I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarSeriously?


GravatarNo way!


GravatarWell, I was right about that.


GravatarIt sounds like Atrios is into this yuppie homeownership thing.


GravatarIt's not delivery, it's DFH!


GravatarFollow the cat, Atrios. Follow the cats.


GravatarI live in the middle of beautiful, snow-capped mountains. I see deer and elk and the occasional black bear in my back yard.

And there are days I'd trade one or two of those majestic purple mountains for a decent pizza place or chinese restaurant that would deliver hot food to my door.


Gravatargeor3ge, all the places that deliver around here suck.


GravatarSilly, ask when you buy.

I had to read that three times before it made sense to me. But, it's the wine most probably.


GravatarAnd there are days I'd trade one or two of those majestic purple mountains for a decent pizza place or chinese restaurant that would deliver hot food to my door.




Gravatargeor3ge, all the places that deliver around here suck.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


One thing I don't miss about Indiana: the shitty, shitty pizza. Matter of fact, I'm in the mood for a Margherita.

[hits speed dial]


GravatarSeeing Travolta dressed like a woman gives me the yips.


GravatarThey never come up to into the hills, these guys...


GravatarOh, I thought you were talking about home appliances, not food.


Gravatargeor3ge, if only I could get a pizza Margherita in L.A. L.A. is notable for the crap that passes as pizza.


GravatarI thought he was talking about his central A/C.


GravatarAtrios is getting more and more sphinx-like as time goes by.


GravatarHoneyBearKellyGoGiants


HBO Hairspray?

My kids have watched that at least ten times. Also saw it live on stage. (????)


GravatarReverend Horton Heat is sold out here in Vancouver. So I'm online trying to buy tickets for Portland and Ticketmaster won't let me do will call, my only option is delivery by regular mail, which is notorious for being late across the border.
We're just going to drive down and if they're sold out, at least I'll have a day with my daughter at Oaks Park and a viewing of WALL-E.


GravatarL.A. is notable for the crap that passes as pizza.

Do you at least get decent sushi?


GravatarThe original movie "Hairspray" is still the best


GravatarTake-out pizza is generally bad, isn't it? I live down the street from the famous Mystic Pizza, and the only worse pizza than what you can get there is what they deliver.
fortunately, there are real pizza joints near by, but they don't deliver. And Dominoes isn't even pizza. It's some shitty pasty flour coated with red paint and cheese food.


Gravatargeor3ge, according to my friends who don't think raw fish belong in an aquarium, L.A. has excellent sushi.


Gravatar"It sounds like Atrios is into this yuppie homeownership thing."

Yuppies are back? I thought that was an 80s fad.


GravatarThe original movie "Hairspray" is still the best
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


True, but I actually really liked the musical update.


GravatarThe original movie "Hairspray" is still the best

abso-fucking-lutely

It makes me happy to think of John Waters crying all the way to the bank, though


Gravatar Take-out pizza is generally bad, isn't it? I live down the street from the famous Mystic Pizza, and the only worse pizza than what you can get there is what they deliver.

But Julia Roberts delivers your pizza!


Gravatargeor3ge, according to my friends who don't think raw fish belong in an aquarium, L.A. has excellent sushi.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.14.08 - 9:15 pm | #

I've had good sushi in LA, but forget Florida.


GravatarI get pizza delivered from Rustica on 2nd in NoLibs, but I'm not certain they'll deliver on the other side of Market.


Gravatarronjazz, isn't it always the way?

While we have no good pizza, delivery or otherwise (Papa John's is an act of pure desperation), we've got plenty of excellent Thai, Chinese, Mexican, etc. But do they deliver? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


GravatarIt makes me happy to think of John Waters crying all the way to the bank, though
virgotex


Showtime has been broadcasting his one man show lately. He is one hell of a raconteur, fo' sho'.


Gravatar"The original movie "Hairspray" is still the best"

Yes. Yes it is!

I like the music in the new version, and the girl playing Tracy is quite delightful. Casting Christopher Walken was inspired.

As for Travolta, well, how unfortunate.

Given the choice, I will always go with the original Hairspray.


GravatarThere is a great Thai place 10 miles from us. I guess I'm glad we have to call in/pick up because if they delivered, I'd have a $225k Amex bill.


GravatarI've had good sushi in LA, but forget Florida.
ronjazz


You wanna hear something weird? They actually have decent sushi in Oklahoma.


GravatarTake-out pizza is generally bad, isn't it?

Not my experience, only the national chains suck. In my town we have a number of very good take-out pizza places, some are mom & pop shops and some are local chains.


GravatarAnd the number of places that make emergency caulk delivery is very small - fortunately they tend to be in highly concentrated urban areas where they can either rent a car or use a bicycle for the delivery.


GravatarAs for Travolta, well, how unfortunate.

He actually wasn't bad, but I'd've preferred Harvey Fierstein reprising his role.


GravatarWhile we have no good pizza, delivery or otherwise (Papa John's is an act of pure desperation), we've got plenty of excellent Thai, Chinese, Mexican, etc. But do they deliver? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.14.08 - 9:17 pm | #

Lately I've been doctoring up the ultra-thin crust California Pizza Kitchen frozen jobs, and it's really impressed us as being as good as frozen can get. especially the Margherita, which if you add shrimp, mushrooms and/or diced sweet peppers is really quite acceptable.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
.


GravatarYou wanna hear something weird? They actually have decent sushi in Oklahoma.
geor3ge, almost married! | 06.14.08 - 9:19 pm | #

Everywhere? That would be very weird.


GravatarTravolta, attempting a Balamer accent was pretty pathetic. I lived in Baltimore for a while. He shouldn't have made the attempt.


Gravatar...and it takes a worried man to sing a worried song.


GravatarYou have to call Bill Clinton for an emergency caulk delivery.


GravatarAlan Steele, motherfuckers!!!


GravatarTiger using his driver as a cane.


GravatarWe've got some great sushi places in Knoxville. But I don't have anything to compare it with, so all I know is it tastes good.


GravatarDamn, I meant:

"I lived in Baltimore for a while and got to know the accent rather well."

How the hell did I leave that out?

Must have been a senior moment.


GravatarEverywhere? That would be very weird.
ronjazz


OKC, Tulsa, and Stillwater, at least.


GravatarPizza Hut is pretty good.


GravatarMrs. Peel it seems whenever you and I show up here a asstroll seems to follow us. Hopefully it won't happen this time. (knock on wood)


GravatarOKC, Tulsa, and Stillwater, at least.
geor3ge, almost married! | 06.14.08 - 9:24 pm | #

Well, that's pretty much everywhere, AFAIC.


GravatarChris, I got what you meant. It was implied.


Gravatarsettled on SLiCE, which is good


GravatarNot to say that Travolta did a bad job, just not a good one.

And yes, Harvey would have been perfect.


GravatarIf I want pizza, I make it myself. Really, not that hard.


Gravatarsettled on SLiCE, which is good

Orange?


GravatarPizza Hut is pretty good.
hole | 06.14.08 - 9:24 pm | #

Really? I think their best pizza is the dessert one with apples, blueberries and cinnamon.


GravatarIf I want pizza, I make it myself. Really, not that hard.
mer | 06.14.08 - 9:25 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I feel that way about ravioli. Haven't been that ambitious as far as pizza dough is concerned. Then again, our oven is for shit.


GravatarIf I want pizza, I make it myself. Really, not that hard.
mer | 06.14.08 - 9:25 pm | #

well, that's true.


GravatarI cooked tonight. An egg-and-everything-in-the-fridge salad. It's very delicious, especially with the herbs I added from the garden.

Then I walked two miles to get an ice-cream sundae with double fudge sauces.


GravatarMore rain and tornadao heading my way later tonight. The rate this summer has been going so far I should be able to paint the exterior of my house this fall.


GravatarI could go for some Manicotti right now...

/whistles


Gravatarmail, which is notorious for being late across the border.
doug r

you want to use my address and i could give deliver them to you?
b a c k b e a t 1 2
gmail


GravatarThen I walked two miles to get an ice-cream sundae with double fudge sauces.
Echidne


You earned it.


GravatarWhat kind of being walks on 4 legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and 3 legs at night?


GravatarVirgotex, it's similar to watching a program filmed in Vancouver, attempting to pass itself off as Boston.

It's grating and vaguely annoying.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ErinPDX: ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
.


GravatarSAILORS fighting in the dance hall
OH MAN look at those gay men go; it's the craziest show
IS THERE A SMILEY FACE ON MARS?



GravatarWhat kind of being walks on 4 legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and 3 legs at night?
gait


you


GravatarTake-out pizza is generally bad, isn't it?

Not my experience, only the national chains suck. In my town we have a number of very good take-out pizza places, some are mom & pop shops and some are local chains.
puppethead


I'll take the Mom and Pop places everytime.

The chains are awful.


GravatarWhat kind of being walks on 4 legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and 3 legs at night?
gait


A donkey! It walks on four legs in the morning, in the after noon you chop two off, and in the evening you glue on back on. What a moran!


GravatarOoh! It's the Sphinx!


GravatarMrs. Peel it seems whenever you and I show up here a asstroll seems to follow us. Hopefully it won't happen this time. (knock on wood)
Uncle Fester Lurks | 06.14.08 - 9:24 pm | #


Agreed.

Although, believe it or not, I actually saw a single post by the Swiss supermodel engineer yesterday morning ...

Hopefully, it was an isolated event.


GravatarWasn't Harvey in the Broadway production?

Travolta is just, well, unfortunate.

The original is of course the best.

Their making a musical of Crybaby too.

Drink their milkshake John Waters. He's great.


GravatarI've got a great Japanese restaurant that serves both cooked food and sushi.

My favorite sushi from there is something they call caterpillar.

I don't think this has anything to do with bugs other than the artistic arrangement which does look somewhat like a giant green larvae bug.

The place is called Ichiban

I don't think they have a web site, but here is a map to the restaurant.

http://maps.google.com/maps? hl=e...516491563535264


GravatarYou earned it.
geor3ge, almost married!


I did, didn't I?

So when will you be totally married? We should give you a polterabend here.


GravatarThere is a great Thai place 10 miles from us. I guess I'm glad we have to call in/pick up because if they delivered, I'd have a $225k Amex bill.
mer |





GravatarA clod that posts riddles for 12 year old's on a political blog on a Saturday night?


GravatarFortunately, this place delivers every time.


GravatarDrink their milkshake John Waters. He's great.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


Finally saw his "Sweeney Todd" last weekend. It was pretty damned decent. Sacha Baron Cohen as Pirelli was pretty ingenious as well.


Gravatar{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}


GravatarTheir making a musical of Crybaby too.

Adam Schlesinger from FOW is doing the music.


GravatarSo when will you be totally married? We should give you a polterabend here.
Echidne


Next Friday's the to-do.


Gravatar"What kind of being walks on 4 legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and 3 legs at night?"

Someone with four legs who has two of them amputated, and then, because their insurance doesn't cover extended stays is kicked out of the hospital and finds a store window dummy leg in the trash and thinks to himself, "SCORE! Free dummy leg!"?


GravatarAnd Dominoes isn't even pizza. It's some shitty pasty flour coated with red paint and cheese food.
ronjazz



My sister tried it once.

She said she should've tossed the "pizza" and ate the box; the box would have tasted better.

Never again.


GravatarI thought this blog was about pizza.


GravatarFinally saw his "Sweeney Todd" last weekend.

TIM BURTON.


GravatarNext Friday's the to-do.
AH. Then the previous Thursday is when we will mercilessly torture you here.


Gravatar"What kind of being walks on 4 legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and 3 legs at night?"

A human being during the course of its lifetime.


GravatarOr a morning drunk with a very long schlong.


GravatarAH. Then the previous Thursday is when we will mercilessly torture you here.
Echidne


Ah, alas I'll be upstate and indisposed. Will the previous Wednesday do?


GravatarFinally saw his "Sweeney Todd" last weekend. It was pretty damned decent. Sacha Baron Cohen as Pirelli was pretty ingenious as well.

"I shave-a tha face...."

oddly enough, I've got that at home via Netflix. I watched it last weekend too- my parrot absolutely loved it. (parrots adore high drama)

racymind was visiting and I talked her into watching it later, but I kept falling aslep the second time through. She did enjoy it though she thought she wouldn't.

No one else like Sondheim


GravatarThat's great Mrs. Peel.

I wonder if watertiger knows? She's a big FOW fan.

As far as this Hairspray movie goes I'm for any movie that casts Queen Latifah.


GravatarPolterabend is "noisy evening," literally, no? Is that similar to a chiviaree? (probably spelt that wrong)


GravatarAh, alas I'll be upstate and indisposed. Will the previous Wednesday do?

That will be good, too.


Gravatarhellloooooo
Jeffraham


GravatarNo one else like Sondheim
virgotex | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:34 pm | #


Bores the crap out of me.

Although didn't he write the lyrics for "West Side Story"?


GravatarDominos is from a former military ultra-conservative assface who noticed raw recruit love of junk food and got contracts to be the only pizzeria on-base in many places. Not exactly selling our armed forces meat that kills more than the Spanish Empire, but...


GravatarA Sophoclean riddle is for 12 year olds? That's an odd thing to believe.

It's like telling someone who wrote their Phd thesis on Poe, 'Hah, I read him in 7th grade.'


GravatarNo one else like Sondheim
virgotex


And that one is his masterpiece, imho. Though I'd love to see the revival of Sunday in the Park.


Gravatar"A human being during the course of its lifetime."

Nah. My answer is better!

You suck!

And so does your sock puppet.


GravatarA human being during the course of its lifetime.

Not me. I didn't crawl as a baby.


GravatarI wonder if watertiger knows? She's a big FOW fan.

As far as this Hairspray movie goes I'm for any movie that casts Queen Latifah.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:34 pm | #


So's Simels.

Queen Latifah was great in Hairspray. Travolta was cute ... not believable, but cute. And he still can dance, that's for sure.


GravatarAs far as this Hairspray movie goes I'm for any movie that casts Queen Latifah.

Love her. She made "Chicago", AFAIC.


GravatarDEEEEEEPPPPPPPP HURRRRRRTTTTINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!


GravatarPolterabend is "noisy evening," literally, no? Is that similar to a chiviaree? (probably spelt that wrong)

It's the bachelor/bachelerette party before the wedding.


GravatarYou slithered, right?


GravatarYeah, go kill your father and sleep with your mother or something.


GravatarI never got into Sunday in the Park. Obviously, had I seen it live it might have been different.

Love Sweeney,
Into the Woods.
Company


GravatarYou slithered, right?

No. I moved in a sitting position, very fast, supposedly.


GravatarDEEEEEEPPPPPPPP HURRRRRRTTTTINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!


Ooh, you went to the Torgo school of groping, didn't you?


GravatarThe number of heart attack patients being
admitted to emergency wards has fallen by 40% in England since smoking
was banned in public places


GravatarOoh, you went to the Torgo school of groping, didn't you?

Actually, the Hercules School of Bar Bendinging.


GravatarBesides, the sock puppet didn't even get the question right.

It's:

What goes on 4 in the morning, 2 in the afternoon, and 3 in the evening?

When Simels asked this of Sophicles, why, the young budding philosopher was gobsmacked at the answer.


GravatarChris Tucker,

It was established yesterday that Mrs. Peel is not a troll. I believe someone scolded Uncle Fester for committing the same error.


GravatarI once worked in an industrial park right next to a Dominos commissary.

One morning I came to work and the boss was in a tizzy. It seems he came in turned on the lights, and the cockroach tiled design got up and ran under the wall into the Dominos establishment. Me and bunch of other workers spent the entire day caulking the wall. That night the exterminators came and sprayed our side of the building.

Every time since I've seen their pizza I try to see if I can spot the roach legs.


GravatarI can listen to the original cast album of Company anytime.

Love that show.

Sweeney Todd (the movie) was a bit disappointing though.

Loved Joanna though.


GravatarOedipus never slept with his mother. His crime was disrespect to his father and attempted defiance of the gods. He assumed control of his father's property unlawfully but unwittingly, and his father's property incuded his mother. Freud made a slip of some kind in seeing incest in a story about the more rigid, overt days of patriarchy.


GravatarIt was established yesterday that Mrs. Peel is not a troll. I believe someone scolded Uncle Fester for committing the same error.
bill | 06.14.08 - 9:38 pm | #


Thank you.


GravatarLittle Caesars has to be the worst I have had. We had something at the office and they brought a buncho pizzas in. Cheesy grease is the best I can describe it as.

Papa Johns blech. Mr. Gattis, blech.

Pizza Hut was horrible but lately I have been happy with their product. They changed something. Still not the mom and pop stuff, but edible. I also noticed that there is a lot of of difference depending on the store you are using.


GravatarI can listen to the original cast album of Company anytime.


yup.

Another 100 People= my favorite song about NYC


GravatarFreud made a slip? Heee.


GravatarIt takes a long time to figure out which cool places will actually deliver to you.

Took me, oh, mebbe 2 minutes. Answer; none. Out here in the woods, even the sucky places don't deliver. This is what we call a mixed blessing. With no mushrooms on either half...


GravatarNo one else like Sondheim
virgotex | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:34 pm | #

That's true. I enjoy the challenge. It's not pop music.


GravatarThe Transporter movies are on FX, and they are making us hopeful for a certain unjolly green giant, who has already been handed mediocre reviews by some.


GravatarFester's been here a lot longer than Peel, if he suspects trolling, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.



GravatarPizza Hut is all that's available in my little hill country town. I get one every once in a while.

I get great enjoyment out of ordering pizza online.


GravatarMrs. Peel is not a troll.


GravatarI enjoy the challenge. It's not pop music.

Oh for Phil Glass' ass.


GravatarSweeney Todd (the movie) was a bit disappointing though.

Loved Joanna though.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


Anthony and Johanna were both well cast, I thought.

Company is enjoyable, though it strikes me as a bit dated. Probably the keyboards.

Know what slice-of-the-70s theatre I love? Pippin. Of course, I played Charlemagne in a high school production, so I'm rather biased.


GravatarI enjoy the challenge. It's not pop music.

Oh for Phil Glass' ass.

kei & yuri | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:42 pm | #

Well, I don't see what the one has to do with the other, but OK...


GravatarErin, if they've got tickets left, it's karma. Otherwise, Portland's a good start to a NW vacation.


GravatarOK, Zap. We'll see.


GravatarSorry to be OT:

Why can't local newspapers fill an entire section with academic achievements instead of the local hs athletics?

Couldn't this section be divided into academic/sports/ musical achievements?

Rant over.


GravatarAww..it's Herc and he's got the keg!


GravatarSondheim did indeed write the West Side libretto. One of his absolute triumphs, imho.


Gravatark&y The Hulk has gotten mixed reviews but my love for Edward Norton will overcome that.


GravatarFuck.

Later.


GravatarFester's been here a lot longer than Peel, if he suspects trolling, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Chris Tucker | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:42 pm | #


I have been namestolen on more than one occasion. If you don't see the gravatar and the link, it isn't me.


Gravatar"
Couldn't this section be divided into academic/sports/ musical achievements?"

You got no argument with me on that. I really hate the cultism of sports and how it has crept into everything including news.

Another reason I seldom watch local news.


GravatarFuck.

Later.


What if we can't wait?


GravatarWatching "Bobby" on Showtime- not bad.

It's about the intersections of all the different people who happened to be in the Ambassador Hotel at the time when RFK was assassinated


GravatarNow that the primaries are over, at least some of types of troll activity should decline, hopefully.


GravatarWhat if we can't wait?
geor3ge, almost married! | 06.14.08 - 9:45 pm | #

You are sposta!


Gravatark&y The Hulk has gotten mixed reviews but my love for Edward Norton will overcome that.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:44 pm | #


Love him. "The Illusionist" ... gotta see it again.

Love John Cusack, too.


GravatarYou got no argument with me on that. I really hate the cultism of sports and how it has crept into everything including news.


That's what people seem to want, though. That and nasty gossip about celebrities.


GravatarFuck.

Later.

Zap Rowsdower...True Story!


???????????


GravatarOK, Zap. We'll see.
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:44 pm | #


Zap is right. Relax.


GravatarLove John Cusack, too.

who doesn't?


GravatarSince it's Father's Day weekend, I have to let Monsieur choose the movies.

I'm suffering through "The Outlaw Josey Wales" at the moment.


GravatarSports are usually, blessedly bereft of politics. I can't say that I don't enjoy the reprieve on occasion.


Gravatarimagine that. hot food delivered to your door by industrious underlings.


GravatarLove John Cusack, too.

who doesn't?
virgotex | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:48 pm | #


Good question!

Saw Gross Pointe Blank again last weekend. Holds up.

And the scenes with Joan are beyond hysterical.


GravatarI'm suffering through "The Outlaw Josey Wales" at the moment.

I was surprised that I did not hate that.


GravatarWe went to see Young @ Heart tonight. Chorus of oldsters from 75 to 92 singing Sonic Youth, The Clash, and Allan Toussaint.

Very funny and touching.

And we had a stop and Ben & Jerry's afterward.


Gravatar The Hulk has gotten mixed reviews but my love for Edward Norton will overcome that.

That's what we're thinking; and also Tim Roth and Wm Hurt.


Gravatarimagine that. hot food delivered to your door by industrious underlings.
gary in fl | 06.14.08 - 9:49 pm | #

it could only be better if it were all free!


GravatarI'm suffering through "The Outlaw Josey Wales" at the moment.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere



GravatarGood question!

Saw Gross Pointe Blank again last weekend. Holds up.


I never did see that, it's one I always forget about.

I was thinking today that I should own The Grifters and I don't.


GravatarI dunno. Hulk was on Tee Vee lately. After watching Ang Lee's Hulk make me realize he made a pretty good movie, if you just watch the part where he breaks out.
The trailers for Incredible Hulk, not so much.


Gravatarhot food delivered to your door by industrious underlings.

You fucking elitists with your pizza.


GravatarWASHINGTON - House rank and file Republicans are tens of millions of dollars short of meeting fundraising targets set by their own campaign committee in advance of this fall's elections, according to figures circulating among the leadership, heightening concerns inside the party about major losses in November.


GravatarI had a wonderful dish of jumbo shrimp in hot garlic sauce. Delish!


Gravatar Watching "Bobby" on Showtime- not bad.

I'm not enjoying it. Is every extra in this movie a recognizable star?


GravatarAfter watching Ang Lee's Hulk make me realize he made a pretty good movie

GO SIT IN THE CORNER. YOU SIT IN THE FUCKING CORNER AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.


GravatarSports are usually, blessedly bereft of politics.

Someone tell the sportscasters.


GravatarI'm not enjoying it. Is every extra in this movie a recognizable star?

One of the benefits of having Martin Sheen as a father.


GravatarThat's what people seem to want, though. That and nasty gossip about celebrities.

In small towns though, I believe parents just want to see their kid's name in the paper, disguised as a way to boost their child's self-esteem.

It seems to be a part of the never-ending high school 'jock is the best catch' mentality. Remember, these are the ones who stay local where their high school athletic exploits give them respect.
I just think that a small local paper could take the lead on this and reward excellent, young writers, artists, scientists, etc. It would not hurt the circulation of a town with only one weekly paper.


GravatarIs every extra in this movie a recognizable star?

apparently


GravatarMonica, I love shrimp with my garlic and cayenne.


Gravatarabout major losses in November."

Soon to be known as The Reckoning.

Some young republican in his 90s with an assumed name, years from now, will be talking about how the golden era ended in a political bloodbath.


GravatarI had a wonderful dish of jumbo shrimp in hot garlic sauce.


Mmmm. Any leftover?


GravatarGromit, glad to hear you were well enough to take Mrs. Dr. Gromit on a date


GravatarIn small towns though, I believe parents just want to see their kid's name in the paper, disguised as a way to boost their child's self-esteem.

It seems to be a part of the never-ending high school 'jock is the best catch' mentality. Remember, these are the ones who stay local where their high school athletic exploits give them respect.
I just think that a small local paper could take the lead on this and reward excellent, young writers, artists, scientists, etc. It would not hurt the circulation of a town with only one weekly paper.


I see. My local free paper does have academic stories about the kids, too. And stories about their extracurricular activities.


GravatarMmmm. Any leftover?

Yes, but it's for Ouzo's lunch tomorrow.


GravatarI see. My local free paper does have academic stories about the kids, too. And stories about their extracurricular activities.
Echidne

as does ours


GravatarI once made Simel's shrimp recipe. It's excellent.


GravatarIt seems to be a part of the never-ending high school 'jock is the best catch' mentality. Remember, these are the ones who stay local where their high school athletic exploits give them respect.
I just think that a small local paper could take the lead on this and reward excellent, young writers, artists, scientists, etc. It would not hurt the circulation of a town with only one weekly paper.


i don't know why there seems to be such a resistance to intellectualism in this country.


Gravatartomorrow is Juneteenth. party like it's 1865!


GravatarYou guys can't get good pizza and sushi delivery. Boo hoo hoo.

Here in the middle of the Iowa flood, we can't get bottled drinking water. So cry me a river, build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.


GravatarWe went to see Young @ Heart tonight. Chorus of oldsters from 75 to 92 singing Sonic Youth, The Clash, and Allan Toussaint.

Very funny and touching.

And we had a stop and Ben & Jerry's afterward.
Gromit


I didn't know they were in your town! The back up band boys are my friends (surprise!)


GravatarAnd now they are going to end the movie before something interesting happens...


GravatarOh. Or do you mean the movie????


GravatarThe trailers for Incredible Hulk, not so much.
doug r


It got good reviews on Not Ebert & Roeper, although they did rip on the Hulk's "Tom Cruise haircut."


GravatarGromit, glad to hear you were well enough to take Mrs. Dr. Gromit on a date

I hadn't been off of our block since Wed, so it was kinda fun. Orientation weekend, so downtown was full of excited soon-to-be college students.

They're cute and enthusiastic now, but we'll grind that out of them in no time.


GravatarHere in the middle of the Iowa flood, we can't get bottled drinking water. So cry me a river, build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:56 pm | #


Sorry, you're right. We're just killing time. What you are going through is incomprehensible. Sometimes focusing on the mundane makes it easier for us to cope.


GravatarGromit, it's amazing how rapidly we can dull their enthusiasm, isn't it?


GravatarI didn't know they were in your town! The back up band boys are my friends (surprise!)

It was the movie, which showed a lot of your town, to good effect. I wondered if you knew the musicians. They were very talented, patient and seemed to have a great sense of humor.


GravatarCA: Bone fuckin' dry Black= water content in uppper atmosphere essentially zilch.


Gravatarcharlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:56 pm | #

Oh, and if you really want to get pissed off ... you should see what John Stossel had to say about water shortages after Katrina.

It made me so furious I wrote him a letter.


GravatarHere in the middle of the Iowa flood, we can't get bottled drinking water. So cry me a river, build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:56 pm | #

Sorry, charlie. That sucks bigtime. But I don't think anybody here is really very concerned about take-out food, it just was a chat. Anyway, very best of luck out there.


GravatarSorry k&y.

I see where Ang Lee was going with his Hulk.

The fact that he didn't get there was more Nolte's fault than his.
Or maybe not because Lee let him chew scenery like it was bubble gum.

Also my pals at AICN say that Roth steals the current Hulk which might not be a bad thing.


GravatarNo I wasn't calling Mrs. Peel a troll, I suspect it was a troll from another blog who has software to hide his IP. I just thought it strange that twice since the asstroll showed up within the past few weeks he has popped up at the same time Mrs. Peel has. He obviously is a cybernet stalker.


Gravatarcharlie don't surf, are you doing okay? I know this a Saturday night thread and we are not talking about the floods. Still, hope you and your home are not under water.


Gravatari don't know why there seems to be such a resistance to intellectualism in this country.
Mrs. Peel


Lots of C students. In 1988 George Bush was behind in the polls until he called Sept 7th Pearl Harbor day.


GravatarWOODS 60 FOOT BUNKER CHIP SHOT FOR BIRD


Gravatarat our local Juneteenth festival we bought an African drum, some earings and a necklace for Ibrahim, and an actual painting by one of the Highwaymen. it was very very hot, but one of the City Councilers (a friend of Ibrahim's) played with the kids, and they got to see the local jr. high dance troupe, and though they were too young for the pony rides, they laffed and laffed.

but it was hot.


GravatarWe went to see Young @ Heart tonight.

Lucky!


Erin PDX and Echidne


Welome to freeperville. Only the elite (wealthy) get written up in the paper for academic excellence. (Usually in college)


BTW, this sounds like sour grapes, but it's not. My kids are in their fair share of sports and it is trophy after medal after reward. Academic excellence---a computer generated certificate to put on the frig.


Gravatarcharlie, best wishes to everyone out there. It's hard to imagine if you're not in the middle of it. Really, I don't think anyone here trivializes what's happening.


GravatarJust got a phone call -- and I'm going to be doing commentary on a couple of episodes of a show I worked on when I was first starting in the toon biz. Unfortunately, I had to swear I wouldn't tell which show since the release is a "big deal." I'm jazzed -- except for the early morning make-up call.


GravatarGromit, it's amazing how rapidly we can dull their enthusiasm, isn't it? - Sallyh

If you don't teach them about Reality, who will?


Trivia: "I'd have made you coo like a bird."


GravatarCharlie, I'm really sorry about what's happening to you and your community. I wish you all the very best, and wish there was something I could do to help.

Sometimes, we have to focus on the mundane so we don't flip out.


Gravatardo the food deliverers ever have food delivered?


GravatarLindsay Lohan: indirectly responsible for RFK's assassination.


GravatarThey were very talented, patient and seemed to have a great sense of humor.
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The girls' godfather played with them for the movie (and he does some gigs). He was the guitar player. He teaches music at the jail where the chorus sang in the movie.

Also, rumor has it, you can see me in the crowd at the Academy of Music performance (I haven't seen the movie yet, but my friend, Ken, another musician in it, told me...)

I'm glad you liked the flick. And that you are healing.


GravatarI'm up on a hill and safe, but the waters are still rising and I could get cut off. At least my Internet and electricity is still on. No sign of FEMA or any Federal help.
Not a peep from anybody except Obama, who came to Illinois and is using his campaign website to ask for public assistance.


GravatarEvening,

Is he still dead?


Gravatar In 1988 George Bush was behind in the polls until he called Sept 7th Pearl Harbor day.

I always wondered if that was intentional.


GravatarI see where Ang Lee was going with his Hulk.

Sea cucumber? Sea cucumber?!

But the worst part comes at the end of the movie.

"This is the biggest threat we've ever faced, throw everything we've got at it!" And then what, three or four helicopters chase Hulk through the desert for twenty minutes.

It was bad.


GravatarNot a peep from anybody except Obama, who came to Illinois and is using his campaign website to ask for public assistance.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:03 pm | #

unbelievable. fucking Bushco.


GravatarExcellent article by Cindy Sheehan praising Dennis Kucinich for the 35 articles of impeachment on Bush, praise for Nancy Pelosi, not so much.

http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle20098.htm

Perhaps Dennis should write up articles of impeachment on Nancy Pelosi?


GravatarHere in the middle of the Iowa flood, we can't get bottled drinking water. So cry me a river, build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.

But you still have internet access and the time to bitch about people on this board?

Go fuck yourself.


GravatarIs he still dead?
DWD - S?S | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:03 pm |

it's Timmeh. he's even deader.


GravatarDWD, he is, but I think the masturbating over his corpse continues.


Gravatar
It takes a long time to figure out which cool places will actually deliver to you.


"I'm Atrios, dammit!!!"


GravatarAnyone else watching the US Open?


GravatarToonscribe: employed-ish


Congrats!


GravatarNot a peep from anybody except Obama, who came to Illinois and is using his campaign website to ask for public assistance.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:03 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Shit. At least he's doing something, but it's criminal that no one else is making a peep about it.


GravatarI think dave owes charlie don't surf an apology.


Gravatarour local fishwrap puts the picture of all the National Merit Scholars, and the Valedictorians, in the paper.

maybe cuz we are a college town, but academic excellence is recognized in our local media. the TV station also features "Scholar-Athletes" on the sports report, and you have to have a 3.5 gpa to be featured.


Gravatarunbelievable. fucking Bushco. - ronjazz

Actually, no.


GravatarBo, sadly, a lot of times, teaching them about reality really pisses them off.

I suppose that beats indifference.


GravatarThanks for your compassion dave. The whole area is shut down and there's nothing to do but get on the internet and try to get people to REALIZE how BIG this DISASTER is.

Your compassion will be duly repaid this fall when food prices triple and ethanol supplies disappear.


GravatarAlso, rumor has it, you can see me in the crowd at the Academy of Music performance (I haven't seen the movie yet, but my friend, Ken, another musician in it, told me...)

I actually looked for you in the crowd, but didn't see anyone that good lookin'.


GravatarI'm going to be doing commentary on a couple of episodes of a show I worked on when I was first starting in the toon biz. Unfortunately, I had to swear I wouldn't tell which show since the release is a "big deal." I'm jazzed -- except for the early morning make-up call.

You're talking about this while Iowa floods?

You are truly history's greatest monster!


GravatarI think dave owes charlie don't surf an apology.
bill | 06.14.08 - 10:06 pm | #

Um, yeah.

I, for one, wouldn't want to be in charlie's situation right now.


Gravatar"I'm Atrios, dammit!!!"
Culture of TrÜth


Tell them you are a friend of the Baby Jesus. That'll fix you right up.


GravatarA few more storms here and a few more floods, wild fires or earth quakes there and we are one step closer to martial law.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...0070509- 12.html


Gravataryes, congrats, Toonscribe!


GravatarIt sounds like I live in a bubble of disappointment.

I am glad to hear of other areas rewarding academic excellence. Thanks for the pick-me-up folks.


GravatarI'm up on a hill and safe, but the waters are still rising and I could get cut off. At least my Internet and electricity is still on. No sign of FEMA or any Federal help.
Not a peep from anybody except Obama, who came to Illinois and is using his campaign website to ask for public assistance.


That's cool. Didn't some Gopper say unlike the lazy fucks in New Orleans people in the midwest don't need no assistance?


GravatarTo be perfectly honest, if you did not get into the habit of laying up drinkning water and other things when Bush took office, you are behind the curve. We are poor and in the service industry and yet we are prepared for thirty days of cut off from everything but Eschaton.


GravatarI actually looked for you in the crowd, but didn't see anyone that good lookin'.
Gromit |


Here, take this $20. No, I insist


GravatarJeez, dave. Really.


GravatarThanks for your compassion dave. The whole area is shut down and there's nothing to do but get on the internet and try to get people to REALIZE how BIG this DISASTER is.

Your compassion will be duly repaid this fall when food prices triple and ethanol supplies disappear.
charlie don't surf


Deep Truth, charlie: Disaters on the internet are larger than they appear.


GravatarToons! That's awesome! And it's cash!


Gravatar"I'm Atrios, dammit!!!"

"Surely you saw me on 'West Wing'!!! Well... it wasn't really me... it actually looked like Orange Satan... but it was supposed to be me!"


GravatarA few more storms here and a few more floods, wild fires or earth quakes there and we are one step closer to martial law.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...ws/r...0070509- 12.html
Uncle Fester Lurks | 06.14.08 - 10:07 pm | #


Now isn't that a happy thought!


GravatarToonscribe, keep us updated. That's fantastic news.


Gravatardave™Š,

Unnecessary dumbness*. 15 yds, loss of down, two shot-foul, plus penalty, and 2 minutes in the box.


* Unless you are within 5 mi of the Butte fire.


GravatarThat's cool. Didn't some Gopper say unlike the lazy fucks in New Orleans people in the midwest don't need no assistance?
Culture of TrÜth


Well, lots of white people in Iowa. It's different.


GravatarBut you still have internet access and the time to bitch about people on this board?

Go fuck yourself.


Jesus Christ! Do you even have a soul?


Gravatarplus a yellow card.


GravatarI'm going to be doing commentary on a couple of episodes of a show I
worked on when I was first starting in the toon biz. Unfortunately, I
had to swear I wouldn't tell which show since the release is a "big
deal." I'm jazzed -- except for the early morning make-up call.

Muppet Babies? It's Muppet Babies isn't it? Oh god, it's Muppet Babies.


GravatarThanks for your compassion, Deep Truth. The disaster IS a lot larger than it appears on the Internet. It's in my back yard, and stretches for miles. The midwest is now the newest Great Lake.


Gravataryeah, I actually got dave's back on this one.

not to minimize the tragedy, or anything.


GravatarHow does Johnny Miller know Tiger is in severe pain?


GravatarNow isn't that a happy thought!
Mrs. Peel | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:09 pm | #
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Well it would make little king pissypants and the evil dark lord Darth Cheney pretty happy.


GravatarCA: Bone fuckin' dry Black= water content in uppper atmosphere essentially zilch.

No rain here yet, though the monsoon rains are starting to reach up into the Mexican Sonoran desert.
http://www.wunderground.com/ glob...RSatellite.html


GravatarThanks for your compassion, Deep Truth. The disaster IS a lot larger than it appears on the Internet. It's in my back yard, and stretches for miles. The midwest is now the newest Great Lake.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:11 pm | #


This is very scary shit. Seriously.


GravatarDusk fast approaching....  A balmy 105F now, the windchill makes it feel like 99F.  10% humidity.... 
Time to go outside and start working...


GravatarMuppet Babies? It's Muppet Babies isn't it? Oh god, it's Muppet Babies.



GravatarJesus Christ! Do you even have a soul?

dunno about that, but he has the IQ of a turnip.


GravatarHey, at least charlie's still in a position to communicate with us. I'm guessing many of his neighbors in the midwest are not so fortunate.


GravatarEveryone send charlie some beer.

Dave, send charlie a case of his favorite whiskey. He may die of dehydration but he won't care.

I will pray for rain and do a Rain Dance, just to cover all the bases.


Gravatarcharlie don't surf,

You have the misfortune to experience this during the period henceforce known as the Ides of Russert.

Better luck next time.


GravatarYou're talking about this while Iowa floods?

You are truly history's greatest monster!


I may be, but at least I'm not telling people in a flooded state to go fuck themselves.


Gravatar"Heather Mills Buys $5 Million New York Home"

Blimey!

The Formerly Skint Bloody Unidexter Shag Slag with the fit Minge is turning into a bit of a Nutter and Skank and nesting in The Colonies with the tossers!


Gravatardoesn't anyone here care that a political pundit died?


Gravatarwe are prepared for thirty days of cut off from everything but Eschaton. - kei & yuri

Including psychotrophic drugs, we hope.


(Your movie whorage the other night was truly distrubing)


GravatarHow does Johnny Miller know Tiger is in severe pain?

Cause he had surgery the same day, or something.


Gravatarthe Ides of Russert.

Better luck next time.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:13 pm | #
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LOL! Sad but true.


GravatarSyd, actually, no, I don't.


Gravatarpissing on someone whose neighborhood is being destroyed for their vehemence and anger.
as always, keeping it classy.


GravatarThat's cool. Didn't some Gopper say unlike the lazy fucks in New Orleans people in the midwest don't need no assistance?
Culture of TrÜth

yes, well charlie should be happy. He still has internet and phones. His town is fucked, but(chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush aka trademark dave


GravatarSo, in this documentary (Young @ Heart), two of the members of the chorus who were soloists in the program up and died during the week before the first performance. What did the group do? They showed up and performed, and included a brief tribute to each of the deceased members.

Methinks that the cable news folks who spend hours praising Russert instead of doing their damned jobs might learn a lesson from this cute little movie.


GravatarUnnecessary dumbness*. 15 yds, loss of down, two shot-foul, plus penalty, and 2 minutes in the box.

More than happy to suffer the consequences.

If I was two minutes from the Butte fire, I sure as fuck wouldn't be sitting here bitching because people weren't talking with what I wanted to talk about, I can tell you that.


Gravatar"doesn't anyone here care that a political pundit died?"

Won't somebody PLEASE think of Mrs. Potato Head?


Gravatardoesn't anyone here care that a political pundit died?
Syd B | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:13 pm | #
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Huh? Did someone die? I haven't heard a thing.


Gravatar"Check out those Sweater Muffins!"


GravatarYahoo Headlines:

"Heather Mills Buys $5 Million New York Home"

"Duncan Black Buys $5 Kung Pao Chicken"



.


GravatarWhat an asshole.


Gravatardoesn't anyone here care that a political pundit died?
Syd B | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:13 pm | #

Old news. Waiting for the next one.


GravatarMe! I'm watching the Open. Tiger's playing in such pain. What an athlete.


GravatarGoing to read.


BBL, since I can't f*ck#ng sleep.

Thanks for the company folks.


GravatarTIGER 50 FT PUTT FOR EAGLE ON 18.


GravatarHairy Muff is slang for Fair enough.


GravatarCharlie (and anyone else in Iowa or the other areas flooded), I hope you, your friends and neighbors are OK, cause chimpy is still the chimperor.

Remember Katrina and take appropriate action.


GravatarHoly Shit Woods did it for a third fucking time.

Tiger, Satan called: you soul is still his.


GravatarMe! I'm watching the Open. Tiger's playing in such pain. What an athlete.
emma in OC | 06.14.08 - 10:16 pm | #

I can't call somebody who hits a ball that ISN'T EVEN MOVING an athlete.


GravatarMuppet Babies? It's Muppet Babies isn't it?

Never did any Muppet Babies -- but I did develope and write a couple of scripts for the short-lived Dog City show for the Henson folks. Got to hang-out for a couple of days at their NY brownstone headquarters. It was very strange seeing muppets standing around and not moving.


GravatarWell I'm luck because I live right across from the Police and Fire station, with the newest, most indestructible power and internet infrastructure. People 4 blocks away are underwater and less fortunate. Many of them are shacking up with friends in my apartment complex, I'm sharing my internet with them.


Gravatar"That's propa nang you get me?"


Gravatar(Your movie whorage the other night was truly distrubing)

What movie was that?


GravatarI can already hear the dumbass right wingers saying "well they shouldn't of built farms in plains by rivers and streams. I say to them F**k You!


Gravatarcamelot querida.
Hugs to you.


GravatarMe! I'm watching the Open...clicking on the remote...What an athlete.

FYT.


GravatarYou think maybe Reverend Wright was correct? Maybe God has damned our country for all of the sin, greed and corruption that permeates from within our government???


GravatarI loved Muppet Babies, and I ain't afraid to say so.


GravatarIf I was two minutes from the Butte fire, I sure as fuck wouldn't be sitting here bitching because people weren't talking with what I wanted to talk about, I can tell you that.

And everyone in the world should follow your rules of conduct? Everyone's just like you?

Charlies sitting in the middle of a gowing clusterfuck. He got cranky. I've been through a couple of floods and more hurricanes. Lapses of etiquette happen.

What's your excuse for acting like an asshole?


GravatarCharlie, wishing you all the best.


Gravatar"I can already hear the dumbass right wingers saying "well they shouldn't of built farms in plains by rivers and streams."

Teh Truly Rich always live on a hill...


GravatarYeah, Fester, but they don't realize that flood plains are the most fertile farmlands. But you risk losing your whole crop, every few years or so. It's a risky business.


GravatarThere is a world of difference between the completely correct Rev Wright and for that matter any Black man saying "god damn America" and what Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell said. Wright left college to become a Marine and a Corpsman; he is not in the same league.


GravatarI can already hear the dumbass right wingers saying "well they shouldn't of built farms in plains by rivers and streams. I say to them F**k You!
Uncle Fester Lurks | 06.14.08 - 10:18 pm | #


Yeah.

Winter condos in Palm Beach are one thing. Poor people living in a city once populated by their ancestors, and farmers living in ... um .. farm country are quite another.

for any asshole out there who doubts global warming, I have just one question for you: WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG????


GravatarTeh Truly Rich always live on a hill...

...the better to piss on the ones below them.


Gravatar"Maybe God has damned our country for all of the sin, greed and corruption that permeates from within our government???"

Maybe.

Or perhaps all that invisible spirit stuff is just b.s. for the ignorant masses...

Ya think?


GravatarThe various Governors have declared emergencies (surely).   FEMA's on its way, right?  'Cause teh SBA is... http://www.sba.gov/idc/groups/ pu..._11264_scan.pdf





GravatarI heard that in the olden days before modern transportation, the very poor often lived at the top of the hills.

Now, not so much.


GravatarEveryone lives somewhere that a disaster could occur.

Chimpy and the Laura Bot shouldn't have built their pissant faux ranch where tornadoes have been known to occur, for example.


GravatarA'ight. I'm turning in. Gotta be a good little Organist-for-hire.

Charlie, hang in there.


GravatarYou think maybe Reverend Wright was correct? Maybe God has damned our country for all of the sin, greed and corruption that permeates from within our government???
Uncle Fester Lurks | 06.14.08 - 10:19 pm | #


Nah.

God is too busy deciding who is going to win the next Super Bowl to spend time condemning Bushco.


GravatarYeah, Fester, but they don't realize that flood plains are the most fertile farmlands. But you risk losing your whole crop, every few years or so. It's a risky business.

Exactly. They are fertile because they flood episodically.

Wishing all the best for you folks. Please let us know what we can do, because Shrub and company don't seem to have anything to say on the matter.


GravatarThere is some FEMA in WI. But many towns here opted out of the National Flood Insurance Program so those folks are SOL.


GravatarToons, I live on a hill. I assure you I'm not rich


Gravatarscout


GravatarYeah virgotex, I got cranky, pardon me. You guys have the luxury of ordering pizza and watching the Open. All I've got is 24/7 emergency shows on TV and a dwindling supply of bottled water. So excuse me, I don't really have anything else to talk about.


Gravatarhey scout!

how's the ham hangin?


GravatarWoods an eagle on 18 to take the lead going into Sunday.


GravatarHi ErinPDX!!!


Gravatarcharlie, I know, but the attitudes of many right wingers after Katrina pissed me off. I heard so many comments like "they shouldn't live their" blah, blah, blah...

Whats next should all the pretty rich people move out of areas in Cali where there are wild fires and earthquakes. These pricks are supposed to be christian and compassionate...what a joke.

By the way Charlie, as your neighbor to the North (Minnesota) I wish you and all Iowans good luck and safety!


Gravatarscout - Teh SBA can help.  No kidding.  Not just for businesses - houses too.


GravatarToons, I live on a hill. I assure you I'm not rich

We're too poor to afford hills here.


GravatarEvening, all. We had a flood in our area in 96 o r 97, can't remember which. State and Fed FEMAs were johnny-on-the-spot.

For state help you just went to human services folks, told them what you needed and they called the providers to come out, fix you up and send them the bill.

For federal you just called the number that was repeated constantly in the media, entered a claim and a couple of months later you received a check. You could use the money to repair any damage or make your property more secure against future flooding.

What's gone/going on under Bush is truly criminal negligence.
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GravatarHam is high and dry fortunately


GravatarExactly. They are fertile because they flood episodically.

Wishing all the best for you folks. Please let us know what we can do, because Shrub and company don't seem to have anything to say on the matter.


McCain would be all over this, with a plan to bomb something, somewhere!

charlie, stay safe, not sure why people are being dicks about your situation.


GravatarI live on a hill. I assure you I'm not rich

Yet once again, reality messes up a good mental image.


GravatarTiger, Satan called: you soul is still his.
Culture of TrÜth

====

It's all good.


GravatarOuzo's convinced Tiger Woods is a cyborg.


GravatarHey, there's a Deadwood ep on HBO2.

Huzzah!


GravatarToons, I live on a hill. I assure you I'm not rich
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.14.08 - 10:24 pm | #

well, of course, it's all relative. I think a historical and global perspective would have to grant that those of us who can make the mortgage, run a car and afford a computer are in the top 2 or 3% both historically and globally. This is just a feeling, without any real research, but we Americans have it pretty good, for the moment.


GravatarWe're too poor to afford hills here.
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LMAO! I'm so poor I down to snorting marijuana.


GravatarEveryone lives somewhere that a disaster could occur, and here in the Shrub Administration we're all getting our turn.


GravatarHills, hills - what are hills????

/GWPDA, @ 275' above sea level....


GravatarGWPDA...yes they can


GravatarCharlie, s'okay. I remember the 94 quake. Bad enough--and Clinton and FEMA were here that day. I can't imagine what it's like right now.


GravatarDamn, wind has picked up and raining I may have to batten down the hatches quick!!!!!!!!!!! Later!


GravatarSo excuse me, I don't really have anything else to talk about.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:25 pm | #

shit, looking at what's on TV here, I wish I had a 24/7 emergency show.


GravatarTiger Woods is golf's Tim Russert.


GravatarYou guys can't get good pizza and sushi delivery. Boo hoo hoo.

Here in the middle of the Iowa flood, we can't get bottled drinking water. So cry me a river, build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:56 pm |

Yeah virgotex, I got cranky, pardon me. You guys have the luxury of ordering pizza and watching the Open. All I've got is 24/7 emergency shows on TV and a dwindling supply of bottled water. So excuse me, I don't really have anything else to talk about.
charlie don't surf | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:25 pm |


Apology accepted. I hope everyone gets the help they need. It's gonna be a long haul. Peace.


GravatarOld Man, yeah, but I live in Sylmar. There's nothing much but hills here.


GravatarGood luck, charlie...


GravatarGWPDA, the SBA made all the difference for my family after Hurricane Celia.


GravatarTiger Woods is golf's Tim Russert.

Nah, he's actually good at what he does.


GravatarOld Man, yeah, but I live in Sylmar. There's nothing much but hills here.

And some exceptional earthquakes....


Gravatarthe waters will recede; the only damage to your puny human structures.


GravatarYou think maybe Reverend Wright was correct? Maybe God has damned our country for all of the sin, greed and corruption that permeates from within our government???
Uncle Fester Lurks

Nah.

God is too busy deciding who is going to win the next Super Bowl to spend time condemning Bushco.
Mrs. Peel


Gravatarcharlie don't surf,

got's water heater? if the muni water supply hasn't been compromised for too long, that's potable (though not necessarily tasty). Shut it off and turn off the heater. Likewise water in the toilet tank(s).


GravatarAuntie, indeed. I was not here for the 71 quake. I hear stories...


Gravatarthe waters will recede; the only damage to your puny human structures.
gary in fl | 06.14.08 - 10:30 pm | #

Wll, there's the little matter of at least 15 dead, but so what.


GravatarGood luck to all those in the mid-west. We tend to forget what you guys are dealing with.


GravatarGranted, the flooding here was nothing compared to what the midwest is experiencing now or NO or any number of places.

But the point is, the systems kicked into high gear immediately to start dealing with things. I was working at a newspaper then, and the effort to get aid information out to the public was immediate.
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GravatarIt is starting to rain at Le Mans.


GravatarHas Bush actually uttered a word about the flooding?


GravatarT. Woods | 06.14.08 - 10:31 pm | #

Oooops!

Damn you, Simels!


GravatarGWPDA, the SBA made all the difference for my family after Hurricane Celia.

Excellent!  When I worked for the Littlest Business Agency (2200 employees!) we recognised our role in teh government as teh smallest independent agency there was.  We gave people money, we hardly ever asked for it back and we didn't make anything that blew up.  The nation's Most Harmless Gubmint Agency! 


GravatarWhen did the U.S. become a third world country? Our citizens don't have potable water? You have got to be fucking kidding!


GravatarNBC playing "Imagine" to promote the Olympics.

Why do they hate god and promote Communism?


GravatarWll, there's the little matter of at least 15 dead, but so what.

but none of them were as ideologically pure as "gary in fl".


GravatarAuntie, indeed. I was not here for the 71 quake. I hear stories...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I was there! Just a kid, but I remember the couch traveled down the hall! We were outside the area of real damage.


GravatarGood luck to all those in the mid-west. We tend to forget what you guys are dealing with.

Not what charlie's dealing with, but it's a little odd all the wetness. We in Wisconsin just had record snowfall, 100 inches last winter, and now nearly constant thunderstorms the last few days. Don't have any grand explanation, but it's a hell of a lot, and I don't know if it represents some big change.


GravatarI just wish it would stop raining


GravatarOld Man, yeah, but I live in Sylmar. There's nothing much but hills here.

And some exceptional earthquakes....


The hills and the earthquakes probably are not unrelated.


GravatarHas Bush actually uttered a word about the flooding?
virgotex |


I was wondering that myself, but was afraid the word might be 'good.'


Gravatargary in fl,

The water on your brain has already done its damage. You can go now.


Please.


GravatarHas Bush actually uttered a word about the flooding?

IIRC, he sent his prayers.

Actual help? Not so much.


GravatarWhen did the U.S. become a third world country?

December 12, 2000.


GravatarNBC playing "Imagine" to promote the Olympics.

But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

I rest my case, if there was one made.


GravatarTown in Illinois where I'm from and some family still lives had a dam/water supply disaster a few years back. First relief on the scene was a batch of semis from the Anheiser-Busch plant--they ran their lines doubletime canning water and shipped it out within a day. (Whether this was corporate goodwill/charity or they got recompensed by FEMA or such I don't know).

Of course that was for a town and surrounding area of maybe 35,000. What help they can give when 83 of the 99 counties just in Iowa are already official disaster areas, and more states than that are affected, and many roads are blocked is probably a different matter.


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Winter condos in Palm Beach are one thing.


actually, the state of Florida made out A-OK in 2004. it was an election year, after all, and FEMA knocked on our door 3 times, but if you were a renter, or lived in the Panhandle, things were not so good.

but like it will be in the Plains, I bet, folks pitch in and make sure shit happens. faced with disaster all around them, the human instinct is to do what needs to be done. right here, right now.

de-politicizing FEMA should be job one for the Obama administration.


Gravataromg. i just quickly flipped over and damned if msnbc still isn't in mourning for russert. he 'carried three folded newspapers under his arm', don't you know. ...

the blowback from this orgy of narcissism is going to be entertaining as hell to read. a nyt blog already has a post linking to john cole's post about the coverage.

how embarrassing.


GravatarNBC playing "Imagine" to promote the Olympics.

Why do they hate god and promote Communism?


It was a compromise, down from sacrificing a Tibetan.


Gravatarcharlie - i'm glad you're able to keep us posted. our prayers go out to you. stay safe.

and dave can fuck off now or later. his karma is in the toilet anyway.


GravatarYes, I was there in '71.  Very, very ugly. 

A major reason why I am here now.  Forecast heat beats the hell out of unexpected earthquakes.  Or tornadoes.  Floods.  Snowstorms.  Hail.  1947 Buicks falling from the sky.  Ice storms....


GravatarWe live on an island in a river delta that's about -1m below sea level at high tide. The dike is built to take the level of the 1896 flood, plus a few extra feet.
We live about 10 feet up, above the parkade and have two inflatable boats, just in case.


GravatarYeah, well let me go philosophical for a second. Life is short and fragile. For thousands of years, humans have tried to build better shelter and better social structures to support us, so we could live a better, longer life.
But now all the money has been sucked out of our infrastructure, it got poured into a big hole in Iraq. Our National Guard, which is supposed to be protecting us at the State level, is all over in Iraq directing traffic and protecting Haliburton water truck convoys. Our local Guardsmen (a medical battalion) are trying to patch together soldiers blown apart by IEDs in a place they should never have been in the first place.

What the HELL has happened to this country? Hell, I'll put up with my town being destroyed if it will wake people up so it never happens again.


GravatarHas Bush actually uttered a word about the flooding?
virgotex | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:32 pm | #


[stage whisper] Don't mention the Flood.
//Basil Fawlty


GravatarMy ex is a firefighter. During Katrina he was with a contingent that went to GA or FL for prep to go in and help. And they all just sat there and were finally sent back home.

Firefighters are completely prepared to take a set of instructions and go in and act as a team. All over the country fire departments were ready to adjust schedules and send folks to help. But there was no effective plan to utilize them.
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Gravatarhe 'carried three folded newspapers under his arm'

And JFK used to read I believe six newspapers at breakfast. Stupid people!


GravatarWhat the HELL has happened to this country? Hell, I'll put up with my town being destroyed if it will wake people up so it never happens again.

Somehow we decided everyone's on their fucking own, like that's some goddamn ideal. Sadly, that stupid fucking decision was made in part by a lot of people who could use a lot of help now.


GravatarI just wish it would stop raining - scout

Schid, I wish it would start.


The preferred term, IIRC, is "increased climatalogical instability" (or some sich), as opposed to global warming.


And has anybody gone uplongside Inhofe's head with the clue stick of late?


GravatarPizza Bianco in Phoenix might be the best piezza pissa in America.

"But how did a nice Italian boy from the Bronx...end up making what just might be the best pizza in America in a city that by my count has more golf courses than pizzerias?"

And they don't deliver.

Nor do they allow pickup.

You have to go there...wait up to 3 hours for a table...order...wait some more....

I'm guessin' y'all know what comes next...


GravatarNBC playing "Imagine" to promote the Olympics.

Hard to "imagine there's no country" during the Olympics.

USA! USA! USA!


Gravatarthe waters will recede; the only damage to your puny human structures.
gary in fl


are you calling building WTC #7 puny? if so why did it take a Top Secret weapons grade laser made from alien technology to bring it down ?


Gravatar"When did the U.S. become a third world country? Our citizens don't have potable water? You have got to be fucking kidding!
Monica_A: Dammit!"


Our citizens don't have infrastructure, which would include strong levees.

But they have low taxes, so, they had enough money to buy and stockpile their own drinking water.

It's not Republicans' fault that people didn't take advantage of the "ownership society" when they had a chance.


GravatarHas Bush actually uttered a word about the flooding?
virgotex | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 10:32 pm | #

No, but he's getting better on the geetar. Condi shopped for shoes this weekend.


GravatarThe Road to Pizza Nirvana Goes Through Phoenix..


GravatarYou think maybe Reverend Wright was correct? Maybe God has damned our country for all of the sin, greed and corruption that permeates from within our government???
Uncle Fester Lurks


No.


GravatarSoggy Bottom Boys singing now on Movieplex - seems appropriate given the goings on in Iowa...


GravatarSomehow we decided everyone's on their fucking own, like that's some goddamn ideal. Sadly, that stupid fucking decision was made in part by a lot of people who could use a lot of help now.

There are no Libertarians in flood zones.


GravatarDHS is loaded with Bush cronies. They all need to go. FEMA should be pulled out of DHS--sorry Lieberman it was a sucky idea.

And the National Flood Insurance Program is a disaster and needs to be dealt with...That would be a start for Prez Obama


Gravatar"increased climatalogical instability"

That's it! I'm going to bed.

Atrios, I hope you get your house unpacked and are able to enjoy it. I hope all Eschatonians being affected by the flood are able to get help soon. Goodnight and god help us all.


GravatarThere are no Libertarians in flood zones.

not once the flooding starts, at least.


GravatarHoot!


GravatarThe preferred term, IIRC, is "increased climatalogical instability" (or some sich), as opposed to global warming.

Jeebus is coming any second, so why worry about it?


GravatarI slept until noon, got up for an hour, then slept until 6:30pm. And I don't even have mono.


GravatarFirefighters are completely prepared to take a set of instructions and
go in and act as a team. All over the country fire departments were
ready to adjust schedules and send folks to help. But there was no
effective plan to utilize them.


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During Katrina, Governors Napolitano and Richardson engaged in backchannel negotiations with the Governor of Louisiana with the result that AZ and NM Natl Guard were sent (the long, back way) to assist, despite every effort on the part of the Feds.  Simultaneously, Phoenix Fire Department Emergency rescue teams (who had also been dispatched to Oke City) were sent directly to NOLA - momentarily they got caught in the Federal wake at the outskirts of town, but then, because they are those kinds of people, snuck away from where they were commanded to remain and made their way into NOLA where they assisted with great fervor.  They had come equipped with certified peace officers as well, who were armed - and after some time in NOLA, FEMA found out that they were there and that some of the personnel were armed and on that basis insisted they be removed.  Shortly after the teams returned to Phoenix, FEMA went to the trouble of declaring that these emergency groups were no longer acceptable to FEMA and were to be forever refused any further duty - because some of the firefighters/rescue personnel, who were certified peace officers/US Marshalls had been armed.

Phoenix and Arizona told FEMA to go to hell.  FEMA finally backed down.


GravatarGWPDA...that's a great story


GravatarGilly Gon, you were up late last night?


GravatarI'm just hoping I read correctly that Iowa never went in for the industrial-sized hog lots. Having a state full of manure lagoons washed downstream would make a bad situation noticeably worse.

Worst thing the flood could do to me personally would be to float my grandparents' caskets out of their graves if Red Rock Lake overflowed into Knoxville. As this will not bother them in the slightest I will try to live up to their example and worry about the living.


GravatarSomehow we decided everyone's on their fucking own, like that's some goddamn ideal. Sadly, that stupid fucking decision was made in part by a lot of people who could use a lot of help now.

There are no Libertarians in flood zones.


I have a staunch Republican Christian aunt who spent the better part of 30 years as a poster child for less government and lower taxe. Now she's suddenly incensed that the government can't wave a wand and get the round-the-clock care for my 88-year-old-grandmother with dementia fully paid for by the state.

She's too damn dumb to connect the dots and understand that "less government" means less government to help her bottom line.


Gravatarseparating FEMA from DHS should be job one for the Obama administration.

Minor edit.


GravatarNational Flood Insurance Program


aka No Mega-Contractor Left Behind?


GravatarI like your attitude, Xan!


GravatarWell Xan, they do have some big hog lots here, but there are state laws that restrict corporate control of farmland, so it's not a big thing. But there are enough regular feedlots that collectively, we have really bad water even without flooding. I recall that when I was in high school, my biology professor proved, with mathematical precision, that over 50% of the water in the Iowa River had passed through some farm animal's bladder at some point. But that was back in the 70s before modern ecological consciousness had evolved.


Gravatardid anybody say sheetzes?


GravatarGWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 06.14.08 - 10:45 pm | #

That's quite a tale. FEMA is another department that's going to need a serious overhaul when Obama becomes president.
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GravatarHmm.. I was just thinking.. There are 3 families in the apartment building next door that are Katrina refugees. I bet they wish they never moved here.


Gravatar"deliverymen don't like the pee smell near the row houses"-Inqy


GravatarNow that the primaries are over, at least some of types of troll activity should decline, hopefully.
Tralfaz


While others will increase. It's never really about (the subject), it always about the Troll.


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