polling data from the Arab world showed that America's negatives were simply off-the-charts. Everyone was quiet. Condi asked a few technical questions and then finally Karl Rove spoke up. "Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around over there," he said.
Yeah, Karl, cuz everyone loves having someone that they already hate come and start throwing their weight around.
What a moron.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.31.07 - 5:04 pm | #
Actually, I guess we all figured that kind of bullshit was going on.
Richard |
03.31.07 - 5:07 pm | #
I'm going to have a drink now.
I'm going to have several.
Gentlewoman |
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03.31.07 - 5:07 pm | #
It's the war party's version of Jackass.
ponte |
03.31.07 - 5:07 pm | #
From Below
"
When I took my cat up to the vet last week, the tech and I had a hell of a time getting him out of his carrier. It has a carpeted floor and he hooked all 4 feet into it and would not let go."
We have the plastic carriers and when that happens, we take the screws off and remove the top half.
That is a bit of fun for the stunned OS look on the furball's face.
EkCenTriK |
03.31.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Oh, come on, Thers, tell me something I did not know. Hell.
DWD - IRON MAN |
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03.31.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Karl Rove spoke up. "Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around over there," he said.
"We".
Yeah, because you're such a bad ass, Turdblossom.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:08 pm | #
I'm going to have a drink now.
I've had 4 glasses of red wine
Moonbootica, Jog On! |
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03.31.07 - 5:08 pm | #
[almost-posted below]:
• In 1980, Dad voted for John Anderson, both primary and general.
Those were the days, eh? One could vote one's conscience without afterwards being excoriated by bitter supporters of the duopoly's non-winner for everything from "wasting" one's vote to betraying the country. I don't expect we'll ever recover to that point again.
• I don't remember ever hearing about his Dowd dude before, but I assume he's closely related to Maureen Dowd. They share that characteristic Dowd self-serving opportunism.
• I, too, am so delighted by this little critter-- -- that I have to restrain myself from summoning it, lest I overindulge and it goes the way of :rocket: (which I never did see, since I was out of the room when Jeevan allegedly manifested to the multitudes).
Little Brøther |
03.31.07 - 5:09 pm | #
Shock & awe turned out to be shuck & jive.
R. McGeddon |
03.31.07 - 5:09 pm | #
you know invading a country illegally and then proceeding to fuck it up is not a way to be popular.
Moonbootica, Jog On! |
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03.31.07 - 5:09 pm | #
Thers,
Your Seething Webb is in a thermos. Take it along when you go to see Hockenberry (the hell that guy must have gotten as a kid for having a name like that probably made him into the asshole he is today), chug it down and bust his lights out.
bo |
03.31.07 - 5:09 pm | #
That is a bit of fun for the stunned OS look on the furball's face.
EkCenTriK |
This is a not very large soft sided carrier. I had a hell of a time getting him in and we had a hell of a time getting him out. At the vet's - when I opened it after we got home, he exited swiftly!
With all the shit going down in the world these days, why are the fundies getting their panties in a twist over A CHOCOLATE JESUS?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:10 pm | #
a drink? a lot of drinks and then I'm going to smoke a lot of pot.
...why did he wait until now to mention this? I guess courage found late is still courage.
Liars for Bush |
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03.31.07 - 5:10 pm | #
Wow, if only Hockenberry had spoken up sooner we wouldn't be in the war right now! It's all his fault! Damn him!
Shoelimpy™ |
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03.31.07 - 5:10 pm | #
I find that cockslapping a person always makes them feel warm and fuzzy toward me.
NTodd, Kettlepot |
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03.31.07 - 5:11 pm | #
bo, Hockenberry is a good journalist; that's why he's not at NBC anymore, perhaps...
Thers |
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03.31.07 - 5:11 pm | #
"the business is just to grab eyeballs."
So much for reportage.
watertiger |
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03.31.07 - 5:11 pm | #
This war can't be won.
It was a lost cause from the Get-Go.
The members of THIS community knew it all along.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:11 pm | #
With all the shit going down in the world these days, why are the fundies getting their panties in a twist over A CHOCOLATE JESUS?
Terry C
oh and wait until they could see how it turned out? How many FU's until "they" decide it's over?
I better have those drinks now...the more I think about this the angrier I'm getting.
Liars for Bush |
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03.31.07 - 5:11 pm | #
"when I opened it after we got home, he exited swiftly!"
Heh, we had two out of the gates on the return. They took several hours to forgive us this trip. Which is okay, it was peaceful.
EkCenTriK |
03.31.07 - 5:12 pm | #
Terry C - End Bush's War Now wrote: "Yeah, because you're such a bad ass, Turdblossom."
a drink? a lot of drinks and then I'm going to smoke a lot of pot.
...why did he wait until now to mention this? I guess courage found late is still courage.
Liars for Bush
Actually it is called cashing in now that the war is incredibly unpopular. Not like any of it makes any difference.
Shoelimpy™ |
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03.31.07 - 5:12 pm | #
Hockenberry should join up and serve.
Gomez |
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03.31.07 - 5:12 pm | #
the business is just to grab eyeballs
And crush them, in Candy Crowley's case.
Max Planck |
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03.31.07 - 5:13 pm | #
"We're a process that's trying to maintain people in front of the set, so in a certain sense media at that point was doing its own kind of shock-and-awe that went right along with the war's shock-and-awe [because] the business is just to grab eyeballs."
Well, that finally explains why my eyeballs felt like they were being grabbed. Along with the rest of me.
Little Brøther, I, too, love the wavey guy. I smile everytime I see him. Plus, he's two emoticons in one, hi and bye.
mer |
03.31.07 - 5:13 pm | #
With all the shit going down in the world these days, why are the fundies getting their panties in a twist over A CHOCOLATE JESUS?
Because it was brown chocolate.
A white chocolate Jesus wouldn't raise an eyebrow.
SteveNS |
03.31.07 - 5:13 pm | #
Karl Rove spoke up. "Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around over there."
This makes me want to punch the Turd in his larynx.
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
OT:
Just now at lunch, my 88 y/o Mom gotta a call from someone asking her to take a survey. They started off by playing a tape of Gingrch making a pitch for reviving GOPAC. She hung up on before it was over. Heee!
bo |
03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
You people should listen to Shoe, you might learn something.
annieangel |
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03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
Over and over again the feeling that these idiots are a bunch of overage teenagers with an overdose of testosterone is given validity.
Rove's statement alone should have been enough to make a few military guys retire or just leave.
EkCenTriK |
03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
Wow, if only Hockenberry had spoken up sooner we wouldn't be in the war right now! It's all his fault! Damn him!
You are pretty fucking obtuse, Mr Enabler Bastard Child.
NTodd, Kettlepot |
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03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
I'm going to have a drink now.
I believe that I'll join you.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
Why are we just hearing about this shit now?
Gomez |
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03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
Karl Rove spoke up. "Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around over there."
This makes me want to punch the Turd in his larynx.
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ!
I want to go out and find the gal that kicked his ass when they were kids.
Maybe she'll do it again.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:14 pm | #
Hockenberry should join up and serve.
From his wheelchair.
watertiger |
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03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
Hockenberry should join up and serve.
He's a paraplegic.
And he's not the bad guy here; no messenger shooting, plz.
Thers |
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03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
You people should listen to Shoe, you might learn something.
annieangel
Like what a big pussy he is?
Gomez |
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03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
"You people should listen to Shoe, you might learn something.
annieangel"
Wasted words from useless people. Pests.
EkCenTriK |
03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
chocolate Jesus or horrible deaths in Iraq?
which one would news prefer to cover?
wait that question answers itself
Moonbootica, Jog On! |
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03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
As for Matthew Dowd now admitting that Kerry was right; FUCK OFF, YOU PUTZ! You have the blood of over 3,000 dead soldiers on your hands.
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
listen to Shoe, you might learn something.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:15 pm | #
From below: I guess I fell in love.
Can anyone even begin to calculate how much death and destruction has been caused by the patriarchy's requirement that gay men deny to themselves that they are gay and love other men?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
I'm serious! He's very smart and what he says MAKES SENSE!
annieangel |
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03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
Actually if Hockenberry really had such amazing revelationss and kept them quiet, wouldn't he be the enabler?
Jealousy does not suit you, Mr. Todd.
Shoelimpy™ |
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03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
And he's not the bad guy here; no messenger shooting, plz.
Thers
I know.
Its the grabbing eyeballs part that pissed me off.
And we're just hearing it now. Not much of a messenger.
Gomez |
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03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
you get to shoot the messenger if they have held on to the message for four years...kind of late don't cha think?
Liars for Bush |
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03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
I'm going to have a drink now.
I believe that I'll join you.
Save room at the bar for me, please.
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
lightly soiled sheets
JR, kerosene and a match |
03.31.07 - 5:16 pm | #
Isn't he that guy Alan who's living off some woman somewhere?
Or is that another psycho winger?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 03.31.07 - 5:04 pm | #
Yes Shoelimpy is Alan Butler, who graduated from TAMU and moved up to Canada after graduation to sponge off of some woman (annieangel) he met on the internet.
At some point Alan apparently ran off, stealing Annie's ATM card.
Now Annie's moved down to Texas because the last time ended so well for her.
It's really a sad story, actually.
Say, Alan |
03.31.07 - 5:17 pm | #
Newt should GOPAC sand.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:17 pm | #
I'm going to have a drink now.
You have one for me, I'm not a drinker but I feel like I could use one right now.
Jesus X. Crutch |
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03.31.07 - 5:17 pm | #
I'm not in Texas.
annieangel |
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03.31.07 - 5:17 pm | #
bo, Hockenberry is a good journalist; that's why he's not at NBC anymore, perhaps... - Thers
the quote kinna reeked of corporate "we", but you may find another NBC nose to break, if you wish.
bo |
03.31.07 - 5:17 pm | #
And he's not the bad guy here; no messenger shooting, plz.
Thers
Too late! I think Simels already spit on him...
Little Brøther |
03.31.07 - 5:18 pm | #
I want to go out and find the gal that kicked his ass when they were kids.
Maybe she'll do it again.
Or we could just pass Watertiger off as the little girl all grown up. Who would know the difference?
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:18 pm | #
What does that mean, what karl said, "Throwing our weight around". Is that like he was throwing his weight around on stage at the little Rap demo the other night? or is it something even more horrific?
I just have to stop and think about it: What did he mean? What does that phrase "throwing our weight around" actually mean to him?
Miro |
03.31.07 - 5:18 pm | #
He's very smart and what he says MAKES SENSE!
Stop - yer killin' me!
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:18 pm | #
My proxy is not in Texas.
annieangel
FTFY
JR, kerosene and a match |
03.31.07 - 5:18 pm | #
Why are we just hearing about this shit now?
Gomez
Cause CooCoo's Ship of State already rammed that iceberg, and it's going down for about the 2d time now.
One more -
Tena |
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03.31.07 - 5:19 pm | #
What does that phrase "throwing our weight around" actually mean to him?
Miro
Why, killing another half million of those nasty brown, non-Christian folks, of course.
That'd make him and Bush feel so manly.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |
03.31.07 - 5:19 pm | #
i am kind of shocked. For some reason I just figured Dick ran the foreign policy and KKKarl stuck to domestic politics. Is there any place this asshole hasn't inserted his own policy. Jebus, he's fucking college drop out and he's taking the country to war.
ql in ny |
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03.31.07 - 5:21 pm | #
That'd make him and Bush feel so manly.
Geez! Couldn't they have just gotten blow jobs in the "Map Room"?
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:21 pm | #
FTFY
JR, kerosene and a match
Do you even know what you're talking about?
Shoelimpy™ |
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03.31.07 - 5:21 pm | #
Jr, listen, I'm not going to see your stupid Lookout movie with you. I have no interest in dating a steelworker. Gross.
annieangel |
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03.31.07 - 5:21 pm | #
OT:
I like watching the troolz implode. It's rather fun.
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:22 pm | #
Over and over again the feeling that these idiots are a bunch of overage teenagers with an overdose of testosterone is given validity.
Actually it sort of like testosterone deficiency -- you know: like they're trying to over-compensate?
Miro |
03.31.07 - 5:22 pm | #
"America wanted the war to happen."
America wanted it? No, two thirds of the country wanted the U.S. to work through the United Nations, not to go starting random wars of aggression. No, it was the media that pushed the war, it was the media that sold it. Naturally, it was at the behest of the White House. But the media could have said no. The media should have said no. The media actually said "yes, yes, more, more war!"
Were those eyeballs worth it? Did they buy a fancy new house on Long Island? A ski vacation in Colorado? A daughter's prom getup? A couple of swimming pools? A month at Las Vegas?
How many people have to die so the rich can get their jollies?
Vadis |
03.31.07 - 5:22 pm | #
America wanted the war to happen; their job was just to wait and see how it turned out.
Ethics, schmethics.
Hey, NBC: Show us GE's underwear!
masculine_monica_nyc |
03.31.07 - 5:23 pm | #
"How many people have to die so the rich can get their jollies?"
New owls.
Monica A: Buddhist For Christ! |
03.31.07 - 5:23 pm | #
There's more at the link about Hockenberry's tales:
If you're doing a story and they send you, after they see the story, some napkin rings -- silver napkin rings that are monogrammed "Thank you, Jon, for the story," you've got not only to return those, you've got to report those to the standards people at NBC because there's a whole ethics and conflict-of-interest thing.
So at one of these ethics meetings -- I called them the return-the-napkin-ring kinds of meetings -- I raised my hand and said "You know, isn't it a problem that the contract that GE has with the Coalition Provisional Authority [...] to rebuild the power generation system in Iraq [is] about the size of the entire budget of NBC? Is that kind of like the napkin rings thing?"
And the standards people said "Huh. That's interesting. No one's brought that up before."
This is the entire problem. See the trees, the trees! Son't you dare step back and look at the forest. Don't even think about it, mister.
And of course, after the standards people said no one ever brought that up before, they moved right along to the next topic. Ignore anything that points out what's really going on.
Have I mentioned lately how much I hate these corporate pod people?
TheOtherWA |
03.31.07 - 5:24 pm | #
3000 American dead; 50,000 wounded so severely they are the walking dead; not to mention the Iraqis; NBC and the others have blood up to their elbows. The bastards. Rmember this every time they try to honor the scumbag newsmen who kept quiet.
della Rovere |
03.31.07 - 5:47 pm | #
No news is good news. Get rid of the MSM. They suck.
shrimplate |
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03.31.07 - 6:42 pm | #
Holy.
Fucking.
Shit.
Rove hands them exhibit A that the people behind the war are psychotic and delusional -- but that's not a story??? He's one step away from "You know I only beat you because I love you so much, right honey?"
Roddy McCorley |
03.31.07 - 7:02 pm | #
'NBC News didn't think this was a very good idea. America wanted the war to happen; their job was just to wait and see how it turned out. "We're not particularly interested in the story," Hockenberry explains.'
Hey there, Hockenberry. How about naming names? Who wasn't particularly interested? I'd like to hear from that disinterested person, who probably got a promotion from NBC News.
steve ex-expat |
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03.31.07 - 8:02 pm | #
So much blood.
So many hands.
doggril |
03.31.07 - 8:43 pm | #
"Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around over there".
This should be the epitaph for the entire miserable Bush Assministration. The world is a battered wife to their trailer-trash-abusive-husband mentality: "They hate us, but after we start bullying them they'll love us".
The only people stupider than this Kafka-esque clown crew are the droolers who voted for them.
Oh, and fuck you, Jack Welch.
Mike G |
03.31.07 - 9:03 pm | #
And the standards people said "Huh. That's interesting. No one's brought that up before."
Oh yes, the mental veal pen of corporate serfdom. Don't think outside your little box, don't question the big picture because that might threaten the top brass, don't make waves or you're "not a team player". I know this mentality all too well.
Centralized, top-down, heriarchical, profit-seeking organizations are a shitty way to produce many products and services. They are adept at propagandizing, but particularly bad at delivering news with kind of objectivity, balance or accuracy.
tech98 |
03.31.07 - 9:08 pm | #
karl rove rocks !!!!
we all should lick the sweat from his nutsack !!!
that guy knows what to do !!!
kill / murder / rape everybody !!!!
what a GOD he is !!!
ben dover |
03.31.07 - 9:53 pm | #
I'm going to have a drink now.
Me too. Make mine a double.
RT |
03.31.07 - 10:09 pm | #
(slaps forehead)
****NOW***** YA TELL US!
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