HULK SMASHED
mine!
Yours!
yes we can!
si se puede!
Man do I like Obama. I wish we'd all vote for him. I don't understand those who don't like him, who apparently are the majority.
very nice...
Simels is a critic.
Oh, and very old.
you rang?
congrats, racy.
I was plugging for you.
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I guess I don't have the latest Flash.
its original, and thats a big thing for young voters
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Man do I like Obama. I wish we'd all vote for him.
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he's too advanced for the average murkin to comprehend
Man do I like Obama. I wish we'd all vote for him. I don't understand those who don't like him, who apparently are the majority.
jeff
It depends on what you want a president to do. If you want one to inspire you, Obama's pretty good. If you're interested in policies, maybe not.
I hasten to add that Hillary isn't any better as far as policies are concerned; my personal preference is for the wonk over the guiding light, but that's just me.
It's not a perfect world.
Was the woman from "America's Next Top Model" who has Apsberger's in that video?
i know it won't happen, but i would just love to have edwards as the dem nominee and obama as v.p.
hrc and obama were both very very good last night.
Interesting.
i know it won't happen, but i would just love to have edwards as the dem nominee and obama as v.p.
TEBB, uppity female
I'd like a ham sandwich.
A former Arizona rodeo beauty queen and daughter of a millionaire Phoenix businessman, Cindy McCain was 25 when she met her future husband at a cocktail party in Hawaii. John McCain was a 43-year-old naval liaison officer travelling with a congressional delegation, his sights already set on a political career.
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Cindy McCain, now 53, claims she has no interest in policy making - “I am not the legislator in this family. He is” - and that she intends to keep busy running her charities and her family’s company. As first lady, it is clear that she would play a key role. Acknowledging that McCain had made many enemies in Republican ranks, she added: “The only person my husband can trust is me.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
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Is the link Atriosed, yet?
Adam - on white bread with mayo? reminds me of childhood
Well after watching that I just feel like a jerky dinosaur for not enthusiastically jumping on the obama bandwagon.
i like hillary's chances better mostly in as much as she will bite mccain's ears off
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Obama is inspirational. If he brings progressives to his cabinet, I'm all for him.
Right now, I'm on the fence.
It depends on what you want a president to do. If you want one to inspire you, Obama's pretty good. If you're interested in policies, maybe not.
Well, the Bully Pulpit is pretty powerful. And I want an ascendant Congress with a descendant Executive...
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Obama/Garage 08!
We've got a real POTUS on our hands!
i know it won't happen, but i would just love to have edwards as the dem nominee and obama as v.p.
TEBB, uppity female
No reason it couldn't work 'tother way.
jeff - i don't think there are a lot of people who dislike obama, i think there are a lot of people who aren't convinced he's the best choice. however, a lot of us who feel that way will absolutely vote for him if he gets the nomination because he's not incompetent and we can't survive another rethug administration.
Well after watching that I just feel like a jerky dinosaur for not enthusiastically jumping on the obama bandwagon.
JeffCO
No; you're probably just over 40.
A good friend, years ago, worked his heart out for a guy named Walker, who was running for governor of Illinois.
Walker was another inspiring figure, at least to my friend.
Walker went to jail for corruption, years later.
Don't trust leaders, follow parking meters.
i like our chances with clinton/obama vs. mccain/huckabee
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Don't trust leaders, follow parking meters.
I will never understand people who get emotionally involved with political candidates.
i like our chances with clinton/obama vs. mccain/huckabee
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Tacitus Voltaire
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i'd like to feel confident, but living in the south and seeing lots of ignorant xian fundamentalists, and racial bigots, and good old boys who dont' like assertive women i'm nervous.
ja wohl, mein thread fuhrer!
Ja, gut, now fetchen me eine sammitch auf.
I will never understand people who get emotionally involved with political candidates.
cahuenga
Yeah.
I made that mistake years ago, more than once.
The only one I'm not ashamed of is George McGovern, who Robert F. Kennedy called "the most decent man in the Senate". And he was, too.
Well, for sure I don't wanna be a bum.
[starts to chew gum]
Jeffoco, you ain't the only one. It's a beautiful song. So is
this one, , which oddly enough also promotes unity.
NTodd - go EAT. dinner at casa Tebb was a bowl of ravioli stuffed with gorgonzola and walnuts, with a basil tomato sauce.
it was yummy.
After seven years of Chimpy the Pejorator,
It's good at least to have a decent orator.
i'd like to feel confident, but living in the south and seeing lots of ignorant xian fundamentalists, and racial bigots, and good old boys who dont' like assertive women i'm nervous.
TEBB, uppity female
I'm with you. You forgot to mention the influence of a totally corrupt national media. And Diebold voting.
I can't believe I missed Jon Swift, my favorite conservative blogger.
As far as his Blogroll Amnesty Day idea goes, I can't link to a blog that has less traffic than mine, because there aren't any.
We may be Valee readers but the SciFi show Ghost Hunters strikes us as more sad without being more funny as To Catch A Predator. It seems to us that the "nuts and bolts school" quest to prove Nessie or ghosts or whatever not only exist, but exist in the same mundane way that you or us do, is an unintentional outgrowth (or "schpeedle") of Wm Moulton Marston's "lie detector," which actually was a lie generator that pretended to science by genuinely examining certain physiological processes. Provided your pulse, your breathing, the electrical activity of your skin and so on had anything to do with lying, which they don't necessarily, the lie detector notices these and therefore spots the lie. Except that a million little extenuating circumstances apply, such as the fact that being a basically competant lie detector proctor is extremely difficult. The measurement of physiological response starts all over for each subject. A cough, a dropped wastebasket or a stray sexual thought can mean the difference between truth and deceit. As for ghosts, this demented idea that they can be "measured" like lies leads to misguided attempts to scientifically validate what amount to whole cities of straw men. The science might be there but the ghosts still aren't.
Well, one thing about Barack Obama, unlike John Kerry, he won't let himself be marginalized.
That's a good starting trait in a politician.
"senator mccain, you have proposed lowering the business tax, keeping bush's tax cut, eliminating the alternative minimum tax, staying in iraq forever, expanding the military, and bringing down the budget deficit. if you're such a straight talker, would you mind telling us where the hell you intend to get the money from?"
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NTodd - go EAT.
Actually, I just got some food and vino. Now I'm fessin' to essen!
First they came for the social studies teacher.... How long before they come for the rest of us?
Now I'm fessin' to essen!
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fessin' to fressen?
what Tacitus said
I can't believe I missed Jon Swift, my favorite conservative blogger.
Jon Swift is awesome, isn't he? He totally nailed the son of Lucianne Moneymountain.
I thought it was good, and would probably be very appealing to many younger voters. In general reliance on celebrity endorsements obviously have their drawbacks, although I only recognized three people so maybe those people weren't very famous? (Or maybe I'm just out of it) It definitely tapped into that spirit that was going around right after Iowa, which I will say resonated with me personally, but I've also read people say that's why he lost NH: to much focus on lofty rhetoric and too little on meat and potato issues.
I had to watch it again
Right now, I'm on the fence.
mer
don't be on the fence jump right in.
obama is a risk. but a quality individual.
i think this this guy makes some salient points too.
But another factor that plays to Obama’s advantage as the prospective nominee – when compared to Hillary Clinton – is that the Right’s powerful media apparatus and the Republican attack strategies appear less successful against Democrats with strong oratorical skills and the ability to inspire enthusiasm and passion.
who knows, if he makes it maybe he'll suck worse than carter. you know who is impressive? michelle obama.
I was talking to some 20-somethings this week - they were all over Obama and aghast that I somewhat preferred Hillary more. The fact that they could not articulate anything rational in their dislike of her told me that they grew up unaware of a time when Hillary was not the focal point of every rightwing imaginary evil. Their entire awareness of her has been filtered such that they believe she is somehow awful with no awareness that their basis for that is not reasoned.
Not saying there aren't clear reasons to be less than thrilled - I'm well aware of them - only that they think Obama is the Great Black Hope and Hillary is the Great Satan. I suppose to the extent that people don't vote on a rational basis, Obama wins.
I will never understand people who get emotionally involved with political candidates.
Neither do I. Which is funny, of course, since trolls loved to make fun of me for my support of Dean, and people here (I assume jokingly) put me on suicide watch when DK dropped. There's a difference between being passionate about the ideals and trying to get play for the candidate who best matches those at the time and identifying personally with the candidate.
I also don't get how people get wrapped up in movie stars and musicians. They produce a product, and yeah they're sometimes sexy and rich, but they ain't my family.
Me likee.
obama is a risk.
All candidates are a risk.
What JeffCo just said.
i'd like to feel confident, but living in the south and seeing lots of ignorant xian fundamentalists, and racial bigots, and good old boys who dont' like assertive women i'm nervous.
TEBB, uppity female | 02.02.08 - 8:13 pm |
i think you're seeing the worst of it down there
it looks much better in other parts of the country
reading voting results the last 30 years, i am reluctantly forced to conclude that we would have been better off letting the south remain independant... well, not really but they are the biggest republican voting bloc
but it's too late to vote for general mcclellan now...
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It was amazing how the candidates on both sides made an abrupt as fuck move toward "change", well into the campaign.
It was because Obama and Huckleberry did well in Iowa.
From down thread:
"Any new development with 5 or more units needs to address parking, but single lot development doesn't."
But how many developers develop single lots? Here in Nashville, developers almost always build multi-unit developments. That's how they make their money.
JeffCO - I think another factor, at least for young women, is that they have no idea how hard it was to be a career woman until about 10 years ago. They have no appreciation for feminism in general and the hard efforts so many older women made to carve out places for themselves in politics and business. They take it all for granted.
si se puede!
Dolores Huerta endorsed Hillary Clinton.
Oh, but adding: there are zoning laws around here that require garages to be in the back, not the front.
Well done......yes we can WHAT? Get Obama elected?
That's what he is most passionate about.
At the risk of sounding like Broder, I swung out of my tree today and went to the local barber shop, a notorious and well known repbli-den: happy talk about Hil, fuck me, happy talk about Hil and Obama! fuck me blind and call me Martha.
i think you're seeing the worst of it down there
tacitusL read my "First they came for the social studies teacher" link, then get back to me....
I suppose to the extent that people don't vote on a rational basis, Obama wins.
In that case, Obama wins! It's kind of like saying in 2004, 'to the extent that people don't vote on a rational basis, Bush wins.'
totally OT but March of the Penguins in on the Science channel.
They have no appreciation for feminism in general and the hard efforts
so many older women made to carve out places for themselves in politics
and business.
This is definitely our sense of the brats. Kei drew gasps when she explained that the real reason for abortion legalization had nothing to do with babykilling and everything to do with stopping the brutal practices that took place in back alley ways; nobody but the teacher had even heard of this stuff.
Obama could make a decent President.
If the nation is as pissed off as I think it is, he has the potential to be a great President, if he listens to them instead of the cash people.
CarShare/LightRail '08
I suppose to the extent that people don't vote on a rational basis, Obama wins.
And a reminder of my experience driving little old ladies to the polls last week ....
Obama is a risk. Republican Hillary is a sure thing.
I was 17 when Bill was elected, and I remember being really excited about his victory. We watched the inauguration in our civics class, and there was just a great, general sense of relief. It felt really good.
I miss that feeling. It's been so long since I've been excited about our prospects. I'm still not there...but dammit if the current occupant hasn't almost worn me down to a nub.
Obama doesn't even pretend to want a National Health Care System and the one he proposes will set us back many years. This may be the only chance to get the people a healthcare system for a long time. A viable system does not give people a choice whether or not they can pay into it. As usual he hasn't a clue or else he is pandering to the right wing who would do anything to avoid a National Healtcare System. His is a total betrayal of the people.
Springtime for Hitler on Meat The Press tomorrow:
: Mary Matalin and Mike Murphy, Republican strategists, facing off against James Carville and Bob Shrum, Democratic strategists.
sb,
i'm talking about downtown rehabs/teardowns. there are block-clearing complexes built at times, and they have to have parking, but a lot of the development is lot-by-lot.
Republican Hillary is a sure thing.
Obama's and Clinton's policy positions are well within the Democratic norm.
this is wonderful, and inspiration is certainly necessary to motivate people. But it is going to take a hell of a lot more than rhetoric to accomplish change and so far at least the policies and actions of the change prophet are not anywhere near as inspirational as the rhetoric, and are in fact substantially and significantly disconcerting in their dissonance with the rhetoric.
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I was 17 when Bill was elected, and I remember being really excited about his victory.
I shook his hand in BTV, Sept92. I came into the office the next Monday and proclaimed that I'd shaken the hand of our next president.
Certainly it was exciting, and he is definitely a charmer. But I'm only going to suck his cock if he gives me universal health care.
JeffCO - I think another factor, at least for young women, is that they have no idea how hard it was to be a career woman until about 10 years ago. They have no appreciation for feminism in general and the hard efforts so many older women made to carve out places for themselves in politics and business. They take it all for granted. TEBB, uppity female
I confess sometimes I feel like more of a feminist than many young women I've known, but not having been born with a uterus I tend to keep such feelings to myself.
tacitusL read my "First they came for the social studies teacher" link, then get back to me....
Southern Beale | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 8:22 pm | #
I was talking to some 20-somethings this week - they were all over Obama and aghast that I somewhat preferred Hillary more. The fact that they could not articulate anything rational in their dislike of her told me that they grew up unaware of a time when Hillary was not the focal point of every rightwing imaginary evil
anybody got any of that laudanum left over? for some reason i feel a little depressed...
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Mary Matalin and Mike Murphy, Asshole strategists, facing off against James Carville and Bob Shrum, Asshole strategists.
anybody got any of that laudanum left over? for some reason i feel a little depressed
Me too Kemo Sabe!
I will never understand people who get emotionally involved with political candidates.
we're probably all a bit too emotional about this upcoming election. then again, you know... people are fucking dying.
we're only gonna get one whack at it...
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Man do I like Obama. I wish we'd all vote for him. I don't understand those who don't like him, who apparently are the majority.
jeff
I like him alright, I just think I'd like him better with 8 years as vp under his belt. It would bolster his foriegn policy credentials, etc.
Dang. I was kind of hoping he'd signify on Ross Perot's famous campaign theme from 1992.
I will never understand people who get emotionally involved with political candidates.
I understand it intuitively. Our elected leaders define who we are as a nation.
i'm talking about downtown rehabs/teardowns.
OK, I was too. I guess it's different here in Nashville. No one builds just one unit here. Even if it's a one-lot tear down, they always put a minimum of 4 units back where the one used to stand.
But be that as it may, why don't y'all have some zoning mandating the garages be put in the back? That's what several towns here have done.
His is a total betrayal of the people.
plus, he eats babies and poops them out, each morning after he kills a puppy.
the man is a monster.
i'm starting to get that hopeful feeling that i haven't had since i heard dr dean talk.
that was cool - I'm headed straight to The Gap!
I mentioned on an earlier thread that Obama was in town today, and got about 20K at the rally, with another 10K people turned away.
I haven't seen anything like that (politically) in a long time...if ever.
Videos like this are usually the first sign a movement has jumped the shark.
Sorry.
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the man is a monster.
You are good at putting words into people's mouth.
Actually, any leader who refuses to see that the people have healthcare is a monster.
this is wonderful, and inspiration is certainly necessary to motivate people.
I'm not getting this big "inspirational" thing, I'm just not. To be honest, this mantra of "hope!" and "inspiration!" is starting to sound like cultish fanaticism.
I read some celebrity, I think Vanessa Williams, saying she just finished reading his second book after plowing through the first one and her comment was, "he makes me feel hopeful!"
Obama fans are bordering on self-parody.
The very first thing I hope whoever the new Chief Executive happens to be, is to do whatever it takes to stop this nation from torturing people.
The very first thing I hope whoever the new Chief Executive happens to be, is to do whatever it takes to stop this nation from torturing people.
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we dont torture heh heh heh
When you think John Legend can bring you to the promiseland, you are in trouble.
Sorry to say.
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I mentioned on an earlier thread that Obama was in town today, and got about 20K at the rally, with another 10K people turned away.
Bush or Cheney arrive in town and they need to break the law to keep 10K people from storming the site.
I haven't seen anything like that (politically) in a long time...if ever.
Cuomo came close for awhile.
Then we decided we liked bloodless wonks better.
And got slaughtered like hogs.
All candidates are a risk.
NTodd, Thread Führer
that's why you don't follow leaders and watch your parking meters.
i've determined not to say anything negative about hillary. as my wife pointed out today, even mccain would be better than what we have now.
i may not have been a voter but i've followed politics since nixon. when he's on no one is as inspirational as obama. i don't know if that makes a good leader, but as he pointed out to hillary, the words do matter.
we're probably all a bit too emotional about this upcoming election. then again, you know... people are fucking dying.
People are dying? Is that really something to get upset about? Perhaps you're being too sanctimonious.
Obama fans are bordering on self-parody.
"Fans"?
Great...we've celebratized everything that hasn't been militarized yet.
I'm not getting this big "inspirational" thing, I'm just not. To be honest, this mantra of "hope!" and "inspiration!" is starting to sound like cultish fanaticism.
Well then, just fuck it, it's no use to try.
I mentioned on an earlier thread that Obama was in town today, and got about 20K at the rally, with another 10K people turned away.
You know that's so funny because John McCain was in Nashville today, and he drew a similar crowd, minus about 19,500 folks.
laters, 'bats - off to the video store...
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See, here's the thing. When was the last time you had a political speech really enter the public consciousness? And not as joke? Bush's bullhorn moment will be remembered, but as a soundbite, not a speech. Clinton got some soundbites -- and maybe that's the best this Obama speech will end up being, but really. A full speech as pop-culture phenomenon -- this is pretty remarkable.
Great...we've celebratized everything that hasn't been militarized yet.
Welcome to the era of Shock and...E!.
if obama makes some folks in here a little nervous... imagine the head exploding realization that is going on over there on the starboard side of the political equation.
"Fans"?
Oh, I meant SUPPORTERS excuse the fuck out of me.
Our elected leaders define who we are as a nation.
I think that's true for some coming from an older more clannish perspective. But for others farther out on their own, I don't think it is as much any more. The GOP embodies that kind of heirarchical structure that holds Tweety and Timmeh in thrall to their imagined memories of big leather chairs and Aqua Velva.
I think the Dems may do so slightly less, but Obama is nothing if not the latest hero questing to fulfill the promise of the people through his personal achievement. I'm sure Joe Campbell could explain it.
i'm starting to get that hopeful feeling that i haven't had since i heard dr dean talk.
Then you're fucking nuts! YEARRARRRAGHAGH!!
i'd like to feel confident, but living in the south and seeing lots of ignorant xian fundamentalists, and racial bigots, and good old boys who dont' like assertive women i'm nervous.
TEBB, uppity female
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Thats the beauty of us as candidates. We come with our own built in excuses if we lose.
Obama doesn't make me "nervous" except for the little old ladies I know who are convinced he's Muslim and all, and living in the South I have serious doubts about his electability. I mean, with the choice between him and Hillary, I'm just glad I already voted for John Edwards before he dropped out.
I just want to see a little more substance to go along with the bumper sticker slogans.
Is anyone else as hypnotized as I am by that smoke plume in the ad over on the right side of the page?
The thing is, I don't need my president to be a preacher. I can go back to church if I want that. I want a president who has the know-how and drive to get changes made.
My doubts about Clinton weren't about her drive, but her objectives. This primary season has reassured me somewhat about them.
On the other hand, I have increasing doubts about Obama. There is his constant religious pandering. There was his willingness to engage an anti-gay activist for his campaign. And there's his talk of "reaching out" that belies his theme of change.
We don't need bury the Rethugs' ideas, not accommodate them.
I think that's true for some coming from an older more clannish perspective.
I think it's modern as fuck. We torture, and we spy on our own citizens, and we lock them up without access to a lwayer.
Ain't nothing non-current about it.
The right wing will do anything they can to prevent Clinton from being elected so she can't put a decent healthcare system in place. If the people once again want to vote for fantasy over substance, go ahead. What the heck. More people will die, go broke, live under bridges, and give up.
i'm starting to get that hopeful feeling ....
Oh, keee-rirst.
Wow. That is absolutely beautiful.
But it's exactly what's wrong with the campaign. All brilliant style and no substance.
It's also brilliant propaganda.
"We" includes the audiences. And yet nothing is promised beyond the feel good reinforcement of inclusion.
If you contrast this with an actual speech for change. You can see that while sounding good ALL OF THE MEANINGFUL SUBSTANCE IS MISSING.
This is a real call for change.
http://
www.informationclearingho...article2564.htm
What we have just watched is exactly the picture of a delicious meal, substituted for the meal itself.
It is the promise of salvation without accepting the sacrifice required to achieve that salvation.
It's MLK reduced to a Cinnabon.
Our elected leaders define who we are as a nation.
"Iron John -- Poet, Warrior, Alderman"
"when he's on no one is as inspirational as obama."
dunno. saw a bit of his wife on cspan today. i'm still stunned.
My prediction:
Clinton wins Dems
Clinton loses big to McCain
McCain leads the country into further ruin...
With American hanging by a thread, in 2012, Gore/Obama win a landslide, plus a 60 seat majority in the Senate and America finally saves itself.
Obama becomes Preznit in 2016.
That's what I think.
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Repeat from far below:
*SNURF*
Hello, peoples.
*SNURF*
Now I know why I felt "weird" last night.
*SNURF*
WARNING: Stoned on antihistamines!
Please handle with care & ignore all (or almost all) tasteless remarks!
*SNURF*
Thank you.
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I'm watching the dog show on Animal Planet. Makes me want a dog in my home again something fierce.
It's MLK reduced to a Cinnabon.
Well, that's one way of putting it.
The thing is, I don't need my president to be a preacher.
Yet we ask for an FDR or JFK or even MLK who gave good speech, which is a form of preach.
I want a president who has the know-how and drive to get changes made.
I want a president who will allow Congress to reassert itself as a co-equal branch with certain powers that have been neglected of late. I don't want a powerful Executive.
"It is the promise of salvation without accepting the sacrifice required to achieve that salvation."
bullshit. watch the speech tonight. 9:30.
A full speech as pop-culture phenomenon -- this is pretty remarkable.
Or would be if it were possible for it to happen organically. But my appreciation of the amazing grassrootiness of it all is strained slightly by the appearance of big name celebs and the high quality production values. Not saying they aren't sincere, but you can't have it both ways.
It's got a nice beat and you can vote to it, but that video is good marketing, not a spontaneous expression of the people's joy.
Our elected leaders define who we are as a nation.
Our leadership has successfully divorced the people completely -- they're not even really in control of it except through the crudest means, hence the deliberate ramping up of taser usage, the absolute disregard of protesters -- and represents only their virtual green zone.
My prediction:
Clinton wins Dems
Clinton loses big to McCain
McCain leads the country into further ruin...
With American hanging by a thread, in 2012, Gore/Obama win a landslide, plus a 60 seat majority in the Senate and America finally saves itself.
Obama becomes Preznit in 2016.
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The problem being that McCain put two more conservatives on the Supreme Court and solidified their grip for a generation.
Makes me want a dog in my home again something fierce.
I happen to have one that needs a good home. He's a little incontinent, but it's controlled with medication. He's also not very bright but he makes up for it by being sweet.
Interested?
"I think the Dems may do so slightly less, but Obama is nothing if not the latest hero questing to fulfill the promise of the people through his personal achievement."
I think we would do better with some real policies and not so much charisma and change BS.
You are good at putting words into people's mouth.
Obama doesn't even pretend to want a National Health Care System and the one he proposes ....
most local community colleges offer course in Introductory Logic. very affordable, plus a great way to meet new people.
He's a little incontinent, but it's controlled with medication. He's also not very bright but he makes up for it by being sweet.
I HAVE A NAME, DAMMIT!
"We" includes the audiences. And yet nothing is promised beyond the feel good reinforcement of inclusion.
Inclusion's actually a pretty big fucking part of the equation in a democracy. And GOTV is an important part of winning.
My prediction:
Clinton wins Dems
Clinton loses big to McCain
You know what would be cooler than predictions? People standing up and saying what they're going to do to guarantee victory.
McCain cannot win his own party by definition. We will be totally shocked if McCain gets a nomination.
The thing is, I don't need my president to be a preacher.
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After Gore, and then Kerry, I'll take anybody who knows how to act like they are alive in front of a crowd...or even on camara.
McCain leads the country into further ruin...
We get the government we deserve.
Southern Beale - no, I really can't get another dog these days because I'm single and once I get a job again (hopefully within the next month) will be travelling on business quite a bit. I've told all my neighbors they need to find me a nice man to marry, preferably one that works from home, so I can get a dog again.
I think it's modern as fuck. We torture, and we spy on our own citizens, and we lock them up without access to a lwayer. Ain't nothing non-current about it.
I'm not saying it's not current. I'm saying the identification of the leader as the embodiment of his or her people's hopes, dreams, power, etc is not modern, it's ancient, and it's dated.
Arn't all non-incumbent politicians in favour of CHANGE?
Why is this supposed to be so new and exciting?
McCain cannot win his own party by definition
The GOPers will come around. They always do. Nothing is more important than retaining po