I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Suck on this, Broder.
A Jeff Sessions Ad as Eschaton?
Yeah, way to spend those ad dollars wisely Sessions campaign.
“I told the director that it was gracious of him to apologize. Of course, we’d still like to know more about how this happened and how the bureau is securing against similar violations in the future.”
Shorter: "Thank you, sir! Are you still having that Labor Day barbecue? Because if the invite's still open, I'd love to come!"
WASHINGTON — The Federal Bureau of Investigation said Friday that it had improperly obtained the phone records of reporters for The New York Times and The Washington Post in the newspapers’ Indonesia bureaus in 2004.
Checkin' up on young Barack in those madrassas, perhaps.
What a load of bullshit.
Why do NYT and WaPo keep reporters' phone records in their Indonesia bureaus?
Dear Fred Hiatt,
Your bathroom cam days are numbered, bitch
Why do NYT and WaPo keep reporters' phone records in their Indonesia bureaus?
probably someone used the Jakarta link to hack into the main systems back in the US.
Matthews: can McCain win saying the war was a good idea
Borger: no the people have made up their mind
Brooks: the people don't want to stay and don't want to leave
Kay: when you see an old man you assume he knows what he's doing and that makes you feel safer
Gregory: i disagree if there is calm there people want to leave and if there is chaos people want to leave
Borger: Obama must pay fealty that Holy Belief in the Surge
probably someone used the Jakarta link to hack into the main systems back in the US.
That makes more sense.
probably someone used the Jakarta link to hack into the main systems back in the US.
Supreme Commander Thor | 08.09.08 - 9:40 am
but that way the actual data collection would be outside the US, so it's okey dokey. no problems spying on Americans as long as its done from abroad.
Kay: when you see an old man you assume he knows what he's doing and that makes you feel safer
What sort of bullshit is this? I gotta assume when I look at McStain that he hardly knows where the fuck he is from moment to moment
Just got the NYT alert on Bernie Mac.
That's a fucking shame.
(CoT!
Yay!)
not that I can find any sympathy for Fred Hiatt or Pinch on being spied upon given the two of them flooding us with Novakula and Judith Queen of all Iraq Miller.
Matthews: vote for obama its against the war and McCain is the Bush World View
Brooks: no it's 2 things - vote for McCain is a vote that America's enemies are and dangerous and vote for McCain is a vote for character
Matthews: and Obama?
Brooks: vote for surrender and evil values
Borger: McCain will do what's best for America and Obama is a flip flopper
Chris: how much did McCain pay you to say that
Borger: $1,500 dollars
but that way the actual data collection would be outside the US, so it's okey dokey. no problems spying on Americans as long as its done from abroad.
Funny how that shit works out. And SBY was wanting to show he's a good friend of the US, so . . ..
I have one of Fred Hiatt's emails and can publish it here:
"Dear George W.
I love you i love you i love you i love you ilove you i love you!!!!!!!
Love,
Fred H."
I love this regime.
Kay: McCain will get credit for opposing
George Bush because he supported the Surge
Gergory: but the Surge was Bush's idea!
Kay: it is a paradox
Gregory: Obama can't win on the war because he was never a POW
Chris: ah
Brooks: John McCain will take on generals i doubt Obama can do that
Chris: so why vote against Obama?
Brooks: Obama never listens to the generals on the ground
but that way the actual data collection would be outside the US, so it's okey dokey. no problems spying on Americans as long as its done from abroad.
Under the latest amendment to FISA. Previously, no. A warrant was required under the old law the tap US citizens overseas.
If the FBI is apologizing, the taps occurred before the change in the law.
Take a look at me
Started my life
In a old, cold, run-down tenament slum (tenement slum)
My father left he never even married mama
I shared the guilt my mama knew
So afraid that others knew I had no name
This love we're contemplatin'
Is worth the pain of waitin'
We'll only end up hatin'
The child we may be creatin'
Love Child
Never meant to be
Love Child
(Scorned by) Society
Love Child
Always second best
Love Child
(Different from) Different from the rest
Morning, all
SS/DD Eh?
Morning, Moonbats!
Now the Chinese spying on anybody, well that's just despicable. And the Chinese talking about security and stuff well that's just a code word for their authoritarian meanness.
Is is really coincidence that a medication to treat bi-polar mania is advertised on The Chris Matthews Show?
OT kids' question: name of horse that did math problems?
who else?
everybody!
OT kids' question: name of horse that did math problems?
Clever Hans.
pud | 08.09.08 - 9:47 am
Where is that magnificent ape?
The REAL Cindy
Is is really coincidence that a medication to treat bi-polar mania is advertised on The Chris Matthews Show?
Culture of TrÜth |
Why the fuck do they even advertise medication for bipolar disorder?
It's not like a diet pill.
Our entire health care system is completely fucked up.
(off to take the teen to work. bbl)
Clever Hans.
NTodd, BJA Twitter General |
thanks!
Cute, honey.
Now do the one where you're the little teapot!
Why the fuck do they even advertise medication for bipolar disorder?
Free Speech!
We are helping patients help their doctors and participate in their health care decision making!
Derrick Jensen has an interesting take on Clever Hans. When it was determined that he couldn't really count, but was instead picking up very subtle facial clues from the people watching him, the reaction was: See, animals aren't as smart as people! Which completely discounts the intelligence needed to read faces.
The real question that comes to mind is, why? The Washington Post and the New York Times have both been amazingly acquiescence when it comes to the malfeasance of this administration. Certainly they have minor complaints, but overall, they have done little to point out the lawless behavior and raise the publics' consciousness as to the vile nature of their deeds.
It would be different if they had actually done something. As it stands, if they complain, it is laughable.
Where is that magnificent ape?
Vicki Iseman | 08.09.08 - 9:51 am | #
right here, baby. I got some more for you.
McCain: i can't believe anyone opposed John Roberts - truly bipartisan politicians support Republican nominees
Brooks: Republicans have denounced Sen Obama and called him a con man what more evidence do you need
Borger: there is a worry that he is arrogant and not willing to support the GOP
Chris: did you just call Obama a con man?
Brooks: yes - also i hate name calling and partisanship
We are helping patients help their doctors and participate in their health care decision making!
Snow (D-SC) |
Super size me!!
See, animals aren't as smart as people! Which completely discounts the intelligence needed to read faces.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
that's women's work, doncha know?
pud just admitted he has a two inch dick.
See, animals aren't as smart as people! Which completely discounts the intelligence needed to read faces.
Yup, I think it's pretty fucking amazing that the animal was able to read the person so well. We "train" our dogs, but they do it right back at us, too, so there are lots of different intelligences and we don't give our companions enough credit oft times.
or, i guess, women and poker players!
pud | 08.09.08 - 9:54 am |
Nope, you're not John McCain. You're just some loser trolling a blog.
Hello ape, where are youuuuu?
Aren't you all comforted to know that I'm applying my crack Sovietologist skills to this crisis in Georgia?
And no, pud, I'm not talking about Atlanta, Georgia.
pud just admitted he has a two inch dick
Only under a microscope.
Chris: isn't McCain better in every way?
Brooks: yes Obama's he's evil
Gregroy: yes
Borger: i'm very worried he's not Republican enough
Matthews: congress hasn't done anything in 40 years - why oh why won't Barack Obama just admit the Republicans are right about everything???
CoT,
It would be funny if it weren't so true.
Good morning, DWD and Hecate (is it Old World or something for people to reply to these greetings? ... I'll stop, if so ... just seems rude not to.)
Matthews: congress hasn't done anything in 40 years. McCain's 20 years in Congress gave him experience in how to make Congress get things done. Obama hasn't been there long enough to know how the system works.
okay, i gotta go get my love children ready to go with our friend to the theatre to see "aladdin" performed by only 3 actors. and then get myself ready to fix the leaky faucet and then take the recyclables to the dump and the check to the bank to pay the mortgage.
bye for now.
how the system works
I loathe this ...
Kay: there is no bipartsianship because airlines fares are too cheap
Gregory: i predict chris matthews will have a meltdown in 2008
Chris: ha!
Gregory: hillary will own health care in 2009
Borger: Obama will cheat and get lots of female votes
David Con Man Brooks: obama will cheat in his 1st 100 days by enacting popular stuff like S-Chip and stem cell research
Chris: John McCain is so noble he would never stoop so low
megisi,
No, I do not think it is "Old world" to be polite. But one can get in trouble by being specific so the general, "Morning, all" works. 
I felt sorry for Avedon last night in forgetting Hecate's fantastic and well-loved blog in her recommended blogs. It is just hard to remember EVERYONE. I am certain she meant no slight. Shit happens.
stoop or shtupp?
I'm feeling pretty fucked these days.
Work beckons.
Have a great Saturday, you bats!
ok, but what about that chicken who could play tic-tac-toe???
Only in Indonesia???? Yeah, right. Only the NYT and WaPo? Yeah, right.
Under the latest amendment to FISA. Previously, no. A warrant was required under the old law the tap US citizens overseas.
If the FBI is apologizing, the taps occurred before the change in the law.
montag | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:47 am
ummm... montag. no. a warrant was not required to tap US citizens overseas previously. Everything outside the US was fair game previously.
Now it requires a warrant to directly target a US citizen abroad, but no data minimisation required if the US citizen's data is *accidentally* picked up in a broad collection effort.
DWD - "morning, and shit" also works well.
NTodd can read a dildo pretty well. I guess that is some sort of intelligence, at least in Vermont.
Chris: who wins the debates??
Kay: duh Barack Obama
Gregory: McCain will shine
Borger: Obama will cheat by doing well in the debates
Brooks: um, Obama dood
Chris: ha!
raymond bonner has been targeted by the right wing gop since the 80s when he exposed the reagan administration's complicity in the human rights violations in central america.
An initial report by the inspector general last year found that the F.B.I. had violated its own policies in tens of thousands of cases by obtaining phone records in terrorism investigations through what are known as national security letters, without first getting needed approval or meeting other standards. In some cases, the F.B.I. used a whole new class of demands — emergency or “exigent” letters — that are not authorized by law. The emergency records were used in the Indonesian episode.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/
0...1dtZOy11UNsS2pw
OK, I went out and came back in ...
morning and shit, you guys!
Culture of TrÜth
i just saw that and was gonna note that dancin' dave was the only mouthpiece to see st john triumph in the debates. hell, even bobo thought obama would prevail.
Funny how that shit works out. And SBY was wanting to show he's a good friend of the US, so . . ..
Supreme Commander Thor | 08.09.08 - 9:44 am
yeah, they used to say the limit on the free hunting for the CIA and FBI abroad was the access to the phone systems of foreign nations.
Wasn't 2004 about when SBY was getting US-Indonesian military exchanges and weapons sales restarted?
SHEETS!!!
conflict schleets!
We are helping patients help their doctors and participate in their health care decision making!
Snow (D-SC)
"Doc, I think you should remove my liver, not my appendix."
Well it is just amazingly gorgeous here today; cool and no humidity and sunny. I'm going to go do some stuff in the garden. Hope to talk to you lovely liberals later today.
AT&T, I need the records of a Jakarta WaPo reporter ASAP!
Sure; since you didn't name the reporter, we will just give the records for all of WaPo's reporters.
Uh, what is the difference between a reporter and a columnist . . . nevermind, we'll just give you everything. Slide us a billion dollars we can hide from the IRS and our stockholders.
ummm... montag. no. a warrant was not required to tap US citizens overseas previously. Everything outside the US was fair game previously.
Beg to differ. Here's what USC 50, Sec. 1802 says about when the President can order surveillance without warrant. This is the law prior to the most recent changes:
(a)
(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801 (a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801 (a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;
(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and
(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801 (h) of this title; and
if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
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Note particularly subsections (a)(1)(A) and (B). US persons are specifically excluded. This subsection says that the US Attorney General must certify that communications to be intercepted are those of a foreign power or between foreign powers (other definitions would include agents thereof), and that it is reasonably expected that the communications of US persons will not be involved.
That's why there are further minimization requirements in this section which must be reported to Congress.
Personally speaking, I'd have no problem with the FBI inserting a very large, very bulky, very sharp-edged listening device straight up Fred Hiatt's ass.
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