I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Pelosi!
Dean!
Eat my chocolate Shelia na Gig.
Seething Webbs all around.
Hey Atrios.
Joe Bageant will be in Philly this Tuesday. Give him a plug!
Buck
I bet Jesus would have loved chocolate if he'd ever been able to travel to Mexico.
Is it Iraq? Economic insecurity? They hate George Bush?
Absolutely!
Wait, people don't like George Bush? When did that happen?
/Chris Matthews' big giant head
I think people are unhappy with all of things you mentioned, Atrios. A large majority is very much opposed to the war, and I think that is the major thing that is bothering Americans. But I also think everyone is sick to death of George W Bush.
And the economy is shaky, too.
s it Iraq? Economic insecurity? They hate George Bush?
Yes.
I think this question more than many others asks people to sort of mush everything together and figure out if the positives outweigh the negatives.
My guess is that people see the country stuck until 2009. Bush is waving around his veto Sharpie, and while the Dems are doing what they can, that damn Sharpie is going to be scribbling like nobody's business.
Which is why legislation matters less than investigation. Chimpy can't veto hearings.
And it's pretty remarkable that the only time the right-track and wrong-track numbers have been close on that table is December 2004.
Talk about fucking buyers' remorse.
We are running at breakneck spped ito oligarchic totalitarianism that is supported directly or indirectly by DLC DEMs along with the lockstep GOP.
The lethargic TeeVee captive country can just barely grasp that their world is theirs to lose and that it will take each one of us to force the country back to health.
I'd say it's:
1. Iraq
2. The economy sucks if you're not a millionaire
3. The dipshit created these two conditions all by his lonesome.
People are worried that Sanjaya will win on American Idol, and Simon will keep his promise to quit should that happen
And it's pretty remarkable that the only time the right-track and wrong-track numbers have been close on that table is December 2004.
Talk about fucking buyers' remorse.
pseudonymous in nc
Yep.
And talk about my getting wish granted - I wished him the worst 2d term in history when we lost the election in '04.
This has got to be just about the worst.
ABC's "This Week"Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; presidential counselor Dan Bartlett; former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson; Cal Ripken Jr., former Baltimore Orioles shortstop.
Lemme guess: Cal's on so Will can wax poetic about the game and further solidfiy his position as the dip of all dipshits, right?
Holy shit! We're have a blogger off or something. Atrios says he's not gonna be around so Thers posts, and Atrios pops up and says psche!
Which is why legislation matters less than investigation. Chimpy can't veto hearings
Plus they make for great TeeVee! I watched Waxman this morning and it put me in a great mood, made me feel hopeful that we "shall overcome".
Pelosi!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Are you saying Pelosi is the reason that Americans don't like the way our country is headed in?
I hate to admit it buy I have to agree with you on that.
People are worried that Sanjaya will win on American Idol, and Simon will keep his promise to quit should that happen
Draco
I couldn't care less about American Idol.
*rushes to catch up*
Cal Ripken, whose former owner was largely responsible for the troubles baseball had in the past ten years.
Bush is waving around his veto Sharpie,
I am so stealing that.
It's definitely all of the above, but I suspect that economic uncertainty and declining wages are at the top of the list.
spinoza, the thread "Thanks for Everything, Matthew" is dedicated to you. (Matthew 15:35)
Limpdicky's theme tune:
'Don't you wish your girlfriend was me, like me?'
It's definitely all of the above, but I suspect that economic uncertainty and declining wages are at the top of the list.
Richar
I think that may be more regional.
I think it is straight up hating on the numbskull, CooCoo Bananas.
Is it Iraq? Economic insecurity? They hate George Bush?
Yes.
This has been an edition of...etc.
You'd think maybe someone would like to have Josh Marshall on to talk about the fired USAs.
Puff, puff, unnnh!
Dammit, dragging the Seething Webb cart upstairs twice in five minutes is a bit of a pain in the ass. I'm leaving the Revolutionary Woodchipper of Justice downstairs.
*rushes to catch up* | Moonbootica, Jog On!
Me too! I was about to say so, but I couldn't catch my breath. 
US President George W Bush Saturday slammed the Democrats for imposing restrictive conditions on war spending and insisted that he will veto both House and Senate versions of the bills on Iraq that contain deadlines for withdrawal ...
Nobody cares what you think, king have-a-beer-with. Shut up, and do as the public tells you.
At least we can assume the "Unsure" people are at least able to answer a telephone.
"(a) Is it Iraq? (b) Economic insecurity? (c) They hate George Bush (d) all of the above?
I pick d.
Talk about fucking buyers' remorse.
And that's why you shouldn't vote based upon personality alone. Shrubby was a fucking legacy who shouldn't have been running a dog pound, but people thought he was a nice Christian boy who loved his momma. Turns he was a psychotic "sunny day Christian" who has a really unhealthy attachment to his momma.
Atrios likes to fake us out a lot. It seems almost everytime he says "light posting", he then proceeds post more often than he does on a regular day.
Shoelimpy need to get a haircut and a shave if he's to get anywhere in the corporate world.
They don't hire hippies you know, and he looks like one.
Nobody cares what you think, king have-a-beer-with. Shut up, and do as the public tells you.
masculine_monica_nyc
Hand him a bottle of Jim Beam and lock the goddamn door behind you.
Atrios likes to fake us out a lot. It seems almost everytime he says "light posting", he then proceeds post more often than he does on a regular day.
Richard | 03.31.07 - 5:33 pm | #
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You are brilliant, Richard.
This has got to be just about the worst.
Tena
George W. Bush. Lame Dufus.
I am so stealing that.
No shit:
"He asks for them by name," says a Bush insider, "and if someone hands him something else, he barks, 'Where's the Sharpie?'" How come? "They're so easy to use," says another Bushie. "And you can see what you've written." Bush's isn't just any Sharpie. Like those famous boxes of peanut M&Ms, Bush's Sharpies carry his signature and the words The White House. He even has Camp David Sharpies. If you're an important aide, the presidential Sharpies are included with a signed golf ball, baseball, tie clip, and cuff links in the White House trinket bag each gets.
So, not only is Bush a Sharpie man (which means fuckloads of bleed-through), he has to have preznitdential Sharpies with his name and 'I R SHARPIE 4 PREZNIT' printed on them. Says it all.
(Picture of preznit Sharpie.)
Look down the page at the NBC/WSJ poll during the Clinton years. Heh, the numbers are different.
bye for now
Shoelimpy looks like a Viking, not a hippie.
Atrios is a big fat liar. That's all there is to it.
I didn't used to hate George W Bush but I eventually came to my senses as a loyal American and began to hate him(about 5 years ago). The reasons mentioned in the original post are just a few of many reasons to be unhappy with the direction of the country. So much bad has come out of Washington in the past 6 years and nothing good. Nothing! And the current administration is the most vile in the history of this country. Completely corrupt.
All of the above.
Plus globalization (which really comes under "economic insecurity").
Newt Gingrich should go fuck himself.
Nobody cares what you think, king have-a-beer-with. Shut up, and do as the public tells you. - masculine_monica_nyc
'xactamente. The next time he starts talking about what he believes as sufficient justification for his actions, I want someone to break out most of his teeth.
Nobody cares what you think, king have-a-beer-with. Shut up, and do as the public tells you.
I love you.
So, not only is Bush a Sharpie man (which means fuckloads of bleed-through), he has to have preznitdential Sharpies with his name and 'I R SHARPIE 4 PREZNIT' printed on them. Says it all.
Yeah, but they work really well on American flags.
Shoelimpy looks like a Viking, not a hippie.
annieangel
Oh, that's so different.
You'd think maybe someone would like to have Josh Marshall on to talk about the fired USAs.
LOL. Against Insider Union rules. Don't want to make people look bad. (Jay Carney-barker showed up somewhere yesterday.)
Remember, Michael Isikoff is 'the journalist who knows most about the Plame case.'™ As opposed to Marcy Wheeler, who actually does know most about it.
I think it is much of the above. What disturbs me is that polls still show Repub candidates beating Dem ones in a general election, and while of course it early and such things can be misleading, I still can't discount the possibility.
So I would we need to keep up a constant effort to associate big Repub names with what people perceive to be wrong with the country, rather that outsiders and problem-solvers.
The reason for the glum mood--the reality is grim. Folks have come to realize how little control we have (if we ever really had it). Katrina laid bare just how vulnerable we all are to climate effects, and revealed our castrated national government. Iraq has shown we are not the international superpower we once believed.
Maybe we are finally moving passed the scared rabbit phase (where we look for someone, anyone, to save us, or at least admit that someone for sure isn't Bush/Republicans).
Just maybe this will lead to a mature awareness that we share this planet, that we're in this together, that the needed solutions will require international cooperation and understanding.
Terry C--I'd have no idea who Sanjaya and Simon were if they didn't keep invading the "real" news
So my more serious response to Atrios is that "news" is part of the malaise. People know on some level, not necessarily explicitly, that they're being fed a lot of BS
My nearly apolitical sister hates all reporters, not drawing distinctions. She can't explain quite why
And that's why you shouldn't vote based upon personality alone.
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this *may* be the corner turned but I won't hold my breath
If they had on Josh Marshall, they'd balance him with Instawanker.
Yeah, but they work really well on American flags.
watertiger
You would prefer the President shit on American flags like you and yours do?
Shoelimpy looks like a Viking, not a hippie.
annieangel
No, he doesn't.
Via TPM:
Former New York Times reporter Judith Miller, who in 2005 spent 85 days in jail for refusing to identify former White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby as a confidential source, said Friday she believes the media failed a major test when reporters and news organizations acquiesced to subpoenas issued them by federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, reports U.S. News & World Report media correspondent Liz Halloran.
"Had the press hung together," Miller said, and had more journalists protested the "pro-forma" confidentiality waivers issued by the White House, the damage done to the media during Fitzgerald's investigation into who leaked to reporters the identity CIA operative Valerie Plame would have been much less.
But, as it stands, she said, the investigation and Libby's recent trial that featured a parade of prominent journalists--including Miller--on the witness stand is cause for "enormous concern." Miller, speaking at the National Press Club during a media forum, blamed the nation's deep political divisions for making news organizations wary of fighting the orders to testify. ...
Fuck you, too, Judith Fucking Miller.
I still want to know if Victor-Victoria uses two separate browsers to post: one with the analannie ID, one with Limpdicky.
Atrios likes to fake us out a lot. [...]
I think he's posting an entire Sunday's worth of threads, in hopes that we would stay at Thers' last post and save the new threads for tomorrow. You know, pace ourselves.
My dear departed Maternal Unit used to occasionally bake batches of holiday cookies on the same principle, and of course I would search out and shamelessly loot the Toll House cookies.
I only wish the MU had had the chance to have a word with Master Atrios.
this *may* be the corner turned but I won't hold my breath
Nancy Willing
What - you don't think it's all over for CooCoo and his Repugs?
O yeah it is.
It damn sure is.
No, he doesn't.
Eric Bloodaxe | 03.31.07 - 5:37 pm | #
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Yes he does.
"Had the press hung together," Miller said
Are you offering a rope, Judy?
I think it is much of the above. What disturbs me is that polls still show Repub candidates beating Dem ones in a general election, and while of course it early and such things can be misleading, I still can't discount the possibility.
The reason for this is, no matter how much people cannot stand Bush, by and large they cannot stand Democrats even more. I don't think the Democrats current actions in Congress are helping your cause much either.
The appropriate way to greet Newt Gingrich on the street is with a knuckle sandwich.
Atrios is a big fat liar. That's all there is to it.
Shoelimpy | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:35 pm | #
At least he's never run out an a woman and stolen her ATM card.
He looks more like what we have to bail out of the allskip after a hard Laverdag night.
Yes he does.
annieangel
I won't take advice on success from someone who looks like one of my bankruptcy clients.
I'm funny that way.
blamed the nation's deep political divisions for making news organizations wary of fighting the orders to testify. ...
yeah, judy, because if the country were, say 70% on one side and 30% on the other, ya'll would have been as brave as anything.
When he's finally done getting to the bottom of things, formerly marginalized Dems like Henry Waxman are going to look like superheroes
"Had the press hung together," Miller said
Yeah, the MSM was all over the map during the "Shock and Aw, Shit!" fever.
I won't take advice on success from someone who looks like one of my bankruptcy clients.
I'm funny that way.
Gomez
(^.^)(_ _)(^.^)
that was masterful, sir.
I still want to know if Victor-Victoria uses two separate browsers to post: one with the analannie ID, one with Limpdicky.
I won't take advice on success from someone who looks like one of my bankruptcy clients.
I'm funny that way.
Gomez | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:39 pm | #
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Wow, you have a shitty job.
Where is Judith I-Was-Proved-Fucking-Right Miller these days? Writing for the Sag Harbor Independent or something?
You would prefer the President shit on American flags like you and yours do?
Hey, sexually confused assclown, this is from the United States Flag Code:
The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
Your president defaces the flag every time he autographs it for one of his 28 Percenters.
Now shut the fuck up.
How about all of the above?
Greetings, batistas. Grandmere is tres fatigue.
Still trying to figure out what "moppet" means, moppet?
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich equated bilingual education Saturday with ''the language of living in a ghetto'' and mocked requirements that ballots be printed in multiple languages.
Gingrich: Still a fucker.
Fuck you, Newt.
Grandmere is tres fatigue.
~Passes Sallyh an ice-cold Stoli and a canape~
res, I'm ready for a president who thinks keeping the country in shape is more important than keeping himself in shape.
And GWB is fat.
Keep in mind that the right track / wrong track polling is going to tend to lump in the Bush haters with the Pelosi haters. As such, I doubt if there are many times in history when right track exceeds 50%.
WordNet - Cite This Source moppet
noun
a little girl (usually one you are fond of)
WordNet 2.1, 2005 Princeton University
I'll come in again:
I still want to know if Victor-Victoria uses two separate browsers to post: one with the analannie ID, one with Limpdicky.
You need two computers to pull that off; for some reason Haloscan can figure out that you've got multiple browsers on one box open, and you have to manually switch names if you want to sockpuppet on one box.
With two boxes you can have two separate Names and pull off sockpuppetry in near-real time without the inconvenience of having to retype your Name in Haloscan.
Hecate, thou art exalted goddess.
And the current administration is the most vile in the history of this country. Completely corrupt.
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One hell of a fucking legacy.
Keep in mind the weeping Bush senior as he contemplated his namesake vs lil' bro Jeb and the end of Bush.
It's in people's psychology that they want to go along to get along, to be loyal and have the government be loyal in return. We've been raised to believe that the Social Contract is acting in our interests and the government isn't going to gut Social Security or politicize the Justice Department for cynical reasons.
But then the ones who aren't complete dunderheads start to realize they've been duped. And the waking-up spreads.
Stealing elections, offices, rights, freedoms, property, and livelyhood and imposing worldwide tyranny through wholesale corruption tends to piss people off.
This has been another edition of short answers to basic questions.
=*=
So Bush lied in his presidential radio address. That's nice. And CNN forgot to mention the lie although they did just play it.
Greetings, batistas. Grandmere is tres fatigue. - Sallyh
You'd perfer an Irish Coffee over a Seething Webb right now?
Everyone was quiet. Condi asked a few technical questions and then finally Karl Rove spoke up. "Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around over there," he said.
I think this answers Atrios' question.
You need two computers to pull that off; for some reason Haloscan can figure out that you've got multiple browsers on one box open, and you have to manually switch names if you want to sockpuppet on one box.
Even if you're using (say) IE and Firefox on the same machine?
Anyway, I suspect that Limpdicky is sufficently lame that he retypes it every time. Trolls aren't that efficient.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich equated bilingual education Saturday with ''the language of living in a ghetto'' and mocked requirements that ballots be printed in multiple languages.
Newt has so lost this battle. I bought a bunch of bags of potting soil yesterday, major brand. Every single thing printed on the bag was printed in both English and Spanish. G/Son has tons of battery-operated toys that sing the alphabet, say colors, and count -- everyone does it in both Spanish and English. Newt, as usual, living in the past.
You need two computers to pull that off; for some reason Haloscan can figure out that you've got multiple browsers on one box open, and you have to manually switch names if you want to sockpuppet on one box.
I am certain that more than one poster here uses more than one pc, prolly the boss does too.
bush is not teh sharpest sharpie in teh drawer but this isn't jeopardy well i guess for troops in iraq
Wow, you have a shitty job.
annieangel
I got the life of Reilly if you want to know, fuckwit.
bo--skip the coffee. Nerves jangled sufficiently
People are really not happy with the direction the country is going in. I'd actually like to know why.
Mortgage worries, health care worries, war worries, job worries.
Me thinks Newtie forgets from where he came. He reeks of perennial trash.
Wow, you have a shitty job.
annieangel | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Being a lawyer may be a shitty job, but somehow I figure that that's not really what you meant.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:41 pm | #
You still haven't answered my question. Would you prefer he shit on it like you and yours do? You seem to find that perfectly acceptable.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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I got the life of Reilly if you want to know, fuckwit.
Gomez | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:45 pm | #
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I doubt you have any kind of life.
{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}
Your president defaces the flag every time he autographs it for one of his 28 Percenters.
Now shut the fuck up.
watertiger
Bravo!
I was just going to mention that, but I wandered off.
Digby is right: Newtie should run.
Would you prefer he shit on it like you and yours do?
Assumes facts not in evidence. I happen to know that watertiger has never shit on a flag.
At least he's never run out an a woman and stolen her ATM card.
Oooooooooh - dish! DISH!!!
Hmmm...
Two DIFFERENT browsers might make it work.
I know that I just use Exploder, and Haloscan is not fooled.
Since I'm not one for sockpuppetry, the only reason I'm aware of this is that I had to manually change my Haloscan Name on the high powered box; I usually use my Win98 box to do web stuff; the high powered box is for games that need the power to actually function.
I doubt you have any kind of life.
annieangel
You just pissed off Vicki.
I doubt you have any kind of life.
Graduated to fourth grade have you?
WordNet - Cite This Source moppet
noun
a little girl (usually one you are fond of)
WordNet 2.1, 2005 Princeton University
annieangel
There's more than one meaning, moppet.
Try again.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:41 pm | #
You still haven't answered my question. Would you prefer he shit on it like you and yours do? You seem to find that perfectly acceptable.
Shoelimpy | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:46 pm | #
So you care more that some nobody is defacing the American flag rather than the President?
I think your priorities are screwed up, dude.
Sallyh -- Maddie might like this shot of L.E.... it's one of the best EVAR.
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Digby is right: Newtie should run.
Please, God, Goddess, whatever!
You still haven't answered my question. Would you prefer he shit on it like you and yours do? You seem to find that perfectly acceptable.
Find me the spot where I said I prefer that Bush shit on the flag.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
Mortgage worries, health care worries, war worries, job worries.
masculine_monica_nyc
I think people are worried - period. I think he's had enough exposure now that everyone thinks he's retarded. I think it makes people very nervous, deep down inside, to have a complete and utterly arrogant moron in charge.
And polls show that "arrogance" is the word most used to describe him.
A losing war, no WMDs, and then Katrina was enough to make the public notice the Bush administration's relentless dishonesty.
I got a pedicure this afternoon. I have electric pink toenails. And, damn, those massage chairs have gotten pretty damn good. Now if it will just rain a bit on everything that I planted this morning, life will be complete.
Dog piss is great for treating acne.
You still haven't answered my question.
Why bother?
Fuck off. Now. Thanks in advance.
Your president defaces the flag every time he autographs it for one of his 28 Percenters.
IOKIYAR
Two DIFFERENT browsers might make it work.
Apprentice to Darth
Don't need to even bother with that, trust me.
Jeffraham, now that's a Hollywood head shot!
Maddie's not here right now, but she'll see it after the weekend.
Why are ShoeLimpDick and analannie here?
Did Wal-Mart let the 4-10 PM shift off early?
Digby is right: Newtie should run.
res ipsa loquitur
O god I wish he would. That would just about complete the circle of Repug candidates.
Wheeeeee!
Dog piss is great for treating acne.
Shoelimpy
Keep your personal life off this blog.
tigre,
Are you having allergy issues today?
And polls show that "arrogance" is the word most used to describe him.
Tena
I think "dumb as a post and crazy as a shithouse rat" is more accurate.
But I can't get that into one word.
Hecate, I'm utterly jealous.
Maybe a manicure is what I need.
Did Wal-Mart let the 4-10 PM shift off early?
Gavin probably banned Shoelimpy from Sadly, No.
People are really not happy with the direction the country is going in. I'd actually like to know why.
Mortgage worries, health care worries, war worries, job worries.
I think a lot of people are realizing that the current maladministration's economic policies are highly slanted in favor of those that have, and have big time, to the expense of anyone who does not, and they fear for their children. It's long been expected that your children should be doing better than you did, but now it doesn't look like that, what with policies that deliberatly concentrate wealth with those that have, and, through the war on the estate tax, seek to make that concentration hereditary.
This is profoundly disturbing to many Americans.
So, Brian, when do ship out for basic?
Are you having allergy issues today?
Since yesterday! You?
RMJ, be careful, the shithouse rats already gave us a cease and desist order. They felt being compared to Republicans was defamation.
I am technically clueless, and have no idea how all of these clever and handy Firefox add-ons work-- but I would love it if they'd invent one that allowed you to auto-scroll past selected HaloScan commenters.
Oh, I still have lots of life left in my Trollshunner's scrolling finger, but it would be convenient to be able to automatically leapfrog over them.
Why are ShoeLimpDick and analannie here?
Did Wal-Mart let the 4-10 PM shift off early?
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:49 pm | #
Shoelmpy can't hold down a job. That's why he's a self published freelance writer.
I think "dumb as a post and crazy as a shithouse rat" is more accurate.
But I can't get that into one word.
I believe that our grandchildren will use the word "bush" to capture that concept.
Why are ShoeLimpDick and analannie here?
Did Wal-Mart let the 4-10 PM shift off early?
res ipsa loquitur
I don't know but lately it seems like I can't ever visit here, day or night, when the Shitlimpy/Analannie idiot isn't spraying its musky odor everywhere.
Oops. Sorry.
So, Brian, when do you ship out for basic?
even semi sweet chocolate jeezus hate bush
I think "dumb as a post and crazy as a shithouse rat" is more accurate.
But I can't get that into one word.
Rmj, Curiosly Lenten
How about "wingnut"?
I got a pedicure this afternoon. I have electric pink toenails. And, damn, those massage chairs have gotten pretty damn good. Now if it will just rain a bit on everything that I planted this morning, life will be complete.
Got mine yesterday. I've been getting them done in Maui Mango which is not the name I would have given this color. It's really a deep plummy brown red. I just love it!
Gotta put betclothes in dryer... brb
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the guy on cspan arguing against gay marriage is so gay......
And polls show that "arrogance" is the word most used to describe him.
Not surprising, because he exhibits the type of arrogance I loathe most of all: arrogance based not on merit, on accomplishment, but that he chose his parents well.
Hecate and Tena, if I get a manicure, what do you recommend? Red hair, blue-green eyes, pasty skin.
tigre,
Yeah, I have a sore throat, but I'm not sick.
I think things are blooming.
I blame Connecticut.
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Speaking of Newtie:
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich equated bilingual education Saturday with "the language of living in a ghetto" and mocked requirements that ballots be printed in multiple languages.
"The government should quit mandating that various documents be printed in any one of 700 languages depending on who randomly shows up" to vote, said Gingrich, who is considering seeking the Republican presidential nomination in 2008. He made the comments in a speech to the National Federation of Republican Women.
"The American people believe English should be the official language of the government. ... We should replace bilingual education with immersion in English so people learn the common language of the country and they learn the language of prosperity, not the language of living in a ghetto," Gingrich said to cheers from the crowd of more than 100.
Ooooooooh - "more than 100"?
Anyhoo, more of this please...
res, at least here in SoCal, it's the worst allergy season on record. And it's only freaking March.
Yeah, I have a sore throat, but I'm not sick.
Between that and the sneezing and the watering eyes...
I served under our flag.
Shoelimpy hides behind it.
Bye, Brian.
Red hair, blue-green eyes, pasty skin.
Can you get close to the color of your hair? I admit that I'm also a huge fan of black or deep, deep, deep purple, but this pink just looked so much like spring.
Dog piss is great for treating acne.
Shoelimpy
?
Like, it discourages people from getting close enough to notice it?
In answer to Atrios's question, Americans think they are the bestest brightest most honorable and democratically republic fucking humans on the face of the earth. They think Big Macs and American air craft carriers can bring peace to the entire world. But....
they mostly live in buttfuck wherever, have never been out of the US much less to more interesting places in the US. They have been told the last 6+ years to fear everything except Walmart and American Idol.
The Rove/Cheney has pushed the limits with these ideas and fears. Regression to the mean is setting in. They are finding their mortgages climbing, the gas prices unstable. They hear about friends of friends who have dead or injured soldiers. They are not comfortable with religious nuts being honored by the government.
This should tilt the machine. Except all we need is another attack to have fear escalated so much that when you pull into a service stop on the Mass turnpike you will have to produce an internal passport to get gas or a Big Mac. The question now is how far are Rove and Cheney willing to escalate their fear politics to save their reich.
'Ex-Aide turns on Bush. President Bushs former top aide and pollster Matthew Down comes clean:
In a wide-ranging interview here, Mr. Dowd called for a withdrawal from Iraq and expressed his disappointment in Mr. Bushs leadership.
He criticized the president as failing to call the nation to a shared sense of sacrifice at a time of war, failing to reach across the political divide to build consensus and ignoring the will of the people on Iraq. He said he believed the president had not moved aggressively enough to hold anyone accountable for the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and that Mr. Bush still approached governing with a my way or the highway mentality reinforced by a shrinking circle of trusted aides.
In speaking out, Mr. Dowd became the first member of Mr. Bushs inner circle to break so publicly with him.
He said his decision to step forward had not come easily. But, he said, his disappointment in Mr. Bushs presidency is so great that he feels a sense of duty to go public given his role in helping Mr. Bush gain and keep power."
http://thinkprogress.org/
Pouring rain here seems to have drowned out the allergens today for which I am most grateful. I seem to be more sensitive each year to tree pollens.
Hecate, with a little chemical help, it's a deep copper color (drab ginger isn't doing it for me these days, and there's all that grey). I could go that route.
dave ...
Tell Newt to go fuck himself in your favorite language.
I wonder if Shoelimpy was one of the dumbasses that got stuck under the Texas A&M bonfire a few years back.
I believe that our grandchildren will use the word "bush" to capture that concept.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Well, since "bush" is a perfectly good word, probably "W" will work very nicely.
government should quit mandating that various documents be printed in any one of 700 languages depending on who randomly shows up
As usual, he's lying. They're printed in the languages of the primary groups of immigrants living in any given area.
Has anyone mentioned the relatively "high" costs of gas and the petfood scare?
I think "dumb as a post and crazy as a shithouse rat" is more accurate'
Word. And what's more, about 70% + Americans agree.
At least one editorialist thinks the problem is that the US has lost its moral authoriteh.
But he's South African. That may not count.
still waiting ...
Go you Hoyas.
Hecate and Tena, if I get a manicure, what do you recommend? Red hair, blue-green eyes, pasty skin.
Sallyh
Pink.
Or if you are so inclined, go goth and get deep green or blue - that would rock you with your coloring.
Anyhoo, more of this please... - dave
Got one for you from a couple of threads down. My 88 y/o Mom got a call from a guy running a "survey". First oreder of business was to listen to a tape of Gingrch pumping his plan to revivie GOPAC. She hung up befroe the recorded message was over. Dear mom gets at least 6 winger-grams a day in the mail.
I am not having the sneezing or watery eyes.
Maybe different stuff floating around ... you are allergic to some, me to other.
Henry Waxman are going to look like superheroes
noblejoanie
Heehee. I guess I'm fickle. My new fantasy lover is Waxman. Used to be Fitzgerald.
Wife is fucking lover. Husband walks in. Wife screams rape. Husband shoots lover.
Grand jury returns no indictment against husband but indicts woman.
still waiting ... watertiger
It'll be a while - Lumpy Pete is crosseyed and painless.
What exactly is a Hoya?
still waiting ...
Brian left, dear.
At least one editorialist thinks the problem is that the US has lost its moral authoriteh.
But he's South African. That may not count.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
I think I'm suffering from an excess of irony. I should go drain a pint of blood. If I listen to AM Talk Radio, it conveniently starts dripping from my ears as brain cells explode.
So, Brian, when do you ship out for basic?
I hear the Gator Navy takes anybody...
Speaking of Judy "Fucking" Miller:
Former New York Times reporter Judith Miller, who in 2005 spent 85 days in jail for refusing to identify former White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby as a confidential source, said Friday she believes the media failed a major test when reporters and news organizations acquiesced to subpoenas issued them by federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, reports U.S. News & World Report media correspondent Liz Halloran.
"Had the press hung together," Miller said, and had more journalists protested the "pro-forma" confidentiality waivers issued by the White House, the damage done to the media during Fitzgerald's investigation into who leaked to reporters the identity CIA operative Valerie Plame would have been much less.
But, as it stands, she said, the investigation and Libby's recent trial that featured a parade of prominent journalists--including Miller--on the witness stand is cause for "enormous concern." Miller, speaking at the National Press Club during a media forum, blamed the nation's deep political divisions for making news organizations wary of fighting the orders to testify.
What a fucking clown.
go goth and get deep green
Oh, great idea! That would look amazing.
Hecate and Tena, if I get a manicure, what do you recommend? Red hair, blue-green eyes, pasty skin. - Sallyh
I say match the eyes, not that I was asked.
Heehee. I guess I'm fickle. My new fantasy lover is Waxman.
I love when he opens hearings by noting that criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot.
Oh Ra;pg Nader is concerned about climate change. Maybe he should have thought about that before he fucked The Al Gore.
I think "dumb as a post and crazy as a shithouse rat" is more accurate'
Word. And what's more, about 70% + Americans agree.
Sorry, 72% of Americans are blithering idiots.
Grand jury returns no indictment against husband but indicts woman.
Snow
Yes?
Motherfuckers have raised the price on the dryers... again.
.
But he's South African. That may not count.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
That guy Elaine was dating.
Grand jury returns no indictment against husband but indicts woman.
Welcome to the patriarchy.
Tell Newt to go fuck himself in your favorite language.
Wow, I think I owe you a Coke...
What exactly is a Hoya? | Gomez
It's a greeting: Hoya doin'?
I hear the Gator Navy takes anybody...
Nope. But it is okay to be wrong occasionally.
Pouring rain here seems to have drowned out the allergens today for which I am most grateful. I seem to be more sensitive each year to tree pollens.
noblejoanie
Yeah,
I should have backed the van out from the carport so the yellow stuff got rinsed off.
.
Gas prices are going up. That hits people in the pocketbook every day.
It'll be a while - Lumpy Pete is crosseyed and painless.
Nah, just attention-starved, with gender identity issues.
Oh, and stupid.
The origins of the word "Hoya" defy simple explanation. Over the years, some have claimed it is an Indian word, while those of a legal mind thought it related to the French word oyez, the traditional opening of judicial sessions. Still others held that with Georgetown's location along a river, Hoya might be an offshoot of the nautical "ahoy". None of these claims have held water, so to speak.
The official explanation holds that there was a baseball team at Georgetown called the "Stonewalls". It is suggested that a student, applying Greek and Latin, dubbed the team the "hoia saxa" hoia is the Greek neuter plural for "what" or "what a", while saxa is the Latin neuter plural for "rock". Substituting a "y" for an "i"; "hoya saxa" literally means "what rocks".
To this day, however, no one has proven exactly when and under what circumstances the yell originated.
Yes?
Nothing. Just watching CNN.
It's a greeting: Hoya doin'?
Little Brther
I thought it was an Indian chant:
hoya hoya hoya hoya
I wonder if Shoelimpy was one of the dumbasses that got stuck under the Texas A&M bonfire a few years back.
Gomez
Since 1909 Texas A&M University students have worked together each year to build a massive bonfire.
The stack of several thousand logs collapsed early morning on November 18, 1999, killing twelve students and injuring at least 27 others. Bonfire was cancelled that year. It was to have been ignited on Thanksgiving evening as a prelude to Texas A&M's November 26 morning football game with The University of Texas.
Motherfuckers have raised the price on the dryers... again.
just happened here, too.
bastards.
I've been racking my brain to find a suitable home for the chocolate Jesus, and just remembered there's a square in Cambridge, UK, called Christ's Pieces.
I wonder if Shoelimpy was one of the dumbasses that got stuck under the Texas A&M bonfire a few years back.
Gomez
The PimpGimp is immortalized in an Aggie joke -
How come TX AM has Astroturf on the sidelines?
To keep the cheerleaders from grazing.
Fitzgerald has hauled Miller to testify three different times. It's like these two has some kind of weird relationship.
Grand jury returns no indictment against husband but indicts woman.
Welcome to the patriarchy.
Hecate,
No - I disagree.
She used the husband in effect as a deadly weapon. He didn't have the requisite intent.
Iraq Veteran Calls for Accountability, Change of Course in Democratic Radio Address
Saturday March 31, 11:06 am ET
WASHINGTON, March 31 /PRNewswire-USNewsire/ -- Lt. Col. Andrew Horne (ret., U.S. Marine Corps) delivers the Democratic Radio Address this week, calling for a new direction in Iraq and seeking accountability from the administration. A senior advisor to VoteVets.org, Horne urges the president to work with Congress on recently passed legislation that provides support and resources for the troops where the President's failed policies have not. The President's veto threat would delay funding for the troops and keep them policing an Iraqi civil war.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0703...sa001.html?
.v=1
Shrill DFH.
-
Americans think they are the bestest brightest most honorable and democratically republic fucking humans on the face of the earth. They think Big Macs and American air craft carriers can bring peace to the entire world. But....
they mostly live in buttfuck wherever, have never been out of the US much less to more interesting places in the US. They have been told the last 6+ years to fear everything except Walmart and American Idol.
That's quite a generalization about a group of 300 million people. And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
Gas prices are going up. That hits people in the pocketbook every day.
truth |
Drove by my cheapest station last night, but didn't feel like fighting rush hour traffic for the left turn. Went back this morning, up ten cent/per gallon. That works out to two dollars a week for me, but it still pissed me off.
From the story Diane C mentioned:
Opinion polls show many people around the world are more fearful of Bush launching strikes against Irans nuclear facilities than of the consequences of Ahmadinejad acquiring weapons of mass destruction.
Why am I not surprised?
As much of a nutcase asshole as Ahmadinejad seems to be, he's a piker compared to CooCoo Bananas.
SoCal gas prices up .15/gal since Monday. Anyone looking at similar increases?
I hear the Gator Navy takes anybody...
Nope. But it is okay to be wrong occasionally.
Methinks he doth protest too much. Should make a GREAT Senator.
The British govt are reporting to day that the 'heat' has cooled over the 15 sailors that are being held in Iran.
Experts say this may be the start of a negotiated end to the crises.
So what happened next? well.....
Chimpy Mcflightsuit waging in tonight to demand the freeing of the sailors.
Me thinks Chimpy does not want a diplomatic ending to this problem.
They thought they had a war president, instead they found they have a blamket fluffer.
Nah, just attention-starved, with gender identity issues. Oh, and stupid. watertiger
Usually you don't bother kicking his/her ass. But your "still waiting" line reminded me that
Facts are simple and facts are straight - Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view - Facts don't do what I want them to
I would not mourn should an Ipod'd Judith Miller not see an on-coming bus....
All the good Clinton did for the image of the US has been lost by CooCoo Bananas and the NeoCons with their fucking "biggest bully on the block" attitude.
Colin Powell should roast in Hell for that idea, which was worded in precisely that way by him. He should have known better.
Sorting out some stuff, I just found the very thing to ward off evil spirits....
"DOS Job Control for COBOL Programmers"
.... well, who wouldn't run screaming?
Methinks he doth protest too much. Should make a GREAT Senator.
Speaking of which, send me money, wanker!
pigboy | 03.31.07 - 5:54 pm | #
"Thanks for Everything, Matthew"
Shoelmpy can't hold down a job.
Say, Alan
that's tough, cuz if he learns to swallow he'll make more money...
From the story Diane C mentioned:
Opinion polls show many people around the world are more fearful of Bush launching strikes against Irans nuclear facilities than of the consequences of Ahmadinejad acquiring weapons of mass destruction.
Nonono, Assmussen assures me that a lot of people are totally cool with bombing Iran.
Mr. Burns, answering phone: "ahoy ahoy!"
What exactly is a Hoya? | Gomez
A Japanese Co That bought and sold the Co I worked for.
.
How old is Greg Oden, really?
...and don't give me that "nineteen" shit.
JR, what have I told you about swearing in public?
DOS and COBOL in the same sentence. I should ground you for a week.
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
Oklahoma.
Shoelmpy can't hold down a job.
Say, Alan
that's tough, cuz if he learns to swallow he'll make more money...
focus
OK. That's funny.
Speaking of which, send me money, wanker!
Why? I don't see any new copies of V in my mailbox. What have you done for me lately?
Fucking typical politician.
(PS--do you have an official link for donations before the quarter ends?)
Facts are simple and facts are straight - Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view - Facts don't do what I want them to
followed by:
RUN AWAY!!!!
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
California's Central Valley.
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
masculine_monica_nyc
Gotta be Kentucky.
DOS and COBOL in the same sentence. I should ground you for a week.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Dear, if you add Fortran to the list, I'll kick his ass for you before you ground him.
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
Dunno. I live in East Bumfuck, though.
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
Kennypunkport?
Billy, deal.
DOS and COBOL in the same sentence. I should ground you for a week.
Sallyh
Don't make me haul out the APL.
Why? I don't see any new copies of V in my mailbox
I already sent you a copy. The finest copy available.
Actually, no online donations yet. And I failed to get a PO Box as planned today.
But I got my EIN!
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
masculine_monica_nyc
"wherever" Lindsey Graham and David Dreier bump into each other?
She used the husband in effect as a deadly weapon. He didn't have the requisite intent.
Tena, on refllection, you may be right. I don't know enough of the details.
JR, that's it. Billy's going to beat your ass.
When I deployed to Iraq, I believed what the President and his advisors said about the necessity of the war. I believed that the decision-makers in Washington would make sure we had everything we needed to get the job done, and we wouldn't be there any longer than we absolutely had to. What I saw there changed my mind.
I saw troops riding in Humvees without the proper armor and units dangerously undermanned for the mission they were asked to accomplish. Most importantly, I saw that while we won every battle, there was little good we could do militarily unless the Iraqis took responsibility for resolving their political differences. Yet no one in Washington offered benchmarks for success that would motivate the Iraqis to resolve their differences and lead us home.
That's cuz "benchmark" is one of the banned words.
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
I thought it was about 150 miles further in along a dirt road from Podunk.
That works out to two dollars a week for me, but it still pissed me off. - Jim
Look at it as another $104 in a year and you could get really pissed.
Sallyh,
The Indies up here are getting squeezed. They were running 12 cents under the majors last week, now it's more like 5 cents and the majors were up 8 cents, as of last night.
This should tilt the machine. Except all we need is another attack to have fear escalated so much that when you pull into a service stop on the Mass turnpike you will have to produce an internal passport to get gas or a Big Mac. The question now is how far are Rove and Cheney willing to escalate their fear politics to save their reich.
**
oh shit,
we need all the e-mails to get these people indicted as in yesterday
Culture of Trth: Gotta be Kentucky.
Hey, now!
.
Tena, on refllection, you may be right. I don't know enough of the details.
Hecate,
I hear ya.
Dear, if you add Fortran to the list, I'll kick his ass for you before you ground him.
billy b
Bring. It. On.
*gets out Win98 Resource Kit manual*
Actually, no online donations yet. And I failed to get a PO Box as planned today.
But I got my EIN!
Then you don't get a goddamned dime until you set up online donations, motherfucker. And just so you know: I'm never going to vote for your ass.
bo, based on the current rate of increase, we'll be topping $4/gal by the 17th of April.
And exactly where is "buttfuck wherever"?
So where near Wannafukitt?
.
Gotta be Kentucky.
Culture of Trth
Nah, we have a great Atriot from Kentucky. Can't remember her name, but she if wonderful.
Oh, look, my last Rifts character....
ql, that's Bigvic. And Jeffraham's from Kentucky.
SoCal gas prices up .15/gal since Monday. Anyone looking at similar increases?
Yes, here in Northern VA. Remember how low they were before the election and how we were crazy to consider that an in-kind campaign contribution from the oil companies? Good times.
JR, my dear, is it not sufficient that I have one child I'm ready to murder in her sleep?
GO GTOWN!
You know, the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR ever since the USSR fell.
Speaking of fear politics, I think an investigation of the politically motivated terror alerts that occurred prior to the 2004 election is in order.
Sallyh: ql, that's Bigvic. And Jeffraham's from Kentucky.
Yeah, but I grew up in the 6th-largest city, there (pop. 36,000!).
It didn't feel like Bumfuck, though. I've been to Bumfuck.
.
Hey, kids, looking to make a little extra money? Have you considered flipping a website fixer-upper?
pigboy | 03.31.07 - 5:54 pm | #
"Thanks for Everything, Matthew"
masculine_monica_nyc | 03.31.07 - 6:04 pm | #
You would think that the kind of bile Dowd used to get shrub into office might have been a clue as to what kind of candidate bush was and what bushs' "spirit of cooperation to Washington" actually was going to be.
is it not sufficient that I have one child I'm ready to murder in her sleep?
Please tell me that she didn't take him back.
You surely know better than I, Tena, but in that sketchy hypothetical, wouldn't hubby be potentially criminally liable for some lesser charge?
I had the impression that, unless the circumstances were purely cut-and-dried "self-defense", that factors like "was it absolutely necessary to shoot", etc., mattered.
Not that I expect that the average jury would convict a man for blowing away a person who he believed was violating his woman... in Latin countries, where anachronistic concepts of "honor" still prevail, he probably gets a medal for marksmanship.
I tried to Buttfuck wherever, but I find its more polite to do it in private.
You know, the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR ever since the USSR fell.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Noticed that too, huh.
Yep.
You know, the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR ever since the USSR fell.
*cough*condilikestofeelimportant*cough*
I think an investigation of the politically motivated terror alerts that occurred prior to the 2004 election is in order.
Notice how we never have those anymore?
JR, my dear, is it not sufficient that I have one child I'm ready to murder in her sleep? - Sallyh
DAre we ask why? Hopefully this is afterburn talking, and not a fresh twist.
I thought Bumfuck was in Egypt.
Hecate, no, nothing like that.
But she may not survive in my house long if she doesn't get with the program.
I think an investigation of the politically motivated terror alerts that occurred prior to the 2004 election is in order.
Word straight up.
Hey, now!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Sorry, but you know, if you didn't have towns like "French Lick", you wouldn't invite this sort of thing.
SoCal gas prices up .15/gal since Monday. Anyone looking at similar increases?
Big time here in Chicagoland around $2.99 a gallon at the BP by my house.
I think an investigation of the politically motivated terror alerts that occurred prior to the 2004 election is in order.
Notice how we never have those anymore?
dave | 03.31.07 - 6:15 pm | #
the enormity of this administrations abuses of power should stun and outrage every single American
Bring. It. On.
I'll beat ya like you done stole somethin'.
I'll whip the shit out of you and then whip you for shittin'.
Oh yeah.
Fenian--we're at ~3.30/gal at the moment.
JR, my dear, is it not sufficient that I have one child I'm ready to murder in her sleep?
Sallyh
So, I take it you think I shold recycle my Boolean Algebra and Systems Architecture coursebooks?
*whistles innocently*
(What's going down now, or is it just general "issues"?)
SoCal gas prices up .15/gal since Monday. Anyone looking at similar increases?
As of yesterday, anyway, they were fairly steady from a week ago here in the North Bay Area. However, gas here is already the priciest in the country, so everyone else is just catching up to us!
Sorry, but you know, if you didn't have towns like "French Lick", you wouldn't invite this sort of thing.
Culture of Trth
Can't say French Lick without saying, "Larry Bird the hick from French Lick."
Actually I love Kentucky, I'm thinking of visiting soon.
But y'all got some funny names.
Sorry, but you know, if you didn't have towns like "French Lick", you wouldn't invite this sort of thing.
Oddly enough, I am currently listening to longtime guilty pleasure from Debbie Harry "French Kissin' in the USA."
I think it's the whole Matthew Dowd thing at play. People know that Bush is not the president of everybody and it demoralizes the country that commander cuckoo bananas just won't listen to anybody but neo-cons and dominionists. Most americans aren't in that category so they know they are being ignored.
I had the impression that, unless the circumstances were purely cut-and-dried "self-defense", that factors like "was it absolutely necessary to shoot", etc., mattered.
It depends completely on the statutes in the jurisdiction.
In many states, defense of a 3d party is a defense. It just depends. On these facts, I see no DA indicting him for anything.
She, on the other hand, is responsible for her action in crying "Rape".
"*gets out Win98 Resource Kit manual*
JR, kerosene and a match"
Windows 95 Common Controls and Messages API Bible.
Fenian--we're at ~3.30/gal at the moment.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
And to further complicate matters, the LA MTA is apparently looking to raise fares substantially this summer.
the enormity of this administrations abuses of power should stun and outrage every single American.
Hey, good luck with that!
If I were better at this internets tubes manipulation, I would steal the pic of Giuliani and Kerik that HuffPo has up...
Monica who....?
I thought Bumfuck was in Egypt.
When I was in Signal Advanced Course, a guy from MILPERCEN, the fleshpeddling bureau, came down to give us a talk about career management. He said that we needed to keep our dream sheets current if we didn't want to wind up in "Bumfuck Egypt". What he didn't know is that some exchange officers from Egypt were in the class and one of them, a Lieutenant Colonel, asked him where this "Bumfuck Egypt" was, because he was from Egypt and never heard of it.
Oden has two fouls within two min. HAHA!
Culture of Trth: Sorry, but you know, if you didn't have towns like "French Lick", you wouldn't invite this sort of thing.
Hey... those places were named by people who wore coonskin caps, and shit outdoors. Cut 'em some slack!
.
ql, that's Bigvic. And Jeffraham's from Kentucky.
Sallyh
That's her. Gah, I hate getting old.
Glad you're getting weekend off. You deserve it.
Alright, fresh spaghetti sauce and strawberries soaked in whiskey and brown sugar with whipped cream. And a nice red wine.
Ciao a tutti. A domani.
Re Mlle: general issues.
1. She doesn't seem to have any empathy for anyone. Granted, she takes wonderful care of her baby, but everyone else gets her snippiness.
2. Her housekeeping is an abomination.
3. Her time management skills suck.
4. She seems brain dead about half the time.
Oh yeah.
billy b
C'mon, sweetie, let's see how you do against this Slackware 3.0 manual first.
SoCal gas prices up .15/gal since Monday. Anyone looking at similar increases?
Yuppers. I tried to give up gasoline for Lent, but didn't get very far with it.
Had some fun on my commute today though. My oldest was in the car with me and we were passed by a maniac in a Land Rover with GOP bumper stickers all over it. I directed my daughter to make a sign on her notebook, and we pulled up with him and showed it to him.
"Hello 38 percenter. thanks in advance for 2008."
When he began yelling his "Fuck you cunts" through his window, daughter turned it around so that it said:
"How very uncivil the right wing is."
He tailgated us for six miles, but it was worth it to see him chomp through his seatbelt in rage.
In this country, I think the economy sucks - definitely seeing a growing disparity between the have and have-nots. I hope and think that the divisiveness because of Bush/Iraq is on the wane as more people become disillusioned with him and his policies. But that has been very depressing as many Americans were forced to pick sides. It was like the civil war without real bullets.
I'm also sad because we've lost a lot of respect and admiration as a world leader. Going to take a long time to get it back as people have long memories.
Culture of Trth: But y'all got some funny names.
Monkey's Eyebrow is my personal fave.
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On the other hand I just found another set of books I forgot I had picked up. Replacements I haven't read in ages.
When Worlds Collide
Steppenwolf
The Glass Bead Game
and
Scence Fiction by Gaslight.
That takes care of the dismal Television schedule this eve.
You know, the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR ever since the USSR fell.
It's amazing how well they've succeeded. Government propaganda reported as "news". Stalinist purges. A Lysenkoist "science" policy. People hauled away to gulags without any charges. The similarities are endless.
"Progressive lawmakers, as I say in my op-ed, must hold the line as firmly as possible, especially considering CBS News poll out this week showing a strong majority of Americans support the Houses binding timetable for withdrawal. Washington pundits and reporters will probably continue billing people like Nelson and Pryor as centrists but - as usual - the definition of centrism in Washington, D.C. means being wholly and completely out of step with the center of American public opinion.
The real centrists are people like Ellison, Nadler, Doggett and the other antiwar Democrats standing firm - and at least judging by their public statements, its clear that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid understand this basic truth. Their public statements also suggest that they understand that they have a mandate to stand firm against President Bush, if he vetoes the entire bill when it reaches his desk. It will be up to us, the progressive movement, to help sustain and solidify public pressure and support for these leaders to follow through on ending the war."
http://www.davidsirota.com/
4. She seems brain dead about half the time.
Sallyh
O dear. You don't think she's depressed, do you?
Fenian--we're at ~3.30/gal at the moment.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sorry to hear that. That really is teh suck.
The Bush Boom. It's fantastic!
You know, the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR ever since the USSR fell.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Noticed that too, huh.
Yep.
Tena
Since? I thought that's what the Cold War was all about.
"The one who fights dragons too long ends up becoming a dragon himself."--Nietzsche (more or less)
Most americans aren't in that category so they know they are being ignored. - trifecta
WE would be harder to ignore if droves of us got together in front of the White House with a generous supply of feathers and hot tar.
the enormity of this administrations abuses of power should stun and outrage every single American
Reminds me of something a supporter once said to Adlai Stevenson: "Senator, every thinking American is behind you".
Stevenson replied "I'll need more than that if I want to be elected President."
Oh, and racism and bigotry has also been given the okay to rear its ugly head.
People feel the country they grew up in, that stood for social justice and a fair shake for all, that was respected as a beacon of freedom for oppressed people everywhere, is changing and not for the better. Immoral and greedy people have hijacked our government, and people sense it. The preponderance of the evidence is starting to alarm them.
4. She seems brain dead about half the time.
Sallyh
O dear. You don't think she's depressed, do you?
Tena
More likely angst, existential despair, or fighting vainly the old ennui.
Soprano won't let me buy her any gasoline, so I haven't bought any since late January. 
.
JR, my dear, is it not sufficient that I have one child I'm ready to murder in her sleep?
You could ship her out here...
That's ok, I hate to move the hinterlands a few years ago.
North of 14th street.
Tena, I know she's depressed. But when people are trying to help, don't be an asshole towards them. And for God's sakes, think about what you have to do, and do it, or ask someone to help you do it.
Windows 95 Common Controls and Messages API Bible.
EkCenTriK
At last, a worthy opponent!
"Advanced RPGII"
4. She seems brain dead about half the time. - Sallyh
Meds in balance?
"the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR "
I was saying that a long time ago. Nice to see the meme popping up.
Got to give them credit though, the GOP managed to duplicate the corrupt and clownish idiots that the USSR had as well.
Re Mlle: general issues. - Sallyh
You may have checked them out before, but it may be worth another look at al-anon.
You know, the GOP has been trying to make us more like the USSR ever since the USSR fell.
I've been to the USSR. Twice. Spent several months there, in fact. I won't say I felt freer there than I did here, but I will say that I felt no less free, even in Red Fucking Square.
""Advanced RPGII"
JR, kerosene and a match"
Just to read or did you try to beat the cycle?
RMJ, it's stupid stuff. Like don't leave your tampon wrappers on the floor. Don't spill your drinks (this is a lifelong habit of hers). Don't take my last pack of cigarettes without telling me. If you're going to borrow my moisturizer, at least screw the cap back on.
I will find out in 22 minutes whether or not I have a hot date for the evening. The bedclothes are being laundered, anyway. Why not? I like 'em clean, too.
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No democracy, no humanity, no peace, no hope. What's not to love?
"The one who fights dragons too long ends up becoming a dragon himself."--Nietzsche (more or less)
Rmj,
Somebody had to fill that vacuum.
But when people are trying to help, don't be an asshole towards them.
Depression often results in passive-aggressive behavior.
Did you know that Democrats never supported the Afghanistan war? I know, it's news to me too.
Idiot of the Day: Cold Fury (Mike)
http://argville.com/2007/03/idio...-fury-
mike.html
Sallyh, even as a childless (s'far as I know, har har) man, I feel for you. I really do.
But I have to smile at your candid evaluation of your offspring.
Especially when I think of all the parents of absolute monsters who view the critters through the glasses of "My Child, Right or Wrong"-- in the sense of ignoring, denying, or excusing obvious shortcomings.
It speaks well of your character-- even though it may have skipped a generation-- if that cheers you up at all.
"Advanced RPGII"
JR, kerosene and a match"
And I have a few SYS36 manuals at the office I keep for old times sake.
Re Mlle: general issues.
1. She doesn't seem to have any empathy for anyone. Granted, she takes wonderful care of her baby, but everyone else gets her snippiness.
2. Her housekeeping is an abomination.
3. Her time management skills suck.
4. She seems brain dead about half the time.
Sallyh
She's drying out, and depressed. All of the above could be related to that.
I could sent you some cookies...
Fox News Big Story:
ROSIE O'DONNELL.
How dare she say whatever she wants to.
JeffCO, tried them. I got very scared, listening to people who'd been there 15-20 years, and were going nowhere.
Furthermore, I have to take psychiatric meds, and it was made clear to me that said practice was frowned upon, even when deemed medically essential.
Snow: Depression often results in passive-aggressive behavior.
That's the subtitle to my biography!
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Tena, I know she's depressed. But when people are trying to help, don't be an asshole towards them. And for God's sakes, think about what you have to do, and do it, or ask someone to help you do it.
Sallyh
O honey, no matter the reason, I know it's a bitch for you. I would have gone bonkers myself before this.
{{{{HUGS}}}}
I'm also sad because we've lost a lot of respect and admiration as a world leader. Going to take a long time to get it back as people have long memories.
pie
As they should, kid.
Simpleton sons-of-bitches.
The price of Girl Scout cookies and gasoline are both far too high.
Also, inexplicably, mustard.
Little Brother, it's not that she lacks character. She really is trying. But she seems to have forgotten that Mom has certain standards that must be met in her house.
RMJ, it's stupid stuff. Like don't leave your tampon wrappers on the floor. Don't spill your drinks (this is a lifelong habit of hers). Don't take my last pack of cigarettes without telling me. If you're going to borrow my moisturizer, at least screw the cap back on.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
The joys, IOW, of being in family.
I have spent most of my life in what I'm convinced some Dr. would diagnose as "depression," so while I seem to make light of it, I take it quite seriously.
the enormity of this administrations abuses of power should stun and outrage every single American.
Hey, good luck with that!
dave | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 6:18 pm | #
I am not on any crusade. It used to bother me that people were not more informed. It doesn't anymore. But the fact is if people were aware they would be tar and feathering everyone of these war mongering nuts.
Just to read or did you try to beat the cycle?
EkCenTriK
Just the parts required for the course.
I haven't dug into my *really* old stuff...
Re Mlle: general issues. - Sallyh
A change of scenery might do her some good, but I suppose that's not really possible. I'm sure it's a veru stressful time for her, but she has to realize that people, including and especially her parents, are there for her.
But you can't do it for her.
That's the subtitle to my biography!
You pud!
[crosses out title of manuscript]
Don't spill your drinks (this is a lifelong habit of hers).
My daughters had sippy cups until they were fourteen.
I was never very enthusiastic about the Afghanistan war because it's the place where empires go to get their assess kicked.
The terrain fucking sucks, the natives are obtuse and obstinate to beat the band, and your army goes in there and gets chewed up, corrupted, and you've got to cut about a zillion moral corners to make headway.
But when people are trying to help, don't be an asshole towards them.
Depression often results in passive-aggressive behavior.
Snow, Propter Hoc
True dat.
I mean: Shut up, fool!
There are days I miss things like RPG and COBOL.
But then I guess I am a bit weird.
Idiot of the Day: Cold Fury (Mike)
Back off! Cold Fury is the 2nd best blog on the intertubes!
Okay, I have other housekeeping tasks... I'll be back if I don't have a date.
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My daughters had sippy cups until they were fourteen.
I just bought one for myself.
Now my clothes won't smell like beer.
French Lick
That fucker Bob Heaton took like eleven steps before throwing up a circus-like left-handed heave to beat my Sydney Moncrief-led Razorbacks 83-81 in 1979.
Shoulda been Moncrief and Magic in the finals.
Why does that shit still burn?
Furthermore, I have to take psychiatric meds, and it was made clear to me that said practice was frowned upon, even when deemed medically essential. Sallyh
Don't let a bad experience throw you off - there must be buttloads of groups where you are, and that attitude towards meds should not be typical. Maybe there were just a lot of thetans hanging around that group. In any case, you've been describing very typical behavior, and if you can't get her to try a rehab program, it may help to get more support for yourself from people who have been there. But I agree if a group has become just a bunch of wheel spinning it's worse than useless.
But then I guess I am a bit weird.
EkCenTriK
there are days when I miss FORTRAN.
COBOL, not so much.
EkCenTrik--I, for one, don't miss writing macros.
Oh well, dinner.
And thus I race away from my shame of lamenting the passing of green tubes and green bar.
Sallyh,
Oh. Have you tried muttering, through clenched teeth, at random moments in her presence, "alpha females of some species, when subjected to prolonged stress, will eat their young"?
I will find out in 22 minutes whether or not I have a hot date for the evening. The bedclothes are being laundered, anyway. Why not? I like 'em clean, too.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 6:23 pm | #
Man, this reminds me of the time I went into the local fishing store for some bait, hooks and a net. The store owner looked at the net and said I might be being a little too optimistic.
Also, inexplicably, mustard.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
We go thru mustard in spurts, but have several bottles in the pantry for damn near free due to Melissa's Coupon Mania.
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bo, I like the way you think.
2. Her housekeeping is an abomination.
*
I figured on this one.
The others are from the full plate as she is in law school and has to morn this dead love affair, dead with a new baby, dead with last hopes so recently interrupted.
Tis a horrid sad story and it is a pity that you don't have tons of cash to hire some extra help around the house.
She will have to step up, as you say, and get with the program.
Got to give them credit though, the GOP managed to duplicate the corrupt and clownish idiots that the USSR had as well.
A structure that is rotting from its own corruption eventually collapses in on itself. That's what happened to the USSR.
It's in the process of happening to the GOP. What we have to guard against is that they don't take the entire country down with them. Fortunately, the Democratic victory in 2006 is helping to forstall that.
JeffCO, she is going to meetings daily. I'll give her that. She's determined to work her program.
I'm not trying to make it sound as if I don't love her (God knows I'd throw myself in front of a bus to save her), and that she's a lost cause. But we have a small house, I'm very busy, I'm doing what I can, and I like things done a certain way. I've been a lot more snappish than usual the last few days.
Well I sort of feel we lost the middle line languages. I have never been a full time coder except back in the old days. My stuff now is on the fly or always subject to other priorities. Makes it a bit tough to get comfortable using several different tools to do one thing.
Heck even my old stand by FoxPro is being deadended by MS finally.
We go thru mustard in spurts [...]
Maybe you should go back to using the old-fashioned glass jars instead of the squeeze bottles.
Bo--now that's a wonderful idea! I will be telling her that!
We go thru mustard in spurts, but have several bottles in the pantry for damn near free due to Melissa's Coupon Mania.
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agave
Yes, but have the mustard fields all been blighted? Has the cost of vinaigre increased beyond all measure? In short, what gives that ordinary yellow mustard* would increase by a third in the course of two weeks?
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* - Secondmost prime indicator of increased inflation. First - the price of toilet paper.
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As they should, kid.
I had to work all day and the store was realy busy, so I just saw the op-ed bt Dowd. You can't convince me that the moron didn't know how bad it was in 2004, but he kept his mouth shut. Now that the Iraq War is a disaster and dems control Congress, everyone has to admit how bad that bastard is.
The repubs have totally jumped the shark, and he's coming after their asses and getting ready for a feast.
pigboy: Man, this reminds me of the time I went into the local fishing store for some bait, hooks and a net. The store owner looked at the net and said I might be being a little too optimistic.
Well, it's not a new pond, by any means. Oh, I am bad...
Problem being, she has a habit of not showing up at all.
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I've been to the USSR. Twice. Spent several months there, in fact.
I have a question.
Did you hear the balalaikas ringing out?
Maybe you should go back to using the old-fashioned glass jars instead of the squeeze bottles.
The squeeze bottles are teh suck when you're near the end of the supply. It's next to impossible to get the last of it out.
The squeeze bottles are teh suck when you're near the end of the supply. It's next to impossible to get the last of it out.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
1) - Take off the top.
2) - Use a knife.
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That is, the Dems are finally able to provide some oversight and separation of powers is back in force.
Worst administration ever. I wonder how long it will take the republican party to recover.
Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD, should have a blog.
In short, what gives that ordinary yellow mustard* would increase by a third in the course of two weeks?
Hmmm...
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Apprentice to Darth Holden: The squeeze bottles are teh suck when you're near the end of the supply. It's next to impossible to get the last of it out.
Centrifuge.
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Is it Iraq? Economic insecurity? They hate George Bush?
I'm finding that to be difficult to answer. I don't think most people have a clue about any of the above.
We are down the reality-denying morons for support of Preznit Have-a-beer-with. Where and when did the other thirty percent or so drop off? Over what issues?
I can tell you for certain that it isn't the warrantless spying on their phone calls or opening their mail. No, indeedy. 'Merkins ain't got nuffin to hide!
Personally, I've no clue. I'm hoping to read Kevin Philips' summation four or five years from now.
Prop the mustard bottle upside down in the fridge for next time. Be sure it's closed and don't wear anything you care about when you open it next time.
That's what happened to the USSR.
Had a prof emeritus of world history based an entire lecture on how the Armenian earthquake of 1988 brought the downfall of the USSR.
bo, based on the current rate of increase, we'll be topping $4/gal by the 17th of April
Making an invasion of Iran completely redundant.
See, war really was the last resort.
A structure that is rotting from its own corruption eventually collapses in on itself. That's what happened to the USSR.
It's in the process of happening to the GOP. What we have to guard against is that they don't take the entire country down with them. Fortunately, the Democratic victory in 2006 is helping to forstall that.
Richard
(just wanted to see it again.)
GWPDA, thanks for the soup recipe. Sounds wonderful.
My daughters had sippy cups until they were fourteen.
I like to eat in front of the toob.
My wife is threatening to spread out newspapers and put my sloppy ass in a highchair.
Did you hear the balalaikas ringing out?
Dude, I still haven't unpacked my case. I'll leave it til tomorrow to answer your question--didn't get to bed last night. Ooh, gotta go disconnect the phone...
pigboy: Man, this reminds me of the time I went into the local fishing store for some bait, hooks and a net. The store owner looked at the net and said I might be being a little too optimistic.
Well, it's not a new pond, by any means. Oh, I am bad...
Problem being, she has a habit of not showing up at all.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 6:32 pm | #
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Don't get me wrong. I did buy the net. What the hell, can't lose for trying. Good luck and good fishing.
Note to mustard helpers: have used all techniques (well, less centrifuge), but it's still teh suck.
I think Fred Barnes must be King of the Reality Denying Morons as he just now patiently explained to Morton why sometimes you have to use military power (this time in the case of Iran) in order to get things done. I guess he's feeling emboldened since it's worked out so well in Iraq and all.
Statistically, it's a virtual certainty that some of the more recent Bush bail-ees have decided that he, or his policies, are not crude, brutish, violent, selfish or solipsistic
enough.
Which is scary.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
http://www.business-standard.com...0&
autono=279307
The squeeze bottles are teh suck when you're near the end of the supply. It's next to impossible to get the last of it out.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
1) - Take off the top.
2) - Use a knife.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Doh! No serious what can I do!!!
I will be telling her that! - Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
We never tried to discourage my daughter from her belief that her parents were slightly nuts and not necessarily harmless.
Shoulda been Moncrief and Magic in the finals.
Why does that shit still burn?
Because the god damn referees suck.
Bad.
Real motherfucking bad.
I loved the Squid.
Sallyh,
I am lighting some incense for you tonight. I know what you mean about wanting your own house to be your way. It's like your home is your haven, it's the one place on Earth where everything can be the way that you want it to be and now you're having to share it w/ a baby and an adult who's going through a breakup while trying to get into med school. I'd be tearing my hair out.
Did you hear the balalaikas ringing out?
Great song. The Beatles' White Album gets my vote as the greatest rock album ever.
Heck even my old stand by FoxPro is being deadended by MS finally.
EkCenTriK
What, FoxPro is no more? I thought that fucker was undead.
Had a prof emeritus of world history based an entire lecture on how the Armenian earthquake of 1988 brought the downfall of the USSR.
That was the tipping point, eh?
I suspected that Chernobyl played a very large role in speeding up the process. Gorbachev knew that the end was near, and was frantically working to arrange for a soft landing.
JeffCO, she is going to meetings daily. I'll give her that. She's determined to work her program....I've been a lot more snappish than usual the last few days. Sallyh
The thing about the programs is that they can maybe get her to see things a bit differently than she's used to, but lasting change can take a long time. You're entitled to feel frustrated, angry, and scared. Don't forget that when she starts to do better, it's safer for you to be upset with her without being afraid she's too fragile to take it. On top of which, of course, is the cumulative effect of stress. Hence the importance of extra support for yourself.
As JimmyJeff would tell you, sometimes the most loving thing you can do for someone is ride their ass hard and put them away wet.
We never tried to discourage my daughter from her belief that her parents were slightly nuts and not necessarily harmless.
bo |
Perfect.
You have found the magic balance.
Yes, it is teh suck. I hate the plastics. Maybe you should just start stealing the little packets from fast food places.
Mustard?
Keen's.
Bush says picking up people in your territorial waters is inexcusable.
(although it is not certain they were in Iranian territorial waters, there are no lines in the water)
My wife is threatening to spread out newspapers and put my sloppy ass in a highchair.
Your wife and I have a lot in common.
All right. When somebody figures it out about the mustard, let me know. It looks to me like it's going to take an economist and a statistics professor to do so however. Possibly an agricultural economist too.
Sallyh, all the things you describe? The girl's depressed, clinically. Not only with the medical issues you know about, but probably as well with the wonkiness from the birth and the accompanying upset. The lack of tidiness around herself is the clue.
However, that leaves you. For you - more and better drugs, some exercise and good food. And patience.
Back to the ironing. -Why- Arthur can't do this I do no know.
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I think Fred Barnes must be King of the Reality Denying Morons as he just now patiently explained to Morton why sometimes you have to use military power (this time in the case of Iran) in order to get things done. I guess he's feeling emboldened since it's worked out so well in Iraq and all.
What enfuriates me about dipsticks like Freddie the Beetle and Mor-TON is that they're so eager to send in the military to "solve" some problem they think is around, and their pasty white asses will never be in any danger.
Let's take a stroll with John McCain
By Jay Deshmukh in Baghdad
March 30, 2007 10:58pm
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ALMOST 400 people have been killed in Iraq over the past three days, as insurgents and sectarian militias defied a massive US security crackdown billed as a last chance to restore order to Baghdad.
In short, what gives that ordinary yellow mustard* would increase by a third in the course of two weeks?
Dunno, but it has to get transported in trucks via gasoline and lots of crops are getting displaced to grow corn for ethanol. But it may be something different.
-Why- Arthur can't do this I do no know.
Dogs can iron. They just choose not to.
The squeeze bottles are teh suck when you're near the end of the supply.
I'm a ketchup-lover, and don't care for mustard, but funny you should mention that. I've been buying those "upside-down" Heinz squeeze bottles that have been around for a couple of years.
They indeed work fine, dispensing ketchup without fuss or mess-- until there's only a bit left. This borders on Andy-Rooneyism, I know, but even though I'm generally incredibly wasteful, it bugs the hell out of me that there's still an inch or so of ketchup in the bottle. Yes, you can simply screw off the lid, but instead I have developed this insane ritual of playing around with the fucking container, determined to dispense that last bit "properly".
I've found that if you squeeze the bottle so that it "inhales" air, this charges it sufficiently to get a little more out. But even that only works to a certain extent. I keep telling myself to get a grip and stop fucking around with the stupid almost-empty bottle, but it's really a struggle.
It's a good thing I live alone, I spoze...
Okay, now I have to put pedal to metal. Date is on.
♥
Auntie GWPDA, she's always been a miserable slob. It's my fault; I used to just close her bedroom door and pretend it didn't exist.
And still I wait for a response...
So in the interim, a gingered pear pie requests its creation.
One of my co-worker's wives had a propensity for depression ... it broke out in a perfect storm after their daughter was born. Yelling, lethargy, illness, the whole works.
Something similar may be at play with Mlle.
Hi, back for a bit until the ouchie drives me off again, i guess.
Random scanning, saw this:
I was never very enthusiastic about the Afghanistan war because it's the place where empires go to get their assess kicked.
The terrain fucking sucks, the natives are obtuse and obstinate to beat the band, and your army goes in there and gets chewed up, corrupted, and you've got to cut about a zillion moral corners to make headway.
That's also a pretty good description of my native Appalachians.
What's the topic of the moment?
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Worst administration ever. I wonder how long it will take the republican party to recover. - pie
Hopefully, never, but I get the feeling that AEI and the other plutocrat underwritten Winger stink tanks, have written off Chicken Caesar, but are hard at work putting together Neocon 2.0. They are too addicted to the lust for power.
What opened their eyes? I really think it was Katrina. Bush & his bastards could have recovered from their horrifying lack of response to that if they'd done something effective, even late. And then Hurrican Wilma later that fall, even though it turned out to be nowhere near as bad, scared people down to their toes, because they realized that if it *was* as bad as forecast, they were screwed, screwed, screwed.
The war's far away. But we all get natural disasters: tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms, earthquakes, blizzards, whatever. And the whole world saw how Bush & his bastards let a city -- a region -- die and did less than nothing to save it and its people.
Damn Canadians are poisoning our pet food. Invade now!
Don't forget their beer!
YOU MEAN WE HAVE OUTSOURCED MUSTARD??????
Chuy.
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Okay, now I have to put pedal to metal. Date is on.
Break a leg, Jeffraham!
In short, what gives that ordinary yellow mustard* would increase by a third in the course of two weeks?
Well, it doesn't have anything to do with actual mustard, as "ordingary yellow mustard" is mostly cornstarch and food colouring.
We never tried to discourage my daughter from her belief that her parents were slightly nuts and not necessarily harmless.
Our philosophy precisely!
So in the interim, a gingered pear pie requests its creation. watertiger
Had it not, I would have been happy too.
Ok, who's sneaking extra o's into my comments?
JR and JeffCO, she's found a therapist, and her appointments begin late next week. She and her husband are also doing joint counseling.
(although it is not certain they were in Iranian territorial waters, there are no lines in the water)
Snow, Propter Hoc
Nor any on land. As I was recently reminded, the origin of the Iran/Iraq war was that particular border.
That issue is STILL not settled.
Ok, who's sneaking extra o's into my comments?
I blame simels.
Dude, I still haven't unpacked my case. I'll leave it til tomorrow to answer your question--didn't get to bed last night. Ooh, gotta go disconnect the phone...
One other thing - I hope that the paper bag wasn't on your knees all the way.
Have fun, JP, and be good. Be rrreeally gooood. Rrrowr.
Ok, who's sneaking extra o's into my comments?
Changes the meaning entirely!
So in the interim, a gingered pear pie requests its creation. watertiger
O that's cruel. So terribly cruel. Nothing now will taste good because I'll be thinking "but it isn't gingered pear pie."
We never tried to discourage my daughter from her belief that her parents were slightly nuts and not necessarily harmless.
Sallyh
In my childhod that was not a belief, it was easily verifyable by outside sources.
Of course, I was also slighty nuts and not harmless.
Okay, now I have to put pedal to metal. Date is on.
Let us know if you score.
Nor any on land.
But there are landmarks. Even when the Swiss don't use them.
Oh, and Mlle is bipolar, to top it off. I feel her, as I am myself, but I also have told her and hopefully demonstrated how important it is to learn to live with the disease. This is why I really stress time management with her.
Auntie GWPDA, she's always been a miserable slob. It's my fault; I used to just close her bedroom door and pretend it didn't exist.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sugar, all that means is that the condition pre-dates the recognition... No, it's not your fault. Just as a shar-pei is inherently tidy, so are human beings - unless there is something interfering. I presume we don't confuse clutter with untidyness.
Well, it doesn't have anything to do with actual mustard, as "ordingary yellow mustard" is cornstarch and food colouring.
I think that we may have identified the problem. Corn futures out the roof over past few months.
Greetings, bats.
How go things today? I've had a busy day, as many of you know, but it's been quite gratifying.
Wish I'd remembered to take put my memory card back in the camera, though ...
Also, inexplicably, mustard.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
"The kingdom of God is like a mustard seed..."
Which was a fine metaphor, until the French came along and made mustard into something useful.
Damned frogs.
Ok, who's sneaking extra o's into my comments?
My money's on KSM.
O that's cruel. So terribly cruel. Nothing now will taste good because I'll be thinking "but it isn't gingered pear pie."
Did i mention the spiced whole wheat crust?
Nor any on land. As I was recently reminded, the origin of the Iran/Iraq war was that particular border.
That issue is STILL not settled.
IiRC, that particular river's division has been in dispute since 1937. No one can say whether that damn boat was in the clear or not - not Brit, not Iranian, not the Lakotah Sioux Grand Council.
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But there are landmarks. Even when the Swiss don't use them.
Snow, Propter Hoc
Won't really matter if there is no agreement on where, in relation to said landmarks, the LINE is supposed to be.
What opened their eyes? I really think it was Katrina
What REALLY sucks about Katrina is the absolutely unconsionable effort by the "Bush base" (that is, the capitalist mercenary types) to exploit the situation to their own greedy economic advantage; the very obvious "ethnic cleansing" slant to the recovery effort, to dispose of all those dark skinned people who got in the way of the party train for the Duke/Vandy name your southern whitebread school here crowd during Mardis Gras.
I think that we may have identified the problem. Corn futures out the roof over past few months.
Hecate
Well, I don't allow the stuff in my house... I use Keen's.
My So doesn't use mustard much, and has learned to be careful with the Keen's.
We never tried to discourage my daughter from her belief that her parents were slightly nuts and not necessarily harmless.
Sallyh
My daughter is convinced I'm nuts.
She's still working out whether or not I'm harmless. Seriously.
Worst administration ever. I wonder how long it will take the republican party to recover.
pie
Never is soon enough for me.
Hi, everyone!
Sally -- sorry you're going through such a rough patch with the kiddo.
Is there any way you can carve out a little time just for yourself -- to walk somewhere pretty, or soak in a tub, or anything thats just for you?
People feel the country they grew up in, that stood for social justice and a fair shake for all, that was respected as a beacon of freedom for oppressed people everywhere
Sounds nice enough, but I didn't grow up in such a country. Was the U.S. ever that country?
Hopefully, never, but I get the feeling that AEI and the other plutocrat underwritten Winger stink tanks, have written off Chicken Caesar, but are hard at work putting together Neocon 2.0
I think the rest of the Middle East is ready for the neocons.
Oh, and Mlle is bipolar, to top it off.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Don't screw with us bipolar types. We are the ORIGINAL double threat!
I think that we may have identified the problem. Corn futures out the roof over past few months.
Hecate
I heard something about that on NPR this morning.... with ethanol talk and an election coming up. even with a record crop planned and planted, prices are soaring (or something like that.... I was half asleep)
IiRC, that particular river's division has been in dispute since 1937. No one can say whether that damn boat was in the clear or not - not Brit, not Iranian, not the Lakotah Sioux Grand Council.
Yup, that's the rub.
The border has been in dispute incessantly for more than half a century. The peace in the 80's war didn't attempt to address it, they were all to weary of the fighting to really take the issue on.
Besides, they needed a good excuse for the next one.
Your wife and I have a lot in common.
pie
Oh, so you both hate my ass, eh?
[winky]
Virginia--she's spending the night with a friend from program (whom I know and like very, very much), so this is our time. I'm sorry to be publicly decompressing. It's just been a hard, hard week.
O that's cruel. So terribly cruel. Nothing now will taste good because I'll be thinking "but it isn't gingered pear pie."
Tena
I'm your ice-cream man
Stop me when I'm passing by
See now all my flavors are guaranteed to satisfy
I don't believe that dogs can iron. Here's why. We have a Lab. It's supposed to belong to my sister but she just somehow isn't doing anything about reclaiming her, and she's now the inseparable companion of a very, very old Collie Shepherd mix --anyway, Labs are the most obsequiously eager to please creatures outside of the White House Press Corps. If Tippers could iron she'd have done it by now.
sallyh --big hug, dear
R Manhammer--et tu, Hammer of Man?
Thank the godess for lithium.
I'm sorry to be publicly decompressing.
Sallyh,
Don't apologize.
Have a Glayva and a sweetmeal biscuit and relax.
Sounds nice enough, but I didn't grow up in such a country. Was the U.S. ever that country?
That's always been the goal.
For a while there, in the period from the 1930's to the 1970's, we were actually making some progress in getting there.
Then Reagan happened.
Looking back at the post, do you suppose Bush huffs those Sharpies?
If Tippers could iron she'd have done it by now.
catalexis Cmdr. re-ed camp 6
Have you shown her where the iron needs to be plugged? Labs are good all right (cf the Heimlich giving one last week), but if they don't know where the plug is, what can they do?
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Sounds nice enough, but I didn't grow up in such a country. Was the U.S. ever that country?
masculine_monica_nyc
I think that we have never been a particularly socially just nation. However, the slope of the line USED TO BE positive. And it isn't anymore. Hasn't been since, oh, post Johnson, IMHO.
Labs are the most obsequiously eager to please creatures outside of the White House Press Corps.
Amen. you see a bad-tempered black Lab, you think "rabies" or "i need an old priest and a young priest..."
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I believe I have determined a useful antidote to how I currently feel.
Does anyone have any objections to chocolate caramel chip cookies?
I'm sorry to be publicly decompressing. It's just been a hard, hard week.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Don't be sorry! There is such an incredible amount of thoughtful, insightful, varied perspective around here, it seems to be to be a great place for it.
It just sounds like you're inundated with "busyness" and worry, and we can get so immersed in it we forget to take care of ourselves. At least I find I do.
Just as a shar-pei is inherently tidy, so are human beings - unless there is something interfering
Humans are trained to be tidy.
Sinfonian,
You've been out of pocket lately. Too bad I lopped-off my index finger ala Johnny Wheeler and was prepared to have you come take my MAT.
Re-took my DL photo to make it look more like you, too.
You never showed.
Labs are the most obsequiously eager to please creatures outside of the White House Press Corps.
Then what genetic mutation created the Imperious Couch-Dwelling Beast that lifteth his head only when I get to a red zone near the refridgerator?
Does anyone have any objections to chocolate caramel chip cookies?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Surely, you jest.
What kind of nuts?
Thank the godess for lithium.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I take my reality unfiltered by anything other than my own insanity. It's a bit breath-taking at times, but I'm high-functional, so I'm OK. Or so I tell myself.
Sounds nice enough, but I didn't grow up in such a country. Was the U.S. ever that country?
No.
That's always been the goal.
In name only. As Mark Twain about the 19th century. Or the native Americans. The Africans who became unwilling Americans. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Oh, and Mlle is bipolar, to top it off. feel her, as I am myself, but I also have told her and hopefully demonstrated how important it is to learn to live with the disease. This is why I really stress time management with her.
A friend of mine is bipolar and has had some really major struggles with it, particularly when the symptoms first manifested themselves. When they did, this person was probably working 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, all in the process of trying to make tenure.
For a while there, in the period from the 1930's to the 1970's, we were actually making some progress in getting there.
Then Reagan happened.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Fuckin' A. WP-until-WPE.
R Manhammer, without medication, I'm almost nonfunctional, and not in a good way. Alas.
She's still working out whether or not I'm harmless. Seriously. - Rmj
That's where you have the leverage. Use it sparingly, and don't lose it. Protect it. It's all ya got for the next 6 years.
Auntie GWPDA--I have pecans and walnuts. I was thinking of going with pecans. What I'd really like are macadamias, but at the moment, Chez H is devoid of them.
Amen. you see a bad-tempered black Lab, you think "rabies" or "i need an old priest and a young priest..."
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Cynicus
That's why they are rated waaaay above Rottwilers and Pitbulls for inappropriate aggression.
Seriously.
Does anyone have any objections to chocolate caramel chip cookies?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
How so? Do I object to your having some? Do I object to your sharing some? Or, do I object to your hogging every single last one of them until you feel better?
Um, no. Your honor, I've no objections.
Ketchup at the bottom of the bottle.
Grab the bottle by the neck like a hammer and whack the narrow side in the palm of your hand till most of the Ketchup has moved to the side. Then whack the bottle neck down on the counter, till Ketchup is at the opening.
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It's the all pervasive corruption, stupid!
rmj, I'll have to concede your point.
From the Founders on, there was a great deal of talk about it, but when it came down to brass tacks, the rhetoric was all to often set aside.
Have a Glayva and a sweetmeal biscuit and relax.
I was thinking another Bulleit and soda with a puff.
That's always been the goal.
For a while there, in the period from the 1930's to the 1970's, we were actually making some progress in getting there.
The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice?
In name only. As Mark Twain about the 19th century. Or the native Americans. The Africans who became unwilling Americans. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Rmj,
As with all things, this one is a matter of perspective. A lot of immigrants saw this country as a better place than the one they were in. Some still do.
We've had our moments. Not nearly enough of them to make such exhorbitant claims as Americans tend to make about the country viable. A handful, maybe.
Richard, I struggled with it from the age of 15 till the time I was diagnosed at 26. For a couple of years after that, I still struggled with getting the meds right, learning to deal with the whole concept of having a medical condition, etc.
R Manhammer, without medication, I'm almost nonfunctional, and not in a good way. Alas.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Ah. You sing my sister's song. I send you hugs. Myself, I have an intense dislike for drug therapies. Worse than rap, IMHO.
rmj, I'll have to concede your point.
From the Founders on, there was a great deal of talk about it, but when it came down to brass tacks, the rhetoric was all to often set aside.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I likd to think of it as a nice idea nobody ever really wanted to get too near.
Think of the postwar era. From the GI Bill to the Marshall Plan to the Civil Rights era -- there was a general expansion of justice and generosity. What stopped it? When Nixon & his gang got in, I think.
Aggressive Lab stats? Not to mention that, there are so many more Labrador dogs than, say, rottweilers in America that sheer statistics takes care of the problem. (No matter how violent left-handed Samoans might be, the average crime in the US won't be by a Samoan sinister.)
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The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice?
I'd like to think so.
Sometimes it doesn't seem that way, verily.
after 400 comments, which i am not going to read, i will just answer the question - yes, they hate george bush.
watch for the msm to say that the increasing evid of wrong track is proof the dems are in trouble for investigating - instead of saying that its proof the public is learning more and becoming even more pissed off.
Sounds nice enough, but I didn't grow up in such a country. Was the U.S. ever that country? - masculine_monica_nyc
We weren't there in the sizties, but a lot of us were trying. It's just that the shit never ceases.
Yeah, agave that works.
Ketchup at the bottom is like a cat in a tree. It'll come down eventually.
As with all things, this one is a matter of perspective. A lot of immigrants saw this country as a better place than the one they were in. Some still do.
Such as the 19th century German immigrants who came here to avoid the wars of Germany.
And found themselves going to war against the secessionist South.
The more things change....
Auntie GWPDA--I have pecans and walnuts. I was thinking of going with pecans. What I'd really like are macadamias, but at the moment, Chez H is devoid of them.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Try pecans and let me know. I'm all agog with the possibilities of multi-layered tree-cropping in my pastures. Pines above pecans above figs above grass is my current plan. I should be able to get a hundred and fifty pounds of pecans per tree, or so I read.
The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice?
DR KING WAS A WOMANIZING COMMIE!
Oh, and it's been interesting arguing about the TG whose hubby is trying to get out of alimony...
I told my doc that my anxiety was under control with 10mg valium...the 5mg would work in a pinch.
He prescribed me 0.25mg Xanax instead...with one refill.
Stingy bastard.
OK, I showed her where to plug the iron in and just as I was turning around Roodle sapped me upside the head. I was pretty groggy but I think I heard her muttering something about Union Rep, Hoffa, and Benji "The Ice Pick" McSweeny, -- then some whimpering and when my head cleared all the freshly washed clothes I'd brought for Tippers to iron had been mysteriously peed on and the cord for the iron had been chopped up and the pieces arraigned to form the word "biscuit".
Sinfonian,
You've been out of pocket lately. Too bad I lopped-off my index finger ala Johnny Wheeler and was prepared to have you come take my MAT.
Re-took my DL photo to make it look more like you, too.
You never showed.
TinyPorcelainMouse
Um, I didn't get the invitation?
My suit was at the cleaners?
I was reading "My Pet Goat?"
I was a detainee at Gitmo?
Think of the postwar era. From the GI Bill to the Marshall Plan to the Civil Rights era -- there was a general expansion of justice and generosity. What stopped it? When Nixon & his gang got in, I think.
The thing is, aside from Nixon's paranoia about the anti-war movement (which led to all the Watergate crimes), many of his domesitic positions were well to the left of Carter's, or Clinton's.
His health care proposals, for example, make Hillary Clinton's plan look positively reactionary.
Americans are dissatisfied with the way things are going?
Well, that's just until we start throwing our weight around here.
When Nixon & his gang got in, I think.
The prototype for the morally bankrupt, dirty trick playing, imperial presidency.
Labs are also overbred. My poor old boy had the spine of ten year old dog before he was eighteen months old from congenital arthritis (I think was the term used)--I didn't know enough about breeders to check them out. Now he is ten years old
Think of the postwar era. From the GI Bill to the Marshall Plan to the Civil Rights era -- there was a general expansion of justice and generosity. What stopped it? When Nixon & his gang got in, I think.
strawhat
I remember the "Civil Rights" era quite clearly. I would not describe it as a "general expansion of justice and generosity."
Nor would the civil rights marchers who were set on by dogs, cops with billy clubs, and firehoses. Just for being in the street.
And then there were the lynchings in the 20's and 30's, not to mention again in the '50's and '60's.
Terrible thing to live through history, and then remember it.
The question is not "Was America ever the land of Justice and Goodness"?
It's "Does America still try to be? Does America still want to be? Does America still think that's possible?"
#2 i'd say yes. It's the answers to #s 1&3 that might sting........
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Um, I didn't get the invitation?
My suit was at the cleaners?
I was reading "My Pet Goat?"
I was a detainee at Gitmo?
Sinfonian, in the Big Easy
sawrite...I did OK.
I likd to think of it as a nice idea nobody ever really wanted to get too near.
Rmj,
Not true, Robert. The trend has been to expand on the rights in the Bill of Rights, not to narrow their scope. We're in a stunning setback period, but that has been the trend.
I think we'll go there again. Probably starting in '09.
The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice?
masculine_monica_nyc
If I'm reading Jane Jacobs correctly, and reading a bit between the lines, either we as a nation trend towards social equality (i.e., progressivism) or we are doomed to cultural stagnation, decay, and a looming Dark Age.
I hate to defend Nixon, but he really did do alot of good--opening up China, all the environmental laws.
Now you're making me all nostalgic
His health care proposals, for example, make Hillary Clinton's plan look positively reactionary.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
At one point, he planned to give every man, woman, and child in America $1000.00.
The Cato Institute didn't exist back then, or it would have plotzed.
"What, FoxPro is no more? I thought that fucker was undead.
JR, kerosene and a match "
I am not complete on full details, but basically, no new versions. They have another project Sedona they have been working with but again, I am not really familiar with it. Visual FoxPro has been a worthy soldier all these years. As as the DOS version and FPFW versions. Funny, I had a hosted product rep explaining how no matter what Manufacturer he dealt with, there was some guy doing code in FoxPro. It just works, rapid development and the down and dirty and command line action is still without a competitor. (Sorry I am being a bit of an evangelist). We started tying into MySQL and life has been very good.
When mah baby calls for me, I go to Rio...
Congress should bring equal scrutiny to the more powerful Mr. Rove. If it does, especially by forcing him to testify in public, it will find that he has been at the vortex of many of the biggest issues they are now investigating.
NYT clears its throat and weightily intones that water may very well be found to be wet.
Terrible thing to live through history, and then remember it.
Rmj,
Indeed, but things have changed, at least on a social level, in a lot of ways as a result of those times.
It's a work in progress, Robert, and it doesn't exist in a vacuum, either. We're part of a whole world of countries.
Hecate--how droll
Had a prof emeritus of world history based an entire lecture on how the Armenian earthquake of 1988 brought the downfall of the USSR.
That was the tipping point, eh?
I suspected that Chernobyl played a very large role in speeding up the process. Gorbachev knew that the end was near, and was frantically working to arrange for a soft landing.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 03.31.07 - 6:38 pm
I'd go with Cherynobyl, rather than Armenia. By 1988, the USSR was already dead, but hadn't been declared yet. After so many decades of misrule, Armenia was kind of a drop in the bucket.
Aggressive Lab stats?
Something simply must be done about the national epidemic of tail-wagging and face-licking injuries.
Something simply must be done about the national epidemic of tail-wagging and face-licking injuries.
melior
sawrite...I did OK.
TinyPorcelainMouse
I had no doubt.
Congrats. Drink one for me.
The thing is, aside from Nixon's paranoia about the anti-war movement (which led to all the Watergate crimes), many of his domesitic positions were well to the left of Carter's, or Clinton's.
His health care proposals, for example, make Hillary Clinton's plan look positively reactionary.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
True, all true. However, in context, Nixon was a reactionary compared to his Democratic opponents. Besides, the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy didn't really start up until Goldwater had his ass handed to him in '64.
Now that they've been in the saddle for thirty years, you can see a significant difference between what the Democrats had created and what the corporate elite/Rethuglicans wanted (and have now obtained).
"national epidemic of tail-wagging and face-licking injuries."
Strange, I mentioned a Pom today. Came out of that with dog spit all over the place. And the tail wagging, well only Jackie Chan was moving faster.
Labs are also overbred. My poor old boy had the spine of ten year old dog before he was eighteen months old from congenital arthritis (I think was the term used)--I didn't know enough about breeders to check them out. Now he is ten years old
One of the reasons all our dogs& cats are pound rescues. The current dog, Athena, is a 45 lb. muscular red wolf-in-fur-trousers looking thing (we speculate German shepherd - chow), but the one thing the vet remarkes on on our Heinz 57 variety dog's routine checks is that she's the healthiest beast he sees.
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After so many decades of misrule, Armenia was kind of a drop in the bucket.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Prof looked like Twain and always had a bit of mayonaisey lettuce in his beard after lunch.
Still made a good earthquake argument.
I always thought that Afghanistan had something to do with the fall of the USSR.
Indeed, but things have changed, at least on a social level, in a lot of ways as a result of those times.
It's a work in progress, Robert, and it doesn't exist in a vacuum, either. We're part of a whole world of countries.
Tena
Oh, I think the arc of history bends towards justice. I agree with Dr. King in almost all things.
I just don't think we stumbled off the bright and shining path sometime recently, and just need to get back on it. This, too, is American history.
The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice?
Ah, you're quoting Jon Meachem!
If capitalism is such a great system, why can't I pay anybody to exercise for me?
Congrats. Drink one for me.
Sinfonian, in the Big Easy
Woody's 1554 was a bit too dark, so it's all Shiner Bock all the time since around 4p.
it doesn't exist in a vacuum
Is 250 dollars too much to pay for a vacuum cleaner?
About that mustard/corn part of the thread. It took a while, but I finally found the article I read this morning on corn. It was in the Sacramento Bee.
In the past year, demand for corn to feed refineries as well as a robust export outlook have pushed corn prices to their highest levels since the late 1990s. Industry experts say the prices aren't high enough for most farmers to plant corn for ethanol. But they are high enough that planting corn is one way for livestock producers to cut their feed costs.
Corn prices peaked at $4.50 per bushel -- about 56 pounds -- in February but have since fallen to $3.74, including a 5 percent dip on Friday. In the early 1980s, inflation-adjusted corn prices were as high as $10 a bushel, according to the USDA.
One of the reasons all our dogs& cats are pound rescues.
I'm not busting on pedigreed animals, but one of the reasons cats have such great immune systems is because they still have not been overbred by humans the way dogs have. I really hate to see that happen to cats.
Hope it doesn't.
At one point, he planned to give every man, woman, and child in America $1000.00.
He started with Monica Crowley before got sidetracked.
Sounds nice enough, but I didn't grow up in such a country. Was the U.S. ever that country?
As a Canadian, one of the things that shocked me the most when learning about American history for the first time was finding out the degree to which African Americans were denied really basic human rights, even up until the mid-1960's.
The country that has always patted itself on the back as a champion of freedom and democracy practiced a North American version of apartheid for a century.
"I really hate to see that happen to cats."
Tena, I think Cats tend to make sure that doesn't happen. Fluffy gets out a lot more often than Rex.
I just don't think we stumbled off the bright and shining path sometime recently, and just need to get back on it. This, too, is American history.
Rmj,
O like I'm going to disagree with that.
No shit did we stumble. Might better to say we leaped off with wild abandon.
Congress should bring equal scrutiny to the more powerful Mr. Rove. If it does, especially by forcing him to testify in public, it will find that he has been at the vortex of many of the biggest issues they are now investigating.
It was easier to spot the eminence grise when they helpfully wore titles and distinctive outfits, like
Cardinal Richelieu.
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I always thought that Afghanistan had something to do with the fall of the USSR.
That definitely contributed, as did Gorby's necessary, progressive ideas.
Richard we hate to reminded of that so please stop.
like
Cardinal Richelieu.
The last great French rapper.
One of the reasons all our dogs& cats are pound rescues.
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Cynicus
Ours were strays we found. Mixed breed.
Yeah, pure bread Labs have problems but I think a good breed to be in the mix.
Eddy seems Lab/Rotty and is a wonderful sweet healthy Dog.
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I was I think in the third grade when Roots came out, and I remember our teacher telling us that slaves were really not much worse off than factory workers in the north.
Richard we fought the Nazis so ergo we can do no wrong.
My dog and cat are both rescued strays, so count me in the mutt fan club.
I'm one myself, come to think of it.
Bred
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FWIW, it's more basic than anything you've mention. Being a software type for the past 25 years, I've come to believe that any plan based on fallacy is doomed to failure. I've seen it 100% of the time.
2 corrolaries:
- even though the plan is doomed to fail, you can make the lie walk for quite some time.
- with every day that the lie "walks", you deepen the payback.
So, seeing as these guys are incapable of telling the truth about anything(ref: totally legal atty scandal... it would be funny if not so serious) and the extent of "anything" is mindboggling, we have half a googal of chickens coming home to roost. And in my humble opinion, the payback here will break this nation forever.
In essence, they're guilty of hyper-selfishness. They've destroyed our childrens lives and IMO nothing could be worse than that. This has no place in a reasonable society. So, I hate them accordingly.
-Lance Link
After so many decades of misrule, Armenia was kind of a drop in the bucket.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins...
Still made a good earthquake argument.
TinyPorcelainMouse | 03.31.07 - 7:07 pm | #
I always thought that Afghanistan had something to do with the fall of the USSR.
Tena | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:08 pm
Well, the USSR was an experiment doomed to fail, since the economic basis of it wasn't going to work. But I'd go with the Afghan war as a major, major reason, and Chernobyl (Gorby using Chernobyl as a way to get perestroika and glasnost up and running).Amernia, both in terms of the earthquake and unrest (protests, war with Azerbaijan) was important, but I'm not sure 'the' tipping point. Did the prof ever publish this? I'd be interested in reading it.
OT, but bet you didn't know Ernest T. Bass directed McDonald's commercials on the side!
That definitely contributed, as did Gorby's necessary, progressive ideas.
NTodd, Kettlepot
I've always given Gorbachev a great deal of the credit. A great deal.
One of the problems with everyone's view of America is perception. There's all kinds of stuff going on, but unless it's happening to you personally (discrimination, economic fallout, etc), most people rely on the media for their perception.
And if you rely on the MSM for information, you're less than informed.
My dog and cat are both rescued strays, so count me in the mutt fan club.
I'm one myself, come to think of it.
melior
Two words: Halle Berry. Another two: Alicia Keys.
Proof that race mixing is a very good thing.
I was I think in the third grade when Roots came out, and I remember our teacher telling us that slaves were really not much worse off than factory workers in the north.
Jim
Could be a smidgen of truth to that, but still a silly thing to say.
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The USSR didn't fail because of economics.
Speaking of dogs. Time to walk them. Then time to start drinking!
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I've been enraged for about six years. It's high time some of those American Idol watchers give up some of their spleen. Mine is about used up.
My dog and cat are both rescued strays, so count me in the mutt fan club.
I'm one myself, come to think of it.
"We're Americans! We're mutts! Our ancestors were kicked out of every decent country on earth!" / Bill Murray, 'Stripes'
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Did the prof ever publish this? I'd be interested in reading it.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I'll see if he ever published anything on the subject. This class was 15yo. TBO, I've forgotten his name. I remember the lettuce mostly.
That definitely contributed, as did Gorby's necessary, progressive ideas.
NTodd, Kettlepot
I've always given Gorbachev a great deal of the credit. A great deal.
Tena | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:15 pm |
He, like de Klerk in S Africa, understood that the system wasn't going to work, and to make as peaceful adjustment as possible. Both transitions could have been much, much worse (not that the transition in the former USSR has gone the way I'd like it, but it really could have been truly horrible).
Aggressive Lab stats? Not to mention that, there are so many more Labrador dogs than, say, rottweilers in America that sheer statistics takes care of the problem. (
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Cynicus
The stats were checked against that.
They aren't aggressive.... until they (*if they do*) snap, and then they are most likely to attack someone in their family. In fact, most of the dogs in the top ten for inappropriate aggression are not usually thought of as agressive.
Retriever dogs, however, have soft mouths, and are not as likely to do as much damage as a Pittie or Rott. The stats aren't gleened from bite statistics (which only count agression that results in medical attention), it's from vets and trainers that deal with agressive animals.
I've been enraged for about six years.
noblejoanie
I can see you've been paying attention.
Woody's 1554 was a bit too dark, so it's all Shiner Bock all the time since around 4p.
TinyPorcelainMouse
Perfect! Shiner Bock is my favorite. I always have some in my fridge. Always.
I think Atrios' question is easy to answer. People have realized that everyone in the bush administration is hopelessly either incompetent, fucked up or both.
So they're pessimistic about the country's prospects for the next 2 years.
Proof that race mixing is a very good thing.
Allie
And there's more of that going on than ever before.
That was a rather major racist cultural taboo line the country finally seems to have crossed.
It was always a fact, but not acknowledged. Now it's no thang.
The USSR didn't fail because of economics.
It was certainly part of it.
Perfect! Shiner Bock is my favorite. I always have some in my fridge. Always.
There's a restaurant in Texas that makes shiner bock bread.
It is FUCKING delicious!!!
(Saltgrass)
Tiger Woods
Derek Jeter
Barack Obama
They aren't aggressive.... until they (*if they do*) snap, and then they are most likely to attack someone in their family
In that Marley book, there is mention of some kind of syndrome typical in Labs. I forget the name, but it's basically a one-time psychosis which will make them turn violent on anyone (or thing) in front of them, and five minutes later they revert to their old self.
The USSR didn't fail because of economics.
bill | 03.31.07 - 7:16 pm
Oh, not entirely, but the economic system that it was using wasn't very efficient, at least not for about 98% of the population.
Both transitions could have been much, much worse (not that the transition in the former USSR has gone the way I'd like it, but it really could have been truly horrible).
Interesting how much *better* transitions can go if there's a military/police force in place.
heh.
For those interested, I've updated and cleaned up the New Orleans liveblogging from today.
For some reason, when I post from e-mail, the formatting is not what I'd like it to be (for example, it always posts in a smaller font, and I don't know how to add HTML tags to it). So now everything's up to date (not in Kansas City, however), and some corrections, links, etc. have been added.
I even got to link a "Simels regrets" line for the first time!
So they're pessimistic about the country's prospects for the next 2 years.
fourlegsgood
Yeah, I agree. I said so upthread - everyone by now has seen enough of CooCoo that they all think he's retarded. It makes everyone nervous to have a leader that fucking arrogantly stupid. That's one thing that trickles down for certain - shit runs downhill. The whole government has gone to shit.
They got what they wanted.
We'll have to put it back together. We will.
R. Manhammer, curmudgeon!
NO FIG TREES! Trust me on this - they grow like weeds and there is exactly one receipt to deal with figs. The rest, all of them, end up at the foot of the trees, rotting into a particularly nasty alcohol stew. The layering, otherwise? Excellent idea. Substitute pomegranates for figs however. Works exceptionally well - you can always let the pomegranates go back to being bushes.
And Sallyh? PECANS would be most excellent! I was lucky enough at the Basha's the other day to scoop up like a three pound sack of pecans on sale, which are now divided and in the deep freeze.
Two words: Halle Berry. Another two: Alicia Keys.
Proof that race mixing is a very good thing.
Spent my teen years on Ft. Campbell. All the guys there with foriegn wives - German, Korean, wherever -and the guys being from every US group of all shades.
And no matter how butt-ugly mom & dad were, their kids were traffic-stopping good looking. All of 'em.
A little hint that goes unnoticed everyday. Go figger.
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Dunno, but it has to get transported in trucks via gasoline and lots of crops are getting displaced to grow corn for ethanol. But it may be something different.
Hecate
Agave's link pointed to crop damage
Chernobyl (Gorby using Chernobyl as a way to get perestroika and glasnost up and running).
Maybe the way out for us is to clog the cooling water intakes at Three Mile Island and San Onfre with Bush an a few hundred overly influential neocons. After the meltdowns, with World wouild be more sysmpathetic towards us and step in to save us.
Well, it's a thought.
He, like de Klerk in S Africa, understood that the system wasn't going to work, and to make as peaceful adjustment as possible.
Amen. They worked themselves out of a job, which is pretty fucking moral from where I sit.
That was a rather major racist cultural taboo line the country finally seems to have crossed.
For sane people, maybe.
Not so much for people who are terrified of the future brown-skinned majority.
It was always a fact, but not acknowledged. Now it's no thang.
Tena
My 15-year-old daughter (African-American) is currently crushing on a Palestinian boy. Her former boyfriends were Latino, and one was Black.
By boyfriend I mean for two weeks. She also loves the skinny, pale, Emo boys with eyeliner.
at least not for about 98% of the population.
Only 98%?
The USSR didn't fail because of economics.
It was certainly part of it.
NTodd, Kettlepot
I thought it was Reagan's hair?
Tiger Woods
Derek Jeter
Barack Obama
Culture of Trth
Rae Dawn Chong.
*scwhing!*
Something simply must be done about the national epidemic of tail-wagging and face-licking injuries.
melior
One was put down in my neighbourhood last year for attacking a kid with no warning. Only other dogs that I have known personally to have been put down for biting people were a dalmatian and a springer spaniel.
My dog and cat are both rescued strays, so count me in the mutt fan club.
I'm one myself, come to think of it.
"We're Americans! We're mutts! Our ancestors were kicked out of every decent country on earth!" / Bill Murray, 'Stripes'
Someone actually left a comment on my blog dressing me down for getting Maddie from a breeder.
Considering the number of animals I've adopted over the years, I figured I'm allowed.
So they can blow me. I wanted me a maine coon kitten so I gots me one.
Rome didn't fall because of lead pipes.
Whenever I hear Buchanan or others of his ilk whining that "White people are going to dissappear" I can't help thinking, "'Bout time." I don't imagine we'll ever be homogeneous, cafe au lait , but somehow you just can't picture a bunch of jerks in sheets shouting "Tan Power!"
Someone actually left a comment on my blog dressing me down for getting Maddie from a breeder.
I was I think in the third grade when Roots came out, and I remember our teacher telling us that slaves were really not much worse off than factory workers in the north.
Jim
When the factory manager can sell off your children to improve the bottom line, then we can talk. Until then, it's just bullshit.
And it's that exact sort of bullshit that's making it's way back through the xtian private schools. Anyone else remember that little contretemps in South Carolina?
Someone actually left a comment on my blog dressing me down for getting Maddie from a breeder.
It's not your fault that people "forget" to spay/neuter they're companions. Fuck that trollish bastard person.
Rome didn't fall because of Christianity.
Amen. They worked themselves out of a job, which is pretty fucking moral from where I sit.
NTod
Yes. Rare, too.
How about: Google maps now shows pre-Katrina New Orleans instead of the real, current New Orleans.
All Lies, All the Time.
I just don't think we stumbled off the bright and shining path sometime recently, and just need to get back on it.
Yeah. The injustices that were part of the founding, establishment and retrenchment of power of the U.S. remain alive, if different, as much as the any of the visionary goals for the country.
The trend has been to expand on the rights in the Bill of Rights, not to narrow their scope. We're in a stunning setback period, but that has been the trend.
Zizek made a related point in his NYT op-ed last week:
Are we aware that the last time such things were part of public discourse was back in the late Middle Ages, when torture was still a public spectacle, an honorable way to test a captured enemy who might gain the admiration of the crowd if he bore the pain with dignity? Do we really want to return to this kind of primitive warrior ethics?
This is why, in the end, the greatest victims of torture-as-usual are the rest of us, the informed public. A precious part of our collective identity has been irretrievably lost. We are in the middle of a process of moral corruption: those in power are literally trying to break a part of our ethical backbone, to dampen and undo what is arguably our civilizations greatest achievement, the growth of our spontaneous moral sensitivity.
Both transitions could have been much, much worse (not that the transition in the former USSR has gone the way I'd like it, but it really could have been truly horrible).
Interesting how much *better* transitions can go if there's a military/police force in place.
heh.
pie | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:21 pm |
I've wondered what would Russia be like if Yeltsin had dissolved Parliament right after the coup. Perhaps more 'democratic' minded parliamentarians than the ones that were there. There was an opporunity after the coup that slipped away.
And no matter how butt-ugly mom & dad were, their kids were traffic-stopping good looking. All of 'em.
A little hint that goes unnoticed everyday. Go figger.
-
Cynicus
Although White Supremacists have their charm...
http://www.nynewsday.com/media/p...06/
18001120.jpg
I don't imagine we'll ever be homogeneous, cafe au lait , but somehow you just can't picture a bunch of jerks in sheets shouting "Tan Power!"
catalexis Cmdr. re-ed camp 6
Did someone say caf au lait?
Did I hear it correctly that Watertiger shaved her head after watching "Alien 3" last night?
It could have been a rumor.
I've been enraged for about six years. It's high time some of those American Idol watchers give up some of their spleen. Mine is about used up. - noblejoanie
Just kick some spleen out of one of them and take it. You're entitled.
And Sallyh? PECANS would be most excellent! I was lucky enough at the Basha's the other day to scoop up like a three pound sack of pecans on sale, which are now divided and in the deep freeze.
Pecan trees are nice.
I think another important point is that the US has had a long history of political corruption, from the smoke filled rooms of Tammany Hall, to the red baiting of Joe McCarthy. Republican malfeasance of the current era is really a throwback to those bad old days.
All Lies, All the Time.
Scorpio
Your tinfoil on a little tight today?
Hot stuff, comin' through!
http://www.usdoj.gov/marshals/hi...-klan-
march.jpg
Is $250 too much to pay for a sweeper?
4legs - Someone actually left a comment on my blog dressing me down for getting Maddie from a breeder
When did people get the idea that that is any of anyone else's business? Goddamn!
My dog and cat are both rescued strays, so count me in the mutt fan club.
I'm one myself, come to think of it.
melior
Two words: Halle Berry. Another two: Alicia Keys.
Proof that race mixing is a very good thing.
Allie | 03.31.07 - 7:15 pm
Few years ago Time (IIRC) published a cover showing what everybody would eventually look like based on computer simulated race mixing. The ultimate results were very good looking.
everyone by now has seen enough of CooCoo that they all think he's retarded. It makes everyone nervous to have a leader that fucking arrogantly stupid.
Tena
Yep. My curmudgeony Dad is finally coming down with a bad case of buyer's remorse after 6 years of thinking Chimpy can do no wrong.
McCarthy, though -- still a national hero.
From a breeder I can get genetic and temper guarantees. Can't get that from a pound.
The country (the US) that has always patted itself on the back as a champion of freedom and democracy practiced a North American version of apartheid for a century.
Quite true.
Hitler looked to the United States for ideas that he further refined into the horrors of the Holocaust.
I've wondered what would Russia be like if Yeltsin had dissolved Parliament right after the coup. Perhaps more 'democratic' minded parliamentarians than the ones that were there. There was an opporunity after the coup that slipped away.
Fucker was a demagogue. He wasn't capable of seizing the opportunity.
Is $250 too much to pay for a sweeper?
bear
What's the death per refill rate?
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He, like de Klerk in S Africa, understood that the system wasn't going to work, and to make as peaceful adjustment as possible.
Amen. They worked themselves out of a job, which is pretty fucking moral from where I sit.
NTodd, Kettlepot | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:21 pm
I think de Klerk was more aware of that than Gorby. I think it took Gorby awhile to understand that he was the transition guy, and the Russians were sick of him.
It's not your fault that people "forget" to spay/neuter they're companions. Fuck that trollish bastard person.
That was my reaction. After dealing with Maxx, I wanted a health guarantee.
At some point I'll probably get Maddie a friend, and that will be an adopted kitty.
When the factory manager can sell off your children to improve the bottom line, then we can talk. Until then, it's just bullshit.
They discovered it's more efficient and profitable to bribe elected officials to simply sell off your children's future to improve this quarter's numbers.
So, in the spirit of 'progress' you get to keep your kids with you in the quarters.
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I think another important point is that the US has had a long history of political corruption, from the smoke filled rooms of Tammany Hall, to the red baiting of Joe McCarthy. Republican malfeasance of the current era is really a throwback to those bad old days.
Richard
May I?:
I think another important point is that all governments have had a long history of political corruption...
Show me a government anywhere ever that wasn't corrupt. I'm not excusing it, but it's not unique to us, by any means. We've been rather mildly corrupt in the past, compared to many another country.
How about: Google maps now shows pre-Katrina New Orleans instead of the real, current New Orleans.
All Lies, All the Time.
Scorpio | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:24 pm | #
According to the GEC and my sources at Google, the imagery for New Orleans was actually changed last September. The previous imagery was directly after the storm struck, and was of inferior quality. Although the imagery of New Orleans is from pre-Katrina now, it is of better quality. If you have the Plus or Pro version of Google Earth you have the option to load two sets of post-Katrina imagery by logging out of the primary database. I think Google should consider getting more recent high quality imagery for New Orleans so it at least represents the present condition.
http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/
a...ws_prekatr.html
Proof that race mixing is a very good thing.
A friend of mine mentioned to me that the most beautiful woman he had ever seen had a Chinese mother and a black father.
From a breeder I can get genetic and temper guarantees. Can't get that from a pound.
Maine coons sometimes have heart problems and hip dysplasia.
I wanted a kitten that wouldn't have those problems.
I'm not adverse to pound kitties at all. I just really, really, really wanted another maine coon.
Did I hear it correctly that Watertiger shaved her head after watching "Alien 3" last night?
[runs hand over shorn skull]
Yup.
but somehow you just can't picture a bunch of jerks in sheets shouting "Tan Power!"
catalexis Cmdr. re-ed camp 6 | 03.31.07 - 7:23 pm |
Years ago someone (white and and from Mississippi)who had spent some time in Liberia told me that the group then running the country would have fitted right in with the KKK once they had put the sheets on.
Sorry about the fucking tags fucking error.
I remember the lettuce mostly.
Now you have the first line of your short story.
That was a rather major racist cultural taboo line the country finally seems to have crossed.
It was always a fact, but not acknowledged. Now it's no thang.
Oh, it's still an issue for some people.
They got what they wanted.
Tena
Exactly. And don't think for one moment that I won't rub it in for the next six decades, should I be so unfortunate as to last that long.
Is $250 too much to pay for a sweeper?
bear | 03.31.07 - 7:26 pm
For a sweeper, yes.
For a vacuum, that's about right.
JR, were shar-pei on the list?
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Halle Berry is the reason this short white woman would marry a tall black man next if I had it to do all over again. Beautiful children. Not that mine aren't.
Rome didn't fall because of Christianity.
bill
It's so funny that the adoption of Christianity as the state religion seems to dovetail nicely with the collapse of the Western Empire, though.
I'm not adverse to pound kitties at all. I just really, really, really wanted another maine coon.
fourlegsgood
You don't need no steenking badges.
You don't owe any explanations to any damn body at all.
My gawd - I just don't understand pushy, clueless people.
Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
Is $250 too much to pay for a sweeper?
bear | 03.31.07 - 7:26 pm
Well, it's more than I would pay. I tend to just pick those kinds of appliances up at Sears.
Of course, I've never had really expensive carpeting, nor have I ever been a terrific housekeeper.
I would probably pay about $180.
I've wondered what would Russia be like if Yeltsin had dissolved Parliament right after the coup. Perhaps more 'democratic' minded parliamentarians than the ones that were there. There was an opporunity after the coup that slipped away.
Fucker was a demagogue. He wasn't capable of seizing the opportunity.
NTodd, Kettlepot | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:27 pm | #
No, he wasn't. He was good at goading Gorby, but as for actually governing, ach!
My gawd - I just don't understand pushy, clueless people.
Yeah, me either.
How is the country headed in the wrong direction?
Lazy, selfish cynicism instead of trying.
Greed instead of generosity.
Empty materialism instead of knowledge.
Republican-fascist media instead of news.
And then there's the food.
Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
C'mon, those blonde Nazi singers are cuuuute!
Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
Why do you think they congregate together?
Tiger Woods
Derek Jeter
Barack Obama
Culture of Trth
The teh hottie in my life is from Maryland free blacks with a white grandfather. He's as yummy as choco jesus.
Imagine the nerve of these people criticizing 4lg, getting down on OPP.
I'm sorry I just couldn't resist that one.
NO FIG TREES! Trust me on this - they grow like weeds and there is exactly one receipt to deal with figs. The rest, all of them, end up at the foot of the trees, rotting into a particularly nasty alcohol stew. The layering, otherwise? Excellent idea. Substitute pomegranates for figs however. Works exceptionally well - you can always let the pomegranates go back to being bushes.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Lovely to see you again, as always.
I know nothing of pomegranates, other than they are not native to my area. Still, a LOT of my crops aren't native. But the figs are, strangely enough, as are the pecans and pines.
My idea with the figs is two-fold. First, fig preserves are quite popular in my area. Second, the birds ADORE ripening figs. I'm hoping to distract the little feathered morons from more valuable crops by providing them with figs (sneaky, eh?). And, I'm hoping the livestock will eat the excess. If they don't, well, the compost pile is always in need.
First batch of chocolate caramel pecan chip cookies is up! Fresh and warm, get in before they get cool!
Oh, it's still an issue for some people.
masculine_monica_nyc
Of course it is, I never meant to say it wasn't. I imagine that may be a fact forever - I dunno.
Well, I must go. Dinner calls.
And here in New Orleans, it calls especially fervently.
Thank you, all of you, for making this a great community. Seriously. I saw it today over and over again. I wish you all could have been here with us.
Laterz, batz.
Show me a government anywhere ever that wasn't corrupt. I'm not excusing it, but it's not unique to us, by any means. We've been rather mildly corrupt in the past, compared to many another country.
The percepiton of corruption varies from place to place, but greasing the levers of power has always been a good way to turn a fast buck or two.
Even out here in supposedly pristine Oregon there is a great deal of under the table bullshit that happens all the time to push taxpayer largess into the properly connected private sector pockets.
Show me a government anywhere ever that wasn't corrupt. I'm not excusing it, but it's not unique to us, by any means.
But U.S. exceptionalism is exceptional, which makes its corruption the more so.
I remember the lettuce mostly.
Now you have the first line of your short story.
I think Tom Robbins already has the copyright.
Rome fell because the supply of slaves dried up. Rome fell because of economics. The soviet union fell because of the absence of christianity.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...3/31/162116/
977
Do check out this DKos diary, where it is reported that Romney isn't sure about whether the president should have the authority to arrest citizens without review, but Ghouliani would want to use "infrequently." Romney, as far as I know, has studied law; Rudy was a USAtty.
Republicans are very scary people.
Rudy should never be allowed near power again.
C'mon, those blonde Nazi singers are cuuuute!
NTodd, Kettlepot
True. Why do you think they're famous? Kind of like the tallest man or the bearded lady. I don't think it's because of their singing talent.
Christianity becoming the state religion of Rome was the divorcing of anything Jesus taught from Christianity. It is clear that what he was talking about couldn't become any kind of state religion. "christians" have brought a rather decent Jewish prophet into disrepute.
Rome fell because the supply of slaves dried up. Rome fell because of economics. The soviet union fell because of the absence of christianity.
bill | 03.31.07 - 7:35 pm
Mmmmm, that would be no.
U.S. exceptionalism is exceptional, which makes its corruption the more so.
We're #1! USA! USA! USA!
*sigh*
Back when I had some energy I offered to make souffle for dinner. Now I guess I hafta.
Have a good evening, you bats!
Years ago someone (white and and from Mississippi)who had spent some time in Liberia told me that the group then running the country would have fitted right in with the KKK once they had put the sheets on.
Liberia has had some troubles between the native Liberian tribes and the descendants of former American slaves. The Americans probably naturally fell into leadership roles and 100 years later the Africans were resentful of the Americans' power.
Roman Christianity was really the authoritarian cult of Paulism.
The soviet union fell because of the absence of christianity.
bill
Why did the Holy Roman Empire fall?
NTodd, if I send Mlle to you, what are you going to do about her crappy housekeeping and bitchy voice?
Rome didn't fall because of Christianity.
bill
It's so funny that the adoption of Christianity as the state religion seems to dovetail nicely with the collapse of the Western Empire, though.
Fellow named Gibbon wrote a bunch of "dammed, thick, square books" that said that "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" was from the adoption of Christianity. Other historians since have supported or refuted him. Go on, start reading.
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Years ago someone (white and and from Mississippi)who had spent some time in Liberia told me that the group then running the country would have fitted right in with the KKK once they had put the sheets on.
Liberia has had some troubles between the native Liberian tribes and the descendants of former American slaves. The Americans probably naturally fell into leadership roles and 100 years later the Africans were resentful of the Americans' power.
Snow, Propter Hoc | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:36 pm
There was an article a few years back that pointed out that the freed slaves brought to Liberia the gov't they'd known back home, which wasn't really very democratic or open-minded.
Ummmmm, cookies.
researchers believe the teeth may have had some kind of ritualistic, spiritual meaning
Now, were these vaginal teeth?
Ironically, the Soviet Union was never without Christianity.
Education helps.
Why did the Holy Roman Empire fall?
olvlzl, guilty habit
A lack of genetic diversity?
JR, were shar-pei on the list?
.
GWPDA
Nope, nor pugs, bulldogs, etc.
Also, very few puntables, which is defiitely a skew caused by their size. Pomeranians and Jack Russells should definitely be on that list.
Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
Pastey complexions? Trans fat?
Why did the Holy Roman Empire fall?
Too many krauts.
I didn't know this before, but the Vandals were Christians. They were just a different flavor of Christians.
So their actions against Rome were tied to doctrinal differences, and now we associate them with, well, vandalism.
Ironically, the Soviet Union was never without Christianity.
Education helps.
Snow, Propter Hoc | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:39 pm |
Nope, and the Orthodox Church closeness with the powers that be has allowed the Church to become corrupted (IMHO).
NTodd, if I send Mlle to you, what are you going to do about her crappy housekeeping and bitchy voice?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Oooooh! Spankings for everyone!
olvzl--hey, be nice to pasty complexioned peeps!
Rome fell because the supply of slaves dried up. Rome fell because of economics. The soviet union fell because of the absence of christianity.
I remember the first time I smoked crack.
NTodd, if I send Mlle to you, what are you going to do about her crappy housekeeping and bitchy voice?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Young'uns always act better at someone else's house.
I never could convince friends that my ex GF's kid was a terror. They just never had problems with her when she stayed with them, she was a sweety!
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Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
Because someone good-looking enough to be getting much sex sees other races as an opportunity to get it on with more people, instead of a threat to "your own" wimmin?
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OT--How does W get away with saying total lies like "If Congress fails to pass a bill funding our troops on the front line..."?
It's not even debatable that the bill under debate gives W more than he requested in funding. Yet it's debatable on cable news
Idiots beyond endurance--cable off. No standing it.
Parisian cabaret music on CD.
Why did the Holy Roman Empire fall?
olvlzl, guilty habit
A lack of genetic diversity?
Allie | 03.31.07 - 7:39 pm
On the contrary.
Ironically, the Soviet Union was never without Christianity.
Education helps.
Snow, Propter Hoc
If Hoxha couldn't stamp out religion in Albania I doubt it can be done anywhere.
'lo batz.
What's happening in these here intertubes?
Show me a government anywhere ever that wasn't corrupt. I'm not excusing it, but it's not unique to us, by any means. We've been rather mildly corrupt in the past, compared to many another country.
We have the separation of powers and other protections against exactly what The K Street Hammers, The Abramoffs, The Halliburtons, The Bechtels, as nauseum have wrought through this evil DC climate of greed.
Both parties went along too, the DEMs did not step up.
That they are now is great but we should keep the fires burning for election reform, campaign funding reform etc.
The soviet union fell because of the absence of christianity.
bill
:LOL:
Pull the other one.
Too tired to read the thread as I've been at a conference all day, but my guess is that the people who don't like where the country is going have two very different sets of ideas about what is wrong. There is our set of ideas and then there is the Talibamerica ideas.
So being dissatisfied doesn't mean that people agree with what is going wrong.
the freed slaves brought to Liberia the gov't they'd known back home
There was actually an organization that helped freed slaves move to Liberia and I believe they were the ones who set up the structure of the government.
Poland fell because of the lack of Kielbasa.
I recall a teacher telling me long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away that the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.
Flory--did you make it safe home?
The soviet union fell because of the absence of christianity.
bill
Reagun did it! Liar!
.
Poland fell because of the lack of Kielbasa.
On the contrary.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I was just trying to tie my other comments in while giving a nod to the Hapsburg jaw.
I dunno. Moonmen?
Reagan personally cleared out the Kremlin. It was on a Friday afternoon. I remember it like yesterday.
NTodd, if I send Mlle to you, what are you going to do about her crappy housekeeping and bitchy voice?
Her housekeeping cannot be worse than mine. And I have selective deafness...
Why did the Holy Roman Empire fall?
Bad dates.
i think the executive branch is the most corrupt i've seen in my lifetime.
'lo batz.
'hi bat.
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Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
*
Appalaichan inbreeding, baby.
What's happening in these here intertubes?
Many things.
Good commenting today. The trolls seem to be jerking off somewhere else, for the most part.
Every so often NToddler tries to steer us off on some wackadoodle tangent, but we've been resolute in our resistance.
Reagan personally cleared out the Kremlin. It was on a Friday afternoon. I remember it like yesterday.
trifecta
I thought there was a grudge match between Nancy and Raisa.
On the contrary.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I was just trying to tie my other comments in while giving a nod to the Hapsburg jaw.
I dunno. Moonmen?
Allie | 03.31.07 - 7:44 pm
The same aliens who built the pyramids.
Scrolling upwards, I see a surefire hit sitcom--Sallyh as NTodd's mother-in-law
But Mlle steals the show, wins the Best Supporting Emmy
Reagan personally cleared out the Kremlin. It was on a Friday afternoon. I remember it like yesterday.
You're no Republican - they can't remember squat.
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The Holy Roman Empire fell due to bad arches.
gtown better not let ohio state get a big lead.
I spent last night with a couple of friends who work for the post office and they asked me if I voted for the Star Wars Stamp yet. I had no idea what she was talking about. It turns out the USPS is celebrating the 30th annniversary of Star Wars. They even have mailboxes shapped like R2D2.
check out the site and vote:
http://www.usps.com/
There was actually an organization that helped freed slaves move to Liberia and I believe they were the ones who set up the structure of the government.
Yeah, the capital is Monrovia for a reason. Named after James Monroe.
In 1900, Liberia and Ethiopia were the only two tracts of land in Africa not under the control of one of the European states. Liberia was defacto an American protectorate.
Dr. Robert Oppenheimer's
optimism fell
at the first hurdle.
-Billy Bragg
Reagan personally cleared out the Kremlin. It was on a Friday afternoon. I remember it like yesterday.
trifecta
Wasn't he dressed all in white with a big rifle and saying stuff like, "Hasta la vista, Gorby"....
Scrolling upwards, I see a surefire hit sitcom--Sallyh as NTodd's mother-in-law
I will be handling Maddie's representation. We will build an empire to dwarf the Olsen Twins.
But U.S. exceptionalism is exceptional, which makes its corruption the more so.
When a lot of people have a false, squeaky clean image of their own country's history, I think it's ultimately quite harmful. I think such semi-mythological viewpoints makes it easier for the folks in power to get away with playing the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Every so often NToddler tries to steer us off on some wackadoodle tangent, but we've been resolute in our resistance.
After Maddie smacked him down last night, I'm surprised he'd dare.
Why did the Holy Roman Empire fall?
Bad dates.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:44 pm
Food poisoning acquired from the orgy buffet?
From Mark Smith, via the Risks digest:
On page 24 of the April 2007 issue of Harper's magazine, which arrived in my mailbox today, is a little article entitled, "Rooked." It says that a Dutch organization called We Do Not Trust Voting Computers, bought two voting machines to test and found that they were very insecure. They put out a statement saying that one machine was so insecure that it "could just as easily be programmed to play chess as to lie about election results." The machine manufacturer, Nedap, challenged their claim, so the group actually programmed the voting machine to play chess.
I thought there was a grudge match between Nancy and Raisa.
Totally plausible.
Nancy did not like Raisa AT ALL.
Food poisoning acquired from the orgy buffet?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 03.31.07 - 7:47 pm | #
the smorgasboard of sex?
Why are white supremacists almost always so freakishly ugly? I mean on the outside?
*
Appalaichan inbreeding, baby.
Now, that explains MY looks. But not those of the white supremacist groups in general, which are throughout the country. See my post of 7:41 for my guess.
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Flory--did you make it safe home?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yesterday, early afternoon. Twas a joyous time....
Every so often NToddler tries to steer us off on some wackadoodle tangent, but we've been resolute in our resistance.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I admire your strength of will.
But you shouldn't have mentioned the dread t-word. Now you'll have them all oozing out of the woodwork.
I had no idea what she was talking about. It turns out the USPS is celebrating the 30th annniversary of Star Wars. They even have mailboxes shapped like R2D2.
That was thirty years ago? Given the choice between bowling and going to see it I chose the movie. Never wished I was bowling so bad in my entire life.
gtown better not let ohio state get a big lead.
pretzel | 03.31.07 - 7:46 pm |
I think they should 'let' OSU win.
I have to marry Roger Ailes (the good one).
Either he stole my joke, or we are of one mind regarding CJ.
(and since none of you laughed at it yesterday)
i wonder if the machine cheated at chess, too? hey, where'd my rook go?
Reagan personally cleared out the Kremlin. It was on a Friday afternoon. I remember it like yesterday.
trifecta
Yes.
I clearly remember Him saying "Gorby! Pull down your Pants." To paraphase.
Or something.
.
They discovered it's more efficient and profitable to bribe elected officials to simply sell off your children's future to improve this quarter's numbers.
So, in the spirit of 'progress' you get to keep your kids with you in the quarters.
Cynicus
I think you have the causal relationship backwards. The slave owners were economically devastated, no doubt. However, the industrial guys up north, a slightly separate group of human exploiters, discovered wage peonage. Life hasn't been the same since.
Every so often NToddler tries to steer us off on some wackadoodle tangent, but we've been resolute in our resistance.
After Maddie smacked him down last night, I'm surprised he'd dare.
I never go off on tangents. And Maddie's smackdown achieves nothing more than the massacre at Amritsa.
I have the moral highground here, folks.
Does anyone in Eastern Europe think Reagan libereted them?
As I remember the Berlin Wall falling, it was Hungarian bureaucrats changing the emigration rules to allow other East Bloc citizens to exit without an exit visa
That and a hundred other small but deadly clever little moves
Show me a government anywhere ever that wasn't corrupt. I'm not excusing it, but it's not unique to us, by any means.
But U.S. exceptionalism is exceptional, which makes its corruption the more so.
masculine_monica_nyc
I won't dispute that for a second.
Only other dogs that I have known personally to have been put down for biting people were a dalmatian and a springer spaniel.
And Marv Albert walks free.
And, I'm hoping the livestock will eat the excess. If they don't, well, the compost pile is always in need.
R. Manhammer, curmudgeon!
Honey, pomegranates are native to anyplace except India. But - as drought tolerant, heat resistant and generally tough as nails shrubs they have great style. Also, left over figs don't compost. They rot. So, listen - put in your figs in hopes they'll deflect the birds. But put in pomegranates too. In five years, you can decide which ones you want to keep....
That was thirty years ago?
Shut up!
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Waiting for the dating...
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That was thirty years ago? Given the choice between bowling and going to see it I chose the movie. Never wished I was bowling so bad in my entire life.
Are you The Dude?
Nancy did not like Raisa AT ALL.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I can only imagine what Raisa said when Nancy Reagan wore that diaper dress to Paris. Lisa Minelli as First Lady. What the heck was she thinking?
Actually I liked Raisa.
When a lot of people have a false, squeaky clean image of their own country's history, I think it's ultimately quite harmful. I think such semi-mythological viewpoints makes it easier for the folks in power to get away with playing the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Richard | 03.31.07 - 7:47 pm |
I think it was Ernst Renan who wrote: Every country lies about its history. It is the historian's job not to.
Watch -- she ain't gonna show.
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researchers believe the teeth may have had some kind of ritualistic, spiritual meaning
Now, were these vaginal teeth?
masculine
Heh, anything that has to so with meat machination is revered!
in this game, 8 points is a big lead.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
The answer to the Mustard Mystery.
http://www.business-standard.com...0&
autono=279307
Jeff P? What the hell you doing here? You were supposed to be out dating!
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I absolutely hated that movie. It signaled the death of adult movie making that started in the 50s.
Echidne was at WAM:
... [Ellen Goodman] then made a very interesting argument about the old feminist slogan: Personal is Political, in the context of media coverage. She argued that the recent focus on the adultery and health problems of politicians as well as the whole family values debate might be at least partially seen as what happens when the press takes this slogan seriously without actually understanding what it means. Or so I understood her, in any case.
From my corner slightly different explanations for the current focus on politicians' private lives look more likely. News these days must make a profit, and if the way to make a profit is by talking about missing white women, shark attacks or the adultery of a politician, then that is what the news will focus on. Thirty years ago the news departments were not expected to produce a profit on their own and this gave them more freedom to stay on "real" news. When one adds to this the rise of the Christian right with its very specific interpretation of family values, what we get is not "Personal is Political" as much as "Personal is Politically and Economically Profitable."
Speaking of chess...do any of ya'll play online?
A late night match?
I'll bring the PAIN.
I have the moral highground here, folks.
NTodd, Kettlepot
Maddie has the pink feather boa.
You lose.
Watch -- she ain't gonna show.
Bartender, a shot of courage for JP here please.
Watch -- she ain't gonna show.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Gotta date?
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Waiting for the dating...
Watch out for the bad dates...
(yes, tigre, I saw yer comment)
Watch -- she ain't gonna show.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Oh, this sucks. This sucks big time.
I'd give some advice, but there are plenty of yentas around here to do that for you.
It's the price of gas. The higher the price goes, the worse the numbers will get. Oh yeah, then there's that war thing...
Echidne was at WAM
I was, indeed. And I learned that it is as easy to make a living from writing as from being the ethicist for the Bush admin.
I have the moral highground here, folks.
You underestimate Maddie's power.
olv.. I blame George Lucas and Steven Spielberg with Jaws and Star Wars of finally killing off the adult movie. Right before those came out, there were still adult movies in the early 70's. Now, not so much.
I doubt anyone shelter would let me adopt a kitten and with good reason.
But Tiger was living behind a garbage dumpster in a parking lot near a highway when I took him in.
I think he misses living outside.
It signaled the death of adult movie making that started in the 50s.
Uh, actually there are more adult movies than ever. Quick internet search will find bunches, i promise you.
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You underestimate Maddie's power.
I find your lack of faith.. disturbing.
Maddie has the pink feather boa.
You lose.
Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be kittens with boas, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always.
i used to play on icc. i got tired of all the wingnuts there.
Hand him a bottle of Jim Beam and lock the goddamn door behind you.
Tena | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 5:33 pm | #
And a bag of pretzels.
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Watch -- she ain't gonna show.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
How about a little positive thinking here?
I have the moral highground here, folks.
NTodd, Kettlepot
Well, I'm a guilty habit. So designated by a name blogger who I won't name because I don't know if the e-mail was authentic or a flame.
Fellow named Gibbon wrote a bunch of "dammed, thick, square books" that said that "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" was from the adoption of Christianity. Other historians since have supported or refuted him.
That's not quite Gibbon's thesis. Rome and Greece were always highly religious, even before christianity. Therefore your thesis that 'some religion' encroached on the enlightened 'brights' of the ancient world, which seems to be the limit of your understanding of the ancient world, is false. Gibbon's thesis is that christianity filled the void of a decaying civic virtue and sense of public purpose. It consolidated the decline, it didn't cause it. Gibbon always believed that religion wasn't dangerous as long as there was an independent sense of public duty. Which is what you would have to believe because the greek and roman religions, taken in and of themselves are as backward as any the world has ever seen.
Cynicus: Jeff P? What the hell you doing here? You were supposed to be out dating!
She called at 5:35, said she'd call when she was on the interstate. No call, yet. She's an hour away.
Like I said, she's gonna be a no-show, per usual.
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I absolutely hated that movie. It signaled the death of adult movie making that started in the 50s.
Well, I loved it.
So sue me.
I still love serious movies too.
I'll bring the PAIN.
TinyPorcelainMouse
I used to. Studied openings and was good. I never did well in the end game tho. My Dad was excellent and I would play him as a kid. He Always won, till one day, he was reading the paper as we played and I caught him with his guard down. I got to yell, "CHECK MATE!"
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I think it was Ernst Renan who wrote: Every country lies about its history. It is the historian's job not to.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Yeah, yeah. That's why classical historiography dictates you don't write history until at least fifty and preferably 75 years after the event. At least that way, anybody who could contradict your is probably dead.
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Well, I'm a guilty habit.
Mine. He is my guilty habit. Other people have weed. I have olvlzl.
Like I said, she's gonna be a no-show, per usual.
She's stood you up before?
Does anyone in Eastern Europe think Reagan libereted them?
As I remember the Berlin Wall falling, it was Hungarian bureaucrats changing the emigration rules to allow other East Bloc citizens to exit without an exit visa
That and a hundred other small but deadly clever little moves
Draco | 03.31.07 - 7:50 pm
Some Czechs do, especially the Czech hockey players playing here, who seem to be Republican due to the delusion that Reagan 'freed' them. The other E European countries, not so much.
Speaking of adult filmmaking, the Passion of the Christ starts in 7 minutes on TMC!
I have the moral highground here, folks.
NTodd, Kettlepot
Ewan McGregor, who had the high ground in episode III, is 36 today.
Watch it.
It was some guy with a pink feather boa shot that shot Gandhi.
fourlegsgood: She's stood you up before?
Many, many times.
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Think of it: always.
NTodd, Kettlepot
Has Maddie failed?
No?
QED
Yeah, yeah. That's why classical historiography dictates you don't write history until at least fifty and preferably 75 years after the event. At least that way, anybody who could contradict your is probably dead.
Speaking of history, I bought McCullough's 1776 today.
Nancy did not like Raisa AT ALL.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I can only imagine what Raisa said when Nancy Reagan wore that diaper dress to Paris. Lisa Minelli as First Lady. What the heck was she thinking?
Actually I liked Raisa.
olvlzl, guilty habit | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:51 pm |
Raisa had style, class and brains. Nancy, not so much.
olv.. I blame George Lucas and Steven Spielberg with Jaws and Star Wars of finally killing off the adult movie. Right before those came out, there were still adult movies in the early 70's. Now, not so much.
Spielberg and Lucas gave us the blockbuster paradigm, which by necessity of the marketplace means adult (that is, non-action/horror/silly comedy) films take a back seat. They are still made, but they're not nearly as likely to be blockbusters as films that appeal to teens and adults, and it's teens that Hollywood is fixated on.
Meanwhile, purely "adult" fare in the sexual sense is very profitable, just not so much that the media pays attention to it.
When a lot of people have a false, squeaky clean image of their own country's history, I think it's ultimately quite harmful. I think such semi-mythological viewpoints makes it easier for the folks in power to get away with playing the wolf in sheep's clothing.
It's not just the leaders who are responsible for national myths.
As if other nations didn't have their own sense of exceptionalism - they all do, in their own way. It's a way that a bunch of people are kept together. I'm sure clannishness and xenophobia are somewhat instinctive.
I've always thought that one of our jobs as a species was to overcome instinct with reason.
Nationalism is sucky and not a good tool for fashioning culture anymore. Time to evolve out of it culturally.
The U.S. military death toll in March, the first full month of the security crackdown, was nearly twice that of the Iraqi army, which American and Iraqi officials say is taking the leading role in the latest attempt to curb violence in the capital, surrounding cities and Anbar province, according to figures compiled on Saturday.
The Associated Press count of U.S. military deaths for the month was 81, including a soldier who died from non-combat causes Friday. Figures compiled from officials in the Iraqi ministries of Defense, Health and Interior showed the Iraqi military toll was 44. The Iraqi figures showed that 165 Iraqi police were killed in March. Many of the police serve in paramilitary units.
Un, Echidne, I've been called weedy too.
Or was that seedy? Or gone to seed? Something like that.
It was some guy with a pink feather boa shot that shot Gandhi.
Just to watch him die.
Well, I'm a guilty habit. So designated by a name blogger who I won't name because I don't know if the e-mail was authentic or a flame.
Well, I'm just confused by this statement.
Many, many times.
Good grief.
You need to forget that lady.
oh well, i guess it's going to be gtown and florida.
Have to go for the evening, batz. Be nice to each other -
Laterz.
I have the moral highground here, folks.
NTodd, Kettlepot
Listen to you, after you tried to pick a fight with an itty, bitty kitten.
Sheesh.
fourlegsgood: You need to forget that lady.
Lard knows I can be picky...! :-/
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Now, that explains MY looks. But not those of the white supremacist groups in general, which are throughout the country. See my post of 7:41 for my guess.
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Cynicus
I think I support your thesis. I think you should seek funding and pursue research.
Incidentally - Happy Cesar Chavez Day (in Arizona at least), and Happy Al Gore's Birthday (EVERYWHERE)!!!!
You need to forget that lady.
what 4LG said, amigo.
Well, I'm gonna do me some work and then cook a steak.
And possibly watch Borat.
Well, I'm just confused by this statement.
NTodd, Kettlepot
I kind of like the idea, though that could be due to the ambiguity of the idea. Ambiguity has saved many an ego.
Florence Foster Jenkins, for example.
what 4LG said, amigo.
watertiger
Indeed. Listen, maybe once is excusable, but more than that is not.
Good grief.
You need to forget that lady.
fourlegsgood magic kittenslave
Reallly.
One reason I gave up drugs.
Spend all evening trying to score or the dealer to show up.
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Raisa had style, class and brains. Nancy, not so much.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Although I've really liked her lately. Stem cell research supporter, and she produced a wonderful son.
Well, I'm gonna do me some work and then cook a steak.
And possibly watch Borat.
Tip: eat the steak before watching Borat.
I think it was Ernst Renan who wrote: Every country lies about its history. It is the historian's job not to.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Yeah, yeah. That's why classical historiography dictates you don't write history until at least fifty and preferably 75 years after the event. At least that way, anybody who could contradict your is probably dead.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 7:57 pm
I wonder what historians 100 years from will think of Bush. And those who supported him. Somewhere along the lines of "What the fuck were you people doing?!"
Just to watch him die.
watertiger
I love Keb Mo.
There was a cover album of Johnny Cash songs a while back. Keb changed the line "Just to watch him die" to "It was a lie"
Bugged the crap out of me for the longest.
I'm back in the Keb camp now...mainly due to his cover of Prine's "Angel from Montgomery"
Lard knows I can be picky...! :-/
Sorry, but you're better off alone.
Listen to you, after you tried to pick a fight with an itty, bitty kitten.
Actually -- *not* such an itty, bitty kidden.
but the theory still holds.....
Speaking of adult filmmaking, the Passion of the Christ starts in 7 minutes on TMC!
Too Much Chocolate?
Although I've really liked her lately. Stem cell research supporter, and she produced a wonderful son.
Who actually is her son.
Unlike Michael, who is adopted, and milks his last name for every fucking dime he can squeeze from it.
After a day of being serious, I am taking the night off.
To celebrate, I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.
I'm sure clannishness and xenophobia are somewhat instinctive.
Well, chimpanzees are apparently avid practioners of such behavior. Troops of chimps in the wild actually have territorial wars against each other.
Here's a link worth following up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Flo..._Foster_Jenkins
I wonder what historians 100 years from will think of Bush.
Oh, I don't.
I think the concensus will be that he was the worst president ever.
Indeed. Listen, maybe once is excusable, but more than that is not.
fourlegsgood magic kittenslave
Even once is just plain rude if she can't be bothered to call with an explanation.
fourlegsgood: Sorry, but you're better off alone.
Nothing in my life -- 'cept my cats -- is uncomplicated, y'dig?
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Hidely ho bloggerdoodles.
is michael the right wing commentator?
i read an article by him once, in which he claimed to be in dire straits sometime in the 80's, unable to get a job. of course, at the time, his dad was president, so i could not overcome my skepticism.
Although I've really liked her lately. Stem cell research supporter, and she produced a wonderful son.
Nancy, alas, is one of those people who need to be touched by tragedy in order to move into action. It's not enough to fight AIDS because it's bad, it took Rock Hudson dying for her to spring to action and poke Ronnie's staff into doing something.
But I'm nitpicking, the important thing is she is trying to change attitudes of other GOP types. I wish her luck with that.
"U.S. March Toll Nearly Twice Iraq Forces
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BAGHDAD (AP) - The U.S. military death toll in March, the first full month of the security crackdown, was nearly twice that of the Iraqi army, which American and Iraqi officials say is taking the leading role in the latest attempt to curb violence in the capital, surrounding cities and Anbar province, according to figures compiled on Saturday.
The Associated Press count of U.S. military deaths for the month was 81, including a soldier who died from non-combat causes Friday. Figures compiled from officials in the Iraqi ministries of Defense, Health and Interior showed the Iraqi military toll was 44. The Iraqi figures showed that 165 Iraqi police were killed in March. Many of the police serve in paramilitary units.
According to the AP count 3,246 U.S. service members have died in Iraq since the war began in March 2003.
At least 83 American forces died in January and 80 in February, according to the AP tabulation."
http://www.rawstory.com/
showarti...FD8O7ETV01.html
I'm off to cook salmon rigatoni.
Any chesslings 'round midnight are welcome.
later best folks on the planet.
Nothing in my life -- 'cept my cats -- is uncomplicated, y'dig?
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Jeffraham Prestonian
We are too! So. Are.
Decent people don't hurt other people. When they do, they apologise and try not to do it again. Those are the rules. You're allowed this courtesy just as much as anybody else.
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Pretzel: Yeah, Michael is the fanatical right winger Reagan kid.
"Deliverance" starting on AMC
i think i will start playing chess again, and just stay out of channel 97, the politics channel on icc.
Which is what you would have to believe because the greek and roman religions, taken in and of themselves are as backward as any the world has ever seen.
bill | 03.31.07 - 7:57 pm | #
Ok, it took you a while to Google Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and crib someone's counterarguments.
Now, try Charles Freeman, "The Closing of the Western Mind: The Rise of Faith and the Fall of Reason". It's going to take longer to google, so be patient.
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Tip: eat the steak before watching Borat.
G. Hodd
Watched Eraser Head while eating.
Did not finish the food.
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I'm not gonna be upset, one way or the other. My house is clean (cleaner, anyway), my sheets are laundered... I have beer and cats.
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Who actually is her son.
Unlike Michael, who is adopted, and milks his last name for every fucking dime he can squeeze from it.
His having been adopted doesn't make Michael any less the Reagans' son.
"U.S. March Toll Nearly Twice Iraq Forces
Mar 31, 7:28 PM (ET)
BAGHDAD (AP) - The U.S. military death toll in March, the first full month of the security crackdown, was nearly twice that of the Iraqi army, which American and Iraqi officials say is taking the leading role in the latest attempt to curb violence in the capital, surrounding cities and Anbar province, according to figures compiled on Saturday.
The Associated Press count of U.S. military deaths for the month was 81, including a soldier who died from non-combat causes Friday. Figures compiled from officials in the Iraqi ministries of Defense, Health and Interior showed the Iraqi military toll was 44. The Iraqi figures showed that 165 Iraqi police were killed in March. Many of the police serve in paramilitary units.
According to the AP count 3,246 U.S. service members have died in Iraq since the war began in March 2003.
At least 83 American forces died in January and 80 in February, according to the AP tabulation."
http://www.rawstory.com/
showarti...FD8O7ETV01.html
Hiya mena 
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Did you ever see my Mustard link?
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His having been adopted doesn't make Michael any less the Reagans' son.
masculine_monica_nyc
I dunno. Reagan spoke at Michael's graduation (from HS, IIRC) and didn't recognize him when he came up to get his diploma.
i like whichever reagan kid said "my dad has crapped bigger ones than george bush".
Watched Eraser Head while eating.
Did not finish the food.
I'm surprised there are no Eraserhaed gravatars.
Later.
GWPDA: Decent people don't hurt other people. When they do, they apologise and try not to do it again. Those are the rules. You're allowed this courtesy just as much as anybody else.
Eh, I'm not hurt. Disappointed, maybe. I've managed to keep an emotional distance on this one, seeing as she's definitely got commitment issues.
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The U.S. military death toll in March, the first full month of the security crackdown, was nearly twice that of the Iraqi army, which American and Iraqi officials say is taking the leading role in the latest attempt to curb violence in the capital, surrounding cities and Anbar province, according to figures compiled on Saturday.
Yes, by gum, the surge is working!
I'm not gonna be upset, one way or the other. My house is clean (cleaner, anyway), my sheets are laundered... I have beer and cats.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
There ya go!
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"Deliverance" starting on AMC
Get on up that hill boy, and watch it.
And on the commercials, squeal like a pig.
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Hey flory. For a minute i thought I was going to have to go nurse my unpopularity with alcohol. Come to think of it, what could it hurt?
Decent people don't hurt other people. When they do, they apologise and try not to do it again. Those are the rules. You're allowed this courtesy just as much as anybody else.
Yes.
By letting her do this to you and letting it pass you're saying that you're not worth being treated with courtesy and respect.
Fuck that.
You gotta respect yourself.
Listen to you, after you tried to pick a fight with an itty, bitty kitten.
You can't prove that.
I dunno. Reagan spoke at Michael's graduation (from HS, IIRC) and didn't recognize him when he came up to get his diploma.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
The Alzheimers onset was *much* earlier than anyone thought.
I dunno. Reagan spoke at Michael's graduation (from HS, IIRC) and didn't recognize him when he came up to get his diploma.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 03.31.07 - 8:10 pm | #
one time he failed to recognized his own HUD secretary. "Hello, Mr. Mayor"
Buckeyes earn right to lose to UCLA on Monday night.
i like whichever reagan kid said "my dad has crapped bigger ones than george bush".
That was Ron Jr.
He spoke at the 2004 Dem convention about stem cell research.
Just to show you how far off the Partei reservation he's gone.
Pretzel: Yeah, Michael is the fanatical right winger Reagan kid.
He was also adopted.
Thank fuck, it's mz mena! ::clink::
I've managed to keep an emotional distance on this one, seeing as she's definitely got commitment issues.
Sounds like she has asshattery issues.
But I'm nitpicking, the important thing is she is trying to change attitudes of other GOP types. I wish her luck with that.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
My impression of Nancy Reagan is that she just really loved her husband. Almost an apolitical political wife. If Ron had been a socialist, I think Nancy would have been protecting him and backing him up.
Ron, Jr. said that when those two were in the same room, no one else existed. Must have been hard on children.
Jeffra - anyone who'd pass you up has issues, period.
what is it with halo and names tonight?
You gotta respect yourself.
No Bruce Willis songs. Ever.
I don't care if it was a cover.
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Oh, and just a general by the way : All religions taken in and of themselves, with the bare bones and no details nor cultural inputs, will look backward.
Some will even with full particulars.
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Okay, really going to work for a while now.
no way ucla gets by florida.
fourlegsgood: Sounds like she has asshattery issues.
It might be different if I could pick up and head to Clarksville any time I felt like it.
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Yeah, JP. You deserve better treatment than that. Shoot, it's not like she's the only fish in the sea that you have to put up with that nasty crap. Excuses, schmexcuses. Standing someone up is a real insult.
Eh, I'm not hurt. Disappointed, maybe. I've managed to keep an emotional distance on this one, seeing as she's definitely got commitment issues.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Just hoping for some nookie, eh?
Emotional distance sounds like a plan.
You gotta respect yourself.
Was thinking more of Aretha.
I wonder what historians 100 years from will think of Bush.
Oh, I don't.
I think the concensus will be that he was the worst president ever.
fourlegsgood magic kittenslave | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 8:06 pm
Let me rephrase. I'm wondering how much harsher they'll be than we already are. Especially as hopefully they'll have access to documents that we might not have access to.
More cookies!
Poland fell because of the lack of Kielbasa.
Does this imply that the US will cease to exist if we eliminate cheeseburgers?
no way ucla gets by florida.
pretzel
I agree. Florida handled the Ducks, and the Ducks handled UCLA.
I think I have the Bush family figured out, fucked up as they are. Standard father-son craziness.
The Reagan family I can't figure out.
Although in all seriousness, 'decent' people hurt each other all fucking day long.
monica! ::clink::
A stem cell bill is coming up in the Senate in April. If Nancy Reagan makes all of those phone calls she made the last time around, there's a good chance we'll have a veto proof majority.
I hope her voice and her committment holds up.
pretzel--while UCLA is my graduate alma mater, I've always felt that betting on humiliating defeat was the safe bet.
no way ucla gets by florida.
pretzel
UCLA has killer D.
Say your prayers.
He spoke at the 2004 Dem convention about stem cell research.
Just to show you how far off the Partei reservation he's gone.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
He's also an atheist, which he says precludes him from ever running for office. He did look good in ballet tights, though.
I've managed to keep an emotional distance on this one, seeing as she's definitely got commitment issues.
And if the arrangement is that you're sex buddies not in a relationship that requires commitment beyond that then changing the schedule isn't a big deal, I think.
Buckeyes earn right to lose to UCLA on Monday night.
Fuck you, steelhead!
NASA Telescope Finds Planets Thrive Around Stellar Twins
March 29, 2007
The double sunset that Luke Skywalker gazed upon in the film "Star Wars" might not be a fantasy.
Astronomers using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope have observed that planetary systems dusty disks of asteroids, comets and possibly planets are at least as abundant in twin-star systems as they are in those, like our own, with only one star. Since more than half of all stars are twins, or binaries, the finding suggests the universe is packed with planets that have two suns. Sunsets on some of those worlds would resemble the ones on Luke Skywalker's planet, Tatooine, where two fiery balls dip below the horizon one by one.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/spi...er-
starwars.cfm
Come to think of it, what could it hurt?
mena
Much better to share it with friends, tho...no?
ok, florida wins a defensive struggle, 20-16.
. Especially as hopefully they'll have access to documents that we might not have access to.
Good question. On the one hand, papershredders. On the other hand, sheer bureaucratic paper generation (there are still uncounted thousands upon thousands of WWII documents that simple haven't been looked at for lack of historians to do so).
Which will win?
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to answer your questions as to why - - -
ummm ... yes?
Fuck you, steelhead!
NTodd, Kettlepot
I'll take bets in the form of kitties.
masculine_monica_nyc: And if the arrangement is that you're sex buddies not in a relationship that requires commitment beyond that then changing the schedule isn't a big deal, I think.
Well, she needs me more than I need her... but a ride to the grocery store would have been cool.
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Much better to share it with friends, tho...no?
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All I have tonight is beer. Should i make a run?
no way ucla gets by florida.
It's true. At critical moments, Billy Donovan drips grease from his hair onto the court to case opposing guards to slip and travel. Works every time. Every time.
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I think I have the Bush family figured out, fucked up as they are. Standard father-son craziness.
The Reagan family I can't figure out.
Man, the Reagan family had all sorts of issues going on, all the time. First, there's the Hollywood "let's adopt some kids" think that Ronnie and Jane did.
Then Jane leaves, Nancy comes in, and there are biological kids.
Then there's Ron Jr's observation cited above about how when Ron and Nancy were in the room, nothing else mattered. Nancy absolutely adored Ron, to the exculusion of almost everything else.
no way ucla gets by florida.
Is it trojan wraps gator, or gator cuts trojan?
Buckeyes earn right to lose to UCLA on Monday night.
Gomez | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 8:12 pm |
Delusional much?
no way ucla gets by florida.
Where exactly does one find a sex buddy?
Is that something you can advertise for on Craig's List?
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Wrong paste:
And if the arrangement is that you're sex buddies
no way ucla gets by florida.
Where exactly does one find a sex buddy?
Is that something you can advertise for on Craig's List?
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William H. Rehnquist | 03.31.07 - 8:20 pm | #
i wasnt flirting, your zombieship.
see! see! what is it with halo and names! stop it HAL! Just stop it...
monica--the Trojans are That Other School.
We be the Bruins
All I have tonight is beer. Should i make a run?
mena
Up to you. How much beer we got?
Is it trojan wraps gator, or gator cuts trojan?
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*snoring*
By the way, this AM kent promised to be my Handyman, baby, and walk me through getting pictures of Archy the Wonder Kitty onto this box thing. Soon the checks will come rolling in.
Um...monica...
USC be the Trojans.
UCLA be the Bruins.
The Bush family, a mafia family without the old world style, the food and any sense of honor.
The Reagans, lights, camera, greasepaint.
All I have tonight is beer. Should i make a run?
It's early Saturday evening, and you have Sunday night to consider as well. I say, slip on the shoes and make a quick trip.
Apprentice to Darth Holden owes me a tasty beverage.
flory - better make a run. What'll it be?
Where exactly does one find a sex buddy?
Trust me it never ends well.
Except once. We still like each other and keep in touch. The problem was I fell deeply in love and she handled it well.
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And if the arrangement is that you're sex buddies not in a relationship that requires commitment beyond that then changing the schedule isn't a big deal, I think.
It would be courteous to alert your fuck buddy that you're not going to show.
the bruins will be the viagra that excites florida to consumate it's 2d national championship monday.
In about two minutes, I'll go fetch additional beer, and settle in.
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Is it trojan wraps gator, or gator cuts trojan?
Is that a troll version of paper, rock, sissors?
Apprentice to Darth Holden owes me a tasty beverage.
On it's way to you with Darth Maul postage as we type.
Astronomers using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope have observed that planetary systems dusty disks of asteroids, comets and possibly planets are at least as abundant in twin-star systems as they are in those, like our own, with only one star.
Of course, in our own solar system, we have the gas giant, Jupiter, which has more mass than the rest of the planets put together.
If Jupiter had been somewhat larger, it would have become a star in it's own right.
William Rehnquist--if Liddy's not busy tonight...
Or you could do a threesome.
I thought it was friends with privileges not 'sex buddies'
btw HALO stop screwing with my name.
Hey, I never got an answer from the sockpuppeteer, did I.
I used to. Studied openings and was good. I never did well in the end game tho. My Dad was excellent and I would play him as a kid. He Always won, till one day, he was reading the paper as we played and I caught him with his guard down. I got to yell, "CHECK MATE!"
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agave
My father's chess downfall was giving me "Brilliancy Prize Games of the Chess Masters" for Xmas. I went over those games move by move for months.
Then I got him.
I'm a bit rusty now, time to use the SO as a whetstone....
It would be courteous to alert your fuck buddy that you're not going to show.
watertiger
Hon, I'm not going to be able to make it tonight.
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flory - better make a run. What'll it be?
mena
I is not picky. Whatever looks good to you.
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Not Atrios sheets ahead.
Avedon has snuck in a new thread on us.
Hon, I'm not going to be able to make it tonight.
Aiiight.
[blows out candles, takes down swing]
Mena, my advice is to get a shopping basket and fill it. It'll sort itself out later
Of course, in our own solar system, we have the gas giant, Jupiter, which has more mass than the rest of the planets put together.
If Jupiter had been somewhat larger, it would have become a star in it's own right.
What ever happened to the theorizing that Sol might have a brown dwarf twin out in the Oort somewhere - tyhe speculatively named "Nemesis"?
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It would be courteous to alert your fuck buddy that you're not going to show.
watertiger
Shit, even out-of-town people who stay just stay at my apartment have the decency to call if they're not coming in one night.
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?? Ezra? ?
mena | 03.31.07 - 8:25 pm | #
No, pigboy. Halo is messing with me tonight.
Or you could do a threesome.
I find threesomes too depressing. It's enough to preform inadequately for one woman. Two just compounds my sexual ineptitude.
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Okay, out for refreshments.
Okay, out for refreshments.
Hon, I'm not going to be able to make it tonight.
Aiiight.
[blows out candles, takes down swing]
watertiger
NTodd faints from the visual.
I'm a bit rusty now, time to use the SO as a whetstone....
JR, kerosene and a match
Be nice.
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Delusional much?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Florida is only favored by 3.
Not much.
Some will even with full particulars.
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Cynicus
All of them will.
[blows out candles, takes down swing]
You had a swing? What kinda swing? Where is it? How do you use it?
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Malkin drapes, owls
Where exactly does one find a sex buddy?
fuckbuddies.blogspot.com?
the Trojans are That Other School.
We be the Bruins
Oops!
Here's a link to the betting lines:
http://www.vegas.com/gaming/index.html
what is it with halo?
Just an aside here, If any one out there needs to lose a few pounds and is having a hard time. If you have some pain (or can fake it for the sake of losing weight) have your doc give you a prescription for a drug called Topamax. It makes EVERYTHING taste just awful and you can only eat small bits of anything.
WOrks like a charm
sheets
Bush will not be remembered well, and not because of his tremendous fuck ups.
Things like the economy, disasters like Katrina, or 9/11 will be criticized but with the passage of 100 years will be put into perspective.
He will be poorly remembered because there's no "there" there. No underlying philosophy, approach to public affairs, no writings, nothing to look back and write about and analyze.
Just a frat guy who blundered his way through a wrecked and corrupt presidency.
the only reason i have never voted republican for president is because of the supreme court
all other issues pale in comparison (notwithstanding a total dick put up by the dems in the future)
i simply laff at you stupid moron amerikan sheeple !!!!
bent over and contiously ass raped and then asking for more.
that's right - stay in a coma - see if we rich folk give a shit.
The dissatisfaction is over how much the truth has become an expendable commodity in all aspects of life, but particularly in the arena of government and politics, from regional to global.
make the list as long you wish... just make sure to have
all of the above
as the last choice.
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