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Yes, that kind of thinking is everywhere. Does Obama have a truth squad of some sort, volunteers who watch for this crap and respond? If so, they're not doing a very good job. They should be shoving their fists down the throat of any newspaper that publishes that crap.
A fundamental question will be how this stuff is mainstreamed by the "respectable" press.
Primarily by printing letters to the editor by crackpots.
The NYT today talks about how he didn't put his hand over his heart when singing the national anthem. I thought that was for the pledge. Anyway, it's rediculous.
Yeah, the racist dreck is going to get really thick.
The "Muslim" angle will be played up, of course, as a way to deflect the real problem: he's a darkie.
That Darned Cat!
Just chased L.E. off the helmet... he wanted to help remove the decal front, prematurely.
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A fundamental question will be how this stuff is mainstreamed by the "respectable" press.
In a whole series of Nedra-esque articles with the lead in "Some people are concerned by" or "Some people have speculated" or "Right wing internet speculation has centered on."
Followed by a parenthetical mention, near the end of the article, that Obama "claims" not to be, nor ever to have been, Muslim.
Let'd not forget that they will accuse him of running a cult--I have a post on my Sun Myung Moon blog about this: http://realsunmyungmoon.blogspot...lt-in-
past.html
I do the hand over the heart (or the baseball cap over the heart at the ballpark) thing, but then again I was in the military for years and that sort of thing becomes second nature.
I also get pissed off by poor flag etiquette, which seems to go hand in hand with mindless flagwaving of the GOP variety.
Al Sharpton on Cspan, 'Malcom X used to say if a man has a knife 6 inches in your back and takes 4 inches out you still have 2 inches of knife in your back.'
The mainstream press will do as their corporate masters command; that is, tear down Obama by any means available to prop up the approved corporate candidate, which at this point appears to be a lying sack of shit named McBush.
And the respectable press would be...
“Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young and Peal Jam have contributed tunes to the anti-war soundtrack for a documentary about a U.S. soldier paralyzed in Iraq. The 30-song, two-disc album ‘Body of War: Songs That Inspired an Iraq War Veteran’ will be released March 18 via Warner Music’s Sire Records label. All proceeds from the sale of the album will benefit Iraq Veterans Against the War.”
War. Huh! Good God, y'all, what is it good for?
mer -- did you find your game with ql?
Jeffraham Prestonian on haloscan't, "If jack fell into a cauldron of molten lava, the planet would have a new holiday."
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Al Sharpton quoting Harriet Tubman on the underground railroad, 'I could have freed more if I could have just convinced them they were slaves.'
War. Huh! Good God, y'all, what is it good for?
Making me and my cronies rich beyond the dreams of avarice.
They seemed the type to bureaucratically oppress people.
Buckeye/i>
Norman sheep shaggers.
My lot are more likely to be Saxon and Scandinavian, a few Celts and Picts....
And a visible strain of the folks the Celts tried to wipe out.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 2:50 pm |
I'm hoping for some Pict blood, just for entertainment purposes.
I'll probably do one of the geneaology dna tests this year, just for kicks. If I get really serious about it, I'll have to ask one of my distant cousins on dad's side if he'll allow himself to be swabbed.
Barak Obama is an admitted islam.
This is what google news find for Obama muslim.
David Frum was speaking fondly of the Spanish Inquisition on Maher last night. Maybe they can water board Obama and get him to confess to being a Muslim.
The irony of a Jew advocating water boarding is just astonishing.
Obama is a Manchurian Republican candidate.
Whereas Hillary is a stealth Republican and her good friend McCain is a faux Republican.
When things get tough, and they will, Obama will let his right-leaning side rule.
He will be, as they say, induced to do so.
9/11's happen.
Primarily by printing letters to the editor by crackpots.
"There are too many states nowadays. Please, eliminate three. P.S. I am not a crackpot."
Barak Obama is an admitted islam.
pud
pud is an admitted fucktard.
Funny when they talk about a Manchurian candidate, only one candidate in the race has ever been a POW.
The real question is whether the local comments boards -- and our local fishwrap is a case in point-- are dominated by cranky gobshites who mainline Limbaugh and have too much time on their hands, or subject to concerted trolling.
My guess is that it's a mixture of both. Trouble is, when you have aggressive bastards who talk endlessly about the need for shoot-to-kill policies towards blacks, browns, gays, hippies and out-of-towners (I do not exaggerate with reference to my local rag) it really takes time, effort and asbestos skin to call them out.
I was actually reading some of those threads today in ours. They're pretty spectacularly dumb.
Funny when they talk about a Manchurian candidate, only one candidate in the race has ever been a POW.
The ironic thing is he appears to have been brainwashed into believing that torture is effective at extracting information from the victim.
In a whole series of Nedra-esque articles with the lead in "Some people are concerned by" or "Some people have speculated" or "Right wing internet speculation has centered on."
Nit Pickler has the Obama beat for the AP.
Elizabeth 'Bumlicker' Bumiller, fresh from her I-love-Condi bio, has the McCain beat for the NYT.
The newest lie about Obama,
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/...ime-
rumors.html
"There are too many states nowadays. Please, eliminate three. P.S. I am not a crackpot."
Molly Ivors, Blue
We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah - the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
/Grandpa Simspon troll
In some ways that's what is going on in the Israel-Palestine fights, too: lack of water and lack of good arable land for the numbers that are there.
These may not be the main reasons wars happen, but when you look at history you will find the scarcity aspect in many wars.
Scarcity is a useful context in which corrupt leaders can turn populations against each other. The U.S. uses employment statistics to focus people's anger on other people, not failed government policy.
Goody Obama made my crops whither!
and a whole buncha reichwingers think st john is a manchurian candidate, flipped during his pow days... it's all so confusing..
and re david shuster. note this comment: Clearly, it was inappropriate for a lot of viewers.
code for: bitchy old feminists. notice also how he uses tweety's approach and puts the onus on those easily offended types.
i'm still waiting for mike isikoff to show up on msnbc. he had a major piece of this in newsweek yesterday; curious that tweets didn't have him on, esp as in the past isikoff has been a favored guest esp when he's got a scoop.
Case in point: we have a really sad case here: two brothers, maybe fighting, maybe just roughhousing. One ends up dead. The other brother conceals this for three days until the school calls DSS, who calls the family, and they find him.
The letters are all about how lame DSS is, how they should have broken down the door to the home, etc. No indication that they know the law or the facts of the case.
I also have a bad feeling that my cousin may have been the CPS caseworker, though I haven't asked her.
One kind of inoculation that might be useful, a la Snopes, is to create a central repository of bullshit email forwards, complete with refutations, and link it up the search rankings.
When will pud learn to speak sopmething resembling English?
Why are liberals so afraid to admit Obama is an islam? He even admits having gone to an islam madarso.
When will pud learn to speak sopmething resembling English?
JR, kerosene and a match
Incomprehensibly stupid in any language.
Care for a game, V?
Speaking of "Going Forward, students in Texas shut down a highway as the march the seven miles to the nearest polling place on the first day of early voting in the Texas primary.
mer, try this http://apps.facebook.com/scrabulous
Buckeye
Going by genotype and geography, the majority of mine should be Scots/Pict/Cruithne and Scandinavian.
By surname it's Saxon/Scandinavian and Scot.
We know there's a bit of Norman in there fairly recently, off the wrong side of the bed.
the past isikoff has been a favored guest esp when he's got a scoop about Bill Clinton.
nona
Fastened your tepee, nona.
I've got to get into this Scrabulous thing.
Why are liberals so afraid to admit Obama is an islam? He even admits having gone to an islam madarso.
pud
THIS pud is attempting to be a very low rent Merkin.
Goody Obama made my crops whither!
MikeJ
All the cows went dry, which is why prices for milk are out of sight.
There's a dunkin' chair on special at WalMart.
The email goes on to note that Obama sounds "a GREAT DEAL like Malcolm X." It asks, "Instead of the 'Manchurian Candidate,' is Obama the secret 'Farrakan Candidate'"? It then seeks to explain his purported anti-Israel bias:
I am Malcolm X!
Does Obama distrust the lighter-skinned, more "European"-looking Israelis and tend to favor the "darker complexioned" Palestinians and other Arabs (al Qaeada? [sic]) because his Muslim African father and cousins?
Wow.
Care for a game, V?
Molly Ivors, Blue
Sure, baby!
mer-- you should have a notification (look at "notifications" on the top of your home page) that tells you ql started a game with you.
THIS pud is attempting to be a very low rent Merkin.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 02.23.08 - 3:05 pm | #
Don't talk about me, bitch. Talk TO me.
What the fuck is an "islam", pud?
"Madarso" is an Italian outhouse, BTW.
JR, by nationality, I'm Irish American. By genotype, I can match probably match someone's mtDNA anywhere in the world.
Makes more sense to think McCain was the Manchurian Vietnamese candidate.
but we have too much integrity to push that shit.
that's a good thing.
i do love that stuff Bush pushedin 2000 about McCain being a collaborator while in the Hanoi Hilton.
You can finding it by googling mccain pow and collaborator. he not only had the best rooms but "female companionship."
gotta love that rover.
There's a dunkin' chair on special at WalMart.
Ruth
But does he wweigh the same as a duck?
"Madarso" is an Italian outhouse, BTW.
What the fuck is an "islam", pud?
"Madarso" is an Italian outhouse, BTW.
JR, kerosene and a match
This would be a pretend pud.
Well, I visited Freeperville the other day and found quite a bit about Cons sitting out the election if if McCain in candidate. Would it be "wrong" for concern trolls to go there and reinforce this idea. The spin is: the RNC needs to hit rock bottom before they'll start respecting us cons again.
Obama is your new bicycle.
They haven't even gotten started yet, wait til Obama (or Hillary) wins the primary.
The SwiftBoaters are still out of jail.
By genotype, I can match probably match someone's mtDNA anywhere in the world.
Sallyh
Well, we're all African, really.
What the fuck is an "islam", pud?
"Madarso" is an Italian outhouse, BTW.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 3:06 pm | #
Uh, you know very well waht one is. It's the liberals favorite brand of religious crazy.
Respectable?
Ha ha...Atrios pulled a funny.
But does he wweigh the same as a duck?
JR, kerosene and a match
These genetically engineered ducks, fer sure.
Well, we're all African, really.
JR, kerosene and a match
We're all mutts, and mutts are the best dogs.
The press is going to have to dumb down the coverage to record levels to pull this off. They may have to hire Pud.
But does he wweigh the same as a duck?
The ears say no.
Or at least, he's less aerodynamic.
crack pots discover New World Order conspiracy "manchurian messiah"
The spin is: the RNC needs to hit rock bottom before they'll start respecting us cons again.
r m
That already happened. Best thing now is a quick burial before the corpse stinks the place up.
"pud" doesn't realize that the market for rightwing concern trolls is already saturated, and the parody market is full as well.
maybe he should get into Tech stocks?
Why are liberals so afraid to admit Obama is an islam? He even admits having gone to an islam madarso.
Somebody tell Merkin Patriot pud's stealing his shtick.
sweet sue:
Much as I love my SP, I need to get him to stop giving me slobbery kisses while he's eating.
That is all.
We're going to need liberals with big enough balls to go on the air and called the crazy for what it is. For too long, what passes for liberal punditry in the media won't just come out and say that Coulter's a drunken loon or that Rush is a pill popping conspiracy theory moron. That would just be too uncivil.
Obama patriotism find this:
I might not vote for Obama; I will not vote for McCain. There are some things more important than the economy, and free speech is among them. Yes, I don’t like Obama’s stance on the Second Amendment, but the difference is, the president has little wiggle room right now on the second, while McCain might do serious further damage to the first, or the fourth. I dislike the steps Obama is willing to take in order to achieve his goals of economic equality. But these are as nothing to the notion that citizens have to be protected from information because Big Daddy John thinks we’ll get bad ideas in our heads.
Megan McCardle
pud is an admitted fucktard.
Dark Lord Cheney | 02.23.08 - 2:57 pm | #
No, a syphilitic dickhead.
this is your pud on cheap meth
Madarso is also a freshwater fish indigenous to Iran. It's an Islam!
Don't talk about me, bitch. Talk TO me.
Bitch?
Talking to yourself, cum gums?
Lovely acoustic number by the great Stephen Malkmus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D...h?
v=DyruR1rJ3wE
billy b, your guitar's backwards.
If you travel to the comments section of basically any local newspaper article about the primary campaign, you'll find people putting forth the notion that Obama is a Manchurian Muslim candidate who hates America.
Travel to a number of "liberal" blogs and find the same story. You can find Jeralyn at Talk Left explaining that Obama is not fit to be C-in-C or Lambert at Correntewire explaining that Obama should have run in the Republican primary or ...
pud is an admitted fucktard.
Dark Lord Cheney | 02.23.08 - 2:57 pm | #
No, a syphilitic dickhead.
Shared Humanity
I'm trying to determine if there's a meaningful difference between these two...
Judges?
We're going to need liberals with big enough balls to go on the air and called the crazy for what it is.
OK, so you've got your Howard Dean, your Cliff Schechter, and um....
Hm.
this is your pud on cheap meth
He probably snorted drain cleaner and thought it was meth.
As Harol Ramus said as Igon in Ghostbuster's "print is dead".
Who gets newspapers anymore? If the people didn't listen to the loud mouths on the television telling them not to vote for McCain, what makes you think they are going to pay attention to comments in fish wrap?
my cousin, who works nascar for altria (tobacco) and is very naive but very pro-Isarael, sent an email to the rest of us about OB this week.
It was supposed to be a sermon by a named FL rabbi -- he/she wasnt named -- repeating much of the soft slurs about OB, including that he was raised muslim and his minister is an anti-semite.
the political part of the family jumped all over it....and she said she was glad to hear it wasnt true.
But the darkside is really fishing to pollute the atmosphere.
My cousin in MA called it disguised racism and noted that her husband--who is active in Jewish circles has seen this stuff before.
"This type of garbage is disgusting. I have read about these types of distortions in the Jewish Press that XX gets... "
Personally, I'm waiting for the "Obama is poisoning village wells and sacrificing little Christian babies to Allah" stories.
Coming soon on World Nut Daily.
A fundamental question will be how this stuff is mainstreamed by the "respectable" press.
We know the answer to that. "Some say that Barak Obama is a Muslim who hates America. His wife, as well, has stated that she hates America. Tom, how is this playing in the heartland?"
Whether they believe this stuff or consider it their patriotic duty to lie, I do not know, but that's what we'll get if he's the candidate.
Obama has already succinctly refuted these and similar accusations. The video exists. "What we'll get" is a bunch of bullshit, and we already know that.
OK, so you've got your Howard Dean, your Cliff Schechter, and um....
Rachel Maddow?
evening moonbats 
England are playing against France tonight in the Six Nations Rugby Tournament
I also made me and my dad a couple of Dry Martini's so feel free to ask
If you travel to the comments section of basically any local newspaper article about the primary campaign, you'll find people putting forth the notion that Obama is a Manchurian Muslim candidate who hates America.
Travel to a number of "liberal" blogs and find the same story. You can find Jeralyn at Talk Left explaining that Obama is not fit to be C-in-C or Lambert at Correntewire explaining that Obama should have run in the Republican primary or ...
These are not really the same thing. The Manchurian Muslim candidate is a made-up smear story. The other comments are your usual sort of political debate.
We're all mutts, and mutts are the best dogs.
melior
Technically, in order to have a "mutt", you need to have some "purebreds" to start with.
That ain't ever happened in human history.
Another one is that Obama was not born in the U.S. and thus isn't elegible to be president. A friend's fundie mother heard this from her preacher and she believes it, no matter what evidence she's shown to the contrary.
People, don't. Some fools in the media will lie and try to hurt him. To not select him because of these lies is madness.
Here's something I'd like to see on mah teevee: The next time Tweety goes into his defense of Coulter spiel about how she writes books and has a law degree from a very respectable school in the University of Michigan, someone should respond by saying, "Hey, Chrissy, you know who else has an advanced degree from Michigan and writes books? The fucking Unabomber, that's who. And just like Coulter, he's batshit crazy, so why don't you have him on your pathetic show, dood? He sounds right up your alley!"
Rachel Maddow?
Molly Ivors
Good choice. Plus (and most importantly) she's actually getting airtime!
billy b, your guitar's backwards.
I just got back from taking my son's and my guitar to the guitar repair shop.
Dude there told me the same thing.
Another one is that Obama was not born in the U.S. and thus isn't elegible to be president. A friend's fundie mother heard this from her preacher and she believes it, no matter what evidence she's shown to the contrary.
Well, McCain was born in the Panama canal area.
If you travel to the comments section of basically any local newspaper article about the primary campaign, you'll find people putting forth the notion that Obama is a Manchurian Muslim candidate who hates America.
Travel to a number of "liberal" blogs and find the same story. You can find Jeralyn at Talk Left explaining that Obama is not fit to be C-in-C or Lambert at Correntewire explaining that Obama should have run in the Republican primary or ...
These are not really the same thing. The Manchurian Muslim candidate is a made-up smear story. The other comments are your usual sort of political debate.
Exactly. I worry a lot about his righward leanings and about the fact that he's far too willing to cozy up to the fundies. That's entirely different from Swiftboating and wingnut lies. And, whichever candidate the Dems run, that candidate will be subject to swiftboating.
I think Obama's camp is well aware of this shit, and has chosen the correct tack. Notice in the debate how he dismissed all the "cult" talk with wry laugh.
laugh at these people. mock them. remind the Independent voters that this GOP Freak Show is why we have had 8 years of President Chimpy.
"laughing at you" repeated forecfully by surrogates, is an effective tactic. makes the accuser seem like a tinfoil hat wearing slimeball, and the candidate looks like he takes it seriously only to the extent that he feels sorrow for the extent of his opponents delusions.
you'll find people putting forth the notion that Obama is a Manchurian Muslim candidate who hates America.
Well that's crap.
He's radical weather underground negro who hates America.
the way wingnuts keep using 'Muslim' as an insult, it becomes as meaningless as 'liberal'
its like they think they are oh so fucking cool for calling you a communist, homosexual, Muslim and so on
when really they have little or no idea what the terms actually mean
I assume someone has already noted that Obama is responsible for New Coke.
I haven't seen Cliff Schecter on the teevee nearly enough. I think MSNBC is afraid of Cliff.
Also Michelle Obama's Master's thesis was titled:
"Killin' Whitey: Guns or Arson?"
Another one is that Obama was not born in the U.S. and thus isn't elegible to be president. A friend's fundie mother heard this from her preacher and she believes it, no matter what evidence she's shown to the contrary.
What? That he was born in Hawaii? Wasn't Hawaii a state when he was born there, unlike say Barry Goldwater who was born in Arizona when it was still a territory?
The one making the rounds is that McBush can't be elected because he was born in Panama (on a US military base in the Canal Zone), even though both his parents were American citizens (dad a naval officer) and according to a law passed in 1790 (for the love of Pete) he's "natural born" as a result.
Well, McCain was born in the Panama canal area.
Echidne
A man, a plan, a canal - Panama.
Oh, and dozens of lobbyists.
But that won't fit in a palindrome.
The Panama Canal Zone was US territory at the time, Hawai'i was a State. Get over it, and stop lying about it.
Buckeye
Going by genotype and geography, the majority of mine should be Scots/Pict/Cruithne and Scandinavian.
By surname it's Saxon/Scandinavian and Scot.
We know there's a bit of Norman in there fairly recently, off the wrong side of the bed.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 3:05 pm
I'm pretty sure the last 1000 years or so are Norman/Anglo-Saxon/Celt, but who knows about before that.
I keep thinking there must be some Slav in there, since I'm so fond of them, but I've no clue.
you'll find people putting forth the notion that Obama is a Manchurian Muslim candidate who hates America
That's right, that's so right! So he better get in there and start chopping away at the rot, or he will get the blame for everything!
Oh, Hilary could do all that if she so desired. Obama has no choice!!
As for me, I'll be supporting him all the way, he'll need it to get through the "honeymoon".
Hecate, Mccain was born in the Canal zone, which is not the U.S.
Born: August 29, 1936 (Panama Canal Zone)
"Whether they believe this stuff or consider it their patriotic duty to lie, I do not know, but that's what we'll get if he's the candidate."
when i get wingnut emails about this, i just send 'em here:
http://www.barackobama.com/
factc..._a_muslim_1.php
Speaking of choice, Obama will appoint pro-life justices.
The Panama Canal Zone was US territory at the time, Hawai'i was a State. Get over it, and stop lying about it.
You talking to me?
People, don't. Some fools in the media will lie and try to hurt him. To not select him because of these lies is madness.
Did anyone imply that we would?
Megan McGargle: "... I have the attention span of a toddler."
Norm Geras: If you could choose anyone, from any walk of life, to be President, who would you choose?
Megan McGargle: I've never had much of a gift for picking out who would be well trusted with power; having voted for Bush in 2004, I'm unwilling to trust my judgement again.
http://normblog.typepad.com/
norm...mblog_pr_2.html
Whether they believe this stuff or consider it their patriotic duty to lie, I do not know, but that's what we'll get if he's the candidate.
I wonder how many times so far that Obama been "mistaken" for Osama on the cable news channels. There was an incident on Tweety's show just a few days ago. I know CNN has done it at least once.
The video evidence of both "errors"...
Wolf Blitzer & Chris Matthews - Obama Bin Laden?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RWP1pz70-is
Atrios, I wrote about this back in January, when I drove some senior citizens to the polls for early voting. These voters were all ardent Democrats, but one lady told me she was scared of "that Muslim, that Obama," and argued with me when I told her he was NOT a muslim.
I told her it's a right-wing lie, just like they lied about John Kerry with the Swift Boat Veterans. I'm not sure she believed me, but I could tell that got her thinking.
I just don't get how this lie has become so prevalent in the minds of your average American voters, except to say that repetition tends to make people think things are true. Before you know it, it's "common knowledge." And we've had community newspapers in the heartland repeating the lies in that e-mail, too.
I think the Obama campaign is remiss in not addressing this more forcefully, but what do I know.
"Killin' Whitey: Guns or Arson?"
That's "Cillin'"
Hecate, Mccain was born in the Canal zone, which is not the U.S.
Born: August 29, 1936 (Panama Canal Zone)
I know. I also know that Obama is native-born. I'm just telling you what the fundie ministers are out there telling their flocks.
Also Michelle Obama's Master's thesis was titled:
"Killin' Whitey: Guns or Arson?"
Which side did she end up deciding on?
Ruth, in 1936 The Canal Zone WAS US Territory.
Let's be fair... Cthoulter *probably* bathes more regularly than the Unabomber.
A friend's fundie mother heard this from her preacher and she believes it, no matter what evidence she's shown to the contrary.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Make sure they know where St. John was born!
I think MSNBC is afraid of Cliff.
I agree.
Ruth, in 1936 The Canal Zone WAS US Territory.
plantsman, silly
so is Puerto Rica now, but do we think those brown folks are merkin, /really?
When things get tough, and they will, Obama will let his right-leaning side rule
Yes, I'm just so certain those guys are all ready to compromise with Obama, and trust Obama to cover for their crimnality and incompetence. I don't think Obama is perfect, but he is not that stupid.
Some people are going to believe anything bad they hear about Obama, because he is african american. Hatred needs nothing more than hatred to thrive.
I was born in the birth canal zone.
Hecate, Mccain was born in the Canal zone, which is not the U.S.
He's not a natural-born citizen???
Doesn't that mean he's not eligible for POTUS?
We built and Administered the Canal.
Let's be fair... Cthoulter *probably* bathes more regularly than the Unabomber.
Does Armor-all count?
Ruth, in 1936 The Canal Zone WAS US Territory.
Oh.
Drat.
Exactly. I worry a lot about his righward leanings and about the fact that he's far too willing to cozy up to the fundies. That's entirely different from Swiftboating and wingnut lies. And, whichever candidate the Dems run, that candidate will be subject to swiftboating.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 02.23.08 - 3:18 pm | #
Yes, you have rational objections. If you spend some time at TalkLeft, for example, you will see something else entirely: a number of comments from people who insist that they will support McCain over Obama or who repeat Republican manchurian candidate stories with a slight spin.
It's totally understandable that people support one candidate or another, even vehemently - God knows, I am in no position to object to vehemence. But that's not what you see e.g. on Taylor Marsh comments.
Megan McGargle: I've never had much of a gift for picking out who would be well trusted with power; having voted for Bush in 2004, I'm unwilling to trust my judgement again.
An admission of voting for Bush in 2004 should get your voter registration permanently nullified.
And your high school diploma.
And drivers license.
Another one is that Obama was not born in the U.S. and thus isn't elegible to be president. A friend's fundie mother heard this from her preacher and she believes it, no matter what evidence she's shown to the contrary.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Especially funny since McCain was born in Panama.
Ruth, in 1936 The Canal Zone WAS US Territory.
Actually, technically, it was a bit more complicated than that.
The bottom line is that both of McBush's parents were natural born, so he is natural born, even though he was born not in the undisputed or unambiguous confines of the United States.
But you can't argue with wingnut fucktards, only slap them silly into silence.
I keep thinking there must be some Slav in there, since I'm so fond of them, but I've no clue.
Buckeye
Well, the Scandinavian Rus liked 'em so much the kept 'em....
He's not a natural-born citizen???
Doesn't that mean he's not eligible for POTUS?
Both of his parents were citizens, which makes him a citizen by birth. That would be true even if the Canal zone were not a US territory, which it was.
From this mornings SFGATE web page of the SF Chronicle
Saturday Feb 23, 2008 Updated 12:19 PM PT
Patriotism May Be An Issue
Obama's refusal to wear flag lapel pin and other incidents have conservatives talking.
McCain focuses on Nov. and Obama
Ohio, Texas uphill climbs for Clinton
Hecate, Mccain was born in the Canal zone, which is not the U.S.
He's not a natural-born citizen???
Doesn't that mean he's not eligible for POTUS?
Southern Beale
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Not necessarily. Since he is running as a mentally deranged violent neo con, it is perfectly all right. They break the laws all the time. They don't need no stinking laws!!!!. Now if he were running as a democrat, he would have already been run out on a rail.
I was born in the birth canal zone.
MikeJ
Not me, I'm a C-section baby!