and you'll Never Have to Change your Mind Again!
No electricity means no way to power the water pumps, which means no water.
We really need to send kristol over there.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 5:59 pm | #
Is Enron in charge?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 5:59 pm | #
it is the fault of the leftwing bloggers and their mean spirited attacks from Micheal OHanlon
Liars for Bush |
08.04.07 - 5:59 pm | #
That this should not have happened.
Culture of TrÜth |
No, it shouldn't have.
Women shouldn't have to choose between their kids' safety and losing their jobs.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 5:59 pm | #
I'm not saying stuff like this doesn't happen in Canada or France of Britain or Oz - it does. But not as a direct result of the very nature of government.
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 6:01 pm | #
Those green zone burger king signs glowing in the otherwise black-out Baghdad night should only help to increase our popularity.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 6:03 pm | #
WASHINGTON - Afghanistan will produce another record poppy harvest this year that cements its status as the world's near-sole supplier of the heroin source, yet a furious debate over how to reverse the trend is stalling proposals to cut the crop, U.S. officials say.
High Fives at the CIA!
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 6:03 pm | #
If they don't have electricity they won't have to watch Glenn Beck's shitty show.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 6:04 pm | #
How could she not have known that keeping them in a locked car was dangerous. I bet it's not the first time she did it.
ql-was in NY |
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08.04.07 - 6:04 pm | #
"candlelight dinners are great! no air conditioning in 130 degrees is just what the surgeon general ordered"-Ken Pollack
jr |
08.04.07 - 6:04 pm | #
Caring about animals....or afraid it will lose money?
ATLANTA - Michael Vick lost another sponsor - Rawlings.
The sports goods company said Tuesday it was ending its relationship with the Atlanta Flacons quarterback because of dogfighting conspiracy charges.
``Rawlings recognizes that Mr. Vick has not been convicted of the charges stemming from his recent indictment,'' the St. Louis company said. ``However, we have determined that ending our relationship with Mr. Vick at this time is necessary.''
Rawlings used Vick's image in promotional displays in stores, and its decision is the latest commercial setback for the NFL star.
Last week, Nike suspended a lucrative contract with Vick, and Reebok stopped sales of his No. 7 jersey. Upper Deck removed all Vick autographed memorabilia from its online store and said it was removing Vick trading cards from NFL sets to be released in October.
``Rawlings is disappointed about the charges brought against Mr. Vick for his alleged participation in a dogfighting operation,'' the company said. ``Dogfighting is illegal and entirely unacceptable to Rawlings.''
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:05 pm | #
yet a furious debate over how to reverse the trend is stalling proposals to cut the crop, U.S. officials say.
I wonder if they're using heroin at that debate.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 6:05 pm | #
Re-HICA!
Speakin' of 130°, it's 101°F here in the 37209, today.
I've had two naps, and I still feel like hell. Maybe I have some dread disease. Yesterday just sucked the life right out of me.
I'm thinkin' I may take a run over to the local Messican restaurant for dinner, to treat myself. I kinda need to hit Target, and it's in the same area. Plus, I could stop and get a Redbox flick.
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08.04.07 - 6:07 pm | #
I guess if Sametta Heyward had been a white fundie like this woman, offers of help would have come from everywhere:
"candlelight dinners are great! no air conditioning in 130 degrees is just what the surgeon general ordered"-Ken Pollack
jr
Actually, what he said was, if there isn't a political solution, the lack of electricity could be a problem.
And there should be a political solution, because America kicked over the Iraqi ant mound, and now is leaving it to them to repair everything. Why they can't just work together and create democracy out of chaos (something that has never been done in the history of the world, AFAIK), is apparently the Iraqis fault.
But Pollack and O'Hanlon regret that their comments were misconstrued.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:09 pm | #
Large families are a blessing. As long as they're white and Christian.
/Winger.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Afghanistan will produce another record poppy harvest
Poppy harvest - Isn't that Barbara Bush's nickname for her kids?
elkal |
08.04.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Large families are a blessing. As long as they're white and Christian.
/Winger.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
You forgot rich; or at least upper middle class.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Well, isn't THAT just special.
August with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:11 pm | #
August with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
No one will be left by September but terrorists. Then we can dust off and nuke the whole place from space.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:12 pm | #
I just hope they get through summer soon in Iraq. That is one thing we aren't really appreciating. At best 2-4 hours of electricity a day on days that get into the high triple digits. For years now.
How would we be reacting if this was going on in Houston or Miami for this long?
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 6:12 pm | #
August with no electricity.
No wonder the Iraqi government lit outta town.
elkal |
08.04.07 - 6:12 pm | #
Re-HICA!
Speakin' of 130°, it's 101°F here in the 37209, today.
Wow.
It's only 91 here. In August. Crazy.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:12 pm | #
How would we be reacting if this was going on in Houston or Miami for this long?
trifecta
Or New Orleans.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:13 pm | #
No one will be left by September but terrorists. Then we can dust off and nuke the whole place from space.
I think you've identified Plan B.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:13 pm | #
Large families are a blessing. As long as they're white and Christian.
/Winger.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
She's going to keep on having them till menopause shuts her down.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:13 pm | #
The news may sound unsettling over there,
But mind you, there's no reason to despair,
In fact, there's every reason to keep grinning:
Petraeus will, next month, report we're winning.
Hey, it's going to cool down to 104 on Wednesday in Iraq. That's something.
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 6:13 pm | #
They could use our chickenhawks for fuel.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 6:13 pm | #
Then we can dust off and nuke the whole place from space.
That option will always be on the table, and you can't make me take it off!!
elkal |
08.04.07 - 6:13 pm | #
How would we be reacting if this was going on in Houston or Miami for this long?
trifecta
I'd have driven to Washington and put a head or two on my pitchfork.
But I'm cranky that way when I get hot.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:14 pm | #
August with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Or die from the heat....or from thirst.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:14 pm | #
I just went out to take more photos of my scooter handiwork from this morning, and it's like a fucking oven outside.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #
I feel guilty now that I have AC.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #
Hey, it's going to cool down to 104 on Wednesday in Iraq. That's something.
trifecta
They could use our chickenhawks for fuel.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Throw in Patraeus and you're talking my language.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #
No electricity means no way to store baby food or medicine.
Culture of life! Culture of life!
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #
Or die from the heat....or from thirst.
When the electricity goes they won't have any potable water either.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #
August with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.
Or they all die of heat exhaustion and dehydration...
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 6:16 pm | #
When the electricity goes they won't have any potable water either.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
That's already in short supply. Makes concerns about a/c rather irrelevant.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:16 pm | #
A friend of mine is over there right now.
Ack.
I think he's coming back this week though.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:16 pm | #
Or they all die of heat exhaustion and dehydration...
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
I wonder if that's the plan.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:16 pm | #
That's already in short supply. Makes concerns about a/c rather irrelevant.
I think they're mostly concerned with getting water and keeping their food from spoiling.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:17 pm | #
Citizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 6:18 pm | #
Oh well, in happier news, I ordered mah new car today.
Citizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 6:18 pm | #
Lets face it. A day without TV would cause a revolution here.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Pelosi/Sheehan : so, everyone's so cool with Pelosi's (and the House's) inaction on the war and on Bush
I applaud Sheehan. Pelosi and Reid are a disgrace to the billions of people that hoped they would stand up to Bush and Cheney.
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08.04.07 - 6:20 pm | #
I think they're mostly concerned with getting water and keeping their food from spoiling.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
Yup. You can tell how far removed from the reality of no electricity we are. I know people who saw their first electrical appliance as young children, and then it was a demonstration. They still live in the Houston area, having grown up without a/c. But they had wells for water.
A/C you can live without. Water is another matter. And even NPR was reporting this a.m. that potable water is in short supply in some areas. That situation is not improving, either.
But Kristol sees more clearly than we, and knows all those thirsty people are just ingrates who don't appreciate our gifts of freedom.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Foot-in-mouth disease found in the White House?
elkal |
08.04.07 - 6:20 pm | #
4LGS what kinda car did you buy?
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Citizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 6:18 pm | #
American's priorities have reached the point where they would much rather give up their constitutional rights than their cars or air conditioners
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Tacitus Voltaire |
08.04.07 - 6:21 pm | #
4LGS what kinda car did you buy?
Honda Fit.
It's perfect for me- I mostly just drive around the city. Has lots of space for tripods and stuff.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:22 pm | #
Citizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon
3 days, and they'd be going nuts or giving up. I was in Houston when Rita knocked out our power for about that long. I recalled farmers who'd lived in the area 70 years earlier, who would have simply cleared the debris and re-lit the lamps and pumped water out of the well and lit the fire.
We had to have matches to light the gas stove, batteries to keep the radio going, and no lights at all when the sun went down, except flashlights. Such is progress.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:22 pm | #
I'm waiting for the Smart to arrive next year.
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 6:22 pm | #
It's been a pleasure.
Monica_A: Superdevil |
08.04.07 - 6:22 pm | #
American's priorities have reached the point where they would much rather give up their constitutional rights than their cars or air conditioners
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Tacitus Voltaire
Sad, but true.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:23 pm | #
It's almost obnoxiously bright.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
Fella on my street has a bright red one.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:24 pm | #
feel guilty now that I have AC.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #
No need to feels remorseful, cool the air,
If fact, throw in a can of frosty beer:
As Chimpy says, if we don't beat the heat there
The heat will come and fight us over here.
Fly-fornication Moscowitz |
08.04.07 - 6:24 pm | #
Vivid Blue pearl.
I figured since I wuz geting a funky car it should be a funky bright color.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:25 pm | #
What are the Browns offering the boy?
billy b - west coast blues |
08.04.07 - 6:25 pm | #
Fella on my street has a bright red one.
I love the red, but I'd have had to wait until late September for a red one.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:26 pm | #
We had to have matches to light the gas stove, batteries to keep the
radio going, and no lights at all when the sun went down, except
flashlights. Such is progress.
We have my husband's grandmother's oil lamps on the sideboard. He's 72...and remembers their complete self sufficiency. Thinking of installing her woodstove as auxilliary heat in winter. Can't imagine what we would do without the A/C...suffocate probably.
A collapsing electrical grid actually is good news since it means Iraqis are learning to conserve. It will be the first "green" democracy in the Middle East. Green is on the March!
I love the red, but I'd have had to wait until late September for a red one.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Nothing wrong with the blue.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 6:27 pm | #
My town is really getting into the alternative fuel thingy. Within a mile of the house there is a biodiesel station, and this week-end a natural gas filling station for vehicles just opened.
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 6:27 pm | #
Can't imagine what we would do without the A/C...suffocate probably.
I would die.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:28 pm | #
I'd be too frightened to drive one of those here.
But the Fit should be fun- it's small and kind of peppy and even rather hip among the young crowd.
I saw them all over Paris in 2001. If they can handle Paris traffic they should do Austin just fine. I understand they are quite well rated for safety. You made a good choice though considering your photography gear has to go somewhere.
No, I really like the blue.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:28 pm | #
Walked around Austin yesterday. The heat (the humidity wasn't that bad, compared to Houston) got to my daughter much worse than it got to me.
All a matter of what you're used to. I spent my childhood summers out doors in East Texas. A/C was a luxury. Now, it's as common as drinking water.
So it goes.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:29 pm | #
Fly,
Are you sure you're not Calvin Trillin?
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 6:29 pm | #
If they can handle Paris traffic they should do Austin just fine
Paris isn't filled with assholes driving gigantic SUVs, Hummers and pickup trucks.
But yes, I do need me some cargo space.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:29 pm | #
What are the Browns offering the boy?
billy b - west coast blues
8 mill guaranteed. Around 1 mill per year base.
Incentives. He wants more.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 6:29 pm | #
When the electricity goes they won't have any potable water either.
They already don't have potable water.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
Blue would be my choice too.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillass@aol.com |
08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
I got a Fit it's great - and safe as well
tchange |
08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
Its the reason the Browns suck.
You pay extra for a first round QB to get him into camp.
FUCK the money. They print it in the NFL.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
I still have the loaner car from the Acura dealer.
I've felt guilty driving around in the TSX all week- it's not that big of a car, but does one person need that much automobile?
I think not. (thanks Al Gore for making us all think about these things)
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
They already don't have potable water.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
Why would anyone want to pote it? Just drink it, for goodness sake!
elkal |
08.04.07 - 6:31 pm | #
I got a Fit it's great - and safe as well
Excellent.
Fun to drive? did you get a manual or automatic?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:32 pm | #
Why would anyone want to pote it? Just drink it, for goodness sake!
Hey, different cultures do different shit. Who am I to judge?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 6:32 pm | #
RMJ,
It has been fairly pleasant here in the Hills if you ignore the flooded and impassable roads we have had up here All the rain has really helped keep the temps down. As 4LGS said earlier it has been unusually cool.
I grew up in L.A. without A/C until I was 10 in 1970. Box fans work really well.
This Iraq war talk is harshing my NFL buzz.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Blue would be my choice too.
Why, you have excellent taste sir!
Would you like cheezburger?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:33 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only....
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillass@hill.com |
08.04.07 - 6:33 pm | #
I only drive manual but yeah it's fun as much as it can be without being a Porsche
tchange |
08.04.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Gotta go fire up the charcoal.
elkal |
08.04.07 - 6:33 pm | #
hellkitty, I keep forgetting you're in my vicinity.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:34 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillass@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:34 pm | #
Would you like cheezburger?
DUZ IT HAZ FLAVR?
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 6:34 pm | #
Paris isn't filled with assholes driving gigantic SUVs, Hummers and pickup trucks.
I grew up in L.A. without A/C until I was 10 in 1970. Box fans work really well.
therealhellkitty
I miss the attic fan of my childhood. Like sleeping under a prop plane. Once you learn to tune that noise out, you can sleep through anything.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:35 pm | #
I only drive manual but yeah it's fun as much as it can be without being a Porsche
Nice. Glad to hear it.
I drove a Civic but found it boring. The Fit just seems more fun.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:35 pm | #
4Legs, how are the darling Gurrlzz?
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 6:36 pm | #
DUZ IT HAZ FLAVR?
Oh yes.
From the jalapenos.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:36 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillas@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:36 pm | #
It has been fairly pleasant here in the Hills if you ignore the flooded and impassable roads we have had up here All the rain has really helped keep the temps down.
I do miss the Hill Country.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |
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08.04.07 - 6:36 pm | #
hellkitty, I keep forgetting you're in my vicinity.
I don't really care much as long as I get from A to B and it's small. But it even has all around airbags - that's an improvement for me
tchange |
08.04.07 - 6:37 pm | #
8 mill guaranteed. Around 1 mill per year base.
Incentives. He wants more.
That ain't much.
billy b - west coast blues |
08.04.07 - 6:37 pm | #
4Legs, how are the darling Gurrlzz?
They are great, though poor little Ripley is teething and her little mouf is a little swollen.
So funny, her adult canines are coming in but her baby canines haven't fallen out.
So she has four.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:37 pm | #
G'evening, bats.
I'm scheduled to go to a wedding reception soon, so please, give me an excuse to stall...
Zap Rowsdower, Own3r |
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08.04.07 - 6:37 pm | #
I went to the every Saturday book sale at the public library. It was entertaining to see all the 'make a million in real estate' and 'make a million in the stock market' books piled high. Even funnier was one of those cheap self-published books that those wealth hucksters sell at their 200 dollar seminars for sale for a buck.
sekmet |
08.04.07 - 6:37 pm | #
(Great place to shop, btw)
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 6:38 pm | #
Walking does more than driving to cause global warming, a leading environmentalist has calculated.
Food production is now so energy-intensive that more carbon is emitted providing a person with enough calories to walk to the shops than a car would emit over the same distance. The climate could benefit if people avoided exercise, ate less and became couch potatoes. Provided, of course, they remembered to switch off the TV rather than leaving it on standby.
The sums were done by Chris Goodall, campaigning author of How to Live a Low-Carbon Life, based on the greenhouse gases created by intensive beef production. “Driving a typical UK car for 3 miles [4.8km] adds about 0.9 kg [2lb] of CO2 to the atmosphere,” he said, a calculation based on the Government’s official fuel emission figures. “If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 6:38 pm | #
I don't really care much as long as I get from A to B and it's small. But it even has all around airbags - that's an improvement for me
That's my feeling too.
But for a little, inexpensive car, it has a little style and fun.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:39 pm | #
For those who didn't get near enough Shad! earlier...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 6:39 pm | #
Iraq's electricity grid could collapse any day because of insurgent sabotage, rising demand, fuel shortages and provincial officials who are unplugging local power stations from the national system, electricity officials said on Saturday.
The war supporters keep on thinking that Iraq is a military problem, and with their video game mentality, think that we will soon 'kill all th' bad guys' and then the bell will go off and declare Bush a winner.
The fact is that we are failing to own and operate a country of 23 million people. The war is just a part of it...
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Tacitus Voltaire |
08.04.07 - 6:40 pm | #
Can't imagine what we would do without the A/C...suffocate probably.
I would die.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
Phoenix loses power during the summer with fair regularity. Either the grid goes down for some reason or another, or somebody decides taking out a main connexion is a good idea. What do you do? Why, you do what we did in the old days. You go outside, sit under some shade and be quiet. If you're lucky and you have a pool, you sit in it. If not, and you don't have an outside, you draw yourself a nice cool bath and sit in that. If the outage goes on into the night, which it often does, and if you want to honor the history of the region, you wet down some sheets and hang them up under the porch or ramada and let the night breeze bring down the temperature. It's not the most fun thing in the world, and you're right - the primary issue is what is driven by electricity - but it's manageable. We here always refer to residents as those who came here before a/c and those afterwards. And the parts of town reflect what period they were built in. After a/c? No porches to speak of. Before a/c - big wide verandas, sleeping porches, overhangs, ramadas - and summer kitchens out in the back.
The thing about losing power in Iraq is of course analogous to losing power in Chicago. Iraqis any more have no real familiarity with how to live without a/c of some kind - any more than residents of AZ who arrived here in 1999 do. A lot of people are going to die because of it.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 6:40 pm | #
If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories.You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories,
or.. um... two pieces of fruit or a granola bar?
Jim |
08.04.07 - 6:40 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
666
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrs@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:40 pm | #
nearish to Grapeving Mkt?
Closer to central market.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:40 pm | #
“If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving
Is this a fucking joke or what?
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 6:41 pm | #
8 mill guaranteed. Around 1 mill per year base.
Incentives. He wants more.
That ain't much.
billy b - west coast blues
They are 3.5 mill apart.
1 mill on the guaranteed money 2.5 on the incentives.
Cheep Cheep. Cheep.
And they wonder why they have no rings.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 6:42 pm | #
well this isnt nice - but what has been nice in the past 7 years? Get used to it - u dont need a brain. Throw it away - fodder it to starving kids in Africa-do sth useful.
ccokz |
08.04.07 - 6:42 pm | #
Yes it is
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 6:42 pm | #
o porches to speak of. Before a/c - big wide verandas, sleeping porches, overhangs, ramadas - and summer kitchens out in the back.
the sleeping porch... what a wonderful concept....
Jim |
08.04.07 - 6:42 pm | #
The thing about losing power in Iraq is of course analogous to losing power in Chicago. Iraqis any more have no real familiarity with how to live without a/c of some kind - any more than residents of AZ who arrived here in 1999 do. A lot of people are going to die because of it.
Yes.
Got no porch or ramada here.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:42 pm | #
Another added bonus to destroying the nation's industrial base is that things like fabric is manufactured overseas and is now costly to buy because of fuel costs. I went to the local fabric store to look into buying fabrics to make a crazy quilt and was stunned at how much gingham, corduroy, and muslim is. And not the fancy stuff either. I wonder when they will go back to selling flour in flour sacks with the printed fabrics.
sekmet |
08.04.07 - 6:43 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrsc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:43 pm | #
RMJ: then there was my fifth floor window overlooking Broadway and 115th St, that was wide open from April until June.
Sleepaway camp in western Connecticut at 12 yo was my first encounter with silence and darkness. It was like being wrapped in black velvet; it was wonderful. And all those stars up there.
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 6:43 pm | #
I dunno what's happened, but now the temp is down to 99.5°F.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 6:43 pm | #
“If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving"
somebody is getting paid to do these calculations?
tchange |
08.04.07 - 6:44 pm | #
See? That beef thang is another reason to get a scooter!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 6:45 pm | #
Worth remembering that they need electricity to pump water...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 6:45 pm | #
Worth remembering that they need electricity to pump water...
Yep. I said that earlier.
And to run the water treatment plants.
They are pretty much fucked.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:46 pm | #
or four times as much as driving
I call bullshit. The gas burned is only counted towards its carbon footprint but not the carbon load to get that gas to you. Additionally, anyone on an all beef diet probably drives a SUV and isn't going to walk anywhere.
George Johnston |
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08.04.07 - 6:47 pm | #
Enjoy yourself while you can, fy.
I've been in touch with the gentleman who wrote the killfile script.
He's agreed to try to modify it especially to kill YOUR scroll trolls.
Yes, sleeping porches. I saw a picture of one of those in the magazine AMERICAN BUNGALOW. Like camping outside but without bugs. Another thing they used to have was the breeze-way. They were like open air rooms with a weather-proof roof and usually connected the house to the garage. Sitting in one of those while the rain drummed on the roof was wonderful.
sekmet |
08.04.07 - 6:48 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:48 pm | #
Either vegan bullshit or gas lobby bullshit.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 6:48 pm | #
Yes, sleeping porches. I saw a picture of one of those in the magazine AMERICAN BUNGALOW. Like camping outside but without bugs. Another thing they used to have was the breeze-way. They were like open air rooms with a weather-proof roof and usually connected the house to the garage. Sitting in one of those while the rain drummed on the roof was wonderful.
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only.....
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:49 pm | #
Worth remembering that they need electricity to pump water...
ProfWombat
If you need electricity to pump water then what you really need is an infrastructure to move the water to the pumping station. And that's the crux of the matter, and the difference between an ancient civilisation and a recent one. Now, Mesopotamia used to have some pretty darned good canals set up to move water, just as the Anasasi set them up here in AZ. I'm not sure tho that those canals still exist, or, if they do, they move enough water to supply current population centers. Generally, since the second war, such geographically sensible infrastructure apparatus were destroyed or superseded by modern systems - which were all powered electrically rather than by gravity or flow. My guess is that the ancient systems no longer are in much use - and that things like known backup wells are wildly insufficient or inaccessible.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 6:49 pm | #
Bibilomulas are travelling libraries on the backs of mules in the Venezuelan outback, now equipped with laptops and projectors.
"We want to install wireless modems under the banana plants so the villagers can use the internet," says Robert Ramirez, the co-ordinator of the university's Network of Enterprising Rural Schools.
el |
08.04.07 - 6:50 pm | #
4Legs, apparently the new script doesn't like html.
How ya, today? Hot enough for ya?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:50 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhoc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:50 pm | #
Is that green ho working my side of the street again?
Someone needs to beat his green ass.
AIPAC whore |
08.04.07 - 6:51 pm | #
My guess is that the ancient systems no longer are in much use - and that things like known backup wells are wildly insufficient or inaccessible.
Yep.
Did you see the article on CNN about the villages in India that are going solar?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:51 pm | #
“If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving"
Indeed, BEEF IS WHAT'S FOR DINNER and the only way humans can replace 180 calories. Been that way since the dawn of time.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 6:51 pm | #
Jeffraham, it's actually not that hot here. We've got the doors open and fans on but no AC.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 6:52 pm | #
MELBOURNE, Australia -- Some art experts in Australia are red-faced after a Vincent Van Gogh they said was worth $21 million was proven to be a fake
(snip)
The painting was purchased and brought to Australia by newspaper publisher Keith Murdoch in 1939.
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...((*)
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:52 pm | #
RMJ,
It has been fairly pleasant here in the Hills if you ignore the flooded and impassable roads we have had up here All the rain has really helped keep the temps down. As 4LGS said earlier it has been unusually cool.
I grew up in L.A. without A/C until I was 10 in 1970. Box fans work really well.
therealhellkitty | 08.04.07 - 6:33 pm
Helps if the house is built well.
My apartment house is 70+ years old, but crappy, absorbs heat and cold.
I have friends living in historic homes, with nice thick brick outside walls, so even w/o AC they're not as hot.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 6:52 pm | #
just to give you some idea of what uncompetitive electricity costs....I live within the area served by Pedernales Electric Cooperative. There is no other option for power suppliers here. My monthly electric bill on the "level pay plan" is $169.00 per month. This is an all electric house and there are only two of us here. A friend of mine lives in Austin...and pays about $13.00 per month for her electric.
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 6:52 pm | #
Actually, beef IS what's for dinner in mah house.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:52 pm | #
"Is that green ho working my side of the street again?
Someone needs to beat his green ass."
It's in the works!
He'll be SO fucked it woun't be funny.
Well, he won't think it's funny.
The rest of us, though...
Chris Tucker |
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08.04.07 - 6:53 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...2
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodac@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:53 pm | #
Enjoying the processed air, today! It was 101°F an hour ago.
Otherwise, I've been sleeping my ass off, all day, almost. I'm either dying, or just getting too old to go through all-day walking and standing ordeals like yesterday.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 6:53 pm | #
My monthly electric bill on the "level pay plan" is $169.00 per month. This is an all electric house and there are only two of us here. A friend of mine lives in Austin...and pays about $13.00 per month for her electric.
Okay, that's fucked up.
My bill never goes above $60, even in the summer.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:54 pm | #
Good luck Chris
Remember to vote for Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodac@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:54 pm | #
And during the dog days of summer we have a repeating troll named hill ass.
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
6666
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodamc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:55 pm | #
I think I'll vote for HIllary just to piss off the scroll trolls.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 6:55 pm | #
fourlegsrgood: My bill never goes above $60, even in the summer.
Mine was almost $80, last month, and that's with the thermo set at 82°F. I have that cheap TVA electricity, too! Then again, I have a very leaky condo.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 6:56 pm | #
We have zero choice. We are all electric. We pay about $150 in the summer, $200 in the winter, and about $80 or so in the spring and fall.
We set the thermostat fairly high too. We use the AC to put the house down to 80 in summer time. Heat it to 68 in the winter.
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 6:56 pm | #
Otherwise, I've been sleeping my ass off, all day, almost.
_____
You're not the only one. Good thing I'm off this month.
el |
08.04.07 - 6:56 pm | #
The poor lobbyists
Just nurses and teachers and Girl Scouts- according to Hill
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodamc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:57 pm | #
Yes, sleeping porches. I saw a picture of one of those in the magazine AMERICAN BUNGALOW. Like camping outside but without bugs. Another thing they used to have was the breeze-way. They were like open air rooms with a weather-proof roof and usually connected the house to the garage. Sitting in one of those while the rain drummed on the roof was wonderful.
sekmet | 08.04.07 - 6:48 pm
My grandparent's house in Indy had a breezeway and radiant heat. I loved it.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 6:57 pm | #
I think I'll vote for HIllary just to piss off the scroll trolls.
______
Ditto, anything to piss off a scroll troll.
el |
08.04.07 - 6:57 pm | #
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...666
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodamc@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:57 pm | #
Hosama, Hosama,
If I could just pronounce Hosama, I'd still have a job.
Hom Hrohah |
08.04.07 - 6:58 pm | #
yup, it sure is. The house is 1600 SF and pretty well insulated. We have an efficient A/C unit and a low consumption washer....so tell me why my water bill should be $120.00 for 3,600 gallons? Aqua TX...has the monopoly on this area.
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...1
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only........
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodamcl@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #
We didn't need air conditioning in June. Our electricity/water bill was $90. We turned it on in July, our bill was $140. We have TVA too.
mer |
08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #
My grandparent's house in Indy had a breezeway
______
Grandma's breezeway had a rocking couch in it. In the summer, the only place to be.
el |
08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #
In New Orleans, the French would build their city houses around a courtyard that usually had a fountain in the middle. They preserved one of these in the Pontalba Apartments. Three stories high, each story has an outside walkway on all sides looking down on the courtyard and large windows that can be opened. I toured it in August and the thing was cool and comfortable because of the thick walls and all that ventilation.
sekmet |
08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #
the question I've asked myself over and over the last 6 years is whether the democrats are chickenhearted idiots or just in the bag. It maybe just wishful thinking that keeps me from knowing.
rootless2 |
08.04.07 - 7:00 pm | #
Most people just ignore him. It actually gets less annoying after a hile. I just scroll down and ignore it like background noise.
trifecta |
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08.04.07 - 7:00 pm | #
"Best way? Use greasemonkey killfile, and set phasers to HEAVY ignore."
Mine was almost $80, last month, and that's with the thermo set at 82°F. I have that cheap TVA electricity, too! Then again, I have a very leaky condo.
My place is really well insulated, and replacing a few bulbs with compact flourescents has actually made a difference.
GE is making 'em now with "daylight" coating. Bought one today. I guess I'll get used to it.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 7:01 pm | #
I must go put my new big umbrella into the vegetable patch. Discovering that my theory that I can keep things growing happily if I can just keep the direct sunlight off them has made my cucumbers and melons and beans happy and productive.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 7:02 pm | #
In New Orleans, the French would build their city houses around a courtyard that usually had a fountain in the middle. They preserved one of these in the Pontalba Apartments. Three stories high, each story has an outside walkway on all sides looking down on the courtyard and large windows that can be opened. I toured it in August and the thing was cool and comfortable because of the thick walls and all that ventilation.
sekmet | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #
French Quarter architecture is largely Spanish in design.
Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.
rorschach, futon djinn |
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08.04.07 - 7:02 pm | #
4Legs, there are a fair number of cartoons dealing with cats. Cats and math are never far apart
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:03 pm | #
rorschach: Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.
How about expensive Italian ladies' shotgun houses?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 7:04 pm | #
"I just scroll down and ignore it like background noise."
--trifecta
Me too. Just an extra click of the mouse to get pass the nonesense.
mer |
08.04.07 - 7:04 pm | #
Summertime, blogging to my neighbor's insane laugh which I don't hear all winter.
Keeping cool with one window AC. We close all the rooms except the open kitchen/dining/living room. Stay up late, when it gets cool enough in the rooms to use plain old fans.
el |
08.04.07 - 7:04 pm | #
sekmet | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #
French Quarter architecture is largely Spanish in design.
Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only.....
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
hillrhodamcl@hillass.com |
08.04.07 - 7:05 pm | #
My grandparent's house in Indy had a breezeway
______
Grandma's breezeway had a rocking couch in it. In the summer, the only place to be.
el | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm
I think they started off with the rocking chairs. Then they put in the older couch and a tv. The 'old folks' would watch their tv in the sitting room and I'd watch in the breezeway. Or just sit and watch/listen to the summer storms.
And in the winter, curl up under the kitchen table and enjoy the radient heat while Grandma was cooking breakfast.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 7:05 pm | #
How about expensive Italian ladies' shotgun houses?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:04 pm | #
That lies outside my experience.
rorschach, futon djinn |
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08.04.07 - 7:05 pm | #
I may just make biscuits and gravy for dinner. It's still to hot to go outside.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 7:06 pm | #
Ah cats. I forget all winter how LONG they are. They actually triple in size, weather like this.
el |
08.04.07 - 7:06 pm | #
How about expensive Italian ladies' shotgun houses?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Often used to give elderly Republican lawyers a Cheney facial.
George Johnston |
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08.04.07 - 7:06 pm | #
Evening, rational people.
I've got Bonus Critter Blogging up, and JohnJS has really outdone himself this time.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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08.04.07 - 7:06 pm | #
4Legs, there are a fair number of cartoons dealing with cats. Cats and math are never far apart
I tried telling the green troll last night that Markos would have to have been nine to participate in the El Salvador death squads.
Like preaching to the pelicans.
Hom Hrohah |
08.04.07 - 7:07 pm | #
Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.
Mine's a derringer.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 7:07 pm | #
L.E. seems to be growing at about 5% a day. He's really in a growth spurt, right now.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:07 pm | #
4Legs, why thank you
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:08 pm | #
Summertime, blogging to my neighbor's insane laugh which I don't hear all winter.
Yup. I decided last week the worst thing about no A/C isn't the heat, it's the freakin' noise.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:08 pm | #
L.E. seems to be growing at about 5% a day. He's really in a growth spurt, right now.
Feh.
I hope he's not radioactive like Maddie.
She's the biggest fucking kitten of all time.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
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08.04.07 - 7:08 pm | #
Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.
Mine's a derringer.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:07 pm | #
Last one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.
rorschach, futon djinn |
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08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
It's a balmy monsoon afternoon here.
74F, without any need for AC, or any other kind of cooling. Since there are already some covered porches, the windows below them can also be left open for anything but the most violent rain storms.
I'm eventually going to surround the most of the house with covered porches. They reduce the heat load on the the house by shading the sun from the walls.
There's a big difference from having to insulate the effects of ambient 100F air, and having the walls reach well into the high 100s.
Doug |
08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
Last one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.
So, a pop gun?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
4Legs, don't forget to check out the Blogofractal
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
Diane C. Barking-Mad,
Publisher is sending SILENT SCREAMS to a big printer for the second printing to do a MASS printing.
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point |
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08.04.07 - 7:10 pm | #
140 degrees and they have no water in Baghdad.
The children have no water.
what can one say.
James (Jimmy) Crack Corn |
08.04.07 - 7:10 pm | #
Re: bonus critter blogging
____
the Siamese reminds me of our boat cat, the whole litter born on board and only given away to live aboard boaters.
Mr. El got our kitty (now deceased)while making a passage from Chesapeake Bay to home.
el |
08.04.07 - 7:10 pm | #
So any news from Iraq? Is Bush's spurt working?
George Johnston |
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08.04.07 - 7:11 pm | #
In some cities you need a license for a shotgun house.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:11 pm | #
Last one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.
So, a pop gun?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-Shot, Range Model Air Rifle house?
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:11 pm | #
So, a pop gun?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
Given the violence that transpired in that place, I reckon a bit more than a pop gun...
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:11 pm | #
Last one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.
rorschach, futon djinn | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
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It's not really down market if it's not mostly held up by tar-paper and some magazine pages stuck to the wall and with a couple of funeral home fans for air-conditioning.
rootless2 |
08.04.07 - 7:12 pm | #
The children have no water.
___
Maybe soon available between 2:00 and 2:20 am, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
el |
08.04.07 - 7:12 pm | #
a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-Shot, Range Model Air Rifle house?
Jim
There's a big difference from having to insulate the effects of ambient 100F air, and having the walls reach well into the high 100s.
Doug | 08.04.07 - 7:09 pm |
If I'd realized that I would be in this building for 16 years, I'd have planted a tree on the south and west sides. The south and west sides have no shade, and the heat builds up something awful.
i've put in reflective insulation in my side of the attic, goddess knows how much hotter it'd be inside without it.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 7:13 pm | #
"Publisher is sending SILENT SCREAMS to a big printer for the second printing to do a MASS printing."
--DWD
Reading that made me happy.
mer |
08.04.07 - 7:13 pm | #
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
We've killed a lot of Muslims. But I think they still outnumber us worldwide, so we have some more work to do.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
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08.04.07 - 7:13 pm | #
soon 'we' can make sure the iranian children have no water.
hey who needs a ride to church? pastor's talkin' bout' sancitification today!!!
James (Jimmy) Crack Corn |
08.04.07 - 7:14 pm | #
We've killed a lot of Muslims. But I think they still outnumber us worldwide, so we have some more work to do.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:13 pm | #
We've killed a lot of Muslims. But I think they still outnumber us worldwide, so we have some more work to do.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
We also ruined the Bill of Rights.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:15 pm | #
I lived in a camelback house which had transoms over the doors for air circulation. Also high ceilings and a front porch.
sekmet |
08.04.07 - 7:15 pm | #
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
____
who needs food, water, and electricity when they have a Constitution.
who needs food, water, and electricity when they have a Constitution.
They don't apparently have a government. But:
PURPLE FINGERS, PURPLE FINGERS!!!
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:16 pm | #
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
jawbone | 08.04.07 - 7:12 pm | #
Well, GE and Haliburton execs have made a fortune in stock options.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 7:16 pm | #
"No water. Now, possibly going from little electricity to no electricity. Less food.
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????"
--jawbone
Really. Makes me heart sick for the citizens of Iraq. Bush&co should pay a price for this.
mer |
08.04.07 - 7:16 pm | #
If I call a medium coffee grande, does that meke me an elitist?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:16 pm | #
is the long train of abuses and usurpations still going on in the real world?
i'm too far removed from reality to know what is being fed via msm to the masses.
fokowi at lake cabin hungover |
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08.04.07 - 7:16 pm | #
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
We have paid half a trillion dollars to Bush's Carlyle Group, Cheney's Halliburton and Rumsfeld's Bechtel. Oh, and Rice's Chevron is in good position to take title to the Iraqi oil fields.
George Johnston |
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08.04.07 - 7:17 pm | #
"No water. Now, possibly going from little electricity to no electricity. Less food.
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????"
--jawbone
Really. Makes me heart sick for the citizens of Iraq. Bush&co should pay a price for this.
Maybe the next National Review cruise can be up the Tigris.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 7:17 pm | #
Tiger is still a kitten sort of but he's not getting very big.
He is ferocious though. He bit me twice this morning.
*Gomez thinking about blasting holes in his apartment walls for air circulation*
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:18 pm | #
can the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 7:18 pm | #
Thanks Mer and Diane. I am kind of chuffed. I am thinking of leaving the classroom and just trying to travel to schools as a presenter on the Holocaust Forgotten and as person to introduce the art and science of writing to kids. . . .
Might be an idea. Might be a nightmare. I dunno. I really do not feel well enough to resume my job and I am not sure of my choices at this point.
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:18 pm | #
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
jawbone
accoring to Cal Thomas, Bill Kristol and much of their ilk, we're on the verge of victory. They base this on...
The O'Hanlon-Pollack article!! two well known Democrat Bush critics and war opponents. Even the liberal New York Times could see the value of their irrefutable observations, and so decided to publish them.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:19 pm | #
Tiger is still a kitten sort of but he's not getting very big.
He is ferocious though. He bit me twice this morning.
If I call a medium coffee grande, does that meke me an elitist?
No, it just means you buy overpriced brown water from a Starbucks.
George Johnston |
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08.04.07 - 7:19 pm | #
can the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?
therealhellkitty
Well, this is getting depressing. I will distract myself with some TV, and come back, later.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:19 pm | #
WE IZ WINNING!!
USA AM AHSOM!
the only way we could more winning if we set ourselfs on fire and roll around in gunpowder!
4LG, I was checking out the kitty pics and saw Maddie (?) feasting on corn on the cob.
I had an Abby who loved corn on the cob so much I couldn't leave it around. One night I forgot about some unused cobs in the kettle, covered. Found it in the morning knocked to the floor, enamel broken and cracked, water on the floor--and the gnawed on cob dragged to a drier place for munching.
I'm extremely lucky that Maddie is NOT ferocious.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:20 pm | #
can the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?
Why do you think Bush is buying land in Paraguay?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:20 pm | #
No, it just means you buy overpriced brown water from a Starbucks.
George Johnston
Have to. The Krispy Kreme went out of business.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:20 pm | #
can the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?
therealhellkitty
Don't be surprised if Reid and Pelosi decide to impeach Clinton for Bush's crimes in the name of bi-partisanship.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:20 pm | #
Congratulations, DWD. That's good news
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:21 pm | #
4LG, I was checking out the kitty pics and saw Maddie (?) feasting on corn on the cob.
Oh, that's not Maddie, though she'd eat corn if I'd let her.
That came from I Can Has Cheezburger.com
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:21 pm | #
Instead of impeaching Bush, why don't we just stop paying him?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:22 pm | #
I'd have planted a tree on the south and west sides
This winter, I'm going to finish my gray water recovery and rain collection system, and put in two cisterns to hold the resulting water.
I'm thinking I'll be able to drop the house hold water usage by half, and have a lot more water for various purposes, gardening, two stage evaporative cooling that according to some of my simple tests can even cool the house during humid weather, while not raising the humidity inside the house. (basically a water sculpture, that cools one of the cisterns during the nighttime)
(I want to plant some sub-tropical giant bamboo on the south side of the building, in the Tucson area those grow to about 100' tall if you can get enough water on them)
Doug |
08.04.07 - 7:22 pm | #
Have to. The Krispy Kreme went out of business.
Are you serious?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:22 pm | #
Oh, and Rice's Chevron is in good position to take title to the Iraqi oil fields.
George Johnston | Homepage
They may be disappointed: the Iraqi Parliament took their summer recess before passing that oil law.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:23 pm | #
Are you serious?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?
Yep. They put in a Chick-Fil-A in its place.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:23 pm | #
(I want to plant some sub-tropical giant bamboo on the south side of
the building, in the Tucson area those grow to about 100' tall if you
can get enough water on them)
Maybe we could move Bush's desk until its in the basement.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Sad isn't it how gullible consumers are to marketing messages... $2 for a medium coffee is too much but $2 for a grande is a fair price even though both are less than 12 ounces...
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Instead of impeaching Bush, why don't we just stop paying him?
That way, the problem...takes care of itself.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Why do you think Bush is buying land in Paraguay?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:20 pm | #
That's why it's important to support our troops. Once they come back and discover how their comrades died to profit boosh and cheney, they may want things, like, oh, exact latitude and longitude.
Mike |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Krispy Kremes did not do well in SoCal. Most of them are gone. Having tasted their product once, I can understand why.
Heresy!
Their glazed donuts are divine. Probably too sweet for SoCal though.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
'course, Bush might burn down the White House if we take away his stapler.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
4Legs, I think Krispy Kremes are like Sliders--you have to be raised on them to appreciate them.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:25 pm | #
I'm gonna have to ask you to go ahead and move your illegitimate administration down to Paraguay...kay? Greeeeeat.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:25 pm | #
I hate Starbucks.
It's not just about the price, I just don't like their coffee.
I like Dunkin Donuts, which we don't have here.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:25 pm | #
'course, Bush might burn down the White House if we take away his stapler.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
Or his rug.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Buckeye--is the reflective insulation the stuff mentioned in comments awhile ago? I bookmarked the mfr's site, but Google lost all my bookmarks (or I did something I had no idea about...gee, which is more likely???).
Anyway, if it is--or someone else has that info, I'd appreciate it. Thnx.
Oh, and can you imagine what Merkins would do if their overlords could not supply them with electricity and fricken' water? And with temps in only the upper 80's into 90's--not 120 degrees.
There would be blood in the streets--suburban streets outside muni offices and any water/electric company offices.
jawbone |
08.04.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Their glazed donuts are divine. Probably too sweet for SoCal though.
It really ties his wars together.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:26 pm | #
They may be disappointed: the Iraqi Parliament took their summer recess before passing that oil law.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Sad isn't it? Iraqi lawmakers stand up to Bush even though he bombs them while Reid and Pelosi just bend over for him and ask for another.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Or his rug.
Hell.
He can have his fucking rug. I'll even pay for it.
JUST GO AWAY chimpy.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
Oh, no - the size 2 dingdong is back on the Nutrisystem commercials.
She had a baby - chripes, just what we need....more dipshits like her around.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
I like Dunkin Donuts, which we don't have here.
I don't like Starbucks coffee either. Much prefer MacDonalds.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
I was thinking that it might be a regional taste thing. Crispy Cremes are a very Southern thing.
I think you're right.
I love them, but just once in a while.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
4Legs, have to agree with you on coffee. I miss Dunkie's. They got a lot of my business at the Cape
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
can't stand Starbucks...it all smells burnt to me.
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
'course, Bush might burn down the White House if we take away his stapler.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
They took his stapler off him in August, 2001.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
Didn't MacDo's make really good coffee for a while, but stopped cause their customers didn't like it?
(I can't go in there, especially in the morning. No will power. God help me I love me some egg mcmuffins)
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:27 pm | #
Not paying BushBoy won't do any good--his masters will just increase donations to his overseas secret accounts, along with a generous allowance.
jawbone |
08.04.07 - 7:28 pm | #
4Legs, have to agree with you on coffee. I miss Dunkie's.
French vanilla!!
and hellkitty, I agree, Starbucks smells and tastes burnt.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
I like Dunkin Donuts, which we don't have here.
They closed down the Dunkin Donuts in 2002 here and replaced it with the Krispy Kreme which failed.
I am currently donut shop-less.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Instead of impeaching Bush, why don't we just stop paying him?
Gomez
Wouldn't work.
He'd just ask Bar to raise his allowance.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Sad isn't it? Iraqi lawmakers stand up to Bush even though he bombs them while Reid and Pelosi just bend over for him and ask for another.
George Johnston
And I buy just the coffee - they can keep the rest of the grease filled junk.
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Oh, and can you imagine what Merkins would do if their overlords could not supply them with electricity and fricken' water? And with temps in only the upper 80's into 90's--not 120 degrees.
Wait, didn't something like that happen in New Orleans, and merkins didn't get upset? Oh right, those were brown people. And Barbara Bush welcomed them to Texas.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Sad isn't it? Iraqi lawmakers stand up to Bush even though he bombs them while Reid and Pelosi just bend over for him and ask for another.
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:26 pm | #
And that's actually a sign of hope. Once the USA becomes full-fledged facist and millions of americans dissapear into concentration camps, people might actually grow some balls.
Mike |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Krispy Kremes did not do well in SoCal. Most of them are gone. Having tasted their product once, I can understand why.
Heresy!
Their glazed donuts are divine. Probably too sweet for SoCal though.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Agreed.
But I dig Ken's Donuts down on Guadalupe above all others.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Sad isn't it how gullible consumers are to marketing messages... $2 for a medium coffee is too much but $2 for a grande is a fair price even though both are less than 12 ounces...
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:24 pm
At work you can buy the 'fancy' coffee, and pay out the wazoo, or go down to the cafeteria and pay less than a buck, and add the tasty stuff yourself.
Most people seem to go for the expensive stuff.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
I loved me some Dunkin Donuts lemon filled donuts.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Not paying BushBoy won't do any good
Are you ready for the kicker. Did you know there is a punchline?
Bush gets paid twice as much as Clinton did.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
Didn't MacDo's make really good coffee for a while, but stopped cause their customers didn't like it?
They offer Paul Newman's/Green Mountain Coffee Roasters now.
(I can't go in there, especially in the morning. No will power. God help me I love me some egg mcmuffins)
My secret sin...
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
CHICAGO -- The second YearlyKos convention is a show of strength for the new blogging establishment: A parade of Democratic politicians, and almost every presidential candidate, will troop to Chicago today to show their respect for 1,500 bloggers and activists.
And yet the influence of the liberal blogs on the Democratic presidential primary is a shadow of what it was in 2004.
Then, a united blogosphere propelled Vermont Gov. Howard Dean to prominence and struck fear into the hearts of cautious, establishment Democrats. Now, the blogosphere is divided on which candidate to support, and the two leaders -- Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) -- have ignored pressure from online activists to move left on important issues, including the speed of withdrawal from Iraq.
The change: Democratic presidential candidates have started treating the blogosphere like any other special interest. They’ve reached the conclusion that the liberal bloggers are more a community than an ideological movement, more like, say, the Armenian-American community than NARAL.
When it comes right down to it we are nothing more than special interest. We're not special.
Mary NM |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
I am currently donut shop-less.
Gomez
The cops there must be miserable.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
and hellkitty, I agree, Starbucks smells and tastes burnt.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Charbucks is teh nastiii.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
But I dig Ken's Donuts down on Guadalupe above all others.
Those are delicious too.
In case you missed it Rory, I ordered my Fit today.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
Wait, didn't something like that happen in New Orleans, and merkins didn't get upset? Oh right, those were brown people. And Barbara Bush welcomed them to Texas.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
They never shoulda lived in a city below sea level!
/Wingnut
Barbarism Begins at Home |
08.04.07 - 7:31 pm | #
I pay $1.87 for the medium coffee at Starbucks.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:31 pm | #
Bush gets paid twice as much as Clinton did.
Well, he does clear more brush than Billy ever did.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:31 pm | #
Not paying BushBoy won't do any good--his masters will just increase donations to his overseas secret accounts, along with a generous allowance.
jawbone
Who has more money, Bush or Cheney? I remember Cheney was said to be worth about 25 million at the first term, third in wealth behind Rumsfeld (40-50 mil) and Paul O'Neill (around 250m, IIRC). Now Paulson is in first (Goldman Sachs money, so at least a hundred million).
They don't worry about the eyes of needles, those folks.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:31 pm | #
be very careful. Bamboo roots can crack foundations and clog up your water system.
Well, two things will work in my favor to prevent this.
1/ the ground is pretty dry in Tucson in spite of the summer monsoon rains. If you don't do anything to capture it, the rain runs off, and goes down stream, due to the kalechi soil.
2./ the bamboo will be planted with plastic and concrete barriers in place just in case during monsoon it starts growing roots and runners quickly enough that I don't catch it right away.
I've been researching this, including talking to people in both the Phoenix and Tucson area who already have groves of this growing. (where I'll be getting starter plants from)
Doug |
08.04.07 - 7:31 pm | #
In case you missed it Rory, I ordered my Fit today.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #
NPR reported tonight that the Rethugs in the House are doing anything and everything they can to disrupt orderly business in the House--to make the Dems look bad!!
And, unless the MCM* actually reports that they will succeed. NPR did a bit toward uncloaking them, but closed with saying the House will probably go along with the Senate in caving to Bush because they don't want the Rethugs to say they're a do nothing Congress.
We need a better press corps. This one is a zombie, walking corpse.
Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key
Washington — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.
...
"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. "I don't think you can look and say that was a great success." http://www.ajc.com/news/content/...3/
newt0803.html
hadenough |
08.04.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Buckeye--is the reflective insulation the stuff mentioned in comments awhile ago? I bookmarked the mfr's site, but Google lost all my bookmarks (or I did something I had no idea about...gee, which is more likely???).
Anyway, if it is--or someone else has that info, I'd appreciate it. Thnx...
jawbone | 08.04.07 - 7:26 pm
I bought the first batch from Home Despot, but the rest from here:
I think I will open a coffee shop. Chemex with Equal Exchange Columbian brew. I can only serve four or five folks at a time, but I quarantee, you'll be back for more.
mer |
08.04.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Not paying BushBoy won't do any good--his masters will just increase donations to his overseas secret accounts, along with a generous allowance.
jawbone
He can always hit his Saudi masters up for more money.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Well, he does clear more brush than Billy ever did.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
And the press corps blows him for free.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:33 pm | #
You're special, special,
Everyone is special,
Everyone in his or her own way...
I like toddlers, but am grateful not to be required to share Barney with my kids anymore...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Their glazed donuts are divine.
As a donut afficianado from way, way back, let me just state for the record: Krispy Kremes sucked big time.
The little town of 16,000 people out in the middle of nowhere had a an absolutely divine little donut shop that would run rings around Krispy Kreme on their worst day.
Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key
I wouldn't believe anything that scuzzball had to say.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:34 pm | #
We do have doughnut shops every 20 feet in L.A. All owned by Thai or Vietnamese bakers. Who, strangely enough, make awesome doughnuts and croissants.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:34 pm | #
*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media
jawbone
or Million Corpse Media
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:35 pm | #
We do have doughnut shops every 20 feet in L.A. All owned by Thai or Vietnamese bakers. Who, strangely enough, make awesome doughnuts and croissants.
Nice.
Not that many donut places here.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:35 pm | #
ProfWombat!
the Persian food was delicious. But I'm in the mood for Laotian. Surely we can find a delicious place...
Oh, no - the size 2 dingdong is back on the Nutrisystem commercials.
She had a baby - chripes, just what we need....more dipshits like her around.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs
I prefer her to the has-been football coach with the trophy wife.
____league |
08.04.07 - 7:36 pm | #
Okay, I'm gonna go make myself a cheezburger.
BBL
K thx bai
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:36 pm | #
I prefer her to the has-been football coach with the trophy wife.
____league
Oh, Don and Mary Ann?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:36 pm | #
Roses will bloom in Goerge Bush's black heart and the Cubs will win the World Series before the United States attains energy inderpendence...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 7:36 pm | #
Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key
Yeah, but per the MSM, when a publican says it, its like the oracle on high.
When dems say this, they're wusses.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 7:37 pm | #
But I dig Ken's Donuts down on Guadalupe above all others.
Those are delicious too.
In case you missed it Rory, I ordered my Fit today.
I'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:37 pm | #
I love me some egg mcmuffins
My secret sin.
You can make yourself a lower calorie, tastier version of this at home;
English Muffins,
poached eggs cooked to the right egg yoke consistency.
some cheese, (Gouda, provolone, or whatever you prefer)
bacon slices.
Doug |
08.04.07 - 7:37 pm | #
Oh, thank you, Bucky! Thank you.
Now, you used it in the attic, right? But it can do on walls?
If I already have drywall and insulation, can't add. But in the areas where the insurance company cut out my drywall and insualtion--no problemo. Have to figure out how to do the attic--does it go right on the underside of the roofing boards?
I stopped eating donuts when I stopped smoking dope. Around mid-seventies. Too sweet for me.
mer |
08.04.07 - 7:38 pm | #
Roses will bloom in Goerge Bush's black heart and the Cubs will win the World Series before the United States attains energy inderpendence...
ProfWombat
One of these things in gonna happen this year!!!
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:38 pm | #
Roses will bloom in Goerge Bush's black heart and the Cubs will win the World Series before the United States attains energy inderpendence...
ProfWombat
ProfWombat, now that sounds beyond what angels eat
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:39 pm | #
and hellkitty, I agree, Starbucks smells and tastes burnt.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Charbucks is teh nastiii.
rorschach, futon djinn | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:30 pm |
I'm not a coffee expert. When I was in Seattle last year, I had a cup from Tulley's, since I can get a Starbucks anywhere.
They put a Starbucks in our main Community college's library. So at the grand reopening, they had free Starbucks. Other than that, I see no need to pay for it.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 7:39 pm | #
You can make yourself a lower calorie, tastier version of this at home
Where the hell's the fun in that?
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:40 pm | #
No one said they were efficient thieves.
George Johnston
Poor Fredo only clocks in at half a million. I thought he was a big time real estate lawyer before Bush put him on the Texas SSC because he didn't drink and beleeves in Jeebus.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:40 pm | #
If science can put a man on the moon why can't it make a spinach salad look and taste like a doughnut?
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:40 pm | #
I'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim
I've been stealing him blind.
Barney |
08.04.07 - 7:41 pm | #
I know that if the Cubs play anyone other than the Red Sox, I'm rooting for them. I like to imagine Steve Goodman smiling:
You can make yourself a lower calorie, tastier version of this at home
Where the hell's the fun in that?
NTodd, Special
and how do you get somebody to pass it through your car window without even gettin' off yer lazy ass?
(I am feeling so proud to be an American right now, where at least I know I'm free to get junk food at a drive up window!)
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:41 pm | #
my litle town (Pop 3,497) has a doughnut shop run by a Chinese family. It is in a location where every prior business has failed.
They cook until they are done, sell out of D-nuts and then go home. They must be doing something right.
No, but he articulates Bush's talking points better than Bush himself. All this talk about "technological updates" is a red herring. The issue boils down to: Do you trust the Executive Branch to oversee wiretapping without court supervision and authorization, or not?
I don't.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
08.04.07 - 7:43 pm | #
I've been stealing him blind.
Barney
Or is it the compromising photos of you, Bush and Santorum?
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:44 pm | #
Oh, thank you, Bucky! Thank you.
Now, you used it in the attic, right? But it can do on walls?
If I already have drywall and insulation, can't add. But in the areas where the insurance company cut out my drywall and insualtion--no problemo. Have to figure out how to do the attic--does it go right on the underside of the roofing boards?
Thanks.
jawbone | 08.04.07 - 7:37 pm
I used it in the attic, on the roof, not the floor (there's already insulation there). I've taken down the two bats of old insulation I used and put this up instead.
I'd call the manufacturer and ask questions.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.04.07 - 7:45 pm | #
Or is it the compromising photos of you, Bush and Santorum?
George Johnston
I try not to think of that.
Barney |
08.04.07 - 7:45 pm | #
my litle town (Pop 3,497) has a doughnut shop run by a Chinese family. It is in a location where every prior business has failed.
They cook until they are done, sell out of D-nuts and then go home. They must be doing something right.
The fucking Yellow Menace is stealing our donut jobs!
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:46 pm | #
well, it looks as if the scroll troool is gone. wonder if the killfile got him?
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 7:46 pm | #
What's the cross street for Ken's? They sound worth making a trip for.
therealhellkitty | 08.04.07 - 7:37 pm | #
It's right down by campus, maybe around Dean Keeton? Just south of the Burger King and such.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:46 pm | #
NTodd, what, no Dunkie's in your town?
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 7:48 pm | #
BBaH: I don't trust the executive branch at this point at all, for any reason, and view any further granting of power to the executive branch as utterly foolish...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 7:48 pm | #
The fucking Yellow Menace is stealing our donut jobs!
BBaH: I don't trust the executive branch at this point at all, for any reason, and view any further granting of power to the executive branch as utterly foolish...
ProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 7:48 pm | #
Agreed. It's just so frustrating that the dems allowed themselves to be bullied on this. Chimps approval ratings hover around 30%. Why they give him ANYTHING he wants is beyond me.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
08.04.07 - 7:51 pm | #
Oh, Don and Mary Ann?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs
Turns out that I was unfairly snarky.
Coach Shula's first wife, Dorothy Shula, fought breast cancer for six years. Just before her death in 1991, Coach Shula formed the Don Shula Foundation for the purpose of finding a cure for breast cancer
____league |
08.04.07 - 7:51 pm | #
The dems could very well be giving president ghouliani these powers.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 7:53 pm | #
I'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim |
Why, practically destitute.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:53 pm | #
From "No Child Left Behind" to tax cuts to the Patriot Act, to the Iraq War voting against Chimpie has repeatedly proven to be the sane and prudent thing to do.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:53 pm | #
I'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim |
What about Prescott's nazi money?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 7:53 pm | #
Turns out that I was unfairly snarky.
____league
Understandable mistake, since so many of these "successful" men like to dump the woman who was with them on the way up.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:54 pm | #
What about Prescott's nazi money?
Bjorn,
Bar's not done with it yet.
Actually that's a good point. I wonder if family trusts are included.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 7:54 pm | #
What about Prescott's nazi money?
Daddy Warbucks still has it.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:55 pm | #
From "No Child Left Behind" to tax cuts to the Patriot Act, to the Iraq War voting against Chimpie has repeatedly proven to be the sane and prudent thing to do.
George Johnston
Only if KKKarl does not have any compromising tapes of you or someone you care about.
____league |
08.04.07 - 7:55 pm | #
What about Prescott's nazi money?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Poppy and Bar have yet to croaky croaky.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:55 pm | #
Have nice egg roll.
Chinese Guy
GOOD egg roll is de-voon!
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 7:55 pm | #
No electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
MP |
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08.04.07 - 7:56 pm | #
If america ever discovers tofu, they will wrap it around cheap chocolate, and deep fry it with pork rinds, and sell it in a tastee freeze.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 7:57 pm | #
No electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
MP
If you can answer that question, you are REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL TIMBER.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 7:57 pm | #
Odds are the Bush family's funded the odd trust or two.
Y'know, you have ten million dollars, you can earn half a million on it yearly, easily, and spend it without touching principal. Not a small hunk of change to reward a career so rich in business achievement as W's...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 7:58 pm | #
Spinoza, yuck.
Just...yuck.
Now I need a vodka tonic to wash that image away.
Has Mrs. Spinoza ever told you how disgusting you are?
No electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
Soaring cancer rates and birth defects due to exposure to depleted uranium ammunition.
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08.04.07 - 7:58 pm | #
Poppy and Bar have yet to croaky croaky.
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 7:55 pm | #
I see Bar's disembodied head in a glass jar screaming Schnel! Schnel! in the back of a limo. In 2073.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 7:58 pm | #
No electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
MP
Well, we still haven't stolen their oil, so there's still more to come.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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08.04.07 - 7:59 pm | #
looking thru my limited collection of dvd's... have narrowed down my late night viewing to:
something's gotta give
sideways
national treasure
any suggestions? i'm incapable of making a decision.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
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08.04.07 - 7:59 pm | #
Odds are the Bush family's funded the odd trust or two.
I gather the serious money, at least pre-Carlyle Group, came from great-grandpapa Walker.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:00 pm | #
At least without electricity they don't have to watch pox news.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 8:01 pm | #
It's a balmy monsoon afternoon here.
74F, without any need for AC, or any other kind of cooling. Si
Lucky thing - it's still 101 to your north. What you all have in your favor as well is your elevation - you're at around 2000ft above sea level and we're at about oh, 2. Maybe three feet. And I'm six foot, so, call it ten feet total if I stand on the curb.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 8:01 pm | #
So the Senate vote was 60-28. That leaves a lot of votes unaccounted for.
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08.04.07 - 8:01 pm | #
At least without electricity they don't have to watch pox news.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Or American Idol
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 8:01 pm | #
Fokowi, forget it. They're trying to pretend to show a quality movie tonight.
If america ever discovers tofu, they will wrap it around cheap chocolate, and deep fry it with pork rinds, and sell it in a tastee freeze.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 08.04.07 - 7:57 pm | #
Has Mrs. Spinoza ever told you how disgusting you are?
She actually does wonders with tofu. Something about growing up in Korea I guess. I grew up in Ohio and for a long time thought spanish rice was exotic.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:02 pm | #
What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
jawbone
Why, my dear, we've destroyed the world's most ancient civilisation.
...Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, with revealing symbolism, (have cancelled) their scheduled appearances this morning at Yearly Kos because George Bush ordered them to remain in Washington in order to re-write and expand FISA -- a law which he has repeatedly refused to allow to be revised for years and which he has openly and proudly violated. Congressional Democrats know virtually nothing about how the Bush administration has been eavesdropping on our conversations because the administration refused to tell them and they passively accepted this state of affairs.
If america ever discovers tofu, they will wrap it around cheap chocolate, and deep fry it with pork rinds, and sell it in a tastee freeze.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
Shove a stick in it and slap Jimmy Dean's name on it somewhere, and I think you're onto something.
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08.04.07 - 8:03 pm | #
NTodd, what, no Dunkie's in your town?
Hah! Closes is a 25 minute drive.
NTodd, Special |
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08.04.07 - 8:03 pm | #
Hah! Closes is a 25 minute drive.
NTodd, Special | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:03 pm | #
Wicked!
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 8:03 pm | #
i'm too far removed from reality to know what is being fed via msm to the masses.
fokowi at lake cabin hungover
Lucky and wise...Has we larned not to shive a git?
under the radar |
08.04.07 - 8:05 pm | #
There's a Sci Fi flick halfway over, and one starting at 9:00 called "Bram Stoker's Way of teh Vampire"
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 8:06 pm | #
Her friends and her bosses and even the officers who arrested her say Heyward had been trying her best: working long hours and providing for her children.
I'm a single mom. A few years ago when work was really really intense, I had a nightmare, very realistic, that I'd had to go some where on assignment, and had to leave my 9 year old on her own for three days.
The pressure is really intense, if you don't have backup.
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08.04.07 - 8:07 pm | #
When I went grocery shopping earlier today, I had a sudden craving for liver and onions.
Now, as I contemplate fixing dinner, that craving has completely disappeared.
I hate when that happens.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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08.04.07 - 8:07 pm | #
...uh, oh. We're in trouble. Something's come along and burst our bubble.
There was a lovely, quirky Bill Forsyth movie called 'Comfort and Joy', that resolved its plot around the existence of fried ice cream...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 8:07 pm | #
ProfWombat, the only good fried food is Ipswich clams.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Feh. The only good fried food is my own, superlative, fried chicken. You have not lived til you've tasted it, and it's unlikely that you will, seeing as I haven't made it in ten years. There must be an occasion, you see. Maybe if Our Al announces - then....
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08.04.07 - 8:07 pm | #
for all of you Meerkat lovers I understand that there is a new season starting soon. other than the umpreengazillionth running of the Godfather, it seems to be the only thing on the tube these days
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 8:08 pm | #
Hey Atrios, why can't you get Washlet to advertise here?
Happy butts!
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 8:09 pm | #
Auntie GWPDA, when our Al announces--and I believe he will--I will rush to Phoenix and will expect your delicious fried chicken.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 8:09 pm | #
TCM: Bridge on teh River Kwai
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.04.07 - 8:09 pm | #
Diane!
I believe it's time for the secret family summer dish.... YOU KNOW THE ONE.....
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 8:09 pm | #
I'm a single mom. A few years ago when work was really really intense, I had a nightmare, very realistic, that I'd had to go some where on assignment, and had to leave my 9 year old on her own for three days.
The pressure is really intense, if you don't have backup.
Fuck. Don't tell Tom Tacredo. He will have you deported. In his view, everything in america is wonderful xcpt for things outside his fascist bubble.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:10 pm | #
I don't eat an animal's organs, and I prefer not to eat an animal who is stil kinda carcassy at meal time.
MP |
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08.04.07 - 8:10 pm | #
Y'know, you have ten million dollars, you can earn half a million on it yearly, easily, and spend it without touching principal.
You can do very well on half a mil as well. But there's a real difference between living on interest after a lifetime spent hardscrabble and living on interest after a lifetime spent as a wastrel. It's not the money - it's what was done to produce it.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 8:11 pm | #
I believe it's time for the secret family summer dish.... YOU KNOW THE ONE.....
GWPDA, Roving Historian
Nooooooooo!
OMG.
Now you've done it.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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08.04.07 - 8:11 pm | #
...don't ever do the bills drunk. There's no rational-check on your emotions.
Darryl Pearce |
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08.04.07 - 8:11 pm | #
I crave Indian food. It's times like this I wish I lived in the great big city....
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:12 pm | #
NJN public TV, metro NYC area and NJ, airing Acuna, an Irish music group. Ethereal type, but nice so far.
jawbone |
08.04.07 - 8:12 pm | #
Insurgents doesn't do justice to what goes on there. It's murders, criminals, psychopaths, sociopaths and fanatics who are ripping Iraq up.
As the car bombings started a suicider drove his carbomb under a gasoline tanker with a school bus sitting right next to it. Dozens of school kids were blown up or burned to death. It's pretty hard to top that for sheer insanity.
We in the reality community learned it would be bad but I doubt many imagined how bad.
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08.04.07 - 8:12 pm | #
GWPDA: the difference, seems to me, is moot in someone with the utter lack of self-insight and demonstrated sociopathy of our president...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 8:12 pm | #
It's not the money - it's what was done to produce it.
...and then there the borrow-and-spend scenario.
Darryl Pearce |
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08.04.07 - 8:12 pm | #
...don't ever do the bills drunk. There's no rational-check on your emotions.
Darryl Pearce
I always drink while doing the bills. And listen to Harry Shearer via the web.
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08.04.07 - 8:13 pm | #
Auntie GWPDA, when our Al announces--and I believe he will--I will rush to Phoenix and will expect your delicious fried chicken.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Bring Jameson's. And some of those nice big cheap doggie biscuits from Basha's.
.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 8:13 pm | #
Insurgents doesn't do justice to what goes on there. It's murders, criminals, psychopaths, sociopaths and fanatics who are ripping Iraq up.
Negroponte's work.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:13 pm | #
i think i'll go with sideways...
but, i'm looking forward to national treasure II when it comes out. the first one is quite clever, actually.
plus diane kruger is very hot.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
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08.04.07 - 8:14 pm | #
It's murders, criminals, psychopaths, sociopaths and fanatics who are ripping Iraq up.
GWPDA: the difference, seems to me, is moot in someone with the utter lack of self-insight and demonstrated sociopathy of our president...
ProfWombat
he's aware enough, on some level, to have needed to create a delusion of divine-right entitlement to protect himself from having to address his inadequacies.
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08.04.07 - 8:14 pm | #
GWPDA: the difference, seems to me, is moot in someone with the utter lack of self-insight and demonstrated sociopathy of our president...
ProfWombat
The difference is implicit. Shrub's sociopathy is the definition of how his ilk 'earns' its money.
Pfui. Arthur wants his dinner and I want to make sure he has it.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 8:16 pm | #
but, i'm looking forward to national treasure II when it comes out. the first one is quite clever, actually.
I have Pan's Labyrinth from Netflix, which I've never seen but I'm feeling lazy, so it may be Harold and Maude off the DVR, which I've seen a thousand times, or the Godfather, which I've a bajazillion times, which as someone said earlier is almost certainly on somewhere (and I have the DVD).
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:16 pm | #
...four million displaced Iraqi's.
Darryl Pearce
Essentially that nation's professional class made an exodus, I've heard it said.
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08.04.07 - 8:17 pm | #
Essentially that nation's professional class made an exodus, I've heard it said.
...wouldn't be the first Trail of Tears left in the wake US hegemony.
Darryl Pearce |
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08.04.07 - 8:18 pm | #
When they say "eat the rich", it's the Bushes they mean.
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 8:19 pm | #
Arthur: how about a little friendly butt sniffing and newspaper munching? And my humans left a full bag of tortilla chips where we can get 'em...
Josie Wombat |
08.04.07 - 8:19 pm | #
I have Pan's Labyrinth from Netflix, which I've never seen but I'm feeling lazy...
Save it for later, then.
Superb movie... not necessarily enjoyable to watch.
Worth it, but not when you're not prepared to engage with it fully.
I'm not too worked up about that FISA cavination. Does anybody think Bush would have abided by either the Dem version of the law, or the one they are passing? Does anybody think their international communations are free from being monitored? Hell, I assume data from my domestic communications are showing up in a govt disk drive somewhere.
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08.04.07 - 8:20 pm | #
BBaH: I don't trust the executive branch at this point at all, for any reason, and view any further granting of power to the executive branch as utterly foolish...
ProfWombat
I think it's safe to assume we've all been data-mined already, so my response is to stop volunteering ANY information to anybody for any reason, even the "demographic" folx like Time-Warner.
The older the data is, the more useless it is...
Gotta go oil up mah shredder...
under the radar |
08.04.07 - 8:21 pm | #
I crave Indian food.
That's a great idea. I think I'll go for some Tandori.
Doug |
08.04.07 - 8:21 pm | #
A couple of days ago, a teenager on long island died from carbon monoxide poisoning. his family's electricity was cut off for nonpayment, his dad borrowed a generator from work and evidently it leaked fumes. rest of the family got very sick but are apparently okay.
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08.04.07 - 8:21 pm | #
Y'know, you have ten million dollars, you can earn half a million on it yearly, easily, and spend it without touching principal.
If you're doing that (spending all of the interest you earn off the money yearly) then you're losing money to inflation.
That said, actually managing to burn through $500,000 annually (assuming you are healthy) when you have the kind of money where you're not worrying about a mortgage or car payments would be incredibly lavish spending.
Especially when the education expenses for your children are probably paid through trusts that were set up years ago.
Bas-O-Matic |
08.04.07 - 8:21 pm | #
The older the data is, the more useless it is... - radar -
good point.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
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08.04.07 - 8:22 pm | #
Does anybody think Bush would have abided by either the Dem version of the law, or the one they are passing?
Congressional imprimateur on Executive Branch hijinks means something. Or used to anyway.
MP |
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08.04.07 - 8:23 pm | #
Bas-O-Matic: my guess is that Jenna's and Barbara's educational expenses aren't a big consideration in W's financial planning...
Josie Wombat |
08.04.07 - 8:25 pm | #
That's a great idea. I think I'll go for some Tandori.
Doug |
Would you bring me some roghan josh, a tandoori chicken appetizer, three garlic naan, and some of that spinach and lentil and/or potato stuff?
I'll pay you back on Tuesday
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:25 pm | #
meanwhile, Dimocrats and their fellow-traveling trust-fund-sco-twits scold the American people schoolmarmishly:
'you should drink chlorinated/floridated tap water, me lovelies, because plastic bottles, yes PLASTIC BOTTLES, THREATEN YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND THE PLANET!"
Trademark Dave, those are great pics. It's just a good thing I'm several hundred miles away.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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08.04.07 - 8:26 pm | #
lubyanka... why are you here? seriously.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
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08.04.07 - 8:27 pm | #
Save it for later, then.
Superb movie... not necessarily enjoyable to watch.
Worth it, but not when you're not prepared to engage with it fully.
YMMV.
SteveLG | 08.04.07 - 8:19 pm | #
I found it an incredible movie to watch. Outstanding visually. But it's certainly not a popcorn flick.
Bas-O-Matic
Thanks. pretty much what I was thinking. It's definitely a popcorn flick kind of evening.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:27 pm | #
fok,
because you nutroots are, wittingly or unwittingly, very very funny!
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #
Congressional imprimateur on Executive Branch hijinks means something. Or used to anyway.
MP
Now it only means something when a Dem is president, especially when he gets a blowjob. After all, Dems don't know their place and trash the beltway village.
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08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #
'you should drink chlorinated/floridated tap water, me lovelies, because plastic bottles, yes PLASTIC BOTTLES, THREATEN YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND THE PLANET!"
why can't liberals be more earnest and humorless?
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 8:31 pm | #
Congressional imprimateur on Executive Branch hijinks means something. Or used to anyway.
I am slightly worried that Webb thinks he is living a Tom Clancy novel and voted for further presidential powers so that when he gets elected president he can pull a weapon out of his pants and shoot Osama bin Laden in front of the Lincoln Memorial after which an Ayn Rand girl offers to make him forget the pain of killing muslims.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:32 pm | #
There is bottled water that is just municipal tap water, especially from the soda giants (aquafina & dasani). The first thing Coke did when it opened a plant in India was to try to sell the local village's own water to it at a huge upmark.
the hydrated evildoers |
08.04.07 - 8:33 pm | #
lubyanka... why are you here? seriously.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated
To convince herself that she is condescending. A fate she has met many times in her life.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 8:33 pm | #
because you nutroots are, wittingly or unwittingly, very very funny!
Lubyanka | 08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #
ok. i'm cool with that. however, since empathy isn't usually a strong suit for anyone with a passion for something... why don't you try a different approach of engagement in here?
you know, like maybe make a comment that makes us think, perhaps. your MO seems to be that you just want to provoke an emotion. tell me i'm wrong.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
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08.04.07 - 8:34 pm | #
Bas-O-Matic: my guess is that Jenna's and Barbara's educational expenses aren't a big consideration in W's financial planning...
Josie Wombat | 08.04.07 - 8:25 pm | #
Trust me Barb and George senior set up a trust to pay for pre-school through college the second Jenna and not Jenna were born.
And I watched Hero on our new HD set last weekend. It really is one of the prettiest movies I've ever seen (even if it is rather thinly veiled totalitarian propoganda.)
The fight between Snow and Moon in the ginko grove is incredible.
Bas-O-Matic |
08.04.07 - 8:34 pm | #
Oh, lawzy. I just et a WHOLE bunch of pasta shells.
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08.04.07 - 8:34 pm | #
I know that if the Cubs play anyone other than the Red Sox, I'm rooting for them. I like to imagine Steve Goodman smiling:
Hey, I'm a White Sox fan, and I'm rooting for them. The Red Sox won, the White Sox won, it's the Cubbies' turn. Lou Piniella is a great coach, and if it's good for Chicago, it's OK by me.
David Derbes |
08.04.07 - 8:35 pm | #
...those are great pics. It's just a good thing I'm several hundred miles away.
Not really!
Actually, we sent one cat home with a new family today, and another was supposed to go this afternoon (after I'd left). Also several dogs, but who cares about them?
I'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim
It will take a decade to track down the billions that gang has scimmed off the war, etc, and stuffed into off shoar accounts.
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08.04.07 - 8:35 pm | #
Hecate will like this, I think.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 8:36 pm | #
JP what did you put on them?
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Gnawing on kittehs just wasn't filling enough.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Reid's "only temporary" explanation of the vote is unspeakably cowardly, IMO. You either is or you ain't for the Constitution. They ain't no "temporary" about it.
MP |
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08.04.07 - 8:36 pm | #
Q2 of the day:
can "progressives"' earnestness and humorlessness actually be an inadvertent source of funniness?
The first thing Coke did when it opened a plant in India was to try to sell the local village's own water to it at a huge upmark.
It's only a matter of time before they tax marital sex and oxygen.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:37 pm | #
therealhellkitty: JP what did you put on them?
'mater sauce, from Aldi, of course! And grated parm.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.04.07 - 8:37 pm | #
What age are we living in?
kin |
08.04.07 - 8:37 pm | #
I have a beautiful nutsac. And someday I'm going to show it to real live girl!!
[hint: Not my mother or a 'pro']
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 8:37 pm | #
[hint: absolutely!..]
Lubyanka
Again, notice the attempt at condescension.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 8:38 pm | #
lubyanka... why are you here? seriously.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated
Why are ANY trolls here?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs |
08.04.07 - 8:38 pm | #
I wonder what kind of cocktail party sell out Duncan is at tonight? Probably having rumaki and gin rickies with Joe Klein
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:39 pm | #
Bas-O: undoubtedly; that's how those sort of folks work...
Josie Wombat |
08.04.07 - 8:39 pm | #
By posting here, the trolls reveal how utterly bereft of meaning their pathetic little lives are. You might contemplate for a moment the sadness and emptiness of their existences and then you might thank whatever deity or lucky stars you have that unlike the trolls you have a fulfilling and meaningful life.
Tralfaz |
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08.04.07 - 8:39 pm | #
[hint: absolutely!..]
Lubyanka
Again, notice the attempt at condescension.
cosmic tumbler
And notice the truncated ellipse. Trademark or Brian Hardig in his liberal jeenyus manifestation. Or infestation.
NTodd, Special |
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08.04.07 - 8:39 pm | #
'mater sauce, from Aldi, of course! And grated parm.
Oh, we keep totally forgetting to do this, but the new electro-indie hotness we're addicted to is FREEZEPOP, Bostonian minimalist dance in the general ball park of Lali Puna and Ladytron. Check youtube for these excellent songs: "I Am Not Your Gameboy," "I Am A Bike [Thief]," "Super Sprode," "Tender Lies," and "Less Talk More Rokk."
the hydrated evildoers |
08.04.07 - 8:42 pm | #
And yet the influence of the liberal blogs on the Democratic presidential primary is a shadow of what it was in 2004.
Then, a united blogosphere propelled Vermont Gov. Howard Dean to prominence and struck fear into the hearts of cautious, establishment Democrats. Now, the blogosphere is divided on which candidate to support, and the two leaders -- Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) -- have ignored pressure from online activists to move left on important issues, including the speed of withdrawal from Iraq.
The change: Democratic presidential candidates have started treating the blogosphere like any other special interest. They’ve reached the conclusion that the liberal bloggers are more a community than an ideological movement, more like, say, the Armenian-American community than NARAL.
Spectacular!
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:42 pm | #
TerryC: we don't go around calling our friends by affectionate nicknames like 'Turd Blossom', for instance. Jeez. How uptight can you get? Must be the Chardonnay...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 8:42 pm | #
I guess anything that isn't mean-spirited or condescending isn't funny to conservatoids.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs
They always require an enemy (preferably powerless), and their humor always requires a recipient of vitriol (preferably powerless).
MP |
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08.04.07 - 8:42 pm | #
The change: Democratic presidential candidates have started treating the blogosphere like any other special interest. They’ve reached the conclusion that the liberal bloggers are more a community than an ideological movement, more like, say, the Armenian-American community than NARAL.
Who wrote this?
Thomas Macaulay?
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:44 pm | #
Democratic candidates are ignoring the blogosphere just like they ignore America, because their Owners are their only real special interest. That's no fault of the blogosphere, far from it.
the hydrated evildoers |
08.04.07 - 8:44 pm | #
We can only hope to be as funny as Dennis Miller.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 8:44 pm | #
The Apotheosis of Nutroot Power:
Dean after his defeat in Iowa:
"...and we're going to Poughkeepsie and we're going to Ponca City, Oklahoma, and we're going to Truth or Consequences New Mexico, and we're, going to eeeerrrooyyaaaaaarrrrrrgh..."
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 8:46 pm | #
Shrub couldn't have acted more like a confused bully who just got hit in the snout, after 9/11. Just swinging wildly around, who gives a shit who gets in my way.
MP |
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08.04.07 - 8:46 pm | #
We can only hope to be as funny as Dennis Miller.
Dennis Miller being funny is like Charles Dahmer being a food critic.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:48 pm | #
Did any trolls go to YearlyKos?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 8:48 pm | #
We can only hope to be as funny as Dennis Miller.
Bjorn,a
Nancy Pelosi's ankles are thicker than the tension on the set of I Love Lucy when Billy Crawley had lost a trifecta and Desi had just come out of Vivian Vance's dressing room with a size twelve corset stuck to his two tone sports coat.
/Delivered in a nasally sneer with a shaking head and memories of what might have been.... I hate Adam Sandler I hate him!!!
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:48 pm | #
"...and we're going to Poughkeepsie and we're going to Ponca City, Oklahoma, and we're going to Truth or Consequences New Mexico, and we're, going to eeeerrrooyyaaaaaarrrrrrgh..."
So you think he should've just given up and not try to fire up the people who worked hard for him?
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 8:49 pm | #
[more..hilarity...]
Yeah, Brian, you're a fucking barrel of laughs.
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 8:50 pm | #
lubyanka is taking the quick path of the trool.
1. insult the crowd. 2. engage in idiotic posting. 3. devolve into non sequitur. 4. flameout.
Adam Sandler is like Ellen DeGeneres without a dick.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Nancy Pelosi's ankles are close to 70 years old. Seems to me that in the universe of 70 year olds, her appearance holds up quite well...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 8:51 pm | #
Wow, Freezepop is a Keytar band. Are Keytars the new black?
BTW, so far "Less Talk More Rokk" is just OK. Nothing to write home about.
Book of Love was doing this stuff a lot better ca. 23 years ago. (and their vocalists, could, like, sing)
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 8:51 pm | #
Comment by Lubyanka blocked. [unkill][show comment]
Killfiled the wanker two days ago.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 8:52 pm | #
lubyanka...
i gave you the opportunity to show us that you actually have an original thought in your head.
that was easy.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 8:52 pm | #
Adam Sandler doesn't give me a rash..he is a rash.
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 8:52 pm | #
Billy Crawley had lost a trifecta and Desi had just come out of Vivian Vance's dressing room with a size twelve corset stuck to his two tone sports coat.
I read once where Vivian Vance and William Frawley couldn't fucking stand each other.
MP |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 8:52 pm | #
Nancy Pelosi's ankles are close to 70 years old. Seems to me that in the universe of 70 year olds, her appearance holds up quite well...
A lot of soldiers under George Bush have no ankles any more. And I have never heard of a discussion of Eisenhower's or Reagan's ankles. This kind of garbage is fucking noise where we are too distracted to recognize the signal.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 8:54 pm | #
NTodd:
Re Dean's argh speech: these were supposedly Democrats in a Democratic primary; why would they need bucking-up?
Wait, unless they were actually naive nutroots who've never known adversity...
There, that could be it..
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 8:54 pm | #
I read once where Vivian Vance and William Frawley couldn't fucking stand each other.
MP
They all hated each other. My favorite story is one day Lucy was bitching and at every body and Vivian Vance said "I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but Desi already did that today"
Jim |
08.04.07 - 8:54 pm | #
To the trolls..
We know you're a troll after your first post.
Now we just killfile you.
Go back to Little Green Penises.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 8:54 pm | #
spinoza: you're a level deeper than me, and, of course, entirely correct...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 8:56 pm | #
Lucy was a bob hope style publican.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 8:56 pm | #
TerryC: we don't go around calling our friends by affectionate nicknames like 'Turd Blossom', for instance. Jeez. How uptight can you get? Must be the Chardonnay...
ProfWombat
You said it, Crazylegs.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 8:56 pm | #
I have greasemonkey installed but how do I get the killfile to work? it was there when I first installed it but now it's gone.
therealhellkitty |
08.04.07 - 8:56 pm | #
Singing is definitely not cool, unless you're doing it ironically. Newblack is nerdy monotone talking.
the hydrated evildoers |
08.04.07 - 8:56 pm | #
Freezepop's song "Parlez vous freezepop" is basically Kraftwerk with twice the pretention and none of the atmosphere. Remind me again why I should be listening to this and not the real stuff from 30 years ago?
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:00 pm | #
Hey Deacon Blues!
I had NO opportunities to indulge my Sudoku habit while at Cape Cod.
I did, however, make a lot of grilled cheese sammiches for my nieces and nephews.
And Lubyanka sounds like some kind of pinko commie prevert name anyway.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:01 pm | #
Vodka goes good with grilled cheese sammys.
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 9:01 pm | #
FORT CAMPBELL, Kentucky (AP) -- A soldier convicted of rape and murder in an attack on an Iraqi teenager and her family was sentenced Saturday to 110 years in prison.
[snip]
He will be eligible for parole after 10 years.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:02 pm | #
Sudoku is habit forming...
ProfWombat
Oh, yes...
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:02 pm | #
Prof Wombat-
This has always been a dialogue. And I have learned enormously from your Voltaire- or Montaigne-like compressed essays. I listen with care to every post of yours I stumble upon. You wake me, not to to important issues. Most of us know what those are. You provide new ways of thinking. (If it were not so late I could find better ways to phrase this. I spent all day writing a syllabus, doing some shopping and trying to figure out how to do some experiments.)
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 9:02 pm | #
...what is this "thirty years ago" you speak of?
the hydrated evildoers |
08.04.07 - 9:03 pm | #
Ooooooh! Shallots pickled in red wine vinegar are teh pretty!
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:03 pm | #
You know what pisses me off? Some sudokus require you to guess to solve.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:04 pm | #
Auntie GWPDA, not only pretty, but delicious.
And yes, I'll bring a case of Jameson's, and a huge container of Basha's doggie biskies.
"Lubyanka" is the name of the KGB prison in central Moscow where thousands of anti-Soviet political dissidents were imprisoned and/or executed. Lubyanka is a symbol of the total power of the State over individuals, something you leftist twats crave.
Gomez, can we assume you went to public school, so you have no knowledge of the evil of "Lubyanka"?
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 9:05 pm | #
ProfWombat, don't let Spinoza fool you. He likes fart jokes as much as any 6 year old boy
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere |
08.04.07 - 9:05 pm | #
...what is this "thirty years ago" you speak of?
the hydrated evildoers
Saw this happy news on the news feed monitor in the elevator.
There's a fucking TV news monitor in the elevator?
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:06 pm | #
Arthur: how about a little friendly butt sniffing and newspaper munching? And my humans left a full bag of tortilla chips where we can get 'em...
Josie Wombat
Josie, my dear - wouldn't you really prefer some nice pate and a bit of caviare? I have the keys to the wine cabinet as well...
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:06 pm | #
spinoza: you honor me; thank you so much. Always a pleasure...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:07 pm | #
btw Lubyanka is a girls name.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:07 pm | #
Lubyanka is a symbol of the total power of the State over individuals, something you leftist twats crave.
Gomez, can we assume you went to public school, so you have no knowledge of the evil of "Lubyanka"?
Lubyanka | 08.04.07 - 9:05 pm | #
If a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:08 pm | #
For the final segment of my Freezepop review: "Super Sprøde" was OK. Kind of cute i guess. Still, I'd rather listen to Journey. Better yet, a Boston band that actually innovated: the Cars.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:08 pm | #
If a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?
Re Dean's argh speech: these were supposedly Democrats in a Democratic primary; why would they need bucking-up?
Because their guy lost, you dipshit. Jesus fucking christ, do you work hard at being an obtuse asshole or does it come naturally?
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:10 pm | #
Still, I'd rather listen to Journey.
I always carry an icepick just in case someone plays Journey. Either for the person who plays it, or for my own eardrums.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:10 pm | #
Please don't feed the trolls. Thank you.
Deacon Blues
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide....
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:10 pm | #
Oh my god look at the time! And I haven't had a martini yet! Coming right up, a pitcher of Bombay Sapphire martinis with Meyer lemon. Stirred, not shaken. brb
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:11 pm | #
Trolls can be 'girls'.
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agave |
We determined last night that Lubyanka is a young girl suffering precocious puberty. All that mixed up hormone stuff you know.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:11 pm | #
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide....
Gomez
This is the day of the expanding man...
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:12 pm | #
ror:
Play Journey--Go To Jail..or be dropped off the nearest cliff
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 9:12 pm | #
A good fart joke is not to be sneezed at.
Boy, that's a mixed metaphor...
Went to public schools in New York City right 'til college. There were at last count, only seven Nobel and five Pulitzer prizes awarded to my high school's graduates, so I guess they weren't very good...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:12 pm | #
Auntie GWPDA, not only pretty, but delicious.
And yes, I'll bring a case of Jameson's, and a huge container of Basha's doggie biskies.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
'enkew, Sallyh. Have you seen my cucumber success? Shallots are not the only thing to be pickled....
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:14 pm | #
Atrios is always so "Glass Half Empty."
No electricity in Iraq, sure.
But shitloads of opium in Afghanistan! "Spoon Half Full!"
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:14 pm | #
what is this "thirty years ago" you speak of?
the hydrated evildoers
I find myself strangely adverse to commenting tonight. Maybe it's the four martinis. Maybe it's just being stubborn. Whatever it is, good night, all you good people.
Ralphie-Myrmidon |
08.04.07 - 9:15 pm | #
...Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel...
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:15 pm | #
There were at last count, only seven Nobel and five Pulitzer prizes awarded to my high school's graduates, so I guess they weren't very good...
ProfWombat |
Oh yeah! Noam Chomsky, Doug Feith, Larry Fine (yes one of the 3 stooges) and yours truly all graduated from the same high school.
Our school motto is,
"Yeah, yeah. I'm a genius, you're a genius, we're all fucking geniuses."
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:16 pm | #
GWPDA: that's a hell of a cucumber. (I hereby demonstrate my elevated sensibility by not letting the jokes write themselves. I'm better than that.)
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:17 pm | #
My high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:18 pm | #
If you live in California's 14th, your congresswoman, Anna Eshoo, just delivered a very nice, concise explanation of why anyone who votes for this FISA compromise does so in direct contravention of the founding principles of this country.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:19 pm | #
I read somewhere that all of the members of Rush and Saga graduated from the same high school. Or was that Rush and Men Without Hats? Or maybe Triumph? Red Rider? Anyway, Rush and one of those other Canadian bands...
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:20 pm | #
lubyanka's redeeming quality is that he/she/it really does help one understand how fucking stupid the people are that we are in disagreement with regarding what the founders had in mind when they created this experiment.
oh yeah... and, proof that neanderthals actually did leave some dna in the gene pool...
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:22 pm | #
My high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.
Who the fuck cares? Who here went to the same school as Erin Grey?
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:22 pm | #
AAhhhhh...that first electric shiver of pleasure
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:23 pm | #
GWPDA: that's a hell of a cucumber. (I hereby demonstrate my elevated sensibility by not letting the jokes write themselves. I'm better than that.)
ProfWombat
Sometimes a cucumber is only a cucumber. In this case, it's an Armenian cucumber and actually does represent something. I NEVER GREW A CUCUMBER BEFORE IN THIS EFFING CLIMATE! I have modified my methodology and voila! Cucumbers, quite a lot of them. Also melons.
This means I shall be pickling until my findgers are all wrinkly. And that, inshallah, my produce will be stored, kept and shared! I'm thinking now of putting in potatoes. Maybe another peach tree. And I need to move the Anna Apple and put it into the ground as well.
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
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08.04.07 - 9:23 pm | #
lubyanka's redeeming quality is that he/she/it really does help one understand how fucking stupid the people are that we are in disagreement with regarding what the founders had in mind when they created this experiment.
Also, how someone who once read a Tom Clancy novel can convince themselves they have a deep and rare understanding of the history of the Soviet Union.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:23 pm | #
We resent that.
The Neandertals |
08.04.07 - 9:23 pm | #
oh yeah... and, proof that neanderthals actually did leave some dna in the gene pool...
After moving from New York City to suburban New Jersey, a teen (Lindsay Lohan) tries to regain her popularity by nabbing the lead in the school play. Innocuous Disney fluff. Megan Fox, Adam Garcia, Alison Pill, Glenne Headly.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 9:24 pm | #
I have modified my methodology and voila! Cucumbers, quite a lot of them. Also melons.
Cucumbers and melons. Your tranny garden is against God and Nature.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:24 pm | #
Mrs. Blues went to Burbank HS (Calif) with Tim Burton. She says he was strange.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:24 pm | #
AAhhhhh...that first electric shiver of pleasure
Deacon Blues |
You rat! Now I have to go get something. Back in a bit.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:24 pm | #
I owe my brethren a satisfying beverage.
neanderthal |
08.04.07 - 9:25 pm | #
and here lubya was saying this was a humorless room... good stuff.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:25 pm | #
My high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.
Fucky anyone named Gil
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 9:25 pm | #
My high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.
rorschach, futon djinn
I think I went to high school with the guy that went "Biddy Biddy Biddy"
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:26 pm | #
Yikes I leave and it's an all-troll thread.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:26 pm | #
On BookTV/c-span2 now -
After Words: Connie Schultz talked about her memoir ...and His Lovely Wife: A Memoir from the Woman Beside the Man, published by Random House. In her book Connie Schultz, syndicated columnist with the Cleveland Plain Dealer, discusses life on the campaign trail ...
A cup of the otherwise worthless blood of our foes, mates?
The Neandertals |
08.04.07 - 9:27 pm | #
I read somewhere that all of the members of Rush and Saga graduated from the same high school. Or was that Rush and Men Without Hats? Or maybe Triumph? Red Rider? Anyway, Rush and one of those other Canadian bands...
There's only one high school in Canada.
Seraphiel |
08.04.07 - 9:27 pm | #
Cucumbers and melons. Your tranny garden is against God and Nature.
rorschach, futon djinn
I suspect the goodness has increased ever since I brought home the Squash Head Katsina. Squash, cucumbers, melons, all the same thing.
And I really love the idea that the Major US West Coast City where our flory lives has a street maintenance department where they're game to plant squash and corn in the basins of the little urban trees. This is applied horting at its finest!
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:27 pm | #
I think I went to high school with the guy that went "Biddy Biddy Biddy"
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 9:26 pm | #
That's Twiki, and he's told me all about the... things... you did to him.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:27 pm | #
I think Jon Lovitz went to UC Irvine, as did I.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:28 pm | #
gomez: that' I think would have been Mel Blanc, and therefore most unlikely...
The Neandertals |
08.04.07 - 9:29 pm | #
There's only one high school in Canada.
Seraphiel
Frostbite Falls Central High.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:29 pm | #
Though I walk in the valley of the shadow of trolls, I fear no evil, for I have killfile.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:30 pm | #
I went to the same high school as plantsman.
For a year or so anyway.
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:30 pm | #
Only 75 more hits at my blog before I STFU and leave you alone.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:30 pm | #
Gordon Lightfoot Jr High, Toronto
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 9:30 pm | #
Who the fuck cares? Who here went to the same school as Erin Grey?
Kid in my Scout troop went on to be the assmunch in Karate Kid 3. He was pretty much an assmunch then too.
Ann Coulter on Scifi, I swear.
Mr French |
08.04.07 - 9:31 pm | #
Mary Steenburgen spent one semester at my undergrad.
Of course, one of my master's came from UA-Fayetteville, where I had wild flings with the Clintons.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:31 pm | #
the KGB prison in central Moscow where thousands of anti-Soviet political dissidents were imprisoned and/or executed
Shouldn't your handle be Gitmo?
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:32 pm | #
Ann Coulter on Scifi, I swear.
Mr French
Night of the Living Dead?
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:32 pm | #
....Nah, couldn't have been her. Someone ate her and not the other way round.
Mr French |
08.04.07 - 9:32 pm | #
That's Twiki, and he's told me all about the... things... you did to him.
rorschach, futon djinn
The two most notorious prisons in the world today are Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:33 pm | #
Someone needs to post here as Folsom County
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:35 pm | #
Lohan
Didn't she drive Herbie, fully loaded?
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:35 pm | #
Rorschach, nice blog.
Usually when I post it kills the thread.
Well, it's about time anyway.
nuncamas |
08.04.07 - 9:35 pm | #
ProfWombat, don't let Spinoza fool you. He likes fart jokes as much as any 6 year old boy
So did Montaigne.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 9:35 pm | #
Rorschach, nice blog.
Usually when I post it kills the thread.
Well, it's about time anyway.
nuncamas | 08.04.07 - 9:35 pm | #
Glad ya like it.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:36 pm | #
The two most notorious prisons in the world today are Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
And that's only because we don't know about the others Bushco has created.
Mr French |
08.04.07 - 9:36 pm | #
Shouldn't your handle be Gitmo?
See, it's a wry commentary on how liberals, as the Stalinists they are at heart, seek only to stifle dissent and imprison those who disagree politically.
It makes sense. Telling an unserious troll to go fuck himself is morally equivalent to plucking a citizen from the street, taking him out of the country to a secret prison where he is never charged with anything but car batteries to the genitals and leaving him to languish without any recourse whatsoever. Oh wait, on second thought, no, it's not.
JeffCO |
08.04.07 - 9:36 pm | #
As I have young children, I indeed saw 'Herbie Fully Loaded'. Lindsay Lohan didn't make much of an impression on me, nor did the rest of the movie...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:36 pm | #
I've been at my in-laws(1) in Iowa(2) for a week(3) with no cable(4). Take me home now, Lord. Take me home, please...
robot (on ethanol) |
08.04.07 - 9:37 pm | #
I see that train a comin.....
Folsom County |
08.04.07 - 9:38 pm | #
Tomorrow we see The Simpsons Movie. We waited because the little lefty was away at computer camp last week.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:38 pm | #
As I have young children, I indeed saw 'Herbie Fully Loaded'. Lindsay Lohan didn't make much of an impression on me,
Turns out the fully loaded was just method acting.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:38 pm | #
And that's only because we don't know about the others Bushco has created.
Mr French |
And somewhere in Poland they're having fun with those musselmen.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:39 pm | #
sun god now setting on the western shoreline. 24 hours until i'm back around the long train of abuses and usurpations.
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:39 pm | #
Iowa(2)
Hey, don't be so hard on Iowa. Any state with a gas station chain called Cum n Go can't be all bad.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:39 pm | #
You're missing some unusually crappily humid weather round here.
JeffCO
We're getting that here, too. Unusually muggy.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:40 pm | #
Light rain in Chicago for the last two hours, temps in the low 70's.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #
Hey, don't be so hard on Iowa. Any state with a gas station chain called Cum n Go can't be all bad.
Tralfaz
Are they full or self serve?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #
A new thread would be nice.
Mr French |
08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #
Is there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #
I could really use a month of October around now. Temps in the fifties and sixties, low humidity, lots of sunshine with a bit of gold in it rather than blinding white...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #
And somewhere in Poland they're having fun with those musselmen.
Pulling them from their shells?
Or perhaps the mutants, creeps, and musselmen are shaking like a leaf over in Hitsville, UK.
JeffCO |
08.04.07 - 9:42 pm | #
Is there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #
If there is, break it.
And break it naked.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:42 pm | #
That's so pre 9/11.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:45 pm | #
Went googling and came up with this:
While it's true that the digestive process does divert the circulation of the blood toward the gut and to a certain extent, away from the muscles, the fact is that an episode of drowning caused by swimming on a full stomach has never been documented. Neither the American Academy of Pediatrics nor the American Red Cross makes any specific recommendations about waiting any amount of time after eating before taking a swim. There's a theoretical possibility that one could develop a cramp while swimming with a full stomach, but a person swimming in a pool or controlled swimming area could easily exit the water if this happens. As with any exercise after eating, swimming right after a big meal might be uncomfortable, but it won't cause you to drown.
So if you see a fin sticking out of the water and hear a double bass humming...
Tom - 大肚腩
She's got sharks in her pool?
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:47 pm | #
Alcohol and night swimming: it's a winning combination!
JeffCO |
08.04.07 - 9:47 pm | #
Is there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian
Yes, there is. The No Swimming in the Dusky Warm Evening Rule.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:47 pm | #
According to Mrs. Blues, Debbie Reynolds also went to Burbank HS. Though not at the same time as Mrs. Blues.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:48 pm | #
Digesting causes more global warming that private jets.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:49 pm | #
Well, technically it's Kum and Go, but we just call it "the unfortunately named service station."
robot (on ethanol)
Ah yes, so it is. Just think, some marketing firm out there was paid to come up with that name (or maybe not...).
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:49 pm | #
I could really use a month of October around now. Temps in the fifties and sixties, low humidity, lots of sunshine with a bit of gold in it rather than blinding white...
ProfWombat
Amen. Very much ready for this awful season to end.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:49 pm | #
She's got sharks in her pool?
She might have sharks that can swim on the land. She's got fins to the left, fins to the right, and she's the only bait in town.
JeffCO |
08.04.07 - 9:50 pm | #
Digesting causes more global warming that private jets.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:49 pm | #
Methane is a far more potent global warming gas than CO2.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 9:50 pm | #
Too old for that nonsense. Besides, Arthur would worry.
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GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:43 pm | #
Alcohol and night swimming: it's a winning combination!
JeffCO
....deserves a quiet night
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:50 pm | #
NTodd: nice; the picture of the gulls on the roof under that great sky especially so...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 9:51 pm | #
Watching this FISA debate on C-span -- is there any House repuke who's not a winger?
P O'Neill |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:51 pm | #
Digesting causes more global warming that private jets.
Mother Teresa blew off so much carbon dioxide she created an ozone hole over her head than looked like a halo.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
08.04.07 - 9:51 pm | #
I has cheezeburger in paradise.
Mr French |
08.04.07 - 9:51 pm | #
Digesting causes more global warming that private jets.
The only way to save ourselves is to kill ourselves.
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:51 pm | #
She's got fins to the left, fins to the right, and she's the only bait in town.
JeffCO
But does she feel like a remora?
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:51 pm | #
Watching this FISA debate on C-span -- is there any House repuke who's not a winger?
P O'Neill |
I CAN HAZ PARADIZE?
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:52 pm | #
Prof - thanks. I found the scene rather funny, particularly since the "arena" is one in name only, and apparently only gulls attend the games...
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:52 pm | #
Watching this FISA debate on C-span -- is there any House repuke who's not a winger?
P O'Neill |
Ron Paul has a private wing off the wing, a little extreme right pin feather.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:53 pm | #
As with any exercise after eating, swimming right after a big meal might be uncomfortable, but it won't cause you to drown.
Now they fucking tell me...
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 9:53 pm | #
Ron Paul has a private wing off the wing, a little extreme right pin feather.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 9:53 pm | #
Except he doesn't want to spy on Americans, does he ?
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 9:54 pm | #
She's got sharks in her pool?
.
Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 9:47 pm
Were you expecting John Belushi in a bee costume?
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:54 pm | #
Well, technically it's Kum and Go, but we just call it "the unfortunately named service station."
robot (on ethanol)
Ah yes, so it is. Just think, some marketing firm out there was paid to come up with that name (or maybe not...).
Tralfaz
The blog is popular among a primarily older, more educated, rather female audience.
That's why I hang out here: for the chicks.
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:57 pm | #
Here, I'll whore to kill the thread.
NTodd
As if anyone could even begin to give a shit.
gullycat |
08.04.07 - 9:57 pm | #
Alcohol and night swimming: it's a winning combination!
JeffCO | 08.04.07 - 9:47 pm | #
don't give me any ideas. not now.
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:58 pm | #
(yes, I am higher than Atrios)
Dood, you gonna share?
Mr French |
08.04.07 - 9:58 pm | #
But does she feel like a remora? Deacon Blues
She's never struck me as one to feel remoras.
JeffCO |
08.04.07 - 9:58 pm | #
This blog reaches approximately 19,576 U.S. monthly uniques. The blog is popular among a primarily older, more educated, rather female audience.
The ladies like them some Atrios
Harems are usually loaded with uniques!
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 9:58 pm | #
Y'all see Webb's justification: Yesterday I supported two measures to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. These measures were considered against the backdrop of heightened concerns from our nation's intelligence community abut the threat of international terrorism. The ramifications of the two amendments before us last night were not political. Instead they related to the urgent demands of national security. I chose to heed those warnings. We now have six months to work in earnest to bring full accountability to the process.
This distinction and the threats to national security were stated clearly by Admiral McConnell as well as four of the eight Democratic members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. These members, Senators Feinstein, Mikulski, Bayh, and Bill Nelson, have extensive experience on intelligence matters and are respected champions of civil rights and liberties. They chose to give significant weight and deference to the intelligence community on FISA reform, and so did I.
There is near uniform, bipartisan agreement on the need to reform FISA to reflect modern telecommunications and information technology. We must do so in a way that safeguards basic civil and constitutional rights. But we must also remember that the terrorist threat to the nation is extremely serious. I remain fully committed to bringing accountability to this process, and to protecting the privacy rights of all Americans.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 9:59 pm | #
(yes, I am higher than Atrios)
WalterNeff, 69,876
Dude, you're bigger than Jesus now.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 9:59 pm | #
Older, educated, rather female people are among my favorites...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:00 pm | #
I still wanna know how a court that issues retroactive warrants can impede intelligence activities
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:00 pm | #
I demand you watch Focus doing their hit "Hocus Pocus" in 1973. It's freaky. The lead singer is touched. Jack Black has NOTHING on this guy.
These members, Senators Feinstein, Mikulski, Bayh, and Bill Nelson, have extensive experience on intelligence matters and are respected champions of civil rights and liberties.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 9:59 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Time to reset the Intelligence Committee seats.
and p.s. Jim, be careful when conversing with your son in Iraq, they will be listening.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:01 pm | #
Bayh's' in his second term, Nelson, I believe, in his first (?), how can they have "extensive experience" in national security matters?
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:03 pm | #
Webb's suggestion that 'The ramifications of the two amendments before us last night were not political' is laughably ingenuous. He makes noises consistent, I hope, with the capacity to regret his vote in the future...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:03 pm | #
I have Hocus Pocus by Focus on vinyl
Nancy Willing |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:04 pm | #
I have Hocus Pocus by Focus on vinyl
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:04 pm | #
Right on. I like way they play it at breakneck speed in the video.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:05 pm | #
I still wanna know how a court that issues retroactive warrants can impede intelligence activities
Jim
*
me too
Nancy Willing |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:05 pm | #
Wow, there are 430 of those stations. That adds up to a lot of Beavis and Butthead type snickers on a daily basis.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:05 pm | #
Right on. I like way they play it at breakneck speed in the video.
*
punked out focus~! very nice
Nancy Willing |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:06 pm | #
He makes noises consistent, I hope, with the capacity to regret his vote in the future...
ProfWombat |
There's some party loyalist over at Kos defending the Sixteen by claiming this is some kind of 'emergency' bill, s a stopgap until a Reasonable Bipartisan Compromise can be reached with Bush in the next Friedman.
And a self-described Anderson Repubican (John Anderson, Eisenhower/Rockefeller Republican ran as an independent in 1980, for you young people) who is pointing out that this isn't retroactive, so anything Bush did before the law was passed (and signed) is illegal and impeachable.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:07 pm | #
The site (I'm creative director - we signed yesterday) will be in the top 10,000 by Christmas after we relaunch with a redesign around Nov. 1. Very exciting - showbiz related.
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.04.07 - 10:07 pm | #
I think I'm rather female.... Certainly rather female than not. And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait, how to research, how to knit and sow, how to program a computer and swaddle a baby, prune a vine and salt an enemy's lands.
O-Kay! Off to swim under the stars!
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:07 pm | #
Older, educated, rather female people are among my favorites...
ProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 10:00 pm | #
The "rather" in "rather female" is rather perplexing.
rorschach, futon djinn |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:08 pm | #
There is near uniform, bipartisan agreement on the need to reform FISA to reflect modern telecommunications and information technology.
Yeah, because Dog knows that being able to wiretap for 72 hours before getting a warrant JUST ISN'T FAST ENOUGH in this modern era where it can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:09 pm | #
The house just voted to approve the warrantless spying bill. All hail his majesty Dick Cheney and his jester GWB.
db |
08.04.07 - 10:09 pm | #
finally...a cool breeze off the ocean...
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:09 pm | #
think I'm rather female.... Certainly rather female than not. And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait, how to research, how to knit and sow, how to program a computer and swaddle a baby, prune a vine and salt an enemy's lands.
O-Kay! Off to swim under the stars!
.
GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage
now you tell me...
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:10 pm | #
it can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.
Them tubes are tricky, I tells ya!
Hedley Lamarr |
08.04.07 - 10:10 pm | #
And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait,
Just leave that long-haired country girl alone.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 10:10 pm | #
it can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.
he lives in Alaska, and sometimes the trucks get snowed in delivering the tubes.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:11 pm | #
The 'rather' came from a description of the Eschatonian demographic quoted above...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:11 pm | #
it can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.
Sounds like the Federal gummint needs to build a bridge directly to the Senator's home.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:11 pm | #
RE: Iowa's Kum and Gos
There's also "HY-VEE" groceries(kinda gross) as well as some stores called "Menards" ("you'll find it at Menards..." is the jingle, but I think it should be "why don't you go down and check out Menards.")
robot (on ethanol) |
08.04.07 - 10:11 pm | #
I demand you watch Focus doing their hit "Hocus Pocus" in 1973. It's freaky. The lead singer is touched. Jack Black has NOTHING on this guy.
The early 70s were the last time rock gods truly walked the Earth. All we have now is a poor grade of twilight compared to those glorious times...
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:12 pm | #
so anything Bush did before the law was passed (and signed) is illegal and impeachable.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 10:07 pm
The fact that the spineless bunch could impeach for listening in on my conversations 4 years ago is supposed to make me feel okay about being deprived of my 4th Amendment rights now?
Wonder how Republicans Abroad feels about this move by their fearless leader? The Glibertarians like the InstaParrot?
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:13 pm | #
There's also "HY-VEE" groceries(kinda gross) as well as some stores called "Menards"
Anything like Ralph's Pretty Good Groceries ("if you can't get it at Ralph's you probably don't need it!")?
Hedley Lamarr |
08.04.07 - 10:13 pm | #
("you'll find it at Menards..." is the jingle, but I think it should be "why don't you go down and check out Menards.")
robot (on ethanol)
I once dressed up as the Menards guy for Halloween. My jaw was sore the entire next day from doing that smile.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:14 pm | #
On BookTV/c-span2
A Memory, a Monologue, a Rant, and a Prayer
"A Memory, A Monologue, A Rant, and A Prayer" is a collection of writings about violence against women. The pieces were originally commissioned to be performed at the "Until the Violence Stops" festival held in New York City in 2006. Several of the essays were recently performed by Eve Ensler, Jane Fonda, Val Kilmer, and Valerie Plame Wilson in this event from the New Mexico Museum of Art in Santa Fe.
The fact that the spineless bunch could impeach for listening in on my conversations 4 years ago is supposed to make me feel okay about being deprived of my 4th Amendment rights now?
I just found it interesting that a self-described (more or less former) Republican would speak optimistically about impeachment was interesting. Chez the Great Orange Satan, no less.
I hold out no hope for the Constitution being enforced.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:15 pm | #
By God, "Lovely Day" by Bill Withers is a great song.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 10:15 pm | #
And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait,
Joe Wilson, too - and Ali McGraw.
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QuentinCompson |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:17 pm | #
Oh yes. Rather female, rather than not. You people have no idea how pleasant it is to be going into the last week of one's notice of resignation to the Borg. Relaxing. No matter whatever else is involved, the idea of not having to get up at 4.10am to drive to Corporate America and pretend interest in spurious nonsense is, oh, beyond heaven.
Goodnight. Be good.
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GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:17 pm | #
And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait,
Marry me?
gullycat | 08.04.07 - 10:16 pm | #
I know a woman in Wisconsin who can drop a deer with a single shot and field dress it in less than 30 minutes.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:18 pm | #
My jaw was sore the entire next day from doing that smile.
Tralfaz
Glad you made that clear!
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:19 pm | #
It is fun, being a short timer. I was notified of being laid off about 4 months in advance, and those last months were quite enjoyable, because you just don't give a damn.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:19 pm | #
GWPDA, Roving Historian
*
cheers to you ol' gal
you sound plenty happy
Nancy Willing |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:20 pm | #
It's silly pop, but I could watch Jane Wiedlin all night.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:21 pm | #
Fuck You, McCain! It was YOUR GOP butt-buddy in Minnesota that vetoed a tax increase that would have gone to fix infrastructure.
And what the fuck did YOU DO to keep your GOP butt-buddy in Alaska from earmarking hundreds of millions for his pet projects?
"August 04,2007 | ANKENY, Iowa -- Republican John McCain said Saturday that Congress could share in the blame for the Minnesota bridge collapse because lawmakers diverted billions of dollars in transportation money from road work to pet projects.
"I think perhaps you can make the argument that part of the responsibility lies with the Congress of the United States," the Arizona senator said.
McCain said Congress spent roughly $20 billion on special-interest projects when it approved a new highway bill, signed into law by President Bush.
"We spent approximately $20 billion of that money on pork barrel, earmark projects," said McCain. "Maybe if we had done it right, maybe some of that money would have gone to inspect those bridges and other bridges around the country. Maybe the 200,000 people who cross that bridge every day would have been safer than spending $233 million of your tax dollars on a bridge in Alaska to an island with 50 people on it.""
Christ....you should have warned me....that stuff will destroy your brain.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:24 pm | #
Oooh, are we talking about businesses with questionably dirty names?
Because I have photographic evidence of a very good one ...
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:24 pm | #
So I'm back from my family reunion thingie, and the first thing I see is this mea culpa in the NYT Sunday mag from Michael Ignatieff, for supporting the Iraq war. He does seem to have gained some self awareness, but then he ruins it towards the end by attributing imaginary bad motives to the dirty hippies who were against the war all along.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:25 pm | #
Tiny! Merci bien! C'est vrai - nous sommes bien!
GWPDA, Roving Historian |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:25 pm | #
i think duncan od'ed on political passion tonight and this thread will never ever go away.
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:25 pm | #
Christ....you should have warned me....that stuff will destroy your brain.
SharedHumanity
Yeah but sometimes, music is just about the candy.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:26 pm | #
The early 70s were the last time rock gods truly walked the Earth. All we have now is a poor grade of twilight compared to those glorious times...
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:12 pm | #
Yeah but sometimes, music is just about the candy.
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:26 pm | #
I can has ?
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:27 pm | #
TinyPorcelainMouse | 08.04.07 - 10:23 pm | #
That is more than alright.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:27 pm | #
He does seem to have gained some self awareness, but then he ruins it towards the end by attributing imaginary bad motives to the dirty hippies who were against the war all along.
What were our bad motives? Not thinking brown people could become democratic (at the barrel of a gun)?
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:28 pm | #
What were our bad motives? Not thinking brown people could become democratic (at the barrel of a gun)?
NTodd, Special | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:28 pm | #
Not making them become call centers and consumers.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:29 pm | #
one of the best movies ever....
'almost famous'.
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:29 pm | #
He does seem to have gained some self awareness, but then he ruins it towards the end by attributing imaginary bad motives to the dirty hippies who were against the war all along.
Sullivan said last week that one of the reasons he supported the war was teh DFH's opposed to it were "visciously consdescending" to those who were for it.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:30 pm | #
What were our bad motives? Not thinking brown people could become democratic (at the barrel of a gun)?
NTodd, Special | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:28 pm | #
Daring to think that they have a right to not be "shocked and awed".
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:30 pm | #
'almost famous'.
fokowi at lake cabin | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:29 pm | #
"I am a golden god !"
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:30 pm | #
Sullivan said last week that one of the reasons he supported the war was teh DFH's opposed to it were "visciously consdescending" to those who were for it.
Yeah, remember how we called all the pro-war people "traitors" and stuff? We were so vicious.
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:31 pm | #
Here's the exact quote, NTodd:
We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, who best anticipated how events turned out. But many of those who correctly anticipated catastrophe did so not by exercising judgment but by indulging in ideology. They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.
Of course, no names are named. Then he goes on to say that "some people" (again unnamed) were against the war for the right reasons.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:31 pm | #
In other news, didja hear that the Everglades are (is?) out of danger?
What a relief.
/snark
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:32 pm | #
Of course, no names are named. Then he goes on to say that "some people" (again unnamed) were against the war for the right reasons.
Karin | 08.04.07 - 10:31 pm | #
And those might be that we oppose the brutal killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:33 pm | #
Of course, no names are named. Then he goes on to say that "some people" (again unnamed) were against the war for the right reasons.
Karin | 08.04.07 - 10:31 pm | #
Where's Seinfled with a "Who are these people?"
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:33 pm | #
I can has ?
Gilly Gonzylon
Yes you Can .
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:34 pm | #
Monday is the sixth anniversary of "Bin Laden determined to strike in US."
Join the PDB blogswarm. If you have a blog, that is.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:35 pm | #
The article mainly centers around issues of judgment. But for me, being against the war was always more an issue of morality than judgment. Ignatieff only has decided his judgment was wrong because the war didn't turn out well.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:35 pm | #
Barry Bonds just hit #755.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:35 pm | #
Join the PDB blogswarm. If you have a blog, that is.
Sinfonian
Christ I'm half tempted to start one just for that.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:36 pm | #
that fucking sully has been driving me crazy with his excuses for his past defensive positions on w/iraqi war/compassionate conservatism.
talk a man without a country...
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:36 pm | #
Gonna open up the Indiana National Lakeshore tomorrow morning....extended family and friends and a sand dunes Sunday brunch.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:36 pm | #
The early 70s were the last time rock gods truly walked the Earth.
Speaking of... who wants an MP3 of Norman Greenbaum's follow-up to "Spirit in the Sky" - "Canned Ham"?
Bud Selig looks nonplussed.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:37 pm | #
Yeah, remember how we called all the pro-war people "traitors" and stuff?
Ahhhhhhh ... memories. Telling them how they were objectively pro-terrorist ... describing the camps we were going to put them in ... telling Sully that in opposing us he was part of an anti-American fifth column ... Good times. Good times.
Coke to Sinfonian. Just noticed.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:40 pm | #
BONDS HIT NO. 755
Gomez
Who cares......a cheat and a bore.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:40 pm | #
PDB
Bush thought it said PBR and headed for the fridge instead of reading it.
Tralfaz |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #
Ignatieff only has decided his judgment was wrong because the war didn't turn out well.
Karin
Yup.
The war was wrong. Period.
If it had gone swimmingly, it was still wrong. The fact that it has turned into a huge clusterfuck is immaterial to the question of the morality of it.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #
The answer to the trivia question is Clay Hensley.
The question: Which pitcher gave up Barry Bonds' 755th home run?
Hensley joins Jack Billingham (Reds) in almost-historic trivia. Billingham gave up Hank Aaron's 714th, the one that tied Babe Ruth.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #
Speaking of anniversaries, today is the 50th anniversary of "American Bandstand."
The war was wrong. Period.
If it had gone swimmingly, it was still wrong. The fact that it has turned into a huge clusterfuck is immaterial to the question of the morality of it.
Deacon Blues | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #
That deserves to be repeated.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #
Coke to Sinfonian. Just noticed.
Gomez
Heh. I wondered if my comment even went through, since everyone after that has been copying yours.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #
People are holding up asterisk signs.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #
Hensley joins Jack Billingham (Reds) in almost-historic trivia.
Who CAUGHT Aaron's 755th in the bullpen?
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #
Jesus. Selig didn't even applaud.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:43 pm | #
The 15 yo is annoyed at having to read Irving Stone's 'Lust For Life' for school, because she's just finished, of all the books to just pick up and devour of a summer, 'the Brothers Karamazov', and thinks Stone the lesser writer. Well, yeah...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:43 pm | #
It's highly annoying, and I know it's one of Atrios' pet peeves also, that the people who were dead wrong about Iraq can't just admit they were wrong and leave it at that. They always have to add in some dig at the DFH's.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:43 pm | #
Adrian Beltre just hit no. 208
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.04.07 - 10:43 pm | #
Who CAUGHT Aaron's 755th in the bullpen?
bill buckner
I believe you mean Aaron's 715th ... that was Braves reliever Tom House.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:44 pm | #
Absolutely. Goodnight!
I didn't even know things like that existed.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 10:44 pm | #
Who CAUGHT Aaron's 755th in the bullpen?
bill buckner
I remember just before the US invasion of Iraq, an emotional demonstration in my usually sleepy little downtown area at the pier, jerks honking horns in their jacked-up trucks circling the block, flags waving, "God Bless America" banners...it was all sickening.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:44 pm | #
Just send me a case of Coke, Gomez.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:45 pm | #
Wants be my mousee? boyee
gullycat |
08.04.07 - 10:45 pm | #
Yes you Can .
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:34 pm | #
(CNN) -- A U.S. Army soldier has been sentenced to 110 years' confinement for participating in the rape of a 14-year-old girl and the killings of her and her family in Iraq, an Army spokeswoman said.
Many, but not enough.
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QuentinCompson |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:45 pm | #
I believe you mean Aaron's 715th...
Indeed. And you are correct, sir. House was traded to the Red Sox the following season, for my hero Roger Moret.
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
People are holding up asterisk signs.
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #
I like that.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
News is news. A record has been tied.
And Bonds is no slouch.
I saw him play his first game in person in 1986 at Three Rivers.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
Aaron's 755th was hit when he was a member of the Brewers, in July of '76. He played the rest of the season but never hit another HR, and so no one really thought the last one would be the Last One.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
We better hope that the publicans don't insist that the dems dress up like clowns or the terrists will win, because the reid and pelosi will willingly walk around in purple wigs with sticks up their ass.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
Deacon Blues | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:44 pm | #
I participated in a candlelight vigil in a downtown park about a week before the invasion.....we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
We better hope that the publicans don't insist that the dems dress up like clowns or the terrists will win, because the reid and pelosi will willingly walk around in purple wigs with sticks up their ass.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 10:47 pm | #
Just send me a case of Coke, Gomez.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate
I'm just a little slower than you.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:47 pm | #
House also played for the Rangers, as did Rogelio "Roger" Moret. Later, House was the Rangers' pitching coach.
I love that your hero is Moret.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:47 pm | #
It's interesting how desperate they are to explain away the fact that there were those who proved quite accurate in predicting disaster. For instance, some were indeed motivated by ideology. No doubt about it. That their ideology in this case allowed them to draw conclusions more consistent with fact than others' would, in some folks' minds, provoke a reconsideration of their ideology, rather than a dismissal of their (correct) view out of disrespect for its origin...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #
When George Bush is sentenced to (at least) 110 years in prison (at hard labor) for sending that soldier to Iraq in the first place, then, maybe then, I can sleep without grinding my fucking teeth. And WTF is up with the fucking Dems passing the motherfucking FISA bill? What in the fuckity fuck? Times like this, I wanna give up, I really do.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #
I participated in a candlelight vigil in a downtown park about a week before the invasion.....we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity | 08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #
There were Fox n Friends counter protesters holding up crosses as though we were the devil.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #
I participated in a candlelight vigil in a downtown park about a week before the invasion.....we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity
The country went fucking crazy. An orgy of hate. Very ugly.
Deacon Blues |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
Speaking of anniversaries, today is the 50th anniversary of "American Bandstand."
My sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
Hensley joins Jack Billingham (Reds) in almost-historic trivia. Billingham gave up Hank Aaron's 714th, the one that tied Babe Ruth
Thanks. I was wondering this. Of course, Bonds still has three or so abs left tonight, so Hensley might be another answer also.
edub |
08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
That injured skateboarder who fell 60 feet in the X Games?
He was released from the hospital today. Bruised lung and broken wrist.
Dude is lucky to be alive, as you know if you've seen the video.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
we're gonna win 'cause we're winnin' the hartz and minz of the Iraqian People!
At the U.S. Forward Operating base in Iraq, Iraqis — including interpreters — are forced to use separate latrines from U.S. troops. The sign taped to the men’s restroom reads, “US Military Contractors Civilians Only!!!!!” One soldier at the base cited Iraqi “hygiene habits” as a reason for the separation.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
ProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #
Now there you go...thinkin logical and all.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 10:50 pm | #
They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil
Hmmm... that was the impression I got from reading the pre-war White Papers from the Whoritage Foundation on Iraq.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.04.07 - 10:50 pm | #
And WTF is up with the fucking Dems passing the motherfucking FISA bill? What in the fuckity fuck? Times like this, I wanna give up, I really do.
Might not do so well in the House.
edub |
08.04.07 - 10:50 pm | #
A-Rod also hit his 500th today.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 10:50 pm | #
Bonds took 45 minutes of extra BP tonight.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:51 pm | #
Anyone have a link to a roll call for the Senatorial vote last night to felate Bush?
www.senate.gov still hasn't posted it. Chickenshit bastards.
bo |
08.04.07 - 10:51 pm | #
There were Fox n Friends counter protesters holding up crosses as though we were the devil.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #
Those assholes are "against the war" now because chimp fucked it up, not because it was wrong.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 10:51 pm | #
we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity
It was a terrible time, another chapter in the American dark ages, as this chapter in US history will be labeled by future historians.
I wonder how those people who harassed you would feel today.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 10:51 pm | #
There were Fox n Friends counter protesters holding up crosses as though we were the devil.
Gilly Gonzylon
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
A Chicago Sun Times columnist who now claims to have opposed the war did a column on a big anti-war protest, pre-invasion, and ended it with something like:
"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:51 pm | #
And WTF is up with the fucking Dems passing the motherfucking FISA bill? What in the fuckity fuck? Times like this, I wanna give up, I really do.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty
To be fair, it wasn't all the Dems. Only those who are the members of the new caucus, "Democrats For Undermining the Constitution and Kowtowing Eternally to Drunky" (that's Drunky McStagger).
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:52 pm | #
what if we held a constitutional convention II, and every left leaning/thinking person with an internet conection showed up???
kinda like yearly kos on steroids without the jet lag and hangovers.
hey... just sayin'...
fokowi at lake cabin |
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08.04.07 - 10:52 pm | #
I love that your hero is Moret...
Oh, he ruled! But my REAL hero was/is the immortal Luis Tiant, who now hangs outside of Fenway selling overpriced Cuban sandwiches most evenings. I had my picture taken with him last summer, and felt like a little kid...
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 10:52 pm | #
You all are funny. Just got back.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 10:52 pm | #
Might not do so well in the House.
I. Don't. Fucking. Care.
It's the principle of the fucking thing. Goddamned Abu Gonazales sits there and LAUGHS IN THEIR FACES while he lies, and they turn around and say, "Okay, here, have some more Unconstitutional power." What in the fuck is wrong with these people? I am severely fed the fuck up.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 10:52 pm | #
Anyone have a link to a roll call for the Senatorial vote last night to felate Bush?
www.senate.gov still hasn't posted it. Chickenshit bastards.
bo
Here are the Dems who voted for.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:53 pm | #
My sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
I've got video of Dick Clarke showing kids the Strawberry Fields video for the first time and having them comment about it. Mostly, they said "They look OLD!"
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 10:53 pm | #
"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."
Really? Where did that one come from? What source for such a statement compels us to remember it? Me, I think history offers a different lesson, and has done so over and over and over again...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:53 pm | #
"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."
Jim |
After the next terrorist attack this nation will return to those days.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 10:53 pm | #
ESPN's Erin Andrews wants me. She just doesn't know it yet.
Wow.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #
Exactly, Deacon Blues & Prof Wombat.
I think Freud would diagnose a simple case of projection. It's the pro-war crowd who were motivated by ideology and emotion.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #
"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."
Blessed are the war makers.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #
Oh, he ruled! But my REAL hero was/is the immortal Luis Tiant,
I knew it wasn't Mookie Wilson.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #
We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, who best anticipated how events turned out. But many of those who correctly anticipated catastrophe did so not by exercising judgment but by indulging in ideology. They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.
Oh, just fuck me.
NTodd, Special |
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08.04.07 - 10:54 pm | #
Really? Where did that one come from? What source for such a statement compels us to remember it? Me, I think history offers a different lesson, and has done so over and over and over again...
ProfWombat
It has a vaguely biblical ring to it doesn't it, but nothing I'm familiar with. But I've never slogged my way through the whole thing.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:55 pm | #
thinks Stone the lesser writer. Well, yeah...
My educator mom was quizzing me the other day RE favorite books from my Middle School years - all I could really remember were trashy "adult" novels of the Stone/Arthur Hailey/Irving Wallace school. Hot shit when you're 13!
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 10:56 pm | #
My sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
I've got video of Dick Clarke showing kids the Strawberry Fields video for the first time and having them comment about it. Mostly, they said "They look OLD!"
Gilly Gonzylon
My sister was on c. 1958-1959. Of course the show was black and white so the red hair bit was especially amusing.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 10:56 pm | #
Here's teh quote:
It was Edmund Burke who said the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Looking around, at the peace protesters, at how angry they are over a war that has not yet started, how much hate they have for their country, it was hard not to see them as the very agents of evil itself. The devil, when he comes, of course, will come cloaked in disguise, as a man of peace.
Could this refer to the anti-Christ claiming to be the Messiah? But that Messiah is a warrior, not a " Prince of Peace", right?
Jim |
08.04.07 - 10:57 pm | #
Tried to Google devils, masks and peace to no avail...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 10:57 pm | #
Okay, I know Bonds probably used 'roids, but I still think Selig's lack of response - he didn't even applaud - is classless.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:57 pm | #
We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of an imaginary boogeyman invented to frighten children into obedience.
melior, tapped out |
08.04.07 - 10:57 pm | #
They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong
How about the SENSELESS KILLING you get with war?
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 10:58 pm | #
I wonder how those people who harassed you would feel today.
My guess would be, same way they felt then. They're stupid, and there ain't no cure for stupid. Pulled into the parking lot at the grocery today next to a big ol' honkin' SUV with Bush/Cheney '04 stickers plastered all over it, looked at the people packing their Twinkies and Ho-Ho's and Pepsi Cola into it, shook my head and said, "Fuck you both very much."
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 10:58 pm | #
The Devil has already come. In fact, he had the battery replaced in his pacemaker just last week.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 10:59 pm | #
They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.
It was Edmund Burke who said the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
The author misunderstood Burke, and the nature of "nothing."
NTodd, Special |
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08.04.07 - 10:59 pm | #
Here's the link to Ignatieff's piece, if you want to bother, Getting Iraq Wrong
He actually starts off pretty well.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 10:59 pm | #
Okay, I know Bonds probably used 'roids, but I still think Selig's lack of response - he didn't even applaud - is classless.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate
Bonds seems to be rising to the occasion by showing the class.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:00 pm | #
Okay, I know Bonds probably used 'roids, but I still think Selig's lack of response - he didn't even applaud - is classless.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate
Selig hasn't ever had any class. Guy was a used car salesman at one point.
otoh, I would have done the same thing. Aaron had something Bonds will never have. That class thing, again.
edub |
08.04.07 - 11:00 pm | #
But that Messiah is a warrior, not a " Prince of Peace", right?
Yup, Jesus said he came with a sword. Weird guy, that hippie.
NTodd, Special |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 11:00 pm | #
They supported the invasion because they believed the president was anointed by God or because they believed dirty fucking hippies are always and in every situation wrong.
Works better this way.
melior, tapped out |
08.04.07 - 11:00 pm | #
They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong
Reading shit like that, which is a full on personal attack on, well, us, who still thinks Mike Stark was wrong to go after olielly at home?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
Bonds seems to be rising to the occasion by showing the class.
Gomez
Agreed. I think his embrace of his son at home plate was touching - reminded me of McGwire and his son in '98.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
How about the SENSELESS KILLING you get with war?
Gomez
Hey it's their fault. 'They' started it.
I recall one asshole sitting in a bar telling me America always does the right thing. I told him I never before met anyone who dropped out of school in 5th grade.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
Bonds seems to be rising to the occasion by showing the class.
Gomez
Bonds showing class??!?!?!?
Tell me you're being snarky.
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:57 pm | #
We are all a cause in the matter of our lives....the response that Bonds is receivng is richly deserved.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
The author misunderstood Burke, and the nature of "nothing."
NTodd, Special
Same guy, Neil Steinberg is his name, wrote a column after the Codpiece photo op, saying that those who criticized Bush were just stick up their ass stick in the muds who couldn't appreciate that Our Only President Just Likes To Have Fun.
He's a strange kind of guy. The heart of a FoxNews watcher, but too well-read and well-educated to make the jump. And now, as I said, claims to have always opposed the war.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
My educator mom was quizzing me the other day RE favorite books from my Middle School years - all I could really remember were trashy "adult" novels of the Stone/Arthur Hailey/Irving Wallace school. Hot shit when you're 13!
I remember finding a copy of Peyton Place at someone's house where I was babysitting. Now that was some trash!
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:02 pm | #
Yup, Jesus said he came with a sword. Weird guy, that hippie.
NTodd, Special
I'd better get out and beat my plowshares into swords.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:02 pm | #
I remember finding a copy of Peyton Place
Lady Chatterly's Lover was my find...
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:03 pm | #
Agreed. I think his embrace of his son at home plate was touching - reminded me of McGwire and his son in '98.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #
I hope he didn't squeeze too hard!
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 11:03 pm | #
Aaron had something Bonds will never have. That class thing, again.
Babe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:03 pm | #
My sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #
-I've got video of Dick Clarke showing kids the Strawberry Fields video for the first time and having them comment about it. Mostly, they said "They look OLD!" I'll see if I can find it.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 11:03 pm | #
Babe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard.
Gomez
You got a fuckin' prollem with that pal?
/falls off of chair/
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #
Jesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #
"Babe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard."
you say that like it's a bad thing.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #
suppose he was smitten by the satan kos?
fokowi at lake cabin |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 11:05 pm | #
The thing we may forget today is that Aaron broke Ruth's record while contending with death threats and lots of overt racism. After all, he was playing in the deep South and it was 1974. No way Bonds does the same thing in the same environment, with or without 'roids.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #
Tell me you're being snarky.
Deacon Blues
Bonds has been derided enough.
The guy does have terrific eye-hand coordination. And yes he's been an asshole.
But...we've all said that.
He still made it most of the way on his own.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #
Babe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard.
Gomez
You got a fuckin' prollem with that pal?
/falls off of chair/
Jim | 08.04.07 -
Here's the punchline - I'm too tired to write the setup...
"So it was Schlitz, the beer that made Mel Famie walk us."
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #
how about a new fucking thread, you fucking uncivil moonbats?
jdw |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #
Sorry, it's caturday
That was NOT a cat.
/grumble, grumble
Bought the Baby Kitty a pretty pink collar with a bell on it today. She has spent the last five hours thinking that she is her own toy.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:06 pm | #
that funkin' duncan has neglected his threads.
suppose he was smitten by the satan kos?
fokowi at lake cabin
If I was the Orangefest, I'd be drunk by now too.
melior, tapped out |
08.04.07 - 11:07 pm | #
Jesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #
If he were to be in America today, he would be vilified.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 11:07 pm | #
I remember telling my fundy training partner at the time that the war was a fuckup. I told him that Iraq was like Yugoslavia, an unnatural state held together by a strong dictator, and that Iraq naturally wants to be three different countries: one Kurd, one Sunni, one Shiite. He just couldn't hear that -- he thought removing Hussein (he gassed his own people!!) was justification enough for the invasion.
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 11:07 pm | #
Were Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 11:08 pm | #
We won't get a new thread if we don't have anyone here with keys ...
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:08 pm | #
"If I was the Orangefest, I'd be drunk by now too."
He's no Dick Cheney, but in baseball terms he's about as bad.
edub |
08.04.07 - 11:08 pm | #
OK, I admit the reason I was looking at the NYT magazine to begin with, is that the Ethicist is one of my guilty pleasures.
That and "O" magazine, which I never buy, but flip through standing in line at the checkout.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:08 pm | #
Jesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #
If he were to be in America today, he would be vilified.
SharedHumanity
Sadly, yes. I am not religious, but I do understand his point of view.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:09 pm | #
Were Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat |
"The thing we may forget today is that Aaron broke Ruth's record while contending with death threats and lots of overt racism."
I remember my grandmother having a fit that Aaron had more at bats so he shouldn't get the record. funny - cause in general she was not my racist grandparent.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:10 pm | #
Were Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat
Yep. And more irony? But for the color barrier in baseball, Hank Aaron might well have been chasing Josh Gibson's record.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:10 pm | #
I know Bonds is a hopped up jerk, but isn't that also true of Curt Schilling and (at least the hopped up part) Maguire ?
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:10 pm | #
OK, I admit the reason I was looking at the NYT magazine to begin with, is that the Ethicist is one of my guilty pleasures.
The Ann Landers of ethics. Sorry....
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:10 pm | #
Sorry, Charlie. Not even close.
He's no Dick Cheney, but in baseball terms he's about as bad.
edub
I don't know about hopped up, but Curt Schilling is a world-class jerk, no doubt about it.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #
Were Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat |
Exactly.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 11:09 pm | #
And likely, if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #
I don't give a shit what conditions Bonds is working in, or that he used 'roids, or is a total dick. He hit 755. Period.
Comparing eras is dumb. Pretending baseball or any sport was ever pure is dumber.
NTodd, Special |
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08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #
Were Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat
He's still getting some racist crap, which just proves how stupid that crowd is.
Roger Maris got all kinds of crap too, including the original asterisk, but I don't think he was one-tenth of the asshole Barry is.
edub |
08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #
Alex Rodriguez baserunning, trying to knock balls loose...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 11:11 pm | #
Jesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #
Jesus would be part of the "far left", and would never be allowed on any major news network.
He'd have his own blog, though.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:12 pm | #
I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
Wombat,
Our own hometown nine has a pretty shameful history of institutionalized racism...
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 11:12 pm | #
And likely, if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily.
SharedHumanity
See, e.g., McGwire, Mark.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:12 pm | #
"I know Bonds is a hopped up jerk, but isn't that also true of Curt Schilling and (at least the hopped up part) Maguire ?"
Maguire was juiced for sure - as were sosa and palmeiro. Shilling is a jerk, but he's usually able to threat the press well, so he gets a pass.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #
bill buckner: it continues to astonish me that David Ortiz, a big black guy with a white wife, is the toast of the town...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #
Pretending baseball or any sport was ever pure is dumber.
Ain't that the truth. The only reason they make rules for these things, I think, is to see how far they can bend them...
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #
He'd have his own blog, though.
Janeane
Yeah, but he would be all self-contradictory and speak in parables that no one would get, and he would hire four front pagers who fuck every thing up
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #
Bonds will lead off the 4th inning in a few moments. First crack at 756.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #
I don't watch baseball much. I'm from Chicago, where it's very painful to watch baseball.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:14 pm | #
I think I can hack us to a new thread:
duncan.window/es/servo300fstop/enterxprod.new.new
Did it work?
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:14 pm | #
logion
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source lo·gi·on (lō'gē-ŏn') Pronunciation Key
n. pl. lo·gi·a (-gē-ə Bible
A saying attributed to Jesus in the Gospels or in other ancient sources.
One of a collection of sayings of Jesus reputedly in circulation in the early Church, most of which are not recorded in the Gospels but which may have belonged to the source material from which the Gospels were compiled.
the 'most of which are not recorded' is the part i dig. it's part of the logic of it all. there are some things so obvious they need not be written down. the source material...
as in: 'we hold these truths to be self evident...'
tell me there's a difference...
fokowi at lake cabin |
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08.04.07 - 11:14 pm | #
"if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily."
If the Busheviks don't burn the files before they leave, at some point in the future there will be a period of Merkins opening their Stasi files and finding out how unAmerican this government has been.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.04.07 - 11:14 pm | #
Shilling is a jerk, but he's usually able to threat the press well, so he gets a pass.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #
Of course, just like Nixon. Shilling is a fucking fascist. Get over it.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:14 pm | #
Maguire was juiced for sure - as were sosa and palmeiro. Shilling is a jerk, but he's usually able to threat the press well, so he gets a pass.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Other than McGwire, the other three all played for the Orioles at one time or another. Makes me proud to be an O's fan.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:15 pm | #
If the Busheviks don't burn the files before they leave, at some point in the future there will be a period of Merkins opening their Stasi files and finding out how unAmerican this government has been.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Our own "Truth and Reconciliation Commission"?
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
Bonds is a hopped up jerk, but isn't that also true of Curt Schilling and (at least the hopped up part) McGwire?
The jerk part is definitely true for McGwire... but he could cry for the camera.
The biggest fucking asshole in the Giants' clubhouse for years was - Jeff Kent. He stabbed his teammates in the back on a regular basis and was an all-around prick. But he got along with the sportswriters, so he got a pass.
who did Bonds get his hit off of?
Nancy Willing |
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08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
I told him that Iraq was like Yugoslavia, an unnatural state held together by a strong dictator, and that Iraq naturally wants to be three different countries: one Kurd, one Sunni, one Shiite.
See, I don't think that. I think countries based on ethnic or religious identity are a step backwards. I was against it because I believe being the ones to start a war puts you in the wrong from the get go, & it's human nature that people don't want to be invaded by outsiders.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
"if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily."
You're right. The MSM loved Maguire, who was hopped up on steroids as well. After his "historic" home run season, I don't think he ever played a full season after that.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
Coke me, Uncle Blodge.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
Baseball is all about cheating.
Spitballs, stealing signs. No biggie.
Gomez
Yeah, totally equivalent to 'roids. Just ask the Tour de France and their laissez faire attitude to such activities.
That's why McGwire was a first time HOF inductee, right?
edub |
08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
Dick Cheney's going to burn everything.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
What really gets me is that I'm far from convinced the Cleavage can win this thing.
Imagine all these unitary executive powers in the hands of the kerik administration.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
08.04.07 - 11:16 pm | #
BTW, Ty Cobb was a prick for the ages.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:17 pm | #
Some titles I'm thinking about using for a poem/film or both....
Tears Wanted....
Where Are Your Tears Tonight?
May all your tears flow with joy...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:17 pm | #
I'm from Chicago, where it's very painful to watch baseball.
Most beautiful ballpark in America. Period. And, no I don't mean Comiskey...
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 11:17 pm | #
who did Bonds get his hit off of?
Nancy Willing
San Diego's Clay Hensley.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:17 pm | #
Baseball is all about cheating.
No Little League is all about cheating. Grow up.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #
Honestly, I don't care who's juiced or not. Performance drugs like recreatioal drugs will always be there. You might as well leagalize both. The playing field (so to speak) will be level.
dmark |
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08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #
"Roger Maris got all kinds of crap too, including the original asterisk, but I don't think he was one-tenth of the asshole Barry is."
Maris was lousy with the sportwriters. that's why he was portrayed as a jerk - supposedly in real life he was a good old fashioned family man.
the commissioner of baseball who laid the asterisk on Maris was Ford Frick - who had been the writer who worked on babe Ruth's autobiography. I'd call that a conflict of interest.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #
The biggest fucking asshole in the Giants' clubhouse for years was - Jeff Kent.
His pron stash was teh hit though.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #
Who gots keys to this thangee and whatevrs?
gullycat |
08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #
There were so many reasons to be against this war--strategic, Constitutional, moral, situational (ie, it was clear by the spring of '02 that Bush could fuck up a one car funeral) --I couldn't tell you even today what my first objection was. Every one was first among equals
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:18 pm | #
The Ann Landers of ethics. Sorry....
I know, I just can't help myself.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #
bill buckner | 08.04.07 - 11:17 pm | #
Ain't arguing with that. Wrigley Field is beautiful, a real ambience than modern ballparks can only hint at. I like it at night...
If only the team was better...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #
That's why McGwire was a first time HOF inductee, right?
edub
McGwire will get in the HOF. So will Bonds. Bonds on the first try. He earned it before he roided up.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #
Mmmmm ... Erin Andrews.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #
...I was against it because I believe being the ones to start a war puts you in the wrong from the get go, & it's human nature that people don't want to be invaded by outsiders.
Karin
I agree with you there. My fear was that we would unleash and get caught in the midst of ethnic/religious/sectarian violence in the aftermath of the invasion.
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #
No Little League is all about cheating. Grow up.
cosmic tumbler
Gaylord Perry was no Little Leaguer.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:21 pm | #
If only the team was better...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Madame, are talking about the team that is currently (almost) in first place in their division and is GOING ALL THE FUCKING WAY THIS TIME BAY-BEEEEEEE
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:21 pm | #
They have been known to disappoint from time to time....
Janeane T
With that kind of attitude, the Great Pumpkin will never come.
The Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:23 pm | #
When using the words "dagger" and "Ann Coulter" in the same sentence, I would prefer to include the words "plunge" and "heart" as well.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:23 pm | #
If only the team was better...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #
Half game out of first and beat the Mets today.
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 11:23 pm | #
Speaking of pricks, I like this:
"We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.
"are talking about the team that is currently (almost) in first place in their division and is GOING ALL THE FUCKING WAY THIS TIME BAY-BEEEEEEE"
you did it now. you never say - "boy are the doing well". I said that about my Phillies and the injuries just started happening.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:24 pm | #
When using the words "dagger" and "Ann Coulter" in the same sentence, I would prefer to include the words "plunge" and "heart" as well.
Sinfonian,
I'm not sure of the science, but I think you need a wooden stake dipped in holy water.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:24 pm | #
Is it going to have a little dagger by it in those lists like Ann Coulter's books?
The Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Jim
Now, that is very funny.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:25 pm | #
Don't count the Brewers out. After their dugout dust-up they came back to win. And won again tonight.
dmark |
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08.04.07 - 11:25 pm | #
The last legal spitball was thrown by Burleigh Grimes of the Brooklyn Dodgers. I don't remember the years exactly, but when the spitball was outlawed, all pitchers currently throwing it were grandfathered in and allowed to continue. Grimes had the longest career of any spitball pitcher thereafter.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:25 pm | #
who threw the last legal spitball in the major leagues? Burleigh Grimes
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
"We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.
You fucking lame-assed dorkwad.
NTodd, Special |
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08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
The Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Eamus catuli, bro...
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
I agree with you there. My fear was that we would unleash and get caught in the midst of ethnic/religious/sectarian violence in the aftermath of the invasion.
Deacon Blues
I recall as a teen during high school (60s) talking to a fellow who was a German soldier in occupied France during WWII. He told me a story of how a close friend of his was ambushed and killed by some French. HE was angry at the French because his friend was such a nice guy.
When the Iraq War was started I used to wonder how many US soldiers would suffer the same fate. About 75% of the nearly 4,000 dead so far.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
you did it now. you never say - "boy are the doing well". I said that about my Phillies and the injuries just started happening.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
I now want to with draw my "Fuck You" of two nights ago.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
McGwire will get in the HOF. So will Bonds. Bonds on the first try. He earned it before he roided up.
Gomez
Pete Rose, bitches!!!!
Hank never took steroids. Neither did Ruth. If Bonds did, let him admit it. All in the open. Once and for all.
Then we can see about HOF.
edub |
08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
Nice work, Blodge.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:26 pm | #
Piniella kicking his hat may have voided the Billy Goat Curse.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:27 pm | #
If the Cubs win it all, I'll be very happy. But being a Cub fan is similar to constant heartbreak and sadness in a love life, a "prisoner of pain", so to speak.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:27 pm | #
"We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.
Fer Chrissake. They were unable to stop it? Chimpy's will was too strong for them to resist? Darth Cheney has incriminating photos of them in his safe?
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:27 pm | #
But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.
As previously noted, fuck those fucking fuckers.
You know, last night, I took a considerable amount of shit for saying that Mike Stark was wrong to confront Billo at his home. I am seriously beginning to rethink my position.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #
If Bonds did, let him admit it.
Hey, I got a better idea - let's see MLB come up with a dirty test.
The Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Jim
Now, that is very funny.
cosmic tumbler
Weird article in my daily about a 900 page biography of Steve Goodman. Love that guy, glad he's getting the press. Died at 36 of cancer I hear tell.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #
"I now want to with draw my "Fuck You" of two nights ago."
don't remember that. if you wanna, by all means do.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #
ESPN's Erin Andrews wants me. She just doesn't know it yet.
Wow.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate
Those boobs may have been created with steroids.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #
Fer Chrissake. They were unable to stop it? Chimpy's will was too strong for them to resist? Darth Cheney has incriminating photos of them in his safe?
Karin | 08.04.07 - 11:27 pm | #
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The Force of the Dark Side is strong.
dmark |
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08.04.07 - 11:29 pm | #
BTW, why do I keep hearing Steny Fucking Hoyer? Where the FUCK is Pelosi?
Goodman died in 1984, and was life long Cub fan. They were in the playoffs that year (first time in 39 years), and wanted them to win the World Series before he died, if I remember rightly.
Sadly, Mr. Goodman was disappointed...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:29 pm | #
HE was angry at the French because his friend was such a nice guy.
And now we have twenty year olds saying they want to stay in Iraq to avenge their buddies, and this is treated as an important argument in foreign policy debates by our elected representatives.
thoughts like that make it hard to stick to the iced green tea.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #
The Phils lose on the road so they don't have to lose at home.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #
Okay. Time to head out. Nytol!
Deacon Blues |
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08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #
Those boobs may have been created with steroids.
Gomez
I'll volunteer to conduct the test.
She is SMOKIN' hot. Sorry. Just stating facts. Wow.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:31 pm | #
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:31 pm | #
Cold showers for you, young man...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:31 pm | #
Weird article in my daily about a 900 page biography of Steve Goodman. Love that guy, glad he's getting the press. Died at 36 of cancer I hear tell.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #
A class act and a Cub fan....
SharedHumanity |
08.04.07 - 11:31 pm | #
The Phils lose on the road so they don't have to lose at home.
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Agent Orange
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:32 pm | #
thoughts like that make it hard to stick to the iced green tea.
Jim |
I remember just shaking my head when the German soldier told me the story. Thinking like wtf did you expect?
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:32 pm | #
MOtherfuckers
House Approves Wiretap Bill
Sunday August 5, 2007 3:31 AM
By CHARLES BABINGTON
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - The House handed President Bush a victory Saturday, voting to expand the government's abilities to eavesdrop without warrants on foreign suspects whose communications pass through the United States.
The 227-183 vote, which followed the Senate's approval Friday, sends the bill to Bush for his signature. He had urged Congress to approve it, saying Saturday, ``Protecting America is our most solemn obligation.''
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:32 pm | #
But being a Cub fan is similar to constant heartbreak and sadness in a love life...
But then someday they will suprise you. See Red Sox -2004 - a feat that I was sure that I'd never live long enough to see...
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 11:32 pm | #
Goodman was being treated for leukemia during a good part of his career. His songs have not the slightest shred of maudlin self-pity to them...
ProfWombat |
08.04.07 - 11:33 pm | #
And now we have twenty year olds saying they want to stay in Iraq to avenge their buddies, and this is treated as an important argument in foreign policy debates by our elected representatives.
thoughts like that make it hard to stick to the iced green tea.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #
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Ther is no worse source of information about what should be policy than the man (or woman) on the ground. Just ask anyone who's been there. There is a reason they say they are like mushrooms.
dmark |
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08.04.07 - 11:33 pm | #
Trivia: who threw the last legal spitball in the major leagues?
Ingemar Johansson? I'm sports-challenged, but my brother won a game of trivial pursuit with that answer once, so I like to use it.
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:33 pm | #
I don't mean to harsh anyone's buzz, but George Will is a Cubs fan.
If they win, he's happy.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:34 pm | #
House Approves Wiretap Bill
Sons of bitches. My liver will never survive this.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:34 pm | #
bill buckner | 08.04.07 - 11:32 pm | #
Hope so on the Cubs (and a lot of other things too)...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:34 pm | #
House Approves Wiretap Bill
Sons of bitches. My liver will never survive this.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty
Relax. It's a hoax.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:35 pm | #
do me a favor??? should duncan ever come back to the blue lagoon and start a new thread... let me know.
i need to go out on the deck and do some thinking and drinking.
again.
fokowi at lake cabin |
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08.04.07 - 11:35 pm | #
I don't mean to harsh anyone's buzz, but George Will is a Cubs fan.
If they win, he's happy.
Gomez |
Broken clocks and all.... Zell Miller and I both named our yellow labs after Gus MacRae in Lonesome Dove.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:35 pm | #
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 11:34 pm | #
If the Cubs win, will Will become a liberal?
Who the fuck wants to be a Republican today anyway?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:35 pm | #
House Approves Wiretap Bill
Sons of bitches. My liver will never survive this.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty
Well, it all comes down to that, does it not? We, are not represented.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:35 pm | #
His songs have not the slightest shred of maudlin self-pity to them...
ProfWombat
If Thers shows up and starts a new thread I've got a real good heart healthy bacon link for him.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:37 pm | #
"But then someday they will suprise you."
well as a phils fan I got 1980. and 1993, they didn't win but they were fun.
and schmidt and carlton and Garry maddox (the ocean covers 2/3 of the worlds surface. Garry Maddox covers the rest) and tug and pete rose and now ryan howard and chase utley.
but mostly - it's like tonight. 3 home runs but a 2 run homer by the other guys and a 6-5 loss dammit.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:38 pm | #
but George Will is a Cubs fan.
Thought he was an Orioles fan? (It's not their fault...)
bill buckner |
08.04.07 - 11:38 pm | #
I thought it was a hoax. I really did. Timeline was 3:00 am on there.
Fuck. It's called the "Protect America Act"
God I truly hate these mother fuckers. To be heard during Election 2008, "My opponenet voted against the Protect America Act".
This nation is doomed.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:42 pm | #
Well, let's hope they wiretap the Senate. LOL.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 11:43 pm | #
Here's the House roll call on FISA. 41 Dems voted yea.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:39 pm | #
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Atleast my Rep, Tammy Baldwin, sticks to her guns. Anyone whose Rep voted for this travesty needs to contact them immediately.
dmark |
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08.04.07 - 11:43 pm | #
If Thers shows up and starts a new thread I've got a real good heart healthy bacon link for him.
If Thers shows up and starts a new thread, I will personally go to his house and cook him all the bacon he can eat.
Sweet mother of god, I am weeping for my country. Seriously. After the '04 election, my SO and I talked seriously of moving to Greece, where he is from. I'm thinking it's time to revisit that conversation. If the Dems won't stand up to a President with a 30% (if that) approval rating in the midst of a clusterfuck of a war of his own making, if they can't see that he's used the Constitution to wipe his scrawny white ass every day for the last 7 years, despite the veritable SCREAMING of the public for them to stand the fuck up, then I don't know how the Republic can stand. I honestly don't.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:43 pm | #
"Funny."
thank you - but I won't quit my day job just yet.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:44 pm | #
I see Herseth on that House Yea list. Wasn't she one of the Act Blue
candidates?
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:44 pm | #
Don't forget the memorial day support for the "Surge" that the dems proudly voted for as well. I won't.
Gilly Gonzylon |
08.04.07 - 11:45 pm | #
The 'Protect America Act'. I don't know if they're more like Nazis or like children.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:45 pm | #
Sweet mother of god, I am weeping for my country. Seriously. After the '04 election, my SO and I talked seriously of moving to Greece, where he is from.
My SO and I found a place also. Evey day it seems more like a reality.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:45 pm | #
Evening all.
Is this an alarmingly long thread or is it just me?
steve simels |
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08.04.07 - 11:46 pm | #
I am proud to say that my Representative, Mike Capuano, DID NOT VOTE YEA on the FISA bill!
Chris Tucker |
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08.04.07 - 11:46 pm | #
The 'Protect America Act'. I don't know if they're more like Nazis or like children.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 11:45 pm | #
Yeah, Herseth was Act Blue. And I had a crush on her, too. Thing is, though, being a D in South Dakota is different than being a D in, say, Massachusetts.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate |
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08.04.07 - 11:46 pm | #
nobody's got the keys, steve
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:47 pm | #
Seriously. After the '04 election, my SO and I talked seriously of moving to Greece, where he is from. I'm thinking it's time to revisit that conversation.
I'm thinking a small town on the Breton or Normand coast. Y'all can come by for a calvados.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:47 pm | #
Evening all.
Is this an alarmingly long thread or is it just me?
steve simels
Well, there is the absence of music.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:47 pm | #
NEW THREAD NOW!
It's taking forever to load!
Chris Tucker |
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08.04.07 - 11:47 pm | #
I will personally go to his house and cook him all the bacon he can eat.
Oh, had some green beans soaked in worcestershire sauce and a slice of "Wright's" bacon tonight as a side. Good.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:48 pm | #
" I'm thinking it's time to revisit that conversation."
anybody got a paper towel? there's troll shit on the rug.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.04.07 - 11:49 pm | #
Oh fuck the fuck off you fucking troll. Are you so completely fucking stupid that you don't realize that if they have their way, you're no better off than us dirty fucking hippies? Do you think because you waved your Chinese-made flag and put your yellow ribbon on your SUV that you'll be any better off than the rest of us? Do the world a favor and go drown yourself, asshole.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.04.07 - 11:49 pm | #
I was asked today if I was a Democrat. For the first time, I answered, "No".
so sad
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.04.07 - 11:49 pm | #
Maybe I'll retire early and move to fucking Poland and live like a Prince.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:50 pm | #
I'm preparing the House D-FUCKED caucus post now. The Senate version is available here.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 11:50 pm | #
Don't take me wrong, if you feel you need to leave, do. I'll stay and fight!
dmark |
Homepage |
08.04.07 - 11:50 pm | #
Don't hit refresh comments on Crooks and Liars. It freezes your computer...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
08.04.07 - 11:50 pm | #
jim,
you find one of those hated "ChristoFascists" lurking under your futon with a tape recorder?
i.e., prompting you to move from this Fascist hell of the USA?
Kristol and Will are going to be fucking impossible tomorrow morning.
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Agent Orange |
08.04.07 - 11:51 pm | #
That cain't be Walter Neff. Not even the evil one.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:51 pm | #
Don't take me wrong, if you feel you need to leave, do. I'll stay and fight!
dmark
Well, I'm old and I have fought for many years. Now, I just want to leave it alone and find a place where peace is the norm.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:52 pm | #
There was a call for music. Well, in (dis)honor of tonight's House vote, here's Rockwell.
Tralfaz |
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08.04.07 - 11:52 pm | #
Kristol and Will are going to be fucking impossible tomorrow morning.
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Agent Orange
Will may surprise you. Kristol will not.
Jim |
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Democratic Candidates Spar at ‘Nutroots’ Forum
CHICAGO, Aug. 4 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday vigorously defended her practice of accepting political contributions from lobbyists, drawing a blunt distinction from two leading rivals as she promised an audience of liberal bloggers here that she would not be unduly influenced by special interests.
I'm so sick of that cunt.
steve simels |
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08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #
This is depressing.
crap
ErinPDX, in Sierras |
08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #
And can control what comes to the floor for votes... nah... it's not the leadership's fault.
so ya go in to the August recess doing an own goal and handing the Pretzelnitwit momentum. Are the idiots trying to lose '08?
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #
I was so gonna blow ya'll off and go watch my VHS of "The Thing" (John Carpenter version) and my VCR ate it up good. So,
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #
I'm an indie now
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.04.07 - 11:54 pm | #
Fuckin' Heath Shuler ("D"-N.C.) voted yea.
After Americans worked so hard to get him in office. Fuck.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS |
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08.04.07 - 11:54 pm | #
No, he is just likely repulsed by the stink of evil.
SharedHumanity
I wouldn't even bother responding to Magda. A fat, pimply virgin who thinks other people shooting guns make him more manly.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:56 pm | #
I'm so sick of that cunt.
steve simels | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #
Wow -- I'm sure everybody believes that was really me and a not a scumbag namestealer.
Way to go, scumbag namestealer.
steve simels |
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08.04.07 - 11:56 pm | #
Tralfaz
If only we could "Move to the Groove with Shannon", things would be steadier.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
08.04.07 - 11:56 pm | #
Well, I'm old and I have fought for many years. Now, I just want to leave it alone and find a place where peace is the norm.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:52 pm | #
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I'm no spring chicken but dammit they CANT HAVE MY COUNTRY! (Sorry I yelled)
dmark |
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08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
I have no idea who I would vote for - nobody?
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
What kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
What's next, trolls calling themselves Auschwitz and Treblinka?
Karin |
08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
Oh, and BTW -- I'm willing to be that scumbag namestealer is Butler/annie/shoe or The Little Sociopath(TM).
A class act....
steve simels |
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08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
WalterNeff
Without the slanties, I owe you one.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
fwiw, two - TWO - Republicans voted against: Johnson of Illinois and Jones of N.C.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS |
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08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
Simels:
quit the Victorian restraint: tell us what you think of Hillary
Lubyanka |
08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
Yeah, Herseth was Act Blue. And I had a crush on her, too. Thing is, though, being a D in South Dakota is different than being a D in, say, Massachusetts.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:46 pm
Like folks in South Dakota don't care about big gubmint gettin' all in to your bizness.
Go home and everytime the press asks you a question, read them the 4th amendment.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
Walter Neff
too bad people from the NW aren't allowed to run for president, because Insley, Blumenauer or DeFazio would be great presidents.
ErinPDX, in Sierras |
08.04.07 - 11:58 pm | #
What kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
What's next, trolls calling themselves Auschwitz and Treblinka?
Karin
You do rock.
cosmic tumbler |
08.04.07 - 11:59 pm | #
Republicans voted against: Johnson of Illinois and Jones of N.C.
Sinfonian,
Johnson is a surprise. Jones has been all over the map on this for a couple of years now.
Jim |
08.04.07 - 11:59 pm | #
Weird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS |
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08.04.07 - 11:59 pm | #
Oh, and BTW -- I'm willing to be that scumbag namestealer is Butler/annie/shoe or The Little Sociopath(TM).
A class act....
steve simels | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:57 pm
duh! obsessive compulsives can't walk away and enjoy life.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.04.07 - 11:59 pm | #
Lubyanka has been that way ever since the Tate-Lubyanka murders in the 60's
Not many people know that.
Gomez |
08.04.07 - 11:59 pm | #
Here's the House roll call on FISA. 41 Dems voted yea.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate
Hmmmm, my Rep Don "Up to his Ass in Scandal" Young was among the NonVoting.
WTF, over?
Barry from AK not in Chicago |
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08.05.07 - 12:00 am | #
What kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
A self-hating, closeted Cheeto-eating, bedwetting moron who needs Big Daddy to fuck him in the ass to make him feel noticed and important and protected and special.
That would be my guess.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty |
08.05.07 - 12:00 am | #
Weird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:59 pm
Like I said about Herseth, these dudes aren't willing to go home and get painted as the guys that destroyed the Constitution in the next election.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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08.05.07 - 12:00 am | #
Jay is a family friend
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.05.07 - 12:00 am | #
Shared:
Aren't you special!! Aren't you moral!!
Aren't you another preening leftwing twat!
Lubyanka |
08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
BTW --
All of the troll(s) tonight are either the Little Sociopath(TM) or Butler/annie/shoe. That includes that Soviet prison idiot.
The prose style is unmistkable.
steve simels |
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08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
Weird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS
I owes ya a fizzy beverage.
Barry from AK not in Chicago |
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08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
I was so gonna blow ya'll off and go watch my VHS of "The Thing" (John Carpenter version) and my VCR ate it up good. So,
You spelled 'DVD' wrong...
NTodd, Special |
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08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
What kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
What's next, trolls calling themselves Auschwitz and Treblinka?
Karin
I hear that train a comin'...
Folsom County |
08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
Weird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian
Why are you surprised? You do live in Florida, right?
cosmic tumbler |
08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS
Don Young is back in Alaska burning real estate records, Tancredo is burning a cross somewhere, and Hastert is incapacitated with grief over a burnt S'More (he ate it anyway, but it was his last marshmallow and the pain is raw).
Jim |
08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
www.house.gov isn't accessible. Maybe it's getting hammered?
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS |
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08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
Lubyanka,
first, you are a silly child. coming here and shitting on the rug merely proves you are not yet toilet trained. if you want to talk to the grown ups, raise your hand and ask politely.
hilarity? from you? no. This board is often funny but you add nothing to it. you annoy and you attempt to harass, but you fail at that. now go sit in the corner and be quiet. the grown ups are talking.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.05.07 - 12:02 am | #
Gonna listen to the Boston beat my Ms - ta ta
WalterNeff, 69,876 |
08.05.07 - 12:02 am | #
Why are you surprised? You do live in Florida, right?
cosmic tumbler
I'm surprised because Ron Klein has been out in front on most of this stuff. (Yes, I'm in Florida.)
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS |
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08.05.07 - 12:03 am | #
"The prose style is unmistakable."
Prose style? that shit is a style? whoever educated this fool really ought to give it a refund.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.05.07 - 12:03 am | #
Search and seizure is now not illegal?
How could this have happened?
smalfish,bikerider |
08.05.07 - 12:03 am | #
Aren't you special!! Aren't you moral!!
Aren't you another preening leftwing twat!
Lubemyanus | 08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
Sorry...you got me wrong....I am a 51 year old father of four...MBA from UofC...business executive with a six figure income.
SharedHumanity |
08.05.07 - 12:04 am | #
Aren't you another preening leftwing twat!
Lubyanka | 08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #
"Twat" -- that proves its Butler/annie/shoe.
Classic woman hater pretending to be some kind of feminist. Truly sick..
steve simels |
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08.05.07 - 12:04 am | #
Lubyanka,
first, you are a silly child. coming here and shitting on the rug merely proves you are not yet toilet trained
And that rug kind of ties the room together.
Folsom County |
08.05.07 - 12:04 am | #
Blod:
calm yourself, as befits a teacher...
Lubyanka |
08.05.07 - 12:04 am | #
sheets, glorious sheets
ErinPDX, in Sierras |
08.05.07 - 12:05 am | #
You do rock.
cosmic tumbler
Slowly, at my age, so I don't throw out my back.
Karin |
08.05.07 - 12:06 am | #
All of the troll(s) tonight are either the Little Sociopath(TM) or Butler/annie/shoe. That includes that Soviet prison idiot.
I still think it's Brian Hardig/stemcell jethro/dipshit/liberal jeenyus.
NTodd, Special |
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08.05.07 - 12:06 am | #
We be sheeted, gracias adias.
bo |
08.05.07 - 12:06 am | #
I'm surprised because Ron Klein has been out in front on most of this stuff. (Yes, I'm in Florida.)
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS
Never trust. Always monitor. Bye-the bye. I liked your radio voice.
cosmic tumbler |
08.05.07 - 12:06 am | #
simels:
"twat" = an effeminate twit, as fits so many of you defeatist surrender-monkeys
Lubyanka |
08.05.07 - 12:07 am | #
Lubyanka,
that was calm. piss me off and you will see the difference.
you accomplish nothing here besides lowering the average educational level of the posters. you have nothing to contribute.
Now as I said go sit down. if you have something to say ask nicely.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.05.07 - 12:07 am | #
Yeah, Herseth was Act Blue. And I had a crush on her, too. Thing is, though, being a D in South Dakota is different than being a D in, say, Massachusetts.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:46 pm
Like folks in South Dakota don't care about big gubmint gettin' all in to your bizness.
Go home and everytime the press asks you a question, read them the 4th amendment.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #
i know stephanie personally. she's ok. even for this crowd.
fokowi at lake cabin |
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08.05.07 - 12:07 am | #
"twat" = an effeminate twit, as fits so many of you defeatist surrender-monkeys
Lubyanka
No, "twat" does not equal "twit" in any way, shape, or form. But since you are clearly the latter, there is no point in expecting you to know the difference.
Brooklyn Girl, home at last |
08.05.07 - 12:09 am | #
simels:
"twat" = an effeminate twit, as fits so many of you defeatist surrender-monkeys
Lubyanka | 08.05.07 - 12:07 am | #
Lubyanka=a fat transvestite cheeto eating misogynist reactionary fratboy Texas asshole who won't enlist in the war that he/she supports because its a psychotic coward.
Nice of you to drop by, Butler.
Or is it Toby?
steve simels |
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08.05.07 - 12:10 am | #
"Or is it Toby?"
how can we tell - trollshit is trollshit.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.05.07 - 12:12 am | #
Watched that live through the magic of closed-circuit TV - my dad took me with him to the Paramount.
Buncha temporarily happy white guys, iirc.
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QuentinCompson |
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08.05.07 - 12:15 am | #
[...unwittingly...]
Lubyanka |
08.05.07 - 12:15 am | #
Patterson won it back, KO-ing Johansson in their next fight
Lubyanka |
08.05.07 - 12:16 am | #
so, i'm out on the deck, right? thinking and... 'er, whatever.
and, imagining a scenario where if i were running for prez and had bill clinton as my campaign manager, and al gore as my lead media person... now all i have to do is pick my vp.
hmmm...... any suggestions?
fokowi at lake cabin reloaded |
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08.05.07 - 12:19 am | #
"now all i have to do is pick my vp.
hmmm...... any suggestions?"
Bill Moyers?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
08.05.07 - 12:21 am | #