I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Power surge!


GravatarPower surge unplugged!


Gravatarimpeachment surge!


GravatarBush's surge. Up or down?

Those poor people. Temperatures at 120 degrees and no electricity. Criminal, to say the least.


GravatarOT: Foot and Mouth disease outbreak in UK was from a vaccine lab.


GravatarFrifth !


GravatarSell then Generators!!!!

/wingnut OFF


GravatarWell, I suppose that if your parents named you after a monkey, you'd be an ass, as well.

Pay attention to the locals unplugging their generators from the grid; I expect that to start happening in the US before this decade is over.


Gravatarno water either - With temperatures in Iraq edging close to 120 degrees Fahrenheit, there could not be a more dangerously inconvenient time for Baghdad's decrepit infrastructure to fail on the delivery of water.

Residents and city officials said large sections in the west of the capital had been virtually dry for six days because the already strained electricity grid cannot provide sufficient power to run water purification and pumping stations, according to the AP.

Adel al-Ardawi, a spokesman for the Baghdad city government, said that even with sufficient electricity "it would take 24 hours for the water mains to refill so we can begin pumping to residents. And even then the water won't be clean for a time."


http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index..._in_Summer_Heat


GravatarBuckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 08.04.07 - 5:19 pm | #

what got really wiggy for me was getting to know the professor who taught me African history. he is Ethiopian and was there during the famines and political troubles. to hear him matter of factly discuss running from the city to the country and back to escape the violence was sobering.

when he saw I was the only one affected by rwanda he went off - told the class either they were not human or they did not do the readings.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 5:22 pm |


We've got quite a few medical residents from Africa.

It's very sad when they tell me I'm really the first American they've met who knows much about the continent (particularly the genocides/mass murders). And I really don't know much.

I think that I'm something of an empath, that's why it affects me, but I still keep reading. I need to try and understand as much as possible.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 08.04.07 - 5:26 pm |


GravatarDamn you mer!

And the power grid in Philadelphia is much worse!


GravatarAren't Hoof & Mouth and Antrax related?

Seems I recall something along those lines.


GravatarBAGHDAD (AP) - Iraq's electricity grid could collapse any day because of insurgent sabotage, rising demand, fuel shortages

Why can't you see the progress????


GravatarThe Greek Orthodox Church in Cyprus has announced plans to invest $234m (£115m) in solar energy.

Archbishop Chrysostomos II said the church would build a factory that would make photo-voltaic panels to capture the sun's energy.

He said proceeds from the investment would be used to provide financial help to clergy and fund other social work.

The government has warned of power cuts in 2008 if the island does not secure additional electricity supplies.

The move follows criticism of the state-run Cyprus electricity authority's apparent failure to cope with increased demand during the recent heatwave which triggered power cuts on the island.

The Orthodox Church is among the island's biggest landowners with sizeable investments in banking, construction, hotels and wine-making.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 6931310.stm


GravatarBill Kristol thinks this is good news.


GravatarFuel shortages in Iraq is an anomaty.


GravatarUhh, Anthrax.

Not the band either.


GravatarThe surge is working it is just not electrical in nature?


Gravatar"I will kill myself. I have no meaning in life after you," al-Jibouri cried, standing at the gate of a morgue awaiting his sons' bodies. He kissed each of them before their coffins were closed.

piffle. we know they don't feel things the way we do.


Gravatarspinoza

Philly is a good place to be; grid likely to stay up due to PJM.

My guess is that the midWest will be the place where some governor says, fuck that shit, I'm keeping my local grid on during the summer or winter and fuck the rest of the country, FERC doesn't have troops at its disposal.


GravatarThose poor people. Temperatures at 120 degrees and no electricity. Criminal, to say the least.
mer


How did they ever get by until a/c was invented?


GravatarHow did he C&P from the monitor?

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GravatarPlum P and Hecate and Uncle Smokes: this is as bad as it gets. We walked to the train station through the bleak landscape. On the rise of a hill just above the station, we saw a scene before us that is burned forever in my memory. They say that time is a constant, but it was not that day. Instead, the scene before us appeared no more than a bleak watercolor painting. As we gazed, it seemed that everyone and everything was locked into their ositions as if they were afraid to move. It is a scene I will never forget.
As we stared at the still life watercolor with its gauzy images displayed before us and tried to understand what we were seeing, our vision was disturbed by an approaching train as its mournful whistle ripped the sky. Its stack belched dark clouds into the still blue and white world, and its driving wheels beat out a mechanical background to the sterile scene.
As we stared, we noticed that there were Nazis lining the tracks. Spaced about thirty feet apart, they stood with their weapons ready. Some carried rifles, and a few had automatic weapons, but all were poised for action.
As the train entered the station, we could see that the train’s cars, usually reserved for transporting livestock, were filled with people. Even with a casual glance, I could see that these people looked no more than walking skeletons. They were so pale and thin their bones were clearly visible in their hands and faces as they pressed against the slats exposing them to the elements. I thought they looked like they were already dead, and I wanted to avert my eyes: I did not. Instead, some force drew me to stare at this maudlin scene.
As the train came to a stop, I noticed that a board on the side of one of the cars had come loose. A young Jewish woman delicately pushed a small infant through the crack. Why she did this, I have never understood. What did she hope to accomplish? To this day I cannot say that I know with any certainty. I suppose if I had been her, I might have done the same. But, of this, I am less than sure. I understand it better now, but I still do not think I could have done what she did.
A German soldier moved toward the baby where it lay crying on the white snow. I reached for my father and felt his strong arm on my shoulder as he pulled me close. The soldier stood over the baby with his weapon in a firing position. It looked as if he were readying the gun for firing, but my mind would not let me believe that anyone could do this. The mother managed to jump from the car but landed wrong. When she tried to walk, it was obvious that her leg was broken. Disregarding the pain, she began moving toward the baby, hopping on her good leg and dragging the other behind her. From my vantage point, I could see the panic and hatred in her eyes. The soldier’s upper lip twitched as he walked close to the infant, lowered his rifle to the baby’s head, looked the other way, and squeezed the trigger.


GravatarRecession peers over the horizon


GravatarHow did he C&P from the monitor?

.
agave


Mad skillz. And awesome secret internet powers.


GravatarContinued
The mother’s scream ripped from her heart as she limped pitifully toward the soldier. As the seconds passed, I could tell she was cursing him as strongly as I have ever heard anyone curse another. As I stared, I realized that she looked like she was on the verge of death as she staggered to her dead baby.
Helplessly, with tears streaming, she told the soldier that his time was coming. With no expression whatsoever, the soldier raised his weapon to her head and pulled the trigger again and again.
With each retort of the rifle, an involuntary spasm rocked my body. These visions are still with me. I cannot loose them from my consciousness. They have become part of me, and damn them for that. It was at that moment that I learned that hate is not always a bad word. Sometimes, hate is necessary to understand that which cannot be understood without the benefit of this lens to sharpen our focus.
I heard my father cry, “Oh, my God.” I looked at him. His face was pale, and he clenched his fists time and again. I turned my head toward him, clung closely, and let my tears fall.


GravatarNow that I am no longer banned, I have nothing pertinent to say outside of a string of expletives, from which I will spare you.


GravatarPelosi/Sheehan : so, everyone's so cool with Pelosi's (and the House's) inaction on the war and on Bush that no one should run that can push her further to the left? They shouldn't be challenged to do what they promised us they'd do in 2006?
Meander, embittered liberal

plantsman -- of course, my expectations are unrealistic. I keep expecting Democrats to oppose Republicans. How unrealistic.


GravatarThat’s Capitalism!


GravatarThose poor people. Temperatures at 120 degrees and no electricity. Criminal, to say the least.

Making bush live, and work in that crawford pig farm without AC if it again was a working farm, would be a good place to incarcerate him.


GravatarSo elevators now have TV's in them?


GravatarNow that I am no longer banned, I have nothing pertinent to say outside of a string of expletives, from which I will spare you.


Please do. Be my honored guest.


GravatarSo elevators now have TV's in them?

I know there are refrigerators with TV's in them.


GravatarThe rethugs in the House are going to scream bloody murder that they haven't been able to vote on the FISA bill, but in the meantime they keep dragging out voting on the Energy Bill.


GravatarNext they're going to put them in restrooms.

If they haven't already.


GravatarI have nothing pertinent to say outside of a string of expletives, from which I will spare you.

i don't know enough expletives. or strong enough.

and i used to be a dockworker in jersey city.


GravatarAt least nine people have been killed and dozens wounded in a suicide car bomb attack in northwest Pakistan.

The bomber car rammed his car into vehicles parked near a bus station in Parachinar, in North West Frontier Province near the border with Afghanistan, security officials said.

"Five people died on the spot while four died in the hospital," Hanif Jan, senior doctor at the main government hospital in Parachinar, said on Saturday.

He said that 35 people had been wounded, some critically.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ...B943512666C.htm


Gravatarand i used to be a dockworker in jersey city

dirk, if you really wanted to put a good string of expletives together, you should have joined the Marines.


Gravatardirk, if you really wanted to put a good string of expletives together, you should have joined the Marines.
Barndog, fully Blissed


so i've heard - mostly from the ex-marines on the docks.

but i actually don't think there are sufficient expletives for the way i've been feeling.


GravatarI grew up in a pretty tough neighborhood and thought I knew them all. Then I logged on here.


Gravatar21st Century Atheism


GravatarOK, you refreshingly rational Moonbats, the well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner, and I believe that I will let him. Stay human. It's not as easy as it sounds. If I am lucky, I'll talk with you later tonight.


Gravatar#$%@!! *&^%!!

#$%@!! *&^%!!

#$%@!! *&^%!!

and furthermore...


Gravatarbut i actually don't think there are sufficient expletives for the way i've been feeling

I understand this issue.


GravatarA ‘new’ politics #4


GravatarOK, you refreshingly rational Moonbats, the well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner, and I believe that I will let him. Stay human. It's not as easy as it sounds. If I am lucky, I'll talk with you later tonight.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


If he plays his cards right, will he be showing you his O-Face?


GravatarShock and awe was a fucking great success was it not?

Blowing shit up is what Chimpy is good at. Putting it back together is not so easy.


Gravatar#$%@!! *&^%!!

and furthermore...

C'mon Gomez - you're an attorney. I've known many in my years. You can do better.


Gravataris thebewilderness someone with a beard, dogs and carpentry skills?


GravatarCHICAGO - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton refused Saturday to forsake campaign donations from lobbyists, turning aside challenges from her two main rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination with a rare defense of the special interest industry.

"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do," Clinton said, drawing boos and hisses from liberal bloggers at the second Yearly Kos convention.

Why anyone supports HRC or anyone with this mindset is beyond me.


Gravatarbye for now


Gravatar the well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner, and I believe that I will let him.

I'm very glad you're still letting him buy you dinners. Wear your pearls, won't you?


Gravataris thebewilderness someone with a beard, dogs and carpentry skills?

This has my vote.


Gravatar"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do,"

Awww geeez...


Gravatarthe well-dressed man is here, wanting to buy me some dinner,

dressed?

i'm sorry.


GravatarThis has my vote.


Barndog, fully Blissed |



08.04.07 - 5:44 pm | #

Hmmmm.


GravatarMoney comes and goes - but awesome cooking skills do not.


Gravatarhttp://www.comcast.net/news/nati.../04/ 731505.html


Okay - HOW does someone FORGET that they left TWO kids in a car?


Gravatari've got to be going soon. plus, i've got a run in my tights and have to pick up another pair.


Gravatar"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do,"

As opposed to fake Americans; who only appear on blogs.

And some lobbyists, who don't represent anyone, but are merely confused and can't find their way home. Oh, and those lobbyists who represent foreigners. But foreigners merely sap our purity of essence, so they should be disregarded.


Gravatari've got a run in my tights and have to pick up another pair

A real man knows how to sew, and knit.


GravatarA real man knows how to sew, and knit.
Barndog, fully Blissed | 08.04.07 - 5:47 pm | #


i can't see or reach the area that needs repair.


GravatarShe didn't forget:
Sametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.

"She was either told to come to work or be fired or she was afraid to call in sick _ one of those things," said police Lt. Michael Fowler.


Gravatar"A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans, they actually do," Clinton said, drawing boos and hisses from liberal bloggers at the second Yearly Kos convention.


I told you they were hateful people.

/Bill O


GravatarShe didn't forget:
Sametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.

"She was either told to come to work or be fired or she was afraid to call in sick _ one of those things," said police Lt. Michael Fowler.
Culture of TrÜth


Don't we have emergency rooms for this kind of thing?


Gravatari can't see or reach the area that needs repair

I was under the impression you were naked most of the time, dirk.

Am I misinformed?


GravatarShe didn't forget:
Sametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.

"She was either told to come to work or be fired or she was afraid to call in sick _ one of those things," said police Lt. Michael Fowler.
Culture of TrÜth


Almost every other civilized country has day care. But not Murka.

Oh, no......


GravatarSo, she'll be damned for working.

And she'd be damned if she was on welfare.


GravatarI was under the impression you were naked most of the time, dirk.

Am I misinformed?
Barndog, fully Blissed | 08.04.07 - 5:49 pm | #


most of the time.

but i have a show tonight.

no, not that kind of show


GravatarShe had left Triniti and Shawn with battery-powered fans, food and drinks, but it was not nearly enough to combat the sweltering conditions inside. She later told relatives that when she got to the car at 11:30 p.m., the children were unconscious and had weak pulses.

Heyward, 27, was charged with two counts of homicide by child abuse. A funeral for the children was held Saturday.


********************


GravatarSametta Heyward was in a bind. The single mother was scheduled to start a double shift at 3 p.m. and her baby sitter had just canceled.



I'll bet she wasn't getting a dime of child support, either.


Gravatarbut i have a show tonight.

Dammed glad I'm staying home.


GravatarShe worked at a group home.

Residents probably would have liked to have some kids around.


GravatarShe worked at a group home.

Residents probably would have liked to have some kids around.
Culture of TrÜth


Perhaps.

But would her bosses?


GravatarDammed glad I'm staying home.
Barndog, fully Blissed | 08.04.07 - 5:52 pm | #


you are correct.

the show sucks. worst director i've ever worked with.

i hope spielberg doesn't finally show up to see me perform after all these years.


GravatarHer friends and her bosses and even the officers who arrested her say Heyward had been trying her best: working long hours and providing for her children.

She and her children had moved in May into the $185-a-week apartment in Hanahan, a bedroom community of about 14,000 people some 15 miles from Charleston.

A few months before the move, she put a newborn up for adoption. A 12-year-old son lives with his father in Maryland.


Gravatar@#$%^&!!! "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!" "@#$%^&!!!"

Ahhhh.


GravatarA 12-year-old son lives with his father in Maryland.
Culture of TrÜth



27 with a 12 year old.

Damn.


GravatarPerhaps.

But would her bosses?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATB


Just speculating about wastefulness in the system as a whole. That this should not have happened.


GravatarIraq's electricity grid could collapse any day because of insurgent sabotage, rising demand, fuel shortages and provincial officials who are unplugging local power stations from the national system, electricity officials said on Saturday.

It's that pesky Reality, with it's annoying Liberal Bias, again.

Stop having your cherished assumptions blown away by troublesome attacks of Reality! Get Republican Reality Lite(tm) today, and you'll Never Have to Change your Mind Again!

Act Now before prices go up!!!

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Gravatar************************************

SURGECCESS 4EVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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GravatarShe later told relatives that when she got to the car at 11:30 p.m., the children were unconscious and had weak pulses.

haven't said this in a couple days:

fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

fucking stupid world. really. just doesn't make sense.

ok, that's all for me.

i'm off.


GravatarNo electricity means no way to power the water pumps, which means no water.

We really need to send kristol over there.


GravatarIs Enron in charge?


Gravatarit is the fault of the leftwing bloggers and their mean spirited attacks from Micheal OHanlon


GravatarThat this should not have happened.
Culture of TrÜth |


No, it shouldn't have.

Women shouldn't have to choose between their kids' safety and losing their jobs.


GravatarI'm not saying stuff like this doesn't happen in Canada or France of Britain or Oz - it does. But not as a direct result of the very nature of government.
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GravatarThose green zone burger king signs glowing in the otherwise black-out Baghdad night should only help to increase our popularity.


GravatarWASHINGTON - Afghanistan will produce another record poppy harvest this year that cements its status as the world's near-sole supplier of the heroin source, yet a furious debate over how to reverse the trend is stalling proposals to cut the crop, U.S. officials say.

High Fives at the CIA!


GravatarIf they don't have electricity they won't have to watch Glenn Beck's shitty show.


GravatarHow could she not have known that keeping them in a locked car was dangerous. I bet it's not the first time she did it.


Gravatar"candlelight dinners are great! no air conditioning in 130 degrees is just what the surgeon general ordered"-Ken Pollack


GravatarCaring about animals....or afraid it will lose money?

ATLANTA - Michael Vick lost another sponsor - Rawlings.

The sports goods company said Tuesday it was ending its relationship with the Atlanta Flacons quarterback because of dogfighting conspiracy charges.

``Rawlings recognizes that Mr. Vick has not been convicted of the charges stemming from his recent indictment,'' the St. Louis company said. ``However, we have determined that ending our relationship with Mr. Vick at this time is necessary.''

Rawlings used Vick's image in promotional displays in stores, and its decision is the latest commercial setback for the NFL star.

Last week, Nike suspended a lucrative contract with Vick, and Reebok stopped sales of his No. 7 jersey. Upper Deck removed all Vick autographed memorabilia from its online store and said it was removing Vick trading cards from NFL sets to be released in October.

``Rawlings is disappointed about the charges brought against Mr. Vick for his alleged participation in a dogfighting operation,'' the company said. ``Dogfighting is illegal and entirely unacceptable to Rawlings.''


Gravataryet a furious debate over how to reverse the trend is stalling proposals to cut the crop, U.S. officials say.

I wonder if they're using heroin at that debate.


GravatarRe-HICA!

Speakin' of 130°, it's 101°F here in the 37209, today.

I've had two naps, and I still feel like hell. Maybe I have some dread disease. Yesterday just sucked the life right out of me.

I'm thinkin' I may take a run over to the local Messican restaurant for dinner, to treat myself. I kinda need to hit Target, and it's in the same area. Plus, I could stop and get a Redbox flick.
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GravatarI guess if Sametta Heyward had been a white fundie like this woman, offers of help would have come from everywhere:

http://health.discovery.com/conv...s/ jennifer.html


GravatarTerry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | 08.04.07 - 6:05 pm | #

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.


Gravatar"candlelight dinners are great! no air conditioning in 130 degrees is just what the surgeon general ordered"-Ken Pollack
jr


Actually, what he said was, if there isn't a political solution, the lack of electricity could be a problem.

And there should be a political solution, because America kicked over the Iraqi ant mound, and now is leaving it to them to repair everything. Why they can't just work together and create democracy out of chaos (something that has never been done in the history of the world, AFAIK), is apparently the Iraqis fault.

But Pollack and O'Hanlon regret that their comments were misconstrued.


GravatarLarge families are a blessing. As long as they're white and Christian.

/Winger.


GravatarAfghanistan will produce another record poppy harvest

Poppy harvest - Isn't that Barbara Bush's nickname for her kids?


GravatarLarge families are a blessing. As long as they're white and Christian.

/Winger.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi


You forgot rich; or at least upper middle class.


GravatarWell, isn't THAT just special.

August with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.


GravatarAugust with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?


No one will be left by September but terrorists. Then we can dust off and nuke the whole place from space.


GravatarI just hope they get through summer soon in Iraq. That is one thing we aren't really appreciating. At best 2-4 hours of electricity a day on days that get into the high triple digits. For years now.

How would we be reacting if this was going on in Houston or Miami for this long?


Gravatar
August with no electricity.


No wonder the Iraqi government lit outta town.


GravatarRe-HICA!

Speakin' of 130°, it's 101°F here in the 37209, today.


Wow.

It's only 91 here. In August. Crazy.


GravatarHow would we be reacting if this was going on in Houston or Miami for this long?
trifecta


Or New Orleans.


GravatarNo one will be left by September but terrorists. Then we can dust off and nuke the whole place from space.

I think you've identified Plan B.


GravatarLarge families are a blessing. As long as they're white and Christian.

/Winger.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi


She's going to keep on having them till menopause shuts her down.


GravatarThe news may sound unsettling over there,
But mind you, there's no reason to despair,
In fact, there's every reason to keep grinning:
Petraeus will, next month, report we're winning.


GravatarHey, it's going to cool down to 104 on Wednesday in Iraq. That's something.


GravatarThey could use our chickenhawks for fuel.


GravatarThen we can dust off and nuke the whole place from space.


That option will always be on the table, and you can't make me take it off!!


GravatarHow would we be reacting if this was going on in Houston or Miami for this long?
trifecta


I'd have driven to Washington and put a head or two on my pitchfork.

But I'm cranky that way when I get hot.


GravatarAugust with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Or die from the heat....or from thirst.


GravatarI just went out to take more photos of my scooter handiwork from this morning, and it's like a fucking oven outside.
.


GravatarI feel guilty now that I have AC.


GravatarHey, it's going to cool down to 104 on Wednesday in Iraq. That's something.
trifecta


Well, it's a dry heat....


...so that's something.


GravatarThey could use our chickenhawks for fuel.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi



Throw in Patraeus and you're talking my language.


GravatarNo electricity means no way to store baby food or medicine.

Culture of life! Culture of life!


GravatarOr die from the heat....or from thirst.

When the electricity goes they won't have any potable water either.


GravatarAugust with no electricity. I guess Iraq will be nice and peaceful once the rest of the people flee.

Or they all die of heat exhaustion and dehydration...


GravatarWhen the electricity goes they won't have any potable water either.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?


That's already in short supply. Makes concerns about a/c rather irrelevant.


GravatarA friend of mine is over there right now.

Ack.

I think he's coming back this week though.


GravatarOr they all die of heat exhaustion and dehydration...
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth


I wonder if that's the plan.


GravatarThat's already in short supply. Makes concerns about a/c rather irrelevant.

I think they're mostly concerned with getting water and keeping their food from spoiling.


GravatarI read this as Dirk Diggler:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...d=moreheadlines


GravatarCitizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.


GravatarOh well, in happier news, I ordered mah new car today.

Woo hooo!!


GravatarCitizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 6:18 pm | #

Lets face it. A day without TV would cause a revolution here.


GravatarFit?


GravatarPelosi/Sheehan : so, everyone's so cool with Pelosi's (and the House's) inaction on the war and on Bush
I applaud Sheehan. Pelosi and Reid are a disgrace to the billions of people that hoped they would stand up to Bush and Cheney.


GravatarI think they're mostly concerned with getting water and keeping their food from spoiling.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?


Yup. You can tell how far removed from the reality of no electricity we are. I know people who saw their first electrical appliance as young children, and then it was a demonstration. They still live in the Houston area, having grown up without a/c. But they had wells for water.

A/C you can live without. Water is another matter. And even NPR was reporting this a.m. that potable water is in short supply in some areas. That situation is not improving, either.

But Kristol sees more clearly than we, and knows all those thirsty people are just ingrates who don't appreciate our gifts of freedom.


GravatarFoot-in-mouth disease found in the White House?


Gravatar4LGS what kinda car did you buy?


GravatarFit?
Culture of TrÜth


Yah, this one.

http://automobiles.honda.com/ too...A20070804221350

It's almost obnoxiously bright.


GravatarCitizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 6:18 pm | #


American's priorities have reached the point where they would much rather give up their constitutional rights than their cars or air conditioners
.


Gravatar4LGS what kinda car did you buy?

Honda Fit.

It's perfect for me- I mostly just drive around the city. Has lots of space for tripods and stuff.


GravatarCitizens of the US depend so much on electricity, all they need is the lack of - 1-2 weeks, for white flags to hang from each house.
Gilly Gonzylon


3 days, and they'd be going nuts or giving up. I was in Houston when Rita knocked out our power for about that long. I recalled farmers who'd lived in the area 70 years earlier, who would have simply cleared the debris and re-lit the lamps and pumped water out of the well and lit the fire.

We had to have matches to light the gas stove, batteries to keep the radio going, and no lights at all when the sun went down, except flashlights. Such is progress.


GravatarI'm waiting for the Smart to arrive next year.


GravatarIt's been a pleasure.


Gravatar

HEY DUMBASS BROWNS MANAGEMENT - SIGN BRADY QUINN


The Steelers are tired of tackling Charlie Frye - he doesn't bathe regularly.

P.U.


GravatarAmerican's priorities have reached the point where they would much rather give up their constitutional rights than their cars or air conditioners
.
Tacitus Voltaire


Sad, but true.


GravatarColor?


GravatarI'm waiting for the Smart to arrive next year.

I'd be too frightened to drive one of those here.

But the Fit should be fun- it's small and kind of peppy and even rather hip among the young crowd.

Great gas mileage too.


GravatarAmerican's priorities have reached the point where they would much rather give up their constitutional rights than their cars or air conditioners

Cars and A/C ARE our God-given rights! And all the energy we need, forever, to run 'em on!


GravatarYah, this one.

http://automobiles.honda.com/ too...A20070804221350

It's almost obnoxiously bright.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?



Fella on my street has a bright red one.


Gravatar feel guilty now that I have AC.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 6:15 pm | #


No need to feels remorseful, cool the air,
If fact, throw in a can of frosty beer:
As Chimpy says, if we don't beat the heat there
The heat will come and fight us over here.


GravatarVivid Blue pearl.

I figured since I wuz geting a funky car it should be a funky bright color.


GravatarWhat are the Browns offering the boy?


GravatarFella on my street has a bright red one.

I love the red, but I'd have had to wait until late September for a red one.


GravatarWe had to have matches to light the gas stove, batteries to keep the
radio going, and no lights at all when the sun went down, except
flashlights. Such is progress.


Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |


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08.04.07 - 6:22 pm | #

We have my husband's grandmother's oil lamps on the sideboard. He's 72...and remembers their complete self sufficiency. Thinking of installing her woodstove as auxilliary heat in winter.  Can't imagine what we would do without the A/C...suffocate probably.


GravatarA collapsing electrical grid actually is good news since it means Iraqis are learning to conserve. It will be the first "green" democracy in the Middle East. Green is on the March!

Or something.

-


GravatarFella on my street has a bright red one.

I love the red, but I'd have had to wait until late September for a red one.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Nothing wrong with the blue.


GravatarMy town is really getting into the alternative fuel thingy. Within a mile of the house there is a biodiesel station, and this week-end a natural gas filling station for vehicles just opened.


GravatarCan't imagine what we would do without the A/C...suffocate probably.

I would die.


GravatarI'd be too frightened to drive one of those here.



But the Fit should be fun- it's small and kind of peppy and even rather hip among the young crowd.



Great gas mileage too.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


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08.04.07 - 6:24 pm |

I saw them all over Paris in 2001. If they can handle Paris traffic they should do Austin just fine. I understand they are quite well rated for safety.  You made a good choice though considering your photography gear has to go somewhere.


GravatarNothing wrong with the blue.

No, I really like the blue.


GravatarWalked around Austin yesterday. The heat (the humidity wasn't that bad, compared to Houston) got to my daughter much worse than it got to me.

All a matter of what you're used to. I spent my childhood summers out doors in East Texas. A/C was a luxury. Now, it's as common as drinking water.

So it goes.


GravatarFly,

Are you sure you're not Calvin Trillin?


GravatarIf they can handle Paris traffic they should do Austin just fine

Paris isn't filled with assholes driving gigantic SUVs, Hummers and pickup trucks.

But yes, I do need me some cargo space.


GravatarWhat are the Browns offering the boy?
billy b - west coast blues


8 mill guaranteed. Around 1 mill per year base.

Incentives. He wants more.


GravatarWhen the electricity goes they won't have any potable water either.

They already don't have potable water.


GravatarBlue would be my choice too.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarI got a Fit it's great - and safe as well


GravatarIts the reason the Browns suck.

You pay extra for a first round QB to get him into camp.

FUCK the money. They print it in the NFL.


GravatarI still have the loaner car from the Acura dealer.

I've felt guilty driving around in the TSX all week- it's not that big of a car, but does one person need that much automobile?

I think not. (thanks Al Gore for making us all think about these things)


GravatarThey already don't have potable water.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth


Why would anyone want to pote it? Just drink it, for goodness sake!


GravatarI got a Fit it's great - and safe as well

Excellent.

Fun to drive? did you get a manual or automatic?


GravatarWhy would anyone want to pote it? Just drink it, for goodness sake!

Hey, different cultures do different shit. Who am I to judge?


GravatarRMJ,

It has been fairly pleasant here in the Hills if you ignore the flooded and impassable roads we have had up here All the rain has really helped keep the temps down. As 4LGS said earlier it has been unusually cool.

I grew up in L.A. without A/C until I was 10 in 1970. Box fans work really well.


GravatarThis Iraq war talk is harshing my NFL buzz.


GravatarBlue would be my choice too.

Why, you have excellent taste sir!


Would you like cheezburger?


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only....

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarI only drive manual but yeah it's fun as much as it can be without being a Porsche


GravatarGotta go fire up the charcoal.


Gravatarhellkitty, I keep forgetting you're in my vicinity.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarWould you like cheezburger?


DUZ IT HAZ FLAVR?


GravatarParis isn't filled with assholes driving gigantic SUVs, Hummers and pickup trucks.



But yes, I do need me some cargo space.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:29 pm |

you have a point there...but then Paris is filled with Parisians who don't really like traffic laws too.


GravatarI grew up in L.A. without A/C until I was 10 in 1970. Box fans work really well.

therealhellkitty


I miss the attic fan of my childhood. Like sleeping under a prop plane. Once you learn to tune that noise out, you can sleep through anything.


GravatarI only drive manual but yeah it's fun as much as it can be without being a Porsche

Nice. Glad to hear it.

I drove a Civic but found it boring. The Fit just seems more fun.


Gravatar4Legs, how are the darling Gurrlzz?


GravatarDUZ IT HAZ FLAVR?

Oh yes.

From the jalapenos.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarIt has been fairly pleasant here in the Hills if you ignore the flooded and impassable roads we have had up here All the rain has really helped keep the temps down.

I do miss the Hill Country.


Gravatarhellkitty, I keep forgetting you're in my vicinity.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


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08.04.07 - 6:34 pm | #

Are you north or south?


GravatarI don't really care much as long as I get from A to B and it's small. But it even has all around airbags - that's an improvement for me


Gravatar8 mill guaranteed. Around 1 mill per year base.

Incentives. He wants more.


That ain't much.


Gravatar4Legs, how are the darling Gurrlzz?

They are great, though poor little Ripley is teething and her little mouf is a little swollen.

So funny, her adult canines are coming in but her baby canines haven't fallen out.

So she has four.


GravatarG'evening, bats.

I'm scheduled to go to a wedding reception soon, so please, give me an excuse to stall...


GravatarI went to the every Saturday book sale at the public library. It was entertaining to see all the 'make a million in real estate' and 'make a million in the stock market' books piled high. Even funnier was one of those cheap self-published books that those wealth hucksters sell at their 200 dollar seminars for sale for a buck.


GravatarAre you north or south?

Central.

Shoal creek area-ish.


GravatarI do miss the Hill Country.


Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin |


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08.04.07 - 6:36 pm | #

We had another inch of rain Thursday. The creek below my house was roaring over the bridge. Soils here are totally saturated.


GravatarI saw the Ronald Reagan book at the dollar store.


(Great place to shop, btw)


GravatarWalking does more than driving to cause global warming, a leading environmentalist has calculated.

Food production is now so energy-intensive that more carbon is emitted providing a person with enough calories to walk to the shops than a car would emit over the same distance. The climate could benefit if people avoided exercise, ate less and became couch potatoes. Provided, of course, they remembered to switch off the TV rather than leaving it on standby.

The sums were done by Chris Goodall, campaigning author of How to Live a Low-Carbon Life, based on the greenhouse gases created by intensive beef production. “Driving a typical UK car for 3 miles [4.8km] adds about 0.9 kg [2lb] of CO2 to the atmosphere,” he said, a calculation based on the Government’s official fuel emission figures. “If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving


GravatarI don't really care much as long as I get from A to B and it's small. But it even has all around airbags - that's an improvement for me

That's my feeling too.

But for a little, inexpensive car, it has a little style and fun.


GravatarFor those who didn't get near enough Shad! earlier...
.


GravatarShoal creek area-ish.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


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08.04.07 - 6:38 pm |

nearish to Grapeving Mkt?


GravatarIraq's electricity grid could collapse any day because of insurgent sabotage, rising demand, fuel shortages and provincial officials who are unplugging local power stations from the national system, electricity officials said on Saturday.

The war supporters keep on thinking that Iraq is a military problem, and with their video game mentality, think that we will soon 'kill all th' bad guys' and then the bell will go off and declare Bush a winner.

The fact is that we are failing to own and operate a country of 23 million people. The war is just a part of it...
.


GravatarCan't imagine what we would do without the A/C...suffocate probably.

I would die.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?


Phoenix loses power during the summer with fair regularity. Either the grid goes down for some reason or another, or somebody decides taking out a main connexion is a good idea. What do you do? Why, you do what we did in the old days. You go outside, sit under some shade and be quiet. If you're lucky and you have a pool, you sit in it. If not, and you don't have an outside, you draw yourself a nice cool bath and sit in that. If the outage goes on into the night, which it often does, and if you want to honor the history of the region, you wet down some sheets and hang them up under the porch or ramada and let the night breeze bring down the temperature. It's not the most fun thing in the world, and you're right - the primary issue is what is driven by electricity - but it's manageable. We here always refer to residents as those who came here before a/c and those afterwards. And the parts of town reflect what period they were built in. After a/c? No porches to speak of. Before a/c - big wide verandas, sleeping porches, overhangs, ramadas - and summer kitchens out in the back.

The thing about losing power in Iraq is of course analogous to losing power in Chicago. Iraqis any more have no real familiarity with how to live without a/c of some kind - any more than residents of AZ who arrived here in 1999 do. A lot of people are going to die because of it.


GravatarIf you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories.You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories,

or.. um... two pieces of fruit or a granola bar?


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
666
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


Gravatarnearish to Grapeving Mkt?

Closer to central market.


Gravatar“If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving

Is this a fucking joke or what?


Gravatar8 mill guaranteed. Around 1 mill per year base.

Incentives. He wants more.


That ain't much.
billy b - west coast blues


They are 3.5 mill apart.

1 mill on the guaranteed money 2.5 on the incentives.

Cheep Cheep. Cheep.

And they wonder why they have no rings.


GravatarSudden update of Surveillance act

well this isnt nice - but what has been nice in the past 7 years? Get used to it - u dont need a brain. Throw it away - fodder it to starving kids in Africa-do sth useful.


GravatarYes it is


Gravataro porches to speak of. Before a/c - big wide verandas, sleeping porches, overhangs, ramadas - and summer kitchens out in the back.

the sleeping porch... what a wonderful concept....


GravatarCloser to central market.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:40 pm |

another wonderful destination.


GravatarThe thing about losing power in Iraq is of course analogous to losing power in Chicago. Iraqis any more have no real familiarity with how to live without a/c of some kind - any more than residents of AZ who arrived here in 1999 do. A lot of people are going to die because of it.

Yes.

Got no porch or ramada here.


GravatarAnother added bonus to destroying the nation's industrial base is that things like fabric is manufactured overseas and is now costly to buy because of fuel costs. I went to the local fabric store to look into buying fabrics to make a crazy quilt and was stunned at how much gingham, corduroy, and muslim is. And not the fancy stuff either. I wonder when they will go back to selling flour in flour sacks with the printed fabrics.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarRMJ: then there was my fifth floor window overlooking Broadway and 115th St, that was wide open from April until June.

Sleepaway camp in western Connecticut at 12 yo was my first encounter with silence and darkness. It was like being wrapped in black velvet; it was wonderful. And all those stars up there.


GravatarI dunno what's happened, but now the temp is down to 99.5°F.
.


Gravatar“If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving"

somebody is getting paid to do these calculations?


GravatarSee? That beef thang is another reason to get a scooter!
.


GravatarWorth remembering that they need electricity to pump water...


GravatarWorth remembering that they need electricity to pump water...

Yep. I said that earlier.

And to run the water treatment plants.

They are pretty much fucked.


Gravataror four times as much as driving

I call bullshit. The gas burned is only counted towards its carbon footprint but not the carbon load to get that gas to you. Additionally, anyone on an all beef diet probably drives a SUV and isn't going to walk anywhere.


GravatarEnjoy yourself while you can, fy.

I've been in touch with the gentleman who wrote the killfile script.

He's agreed to try to modify it especially to kill YOUR scroll trolls.

Your days here as a pest are numbered.

HAW! HAW! HAW!


GravatarYes, sleeping porches. I saw a picture of one of those in the magazine AMERICAN BUNGALOW. Like camping outside but without bugs. Another thing they used to have was the breeze-way. They were like open air rooms with a weather-proof roof and usually connected the house to the garage. Sitting in one of those while the rain drummed on the roof was wonderful.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarEither vegan bullshit or gas lobby bullshit.


GravatarYes, sleeping porches. I saw a picture of one of those in the magazine AMERICAN BUNGALOW. Like camping outside but without bugs. Another thing they used to have was the breeze-way. They were like open air rooms with a weather-proof roof and usually connected the house to the garage. Sitting in one of those while the rain drummed on the roof was wonderful.

My new house has two porches.

I'm really excited.


Gravatar4Legs, here's a comic strip you'll enjoy.  Granted, some of them are only for ubergeeks, but most of them are hilarious to anyone. 

<a href="http://xkcd.com/archive/">Romance, Sarcasm, Math and Language</a>

I recommend 'In Ur Reality' and 'the difference' for openers.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only.....

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarWorth remembering that they need electricity to pump water...
ProfWombat


If you need electricity to pump water then what you really need is an infrastructure to move the water to the pumping station. And that's the crux of the matter, and the difference between an ancient civilisation and a recent one. Now, Mesopotamia used to have some pretty darned good canals set up to move water, just as the Anasasi set them up here in AZ. I'm not sure tho that those canals still exist, or, if they do, they move enough water to supply current population centers. Generally, since the second war, such geographically sensible infrastructure apparatus were destroyed or superseded by modern systems - which were all powered electrically rather than by gravity or flow. My guess is that the ancient systems no longer are in much use - and that things like known backup wells are wildly insufficient or inaccessible.


GravatarEither vegan bullshit or gas lobby bullshit.

Sounds like oil lobby nonsense.


Gravatarfrom BBC:

Bibilomulas are travelling libraries on the backs of mules in the Venezuelan outback, now equipped with laptops and projectors.

"We want to install wireless modems under the banana plants so the villagers can use the internet," says Robert Ramirez, the co-ordinator of the university's Network of Enterprising Rural Schools.


Gravatar4Legs, apparently the new script doesn't like html.

xkcd.com/archive/


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

How ya, today? Hot enough for ya?
.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarIs that green ho working my side of the street again?

Someone needs to beat his green ass.


GravatarMy guess is that the ancient systems no longer are in much use - and that things like known backup wells are wildly insufficient or inaccessible.

Yep.

Did you see the article on CNN about the villages in India that are going solar?


Gravatar{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}

How're you and the boys?


Gravatar“If you walked instead, it would use about 180 calories. You’d need about 100g of beef to replace those calories, resulting in 3.6kg of emissions, or four times as much as driving"

Indeed, BEEF IS WHAT'S FOR DINNER and the only way humans can replace 180 calories. Been that way since the dawn of time.


GravatarJeffraham, it's actually not that hot here.  We've got  the doors open and fans on but no AC. 


GravatarMELBOURNE, Australia -- Some art experts in Australia are red-faced after a Vincent Van Gogh they said was worth $21 million was proven to be a fake
(snip)
The painting was purchased and brought to Australia by newspaper publisher Keith Murdoch in 1939.

Keith Murdoch is the father of media mogul Rupert Murdoch.
http://www.knbc.com/news/1381332...322/ detail.html
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.


Gravatarmy guess is hillrhc has done any testing on the effect his spam has.


Gravatar4Legs, apparently the new script doesn't like html.

I'm sorry, what?


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...((*)

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarRMJ,

It has been fairly pleasant here in the Hills if you ignore the flooded and impassable roads we have had up here All the rain has really helped keep the temps down. As 4LGS said earlier it has been unusually cool.

I grew up in L.A. without A/C until I was 10 in 1970. Box fans work really well.

therealhellkitty | 08.04.07 - 6:33 pm


Helps if the house is built well.

My apartment house is 70+ years old, but crappy, absorbs heat and cold.

I have friends living in historic homes, with nice thick brick outside walls, so even w/o AC they're not as hot.


Gravatarjust to give you some idea of what uncompetitive electricity costs....I live within the area served by Pedernales Electric Cooperative. There is no other option for power suppliers here. My monthly electric bill on the "level pay plan" is $169.00 per month. This is an all electric house and there are only two of us here. A friend of mine lives in Austin...and pays about $13.00 per month for her electric.


GravatarActually, beef IS what's for dinner in mah house.


Gravatar"Is that green ho working my side of the street again?

Someone needs to beat his green ass.
"

It's in the works!

He'll be SO fucked it woun't be funny.

Well, he won't think it's funny.

The rest of us, though...


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...2

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary
VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarSleeping porch, Ford Hotel, Phoenix, 1914.


Gravatar4Legs, visit http://xkcd.com/archives/

You'll enjoy.  I recommend 'The Difference' and 'In Ur Reality' for starters.


GravatarSallyh: How're you and the boys?

Enjoying the processed air, today! It was 101°F an hour ago.

Otherwise, I've been sleeping my ass off, all day, almost. I'm either dying, or just getting too old to go through all-day walking and standing ordeals like yesterday.
.


Gravatar My monthly electric bill on the "level pay plan" is $169.00 per month. This is an all electric house and there are only two of us here. A friend of mine lives in Austin...and pays about $13.00 per month for her electric.

Okay, that's fucked up.

My bill never goes above $60, even in the summer.


GravatarGood luck Chris
Remember to vote for Hillary

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarAnd during the dog days of summer we have a repeating troll named hill ass.

I can picture it.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...
6666
How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarLobbyists have feelings too, yknow.


GravatarI think I'll vote for HIllary just to piss off the scroll trolls.


Gravatarfourlegsrgood: My bill never goes above $60, even in the summer.

Mine was almost $80, last month, and that's with the thermo set at 82°F. I have that cheap TVA electricity, too! Then again, I have a very leaky condo.
.


GravatarWe have zero choice. We are all electric. We pay about $150 in the summer, $200 in the winter, and about $80 or so in the spring and fall.

We set the thermostat fairly high too. We use the AC to put the house down to 80 in summer time. Heat it to 68 in the winter.


GravatarOtherwise, I've been sleeping my ass off, all day, almost.
_____

You're not the only one. Good thing I'm off this month.


GravatarThe poor lobbyists
Just nurses and teachers and Girl Scouts- according to Hill

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarYes, sleeping porches. I saw a picture of one of those in the magazine AMERICAN BUNGALOW. Like camping outside but without bugs. Another thing they used to have was the breeze-way. They were like open air rooms with a weather-proof roof and usually connected the house to the garage. Sitting in one of those while the rain drummed on the roof was wonderful.
sekmet | 08.04.07 - 6:48 pm


My grandparent's house in Indy had a breezeway and radiant heat. I loved it.


GravatarI think I'll vote for HIllary just to piss off the scroll trolls.
______

Ditto, anything to piss off a scroll troll.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...666

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarHosama, Hosama,

If I could just pronounce Hosama, I'd still have a job.


GravatarMy bill never goes above $60, even in the summer.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Homepage |
08.04.07 - 6:54 pm |

yup, it sure is. The house is 1600 SF and pretty well insulated.  We have an efficient A/C unit and a low consumption washer....so tell me why my water bill should be $120.00 for 3,600 gallons? Aqua TX...has the monopoly on this area.


Gravatarel: Ditto, anything to piss off a scroll troll.

Best way? Use greasemonkey killfile, and set phasers to HEAVY ignore.
.


GravatarYou'll enjoy. I recommend 'The Difference' and 'In Ur Reality' for starters.

Hee.

Love that.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...1

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary

VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only........

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarWe didn't need air conditioning in June. Our electricity/water bill was $90. We turned it on in July, our bill was $140. We have TVA too.


GravatarMy grandparent's house in Indy had a breezeway
______

Grandma's breezeway had a rocking couch in it. In the summer, the only place to be.


GravatarIn New Orleans, the French would build their city houses around a courtyard that usually had a fountain in the middle. They preserved one of these in the Pontalba Apartments. Three stories high, each story has an outside walkway on all sides looking down on the courtyard and large windows that can be opened. I toured it in August and the thing was cool and comfortable because of the thick walls and all that ventilation.


Gravatarthe question I've asked myself over and over the last 6 years is whether the democrats are chickenhearted idiots or just in the bag. It maybe just wishful thinking that keeps me from knowing.


GravatarMost people just ignore him. It actually gets less annoying after a hile. I just scroll down and ignore it like background noise.


Gravatar"Best way? Use greasemonkey killfile, and set phasers to HEAVY ignore."

And soon, we'll use his own words against him!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!


GravatarMine was almost $80, last month, and that's with the thermo set at 82°F. I have that cheap TVA electricity, too! Then again, I have a very leaky condo.

My place is really well insulated, and replacing a few bulbs with compact flourescents has actually made a difference.

GE is making 'em now with "daylight" coating. Bought one today. I guess I'll get used to it.


GravatarI must go put my new big umbrella into the vegetable patch. Discovering that my theory that I can keep things growing happily if I can just keep the direct sunlight off them has made my cucumbers and melons and beans happy and productive.


GravatarIn New Orleans, the French would build their city houses around a courtyard that usually had a fountain in the middle. They preserved one of these in the Pontalba Apartments. Three stories high, each story has an outside walkway on all sides looking down on the courtyard and large windows that can be opened. I toured it in August and the thing was cool and comfortable because of the thick walls and all that ventilation.
sekmet | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #


French Quarter architecture is largely Spanish in design.

Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.


Gravatar4Legs, there are a fair number of cartoons dealing with cats.  Cats and math are never far apart


Gravatarrorschach: Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.

How about expensive Italian ladies' shotgun houses?
.


Gravatar"I just scroll down and ignore it like background noise."
--trifecta

Me too. Just an extra click of the mouse to get pass the nonesense.


GravatarSummertime, blogging to my neighbor's insane laugh which I don't hear all winter.

Keeping cool with one window AC. We close all the rooms except the open kitchen/dining/living room. Stay up late, when it gets cool enough in the rooms to use plain old fans.


Gravatar
sekmet | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm | #




French Quarter architecture is largely Spanish in design.



Cheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.

and the Spanish borrowed it from the Moors.


GravatarVoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only...

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


VoTe GrEen nOt BlUe
Never for Hillary
The lobbying queen only.....

How is the Orange fascist meeting?
Like the good ole days in El Salvador.
Nutroots was a big swindle, where was Jerome.
Look at the votes on Fisa from the nutroots candidates. Take your money and vote with Bush.
If you like Bush you will love Hillary


GravatarMy grandparent's house in Indy had a breezeway
______

Grandma's breezeway had a rocking couch in it. In the summer, the only place to be.
el | 08.04.07 - 6:59 pm


I think they started off with the rocking chairs. Then they put in the older couch and a tv. The 'old folks' would watch their tv in the sitting room and I'd watch in the breezeway. Or just sit and watch/listen to the summer storms.

And in the winter, curl up under the kitchen table and enjoy the radient heat while Grandma was cooking breakfast.


Gravatar
How about expensive Italian ladies' shotgun houses?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:04 pm | #


That lies outside my experience.


GravatarWut sallyh was talking about:

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2.../08/oh- hai.html


GravatarI may just make biscuits and gravy for dinner. It's still to hot to go outside.
.


GravatarAh cats. I forget all winter how LONG they are. They actually triple in size, weather like this.


GravatarHow about expensive Italian ladies' shotgun houses?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian

Often used to give elderly Republican lawyers a Cheney facial.


GravatarEvening, rational people.

I've got Bonus Critter Blogging up, and JohnJS has really outdone himself this time.


Gravatar4Legs, there are a fair number of cartoons dealing with cats. Cats and math are never far apart

Naturally.


GravatarI tried telling the green troll last night that Markos would have to have been nine to participate in the El Salvador death squads.

Like preaching to the pelicans.


GravatarCheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.

Mine's a derringer.


GravatarL.E. seems to be growing at about 5% a day. He's really in a growth spurt, right now.
.


Gravatar4Legs, why thank you


GravatarSummertime, blogging to my neighbor's insane laugh which I don't hear all winter.

Yup. I decided last week the worst thing about no A/C isn't the heat, it's the freakin' noise.


GravatarL.E. seems to be growing at about 5% a day. He's really in a growth spurt, right now.

Feh.

I hope he's not radioactive like Maddie.

She's the biggest fucking kitten of all time.


GravatarCheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.

Mine's a derringer.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:07 pm | #


Last one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.


GravatarIt's a balmy monsoon afternoon here.
74F, without any need for AC, or any other kind of cooling. Since there are already some covered porches, the windows below them can also be left open for anything but the most violent rain storms.

I'm eventually going to surround the most of the house with covered porches. They reduce the heat load on the the house by shading the sun from the walls.
There's a big difference from having to insulate the effects of ambient 100F air, and having the walls reach well into the high 100s.


Gravatar4Legs, why thank you

No, thank you.


GravatarCheap shotgun houses are also designed to maximize airflow.

And hold weddings.


Gravatar
Last one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.


So, a pop gun?


Gravatar4Legs, don't forget to check out the Blogofractal


GravatarDiane C. Barking-Mad,

Publisher is sending SILENT SCREAMS to a big printer for the second printing to do a MASS printing.


Gravatar140 degrees and they have no water in Baghdad.
The children have no water.


what can one say.


GravatarRe: bonus critter blogging
____

the Siamese reminds me of our boat cat, the whole litter born on board and only given away to live aboard boaters.

Mr. El got our kitty (now deceased)while making a passage from Chesapeake Bay to home.


GravatarSo any news from Iraq? Is Bush's spurt working?


GravatarIn some cities you need a license for a shotgun house.


GravatarLast one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.

So, a pop gun?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth



a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-Shot, Range Model Air Rifle house?


GravatarSo, a pop gun?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #


Given the violence that transpired in that place, I reckon a bit more than a pop gun...


GravatarLast one I lived in barely qualified as a musket. Didn't even have a stove in the damn thing.
rorschach, futon djinn | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:09 pm | #
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It's not really down market if it's not mostly held up by tar-paper and some magazine pages stuck to the wall and with a couple of funeral home fans for air-conditioning.


GravatarThe children have no water.
___

Maybe soon available between 2:00 and 2:20 am, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.


Gravatara Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-Shot, Range Model Air Rifle house?
Jim


You'll put you're eye out.


GravatarNo water. Now, possibly going from little electricity to no electricity. Less food.

What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????


GravatarPublisher is sending SILENT SCREAMS to a big printer for the second printing to do a MASS printing.
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point


Yahoo!

Now that's the kind of news I like to hear.

Congrats, DWD!


GravatarThere's a big difference from having to insulate the effects of ambient 100F air, and having the walls reach well into the high 100s.
Doug | 08.04.07 - 7:09 pm |


If I'd realized that I would be in this building for 16 years, I'd have planted a tree on the south and west sides. The south and west sides have no shade, and the heat builds up something awful.

i've put in reflective insulation in my side of the attic, goddess knows how much hotter it'd be inside without it.


Gravatar"Publisher is sending SILENT SCREAMS to a big printer for the second printing to do a MASS printing."
--DWD

Reading that made me happy.


GravatarWhat the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????

We've killed a lot of Muslims. But I think they still outnumber us worldwide, so we have some more work to do.


Gravatarsoon 'we' can make sure the iranian children have no water.


hey who needs a ride to church? pastor's talkin' bout' sancitification today!!!


GravatarWe've killed a lot of Muslims.

Which explains why Bush is so upbeat.

He's always happiest when he's killing something.


Gravatar
We've killed a lot of Muslims. But I think they still outnumber us worldwide, so we have some more work to do.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:13 pm | #


It's hard work.


GravatarWe've killed a lot of Muslims. But I think they still outnumber us worldwide, so we have some more work to do.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth


We also ruined the Bill of Rights.


GravatarI lived in a camelback house which had transoms over the doors for air circulation. Also high ceilings and a front porch.


GravatarWhat the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
____

who needs food, water, and electricity when they have a Constitution.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!


Gravatarwho needs food, water, and electricity when they have a Constitution.

They don't apparently have a government. But:

PURPLE FINGERS, PURPLE FINGERS!!!


GravatarWhat the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
jawbone | 08.04.07 - 7:12 pm | #

Well, GE and Haliburton execs have made a fortune in stock options.


Gravatar"No water. Now, possibly going from little electricity to no electricity. Less food.

What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????"
--jawbone

Really. Makes me heart sick for the citizens of Iraq. Bush&co should pay a price for this.


GravatarIf I call a medium coffee grande, does that meke me an elitist?


Gravataris the long train of abuses and usurpations still going on in the real world?

i'm too far removed from reality to know what is being fed via msm to the masses.


GravatarWhat the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
We have paid half a trillion dollars to Bush's Carlyle Group, Cheney's Halliburton and Rumsfeld's Bechtel. Oh, and Rice's Chevron is in good position to take title to the Iraqi oil fields.


Gravatar"No water. Now, possibly going from little electricity to no electricity. Less food.

What the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????"
--jawbone

Really. Makes me heart sick for the citizens of Iraq. Bush&co should pay a price for this.


Maybe the next National Review cruise can be up the Tigris.


GravatarTiger is still a kitten sort of but he's not getting very big.

He is ferocious though.  He bit me twice this morning.


Gravatar*Gomez thinking about blasting holes in his apartment walls for air circulation*


Gravatarcan the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?


GravatarThanks Mer and Diane. I am kind of chuffed. I am thinking of leaving the classroom and just trying to travel to schools as a presenter on the Holocaust Forgotten and as person to introduce the art and science of writing to kids. . . .

Might be an idea. Might be a nightmare. I dunno. I really do not feel well enough to resume my job and I am not sure of my choices at this point.


GravatarWhat the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
jawbone


accoring to Cal Thomas, Bill Kristol and much of their ilk, we're on the verge of victory. They base this on...

The O'Hanlon-Pollack article!! two well known Democrat Bush critics and war opponents. Even the liberal New York Times could see the value of their irrefutable observations, and so decided to publish them.


GravatarTiger is still a kitten sort of but he's not getting very big.

He is ferocious though. He bit me twice this morning.


He wants cheezburger.


GravatarIf I call a medium coffee grande, does that meke me an elitist?
No, it just means you buy overpriced brown water from a Starbucks.


Gravatarcan the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?
therealhellkitty

ABSOLUTELY


GravatarWell, this is getting depressing. I will distract myself with some TV, and come back, later.
.


GravatarWE IZ WINNING!!
USA AM AHSOM!

the only way we could more winning if we set ourselfs on fire and roll around in gunpowder!

WEEEEEE!!!


Gravatar4LG, I was checking out the kitty pics and saw Maddie (?) feasting on corn on the cob.

I had an Abby who loved corn on the cob so much I couldn't leave it around. One night I forgot about some unused cobs in the kettle, covered. Found it in the morning knocked to the floor, enamel broken and cracked, water on the floor--and the gnawed on cob dragged to a drier place for munching.

Always double checked the corn pot after that....

Teehee.


GravatarI'm extremely lucky that Maddie is NOT ferocious.


Gravatarcan the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?

Why do you think Bush is buying land in Paraguay?


GravatarNo, it just means you buy overpriced brown water from a Starbucks.
George Johnston


Have to. The Krispy Kreme went out of business.


Gravatarcan the president be held responsible for crimes committed in office once he has left office?
therealhellkitty

Don't be surprised if Reid and Pelosi decide to impeach Clinton for Bush's crimes in the name of bi-partisanship.


GravatarCongratulations, DWD.  That's good news


Gravatar4LG, I was checking out the kitty pics and saw Maddie (?) feasting on corn on the cob.

Oh, that's not Maddie, though she'd eat corn if I'd let her.

That came from I Can Has Cheezburger.com


GravatarInstead of impeaching Bush, why don't we just stop paying him?


GravatarI'd have planted a tree on the south and west sides

This winter, I'm going to finish my gray water recovery and rain collection system, and put in two cisterns to hold the resulting water.

I'm thinking I'll be able to drop the house hold water usage by half, and have a lot more water for various purposes, gardening, two stage evaporative cooling that according to some of my simple tests can even cool the house during humid weather, while not raising the humidity inside the house. (basically a water sculpture, that cools one of the cisterns during the nighttime)


(I want to plant some sub-tropical giant bamboo on the south side of the building, in the Tucson area those grow to about 100' tall if you can get enough water on them)


GravatarHave to. The Krispy Kreme went out of business.

Are you serious?


GravatarOh, and Rice's Chevron is in good position to take title to the Iraqi oil fields.
George Johnston | Homepage


They may be disappointed: the Iraqi Parliament took their summer recess before passing that oil law.


GravatarAre you serious?
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork?


Yep. They put in a Chick-Fil-A in its place.


Gravatar(I want to plant some sub-tropical giant bamboo on the south side of
the building, in the Tucson area those grow to about 100' tall if you
can get enough water on them)


Doug |



08.04.07 - 7:22 pm | #

be very careful. Bamboo roots can crack foundations and clog up your water system.


GravatarHave to. The Krispy Kreme went out of business.

Krispy Kremes did not do well in SoCal.  Most of them are gone.  Having tasted their product once, I can understand why.


GravatarMaybe we could move Bush's desk until its in the basement.


GravatarSad isn't it how gullible consumers are to marketing messages... $2 for a medium coffee is too much but $2 for a grande is a fair price even though both are less than 12 ounces...


GravatarInstead of impeaching Bush, why don't we just stop paying him?

That way, the problem...takes care of itself.


GravatarWhy do you think Bush is buying land in Paraguay?
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:20 pm | #

That's why it's important to support our troops. Once they come back and discover how their comrades died to profit boosh and cheney, they may want things, like, oh, exact latitude and longitude.


GravatarKrispy Kremes did not do well in SoCal. Most of them are gone. Having tasted their product once, I can understand why.


Heresy!

Their glazed donuts are divine. Probably too sweet for SoCal though.


Gravatar'course, Bush might burn down the White House if we take away his stapler.


Gravatar4Legs, I think Krispy Kremes are like Sliders--you have to be raised on them to appreciate them.


GravatarI'm gonna have to ask you to go ahead and move your illegitimate administration down to Paraguay...kay? Greeeeeat.


GravatarI hate Starbucks.

It's not just about the price, I just don't like their coffee.

I like Dunkin Donuts, which we don't have here.


Gravatar'course, Bush might burn down the White House if we take away his stapler.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth


Or his rug.


GravatarBuckeye--is the reflective insulation the stuff mentioned in comments awhile ago? I bookmarked the mfr's site, but Google lost all my bookmarks (or I did something I had no idea about...gee, which is more likely???).

Anyway, if it is--or someone else has that info, I'd appreciate it. Thnx.

Oh, and can you imagine what Merkins would do if their overlords could not supply them with electricity and fricken' water? And with temps in only the upper 80's into 90's--not 120 degrees.

There would be blood in the streets--suburban streets outside muni offices and any water/electric company offices.


GravatarTheir glazed donuts are divine. Probably too sweet for SoCal though.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:24 pm |

I was thinking that it might be a regional taste thing. Crispy Cremes are a very Southern thing.


GravatarOr his rug.

It really ties his wars together.


GravatarThey may be disappointed: the Iraqi Parliament took their summer recess before passing that oil law.
Diane C. Barking-Mad

Sad isn't it? Iraqi lawmakers stand up to Bush even though he bombs them while Reid and Pelosi just bend over for him and ask for another.


GravatarOr his rug.

Hell.

He can have his fucking rug. I'll even pay for it.

JUST GO AWAY chimpy.


GravatarOh, no - the size 2 dingdong is back on the Nutrisystem commercials.

She had a baby - chripes, just what we need....more dipshits like her around.


GravatarI like Dunkin Donuts, which we don't have here.

I don't like Starbucks coffee either. Much prefer MacDonalds.


GravatarI was thinking that it might be a regional taste thing. Crispy Cremes are a very Southern thing.


I think you're right.

I love them, but just once in a while.


Gravatar4Legs, have to agree with you on coffee.  I miss Dunkie's.  They got a lot of my business at the Cape


Gravatarcan't stand Starbucks...it all smells burnt to me.


Gravatar'course, Bush might burn down the White House if we take away his stapler.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth


They took his stapler off him in August, 2001.


GravatarDidn't MacDo's make really good coffee for a while, but stopped cause their customers didn't like it?

(I can't go in there, especially in the morning. No will power. God help me I love me some egg mcmuffins)


GravatarNot paying BushBoy won't do any good--his masters will just increase donations to his overseas secret accounts, along with a generous allowance.


Gravatar4Legs, have to agree with you on coffee. I miss Dunkie's.

French vanilla!!


and hellkitty, I agree, Starbucks smells and tastes burnt.


GravatarI like Dunkin Donuts, which we don't have here.

They closed down the Dunkin Donuts in 2002 here and replaced it with the Krispy Kreme which failed.

I am currently donut shop-less.


GravatarInstead of impeaching Bush, why don't we just stop paying him?
Gomez


Wouldn't work.

He'd just ask Bar to raise his allowance.


GravatarSad isn't it? Iraqi lawmakers stand up to Bush even though he bombs them while Reid and Pelosi just bend over for him and ask for another.
George Johnston


Ayup.


GravatarMcDonalds still has good coffee (IMHO)

And I buy just the coffee - they can keep the rest of the grease filled junk.


GravatarOh, and can you imagine what Merkins would do if their overlords could not supply them with electricity and fricken' water? And with temps in only the upper 80's into 90's--not 120 degrees.

Wait, didn't something like that happen in New Orleans, and merkins didn't get upset? Oh right, those were brown people. And Barbara Bush welcomed them to Texas.


GravatarSad isn't it? Iraqi lawmakers stand up to Bush even though he bombs them while Reid and Pelosi just bend over for him and ask for another.
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:26 pm | #

And that's actually a sign of hope. Once the USA becomes full-fledged facist and millions of americans dissapear into concentration camps, people might actually grow some balls.


GravatarKrispy Kremes did not do well in SoCal. Most of them are gone. Having tasted their product once, I can understand why.


Heresy!

Their glazed donuts are divine. Probably too sweet for SoCal though.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:24 pm | #


Agreed.

But I dig Ken's Donuts down on Guadalupe above all others.


GravatarSad isn't it how gullible consumers are to marketing messages... $2 for a medium coffee is too much but $2 for a grande is a fair price even though both are less than 12 ounces...
George Johnston | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:24 pm


At work you can buy the 'fancy' coffee, and pay out the wazoo, or go down to the cafeteria and pay less than a buck, and add the tasty stuff yourself.

Most people seem to go for the expensive stuff.


GravatarI loved me some Dunkin Donuts lemon filled donuts.


GravatarNot paying BushBoy won't do any good
Are you ready for the kicker. Did you know there is a punchline?

Bush gets paid twice as much as Clinton did.


GravatarDidn't MacDo's make really good coffee for a while, but stopped cause their customers didn't like it?

They offer Paul Newman's/Green Mountain Coffee Roasters now.

(I can't go in there, especially in the morning. No will power. God help me I love me some egg mcmuffins)

My secret sin...


GravatarCHICAGO -- The second YearlyKos convention is a show of strength for the new blogging establishment: A parade of Democratic politicians, and almost every presidential candidate, will troop to Chicago today to show their respect for 1,500 bloggers and activists.

And yet the influence of the liberal blogs on the Democratic presidential primary is a shadow of what it was in 2004.

Then, a united blogosphere propelled Vermont Gov. Howard Dean to prominence and struck fear into the hearts of cautious, establishment Democrats. Now, the blogosphere is divided on which candidate to support, and the two leaders -- Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) -- have ignored pressure from online activists to move left on important issues, including the speed of withdrawal from Iraq.

The change: Democratic presidential candidates have started treating the blogosphere like any other special interest. They’ve reached the conclusion that the liberal bloggers are more a community than an ideological movement, more like, say, the Armenian-American community than NARAL.


When it comes right down to it we are nothing more than special interest. We're not special.


GravatarI am currently donut shop-less.
Gomez



The cops there must be miserable.


Gravatarand hellkitty, I agree, Starbucks smells and tastes burnt.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #


Charbucks is teh nastiii.


GravatarBut I dig Ken's Donuts down on Guadalupe above all others.

Those are delicious too.


In case you missed it Rory, I ordered my Fit today.


GravatarWait, didn't something like that happen in New Orleans, and merkins didn't get upset? Oh right, those were brown people. And Barbara Bush welcomed them to Texas.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #



They never shoulda lived in a city below sea level!

/Wingnut


GravatarI pay $1.87 for the medium coffee at Starbucks.


GravatarBush gets paid twice as much as Clinton did.

Well, he does clear more brush than Billy ever did.


GravatarNot paying BushBoy won't do any good--his masters will just increase donations to his overseas secret accounts, along with a generous allowance.
jawbone


Who has more money, Bush or Cheney? I remember Cheney was said to be worth about 25 million at the first term, third in wealth behind Rumsfeld (40-50 mil) and Paul O'Neill (around 250m, IIRC). Now Paulson is in first (Goldman Sachs money, so at least a hundred million).

They don't worry about the eyes of needles, those folks.


Gravatarbe very careful. Bamboo roots can crack foundations and clog up your water system.

Well, two things will work in my favor to prevent this.

1/ the ground is pretty dry in Tucson in spite of the summer monsoon rains. If you don't do anything to capture it, the rain runs off, and goes down stream, due to the kalechi soil.

2./ the bamboo will be planted with plastic and concrete barriers in place just in case during monsoon it starts growing roots and runners quickly enough that I don't catch it right away.

I've been researching this, including talking to people in both the Phoenix and Tucson area who already have groves of this growing. (where I'll be getting starter plants from)


Gravatar
In case you missed it Rory, I ordered my Fit today.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:30 pm | #


Congrats!


GravatarNPR reported tonight that the Rethugs in the House are doing anything and everything they can to disrupt orderly business in the House--to make the Dems look bad!!

And, unless the MCM* actually reports that they will succeed. NPR did a bit toward uncloaking them, but closed with saying the House will probably go along with the Senate in caving to Bush because they don't want the Rethugs to say they're a do nothing Congress.

We need a better press corps. This one is a zombie, walking corpse.

*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media


GravatarBush gets paid twice as much as Clinton did.



For doing a fraction of the work.

And doing it badly.


GravatarI like McDonalds egg on a biscuit.

Luckily there is no McDonald's on my way to work.


Gravatar
When it comes right down to it we are nothing more than special interest. We're not special.


I'm special.


GravatarCongrats!

Thank you. I'm rather psyched.


Gravatarrepublicans in disarray?

via drudge:

Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key

Washington — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.
...
"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. "I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/...3/ newt0803.html


GravatarBuckeye--is the reflective insulation the stuff mentioned in comments awhile ago? I bookmarked the mfr's site, but Google lost all my bookmarks (or I did something I had no idea about...gee, which is more likely???).

Anyway, if it is--or someone else has that info, I'd appreciate it. Thnx...

jawbone | 08.04.07 - 7:26 pm


I bought the first batch from Home Despot, but the rest from here:

http://www.insulation4less.com/


GravatarI think I will open a coffee shop. Chemex with Equal Exchange Columbian brew. I can only serve four or five folks at a time, but I quarantee, you'll be back for more.


GravatarNot paying BushBoy won't do any good--his masters will just increase donations to his overseas secret accounts, along with a generous allowance.
jawbone



He can always hit his Saudi masters up for more money.


GravatarWell, he does clear more brush than Billy ever did.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth


And the press corps blows him for free.


GravatarYou're special, special,
Everyone is special,
Everyone in his or her own way...

I like toddlers, but am grateful not to be required to share Barney with my kids anymore...


GravatarTheir glazed donuts are divine.

As a donut afficianado from way, way back, let me just state for the record: Krispy Kremes sucked big time.

The little town of 16,000 people out in the middle of nowhere had a an absolutely divine little donut shop that would run rings around Krispy Kreme on their worst day.

BTW, if you're in SF, Bob's Donuts on Polk Street are the absolute best. Esp. at around midnight, when they start whipping up the morning's batch...


GravatarGingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key



I wouldn't believe anything that scuzzball had to say.


GravatarWe do have doughnut shops every 20 feet in L.A.  All owned by Thai or Vietnamese bakers.  Who, strangely enough, make awesome doughnuts and croissants.


Gravatar*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media
jawbone


or Million Corpse Media


GravatarWe do have doughnut shops every 20 feet in L.A. All owned by Thai or Vietnamese bakers. Who, strangely enough, make awesome doughnuts and croissants.

Nice.

Not that many donut places here.


GravatarProfWombat!

the Persian food was delicious.  But I'm in the mood for Laotian.  Surely we can find a delicious place...


GravatarOh, no - the size 2 dingdong is back on the Nutrisystem commercials.

She had a baby - chripes, just what we need....more dipshits like her around.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs


I prefer her to the has-been football coach with the trophy wife.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna go make myself a cheezburger.

BBL


K thx bai


GravatarI prefer her to the has-been football coach with the trophy wife.
____league


Oh, Don and Mary Ann?


GravatarRoses will bloom in Goerge Bush's black heart and the Cubs will win the World Series before the United States attains energy inderpendence...


GravatarGingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key

Yeah, but per the MSM, when a publican says it, its like the oracle on high.

When dems say this, they're wusses.


GravatarBut I dig Ken's Donuts down on Guadalupe above all others.



Those are delicious too.





In case you missed it Rory, I ordered my Fit today.


fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? |


Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:30 pm |

What's the cross street for Ken's? They sound worth making a trip for.


GravatarI'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.


GravatarI love me some egg mcmuffins

My secret sin.


You can make yourself a lower calorie, tastier version of this at home;
English Muffins,
poached eggs cooked to the right egg yoke consistency.
some cheese, (Gouda, provolone, or whatever you prefer)
bacon slices.


GravatarOh, thank you, Bucky! Thank you.

Now, you used it in the attic, right? But it can do on walls?

If I already have drywall and insulation, can't add. But in the areas where the insurance company cut out my drywall and insualtion--no problemo. Have to figure out how to do the attic--does it go right on the underside of the roofing boards?

Thanks.


GravatarI stopped eating donuts when I stopped smoking dope. Around mid-seventies. Too sweet for me.


GravatarRoses will bloom in Goerge Bush's black heart and the Cubs will win the World Series before the United States attains energy inderpendence...
ProfWombat


One of these things in gonna happen this year!!!


GravatarRoses will bloom in Goerge Bush's black heart and the Cubs will win the World Series before the United States attains energy inderpendence...
ProfWombat


YAY!!! GO CUBS!!!


Gravatarsallyh: how about French/Cambodian?

http://elephantwalk.com/

No kidding...


GravatarI'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim


No one said they were efficient thieves.


GravatarWe do have doughnut shops every 20 feet in L.A. All owned by Thai or Vietnamese bakers. Who, strangely enough, make awesome doughnuts and croissants.

There's a strong influence of the French in Vietnamese cuisine.

The best beef bourguignonne I ever had came from a little Vietnamese pho shop in SF. Absolutely gorgeous!


GravatarProfWombat, now that sounds beyond what angels eat


Gravatarand hellkitty, I agree, Starbucks smells and tastes burnt.
fourlegsrgood, got pitchfork? | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:29 pm | #

Charbucks is teh nastiii.
rorschach, futon djinn | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 7:30 pm |


I'm not a coffee expert. When I was in Seattle last year, I had a cup from Tulley's, since I can get a Starbucks anywhere.

They put a Starbucks in our main Community college's library. So at the grand reopening, they had free Starbucks. Other than that, I see no need to pay for it.


GravatarSo, is Webb an idiot?

http://www.raisingkaine.com/show...59? diaryId=9735


GravatarYou can make yourself a lower calorie, tastier version of this at home

Where the hell's the fun in that?


GravatarNo one said they were efficient thieves.
George Johnston


Poor Fredo only clocks in at half a million. I thought he was a big time real estate lawyer before Bush put him on the Texas SSC because he didn't drink and beleeves in Jeebus.


GravatarIf science can put a man on the moon why can't it make a spinach salad look and taste like a doughnut?


GravatarI'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim


I've been stealing him blind.


GravatarI know that if the Cubs play anyone other than the Red Sox, I'm rooting for them. I like to imagine Steve Goodman smiling:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ciczbU6I-J8


GravatarYou can make yourself a lower calorie, tastier version of this at home

Where the hell's the fun in that?
NTodd, Special


and how do you get somebody to pass it through your car window without even gettin' off yer lazy ass?

(I am feeling so proud to be an American right now, where at least I know I'm free to get junk food at a drive up window!)


Gravatarmy litle town (Pop 3,497) has a doughnut shop run by a Chinese family. It is in a location where every prior business has failed.
They cook until they are done, sell out of D-nuts and then go home. They must be doing something right.


Gravatarsallyh: only needs your good company, m'dear...


GravatarHey, there's a lot of CATS here.


ROWFF!!!


GravatarSo, is Webb an idiot?

http://www.raisingkaine.com/show...59? diaryId=9735
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 08.04.07 - 7:39 pm | #


No, but he articulates Bush's talking points better than Bush himself. All this talk about "technological updates" is a red herring. The issue boils down to: Do you trust the Executive Branch to oversee wiretapping without court supervision and authorization, or not?

I don't.


GravatarI've been stealing him blind.
Barney

Or is it the compromising photos of you, Bush and Santorum?


GravatarOh, thank you, Bucky! Thank you.

Now, you used it in the attic, right? But it can do on walls?

If I already have drywall and insulation, can't add. But in the areas where the insurance company cut out my drywall and insualtion--no problemo. Have to figure out how to do the attic--does it go right on the underside of the roofing boards?

Thanks.
jawbone | 08.04.07 - 7:37 pm


I used it in the attic, on the roof, not the floor (there's already insulation there). I've taken down the two bats of old insulation I used and put this up instead.

Here's the info on the one I used:

http://www.insulation4less.com/ p...prodex_Ffmf.asp

I'd call the manufacturer and ask questions.


GravatarOr is it the compromising photos of you, Bush and Santorum?
George Johnston


I try not to think of that.


Gravatarmy litle town (Pop 3,497) has a doughnut shop run by a Chinese family. It is in a location where every prior business has failed.
They cook until they are done, sell out of D-nuts and then go home. They must be doing something right.


The fucking Yellow Menace is stealing our donut jobs!


Gravatarwell, it looks as if the scroll troool is gone. wonder if the killfile got him?


GravatarWhat's the cross street for Ken's? They sound worth making a trip for.

therealhellkitty | 08.04.07 - 7:37 pm | #


It's right down by campus, maybe around Dean Keeton? Just south of the Burger King and such.


GravatarNTodd, what, no Dunkie's in your town?


GravatarBBaH: I don't trust the executive branch at this point at all, for any reason, and view any further granting of power to the executive branch as utterly foolish...


GravatarThe fucking Yellow Menace is stealing our donut jobs!


NTodd, Special |


Homepage |
08.04.07 - 7:46 pm | #

well, while they are occupied with that they aren't busy behind the tastee freeze, so there is some advantage to it.


GravatarThe fucking Yellow Menace is stealing our donut jobs!
NTodd, Special


You don wan donut.

Donut bad for you.

Have nice egg roll.


Gravatarwell, it looks as if the scroll troool is gone. wonder if the killfile got him?
therealhellkitty


He's giving his mom a bikini wax.


Gravatar"Have nice egg roll."
--Chinese Guy

Tofu cheaper and better for you.


Gravatarhttp://xkcd.com/95/

For NTodd.


GravatarHe's giving his mom a bikini wax.


Gomez |



08.04.07 - 7:49 pm | #

just so long as he remembers to get her moustache too.


GravatarBBaH: I don't trust the executive branch at this point at all, for any reason, and view any further granting of power to the executive branch as utterly foolish...
ProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 7:48 pm | #



Agreed. It's just so frustrating that the dems allowed themselves to be bullied on this. Chimps approval ratings hover around 30%. Why they give him ANYTHING he wants is beyond me.


GravatarOh, Don and Mary Ann?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs


Turns out that I was unfairly snarky.

Coach Shula's first wife, Dorothy Shula, fought breast cancer for six years. Just before her death in 1991, Coach Shula formed the Don Shula Foundation for the purpose of finding a cure for breast cancer


GravatarThe dems could very well be giving president ghouliani these powers.


GravatarI'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim |


Why, practically destitute.


GravatarFrom "No Child Left Behind" to tax cuts to the Patriot Act, to the Iraq War voting against Chimpie has repeatedly proven to be the sane and prudent thing to do.


GravatarI'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim |

What about Prescott's nazi money?


GravatarTurns out that I was unfairly snarky.

____league


Understandable mistake, since so many of these "successful" men like to dump the woman who was with them on the way up.


GravatarWhat about Prescott's nazi money?
Bjorn,

Bar's not done with it yet.

Actually that's a good point. I wonder if family trusts are included.


GravatarWhat about Prescott's nazi money?
Daddy Warbucks still has it.


GravatarFrom "No Child Left Behind" to tax cuts to the Patriot Act, to the Iraq War voting against Chimpie has repeatedly proven to be the sane and prudent thing to do.
George Johnston


Only if KKKarl does not have any compromising tapes of you or someone you care about.


GravatarWhat about Prescott's nazi money?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi


Poppy and Bar have yet to croaky croaky.


GravatarHave nice egg roll.
Chinese Guy



GOOD egg roll is de-voon!


GravatarNo electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?


GravatarIf america ever discovers tofu, they will wrap it around cheap chocolate, and deep fry it with pork rinds, and sell it in a tastee freeze.


GravatarNo electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
MP


If you can answer that question, you are REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL TIMBER.


GravatarOdds are the Bush family's funded the odd trust or two.

Y'know, you have ten million dollars, you can earn half a million on it yearly, easily, and spend it without touching principal. Not a small hunk of change to reward a career so rich in business achievement as W's...


GravatarSpinoza, yuck.

Just...yuck.

Now I need a vodka tonic to wash that image away.

Has Mrs. Spinoza ever told you how disgusting you are?


GravatarNo electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
Soaring cancer rates and birth defects due to exposure to depleted uranium ammunition.


GravatarPoppy and Bar have yet to croaky croaky.
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 7:55 pm | #

I see Bar's disembodied head in a glass jar screaming Schnel! Schnel! in the back of a limo. In 2073.


GravatarNo electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
MP


Well, we still haven't stolen their oil, so there's still more to come.


Gravatarlooking thru my limited collection of dvd's... have narrowed down my late night viewing to:

something's gotta give
sideways
national treasure

any suggestions? i'm incapable of making a decision.


GravatarWe're the anti-Gunga Din.


GravatarNo electricity and now no water, How could we have possibly fucked these people worse?
MP

If you can answer that question, you are REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL TIMBER.


I wouldn't invade Iraq once. I would invade it twice.
Mitt Romney.


GravatarFokowi, Scifi Saturday Night Original Pictures.

But only if we get eatage.

(Goes to check listings)


GravatarOdds are the Bush family's funded the odd trust or two.


I gather the serious money, at least pre-Carlyle Group, came from great-grandpapa Walker.


GravatarAt least without electricity they don't have to watch pox news.


GravatarIt's a balmy monsoon afternoon here.
74F, without any need for AC, or any other kind of cooling. Si


Lucky thing - it's still 101 to your north. What you all have in your favor as well is your elevation - you're at around 2000ft above sea level and we're at about oh, 2. Maybe three feet. And I'm six foot, so, call it ten feet total if I stand on the curb.


GravatarSo the Senate vote was 60-28. That leaves a lot of votes unaccounted for.


GravatarAt least without electricity they don't have to watch pox news.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi


Or American Idol


GravatarFokowi, forget it.  They're trying to pretend to show a quality movie tonight.

This makes me sad.


Gravatarsallyh: you do live in the country that gave the world the Deep Fried Twinkie, and compounded the gaffe by labeling it a foodstuff...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee...p- fried_Twinkie


GravatarIf america ever discovers tofu, they will wrap it around cheap chocolate, and deep fry it with pork rinds, and sell it in a tastee freeze.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 08.04.07 - 7:57 pm | #


Lookslike the Japanese beat us to it


GravatarHas Mrs. Spinoza ever told you how disgusting you are?

She actually does wonders with tofu. Something about growing up in Korea I guess. I grew up in Ohio and for a long time thought spanish rice was exotic.


GravatarWhat the hell have we accomplished since March of 2003????
jawbone


Why, my dear, we've destroyed the world's most ancient civilisation.

.


GravatarProfWombat, the only good fried food is Ipswich clams. 


GravatarSorry if this got posted earlier, but Greenwald nails it.

Choice passage:

...Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, with revealing symbolism, (have cancelled) their scheduled appearances this morning at Yearly Kos because George Bush ordered them to remain in Washington in order to re-write and expand FISA -- a law which he has repeatedly refused to allow to be revised for years and which he has openly and proudly violated. Congressional Democrats know virtually nothing about how the Bush administration has been eavesdropping on our conversations because the administration refused to tell them and they passively accepted this state of affairs.

The intense rush to amend this legislation means that most of them have no idea what they are actually enacting -- even less of an idea than they typically have. But what they know is that George Bush and Fox News and the Beltway establishment have told them that they would be irresponsible and weak and unserious if they failed to comply with George Bush's instructions, and hence, they comply. In the American political landscape, there have been profound changes in public opinion since September of 2001. But in the Beltway, among our political and media establishment, virtually nothing has changed...


GravatarIf america ever discovers tofu, they will wrap it around cheap chocolate, and deep fry it with pork rinds, and sell it in a tastee freeze.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in


Shove a stick in it and slap Jimmy Dean's name on it somewhere, and I think you're onto something.


GravatarNTodd, what, no Dunkie's in your town?

Hah! Closes is a 25 minute drive.


GravatarHah! Closes is a 25 minute drive.
NTodd, Special | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 8:03 pm | #
Wicked!


GravatarThat's 3 towns away...


Gravatari purposely don't have tv at the lake... so, i'm immune from whatever stimulus you all are having to put up with tonight.

just me and the laptop, cell modem and a few dvd's.


Gravatarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee...p- fried_Twinkie
ProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 8:02 pm |


Fried Ice Cream


Gravatari'm too far removed from reality to know what is being fed via msm to the masses.
fokowi at lake cabin hungover

Lucky and wise...Has we larned not to shive a git?


GravatarThere's a Sci Fi flick halfway over, and one starting at 9:00 called "Bram Stoker's Way of teh Vampire"


GravatarHer friends and her bosses and even the officers who arrested her say Heyward had been trying her best: working long hours and providing for her children.

I'm a single mom. A few years ago when work was really really intense, I had a nightmare, very realistic, that I'd had to go some where on assignment, and had to leave my 9 year old on her own for three days.

The pressure is really intense, if you don't have backup.


GravatarWhen I went grocery shopping earlier today, I had a sudden craving for liver and onions.

Now, as I contemplate fixing dinner, that craving has completely disappeared.

I hate when that happens.


Gravatar...uh, oh. We're in trouble. Something's come along and burst our bubble.

.
.
.


GravatarThere was a lovely, quirky Bill Forsyth movie called 'Comfort and Joy', that resolved its plot around the existence of fried ice cream...


GravatarProfWombat, the only good fried food is Ipswich clams.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere


Feh. The only good fried food is my own, superlative, fried chicken. You have not lived til you've tasted it, and it's unlikely that you will, seeing as I haven't made it in ten years. There must be an occasion, you see. Maybe if Our Al announces - then....


GravatarEAT MOR CHIKIN!!!


Gravatarfor all of you Meerkat lovers I understand that there is a new season starting soon. other than the umpreengazillionth running of the Godfather, it seems to be the only  thing on the tube these days


GravatarHey Atrios, why can't you get Washlet to advertise here?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

Happy butts!


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, when our Al announces--and I believe he will--I will rush to Phoenix and will expect your delicious fried chicken.


GravatarTCM: Bridge on teh River Kwai


GravatarDiane!
I believe it's time for the secret family summer dish.... YOU KNOW THE ONE.....


GravatarI'm a single mom. A few years ago when work was really really intense, I had a nightmare, very realistic, that I'd had to go some where on assignment, and had to leave my 9 year old on her own for three days.

The pressure is really intense, if you don't have backup.


Fuck. Don't tell Tom Tacredo. He will have you deported. In his view, everything in america is wonderful xcpt for things outside his fascist bubble.


GravatarI don't eat an animal's organs, and I prefer not to eat an animal who is stil kinda carcassy at meal time.


GravatarY'know, you have ten million dollars, you can earn half a million on it yearly, easily, and spend it without touching principal.

You can do very well on half a mil as well. But there's a real difference between living on interest after a lifetime spent hardscrabble and living on interest after a lifetime spent as a wastrel. It's not the money - it's what was done to produce it.


GravatarI believe it's time for the secret family summer dish.... YOU KNOW THE ONE.....
GWPDA, Roving Historian


Nooooooooo!

OMG.

Now you've done it.


Gravatar...don't ever do the bills drunk. There's no rational-check on your emotions.


GravatarI crave Indian food. It's times like this I wish I lived in the great big city....


GravatarNJN public TV, metro NYC area and NJ, airing Acuna, an Irish music group. Ethereal type, but nice so far.


GravatarInsurgents doesn't do justice to what goes on there. It's murders, criminals, psychopaths, sociopaths and fanatics who are ripping Iraq up.

As the car bombings started a suicider drove his carbomb under a gasoline tanker with a school bus sitting right next to it. Dozens of school kids were blown up or burned to death. It's pretty hard to top that for sheer insanity.

We in the reality community learned it would be bad but I doubt many imagined how bad.


GravatarGWPDA: the difference, seems to me, is moot in someone with the utter lack of self-insight and demonstrated sociopathy of our president...


GravatarIt's not the money - it's what was done to produce it.


...and then there the borrow-and-spend scenario.


Gravatar...don't ever do the bills drunk. There's no rational-check on your emotions.
Darryl Pearce

I always drink while doing the bills. And listen to Harry Shearer via the web.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, when our Al announces--and I believe he will--I will rush to Phoenix and will expect your delicious fried chicken.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere


Bring Jameson's. And some of those nice big cheap doggie biscuits from Basha's.
.


GravatarInsurgents doesn't do justice to what goes on there. It's murders, criminals, psychopaths, sociopaths and fanatics who are ripping Iraq up.

Negroponte's work.


Gravatari think i'll go with sideways...

but, i'm looking forward to national treasure II when it comes out. the first one is quite clever, actually.

plus diane kruger is very hot.


GravatarIt's murders, criminals, psychopaths, sociopaths and fanatics who are ripping Iraq up.


...four million displaced Iraqi's.


GravatarGWPDA: the difference, seems to me, is moot in someone with the utter lack of self-insight and demonstrated sociopathy of our president...
ProfWombat


he's aware enough, on some level, to have needed to create a delusion of divine-right entitlement to protect himself from having to address his inadequacies.


GravatarGWPDA: the difference, seems to me, is moot in someone with the utter lack of self-insight and demonstrated sociopathy of our president...
ProfWombat


The difference is implicit. Shrub's sociopathy is the definition of how his ilk 'earns' its money.

Pfui. Arthur wants his dinner and I want to make sure he has it.


Gravatarbut, i'm looking forward to national treasure II when it comes out. the first one is quite clever, actually.

I have Pan's Labyrinth from Netflix, which I've never seen but I'm feeling lazy, so it may be Harold and Maude off the DVR, which I've seen a thousand times, or the Godfather, which I've a bajazillion times, which as someone said earlier is almost certainly on somewhere (and I have the DVD).


Gravatar...four million displaced Iraqi's.
Darryl Pearce


Essentially that nation's professional class made an exodus, I've heard it said.


GravatarEssentially that nation's professional class made an exodus, I've heard it said.

...wouldn't be the first Trail of Tears left in the wake US hegemony.


GravatarLooks like they were better off before us.

Democratic Shirts


GravatarWhen they say "eat the rich", it's the Bushes they mean.


GravatarArthur: how about a little friendly butt sniffing and newspaper munching? And my humans left a full bag of tortilla chips where we can get 'em...


GravatarI have Pan's Labyrinth from Netflix, which I've never seen but I'm feeling lazy...

Save it for later, then.

Superb movie... not necessarily enjoyable to watch.

Worth it, but not when you're not prepared to engage with it fully.

YMMV.


GravatarOT, but extra-special animal shelter blogging!


GravatarI'm not too worked up about that FISA cavination. Does anybody think Bush would have abided by either the Dem version of the law, or the one they are passing? Does anybody think their international communations are free from being monitored? Hell, I assume data from my domestic communications are showing up in a govt disk drive somewhere.


GravatarBBaH: I don't trust the executive branch at this point at all, for any reason, and view any further granting of power to the executive branch as utterly foolish...
ProfWombat

I think it's safe to assume we've all been data-mined already, so my response is to stop volunteering ANY information to anybody for any reason, even the "demographic" folx like Time-Warner.

The older the data is, the more useless it is...

Gotta go oil up mah shredder...


GravatarI crave Indian food.

That's a great idea. I think I'll go for some Tandori.


GravatarA couple of days ago, a teenager on long island died from carbon monoxide poisoning. his family's electricity was cut off for nonpayment, his dad borrowed a generator from work and evidently it leaked fumes. rest of the family got very sick but are apparently okay.


GravatarY'know, you have ten million dollars, you can earn half a million on it yearly, easily, and spend it without touching principal.

If you're doing that (spending all of the interest you earn off the money yearly) then you're losing money to inflation.

That said, actually managing to burn through $500,000 annually (assuming you are healthy) when you have the kind of money where you're not worrying about a mortgage or car payments would be incredibly lavish spending.

Especially when the education expenses for your children are probably paid through trusts that were set up years ago.


GravatarThe older the data is, the more useless it is... - radar -

good point.


GravatarDoes anybody think Bush would have abided by either the Dem version of the law, or the one they are passing?

Congressional imprimateur on Executive Branch hijinks means something. Or used to anyway.


GravatarInteresting post and comments at FDL:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/...ter/#more- 10728


GravatarSave it for later, then.

Superb movie... not necessarily enjoyable to watch.

Worth it, but not when you're not prepared to engage with it fully.

YMMV.
SteveLG | 08.04.07 - 8:19 pm | #

I found it an incredible movie to watch. Outstanding visually. But it's certainly not a popcorn flick.


GravatarHey, dave™©, please contact me at wileybad@msn.com re: a biz idea...


GravatarBas-O-Matic: my guess is that Jenna's and Barbara's educational expenses aren't a big consideration in W's financial planning...


GravatarThat's a great idea. I think I'll go for some Tandori.
Doug |

Would you bring me some roghan josh, a tandoori chicken appetizer, three garlic naan, and some of that spinach and lentil and/or potato stuff?

I'll pay you back on Tuesday


Gravatarmeanwhile, Dimocrats and their fellow-traveling trust-fund-sco-twits scold the American people schoolmarmishly:

'you should drink chlorinated/floridated tap water, me lovelies, because plastic bottles, yes PLASTIC BOTTLES, THREATEN YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND THE PLANET!"

[...hilarity...]


GravatarAw...

Trademark Dave, those are great pics. It's just a good thing I'm several hundred miles away.


Gravatarlubyanka... why are you here? seriously.


GravatarSave it for later, then.

Superb movie... not necessarily enjoyable to watch.

Worth it, but not when you're not prepared to engage with it fully.

YMMV.
SteveLG | 08.04.07 - 8:19 pm | #

I found it an incredible movie to watch. Outstanding visually. But it's certainly not a popcorn flick.
Bas-O-Matic


Thanks. pretty much what I was thinking. It's definitely a popcorn flick kind of evening.


Gravatarfok,

because you nutroots are, wittingly or unwittingly, very very funny!


GravatarCongressional imprimateur on Executive Branch hijinks means something. Or used to anyway.
MP


Now it only means something when a Dem is president, especially when he gets a blowjob. After all, Dems don't know their place and trash the beltway village.


Gravatar'you should drink chlorinated/floridated tap water, me lovelies, because plastic bottles, yes PLASTIC BOTTLES, THREATEN YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND THE PLANET!"

[...hilarity...]


Yeah, that's hilarious, dipshitz haderach.


GravatarLubyanka... why are you here? seriously.
fokowi at


Magda had to take a break from lubing and yanking, 'cause it was starting to hurt.


Gravatarmost likely your funniness in unwitting, as is your wont


GravatarI watched


GravatarQ of the Day:

why can't liberals be more earnest and humorless?


GravatarCongressional imprimateur on Executive Branch hijinks means something. Or used to anyway.

I am slightly worried that Webb thinks he is living a Tom Clancy novel and voted for further presidential powers so that when he gets elected president he can pull a weapon out of his pants and shoot Osama bin Laden in front of the Lincoln Memorial after which an Ayn Rand girl offers to make him forget the pain of killing muslims.


GravatarThere is bottled water that is just municipal tap water, especially from the soda giants (aquafina & dasani). The first thing Coke did when it opened a plant in India was to try to sell the local village's own water to it at a huge upmark.


Gravatarlubyanka... why are you here? seriously.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated


To convince herself that she is condescending. A fate she has met many times in her life.


Gravatarbecause you nutroots are, wittingly or unwittingly, very very funny!
Lubyanka | 08.04.07 - 8:28 pm | #

ok. i'm cool with that. however, since empathy isn't usually a strong suit for anyone with a passion for something... why don't you try a different approach of engagement in here?

you know, like maybe make a comment that makes us think, perhaps. your MO seems to be that you just want to provoke an emotion. tell me i'm wrong.


GravatarBas-O-Matic: my guess is that Jenna's and Barbara's educational expenses aren't a big consideration in W's financial planning...
Josie Wombat | 08.04.07 - 8:25 pm | #


Trust me Barb and George senior set up a trust to pay for pre-school through college the second Jenna and not Jenna were born.

And I watched Hero on our new HD set last weekend. It really is one of the prettiest movies I've ever seen (even if it is rather thinly veiled totalitarian propoganda.)

The fight between Snow and Moon in the ginko grove is incredible.


GravatarOh, lawzy. I just et a WHOLE bunch of pasta shells.
.


GravatarI know that if the Cubs play anyone other than the Red Sox, I'm rooting for them. I like to imagine Steve Goodman smiling:

Steve Goodman
ProfWombat


Hey, I'm a White Sox fan, and I'm rooting for them. The Red Sox won, the White Sox won, it's the Cubbies' turn. Lou Piniella is a great coach, and if it's good for Chicago, it's OK by me.


Gravatar...those are great pics. It's just a good thing I'm several hundred miles away.

Not really!

Actually, we sent one cat home with a new family today, and another was supposed to go this afternoon (after I'd left). Also several dogs, but who cares about them?

The little black cat I've named "Sabrina" is the one I'm kind of worried about. She was socialized poorly and has apparently bitten and scratched some of the staff, though I've played with her a few times and haven't had any problems. There's some talk she might be reclassified "unadoptable," which means they'll try to place her with a rescue group. But I think she just needs the right home - one without young kids, preferably...


GravatarI'll be damned. According to Open secrets, Bush is only worth between 10 and twenty million, and poor Condi barely qualifies as a millionaire.
Jim

It will take a decade to track down the billions that gang has scimmed off the war, etc, and stuffed into off shoar accounts.


Gravatarhttp://www.wickedthemusical.com/



Hecate will like this, I think.


GravatarJP what did you put on them?


GravatarGnawing on kittehs just wasn't filling enough.
.


GravatarReid's "only temporary" explanation of the vote is unspeakably cowardly, IMO. You either is or you ain't for the Constitution. They ain't no "temporary" about it.


GravatarQ2 of the day:

can "progressives"' earnestness and humorlessness actually be an inadvertent source of funniness?

[hint: absolutely!..]


GravatarThe first thing Coke did when it opened a plant in India was to try to sell the local village's own water to it at a huge upmark.

It's only a matter of time before they tax marital sex and oxygen.


Gravatartherealhellkitty: JP what did you put on them?

'mater sauce, from Aldi, of course! And grated parm.
.


GravatarWhat age are we living in?


GravatarI have a beautiful nutsac. And someday I'm going to show it to real live girl!!

[hint: Not my mother or a 'pro']


Gravatar[hint: absolutely!..]
Lubyanka


Again, notice the attempt at condescension.


Gravatarlubyanka... why are you here? seriously.
fokowi at lake cabin satiated





Why are ANY trolls here?


GravatarI wonder what kind of cocktail party sell out Duncan is at tonight? Probably having rumaki and gin rickies with Joe Klein


GravatarBas-O: undoubtedly; that's how those sort of folks work...


GravatarBy posting here, the trolls reveal how utterly bereft of meaning their pathetic little lives are. You might contemplate for a moment the sadness and emptiness of their existences and then you might thank whatever deity or lucky stars you have that unlike the trolls you have a fulfilling and meaningful life.


Gravatar[hint: absolutely!..]
Lubyanka

Again, notice the attempt at condescension.
cosmic tumbler


And notice the truncated ellipse. Trademark or Brian Hardig in his liberal jeenyus manifestation. Or infestation.


Gravatar'mater sauce, from Aldi, of course! And grated parm.

.


Jeffraham Prestonian |


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08.04.07 - 8:37 pm | #


When I feel better I think I'll make some white clam sauce...mmmmm.


Gravatarthere's old Dave, masquerading as dear old Lubyanka...


GravatarNever ceases to amaze me how rightards call US "humorless".

I guess anything that isn't mean-spirited or condescending isn't funny to conservatoids.


GravatarThe Age of Treason


GravatarSomeone just died from a sudden desert flood at 7 falls near Sabino Canyon.



A picture showing what that place looks like.
http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/ ...res_904671.jpeg


Gravatarterry,

progressive earnestness is a humor-machine!


GravatarBBL.


GravatarOh, we keep totally forgetting to do this, but the new electro-indie hotness we're addicted to is FREEZEPOP, Bostonian minimalist dance in the general ball park of Lali Puna and Ladytron. Check youtube for these excellent songs: "I Am Not Your Gameboy," "I Am A Bike [Thief]," "Super Sprode," "Tender Lies," and "Less Talk More Rokk."


Gravatar
And yet the influence of the liberal blogs on the Democratic presidential primary is a shadow of what it was in 2004.

Then, a united blogosphere propelled Vermont Gov. Howard Dean to prominence and struck fear into the hearts of cautious, establishment Democrats. Now, the blogosphere is divided on which candidate to support, and the two leaders -- Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.) -- have ignored pressure from online activists to move left on important issues, including the speed of withdrawal from Iraq.

The change: Democratic presidential candidates have started treating the blogosphere like any other special interest. They’ve reached the conclusion that the liberal bloggers are more a community than an ideological movement, more like, say, the Armenian-American community than NARAL.

Who wrote this?


GravatarA picture showing what that place looks like.

Spectacular!


GravatarTerryC: we don't go around calling our friends by affectionate nicknames like 'Turd Blossom', for instance. Jeez. How uptight can you get? Must be the Chardonnay...


GravatarI guess anything that isn't mean-spirited or condescending isn't funny to conservatoids.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs


They always require an enemy (preferably powerless), and their humor always requires a recipient of vitriol (preferably powerless).


GravatarThe change: Democratic presidential candidates have started treating the blogosphere like any other special interest. They’ve reached the conclusion that the liberal bloggers are more a community than an ideological movement, more like, say, the Armenian-American community than NARAL.

Who wrote this?


Thomas Macaulay?


GravatarDemocratic candidates are ignoring the blogosphere just like they ignore America, because their Owners are their only real special interest. That's no fault of the blogosphere, far from it.


GravatarWe can only hope to be as funny as Dennis Miller.


GravatarThe Apotheosis of Nutroot Power:

Dean after his defeat in Iowa:

"...and we're going to Poughkeepsie and we're going to Ponca City, Oklahoma, and we're going to Truth or Consequences New Mexico, and we're, going to eeeerrrooyyaaaaaarrrrrrgh..."


GravatarShrub couldn't have acted more like a confused bully who just got hit in the snout, after 9/11. Just swinging wildly around, who gives a shit who gets in my way.


GravatarWe can only hope to be as funny as Dennis Miller.

Dennis Miller being funny is like Charles Dahmer being a food critic.


GravatarDid any trolls go to YearlyKos?


GravatarWe can only hope to be as funny as Dennis Miller.
Bjorn,a

Nancy Pelosi's ankles are thicker than the tension on the set of I Love Lucy when Billy Crawley had lost a trifecta and Desi had just come out of Vivian Vance's dressing room with a size twelve corset stuck to his two tone sports coat.

/Delivered in a nasally sneer with a shaking head and memories of what might have been.... I hate Adam Sandler I hate him!!!


Gravatar[more..hilarity...]


Gravatar"...and we're going to Poughkeepsie and we're going to Ponca City, Oklahoma, and we're going to Truth or Consequences New Mexico, and we're, going to eeeerrrooyyaaaaaarrrrrrgh..."

So you think he should've just given up and not try to fire up the people who worked hard for him?


Gravatar[more..hilarity...]

Yeah, Brian, you're a fucking barrel of laughs.


Gravatarlubyanka is taking the quick path of the trool.

1. insult the crowd.
2. engage in idiotic posting.
3. devolve into non sequitur.
4. flameout.

a short parabola of slime.


Gravatar I hate Adam Sandler I hate him!!!


Adam Sandler is like Ellen DeGeneres without a dick.


GravatarNancy Pelosi's ankles are close to 70 years old. Seems to me that in the universe of 70 year olds, her appearance holds up quite well...


GravatarWow, Freezepop is a Keytar band. Are Keytars the new black?

BTW, so far "Less Talk More Rokk" is just OK. Nothing to write home about.

Book of Love was doing this stuff a lot better ca. 23 years ago. (and their vocalists, could, like, sing)


GravatarComment by Lubyanka blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

Killfiled the wanker two days ago.


Gravatarlubyanka...

i gave you the opportunity to show us that you actually have an original thought in your head.

that was easy.


GravatarAdam Sandler doesn't give me a rash..he is a rash.


Gravatar Billy Crawley had lost a trifecta and Desi had just come out of Vivian Vance's dressing room with a size twelve corset stuck to his two tone sports coat.

I read once where Vivian Vance and William Frawley couldn't fucking stand each other.


GravatarNancy Pelosi's ankles are close to 70 years old. Seems to me that in the universe of 70 year olds, her appearance holds up quite well...

A lot of soldiers under George Bush have no ankles any more. And I have never heard of a discussion of Eisenhower's or Reagan's ankles. This kind of garbage is fucking noise where we are too distracted to recognize the signal.


GravatarNTodd:

Re Dean's argh speech: these were supposedly Democrats in a Democratic primary; why would they need bucking-up?

Wait, unless they were actually naive nutroots who've never known adversity...

There, that could be it..


GravatarI read once where Vivian Vance and William Frawley couldn't fucking stand each other.
MP


They all hated each other. My favorite story is one day Lucy was bitching and at every body and Vivian Vance said "I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but Desi already did that today"


GravatarTo the trolls..

We know you're a troll after your first post.

Now we just killfile you.

Go back to Little Green Penises.


Gravatarspinoza: you're a level deeper than me, and, of course, entirely correct...


GravatarLucy was a bob hope style publican.


GravatarTerryC: we don't go around calling our friends by affectionate nicknames like 'Turd Blossom', for instance. Jeez. How uptight can you get? Must be the Chardonnay...
ProfWombat

You said it, Crazylegs.


GravatarI have greasemonkey installed but how do I get the killfile to work? it was there when I first installed it but now it's gone.


GravatarSinging is definitely not cool, unless you're doing it ironically. Newblack is nerdy monotone talking.


Gravatar
I
always drink while doing the bills.

It's the only way to go.


Gravatardrinking and doing the bills... that is a great idea!!

Democratic Shirts


Gravatartrhkitty:

put a blindfold on whenever those nasty trolls threaten your cocoon!


Gravatar Sudoku Sally


Gravatartrhkitty:

eeeek! a troll!!


GravatarFreezepop's song "Parlez vous freezepop" is basically Kraftwerk with twice the pretention and none of the atmosphere. Remind me again why I should be listening to this and not the real stuff from 30 years ago?


GravatarHey Deacon Blues!

I had NO opportunities to indulge my Sudoku habit while at Cape Cod.

I did, however, make a lot of grilled cheese sammiches for my nieces and nephews.


GravatarSudoku is habit forming...


GravatarAnd Lubyanka sounds like some kind of pinko commie prevert name anyway.


GravatarVodka goes good with grilled cheese sammys.


GravatarFORT CAMPBELL, Kentucky (AP) -- A soldier convicted of rape and murder in an attack on an Iraqi teenager and her family was sentenced Saturday to 110 years in prison.

[snip]

He will be eligible for parole after 10 years.

.


GravatarProfWombat, you're telling me.

Spent half the day catching up


Gravatartrhkitty:



eeeek! a troll!!


Lubyanka |



08.04.07 - 8:59 pm | #

you are merely a tiresome idiot. I'd prefer to not have to scroll past your drivel. If I can block it I will.


GravatarSudoku is habit forming...
ProfWombat

Oh, yes...


GravatarProf Wombat-

This has always been a dialogue. And I have learned enormously from your Voltaire- or Montaigne-like compressed essays. I listen with care to every post of yours I stumble upon. You wake me, not to to important issues. Most of us know what those are. You provide new ways of thinking. (If it were not so late I could find better ways to phrase this. I spent all day writing a syllabus, doing some shopping and trying to figure out how to do some experiments.)


Gravatar...what is this "thirty years ago" you speak of?


GravatarOoooooh! Shallots pickled in red wine vinegar are teh pretty!


GravatarYou know what pisses me off? Some sudokus require you to guess to solve.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, not only pretty, but delicious.

And yes, I'll bring a case of Jameson's, and a huge container of Basha's doggie biskies.


GravatarGomez:

"Lubyanka" is the name of the KGB prison in central Moscow where thousands of anti-Soviet political dissidents were imprisoned and/or executed. Lubyanka is a symbol of the total power of the State over individuals, something you leftist twats crave.

Gomez, can we assume you went to public school, so you have no knowledge of the evil of "Lubyanka"?


GravatarProfWombat, don't let Spinoza fool you.  He likes fart jokes as much as any 6 year old boy


Gravatar...what is this "thirty years ago" you speak of?
the hydrated evildoers


Fond...Fond...Auff De AutoBahn...


GravatarSaw this happy news on the news feed monitor in the elevator.

There's a fucking TV news monitor in the elevator?
.


GravatarArthur: how about a little friendly butt sniffing and newspaper munching? And my humans left a full bag of tortilla chips where we can get 'em...
Josie Wombat


Josie, my dear - wouldn't you really prefer some nice pate and a bit of caviare? I have the keys to the wine cabinet as well...
.


Gravatarspinoza: you honor me; thank you so much. Always a pleasure...


Gravatarbtw Lubyanka is a girls name.
.


GravatarLubyanka is a symbol of the total power of the State over individuals, something you leftist twats crave.

Gomez, can we assume you went to public school, so you have no knowledge of the evil of "Lubyanka"?
Lubyanka | 08.04.07 - 9:05 pm | #


Incoherent moron.


GravatarIf a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?


GravatarFor the final segment of my Freezepop review: "Super Sprøde" was OK. Kind of cute i guess. Still, I'd rather listen to Journey. Better yet, a Boston band that actually innovated: the Cars.


GravatarIf a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?

God, I hope not.


GravatarIf a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?


Gomez |



08.04.07 - 9:08 pm | #

a gurgling strangling noise.


GravatarIf a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?
Gomez

Please don't feed the trolls. Thank you.


Gravatarthe total power of the State over individuals

AT&T thanks you for making your phone records so easy to deliver to HomeSec.


Gravatarf a troll wanks in the forest, does it make a sound?

God, I hope not.

Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 08.04.07 - 9:08 pm | #

Yeah, the forest goes echhhh...


GravatarTrolls can be 'girls'.

.


GravatarRe Dean's argh speech: these were supposedly Democrats in a Democratic primary; why would they need bucking-up?

Because their guy lost, you dipshit. Jesus fucking christ, do you work hard at being an obtuse asshole or does it come naturally?


GravatarStill, I'd rather listen to Journey.

I always carry an icepick just in case someone plays Journey. Either for the person who plays it, or for my own eardrums.


GravatarPlease don't feed the trolls. Thank you.
Deacon Blues


They call Alabama the Crimson Tide....


GravatarOh my god look at the time! And I haven't had a martini yet! Coming right up, a pitcher of Bombay Sapphire martinis with Meyer lemon. Stirred, not shaken. brb


GravatarTrolls can be 'girls'.

.
agave |


We determined last night that Lubyanka is a young girl suffering precocious puberty. All that mixed up hormone stuff you know.
.


GravatarThey call Alabama the Crimson Tide....
Gomez

This is the day of the expanding man...


Gravatarror:

Play Journey--Go To Jail..or be dropped off the nearest cliff


GravatarA good fart joke is not to be sneezed at.

Boy, that's a mixed metaphor...

Went to public schools in New York City right 'til college. There were at last count, only seven Nobel and five Pulitzer prizes awarded to my high school's graduates, so I guess they weren't very good...


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, not only pretty, but delicious.

And yes, I'll bring a case of Jameson's, and a huge container of Basha's doggie biskies.

Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere


'enkew, Sallyh. Have you seen my cucumber success? Shallots are not the only thing to be pickled....


GravatarAtrios is always so "Glass Half Empty."

No electricity in Iraq, sure.

But shitloads of opium in Afghanistan! "Spoon Half Full!"


Gravatarwhat is this "thirty years ago" you speak of?
the hydrated evildoers


this


GravatarI find myself strangely adverse to commenting tonight. Maybe it's the four martinis. Maybe it's just being stubborn. Whatever it is, good night, all you good people.


Gravatar...Drink Scotch whiskey all night long
And die behind the wheel...


GravatarThere were at last count, only seven Nobel and five Pulitzer prizes awarded to my high school's graduates, so I guess they weren't very good...
ProfWombat |


Oh yeah! Noam Chomsky, Doug Feith, Larry Fine (yes one of the 3 stooges) and yours truly all graduated from the same high school.
Our school motto is,
"Yeah, yeah. I'm a genius, you're a genius, we're all fucking geniuses."
.


GravatarGWPDA: that's a hell of a cucumber. (I hereby demonstrate my elevated sensibility by not letting the jokes write themselves. I'm better than that.)


GravatarMy high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.


GravatarIf you live in California's 14th, your congresswoman, Anna Eshoo, just delivered a very nice, concise explanation of why anyone who votes for this FISA compromise does so in direct contravention of the founding principles of this country.


GravatarI read somewhere that all of the members of Rush and Saga graduated from the same high school. Or was that Rush and Men Without Hats? Or maybe Triumph? Red Rider? Anyway, Rush and one of those other Canadian bands...


Gravatarlubyanka's redeeming quality is that he/she/it really does help one understand how fucking stupid the people are that we are in disagreement with regarding what the founders had in mind when they created this experiment.

oh yeah... and, proof that neanderthals actually did leave some dna in the gene pool...


GravatarMy high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.

Who the fuck cares? Who here went to the same school as Erin Grey?


GravatarAAhhhhh...that first electric shiver of pleasure


GravatarGWPDA: that's a hell of a cucumber. (I hereby demonstrate my elevated sensibility by not letting the jokes write themselves. I'm better than that.)
ProfWombat


Sometimes a cucumber is only a cucumber. In this case, it's an Armenian cucumber and actually does represent something. I NEVER GREW A CUCUMBER BEFORE IN THIS EFFING CLIMATE! I have modified my methodology and voila! Cucumbers, quite a lot of them. Also melons.

This means I shall be pickling until my findgers are all wrinkly. And that, inshallah, my produce will be stored, kept and shared! I'm thinking now of putting in potatoes. Maybe another peach tree. And I need to move the Anna Apple and put it into the ground as well.


Gravatarlubyanka's redeeming quality is that he/she/it really does help one understand how fucking stupid the people are that we are in disagreement with regarding what the founders had in mind when they created this experiment.

Also, how someone who once read a Tom Clancy novel can convince themselves they have a deep and rare understanding of the history of the Soviet Union.


GravatarWe resent that.


Gravataroh yeah... and, proof that neanderthals actually did leave some dna in the gene pool...

Fuck you.


GravatarTonight on Disney

After moving from New York City to suburban New Jersey, a teen (Lindsay Lohan) tries to regain her popularity by nabbing the lead in the school play. Innocuous Disney fluff. Megan Fox, Adam Garcia, Alison Pill, Glenne Headly.


GravatarI have modified my methodology and voila! Cucumbers, quite a lot of them. Also melons.

Cucumbers and melons. Your tranny garden is against God and Nature.


GravatarMrs. Blues went to Burbank HS (Calif) with Tim Burton. She says he was strange.


GravatarAAhhhhh...that first electric shiver of pleasure
Deacon Blues |


You rat! Now I have to go get something. Back in a bit.
.


GravatarI owe my brethren a satisfying beverage.


Gravatarand here lubya was saying this was a humorless room... good stuff.


GravatarMy high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.

Fucky anyone named Gil


GravatarMy high school produced not only me, but also Gil Gerard, aka Buck Rogers.
rorschach, futon djinn


I think I went to high school with the guy that went "Biddy Biddy Biddy"


GravatarYikes I leave and it's an all-troll thread.


GravatarOn BookTV/c-span2 now -

After Words: Connie Schultz talked about her memoir ...and His Lovely Wife: A Memoir from the Woman Beside the Man, published by Random House. In her book Connie Schultz, syndicated columnist with the Cleveland Plain Dealer, discusses life on the campaign trail ...

http://inside.c- spanarchives.org...ecord=555178984
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GravatarA cup of the otherwise worthless blood of our foes, mates?


GravatarI read somewhere that all of the members of Rush and Saga graduated from the same high school. Or was that Rush and Men Without Hats? Or maybe Triumph? Red Rider? Anyway, Rush and one of those other Canadian bands...

There's only one high school in Canada.


GravatarCucumbers and melons. Your tranny garden is against God and Nature.
rorschach, futon djinn


I suspect the goodness has increased ever since I brought home the Squash Head Katsina. Squash, cucumbers, melons, all the same thing.

And I really love the idea that the Major US West Coast City where our flory lives has a street maintenance department where they're game to plant squash and corn in the basins of the little urban trees. This is applied horting at its finest!


GravatarI think I went to high school with the guy that went "Biddy Biddy Biddy"
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 9:26 pm | #


That's Twiki, and he's told me all about the... things... you did to him.


GravatarI think Jon Lovitz went to UC Irvine, as did I.


Gravatargomez: that' I think would have been Mel Blanc, and therefore most unlikely...


GravatarThere's only one high school in Canada.
Seraphiel


Frostbite Falls Central High.


GravatarThough I walk in the valley of the shadow of trolls, I fear no evil, for I have killfile.


GravatarI went to the same high school as plantsman.

For a year or so anyway.
.


GravatarOnly 75 more hits at my blog before I STFU and leave you alone.


GravatarGordon Lightfoot Jr High, Toronto


GravatarWho the fuck cares? Who here went to the same school as Erin Grey?

Kid in my Scout troop went on to be the assmunch in Karate Kid 3. He was pretty much an assmunch then too.

I got nuthin.


GravatarAnn Coulter on Scifi, I swear.


GravatarMary Steenburgen spent one semester at my undergrad.

Of course, one of my master's came from UA-Fayetteville, where I had wild flings with the Clintons.


Gravatarthe KGB prison in central Moscow where thousands of anti-Soviet political dissidents were imprisoned and/or executed
Shouldn't your handle be Gitmo?


GravatarAnn Coulter on Scifi, I swear.
Mr French

Night of the Living Dead?


Gravatar....Nah, couldn't have been her. Someone ate her and not the other way round.


GravatarThat's Twiki, and he's told me all about the... things... you did to him.
rorschach, futon djinn


"Biddy biddy biddy" *flush*


GravatarOoops, she's back.


Gravatar JeffCO


GravatarThe two most notorious prisons in the world today are Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.


GravatarSomeone needs to post here as Folsom County


GravatarLohan
Didn't she drive Herbie, fully loaded?


GravatarRorschach, nice blog.

Usually when I post it kills the thread.

Well, it's about time anyway.


GravatarProfWombat, don't let Spinoza fool you. He likes fart jokes as much as any 6 year old boy

So did Montaigne.


GravatarRorschach, nice blog.

Usually when I post it kills the thread.

Well, it's about time anyway.
nuncamas | 08.04.07 - 9:35 pm | #


Glad ya like it.


GravatarThe two most notorious prisons in the world today are Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

And that's only because we don't know about the others Bushco has created.


GravatarShouldn't your handle be Gitmo?

See, it's a wry commentary on how liberals, as the Stalinists they are at heart, seek only to stifle dissent and imprison those who disagree politically.

It makes sense. Telling an unserious troll to go fuck himself is morally equivalent to plucking a citizen from the street, taking him out of the country to a secret prison where he is never charged with anything but car batteries to the genitals and leaving him to languish without any recourse whatsoever. Oh wait, on second thought, no, it's not.


GravatarAs I have young children, I indeed saw 'Herbie Fully Loaded'. Lindsay Lohan didn't make much of an impression on me, nor did the rest of the movie...


GravatarI've been at my in-laws(1) in Iowa(2) for a week(3) with no cable(4). Take me home now, Lord. Take me home, please...


GravatarHola Deacon! You're missing some unusually crappily humid weather round here.


GravatarI see that train a comin.....


GravatarTomorrow we see The Simpsons Movie. We waited because the little lefty was away at computer camp last week.


GravatarAs I have young children, I indeed saw 'Herbie Fully Loaded'. Lindsay Lohan didn't make much of an impression on me,

Turns out the fully loaded was just method acting.


GravatarAnd that's only because we don't know about the others Bushco has created.
Mr French |


And somewhere in Poland they're having fun with those musselmen.
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Gravatarsun god now setting on the western shoreline. 24 hours until i'm back around the long train of abuses and usurpations.


GravatarIowa(2)

Hey, don't be so hard on Iowa. Any state with a gas station chain called Cum n Go can't be all bad.


GravatarYou're missing some unusually crappily humid weather round here.
JeffCO

We're getting that here, too. Unusually muggy.


GravatarLight rain in Chicago for the last two hours, temps in the low 70's.


GravatarHey, don't be so hard on Iowa. Any state with a gas station chain called Cum n Go can't be all bad.
Tralfaz


Are they full or self serve?


GravatarA new thread would be nice.


GravatarIs there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GravatarI could really use a month of October around now. Temps in the fifties and sixties, low humidity, lots of sunshine with a bit of gold in it rather than blinding white...


GravatarAnd somewhere in Poland they're having fun with those musselmen.

Pulling them from their shells?

Or perhaps the mutants, creeps, and musselmen are shaking like a leaf over in Hitsville, UK.


GravatarIs there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:41 pm | #


If there is, break it.

And break it naked.


GravatarAbsolutely no one of any importance came from my high school, but Tommy Smothers was an alumnus of my college... as were the two guys that gave the black power salute at the '68 Olympics.


GravatarHey, don't be so hard on Iowa. Any state with a gas station chain called Cum n Go can't be all bad.
Tralfaz

Are they full or self serve?


You have to pay at the pump.


GravatarIs there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?

As long as you wait 30 minutes after eating...


GravatarHey, don't be so hard on Iowa. Any state with a gas station chain called Cum n Go can't be all bad.
Tralfaz

Are they full or self serve?
Gomez


I think they go both ways.


GravatarToo old for that nonsense. Besides, Arthur would worry.
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GravatarNils Lofgren went my H.S.


GravatarWell, technically it's Kum and Go, but we just call it "the unfortunately named service station."


Gravatarbreak it naked.

Wasn't that the tagline for Breakin' III?


GravatarAs long as you wait 30 minutes after eating...
dave™© |


That's so pre 9/11.
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GravatarWent googling and came up with this:

While it's true that the digestive process does divert the circulation of the blood toward the gut and to a certain extent, away from the muscles, the fact is that an episode of drowning caused by swimming on a full stomach has never been documented. Neither the American Academy of Pediatrics nor the American Red Cross makes any specific recommendations about waiting any amount of time after eating before taking a swim. There's a theoretical possibility that one could develop a cramp while swimming with a full stomach, but a person swimming in a pool or controlled swimming area could easily exit the water if this happens. As with any exercise after eating, swimming right after a big meal might be uncomfortable, but it won't cause you to drown.

http://www.medicinenet.com/ scrip...rticlekey=47368

If you're not doing sprints or butterfly, probably no issue...


GravatarIs there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:41 pm


It's a preferred feeding time for sharks.

So if you see a fin sticking out of the water and hear a double bass humming...


GravatarIs there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?

West Nile rules.
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GravatarHere, I'll whore to kill the thread.


GravatarIt's a preferred feeding time for sharks.

So if you see a fin sticking out of the water and hear a double bass humming...
Tom - 大肚腩


She's got sharks in her pool?
.


GravatarAlcohol and night swimming: it's a winning combination!


GravatarIs there a rule that says I can't go have a swim in the dusky warm evening night?
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GWPDA, Roving Historian

Yes, there is. The No Swimming in the Dusky Warm Evening Rule.


GravatarAccording to Mrs. Blues, Debbie Reynolds also went to Burbank HS. Though not at the same time as Mrs. Blues.


GravatarDigesting causes more global warming that private jets.


GravatarWell, technically it's Kum and Go, but we just call it "the unfortunately named service station."
robot (on ethanol)


Ah yes, so it is. Just think, some marketing firm out there was paid to come up with that name (or maybe not...).


GravatarI could really use a month of October around now. Temps in the fifties and sixties, low humidity, lots of sunshine with a bit of gold in it rather than blinding white...
ProfWombat


Amen. Very much ready for this awful season to end.


GravatarShe's got sharks in her pool?

She might have sharks that can swim on the land. She's got fins to the left, fins to the right, and she's the only bait in town.


GravatarDigesting causes more global warming that private jets.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:49 pm | #

Methane is a far more potent global warming gas than CO2.


GravatarToo old for that nonsense. Besides, Arthur would worry.
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GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 9:43 pm | #


Then why ask?


GravatarAlcohol and night swimming: it's a winning combination!
JeffCO


....deserves a quiet night


GravatarNTodd: nice; the picture of the gulls on the roof under that great sky especially so...


GravatarWatching this FISA debate on C-span -- is there any House repuke who's not a winger?


GravatarDigesting causes more global warming that private jets.

Mother Teresa blew off so much carbon dioxide she created an ozone hole over her head than looked like a halo.


GravatarI has cheezeburger in paradise.


GravatarDigesting causes more global warming that private jets.

The only way to save ourselves is to kill ourselves.


GravatarShe's got fins to the left, fins to the right, and she's the only bait in town.
JeffCO

But does she feel like a remora?


GravatarWatching this FISA debate on C-span -- is there any House repuke who's not a winger?
P O'Neill |


Name names.
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GravatarI CAN HAZ PARADIZE?


GravatarProf - thanks. I found the scene rather funny, particularly since the "arena" is one in name only, and apparently only gulls attend the games...


GravatarWatching this FISA debate on C-span -- is there any House repuke who's not a winger?
P O'Neill |


Ron Paul has a private wing off the wing, a little extreme right pin feather.


GravatarAs with any exercise after eating, swimming right after a big meal might be uncomfortable, but it won't cause you to drown.

Now they fucking tell me...


GravatarRon Paul has a private wing off the wing, a little extreme right pin feather.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 9:53 pm | #

Except he doesn't want to spy on Americans, does he ?


GravatarShe's got sharks in her pool?
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 9:47 pm


Were you expecting John Belushi in a bee costume?


GravatarWell, technically it's Kum and Go, but we just call it "the unfortunately named service station."
robot (on ethanol)

Ah yes, so it is. Just think, some marketing firm out there was paid to come up with that name (or maybe not...).
Tralfaz



It let them use the old K&G letterhead left over from Krause and Gentle, the penny-pinchers.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/57/57959.html
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GravatarEschaton World Ranking: 78,158

This blog reaches approximately 19,576 U.S. monthly uniques. The blog is popular among a primarily older, more educated, rather female audience.

The ladies like them some Atrios

(yes, I am higher than Atrios)


GravatarWere you expecting John Belushi in a bee costume?
Tom


caaaandygram.....


GravatarThe blog is popular among a primarily older, more educated, rather female audience.

That's why I hang out here: for the chicks.


GravatarHere, I'll whore to kill the thread.
NTodd


As if anyone could even begin to give a shit.


GravatarAlcohol and night swimming: it's a winning combination!
JeffCO | 08.04.07 - 9:47 pm | #

don't give me any ideas. not now.


Gravatar(yes, I am higher than Atrios)

Dood, you gonna share?


GravatarBut does she feel like a remora? Deacon Blues

She's never struck me as one to feel remoras.


GravatarThis blog reaches approximately 19,576 U.S. monthly uniques. The blog is popular among a primarily older, more educated, rather female audience.

The ladies like them some Atrios

Harems are usually loaded with uniques!
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GravatarY'all see Webb's justification:
Yesterday I supported two measures to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. These measures were considered against the backdrop of heightened concerns from our nation's intelligence community abut the threat of international terrorism. The ramifications of the two amendments before us last night were not political. Instead they related to the urgent demands of national security. I chose to heed those warnings. We now have six months to work in earnest to bring full accountability to the process.
This distinction and the threats to national security were stated clearly by Admiral McConnell as well as four of the eight Democratic members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. These members, Senators Feinstein, Mikulski, Bayh, and Bill Nelson, have extensive experience on intelligence matters and are respected champions of civil rights and liberties. They chose to give significant weight and deference to the intelligence community on FISA reform, and so did I.
There is near uniform, bipartisan agreement on the need to reform FISA to reflect modern telecommunications and information technology. We must do so in a way that safeguards basic civil and constitutional rights. But we must also remember that the terrorist threat to the nation is extremely serious. I remain fully committed to bringing accountability to this process, and to protecting the privacy rights of all Americans.


Gravatar(yes, I am higher than Atrios)
WalterNeff, 69,876

Dude, you're bigger than Jesus now.


GravatarOlder, educated, rather female people are among my favorites...


GravatarI still wanna know how a court that issues retroactive warrants can impede intelligence activities


GravatarI demand you watch Focus doing their hit "Hocus Pocus" in 1973. It's freaky. The lead singer is touched. Jack Black has NOTHING on this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=bpV5InLw52U


Gravatar These members, Senators Feinstein, Mikulski, Bayh, and Bill Nelson, have extensive experience on intelligence matters and are respected champions of civil rights and liberties.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 9:59 pm


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Time to reset the Intelligence Committee seats.

and p.s. Jim, be careful when conversing with your son in Iraq, they will be listening.


GravatarBayh's' in his second term, Nelson, I believe, in his first (?), how can they have "extensive experience" in national security matters?


GravatarWebb's suggestion that 'The ramifications of the two amendments before us last night were not political' is laughably ingenuous. He makes noises consistent, I hope, with the capacity to regret his vote in the future...


GravatarI have Hocus Pocus by Focus on vinyl


GravatarI have Hocus Pocus by Focus on vinyl
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:04 pm | #

Right on. I like way they play it at breakneck speed in the video.


GravatarI still wanna know how a court that issues retroactive warrants can impede intelligence activities
Jim
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me too


GravatarIt let them use the old K&G letterhead left over from Krause and Gentle, the penny-pinchers.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/57/57959.html
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QuentinCompson


Wow, there are 430 of those stations. That adds up to a lot of Beavis and Butthead type snickers on a daily basis.


GravatarRight on. I like way they play it at breakneck speed in the video.
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GravatarI still wanna know how a court that issues retroactive warrants can impede intelligence activities
Jim


Constitutional protections are just quaint notions.


Gravatarcaaaandygram.....

for Mongo?


Gravatarpunked out focus~! very nice


GravatarHe makes noises consistent, I hope, with the capacity to regret his vote in the future...
ProfWombat |


There's some party loyalist over at Kos defending the Sixteen by claiming this is some kind of 'emergency' bill, s a stopgap until a Reasonable Bipartisan Compromise can be reached with Bush in the next Friedman.

And a self-described Anderson Repubican (John Anderson, Eisenhower/Rockefeller Republican ran as an independent in 1980, for you young people) who is pointing out that this isn't retroactive, so anything Bush did before the law was passed (and signed) is illegal and impeachable.


GravatarAs if anyone could even begin to give a shit.

???


GravatarThe site (I'm creative director - we signed yesterday) will be in the top 10,000 by Christmas after we relaunch with a redesign around Nov. 1. Very exciting - showbiz related.


GravatarI think I'm rather female.... Certainly rather female than not. And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait, how to research, how to knit and sow, how to program a computer and swaddle a baby, prune a vine and salt an enemy's lands.

O-Kay! Off to swim under the stars!
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GravatarOlder, educated, rather female people are among my favorites...
ProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 10:00 pm | #


The "rather" in "rather female" is rather perplexing.


GravatarO-Kay! Off to swim under the stars!

Voomvoomvoomvoomvoomvoom!


GravatarThere is near uniform, bipartisan agreement on the need to reform FISA to reflect modern telecommunications and information technology.

Yeah, because Dog knows that being able to wiretap for 72 hours before getting a warrant JUST ISN'T FAST ENOUGH in this modern era where it can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.


GravatarThe house just voted to approve the warrantless spying bill. All hail his majesty Dick Cheney and his jester GWB.


Gravatarfinally...a cool breeze off the ocean...


Gravatarthink I'm rather female.... Certainly rather female than not. And I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait, how to research, how to knit and sow, how to program a computer and swaddle a baby, prune a vine and salt an enemy's lands.

O-Kay! Off to swim under the stars!
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GWPDA, Roving Historian | Homepage

now you tell me...


Gravatarit can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.

Them tubes are tricky, I tells ya!


GravatarAnd I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait,

Just leave that long-haired country girl alone.


Gravatarit can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.


he lives in Alaska, and sometimes the trucks get snowed in delivering the tubes.


GravatarThe 'rather' came from a description of the Eschatonian demographic quoted above...


Gravatarit can take 3 days for Ted Stevens to receive an Internet.
Sounds like the Federal gummint needs to build a bridge directly to the Senator's home.


GravatarRE: Iowa's Kum and Gos

There's also "HY-VEE" groceries(kinda gross) as well as some stores called "Menards" ("you'll find it at Menards..." is the jingle, but I think it should be "why don't you go down and check out Menards.")


GravatarI demand you watch Focus doing their hit "Hocus Pocus" in 1973. It's freaky. The lead singer is touched. Jack Black has NOTHING on this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=bpV5InLw52U
Gilly Gonzylon


The early 70s were the last time rock gods truly walked the Earth. All we have now is a poor grade of twilight compared to those glorious times...


Gravatarso anything Bush did before the law was passed (and signed) is illegal and impeachable.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 10:07 pm


The fact that the spineless bunch could impeach for listening in on my conversations 4 years ago is supposed to make me feel okay about being deprived of my 4th Amendment rights now?

Wonder how Republicans Abroad feels about this move by their fearless leader? The Glibertarians like the InstaParrot?


GravatarThere's also "HY-VEE" groceries(kinda gross) as well as some stores called "Menards"

Anything like Ralph's Pretty Good Groceries ("if you can't get it at Ralph's you probably don't need it!")?


Gravatar("you'll find it at Menards..." is the jingle, but I think it should be "why don't you go down and check out Menards.")
robot (on ethanol)


I once dressed up as the Menards guy for Halloween. My jaw was sore the entire next day from doing that smile.


GravatarOn BookTV/c-span2

A Memory, a Monologue, a Rant, and a Prayer

"A Memory, A Monologue, A Rant, and A Prayer" is a collection of writings about violence against women. The pieces were originally commissioned to be performed at the "Until the Violence Stops" festival held in New York City in 2006. Several of the essays were recently performed by Eve Ensler, Jane Fonda, Val Kilmer, and Valerie Plame Wilson in this event from the New Mexico Museum of Art in Santa Fe.

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GravatarThe fact that the spineless bunch could impeach for listening in on my conversations 4 years ago is supposed to make me feel okay about being deprived of my 4th Amendment rights now?


I just found it interesting that a self-described (more or less former) Republican would speak optimistically about impeachment was interesting. Chez the Great Orange Satan, no less.

I hold out no hope for the Constitution being enforced.


GravatarBy God, "Lovely Day" by Bill Withers is a great song.


GravatarAnd I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait,

Marry me?


GravatarJoe Wilson, too - and Ali McGraw.
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GravatarOh yes. Rather female, rather than not. You people have no idea how pleasant it is to be going into the last week of one's notice of resignation to the Borg. Relaxing. No matter whatever else is involved, the idea of not having to get up at 4.10am to drive to Corporate America and pretend interest in spurious nonsense is, oh, beyond heaven.

Goodnight. Be good.
.


GravatarAnd I know how to cook, how to fish, how to cut bait,

Marry me?
gullycat | 08.04.07 - 10:16 pm | #

I know a woman in Wisconsin who can drop a deer with a single shot and field dress it in less than 30 minutes.


GravatarWe can has new thread plz?

kthnxbai!


GravatarMy jaw was sore the entire next day from doing that smile.
Tralfaz

Glad you made that clear!


GravatarIt is fun, being a short timer. I was notified of being laid off about 4 months in advance, and those last months were quite enjoyable, because you just don't give a damn.


GravatarGWPDA, Roving Historian
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cheers to you ol' gal
you sound plenty happy


GravatarIt's silly pop, but I could watch Jane Wiedlin all night.


GravatarFuck You, McCain! It was YOUR GOP butt-buddy in Minnesota that vetoed a tax increase that would have gone to fix infrastructure.

And what the fuck did YOU DO to keep your GOP butt-buddy in Alaska from earmarking hundreds of millions for his pet projects?

"August 04,2007 | ANKENY, Iowa -- Republican John McCain said Saturday that Congress could share in the blame for the Minnesota bridge collapse because lawmakers diverted billions of dollars in transportation money from road work to pet projects.

"I think perhaps you can make the argument that part of the responsibility lies with the Congress of the United States," the Arizona senator said.

McCain said Congress spent roughly $20 billion on special-interest projects when it approved a new highway bill, signed into law by President Bush.

"We spent approximately $20 billion of that money on pork barrel, earmark projects," said McCain. "Maybe if we had done it right, maybe some of that money would have gone to inspect those bridges and other bridges around the country. Maybe the 200,000 people who cross that bridge every day would have been safer than spending $233 million of your tax dollars on a bridge in Alaska to an island with 50 people on it."
"

http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/ arc...=D8QQC02O0.html


GravatarYou people have no idea how pleasant it is to be going into the last week of one's notice of resignation to the Borg. gwpda

empathy is our strong suit, so yes we do.

stupidy is my strong suit, so what does borg mean?


Gravatarbbl when there's a thread my crappy connection will load in a timely fashion.


GravatarFor GWPDA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...related& search=


GravatarTralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:21 pm | #

Christ....you should have warned me....that stuff will destroy your brain.


GravatarOooh, are we talking about businesses with questionably dirty names?

Because I have photographic evidence of a very good one ...


GravatarSo I'm back from my family reunion thingie, and the first thing I see is this mea culpa in the NYT Sunday mag from Michael Ignatieff, for supporting the Iraq war. He does seem to have gained some self awareness, but then he ruins it towards the end by attributing imaginary bad motives to the dirty hippies who were against the war all along.


GravatarTiny! Merci bien! C'est vrai - nous sommes bien!


Gravatari think duncan od'ed on political passion tonight and this thread will never ever go away.


GravatarChrist....you should have warned me....that stuff will destroy your brain.
SharedHumanity


Yeah but sometimes, music is just about the candy.


GravatarThe early 70s were the last time rock gods truly walked the Earth. All we have now is a poor grade of twilight compared to those glorious times...
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:12 pm | #

Oh, so right.


GravatarYeah but sometimes, music is just about the candy.
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:26 pm | #

I can has ?


GravatarTinyPorcelainMouse | 08.04.07 - 10:23 pm | #

That is more than alright.


GravatarHe does seem to have gained some self awareness, but then he ruins it towards the end by attributing imaginary bad motives to the dirty hippies who were against the war all along.

What were our bad motives? Not thinking brown people could become democratic (at the barrel of a gun)?


GravatarWhat were our bad motives? Not thinking brown people could become democratic (at the barrel of a gun)?
NTodd, Special | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:28 pm | #

Not making them become call centers and consumers.


Gravatarone of the best movies ever....

'almost famous'.


GravatarHe does seem to have gained some self awareness, but then he ruins it towards the end by attributing imaginary bad motives to the dirty hippies who were against the war all along.

Sullivan said last week that one of the reasons he supported the war was teh DFH's opposed to it were "visciously consdescending" to those who were for it.


GravatarWhat were our bad motives? Not thinking brown people could become democratic (at the barrel of a gun)?
NTodd, Special | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:28 pm | #

Daring to think that they have a right to not be "shocked and awed".


Gravatar'almost famous'.
fokowi at lake cabin | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:29 pm | #

"I am a golden god !"


GravatarSullivan said last week that one of the reasons he supported the war was teh DFH's opposed to it were "visciously consdescending" to those who were for it.

Yeah, remember how we called all the pro-war people "traitors" and stuff? We were so vicious.


GravatarHere's the exact quote, NTodd:

We might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, who best anticipated how events turned out. But many of those who correctly anticipated catastrophe did so not by exercising judgment but by indulging in ideology. They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.

Of course, no names are named. Then he goes on to say that "some people" (again unnamed) were against the war for the right reasons.


GravatarIn other news, didja hear that the Everglades are (is?) out of danger?

What a relief.

/snark


GravatarOf course, no names are named. Then he goes on to say that "some people" (again unnamed) were against the war for the right reasons.
Karin | 08.04.07 - 10:31 pm | #

And those might be that we oppose the brutal killing of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children.


GravatarOf course, no names are named. Then he goes on to say that "some people" (again unnamed) were against the war for the right reasons.
Karin | 08.04.07 - 10:31 pm | #

Where's Seinfled with a "Who are these people?"


GravatarI can has ?
Gilly Gonzylon


Yes you Can .


GravatarMonday is the sixth anniversary of "Bin Laden determined to strike in US."

Join the PDB blogswarm. If you have a blog, that is.


GravatarThe article mainly centers around issues of judgment. But for me, being against the war was always more an issue of morality than judgment. Ignatieff only has decided his judgment was wrong because the war didn't turn out well.


GravatarBarry Bonds just hit #755.


GravatarBONDS HIT NO. 755


GravatarJoin the PDB blogswarm. If you have a blog, that is.
Sinfonian


Christ I'm half tempted to start one just for that.


Gravatarthat fucking sully has been driving me crazy with his excuses for his past defensive positions on w/iraqi war/compassionate conservatism.

talk a man without a country...


GravatarGonna open up the Indiana National Lakeshore tomorrow morning....extended family and friends and a sand dunes Sunday brunch.


GravatarThe early 70s were the last time rock gods truly walked the Earth.

Speaking of... who wants an MP3 of Norman Greenbaum's follow-up to "Spirit in the Sky" - "Canned Ham"?

The first five people who email me at contact-at-dumpbushnow-dot-us win!


GravatarAbsolutely. Goodnight!
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GravatarBONDS HIT NO. "755*".

fyt
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GravatarBud Selig looks nonplussed.


GravatarYeah, remember how we called all the pro-war people "traitors" and stuff?

Ahhhhhhh ... memories. Telling them how they were objectively pro-terrorist ... describing the camps we were going to put them in ... telling Sully that in opposing us he was part of an anti-American fifth column ... Good times. Good times.


GravatarTime for One Piece on CN. One of the more interesting animes on in the states these days.


GravatarMonday is the sixth anniversary of "Bin Laden determined to strike in US."

Yesterday was the 36th anniversary of the formation of Wings.

I listened to "Some People Never Know" to celebrate...


GravatarWhat a long thread! Evening, all.


GravatarAbsolutely. Goodnight!

GWPDA, Roving Historian


Goodnight, dear.


GravatarThey should give him a golden syringe or something.


GravatarBONDS HIT NO. 755
Gomez


I wonder if Hammerin' Hank's gonna pull a Bill Dauterive.

That'd be cool.


GravatarCoke to Sinfonian. Just noticed.


GravatarBONDS HIT NO. 755
Gomez


Who cares......a cheat and a bore.


GravatarPDB

Bush thought it said PBR and headed for the fridge instead of reading it.


GravatarIgnatieff only has decided his judgment was wrong because the war didn't turn out well.
Karin

Yup.
The war was wrong. Period.
If it had gone swimmingly, it was still wrong. The fact that it has turned into a huge clusterfuck is immaterial to the question of the morality of it.


GravatarThe answer to the trivia question is Clay Hensley.

The question: Which pitcher gave up Barry Bonds' 755th home run?

Hensley joins Jack Billingham (Reds) in almost-historic trivia. Billingham gave up Hank Aaron's 714th, the one that tied Babe Ruth.


GravatarSpeaking of anniversaries, today is the 50th anniversary of "American Bandstand."

I feel old...


GravatarThe war was wrong. Period.
If it had gone swimmingly, it was still wrong. The fact that it has turned into a huge clusterfuck is immaterial to the question of the morality of it.
Deacon Blues | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:41 pm | #

That deserves to be repeated.


GravatarCoke to Sinfonian. Just noticed.
Gomez


Heh. I wondered if my comment even went through, since everyone after that has been copying yours.


GravatarPeople are holding up asterisk signs.


Gravatar
Hensley joins Jack Billingham (Reds) in almost-historic trivia.

Who CAUGHT Aaron's 755th in the bullpen?


GravatarJesus. Selig didn't even applaud.


GravatarThe 15 yo is annoyed at having to read Irving Stone's 'Lust For Life' for school, because she's just finished, of all the books to just pick up and devour of a summer, 'the Brothers Karamazov', and thinks Stone the lesser writer. Well, yeah...


GravatarIt's highly annoying, and I know it's one of Atrios' pet peeves also, that the people who were dead wrong about Iraq can't just admit they were wrong and leave it at that. They always have to add in some dig at the DFH's.


GravatarAdrian Beltre just hit no. 208


GravatarWho CAUGHT Aaron's 755th in the bullpen?
bill buckner


I believe you mean Aaron's 715th ... that was Braves reliever Tom House.


GravatarAbsolutely. Goodnight!

I didn't even know things like that existed.


GravatarWho CAUGHT Aaron's 755th in the bullpen?
bill buckner


Tom House.


GravatarI remember just before the US invasion of Iraq, an emotional demonstration in my usually sleepy little downtown area at the pier, jerks honking horns in their jacked-up trucks circling the block, flags waving, "God Bless America" banners...it was all sickening.


GravatarJust send me a case of Coke, Gomez.


GravatarWants be my mousee? boyee


GravatarYes you Can .
Tralfaz | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:34 pm | #

Heh. That's kraut rock.


Gravatar(CNN) -- A U.S. Army soldier has been sentenced to 110 years' confinement for participating in the rape of a 14-year-old girl and the killings of her and her family in Iraq, an Army spokeswoman said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/04...q.family.slain/

Many, but not enough.
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GravatarI believe you mean Aaron's 715th...
Indeed. And you are correct, sir. House was traded to the Red Sox the following season, for my hero Roger Moret.


GravatarPeople are holding up asterisk signs.
Gomez | 08.04.07 - 10:42 pm | #

I like that.


GravatarNews is news. A record has been tied.

And Bonds is no slouch.

I saw him play his first game in person in 1986 at Three Rivers.


GravatarAaron's 755th was hit when he was a member of the Brewers, in July of '76. He played the rest of the season but never hit another HR, and so no one really thought the last one would be the Last One.


GravatarWe better hope that the publicans don't insist that the dems dress up like clowns or the terrists will win, because the reid and pelosi will willingly walk around in purple wigs with sticks up their ass.


GravatarDeacon Blues | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:44 pm | #

I participated in a candlelight vigil in a downtown park about a week before the invasion.....we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.


GravatarNew Frank Rich in case anyone has not.

http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...s20001/ rich.htm


GravatarWe better hope that the publicans don't insist that the dems dress up like clowns or the terrists will win, because the reid and pelosi will willingly walk around in purple wigs with sticks up their ass.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi



GravatarJust send me a case of Coke, Gomez.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate


I'm just a little slower than you.


GravatarHouse also played for the Rangers, as did Rogelio "Roger" Moret. Later, House was the Rangers' pitching coach.

I love that your hero is Moret.


GravatarIt's interesting how desperate they are to explain away the fact that there were those who proved quite accurate in predicting disaster. For instance, some were indeed motivated by ideology. No doubt about it. That their ideology in this case allowed them to draw conclusions more consistent with fact than others' would, in some folks' minds, provoke a reconsideration of their ideology, rather than a dismissal of their (correct) view out of disrespect for its origin...


GravatarWhen George Bush is sentenced to (at least) 110 years in prison (at hard labor) for sending that soldier to Iraq in the first place, then, maybe then, I can sleep without grinding my fucking teeth. And WTF is up with the fucking Dems passing the motherfucking FISA bill? What in the fuckity fuck? Times like this, I wanna give up, I really do.


GravatarI participated in a candlelight vigil in a downtown park about a week before the invasion.....we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity | 08.04.07 - 10:46 pm | #

There were Fox n Friends counter protesters holding up crosses as though we were the devil.


GravatarI participated in a candlelight vigil in a downtown park about a week before the invasion.....we were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity

The country went fucking crazy. An orgy of hate. Very ugly.


GravatarSpeaking of anniversaries, today is the 50th anniversary of "American Bandstand."

I feel old...
dave™©


My sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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GravatarHensley joins Jack Billingham (Reds) in almost-historic trivia. Billingham gave up Hank Aaron's 714th, the one that tied Babe Ruth

Thanks. I was wondering this. Of course, Bonds still has three or so abs left tonight, so Hensley might be another answer also.


GravatarThat injured skateboarder who fell 60 feet in the X Games?

He was released from the hospital today. Bruised lung and broken wrist.

Dude is lucky to be alive, as you know if you've seen the video.


Gravatarwe're gonna win 'cause we're winnin' the hartz and minz of the Iraqian People!

At the U.S. Forward Operating base in Iraq, Iraqis — including interpreters — are forced to use separate latrines from U.S. troops. The sign taped to the men’s restroom reads, “US Military Contractors Civilians Only!!!!!” One soldier at the base cited Iraqi “hygiene habits” as a reason for the separation.


GravatarProfWombat | 08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #

Now there you go...thinkin logical and all.


GravatarThey opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil

Hmmm... that was the impression I got from reading the pre-war White Papers from the Whoritage Foundation on Iraq.


GravatarAnd WTF is up with the fucking Dems passing the motherfucking FISA bill? What in the fuckity fuck? Times like this, I wanna give up, I really do.

Might not do so well in the House.


GravatarA-Rod also hit his 500th today.


GravatarBonds took 45 minutes of extra BP tonight.


GravatarAnyone have a link to a roll call for the Senatorial vote last night to felate Bush?

www.senate.gov still hasn't posted it. Chickenshit bastards.


GravatarThere were Fox n Friends counter protesters holding up crosses as though we were the devil.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 10:48 pm | #

Those assholes are "against the war" now because chimp fucked it up, not because it was wrong.


Gravatarwe were harassed by people honking and screaming obscenities out of their car windows.
SharedHumanity

It was a terrible time, another chapter in the American dark ages, as this chapter in US history will be labeled by future historians.

I wonder how those people who harassed you would feel today.


GravatarThere were Fox n Friends counter protesters holding up crosses as though we were the devil.
Gilly Gonzylon


I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

A Chicago Sun Times columnist who now claims to have opposed the war did a column on a big anti-war protest, pre-invasion, and ended it with something like:

"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."


GravatarAnd WTF is up with the fucking Dems passing the motherfucking FISA bill? What in the fuckity fuck? Times like this, I wanna give up, I really do.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty


To be fair, it wasn't all the Dems. Only those who are the members of the new caucus, "Democrats For Undermining the Constitution and Kowtowing Eternally to Drunky" (that's Drunky McStagger).


Gravatarwhat if we held a constitutional convention II, and every left leaning/thinking person with an internet conection showed up???

kinda like yearly kos on steroids without the jet lag and hangovers.

hey... just sayin'...


GravatarI love that your hero is Moret...
Oh, he ruled! But my REAL hero was/is the immortal Luis Tiant, who now hangs outside of Fenway selling overpriced Cuban sandwiches most evenings. I had my picture taken with him last summer, and felt like a little kid...


GravatarYou all are funny. Just got back.


GravatarMight not do so well in the House.

I. Don't. Fucking. Care.

It's the principle of the fucking thing. Goddamned Abu Gonazales sits there and LAUGHS IN THEIR FACES while he lies, and they turn around and say, "Okay, here, have some more Unconstitutional power." What in the fuck is wrong with these people? I am severely fed the fuck up.


GravatarAnyone have a link to a roll call for the Senatorial vote last night to felate Bush?

www.senate.gov still hasn't posted it. Chickenshit bastards.
bo


Here are the Dems who voted for.


GravatarMy sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

I've got video of Dick Clarke showing kids the Strawberry Fields video for the first time and having them comment about it. Mostly, they said "They look OLD!"


Gravatar"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."

Really? Where did that one come from? What source for such a statement compels us to remember it? Me, I think history offers a different lesson, and has done so over and over and over again...


Gravatar"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."
Jim |


After the next terrorist attack this nation will return to those days.
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GravatarESPN's Erin Andrews wants me. She just doesn't know it yet.

Wow.


GravatarExactly, Deacon Blues & Prof Wombat.
I think Freud would diagnose a simple case of projection. It's the pro-war crowd who were motivated by ideology and emotion.


Gravatar"We should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of a man of peace."

Blessed are the war makers.


GravatarOh, he ruled! But my REAL hero was/is the immortal Luis Tiant,

I knew it wasn't Mookie Wilson.


GravatarWe might test judgment by asking, on the issue of Iraq, who best anticipated how events turned out. But many of those who correctly anticipated catastrophe did so not by exercising judgment but by indulging in ideology. They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.

Oh, just fuck me.


GravatarReally? Where did that one come from? What source for such a statement compels us to remember it? Me, I think history offers a different lesson, and has done so over and over and over again...
ProfWombat


It has a vaguely biblical ring to it doesn't it, but nothing I'm familiar with. But I've never slogged my way through the whole thing.


Gravatarthinks Stone the lesser writer. Well, yeah...
My educator mom was quizzing me the other day RE favorite books from my Middle School years - all I could really remember were trashy "adult" novels of the Stone/Arthur Hailey/Irving Wallace school. Hot shit when you're 13!


GravatarMy sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

I've got video of Dick Clarke showing kids the Strawberry Fields video for the first time and having them comment about it. Mostly, they said "They look OLD!"
Gilly Gonzylon


My sister was on c. 1958-1959. Of course the show was black and white so the red hair bit was especially amusing.
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GravatarHere's teh quote:

It was Edmund Burke who said the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Looking around, at the peace protesters, at how angry they are over a war that has not yet started, how much hate they have for their country, it was hard not to see them as the very agents of evil itself. The devil, when he comes, of course, will come cloaked in disguise, as a man of peace.

here's a link
http://findarticles.com/p/articl...117/ ai_n9614254

Could this refer to the anti-Christ claiming to be the Messiah? But that Messiah is a warrior, not a " Prince of Peace", right?


GravatarTried to Google devils, masks and peace to no avail...


GravatarOkay, I know Bonds probably used 'roids, but I still think Selig's lack of response - he didn't even applaud - is classless.


GravatarWe should all remember, when the Devil comes, it will be wearing the mask of an imaginary boogeyman invented to frighten children into obedience.


Gravatar They opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong

How about the SENSELESS KILLING you get with war?


GravatarI wonder how those people who harassed you would feel today.

My guess would be, same way they felt then. They're stupid, and there ain't no cure for stupid. Pulled into the parking lot at the grocery today next to a big ol' honkin' SUV with Bush/Cheney '04 stickers plastered all over it, looked at the people packing their Twinkies and Ho-Ho's and Pepsi Cola into it, shook my head and said, "Fuck you both very much."


GravatarThe Devil has already come. In fact, he had the battery replaced in his pacemaker just last week.


GravatarThey opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong.

Yes.


GravatarIt was Edmund Burke who said the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

The author misunderstood Burke, and the nature of "nothing."


GravatarHere's the link to Ignatieff's piece, if you want to bother, Getting Iraq Wrong
He actually starts off pretty well.


GravatarOkay, I know Bonds probably used 'roids, but I still think Selig's lack of response - he didn't even applaud - is classless.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate


Bonds seems to be rising to the occasion by showing the class.


GravatarOkay, I know Bonds probably used 'roids, but I still think Selig's lack of response - he didn't even applaud - is classless.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate


Selig hasn't ever had any class. Guy was a used car salesman at one point.

otoh, I would have done the same thing. Aaron had something Bonds will never have. That class thing, again.


GravatarBut that Messiah is a warrior, not a " Prince of Peace", right?

Yup, Jesus said he came with a sword. Weird guy, that hippie.


GravatarThey supported the invasion because they believed the president was anointed by God or because they believed dirty fucking hippies are always and in every situation wrong.

Works better this way.


GravatarThey opposed the invasion because they believed the president was only after the oil or because they believed America is always and in every situation wrong


Reading shit like that, which is a full on personal attack on, well, us, who still thinks Mike Stark was wrong to go after olielly at home?


GravatarBonds seems to be rising to the occasion by showing the class.
Gomez


Agreed. I think his embrace of his son at home plate was touching - reminded me of McGwire and his son in '98.


GravatarHow about the SENSELESS KILLING you get with war?
Gomez

Hey it's their fault. 'They' started it.
I recall one asshole sitting in a bar telling me America always does the right thing. I told him I never before met anyone who dropped out of school in 5th grade.
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GravatarBonds seems to be rising to the occasion by showing the class.
Gomez

Bonds showing class??!?!?!?

Tell me you're being snarky.


GravatarSinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 10:57 pm | #

We are all a cause in the matter of our lives....the response that Bonds is receivng is richly deserved.


GravatarThe author misunderstood Burke, and the nature of "nothing."
NTodd, Special


Same guy, Neil Steinberg is his name, wrote a column after the Codpiece photo op, saying that those who criticized Bush were just stick up their ass stick in the muds who couldn't appreciate that Our Only President Just Likes To Have Fun.

He's a strange kind of guy. The heart of a FoxNews watcher, but too well-read and well-educated to make the jump. And now, as I said, claims to have always opposed the war.


GravatarMy educator mom was quizzing me the other day RE favorite books from my Middle School years - all I could really remember were trashy "adult" novels of the Stone/Arthur Hailey/Irving Wallace school. Hot shit when you're 13!

I remember finding a copy of Peyton Place at someone's house where I was babysitting. Now that was some trash!


GravatarYup, Jesus said he came with a sword. Weird guy, that hippie.
NTodd, Special


I'd better get out and beat my plowshares into swords.


GravatarI remember finding a copy of Peyton Place

Lady Chatterly's Lover was my find...


GravatarAgreed. I think his embrace of his son at home plate was touching - reminded me of McGwire and his son in '98.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:01 pm | #

I hope he didn't squeeze too hard!


GravatarAaron had something Bonds will never have. That class thing, again.

Babe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard.


GravatarMy sister used to be on it. Dick Clark sat next to her once on the air and commented on her flaming red carrot top hair.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 10:49 pm | #

-I've got video of Dick Clarke showing kids the Strawberry Fields video for the first time and having them comment about it. Mostly, they said "They look OLD!" I'll see if I can find it.


GravatarBabe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard.
Gomez


You got a fuckin' prollem with that pal?


/falls off of chair/


GravatarJesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.


Gravatar"Babe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard."

you say that like it's a bad thing.


GravatarSorry, it's caturday


Gravatarthat funkin' duncan has neglected his threads.

suppose he was smitten by the satan kos?


GravatarThe thing we may forget today is that Aaron broke Ruth's record while contending with death threats and lots of overt racism. After all, he was playing in the deep South and it was 1974. No way Bonds does the same thing in the same environment, with or without 'roids.


GravatarTell me you're being snarky.
Deacon Blues


Bonds has been derided enough.

The guy does have terrific eye-hand coordination. And yes he's been an asshole.

But...we've all said that.

He still made it most of the way on his own.


GravatarBabe Ruth, though? Pretty much a drunkard.
Gomez

You got a fuckin' prollem with that pal?


/falls off of chair/
Jim | 08.04.07 -


Here's the punchline - I'm too tired to write the setup...

"So it was Schlitz, the beer that made Mel Famie walk us."
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Gravatarhow about a new fucking thread, you fucking uncivil moonbats?


GravatarSorry, it's caturday
That was NOT a cat.

/grumble, grumble

Bought the Baby Kitty a pretty pink collar with a bell on it today. She has spent the last five hours thinking that she is her own toy.


Gravatarthat funkin' duncan has neglected his threads.

suppose he was smitten by the satan kos?
fokowi at lake cabin


If I was the Orangefest, I'd be drunk by now too.


GravatarJesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #

If he were to be in America today, he would be vilified.


GravatarI remember telling my fundy training partner at the time that the war was a fuckup. I told him that Iraq was like Yugoslavia, an unnatural state held together by a strong dictator, and that Iraq naturally wants to be three different countries: one Kurd, one Sunni, one Shiite. He just couldn't hear that -- he thought removing Hussein (he gassed his own people!!) was justification enough for the invasion.


GravatarWere Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...


GravatarWe won't get a new thread if we don't have anyone here with keys ...


Gravatar"If I was the Orangefest, I'd be drunk by now too."

he's probably doing shots with hillary.


Gravatarthat funkin' duncan has neglected his threads.

suppose he was smitten by the satan kos?
fokowi at lake cabin


They're both doing Kit Seeyle.


GravatarBonds has been derided enough.

Sorry, Charlie. Not even close.

He's no Dick Cheney, but in baseball terms he's about as bad.


GravatarOK, I admit the reason I was looking at the NYT magazine to begin with, is that the Ethicist is one of my guilty pleasures.
That and "O" magazine, which I never buy, but flip through standing in line at the checkout.


GravatarJesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #

If he were to be in America today, he would be vilified.
SharedHumanity


Sadly, yes. I am not religious, but I do understand his point of view.


GravatarWere Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat |


Exactly.
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Gravatar"The thing we may forget today is that Aaron broke Ruth's record while contending with death threats and lots of overt racism."

I remember my grandmother having a fit that Aaron had more at bats so he shouldn't get the record. funny - cause in general she was not my racist grandparent.


GravatarWere Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat


Yep. And more irony? But for the color barrier in baseball, Hank Aaron might well have been chasing Josh Gibson's record.


GravatarI know Bonds is a hopped up jerk, but isn't that also true of Curt Schilling and (at least the hopped up part) Maguire ?


GravatarOK, I admit the reason I was looking at the NYT magazine to begin with, is that the Ethicist is one of my guilty pleasures.

The Ann Landers of ethics. Sorry....


GravatarSorry, Charlie. Not even close.

He's no Dick Cheney, but in baseball terms he's about as bad.
edub


Baseball is all about cheating.

Spitballs, stealing signs. No biggie.


GravatarDear Harry and Nancy,

Go fuck yourselves.

Very truly yours...


GravatarI don't know about hopped up, but Curt Schilling is a world-class jerk, no doubt about it.


GravatarWere Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat |

Exactly.
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Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 11:09 pm | #

And likely, if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily.


GravatarI don't give a shit what conditions Bonds is working in, or that he used 'roids, or is a total dick. He hit 755. Period.

Comparing eras is dumb. Pretending baseball or any sport was ever pure is dumber.


GravatarWere Bonds looking to break Babe Ruth's record rather than Hank Aaron's, I'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
ProfWombat


He's still getting some racist crap, which just proves how stupid that crowd is.

Roger Maris got all kinds of crap too, including the original asterisk, but I don't think he was one-tenth of the asshole Barry is.


GravatarAlex Rodriguez baserunning, trying to knock balls loose...


GravatarJesus was/is a hippie. That is the point.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:04 pm | #

Jesus would be part of the "far left", and would never be allowed on any major news network.

He'd have his own blog, though.


GravatarI'd bet he'd be getting his share of racist crap about it...
Wombat,
Our own hometown nine has a pretty shameful history of institutionalized racism...


GravatarAnd likely, if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily.
SharedHumanity


See, e.g., McGwire, Mark.


Gravatar"I know Bonds is a hopped up jerk, but isn't that also true of Curt Schilling and (at least the hopped up part) Maguire ?"

Maguire was juiced for sure - as were sosa and palmeiro. Shilling is a jerk, but he's usually able to threat the press well, so he gets a pass.


Gravatarbill buckner: it continues to astonish me that David Ortiz, a big black guy with a white wife, is the toast of the town...


GravatarPretending baseball or any sport was ever pure is dumber.

Ain't that the truth. The only reason they make rules for these things, I think, is to see how far they can bend them...


GravatarHe'd have his own blog, though.
Janeane


Yeah, but he would be all self-contradictory and speak in parables that no one would get, and he would hire four front pagers who fuck every thing up


GravatarBonds will lead off the 4th inning in a few moments. First crack at 756.


GravatarI don't watch baseball much. I'm from Chicago, where it's very painful to watch baseball.


GravatarI think I can hack us to a new thread:

duncan.window/es/servo300fstop/enterxprod.new.new

Did it work?


Gravatarlogion

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source lo·gi·on (lō'gē-ŏn') Pronunciation Key
n. pl. lo·gi·a (-gē-ə Bible

A saying attributed to Jesus in the Gospels or in other ancient sources.
One of a collection of sayings of Jesus reputedly in circulation in the early Church, most of which are not recorded in the Gospels but which may have belonged to the source material from which the Gospels were compiled.

the 'most of which are not recorded' is the part i dig. it's part of the logic of it all. there are some things so obvious they need not be written down. the source material...

as in: 'we hold these truths to be self evident...'

tell me there's a difference...


Gravatar"if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily."

Like Maguire.


GravatarDear Harry and Nancy,

Go fuck yourselves.

Very truly yours...
dave™© | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:11 pm


Awwwww crap.

If the Busheviks don't burn the files before they leave, at some point in the future there will be a period of Merkins opening their Stasi files and finding out how unAmerican this government has been.


GravatarShilling is a jerk, but he's usually able to threat the press well, so he gets a pass.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 11:13 pm | #


Of course, just like Nixon. Shilling is a fucking fascist. Get over it.


GravatarMaguire was juiced for sure - as were sosa and palmeiro. Shilling is a jerk, but he's usually able to threat the press well, so he gets a pass.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


Other than McGwire, the other three all played for the Orioles at one time or another. Makes me proud to be an O's fan.


GravatarIf the Busheviks don't burn the files before they leave, at some point in the future there will be a period of Merkins opening their Stasi files and finding out how unAmerican this government has been.
Tom - 大肚腩 |


Our own "Truth and Reconciliation Commission"?
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GravatarBonds is a hopped up jerk, but isn't that also true of Curt Schilling and (at least the hopped up part) McGwire?

The jerk part is definitely true for McGwire... but he could cry for the camera.

The biggest fucking asshole in the Giants' clubhouse for years was - Jeff Kent. He stabbed his teammates in the back on a regular basis and was an all-around prick. But he got along with the sportswriters, so he got a pass.

Oh... and he was white.


Gravatarwho did Bonds get his hit off of?


GravatarI told him that Iraq was like Yugoslavia, an unnatural state held together by a strong dictator, and that Iraq naturally wants to be three different countries: one Kurd, one Sunni, one Shiite.

See, I don't think that. I think countries based on ethnic or religious identity are a step backwards. I was against it because I believe being the ones to start a war puts you in the wrong from the get go, & it's human nature that people don't want to be invaded by outsiders.


Gravatar"if Bonds were a white man who had been accused of using steroids, he would be cheered more readily."

Like Maguire.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.04.07 - 11:14 pm | #

You're right. The MSM loved Maguire, who was hopped up on steroids as well. After his "historic" home run season, I don't think he ever played a full season after that.


GravatarCoke me, Uncle Blodge.


GravatarBaseball is all about cheating.

Spitballs, stealing signs. No biggie.
Gomez


Yeah, totally equivalent to 'roids. Just ask the Tour de France and their laissez faire attitude to such activities.

That's why McGwire was a first time HOF inductee, right?


GravatarDick Cheney's going to burn everything.
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GravatarWhat really gets me is that I'm far from convinced the Cleavage can win this thing.

Imagine all these unitary executive powers in the hands of the kerik administration.


GravatarBTW, Ty Cobb was a prick for the ages.


GravatarSome titles I'm thinking about using for a poem/film or both....

Tears Wanted....

Where Are Your Tears Tonight?

May all your tears flow with joy...


GravatarI'm from Chicago, where it's very painful to watch baseball.
Most beautiful ballpark in America. Period. And, no I don't mean Comiskey...


Gravatarwho did Bonds get his hit off of?
Nancy Willing


San Diego's Clay Hensley.


GravatarBaseball is all about cheating.

No Little League is all about cheating. Grow up.


GravatarHonestly, I don't care who's juiced or not. Performance drugs like recreatioal drugs will always be there. You might as well leagalize both. The playing field (so to speak) will be level.


Gravatar"Roger Maris got all kinds of crap too, including the original asterisk, but I don't think he was one-tenth of the asshole Barry is."

Maris was lousy with the sportwriters. that's why he was portrayed as a jerk - supposedly in real life he was a good old fashioned family man.

the commissioner of baseball who laid the asterisk on Maris was Ford Frick - who had been the writer who worked on babe Ruth's autobiography. I'd call that a conflict of interest.


GravatarThe biggest fucking asshole in the Giants' clubhouse for years was - Jeff Kent.

His pron stash was teh hit though.


GravatarYeah, totally equivalent to 'r--

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GravatarWho gots keys to this thangee and whatevrs?


GravatarThere were so many reasons to be against this war--strategic, Constitutional, moral, situational (ie, it was clear by the spring of '02 that Bush could fuck up a one car funeral) --I couldn't tell you even today what my first objection was. Every one was first among equals


GravatarThe Ann Landers of ethics. Sorry....

I know, I just can't help myself.


Gravatarbill buckner | 08.04.07 - 11:17 pm | #

Ain't arguing with that. Wrigley Field is beautiful, a real ambience than modern ballparks can only hint at. I like it at night...

If only the team was better...


GravatarThat's why McGwire was a first time HOF inductee, right?
edub


McGwire will get in the HOF. So will Bonds. Bonds on the first try. He earned it before he roided up.


GravatarMmmmm ... Erin Andrews.


GravatarBTW, Ty Cobb was a prick for the ages.

Abso-fucking-lutely.


Gravatar...I was against it because I believe being the ones to start a war puts you in the wrong from the get go, & it's human nature that people don't want to be invaded by outsiders.
Karin

I agree with you there. My fear was that we would unleash and get caught in the midst of ethnic/religious/sectarian violence in the aftermath of the invasion.


Gravatar"Coke me, Uncle Blodge."

COKE!!!


GravatarThe Ann Landers of ethics. Sorry....

I know, I just can't help myself.
Karin


Well, Sunday mornings, me too.


GravatarNo Little League is all about cheating. Grow up.
cosmic tumbler


Gaylord Perry was no Little Leaguer.


GravatarIf only the team was better...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


Madame, are talking about the team that is currently (almost) in first place in their division and is GOING ALL THE FUCKING WAY THIS TIME BAY-BEEEEEEE


GravatarBTW, Ty Cobb was a prick for the ages.

Abso-fucking-lutely.
dave™© | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #

A prick and a half...


GravatarTrivia: who threw the last legal spitball in the major leagues?


GravatarGaylord Perry was no Little Leaguer.
Gomez


Love you dood.


GravatarJim | 08.04.07 - 11:21 pm | #

Curb your enthusiasm, dear Cub fan.

They have been known to disappoint from time to time....


GravatarBONDS HIT NO. 755

Is it going to have a little dagger by it in those lists like Ann Coulter's books?


GravatarTrivia: who threw the last legal spitball in the major leagues?

Leslie Nelson?


GravatarThey have been known to disappoint from time to time....
Janeane T


With that kind of attitude, the Great Pumpkin will never come.

The Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.


GravatarWhen using the words "dagger" and "Ann Coulter" in the same sentence, I would prefer to include the words "plunge" and "heart" as well.


GravatarIf only the team was better...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 08.04.07 - 11:19 pm | #

Half game out of first and beat the Mets today.


GravatarSpeaking of pricks, I like this:

"We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.

Yes, because it's not like the Dems have the majority in the House and the Sena-- ohwaitaminnit...


Gravatar"are talking about the team that is currently (almost) in first place in their division and is GOING ALL THE FUCKING WAY THIS TIME BAY-BEEEEEEE"

you did it now. you never say - "boy are the doing well". I said that about my Phillies and the injuries just started happening.


GravatarWhen using the words "dagger" and "Ann Coulter" in the same sentence, I would prefer to include the words "plunge" and "heart" as well.
Sinfonian,


I'm not sure of the science, but I think you need a wooden stake dipped in holy water.


GravatarIs it going to have a little dagger by it in those lists like Ann Coulter's books?

None of McGwire's do - so why should it?


GravatarThe Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Jim


Now, that is very funny.


GravatarDon't count the Brewers out. After their dugout dust-up they came back to win. And won again tonight.


GravatarThe last legal spitball was thrown by Burleigh Grimes of the Brooklyn Dodgers. I don't remember the years exactly, but when the spitball was outlawed, all pitchers currently throwing it were grandfathered in and allowed to continue. Grimes had the longest career of any spitball pitcher thereafter.


Gravatarwho threw the last legal spitball in the major leagues? Burleigh Grimes


GravatarGaylord Perry was no Little Leaguer.

Baseball is not beanbag.


Gravatar"We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.

You fucking lame-assed dorkwad.


GravatarThe Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Eamus catuli, bro...


GravatarI agree with you there. My fear was that we would unleash and get caught in the midst of ethnic/religious/sectarian violence in the aftermath of the invasion.
Deacon Blues


I recall as a teen during high school (60s) talking to a fellow who was a German soldier in occupied France during WWII. He told me a story of how a close friend of his was ambushed and killed by some French. HE was angry at the French because his friend was such a nice guy.
When the Iraq War was started I used to wonder how many US soldiers would suffer the same fate. About 75% of the nearly 4,000 dead so far.
.


Gravataryou did it now. you never say - "boy are the doing well". I said that about my Phillies and the injuries just started happening.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


I now want to with draw my "Fuck You" of two nights ago.


GravatarMcGwire will get in the HOF. So will Bonds. Bonds on the first try. He earned it before he roided up.
Gomez


Pete Rose, bitches!!!!

Hank never took steroids. Neither did Ruth. If Bonds did, let him admit it. All in the open. Once and for all.

Then we can see about HOF.


GravatarNice work, Blodge.


GravatarPiniella kicking his hat may have voided the Billy Goat Curse.


GravatarIf the Cubs win it all, I'll be very happy. But being a Cub fan is similar to constant heartbreak and sadness in a love life, a "prisoner of pain", so to speak.


GravatarYou fucking lame-assed dorkwad.

Gawrsh, Mr. NTodd, you use yore tongue purdier'n a twenny dollah whore!


Gravatar"We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.

Fer Chrissake. They were unable to stop it? Chimpy's will was too strong for them to resist? Darth Cheney has incriminating photos of them in his safe?


GravatarBut he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.


As previously noted, fuck those fucking fuckers.

You know, last night, I took a considerable amount of shit for saying that Mike Stark was wrong to confront Billo at his home. I am seriously beginning to rethink my position.


GravatarIf Bonds did, let him admit it.

Hey, I got a better idea - let's see MLB come up with a dirty test.

Just for the hell of it...


GravatarThe Cubs can only fold if we, the American People, lose our will in supporting them.
Jim

Now, that is very funny.
cosmic tumbler


Weird article in my daily about a 900 page biography of Steve Goodman. Love that guy, glad he's getting the press. Died at 36 of cancer I hear tell.


Gravatar"I now want to with draw my "Fuck You" of two nights ago."

don't remember that. if you wanna, by all means do.


GravatarESPN's Erin Andrews wants me. She just doesn't know it yet.

Wow.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate


Those boobs may have been created with steroids.


GravatarFer Chrissake. They were unable to stop it? Chimpy's will was too strong for them to resist? Darth Cheney has incriminating photos of them in his safe?
Karin | 08.04.07 - 11:27 pm | #

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The Force of the Dark Side is strong.


GravatarBTW, why do I keep hearing Steny Fucking Hoyer? Where the FUCK is Pelosi?

I'd like to see both of them out on their ass, frankly, but Hoyer the Whore first.


GravatarTinyPorcelainMouse | 08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #

Goodman died in 1984, and was life long Cub fan. They were in the playoffs that year (first time in 39 years), and wanted them to win the World Series before he died, if I remember rightly.

Sadly, Mr. Goodman was disappointed...


GravatarHE was angry at the French because his friend was such a nice guy.

And now we have twenty year olds saying they want to stay in Iraq to avenge their buddies, and this is treated as an important argument in foreign policy debates by our elected representatives.

thoughts like that make it hard to stick to the iced green tea.


GravatarThe Phils lose on the road so they don't have to lose at home.
.


GravatarOkay. Time to head out. Nytol!


GravatarThose boobs may have been created with steroids.
Gomez


I'll volunteer to conduct the test.

She is SMOKIN' hot. Sorry. Just stating facts. Wow.


GravatarSinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:31 pm | #

Cold showers for you, young man...


GravatarWeird article in my daily about a 900 page biography of Steve Goodman. Love that guy, glad he's getting the press. Died at 36 of cancer I hear tell.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 08.04.07 - 11:28 pm | #

A class act and a Cub fan....


GravatarThe Phils lose on the road so they don't have to lose at home.
.
Agent Orange


Gravatarthoughts like that make it hard to stick to the iced green tea.
Jim |


I remember just shaking my head when the German soldier told me the story. Thinking like wtf did you expect?
.


GravatarMOtherfuckers

House Approves Wiretap Bill

Sunday August 5, 2007 3:31 AM


By CHARLES BABINGTON

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House handed President Bush a victory Saturday, voting to expand the government's abilities to eavesdrop without warrants on foreign suspects whose communications pass through the United States.

The 227-183 vote, which followed the Senate's approval Friday, sends the bill to Bush for his signature. He had urged Congress to approve it, saying Saturday, ``Protecting America is our most solemn obligation.''


GravatarBut being a Cub fan is similar to constant heartbreak and sadness in a love life...
But then someday they will suprise you. See Red Sox -2004 - a feat that I was sure that I'd never live long enough to see...


GravatarGoodman was being treated for leukemia during a good part of his career. His songs have not the slightest shred of maudlin self-pity to them...


GravatarAnd now we have twenty year olds saying they want to stay in Iraq to avenge their buddies, and this is treated as an important argument in foreign policy debates by our elected representatives.

thoughts like that make it hard to stick to the iced green tea.
Jim | 08.04.07 - 11:30 pm | #

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Ther is no worse source of information about what should be policy than the man (or woman) on the ground. Just ask anyone who's been there. There is a reason they say they are like mushrooms.


GravatarTrivia: who threw the last legal spitball in the major leagues?

Ingemar Johansson? I'm sports-challenged, but my brother won a game of trivial pursuit with that answer once, so I like to use it.


GravatarI don't mean to harsh anyone's buzz, but George Will is a Cubs fan.

If they win, he's happy.


GravatarHouse Approves Wiretap Bill

Sons of bitches. My liver will never survive this.


Gravatarbill buckner | 08.04.07 - 11:32 pm | #

Hope so on the Cubs (and a lot of other things too)...


GravatarHouse Approves Wiretap Bill

Sons of bitches. My liver will never survive this.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty


Relax. It's a hoax.


Gravatardo me a favor??? should duncan ever come back to the blue lagoon and start a new thread... let me know.

i need to go out on the deck and do some thinking and drinking.

again.


GravatarI don't mean to harsh anyone's buzz, but George Will is a Cubs fan.

If they win, he's happy.
Gomez |


Broken clocks and all.... Zell Miller and I both named our yellow labs after Gus MacRae in Lonesome Dove.


GravatarGomez | 08.04.07 - 11:34 pm | #

If the Cubs win, will Will become a liberal?

Who the fuck wants to be a Republican today anyway?


GravatarHouse Approves Wiretap Bill

Sons of bitches. My liver will never survive this.
ThinlyVeiled Now w/ Baby Kitty


Well, it all comes down to that, does it not? We, are not represented.


GravatarHis songs have not the slightest shred of maudlin self-pity to them...
ProfWombat


Quite the opposite I'm learning.


GravatarOK, new thread.

NOW!

I mean it.


GravatarFUCK!

I thought it was a hoax. I really did. Timeline was 3:00 am on there.

But it's true. Goddammit!!!


GravatarSome pretty powerful anti-war songs...."Ballad of Penny Evans".


GravatarIngemar Johansson? I'm sports-challenged, but my brother won a game of trivial pursuit with that answer once, so I like to use it.
Karin


Wow.


GravatarIf Thers shows up and starts a new thread I've got a real good heart healthy bacon link for him.
.


Gravatar"But then someday they will suprise you."

well as a phils fan I got 1980. and 1993, they didn't win but they were fun.
and schmidt and carlton and Garry maddox (the ocean covers 2/3 of the worlds surface. Garry Maddox covers the rest) and tug and pete rose and now ryan howard and chase utley.

but mostly - it's like tonight. 3 home runs but a 2 run homer by the other guys and a 6-5 loss dammit.


Gravatarbut George Will is a Cubs fan.
Thought he was an Orioles fan? (It's not their fault...)


GravatarI thought it was a hoax. I really did. Timeline was 3:00 am on there.


Took it off the Guardian website.


Have some calming Steve Goodman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=PGJl3htASJE


GravatarEverybody thought this was a Buffett song...it wasn't:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...related& search=


GravatarHere's the House roll call on FISA. 41 Dems voted yea.


GravatarBut it's true. Goddammit!!!
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate
.

They do this shit in the middle of the night.


Gravatar"Ingemar Johansson?"

beat floyd patterson for the heavyweight title then lost it in the rematch. no baseball


GravatarEarl Pomeroy voted for this POS?

I thought he was one of the good ones.


Gravatarbeat floyd patterson for the heavyweight title then lost it in the rematch. no baseball
Uncle Blodge


Funny.


GravatarFuck. It's called the "Protect America Act"
God I truly hate these mother fuckers. To be heard during Election 2008, "My opponenet voted against the Protect America Act".
This nation is doomed.
.


GravatarWell, let's hope they wiretap the Senate. LOL.


GravatarHere's the House roll call on FISA. 41 Dems voted yea.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:39 pm | #

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Atleast my Rep, Tammy Baldwin, sticks to her guns. Anyone whose Rep voted for this travesty needs to contact them immediately.


GravatarIf Thers shows up and starts a new thread I've got a real good heart healthy bacon link for him.
If Thers shows up and starts a new thread, I will personally go to his house and cook him all the bacon he can eat.

Sweet mother of god, I am weeping for my country. Seriously. After the '04 election, my SO and I talked seriously of moving to Greece, where he is from. I'm thinking it's time to revisit that conversation. If the Dems won't stand up to a President with a 30% (if that) approval rating in the midst of a clusterfuck of a war of his own making, if they can't see that he's used the Constitution to wipe his scrawny white ass every day for the last 7 years, despite the veritable SCREAMING of the public for them to stand the fuck up, then I don't know how the Republic can stand. I honestly don't.


Gravatar"Funny."

thank you - but I won't quit my day job just yet.


GravatarI see Herseth on that House Yea list. Wasn't she one of the Act Blue
candidates?


GravatarDon't forget the memorial day support for the "Surge" that the dems proudly voted for as well. I won't.


GravatarThe 'Protect America Act'. I don't know if they're more like Nazis or like children.
.


GravatarSweet mother of god, I am weeping for my country. Seriously. After the '04 election, my SO and I talked seriously of moving to Greece, where he is from.

My SO and I found a place also. Evey day it seems more like a reality.


GravatarEvening all.

Is this an alarmingly long thread or is it just me?


GravatarI am proud to say that my Representative, Mike Capuano, DID NOT VOTE YEA on the FISA bill!


GravatarThe 'Protect America Act'. I don't know if they're more like Nazis or like children.
.
Agent Orange | 08.04.07 - 11:45 pm | #

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Nazi's.


GravatarNutroots:

"Another electric problem! More water problems!

Give up! Give up! Give up!"

Nutroots don't solve problems, they whine, moan, twitter, and blame all problems on Bush...

[nutroot twats = hilarious!...hilarity...]


GravatarYeah, Herseth was Act Blue. And I had a crush on her, too. Thing is, though, being a D in South Dakota is different than being a D in, say, Massachusetts.


Gravatarnobody's got the keys, steve


GravatarSeriously. After the '04 election, my SO and I talked seriously of moving to Greece, where he is from. I'm thinking it's time to revisit that conversation.

I'm thinking a small town on the Breton or Normand coast. Y'all can come by for a calvados.


GravatarEvening all.

Is this an alarmingly long thread or is it just me?
steve simels


Well, there is the absence of music.


GravatarNEW THREAD NOW!

It's taking forever to load!


GravatarI will personally go to his house and cook him all the bacon he can eat.

Oh, had some green beans soaked in worcestershire sauce and a slice of "Wright's" bacon tonight as a side. Good.


Gravatar" I'm thinking it's time to revisit that conversation."

I would.


Gravataranybody got a paper towel? there's troll shit on the rug.


GravatarOh fuck the fuck off you fucking troll. Are you so completely fucking stupid that you don't realize that if they have their way, you're no better off than us dirty fucking hippies? Do you think because you waved your Chinese-made flag and put your yellow ribbon on your SUV that you'll be any better off than the rest of us? Do the world a favor and go drown yourself, asshole.


GravatarI was asked today if I was a Democrat. For the first time, I answered, "No".

so sad


GravatarMaybe I'll retire early and move to fucking Poland and live like a Prince.
.


GravatarI'm preparing the House D-FUCKED caucus post now. The Senate version is available here.


GravatarDon't take me wrong, if you feel you need to leave, do. I'll stay and fight!


GravatarDon't hit refresh comments on Crooks and Liars. It freezes your computer...


Gravatarjim,

you find one of those hated "ChristoFascists" lurking under your futon with a tape recorder?

i.e., prompting you to move from this Fascist hell of the USA?


[...hilarity continuing!...]


GravatarKristol and Will are going to be fucking impossible tomorrow morning.
.


GravatarThat cain't be Walter Neff. Not even the evil one.


GravatarDon't take me wrong, if you feel you need to leave, do. I'll stay and fight!
dmark


Well, I'm old and I have fought for many years. Now, I just want to leave it alone and find a place where peace is the norm.


GravatarThere was a call for music. Well, in (dis)honor of tonight's House vote, here's Rockwell.


GravatarKristol and Will are going to be fucking impossible tomorrow morning.
.
Agent Orange


Will may surprise you. Kristol will not.


GravatarDemocratic Candidates Spar at ‘Nutroots’ Forum

CHICAGO, Aug. 4 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday vigorously defended her practice of accepting political contributions from lobbyists, drawing a blunt distinction from two leading rivals as she promised an audience of liberal bloggers here that she would not be unduly influenced by special interests.



I'm so sick of that cunt.


GravatarThis is depressing.
crap


GravatarYes, because it's not like the Dems have the majority in the House and the Sena-- ohwaitaminnit...
dave™© | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:24 pm


And can control what comes to the floor for votes... nah... it's not the leadership's fault.

so ya go in to the August recess doing an own goal and handing the Pretzelnitwit momentum. Are the idiots trying to lose '08?


GravatarI was so gonna blow ya'll off and go watch my VHS of "The Thing" (John Carpenter version) and my VCR ate it up good. So,


GravatarI'm an indie now


GravatarFuckin' Heath Shuler ("D"-N.C.) voted yea.

After Americans worked so hard to get him in office. Fuck.


GravatarDemocratic Candidates Spar at ‘Nutroots’ Forum


Malkin or Althouse?


GravatarLubyanka | 08.04.07 - 11:51 pm | #

No, he is just likely repulsed by the stink of evil.


Gravatarshe promised an audience of liberal bloggers here that she would not be unduly influenced by special interests.

Well I guess it depends on what your meaning of 'unduly' is.
.


Gravatarsteve simel

me, too


GravatarI'm so sick of that cunt.
steve simels


Me too.


Gravatar WalterNeff


GravatarNo, he is just likely repulsed by the stink of evil.
SharedHumanity


I wouldn't even bother responding to Magda. A fat, pimply virgin who thinks other people shooting guns make him more manly.


GravatarI'm so sick of that cunt.
steve simels | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:53 pm | #


Wow -- I'm sure everybody believes that was really me and a not a scumbag namestealer.

Way to go, scumbag namestealer.


GravatarTralfaz

If only we could "Move to the Groove with Shannon", things would be steadier.


GravatarWell, I'm old and I have fought for many years. Now, I just want to leave it alone and find a place where peace is the norm.
cosmic tumbler | 08.04.07 - 11:52 pm | #

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I'm no spring chicken but dammit they CANT HAVE MY COUNTRY! (Sorry I yelled)


GravatarI have no idea who I would vote for - nobody?


GravatarWhat kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
What's next, trolls calling themselves Auschwitz and Treblinka?


GravatarOh, and BTW -- I'm willing to be that scumbag namestealer is Butler/annie/shoe or The Little Sociopath(TM).

A class act....


Gravatar WalterNeff

Without the slanties, I owe you one.


Gravatarfwiw, two - TWO - Republicans voted against: Johnson of Illinois and Jones of N.C.


GravatarSimels:

quit the Victorian restraint: tell us what you think of Hillary


GravatarYeah, Herseth was Act Blue. And I had a crush on her, too. Thing is, though, being a D in South Dakota is different than being a D in, say, Massachusetts.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:46 pm


Like folks in South Dakota don't care about big gubmint gettin' all in to your bizness.

Go home and everytime the press asks you a question, read them the 4th amendment.


GravatarWalter Neff
too bad people from the NW aren't allowed to run for president, because Insley, Blumenauer or DeFazio would be great presidents.


GravatarWhat kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
What's next, trolls calling themselves Auschwitz and Treblinka?
Karin


You do rock.


Gravatar Republicans voted against: Johnson of Illinois and Jones of N.C.
Sinfonian,


Johnson is a surprise. Jones has been all over the map on this for a couple of years now.


GravatarWeird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.


GravatarOh, and BTW -- I'm willing to be that scumbag namestealer is Butler/annie/shoe or The Little Sociopath(TM).

A class act....
steve simels | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:57 pm


duh! obsessive compulsives can't walk away and enjoy life.


GravatarJim | 08.04.07 - 11:56 pm | #

You're right Jim.


GravatarLubyanka has been that way ever since the Tate-Lubyanka murders in the 60's

Not many people know that.


GravatarHere's the House roll call on FISA. 41 Dems voted yea.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate


Hmmmm, my Rep Don "Up to his Ass in Scandal" Young was among the NonVoting.

WTF, over?


GravatarWhat kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
A self-hating, closeted Cheeto-eating, bedwetting moron who needs Big Daddy to fuck him in the ass to make him feel noticed and important and protected and special.

That would be my guess.


GravatarWeird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:59 pm


Like I said about Herseth, these dudes aren't willing to go home and get painted as the guys that destroyed the Constitution in the next election.


GravatarJay is a family friend


GravatarShared:

Aren't you special!! Aren't you moral!!
Aren't you another preening leftwing twat!


GravatarBTW --

All of the troll(s) tonight are either the Little Sociopath(TM) or Butler/annie/shoe. That includes that Soviet prison idiot.

The prose style is unmistkable.


GravatarWeird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS


I owes ya a fizzy beverage.


GravatarI was so gonna blow ya'll off and go watch my VHS of "The Thing" (John Carpenter version) and my VCR ate it up good. So,

You spelled 'DVD' wrong...


GravatarWhat kind of asshole takes the name of a prison?
What's next, trolls calling themselves Auschwitz and Treblinka?
Karin


I hear that train a comin'...


GravatarWeird. My congresscritter didn't vote. There were 23 not votings, including such luminaries as Hastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian


Why are you surprised? You do live in Florida, right?


GravatarHastert, Tancredo, and Don Young.
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS


Don Young is back in Alaska burning real estate records, Tancredo is burning a cross somewhere, and Hastert is incapacitated with grief over a burnt S'More (he ate it anyway, but it was his last marshmallow and the pain is raw).


Gravatarwww.house.gov isn't accessible. Maybe it's getting hammered?


GravatarLubyanka,

first, you are a silly child. coming here and shitting on the rug merely proves you are not yet toilet trained. if you want to talk to the grown ups, raise your hand and ask politely.

hilarity? from you? no. This board is often funny but you add nothing to it. you annoy and you attempt to harass, but you fail at that. now go sit in the corner and be quiet. the grown ups are talking.


GravatarGonna listen to the Boston beat my Ms - ta ta


GravatarJay is a family friend
WalterNeff, 69,876



GravatarJust got into www.house.gov on the fourth try.

Why are you surprised? You do live in Florida, right?
cosmic tumbler


I'm surprised because Ron Klein has been out in front on most of this stuff. (Yes, I'm in Florida.)


Gravatar"The prose style is unmistakable."

Prose style? that shit is a style? whoever educated this fool really ought to give it a refund.


GravatarSearch and seizure is now not illegal?


How could this have happened?


GravatarAren't you special!! Aren't you moral!!
Aren't you another preening leftwing twat!
Lubemyanus | 08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #

Sorry...you got me wrong....I am a 51 year old father of four...MBA from UofC...business executive with a six figure income.


GravatarAren't you another preening leftwing twat!
Lubyanka | 08.05.07 - 12:01 am | #


"Twat" -- that proves its Butler/annie/shoe.

Classic woman hater pretending to be some kind of feminist. Truly sick..


GravatarLubyanka,

first, you are a silly child. coming here and shitting on the rug merely proves you are not yet toilet trained


And that rug kind of ties the room together.


GravatarBlod:

calm yourself, as befits a teacher...


Gravatarsheets, glorious sheets


GravatarYou do rock.
cosmic tumbler


Slowly, at my age, so I don't throw out my back.


GravatarLubyanka is Zod.


GravatarAll of the troll(s) tonight are either the Little Sociopath(TM) or Butler/annie/shoe. That includes that Soviet prison idiot.

I still think it's Brian Hardig/stemcell jethro/dipshit/liberal jeenyus.


GravatarWe be sheeted, gracias adias.


GravatarI'm surprised because Ron Klein has been out in front on most of this stuff. (Yes, I'm in Florida.)
Sinfonian, mad at CONGRESS


Never trust. Always monitor. Bye-the bye. I liked your radio voice.


Gravatarsimels:

"twat" = an effeminate twit, as fits so many of you defeatist surrender-monkeys


GravatarLubyanka,

that was calm. piss me off and you will see the difference.

you accomplish nothing here besides lowering the average educational level of the posters. you have nothing to contribute.

Now as I said go sit down. if you have something to say ask nicely.


GravatarYeah, Herseth was Act Blue. And I had a crush on her, too. Thing is, though, being a D in South Dakota is different than being a D in, say, Massachusetts.
Sinfonian, mad at teh Senate | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:46 pm

Like folks in South Dakota don't care about big gubmint gettin' all in to your bizness.

Go home and everytime the press asks you a question, read them the 4th amendment.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:57 pm | #

i know stephanie personally. she's ok. even for this crowd.


Gravatar"twat" = an effeminate twit, as fits so many of you defeatist surrender-monkeys
Lubyanka


No, "twat" does not equal "twit" in any way, shape, or form. But since you are clearly the latter, there is no point in expecting you to know the difference.


Gravatarsimels:

"twat" = an effeminate twit, as fits so many of you defeatist surrender-monkeys
Lubyanka | 08.05.07 - 12:07 am | #


Lubyanka=a fat transvestite cheeto eating misogynist reactionary fratboy Texas asshole who won't enlist in the war that he/she supports because its a psychotic coward.

Nice of you to drop by, Butler.

Or is it Toby?


Gravatar"Or is it Toby?"

how can we tell - trollshit is trollshit.


Gravatar'night, all


Gravatar[....hilarity...nutroots being the Gift That Keeps On Giving, humor-wise...]


Gravatarnight, ProfWombat


Gravatar"Ingemar Johansson?"

beat floyd patterson for the heavyweight title


Watched that live through the magic of closed-circuit TV - my dad took me with him to the Paramount.

Buncha temporarily happy white guys, iirc.
-


Gravatar[...unwittingly...]


GravatarPatterson won it back, KO-ing Johansson in their next fight


Gravatarso, i'm out on the deck, right? thinking and... 'er, whatever.

and, imagining a scenario where if i were running for prez and had bill clinton as my campaign manager, and al gore as my lead media person... now all i have to do is pick my vp.

hmmm...... any suggestions?


Gravatar"now all i have to do is pick my vp.

hmmm...... any suggestions?"

Bill Moyers?


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