I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me?
yeah, i've seen companies do this kind of thing before, eg firing its workers and rehiring them as temps. saves on health insurance.
Mimi.
If only Best Buy weren't such an equally crappy store, I could boycott Circuit City. But then again, I'll probably do so anyway, until Best Buy does the same thing.
Millions of unrealized revenue is lost each year as companies do not tear out the teeth and nails of their employees. Without tearing out the teeth and nails of your employees, you cannot hope to compete with such up-and-coming businesses as Slave Labor Prison #342 in the People's Republic of China.
maybe they determine the "prevailing wage" by assessing wage rates in china.
Steve | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 9:18 pm |
What on earth are you buying there now? Those are crappy stores anyway.
maybe they determine the "prevailing wage" by assessing wage rates in china.
They pretty much determine the prevailing wage by finding the cheapest hires here. Those would be people with no experience at all. The quality of service will drop and worker morale will deteriorate.
Rethugs not only regard workers' job and wage security as something kind of humorously quaint, they think you're being a dick toward corporate America's stockholders by even talking about it.
I guess they figure if being completely insane works for the president why not use it in business
Note that the share prices of Circuit City went up after this announcement. It's a cake-splitting game and if the workers get less the owners get more, assuming, which is unlikely, that the cake isn't getting smaller in absolute size.
Does Circuit City sell loveswings?
Cause if they did, all their problems would be solved.
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Bush calls on Iran to free 'hostages'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...n_go_pr_wh/
bush
My suspicion is that Iran took those hostages in order to discourage an air attack from all those aircraft carriers Bush now has stationed out in the Persian gulf.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 9:21 pm |
Share prices always go up after announcing something horrible and destabilizing; this is a reason to ignore them, rather than use the American style of relying entirely on them.
yeah, the share prices and executive compensation must go up at all costs.
reminds me of that egregious book "Who Moved My Cheese".
Somebody has been misinformed. That's why we used to have labor unions in America.
How come those CC employees don't just shoot their bosses like the Founding Fathers demand? It's a piss-poor American who's not willing festoon the bosses guts around the pole lights in the parking lot.
Monsieur and I informed CC that we would cease to be customers. This was in the LAT biz section the other day.
ot, but so far iran is treating their hostages better than we treat ours in guantanomo, abu ghraib etc.
I nominate "loveswings" to be the new "sheets/owls/drapes"
Hell, we can't even make the American flags in this country that annieangel says we're constantly shitting on.
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This is about the most scummy thing I've seen since Wal-Mart decided to try the variable schedule idea with its associates.
What does this decision say about what CC thinks about its customers? If I was a younger associate who could afford to do this - I'd wait the 11 weeks, get hired back on at a lower wage and then absoluteley fuck everything up I could. Customer service - in the toilet. Inventory - somehow missing. On shelf displays - curiously damaged and forced to be discounted to sale.
This is disgusting.
I got laid off on Thursday, my firm laid off all the long time EE's. My job is now being done in part by workers from India who are paid $250.00 a month. US corporations are in a footrace to the bottom.
Yup, I got "aged and waged" out of my job six weeks ago after seven years of great reviews and substantial increases.
Whenever I hear the phrase "new management" I want to stick my fingers into a blender.
The diaphanous Xymphora argues that war with Iran is not inevitable and that, in keeping with his theory on the importance of the infamous Clean Break paper (which future generations will be told was a Protocols variant), the real target is still Syria.
And don't ever get the extended warranty.
And don't ever get the extended warranty.
on the swing?
Whenever I hear the phrase "new management" I want to stick my fingers into a blender.
You might consider sticking management's fingers in the blender.
And don't ever get the extended warranty.
On the loveswing?
With Candy Crowley as my lover, I thought the warranty sounded like a good deal.
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Unrepentent,
I am sorry to hear this: I hope you have good prospects for future employment. I am sorry. That is not good news.
Fenian, I'm really sorry about that.
Have a drink or ten on me.
Unrepentant Fennian and vachon, I'm sorry to hear that. I would hire you if I had a firm. I might hire you anyway if you do windows.
Melissa and I discussed this earlier.
I worked at a company that was going thru hard times. They cut pay 10% rather than lay people off, then it was 12.5%.
We survived and the pay came back.
But, yeah. This seems like a shot at seniority.
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http://www.artespain.com/wp-cont...e-
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Funny thing about Tiger is that he really doesn't shed that much, but it was my fault for putting my plate on the floor.
As far as Circuit City goes, over xmas I had to buy a thing that only is sold as place like that, and I comparison shopped and everything especially customer service, was bad at CC and better at Best Buy.
William H. Rehnquist owes me some embalming liquid
"Well I certainly hope that they don't do anything rash like try to organize a union, those are just terrible terrible things and bad for the country and for the workers.
I say that if these people don't like it they just need to pull them selves up from their bootstraps and get a better job! It's a free country! If that happened to me that is what I would do. I wouldn't take any hand outs either! You don't like the system move to commie China!
It's probably their own fault for getting fired. I'll bet it =is because the Democrats are ready to raise taxes. That is why CC had to do this. It's the democrats fault!"
- A Wingnut.
P.S. Oh and companies did this all the time during Clinton's years and will again if the Hildabeast gets in!
(Did I capture the arguments correctly?)
NTodd--I always buy the deluxe extended warranty on my laptops. For those, they're worth the investment (I've always doubled my money back, at least).
Anything else, eh, not so much.
And don't ever get the extended warranty.
NTodd, Kettlepot
They hard sell that more than the underlying bag of merchandise.
the blender is probably made in china too. i think the repubs want to turn america into a 3d world country, with 3d world wages, figuring they will be floating on top.
YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, YOU COMMIE TERRORISTS!!
fuckers.
US corporations are in a footrace to the bottom.
Indeed. If you destroy the middle class so that there ultimately isn't anyone left who can afford your product, how are you going to survive?
Maybe shooting the boss isn't practical for some people. They should use a knife. Always leave the knife sticking there, tho. It makes a more profound statement and is a good morale builder.
A thrilling 13-16 tie with 6:24 to go in the first half....
Indeed. If you destroy the middle class so that there ultimately isn't anyone left who can afford your product, how are you going to survive?
You sell rice and footrags and trolleys for the homeless.
William H. Rehnquist owes me some embalming liquid
How about one of Judy Miller's spare Massengill Pine Forest Fresh lady products that she left at my house when she dumped me?
I'm not sure what you ladies do with those things. I suppose you might drink them.
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What happens when you say no to developers:
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...you-say-
no.html
Deacon--Gators ahead?
Which Side Are You On? by Florence Reese
Come all of you good workers, Good news to you I'll tell
Of how that good old union, Has come in here to dwell
Which side are you on?, Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?,Which side are you on?
My daddy was a miner, And I'm a miner's son
And I'll stick with the union, Till every battle's won
They say in Harlan County, There are no neutrals there
You'll either be a union man, Or a thug for J.H. Blair
Oh, workers can you stand it?, Oh, tell me how you can
Will you be a lousy scab, Or will you be a man?
Don't scab for the bosses, Don't listen to their lies
Us poor folks haven't got a chance,
Unless we organize
Thanks for the kind words. I have some good leads and I hoping to get a gig quickly so I can bank the severence pay. I'm gonna take a week or two just to relax. Going to opening day for the Cubs next week. It was wierd yesterday not getting up and gong to work.
Gaterz just streaked ahead, 19-16
Good grief.
"Maybe we'll let you work at a lower wage, but you gotta apply with us first.
And no, we don't give a fuck about your past glowing job reviews. It's simply not relevant."
I will never, ever buy anything there again.
I'm not sure what you ladies do with those things. I suppose you might drink them.
No. We put it in our water pistols.
joe, I've always said, if I'm going to kill someone, I want it to be personal. I agree that one should use a knife.
And I'd go for the eyes, which is really personalizing it.
Circuit City is useless as a retailer - their prices are uncompetitive and their selection is uninteresting. I presume that has quite a lot to do with their corporate policy and very little to do with the worker bees.
i must admit, my 20-16 prediction is wrong, wrong, wrong.
US corporations are in a footrace to the bottom.
You probably already know this, but the race to the bottom is much more comfortable in a loveswing. It saves your back and avoids painful rug burns.
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My suspicion is that Iran took those hostages in order to discourage an air attack from all those aircraft carriers Bush now has stationed out in the Persian gulf.
Richard | 03.31.07 - 9:22 pm
Exactly.
But we don't know where they are. Pesky Iranians!
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...o-as-i-
say.html
why, both teams could reach 50 points!
Richard | 03.31.07 - 9:29 pm |
Correction: the ruling caste has lost all illusions about a fair society and is nakedly seeking a worst possible scenario national revampment into the Third World, which we already are distinguished from only by the spread out wealth left over from having had a strong middle class a couple of generations ago.
You probably already know this, but the race to the bottom is much more comfortable in a loveswing. It saves your back and avoids painful rug burns.
What if you miss?
JeffCO, I've found that to be the case. I prefer Frys, which actually has a good service department. And usually, better prices.
Indeed. If you destroy the middle class so that there ultimately isn't anyone left who can afford your product, how are you going to survive?
Hell, even that racist asshole Henry Ford realized that.
You probably already know this, but the race to the bottom is much more comfortable in a loveswing. It saves your back and avoids painful rug burns.
for some reason, Send in the Clowns is running through my mind.
Hecate--I think if we use our water submachine guns on wingnuts, we should use a a solution of no less than a 5% concentration of HCl. Of course, we'd have to make sure it wouldn't devour our weapons of choice as well.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Wow! That's exactly what I do! So far I've used about 1/4 of it (replaced the powersupply brick for free $125 bucks)
I looked really hard and found the info about what they do if the screen goes bad. Since they would replace it I bought it. Interestingly they didn't TELL you anywhere what their policy on LCD screens were! I had to call them and directly question them. The wording on THEIR end was different than the wording I had on my end.
(Hmmm. Now that I think about it I should have had them fax me THAT wording!)
Yup, I got "aged and waged" out of my job six weeks ago after seven years of great reviews and substantial increases.
Stories like that are why I stay at my state job. I don't make as much as I would in the private sector, but at least I have some job security.
Somewhere in India there is a guy willing to be CEO for less than $10 million.
JeffCO, I've found that to be the case. I prefer Frys, which actually has a good service department. And usually, better prices. Sallyh
The complaint I've heard about them IIRC is that they do lots of mail-in rebates, but are not reliable about them.
And is anyone else losing their haloscum info?
What if you miss?
The loveswing has 360 degree flexibility, so you're unlikely to miss. And if you do, it will pivot right back to give you a second chance. It's really forgiving.
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I think the repubs want to turn america into a 3d world country, with 3d world wages, figuring they will be floating on top.
Yup. They want to turn the clock back to around 1890. The era of ruthless ultra-rich monopolists like Rockefeller and Carnegie, while most people worked as virtual slave laborers under terrible conditions.
Indeed. If you destroy the middle class so that there ultimately isn't anyone left who can afford your product, how are you going to survive?
Hell, even that racist asshole Henry Ford realized that.
Turns out the people in charge aren't capitalists. They are feudal lords...
4Legs, don't kid yourself. At least in CA, they want universities to operate on the corporate model.
Negotiations are not proceeding well. We may be striking yet.
Richard | 03.31.07 - 9:22 pm
Exactly.
What? Either (1 -- conventional wisdom) this was provocation for a war, a way of forcing the start, or (2 -- Xymphora's theory and ours) Iran did this knowing all the talk is a bluff and there won't be any consequences arrests or no. But nowhere do we see any way to intimidate and petrify the United States by something like this. Consider that the secret military Iranian hostage rescue was only abandoned for dipomacy after a spectacular and wholly unforeseen failure involving multiple vindications of Murphy's Law.
I will never, ever buy anything there again.
I think it would be worth a special trip there to tell the store manager in person. Hey, it is on my way home from work.
Stories like that are why I stay at my state job. I don't make as much as I would in the private sector, but at least I have some job security.
Only so long as the state exists.
I think the repubs want to turn america into a 3d world country, with 3d world wages, figuring they will be floating on top.
Yup. They want to turn the clock back to around 1890. The era of ruthless ultra-rich monopolists like Rockefeller and Carnegie, while most people worked as virtual slave laborers under terrible conditions.
You know what? I don't think they've thought this through. I think they're going to be astonished when everything falls apart.
i was in the post office the other day, and one of the postal workers was saying they now are running on a for profit basis. i think the lines were shorter when they weren't.
Once in a while I'll buy a DVD at CC and they almost always ask if I want some kind of extended warranty on it - scratch protection or something. I cannot believe anyone would fall for that, but I've been wrong many times.
Losing your marbles British style:
http://
commentisfree.guardian.co..._marbles_1.html
the comments are the best part. Just like heeere!!!
Only so long as the state exists.
They're replacing Delaware with Taco Bell sometime this summer. It will have drive through service, much like the current state.
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There is a story that one time Henry Ford was showing former labor leader Walter Reuther around one of his new automated assembly lines. Ford proudly showed Reuther some of the automated machines (we would not call them robots today) that were at work building cars and said, "Well Walter, I’d like to see how you get these things to pay union dues." To this, Reuther replied, "Well Henry, I’d be more interested to hear how you plan to sell ‘em cars."
But you're still a bunch of anti-American, objectively-pro-terrorist Eschaton readers.
Hey this is my chance to get a CC job!
I can go in there while the people are scared and say, "Now is the time to UNIONIZE!" What are they going to do, FIRE YOU? The already fired the other people, you will be the next if you let them!"
The era of ruthless ultra-rich monopolists like Rockefeller and Carnegie
Carnegie, he was a piece of work. WOuld be conveniently on holiday in Europe, while his hired thugs beat the shit out of his workers. Course, he built some liberries, so, all better.
4Legs, don't kid yourself. At least in CA, they want universities to operate on the corporate model.
Our university is actually going the other way.
Not that we're not trying to control costs, etc. But there's some recognition of the importance of staff- in fact, they're instituting flex-time and telecommuting campus wide.
And my uberboss is a reasonable, ethical person. He's been very good to me.
But you're still a bunch of anti-American, objectively-pro-terrorist Eschaton readers.
Why, thank you!
Indeed. If you destroy the middle class so that there ultimately isn't anyone left who can afford your product, how are you going to survive?
Turns out the people in charge aren't capitalists. They are feudal lords...
The island of Manhattan is rapidly turning into an example of this: inordinately wealthy people living in a castle (the island) surrounded by a moat. Services are transported in from the outlying regions, by those beholden to the financial castle for their wages.
was bad at CC and better at Best Buy.
I have a horror story about Best Buy.
Melissa's lap top crapped out.
Took it in under warranty, cool.
Picked it up, brought it home and it did not work. not cool!
Took it back and again the same thing!
They replaced the mother board 1st, then the CD drive and more.
The fuck that worked there, the 2nd time was an ass! He saw i was upset and said, "Sir, you seem to have a problem, what is your problem?"
I had not said a word, FUCKIND A!
I went off!
Does nobody even turn these things on when they have "fixed" it??!!!!!!!!!
JEEEESUS!
Then the next time they sent it back without the Power cord!
And none in the store.
Assholes!
Someone asked us about the class war "hyperbole" (their words) in Grant Morrison's Invisibles, in which British lords foxhunt for poor people. Our answer was that if you actually stuck to what the ruling class literally does, it would be as gruesome but you'd never finish enumerating examples.
The problem with the wingnuts' view of "free" labor markets is that the two sided are not equal. On one side are several (but not that many) powerful firms, firms which can outshore if they wish and which can move factories or close stores whenever they wish. On the other side are thousands of individual workers who usually have families and roots in a community and kids in the local school. Who do you think will have more power in negotiations?
That's why something like unions or good laws are necessary to protect the workers.
The island of Manhattan is rapidly turning into an example of this: inordinately wealthy people living in a castle (the island) surrounded by a moat. Services are transported in from the outlying regions, by those beholden to the financial castle for their wages.
You must admit, though, that the castle has outstanding bagels.
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Well, since the good folks at Circuit City find wages so offensive, I will make sure mine stay out of their stores.
Now why would a firm openly admit to doing something like this? Could it be a way around possible age discrimination suits? Many better paid workers are not only more experienced but also older.
A company would do that to impress Wall Street. Circuit City could fire all its older workers and say it was doing so for cost-cutting and competitive reasons, and, according to the Supremacists in Smith v. City of Jackson, that wouldn't necessarily be age discrimination.
Only so long as the state exists.
Well, I'm in Texas, working for a university with a fucking HUGE endowment.
I think I'm safe for a few months at least.
Unless someone nukes us to retaliate for GW.
unions or good laws are necessary to protect the workers.
What? That's crazy talk!
They're replacing Delaware with Taco Bell sometime this summer. It will have drive through service, much like the current state.
Hope they take credit cards.
You must admit, though, that the castle has outstanding bagels.
It's the moat water.
The problem with the wingnuts' view of "free" labor markets is that the two sided are not equal.
And of course the free markets have never been close to free and are not now. The fix has been in from day one - they know it and simply hope to one day be in on it.
The island of Manhattan is rapidly turning into an example of this: inordinately wealthy people living in a castle (the island) surrounded by a moat. Services are transported in from the outlying regions, by those beholden to the financial castle for their wages.
Well... with global warming, ice melting, the moat will become be quite close...like the first five floors....
I wish just once a company woud fire the CEO instead of shitting on the workers.
I know.
The island of Manhattan is rapidly turning into an example of this: inordinately wealthy people living in a castle (the island) surrounded by a moat. Services are transported in from the outlying regions, by those beholden to the financial castle for their wages.
It's rather sad.
I wish just once a company woud fire the CEO instead of shitting on the workers.
Just think of the cost savings!
The island of Manhattan is rapidly turning into an example of this: inordinately wealthy people living in a castle (the island) surrounded by a moat. Services are transported in from the outlying regions, by those beholden to the financial castle for their wages.
Medieval Europe redux
vachon : Yup, I got "aged and waged" out of my job six weeks ago after seven years of great reviews and substantial increases.
Whenever I hear the phrase "new management" I want to stick my fingers into a blender.
That was me, as well, in January.
Hope they take credit cards.
No. But they will take EasyPass. Just like the current state.
Frankly, I think replacing Delaware with a Taco Bell may not be such a bad thing.
They could replace Joe Biden with that cure dog. Or they could rename him Senator Gordita.
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I wish just once a company woud fire the CEO instead of shitting on the workers.
Yeah, me too.
And I wish just once a CEO would announce he's going to forgo his enormous bonus and take a pay cut rather than lay people off or cut wages.
Any CEO that did that would earn my business forever.
Next time I'm going to put Notatrios with a linky to my blog, too. Sheesh, I'm thick.
You must admit, though, that the castle has outstanding bagels.
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William H. Rehnquist | 03.31.07 - 9:40 pm |
Bullfrackingshit, indeed, retail bullfrackingshit gone runny. K. grew up in a Jewish spot in southeast Michigan (yes, there's more than one), with fantastic bagels, and since then bagels have only bleeding skyrocketed in popularity and availability. There is nothing you can't get elsewhere.
Manhattan Island is the biggest example yet of how rich idiots allow themselves to be sold prettily marketed crap.
Thom Hartman devoted an entire show this week to exploding the myth that democracy=capitalism by focusing on China where a capitalistic system is arising without any drive toward democracy.
just wanna drop in long enuf to say,
FUCK FLORIDA!
Medieval Europe redux
Precisely. I don't know who these people are who can afford $1.75 million one-bedroom apartments, but they're apparently out there. And a lot of them are in finance.
As more of the city's middle class is pushed out, forced to live 2 hours away in order to keep the jobs that pay them moderately well.
jdw, score?
And I wish just once a CEO would announce he's going to forgo his enormous bonus and take a pay cut rather than lay people off or cut wages.
Recently the CEO of Delta, IIRC [it was the CEO of an airline emerging from bankruptcy protection], said he would forego bonus and would step down. Money was to go instead to bonuses for ... nonunion workers only.
I defy you to find a decent bagel in Boulder. Not that people don't try, but the elevation virtually precludes thick and chewy.
Next time I'm going to put Notatrios with a linky to my blog, too. Sheesh, I'm thick.
Or, you could link to my blog again.
It would make Ntodd mad and I would enjoy it immensely.
Precisely. I don't know who these people are who can afford $1.75 million one-bedroom apartments, but they're apparently out there. And a lot of them are in finance.
Me either. That's crazy money.
I think my neighbor who hates our dogs is a terrorist!
Actually I'm sure!
And the dogs go wild as Mellisa gets home.
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Thom Hartman devoted an entire show this week to exploding the myth that democracy=capitalism by focusing on China where a capitalistic system is arising without any drive toward democracy.
People in America seem to forget that China is run by a harsh authoritarian government who kills political prisoners.
since then bagels have only bleeding skyrocketed in popularity and availability. There is nothing you can't get elsewhere.
Au contraire mon ami. The bagels in most of the rest of this fair land are like chewy Wonderbread. They are abominations. They are like Paris Hilton: white, vapid, and skanky.
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I defy you to find a decent bagel in Boulder.
OT but they are finally carrying Fat Tire Ale at my local stupormarket! Man do I miss the Colorado microbrew scene....
Somewhere in India there is a guy willing to be CEO for less than $10 million.
Doesn't matter. In theory, the CEO is a hired lackey of the board. In practice, he (and it usually is a he) is good friends with the board, and may double as chair. His being One Of Us is far more important than ability, let alone value for money.
JeffCO | 03.31.07 - 9:46 pm |
Never been to Boulder. Bagels prolly suck in the Grea Barrier Reef, too. But Manhattan does not have irreplaceably great bagelry, or anything.
Money was to go instead to bonuses for ... nonunion workers only.
Lowest rung of hell for people like that. Lowest rung.
I think my neighbor who hates our dogs is a terrorist!
Actually I'm sure!
Perhaps you should join Malkin's club and report his evil ass.
Deacon Blues, I love Fat Tire. Stocked up on some recently.
Bush to Iranians,
Free hostages or else.
Speaking of stupidity: Citibank just sent my parents new credit cards today, now I am not sure (Judge, you know anything about this: they have been dead 12 years and 10 years - are credit cards any good in the hereafter?) about his but I don't think they can use them.
But thanks for reminding me of my loss, motherfuckers.
watertiger, did you ever read The Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler? I keep seeing that moat-and-castle business from her angle and then I'm scared.
at what point will the amerikan sheeple strike back ???
when all jobs have been lost / outsourced / offshored ??
when everybody has lost their home ??
what will it take ??
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William H. Rehnquist | 03.31.07 - 9:47 pm |
They vary in quality, as anything else would too. That's not the same thing as saying if you look you can't find anything short of Manhattan.
I wish just once a company woud fire the CEO instead of shitting on the workers.
Just think of the cost savings!
They could become an anarcho-syndicalist commune and take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major....
I don't get it.
Once you have made 10 million in a few years or even one, do you ever have to work again?
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Manhattan might not have irreplaceably great bagelry but Brooklyn does.
I am going to Chicago this week. My nephew promised to take me to some place called Manny's Deli - I hear they have pretty good food including bagels. I can report back. . . .
when everybody has lost their home ??
what will it take ??
Shhh. We're watching American Idol.
/American People
Oh, for GOD'S SAKE!
What a fucking buffoon.
Ach.
Back to work. Sadly, I am looking at photos of Molly Ivins at her last public speaking appearance.
OT but they are finally carrying Fat Tire Ale at my local stupormarket! Man do I miss the Colorado microbrew scene.... Deacon Blues
I had a New Belgium Blue Paddle pilsner last night.
Here is something that I've learned. This whole shit about impressing Wall Street only works if in the end the trick makes the bottom line better. But if the trick SO outrages the public and buyers so much that they talk about it, and go somewhere else (and believe me there are plenty of other places) then the "screw the workers" trick wasn't really successful. This tactic won't work for places where WalMart is the only choice these days.
So TALKING about how bad this is, is really important. That is what the WSJ people notice.
My suggestion is to do a short post on this, why you think it is bad. We need to educate Wall Wtreet that treating workers like shit isn't a successful strategy in the mind of the public.
At least that's my thought.
And this is NOT about being a commie or a UNION, this is about what Wall Street thinks works so they reward that. If that is NOT what works, then they might suggest OTHER measures than this anti-worker method. Like CEO salary decreases. Or they might use things like the Science of Shopping (by Paco Underhill) to improve the stores (like Staples did and boosted store sales by 33 percent).
Once you have made 10 million in a few years or even one, do you ever have to work again?
Not if it's real money and not if you don't go crazy.
They vary in quality, as anything else would too. That's not the same thing as saying if you look you can't find anything short of Manhattan.
There's mawh beddah bagels in NYC than elsewhere. I don't think the state of Maryland produces a bagel anywhere close to it. Even in the many jewish burbs.
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So TALKING about how bad this is, is really important. That is what the WSJ people notice.
Hence the post above.
Oh, for GOD'S SAKE!
What a fucking buffoon.
I betcha he insisted on that.
are credit cards any good in the hereafter?
They're more convenient than Hell Money.
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I had a New Belgium Blue Paddle pilsner last night.
JeffCO
Colorado is on our short list of summer vacations this year. This conversation my push it to the top 
JeffCO | 03.31.07 - 9:49 pm |
There is a pizza place in California that was the subject of an article in Dollars and Sense. They are run by a syndicate of lifetime workers who bought into the management circle. They also hire less dedicated staff but these are welcome to join all the way provided they are willing to put up the cash and work; generally new joins enter a program where the seven thousand dollar deposit that scares away the unserious is gradually garnisheed.
kuyire, not a good or practical model for most workers.
They're more convenient than Hell Money.
animus | 03.31.07 - 9:52 pm |
Haunt your relatives to burn you more.
what will it take ?? junior birdman
You might get more people to pay attention if you didn't refer to them as sheeple and refrained from spelling America with a k.
Oh, for GOD'S SAKE!
What a fucking buffoon.
Our president is an asshole.
Forgive us world.
Oh, for GOD'S SAKE!
What a fucking buffoon.
I betcha he insisted on that.
fourlegsgood magic kittenslave | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 9:52 pm
Betcha he has Dick One on his underpants...
Laurabot: I got five on the last hole.
Reality: You haven't tee'd off yet.
Deacon Blues, I love Fat Tire. Stocked up on some recently.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sally, have you tried Mirror Pond Pale Ale? I'm obsessed with it.
SO, why don't we do the entire Eschacon II on my dead parent's credit cards? They are Citibank Diamond - 25K limit. WHat are they gonna do?
Betcha he has Dick One on his underpants...
Or maybe "mushroom cap one."
sallyh: 29-23, fla at the half.
This conversation my push it to the top Deacon Blues
Let me know if you're coming out - Ft Collins (home of New Belgium) is but an hour away. Never taken the tour.
SO, why don't we do the entire Eschacon II on my dead parent's credit cards? They are Citibank Diamond - 25K limit. WHat are they gonna do?
Sounds like a plan to me.
kuyire, not a good or practical model for most workers.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 03.31.07 - 9:53 pm |
No, and if you follow the course of most people's lives they go through several different temporary phases and places seeking their career. But once they get there it'd make a hell of a lot moire sense to have this, even if they don't directly benefit from it until they do. It would knock one thing right out and that's this "workers are expendable" garbage.
Buzz Bomb, I shall have to give it a try
are credit cards any good in the hereafter?
They're more convenient than Hell Money.
The interest rates are punishing. The late fees are worse. And Hell recently passed a Bankruptcy law that makes it hard to clear credit card debt. Remarkably, however, that law is somewhat more lenient toward debtors than the law Congress passed last year.
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Have we stopped talking about spreader bars?
*looks around nervously*
That reminds me, it's time to start drinking.
yeah, i've seen companies do this kind of thing before, eg firing its workers and rehiring them as temps. saves on health insurance.
pretzel
That happened to me. I got laid off and hired back as part time. I asked the pres of the company how many hours I could work, 20, 30? No answer. 40? he was just embarrassed.
It was just to strip me of benefits. I could work 80 hours and still be part time!
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Echidne,
No, I never read it. I don't know that I want to...
"What a fucking buffoon."
and over half the country voted for that.
i don't understand.
I refuse to read George Will's column on the ERA. It would be bad for my blood pressure and one of you would have to come and post bail for me.
Hence the post above.
Echidne of the snakes
Well of course YOU understand it, I'm suggesting this for others!
You are a super smart Goddess! Who knows stats and econ and math and people and stuff.
10-4 JeffCO! I'd also like to go up to Longmont to Left Hand Brewing
"That reminds me, it's time to start drinking."
start? what are ya, in the western time zone?
You are a super smart Goddess! Who knows stats and econ and math and people and stuff.
Awww. And chocolate. I know chocolate.
Have some.
George Will would not exist had it not been for white people's affirmative action.
"That reminds me, it's time to start drinking."
start? what are ya, in the western time zone?
jdw
He!
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Next time I'm going to put Notatrios with a linky to my blog, too. Sheesh, I'm thick.
Nonono, you put Notatrios with a linky to MY blog. Haven't you been paying attention?
You are a super smart Goddess! Who knows stats and econ and math and people and stuff.
Yes. But can she navigate a loveswing?
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Of course, Left Hand Brewing is even closer. Sadly, my favorite local, Oasis, closed up a shop a few years ago, but there are still a few microbreweries in town.
Help me!
(just pic)
William Rehnquist--our goddess is infinitely capable.
You know, I'm beginning to think this president of ours may be a bit of a poor leader.
And I wish just once a CEO would announce he's going to forgo his enormous bonus and take a pay cut rather than lay people off or cut wages.
Any CEO that did that would earn my business forever.
Confucius say , Invisible Hand have very short reach - never gets so high as executive suite.
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I must say that technology is fucking wonderful.
Our IT department has a client app that allows me to seamlessly log into my server at work.
Which saves me having to drive to my office to retrieve the file I failed to bring home with me yesterday.
Who reads George Will these days? Surely he's too pretentious and upper-crusty for the Ann Coulter/Michael Savage crowd. Does George Will really pump wingnut nads anymore?
I see the Colorado Shakespeare Festival is open June 22 through August 18
False alarm with Melissa getting home.
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I refuse to read George Will's column on the ERA
How do you feel about the designated hitter rule?
What a fucking buffoon.
watertiger
Complete with LauraBot in the background with that 1,000 mile stare and crooked wave. Lemme guess, he's going to ride his bikey after the fun golf cart ride?
William Rehnquist--our goddess is infinitely capable.
Could she make a loveswing with so many straps and spreader bars that she herself could not swing in it?
Could she? Could she?
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You don't mean that Corporate America has a problem with old workers? Surely not!
National Employment Lawyers Association, http://www.nela.org/home.cfm
But Manhattan does not have irreplaceably great bagelry, or anything.
Really? There's nothing irreplaceably great in Manhattan?
"That reminds me, it's time to start drinking."
start? what are ya, in the western time zone?
jdw
Yes. And it's nearly 7:00 so I'm running a bit late.
You all do realize that "aged and waged" is what newspaper management has been doing to gut editorial staffs for the past 10 years, right?
We could staff a half dozen really, really good news orgs with the reporters and editors who can no longer get jobs because we cost too much (and often know too much about workers' rights and labor law). But who would pay for even one such startup?
On that note, I'd like to apologize in advance for the likely posting in a thread here later this evening of a much-too-long item which you should definitely read, although not too fast.
Help me!
(just pic)
watertiger
"Billy says shadrack blue queen of enlund susy and tigger for the flame."
I want to give a speech at Eschacon II.
I'm thinking about topic and titles.
What do you think.
"Messin' with the Mouse
- How some DFH bloggers made Disney blink.
Fighting Wingnut Radio, without using phasers
I am Spocko.
Of course it would be great to have the other folks there to have a great discussion. "How we did it!"
(No wingnuts allowed)
Of course it always rains on the CSF. That's my memory.
Ideas are bulletproof.
Really? There's nothing irreplaceably great in Manhattan?
What of Atlas Juggs?
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Hey we're finally nearing that magic 100K hit mark. Help a brutha out and visit. Not visiting would make the Chocolate Jesus weep.
Speaking of chocolate, I got me a white chocolate Lindt easter bunny and I'm going to bite his head off for my dessert this evening.
What a fucking buffoon.
watertiger
Complete with LauraBot in the background with that 1,000 mile stare and crooked wave. Lemme guess, he's going to ride his bikey after the fun golf cart ride?
Many times in history kings have been decoration, distractions. Since 1688 in England, 1789 in France, WWI for the rest of Europe, they ahve all been just figureheads.
Our first King, George III. 7 years King, and already doomed to irrelevance from inbreeding. We do things quick in Murika.
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I see the Colorado Shakespeare Festival is open June 22 through August 18
Almost always good - I've seen some amazing productions there. They usually do a couple in traditional style and stage one in some wacky updated format. I see they're doing Midsummer Night's Dream - I saw that 10 years ago or so and they set it in the 1950s, complete with motorcycles.
Buzz Bomb | 03.31.07 - 10:01 pm |
We had asked this earlier about Broder, but it's equally true of Will and plenty more: has anyone ever read these imbiciles? They are pedants with no research and nothing to say about anything. All their predictions, which are founded on fantasies, fail, and their whole job is apologetics. Has anyone ever made a decision based in any part on what George F Will had to say about it?
How do you feel about the designated hitter rule?
It is Pure Evil.
Working for essential living costs: FOR CHUMPS.
If you can't steal that amount, Darwin kicks in.
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Something just struck me.
I have not had the TV on all day.
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Nonono, you put Notatrios with a linky to MY blog.
You have a blog?
I am going to terrorize everyone with my camera at Eschacon II.
"Messin' with the Mouse
- How some DFH bloggers made Disney blink.
Fighting Wingnut Radio, without using phasers
I am Spocko.
How about "Amok Time"?
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What a fucking buffoon.
watertiger
It's weird how I can loathe the guy so much, and yet see pictures like that and feel acutely embarrassed for him.
He really doesn't know how much of a fucking tool he is, does he?
Well, I gotta hit the hay. If anybody cares, there's still a discussion going on about the dude arguing that he doesn't have to pay alimony since his ex became a man after the divorce.
l8rh9rs.
I won't show up on a camera, I'm in that phase shift place between Universes.
Oh, for GOD'S SAKE!
What a fucking buffoon.
watertiger | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 9:51 pm | #
Did ya see miss xanax pickles waving from behind in her cart? That's one hell of a goofy gold/titty buttoned coat.
"Does George Will really pump wingnut nads anymore?"
george will pumps wingnut nads happily, and in a cute bow tie.
Chocolate Jesus penis, anyone?
I refuse to read George Will's column on the ERA. It would be bad for my blood pressure and one of you would have to come and post bail for me.
I have cash, and I know people who can bond you out. Still, I don't recommend reading George Will's anything.
And tomorrow is opening day!
I have cash, and I also have LASAGNA!
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Starting now on TCM: "Birdman of Alcatraz."
I do NOT want to get sucked into it, so I'm switching it off...
He really doesn't know how much of a fucking tool he is, does he?
No. This has been another in our series of simple answers to simple questions.
"Did ya see miss xanax pickles waving from behind in her cart? That's one hell of a goofy gold/titty buttoned coat."
don't be fucking with pickles. i tell ya, under the polyester pantsuits, there's one wild fucking woman.
Spocko: I won't show up on a camera, I'm in that phase shift place between Universes.
You fool NO ONE!
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Chocolate Jesus penis, anyone?
Buzz Bomb
Is it safe? I'm allergic to nuts.
It's weird how I can loathe the guy so much, and yet see pictures like that and feel acutely embarrassed for him.
He really doesn't know how much of a fucking tool he is, does he?
It's the only thing about preznitting he likes- getting to act like a big shot.
And the Rockies are home against the Mets first week of July. I love LoDo and Coors Field. And Breckenridge Brewery is just across Blake St....
"What a fucking buffoon."
and over half the country voted for that.
i don't understand.
jdw
Watched an old Rock Hudson/ Doris day thing last night. "Lover Come Back"
Both were ad execs, and Hudson had the whole country clamoring for "VIP!"
a non-existant product.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
Someone tell George Will that i haven't followed a damn thing about baseball since the first time the millionaires went on strike to complain that the billionaires weren't paying them enough. And that i'm not the only one like that.
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I am Spocko.
Will the rest of us have to wear nametags that say "I Am Not Spocko?"
And tomorrow is opening day!
And it was written that Mr. Met will lead ye team of Reyes and Beltran and Delgado to ye Promised Land. And all shall be Wright.
Amen.
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Fighting Wingnut Radio, without using phasers
I am Spocko.
Da da DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAAAH da da DAAAAAAH!
Seven eighth's moon...I saw you standing alone...
I always liked "A Murkan Werewolve in London"
Didn't someone perish under John Landis' direction?
Wiley!
He can't get enuff attention.
He want's to be in your face 24/7.
Petted him and said, "Enuff, go away!"
He sliked away and jumped on a chair and let out a big Sigh.
Love him.
Someone tell George Will that i haven't followed a damn thing about baseball since the first time the millionaires went on strike to complain that the billionaires weren't paying them enough. And that i'm not the only one like that.
I don't follow Major League Baseball either, I'm a Cubs fan.
Food, coming up!
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Didn't someone perish under John Landis' direction?
David Naughton's career.
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Seven eighth's moon...I saw you standing alone...
T. Mouse, you know, it's a marvelous night for a moondance - with the stars up above in your eyes.
:{)}
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"Da da DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAAAH da da DAAAAAAH!"
Sounded a lil raspy on that last DAAAAAAH.
Coors Field.
Pujols' most wettestet dream.
I still would be interested in knowing what that big fucking thing on his back was in the debates.
"Let me finish!"
"Uh, nobody's saying anything, you dolt."
This kind of thing wouldn't happen if the government provided a small guaranteed income. Add a worker ownership interest and wages can be used to cut costs without people losing their jobs.
I don't follow Major League Baseball either, I'm a Cubs fan.
*snort*
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David Naughton's career.
I drink Dr. Pepper don't you know..
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Coors Field.
Pujols' most wettestet dream.
The place even made Jeremy Burnitz a star.
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Didn't someone perish under John Landis' direction?
TinyPorcelainMouse
Vic Marrow +
Twilight Zone movie.
Pujols' most wettestet dream.
TinyPorcelainMouse
D Lee is going to have a monster season this year. Just saying.
I don't follow Major League Baseball either, I'm a Cubs fan.
Unrepentant Fenian
Reds and Bengals.
(Blush)
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Could she make a loveswing with so many straps and spreader bars that she herself could not swing in it?
Could she? Could she?
This is a koan. I love koans. The answer is a swift kick in the balls.
And the Rockies are home against the Mets first week of July. I love LoDo and Coors Field. And Breckenridge Brewery is just across Blake St.... Deacon Blues
Sadly, they will start sucking, oh, in about a week. Still fun though. Also close to Coors Field is the Wynkoop Brewery, formerly owned and operated by now-mayor John Hickenlooper. Good food and great beer!
Coors Field.
Pujols' most wettestet dream.
The place even made Jeremy Burnitz a star.
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William H. Rehnquist
Extended Dante Bichette's career by several years too.
Flint, still Pink Floyd | 03.31.07 - 10:13 pm |
That was that freak accident with the helicopter?
I still would be interested in knowing what that big fucking thing on his back was in the debates.
A baby bjorn with Harriet Miers in it, whispering answers to him.
"Vic Marrow +
Twilight Zone movie."
Decapitated by the helicopter right?
Vic Marrow +
Twilight Zone movie
The decap...right.
I love koans. The answer is a swift kick in the balls.
I believe you mean a swfit kick in the koanes.
Jeffraham Prestonian
That video was GREAT! A lot of work went into that.
This is a koan. I love koans. The answer is a swift kick in the balls.
Ahhhh. But your kick will need to be pinpoint accurate to connect with them.
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Saw Jimmie H
at Mile High.
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D Lee is going to have a monster season this year. Just saying.
Unrepentant Fenian
Don't forget the trick wrist. That's good for at least 6-8 weeks.
"The decap...right.
TinyPorcelainMouse |"
Kind of Ironic, he died in fake Combat.
And I mean no disrespect, always liked the guy when he was in "Combat".
I believe you mean a swfit kick in the koanes.
I think you mean konads.
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"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."
i know, i know. it's just so fucking sad.
the wife and i went door to door for kerry in ohio, which given our introverted personalities, was probably the hardest thing we've ever done. it was just so easy for us to see how evil, how fucking craven, how stupid, how vapid chimpco was.
and you'd talk with people...some were as horrified as us, but not so much to overcome their horror at helping...and others, with their suv's and concrete mother marys in their front yards.... and they just loved the bastard.
I began to wonder...am i nuts? Why aren't people as alarmed as me? I still don't know.
and over half the country voted for that
Nah.. Do the math.
And it was written that Mr. Met will lead ye team of Reyes and Beltran and Delgado to ye Promised Land. And all shall be Wright.
Please, please, please, please, please let the starting rotation not suck.
And I mean no disrespect, always liked the guy when he was in "Combat
Didn't his daughter have an abortion in "Fast Times..."
And I mean no disrespect, always liked the guy when he was in "Combat".
EkCenTriK |
It was always the rookies and replacements that died on that show.
Somewhat resembling real combat.
I'm sure many of you have seen this already, but can there be anything cuter than two otters floating on their backs holding hands?
I love koans. The answer is a swift kick in the balls.
Ah, that one only works on solipsism. "The student came up to the Master, and said 'I have realized that All there is is my imagination! My mind is creating All That Is!' The Master then gave the student a thunder kick to the groin, dropping him to the ground. 'What a strange imagination you have, Lord of the Universe' the Master said."
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MOMMEY IS HOME!
Later.
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Jim Nance just said Atlanta has Final Four Fever. I don't believe it.
Sadly, they will start sucking, oh, in about a week. Still fun though. Also close to Coors Field is the Wynkoop Brewery, formerly owned and operated by now-mayor John Hickenlooper. Good food and great beer!
JeffCO
Ayup..... I loves me a town that elects a brewer mayor.
Saw Jimmie H at Mile High.
Both gone. Mile High choked on Elway's vomit.
Ayup..... I loves me a town that elects a brewer mayor.
People wanted him to run for governor, but he declined. There's also a push for him to run for Allard's seat in '08, but it's probably Mark Udall's for the taking. I'd love for him to go up against Salazar though - mealy mouthed Joementum-lite.
Jim Nance just said Atlanta has Final Four Fever. I don't believe it.
Unrepentant Fenian
Well that the hell else is he got to talk about?
Hey, Spocko, love the gravatar!
And now the ultimate Trek fight scene - with "THE" music!
Please, please, please, please, please let the starting rotation not suck.
And the Lord Sayeth: Glavine shalt win 17, Maine shalt pitch past 6 regularly, El Duque shall not break, Ollie shall not walk the league, and the child Pelrefy shall lead them....until Pedro comes back to pitch like his old badass self. So let it be written, so let it be done.
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"I don't follow Major League Baseball either, I'm a Cubs fan.
Unrepentant Fenian "
we're indians fans by geographic default. i'm shocked to hear that a lot of people predict they'll win the central...i don't see it.
later bats..
From Frank Rich,
Since the Edwards storm broke, there have been unintended consequences for other campaigns, too. In an accident of timing, Judith Nathan picked the same day as the Edwards news conference to explain that she was only now, after six years in public life, correcting the inaccurate published record of the number of her pre-Giuliani marriages (two, not one). Juxtaposed with the Edwards headlines, the dishonesty unmasked by this confession looked even worse than it might have otherwise. In a less vulgar vein, the first major Democratic campaign event after the Edwards announcement, a forum on health care, prompted more than the usual sniping about Mr. Obama’s substance when his policy prescription lacked the specifics in Mr. Edwards’s plan.
The power of Elizabeth Edwards’s persona is such that the husband at her side will be challenged to measure up to her, too, perhaps even more so than his opponents. No one may be labeling him “the Breck girl” anymore (the subject of another popular Web video parodying his coiffure maintenance), but should his campaign prove blow-dried when he moves beyond health care, he’ll pay his own hefty political price for the inauthenticity.
Whatever Mr. Edwards’s flaws as a candidate turn out to be, he is not guilty of the most persistent charge leveled since his wife’s diagnosis. As Ms. Couric phrased it, “Even those who may be very empathetic to what you all are facing might question your ability to run the country at the same time you’re dealing with a major health crisis in your family.”
Would it be better if he instead ran the country at the same time he was clearing brush on a ranch? Polio informed rather than crippled the leadership of F.D.R.; Lincoln endured the sickness and death of a beloved 11-year-old son during the Civil War. In the wake of our congenitally insulated incumbent, who has given our troops neither proper armor nor medical care and tried to hide their coffins off camera, surely it can only be a blessing to have a president, whether Mr. Edwards or someone else, who knows intimately what it means to cope daily with the threat of mortality. It’s hard to imagine such a president smiting stem-cell research or skipping the funerals of the fallen.
Indeed, of all the reasons to applaud Elizabeth Edwards’s decision to stay in politics, the most important may be her insistence, by her very action, that we not compartmentalize the harsh reality of death and the imperatives of public policy, both at home and at war. Let the real conversation begin.
Is Florida this good or is UCLA just teh suck?
My PBS is showing Judgment At Nuremberg, a movie I'd always disliked for its goody-two-shoes treatment of the Americans daring to judge Germans under US occupation.
And showing file footage of death camp bodies. Grrr at such coarse manipulation
Of course the supporting performances of Judy Garland and Marlene Dietrich are always welcome.
Montgomery Clift was encouraged to overact, and for once it works. It's so sad that his reconstructed post-crash face is so suited to a castrated retard
Here's the real bit of genius casting: Maxmilion Schell is the lawyer defending the Nazis. He looks just like Superman anyway, and his hair is sculpted to fit, right down to spitcurl. Very funny
What's up with Tancredo anyway? Guy's disgusting. Colo used to be a pretty live-and-let-live kind of place, but in the last 10 years or so it seems to have gotten fundy, racist, and homophobic.
"I'd love for him to go up against Salazar though - mealy mouthed Joementum-lite."
and i gave the fucker money. i could have taken my wife to dinner with it. fucking waste of skin.
Jim Nance just said Atlanta has Final Four Fever
Atlanta has. not. been. this. febrile, since the glory days of Sherman.
in the last 10 years or so it seems to have gotten fundy, racist, and homophobic.
In the consptheor community this thought would not be accepted without notice. Colorado is home to Lockheed and the Air Force Academy as well as several bases, a truly insane airport, and an inordinate amount of high wierdness.
Is Florida this good or is UCLA just teh suck?
Unrepentant Fenian
Five starters back from the nat'l champ team and little Billy O'Donovan's massive ego.
shhhyeah they're good.
!!!! - MISSING WHITE WOMAN - !!!!
There, fixed the labor crisis.
and i gave the fucker money. i could have taken my wife to dinner with it. fucking waste of skin. jdw
I got a bite-me email from him over Alito. He's dead to me. I told him I would work vigorously for any primary opponent he might have next time. Both the farther left and right candidates lost in the primaries and we ended up with a choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledumber. At least we avoided dumber.
Personally, I'm still mad at Ben Turncoat Campbell, who never did return all the money he collected before jumping ship. Rat bastardism at its highest.
!!!! - MISSING WHITE WOMAN - !!!!
There, fixed the labor crisis.
bo
I bet I would have enjoyed reading that article if I could have seen it underneath all the floating popups. Sheesh, Newsday!
Chuy, I hate eating.
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Floor people are basically fungible and add little to the bottom line. CEOs are absolutely vital and good ones are hard to find. Deal with it, Duncan.
"Five starters back from the nat'l champ team and little Billy O'Donovan's massive ego."
i'm just hoping to god osu can make a showing of it, because two major humiliations in a year is too much to take. fucking sec would recruit retards if they could help them win.
And now the ultimate Trek fight scene - with "THE" music!
dave™© | Homepage | 03.31.07 - 10:22 pm | #
Spock's double was way too roamy through the hips.
American Hawk
ZOT!
Ok, baseball, basketball, and trolls, no balls. Time to be gone again.
Later
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WOW The post I just wrote about what was Bush's back during the debate disappeared!
All I would need to detect that was a spectrum analyzer. The problem would be that the people who know about those would also know what it was for. The Secret Service wouldn't let me close enough to use it. They would block it's use and say it was "for national security" (their excuse for everything). They would say it was to be used to find out their codes and RFs, but I could have dealt with that. What I needed with a major news organization to back that, but they were all too afraid. Plus the WH could spin the use of a Spectrum analyser as being overly Tinfoil hat like (especially if they used a different method to transmit the audio . The magnetic induction method also has a limited range so I'd have to be fairly close.
You know if there was an group with some real guts we could have revealed to the world what a puppet he was and is, but as my friend pointed out. To get close enough would have been impossible.
The "it's for National Security" ruse works every time.
Deacon Blues,
I've lived in CO for about 11 years, from what I've seen/heard the past 15-20 or so years has brought in much weirdness from both CA and TX
fucking sec recruits retards when they help them win.
Fixed that.
Chuy, I hate eating.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
I am with you on that right now, dear friend. I can't eat anything. Everything tastes wrong and I am filled after a few bites. Even my coffee tastes wrong. I am pretty much drinking water and snacking on a few bits. . . .
What is it that CEOs actually do that makes them worth anything? Isn't there a crop of stories about CEOs asleep at the wheel that shows up with the regularity of Jesus on a Reader's Digest cover?
What's up with Tancredo anyway? Guy's disgusting. Colo used to be a pretty live-and-let-live kind of place, but in the last 10 years or so it seems to have gotten fundy, racist, and homophobic. Deacon Blues
Lots of Texans and Californians moved here? People of reason have been disgusted since Amendment 2 passed despite being far behind in the polls, suggesting that people were lying to the pollsters about their level of bigotry.
On the bright side, despite a fairly flawed opponent, whackjob Marilyn Musgrave did far worse than expected - her seat may be in play next time.
Been like this since I started Lizard Spit. Better than the alternative tho.
Floor people are basically fungible and add little to the bottom line. CEOs are absolutely vital and good ones are hard to find.
If you replace "floor people" with soldiers and "CEOs" with "war bloggers," you'd pretty much have captured American Hawks' view of the Iraq fiasco.
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much weirdness from both CA and TX -lil red ridin in tha hood
Heh - I owe you a microbrew of your choice.
ATTENTION
Two otters have been filmed in a zoo, floating around side by side, asleep, and holding hands.
My son was born in Colo, but Mrs. Blues and I are both L.A. natives, and we moved back to L.A. in Y2K. We have a lot of fond memories of Colo. We lived there for 12 years, from the bottom of the last oil bust in '88 thru to the boom of the 90s
I'm not Duncan. Yet, anyway. Perhaps in the next life, though I plan to come back as fourlegs' kitty. Now that is one cushy life.
Hey look, a Bruin ran fast and scored!
I'm not Duncan. Yet, anyway. Perhaps in the next life, though I plan to come back as fourlegs' kitty. Now that is one cushy life.
Kewl. You could pee on the furniture when you got mad.
Sometimes I do that anyway. Just for fun.
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Another thing about the movie Judgment at Nuremburg: The language issues are even kookier than Star Trek, where at least they had the "universal translator" device. Right
In JaN, everyone in court speaks English, but they all have earphones too, for the translations. They keep putting on and taking off the earphones at arbitrary times.
The movie even draws attention to the problem, Max Schell at one point telling a witness "You may take off the earphones," as if they'll be speaking in German now. Then they speak English
That is terribly cute what we just linked up there.
JeffCO,
well only if you insist. Tho you are free to hate me since I arrived here from Texas back in day. (I hated living there and this was where I excaped to)
Kewl. You could pee on the furniture when you got mad.
Sometimes I do that anyway. Just for fun.
Pine smelling air freshener?
The flaw in trollie's logic is of course that CEO compensation appears to have very little to do with their worth or performance. Another example of the free market not really being free. Boards stick it to their shareholders and to their employees to reward incompetent toady CEOs with obscene amounts of money stolen directly from pensions and so forth. Theirs is a very short-sighted perspective that is unrelated to the long term profitability of the company.
Shorter - trollie is full of shit.
The movie even draws attention to the problem, Max Schell at one point telling a witness "You may take off the earphones," as if they'll be speaking in German now. Then they speak English
Heh.
JaN is an illustration of a major problem in art and especially holoflicks, represented most concisely by of all people Max Planck: just because God appears to you doesn't mean anyone else will see. The full emotional and mythological power of the holocaust looms over like one of Clark's monoliths and some artists see it not so much as inspiration as an excuse to be amazingly lazy. Whose melon will escape a frying pan so black?
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - An American entrepreneur who introduced foreign men to "young, sexy, exotic and beautiful Latin Women" via the Internet was killed in the western city of Cali by gunmen on a motorcycle, police said Saturday.
Robert Marshall Vignola, 50, of Hamden, Conn., says on the Web site that he founded the Cali, Colombia-based company in 1999. The site says the company "has assisted hundreds of clients in the search for the Latin Woman of their dreams."http://www.latinwomenconnection.com
The flaw in trollie's logic is of course that CEO compensation appears to have very little to do with their worth or performance. Another example of the free market not really being free.
There is no market for CEO's per se in any case. Each industry has its own requirements, there is very little information and a lot of coalition building. All these make market-driven compensation levels very unlikely. And as JeffCo said, in many cases a firm's profitability has gone down while the CEO compensation has gone up.
JeffCO, well only if you insist. Tho you are free to hate me since I arrived here from Texas back in day
That was you?!? I'm not native either- been here for all but a couple years since 91. And I don't really hate the Texans, though driving near them in winter can be a challenge.
Pine smelling air freshener?
I squirt those Massengill bottles that Judy left on the couch. Never works. The couch smells like pine for like a day. Then it just smells like a vinegary homeless man.
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The National Anthem....
Marvin.
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"...let them apply for the same jobs at lower wages"
Welcome to Dick Cheney's America.
The headhunting industry is a vigorous and near perfect free market.
Well look who is footloose and fancy free.
" As of Friday, former Texas Attorney General Dan Morales officially is a free man.
The U.S. Bureau of Prisons on Friday confirmed it discharged Morales from a federal halfway house in San Antonio, where Morales had served a few months of the four-year prison sentence for a federal case related to the state's record settlement with tobacco companies. "
Yes I know whose party he was affiliated with. A bad guy is still a bad guy regardless.
Oh link to the article
http://www.mysanantonio.com/
news...ee.33caae3.html
Not all that important though.
There is no market for CEO's per se in any case. Each industry has its own requirements, there is very little information and a lot of coalition building. All these make market-driven compensation levels very unlikely. And as JeffCo said, in many cases a firm's profitability has gone down while the CEO compensation has gone up
Don't forget sweetheart boards who get nifty kickbacks!
In neo-classical economic terms, I believe the problem is high barriers to entry and market stickiness (which the Massengill products also don't really help clear up).
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The headhunting industry is a vigorous and near perfect free market.
jack, not everything on Gilligan's Island was real!
The headhunting industry is a vigorous and near perfect free market.
IF we talk about real head hunting it might be but for the one problem that one of the basic assumptions of markets is voluntary participation, and the victims didn't volunteer.
IF we talk about the other kind of headhunting we have enormous information problems. These make well-functioning markets much less likely.
Two otters have been filmed in a zoo, floating around side by side, asleep, and holding hands.
kuyire
My pancreas just tried to strangle me.
Two otters have been filmed in a zoo, floating around side by side, asleep, and holding hands.
The only thing that would make it better was if they were gay.
And as JeffCo said, in many cases a firm's profitability has gone down while the CEO compensation has gone up
It's amazing, as with so many things that the moneyed class says and does, that they don't see this pattern. Southwest Airlines has been profitable for some 30 straight quarters and their CEO takes less than $500K in bonuses.
JR - Try this. Should clear your system.
well, that was unexpected.
SIL came over with the baby. Announced that he's leaving for Betty Ford on Monday. It's 30 days. I guess he's at least trying. Mlle and his mother are taking him.
The National Anthem....
Marvin.
Thank you.
Deacon B--score?
Baby staying with you, Sallyh?
Why does the FDA refuse to name the company that imported the tainted wheat from China?
Auntie...'twas beautiful. Gracias.
Thanks to those who read my lengthy movie notices on Judgment at Nuremburg
I'm still soliciting opinions, should anyone scroll up this busy thread
I'd last seen the movie as a teen, the scene best remembered being Dietrich sitting by the ringing phone at the end, ignoring the call she knows is Tracy's
Potential romance gone, and damn does she look POed
68-52 3:30 left.
Max P, I'm guessing the Gators are beating the crap out of us?
Sallyh - I hope it helps.
Why does the FDA refuse to name the company that imported the tainted wheat from China?
I was wondering about that in a post earlier in the week. It is odd.
Is someone around to put a thread up? Should I put an open one up?
JeffCO,
I actually grew up driving in the Minnesota winters so I can navigate the CO roads fairly well..
You can spot the CA/TX drivers all around you by the way they drive..speeding and acting like the dicks they are behind the wheel of a 2 ton vehicle on ice covered roads...
receipe for disaster
Auntie GWPDA--no, tonight Mlle is headed for a meeting, and Daddy and Baby are going to Other Grandma's.
sallyh, i hope that it works for him. my ex-h spent about sixty days there a couple of years ago. don't know if it has ultimately helped him or not, but as far as i know he's been doing his meetings and whatnot. my daughter sometimes talks to him on the phone and says he sometimes sounds slurred and drunk. she and i went out there for what they call family week--but the dies were cast, the divorce inevitable.
i'm a free woman.
Max P, I'm guessing the Gators are beating the crap out of us?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
70-60 1:52 left.
Nuncamas--granted, Mlle did go out. But what it did do was drive home the fact that she shouldn't. I think overall it will help.
It's an ongoing thing, and I don't think if one goes out, they need to count his or her life as over. It's just admit it, get up, and start again.
I'm from the shit happens school.
Why does the FDA refuse to name the company that imported the tainted wheat from China?
Because Daddy doesn't have trillions of dollars lying about to pay off Lil' George's loans.
JeffCO--can't hurt. He's pretty desperate to keep his family together.
I ran into a beltway bandit type last year who was hyping a plan for a Circuit City "educational" summer camp for kids.
The scuzzy part was to bill it as educational to qualify for academic subsidies but not hire any actual teachers, just use the salespeople they have. It was pretty much just a bait-and-switch for a babysitting service with computer games, with taxpayers as the con victims.
Maybe they'll rip each other off all the way into bankruptcy.
You can spot the CA/TX drivers all around you by the way they drive..speeding and acting like the dicks they are behind the wheel of a 2 ton vehicle on ice covered roads...
When I-10 between San Antonio and Houston freezes over in January, and it ALWAYS does, you can get out the popcorn and watch the SUV and humongo trucks flipping over.
Makes me nostalgic for the Bolsheviks. The knew how to take care of capitalist scumbags like the upper management at Circuit City. They must be trying to beat Walmart in the warm and fuzzy retailer catagory.
Fuck Philip J Schooner and the other assholes running CC and shop at Costco. At least they treat their employees like human beings.
and I apologize to all the responsible drivers from CA/TX, but there are a number of your brothers and sisters who simply cannot drive and should not drive in the snow.
they are a hazzard to everyone on the street, both pedestrian and in vehicles
Hey, Lil Red, I heard something thru the grapevine about you and Albuq....
lil red--there are some CA drivers who shouldn't be allowed out in dry, warm, clear weather, which is typically what we've got.
No one here can drive in precipitation.
Circuit City's service, selection of goods has been getting crappier and crappier over the years. Like the old saying goes a dead fish rots from the head down. I am no longer shopping at this worker hating place.
Being a UF alumnus, I'm all Go Gators in theory, complete with orange and blue corduroy baseball cap.
And the bright Gator-strewn underwear, once described by a gay friend as "charming out of town"
But I don't follow sports, only hearing results months after the fact
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar...
aaahhh word travels quickly
Yes, I am in the midst of packing up my worldly belongings from the beautiful state of CO and heading down to the Land Of Enchantment..
I really am looking forward to it but I really have to say, moving sucks ass (imho)
receipe for disaster -lil red
Yup - I'm from PA and grew up in ice and snow as well. I admit to a perverse pleasure occasionally driving slowly along in a storm and passing the bloated carcasses of SUVs littering the sides of the road. I also wish I could cure people of their "left lane is my personal road" dementia. Despite it now being illegal, people seem to have no trouble blocking traffic as they pass sign after sign reminding them to keep right except to pass.
Excuse me, I have to go yell at some kids playing ball on my lawn.
Grinstein, who has led the United States' No. 3 airline since January 2004, said he wants Delta instead to invest what he would have gotten in post-bankruptcy bonuses, to be used for scholarships and emergency hardship assistance for Delta employees, families and retirees. Under a post-bankruptcy compensation plan unveiled Monday, Grinstein could have been expected to net about $10 million, including such bonuses, over about three years.
Delta hopes to exit bankruptcy in May. Grinstein, 74, who plans to retire this summer, said it wouldn't be right to take money intended as an incentive for future executive performance.
"I'm leaving, so it doesn't fit me," he said in an interview. Besides, he said, "Corporate pay packages have gotten out of control. It has become a salary derby out there."
http://www.clarionledger.com/app.../703210344/
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I put more sheets up.
I sometimes appear here interested in talking movies or music, not necessarily finding a receptive crowd should there be some new threat to BushCo in hearings on C-SPAN
Can anyone recommend a good site for such movies or music, relatively troll-free, good-natured?
If you dislike my comments, here's an opportunity to get rid of me. But give good advice or I might be back
Experienced?? What the hell does that do for me at Circuit City? I normally would agree that this is a problem, but I don't like pushy sales people. Maybe things have changed, but I hate Circuit City. Last time I went there (years ago) it was all about high pressure sales and getting me to buy stuff that was way out of my price range, and on credit, no less. Thanks, but no thanks.
Even worse, several times they used a sexist sales technique based upon the idea that I should buy something that my wife wouldn't want me to buy. That was crap. I hate Circuit City. Let them fire their "experienced" sales people, and hope that their newbies aren't so pushy. I might want some information, but I certainly don't want a sales pitch. And it seemed like that's all they were really selling.
Thanks for swinging by, folks. We are closer to cracking the magical 100K mark than we've ever been, thanks to your generous links. It's a labor of love, really.
Can we now refer to the phenomenon of getting fired for being one of the best at your job as being "Gonzo'ed", in honor of the Attorney General?
WTF? I'm pretty disturbed to see a link to rense.com from Eschaton that is not in snark or being critical, but apparently as a legitimate source as opposed to it being one of the top conspiracy theory sites on the web as well as strongly anti-Semitic.
What's up with that, Echidne?
Hopefully those fired people will find jobs anywhere but at CC. And hopefully the folks left behind will see the writing on the wall and ditch CC too. Wouldn't it be nice if American workers could show some solidarity with their fellow workers and avoid places like CC? What's more likely is what happened in So Cal with the grocery stores workers who got locked out by an illegal cartel among the grocery stores. The news media and ordinary people on the street were most outraged that there were lowly grocery store workers making a living wage of $15/hour AND getting decent health insurance.
Thank god that red menace to capitalism was killed.
"Indeed. If you destroy the middle class so that there ultimately isn't anyone left who can afford your product, how are you going to survive?"
Evil, sociopathic corporations - creating a Soylent Green America since 1981
It's the way the world is going. Australian ATC managers decided to get rid of their most experienced (ie best paid) air traffic controllers a few years ago, reasoning that people just out of training school could do just as well for half the pay. Oh, and the new recruits don't get a good superannuation package either. And they have to work longer hours. But honestly, safety is really, really our first priority.
I know I will never shop at Circuit City again.
That said, you have to give them points for honesty. "We need to raise our margins...blah..blah...blah. So we are hiring kids from MickeyDees as teens know more high tech shit then you..."
And they are losing 3,000 workers at $4.00 change for 2080 hours per year plus benefits plus overtime or roughly $33,000,000. What this tells me is that if they cannot make margin at $12/hour to the employees, then something is wrong. In Colorado (probably California too) you cannot raise a family on that. It highlights that perhaps wages may be too high on the management end. Without doing the research for this comment, I know that executives never made what they are making now, particularly if it is in proportion to what hourly workers are making. That skews margins ridiculously. But even if you trim management salaries a little (or a lot) all the way down the line, where do you make up $33 mill? One other non-populist part of the equation is Americans want more toys and at cheap prices. Screwing other Americans so we can get our fix is a part of the equation. Makes you feel all warm and cuddly inside to know you are (I am) part of a complex problem that is based in greed.
Living wages would be nice, less money to executives would be nicer and do we really need a 60" TV? or a home theater system? or a house that is thousands of square feet for a family of 4.5 people? I see over 3000 square feet for a family of 4 and wonder who they are hiring to clean.
rojo
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