I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
No bitching!
two?
I think it's a combination of 1)they think he'll get crushed; and 2)they recognize that he is a threat to the fundamentally corporate-dominated Republican establishment.
It is very striking, in any case.
Counter-question: of which particular Xtian denomination is Huckabee?
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The Repug establishment is freaking over Huckabee because they've decided to anoint Romney as this year's empty suit candidate that they can control like Bush. Or like they would have controlled George Allen had not macaca intervened.
Mitt Romney: The Offical Chauncey Gardiner Candidate of the Republican Party.
"of which particular Xtian denomination is Huckabee?"
Like to know that myself.
Oh what fun
it is to be
on top of the latest
political controversy.
Okay, so it ain't "Jingle Bells." It coulda been.
I coulda been a contender! I coulda been somebody!
Miss Septembers got back.
"of which particular Xtian denomination is Huckabee?"
Like to know that myself.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Ordained Southern Baptist minister.
Counter-question: of which particular Xtian denomination is Huckabee?
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Cynicus
Baptist, I thought.
Popcorn. Pass it.
Some people will fly their private planes there.
What about eel-powered hovercrafts?
NTodd, Beating Down Dana
Coming along nicely, thanks for asking.
There's a Mclaren-Mercedes SLR coming for the test fleet.
I will need to make a sign for the window:
"My dick works fine, it's a test car."
You know, Andrew Sullivan is the epitome of a carpetbagger.
"I don't understand why all of the idiot conservative bloggers are freaking out too."
Because he'd lose.
"of which particular Xtian denomination is Huckabee?"
Like to know that myself.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Ordained Southern Baptist minister
Then it's not fear of a fringe denomination that affronts the Villagers.
Maybe they fear he might take this Jesus stuff seriously, start helping the poor and making peace, maybe even open some closet doors?
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You know, Andrew Sullivan is the epitome of a carpetbagger.
But not a carpetmuncher.
Counter-question: of which particular Xtian denomination is Huckabee?
Racist anti-science blowhole.
Atrios:
I noticed that you haven't updated your amazon wish list in a while -- is it still current?
cuz, um, I'd kinda like to get you a xmas present but want to make sure you still want the things on the list.
Because the Neocons have hitched their wagon to Mr 911.
It was a hoot to see Chuckles Krauthammer describe the YouTube biblical literalist as "squirrelly"... as opposed to the Chimp in the White House who thinks Jesus is his Field Marshal
Like to know that myself.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 12.15.07 - 11:49 am | #
Southern Baptist. Jest, like little ol' Jimmy Carter.
I just read that Huckabee was a televangelist at one point.
You'd think that would be a negative....
Baptist? Fuck...
I was raised baptist. They are bugfuck nuts. the goal seemed to be to create martyrs for christ. Seriously - we were encouraged to go out and anoy the shit our of people in christ's name amen - and find anyone who did not believe in christ and tell them they were going to hell.
This passes for political "analysis"?It's simple. Huckabee is now slamming the President. Taking the Democrats side on Iraq, immigration, and global warming.
This is not the recipe for winning the GOP nomination - he's the right's equivalent of your Dean scream 4 years ago.
Maybe they fear he might take this Jesus stuff seriously, start helping the poor and making peace, maybe even open some closet doors?
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Cynicus
Huckabee got his start with televangelists. Not a chance he'll turn into Kucinich.
Got to make calls and do some investigation. Something very disturbing at my airline.
Thursday night, as I went to work, I noticed another company plane parked in an area where planes are put for "extended" maintenance ( more than 4 hours).
At the office, I learn that the plane is "hard broken", and it's full of horses going from Calgary to Japan as food, and no one is looking after the horses, they are still on the plane.
I do my flight from Anchorage to New York, go to the hotel in Lawrence, and next day (yesterday), learn from the New York ground staff that horses are dying on that plane.
I'm calling home to check and do detective work. ASPCA and PETA need to hear about this.
Bad enough the horses were going as food, but to be left to die on a plane is just beyond me.
Wish me luck.
So, how exactly did Mike Huckabee's son David kill that dog, back in the day when he was a Boy Scout? Just asking....
Quite simply. He sometimes believes in using the government to help poor people.
Huckabee is our Howard Dean. Flash in the Pan...here today - gone tomorrow. It's down to Mitt and Rudy.
from below
Moon, quite seriously, I plan to make my reservation in January (you know, post-Christmas budgeting and all that). I'm happy to have the room in my name and you can share it with me.
You can tell your family that you'll be staying with a nice respectable (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!) married woman.
But we can talk more after the holidays.
TJ, outraged | 12.15.07 - 11:50 am | #
sounds like a plan.
I would be happy to contribute though, perhaps a bit for the room or perhaps I'll bring a booze of your choice (or both) 
Quite simply. He sometimes believes in using the government to help poor people.
Snow, Liberal
Well, more than George does. Which isn't saying much, though maybe it's enough to panic the GOP.
At the office, I learn that the plane is "hard broken", and it's full of horses going from Calgary to Japan as food, and no one is looking after the horses, they are still on the plane.
Why ship them as live animals rather than meat? That makes no sense.
lordy, Barry, what a story. Good on ya.
This is not the recipe for winning the GOP nomination - he's the right's equivalent of your Dean scream 4 years ago.
This is what passes for "analysis"?
Damn, no one answering.
Can I have a Huckabee and the Canadian Nation Igloo for $500 now Alex.
I just read that Huckabee was a televangelist at one point.
You'd think that would be a negative....
steve simel
It is a negative only here in your echo chamber - plays big in the "big square fly over states" who will once again elect a President - but not Huck.
Quite simply. He sometimes believes in using the government to help poor people.
Snow, Liberal | 12.15.07 - 11:55 am | #
Nothing in his record supports that. They hate him because he is trailer trash, pure and simple.
Yup, us DFHs are too polite to slime someone's beliefs and the moral, family values people have no problem with it. Why am I not surprised.
Huckabee is our Howard Dean. Flash in the Pan...here today - gone tomorrow. It's down to Mitt and Rudy.
Potato Salad !!!!! | 12.15.07 - 11:55 am | #
And either way, your party goes down in flames.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of bigoted crazy people....
do you think they see their own image in Huckabee?
It's like their mirrors have suddenly started working and they don't like what they see.
On actually thinking about it, i figure it's simply this: Huckabee is Southern Baptist? Well, Southern Baptist to the Villagers means "white trash".
It's all about class. Case of anticipated "He trashed the place and it's not his place".
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It is a negative only here in your echo chamber - plays big in the "big square fly over states" who will once again elect a President - but not Huck.
Florida and Ohio are big square fly-over states?
like Huckabee is the endpoint
Wasn't Bill Clinton southern baptist?
Why ship them as live animals rather than meat? That makes no sense.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger
Its the way its done.
Japan cherishes perceived freshness. Tuna must arrive in 5 hours for sushi, or no good, cows must be flown in alive (Killed a Pan Am crew back in the 60s doing that), horses too I guess.
At the office, I learn that the plane is "hard broken", and it's full of horses going from Calgary to Japan as food, and no one is looking after the horses, they are still on the plane.
What a crappy story.
"Why ship them as live animals rather than meat? That makes no sense."
Raw horse meat is a dish. It's possible the point is for freshness.
It still doesn't make rational sense, though, as they could easily be shipped or grown in-country.
There's quite a range of practice under the umbrella "southern Baptist."
It is a negative only here in your echo chamber - plays big in the "big square fly over states" who will once again elect a President - but not Huck.
Potato Salad !!!!! | 12.15.07 - 11:57 am | #
Could you be any stupider?
Only if you had help, I imagine....
You can tell your family that you'll be staying with a nice respectable (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!) married woman.
hah. people don't get nicer than you. just don't try to keep up with Moon, that child can put it away.
They could also be slaughtered and the meat could be air-freighted directly afterwards.
So, how exactly did Mike Huckabee's son David kill that dog
, back in the day when he was a Boy Scout? Just asking....Which one's David?
Nothing in his record supports that
Uh, yes, it does. He raised taxes to pay for shit.
Contradictions of Resource Populism
What pisses me off about the horse deal is, I had 4 horses on my plane from New York to Dubai today.
Racers, thoroughbreds, worth a million bucks, or so someone paid for em. Two full time grooms, making sure they were fed and watered.
Meanwhile, on another of my company's planes, horsed are just left to die.
I want to make sure I have the whole story on this, but something is horribly bad.
The right blog-land isn't like the left...their relationship to their party is almost the reverse of what our relationship to our party is.
They are an extension or tool of the GOP while we are unwelcome gate-crashing barbarians to the Democratic Party.
So, since the GOP establishment hates Huckabee, so do they righty blogs.
There are always exceptions of course.
fuckshitpissgoddamnedgreasemonkeypieceofcrapscript
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Lambert, which one's David?
Tuna must arrive in 5 hours for sushi, or no good
The entire world-wide Sushi craze started when a Japanese businessman figured out how to get tuna caught off PEI flown fresh to Japan. That one flight started a cascading chain of events that led to sushi restaurants in LA, etc.
And why would they fly from Calgary to Japan via Dubai?
"Why ship them as live animals rather than meat? That makes no sense."
It is a Japanese thing.
Japan cherishes perceived freshness. Tuna must arrive in 5 hours for sushi, or no good, cows must be flown in alive (Killed a Pan Am crew back in the 60s doing that), horses too I guess.
Still, it's odd. I used to work on a tuna boat out of Provincetown. When we caught one, we would all take a fresh bite, then ship it to Logan to be flown to Japan. But horse meat is different. Ageing helps the flavor.
Uh, yes, it does. He raised taxes to pay for shit.
Worse than helping the poor, that taxing the rich. The rich don't actually mind helping the poor so long as they don't have to contribute. Hence the perennial popularity of 'voluntary charity' as the millionaires' choice of poverty relief.
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I thought y'all might be interested in reading this transcript of a conversation between Glen Beck and Mike Huckabee, along with Glens comments about their surprise meeting. In my opiion it is quite telling of Mike Huckabee who is supposed to be Christian like.
Watch his fall like Dean.
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/
12...12142007a.shtml
I'm with Jeff.
The MSM is anti-Huckabee mostly because they think, with good reason, that his chances are the worst, particularly if Sen. Clinton is the nominee. There's an awful lot of dirt in Arkansas which I suspect the Clintons know all of. Sure, there's Clinton dirt, but mostly it's Bill's, and anyway it all came out long ago.
Even if the Clinton team wouldn't use it (or be in a position to use it), this guy Huckabee simply isn't smart enough to be president. People are gonna see him as Bush, v.2. And that is poison.
We've tried dumb. Let's try something else.
There is an active UAE animal protection association. Try calling Dubai municipality.
Who farted?
What are we talking about? Taxing the freshness of rich horses or something?
What pisses me off about the horse deal is, I had 4 horses on my plane from New York to Dubai today.
Racers, thoroughbreds, worth a million bucks, or so someone paid for em. Two full time grooms, making sure they were fed and watered.
Meanwhile, on another of my company's planes, horsed are just left to die.
Congrats. You have found the metaphor for the 21st centruy US economy.
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The right blog-land isn't like the left...their relationship to their party is almost the reverse of what our relationship to our party is.
They are an extension or tool of the GOP while we are unwelcome gate-crashing barbarians to the Democratic Party.
The Regurgitors.
Those ex-governors of Arkansas keep popping up to spoil the villagers private party.
In Japanese cuisine, raw horse meat is called sakura [桜] or sakuraniku [桜肉, sakura means cherry blossom, niku means meat] because of its pink colour. It can be served raw as very chewy sashimi in thin slices dipped in soy sauce, often with ginger and onions added. In this case, it is called basashi [Japanese: 馬刺し]. Fat, typically from the neck, is also found as basashi, though it is white, not pink. Horse meat is also sometimes found on menus for yakiniku (a type of barbecue), where it is called baniku (lit., horse meat) or bagushi (lit., skewered horse); thin slices of raw horse meat are sometimes served wrapped in a shiso leaf. Kumamoto and Matsumoto are famous for basashi, and it is common in the Tohoku region as well. There is also a dessert made from horse meat called basashi ice cream. The company that makes it is known for its unusual ice cream flavors, many of which have limited popularity.
The Veterinary Services Section of Dubai Municipality has established a cooperative relationship with WSPA since 2000 in the field of animal care. This MoU will help us consolidate this cooperation and develop new mechanisms in promoting animal welfare, said Mr. Rafia.
I'm gonna take a nap.
I am Econ 102's less obnoxious older brother.
Rationality is calming.
my sister is off to see the Olympia Horse Show next weekend
she is horse crazy, always has been
Uh, yes, it does. He raised taxes to pay for shit.
Snow, Liberal | 12.15.07 - 12:00 pm | #
Under court order - after defying the law.
They're using the kind of language to describe the religious right that I steer clear of personally.
-Atrios 11:37
the villagers, ergo et al ie, the powers that be, are done with the crazy religiotards. there's a new script coming and huckabee ain't the leading man they're looking for.
if willard weren't morman, he'd probably fit perfectly the ceo profile they're looking for.
Rationality is calming.
Econ 102
Well, that explains why you keep coming here. You can lower your Xanax regimen that way.
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My little brother was the kid who always tried to correct the teacher. He was occasionally correct, but sometimes wrong.
You know the type. He got his ass kicked alot, even by people who didn't like the teacher.
the villagers, ergo et al ie, the powers that be, are done with the crazy religiotards. there's a new script coming and huckabee ain't the leading man they're looking for.
if willard weren't morman, he'd probably fit perfectly the ceo profile they're looking for
Pfui. they aren't looking for secular, they are just not looking for someone they consider white trash. Mormon they'll take, Opus Dei Catholic they slaver over.
Fundamantalist is fine with the Village so long as "They are our kind, dear".
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I am going to York on Monday, till the 19th
am visiting my sister, who works just outside as an Assistant Housemistress at a posh girls boarding school Queen Margaret's
shall be my first visit to the city
What a crappy story.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana
I know you meant creepy.
It sucks to be sure, I've just sent stuff to uppper management about it.
Damn I want PETA on this.
sheets
if willard weren't morman, he'd probably fit perfectly the ceo profile they're looking for.
fokowi
Mostly, 'cept he's from Massachusetts, and people from Massachusetts are perceived as far too liberal to be elected president, for the past 43 years or so.
(I know, I know, Romney's about as liberal as Orrin Hatch, but see, most people don't look beyond the label, and the label on Romney, if it weren't "Mormon", would be "Massachusetts liberal".)
My guess is that the GOP is really screwed, president-wise, unless they go with someone like Joe Lieberman at the convention (which I think is a distinct possibility.)
And please don't tell me Lieberman is an "independent".
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hah. people don't get nicer than you. just don't try to keep up with Moon, that child can put it away.
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why thank you, my dear.
thanks for the heads-up about Moon. 
Well, loath as I was to give Dan Riehl the hit, I clicked on the quote John Cole posted because it did make me curious. It seems the wingnuts are disturbed by Huckabee's supposed past as a "big government" goober, but what REALLY get on their tits is some comments he's made about foreign policy that sound like he'd try to be a good "Christian" and try to Do Unto Others and that shit.
Actually, both Riehl and Ace of Spades are responding to this editorial in NRO, if you're that curious:
http://
article.nationalreview.co...DQ2OGEyMzRkZmU=
Fundamantalist is fine with the Village so long as "They are our kind, dear".
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Cynicus | 12.15.07 - 12:11 pm | #
i meant that if willard had been a 'mainstream' religion, not a secular type...
"Damn I want PETA on this."
Why?
I've done some of these "horse charters", and they are no fun.
The poor critters have never seen the inside of a barn, never been washed, and are just as smelly as old goats.
Still, it's totally wrong to pack em into a jet, and leave em till they die.
I'm expecting something back from the head shed shortly either confirming or probably denying this.
My guess is that the GOP is really screwed, president-wise, unless they go with someone like Joe Lieberman at the convention (which I think is a distinct possibility.)
And please don't tell me Lieberman is an "independent".
David Derbes, back to writing! | 12.15.07 - 12:14 pm | #
ooh. interesting thought.
that'll take a bit to process...
Check out Huckabee getting the Ahmadinejad treatment on Drudge.
Hilarious.
"I'm expecting something back from the head shed shortly either confirming or probably denying this."
If it's most probably that you'll be denying this, why speculate in the first place?
In my opiion it is quite telling of Mike Huckabee who is supposed to be Christian like.
Watch his fall like Dean.
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/ 12...12142007a.shtml
Texaschilibean | 12.15.07 - 12:02 pm | #
In my opiion you need to start using SpellCheck.
Which really won't make up for your having been home schooled, but even so.....
I suspect that there's a "trailer trash" aspect to the dislike of Huckabee (they no doubt prefer old money types like Bush), but also a fear of the fact that he's a real fundy. Folks belonging to their religious base are meant to be conned and played for suckers, not elected.
Folks belonging to their religious base are meant to be conned and played for suckers, not elected.
Richard | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 12:21 pm | #
thank you for clarifying what i was trying to say...
a bloody mary?
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Hee, got a response, wanting me to call in to discuss the dead horses, a certain VP is not willing to put details in email.
I can now kinda conclude that the horses did die on the ramp in ANC for lack of care.
It's simple, Atrios. Most conservative bloggers aren't fundy Christians at heart -- they just pander to them. Huckabee scares them because he's the real deal.
David Derbes,
Romney is no more from Massachusetts than I am from the moon.
Huckabee's biggest problem has nothing to do with his faith. Yes, his "evolution is bunk and the earth is less than 4000 years old" won't fly on either coast. But his greatest political flaw is that Huck doesn't project to sink to an acceptable DC corruption level.
Also, after riding Bush's faux everyman ass for eight years, the GOP is looking for a sophisticated city slicker type who can compete against Clinton, Obama and/or Edwards.
Huckabee is one slip away from becoming a footnote.
AF
Of course they're freaking out. They've had to give lip service to these lunatics for years; but still they knew they were lunatics.
Nobody actually likes fundies except other fundies--and even that's not always true.
Lou Dobbs no likey Hucky because Hucky's not tough enough on "anchor babies"
It's simple, really: the true core of the Republican Party is a love of money, not a love of God. Love of God was a convenient way to build a "Permanent Republican Majority" by co-opting the Religious Right as "useful idiots." Republicans have NEVER taken the Religious Right seriously; if they had, Roe v. Wade would have been reversed in Reagan's first term, theocracy would reign and Terri Schiavo would be lying in a vegetative state, complete with feeding tubes and life support humming right along. No, they just wanted their votes in order to win elections and channel as much money as possible to their cronies (and themselves). They are truly despicable, manipulative, soul-less creatures ... bought and paid for by their monied masters!
According to reports I've read, cHucklebee's son and a friend hanged the dog, stoned it and slit its throat. He was recently retained at the Little Rock Airport for attempting to carry a weapon (handgun) onto a plane (he has a license to carry a concealed weapon, as does his father). Nice, huh?
Also, FYI, cHucklebee actually LIVED in a "trailer" while the Arkansas Governor's mansion was being remodeled. It was a "triple wide" (wowsers!) but talk about playing to stereotype! I'll bet he had a "cement pond," too!
Sorry Atrios, huge fan of yours, but why wouldn't you get it? I hope you are kidding, 'cause it's obvious:
The conservative bloggers are acting in chorus because they serve the republican party's money-oriented big business agenda. Mike Huckabee - at least verbally - is scorning the dominant leadership of the republican party, the money people. Therefore, the conservative bloggers have to stop him...
and that's true even if, at the end of the day, Huck will fold his economic populist tent. And fold he will, if elected. But even the tiny chance that he wouldn't fold sends shivers up their spines.
After all, we gotta have GATT, NAFTA, WTO, etc etc etc. That's what the conservative bloggers care most about at the end of the day: serving big money. Huck is a risk (albeit a small risk) and must be stopped by them, because he must be stopped by the republican money people.
We've seen over and over again how disciplined the right wing bloggers are. They can create a common message very quickly when necessary. Or, on the flip side, go totally silent when they want to tamp down a raging controversy (see Corruption Issues, Giuliani).
Their discpline is impressive - and deeply scary.
a Huckabee nomination could be disastrous for the Repugs. they rely on winning the south and picking up enough other bits and pieces here and there to win. however, Huckabee would win the south, and only the south. he'd win it by a lot, but not enough to win an electoral majority. the loose coalition they're usually able to string together would fall apart, and possibly even usher in a new narrative regarding who needs to win what for what party. i'm sure the very idea of needing to re-think any of that is too much for the cons to bear...
there is exactly zero chance that the Republicans will nominate Joe Lieberman.
Are the corporate Republicans afraid of Huckabee because they think he'll lose, or because he might win?
If they could elect Bush, they could elect Huckabee under the right conditions. To my undiscerning leftist eye, Huckabee isn't a lot more implausible than any of the other Republican clowns. Maybe the rubes will buy the "compassionate conservatism" shtick one more time.
But a Huckabee win would certainly empower the social conservatives over the Neocons and the Wall Street/K Street Republicans. And if the social conservatives then come to the perception that the Neocons and Corporatists have been more of an obstacle than an aid in pursuing the social conservatives' agenda, the Neocons and Corporatists would be totally shut out of power in the Republican Party.
It was the same 4 years ago--the Democratic hacks weren't against Dean because they were afraid he'd lose big. They opposed him because if he took the party away from them, they might never get it back.
They know the internal polling on DUmond buries Huckabee, as well it should...
Mr.Murder Says:
Its Dumond, not Drummond.
Guess you guys care so goddamned much that you get the name wrong all the time
you know right wing sites are the only one to spell his name wrong, and did so for a very long time.
It isnt helping the google searches on Huckabee now. Word is out.
Mike Huckabee should propose tax cuts for rapists, instead of freedom for rapists.
Then the GOP would vote for him in droves.
He would have lost an election in Arkansa to Jimmie Lou Fioscher, onlyh e had a compliant Scaife and Murdoch owend swath of protection from the issue in addition to Cox Cable(swift boaters) helping keep the item off the airwavesso the Democratic candidate cranked up a direct mail campaign.
Huckabee used illegal methods to block that in the postal service.
Thats right, amssive Federal Mail Fraud. Lucky for him the DoJ changed a prosecutor in his state and put a gag order on Republican lawbreaking prosecution (Balloon Juice comment)
This comes under the heading of "Simple answers to simple questions":
The idiot conservative bloggers are all wannabe Villagers.
This concludes another round of simple answers to simple questions, thank you.
...as for rightie bloggers, Huck never invokes the hate, violence, & bloodlust they are so tantric about ...
Newsweek's Michael "Spiky" Isikoff pulls his punches on How Mike Huckabee's son, David, killed that dog.
So the story is in play, and rightly so.
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