I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
New habits.
I got rid of the F150 for a Focus.
I'll take the train when it gets here in 2010.
And now I'll call sheets.
Nuns have nice habits
Gas $2.49 here.
No jobs.
I agree that mass transit is now seen as "more cool." Will be interesting to see if winter changes this. We COULD have bus kiosks that are heated Starbucks stations. Or, they can continue to be poorly-lit places that women fear before sunrise and after sunset where poor people huddle in the cold.
Weird, I just got DT'd on this:
Um, Weeee??!! From CR:
The depth of the recession was revealed today as truckmaker Volvo admitted demand across the Continent has crashed by 99.7% as it took orders for just 115 new lorries in the last three months.
That compares to orders totalling 41,970 in the third quarter of 2007.
to be honest, I haven't changed my habits, but then I don't drive a lot...maybe 100 miles a week.
I think atrios could invent a little button or icon or something that would show up in a thread when he puts up a new post.
Haloscan would probably screw it up though.
it'd be very cool i could catch the bus to work.
sadly, it would add a half hour to my already 1 and half hour drive. even more sadly it could be done easily in half an hour, maybe less.
I buy a tank of gas for my 95 sentra about once every two months. I walk to work, and avoid going down to the local "posh" malls to buy shit I do not need.
I assume you would be in favor of a commuter train across PA. You know, those highways are expensive.
I walk to and from work.
Nyah nyaaah, you OPEC creeps.
People are feeling an anti-wealth effect that wasn't there, or wasn't as strong, when gas was at this price on teh way up.
maybe 100 miles a week.
I probably come close to this daily.
That compares to orders totalling 41,970 in the third quarter of 2007.
A. Morphous | 10.25.08 - 7:08 pm | #
lorrie must be a funny name in the UK
Maybe Volvo could sell some trucks to Iceland.
/snark
Seated chair massage stations at bus stops. Wine tasting parties at bus stops. Yoga lessons at bus stops. Networking sessions w wifi at bus stops. Speed dating parties at bus stops. Blood pressure screenings and flu shots at bus stops. Bus stops with bowls of E-Mer-Gen-C packets and saniwipes.
Or, we can keep doing it the same way.
What if guerrilla gardeners used the winter to deck guerrilla bus stops w packets of home grown sage, free knitted caps, packets of free seeds w directions for planting them in the Spring??
I probably come close to this daily.
ms fahrenheit
Sheesh.
I will say that MSFT does have a very cool private bus service for its full-timers. If I ever get my blue badge, i'll do that.
it'd be very cool i could catch the bus to work.
Me too. Especially because my employer would pay.
If anyone wants to rent a most entertaining series, may I suggest the HBO production of "Rome". Every episode is terrific.
They should just makes trucks instead of those pansy "lorries".
Seated chair massage stations at bus stops. Wine tasting parties at bus stops. Yoga lessons at bus stops. Networking sessions w wifi at bus stops. Speed dating parties at bus stops. Blood pressure screenings and flu shots at bus stops. Bus stops with bowls of E-Mer-Gen-C packets and saniwipes.
Or, we can keep doing it the same way.
What if guerrilla gardeners used the winter to deck guerrilla bus stops w packets of home grown sage, free knitted caps, packets of free seeds w directions for planting them in the Spring??
I like you.
The major obstacles for mass transit have less to do with "coolness" than with ease of satellite services at the destination, and systemic consistency, so that it's not just "cool" to use mass transit, it's cheaper, it's convenient, riders have retail and service options available to them while they are without their autos, and it's reliable.
In places where mass transit has not yet caught on, those are the bigger problems.
The depth of the recession was revealed today as truckmaker Volvo admitted demand across the Continent has crashed by 99.7% as it took orders for just 115 new lorries in the last three months.
That compares to orders totalling 41,970 in the third quarter of 2007.
A. Morphous
Ho-lee crap.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on. More people in large cars are driving faster in Houston, I know that.
Only gas prices affect these people, and sometimes not even that. So I'm still wondering if Hummer is dead, or if it will make a comeback.
Sheesh.
I cannot wait to move to a city. Philly isn't my pick, though.
Unemployment probably has something to do with continuing lower usage. First-time claims have been fairly high over the last couple of months, and job losses are higher than normal.
I'll take the train when it gets here in 2010.
sidhra صيذ&# | 10.25.08 - 7:06
You might get to where you your going a lot sooner if you start walking now!
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If anyone wants to rent a most entertaining series, may I suggest the HBO production of "Rome". Every episode is terrific.
Loved Rome....my wife and I called it Everybody Loves Titus.
oh, and Cleopatra was hawt!
Seated chair massage stations at bus stops. Wine tasting parties at bus stops. Yoga lessons at bus stops. Networking sessions w wifi at bus stops. Speed dating parties at bus stops. Blood pressure screenings and flu shots at bus stops. Bus stops with bowls of E-Mer-Gen-C packets and saniwipes.
Great thinking.
Loved Rome....my wife and I called it Everybody Loves Titus.
oh, and Cleopatra was hawt!
Anon, planted signs | 10.25.08 - 7:14 pm | #
Titus - the ultimate happy alpha male.
Cleopatra - quite the spinner!
Making mass transit free would help tremendously.
I have a fifty-mile commute, and I work 3 days a week I started spending one night a week with my sister, who lives close to my workplace. I think, like me, one you start it, the conservation habit is less of a big inconvenience than you thought it was going to be.
More cars have been repossessed
I agree that mass transit is now seen as "more cool." Will be interesting to see if winter changes this. We COULD have bus kiosks that are heated Starbucks stations. Or, they can continue to be poorly-lit places that women fear before sunrise and after sunset where poor people huddle in the cold.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 7:08 pm
So on target it needed to be seen again.
Here's the problem, or, rather here are the problems.
Most big city public transportation systems weren't prepared for the summer crush of new customers and the experience for those new customers wasn't the best.
Now, because of the failing economy and some injudicious "investments", some transportation systems (i.e., LA's Metro) are in serious financial trouble. Some are actually talking about service cuts as well as fare hikes (the latter is ludicrous...passenger fares make up a small fraction of the financing of public transportation).
Unless the feds and the states are willing to commit to public transportation as a necessary first step in energy independence, people will go back to their cars once gas hits $2.15 a gallon.
If anyone wants to rent a most entertaining series, may I suggest the HBO production of "Rome". Every episode is terrific.
Gilly Gonzylon
i watched it in first run, and rented the DVDs just a few weeks ago and watched in back-to-back. I loved it. Makes the Sopranos look like PG-13 in terms of sex and, even moreso, violence.
Obviously, as a DFH, if there was something I could do, I would.
I saw a gas stop that had gas at 2.29 per gallon. Almost at a level I can accept. Maybe another 50 cents.
Seated chair massage stations at bus stops. Wine tasting parties at bus stops. Yoga lessons at bus stops. Networking sessions w wifi at bus stops. Speed dating parties at bus stops. Blood pressure screenings and flu shots at bus stops. Bus stops with bowls of E-Mer-Gen-C packets and saniwipes.
Please share my umbrella.
Wait till we find that families are living in SUVs in Wal-Mart parking lots.
Dexter was extremely good for a long time but it totally sucks now. In fact one of the strangest reasons it sucks is because of the old-fashioned anti-East Asian racism. They have Japanese characters that are stupid (in ways that actual Japanese are not) for no particularly good reason. No logic, no depth of character, just "Japanese people are irritating." Also the same writer doesn't seem to know anything about Japan: they talk about Shitno and Buddhism being some sort of opposites. Fucking imbiciles.
People got kinda whipsawed by the speed of the price increases, I'd think. Wouldn't necessarily ratchet right back up.
Also, I hear retail is absolutely cratering. That alone means less driving.
I got rid of the F150 for a Focus.
sidhra
i love that truck. american classic.
cognitive dissonance, pull in see that stars and bars, make the obvious assumptions about a central fl. driver with that plate, then notice the stethoscope hanging off the mirror.
a redneck dr.?
Making mass transit free would help tremendously.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 10.25.08 - 7:15 pm |
The University of Minnesota has three twin cities metro area campuses. The St. Paul campus is connected to the Mpls East bank by a dedicated busway. Busses (at least when I last attended) were free, frequent, and fast.
And full.
Shitno? New religion I presume?
I'll take the train when it gets here in 2010.
Light rail comes to my suburb then as well. Of course, if you want to go anywhere you have to go downtown first.
Going to the symphony tonight. Here's the program:
Masterworks Concert 1
October 25, 2008, 8:00pm
Flynn Center, Burlington
Conducted by: Jaime Laredo
Featuring: Augustin Hadelich, violin
Program:
Chasing Light...by Joseph Schwantner
Estancia: Ballet Suite by Ginastera
Violin Concerto No. 1 by Shostakovich
Bidding process for Palin's pipeline was flawed
AP investigation shows terms benefited the winner: TransCanada Corp.
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin's signature accomplishment — a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 — emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27374946/
Better late then never.
Titus - the ultimate happy alpha male.
His ordeal against the gladiators was unbelievable. Gruesome and fun at teh same time.
"THIRTEEEEEEEN"
Shame Titus Pullo and Atia never tore one off.
The guy who plays Masuka is actually good in other things we've seen him in.
Trust us, there is less racism and igfnorance in Sulu's worst day than in a line of Vince Masuka dialogue. Why is this happening at this late date? Isn't this type of racism supposed to be passe?
Shitno? New religion I presume?
You worship a number of kinds of poo.
loved rome, especially atia
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Shame Titus Pullo and Atia never tore one off.
BlueinColorado | 10.25.08 - 7:19 pm | #
Who knows? They're making /have made a Rome movie.
I think a lot of universities run free bus services. It was true between campuses at Johns Hopkins 25 years ago.
loved rome, especially atia
The most amazing skin tone.
Also, I hear retail is absolutely cratering. That alone means less driving.
jayackroyd |
To say nothing of people having fewer jobs to commute to. I'm still reeling from the Chrysler announcement: 25% layoffs? Jesus. Anybody know how many individuals that is?
Nasty rainy storm front coming through Philly right now.
Should be gone by World Series time in an hour.
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Have a wonderful time, Gromit.
i see where the mini will be released in an all electric version
except that it will be very limited numbers, and they will lease the vehicles rather than sell them, ar first
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Yes, Gromit, enjoy!
I think a lot of universities run free bus services. It was true between campuses at Johns Hopkins 25 years ago.
leibniz leibkins
True today. Took one down to Penn Station from Homewood in September after helping my daughter deal with furniture from Ikea.
U of Chicago likewise has a shuttle to sundry parts, including to Argonne National Labs, about forty miles away.
Supertrain, baby!
"Interesting that people are still driving fewer miles even though gas has come back down. Economy, new habits, what?"
yes, plus kids back in school, no vacations.
who got $ anyway?
Six years ago I tried and failed to convince Atrios the Strib was shite. It was a kind of firm brown shite then; now it's yellow running poo. But it was always shite, at least after the Cowles family sold it, which happened in the late 90's IIRC.
Better late than never comment.
To say nothing of people having fewer jobs to commute to. I'm still reeling from the Chrysler announcement: 25% layoffs?
The current administration is warning of bigtime employment problems coming. If they're saying it, it must be fixin to get real bad.
Who knows? They're making /have made a Rome movie.
Gilly Gonzylon |
Cool, hadn't heard that.
in manhatten everybody walks or takes the subway, except for old people taking the buses and crazy people from nigeria and pakistan driving cabs
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Obama's Transition: Orderly, Quiet, With A Few Early Decisions Made
If secret-keeping is a sign of success, the Obama campaign is well on its way to a solid presidential transition. Only a few details about Obama's extensive transition planning have leaked out, and even the more talkative Obama aides and advisers are keeping mum. They have an election to win.
http://
marcambinder.theatlantic....rderly_quie.php
Large employers could get on board as well.
Several in the LA area (a couple of large law firms and USC, e.g.) provide free shuttle service from Union Station, which is the hub for the light rail and MetroRail system.
Others are offering free monthly metro passes instead of free parking as a benefit to employees.
People are driving less 'cause they don't have any money to spend on anything once they get there, maybe?
I loved Rome for its entirely pre-xian portrayal of sex.
And the last three minutes of that show are some of the best acting, ever. Polly was amazing.
one you start it, the conservation habit is less of a big inconvenience than you thought it was going to be.
I used mass transit up east for a decade. it was wonderful, it was easier and cheaper than driving.
I'm not talking about the actual transit, I'm talking about the sytem. During my earlier experiences, the system was dependable, you could plan around it. It didn't cost an arm and leg to get to the airport, for example. There were on ground services built around rountes- drug stores, video rentals, restaurants, dry cleaners. Things ran on time.
The same is not true of cities without a mass transit culture and without adequate planning around the routes, on ground services, fares and schedules. In Dallas for example, I have friends that pretty much have to go out of their way to use mass transit and also end up driving as much or more when they get home in the evenings to run all the errands they couldn't run on foot.
Systems have to mature.
"emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration,"
the flaws come built-in.
schweeet.
and crazy people from nigeria and pakistan driving cabs
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tacitus voltaire
Huh. Sikhs, when I was there, but that was a fuck of a long time ago.
In the face of the current American autos lack of decent mileage figures, Cadillac has decided to introduce a "station wagon" in the general image of the now defunct Pacifica.
Simply brilliant!
Can we use the "D" word yet?
Haven't had a chance to since 1930 or so...
If secret-keeping is a sign of success, the Obama campaign is well on its way to a solid presidential transition. Only a few details about Obama's extensive transition planning have leaked out, and even the more talkative Obama aides and advisers are keeping mum. They have an election to win.
http:// marcambinder.theatlantic....rderly_quie.php
A. Morphous
I'd almost bet the Bushies will trash the West Wing, in retaliation for the non-existent trashing that (didn't actually) occur after Clinton left office.
Anyone remember that?
"Obama aides and advisers are keeping mum. They have an election to win."
the adults are coming back to washington.
Hummer is dead, or if it will make a comeback.
Rmj, Joe the Theologist
Saw an ad on TV the other evening for the new 2009 H3.
I'd almost bet the Bushies will trash the West Wing, in retaliation for the non-existent trashing that (didn't actually) occur after Clinton left office.
Anyone remember that?
Adam Hominem |
I'm sure Mrs Greenspan, having reported every rumor as truth in Jan, 2001, will dismiss every truth as rumor in Jan, 2009.
The current administration is warning of bigtime employment problems coming. If they're saying it, it must be fixin to get real bad.
When the Bushies depart, I think we'll be finding out just how much bullshit was used to construct the recent iterations of the DoL's business birth/death models.
We'll probably find out that unemployment has been higher and more longstanding than any of us considered likely.
Michael Froman, a Harvard Law classmate of Obama's who served in the Treasury Dept. as Robert Rubin's chief of staff, is a key member of the team, as is Chris Lu, who most recently served as Obama's legislative director in the Senate.
The identity of his nominee for Secretary of the Treasury will be disclosed in short order. Former Harvard President Larry Summers and New York Federal Reserve Board president Timothy F. Geithner are possibilities.
The foreign policy establishment expects Obama to announce that Defense Secretary Robert Gates will stay at his post for an extended but definite period of time to manage the transition into Afghanistan and out of Iraq, but it's not clear whether Obama has accepted this collective recommendation.
Obama will also name his national security adviser; the identity of this person is not known, although Washington national security hands believe that Gregory Craig, a former senior national security lawyer in the Clinton administration is the frontrunner, although others point to Susan Rice, a former Clinton NSC staffer, as a possibility.
Hummer is dead
NooooO!
oh wait, you mean the vehicle.
Anyone remember that?
Adam Hominem | 10.25.08 - 7:26 pm
Of course we do. The Obama admin will move in and discover that all the backward B's have been pried off the keyboards.
In the face of the current American autos lack of decent mileage figures, Cadillac has decided to introduce a "station wagon" in the general image of the now defunct Pacifica.
Simply brilliant!
LI Liberal | 10.25.08
The 'crossover' XUVs are basically station wagons as far as I can tell. Just don't use the term.
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I'm sure Mrs Greenspan, having reported every rumor as truth in Jan, 2001, will dismiss every truth as rumor in Jan, 2009.
BlueinColorado
Roger that.
In Dallas for example, I have friends that pretty much have to go out of their way to use mass transit
DART has built a very nice light rail system, but there are no east west lines. You also have to go all the way into the city to go anywhere but in a strait line. Maturity is certainly needed here. Billions in maturity.
Obama will also name his national security adviser; the identity of this person is not known
Thandi Newton!
I'd almost bet the Bushies will trash the West Wing, in retaliation for the non-existent trashing that (didn't actually) occur after Clinton left office.
What do you mean "will"?
OK, time to get dressed. Later or tomorrow, gators.
Saw an ad on TV the other evening for the new 2009 H3.
SoCalCommie
I watch the commercials for the hybrid Chevy Behemoth (Tahoe?), and know that somewhere in Detroit, or Grosse Pointe, some GM exec is toasting himself with a glass of Glenlivet, truly oblivious to how, why, and how badly Toyota is kicking his company's ass.
Bush trashed the country, and he wasn't even elected to run it.
What do you mean "will"?
A. Morphous
Point to you, sir or madam.
House is hot!
Appointing Larry Summers would be a big mistake.
I watch the commercials for the hybrid Chevy Behemoth (Tahoe?), and know that somewhere in Detroit, or Grosse Pointe, some GM exec is toasting himself with a glass of Glenlivet, truly oblivious to how, why, and how badly Toyota is kicking his company's ass.
BlueinColorado
They named a car after a cigar smoking, Mauser shooting, magical Russian cat?
(h/t Mikhail Bulgakov)
DART has built a very nice light rail system, but there are no east west lines. You also have to go all the way into the city to go anywhere but in a strait line. Maturity is certainly needed here. Billions in maturity.
smalfish
The commuter rail tunnel in Center City Philadelphia connecting the old Reading system with the Pennsylvania railroad system was a huge success.
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Larry Summers trashed Russia, and it wasn't even his country.
Word is spreading that where it's allowed, don't take the shortcut by voting a straight ticket. Even if it doesn't impact the presidential vote, it can fail to register a vote for non-partisan offices down ticket.
States that allow straight ticket voting include:
Alabama, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan,
New Mexico, North Carolina,Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
Appointing Larry Summers would be a big mistake.
Appointing Donna Summer would rock.
Seated chair massage stations at bus stops. Wine tasting parties at bus stops. Yoga lessons at bus stops. Networking sessions w wifi at bus stops. Speed dating parties at bus stops. Blood pressure screenings and flu shots at bus stops. Bus stops with bowls of E-Mer-Gen-C packets and saniwipes.
Or, we can keep doing it the same way.
What if guerrilla gardeners used the winter to deck guerrilla bus stops w packets of home grown sage, free knitted caps, packets of free seeds w directions for planting them in the Spring??
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 7:12 p
I want you to run Dayton's RTA.
I notice that RTA ridership still seems to be up, so, like Atrios, I am presuming it's the overall economy, and no longer just the gas prices.
Holy shit! Obama's up by 1 in Arizona - LV.
So, when exactly will Chimp bring honor and dignity back to teh White House?
Holy shit! Obama's up by 1 in Arizona - LV.
Vicki,
I love you, and it!
Source? link?
I have several friends who have simply sold their cars and now ride public transportation.
It's not just the cost of gas, but the cost of operating a vehicle in total.
This is symptomatic of people who can't earn about to support an automobile, and so they're shedding them.
It's the lack of living wage jobs in this country, and it's just starting to show it's head.
I watch the commercials for the hybrid Chevy Behemoth (Tahoe?), and know that somewhere in Detroit, or Grosse Pointe, some GM exec is toasting himself with a glass of Glenlivet, truly oblivious to how, why, and how badly Toyota is kicking his company's ass.
The car market in this country is ripe for a smallish hybrid pickup. If I could conceive of that years ago, the manufacturers certainly could have. But, that wouldn't be nearly as profitable per unit as all those SUVs and duallies that are now sitting on the lots gathering dust....
Please, Deity, let Obama win Arizona.
I know this is a little vindictive, but I want McCain/Palin to be humiliated.
Appointing Larry Summers would be a big mistake.
Appointing Donna Summer would rock.
sidhra صيذ&# | 10.25.08 - 7:32 pm
Andy Summers could back her up on guitar!
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I know this is a little vindictive, but I want McCain/Palin to be humiliated.
Hell, I want a cosmic buggering.
Source
Sorry, it just stunned me, and I thought it may have been posted here already.
Hey Montag. There's a "hybrid" Escalade, if you're interested.
Please, Deity, let Obama win Arizona.
Hell, let's see Hulk convicted and Obama win Alaska too.
The foreign policy establishment expects Obama to announce that Defense Secretary Robert Gates will stay at his post for an extended but definite period of time to manage the transition into Afghanistan and out of Iraq, but it's not clear whether Obama has accepted this collective recommendation.
Oh for crying out loud. No republicans. No bushies. What was the point? No no no. Get them out.
Sorry, it just stunned me, and I thought it may have been posted here already.
i might have to dance naked if this comes to pass.
But, that wouldn't be nearly as profitable per unit as all those SUVs and duallies that are now sitting on the lots gathering dust....
montag |
Pick up truck buyers love those big bloated scary looking front end grilles and hoods. How much they can carry in the back seems irrelevant based on what I usually see.
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From the story...
In fact, Americans drove 15 billion fewer miles in August than they did in the same month a year ago, according to federal data, which puts the streak of declining driving habits at 10 months.
That represents a 5.6% decline from August 2007, marking the biggest year-over-year drop ever recorded, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters said in a statement.
Gas began its swift descent from record highs in mid-July and currently costs a national average $2.78 for a gallon of regular unleaded, according to recent numbers from AAA. That's down almost a dollar from a month ago and is more or less the same as it cost in October 2007.
Of course, in August, gas prices were still near their peak.
Even $2.78 is still pretty high in historical terms.
It will be interesting what the trend will be in a few months, when gas hits $2.00 or less.
Currently, the Nymex RBOB Gasoline Future (basically a measure of the wholesale gasoline price), sits at $1.47 per gallon which is less than half what it was back in July, went it was over $3.00 and prices at the pump were over $4.00.
Oil is at $64 a barrel and dropping. $50 a barrel seems likely.
Vicki, Who ♥
i don't think he'll win arizona, but it looks like he's going to win, and that is stunning enough.
feels empty tho, considering the damage done.
That's early voters, not likely.
New Arizona Poll
Myers Research (D) & Grove Insight (D). 10/23-24. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)
Likely voters
McCain (R) 44
Obama (D) 40
Early voters (34% of the sample)
McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47
I wonder if Bush or McCain will be using the word 'mandate' the morning after the election.
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Early voters, absolutely right. I just hit the orgasmic "L"...if Simels were not in Paris, he'd regret my error.
i hit the city and i lost my band.
Appointing Larry Summers would be a big mistake.
Appointing Donna Summer would rock.
sidhra صيذ&# | 10.25.08 - 7:32 pm
Andy Summers could back her up on guitar!
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It's just me again
Summer Saunders could be Secretary of Aquatics.
I'm grateful for the abundant evergreens in my back yard. Evergreens are undiminished by the seasons and look good with snow.
I wonder if Bush or McCain will be using the word 'mandate' the morning after the election.
Maybe they should go on a couple coffee meetups before they say they have a mandate going on.
I wonder if Bush or McCain will be using the word 'mandate' the morning after the election.
When they're on the horn with Cub Reporter Jeff Gannon they will.
Loved Atia in Rome. Loved her because she was so cute in Under the Tuscan Sun, which is one of my guilty pleasures.
milk blood to keep from running out...
I wonder if Bush or McCain will be using the word 'mandate' the morning after the election.
"I find the idea of a negro president abhorrent."
-Clarence Thomas, November 2008
Out for a spell. See you later.
I wonder if Bush or McCain will be using the word 'mandate' the morning after the election.
good Scrabble word.
"Holy shit! Obama's up by 1 in Arizona - LV."
fuck, you had me going there.
Holy exploding bat lungs!
Why Wind Turbines Can Mean Death For Bats
ScienceDaily (Aug. 26, 200
— Power-generating wind turbines have long been recognized as a potentially life-threatening hazard for birds. But at most wind facilities, bats actually die in much greater numbers. Now, researchers reporting in Current Biology, a Cell Press journal, on August 26th think they know why.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/
rele...80825132107.htm
fuck, you had me going there.
jdw
Sorry, toesucker.
Still, it's better than nothing.
Early voters (34% of the sample)
McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47
It would be beautiful if McCain lost his own state.
Icing on the cake.
When they're on the horn with Cub Reporter Jeff Gannon they will.
sidhra صيذ&# | 10.25.08
'On the horn' with Gannon - thanks you've said enough.
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Can they put the turbines underground?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne...cg&
refer=energy
Oct. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Oil options contracts to sell crude at $50 by December almost tripled today after an OPEC decision to slash production failed to allay concerns that the global economic slump is hurting demand.
The cost of the $50 December 2008 put option, which gives the holder the right to sell oil futures at $50 a barrel, rose as much as 142 percent to $1.50 on the New York Mercantile Exchange, compared with 62 cents yesterday, according to exchange data.
``It certainly seems to me that we could get down to $50 a barrel,'' Adam Sieminski, Deutsche Bank's chief energy economist, said in a Bloomberg Radio interview today. ``You could look at the OPEC cut as a sign of weakness, not strength.''
Buffy Summers could be Secretary of Defense.
CNN Quick Vote
With lower gas prices, are you driving more?
Yes 12% 8336
No 88% 59275
Total Votes: 67611
hello ruby in the dust...
when so many love you is it the same...
Can they put the turbines underground?
A. Morphous
The people who installed our solar array pointed out that the display had a light you could switch on. They didn't get it when I asked if that was so you could see it working at night.
Psycho on TCM in 15 minutes.
Just FYI.
Considering how the price of food/heating continues to go up, lower gas prices probably are only helping to pay these expenses.
Psycho on TCM in 15 minutes.
Just FYI.
Anon, planted signs
Sarah?
Psycho on TCM in 15 minutes.
I don't have TCM, now what do I do?
Going to the symphony tonight. Here's the program:
Gromit | 10.25.08 - 7:18 pm | #
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Elitist!
Mrs. Trifecta is watching CNN. She is watching Lou Dobbs. She never does this. She just turned to me and asked, "is Lou Dobbs a racist"?
Simple answer for the simple question.
Yes.
Psycho on TCM in 15 minutes.
Just FYI.
Anon, planted signs |
I'm skipping the Bates Motel this time and staying at a Holiday Inn Express!
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I don't have TCM, now what do I do?
ms fahrenheit
Come to my house. Bring chips and queso.
I don't have TCM, now what do I do?
Whatever you do, DON'T GET IN TEH SHOWER!!!
Come to my house. Bring chips and queso.
Anon, planted signs | 10.25.08 - 7:51 pm | #
I've got the chips right here. I'll be right over.
That's early voters, not likely.
They are people who have already voted. That should actually carry more weight anyway, considering that not all "likely" voters will actually vote and the fact that the likely voter number is arrived at by using a voting model that isn't guaranteed to be correct.
McCain is genuinely in trouble in his own state.
My local sports team was eated by "Da Gators" at the Swamp,
sixty-fukin' 3
ta f i v e
yeah, 5.
That's early voters, not likely.
One more bad headline for a snakebit campaign that didn't realize that a strategy of rat-fucking is a bad idea when you're the rats.
As others have said, I want that old fool humiliated. He deserves it for his deliberately poisonous campaign
OK, it's time for me to curl up with Shakespeare's Richard II. As is usually the case, my time here has been well spent, for which I thank you all.
In return, I offer Bonus Critter Blogging.
Damn, but we inhabit a fascinating planet!
McCain is genuinely in trouble in his own state.
Richard | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 7:53 pm | #
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And not just from all the sun.
think i'll pack it up and buy a pickup...
drive it down to L.A.
Early voters (34% of the sample)
McCain (R) 46
Obama (D) 47
It would be beautiful if McCain lost his own state.
Icing on the cake.
Richard | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 7:45 pm |
Will he actually be forced to campaign in his home state? This is sweet.
Re: Psycho from Wikipedia
"Hitchcock acquired the film rights anonymously through an agent for a very small sum of $9,000.[5]"
What a prick!
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McCain is genuinely in trouble in his own state.
Richard | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 7:53 pm | #
Early onset?
A sea moth? I didn't know they existed.
My local sports team was eated by "Da Gators" at the Swamp,
This is the reason I don't follow college football. Too many tomato cans on the schedule.
re-HICA!
Have you called for Obama?
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I confess that I've never watched Psycho all the way through.
The Exorcist is the scariest movie I've ever seen (but I've only seen 5 tops)
Penn State is playing Ohio State any minute now.
I'm a Hitchcock fan, but I find Psycho kind of drags. YMMV.
I have called and knocked TODAY.
Obama looking good on the cover of Men's Health
http://www.americablog.com/2008/...-cover-
too.html
For some reason I haven't found the need to watch a horror movie for almost eight years now.
Does Crowd Size Matter? McCain Hopes Not
The problem for the McCain campaign is that less than 1,000 people heard him make this argument at his rally here, compared with the 40,000 that are expected to greet Barack Obama when he arrives in town this evening.
I have called and knocked TODAY.
ms fahrenheit
I did COG* detail for sign-planting today
*Chase, Obama and Gregoire.
ms fahrenheit: I have called and knocked TODAY.
You are a patriot!
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The problem for the McCain campaign is that less than 1,000 people heard him make this argument at his rally here, compared with the 40,000 that are expected to greet Barack Obama when he arrives in town this evening.
They all had to wash their hair.
It's quiet here this evening.
Have you called for Obama?
Lost my voice. Seriously.
You are a patriot!
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Jeffraham Prestonian
...and I love my country.
And not just from all the sun.
I would imagine that the likely voter model being used assumes turnout trends similar to those in 2004 and 2000 and, as such, probably oversamples GOPers.
McCain's in trouble in Arizona, all right.
I gave 50 bucks to a DNC lady outside Trader Joe's in Brookline (good pickins there) and went to a 2 hour voter protection team training last Sat. I should be doing more.
Trifecta: Is taht NM or CO?
Uncle Fester
[[[[UNCLE FESTER]]]]] Better?
I am a pain in the ass.
Obama is a beautiful world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=fRB2wFhXIPs
I love the Japanese.
Of course, you've all seen this by now...
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Why do I get the feeling that after McCain loses his ass on November 4th he will take it out on his whithered old wife or his poor adopted daughter?
probably oversamples GOPers
Why would gopers be oversampled?
A 45 year old man is the starting pitcher in the World Series. Wish him luck.
I am a pain in the ass.
ms fahrenheit | 10.25.08 - 8:02 pm |
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I wasn't looking for attention just meant the comments were coming slower than usual. 
JP
You spend entirely too much time on the tubes.
That McCain was scary.
Ugh, Michael O'Hanlon endorsed Obama.
I don't want him. He did the lifelong democrat crap, but he hates Obama, but Palin sucks more. He really hopes Obama changes his mind and stays in Iraq forever though.
So apparently there was a Friar's Club roast of Matt Lauer the other night. And here's what his colleague Meredith Viera had to say:
...Meredith Viera, Lauer's Today costar started right in with, "That motherfucker Matt Lauer," and got a big laugh.
"I am amazed that I have time for this stupidity," she said, pointing out that she does the Today show, Who Wants to be a Millionaire?, has three kids and a husband, and that's a lot of balls to juggle.
"Look at Katie Couric. She juggled Matt's balls for six years. That's three years per ball." (At this point, the spectacle of a TV personality doing this kind of material had the room of 1,900 rolling.)
"She squeezed those suckers so tight, she left nothing for me. Thanks, Katie," Viera said, but she was just getting warmed up.
"People say he's so prim and proper, like he's got a stick up his ass. It's not a stick, my friends, it's Al Roker's dick."
After showing some slides from Beijing, with Lauer and Roker prancing in tights, she added: "Let' just say Al puts the 'meat' in 'meteorologist."
"I don't know if you knew this about him, but Matt is a lefty," she continued. "Which is precisely why NBC hired him." (Oh, the McCain camp is going to love that one.)
"Let's focus on Matt's numerous achievements in journalism," she said with the briefest of pauses. "OK, that's done."
She then congratulated him, and said, "I'll see you Monday, asshole."
Does Crowd Size Matter? McCain Hopes Not
The problem for the McCain campaign is that less than 1,000 people heard him make this argument at his rally here, compared with the 40,000 that are expected to greet Barack Obama when he arrives in town this evening.
trifecta | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 7:58 pm
His appearance in Dayton on Monday will be at a 4000 seat arena.
I wasn't looking for attention just meant the comments were coming slower than usual.
I was being loud because you said it was quiet.
McOld's down 20% from yesterday on 538:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
There must be free titties and beer in Iraq. Cause why else would the right want to stay?
From 538:
Obama, at least, does not look to be competitive in South Dakota or Arkansas. It will be very difficult for Obama to win more than about 397 electoral votes, which is where he'd end up if he wins all the states where we currently have him favored,
Michael O'Hanlon can go fuck himself and apply for a job with LieberCainPAC, which I'm sure will be announced Nov 6
McCain drew 4,000 people in Denver with John Elway, who shares with a good number of Coloradans his firm belief that he can walk on water.
Obama is coming tomorrow:
The Obama campaign is expecting about 25,000 people, she said, well within the 34,000-person capacity of the park.
It will be very difficult for Obama to win more than about 397 electoral votes
Hahahahaha
It will be very difficult for Obama to win more than about 397 electoral votes, which is where he'd end up if he wins all the states where we currently have him favored.
The failed Obama candidacy will be nothing compared to the failed Obama presidency...
It will be very difficult for Obama to win more than about 397 electoral votes
Why can't obama close the deal?
The Obama campaign is expecting about 25,000 people, she said, well within the 34,000-person capacity of the park.
That's a lot of empty seats. Why don't people want to see Obama? Why can't he close the deal???
Please, please, if there is a deity and one with an ear, please keep Obama safe.
McPalin have unleashed the furies, small in number but they make up for it in their craziness.
Anonymized Cokes...
I hate Cablevision.
Why can't obama close the deal?
Anon, planted signs | 10.25.08 - 8:09 pm | #
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Must be all of that hope and change crap he's promising.
John McCain's win percentage is now 4.3 percent, down from 5.1 percent yesterday.
That, my friends, is just where we want him.
Chopped liver here, trademark dave?
Remember way back when we were told by Hillary supporters and trolls how the GOP attack machine would rip Obama to shreds. Another myth dies!
drill, baby., drill
That, my friends, is just where we want him.
McCain: Retreat? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.
John McCain's win percentage is now 4.3 percent, down from 5.1 percent yesterday.
That, my friends, is just where we want him.
I'd rather see him with a 0.0 chance of winning.
HPK,
Git your modem working?
I better add that I think Hillary has done a tremendous job in supporting Barack on the campaign trail.
Why would gopers be oversampled?
If the likely voter model assumes conditions akin to 2000 or 2004, then they are assuming that GOPer and Democratic voters will show up in basically the same numbers as past in elections. Needless to say, I think that Democratic voters are a hell of lot more likely to show up and vote this time around.
Another myth dies!
Uncle Fester Lurks
Perhaps I'm feeling a little defensive, but I don't think anyone's crystal ball had the global financial crisis in it. This has been huge in highlighting the difference between the candidates.
I better add that I think Hillary has done a tremendous job in supporting Barack on the campaign trail.
Yes, I was beginning to think you didn't like quiet.
Chopped liver here...?
I don't think that goes with Coke...
But what the hey!
Well, they won't let him MARRY her:
The Vatican has suspended a Roman Catholic bishop in southern India after he adopted a 26-year-old woman, a senior church official said Saturday.
Bishop John Thattungal, 58, will be barred from performing any religious or administrative duties until a formal inquiry into his conduct is completed, said the Rev. Stephen Alathara, a spokesman for the Kerala Catholic Bishops' Council, in a telephone interview from the southern Indian city of Kochi.
Alathara said the bishop's adoption of the woman earlier this year had upset other priests in the Kochi diocese.
"The majority of the priests were unhappy and asked for his resignation," he said, adding that the Vatican ordered the suspension on Thursday.
He said there are questions surrounding the legality of the adoption because the woman is not a minor.
Thattungal could not be reached for comment, but news reports in Kerala have quoted him as saying, "I have only fatherly love toward the woman who has spiritual powers. This relation is giving me spiritual refreshment."
A three-member committee of bishops will investigate Thattungal's conduct and submit a report to Archbishop Daniel Acharuparambil, the president of the Kerala Catholic Bishops' Council, who will then forward it to the Vatican, Alathara said.
The investigating committee does not have a set deadline, but the Vatican has asked for a report "as early as possible," he said.
Christians make up 2.5 percent of India's 1.1 billion people, the majority of whom are Hindus.
Git your modem working?
Modems don't work. They just kinda sit there.
Just electing Obama will improve US foreign relations.
Git your modem working?
Wasn't that a Muddy Waters tune?
From 538:
Obama, at least, does not look to be competitive in South Dakota or Arkansas. It will be very difficult for Obama to win more than about 397 electoral votes, which is where he'd end up if he wins all the states where we currently have him favored,
A. Morphous
I love the McCain ads on 538.com.
Might as well put pig on a lipstick.
The Vet who did not vet... via americablog..
It is wonderful childrens tale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...mericablog.com/
Modems don't work. They just kinda sit there.
Soon they will be writing columns for The Corner.
Remember way back when we were told by Hillary supporters and trolls how the GOP attack machine would rip Obama to shreds. Another myth dies!
Uncle Fester Lurks
I was a Hillary supporter till Obama was assured of the nomination and I always thought Senator Obama could take care of himself.
Perhaps I'm feeling a little defensive, but I don't think anyone's crystal ball had the global financial crisis in it. This has been huge in highlighting the difference between the candidates.
noblejoanie | 10.25.08 - 8:14 pm | #
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Agreed but the McCain campaign has thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Barack and he has come away unscathed so far.
Obama, at least, does not look to be competitive in South Dakota or Arkansas
I guess some folks just want to stay poor.
Any early Frank Rich links? He's been on fire the last couple of weeks...
Perhaps I'm feeling a little defensive, but I don't think anyone's crystal ball had the global financial crisis in it. This has been huge in highlighting the difference between the candidates.
noblejoanie
Nobody could have predicted. . .
except Krugman, maybe.
Obama up to 87.3% on Intrade.
Perhaps I'm feeling a little defensive, but I don't think anyone's crystal ball had the global financial crisis in it. This has been huge in highlighting the difference between the candidates.
noblejoanie
Oh, they saw it comming. They were assuming they could hold it off until Jan '09.
87.8% I mean.
Steve Simels regrets...
McCain drew 4,000 people in Denver with John Elway
Elway has taken too many hits to the head.
Agreed but the McCain campaign has thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Barack and he has come away unscathed so far.
Uncle Fester Lurks
I am thrilled to support BO and he has run a masterful campaign. But this might have been a much tougher race if the economy had stayed wobbly but not completely off the rails. When folks start losing their jobs, their homes, their pensions, the smears don't stick at all.
Agreed but the McCain campaign has thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Barack and he has come away unscathed so far.
Uncle Fester Lurks
Obama08 shares with Clinton92 some indefinable quality (at least I don't get it) that drives his opponents more than a little nutty.
Oh, they saw it comming. They were assuming they could hold it off until Jan '09.
SoCalCommie - Gynecologist | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 8:18 pm | #
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Excellent observation!
It's those wacky Duggars on TLC!
Two million comedians out of work and every one of 'em's here.
:^P
Ugh, Michael O'Hanlon endorsed Obama.
I see a trend of parasitic neocons moving now toward Obama... They tend to gravitate toward people in power.
Just electing Obama will improve US foreign relations.
SoCalCommie - Gynecologist
It's a pretty safe bet that President Obama will NOT refer to the people of Vietnam as "gooks."
Oh, they saw it comming. They were assuming they could hold it off until Jan '09.
SoCalCommie
Other than Roubini, I don't think anyone thought it would be this bad and he was summarily dismissed.
I don't remember. Did anybody take me up on the bottle if Obama wins Arizona bet?
Economy, new habits, what?
Being a bit low on work, I'm driving about 500 mi per week less, myself. Don't imagine I'm the only one...
It's those wacky Duggars on TLC!
MP
She's got Number Eighteen in the oven.
Rain delay? And we have to watch whaaat?
bo: Two million comedians out of work and every one of 'em's here.
Some of us really are just amateurs.
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Two million comedians out of work and every one of 'em's here.
bo | 10.25.08 - 8:20 pm | #
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A horse walks into a bar...
AS Time Goes By or Keeping Up Appearances is on.
I think it was Kristof of NYT who had a piece up a couple of days ago about the whole world holding its collective breath for an Obama win. They really want to like us again, was the gist of it.
Nobody could have predicted. . .
except Krugman, maybe. - edub
Well, Roubini's been hollering about the potential economic meltdown for a couple of years.
So, when exactly will Chimp bring honor and dignity back to teh White House?
'Memba 2000?
When he leaves it.
They should make the SOB walk all the way back to Texas.
Other than Roubini, I don't think anyone thought it would be this bad and he was summarily dismissed.
His call was for 2007 tho?
New habits...thanks to the booming Bush economy I've resorted to snorting marijuana.
would that be so.
Ugh, Michael O'Hanlon endorsed Obama.
I see a trend of parasitic neocons moving now toward Obama... They tend to gravitate toward people in power.
Stew
The fleas are just as happy on a donkey as an elephant, and tits up without one or the other...
They should make the SOB walk all the way back to Texas.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008 |
They really want to like us again, was the gist of it.
helena handbasket
Hell, I'd like to like us again.
They should make the SOB walk all the way back to Texas.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
Hobbled, so he can't run from the angry mobs.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/nHVSrES8.jpg
Did someone say Duggars?
Hobbled, so he can't run from the angry mobs.
SoCalCommie - Gynecologist | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 8:25 pm | #
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LMAO!
New habits...thanks to the booming Bush economy I've resorted to snorting marijuana.
Uncle Fester Lurks
Welcome!
I am thrilled to support BO and he has run a masterful campaign. But this might have been a much tougher race if the economy had stayed wobbly but not completely off the rails. When folks start losing their jobs, their homes, their pensions, the smears don't stick at all.
noblejoanie
I hear you.
This election should have been about 8 years of lying, the war in Iraq, the botched war in Afghanistan, illegal wiretapping, Guantanamo, Hurricane Katrina, the U.S. Attorney scandal, abu-Ghraib, and every other fuckup from the Bush/Rove cabal.
Instead, it's about jobs and economy. Which is fine as long as it gets the assholes out of office.
But there's still something stinky about the concept that if only the economy were better, McCain might have a chance.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/nHVSrES8.jpg
Did someone say Duggars?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008 | Homepage | 10.25.08 - 8:25 pm | #
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That could be the Palin family portrait in 7 years.
Did someone say Duggars?
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008 |
That could be the Palin family portrait in 7 years.
Uncle Fester Lurks
Especially if she puts all her kids to work on it.
"Colorado's Katherine Harris threatens the '08 Election
David Sirota just scared me:
The story on the left describes [Secretary of State Mike] Coffman's efforts to invalidate roughly 5,000 registrations (depending on which source you ask). Here's the crux of what's going on:
"5,000 Coloradans whose voter status is in limbo because of [a] controversial check box...The registration form asks for a driver's license or state ID number. If applicants don't have that, they're supposed to check a box and then put down at least the last four digits of their Social Security numbers. But thousands of people didn't check the box. According to a policy adopted last year by Secretary of State Mike Coffman, these applications are supposed to be listed as incomplete...National and local voting-rights organizations criticize Coffman's policy, saying it violates other federal laws. They say Coffman is unfairly putting up barriers for people who are eligible to vote and want him to change his policy."
The check box is "controversial" because you are asked to check it on the form if you don't "have" a driver's license or ID card. Here's what it looks like on the form (which you can download and see yourself here):"
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...reatens-
08.html
Obama up to 87.3% on Intrade.
This story from about 10 days ago was pretty funny. Evidently, someone was trying to manipulate that market on behalf of McCain.
Intrade Comment on Alleged Manipulation in the Presidential Markets
http://www.intrade.com/news/
main...e=news_300.html
From what I gather, it must have cost many millions of dollars to pull the pathetic stunt.
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A horse walks into a bar... - Uncle Fester Lurks
and the judge says, "30 days for comtempt, for not asking permission to approach."
"But, Your Honor, the horse is blind ..."
You can't invade an innocent country, conjure up two "wars", and run up the deficit like that, borrowing from the chinese, without fucking up the economy.
one of the many things we were proven fucking right about
gives me no pleasure or satisfaction
noblejoanie-
I am afraid that Pa(li)ndora and friends are gonna be unwilling and unable to put the hate, fear and racism back in her box when this is over. May the Goddess keep the Obamas safe...
I think it was Kristof of NYT who had a piece up a couple of days ago about the whole world holding its collective breath for an Obama win. They really want to like us again, was the gist of it.
helena handbasket
When Obama wins, the reaction around the world is going to piss off and embarrass the Republican party to the point of tears. There'll be an outpouring of affection not seen since the last young, handsome, smart Democrat President...
They should make the SOB walk all the way back to Texas.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
do you have to point him in the right direction?
A horse walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a shot of whiskey, the bartender pours him a shot then asks "whats with the long face?"
I am afraid that Pa(li)ndora and friends are gonna be unwilling and unable to put the hate, fear and racism back in her box when this is over. May the Goddess keep the Obamas safe...
lovepat
Mooselina is going to have other things to worry about.
Like a recall in Alaska.
They should make the SOB walk all the way back to Texas.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
do you have to point him in the right direction?
rootless-e
Probably. Since he couldn't find his own ass with his own two hands and an anatomy chart.
And bikes! I'm banking on bikes big-time.
Don't be so optimistic. Despite the prices coming people still can't afford the gas because of the other expenses/costs. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me Obama is going to win the election and the hippies are going to be running the show.
New habits. I've been taking the Orange Line out of SFV into L.A. It's $2.50 roundtrip, but my company sells tokens at half price AND pays a dollar a day to employees who don't drive to work. Daily roundtrip cost comes to about 50 cents (after tax), which is less than I paid for the bus in high school.
Also, I've read 10 books on the bus since June. So, double-win.
Maybe the recession is causing people to stay home because they don't have any money to go shopping for entertainment?
"mass transit now being seen as a little bit more desirable and cool"
come on Atrios, this is America where the populace is so terribly infatuated with looking in the mirror it could never possibly do a smart thing. (keep in mind, peak oil, skyrocketing gas prices, and global warming have been well known unavoidable catastrophes for more than 35 years to which the average American has just fed the beast doing absolutely nothing to avoid the disasters.)
No, I'm positive that in every recession with thousands of workers being thrown out of work and wages tanking for many others the total miles driven from whence they divine the average miles driven, decline (in direct proportion to the financial suffering of the population).
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It's definitely not cool that I can't park at my suburban New Jersy train station to commute into New York. (There's a ten-year waiting list for a parking permit and the surrounding neighborhood filled with residents-only parking. And there's no bus to the station, and no sidewalks for stretches so you can safely walk to the station.) This kind of bullshit has to be addressed before public transportation is a viable option for most people.
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