I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Yep.
yerp
Oh, LittlePig. You beat me.
Ill call 'em below.
Cuba is pretty much the one word answer for "why we should try talking".
fuck lord 19% nobody gives a shit for his opinion
I am not convinced that Vladimir Putin is anywhere near as total, much less as violent or wicked, a tyrant or dictator, as George W. Bush. Checks and balances such as they are seem to be in place in Russia, But I could hardly say that about this place.
And I beat mer.
Glad someone wrote about it. I posted the Parade Magazine link to the worst dictators of 2007. Bush kissed and held hands with at least one of them. Saddam Hussein was not on the list in 2001.
Damn you leibniz. I'll never be first again. I should accept it.
So what's the diff between the House of Saud and Castro?
Oh yeah. That.
Ach, Leibniz, you beat me twice!
What happened to that neat Paladin icon, the knight?
i was disappointed to hear hillary decry cuba...his hubby was close to opening shit up with them, iirc
from below
It would have been so much easier if one were a huck-a-muck and the other Hillary or Obama. We'd be having so much fun. Instead we got stuck with two good candidates. What did we do to deserve *that*.
qlª | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 5:49 pm | #
Since when did ANYTHING chimpy have to say about the world make sense?
Feh.
they're bastards, but not our bastards
exactamundo
u.s. foreign policy for the past 90 years, in 6 short words
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Maybe the paladin needed a dragon to match?
Pooty Poot!
I'm wary a 11/63, 6/68 event will be used to united Imperial Dums & Rethugs.
Same feeling I got in Spring '01.
Since when did ANYTHING chimpy have to say about the world make sense?
Feh.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
NPR always leads with Presidential news. Like anybody gives a rosy rat's ass what the idiot-in-chief has to say.
Since we're one of the "bad guys" now, I'm not sure where we should start from. Depressing.
another post and you still can see duncan's big hed.'
I don't know how to take this one...
http://www.atomfilms.com/2008/ku...ction/
index.jsp
Instead we got stuck with two good candidates. What did we do to deserve *that*.
yeah it's like that brady bunch episode where one of the sons has 2 dates on the same night...what to do, what to do?
Now, if Barack takes both TX and OH it's over, mathematically, for Hillary? But if Hillary wins at least one, it remains open?
Not trying to rile up anyone, this is a serious question. I don't really have a dog in this fight, or more accurately, I have two dogs in this fight. Don't much care who it is, just that they beat the tar out of McCain or whoever.
i was disappointed to hear hillary decry cuba...his hubby was close to opening shit up with them, iirc
mogwai | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 5:51 pm | #
Hillary's campaign has gone from "Obama can't stand up to republican attacks" to actually trying the attacks - next she'll say he's in favor of compulsory gay marriage.
So what's the diff between the House of Saud and Castro?
Oh yeah. That.
MikeJ
Hell if there was oil under Cuba Castro's cock would have wore out from all the sucking it would have received.
IT makes sense to say Cuba is evil. Gitmo's in Cuba, no?
The frustrating thing is that the media plays along, designating "bad guys" as whoever the US government is designating a bad guy that week, while perpetuating the notion that the "bad guy" designation is linked to some sort of human rights badness when in fact it's just because they're bastards, but not our bastards.
Because Americans need a simple storyline. It makes them feel better without having to use any of the big brain muscles.
So what's the diff between the House of Saud and Castro?
14th century totalitarian vs 20th century totalitarian?
a style thing
.
Derbes, you mean this?
It's a leeeeeetle shocking that people don't see the problem with this bad guy thing.
OTOH maybe they do; that would account for some turnout numbers.
There ain't no good guys; there ain't no bad guys; there's just you and me and we just disagree....
Or so I've heard...
It's interesting how much more important it is these days ---because of HRC herself--- to have a first spouse who doesn't immediately nauseate most people.
Ter-AY-zuh helped sink Kerry's run as much as the choice of Edwards did.
So what's the diff between the House of Saud and Castro?
Fidel does not look fetching in a burnoose as he holds hands in a field of bluebells.
Saddam Hussein terrorized his own people.
So what's the diff between the House of Saud and Castro?
One has oil and the other doesn't?
How would history be different if JFK allowed the Joint Chiefs to conduct terrorism in the US to justify an attack on Cuba?
Would he still have been assassinated?
And the Big Dog is stinking it up now, despite the fact that his participation is not optional.
Paladin = Richard Boone, in the '60's "Have Gun. Will Travel".
Boone as a sort of ronin in the Old West. I liked it as a kid.
(insert rude remark about famous and much loved Atriot's age here.)
yeah it's like that brady bunch episode where one of the sons has 2 dates on the same night...what to do, what to do? mogwai
dress Peter up ...
For what its worth EADS (Airbus) just got a $40 billion US Govt contract for tankers.
Geez, don't we make ANYTHING in this country anymore?
Hell if there was oil under Cuba Castro's cock would have wore out from all the sucking it would have received.
LittlePig | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 5:54 pm | #
No. There'd be a 3 acre US Embassy in Havana, near the big crater.
Paladin, paladin, where do you roam?
Boone as a sort of ronin in the Old West. I liked it as a kid.
(insert rude remark about famous and much loved Atriot's age here.)
David Derbes, writin' away
I always got a kick out of "Hec Ramsey", too. Good stuff.
Why yes, yes I did. Thanks, Leibniz, I think it adds a little class to the place.
hillary's morphing into mcCain. she's gunna come out on stage tonite with her hair cut short and dyed white, cheeks packed with tortilla's. doing the robo claw.
How many of these dictators has bush been photographed with or kissed?
http://www.parade.com/dictators/.../2008/
index.jsp
America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
Well, that would be original.
For what its worth EADS (Airbus) just got a $40 billion US Govt contract for tankers.
the cheese-eating surrender monkeys are making our military hardware now? how do you like that ratwang losers?
Geez, don't we make ANYTHING in this country anymore?
md (super) 80 | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 5:57 pm | #
EADS named Northrup Grumman of the principal subcontractor.
Gotta share the wealth to get room at the trough, or something like that.
No. There'd be a 3 acre US Embassy in Havana, near the big crater.
rootless-e, email-listed!
Oh please. They'd have found a way to make him acceptable. Oil covers a lot of sins (see Saud, House of).
I think Michelle Obama might be just offensive enough to nauseate most people.
Mrs. McCain, however, is just milfilicious.
Well, that would be original.
leibniz♘
The classics never die.
"Hec Ramsey" had this weird and very quirky premise, that a guy might be, in effect, a forensic scientist in the 1880's.
Tombstone CSI, sort of. Long before CSI existed.
And the Big Dog is stinking it up now, despite the fact that his participation is not optional.
Toby Petzold
If it bothers you so much, why don't you burn the Big Dog?
would it be too radical and disturbing to suggest that the democratic voters of ohio and texas deserve to be heard from and that we will all accept the cumulative decision of democratic primary electorate no matter which candidate wins the most votes?
.
Cuba has huge offshore oil reserves.
what is it with middleaged white men, who don't get the response they want from a woman, roll their eyes.
as tweety did just now in reaction to katrina vandenheuval's point that children succeeding in school is something that all parents want -- not just the bourgeoisie.
Class? Here? How about this?
Oh please. They'd have found a way to make him acceptable. Oil covers a lot of sins (see Saud, House of).
LittlePig
If 17 of 19 hijackers had come from Cuba, it would have been an excellent opportunity to invade Venezuela.
what is it with middleaged white men, who don't get the response they want from a woman, roll their eyes.
as tweety did just now in reaction to katrina vandenheuval's point that children succeeding in school is something that all parents want -- not just the bourgeoisie.
nona | 02.29.08 - 6:01 pm
< eye roll >
I think Michelle Obama might be just offensive enough to nauseate most Villagers.
Fixed yer typo, Toby.
Class? Here? How about this?
leibniz♘☭☭&#
I like the knight's icon the best. How do you do that?
HA! barack answers hrc's fear ad with an ad of his own!
http://
tpmelectioncentral.talkin...n_a_dangero.php
what is it with middleaged white men, who don't get the response they want from a woman, roll their eyes.
misogyny?
assholistic?
dinosaur who should be buried?
the cheese-eating surrender monkeys are making our military hardware now? how do you like that ratwang losers?
25% built in Mobile, AL. Had they believed they needed to get past a Democratic candidate, it would be 25% built in (random blue state).
If 17 of 19 hijackers had come from Cuba, it would have been an excellent opportunity to invade Venezuela.
V for Virginia, home again
The next phone call you will get will be from the McCain campaign committee, asking if you would like to be his Secretary of State.
Now, if Barack takes both TX and OH it's over, mathematically, for Hillary? But if Hillary wins at least one, it remains open?
I don't think that's true.
She only has a shot if she runs the table and does it by 20 pts.
Her strategy is to damage Obama as much as possible and then insist that she's the only viable option.
what is it with middleaged white men, who don't get the response they want from a woman, roll their eyes.
The same thing that makes Hillary cackle when asked a tough question:
Frustrated Corp Whore Syndrome.
Derbes,
Well, I am on a mac, so I have an icon in the toolbar for what keyset I want (set from preferences). When I go to the icon, I can click on character set and get all kinds of nonsense.
mogwai:
yes.
HA! barack answers hrc's fear ad with an ad of his own!
http:// tpmelectioncentral.talkin...n_a_dangero.php
jdw |
Excellent! The Obama campaigners get it. Too bad Hillary didn't hire people that weren't leftovers from Estes Kefauver's campaign staff.
"HA! barack answers hrc's fear ad with an ad of his own!"
--jdw
I kinda wish he hadn't done that.
I kinda wish he hadn't done that.
mer
Why so?
Hi, FLG. I was really asking about the math of the delegate count, nothing else.
The next phone call you will get will be from the McCain campaign committee, asking if you would like to be his Secretary of State.
David Derbes, writin' away
I took a Disaster Management class in grad school and we had to do the public information officer job -- talk to a camera, get crucial information to the public. I said, "I don't want to think about how many people would have to be dead for me to be doing this job."
In the scenario you describe, John McCain and I are the only survivors.
Too bad Hillary didn't hire people that weren't leftovers from Estes Kefauver's campaign staff.
I will not stand for this slur of Estes Kefauver!
we'll all be bastards in the future.
or bad guys, take your pick.
"Why so?"
--LittlePig
Buys into the whole fear thing. Maybe, just me, but I'm tired of it.
Thanks, Leibniz. I too am on a Mac, but am not as glyph-clever as most.
HA! barack answers hrc's fear ad with an ad of his own!
http:// tpmelectioncentral.talkin...n_a_dangero.php
Oh, holy shit.
HA! barack answers hrc's fear ad with an ad of his own!
http:// tpmelectioncentral.talkin...n_a_dangero.php
jdw | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:02 pm | #
You know, it's hard to watch as Hillary's experienced fighters roll over that kumbaya singing wimp.
"Now, if Barack takes both TX and OH it's over, mathematically, for Hillary? But if Hillary wins at least one, it remains open?"
no. it all depends on delegate count.
the news said after WI that hrc would have to win EVERY remaining state by double-digit margins to overcome BO's # of pledged delegates. HRC has more superdelegates, but with each passing day that number decreases as people lose faith in her ability to win and run a decent campaign.
IF BO wins both TX and Ohio, he can still come out with a net loss of delegates against hrc. on the other hand he can lose both TX and OH and still win more delegates.
Her strategy is to damage Obama as much as possible and then insist that she's the only viable option.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:04 pm | #
does obama look the least little bit damaged by anything that hillary has said in the past two months to you?
i think she is giving him the chance to develop his responses before the general, so now he is innoculated against the mccain attacks
you know, often, in a fight, being perceived as the victim of attacks is an excellent strategy
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The question is, thus, whether or not this posture of creating a mostly arbitrary class of "bad guy"
There's nothing arbitrary about it. China and Russia are huge markets for us to sell to. Saudi Arabia has oil. Cuba, Syria and North Korea aren't big enough or wealthy enough for us to care about. And they don't have any resources we need. But we're not bullies or anything. Nope, not the good ole USA.
DJ | 02.29.08 - 6:00 pm | #
Zing!
Hi, FLG. I was really asking about the math of the delegate count, nothing else.
Well, her winning by just a little doesn't do anything to erase her deficit.
Thanks, jdw.
Hmm, if they'll keep Bush off NBC, I pomise to tune in more often:
NBC: Bush kept off network to promote MSNBC
NEW YORK — NBC News said it was a desire to promote MSNBC as a news destination that led to its decision Thursday not to carry President Bush's news conference on NBC.
The call to keep Bush off the broadcast network was noteworthy not just because ABC and CBS pre-empted regularly scheduled programming to cover the president, but because NBC was airing another news division program at the time — the fourth hour of Today.
"We're trying to make MSNBC the place to go for NBC News, and the strategy is working," said Phil Griffin, NBC News senior vice president.
I will not stand for this slur of Estes Kefauver!
My family has a story that my mom was so tired of that campaign that she finally yelled, "Kefauver this! Kefauver that! I'm tired of all this! Next time it'll be Kefauver de grass!"
I got my punning from her....
does obama look the least little bit damaged by anything that hillary has said in the past two months to you?
Not my point. Though we will hear the "he's not qualified" for the rest of the year.
I'm just disgusted by the tactic. YMMV 
Boone as a sort of ronin in the Old West. I liked it as a kid.
(insert rude remark about famous and much loved Atriot's age here.)
David Derbes, writin' away
I always got a kick out of "Hec Ramsey", too. Good stuff.
LittlePig | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 5:57 pm | #
Actually, I never missed Medic.
Older than dirt.
does obama look the least little bit damaged by anything that hillary has said in the past two months to you?
Boy, she's been so mean to him.
*rolls eyes*
Buys into the whole fear thing. Maybe, just me, but I'm tired of it.
mer
Hmmmmm. I took as more as "do you want someone answering the phone for whom war is the default answer?".
The fear thing is going to be there; hell, it'll be Walnuts whole campaign. Calling Hillary's and John Sidney's bluff early seems like a good angle.
NEW YORK — NBC News said it was a desire to promote MSNBC as a news destination that led to its decision Thursday not to carry President Bush's news conference on NBC.
Don't those guys realize they're needlessly pissing off 19% of the country?
I've said it before, and I'll say it hundreds more times before la Chimpster is finished mucking everything up...only hypocrites go to hell, and it's a very full place.
You know, it's hard to watch as Hillary's experienced fighters roll over that kumbaya singing wimp.
Hi, FLG. I was really asking about the math of the delegate count, nothing else.
FLG has his math. Karl Rove has the math.
Kefauver de grass!
This is precisely why I come here. People smart enough to make such a joke. I salute you.
I'm just disgusted by the tactic.
Political campaigns are fairly disgusting, actually.
But you know that.
Ur not stoopid.
There's nothing arbitrary about it. China and Russia are huge markets for us to sell to.
Russia has oil and natural gas, too. We've been importing Russian oil directly since 2002.
When Bush looked into Vladimir Putin's eyes, he didn't see his soul but rather a couple million barrels of oil.
Always and forever, it is about the OIL.
"Oh, holy shit."
hahaha. and ya know what makes me happy?
by giving him just a few bucks, i was able to help him fight that stupid hrc ad with one of his own.
i'm loving how he's responding to bullshit attacks.
what is it with middleaged white men, who don't get the response they want from a woman, roll their eyes.
[...]
nona | 02.29.08 - 6:01 pm | #
and
Boy, she's been so mean to him.
*rolls eyes*
pie | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:11 pm | #
Nona - ask Pie.
I was really asking about the math of the delegate count, nothing else.
My understanding is that neither one is likely to get a majority of delegates.
If Hillary can win by substantial margins in TX & OH she can narrow the gap enough for super delegates to make up the difference, but if she does not win both, or splits 50/50 with Obama it will be hard for them to get enough SDs to win. At least thats how the "experts" were explaining it a few weeks ago.
If HRC had gone nuclear earlier, it would have given people more time to consider things.
Now, it just seems desperate.
Though we will hear the "he's not qualified" for the rest of the year.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
I think they're pissing into the wind with that one. Nobody has experience for that job that isn't running for a second term. Hillary hasn't done anything all the distinguished in the Senate, and her only big political push, health care reform, was dead on arrival because she didn't go the groundwork (just like her current campaign). Hillary doesn't have enough follow-through.
Her strategy is to damage Obama as much as possible and then insist that she's the only viable option.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
which is as odious as it is stupid.
did someone mention desperate.
when i come home tues. nite i so hope i'm hearing nos. like 65 and 60 percent in texas and ohio.
i know that's not likely but...
rootless-e, what are you saying?
But Obama is plagiarizing this line from Kucinich - in fact, it was Kucinich's second best line.
What HRC needs now is an incident or huge revelation that the superdelegates can hide behind when she buys them off for supporting her over BHO.
You know what's really nice? That I finally moved every scrap of money I have out of the stock market. Last week.
LittlePig, maybe I need to go watch it again, and listen to the words. All I saw were pictures of more kids asleep in their beds needing protection against an enemy that might not exist.
rootless-e, what are you saying?
pie | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:14 pm | #
Nothing serious. Eye-rolling is one of my primary forms of communication.
I was really asking about the math of the delegate count, nothing else.
My understanding is that neither one is likely to get a majority of delegates.
I think we went over all the counts yesterday, but NYT has a chart with everybody's estimates here:
http://politics.nytimes.com/elec...ates/
index.html
"does obama look the least little bit damaged by anything that hillary has said in the past two months to you?"
well, he's only gained 8 points in the last week or so vs. the 15 he might have gained without her bullshit.
my hope is that people in TX and OH will as turned off by her negatvity as the voters in WI were. she was way ahead there and she went from being up by 6 to losing by 17 with her negative attacks.
The cardinals will come and eat the sunflower seeds even if its raining.
If HRC had gone nuclear earlier, it would have given people more time to consider things.
Advice from the peanut gallery.
Not my point. Though we will hear the "he's not qualified" for the rest of the year.
I'm just disgusted by the tactic. YMMV
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:10 pm | #
it wasn't necessary for hillary to say this for it to be obvious as a line of attack
"disgusted"
politics is not a tea party. obama is not like a new car where you have a heart attack when it gets its first little scratch. he will run well even if he has a few dings in him, and, IMHO, hillary has failed to even ding him a little bit. he did, you know, attack hillary rather bitterly as well.
"well, she deserved it"
sigh...
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Eye-rolling is one of my primary forms of communication.
So you're a man?
In either event, y'alls party is doomed. If HRC pulls off the deal, blacks will stay away in droves come general election time.
If BHO gets it, Southern whites and older women will not even give him the back of their hands.
Though we will hear the "he's not qualified" for the rest of the year.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
I think they're pissing into the wind with that one.
LittlePig
Me, too. What clearly matters is brains and judgment.
It's hard to admit it, but McCain is smart enough for the job. He just has terrible, terrible judgment.
There are many other reasons to vote against him, though, not least of which he's a goddamned Republican.
If Hillary was a man, she'd be kicking Obama's ass right now.
FLG has his math.
And kittehs. I gotz kittehs.
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...ay-
kittenz.html
I thought for quite a while that the Republicans made a mistake going for McCain and basically killing their free publicity so early. But if HRC is going to be nasty for them, maybe it wasn't such a bad plan after all.
she was way ahead there and she went from being up by 6 to losing by 17 with her negative attacks.
Interestingly the polls had them close or tied at the end of the previous week (just like now in TX) yet he came out of it with a big win.
In either event, y'alls party is doomed.
Yes, we're all feeling positively despondent at the prospect of taking the White House and increased seats in the House and Senate, not to mention additional governorships around the country.
I'm positively .... verklempt.
It's hard to admit it, but McCain is smart enough for the job. He just has terrible, terrible judgment.
There are many other reasons to vote against him, though, not least of which he's a goddamned Republican.
That's exactly right. He's not an idiot, but he believes the same shit that Bush does, AND he luvs him some war.
Fuck that shit.
Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD,
Wish I had money to move out of the stock market. The check cleared! Thank you.
Not having any principles cost the Dems 2004.
Having too many principles, as your party conceives, will cost you this year.
If BHO gets it, Southern whites and older women will not even give him the back of their hands.
Toby Petzold
Sorry, Toby, but the country seems to have moved on.
There are fewer and fewer racists. Sure, there are some, probably more than I'd like to admit, but fifty-four years after Brown, most people have grown up. Not all.
So you're a man?
pie | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:17 pm | #
is it unladylike to roll eyes?
I steal from my retarded mother.
Not having any principles cost the Dems 2004.
Having too many principles, as your party conceives, will cost you this year.
Toby Petzold
That's ridiculous. Principles had nothing to do with, emotions (and John Kerry's lack thereof did). Republicans don't have principles.
This month Hillary & Obama together raised $85,000,000. John McLame raised $12.
Like these stories about Obamacans?
Does Big Media understand what would motivate a conservative to support BHO in the present context?
These poll numbers are meaningless.
Toby's free advice deserves its rightful place in the trash bin.
um...
we were all trying to be united and be friends here, so can we just let the primary campaign run its course without the rehearsal of the hillary demonology yet again?
.
Boy, she's been so mean to him.
*rolls eyes*
pie
but it's true pie.
except i would have substituted mean with rovian.
and hillary is no rove.
remember when hillary "found her voice", she lost it soon again.
maybe it would have been better if michelle obama would have run, then we could have had the first black female president.
For the person above who asked if somebody could lock up the nomination before the convention: Obama needs about 700 delegates, Clinton about 800. There are about 950 left in the primaries, and then it all goes to superdelegates.
So no, it doesn't look like anybody wins on pledged delegates, but of course the supers moves with the winds.
which is as odious as it is stupid.
That's my point.
It just creeps me out.
My mom is 74 and every old white woman in her water exercise class is supporting Obama. To The Person.
but because NBC was airing another news division program at the time — the fourth hour of Today.
Dear god. The Today show is up to four hours? Back when I was young and the earth was cooling, there used to be cheesey game shows on in the mornings.
If Hillary had led a courageous attack on the AUMF in 2002, she'd be considering vice-presidential choices now.
Does Big Media understand what would motivate a conservative to support the liberal mccain in the present context?
These poll numbers are meaningless.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:20 pm |
fyt
mccain is a liberal who is destroying the republican party - rush told me so
.
If Hillary was a man, she'd be kicking Obama's ass right now.
Life is So Unfair
Only if by being a man Hillary could let her inner Elvis out. Personally I think Hillary, like Michael J. Fox, has no Elvis.
Her strategy is to damage Obama as much as possible and then insist that she's the only viable option.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
link? and what did you think about this?
Upon learning about this, Obama's campaign sent out an analysis of the Clinton investments to news organizations which it asked not be attributed to the campaign:
It called Mrs. Clinton “Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)” in its headline. The document went on to refer to the investment in India and Mrs. Clinton’s fund-raising efforts among Indian-Americans. The analysis also highlighted the acceptance by Mr. Clinton of $300,000 in speech fees from Cisco, a company the Obama campaign said has moved American jobs to India.
This month Hillary & Obama together raised $85,000,000. John McLame raised $12.
And McCain has no answer to his dilemma.
Breaking the law should really help him if he goes forward anyway.
Yowza.
Racists? How can BHO be the post-racial candidate and Great Black Hope at the same time?
It's called mass psychosis, hippies.
You've all gone spare.
If BHO gets it, Southern whites and older women will not even give him the back of their hands.
keep your crack-ass crackers, we will never win those cracker states anyway, as for older women, it's like expecting your redneck older women to vote dem: they ain't gonna switch parties
Thanks, MikeJ.
And a warm welcome to Dr. G!
I gots to run, but maybe later, folks...
Voting for Obama is like voting for never having a woman president.
Heparin pulled from the shelves.
No one could have anticipated that!
"Interestingly the polls had them close or tied at the end of the previous week (just like now in TX) yet he came out of it with a big win."
yup. undecides probably had a very bad taste in their mouth over her antics.
her meltdowns over the last week have apparently not made her look very presidential...
pie, ignore rootless, he's a quasi-troll. I've been scrolling past him ever since he called me an idiot weeks ago.
And now dinner is ready.
Mike Smith of the Dave Clark 5 died.
John McLame raised $12.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Don't forget the $20 Blowjob Bob Allen raised.
No wait, he was going to PAY the $20. Nevermind.
mccain is a liberal who is destroying the republican party - rush told me so
Remember - that's comedian and practicing drug addict Rush Limpballs.
Tacitus, Rush is sheepdipping McCain so that disaffected HRC voters will turn to him in the general.
Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD,
I wish I'd been clever enough to have a nom-de-comments half as good as that one.
And McCain has no answer to his dilemma.
Except to shriek that Obama needs to opt into public financing.
That ship has sailed. U lose old lumpy man.
Personally I think Hillary, like Michael J. Fox, has no Elvis.
That's cold. :|
I have an Elvis. It's the over-the-hill Elvis but it IS an Elvis...
No Elvis...man, that's just cold....
If Hillary had led a courageous attack on the AUMF in 2002, she'd be considering vice-presidential choices now.
She didn't have a choice, unlike Obama. She did what she had do, and now she is being punished by sexists for doing exactly what John Edwards did.
No Elvis...man, that's just cold....
If you don't know Mojo Nixon then your store could use some fixin.
Dear god. The Today show is up to four hours? Back when I was young and the earth was cooling, there used to be cheesey game shows on in the mornings.
Neponset
The password is...Allen Ludden.
She didn't have a choice
Bush: US Is Not Headed Into Recession
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush said Thursday the country is not recession-bound and, despite expressing concern about slowing economic growth, rejected for now any additional stimulus efforts. "We acted robustly," he said.
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I just had to see that again. It's so funny!
let's make tax revenues fair based on how much the states paid in taxes: far too many redneck states get more than their fair share
you know what it sounds like to me?
"discussion topic: did nearly half of the democratic electorate vote for a minion of beelzebub or merely a tired old harridan?"
"when hillary attacks obama, she should realize that she should just shut up, whereas when obama attacks hillary, it is a beautiful thing that she should thank him for"
just relax already, guys - if hillary and obama run ads against each other it's not the end of the world
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[whispers]
(Um, rootless...that's her real name)
yup. undecides probably had a very bad taste in their mouth over her antics.
her meltdowns over the last week have apparently not made her look very presidential...
At the risk of infuriating everyone- I had lunch with my 18 year old goddaughter today. She turned 18 in January and is registered to vote.
She was going to vote for Hillary, but then she watched the Ohio debate. she said, "What a bitch!"
Dear god. The Today show is up to four hours?
Yeah, and in the Nashville market it's followed by two hours of Pat Robertson's "The 700 Club." No kidding.
It goes without saying: NBC is dead to me.
Life, you are completely wrong. The American People are reconsidering their views of the war.
Case in point: Angelina Jolie's column today will move more public opinion in favor of the war than all the fucking press conferences the Chimperor could ever give.
Outrageous, but true.
Tacitus, Rush is sheepdipping McCain so that disaffected HRC voters will turn to him in the general.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:23 pm | #
not a chance, dickhead
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Wish I had money to move out of the stock market.
Well, you did, once. Mine used to belong to the Department of Army... and thus to you. On the whole I'm glad they paid me in money, rather than in my original offer which involved several major pieces of materiel and the riverfront property at Lvn. Tanks are difficult to re-finance.
Sorry Duncan, but mine's better and I had it up yesterday:
http://fifty50blog.blogspot.com/...ny-
circuit.html
PWN3D, you bastard!
"My mom is 74 and every old white woman in her water exercise class is supporting Obama. To The Person."
--ErinPDX
My 86-year-old mom switched to Obama from Clinton when I was still trying to convince her to vote for Edwards. I think that was about six weeks ago or so.
rootless-e, email-listed!
Yep. Sure helped Bob Graham.
Sure helped Kerry when he apologized.
She was the senator from the state of New York, whose biggest city was the site of 9/11. Further, her vote couldn't have stopped the war.
I know you want to pretend all sorts of other things, but that's reality.
Politics is disgusting.
Since Obama wasn't in the senate then, he hasn't earned special recognition.
Not one bit.
Yeah, and in the Nashville market it's followed by two hours of Pat Robertson's "The 700 Club." No kidding.
It goes without saying: NBC is dead to me.
Holy crap.
(Um, rootless...that's her real name)
Gromit, venal acolyte | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:26 pm | #
Ouch. Stepped on it again!
Case in point: Angelina Jolie's column today will move more public opinion in favor of the war than all the fucking press conferences the Chimperor could ever give.
Outrageous, but true.
Monkeys have been flying out of my ass for three days now.
Unbelievable, but true.
Geena Davis was the first woman President anyway. I saw it on the tellabision.
She was going to vote for Hillary, but then she watched the Ohio debate. she said, "What a bitch!"
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:27 pm | #
so you're saying that demonizing fellow democrats is a good thing?
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She was the senator from the state of New York, whose biggest city was the site of 9/11.
What the fuck did 9/11 have to do with invading Iraq?
When I masturbate to pictures of Angelina Jolie, I try not to get my splooge in her eyes. Isn't that interesting?
She was the senator from the state of New York, whose biggest city was the site of 9/11.
Right.
Since Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
mer, these women were all for Edwards. The day after he dropped out, they all showed up at class and announced "Obama" with no discussion.
Somehow I did not equate "giving money to the U.N." with "supporting the war".
She was going to vote for Hillary, but then she watched the Ohio debate. she said, "What a bitch!"
How sad.
How naive.
Holy crap.
Doood do not get me started.
Do you know how many times I walk into a nail salon or Subway shop and see the bogus Pat Robertson "news casts"? Someone puts the TV on The Today Show and the television stays stuck on NBC all day long.
It's atrocious.
Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD,
Where is your gavatar? I miss it.
There's less than two weeks to go before filing day, and it already looks like the Republicans are going to fail miserably at contesting the new Democratic majority in the Oregon House.
As of last night, Republicans have filed candidates in only two seats currently held by Democrats. Meanwhile, the Democrats have eighteen candidates running in fourteen districts currently represented by Republicans.
Overall, it's clear that momentum and excitement is on the Democratic side - with 56 candidates running in 45 districts. The Republicans have only 35 candidates running in 29 districts. A full 31 districts don't have any Republicans filed, with just 12 days to go.
http://www.blueoregon.com/2008/0...ys-to-
fili.html
so you're saying that demonizing fellow democrats is a good thing?
No, I'm pointing out that Hillary is probably alienating voters with her negative ads here in Texas.
Geena Davis was the first woman President anyway. I saw it on the tellabision.
So YOU'RE the one who watched that show! I think they have a prize for you ... call the network!
The only thing that allows most of y'alls opinions to even form in your feeble minds is your absolute ignorance of History.
Since Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
She didn't vote to go to war with Iraq.
But that's what happened.
As I said, Obama gets no pass on that one.
Tone down the rhetoric. It's ugly.
There are many other reasons to vote against him, though, not least of which he's a goddamned Republican.
David Derbes, writin' away
what really turned me off about mccain was after the london bombings he was the first pol to hit the airwaves saying "see, this proves we needed to be in iraq."
i don't see the logic, and i think the incident proves the opposite.
but really, it was the cheap assed opportunism that turned me off. i don't think he's all that bright either. not in league with obama or hillary, for sure.
A full 31 districts don't have any Republicans filed, with just 12 days to go.
I won't be happy until the republicans and the whigs share the same amount of ballot space.
The UN is the tool of Antichrist.
Politics is disgusting.
Since Obama wasn't in the senate then, he hasn't earned special recognition.
Not one bit.
pie | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:28 pm |#
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV) Chafee (R-RI)
Conrad (D-ND) Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN) Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI) Graham (D-FL)
Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA) Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI) Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA) Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD) Stabenow (D-MI)
Wellstone (D-MN) Wyden (D-OR)
liebnitz --
Re: below -- I would just like to point out that the Waffen SS had really nice dress uniforms
The advantage that people who believe in an afterlife have is that they can choose between believing that Buckley is coming back as a parasite in the guts of a fly or is sucking Satan's cock (come to think of it, he might enjoy the latter ...)
No, I'm pointing out that Hillary is probably alienating voters with her negative ads here in Texas.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:31 pm | #
you are completely missing the fact that obama has run negative ads against hillary and said very mean things about her as well
it's politics, centaur! they both do it!
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She didn't vote to go to war with Iraq.
Unless she was a fuckin moron she did.
If she believed Bush, she's not smart enough to be president.
"She was going to vote for Hillary, but then she watched the Ohio debate. she said, "What a bitch!""
...but....but...she got the 1st kwestion, and it was hard and stuff, and they gave obama a pillow.
...and if she woulda got the second kwestion, she'd say she was being dissed because she didn't get the first kwestion, and obama got a pillow.
Idly speculating, but speaking of the influence of spouses, did Elizabeth's cancer recurrence (and dire prognosis) fatally hurt Edwards' chances?
It's probably much more the powers that be wanted the Clinton/Obama cage match, but I was wondering if this also didn't play some role.
"She didn't vote to go to war with Iraq."
i'm about as partisan as you can find, but there's some shit i will not eat.
rootless-e, email-listed, how many were running for president?
You forgot Bob Graham.
Look, you're not getting anywhere here.
If you think Obama's the better choice, tell me why.
Frankly, trashing her is a huge turn-off and tells me you're feeling insecure about his chances.
Huckleberry jam! On the sheetz.
The really sad thing is you can't tell the fake Toby from the real one. Assuming there is a real one.
If you think Obama's the better choice, tell me why.
Frankly, trashing her is a huge turn-off and tells me you're feeling insecure about his chances.
pie | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:37 pm | #
I'm not trashing her, just observing that what seemed like the safe choice was a political stumble.
noblejoanie | 02.29.08 - 6:35 pm | # -- I think the latter rather than the former (which could have actually attracted a sympathy vote)
The powers that be regarded Edwards as a threat & everyone else as business as usual (OK not DK, Gravel or Dodd, but you know what I mean)
since i am not a partisan of either obama or hillary, i hereby declare myself a neutral observer
i see obama supporters ragging on a fellow democrat and complaining about her
i know that there are hillary supporters here too, but i don't see them criticizing obama
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No, I enjoy saying that. Actually thinking abt putting it on a bumper sticker.
i'm about as partisan as you can find, but there's some shit i will not eat.
There's more going on here. I realize that's a convenient gripe.
Oh, right. Kerry apologized. He admitted he was wrong.
Yes. That certainly worked in his favor.
Prior--thanks for answering. But I was also thinking that a fatal cancer diagnosis can also make people shy away. The thought of watching her dying play out in the White House, with their young children, well, it is too sad to countenance especially for those of us old enough to remember the Kennedy funeral.
sheets
Drudge was the supposed source of Hillary getting the photo out that had already been on the Free Republic's pages.
He's gone through the looking glass with his latest stuff. You'll need brain bleach if you go there....
Y'alls thing abt Iraq is played out. It isn't going to bring in the rubes like last time, hippies.
owls
I'm not trashing her, just observing that what seemed like the safe choice was a political stumble.
Seemed to you.
You are one person. And you are trashing her.
Either he wins on his *merits* or he goes home.
You believe in him. Great.
Then believe in him.
noblejoanie | 02.29.08 - 6:41 pm | # -- Nah! We Edwardians believed that she would beat it because we are optimists! We also probably like her better than him, but that's another issue!
Seemed to you.
You are one person. And you are trashing her.
Either he wins on his *merits* or he goes home.
You believe in him. Great.
Then believe in him.
pie | Homepage | 02.29.08 - 6:44 pm | #
Hillary either believed that Bush was not going to war, or that he had a good case or that it would be politically unsafe to vote against the war. Since she's obviously very smart, I discount the probability of all but the last choice - where she would have been agreeing with the judgement of the most influential DC consultants. They were wrong.
why would the eagles sign asante samual?
would be politically unsafe to vote against the war.
A black congressman on teevee today said he was voting for Obama, after supporting Hillary, because his constituents wanted him to do that.
Understandable.
What do you think Clinton and Schumer's constituents were saying in 2002?
This is not an excuse for the vote. It just is what it is.
designating "bad guys" as whoever the US government is designating a bad guy that week
Except instead of "the US government," it's really more "the Village." A President Obama could declare in front of the world that Hugo Chavez is now our glorious partner in democratism, and the Village elders would go apoplectic, and their lickspittles and sycophants in the press corps would dutifully regurgitate that outrage into living rooms nationwide.
"1984" is their playbook. We've always been at war with Eurasia.
The real fear, of course, is that Barack Obama might build a treehouse and actually let girls into it...
Thanks, Dr. Black.
You, Matt, and Ezra are exactly right.
It's fun to read influencial people who think just like I do. Gratifying, and hopeful, too.
It was a pleasure to meet you, though I'm sure you don't remember. You were kind and gracious and amusing, despite the patience you must need to deal with all us commoners.
You are affecting enormous change, even though few in the Elitosphere would be willing to admit it.
Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
J
When does being pro-Obama make you a quasi troll?
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