... here in the United States, we talk a lot but do very little. California passed an initial bond issue for high-speed rail in November, but even if the project goes ahead, you aren't likely to be able to ride it until well into the next decade. Citizen groups in the Midwest are pushing for several projects, although they would concentrate on upgrading existing lines for top speeds of around 110 to 125 miles per hour - well below the current European and Japanese standards - rather than genuine high-speed travel.
ms f,
Maybe where Thers is. We're on opposite ends of Queens: me with the babies in Bayside, he with the boy in Elmhurst. This was the deal, since he ran the teen to the Newark airport in the wee hours.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:16 am | #
What effect on mortgage interest rates would "bring[ing] mortgage rates down by more than 100 basis points" have? Anyone know?
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:16 am | #
Big hugs and kisses to my beloved Nashville Predators who last night mopped up the ice with the NHL's #1 team, the Detroit Red Wings. It was an awesome game.
Good work, fellas!!!
Southern Beale |
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12.27.08 - 10:17 am | #
Repost:
and if you don't pick 'em all immediately you won't get any because the fucking sparrows have got them all
Edited for accuracy.
Getting a harvest off the montmorcey required precise timing. Feathered fuckers.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:17 am | #
Can I say how much I hate WordPress?
Southern Beale |
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12.27.08 - 10:18 am | #
Herbert nails it:
Now that the reality of a stunning economic downturn has so roughly intervened, we at least have the option of being smarter going forward. There is broad agreement that we have no choice but to go much more deeply into debt to jump-start the economy. But we have tremendous choices as to how we use that debt.
We should use it to invest in the U.S. — in a world-class infrastructure (in its broadest sense) to serve as the platform for a world-class, 21st-century economy, and in a system of education that actually prepares American youngsters to deal successfully with the real world they will be encountering.
We need to invest in a health care system that improves the quality of American lives, enhances productivity, puts large numbers of additional people to work and eases the competitive burden of U.S. corporations.
We need to care for our environment (if long-term survival means anything to us) and get serious about weaning ourselves from foreign oil.
And, finally, we need to start living within our means and get past the nauseating idea that the essence of our culture and the be-all and end-all of the American economy is the limitless consumption of trashy consumer goods.
The same column would have been appropriate in 1984....
DFH in Dubrovnik |
12.27.08 - 10:20 am | #
And, finally, we need to start living within our means and get past the nauseating idea that the essence of our culture and the be-all and end-all of the American economy is the limitless consumption of trashy consumer goods.
It’s time to stop being stupid.
Falls down prostrate, kisses ground, weeps tears of joy.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.27.08 - 10:20 am | #
Oh, I found it. Uncle Blodge has reply.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
Molly - sent to your address ending in rr.com
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
It’s time to stop being stupid.
Commie.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:21 am | #
*twiddles thumbs*
*waits for troops to get home so they can go annoy someone else*
entertain me, people!
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:22 am | #
And, finally, we need to start living within our means and get past the nauseating idea that the essence of our culture and the be-all and end-all of the American economy is the limitless consumption of trashy consumer goods.
It’s time to stop being stupid.
What a dreamer.
Just finished reading Tom Bissell's "Chasing The Sea", which I highly recommend. About the largest ecological catastrophe of our time, the destruction of the Aral Sea.
He makes the point over and over again that good government is very much an exception to the rule.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:22 am | #
Okay, but what's that in percentages and APR?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 10:22 am | #
Molly! Hope Santa was good to Rosie!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.27.08 - 10:22 am | #
Hello from Toronto!
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:22 am | #
...and if you don't pick 'em all immediately you won't get any because the fucking sparrows have got them all.
Hadn't really noticed that problem here - it might be happening, but the sheer volume of cherries might cover it up.
I do see evidence of birds going after the peaches, though.
And we have a walnut tree we never get walnuts from because, just at the moment (I theorize) the casings are about to drop off, the squirrels strip the tree.
Santa was relatively restrained at Liberal Mountain this year, mostly be necessity.
The relatives, not so much.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:24 am | #
Wal-Mart confirmed Friday what everyone who follows Apple already knew: that it will begin selling Apple’s iPhone 3G at nearly 2,500 Wal-Mart stores starting Sunday Dec. 28 — three days after Christmas.
Wal-Mart will sell the red-hot mobile device for $197 for the 8GB model and $297 for the 16GB model, or $2 off their current prices.
Wow, Wal-mart does save you money!
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
ahhh the coffee has arrived
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
Please take time to reflect on all the skyscrapers that have collapsed into their own "footprint" from nervousness in the last month. And please be gentle and speak softly when you find yourself near a skyscraper.
Nervous No.7 |
12.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
The relatives, not so much.
Molly Ivors, in NYC
Children are for spoiling. Everyone knows this.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
get past the nauseating idea that the essence of our culture and the be-all and end-all of the American economy is the limitless consumption of trashy consumer goods
Well if people did that, they might re-develop a serious relationship with the natural world. And we can't have that, because then they'd see how degraded it's become due to . . . the limitless consumption of trashy consumer goods. And then they might start to think unkind, yea, even bannable, thoughts about the people who sold them this notion.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
Hadn't really noticed that problem here - it might be happening, but the sheer volume of cherries might cover it up
Dude, the Montmorcey would be absolutely covered with almost-ripe cherries, you could hardly see the leaves.
next day.. nada.
Fuckers.
We tried a net, but then you had to go out every couple of hours and free the little bastards.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:25 am | #
JR-- went to Guelph yesterday to visit a very ill relative. But that's as far as we got, and we had a rented van and driver, so going to Hamilton was out of the question. Doesn't look like I'll be able to get there, alas.
I like Toronto, tho. I'll be heading downtown in a bit, running around doing Toronto stuff.
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:26 am | #
We tried a net, but then you had to go out every couple of hours and free the little bastards
Or, get some good string, and tie strips of aluminum foil all through the tree.
That tends to scare off the most of them.
Barndog, relieved |
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12.27.08 - 10:26 am | #
I like Toronto, tho. I'll be heading downtown in a bit, running around doing Toronto stuff.
Moe Szyslak
I like Toronto.
not so fond, in general, of Torontonians.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:27 am | #
Santa was relatively restrained at Liberal Mountain this year...
Yep, Mother Buckner & I basically exchanged a pile of books, and spent the day reading and eating. A very nice day. (Haven't received anything from the relatives yet, but don't really care...)
bill buckner |
12.27.08 - 10:27 am | #
We tried a net, but then you had to go out every couple of hours and free the little bastards.
JR, kerosene and a match
Nah, let them hang there as a warning to the others.
I'm seriously down on squirrels, since they chewed some wiring in my car, and wrecked my dryer, by filling the vent with nuts.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:27 am | #
Moe, I'm really jealous now. Stop rubbing it in, and enjoy as much as you can.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:27 am | #
N O O D L E ! ! !
Lenore |
12.27.08 - 10:27 am | #
That tends to scare off the most of them.
Barndog
Aparently they were very brave sparrows..
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:27 am | #
...the Montmorcey would be absolutely covered with almost-ripe cherries, you could hardly see the leaves.
next day.. nada.
That sounds like our walnut tree. Don't have that problem with the cherry tree.
Moe! While ur in Toronto, would you please try and get me a real phone number for the Hudson Bay Company Foundation? They're at 401 Bay Street, Suite 1410, and the number I've got is just an answering machine. 861 4863. Try the phone book?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 10:28 am | #
Seriously. Doesn't fit in with Apple's previous marketting strategy at all.
Daughter got a Touch for Christmas. There's a defect in the WiFi software--one site has over 200 complaints regarding this, stretching over the past two years.
Wish I was a lawyer.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:29 am | #
I'm seriously down on squirrels, since they chewed some wiring in my car, and wrecked my dryer, by filling the vent with nuts.
Adam Hominem
A friend of mine had the racoons try to kill him.
They came in through the cat door one night and turned on the gas stove.
"Probably a good thing I didn't leave any matches out"
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:29 am | #
LMAO at JR's story
Jubilation T. Cornpone |
12.27.08 - 10:29 am | #
I'm going to the New Balance outlet store to buy some new running shoes. And then somewhere else to get some Doc Martin boots. This is what happens when the boy from the sticks goes to the big city-- shopping for stuff you can't get back home.
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:29 am | #
Aparently they were very brave sparrows.. - JR, kerosene and a match
Where's Rent-A-Raptor when you really need it?
bo |
12.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
GWPDA-- give me a sec...
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:30 am | #
Krugman strikes me as someone with a lot of energy, not unlike a four year old hopped up on candy
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
12.27.08 - 10:31 am | #
This is what happens when the boy from the sticks goes to the big city-- shopping for stuff you can't get back home.
Moe Szyslak
if you are looking for boots, look at a brand called Baffin.. very good boots, made in Canada.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:31 am | #
pfft. listen to a nobel laureate? that's like listening to al gore!
we luv dumbya and "we lift our souls up high!"
teh baby jeebus will bring teh mortgages back to normal rateZ.
mogwai |
12.27.08 - 10:31 am | #
The comparison made between Our Paul and The Godfather of Soul, James Brown, is effin' brilliant.
David Derbes, done till Jan! |
12.27.08 - 10:31 am | #
I'm going to the New Balance outlet store
[eyeroll] Between you and Obama's fitness routine, I'm going to end up jogging out of guilt.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:31 am | #
Where's Rent-A-Raptor when you really need it?
bo
two doors over.
But Rufus the Redtail Hawk was strictly into ground prey.
There were no squirrels....
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:32 am | #
Ms. Farenheit, well, I did just come back from Dunkie's...
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
12.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
Aw, how sweet. The dog just regurgitated bits of his tennis ball he ate the other day, right at my feet. I can feel the love.
Jubilation T. Cornpone |
12.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
There were no squirrels....
JR, kerosene and a match
I wonder if they're too big.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
if you are looking for boots, look at a brand called Baffin.. very good boots, made in Canada.
ROOTS!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 10:33 am | #
Head of Penn's trauma center killed in Chimpy's vanity war
ours apparently has very nimble teeth, because he never seems to eat any of the shreds.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:34 am | #
Aw, how sweet. The dog just regurgitated bits of his tennis ball he ate the other day, right at my feet. I can feel the love.
Jubilation T. Cornpone
Well, at least you didn't get to put a foot in it, one night on the way to the bathroom.
The cats love to puke in front of the bathroom door. I don't know why.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:34 am | #
I'm with G. Roots!
They made my cap, and it's workin' well, bought in 2004 in Montreal.
And isn't that town pronounced Trawna?
David Derbes, done till Jan! |
12.27.08 - 10:34 am | #
Aw, how sweet. The dog just regurgitated bits of his tennis ball he ate the other day, right at my feet. I can feel the love
Better than the cat barfing on the pillow above you while the wife and you make love...
Barndog, relieved |
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12.27.08 - 10:34 am | #
Daughter got a Touch for Christmas. There's a defect in the WiFi software--one site has over 200 complaints regarding this, stretching over the past two years.
One thing I can't complain about with Apple in regards to their iPods is, if you have a problem, they'll just give you a new one (at least that's been my wife's experience).
Molly has mail back
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 10:35 am | #
Sallyh
The guilt may be good for me, tho.
Happy holidays!
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:35 am | #
Oh my, Barndog. I laughed out loud at that one. I will count my blessings. LOL
Jubilation T. Cornpone |
12.27.08 - 10:35 am | #
I wonder if they're too big.
Adam Hominem
Not for a redtail. I've seen redatils fly off with full grow bunnies.
My friend's brother rescued one and hand raised it, taught it to hunt, etc. Even after he returned it to the wild, Rufus would fly overhead and call back to you if you whistled for him.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:35 am | #
And isn't that town pronounced Trawna?
Trawnta.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 10:36 am | #
The cats love to puke in front of the bathroom door. I don't know why.
Good point.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:37 am | #
I will count my blessings. LOL
And, the drag is - the cat is 19. Not like you can pitch her off the bed after that either.
Barndog, relieved |
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12.27.08 - 10:37 am | #
Headline over at CNN just now:
More Trouble For Bristol Palin's Soon-to-Be Mother-in-Law!
I love late Christmas gifts....
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 10:37 am | #
And isn't that town pronounced Trawna?
David Derbes
Trana.
With the Canadian Raise you don't need the "w".
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:37 am | #
GWPDA-- sorry, not in the phone book I have here, which only covers Etobicoke. I'll be downtown in a bit, and I'll look for a book down there.
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:37 am | #
"The guilt may be good for me, tho."
If you need things to feel guilty about I'm sure between us all we can help...
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 10:37 am | #
Ms Fahrenheit, if it makes you feel better, I'm running a half-marathon on the 18th. I've run exactly once in the last month, and I don't plan to do any running today, either.
Jubilation T. Cornpone |
12.27.08 - 10:38 am | #
don't see that headline Simels.
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
What in the world is the derivation of "Etobicoke"?
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
Ms. F-- you'll be glad to hear I tweaked my back shovelling snow, and my inlaws are all laughing at me about it. No running for a few days.
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
This story is wrong in so many, many ways
She's mostly deaf, and mostly blind. She only moves from the bed to go bathroom or eat.
That's about the extent of it.
Barndog, relieved |
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12.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
Harold Pinter: The Death of A Great Artist Who Hated Us.
The jokes just write themselves, sometime.
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 10:40 am | #
Jubilaton
How does that work?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:40 am | #
My damned dog can eat an entire bowl of beef stew (home made), and leave every fucking pea.
BFD.
Even I can do that.
Sufferin' Succotash |
12.27.08 - 10:40 am | #
{{{Uncle B!}}}
{{{Jeffraham!}}}
I'm well, thank you, and yourselves?
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
12.27.08 - 10:40 am | #
She only moves from the bed to go bathroom or eat.
That's about the extent of it.
Barndog, relieved
Oh hell, mine are 5 years old and that's all they do as well.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:41 am | #
don't see that headline Simels.
trifecta | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
Wasn't actually a headline.
Just uttered by news dominatrix Alex Witt.
I have a weirdly inappropriate thing for her.
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 10:41 am | #
What in the world is the derivation of "Etobicoke"?
Adam Hominem
native.
and to really fuck you up, the "k" is silent.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:41 am | #
So I see Sallyh has survived Christmas in Connecticut.
Sufferin' Succotash |
12.27.08 - 10:41 am | #
I'm no economist, at least beyond teaching at the 100 college level, but the demand side has to have an impact on rates since mortgage apps are at a 5 year high.
Troutski HFM |
12.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
Etobicoke is Latvian for "Small Village About to be Eated."
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
MOE!
I am not happy to hear that you hurt yourself, you goofball!
I am more than happy to remind you that you are getting up in years and must be careful about the shoveling duties.
hee hee
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
What in the world is the derivation of "Etobicoke"?
It's Injun for "place on the way to the airport."
Moe Szyslak |
12.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 27, 2008; Page A05
Chip Saltsman, a candidate for chairman of the Republican National Committee, sent committee members this month a holiday music CD that included "Barack the Magic Negro," a parody song first aired in 2007 by talk show host Rush Limbaugh.
Created by conservative satirist Paul Shanklin, the song puts new lyrics to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon," and it is performed as if black activist Al Sharpton were singing it. Limbaugh played it after the Los Angeles Times ran an opinion piece with the same title.
"A guy from the LA paper said it made guilty whites feel good, they'll vote for him and not for me cuz he's not from the hood," the song goes. "Oh, Barack the magic negro lives in DC, the LA Times they called him that because he's black but not authentically."
The CD accompanied holiday greetings from Saltsman, a Tennessee resident who managed former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee's campaign for president. Saltsman announced his bid to lead the Republican Party this month.
He did not return a call seeking comment last night. Saltsman had earlier told the Hill newspaper, which first reported the incident, that the song is meant as a joke.
only a joke, isn't that sweet?
so i can go ahead and get my:
"cracka-man" played on the air for millions like rush did for that dude? incidentally, "cracka-man" is sung to the campy 60's batman teevee show.
mogwai |
12.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
and to really fuck you up, the "k" is silent.
JR, kerosene and a match
I had a good birthday
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 10:42 am | #
Head of Penn's trauma center killed in Chimpy's vanity war - P O'Neill
Hell is too good a place for Bush. Despicible asshole.
bo |
12.27.08 - 10:43 am | #
What libruls need is a sense of humor.
Sufferin' Succotash |
12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
The mother of Bristol Palin's boyfriend sent text messages to two police informants discussing drug transactions before her arrest on felony drug charges, Alaska authorities said.
An affidavit said Sherry Johnston sent text messages referring to "coffee" as a code for the drug OxyContin.
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
Hell is too good a place for Bush. Despicible asshole.
bo
Huh. To hear the MSM tell it, that war is over.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
Uncle Blodge, happy birthday!
Carrot cake?
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
"Chimpy's vanity war."
I am so stealing that....
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
I personally do not believe that Mother Levi will ever be Bristol's mother-in-law.
But busting her for dealing seems like a pretty far way to go to break off a no-longer-convenient engagement.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
Headline over at Roger L. Simon's place:
"Harold Pinter: The Death of A Great Artist Who Hated Moronic Brownshirt Fucks Like ME."
(((AndyMN!!!)))
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:45 am | #
So how did that recent movie based on conservative humor do at the box office? I already forgot the name of it, like most people did.
Troutski HFM |
12.27.08 - 10:45 am | #
Jubilaton
How does that work?
Laziness.
Actually, my last day of work is the 31st; I'll be doing regular workouts for the rest of the time before the big day, since I'll actually be home during daylight hours. (We have no sidewalks here, have to run in the road.)
The War of Chimpy's Face.
Sufferin' Succotash |
12.27.08 - 10:45 am | #
what is perverted about this society is that fucking retard will probably get teh RNC head nomination PRECISELY cause he's a fucking asshole ratwanger with balls to write that tune.
if it were on the dem side, the circular firing squad would be out, or the long knives will get sharpened.
mogwai |
12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
So how did that recent movie based on conservative humor do at the box office? I already forgot the name of it, like most people did.
Troutski HFM
Expelled?
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
(((Molly)))!! How's the big city?
AndyMN |
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12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
But busting her for dealing seems like a pretty far way to go to break off a no-longer-convenient engagement.
Molly Ivors, in NYC | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 10:44 am | #
So now the Republicans have mainstreamed teen pregnancy AND drug abuse.
Who knew they were so hip?
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
Sufferin, doesn't Not Grading feel great?
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
Jubilation
Keep us posted. Good luck.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
Troutski,
An American Carol. Just *this side* of straight-to-DVD.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:46 am | #
...busting her for dealing seems like a pretty far way to go to break off a no-longer-convenient engagement.
Pew asked people what they thought determined whether a person would achieve eternal life. Nearly as many Christians said you could achieve eternal life by just being a good person as said that you had to believe in Jesus.
Also, many Christians apparently view their didactic text as flexible. According to Pew’s August survey, only 39 percent of Christians believe that the Bible is the literal word of God, and 18 percent think that it’s just a book written by men and not the word of God at all. In fact, on the question in the Pew survey about what it would take to achieve eternal life, only 1 percent of Christians said living life in accordance with the Bible
1Watt, Hermit |
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12.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
Sallyh -- All's well, here. I finally caught up on my sleep. The kittehs are super happy, 'cause the balcony door is open.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
wasn't there another relation-by-marriage Gov. Idjit and her hubby also went after tooth and nail? So hard to remember so long ago...
The Borgias of Alaska.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:49 am | #
Mrs. Trifecta is at the beach with a girlfriend of hers until Monday. I was given a list of rules not to violate with the boys while she is gone. It seems so constraining.
I did feed one vegetable soup and the other chicken pot pie for lunch. That is healthy.
It's time for pizza and beer for dinner tonight.
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
Soon after to be seen in Dollar Stores everywhere!
And in that bin in the local supermarket where you can also find such hits as Dune and Heaven's Gate.
Sufferin' Succotash |
12.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
Pew asked people what they thought
did they ask about the 90% of this krazy-kracka-kountry who believe in heaven or some sky doggie?
and we wonder why we don't make, do or innovate in this country as much as we used to - jeebus rots your brainZ
mogwai |
12.27.08 - 10:52 am | #
I think much of it had to do with the fact, unfounded, that's I'm a redneck, although I'm from the South, that I'm gay and don't go along with groupthink and dare to say whatever I think needs to be saying.
2OżO9 |
12.27.08 - 10:54 am | #
...in that bin in the local supermarket where you can also find such hits as Dune and Heaven's Gate.
I think much of it had to do with the fact, unfounded, that's I'm a redneck, although I'm from the South, that I'm gay and don't go along with groupthink and dare to say whatever I think needs to be saying.
2OżO9
I'm pretty sure it's the whining.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
I watched Brokeback Mountain the other day. The quintessential American tragedy.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
Brokeback Mountain is on!
My comments may be a little .......distracted.
Filmed in Alberta!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
We didn't plan anything, and it's probably too late now. We're here until Monday.
Anybody just now viewing Brokeback is a bigot. Especially since Traffic won the Oscar.
2OżO9
Whew, I'm not a bigot, I stil haven't seen it.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 10:58 am | #
OMG... haven't thought of her in YEARS!
Morning Stretch! I can't believe I even remember that.
AndyMN |
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12.27.08 - 10:58 am | #
Oops, sorry GWDPA. I didn't realize it was you comment and was trying to be funny.
2OżO9 |
12.27.08 - 10:58 am | #
It isn't the first time I've seen it, you douchebag!
Now, back to the scenery.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 10:59 am | #
(considers installing killfile on Mother Thers's machine)
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 10:59 am | #
Joanie Greggins was on "Evening Magazine" and various other low-rent Bay Area shows for eons!
Shades of Wendy Tokuda!
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12.27.08 - 10:59 am | #
And I say that as somebody who believes "Heaven's Gate" is a misunderstood masterpiece.
They showed the "long" version at Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley a year or so ago. I was hoping it was because they were about to put out a new DVD, but apparently not.
But somehow you're not curious what decided much of American culture and the last 5 presidential elections and how that's afffected your life, wherever you are but you're not bigoted? So you already know all about it and it leading meaning?
Jr,
The acting is worth the time, and the scenery is spectacular. And it's a genuinely genius skewering of the American cowboy myth (dunno if you folks north of the border make such a big deal about it as they do down here). Very few films are really transgressive in a meaningful way--usually, it's just pushing random boundaries.
But this is an utterly believable love story in which the main character suffers endlessly for the crime of being (a) who he is, and (b) knowing the cost of that within his society.
And Ledger will win the Oscar posthumously for The Joker, but he should have won it for this, and the Academy knows it.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
I need to go to this place in Alberta.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 11:03 am | #
Molly, ditch the husband and run off with me to a movie tonight.
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12.27.08 - 11:03 am | #
That's certainly interesting.
2OżO9
Someone who comes here and immediately starts a fight. Fits the very definition of "troll".
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
The snow is melting -- I swear it is!
plantsman |
12.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
And Ledger will win the Oscar posthumously for The Joker, but he should have won it for this, and the Academy knows it.
Molly Ivors, in NYC | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
God knows he deserves it, but I'll still be surprised if he does.
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
TKK,
Hmmmm.... what shall we see?
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
But somehow you're not curious what decided much of American culture and the last 5 presidential elections and how that's afffected your life, wherever you are but you're not bigoted? So you already know all about it and it leading meaning?
That's certainly interesting.
2OżO9
No.
it means I'm:
1) not Usian.
2) I fucking hate sappy dramas, any orientation.
3) Sheep are smelly and stupid
I held out for three fucking years on Titanic until my friends ambushed me with the fucking thing on movie night.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
Milk? Doubt? Wrestler?
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12.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
God knows he deserves it, but I'll still be surprised if he does.
steve simels
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the Academy.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
Errands beckon.
Back shortly....
steve simels |
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12.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
simels?
No? Jeebus, the role killed him; it's the least they could do.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
"Elf" is on continuous loop on USA on New Year's Eve -- though I can't imagine why.
plantsman |
12.27.08 - 11:06 am | #
I didn't think there was any doubt.
Adam Hominem
In science there is always doubt... at least until the results are replicated.
They've been replicated.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:06 am | #
They've been replicated.
JR, kerosene and a match
But the willingness of "good people" to do evil...the evidence is everywhere.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 11:07 am | #
Molly
I thought the scenery was beautiful.
The love story was sappy, if not in the mood for a love story.
and, of course,
it was necessary to tell and see.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 11:07 am | #
Someone who comes here and immediately starts a fight. Fits the very definition of "troll".
Adam Hominem
he's been here for hours without fighting, give it a rest.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
n 850-pound emerald said to be worth as much as $370 million is in the hands of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department while a court decides who really owns it, a spokesman for the sheriff said.
The "Bahia Emerald" -- one of the largest ever found -- was reported stolen in September from a secured vault in South El Monte in Los Angeles County. The report was made by someone who claimed to own the giant gemstone, Los Angeles Sheriff's Lt. Thomas Grubb said.
Federal court papers showed the emerald has been at the center of a dispute between a California man who claimed ownership, a company he contracted with to sell it, and a potential buyer.
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12.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
And Ledger will win the Oscar posthumously for The Joker, but he should have won it for this, and the Academy knows it.
Molly Ivors, in NYC | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 11:02 am | #
God knows he deserves it, but I'll still be surprised if he does.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 11:04 am | #
Finally saw Dark Knight yesterday.
Buckeye ... |
12.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
JR,
Avoiding Incog's needy emotional crap:
I think you'd find it surprisingly not sappy--there are very few easy answers in the film, and some real betrayals, sometimes surprising ones. The focus of the film is on the emotional paucity of the rural west. But as I said, I winder if, as a Canuckistani, you might have a different perspective on all this.
Also, the sheep are only in part of the movie.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
But the willingness of "good people" to do evil...the evidence is everywhere.
Adam Hominem
Well, there's always the "controlled conditions" thing.
People in the wild are subject to a great deal of uncontrolled factors.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:08 am | #
I held out for three fucking years on Titanic until my friends ambushed me with the fucking thing on movie night.
JR, kerosene and a match | 12.27.08 - 11:05 am | #
As just the energy to respond to one, they still have smell-o-vision where you live?
2OżO9 |
12.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
IDF is pounding the shit out of Gaza once again, supplemented with your tax dollars. So needless. So evil.
Troutski HFM |
12.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
But as I said, I winder if, as a Canuckistani, you might have a different perspective on all this.
Also, the sheep are only in part of the movie.
Molly Ivors
Possibley a factor.. the "Cowboy myth" isn't really that big here, in Eastern Canada at least. Ours is more the courier de boise and such.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:10 am | #
Molly
Everyone knows I thinking sappy love stories are silly.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 11:10 am | #
simels?
No? Jeebus, the role killed him; it's the least they could do.
Molly Ivors, in NYC | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 11:05 am
I got the impression that there were other 'issues' even before The Joker, though it certainly didn't help.
Buckeye ... |
12.27.08 - 11:10 am | #
And I say that as somebody who believes "Heaven's Gate" is a misunderstood masterpiece.
The film is really good. The production was, however, an exercise in directoral self-indulgence and a financial disaster. I don't know how much of the directoral self-indulgence contributed to making the film a masterpiece, but when you have over 80 takes of someone cracking a bullwhip, I think you're over-doing it a bit. Not to mention transporting a tree half-way across the continent and installing irrigation systems because the locations you chose weren't green enough for you.
Toonscribe |
12.27.08 - 11:10 am | #
But I'm viewing as a literary scholar with rural and populist roots. I see it as a really brilliant refiguring of the tragic genre, for a lot of reasons.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:11 am | #
As just the energy to respond to one, they still have smell-o-vision where you live?
2OżO9
only near the rendering plant.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:11 am | #
Dr. Muawiya Hassanein, the head of emergency services at the Gaza Ministry of Health, said that at least 195 Palestinians were killed in the Israeli air strikes.
The air attack came after days of warnings by Israeli officials that Israel would retaliate for intense rocket and mortar fire against Israeli towns and villages by Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza.
On Wednesday alone, more than 60 rockets and mortars were fired, some reaching further than previously. While the rockets are meant to be deadly, and several houses and a factory were hit, sowing widespread panic, no Israelis were killed or seriously injured in the recent attacks
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 11:11 am | #
It's time for pizza and beer for dinner tonight.
trifecta
Try to keep the little one's beer consumption down to a minimum, or mom could get pissed.
Virginia, no, I'm working! |
12.27.08 - 11:12 am | #
Annie Proulx - Brokeback's author - became a famous novelist rather late in life, and moved to Wyoming when rural Vermont no longer provided enough privacy. Back when I knew her, she worked at the Post Office part-time, and was trying to get some short fiction published in The New Yorker.
bill buckner |
12.27.08 - 11:12 am | #
Ours is more the courier de boise and such.
Heh. I like the Kids in the Hall sketch where they go hunting fine men's suits. "And of course, many, many Armani!"
Ms. f, word on the nets is that you're utterly unromantic.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:13 am | #
You know, I never saw "Brokeback Mountain". But I don't really watch movies unless Alan Steele starring in them or it's directed by Sandy Frank.
AndyMN |
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12.27.08 - 11:13 am | #
But I'm viewing as a literary scholar with rural and populist roots. I see it as a really brilliant refiguring of the tragic genre, for a lot of reasons.
Molly Ivors
I may, at some point, give it a shot.
Like I said, it's really not a genre that appeals to me.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:13 am | #
Someone who comes here and immediately starts a fight. Fits the very definition of "troll".
It's been a fucking troll here for years.
It's tried the same schtick at Digby's and Americablog and they kicked its sorry fucking ass out, too.
But I don't really watch movies unless Alan Steele starring in them or it's directed by Sandy Frank.
Yeah, these guys are really not that oily at all.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:14 am | #
My favorite part of Brokeback Mountain was when Heath Ledger and the sheep had that fight scene where they were leaping off the tops of pagodas, seemingly suspended in air.
That had pathos.
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 11:14 am | #
Morning, peeps. Feels like a spring thaw here so we rushed around de-decking the few outside decorations.
Otherwise they'd be up until March, frozen in place.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:14 am | #
I jsut discovered that I have been contributing 20 dollars a month to digby, via Paypal, for years. I must have started that up and then forgotten about it.
Not complaining, but still....it was a surprise.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 11:15 am | #
You know, I never saw "Brokeback Mountain".
Neither have I.
Both my mother and a gay friend said it's simply awful.
noblejoanie,
Go climate change!
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:15 am | #
"Let him go...he has spirit!"
AndyMN
heh.
But I mean.. all that time alone on the range. Did people seriously think there was no cowboy on cowboy lovin' going on?
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:15 am | #
bill buckner
Cool! Rural Vermont not private enough? [shudders]
Molly
Word on the nets? Jeebus.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 11:16 am | #
"That had pathos."
sheep leaping from pagodas usually does...
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12.27.08 - 11:16 am | #
Feels like a spring thaw here so we rushed around de-decking the few outside decorations.
It got up to 35 here yesterday. The sidewalks are dry!
Then, it iced up overnight...fun walking and driving out there.
AndyMN |
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12.27.08 - 11:16 am | #
evil because no Israelis were killed or seriously injured in the recent Hamas attacks. Israel killed at least 195, including civilians and children. Israel says the strikes would not only continue, but that they would be intensified.
Troutski HFM |
12.27.08 - 11:16 am | #
Did people seriously think there was no cowboy on cowboy lovin' going on?
Apparently it was a shock to all involved.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:17 am | #
Try to keep the little one's beer consumption down to a minimum, or mom could get pissed.
Virginia, no, I'm working!
not mention the bed.
1Watt, Hermit |
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12.27.08 - 11:17 am | #
Word on the nets? Jeebus.
I keed! I keed!
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:17 am | #
Apparently it was a shock to all involved.
Molly Ivors
especially the sheep, that's why they lept off the pagoda.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:18 am | #
I didn't see Dark Knight in the theater, but I got it for Christmas on DVD. Perhaps I shall watch it later today.
Toonscribe |
12.27.08 - 11:18 am | #
Did people seriously think there was no cowboy on cowboy lovin' going on?
If it didn't happen to John Wayne, it didn't happen.
AndyMN |
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12.27.08 - 11:18 am | #
Both my mother and a gay friend said it's simply awful.
That is going a bit far.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.27.08 - 11:18 am | #
The weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas were appalling weather-wise, on Liberal Mountain. I canceled a bunch of classes.
But it's apparently 50 there today.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:19 am | #
I don't understand why Israel was targeting the Gaza police.
Don't they think that if things get totally out of control that they'll be needed?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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12.27.08 - 11:19 am | #
Molly - wondering on the price of 2 medium DFH shirts
my kids want them to annoy their mom
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 11:19 am | #
Don't they think that if things get totally out of control that they'll be needed?
HoneyBearKelly
I think that's the point.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:19 am | #
Well, as an assertion of gay identity, it probably is awful.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:20 am | #
Big Jake was a Western gay porn movie starring John Wayne. Jake was indeed really huge.
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 11:20 am | #
Floors are sparkly clean. Anyone wanna stop by and eat lunch offa them? Offer expires next time the dog has to go out/
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12.27.08 - 11:20 am | #
Blodge,
Will email you back. I don't have them here, and I want to make sure I have sizes. But probably $10 each.
Molly Ivors, in NYC |
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12.27.08 - 11:20 am | #
This is the weirdest weather I can remember for this time of year. Heading to CHI today where it's going to be 64, heavy thunderstorms, strong wind followed by rapidly falling temps (31) and snow.
You're most right, Molly--the climates they are a changin'.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:21 am | #
Did people seriously think there was no cowboy on cowboy lovin' going on?
Well, with all the available sheep....
Toonscribe |
12.27.08 - 11:21 am | #
I'm probably starting some trouble with them but if you can't encourage your kids to annoy your ex, what the hell are they good for?
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 11:22 am | #
Just recently viewed The Dark Knight. It truly did cost Ledger his life--he went deep into madness. No wonder he needed meds to sleep.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:22 am | #
Beset by economic worries and loneliness, elderly Japanese are turning to petty crime in increasing numbers, the nation's Justice Ministry reports.
In 2007, 48,605 persons age 65 and older were arrested in crimes other than traffic violations, more than double the number five years earlier, according to a ministry report.
Thefts such as shoplifting and pick-pocketing were the main offenses, the ministry report said.
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12.27.08 - 11:22 am | #
Milk
The Wrestler
Cadillac Records
Benjamin Button
Revolutionary Road
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.27.08 - 11:22 am | #
Apparently it was a shock to all involved.
Molly Ivors, in NYC
Imagine my surprise!
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 11:23 am | #
My friend who's out here from Jersey City had to drive the side streets from Chicago to southern Wisconsin on the way here. They closed the Ryan last week because of the ice.
AndyMN |
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12.27.08 - 11:23 am | #
I have always liked Mickey Rourke. Want to see The Wrestler when it heads this way.
trifecta |
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12.27.08 - 11:24 am | #
Annie Proulx - Brokeback's author - became a famous novelist rather late in life, and moved to Wyoming when rural Vermont no longer provided enough privacy.
Read a while back somewhere that she was spending the Winter in Albuquerque, rented a house and had settled in to do some writing.
Kareem Cheese |
12.27.08 - 11:24 am | #
In 2007, 48,605 persons age 65 and older were arrested in crimes other than traffic violations
Those wily Japanese oldsters have anticipated my retirement plan.
Toonscribe |
12.27.08 - 11:24 am | #
My friend who's out here from Jersey City had to drive the side streets from Chicago to southern Wisconsin on the way here. They closed the Ryan last week because of the ice.
AndyMN
/frantically pulls up IL road report site.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:24 am | #
Sheets, btw.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:25 am | #
It's tried the same schtick at Digby's and Americablog and they kicked its sorry fucking ass out, too.
When Digby banned me, it was quite dignified and uneventful. Just as simple banning: No longer accepting your comments.
Aravosis was quite another matter. It must be the Greek hot but it was startling. He yell, all caps mind you, that I was "the sorriest excuse for a gay activist he had ever seen and he had been all over the world talking to other gay activists and knows. Said I had set the movement back to the beginning. No, before the beginning, since even Stonewall."
He told me to go away and never come back there again. I was no longer welcome, even though I'm also gay.
Well, it hurt, of course, for some time, really, but I get by. I get through and I believe in what I have to say.
2OżO9 |
12.27.08 - 11:25 am | #
TKK you're going to see all of those today?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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12.27.08 - 11:25 am | #
"It truly did cost Ledger his life--he went deep into madness. No wonder he needed meds to sleep."
Jack Nicholson was told about ledger by a reporter. His response - "I warned him"
There's a lot in that comment
Uncle Blodge, MTC |
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12.27.08 - 11:25 am | #
Those wily Japanese oldsters have anticipated my retirement plan.
Toonscribe
You're not alone, my friend.
Adam Hominem |
12.27.08 - 11:25 am | #
TKK you're going to see all of those today?
These are suggestions for Molly
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.27.08 - 11:26 am | #
1Watt, Hermit
Interesting column by Blow.
Yesterday, I watched a movie on Sundance named "Jesus in India". Premise was that he spent many of the lost years (12-30) in India.
In addition to driving all the fundemented crazy, all of the Vatican reps that commented in the film were pretty much foaming at the mouth, also.
Interesting movie.
billy b |
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12.27.08 - 11:27 am | #
Kids saw Milk and Benjamin Buttons. Two enthusiastic thumbs up for Milk and the review of Buttons from my daughter was: Brad Pitt is beautiful at any age.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:27 am | #
I dunno about Ledger's playing the Joker being the death of him, as it were... I can see him taking the role as a way of expressing something sort of rotten within him...
... but I didn't much care for the movie. The guy who did the most with the least was Aaron Eckhart.
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12.27.08 - 11:27 am | #
In addition to driving all the fundemented crazy, all of the Vatican reps that commented in the film were pretty much foaming at the mouth, also.
Awesome.
JR, kerosene and a match |
12.27.08 - 11:28 am | #
Ahem - Cowboys. Ranches. Cows. Alberta. Stampede.
Pretty big deal in Alberta.
Calgary has had light rail for decades!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
12.27.08 - 11:30 am | #
/come on upstairs, friends.
noblejoanie |
12.27.08 - 11:30 am | #
Disturbing news!
Wait, you mean that that little dancing lady appears on EVERYONE's webmail page?! I thought she did her little dance just for ME!
Damn. There goes Christmas.
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