This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...
Graham |
12.08.07 - 2:40 pm | #
John Bolton compares US intelligence agencies to Nazis.
P O'Neill |
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12.08.07 - 2:40 pm | #
I realized a couple years ago, while listening to Siouxsie & the Banshees play in a sports bar in the Virgin Islands, that much of the music that survived from the late 80s receives far more radio and public play today than it did back then.
Joe |
12.08.07 - 2:42 pm | #
The number of different radio formats that "Burning Down the House" is acceptable to is remarkable ("modern," "AOR", "Classic", and what have you). There was a piece in the WaPo on this a couple-few years back. Just sayin'.
ed |
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12.08.07 - 2:44 pm | #
I don't know if I'm just old and cranky and spoiled by Ipods and satellite radio, but it sure as hell seems like commercial radio plays more commercials than they did in my time.
Jim, Collieresque |
12.08.07 - 2:45 pm | #
Don't be trashin Siouxsie, she was my first crush.
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 2:45 pm | #
the station probably wouldn't play music by a band that sounded just like the Talking Heads if they were a new band
I think it's more that radio wouldn't give airplay to a new band as innovative
as the Talking Heads, not necessarily one that sounded like them. In fact that would probably be more likely.
Scott Agro |
12.08.07 - 2:47 pm | #
I was actually surprised when rock stations played Talking Heads back in the late 70s-early 80s. They had the dreaded "New Wave" label, which usually translated into zero radio play.
Remember, the Ramones, who also came out of the CBGB's scene at around the same time, never got their records played on the radio...which is one reason I find it startling whenever I hear one of their songs used in a TV commercial.
I think that's around the time I started loathing commercial radio.
monchie b. monchum |
12.08.07 - 2:49 pm | #
I'm an unapologetic Classic Rocker who plays and sings Sinatra/Tony Bennett standards for my living.
I don't listen to much jazz, but I play it for money. But I love the music I imprinted on my tender brain between the ages of 10 and 25.
[grumpy curmudgeon mode] You kids think you know music...
I start humming and singing every time I see a post in here signed by Kid Charlemagne or Dr. Wu...
Daddy-O |
12.08.07 - 2:50 pm | #
I am not sure they would have when they were the Talking Heads the first time around.
When she's on fieyar..when she's a building-gah, it's not love.... not love....when when she's a building... which is on fiyar!
And I got two little birds that go tweet tweet tweet tweet.
Listening to the radio is Headonistic.
atablarasa |
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12.08.07 - 2:53 pm | #
Commercial radio really took a major dive after the 80's. IMO most of the best bands of the 90's where completely missed here in the US.
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 2:54 pm | #
In teh Philly area you mean?
WMMR? WYSP?
They were playing the whole "Classic Rock" stuff when I was in my teens. Then they decided U2 was okay. And maybe Dire Straits.
A revolution it wasn't.
sdf (Stu), ASR #776,683 |
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12.08.07 - 2:54 pm | #
So this summer we bought a new furnace for several thousand dollars, and last week we found that the fancy dancy thermostat was acting funny. So I called the guy and told him I thought the thermostat wasn't working right. He comes out and tells me he thinks it's the furnace and fiddles with it for a while. It's still not working right so today another guy comes out, fiddles with it for a while and tells me he's pretty sure it's the thermostat. But he doesn't carry a fancy dancy thermostat on his truck so the other guy will have to come by on Monday to replace it.
Oh, and IMHO those Talking Head albums have really held up over the years. I listen to them, as well as that Brian Eno-David Byrne collaboration, "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts," almost as much as I did circa 1980.
monchie b. monchum |
12.08.07 - 2:56 pm | #
Halfdan, you need both the thermostat guy and the furnance guy there at the same time. Don't let them leave until it is working correctly.
mer |
12.08.07 - 2:57 pm | #
X really holds up well too.
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 2:58 pm | #
the web & ipod's have killed commercial radio. local bands record their shit. pop on there myspace page & whala.on ipods everywhere.
Commercial radio (ie corporate radio) killed commercial radio. They buy playlists from the corp whores who determine which music people should listen to in between hawking their latest bullshit. Intersperse some idiot DJ who think they are the show. Fuck 'em. I turned 'em all off and only listen to local college radio any more.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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12.08.07 - 2:58 pm | #
But he doesn't carry a fancy dancy thermostat on his truck so the other guy will have to come by on Monday to replace it.
My exer-cycle was skipping as I pedaled, very annoying for this fat man. I called a repair man and he said "I know what the problem is, but I'll have to come and look at it to make sure what part I need, then I'll come back with the part and fix it. And it's $75 per housecall, plus parts and labor."
Me: "Since you think you know what the problem is, could you bring the part(s) you think you'll need on that first visit?"
Actually, Spoon had a very popular song -- the kids loved it -- recently that sounds just like Talking Heads.
Of course, it was an anomaly, but still...
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 2:58 pm | #
Oh and I have absolutely no clue who the new rock people are. We accidentally watched this horrid "Movies Rock" special last night waiting for our regular show not to come on and it was embarrassing all around. Everyone sounded really *bad*. Fergie and Queen Latifah and Will I Am (?) and some dude who like to sprinted his way through Gene Kelly's "Singing in the Rain" routine. Next time, please just show the original, okay?
Halfdan |
12.08.07 - 2:59 pm | #
As far as I know Philly is the nearest thing to heaven as far as broadcast radio is concerned. DC was once, twenty to thirty years ago, but is now a total wasteland.
I got XM a couple of years ago, and it's my lifeline, but I don't know how likely it is that the music I listen to will survive for long, particularly once the merger happens and the cost-cutting begins.
I was horrified to look at Arbitron ratings for satellite radio and see that the top-ranking stations are the ones that duplicate the formats already prevalent on broadcast radio.
SteveLG |
12.08.07 - 2:59 pm | #
iron&wine is a good example of this.
& i think the decemberist's are talking heads 2.0.
The dude who is Iron & Wine lives about 15 minutes from me. He was interviewed on KUT-Austin yesterday morning. Seems like a nice guy. Used to teach cinematography at (I think) the University of Florida before he was able to get into music full time. Good music in the folk tradition.
I was really lucky in the seventies with the local station RFM, Radio Free Madison. It was like a contest amoung the DJ's to see who could play new music that would become hot. Pretty much anything could be heard at any time.
dmark |
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12.08.07 - 3:00 pm | #
Remember, the Ramones, who also came out of the CBGB's scene at around the same time, never got their records played on the radio...which is one reason I find it startling whenever I hear one of their songs used in a TV commercial.
The rock stations I heard in the 70s played Talking Heads and Ramones, alongside Foreigner and what have you....
The Residents and Throbbing Gristle, not so much...
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.08.07 - 3:00 pm | #
Why stay in college? Why go to night school? Will it all be different this time?
MikeJ |
12.08.07 - 3:01 pm | #
You can hear the entire playlist of most commercial "classic rock" stations in about three hours, if you can stand the hour of commercials.
Tralfaz |
12.08.07 - 3:01 pm | #
Remain in Light remains their greatest album
HeavyJ |
12.08.07 - 3:01 pm | #
I forget what it's called, but it's got a bass riff that sounds just like something Tina Weymouth would have played.
A real earworm, as the kids say....
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:01 pm | #
I rather like Pandora.com has anyone else used it?
therealhellkitty |
12.08.07 - 3:02 pm | #
I've found streaming college stations on the internets to be much more enjoyable than listening to the radio.
mer |
12.08.07 - 3:03 pm | #
i don't think classic rock stations play spoon. the new stuff they play is all pretty crappy like nickelback and bad led zeppelin covers
Atrios |
12.08.07 - 3:03 pm | #
The facts we hate, you'll never hear us
I hear the radio's finally gonna play "new music"
You know, the "British Invasion"
But what about the Minutemen, Flesheaters, D.O.A.,
Big Boys and the Black Flag
We're the last American band to get played on the radio
Please bring the Flag, please bring the Flag
Glitter-disco-synthesizer-night-school
All this noble savage drum drum drum
Astronauts go back in time to hang out with the ape people
It's about time, it's about space
It's about some people in a strange place
Woody Guthrie sang about B-E-E-T-S not B-E-A-T-S
I must not think bad thoughts...
-x
SteveLG |
12.08.07 - 3:03 pm | #
Some of the new garage rock bands I like:
The Hives
The Strokes
The White Stripes
The Vines
The Donnas
The Gore Gore Girls
The Kaiser Chiefs
The Grip Weeds
Remain in Light remains their greatest album
HeavyJ | 12.08.07 - 3:01 pm | #
I'll have you no my first ex-wife did the cover.
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:05 pm | #
It still shocks me that MBV/Kevin Shields sound was completely missed here in the states. So much great stuff filtered out... for your protection.
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 3:05 pm | #
Have you "know" my first wife did the cover.
Not "no."
I regret the error...
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:05 pm | #
I've found streaming college stations on the internets to be much more enjoyable than listening to the radio.
mer | 12.08.07 - 3:03 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
MP3 blogs are ideal, I think, especially for rare soul 45s that it'd cost you $800 to buy on eBay.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.08.07 - 3:05 pm | #
It's ok mer--I've dealt with these people before. They eventually get their act together--but it's just so frustrating!
Halfdan |
12.08.07 - 3:06 pm | #
You find better music in TV commercials and TV shows than you do on the radio. Some bands who I've gotten hip to through commercials include The Crystal Method, Luscious Jackson and Moby. Radio seems to be the way corporate junk pop is doled out for making money, good stuff is more likely exposed by individuals working in production houses who stick in good stuff.
By the way, anyone watch Life on NBC? I think that show has the best music of any TV series ever aired. Wish I could find a comprehensive list of songs it uses.
puppethead |
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12.08.07 - 3:06 pm | #
Oh and Curve. The band that Garbage ripped off back when..
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 3:06 pm | #
I am so lucky to live in close proximity to KEXP and can listen in my car.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:07 pm | #
I think for christmas I am getting one of those cool digitizers that allows you to hook up a turntable or tape deck to the puter and record to your hard drive in digital format.
Soon I will be listening to Take it to the Stage on CD, bitches.
Jennifer |
12.08.07 - 3:07 pm | #
WMMR? WYSP?
IMHO, WMMR and WYSP started sucking circa 1973 or so. In fact, I wrote an article for the Temple News on that very theme around 1974 or 1975.
When I'm driving in the Philly area, the only stations I listen to are WXPN and WRTI, both noncommercial public radio, and KYW for traffic reports. It's much the same here in the NYC area, where I mostly listen to public stations WBGO, WNYC, and WFUV, all non-commercial public stations, plus WQXR, the NY Times-owned commercial classical station (which I suspect won't exist 10 years from now), and WINS and WCBS-AM for traffic.
monchie b. monchum |
12.08.07 - 3:07 pm | #
"Iran drops the dollar. “Iran, the second-biggest producer of crude oil in the Middle East, has ‘completely halted‘ all oil transactions in dollars, the state-run ISNA news agency said.” Oil Minister Gholam Hossein Nozari said, “The dollar is an unreliable currency, considering its devaluation and the oil exporters’ losses.” 1:56 pm "
puppethead - HBO is great at using really excellent music - both new and old - in their series.
Jennifer |
12.08.07 - 3:08 pm | #
Actually, my daughters tell me that a lot of decent music gets used as background in TV shows like... uh, those popular shows I've never seen.
SteveLG |
12.08.07 - 3:08 pm | #
You find better music in TV commercials and TV shows
All of my favorite songs end up there eventually.
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 3:08 pm | #
ipod commercials have tipped me off to some stuff that I really like.
Jennifer |
12.08.07 - 3:09 pm | #
I must not think bad thoughts...
-x
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I love "Under the Big Black Sun," but they sure spent a lot of time bitching about not getting their "due"....
Maybe if they'd cared less about getting airplay, they wouldn't have gone down the toilet so quickly.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.08.07 - 3:09 pm | #
some of the bands my 73 year old spouse has turned me on to:
Detroit Grand Poohbahs Chrystal Method The Chemical Brothers Death in Vegas Weedeater
I don't think this is gonna turn out too good.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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12.08.07 - 3:09 pm | #
Twas only recently that I realized the Decemberists are from Portland. Duh. Behind the times, I am.
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:09 pm | #
To whoever mentioned it above:
Yes, pandora is way cool.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:09 pm | #
Yes, pandora is way cool.
Danny Guam
Has that been released yet?
SteveLG |
12.08.07 - 3:10 pm | #
Band of Horses in a Ford commercial?
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #
I need to plug The Current, Minnesota Public Radio's anti-corporate music (not classical). It's an awesome radio experience.
puppethead |
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12.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #
burn me ... then rake me to the river
Rudys Limp-On |
12.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #
SHORT THIS STOCK:
"The TwoDaLoo is perhaps the first (and perhaps the last) toilet designed for two people to use at the same time. The company's research found a basis beyond the potential water savings of one flush for two: toilet as relationship therapy.
"When you're most relaxed, that's the best time for you to communicate with your partner, discuss your concerns and learn from them to grow as a couple," says Romeo Mendoza, president of WiseRep.com.
Right about now, you're probably checking...to make sure this isn't an April Fool's joke...
"The TwoDaLoo is currently in the prototype stage. We're marketing it to retailers..."
Which is to say, no one actually has one of these yet. The loo for two, should it ever actually become available, would be about $1,400."
baba durag - outhoused |
12.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #
That radio station probably wouldn't have played the Talking Heads back in the day, at least not until they sold a million copies first.
With media consolidation, it's harder for groups like that to get on the air than it used to be, but that doesn't mean that it was that easy way back when (cf. Payola).
ploeg |
12.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #
X is still kicks ass in concert if you get the chance. They're playing in Ventura, CA on New Years BTW
cahuenga |
12.08.07 - 3:12 pm | #
Most interesting radio biz blog right now is Jerry Del Colliano's Inside Music Media.
Lots and lots of folks losing their jobs these days in that industry.
Garuda |
12.08.07 - 3:12 pm | #
with ... without ... and who'll deny it's what the fighting's all about
Rudys Limp-On |
12.08.07 - 3:12 pm | #
SteveLG,
You may be talking about something else.
Pandora.com is what I am talking about.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:12 pm | #
"Religion O They Will Know We Are Christians By…
Posted by Dan Savage on December 8 at 9:26 AM
…the 14 year-old boys we put in diapers.
A skit at a local Christian youth group meeting had teenage boys taking off some of their clothes, wearing adult diapers, bibs and bonnets and being spoon-fed by girls as they sat in their laps. [...]
Mr. Wandrisco and a national spokesman for Young Life say the skits are all in fun and meant to be used as “icebreakers” at the youth group meetings. “The skits are designed for one reason and one reason only—for kids to have fun. It’s not a dirty joke. The skits are to break down the walls and let them have fun,” Mr. Wandrisco said….[...]
But still. Could you imagine the uproar from Christian groups if, say, a gay youth group did something similar? Or a gay-straight student alliance?
A spokesman for the Christian youth group says they’ve done this for years—they also do a “skit” where girls eat chocolate pudding out of adult diapers—and that Ms. Metz’ son “had fun” in that diaper. I’ll bet he did—and odds are good that he’ll be having fun in diapers for the rest of his life."
stock up on batteries
fuck
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:13 pm | #
Whadda ya mean, the Trollop Trolley ?
plantsman, bulbalicious |
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12.08.07 - 3:13 pm | #
Which is to say, no one actually has one of these yet. The loo for two, should it ever actually become available, would be about $1,400."
baba durag - outhoused
It's been done: the Love Toilet.
Jennifer |
12.08.07 - 3:13 pm | #
Pandora.com is what I am talking about.
Danny Guam
Just a small attempt at humor.
SteveLG |
12.08.07 - 3:13 pm | #
Iran drops the dollar...
U.S. drops the bomb.
I don't like this movie.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:14 pm | #
guy that founded Yale ... spice trader ... gee I wonder how many hookers and slaves he imported. Seems to have brought in alot of money and interest
Rudys Limp-On |
12.08.07 - 3:15 pm | #
"Iran drops the dollar. “
Buy a nice bicycle while you still can afford it. Also a lock, so that it does not ride away on it's own.
Doug |
12.08.07 - 3:15 pm | #
Band of Horses in a Ford commercial?
Danny Guam | 12.08.07 - 3:11 pm | #
My magazine just ran a rave review of those guys.
So I looked em up on YouTube, and found a Letterman clip I had actually seen but had forgotten.
I had the same reaction I had the first time -- they're like Television, except without the modal stuff and the genius.
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:15 pm | #
ErinPDX
Did you see the Great Orange Satan has a post about you Cranky Oregonians?
Ah yes, the smell of reality. You should see the movie "No Country for Old Men", there is a line in the movie that captures the condition of civil society in America exactly, "you can't stop what's coming".
Welcome to the One Party State |
12.08.07 - 3:16 pm | #
I was wondering if you would like them steve.
It sounds like you do. Sort of.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:17 pm | #
Kevin Drum draws upon some of the books that have been written these past couple of years to examine what we know about the torture of Abu Zubaydah. He quotes Spencer Ackerman's review of James Risen's "State of War:"
"After the 2002 capture of Abu Zubaydah, a bin Laden deputy, failed to yield much information due to his drowsiness from medical treatment, Bush allegedly told Tenet, "Who authorized putting him on pain medication?"
My cat is an Earthling!
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
12.08.07 - 3:19 pm | #
I would like to suggest that everyone put Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine" at the top of your reading list if you haven't done so already.
SteveLG |
12.08.07 - 3:19 pm | #
Afternoon, kids.
steve,
we haven't left yet.
Molly Ivors |
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12.08.07 - 3:20 pm | #
The best part is the letters The Oregonian gets, mostly fundies falling all over themselves to out-hate one another.
plantsman, bulbalicious |
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12.08.07 - 3:20 pm | #
Iran drops the dollar...
It's going to be interesting what the UAE does, as in depegging its currency to the dollar. They have had high inflation due to that policy. Also China and the yuan.
Won't be pretty if all those dollars start coming home. We depend on the dollar being the "word currency".
Chris/tx |
12.08.07 - 3:20 pm | #
guy that founded Yale ... spice trader ... gee I wonder how many hookers and slaves he imported. Seems to have brought in alot of money and interest
"Yankee Trader"...the original archetype for Star Trek: The Next Generation's Ferengi.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:20 pm | #
""Iran drops the dollar. “
Ho. Lee. Shit.
I don't think this is gonna turn out too good."
--left field, 99.9% dirty hippie
Isn't this one reason we invaded Iraq, because they threatened to stop dealing in dollars? Cheney just couldn't bomb Iran soon enough, that nasty NIE got in his way.
mer |
12.08.07 - 3:21 pm | #
"The Talking Heads came on, and it occurred to me that the station probably wouldn't play music by a band that sounded just like the Talking Heads if they were a new band."
college radio would play them, tho, until they became successful, at which time college radio would turn their nose up at them for 'selling out' and being 'too commercial'.
jdw |
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12.08.07 - 3:21 pm | #
I wish I could afford to sign up for the local CSA but I can't manage the $360 front. Oh well, so much for living on a fixed income.
therealhellkitty |
12.08.07 - 3:21 pm | #
Did you see the Great Orange Satan has a post about you Cranky Oregonians?
Thanks, had not seen that yet.
Yep, you should have seen our cranky asses by the hundreds at the summer town hall meetings. I was meek compared to most. The lack of sunlight in the last week doesn't help. Finally, light today. shit!
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:21 pm | #
I don't know what station Atrios gets in his neck of the forest, but here in Chicago, I hear songs on the radio that sound like the talking heads (not a great example, but Apples in Stereo come to mind) as well as The Stooges (The Hives, etc) and about a thousand indie bands that sound like the Velvet Underground.
Now, I'm not saying they are as good as the former, but at the moment, you can hear music on the radio that sounds like just about every era of rock, including the late 70's and early 80's, when apparently, Atrios had his heyday.
I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the music "industry" will collapse during my lifetime. They are doing those of us who love music absolutely no good.
PopeRatzo |
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12.08.07 - 3:22 pm | #
If they sounded just like the talking heads they wouldn't be an original band now would they?
mof |
12.08.07 - 3:22 pm | #
"Stop Making Sense" and "Let It Be" are my two favorite rock movies.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
12.08.07 - 3:22 pm | #
I've long thought that "classic rock" stations give classic rock a bad name. For the love of christ who the hell needs to hear that much Rush (the crappy band, not the crappy bigot)? And why the hell anyone ever having anything to do with Genesis gets airplay is beyond my powers of comprehension.
brooks |
12.08.07 - 3:23 pm | #
Actually, my daughters tell me that a lot of decent music gets used as background in TV shows like... uh, those popular shows I've never seen.
SteveLG
The best part is the letters The Oregonian gets, mostly fundies falling all over themselves to out-hate one another.
The RG down here in Duckville also has incessant letter-to-the-editor crap from the boonies demanding that we burn Darwin at the stake, and then other letters from the boonies telling the previous group that they're fuckheads.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:23 pm | #
While Donahue was berating "The Golden Compass", moves to further destroy Christianity are afoot.
And those Pudding Pop commercials take on a new spiritual meaning.
EkCenTriK |
12.08.07 - 3:23 pm | #
we invaded Iraq, because they threatened to stop dealing in dollars?
Just watch them make some jimmyied up reason for war, though we'll all know the real reason, presidential dementia!
Doug |
12.08.07 - 3:23 pm | #
rock is dead.
long live rock.
watertiger |
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12.08.07 - 3:23 pm | #
It sounds like you do. Sort of.
Danny Guam | 12.08.07 - 3:17 pm | #
I don't really get them, actually.
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:23 pm | #
I've never watched it, but The O.C. uses a lot of indie stuff.
Molly Ivors |
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12.08.07 - 3:24 pm | #
In regard to the previous thread, if you want the call for impeachment to become overwhelming, we're going to have to wait until Mrs Clinton becomes president.
PopeRatzo |
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12.08.07 - 3:24 pm | #
It's been done: the Love Toilet.
Jennifer
I guess the classics never die.
So if it's impolite to discuss, um, toilet events at the dinner table, is it impolite to discuss dinner events on the toilet-built-for-two?
baba durag - outhoused |
12.08.07 - 3:24 pm | #
Ever heard a song called Blues Walk by Lou Donaldson?
mof |
12.08.07 - 3:24 pm | #
incessant letter-to-the-editor crap from the boonies demanding that we burn Darwin at the stake
All while holding their hands out for more of our tax dollars so they can maintain their lifestyle. Blue counties, like blue states, subsidize them.
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:25 pm | #
While Donahue was berating "The Golden Compass", moves to further destroy Christianity are afoot.
Kathy Graham: "The Catholic League is one fat tool with an internet connection!"
Jim, Collieresque |
12.08.07 - 3:25 pm | #
I don't really get them, actually.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 3:23 pm
Soft, hard. Soft hard.
That's what I can figure.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:25 pm | #
Is it possible to get Sirius satellite radio in your bedroom?
mof |
12.08.07 - 3:25 pm | #
Isn't this one reason we invaded Iraq, because they threatened to stop dealing in dollars? Cheney just couldn't bomb Iran soon enough, that nasty NIE got in his way.
mer | 12.08.07 - 3:21 pm | #
There were theories around at the time that the attack on Iraq was about dollars.
I know that many here foresaw Iran and other oil exporters switching from dollars to euros, and the ensuing mad rush to not be the last country holding dollars. Then the race to third world status for the U.S.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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12.08.07 - 3:26 pm | #
While Donahue was berating "The Golden Compass", moves to further destroy Christianity are afoot.
How much you wanna bet the studio is paying the fat fuck to denounce the movie, so that it will inspire people to find out what the fat fuck doesn't want them to see?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:26 pm | #
Were the Brooke Adams and Richard Gere characters in "Days of Heaven" grifters?
Dale Cooper |
12.08.07 - 3:26 pm | #
This is also true with statewide nonprofits. Portland/Eugene dollars provide the vast majority of support for programs outside the metro areas, yet folks bitch about sending their money to "weird" Portland.
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:26 pm | #
Fortunately, in NY during the 80's we had WDRE which played all the new stuff - pretty cool radio station that was. 'NEW FM also played the ramones when it was in it's last throes as a progressive rock station. Wanna know what killed rock n roll radio? The "Classic Rock" format - same four Led Zep tunes followed by three or four of the same Rolling Stones tunes followed by Lynard Skynard's "Free Bird" until you were ready to puke - that's what killed rock n roll radio. New bands not getting airplay? Hell, even Springsteen can't get his new stuff played on the "classic crap" stations.
GENE214 |
12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
Like my friend's band, who shares my drummer. Perhaps I'll get a song on TV...
whiskey girl
Drummers like it when the girls want to share.
Drummer |
12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
Then the race to third world status for the U.S.
Which the parasitic plutocrats could not more desire.
They want us to look like Honduras, minus the banana plantations.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
spot on brooks. Listening to the absolutely horrible classic rock stations here in Kansas is very annoying. How many times can one listen to "Feels Like the First Time" or "Takin' Care of Business"? These stations seem to have around 40 songs in rotation and nothing out of the crappy loop gets played. The sad part is there's so much good classic rock out there and 99% of it will never be heard on the radio.
wichita kid |
12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
Soft, hard. Soft hard.
That's what I can figure.
Danny Guam | 12.08.07 - 3:25 pm | #
I guess, but they're very underwhelming players.
I mean, I'm not a worshipper at the altar of Musicianship, but you have to at least play better than I do -- and I suck -- or I find it hard to get interested.
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
Oh and Curve. The band that Garbage ripped off back when..
cahuenga | 12.08.07 - 3:06 pm | #
I've known Butch Vig and Duke Erickson for over twenty years and they'll be the first to tell you who their influences are, but I can also say that they have been doing their own take on music since day one.
dmark |
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12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
There aren't any new bands today like the Talking Heads.
I never thought I would look back to my high school grunge period with fondness, but that is the last time I can remember new songs being played on the radio I liked.
Karatist Preacher |
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12.08.07 - 3:28 pm | #
they're like Television, except without the modal stuff and the genius.
Ahh, one of the great rock bands of all time...and they got practically no radio play, probably due again to that dreaded "New Wave" label that corporate radio loathed. "Marquee Moon," their masterpiece, got no play at all on Philly's WMMR or WYSP, though I think "Foxhole" from "Adventure," their second and last album, might've gotten 2 or 3 spins on WMMR.
I never got to see them back then, but a few years ago they reformed with the original lineup and would do a few shows a year. So about two years ago, after waiting 25+ years, I finally got to see Television live here in NYC.
Oh, and here's a funny thing I discovered -- I think one of the band members is a neighbor of mine
monchie b. monchum |
12.08.07 - 3:28 pm | #
This is also true with statewide nonprofits. Portland/Eugene dollars provide the vast majority of support for programs outside the metro areas, yet folks bitch about sending their money to "weird" Portland.
ErinPDX
Sounds like the national scene in miniature. Like that woman who doesn't want her tax dollars paying for kids' breakfast. Well, I don't want mine subsidizing ADM.
Jim, Collieresque |
12.08.07 - 3:28 pm | #
we listen to the lefty talk station, metal station and college jazz station.
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:28 pm | #
I mean, I'm not a worshipper at the altar of Musicianship, but you have to at least play better than I do -- and I suck -- or I find it hard to get interested.
steve simels
Were the Brooke Adams and Richard Gere characters in "Days of Heaven" grifters?
Hmmmm....They definitely took advantage of the fact that the dying Sam Shepherd character had fallen in love with Brooke Adams by plotting for her to marry him and then get left with the money. But I don't think they were grifters per se. They were migrant laborers who exploited the guy. But the Adams character wound up falling in love with him.
I always wonder about the last scene of that movie. Are we to think that Brooke Adams becomes a prostitute?
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:29 pm | #
spot on brooks. Listening to the absolutely horrible classic rock stations here in Kansas is very annoying. How many times can one listen to "Feels Like the First Time" or "Takin' Care of Business"?
Carry on, my wayward son.
(Oddly enough, my Christmas lights are not hanging themselves as I sit here).
Jim, Collieresque |
12.08.07 - 3:29 pm | #
I've found streaming college stations on the internets to be much more enjoyable than listening to the radio.
BBC Radio 6 has some kickass shows.
JeffCO |
12.08.07 - 3:30 pm | #
I've known Butch Vig and Duke Erickson for over twenty years and they'll be the first to tell you who their influences are, but I can also say that they have been doing their own take on music since day one.
dmark | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 3:27 pm | #
I loved one of their earlier bands, Firetown.
Damn shame their first album never made it to CD -- it fatured one of the great anthemic electric twelve-string powerpop songs, "Carry the Torch."
steve simels |
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12.08.07 - 3:30 pm | #
yet folks bitch about sending their money to "weird" Portland.
Especially the Hawthorne neighborhood, which is tantamount to sending money to [shudder] the Socialist Enclave of Eugene.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:30 pm | #
Fortunately, in NY during the 80's we had WDRE which played all the new stuff
Holy crap. Cannot remember what it was called before "DRE." What was it?
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:30 pm | #
Most of the world's currencies are for the people of that country. The dollar has been the currency not for just Americans, but hundreds of millions of people around the world.
When those people switch to Euro's (and many already have), those dollars start "coming home" which will be highly inflationary.
Chris/tx |
12.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #
What has killed music on radio is that all these stations are owned by Clear Channel or some other group and their play list is set by someone in an office ten states over who doesn't give a damn about music.
dmark |
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12.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #
steve,
Vig's first band (I think) was Spooner, produced by Murphy/Klebe/Murphy circa 1981.
Molly Ivors |
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12.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #
Is it possible to get Sirius satellite radio in your bedroom?
mof
There is a wide array of in-home and portable satellite radio receivers. Just check with your favorite electronics store.
Heck, Woot is selling a portable XM radio today for $60.
puppethead |
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12.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #
BBC Radio 6 has some kickass shows.
YES!
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #
Holy crap. Cannot remember what it was called before "DRE." What was it?
What has killed music on radio is that all these stations are owned by Clear Channel or some other group and their play list is set by someone in an office ten states over who doesn't give a damn about music.
steve,
I don't listen as close as you do I guess. I am impressed by overall feeling or emotion.
And the voice. Voices do get my attention. Band of Horses had a good singer and they make a good sound.
Beyond that..I'll leave it to the critics.
Besides, all good rock comes for the Velvet Underground. I seem to hear them in most stuff I like.
Danny Guam |
12.08.07 - 3:32 pm | #
When those people switch to Euro's (and many already have), those dollars start "coming home" which will be highly inflationary.
The good news is we'll all soon be millionaires, though it will take several of those million dollar bills to buy a loaf of bread.
Doug |
12.08.07 - 3:32 pm | #
My awareness of which I owe entirely to ril!
JeffCO |
12.08.07 - 3:33 pm | #
Wait minute... THIS guy used to be a rock group?? Cool!!
In late 2003, Byrne released a book with a companion DVD called Envisioning Emotional Epistemological Information.
The work included artwork composed entirely in Microsoft PowerPoint. It includes one image that depicts, according to Byrne, "Dan Rather's profile. Expanded to the nth degree. Taken to infinity. Overlaid on the back of Patrick Stewart's head."
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.08.07 - 3:33 pm | #
We're, uh, here. Not sure when we're leaving. That's all.
i take it dinner's out.
watertiger |
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12.08.07 - 3:33 pm | #
simels,
I loved -- LOVED -- the Dylan thing. I would go back just for that last shot of Cate Blanchett.
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:33 pm | #
"I mean, I'm not a worshipper at the altar of Musicianship, but you have to at least play better than I do -- and I suck -- or I find it hard to get interested.
steve simels"
that's why i could never get into punk.
takes more then a mohawk and safety pins to be a musician.
jdw |
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12.08.07 - 3:33 pm | #
My awareness of which I owe entirely to ril!
JeffCO
And my awareness of which I owe entirely to Smitty!
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:34 pm | #
The good news is we'll all soon be millionaires, though it will take several of those million dollar bills to buy a loaf of bread.
(Pictures of men with wheelbarrows after WWII in Italy flashes across mind)
Chris/tx |
12.08.07 - 3:34 pm | #
that's why i could never get into punk.
takes more then a mohawk and safety pins to be a musician.
jdw | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 3:33 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Returning to this work in the theatre, in late 2005 Byrne and Fatboy Slim began work on Here Lies Love, a disco opera or song cycle about the life of Imelda Marcos, the controversial former First Lady of the Philippines. Some music from this piece was debuted at Carnegie Hall on February 3rd, 2007.
and they say theatre is dead.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.08.07 - 3:34 pm | #
Since your home trapped under a cat, how about some pictures of teh atri-kitties?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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12.08.07 - 3:35 pm | #
I loved -- LOVED -- the Dylan thing. I would go back just for that last shot of Cate Blanchett.
res ipsa loquitur |
Me too, res! Not so much the last shot, but everything--I want to go back for everything.
whiskey girl |
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12.08.07 - 3:35 pm | #
WLIR: YES. Holy cow. Where is my brain?
Worst rock radio ever: WBAB on Lawn Guyland. Here is the playlist:
Flirting with Disaster -- Molly Hatchet
Roadhouse Blues -- The Doors
Bad Company -- (Don't know band, but awful)
Something by The Who
(x) infinity
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:35 pm | #
Atrios, how bad is this iran currency deal?
ErinPDX |
12.08.07 - 3:35 pm | #
steve,
Vig's first band (I think) was Spooner, produced by Murphy/Klebe/Murphy circa 1981.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 3:31 pm | #
Molly, you are correct. Spooner featured Butch and Duke, but a different line-up than Firetown. And I think that was Rick Murphy involved. He also DJ,ed for RFM
dmark |
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12.08.07 - 3:35 pm | #
In the 309th episode of The Simpsons, "Dude, Where's My Ranch?", first-aired April 27, 2003, Byrne makes an appearance as himself. In the episode, he is a researcher of indigenous folk music of Springfield who co-sings and produces Homer Simpson's hate-song of Ned Flanders, and at the end of the episode also produces The Moe Szyslak Connection. In the episode, Byrne also claims to be a former wrestler, called "El Diablo.
(Pictures of men with wheelbarrows after WWII in Italy flashes across mind)
Much, MUCH more disturbing:
Picturs of people with wheelbarrows full of Reichsmarks going shopping for bread in the Ruhr, circa 1922.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:35 pm | #
Why does "classic rock" insist on repeatedly playing "You better, you bet" by The Who? It's one of the worst songs that band ever recorded.
GENE214 |
12.08.07 - 3:37 pm | #
dmark,
Actually, it's Jeff & John Murphy, and Gary Klebe, of the v. respectable power pop band Shoes.
Jeff Murphy went on to do quite a bit of producing.
Molly Ivors |
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12.08.07 - 3:37 pm | #
Atrios, how bad is this iran currency deal?
Uh-oh. What Iran currency deal?
res ipsa loquitur |
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12.08.07 - 3:37 pm | #
Picturs of people with wheelbarrows full of Reichsmarks going shopping for bread in the Ruhr, circa 1922.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
But in our case we let the butchers of humanity into power first, and they're the ones causing the destruction of our economy and society.
puppethead |
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12.08.07 - 3:37 pm | #
Dana Peroxide on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. Again. And bubbily defending her boss' ball-faced lying on Iran.
JeffCO |
12.08.07 - 3:37 pm | #
Well, the Brits managed somehow to survive the Pound ceasing to be the universal currency, just as the French managed to survive English becomeing the lingua franca.
The Bush Crime Family, of course, will shudder as the dollar is replaced by the Euro.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
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12.08.07 - 3:38 pm | #
Picturs of people with wheelbarrows full of Reichsmarks going shopping for bread in the Ruhr, circa 1922.
I guess that's one way to get the government to work on economic stimulus.
Doug |
12.08.07 - 3:38 pm | #
We don't need wheelbarrows full of currency.
We have debit cards.
Molly Ivors |
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12.08.07 - 3:38 pm | #
Have to go christmas shopping.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
I want! I want! I want an allosaurus, a parasarolophous, a little long neck, the red puppet dinosaur...
You can set your watch to the playlists
in the DC area.
apeman |
12.08.07 - 3:39 pm | #
The Bush Crime Family, of course, will shudder as the dollar is replaced by the Euro.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Since my pay is direct deposited, I wonder if I can take it out in Euros. Just a thought
GENE214 |
12.08.07 - 3:40 pm | #
Band of Horses wouldn't exist without My Morning Jacket.
oh and WDRE sucked. and I worked there.
Bunnypants |
12.08.07 - 3:40 pm | #
We don't need wheelbarrows full of currency.
We have debit cards.
Now I'm picturing a ragged yuppy walking to the grocery store with a wheelbarrow overflowing with credit and debit cards.
Doug |
12.08.07 - 3:40 pm | #
what a nice little mix of disasters. the mortgage crisis, home prices falling, oil rising, food rising, phenomenal war-induced debt, dollars coming home. I will probably be living under a bridge by this time next year.
I gave up on classic rock radio years ago. I can only listen to Stairway to Freebird so many times.
MajorKong |
12.08.07 - 3:43 pm | #
As a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press. Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies.
rip |
12.08.07 - 3:51 pm | #
I loved one of their earlier bands, Firetown.
Damn shame their first album never made it to CD -- it fatured one of the great anthemic electric twelve-string powerpop songs, "Carry the Torch."
Nail. Head. Bang. Awesome tune, from one of the very last albums I ever bought on vinyl.
Spike |
12.08.07 - 4:05 pm | #
Corp has been the death of radio as someone who listened to KSAN/KZAP I like listening to what's new but if your not a friend of Clear Channel one there no air time.
jo6pac
jo6pac |
12.08.07 - 4:26 pm | #
If you don't live near Seattle, you can check out what a radio station should sound like by going to kexp.org.
uptown |
12.08.07 - 5:16 pm | #
Talking Heads. Wow, that's going WAY back. But in the end, everything turns into soft favorites.
Chris Wren |
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12.08.07 - 5:17 pm | #
capitalism is a form of sorcery.the fact that anyone is still listening to corporate radio is a demonstration of its magical powers.
you're right. by the way, the name of the band is "talking heads."
eve |
12.08.07 - 5:28 pm | #
I listen to the radio literally all the time, but it's primarily talk radio.
I used to listen to a local talk show (Steve Dahl), but a few years ago I started listening to NPR almost exclusively. It's so damn interesting, and between hearing about a variety of subjects (current events, cultural stories, art reviews, music, etc) and the fact that they carry BBC news, it's become my primary source of entertainment.
Aside from computer games, that is, but the magic is I can play a game and listen to the radio at the same time.
JSG |
12.08.07 - 5:47 pm | #
I doubt too a radio station would play a new band that sounded like the Talking Heads, probably because the Talking Heads really sucked. They were inventive artists, but their music really sucked.
Fred F. |
12.08.07 - 7:01 pm | #
First, it is Talking Heads. Second, even a tone deaf narc would recognize the greatness of TH.
Cableguy |
12.08.07 - 7:28 pm | #
I first heard the Talking Heads on a lonely midnight road about 1980, rolling across Wyoming bound for the Owhyee country in eastern Idaho. Startled the hell out me until I realized that the music wasn't coming from one of the local country-trash stations out of Rock Springs but rather from the U. of W. student station out of Laramie. Hooked me on the Talking Heads for years. ... and, on the contrary, Fred F, the T.H. was inventive AND entertaining... but to each his own.
montanaheadcold |
12.08.07 - 7:36 pm | #
he Talking Heads really sucked. They were inventive artists, but their music really sucked.
You need to give your head a shake. A real solid shake.
If your opinion hasn't change after that, then get down with your Perry Como records.
Graham |
12.08.07 - 8:09 pm | #
As accurate an observation as that is (to someone who also listens to rock radio but rarely), I'm still waiting for a new band that sounds like Talking Heads. 'Seems David Byrne is looking now to The Arcade Fire as the band to, shall we say, carry the torch.
Larry |
12.08.07 - 8:57 pm | #
Larry mentioned Arcade Fire, and that's exactly who I thought of as the current band that sounds most like Talking Heads.
Joe Buck |
12.08.07 - 9:41 pm | #
Clear Channel gets the bozack
jr |
12.08.07 - 11:05 pm | #
apros pos of everthing, been listening the The Name Of The Band Is The Talking Heads all day, having been gifted it by a pal. one of those sleeper albums for one of the best of all time. check it, yo.
trypticon |
12.09.07 - 1:21 am | #
Got "The Name of This Band is Talking Heads" on a local rock station here in San Diego about a hear ago as part of a listener-driven Desert Island Discs feature show. My selection was described by the DJ as "very indie".
Larry |
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