I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Hello!


GravatarThat looks dirty.


GravatarSibelius, you magnificent bastard!


GravatarGet ready for war in Iran.

You know it's coming. Just listen to the rhetoric.


Gravatar(From below)
Echidne,

Son accosted me to make him lunch. So I am still up. No, I don't see it as a problem. Did you read the link: honest answer now?
DWD


GravatarGoodnight, my lovelies. JFK beckons us early. Be good to each other.


Gravatarfresh sheets. what a treat.


GravatarAlso, in case you weren't aware, Huggy Bear is an asshole.


Gravatar Noonan suggests what Obama "think[s] of America" is a mystery -- but he wrote a whole book on the topic

heh. indeed.


GravatarI'm having a serious music fit. Listening to Schubert's string quintet now, totally into it...


GravatarGet ready for war in Iran.

No. I wouldn't even if I knew how to.


GravatarThanks for the fresh linens, Echidne.


GravatarNo. I wouldn't even if I knew how to.
Apostate


Indeed. From your lips to the FSM's ears. And noodly appendages.


GravatarNToddler, of course, would be Princess Buttercup.
Sinfonian, Earl of Warren


NToddler would be Duke of Dildo.


GravatarSen. John McCain (R-AZ) is happy with the outcome. In a blogger conference call today, he said the results in Basra and southern Iraq were a “pleasant turn of events” in his view. Sadr, McCain says, is now marginalized. The bloggers reported on McCain’s responses:

Hot Air: It’s a “pleasant turn of events.” We’ve been pressing Maliki for action, and he persevered through some setbacks to success. Basra now is under Maliki’s control, and it has united the central government. Sadr is marginalized. “Overall, I’m rather pleased.”

Commentary: He described the outcome as a “pleasant turn of events” and said that Prime Minister Maliki “surprised us all.” McCain conceded that there were setbacks at first, but said that with limited American support the Iraqi army has wrested control of Basra from the Sadrites.

Sadr is dead! Long live Sadr!


Gravatarplay for the 3 run homer, bitches!


GravatarSo we spent the last two days at a pre-retirement seminar put on by my employer. It was actually pretty impressive; very well done & well thought out, not just about money but about first, envisioning what your retirement will look like, and then talking about all the 401k, etc., stuff to make that happen. It wasn't nearly as depressing as it sounds.

And the dear spouse came with me, which was excellent, and what was even more excellent was when we did the guided meditation, we both envisioned the same thing -- city apartment overlooking a park.


GravatarDragging up my profound comment from below:
ellroon: as bad as it is now, and it's bad, it's nothing, nothing whatever like the slaughter of the first world war.

It's too easy, with a volunteer army, 'only' 4000 or so American dead, and rigid control of information, to pretend there isn't a war on.
ProfWombat |

I know. The slaughter of men was beyond horrific.

Now we are just supposed to watch American Idol and go shopping. The volunteer army stupidly volunteered so they have to go and die.
ellroon bitterful


Gravataromg, sibelius.

it's been a long time

thanks echidne


GravatarOoh, I love Sibelius! I used to play oboe, and I've never heard this piece. Jesus, it's beautiful. I don't think I was ever that good.

Of course, I wasn't that good. We used to play "Finlandia" a lot, though.

I put Ralph Vaughn Williams in the same category in my feeble little mind; music that is very simple but hauntingly beautiful. His oboe concerto made me wish I'd never quit playing.


GravatarIt's a composer AND a governor of Kansas!


GravatarIt's still Friday here in the midwest, so I'll sneak in a catblogging pic.


Gravatari'm the king of nothing...


Gravatarthose paintings are freaking me out.


GravatarHow come none of you hypocrites mentioned that Duncan just posted 2 videos posted by a Ron Paul nut? What's next, videos about how Hillary is just another little Jew Tool?


GravatarRalph Vaughan Williams = my musical hero

I have left instructions to have "Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis" played at my funeral. Doesn't have to be live; a recording will do.


GravatarAnd the dear spouse came with me, which was excellent, and what was even more excellent was when we did the guided meditation, we both envisioned the same thing -- city apartment overlooking a park.

That's really nice.

I received in the mail the other day a statement from the SSA telling me how much SS I would receive monthly if I worked to age X, Y or Z. If I'm lucky, I have a lot of years of work ahead of me.


Gravatarwe both envisioned the same thing -- city apartment overlooking a park.

strawhat says


Sounds like a good plan.


GravatarComment by Real men for McCain blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

A sphincter says what?


GravatarHuggy Bear does not have clue one as to what is really going on in Iraq.

Which means he's perfectly positioned to continue the deserting coward's "plan" for that country.


GravatarEchidne,

I was save you the trouble. Here is the real meat of the long article, Yet, rather than being read as evidence of a Clinton strength, these results mostly have been interpreted as a worrying sign for Obama's ultimate general election chances.

For Obama, Bositis' analysis is both bad news and good news.

The bad news is that white women voters, who exercise outsized power in the primaries because of their relatively high turnout, continue to rally behind Clinton despite the long odds against her securing the nomination. They will likely continue to frustrate Obama's efforts to end the contest before the close of the primary season in June.

The good news for Obama is that his defeat in Pennsylvania, and his decisive loss among white voters Tuesday, may not indicate, as some observers and Clinton partisans have contended, a fatal weakness with white voters that could doom his chances against Arizona Sen. John McCain in November.


While the MSM has been content with the narrative that Barack Obama has a problem with white voter and Hillary has a problem with black voters the problem is actually much different.

Hillary is commanding incredible loyalty from white women. This is skewing the racial results to make it look like Barack is having trouble attracting white voters. Contrarily it is making it look Hillary is having trouble where she is not.

Interesting read.

http://www.newhouse.com/white-re...ti-black- 2.html

No VJ in this as far as I can see.


GravatarDWD, I answered you below.


GravatarYou know it's coming. Just listen to the rhetoric.
Sinfonian, Earl of Warren

I've noticed the same rhetoric and it scares me to death...


GravatarSinf: yup; 'Tallis' is great. 'The Lark Ascending' is among the very best noises I've ever heard. Even his hymns, odd for a not too religious guy...


GravatarGod Damn America for allowing president Bush to steal the election.
God damn America for voting in Bush for a 2nd term.
God Damn America for killing Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis
God Damn America for killing our soldiers for a useless war.
God Damn America for letting the rich get Richer.
God damn America for letting the poor get poorer.
God Damn America for believing the useless Media Fodder
God Damn America for letting those people suffer and die in New Orleans during Katrina.
God Damn America for not giving a shit about the environment.
God Damn America for torturing.
God Damn America for not covering peoples right to health care.
God Damn America for being Ignorant
God Damn it.


Gravatardont worry sinf. Congress will stop bush.


GravatarRalph Vaughan Williams = my musical hero


Mine, too! We have two of his compositions in the "Oxford Easy Anthem Book" that we use in our church choir, and I'm dying to use them, because, well....

Now, the prounuciation: "ralf" or "rafe"?

My mother taught me the latter, but the local NPR station uses the former.


GravatarI thought I hated Huggy Bear before, but after his hypocritical ass said what he said in New Orleans, during his "whirlwind visit," he can get fucked with a rusty chainsaw, sideways.

Goddamn, I hate that fucking douchebag.


GravatarIt's still Friday here in the midwest, so I'll sneak in a catblogging pic.
FeralLiberal

I've already blogwhored my borrowed kitties...


Gravatar'Raife', I believe, as with most Brits...


GravatarHillary is commanding incredible loyalty from white women.

Shorter Hillary: "Where the white wimmin at?"


Gravatarhamletta: what ProfWombat said.

Your station is hopelessly provincial.



Gravatargood evening bats

finally got around to watching no country for old men

man, death is the new black


GravatarAnd sorry about the surrealist paintings. This was the best noise of the available choices.

Love the Swan of Tuonela. You can hear the swan swimming in the still waters of the world of the dead.


GravatarDWD: my wife, a career woman who's dealt with her share, at 56, is for Obama...

ellroon: gets back to the old trope of who loves the vets. By all evidence, Republicans don't, except to wrap themselves in the flag.


GravatarMuch to do tomorrow. May you all have DFH tonight (Dreams From Hecate).


GravatarI think a large part of white women's loyalty to Hillary Clinton is that they see the unrelenting barrage of sexist abuse heaped upon her at every turn, which reminds them of the unrelenting sniping of sexist abuse that they take every day as well. Many men, even well-intentioned men who love their mothers, wives, sisters, and daughters, just don't see it.

Shakespeare's Sister blog had a very good post earlier today about how that's like the Matrix. Once you see it, nothing's the same, but until you make an effort to see it you'll never notice it.


GravatarFor years, I had a CD of "Tallis" done by the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra under Slatkin. I damn near wore that thing out.

Then I moved to St. Louis. Then "Tallis" was on their season. And I went.

I wept openly. I believe it's the closest to the Divine I've ever been, hearing that in person in Powell Hall in St. Louis.


Gravatar"God damn America for voting in Bush for a 2nd term."


God knows he wasn't elected then either..


GravatarAh, to me, "Go figure" is an expression that means the idea expressed just before it is so obvious that it really needs no qualifier.

Looking at incredible wind and rain damage a man turns to another and says, Storm last night? The other man says, Go figure.

That sort of thing. Not meant to be insulting, just a statement of the obvious. Yes, women are supporting Hillary.


Gravatar"Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis"

Here


Gravatar'Raife', I believe, as with most Brits...
ProfWombat


Thank you, sir. My mom isn't one for pedantry. She may actually have met him, or maybe it was that french horn player pictured in the gimme folders from the music shop where I took lessons that she worked so hard to provide, even though she was a single working mom, and I suck....


GravatarSinf: have you ever heard the Tallis Scholars sing Tallis? Cross state lines to do so if you have a chance; they're transcendent.


Gravatarim not going to brush meh teeth tonight.

my little rebellion.


Gravatarellroon: gets back to the old trope of who loves the vets. By all evidence, Republicans don't, except to wrap themselves in the flag.
ProfWombat

Exactly.


GravatarThat sort of thing. Not meant to be insulting, just a statement of the obvious. Yes, women are supporting Hillary.

My deepest apologies. I misunderstood.


Gravatarthe paintings didn't bother me at all.


GravatarI wept openly. I believe it's the closest to the Divine I've ever been, hearing that in person in Powell Hall in St. Louis.

I once wept watching a ballet. (The Bolshoi). It was superlatively beautiful and the dance spoke more clearly than words could ever speak.


GravatarHello good people.


GravatarIt's still Friday here in the midwest, so I'll sneak in a catblogging pic.
FeralLiberal |

Your pic reminded me of this poster.


GravatarI'm uploading some tallis scholars for sinfonian right now...

Palestrina- Missa Benedicta es


Gravatar"Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis"

Here
Apostate


Thanks. It never occurred to me that it would have made YouTube.

I won't listen now ... have to be in the right mood. I'll wait until I get dumped via e-mail again or something.


Gravatar the Tallis Scholars sing Tallis?

I dig them.


GravatarHillary is commanding incredible loyalty from white women. This is skewing the racial results to make it look like Barack is having trouble attracting white voters.

The question is what will these hard core Clinton supporters do in November?

How many usually vote Republican and will vote for McCain in the General once its a contest between two men? How many will be so disappointed when Obama wins that they stay home?


GravatarSinf: have you ever heard the Tallis Scholars sing Tallis? Cross state lines to do so if you have a chance; they're transcendent.
ProfWombat


No, but I'll keep an eye out for them. Thanks.


GravatarWatching Judith Jamison dance Alvin Ailey's 'Cry' did that to me. Couldn't speak for an hour. Don't get that way often.


GravatarProfWombat,

I just thought the article interesting because it brought up a POV I had not heard expressed before. The skewing of statistics because of the loyalty of one group.

And yes, I can believe that women perceive much of the press comments as being anti-women. I have worked in the black community for three decades. I perceive MUCH of what is passing for criticism - some of it from the Clinton Camp - of Obama as racism.

In the end you just do the best you can. I only brought the article to people's attention because I perceive it to be positive news. The news media is trying to bury the Dems again and what this article is saying is that Barack (still the likely nominee) really does not have nearly the problem with white people voting for him that is being reported. That, to me, is good news.

Night


GravatarHillary is commanding incredible loyalty from white women.

Well, so we've got that in common.


GravatarA wise and holy old priest said that weeping at an experience of transcendant beauty (seeing tears on our faces after singing in Rome) is the touch of the divine.


GravatarHave you looked at this guy's other videos?


GravatarThe question is what will these hard core Clinton supporters do in November?

How many usually vote Republican and will vote for McCain in the General once its a contest between two men? How many will be so disappointed when Obama wins that they stay home?
The Old Man From Scene 24

If the nominee is Barack Obama they will vote for him. I say that without qualification for the contrast between a Democratic progressive and four more years of Bush is an easy choice.


GravatarThe question is what will these hard core Clinton supporters do in November?

How many usually vote Republican and will vote for McCain in the General once its a contest between two men? How many will be so disappointed when Obama wins that they stay home?

They'll probably vote Democratic, as the vast majority of most Democrats, regardless of whether they are white women.


GravatarThis BSG episode contains an illustration of Chicago Dyke's complaint about the mindless, useless fumbing of Greek myth. Zeus's "rape," far from being shocking, was as vital an element of the Patriarchal redefinition of sex as a sphere of masculine domination as the rapes of pretty much every other man in Greek mythology, and it is certainly weird to hear criticism of it from Baltar's mouth.


GravatarWatching Judith Jamison dance Alvin Ailey's 'Cry' did that to me. Couldn't speak for an hour. Don't get that way often.
ProfWombat


I came close to that after singing "Carmina Burana" a couple of weeks ago at the Knight Concert Hall in Miami.

Of course, as a first tenor, it shouldn't be surprising that I couldn't speak afterward. But it was an incredible experience. Nearly three thousand people fairly leapt to their feet as one to cheer as the last note faded away ... chills.


Gravatark&Y

Careful. You're coming mighty close to spoilers there.


GravatarCHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A tractor trailer that witnesses said didn't seem to slow down rammed into a crowded bus shelter and a Chicago Transit Authority rail station Friday during the evening rush hour, killing two people and injuring more than a dozen others.


Emergency personnel remove the wreckage of a tractor-trailer from the front of a Chicago rail station Friday.
"This is rush hour, so it's bad," Langford said.

Those killed, both women, were apparently walking near the Cermak-Chinatown Red Line station on the city's South Side, Fire Department spokeswoman Eve Rodriguez said. They were dead at the scene, she said.

Twenty-one people were transported to area hospitals, said fire department spokesman Larry Langford. Eleven were in critical condition, including four children, eight adults were in stable condition and two adults were in good condition.

Witnesses said the truck didn't appear to slow down before ramming into the station's stairwell


Gravatark&y remind me of this post of mine from below:

"Democrat vicotry" by any name smells pretty much the same, as the poet said.

Rev Wright was too kind, too hopeful.

If I believed in God I would say he damned America a long time ago. Nixon, Reagan, Billy Graham, and the two George Bushes have been fucking its corpse and making us pay to watch.

Reverend Wright is a conservative compared to me--and compared to every thinking person I know. So don't come in here with that weak shit, you strange little insect-like person.

(Why am I doing this?)


GravatarI came close to that after singing "Carmina Burana" a couple of weeks ago at the Knight Concert Hall in Miami.

Of course, as a first tenor, it shouldn't be surprising that I couldn't speak afterward. But it was an incredible experience. Nearly three thousand people fairly leapt to their feet as one to cheer as the last note faded away ... chills.
Sinfonian, Earl of Warren

My husband utterly loves Orff. I have to leave the room if I'm not in the mood, for his music walks right in and sits right down. It is so powerful.


Gravatarone of his playlists is filled with videos ( well, they are power points, probably) of modern artists works set to music.


Gravatarok, tallis scholars is up at my place


GravatarSinf: 'Carmina Burana' is one of those things that's so overplayed it's become a cliche. But a lot of things are cliches because they're true. And it's an amazing piece of music.


GravatarDick Cheney is an inhuman fascist psychopath.


GravatarSo don't come in here with that weak shit, you strange little insect-like person.

Oh, yeah? Well, fuck you too.


GravatarBeloved Dimocrat LBJ instigated and presided over some 30,000 US combat deaths in Vietnam, over 7X our casualties in Iraq.

Beloved NPR "national treasure" and left-wing fraud Moyers was LBJ's main media guy.

you go, "progressive" liars and frauds!


Gravatarok, tallis scholars is up at my place
::matthew


Thanks, d00d.


GravatarDick Cheney is an inhuman fascist psychopath.
Duane V, Too Serious

Dr. So to you!


GravatarA wise and holy old priest said that weeping at an experience of transcendant beauty (seeing tears on our faces after singing in Rome) is the touch of the divine.

So true.


GravatarOh, yeah? Well, fuck you too.
Gregor Samsa


I don't believe I've had the pleasure...


GravatarSinf: 'Carmina Burana' is one of those things that's so overplayed it's become a cliche. But a lot of things are cliches because they're true. And it's an amazing piece of music.
ProfWombat


Every now and then we have to perform something "popular" ... keeps us in the black. But there's a reason "Carmina," the Mozart Requiem, the Brahms Requiem, Handel's Messiah, etc. are "popular."


GravatarHillary is commanding incredible loyalty from white women. This is skewing the racial results to make it look like Barack is having trouble attracting white voters.

Well I would hope that Democrats will vote for Obama in November, but much has been made recently of Clinton's popularity among so-called "Reagan Democrats" and the fierce loyalty she has among many women especially those of the baby boomer generation. I'm just wondering how many of those are "moderate" Republicans supporting Clinton because they want to see a woman in the White house.

(And please understand I'm not implying there's anything wrong with that, despite my problems with how she has run her campaign I think she is an extremely capable person and it seems reasonable to think that she would attract some non-crazy Republican women who want to see a woman in the Oval Office.)


GravatarOh Christ, I haven't been on this blog for more than 4 hours and the first comment I see is from Lubeandyankit.


GravatarI don't believe I've had the pleasure...

Shall we dance?


GravatarLook! The good news video that the Liberal Media are suppressing -- the ponies have been found. A whole field of them!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xY42U1FMmU


GravatarI get my kicks on Route 66


Gravatarlistening right now, ::matthew.

Amazing. Thanks again.


Gravatare2-e4


GravatarDid a signet ring feature prominently in The Man Without Qualities, or did I wait to long before giving up the drink?


GravatarSinf: they come to the Boston area every year, usually in a church. They are uniformly stunning in concert.


GravatarThis is the most erudite blog on the internets.


GravatarSpeaking of Tallis and music of that type I am always in awe of Allegri's Miserere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=x71jgMx0Mxc


GravatarThis is the most erudite blog on the internets.
Sinfonian


there is one other...


GravatarSeriously. The brain power of the regular commenters here is, at all times, inversely proportional to that of the trolls.


Gravatarlistening right now, ::matthew.

Amazing. Thanks again.
Sinfonian, Earl of Warren

Me, too.

Beautiful.


GravatarThis is the most erudite blog on the internets.
Sinfonian, Earl of Warren

Who youse callin' err rud ite?


GravatarBugger. Hate to leave this thread and your good company.

Night, bats...


GravatarHillary is commanding incredible loyalty from white women. This is skewing the racial results to make it look like Barack is having trouble attracting white voters.

Obama is getting over 90% - OVER NINETY PERCENT of the African American vote -


Gravatarthere is one other...
::matthew


Well, okay, other than Blast Off!, I mean. Thanks for the reminder.


GravatarFighting a war in the mists of a marijuana jungle?

http://blog.wired.com/defense/20...ng-weed- ca.html


GravatarI heard that sinfonian blogwhored once, can you believe it?


GravatarI love to go a-wandering
Along the mountain track...


GravatarI heard that sinfonian blogwhored once, can you believe it?

Shocking!


GravatarSpeaking of Tallis and music of that type I am always in awe of Allegri's Miserere

Oh, yeah.

I'm also a sucker for a requiem. And Palestrina, Gombert, Isaac.


GravatarWe're singing two Tallis motets at Mass this Sunday, coincidentally. "If ye love me" is one of those transcendant pieces of music like we've been talking about.

We'll be doing Messiah again this winter, baroque pitch, and the plan is to have the whole thing, choruses too, from memory. No books. That will be *electric.*


Gravatarwell, if you like art and classical music, you really need to check out this guy's you tube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiero


fantastic!


GravatarI'll blogwhore for eli, who hates us and would never stoop to our erudite level

http://multi-medium.net/2008/04/...d-in-fine- style


Gravatar"A week in politics at this level is an eternity."

Some old wardheeler turned pundit.

He's right. 'twas ever thus.

Unless something completely unexpected happens, Obama will be our candidate shortly.

Then will come the campaigning targeted at the GOP and McCain. Then will come the debates between Obama and McCain.

Every time the two meet, McCain will be eviscerated, and left at the podium, bruised and muttering.

If Obama can reduce him to one of his temper tantrum rages, so much the better.

Obama is not the President, yet.

But let us not concern ourselves too greatly about events today, tomorrow and the next day.

We have eternities of time left to us and to Obama, we can slip and stumble today and tomorrow and the next day and it will make no matter.

A week is an eternity and the voters have a short memory for such foolishness about flag pins and angry preachers.


GravatarThat's awesome, strawhat.

We're doing Mendelssohn's "Elijah" in the fall ... then a holiday concert with the Empire Brass in December.

Spring is still up in the air a bit, but we want to do an American thing, or maybe something commemorating the Haydn bicentennial. I've heard Bernstein's "Chichester Psalms" come up in discussion ...


GravatarWe're singing two Tallis motets at Mass this Sunday, coincidentally. "If ye love me" is one of those transcendant pieces of music like we've been talking about.

So lovely.

We'll be doing Messiah again this winter, baroque pitch, and the plan is to have the whole thing, choruses too, from memory. No books. That will be *electric.*

Wow.


GravatarI heard that sinfonian blogwhored once, can you believe it?
::matthew

But...

That'd be SO out of character...


GravatarA couple weeks ago we went to a young friend's master's recital -- she's finishing her MM in sacred music -- and she conducted a small choir in an evening with William Byrd, Tallis' colleague (teacher?). Oh my goodness. (Except for a couple showboatin' countertenors. What is it about countertenors?!?)


GravatarShit.

My battery is dead.


GravatarThis has been a blast, but I've got to sleep. Speedette (the greatest kid ever) has her first violin lesson in the morning. And I'm also out of cigarettes.

Gosh I love this place.

Deep thought: Chekhov would have made a really shitty blogger. But he sure could write.

Night all. Peace and love.


GravatarEvery time the two meet, McCain will be eviscerated, and left at the podium, bruised and muttering.

worse than Stockdale?


GravatarIf they set up the mics in the shower, I think I could sing one of these pieces...I did nessum dorma once


GravatarMy battery is dead.
HoneyBearKelly


long live the battery


GravatarHow come Atrios never does any Moody Blues?


GravatarOld Man, thanks for the link. It's really beautiful.

There's a hymn written by Luther in the biopic that is not in any hymnal, and I think it would be nice to do for Reformation Day.

It's in that more chanty/contemplative style, very different from "A Mighty Fortress."

Which they always have cheeseball arrangements for.


GravatarHow come Atrios never does any Moody Blues?
threadpicker


gotta get through a blue oyster cult backlog first


GravatarY'know, George Bush was eviscerated in two sets of debates.

I think we'll win, too. But debates aren't all that much. The amateurs talk of tactics. The pros talk of logistics.


GravatarSince cars have alternators the keep the battery charged while driving, how come we haven't figured out a way to run an electric car that charges its own batteries as it runs? A perpetual motion machine?


GravatarA good bit of the artwork featured in the video is by Vladimir Kush http://www.vladimirkush.com/

He's a brilliant Russian artist and former Soviet Army Soldier. We had the pleasure of meeting him in Maui several years ago. He's humble, smart, and very talented. Look him up at his studio the next time you're in Maui or Vegas.


Gravatar(Except for a couple showboatin' countertenors. What is it about countertenors?!?)
strawhat says ☮


If they were in a jazz band, they'd play trumpet.

My voice teacher in college explored the idea of turning me into a countertenor, as my head voice/falsetto is rather strong. I nixed the idea. The castrato lifestyle ain't for me ...


GravatarThis is the most erudite blog on the internets.
Sinfonian, Earl of Warren | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 12:46 am | #


sinf, you obviously forgot that i sometimes post here...


GravatarHans, a better question:

How come the fucker wasn't fucking aborted?


GravatarShit.

My battery is dead.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


Not. Gonna. Go. There.


Gravatargotta get through a blue oyster cult backlog first

oooooooh!


Gravatartucker:

great advice. Obamagasmics need to keep flitting and fluttering around their beloved Messiah, even as GodDamnAmeric Wright, et. al, get hung like albatrosses around your Messiah's neck...

Billary's doing it now, numbnuts


GravatarOld Man, thanks for the link. It's really beautiful.

Isn't it? Its so serene.


GravatarHow come Atrios never does any Moody Blues?
threadpicker


Here's some.


GravatarSince cars have alternators the keep the battery charged while driving, how come we haven't figured out a way to run an electric car that charges its own batteries as it runs? A perpetual motion machine?
angryspittle


IIRC, it's because there's always some lost energy in the transaction, and over time, the battery eventually dies, no matter what.


Gravatar"worse than Stockdale?"

Very likely. Remember, Stockdale was deaf as a post (that can really make you look and sound loopy at times. I speak from experience), and, frankly, really wasn't all that interested in being V.P., I suspect he was just doing Perot (was it?) a favor, knowing full well he was never going to be V.P.

My opinion of course, but as I recall, Stockdale didn't have nearly as many "senior moments" as has McCain.


Gravatarok, off to bed for me.

I've got 4 workers coming tomorrow to help me clear the jungle that is the south side of my property.


GravatarOh, Sinf, Elijah! I'd *love* to do Elijah. We don't do much Romantic music and it'd be *so* much fun to do some rip-roaring Romanticism.

The Creation is great fun -- we did that a few years back. Our conductor did that for his doctorate and the little "liner notes" he gave us during rehearsal were a riot. The first part represents primordial chaos, resolving to a big beautiful C Major chord -- and he tells the orchestra, okay, now I'm going to bring out the sun.


GravatarA perpetual motion machine?
angryspittle

yep, won't even happen with superconductors.


Gravatarangry: well, that's it. You generate a certain amount of energy that's needed to move the car forward. The trick is to waste as little of it as possible in radiated heat. And every time you change the energy's form--chemical to mechanical to electrical and so on--you have to lose some of it. First and second laws of thermodynamics. So, let's say you use a gas engine to turn a generator that makes electricity that powers an electric motor. It isn't necessarily a net gain over a direct drive.


Gravatar"Since cars have alternators the keep the battery charged while driving,
how come we haven't figured out a way to run an electric car that
charges its own batteries as it runs? A perpetual motion machine?
"

The immutable laws of Thermodynamics prevent that.

In the words of that noted Engineer, "Ye canna change the laws a' physics!"


GravatarI am clueless. Is that how hybrids work? Does the gas engine recharge the batteries as it runs?


Gravatarand he tells the orchestra, okay, now I'm going to bring out the sun.

strawhat says ☮




Well, you're invited to hear our "Elijah" in Miami in November.

And with that, I'm done. Morning comes early when my kids are here. Thanks for a transcendent thread indeed.

Catch you patriotz laterz.


GravatarI'm passing through DC this weekend - can anyone recommend a good Rest Area to visit?


GravatarSee, the erudition takes many forms. We segue from music to physics & engineering without a ripple. Damn.


GravatarNight, Sinf! Happy weekend with the kids!


GravatarI am clueless.
angryspittle | 04.26.08 - 1:00 am | #

Do you have to state the obvious?


GravatarHow come Atrios never does any Moody Blues?
threadpicker

Here's some.


Thanks. Now I need to see if that hit of windowpane is still any good.


GravatarLook at all these white men.


Gravatarmatthew::, thanks for that. I'm enjoying. That's being "in joy".


GravatarTime travel would solve the perpetual motion problem. The machine could continually go back to the point where it had the energy it just expended.


Gravatar


angryspittle


It's being worked on. In fact electric and hybrid cars do conserve energy but not very much of it. They're making better flywheels all the time though.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=x...feature=related

Ani.


GravatarA good bit of the artwork featured in the video is by Vladimir Kush


He's a magic realist!


GravatarI've been namestolen! Hurrah! It's like being invited to the party with the rest of the kool kidz.


GravatarHybrids have batteries and engines and motors. They're designed to recapture energy in braking, and to use batteries at low speeds. They save fuel because they're more efficient in traffic, at idle and at slow speeds.


GravatarSterling engines come close to perpetual motors if used with natural sources.


GravatarI don't understand how they recapture energy when braking.


GravatarI am clueless.
angryspittle | 04.26.08 - 1:00 am | #

Do you have to state the obvious?
Hans Castorp | 04.26.08 - 1:02 am | #

No kidding. LMAO.


Gravatarforget the white men


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-...2C8551& index=12


GravatarTime travel would solve the perpetual motion problem. The machine could continually go back to the point where it had the energy it just expended.
MP | 04.26.08 - 1:03 am | #


i hear you. i once took a corner so fast my headlights shown in thru the back window...


GravatarJesus guys, give me a break!

I ain't no mechanical engineer!


GravatarI don't understand how they recapture energy when braking.

A switch turns the motors into generators, no?


GravatarGood night all you wonderful ppls!


GravatarIs that how hybrids work? Does the gas engine recharge the batteries as it runs?

they use "regenerative braking" where instead of (or in addition to) regular brakes, the car is slowed by the electric motors basically working in reverse (becoming generators) which charges the batteries.

I'm sure there's plenty of other clever tricks they also use in the various models, but getting energy back in that way instead of just wasting it as heat is a big part of it.


GravatarI am clueless.
angryspittle | 04.26.08 - 1:00 am | #

Do you have to state the obvious?
Hans Castorp | 04.26.08 - 1:02 am | #

No kidding. LMAO.
strawhat says ☮ | 04.26.08 - 1:05 am | #
Ha! He puts the capital D in Dumb!


Gravatar"I don't understand how they recapture energy when braking."

There is, essentially, no difference between an electric motor and a electric generator. They both use the same principles.

When current is applied to the motor, it spins, driving the wheels, when you brake, the motor is not getting any current from the batteries. However, as it spins, it's now generating electricity and that is being routed to the batteries.

As a plus, there is some physical resistance in the whole generation business and that helps slow the car and saves wear and tear on the brake pads.


GravatarI am clueless.
angryspittle | 04.26.08 - 1:00 am | #

Do you have to state the obvious?
Hans Castorp | 04.26.08 - 1:02 am | #

No kidding. LMAO.
strawhat says ☮ | 04.26.08 - 1:05 am | #
Ha! He puts the capital D in Dumb!
Henry Flower | 04.26.08 - 1:09 am | #

Get him a spot on Dumb and Dumberer!!!!


GravatarDamn, you guys are brutal.


GravatarI don't understand how they recapture energy when braking.


Fugitive energy law.
-


GravatarI am a time traveler. One way.

Once we harness vacuum power and move a few stars around THEN we can do some cool time travel.


Gravatarangry: takes energy to turn an armature in a generator to make electricity. So when a hybrid brakes, it uses the kinetic energy of the car to turn a generator and charge the battery, slowing the car simultaneously.

Stirling engines aren't close to 100% efficient in practice, and need heat exchangers which add a lot of bulk. Wiki has a good article on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Sti...Stirling_engine


GravatarDamn, you guys are brutal.

We are being namestolen


GravatarProfWambat,

Thank you for a reasonable response without belittling me.


GravatarHey, I was namestolen!

What do I win?


GravatarI am clueless.
angryspittle | 04.26.08 - 1:00 am | #

Do you have to state the obvious?
Hans Castorp | 04.26.08 - 1:02 am | #

No kidding. LMAO.
strawhat says ☮ | 04.26.08 - 1:05 am | #
Ha! He puts the capital D in Dumb!
Henry Flower | 04.26.08 - 1:09 am | #

Get him a spot on Dumb and Dumberer!!!!
The Old Man From Scene 24 | 04.26.08 - 1:11 am | #

Or the triquel - Dumb and Dumberer and Dumbest!


Gravatar"Once we harness vacuum power..."

Oh, yeah, like that Dyson fellow is gonna tell you the secret behind his carpet sweepers!

Dream on, you DFH!


Gravataralways a pleasure


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=n...feature=related


GravatarOnce we harness vacuum power

We can already pick up bowling balls. Whaddya want?


GravatarThank you for a reasonable response without belittling me.
angryspittle | 04.26.08 - 1:14 am | #

Someone fetch a crying towel for the new guy.


GravatarStirling engines aren't close to 100% efficient in practice, and need heat exchangers which add a lot of bulk.

I always thought it a pity stirlings don't work well without big differences in temp on the hot and cold side. My bright idea was pumping the heat out of server farms into stirling engines. If you could recover 5% of the energy you could cut electricity bills hundreds of thousand per month per facility for large farms.


GravatarFuckin' goddamn shitty-ass shit.


Gravatar"What do I win?"

The satisfaction in knowing that you pissed off a troll so much, that namestealing is the only way they can "get back" at you.


GravatarThe wasted energy of these computers we're using right now is substantial. People have made a lot of money finding ways to duct it away from the processors.


GravatarBy the way, did you know that ALL trolls have tiny, useless penises?

It's true!


GravatarChris Tucker

Well, I'll have to do it again, then.

I've never been namestolen before.


GravatarHenry Flower | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 1:15 am | #

Wow.

Fuckin' goddamn shitty-ass shit.

Sorry -- I didn't see you sitting there!


GravatarBy the way, did you know that ALL trolls have tiny, useless penises?

It's true!

Chris Tucker | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 1:18 am | #

I know because I like to suck them.


GravatarMike: not a bad idea.

I have an air conditioning unit on one side of the house, and a heat pump for the swimming pool on the other side. Galls me every time I think about it that they're duplicates, or that I can't get the heat pumped out of the house into the hot water tank.


GravatarThe wasted energy of these computers we're using right now is substantial. People have made a lot of money finding ways to duct it away from the processors.
MP


Thenewer ones are cooler, though.. the curve improves


GravatarI can't get the heat pumped out of the house into the hot water tank.
ProfWombat


Closed unit systems are pretty cool, if you have the space. Actually, I thinks Chimpy's fake ranch has one.


GravatarAnd so forth.

G'night. Have fun with the trolls.


GravatarBush and Cheney are trying to terrorize the American people again..To justify another massacre, this time of innocent Iranians.If they are not stopped we will rue the day...


GravatarAlbert Antoinette Gore, Jr., speaking to the world's poor, those unfortunates suddenly starving of cereal grain due to Gore's "global warming" hoax:

"You people that Paul Ehrlich didn't want here in the first place, well, it's an inconvenient truth for you, but Earth's in the balance, uh-huh, and just think how your martrydom will benefit my Mommy Gaia, uh-huh..."


GravatarSee, Lubby and his tiny & useless penis are SO frustrated at having the reality of how this election is going to play out rubbed in his face, the only thing he can do is impugn my sexuality, as if calling me gay was any kind of insult.

You see, people like Lubby and his tiny & useless penis think there is something shameful in being gay.

He can't possibly comprehend that I'd MUCH rather have a shitheaded bigot like him think I'm gay, rather than have a gay person think I'm a shitheaded bigot like Lubby and his tiny & useless penis.


GravatarThis one's a little freaky.

Was Modigliani represented in that Woman in Art video?


GravatarSee, Lubby and his tiny & useless penis are SO frustrated at having the reality of how this election is going to play out rubbed in his face, the only thing he can do is impugn my sexuality, as if calling me gay was any kind of insult.

You see, people like Lubby and his tiny & useless penis think there is something shameful in being gay.

He can't possibly comprehend that I'd MUCH rather have a shitheaded bigot like him think I'm gay, rather than have a gay person think I'm a shitheaded bigot like Lubby and his tiny & useless penis.
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 1:23 am | #

Does anyone get the impression that I'm obsessed with tiny penis?


GravatarReally they're just water-based heat exchanger systems.


GravatarWhat (the real) Chris Tucker said.


GravatarDoes anyone get the impression that I'm obsessed with tiny penis?

yes, troll, you probably are.


Gravataror that I can't get the heat pumped out of the house into the hot water tank.
ProfWombat | 04.26.08 - 1:19 am | #


my son is in the geothermal field. pretty soon all new homes built will have it as standard equipment. around here anyway for sure...


GravatarThese bastards are gonna hit Iran.

Then all bets are off.


GravatarGoodnite, Atriots. See you on the morrow..


Gravatar"Does anyone get the impression that I'm obsessed with tiny penis?"

You're the one talking about cocksucking, not me.




GravatarThese bastards are gonna hit Iran.

Horseshit. I just don't believe that.


GravatarUmmmmmm... tiny penis....


GravatarHorseshit. I just don't believe that.

Well i once thought that they couldn't possibly be so stupid as to invade Iraq...


Gravatarmodigliani @ 2:39, i'd say


sort of freaky, but i like them


Gravatar'night, all


GravatarHaven't the last 7 years taught you anything about these crazy motherfuckers? They are liable to do anything. I wouldn't put anything past these cretinous psychopathic bastards.


GravatarWell i once thought that they couldn't possibly be so stupid as to invade Iraq...
The Old Man From Scene 24


It would guarantee a Democratic victory in November. The shiny chromework is dingy right now on beating wardrums right now.

Not that it won't come back later.


GravatarI may get out of here and see what's going on at the Rest Area off 95, exit 240. Anyone game?


Gravatarsort of freaky, but i like them


One of my embroideries has flowers looking at you and a plane buzzing around the flower pot. It didn't come out right because the background doesn't work.


GravatarAnother thing that really pisses off the trolls is that liberals like us have the most fantastic sex lives.

And we don't have to pay for sex, like Republicans, nor do we have to furtively slink around public toilets looking for sex, like Republicans.

We have willing partners who enjoy sex, and who often initiate it.

Compare and contrast to the poor troll. Even the crack whores who will deign to service Lubby and his tiny, useless penis, well, they laugh and point and eventually, they give up, keep his money, steal his Cheetos and stroll away, knowing the Lubby and his tiny, useless penis, are so obese, he can't do anything about it.


GravatarOne of my embroideries has flowers looking at you and a plane buzzing around the flower pot. It didn't come out right because the background doesn't work.


you should see the mistakes i make.

can't even begin to describe them.

::

do you have a pic?


GravatarTiny penis....
..in my behind...
makes me feel happy...
...makes me feel fine..


GravatarWe have willing partners who enjoy sex, and who often initiate it.
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 1:33 am | #

At least that's how all us faggots lurking in the bushes at rest Areas feel about it.

Ummmm. tiny penis!


GravatarTime to check the BitTorrent downloads, take my bedtime pills and off to sleep.

That's where I'm a VIKING!


GravatarI'm not sure when the entire annual budget of the US government hit 12 billion dollars, probably in the 1920's or 30's.

We're spending that in one month, on one "project", which will, in all liklihood, have zero return on investment.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=j...feature=related


there's a whole art subculture on you tube


Gravatarsweet dreams, VIKING!


GravatarWell, the namestealer FINALLY added my homepage.

But, as Lubby and his Tiny and Useless penis realize, if you don't have the Gravitar, ain't nobody buying it for a second.

To quote that noted theologian and prolific author, Jack Chick:

HAW! HAW! HAW!


GravatarAnd finally, just to anoy and confuse the trolls one last time, a quote from one of my favorite diarists:

"And so to bed!"


Gravatardo you have a pic?

Here:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/2yHURSdQ.jpg


Gravatarwhy doesn't that work?

it works for me


GravatarThis troll bitchslapped the shit out of me. I'm going to bed.


GravatarHenry, I wanted the viewer to feel as if he or she was the one being viewed. Like we are the animals in the zoo and the animals watch us and point at our follies. Don't think it quite got there, but I like the postcardy quality, as it was something I was also aiming at.


Gravatarthe flowers are definitely looking at me.

the background is flat, but it doesn't take away. in fact, if you put anything there, it really would distract because it would get too busy


GravatarYou may be right, Henry Flower. Heh.


GravatarI'm going to fold my petals and go to sleep.

Good night, everyone.


Gravatarhehe

thank you for a beautiful video which led me to a wonderful evening's exploration


GravatarAs a Handsome-American I am enraged that polls don't factor in the importance of the small, yet significant, import of the Handsome-American vote.


GravatarWalterNeff, you handsome American, you totally rock.


Gravatarfor some reason I thought you were a handsome Kiwi.


GravatarAli should watch her mail box


GravatarI am camping beside my mailbox right now.


Gravataranything happen while i was on a road trip?

saw a herd of at least 20 elk n. of roseburg


GravatarKewl. We don't have elk around here. Not many moose, either. All we ever see are bears and deer, bears and deer.


GravatarAli: Yank who grew up in NZ and returns frequently


GravatarKiwi accent?


GravatarJohnson can't possible win this election after that incredible Viet Nam fuckup. Bush, on the other hand, doesn't have the moral fortitude to step down when he's been shown to be a mass-murderer. that's the difference between republicans (no morals) and democrats (real human qualities).


Gravatarand the fact that I used Johnson as an example of a failure shows the extent of my ignorance of history, as well as my hyper-partisanship.


GravatarAdd to that my racism, and you have here the modern-day rightwing troll. It's really no wonder this is the only social life I have, here at this blog where everybody is smarter and better than me.


GravatarI like to puff peters.


GravatarMcCainiacs are wondering how their hero makes it from room to room, given his obvious mental disabiities. This is the best the Republicans have? I may go suck off Ron Paul.


GravatarLubyanka speaks for me.


GravatarReverend Wright on Bill Moyers says he and other pastors of his church have received death threats and the church has received several bomb threats.


GravatarSo many cocks, so little time. Sheesh.


GravatarReverend Wright on Bill Moyers says he and other pastors of his church have received death threats and the church has received several bomb threats.

Undoubtedly from compassionate conservative Christians.


GravatarFri night troll fest, eh? Rats.


GravatarAs a Handsome-American I am enraged that polls don't factor in the importance of the small, yet significant, import of the Handsome-American vote.

They ignore the centaur vote too.

Really ticks me off.


Gravatar4LG, good...what? to me, it's evening (though it's 12:11 a.m.)

Anyway, greetings.


Gravatarfinally some regular people
Hello Sarah Deere and fourlegsgood!
What did I miss today?


Gravatarfourlegs, were doing the same thing today. bot mtg


GravatarErin, pretty much the Usual Shit. What passes for news in this country is a lot like the soap operas, down to the Big Surprises on Friday, except that the soaps set up something really interesting for the following week rather than burying shit like the gov't does, hoping our short-term memories will have forgotten everything come Monday morning.


GravatarObama is getting over 90% - OVER NINETY PERCENT of the African American vote -
Mental Gymnasst | 04.26.08 - 12:47 am | #

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Damn, Michael Steele is actually the junior Senator from Maryland, and we just don't know it, huh?


GravatarListen folks, Amanda is probably feeling bummed out tonight, seeing as all of the feminist haters she has created and encouraged over the years have turned on Amanda for the blatantly racist imagery in her new "book".

So let's be nice to her. Whatever you do, don't mention all the people, left, libertarian, conservative, gay, straight, transgendered, of color that have complained of her bullying and lies and smears.

Why don't you go over to her site and let her know she has your support, because we all know a core principle of liberalism is to protect our racist and sexist friends from criticism.

But it's also nice to see that the hate she has encouraged has come back to aim it self at her.

Worse person in the world? Not by a long shot. But a truly disgusting individual? Yeah, Atrios' friend, Amanda Marcotte.


GravatarGail Collins: McCain's Compassion Tour.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/2....html?th& emc=th


GravatarI wonder if there were Texans in 2000 that thought, damn, if those suckers will just vote this idiot into the White House then he'll be mostly out of Texas and maybe we can fumigate...

And if there are people in Arizona thinking the same sort of thing about McCain...


GravatarBarack Obama needed to expect being kneecapped in his bid for the Oval Office. I admit, though, that I thought it would come from the RNC, not the DLC.


GravatarHi Sarah, hi Erin


GravatarPortland's late-night contingent rawks!


GravatarBarack Obama needed to expect being kneecapped in his bid for the Oval Office. I admit, though, that I thought it would come from the RNC, not the DLC.
MP | 04.26.08 - 3:33 am | #


What kills me is that most of the democratic party will yawn and say, oh, that's just politics.

We had 2 really good candidates!!

fuck that. I don't want someone who's willing to do that shit to a colleague to get ahead


GravatarPortland's late-night contingent rawks!
plantsman,


Speaking as a former Portlander, I agree


Gravatarhey plantsman!

4LG, the world - and certainly the US of A, has gotten ever so much more nasty under the Little Pissant. I actually see it at work. So muchmore of the "fuck you and hooray for me" mentality.


GravatarWhat is it with the Marines and their women soldiers? Will they ever learn to take this stuff seriously!?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/...r=1& oref=slogin


GravatarSo ya know what?

Barack Obama AND Hillary Clinton have been truly shitty candidates.

Examining their records, neither has demonstrated any leadership. Both have run very conservative campaigns.

One got a lot of press because he is black. The other because she has a vagina.

Obama is very close to Joe. And Obama's committee never met once.

If these people were white males, you would be complaining about how close both are to lobbyists, to corporations, and you would be seeking a Democrat from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.

So cut the crap and get rid of your mancrush.


GravatarAt the hastily held news conference in Solana Beach, CA after yesterday's fatal shark attack on a triathelete in training, poor Professor Emeritus
Rosenblatt
of Scripps Institution got lobbed some of the craziest questions imaginable ("Why would a mother shark do that?") I felt for the old guy.


Gravatarfuck off troll


GravatarWhy do I get the feeling Actual Liberal isn't one?


Gravatarthe person in the race close to lobbyists is Hillary


Gravatarfuck that. I don't want someone who's willing to do that shit to a colleague to get ahead
fourlegsgood, on the fringe


Not just the pledged delegates, the popular vote, the number of states won, but the money factor is going to make her campaign even more desperate.

She's rolling the dice completely toward a superdelegate end run.

Wow, what a "movement" that would be.


GravatarRosenblatt of Scripps Institution got lobbed some of the craziest questions imaginable ("Why would a mother shark do that?") I felt for the old guy.

Ummm, she was hungry and she thought he was a seal?


GravatarWell, aside from McCain, who has 66 corporate lobbyists on his campaign staff.


GravatarWill they ever learn to take this stuff seriously!?

um, no. Not just the Marines, either.


GravatarCorrect, fourlegs!


GravatarNot just the pledged delegates, the popular vote, the number of states won, but the money factor is going to make her campaign even more desperate.

She's rolling the dice completely toward a superdelegate end run.

Wow, what a "movement" that would be.


I just find it stunning that she thinks that that is an acceptable thing to do.

It will break the party. maybe permanently.

I'm gonna blame the people who egged her on in this insane quest


GravatarShe's rolling the dice completely toward a superdelegate end run.

This seems deeply wrong. Goes back to the old saw about how if voting could change anything, it would be illegal.


GravatarIf she sues to try to get into the White House, after the nightmare of 2000, I'm completely finished with the Democrats.


GravatarThe "good times" of the Clinton presidency came at a huge emotional cost of slack-cutting and mulligan-tolerating that seems to follow them everywhere. Their willingness to stomp on the goodwill and support of American-Americans amazes me.


GravatarIf she sues to try to get into the White House, after the nightmare of 2000, I'm completely finished with the Democrats.

You and a lot of people.

We tell people that we're the party of honesty and decency and that we play fair.

We're not like those nasty republicans.


But it's not true. Our policies aren't as destructive, but the truth is the democratic party is just as mobbed up with corporate corruption as the republican party.


Gravatar4LG

Did ya see my earlier post:

It was 60 degrees here yesterday, yard was all thawed out.

This is today.


GravatarI hate to break the news to you, but the race for pledged delegates ended awhile ago. Neither candidate can win with pledged delegates.

Both candidates are aiming for a superdelegate finish, they have to, and they are following the rules.

I know you don't know the rules, or hate the rules, but the Democrats in the case of a tie like this, have a group of people they use to break that tie. These people can use astrology, or patterns in delegates, states, or popular votes, or anything they want to to pick who they feel the best candidate is.

Chances are your candidate sucks.

Why do you think I'm not an actual liberal? Depends on if you mean dipshitted, kool-aid drinking, fucktard that likes to bully others. Nope, I'm not that kind of liberal, that's the douchebags in this forum and over at the Big Orange.

But if by a "Liberal" you mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what you mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

And you're a fucktard.


GravatarDon't feel alone, Barry; northern Minnesota went thru much the same thing yesterday.


GravatarTheir willingness to stomp on the goodwill and support of American-Americans amazes me.

They don't care- they think we owe them our fealty and our thanks.

Have you guys seen this:

Settling Scores
If Hillary Clinton finds a way to win, she'll have a long list of grudges and grievances.


Just what we need, another petulant, score settling asshole in the WH.

Not that she'll win anyway. Independents won't vote for her and blacks will stay home.


GravatarDon't feel alone, Barry; northern Minnesota went thru much the same thing yesterday.
plantsman,


It isn't supposed to be like this

Previous record for April 25 snow was 1.8 inches.

We got at least 10 here today, another 8 to 15 predicted for tonight.

My visitor from Holland is all freaked out


GravatarDid ya see my earlier post:

It was 60 degrees here yesterday, yard was all thawed out.

This is today.


Oh my. No, I didn't see that.

It was 85 and 90 % humidity here today. Really miserable.


GravatarJust what we need, another petulant, score settling asshole in the WH.

Only one bunch of assholes to settle the score with in my book, its all the dicks who lose their jobs on Jan 20 next.

One nice thing about impeachment, you can still slam a guy even after he's outta office.


GravatarOhh, I'm a fucktard.....I'm crushed. There were plenty of white male Democratic candidates this time around, and none of them could garner enough support with voters to make a decent showing in the primaries and caucuses. Then there's the GOP field of laughable losers - McCain contradicted himself so many times just yesterday it's doubtful he could find his way out of Larry Craig's stall......


GravatarGee, imagine a universe where instead of going all scorched earth, HIllary had decided to concede in March, and had spent the past two months campaigning for Obama and convincing her constituency that he would be a great president?

I'm thinking she'd be the most respected person in the party.

And we would be coasting towards November.


Gravatarplantsman,
well put, my friend


GravatarI'm thinking she'd be the most respected person in the party.

guess they want us to see every inch of her ass


GravatarOnly one bunch of assholes to settle the score with in my book, its all the dicks who lose their jobs on Jan 20 next.

One nice thing about impeachment, you can still slam a guy even after he's outta office.


Yeah, except that we won't.

We'll still be keeping our powder dry and making excuses for why we let a few assholes throw the country's future away.


GravatarIt's particularly frustrating here where the Vaginistas forgive everything she does and frame any dissent as misogyny -- but that's nother story.


Gravatarthe truth is the democratic party is just as mobbed up with corporate corruption as the republican party.

you got that right.

Hi Barry!!


Gravatarguess they want us to see every inch of her ass

No, the clintons want us to kiss every inch of her ass.


I'm feeling very angry and betrayed by the party.

If they do this, not one thin dime from me ever. I am not going to cowboy up one more time for the establishment candidate.

Not gonna do it.


GravatarVaginistas? Yeah, you really are a liberal.


GravatarThe superdelegate system is horseshit anyway. Fucking House of Lords.


GravatarKeithO took a drubbing here yesterday for something he said about Hillary Wednesday night. Because I was interested in hearing what Rep. James Clyburn had to say, I tuned into the rebroadcast of Countdown at 11pm Pacific. Keith apologized for his poor turn of phrase on Wednesday.


GravatarIt's particularly frustrating here where the Vaginistas forgive everything she does and frame any dissent as misogyny -- but that's nother story.

I've been going 20 rounds with the Hillary bots myself.

Not just here, but in meatspace as well.

They've projected every struggle they've ever gone through onto her, and ain't nuthin gonna talk them out of it.

I guess they're willing to let the country burn on the alter of their crusade for Hillary.


GravatarThey call themselves Vaginistas. Another sign you're out of your element, troll.


Gravatartype erase type erase


GravatarKeithO took a drubbing here yesterday for something he said about Hillary Wednesday night. Because I was interested in hearing what Rep. James Clyburn had to say, I tuned into the rebroadcast of Countdown at 11pm Pacific. Keith apologized for his poor turn of phrase on Wednesday.

I'm sorry, and many of the Hillary camp are good friends of mine, but they've gone fucking insane.


GravatarHow can McAuliffe *possibly* think that Michigan is on the table. Obama wasn't even on the ballot, because, unlike Clinton, he agreed to abide by the party's rules.


GravatarThey call themselves Vaginistas.

Do they now?

good grief


Gravatar"They" have "decided" Obama can't win because "the country is not ready for a Black president".

huh.


GravatarHow can McAuliffe *possibly* think that Michigan is on the table. Obama wasn't even on the ballot, because, unlike Clinton, he agreed to abide by the party's rules.

Clinton agreed to abide by them too."

He's the biggest asshole of the bunch


GravatarI know, a certain woman here has a real problem with men using the word periodically , says it's always a gender slam. But, even someone as remotely connected to female physiology as me knows that 60-year-old women who menstruate are few and far between, so the whole "hormone-crazed" canard doesn't hold water. But try using reason,....


GravatarThe kneecapping analogy is apt.
If you want to be the star quarterback, you don't fuck with your center and guards....your protectors, i.e. MoveOn, Code Pink and the "Democratic Activists."


GravatarI don't know what "they've" decided.

I know Hillary decided that her only hope was to try to make him unelectable, and then running around screaming, "ZOMG!!! he's unelectable!!"


GravatarYes, NTodd even used it in his nym for a while.


GravatarThe hell they do. Show us three places where they are calling themselves vaginistas. You've been huffing fourlegsgood's vagisil again, haven't you?


Gravatarplantsman, not worth going there.


GravatarI know, a certain woman here has a real problem with men using the word periodically , says it's always a gender slam.

I say it all the time.

And I'm NEVER thinking of gender. That's just horseshit.

At this point they're just looking for slights- it gives them an excuse to overlook her indefensible conduct.


GravatarHillary Clinton, October 7, 2007: "Now, everyone knows the vote in Michigan isn't going to count for anything." . It's on videotape, she's dead to rights.


GravatarActual Liberal

Fuck off troll.


GravatarHillary Clinton, October 7, 2007: "Now, everyone knows the vote in Michigan isn't going to count for anything." . It's on videotape, she's dead to rights.

It's worse than that.

She signed a pledge, along with Edwards and Obama.


GravatarActual, I ain't searching through the archives for your tired ass. Luxuriate in your ignorance.


Gravatarplantsman, not worth going there.

Yeah, it's really not.


GravatarHillary Clinton, October 7, 2007: "Now, everyone knows the vote in Michigan isn't going to count for anything." . It's on videotape, she's dead to rights.
plantsman


Changing the rules mid-game is cheating to win. It's *precidely* the thing we're trying to change in this country. The Clintons just want power back, I'm convinced.


Gravatarplantsman, we picked up some Zeus hops from Portland Nursery. When to plant with this wacky weather? Ran into heavy hail storm that ran people off I-5 last weekend. nutty. Usually my beautiful wisteria is in full bloom, and I'm sipping wine on the deck in between showers.


GravatarI don't care what they're calling themselves these days.

They've gone wompy.


GravatarMy visitor from Holland is all freaked out

Barry from Alaska SNOW!!! | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:53 am | #

Don't you mean The Netherlands?


GravatarChanging the rules mid-game is cheating to win. It's *precidely* the thing we're trying to change in this country. The Clintons just want power back, I'm convinced.

It's sad.

We tell people in this country that if they work hard and play by the rules, their future is unlimited.

But it's not true.

The party doesn't want to change things at all.

They just want to retake control. And while they're happy to take our money and our votes, we can forget about having any say in what happens.


GravatarI think that photo of Alaska is gorgeous.

I love snow.


GravatarErin, this weekend looks good, even with the moon waning. Hops are easy to grow around here, so prep your soil, plug them in and stand back!

I'm in a similar position with meds as I was in late January, hoping like hell to make it until Friday - damning myself for buying those shoes I needed.
If I go wobbly, that's why.


GravatarI'm really gaii.


GravatarToby, you can't be gay if you're by yourself. Get a date.


GravatarErin, this weekend is supposed to be nice - (next coupla days) - what part of town do you live in? I ask to find out what your soil is like.

I have a strong interest in gardening (a little - no big huge plans - just want to get hands in the earth and plant some flowers and herbs, maybe a perennial or two or three) this spring/summer.


GravatarKeithO took a drubbing here yesterday for something he said about Hillary Wednesday night. Because I was interested in hearing what Rep. James Clyburn had to say, I tuned into the rebroadcast of Countdown at 11pm Pacific. Keith apologized for his poor turn of phrase on Wednesday.
plantsman,


You have to give him credit for that. He even had himself as "worst person" one night, the man is able to do a bit so self reflection/examination that is missing from almost everyone else on the teebee box.


GravatarInteresting thing I saw in the Pennsylvania exit polls. A majority of Obama voters said they would still vote for Hillary in November, so that the party could win.

The reverse was not true of Hillary voters.


GravatarErin's crew enjoys brew, so hops grown might well be harvested.


GravatarDon't you mean The Netherlands?
Gilly Gonzylon


I do, but Holland is easier to type.


GravatarYou have to give him credit for that. He even had himself as "worst person" one night, the man is able to do a bit so self reflection/examination that is missing from almost everyone else on the teebee box.

I do.

He doesn't bother me a bit, but then again, I'm so angry at Hillary that I like listening to anyone that will have a go at her.


GravatarYou and me both, 4LG; I get so tired from holding my tongue at Eschaton I could choke!


GravatarDutch Farmers (many of whom grow flower-bulb crops) are incredibly productive on small amounts of land. It's amazing!


GravatarInteresting thing I saw in the Pennsylvania exit polls. A majority of Obama voters said they would still vote for Hillary in November, so that the party could win.

The reverse was not true of Hillary voters.
MP


Well, she's convinced them he's the closest thing to Ebola walking on two legs.

Anyway, she's full of crap- if she steals it, blacks will stay home in droves.

And then we'll get to say hello to Preznit Lumpyhaid McCain.


Gravatarhops are really pretty, I think. I can imagine growing them just for the pleasure of it, have them growing up and over a frame on the patio/deck thingy.


GravatarI'm sure I've made enemies, but at least I have principles.


GravatarIt's that scorched earth "Hillary wins, or McCain wins, take your pick" grabbiness of that campaign that really turns me off about anything valuable she might have to say.


GravatarI think that photo of Alaska is gorgeous.

I love snow.
fourlegsgood, on the fringe


I think Sebastian was enjoying it a bit, but we didn't make any snowmen or have a snowball fight.

Still, he seemed to like it a bit.


GravatarThere's probably video of McCain contradicting himself yesterday at the Countdown Page at MSNBC.com -- it was sad/funny.


GravatarGolden Hops (Humulus lupulus "Aureus") are my favorite to gaze upon. I love pairing them with the dark purple-flowered Clematis jackmanii for an eye-popping living tapestry


GravatarStill, he seemed to like it a bit.

Oh, nice!

He's all like, "this is spring?"


GravatarIt's that scorched earth "Hillary wins, or McCain wins, take your pick" grabbiness of that campaign that really turns me off about anything valuable she might have to say.

I don't believe anything she says anymore.

Nothing.


GravatarGolden Hops (Humulus lupulus "Aureus") are my favorite to gaze upon. I love pairing them with the dark purple-flowered Clematis jackmanii for an eye-popping living tapestry
plantsman


We planted some, I think what they call "knockout" roses in the front a couple of years back, and they are some of the best behaved plants I've ever seen. Take winters well, very long showy season. I love them.


GravatarOh, nice!

He's all like, "this is spring?"
fourlegsgood, on the fringe


Hee hee, he got here Sunday evening, and we didn't go anywhere all week if it wasn't in the convertible with the top down.

Today, twas different, nothing but 4WD.


GravatarSome wag yesterday talked of using nonsense expletives -- he chose "lupid" -- because they have no meaning, in arguments. My mind of course made the "lup"/"wolf" connection immediately and started trying to make it mean something.


GravatarSarah Deere, SW lowlands. Quite a bit of clay here so we have to add soil, etc.


Gravatartake care, nite nite


GravatarNight, night; Erin.


GravatarThis area is known for its azaleas. Many streets are named after that plant.

They are on fire right now. Just gorgeous.


GravatarErin, I'm too lazy (and too inmfirm) to do more than amend the planting area. I'm thinking of planting a couple of rugosa roses - tough and drought-hardy. I love it that Portland had planted them along the freeways, like from the Fremont Br. heading on I-5 South....


GravatarAzaleas and Rhodies normally do well here, so people often pop them into unlikely spots like full sun un-thinkingly, expecting them to just adapt.


GravatarI wish I had a little garden.

oh well, time 4 bed.


Gravatar'night, Erin - sleep tight. Sweet dreams.


GravatarSarah, some of the most venerable Rugosas are awfully hard to beat. Blanc Double du Coubert (?) , a lovely double white comes to mind. Unlike modern hybrid roses, they rather resent all but expert pruning, meaning they are easy to care for, in the main.


Gravatar'night, 4LG - sleep well, sweet dreams.


GravatarLace-cap hydrangeas are also a hardy plant. Sadly our gardenia looks kinda sick this Spring. We've gotten used to having its offerings as part of our dinner table centerpiece, over the years.


Gravatarfour legs, have you a place for a pot or 3? That's almost all I have anymore, but I've had my sweet bay tree, a flowering maple, and some other plants for years now - even without a decent garden spot.
If I could grow a Meyer Lemon in a pot, I would!


Gravataroh, thanks, plantsman! Mr Deere claims to "hate" roses, but I think he just means the fussy ones. Anyroad, I do intend to have me one or two rugosas!


GravatarGardenias are a treasure, and if you can grow one; count yourself blessed. Here, the small-flowered
( Kleim's Hardy ) hardy types are about all we can manage, and they often sulk terribly through the wet season.


Gravatarplantsman, from the time I was 12 - 16, my family lived in Houston TX, and my mom grew gardenias. We pre- and post-pubescent little southern belles used to tuck a gardenia in our bras so we could smell the fragrance (and smell like the flower) all day


GravatarY'know, the Obama campaign is nothing if not well organized. On the Scrabulous website, I see an ad reminding me of Oregon's Voter Registration deadline currently. Well done!


GravatarY'know, the Obama campaign is nothing if not well organized.

And Clinton's has been a multi-track trainwreck, yet she's ready on day one.


GravatarWe had large-flowered gardenias in the NC town of my birth. We also had a Vicks Menthol-Lyptus flavored cough-drop factory. The two scents do not combine nicely, I'm sad to say.


GravatarI keep thinking, "Well, what about Day 2 ?"


GravatarWe also had a Vicks Menthol-Lyptus flavored cough-drop factory. The two scents do not combine nicely, I'm sad to say.

aw, geez!!! Horble!!


GravatarMajor Clinton fundraiser moves to Obama

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn...tches-to-obama/

"Looking at it as coldly as I can, I just don't see how Senator Clinton can overcome Senator Obama with delegates and popular votes. I want this fight to be over, the quicker the better."

Cold, hell, that's the only rational way to look at it.


GravatarHelicopters searching for signs of the shark that killed triathlete David Martin will continue scanning the coastline Saturday from the city of San Diego to Carlsbad, said Solana Beach Lifeguard Capt. Craig Miller.

The beaches remain closed and will be patrolled throughout the weekend, according to city and county officials.

Martin, 66, died on the beach Friday morning after a shark, presumed to be a great white, lifted him out of the water with his legs in its jaws, leaving deep lacerations and shredding Martin's black wetsuit.


GravatarWe're gonna need a bigger boat.


GravatarSharks vs The Jets


GravatarHow, I wonder if the Coast Guard helis spot a shark. are they supposed to determine if it's THE shark?
Will it be wearing a sandwich board saying, "I chopped the tourist?"


GravatarFellows, let's be reasonable, huh? This is not the time or the place to perform some kind of a half-assed autopsy on a fish... And I'm not going to stand here and see that thing cut open and see that little Kintner boy spill out all over the dock.


GravatarI finally found a video of McCain's stripper girlfriend from his Navy days. Cherry Night also stripped under the name the Florida Flame. I hope this comes up in the debates - or maybe the NC Dem party can run an ad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=3...feature=related


GravatarI don't care who John McCain watched strip; I care that he didn't give a damn for the victims of Katrina, let W give him a birthday cake rather than high tail it to New Orleans during the disaster, and lied about his votes against giving Katrina victims aid.


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