HULK SMASHED
Yes, it does.
No way.
Rounding third...
Home run, baby!
Well, hell, now I'm just lonely...
Has Atrios ever awarded Gloria Borger the Wanker of the Day award? If not, it is an egregious oversight.
Things I learned from CNN this week.
New Hampshire is NOT a border state.
The Iran/US Navy confrontation happened in the Sea of Iran.
No kidding.
Maverick!
Oh, snap.
Missed it by that much.
Gloria Borger just ain't the sharpest tack in the dull-tack bin at the hardware store, if you know what I mean.
The only way to win is to appeal to the CoRe (Cult of Reagan) republicans.
poop and kitteh!
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The real reason that reporters love McCain, other than the unfettered access to a candidate, was and is the unfettered access to the open bar on the "Straight Talk Express."
Unsurprisingly, this is not something you will be hearing from reporters themselves.
Lucretia Borger drips with poison for Democrats and is visibly upset when she even has to talk to one. It is her goal never to say anything factually correct.
I can haz Al Gore?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
awesome!
... the unfettered access to the open bar on the "Straight Talk Express." ...
Hey, it worked for Bush! Didn't they have a blender with an endless supply of margaritas on his campaign bus?
JP, what happened to your eye?
Well thank goodness they're finally doing policy analysis.
I've long since given up expecting logic or honesty from any Gooper.
Dems just want to spend money? How come it was a Dem administration that balanced budgets and the last three Gooper administrations did not?
Raygun's tax cuts were so destructive that even this affable moron trimmed them in subsequent years.
Gloria Borger should be back in kindergarten cutting out paper dolls and not allowed near a microphone.
Who is Gloria Borger? I never heard of her.
Gloria has the Larry Kudlow narrated Teddy Ruxpin tapes in her back
Common knowledge.
Jeffraham -- whatsa matta you face?
It is her goal never to say anything factually correct.
Not exactly a difficult goal for her to reach. More like get up, open mouth, trip over goal...
What I'm offended by is her sheer stupidity.
Lenore: JP, what happened to your eye?
Dunno! Co-worker noticed it looked swollen on Wednesday. It didn't hurt or itch, so I shrugged. Today, it itches slightly, hurts slightly.
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Raygun's tax cuts were so destructive that even this affable moron trimmed them in subsequent years
A fact convieniently ignored (or forgotton) by the CoRe rethugs.
Dems just want to spend money? How come it was a Dem administration that balanced budgets and the last three Gooper administrations did not?
Last week my Republican neighbor who works for UBS thoughtfully sent me UBS's "election outcome analysis."
It was all about how the Democrats always raise taxes and raise the budget deficit. Not one word about the Republicans. The obvious message being: don't vote for the Democrats!!!
I e-mailed him back about the biased BS, and the next time he saw us he asked who we were supporting. I really think he assumed we were Republicans.
Amazing.
Goopers are never embarrassed by their stupidity. Nor are they ashamed of their lies.
They are the Party of sociopathy.
Is there an eye doctor in the house?
Borger is a pure propagandist for the right wing. She has no credibility whatsoever.
From below:
Why are they acting as if the last seven years was just a sort of vaguely unpleasant act of God, rather than a calculated strategy by vile, criminal people?
steve simels | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 9:46 am | #
Why won't they explicitly link social spending to war costs? Why won't they denounce the bail out of wall street?
Because - they are conservative democrats. The party faithful decided that Kucinich/Dodd/Gravel were too weird and selected the central three.
Dunno! Co-worker noticed it looked swollen on Wednesday. It didn't hurt or itch, so I shrugged. Today, it itches slightly, hurts slightly.
You might have a sty? Or mild conjunctivitis?
Is there an eye doctor in the house?
The latest Apple product, the iDoctor...
JP, conjunctivitis?
Goopers are never embarrassed by their stupidity. Nor are they ashamed of their lies.
They are the Party of sociopathy.
Rudy
They think "If I'M doing it, it must be okay!"
I have never heard of Gloria Borger.
G L O R I A
Glor e ya
G L O R I A
Gloor e a
I'm going to shout all night
Glor e ya
Gonna Shout is everyplace
Glooor ye ya
yea yea yea
Gloria in Excelcis
Duncan Black and the Atriots
Flaming Blogger Records, 2008
Southern Beale: You might have a sty? Or mild conjunctivitis?
Could be all three! 
If it's a sty, it's different than any other I've had. I had a rare, third-world conjunctivitis when I was 12... its symptoms were quite different, as well.
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Who said this:
For all these reasons, I would like nothing more than to support the Kerry Amendment; to bring our brave troops home on a date certain, and spare the American people more pain, suffering and sorrow.
But having visited Iraq, I'm also acutely aware that a precipitous withdrawal of our troops, driven by Congressional edict rather than the realities on the ground, will not undo the mistakes made by this Administration. It could compound them.
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/0...or_statement_6/
I e-mailed him back about the biased BS, and the next time he saw us he asked who we were supporting. I really think he assumed we were Republicans.
Amazing.
Southern Beale | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 9:58 am | #
Which is more incredible: the durability of the fantasy that republican governments are frugal or the unwillingness of the Democrats to mount a concerted campaign against this branding success?
"Cable News Makes Me Stupid
Gloria Borger, just now"
well it has worked for Gloria
Along those same lines, an editorial that showed up in the paper this morning from Norm! Coleman's former press secretary:
Republicans must return to their Reagan roots
This BS has to stop.
I remember when I was raising my family in an upscale suburb of Boston and attended a neighborhood party one night.
My closest neighbor chatted politics with me and assumed I was a dyed in the wool Gooper like himself.
When I disabused him of this notion, he acted offended and as though I had some social disease.
As the years went by we always kept our distance, which was best for both of us.
Is there an eye doctor in the house?
The latest Apple product, the iDoctor...
FeralLiberal
Raygun roots include the largest amnesty program for undocumented workers ever.
Chimpy gets to use that talking point in Bahrain
(Meant to say LOL, but fukked up da tags)
Chimp -- Your nation has held two free elections since 2000 -- and in 2006, your people elected a woman to your parliament. Bahrain's reforms are making your nation stronger. You're showing strong leadership, and you're showing the way forward for other nations.
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would like someone to explain why clinton and edwards still have big bucks, but edwards is running out of money.
clinton or obama may make excellent presidents, but they both have tons of corporate dough. i'll stick with edwards.
Republicans must return to their Reagan roots
This BS has to stop.
Zap Rowsdower
Lloyd Bentsen to Dan Quayle "I can create the ILLUSION of prosperity with 800 billion in hot checks"
Good times....
Let us make coffee, the brewed condiment.
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Chimpy
THE PRESIDENT: Hoo-ah! (Applause.) Yes, thanks for coming out. (Laughter.) It's good to see you. Command Sergeant Major Harbin, thank you. He's a silver-tongued fox. (Laughter.)
Sybil will be here any moment with a diagnosis and a cure.
Oh, Borger's husband is Lance Morgan, CEO of the D.C. PR firm Powell Tate/Weber Shandwick. Their clients include the Saudi Economic and Development Co.; Crusader Industrial Alliance (lobbied Congress and the Pentagon not to terminate the Crusader self-loading cannon system, which critics called outdated); the Alliance for Better Foods (created to promote public acceptance and to oppose labeling of genetically modified foods); Americans for Safe & Efficient Transportation (opposing tough state clean air standards); and the Japanese Whaling Association.
They couldn't be less PC if they tried.
the unwillingness of the Democrats to mount a concerted campaign against this branding success?
rootless-e
On what do you base this assertion? I've seen plenty of Democrats bluster with spit flying that this is bullshit, for precisely the reasons cited here. The counter-meme that Democrats like to pay their way while Republicans always borrow money gets quite a bit of play AFAICT.
Chimpy
I appreciate what this Third Army did in World War II. I hope you do too, as well. After all, you're members of Patton's own. Played a vital role in the destruction of the Nazi war machine. They helped liberate about 12,000 towns; at least that's according to the history of the Third Army. From their noble ranks came soldiers with some of our nation's highest directors* [sic],
Sybil will be here any moment with a diagnosis and a cure.
qlª
There's something wrong with his feng sui.
clinton or obama may make excellent presidents, but they both have tons of corporate dough. i'll stick with edwards.
h illdick | 01.12.08 - 10:03 am | #
Well, someone has to stand at the forefront of the popular struggle with other Edwards supporters like Fortress Cap, Skadden Arp, and fellow members of the revolutionary brigade.
GWPDA
Now add Fred Thompson to that pic...
They couldn't be less PC if they tried.
Southern Beale
well I'm sure Lucretia doesn't even know who here husnad's clients are
isn't she a failed CBS maroon
Wow, the KMT just swept to power in Taiwan. This is a pretty big change (new majority of 85 out of 113 seats in Parliament). Economy and corruption were the major issues bringing the DPP down. KMT wants to have better relations with the mainland. (i.e. they'll want ignorant US Repubs to STFU about Taiwan independence)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/as...tion/
index.html
I wonder what the Conservatives think about the fact that Ronald Reagan genuinely wanted to reduce this nation's stockpile of nuclear weapons to zero (along with the Soviets).
We can thank Richard Perle and the other budding neoCons for talking him out of it.
Perhaps it was just 'pre 9/11' thinking.
or the unwillingness of the Democrats to mount a concerted campaign against this branding success?
rootless-e
Your anti-Democrat ranting is tiresome. Sing a new tune buddy or just vote Republican and be done with it.
Sooo, you think those Baath Party members that are being reinstated are gonna hold any grudges?
Yeah.
Gloria "No Lips" Borger is a mere ageing sorority gal. Her like dominates the brain damaged airwaves.
"The latest Apple product, the iDoctor..."
If apple were run like Microsoft, there would be an ILawyer product line as well.
isn't she a failed CBS maroon
Yes, which is why I'd never heard of her until I hit teh Google. I never watch CBS Snoooze.
Unless I'm looking for hair-care tips from Katie, of course.
From their noble ranks came soldiers with some of our nation's highest directors* [sic],
P O'Neill
Dumbest motherfucker on Earth.
GWPDA, when will you know about Angel?
Unless I'm looking for hair-care tips from Katie, of course.
You mean, what not to do with your hair, right? 
Your anti-Democrat ranting is tiresome. Sing a new tune buddy or just vote Republican and be done with it.
Southern Beale | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:06 am | #
Are those my choices? Cheer for the pro-war Democrats or the super pro-war republicans?
"The latest Apple product, the iDoctor..."
I'm sure everyone has seen this clip but it's so good, I thought I'd post it again: It's The iRack!
GWPDA, when will you know about Angel?
Lenore
Probably not until her mange is cured.
it's stories like this that make me wish I'd taken the blue pill.
On what do you base this assertion? I've seen plenty of Democrats bluster with spit flying that this is bullshit, for precisely the reasons cited here. The counter-meme that Democrats like to pay their way while Republicans always borrow money gets quite a bit of play AFAICT.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 10:05 am | #
Bluster and spittle are not effective marketing - otherwise Atrios commenters like me or you would rule the world.
Bushboy and his veep creep deserve impeachment, indictment for war crimes and prison upon conviction.
Instead he gets to roam the world and act as a "leader" when the truth is he couldn't lead a thirsty horse to water and he wouldn't ride the horse because he's too afraid.
The ersatz cowboy, an incompetent criminal with a mean streak, that's Bushboy.
Are those my choices? Cheer for the pro-war Democrats or the super pro-war republicans?
There's always option 3: SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Are those my choices? Cheer for the pro-war Democrats or the super pro-war republicans?
rootless-e
Maybe you could try posturing a little less and analyzing a little more. Nothing is ever as simple as the way you represent it when you make these statements. Half of your comments are so strident and tendentious that they are hardly worth reading. The other half are not so bad. I wish you would post more of the latter.
it's stories like this that make me wish I'd taken the blue pill.
"The yellow pill keeps you from screaming..."
-Abe Simpson
The counter-meme that Democrats like to pay their way while Republicans always borrow money gets quite a bit of play AFAICT.
blerb, born-again stoner
I have to say I'm not seeing it, at least not in such a way as to counter the ultra-common-knowledge that Democrats raise taxes and spend like Judi.
I'm off to some chess wars. Cyall anon...
Shrub is looking for something anything that he can attach himself to and call it a success
so far the single major positive of his entire administration is the one woman elected to the legislature in Bahrain
.I have to say I'm not seeing it, at least not in such a way as to counter the ultra-common-knowledge that Democrats raise taxes and spend like Judi.
V for Virginia, free at last!
I honestly believe that this has much more to do with the size of the megaphone the media gives each point of view than it does with any inherent failure of the Democrats to press the case. And, you know, arguing in favor of tax increases is hard. It's like arguing with a 5-year-old about the virtues of going to the dentist.
Maybe you could try posturing a little less and analyzing a little more. Nothing is ever as simple as the way you represent it when you make these statements. Half of your comments are so strident and tendentious that they are hardly worth reading. The other half are not so bad. I wish you would post more of the latter.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 10:10 am | #
Actually, I don't think it's simple at all. That's why I'm currently supporting Obama.
Thanks for getting back to me, ql! We're so close I can taste it!
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Free republic is down the hall to your right.
Now, coffee do I have.
How about a cat?
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speaking of blue pills...some dude is feeding viagra to oysters, so as to imbibe teh little creeatures with true aphrodesiac power:
Jun. 15 - An entrepreneur in Australia is trying to put the "oh" in oysters with the ultimate aphrodisiac.
The calm waters of Brisbane Water make a perfect habitat to breed oysters and the area produces almost 10 million oysters every year.
But one farmer has come up with a new way to spice up his business.
tnr gets it wrong as usual:
It turned out that a large number of white voters had either lied to the pollsters about their willingness to back Bradley, or had changed their mind on polling day and decided to vote for Deukmejian. Could it be that voters lied to pollsters this time, too?
Andrew Kohut, a pollster for the Pew Research Center, thinks so. Kohut is the eminence grise among pollsters.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/stor...5c-
5c12d0158ba8
The piece tnr uses to prove their point says exactly the opposite:
I concluded, eventually, that I got it wrong not so much because respondents were lying to our interviewers but because poorer, less well-educated voters were less likely to agree to answer our questions.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/1...on/
10kohut.html
Who is this dumb? Well tnr. Oh and of course marshall approvingly links to tnr.
Funny how the Village pretends that all of the spending on Wars of choice just do not count as spending. But taking care of sick children does.
Note to the Village, us historians are watching and taking note. High school kids are going to be learning about your bullshit 50 years from now. Spin all you want, but real historians will unspin it.
I honestly believe that this has much more to do with the size of the megaphone the media gives each point of view than it does with any inherent failure of the Democrats to press the case.
Of course it does! But when Dems do accidentally get the microphone, do you see them banging away against this bullshit?
I have to confess that if CoT didn't bobble the Sunday shows I'd never have any idea what was said on them, but my impression is that they stay comfortably inside the cozy frame that has been constructed to hold this "debate."
Kohut is Karl Rove's favorite pollster
I honestly believe that this has much more to do with the size of the megaphone the media gives each point of view than it does with any inherent failure of the Democrats to press the case. And, you know, arguing in favor of tax increases is hard. It's like arguing with a 5-year-old about the virtues of going to the dentist.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 10:14 am | #
Obviously, the Repuke control of the media gives them a huge advantage. But the Democrats have problems of their own in delivering a counter-message. Look at how Hillary took after Obama on the SS cap issue - she reinforced Republican stories about huge tax burdens.
My original statement was that the Democrats have never seriously taken action to counter the branding of Republicans as frugal. The survival of this widespread belief automatically puts democrats at a disadvantage and it seems like it would be a good idea to figure out how to counter it.
Actually, I don't think it's simple at all. That's why I'm currently supporting Obama.
rootless-e
Well then why not explain to us why you are for Obama rather than always taking cheap potshots at the others? Nobody around here wants to live under an unbridled corporatocracy. We just differ on how best to effect change. When you constantly make arguments impugning the fundamental character of those agents of change whom you do not favor, you curry substantial hostility without really advancing your case. If you want to convince me that Hillary is not the way to go in a 2-candidate race, you will have to make your case in a more subtle, non poo-flinging way.
Truth in photography.
He really is the Michael Scott of presidents.
He really is the Michael Scott of presidents.
I'm going to make some French toast and stuff.
Molly -- let me know about the registration thing, in case the Pantsless One is too delicate to write it.
See you lovely folks in a bit.
sean of the dead is funny
He really is the Michael Scott of presidents.
You're too kind. I was going to say "Mortimer Snerd".
A selected list of Chimpy utterances in the Gulf.
Jaysus, I don't want to leave an upscale oyster bar all crouched over hlike I was in 7th grade again.
Forgot to say Fuck you to Lawrence O'Donnell. You suck.
Note to Arianna: if you want someone to stir the already boiling pot, you can at least find someone interesting instead of contrived.
Hey, the "visitors on line" counter is gone! Maybe now Halaoscan will work properly.
Troutski
you can add Dan noBaltz and wowpoo to that list. He has a story today saying Democrats are angry at Edwards for not getting out.
Coffee! Cat!
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We just had waffles here at Castle Tralfaz, in between videotaping the arborial destruction going on outside. They have the other big oak stripped to an upright trunk now and are taking that down by sections.
Forgot to say Fuck you to Lawrence O'Donnell. You suck.
Note to Arianna: if you want someone to stir the already boiling pot, you can at least find someone interesting instead of contrived.
Yeah, I read that yesterday.
That was tantamount to giving a mentally-ill bum in op-ed piece in the NYT.
Then again....
Well, let's go do all our errands, since it's cold, but not raining.
bbl
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CAMP ARIFJAN, Kuwait, Jan. 12 -- President Bush explored the possibility of further troop reductions in Iraq with his top commander on Saturday, but he announced no decisions while forecasting that the U.S. military presence there would outlast his presidency.
Bush offered an upbeat assessment of where Iraq stands a year after he sent reinforcements to stem spiraling violence, and he said the U.S. military is "on track" to achieve its plan of reducing troop strength there from 20 to 15 combat brigades by the middle of the summer. That would make for roughly 130,000 troops in all, about the same as when Bush announced the "surge" last January.
YAY! fascist repugnicant warmongers are teh awesomest!
But having visited Iraq, I'm also acutely aware that a precipitous withdrawal of our troops, driven by Congressional edict rather than the realities on the ground, will not undo the mistakes made by this Administration. It could compound them.
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/0...or_statement_6/
hadenough
Clinton voted no on Kerry's amendment, too.
I'm voting for Edwards - I hope he stays in til the end.
Chimpy
I want to thank these ladies from Kuwait for joining me and the Chargé. I'm really looking forward to the conversation. Laura had met with some before and came back very impressed by the spirit and desire of Kuwaiti women to be full participants in Kuwaiti society.
First, I'd like to thank His Highness for his hospitality. Secondly, last night in a conversation with His Highness I said, any regrets about having women vote in elections and run for elections? He said, absolutely not. He said, our society is enriched by the participation of our women. And he's right. All societies are enriched by the participation of women. I happen to believe very strongly in the freedom agenda and I think an integral part of that agenda is making sure that all participants in society have got an equal voice.
And one of the interesting -- I think when people look back at the history of the Middle East and history of the world it's going to be women who helped lead the freedom agenda. And it's happening right here in Kuwait. We've had people here at the table who ran for Kuwaiti parliament. Jenan ran, she said -- I told her the first race I ever ran, I lost -- (laughter) -- and she said, well, the first ran I ever ran I lost too. But she intends to win next time around.
And I am currently loathing the Star Tribune in print and online.
Note to newspaper folk: selling a paper to an investment firm does have consequences in terms of circulation and quality.
Thanks again, McClatchy.
Guess I gotta send Edwards a bunch more Turkee today. I think I'll take it from the Obama fund. John can thank Larry and Arriana.
good morning.
is watertiger still around? i'm having a little issue with some mail i tried to send to a particular list, and was wondering if she got it.
statewide recount in NH in case it's not been mentioned here.
I like two things about Obama: personal history and message smarts. For personal history, he was a community organizer and civil rights lawyer before going into politics. He's actually spent time working with people living in projects and seen voter suppression in action and chose to work as a progressive. And his team comes from Jesse Jackson's and Harold Washington's base. That's not a history matched by either of the other two and it gives me some hope he means what he says. For message smarts, I think he is trying with some success to craft a message that is appealing to a majority. To me, Hillary does the usual checklist - which gets about 50% of the voters, and Edwards does angry which gets about 20%. I'm sick of the democratic party being a party of middle class professionals and I don't see either of the others having any hope of changing that.
JIM PINKERTON quit his Newsday column and resigned his Fox News contract to join Gov. HUCKABEE as a senior adviser to help fill out his policy proposals. Pinkerton tells Playbook he was lured by Ed Rollins, his boss in the Reagan White House political-affairs office, who said it was a chance to "restore the Reagan coalition," Pinkerton recalled.
"I thought, 'I'm not going to turn THAT down,' " Pinkerton recalled.
Mr. Willie Horton himself
nice people to surround yourelf for the Christian no negative advertising candidate.
I'll swipe something choice from BOBW:
Q What about the political benchmarks? Do those no longer matter?
THE PRESIDENT: Of course they matter. They matter to the Iraqis a lot. It's a sign of reconciliation. I just mentioned they passed a pension law, which, of course, got a huge yawn in our press. But that's -- well, that's okay. (Laughter.) We can't pass -- we can't reform our own pension system, like Social Security, but they did.
Social security reform and a civil war: exactly the same.
Democrats like to spend money.
Private enterprise is more efficient than government.
Your turn.
Your turn.
Profits are stolen wages.
"she reinforced Republican stories about huge tax burdens."
OMG!
Worse than shameless. obama's repub talking point about SS being in crisis isn't the problem, something else is.
Let the Gannon-related captioning begin
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...r270084922.jpg/
With Dodd out, on 2/5 I'll be voting for the candidate of the remaining three that pisses me off the least. So far that's Edwards. The catfighting between the other two camps is really getting tedious. They all should be hammering McCain and the other GOP ftards instead of each other.
Profits are stolen wages.
Trickle down
Yes, yes. Ms. Borger's training is quite the success story, isn't it?
I fear MvVain the most. Not McCain himself, but his groupies in the press.
I'm also acutely aware that a precipitous withdrawal of our troops, driven by Congressional edict rather than the realities on the ground,
how is it that this 'logic' holds up, in the face of our continual failure to accomplish anything remotely resembling "security" or "peace" in iraq?
after all these long years there?
i guess we're supposed to believe that staying there is proof we're winning, despite any evidence to support it, while leaving would bring about The End of the World and the Slaughter of Ponies.
they insult our intelligence, those of us who demand immediate withdrawl. none of us are saying, "drop your guns and run, run away!" of course we want an "ordered" withdrawl, and we even want it to go better than the occupation. because unlike some, we actually care about saving lives.
"Insurance companies - overcharge and underpay
by Chris in Paris · 1/12/2008 09:57:00 AM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Comment (0) · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!
Who could believe such a report? Shocking. They do it because they can easily get away with such behavior.
The Consumer Federation of America’s insurance director, J. Robert Hunter, said insurance companies have enjoyed robust profits and contained losses largely by “methodically overcharging consumers, cutting back on coverage, underpaying claims and getting taxpayers to pick up some of the tab for risks the insurers should cover.”" http://www.americablog.com/2008/...charge-
and.html
chidy, I got your email.
Edwards has offended many Democrats with his candidacy. They question his authenticity and see his shift from optimism to anger as the sign of an opportunistic politician.
Chutzpah.
Clinton: I do not want to fix the problems of Social Security on the backs of middle class families and seniors. (Applause.) If you lift the cap completely, that is a $1 trillion tax increase. I don't think we need to do that.
rootless-e | 01.12.08 - 10:29 am
Thank you, that is what I'm talking about. So it doesn't trouble you that a lot of Obama's successful branding strategy involves deliberately glossing over really crucial issues like gay rights with ambiguities that seem to give the bigots a pass? I mean, I guess I can see how that's a great strategy with the public, but it makes me pretty queasy. I see him as to the right of Hillary based on that.
And Dan Balz of the WaPo certainly doesn't want Edwards in the race.
sheets...
What argument does anybody try to proffer for why Edwards shouldn't be in the race?
And his team comes from Jesse Jackson's and Harold Washington's base.
you may provide specific names, and links, to back up this assertion. i'm not trying to be mean, but i know some of the folks who work on his campaign, and i wouldn't call all of them "harold washington's base" nor am i sure that anyone working for obama worked for harold. i could be wrong, feel free to correct me.
We need a FDR right now. We need someone who will fight for the "little guy" and the powerless in this country.
We need a president who will get us out of Iraq ASAP - leave no residual troops, no permanent bases - and take our "contractors" out, too.
civil rights lawyer
Obama was not a civil right attorney that is a bunch crap--he was a corporate attorney as is (was) his wife
talk about remaking yourself
So it doesn't trouble you that a lot of Obama's successful branding strategy involves deliberately glossing over really crucial issues like gay rights with ambiguities that seem to give the bigots a pass? I mean, I guess I can see how that's a great strategy with the public, but it makes me pretty queasy. I see him as to the right of Hillary based on that.
blerb, born-again stoner | 01.12.08 - 10:34 am | #
No it does not trouble me at all. There are many "conservative" citizens who reflexively vote republican because of "guns, gays, God". Defusing that advertising slogan is good - as long as it is not accompanied by any actual concessions to bigots. The fact is that the thugs get a lot of support from blue collar people who should be voting Democrat, but have been scared away on "social" issues. I think Democratic "activists" are much too concerned about symbolics and too little concerned about money and power.
Obama opposes a "precipitous withdrawal." Which is what Republicans always accuse the Dems of supporting, usually coupling it with terms like "cut and run."
What Obama supports is an orderly, phased withdrawal. A few months ago he was proposing withdrawing a brigade a month. Lately he's been saying all combat troops out within 18 months after he takes office.
That sounds pretty good to me. Obviously, we don't want to make this horrible fiasco even worse by the way we get out.
chicago dyke, foily | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:36 am | #
David Axelrod. For example.
Barack Obama was not a "corporate attorney."
From Wikipedia:
After high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.[23] He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations.[24] Obama received his B.A. degree in 1983, then worked at Business International Corporation and NYPIRG before moving to Chicago to take a job as a community organizer.[25] As Director of the Developing Communities Project, he worked with low-income residents in Chicago's Roseland community and the Altgeld Gardens public housing development.[26] He entered Harvard Law School in 1988.[27] In 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review's "first black president in its 104-year history".[28] He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991.[29] On returning to Chicago, Obama directed a voter registration drive.[29] As an associate attorney with Miner, Barnhill & Galland from 1993 to 1996, he represented community organizers, discrimination claims, and voting rights cases.[30] He was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.[31]