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rtalcott |
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Primero?
Imperator Troutski |
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Almost!
Uncle Smokes |
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Damn. Secundo.
Imperator Troutski |
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boo!
rtalcott |
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Folks, turn off your televisions. Television is a big part of the problem.
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talked to an Apache pilot home on leave from Iraq...he said at least 3 Apaches have been shot down in the last 3 weeks...but...this stuff is not being reported.
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"blow up your tv
throw away your papers..."
john prine
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Folks, turn off your televisions. Television is a big part of the problem.
No, the people on television are a big part of the problem.
That's like blaming the entire internet for child and women exploitation.
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody |
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She was a level-headed dancer on the road to alcohol
And I was just a soldier on my way to Montreal
Well she pressed her chest against me
About the time the juke box broke
Yeah, she gave me a peck on the back of the neck
And these are the words she spoke
[Chorus:]
Blow up your TV throw away your paper
Go to the country, build you a home
Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
Try an find Jesus on your own
rtalcott |
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Laura Bush recently had her hair done by famed New York City stylist Sally Hershberger, who charges $700. But I guess that is okay with the republicans because there is no hypocrisy - she is an unapologetic rich capitalist maven who is proud of not caring about the poor except when needed for personal servants.
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TV isn't the problem--go watch Bill Moyers Journal on Impeachment. Seriously, this could light a fire under folks, and you may know what a pessimist I am.
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hello moonbats 
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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07.14.07 - 11:21 am | #
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Bush said today that the current strategy in Iraq is brand new and the surge is only a few weeks on.
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heh,
this all points to two things,
rightwing whackjob media types are paid to repeat the memes-of-destruction
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the left thinks this shit is beneath them...too bad. we should refine that art and exploit it I guess
But at the very least, if the left puts the wingonutiness on a loop in just as vigorously, that should work.
Nancy Willing |
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damnit, i'm dragging up my post from below:
I've supported Kucinich recently, as I think he's needed during the campaign, not really that he's all that I'd want in a potus.
I keep hoping for President Gore, or Howard Dean. I'd be thrilled beyond belief with either.
Diane, Stateline Liberal |
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Jeez, Pretaeus is not making our guys in Iraq happy:
He [Al-Suneid, a Shiite lawmaker close to al-Maliki] criticized U.S. overtures to Sunni groups in Anbar and Diyala, encouraging former insurgents to join the fight against al-Qaida in Iraq. "These are gangs of killers," he said.
Imperator Troutski |
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Journalist Jim Miklaszewski took $30,000 from the Chamber of Commerce for a speaking appearance in which he criticized Edwards over the haircut.
In what universe would anyone pay $30,000 to hear what Jim Miklaszewski had to say on a given evening?
Can this be anything other than a bribe (or payment for services rendered) from the Chamber of Commerce?
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Anyone seen Sen. David Vitter?
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Also -- you might not have heard about this -- Howard Dean screamed at a campaign event. Screamed, screamed screamed. Out of control, unhinged, screamy-screming. Didja hear about Dean screaming? What is he, unhinged? Because, you know, he screamed at that campaign thing. Well, I heard that scream and I guess he must be unhinged, because of the screaming.
I'd like to discuss this with you at length, but I killed myself after the ninety-hundredth replaying of and analysis of the scream. That Dean screamed.
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she is an unapologetic rich capitalist maven who is proud of not caring about the poor except when needed for personal servants.
Hey, they're ok with her for photo ops, too. As long as they're cleaned up nice.
Diane, Stateline Liberal |
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Good morning, all.
The CBS station here in Los Angeles ran a story last night about a local soldier who paid a hit man $500 to shoot him in the leg (he then claimed it was a robbery attempt) in order to avoid redeployment to Iraq. He'd already done at least one tour, maybe more.
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Laura Bush recently had her hair done by famed New York City stylist Sally Hershberger, who charges $700. But I guess that is okay with the republicans because there is no hypocrisy - she is an unapologetic rich capitalist maven who is proud of not caring about the poor except when needed for personal servants.
Imperator Troutski
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ding ding ding ding ding
that is exactly where their arguement falls - along the lines of the hypocrite - rich defend poor meme.
Nancy Willing |
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07.14.07 - 11:23 am | #
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Anyone seen Sen. David Vitter?
plantsman, overly-warm
Why, you need $20?
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I distrust people who say they never watch TV. First, I dont believe it and second, if you dont know what's on TV you dont know what the majority of Americans are being told and what they believe.
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Whatever became of that Hispanic soldier from the Riverside area who got stopped and shot by police?
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So...this Jesus fellow...
How expensive is the oil that anoints his head?
I understand that when he provided the bread and fish at a gathering of multitudes, He neglected to make it "Wiz Wit."
Being the Son of God, He comes from a priviledged family and comes off as being too elitist, especially when He turned water into wine instead of beer.
Anyway, is America ready for a Jewish president?
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i don't watch tv and find i'm happier for it, but i wouldn't prescribe that for everybody.
btw, i'm sending this from my q phone...
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Howard Dean screamed at a campaign event.
it was not a 'scream' it was a yell. An excellent yell, too. I'd pay big bucks to get him on the campaign trail again yellin'. Somebody needs to do some yelling, a lot of it. Besides me, that is.
Diane, Stateline Liberal |
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"The CBS station here in Los Angeles ran a story last night about a local soldier who paid a hit man $500 to shoot him in the leg (he then claimed it was a robbery attempt) in order to avoid redeployment to Iraq. He'd already done at least one tour, maybe more."
Read about that. The soldier had served one tour in Iraq and he, his wife, and the shooter could all go to jail. The soldier was quoted as saying that anything jail had to offer wold not be as bad as the Iraqupation.
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No, I just enjoy gloating when rat-wang moralizers get caught consorting with prostitutes.
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heh my parents have gone off to my Uncle Bill's retirement party, so its just little old me here (plus the cats)
Heidi is on my lap at the moment, they run the house really heh
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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In addition to inventing the Internet, Gore also invented global warming. The Republics are just jealous of his accomplishments.
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that was a really good effort by media matters.
jim miz...very incredible and so he is now not credible.
mitt romney--dog torturer.
rudy jewels--cashed in on 9/11
john mccain--divorcee who remarried rich
bush--combat dodger, drunk
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i invented the meat helmet and the sucky blog.
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Whatever became of that Hispanic soldier from the Riverside area who got stopped and shot by police?
I thought he died. The policeman was acquited about a week ago.
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btw, i'm sending this from my q phone...
NTodd
F UR N PBLC I HOPE UR WRNG PNTS
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I think this election may be about TV vs Internet more than candidate A vs. Candidate B.
I made a ridiculus mistake the other day and turned The View on. My basic cable is getting very little use and it should have stayed that way. Nonetheless, sometimes the STUPID blonde GOP sympathizers play their talking points too early, letting everyone clearly see whats coming. EH said something like oh, let me explain what blogs are, just any individual putting there opinions out there. Of course this plays into the senior citizen GOP voters that want to believe that the News (Fox) is gospel and the internet is youthful, inexperienced rabble rowsers. Here it comes and we should be ahead of it. My lowly opinion, FWIW
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I distrust people who say they never watch TV. First, I dont believe it and second, if you dont know what's on TV you dont know what the majority of Americans are being told and what they believe.
dmark
So I'm untrustworthy unless I sit there in front of the tube gritting my teeth for hours watching all that propaganda and inane spew, just so I can know what nonsense the public is being fed? Nonsense. We have scrubbing bubbles for that, and among other names, They're called Atrios.
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anyone have any info, links to the benchmark that involves iraq oil.
this is true--original name for the mis-adventure in Iraq was
Operation Iraqi Liberty
then they saw what the initials would spell!
I heard the benchmark involves giving the profits to foreign oil companies instead of Iraq
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that was a really good effort by media matters.
Their work is amazing. I sent Justin Cole a video of a Fox program on Monday morning. Poor guy's head almost exploded.
Diane, Stateline Liberal |
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Bush and Tony Snowjob make yet more ridiculous claims about Iraq and the people who attacked us on 9-11.
It's all designed to dupe the rubes.
The regular joes out there just hear something that sounds authoritative, and they never hear the response that it "sounds like it was pulled out of somebody's orifice." (Talking Points Memo)
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Who are the insurgents in Afghanistan?
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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i invented the meat helmet and the sucky blog.
NTodd
The "meat helmet" has been around for millenia...it's called a "foreskin".
As for the sucky blog, I think it was already around as well, though you've perhaps raised it to an art form.
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NTodd,
q phone?
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody |
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Anyway, is America ready for a Jewish president?
Vote for Jesus: He's got the J-Spot!!
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody |
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The new "haircut story" is Edwards and Clinton talking while the Wurlitzer plays (literally) to "limit the debates". CNN has played that story a hundred times and just played it again.
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I watch TV pretty often. I watch a bunch of HBO stuff, Scrubs reruns, Arrested Development reruns. Sometimes stupid stuff like What Not to Wear or Project Runway.
I'll watch CNN or MSNBC if someone here says, "quick, look!" and I'll probably watch Keith now that Comedy has fucked up my TDS/Colbert viewing schedule.
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Chimpy, you've never had a cheesesteak sandwich in your life. They don't make them in Crawford. Even if they tried real hard, they wouldn't be worth eating.
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I also watch a fair bit of TV when I'm home.
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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zap - ur not the only one with a new toy! got a new cell, motorola's smart phone, for 50 bucks!can also be a broadband modem so i can do internet on the road...
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We have scrubbing bubbles for that, and among other names, They're called Atrios.
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I like TDS and KO - worth the cable bill.
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motorola's smart phone, for 50 bucks!
50 bucks plus what, first born? 
Diane, Stateline Liberal |
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the haircut story is much like the 'scream' story.
but hillary approaching edwards thinking she wasn't on air is very interesting.
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The story that resonates loudly with my local Joe Six-pack neighbors is the Iraqi parliament month-long vacation. Dem pols would be wise to mention this often. Too hot for Iraqi leaders to work in an air conditioned building, but not too hot for our sons and daughters to patrol in full armor while people try to kill them?
Imperator Troutski |
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my brother got a snazzy new phone a couple of weeks ago
a Nokia N95, its so cool
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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Zap -- did you buy a house?
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The key media play the democrats would make if they were a credible party, and the blogs/grass-roots need to make since the democrats are not credible is to chain Bush firmly around the neck of every prominent republican candidate.
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I should be better off with out teevee though because I haven't been getting any sleep since TCM has started kicking ass with their late nite scheduling.
Nancy Willing |
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think i'll get my jog in while it's still so beautiful out. Have a good one, all
Diane, Stateline Liberal |
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Saturday morning Baby blogging
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The Met sees opportunity cost
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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motorola's smart phone, for 50 bucks!can also be a broadband modem so i can do internet on the road...
Noice! OMG BFF LOL, etc.
Granted, my "new toy" is 95 years old...
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody |
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yes -- troutski.
no vote no recess.
troops get tours extended, Senators should stay in DC and play out the Gooper filibuster.
And why is the F word not even mentioned in NYTimes and other stories when it says the Dems in Senate didnt have the votes to pass the withdrawal measure. they had the majority in favor but couldnt get to 60 to shut off the FILIBUSTER by the GOP and Liebermouth.
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2008 will most certainly be the year for hold-yer-nose and vote for the DEM nominee.
:-(
Nancy Willing |
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Iraqi government is taking the month of August off. DEMs need to keep that out there.
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I watch a lot of the History Channel, hoping there'll be the perfect installment of Modern Marvels with R. Lee Ermy demonstrating the Da Vinci-designed Masonic UFO that secretly won WWII for the umpteenth time.
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Mr. Kerry made the mistake of ordering a cheese steak last August and requesting Swiss cheese
Just think how different things would be
If Kerry'd chosen Whiz,
Iraq resolved, no wiretaps,
Al Qaeda out of biz.
Or even better, if he'd ordered
Just a bag of Cheetos:
Supreme Court trophy someone else's
And not Sam Alito's.
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did you buy a house?
Yes!
Seller agreed to our offer this morning. We'll be closing by the end of the month.
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody |
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The story that resonates loudly with my local Joe Six-pack neighbors is the Iraqi parliament month-long vacation. Dem pols would be wise to mention this often. Too hot for Iraqi leaders to work in an air conditioned building, but not too hot for our sons and daughters to patrol in full armor while people try to kill them?
Imperator Troutski
I think I would spin it another way...by saying obviously the Iraqi Parliament is taking their cues about how royalty should behave by observing that Bush takes off a month every August to spend at his fake ranch, while our sons and daughters patrol Iraq in full armor (if they are lucky enough to have it) in the heat with people trying to kill them.
Never miss an opportunity to point out what a shitheel Bush is.
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Waiting to be watched on the Trout-o-vision: Season 3 of Deadwood. I can't wait to watch those fucking cocksuckers with their fuzzy morality.
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Public health doctors are bracing themselves for a further decline in public confidence in the MMR jab as the long-awaited hearing into alleged serious professional misconduct by Andrew Wakefield and two other doctors gets under way at the General Medical Council on Monday.
Mr Wakefield, the gastroenterologist whose theory of a link between the combined measles, mumps and rubella jab and autism in children has been firmly discounted by most of the medical establishment, will not be on trial for his views. But anti-vaccine pressure groups and some parents of autistic children believe he is being victimised for them. The GMC hearings, scheduled to last 14 weeks, are likely to reignite an impassioned debate which the public health community had hoped would fade away.
http://society.guardian.co.uk/
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Moonbootica, Graduate |
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In our house, the TV is mainly a source of trashy cartoons to keep our son occupied when we have other things to do and can't pay attention to him. On the occasions that I do watch, it's always either a PBS documentary of some kind or something on the Discovery or Science channels, like Mythbusters or Survivorman. I guess the wife also watches local news and trashy TV entertainment tabloids. I avoid that shit by hiding in the kitchen.
CNN and the like, though, I only ever watch when there is a major disaster, not counting the Bush presidency.
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page A5 in NYTimes has a pic of Bush and Darth Cheney listening to commanders in Iraq on video conference.
Cheney is ASLEEP!
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Saturday morning Baby blogging
FireFox®
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little sweetie!
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Uncle Smokes
My BIL has recently become obsessed with the Military Channel. I spend three days a week down there. Can't tell you how much I enjoy the hours of stuff blowing up while I'm trying to read/study/sleep.
BTW -- you recommended 2 Zappa albums I should check out; I didn't write them down but if you'll tell me again I'll get one of them off iTunes right now (assuming it's there). kthx.
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couldnt get to 60 to shut off the FILIBUSTER by the GOP and Liebermouth.
Remember the days when the filibuster was considered the height of evil parliamentary tricks -- back in the day when the Repugs had the majority?
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kind of like the swiftboaters were just "honest soldiers" but the firefighters are "partisan democrats"
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UK TV Drama is doing a Doctor Who Omnibus heh
Moonbootica, Graduate |
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hey trout---gota love it when Wu says--zwergen cocksucker
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Seller agreed to our offer this morning. We'll be closing by the end of the month.
Zap Rowsdower, Homebody
Yipppeeeee! Many felicitations.
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Zap, I used to own a lovely 1912 house. Ancient trees in the yard, beveled glass windows, hardwood floors. Plaster walls, unfortunately still crack often and foundations still settle, even after ninety-five years. Loved the place, though.
Congrats!
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50 bucks plus what, first born?
In that case, I got a great deal because I ain't got and never will have a first born.
But no, it's normally 399, VZ sells it for 239 with a new contract, the dude gave me 30 bucks off (making it the same price as his silver version), I had 100 bucks credit since my contract had a "New every 2" dealio (my previous phone was almost 4 years old), and I get a 50 dollar rebate. I have unlimited basic data service and for 15 bucks a month I can add the broadband stuff (will later when I am out and about getting arrested).
Best thing is that it gets way better reception at the house than my old phone...
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page A5 in NYTimes has a pic of Bush and Darth Cheney listening to commanders in Iraq on video conference.
Cheney is ASLEEP!
peterboy
There's no point in him being awake, since no amount of factual evidence will change his course anyway.
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Never miss an opportunity to point out what a shitheel Bush is.
Jennifer
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last year Bushie limited his TX time to a week.
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media matters--
filibuster by Dems
for GOP it is just the Dems couldnt get the votes to pass.
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Oh, I'm back to my laptop now that some installs are finished. I haven't figured out how to copy and paste on the phone yet, plus it's way easier to type on a fullsized keyboard.
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last year Bushie limited his TX time to a week.
Nancy Willing
That's because it was an election year.
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you recommended 2 Zappa albums I should check out;
Ohh! Ooh! I want to recommend Zappa albums, too!
Hot Rats
Burnt Weenie Sandwich
One Size Fits All
Waka/Jawaka
Those are all in pretty heavy rotation on my Ipod.
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Remember the days when the filibuster was considered the height of evil parliamentary tricks -- back in the day when the Repugs had the majority?
Now it is the Greatest Good and Defense Against The Overreaching Majority.
But hell, I defended the filibuster then and I'll do it now. It's one reason I love the Senate: being in the minority isn't fatal.
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In our house, the TV is mainly a source of trashy cartoons
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Another right on target hit from Media Matters.
The weasels of the MSM are starting to feel the heat.
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my dad controls the TV mostly and he watches an awful lot of sport
at the moment is the Le Tour de France
but as he and my mum are out for the evening I have it all to myself
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This morning I woke up and saw the CNN webpage headline as "Putin Withdraws Russia from Arms Treaty." Pretty important news. Doesn seem too good for Dear Leader who just had Pootie-poot over to his lil camp in Kennebunkport for friendly chat and negotiations. Fortunately, that unpatriotic headline was quickly changed to "3rd Doctor Arrested in UK Terror Plot." Much more of a useless fear generating and therefore patriotic headline for the idiot masses to think about, eh?.
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But hell, I defended the filibuster then and I'll do it now. It's one reason I love the Senate: being in the minority isn't fatal.
NTodd, Bilker
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yur so clear-haided!
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I watched a couple of episodes of Code Monkeys last night. It was kinda funny, although more scatological than I usually prefer. I'll probably try it once more to see if I "get" it any differently.
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Uncle Smokes: tyftcd.
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Thanks, blerb. If I was going to get just one, what would it be?
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Picking up on that not trusting people who say they don't watch TV...
Get over yourself.
TV in its current form is a pretty shitty, non-interactive medium. Sure most people still use that channel than they do blogs, but it turns out I get more than enough exposure to TV through these here blog things (thanks, Crooks and Liars, et alia).
Anyway, I really don't watch TV because I can't get any reception w/o satellite, and I canceled that 18 months ago. Sure, if CNN's on in the airport bar I'll see it, but "watching" generally means "on a regular basis" in this context. C'mon...
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and remember, most of your campaign contributions to your favortie candidates are going to be spent...
....on the meadea
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BTW -- you recommended 2 Zappa albums I should check out; I didn't write them down but if you'll tell me again I'll get one of them off iTunes right now (assuming it's there). kthx.
V for Virginia
I can't remember, either, but I usually recommend Over-Nite Sensation and Apostrophe, as they are the most accessible and have all the elements that make up a Zappa release: Outstanding musicians, unusual compositions, and humor both silly and biting.
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Hot Rats, I guess. That one's a classic.
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I am going to go wade in the creek and let the dog paddle a bit. bbl
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yur so clear-haided!
That might be the first time that I've ever been accused of that.
[shoves more cobwebs into haid]
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I defended the filibuster then and I'll do it now.
My sentiments exactly.
It's not the filibuster I object to. It's the hypocrisy in the reporting when the party doing the filibustering changes.
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"Fly Fucking", or the French language equivalent, was a favorite private insult my French co-workers used for their bosses whenever they blabbed on and on about nothing during meetings.
Happy Bastille Day.
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toonscribe@ 11:49..filibuster reporting double standard---exactly.
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.Over-Nite Sensation and Apostrophe, as they are the most accessible and have all the elements that make up a Zappa release: Outstanding musicians, unusual compositions, and humor both silly and biting.
Not to mention two of the most amazing guitar solos ever recorded, on Stinkfoot and 50/50.
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Uncle Smokes: tyftcd.
The Kenosha Kid
It only took me a second to figure that out. I've assimilated texting culture. Heaven help me--now I'm going to have to go outside and yell at myself to get off my lawn!
[Oh, and your welcome, Kenosha Kid.]
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I guess I recommended the albums I did because they are works that tend to break the typecasting of Zappa as a guy who was mostly about his comedy shtick.
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Off to look for Apostrophe.
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Enculage de mouches (learned via google 1 minute ago)
Take that Moscowitz.
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British con artist Howard Welsh toured US cities like a modern-day snake oil salesman, targeting Christians with bogus investment plans and scamming his way to some £16m.
But his face ended up on the FBI's Most Wanted website and despite crisscrossing continents while on the run, he was today starting a 20-year stretch in a US jail.
Most of the 900-odd victims of Liverpool-born Welsh, 63, had one thing in common: they fell victim to his callous manipulation of their religious faith.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/
st...2126324,00.html
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Hitchens is a monster, of course, but you have to love it when he battles with an even more unlovely monster, in this case Michael Gerson:
"In a world without God," [Gerson] writes, "this desire for love and purpose is a cruel joke of nature -- imprinted by evolution but designed for disappointment." Again, he substitutes the wish for the thought. We very probably are, as he admits, not the designed objects of the Big Bang or of the process of natural selection. But this sober conclusion, objective as it is, is surely preferable to the delusion that we have been created diseased, by a capricious despot, and then abruptly commanded to be whole and well, on pain of terror and torture. That sick joke is one that we can cease to find impressive, that belongs in the infancy of our species, and gives a false picture of reality that we would do well to outgrow.
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It's not the filibuster I object to. It's the hypocrisy in the reporting when the party doing the filibustering changes.
I'm with you there. When the Dems were in the minority using all the defenses they could, they were vilified by the GOP and media as trying to stomp on The Will of The People. Now...?
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targeting Christians with bogus investment plans and scamming his way to some £16m.
What an amateur. When you do this in the US, you usually wind up with your own tv network and university.
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Not to mention two of the most amazing guitar solos ever recorded, on Stinkfoot and 50/50.
blerb
The solo on "Zombie Woof" is my all-time favorite guitar solo.
There's a short documentary I just saw that talks about the two albums. I was chartreuse with envy watching Dweezil at the mixing board, playing with the tracks just for the hell of it.
[Learned something I didn't know: The background vocals on Over-Nite Sensation were Tina Turner and the Ikettes.]
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Crap. iTunes is not coming through for me on the Zappa front.
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"In a world without God," [Gerson] writes, "this desire for love and purpose is a cruel joke of nature -- imprinted by evolution but designed for disappointment."
I'll warrant that there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in Gerson's philosophy. I don't ever understand how these poeple, in ruminating on the question of ultimate purpose, can get any real philosophical satisfaction by merely deferring the matter up one level in the cosmic food chain. Why does God Exist, Mr. Gerson? Who created Him?
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My all-time favorite guitar solo is Robert Fripp on Bowie's "Teenage Wildlife"
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07.14.07 - 12:01 pm | #
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Take that Moscowitz.
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The handle is, to those who would abhor it, an
Old fashioned name traditionally Puritan.
Contrary to with insects having sex,
Its message about sex is us to vex;
For "fly" means "flee" – no, not flea! – as in "Run
Away from fornication, everyone!"
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My all-time favorite guitar solo is Robert Fripp on Bowie's "Teenage Wildlife"
My favorite is on Does Your Mother Know by ABBA.
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I used to own a lovely 1912 house. Ancient trees in the yard, beveled glass windows, hardwood floors. Plaster walls, unfortunately still crack often and foundations still settle, even after ninety-five years. Loved the place, though.
Yeah, this place is kinda like that. Lots of woodwork, trees, etc.
It'll be great. And will give us an excuse to have kids...
(I didn't say that)
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I've got John Edward's authentic daytimer for sale on ebay. Without giving anything away, it's all haircuts from top to bottom.
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Why does God Exist, Mr. Gerson? Who created Him?
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Turtles all the way down.
Seen on kos once: Short summary of all religions - "God left ME with the rules"
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So Bush doesn't really use Cheeze Whiz on his Cheesesteak. Why lie about that?
(Damn storm knocked out power for a short time.)
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Crap. iTunes is not coming through for me on the Zappa front.
V for Virginia
The Zappa Family Trust keeps a tight watch over their treasure. You don't wanna cross Gail Zappa.
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My favorite is on Does Your Mother Know by ABBA.
NTodd: Today's Worst Person in the World!
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So Bush doesn't really use Cheeze Whiz on his Cheesesteak. Why lie about that?
I would lie about it if I did.
This is only one of the differences between me and Bush.
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For Zappa, you might try:
http://www.mp3sugar.com/zappa-fr...ppa-frank-
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The Zappa Family Trust keeps a tight watch over their treasure. You don't wanna cross Gail Zappa.
Uncle Smokes
I went into it thinking that was probably going to be the case. There are a couple of tribute albums and one with several cuts by Frank and some cuts by Diva and Dweezil.
Dammit.
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i love ABBA 
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My favorite is on Does Your Mother Know by ABBA.
Did a cover of that in my old punk band.
And later, as a solo folkie, did a cover of S.O.S. Got a write-up in the Strib for that one...
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It's funny and kind of sad how the public perception of Zappa, to the extent that it even exists anymore, is that he was this goofy guy who belongs in the same category as Weird Al Yancovic. In truth, there were few more serious musicians and composers in all of the Rock genre. But in the end, history will do him justice. is best albums will still be selling decades from now.
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Away from fornication, everyone!"
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And I thought it was litvak/spanish pun as in mosca - fly/skeeter and "witz" meaning "son of".
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Seen on kos once: Short summary of all religions - "God left ME with the rules"
rootless2, tumbling
Well, that pretty much sums up all the Abrahamistic ones, anyway.
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And will give us an excuse to have kids...
Zap Rowsdower
Excuses not to beed

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Crap. iTunes is not coming through for me on the Zappa front.
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Maybe your local library has them on cd, and you can rip it from those?
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Oh, fer crap's sake.
Someone wrote a book about Yearly Kos?
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07.14.07 - 12:13 pm | #
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Gerson should not attempt to be philosophical. Just saying.
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Tony Snowjob sez its 130 degrees in Bagdad. Wonder how hot it is in Smirks hell?
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"The present-day composer refuses to die."
-- Edgard Varèse
I've got run errands and generally make mischief.
Y'all take care of your good selves. Thanks for the pleasure of your company.
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It's funny and kind of sad how the public perception of Zappa, to the extent that it even exists anymore, is that he was this goofy guy who belongs in the same category as Weird Al Yancovic. In truth, there were few more serious musicians and composers in all of the Rock genre. But in the end, history will do him justice. is best albums will still be selling decades from now.
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Which is why his music need to be accessible on ITunes - to preserve his legacy as a real musician.
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Well, that pretty much sums up all the Abrahamistic ones, anyway.
blerb
Applies to all the revelatory ones, not just the Abrahamistic ones
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Excuses not to beed
I presume you meant "breed", but that's pretty good!
/slides print-off under Zapette's pillow
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For Zappa, you might try:
http://www.mp3sugar.com/zappa-fr...fr...ppa-frank-
s5072
NTodd, Bilker
Have you used this service before? Is it legitimately authorized to sell the cuts? 18 cents each seems awfully cheap, and I notice they're going to be in Russia with my credit card number.
BTW I found that Apostrophe is the one album I probably know the most of, but I'd like to have it anyway. And then another one I'm not so familiar with.
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I find my local used CD place is an increasingly great place to find the classics, as people up load their old CDs and sell them off to make some $. Very little Zappa, tho.
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