bye for now
Moonbootica, Latitude 2008 |
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06.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
bburton@barackobama.com to kvetch (politely, please; it works better) about Obama and FISA.
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06.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
power abuser = serial wanker?
baba durag |
06.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Journalists should have a strict code of ethics.
Basically, you should never get paid by anyone you are covering.
Nor should you hobnob with them on a social basis.
I know that sounds crazeeee.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Didn't some MSM mealy-mouthed piece of shit with no accountability just kick the bucket? What was his name?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
06.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
OBAMA '08
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
well, I suppose I shouldn't be paying the yard man "under the table" either, but who's the worse off for it? I think this whole "rules" thing is fine for the children, but we can be left with our best judgement as we are, after all, adults.
Who exactly is this Broder again?
Bobbie Markowitz |
06.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Are we still bitching about whatever it is people are pretending to believe Obama has done wrong?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Not that that means anything, but it's not like the guy was a corporate litigator.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
GMTA
Of course the rethugs are going to attempt to get up to no good. But it's not like Obama is going to be sitting there fat, dumb and happy singing disney tunes.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #
maybe we could sort it all out at a blogger's ethics conference.
D2 |
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06.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The problem of a democratic republic, in a nutshell.
Rmj, Eschatonian Theologist |
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06.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Are we still bitching about whatever it is people are pretending to believe Obama has done wrong?
The Old Man From Scene 24
No, now we are bitching about what Broder actually HAS done wrong.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #
No, now we are bitching about what Broder actually HAS done wrong.
oh goody!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 4:01 pm | #
But it's not like Obama is going to be sitting there fat, dumb and happy singing disney tunes.
fourlegsgood, shambler
Or reading "The Pet Goat."
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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06.21.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Broder's penile pump isn't just battery powered. He ponied up for the AC version.
baba durag |
06.21.08 - 4:01 pm | #
How unnatural.
Yep.
We could really, really use the rain.
And a break from this heatwave.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Last month he was a muslim, then the was a Christian, last week he was a muslim...
...Now the WaPo says his Christioanity is a problem
GP, 1/20/09 |
06.21.08 - 4:02 pm | #
Well, time to go out and do stuff.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:02 pm | #
How unnatural.
Yep.
We could really, really use the rain.
And a break from this heatwave.
fourlegsgood, shambler
August came early this year. And now it won't go away,.
Rmj, Eschatonian Theologist |
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06.21.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Russia 1 - 0 Netherlands
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Last month he was a muslim, then the was a Christian, last week he was a muslim...
...Now the WaPo says his Christioanity is a problem
Where are all these magnifying glass articles on McCain? We demand that he gets equal treatment from the media.
Echidne |
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06.21.08 - 4:03 pm | #
August came early this year. And now it won't go away,.
Still, some religious leaders wonder whether Obama's Christian-focused outreach might alienate Jewish and Muslim voters, for example, not to mention the Democratic Party's large secular wing.
The dear departed Saint Russert got $50,0000-$60,000 per speaking engagement, first class tickets acceptable, but private jet preferable.
Richard |
06.21.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Are we still bitching about whatever it is people are pretending to believe Obama has done wrong?
I am sorry. Where should I turn in my 4th Amendment protections?
Snow (WF-SC) |
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06.21.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Where are all these magnifying glass articles on McCain? We demand that he gets equal treatment from the media.
I think we may have to look to the Arizona press for those articles.
Then do our bit to make sure they get wide dissemination.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:04 pm | #
The dear departed Saint Russert got $50,0000-$60,000 per speaking engagement, first class tickets acceptable, but private jet preferable.
Hmm. I think I just got a career plan...
Echidne |
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06.21.08 - 4:05 pm | #
I am sorry. Where should I turn in my 4th Amendment protections?
Snow (WF-SC) | Homepage | 06.21.08 - 4:04 pm | #
No, keep them.
U may need them.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:06 pm | #
Broder's penile pump isn't just battery powered. He ponied up for the AC version.
baba durag | 06.21.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Still, some religious leaders wonder whether Obama's Christian-focused outreach might alienate Jewish and Muslim voters, for example, not to mention the Democratic Party's large secular wing.
I don't give a fuck who he reaches out to as long as he doesn't try to make me a christian.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Then I will demand that Obama stand up for them and condemn him for failing to take the lead.
Well, that's okay with me.
As long as we condemn everyone else for not standing up as well.
I include Hillary in that. She's not busy now. Can't she lend a hand?
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Cheney must be heart broken that he can no longer go to Russert to have his cock sucked.
Richard |
06.21.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Where are all these magnifying glass articles on McCain?
Nothing to see there. He is a straight shooter.
Charles Keating |
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06.21.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Oh THAT weenie....
Bobbie Markowitz
yep. but I repaired what appeared to be a small typo in your depiction.
baba durag |
06.21.08 - 4:09 pm | #
What are you referring to?
What I am bitching about that people are pretending to believe Obama has done wrong. My 4th Amendment protections.
Snow (WF-SC) |
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06.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Obama's been consistently against the immunity, and says he will try and remove it from the bill when it gets to the Senate. What more do people want from him?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Oh...Wait a minute! I'm a Christian!
[checks wedding album for details]
apparently Episcopalian!
SUCH a pretty church!
Bobbie Markowitz |
06.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
I include Hillary in that. She's not busy now. Can't she lend a hand?
Cant' lend a hand when all you have is a foot.
Ralphie |
06.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
What I am bitching about that people are pretending to believe Obama has done wrong. My 4th Amendment protections.
You might clarify that a bit. What's the connection between the two sentences above?
montag |
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06.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
and says he will try and remove it from the bill when it gets to the Senate.
He supports the compromise and intends to vote for it next week.
Snow (WF-SC) |
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06.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
No humor for me, sleep would be nice. I don't get much of that.
Ralphie |
06.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
I suspect that the media is going to set a record this year with regards to passing concern trolling off as "reporting".
Richard |
06.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
He supports the compromise and intends to vote for it next week.
He said he supports it EXCEPT for the immunity.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
HICA!
I has nap!
Nao, I has iced coffee!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
What I am bitching about that people are pretending to believe Obama has done wrong. My 4th Amendment protections.
I suspect that the media is going to set a record this year with regards to passing concern trolling off as "reporting".
Richard
I find this deeply troubling.
baba durag |
06.21.08 - 4:14 pm | #
Nao, I has iced coffee!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
A birthday nap.
Have a great rest of day!
ErinPDX |
06.21.08 - 4:14 pm | #
Jeffraham - iz birfday?
baba durag |
06.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
Read Greenwald. It's not just about immunity, the bill makes legal bypassing the FISA court entirely making legal exactly what was wrong with the current regime's actions.
Hillary probably will not strongly go against Obama, the leader the Democratic Party. Though I strongly wish she would. If nothing else, it would be perceived as sour grapes. Maybe Dodd should take the lead on this one.
qlª |
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06.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
But, but all rules were rendered null and void when Dumbya took office.
plantsman, |
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06.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
ErinPDX: A birthday nap.
Have a great rest of day!
Thank you! Tonight, going to Sportsman's Grill in the Villiage. NAMM's in town, and there's a smokin' jazz trio playing there, free.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Whoops, here's the quote
Still, some religious leaders wonder whether Obama's Christian-focused outreach might alienate Jewish and Muslim voters, for example, not to mention the Democratic Party's large secular wing.
Well, Scott Simon assured me today that John McCain is not a racist, so Obama must be a racist for claiming racism will be raised against him in this race, and Simon concluded that could only mean McCain would bring it up, and since McCain wouldn't do that, Obama must be a racist because now no one can point out that Obama's black.
So when Obama points out that he's black, it's racism.
Did I mention I need a new radio now?
Rmj, Eschatonian Theologist |
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06.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Ken Silverstein: David Broder’s and Bob Woodward’s Lame Alibis
I am not pretending to believe Obama did something wrong. He did something wrong. I believe that. I am not pretending to believe that. So I think I might want to continue bitching about it. Because I expect better from Obama. Apprently I will not get better from Obama, so I must be content with bitching about it.
But really it was the dismissal of the whole discussion as some sort of faux outrage.
Snow (WF-SC) |
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06.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Where are all these magnifying glass articles on McCain?
We cunt find anything wrong with McCain.
Millionaire Media |
06.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
baba durag: Jeffraham - iz birfday?
Iz! #45 on the charts.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
Hillary probably will not strongly go against Obama, the leader the Democratic Party. Though I strongly wish she would. If nothing else, it would be perceived as sour grapes. Maybe Dodd should take the lead on this one.
qlª
She figures she's been demonized enough.
I guess enough is enough.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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06.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
The media tells me...
Obama at 51% is good news for Republicans. He's really in trouble with voting block ______ .
McCain at 36% is popular. Everybody loves the straight shooter.
Richard |
06.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
I'm outraged at the lack of faux outrage!
ErinPDX |
06.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
We cunt find anything wrong with McCain.
Millionaire Media
TWAT you say?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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06.21.08 - 4:18 pm | #
She figures she's been demonized enough.
Well, there's the withdrawal stage to go through first. So it can't stop right yet.
Echidne |
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06.21.08 - 4:18 pm | #
Dodd's "favorable mortgage terms" don't make him squeaky-clean, either.
plantsman, |
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06.21.08 - 4:18 pm | #
Happy birfday, Jeffraham. Hope the kittehs baked you a cake in the shape of a scooter.
Echidne |
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06.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
hippos, birdies, and ewes to Jeffraham Prestonian and his caffeinated scoot.
baba durag |
06.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
Though I strongly wish she would. If nothing else, it would be perceived as sour grapes.
If she would go in and lead a filibuster against the immunity provisions that would be leadership and wouldn't be going against Obama.
I would applaud her.
Nothing wrong with her asserting a little leadership in the senate.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
I'm quasi outraged at your ersatz outrage about the lack of faux outrage.
NTodd, WhyIGottaBeMrPink |
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06.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
She figures she's been demonized enough.
Eh, you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. She was happy enough to be a warrior for the working class when it meant she might win the nomination.
Now? What's stopping her? Who else is harmed by this bill except the working class and all those people who voted for her?
Rmj, Eschatonian Theologist |
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06.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I would applaud her.
Nothing wrong with her asserting a little leadership in the senate.
fourlegsgood, shambler
A lot of people, unfortunately, wouldn't see it that way.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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06.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Well, there's the withdrawal stage to go through first. So it can't stop right yet.
Feh.
Work is the best antidote.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
baba durag: Jeffraham - iz birfday?
Iz! #45 on the charts.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 06.21.08 - 4:17 pm |
If she would go in and lead a filibuster against the immunity provisions that would be leadership and wouldn't be going against Obama.
especially since yesterday Obama said he would work int he Senate to remove the immunity from the bill.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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06.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
The cat with the medicine bottle.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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06.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Dodd's "favorable mortgage terms" don't make him squeaky-clean, either.
plantsman
If that's the standard, nobody gets to speak.
Lots of people with money get "favorable mortgage terms." It's hardly corruption, even among public officials who, like Dodd, are usually very well off.
Rmj, Eschatonian Theologist |
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06.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
especially since yesterday Obama said he would work int he Senate to remove the immunity from the bill.
She could be the public face of that effort.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
I'm going to go do a rain dance.
fourlegsgood, shambler |
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06.21.08 - 4:23 pm | #
A lot of people, unfortunately, wouldn't see it that way.
I disagree with that.
No one is mad at her right now.
fourlegsgood, shambler
I'm seeing a couple of posts here that show me that that is not the case.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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06.21.08 - 4:23 pm | #
No one is mad at her right now.
fourlegsgood, shambler
Especially if she steps up and takes the fall for other's decisions.
camelot-Obama/Maddow '08 |
06.21.08 - 4:23 pm | #
A lot of people, unfortunately, wouldn't see it that way.
The only people who would get mad at Hillary for working against FISA are the ones trying to blame every ill that befalls the democratic party on Obama. They simply don't believe any democrat any where should do anything that might help the party while he's in charge unless he specifically orders it.
MikeJ |
06.21.08 - 4:24 pm | #
Reid supports it, but for the immunity provision. So what. What does that mean. Nothing without action. But we get meaningless words. there are 68 senators planning on voting for it as is. So is Obama going to support a filibuster? That is nothing. And that is what I am bitching about. Saying he'll work to remove it. Saying he'll support a filibuster. Those mean nothing and are no example of presidential leadership. When he tells 49 Democratic senators to get behind the filibuster and refuse to accept this compromise, then he'll be doing what he can to strip out the immunity.
Snow (WF-SC) |
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06.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
I disagree with that.
No one is mad at her right now.
fourlegsgood, shambler
I'm seeing a couple of posts here that show me that that is not the case.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
Clearly if anyone anywhere says something less than complimentary about her, she must continue to recover from her demonization.
Rmj, Eschatonian Theologist |
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06.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
Please Mr/Ms clap Harder, repeat to me again how he's as bad as she is. Face it, you lost. He's as bad as Hillary is a stupid way to convince people to vote for her.
MikeJ |
06.21.08 - 4:32 pm | #
Not that anyone in here cares, but contrary to fears, they've rebuilt the Blue Moon Saloon in Divide, Montana which burned down a couple years ago. Divide is a decent rifle shot from the Big Hole River, which, despite great expectations of a massive salmon fly hatch, fished very poorly the past two days. Ad posted on the bulletin board of the Blue Moon:
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Lyn Bolinger
495-6025
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(Name and phone number alterned to protect the telepather.)
montanaheadcold |
06.21.08 - 4:33 pm | #
Nothing wrong with her asserting a little leadership in the senate.
fourlegsgood
But she's not the party leader and would be perceived as undercutting him.
qlª |
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06.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Soprano,
Late and from below. Gotta go!
It was Mussolini's definition.
Soprano, sempre libera
Mussolini defined fascism as being a collectivistic ideology in opposition to socialism, classical liberalism, democracy and individualism. He wrote in The Doctrine of Fascism:
Anti-individualistic, the fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only insofar as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal will of man as a historic entity.... The fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value.... Fascism is therefore opposed to that form of democracy which equates a nation to the majority, lowering it to the level of the largest number.... We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right', a Fascist century. If the nineteenth century was the century of the individual we are free to believe that this is the 'collective' century, and therefore the century of the State.[16]
Since Mussolini, there have been many conflicting definitions of the term fascism. Former Columbia University Professor Robert O. Paxton has written that...
She could be the public face of that effort.
fourlegsgood, shambler | Homepage | 06.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Definitely, But, knowing the Clintons, she'll want something in return for that.
Or am I the only who thinks it's a coincidence that, after Charles Rangel worked to get Nita Loewy to step aside so that Hillary could run for the Senate, Bill decided to move his entire operation to Harlem, which just happens to be Rangel's district? Was Rangel Hillary's BFF simply because he likes her?
Please.
Both the Clintons operate strictly from the principle of WIIFM.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
06.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
"It's expensive to maintain a Piercing Pagoda. A brotha gotta eat"-David Broder
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