I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hey, I checked before I split!
And GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!
One more and I'll share the wealth . . .
And it's al MEMEMEMEMEMEME!
whoa nellie!
Damn, this is addictive.
I probably should read the link.
no more
playing the ponies, V.?
into the crypts of rays...
Got tired of Solitaire?
let's just hope that "hearting" huckabee doesn't grow legs...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
Got tired of Solitaire?
JR, not currently banned
Just happened to hit the ol' refresher on my way out the door.
There seems to be some kind of sticky substance on the stem of my crack pipe.
And V for Virginia said she wasn't good at shooters. Picked this one off pretty fucking well.
Some morning singing for anyone who wants to hear it.
I recorded this from my front window, a couple of minutes ago.
ha ha
Made Tiger look
The Fog is boring btw
no eatage
From below...
Some morning singing for anyone who wants to hear it.
I recorded this from my front window, a couple of minutes ago.
http://www5.upload2.net/download...Hu2/
vorc001.mp3
Virginia has outscored the Rockies already.
any betting tips on the next race at Monmouth?
uh...and how many times have I told you all that the correct response to any utterance by Mike Huckabee is "Wayne DuMond"?
uh...and how many times have I told you all that the correct response to any utterance by Mike Huckabee is "Wayne DuMond"?
But...but...HE LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT!
A visit from a new york city classical music group is all the validation the regime needs to take over the world
VRWC
That was something dreamed up by Hitlery and her lesbian cohorts.
Wow. I mean WOW! I never heard this story before. How in G-d's name can we get this story heard by the rest of the nation. It is sickening. The whole anti-Clinton rage thing is one of the biggest manifestations of the Rightwing insanity that has gripped our country over the past two decades. It is not just past history because it is going to be used at full power in the upcoming election cycle. It is clearly a dangerous form of mental illness because it paints any legitimate opposition to Hillary with its stink..
A visit from a new york city classical music group is all the validation the regime needs to take over the world
Culture of TrÜth
When did they visit the White House?
Is it a bit decadent or sick that I can, in my pajamas in bed, wager my money on a horse race? Legally?
I have $50 in my youbet.com account...I had $100 six months ago. I'm going down fast!
Bad Art - You haven't been listening to me, have you? I have been bringing up Huckabee's release of DuMond, and the reason for it, on something like a daily basis around here for months now.
Doug: Is that a Bobwhite??
Doug: My mistake. It was a Kurt Vonnegut bird. Poo-tweet?
Doug: Is that a Bobwhite??
Bad Art
No. I don't know what it is, but a Bobwhite it ain't.
/ducks in case he's wrong...
A visit from a new york city classical music group is all the validation the regime needs to take over the world
Culture of TrÜth
When did they visit the White House?
Sorry I meant a regime that cares what other people think - like north korea
Bad Art,
I hadn't heard this story, either.
I figure all the GOP candidates have some serious skeletons in their closets, so it seems par for the course.
That's, um, gross, for one thing, and GODDAMIIT HOW MUCH DAMAGE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO DO HATING BILL CLINTON????????
Oh, sorry.
whatever takes the Hucksterbee out of the race is fine with me.
Where is he hiding his fat sons and wife.
Here's another Huckabee story you won't read about in the Republican press:
When the Jonesboro Middle School shooting occured, Huckabee was governor. Soon after the shooting, he published a book called When Kids Kill, capitalizing not only on the deaths of young kids but also on his then-current status as governor of the state in which the shooting occured. When asked if he was going to donate profits to the victims' fund, he grew petulant and asserted his "right" to keep the money because, after all, he had kids that would soon be in college and capitalizing on the deaths of other people's children would help finance their tuitiion.
And no, I'm not making any of this up.
Sorry I meant a regime that cares what other people think - like north korea
Culture of TrÜth
That clears it up nicely.
Huckabee's wife is known in Arkansas as "Jethrene".
Where is he hiding his fat sons and wife.
Well, one's in the custody of the TSA...
This is a good counterpoint to the knuckleheads who keep saying that Hucksterbee is such a nice, likable guy, totally without the hate and animosity the infects all the other repuke candidates.
Actually Jen, no, sorry, I don't read all the threads here unless I'm not working and it's raining and miserable outside. Besides, the Hucklebee tie-in isn't too important, he doesn't have a chance against Julie Annie. But the greater issue of the anti-Clintonism is a serious problem going forward, IMHO. She can use it as a shield against liberal criticism.
Huckabee's wife is known in Arkansas as "Jethrene".
Jennifer
All right. I need to go, you know, do stuff.
Later, kids!
Huckabee's son who tried to carry a loaded Glock onto an airplane is the same son who at age 18 was fired as a camp counselor at boy scout camp for shooting and hanging a stray dog. Also while Huckabee was governor.
Many of us at the time suggested that Huckabee should write another book, called When Kids Kill Dogs.
Had Huckabee examined in detail the parole board’s files regarding Dumond, he would have known Dumond had compiled a lengthy criminal resume.
Even Dumbya reviewed a case for ten minutes before he signed a death warrant.
I've been listening to a rerun of a Wha'd'ya Know from 2005 - Michael interviewed Connie Schultz of the Plains-Dealer, who had just won the Pulitzer for commentary (and is married to OH Sen Sherrod Brown). The thing that kept making me mad was that she was going on and on about how after the swiftboaters in 2004 and Katrina, journalists were *finally* starting to act like journalists and she had no doubt they would continue to start to think about asking the hard questions of Bush and his cronies.
Every time she would talk about the war, all I could think was "And two years later you're all doing the same goddam thing all over again with Iran." 
Huckabee's son who tried to carry a loaded Glock onto an airplane is the same son who at age 18 was fired as a camp counselor at boy scout camp for shooting and hanging a stray dog.
Sounds like pretzeldential material.
lipreader: Brilliant play on words. Two birds with one shot!
Oh, I thought yu said Petzoldential.
Oh, I thought yu said Petzoldential.
Bad Art
I considered it, I really did.
The Glock-wielding dog-hanging Huckabee son is the same one who, while a member of student government at ASU, set up businesses to siphon money out of the SGA without competitive bidding and who, when caught by the city operating a business without a privilege license, displayed his pettiness by first arguing that it wasn't a "real" business (of course it wasn't; it was only set up to graft the student government funds) and then by paying for the required privilege license with pennies...thousands of pennies.
Of course, one can't blame the kid...his dad had been teaching him through example for years that it was A-OK to just help yourself to other people's money and then whine about how "unfair" it is when it's pointed out that this is what's known as, you know, stealing.
Oh, please, GOP fuckwads, defy the numbers and nominate the shitstain Huckabee for President.
Please, please, puh-leaze!
Huckabee wants to visit Brownback Mountain.
I bet they both go to Bohemian Grove every year.
Oh, please, GOP fuckwads, defy the numbers and nominate the shitstain Huckabee for President.
Please, please, puh-leaze!
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 10.27.07 - 1:54 pm | #
Yeah, and I can't wait to see the gushing katiecolon 60 minutes fluff piece.
When Huckabee protests that he's tired of being confronted with the story of Wayne DuMond, he should be told he should stop running for office and crawl under the rock where he fucking belongs.
Doug: Is that a Bobwhite??
Bad Art
No. I don't know what it is, but a Bobwhite it ain't.
/ducks in case he's wrong...
I think it's a rock wren.
Nope that's not what it is.
I'm looking at pictures of AZ birds to try to figure out what it is.
This bird when I first moved in was very shy, and though I heard it singing in the mornings I could never get a look at it. Lately it's been perching on my porch, and seems to be less scared of me, my family and the dogs. (they like birds but learned long ago they were a waste of time to chases, after a killdeer in Montana gave them some exercise.)
I'll see if I can find out what that critter is.
OK, I'm going to make cookies.
Later (maybe), flittermice.
I was saying in here the other day how I was looking forward to a Huckabee nomination, because I would print up and sell thousands of T-shirts that say "Wayne DuMond" on them for people to wear to Huckabee rallies and events all over the country.
Expect interest in Huckabee to sharply Wayne.
Jennifer | 10.27.07 - 1:47 pm
I too was shocked reading that case.
Maybe what we need IS something like a "Willie Horton" commercial focusing on the wingnuttyness leading to the release of the prisioner.
"But WHY did the Gov. release the prisioner? Because John Cole and the Clinton haters told him to."
when hycksterbee complains
peole should just say Willie Horton
Prince Phillip, Royal Ranger!
Re-HICA!
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I should think you people all would know by now that letting criminals out of jail for political reasons and getting people killed is only bad when Democrats do it.
be told he should stop running for office and crawl under the rock where he fucking belongs.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
AtDH: Is that something that people told another canididate?
To be fair parole situations are complex.
If we sully ourselves with this case, we lower ourselves to their level and lose the civility that is our claim to the moral high ground. After all, there are humanitarian grounds for letting a serial rapist go free if you honestly, and within the framework of your faith, which we have to respect, believe Bill Clinton to be responsible.
/NotMuchofAParody
What this thread needs is two good kittehs.
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DuMond was a white guy, too.
So there's no racist overtones ala Willie Horton.
In fact, you could spin it the other way and claim that part of the reason Huckabee let the guy out is because he was white.
Huckabee Santorum
I don't think they would get a single vote in Nothern California. Not one.
I should think you people all would know by now that letting criminals out of jail for political reasons and getting people killed is only bad when Democrats do it.
JeffCO | 10.27.07 - 2:02 pm
But of course! You see when Republican's show compassion it's a BIG DEAL. They are expected to get credit for it, because it's the opposite. The message that this kind of story sends is. "SEE? NEVER show compassion, it will come back to bite you in the ass."
Ahh, the good old GOP double standard.
IOKIYAR.
"SEE? NEVER show compassion, it will come back to bite you in the ass."
I don't think there are any Republicans left who are willing to refer to ass-biting.
Fuck their compassion fantasy. I was here when Huckster let that rapist out of jail, and his stated reason at the time was his belief that the only reason DuMond was convicted and in jail was the victim's distant relation to Bill Clinton.
Fuck him. He bought a load of wingnut bullshit hook line and sinker, he admitted to buying it and a woman in Missouri died because of it.
I don't think there are any Republicans left who are willing to refer to ass-biting.
JeffCO | 10.27.07 - 2:07 pm
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Have you been watching The Amazing Mrs. Pritchard? It is really good.
Doug, my son and I went on a night walk in the Grasslands NP in S Dakota and had a G-damn killdeer do its wounded bird act in the dark in front of us for about a quarter mile or so. So much for being quiet like an Indian. them birds are a PITA.
Jennifer | 10.27.07 - 2:07 pm |
What's the story about DuMond and the testicals in the jar? Did that really happen? Did the people who did THAT get caught? Are the in prision?
Have you been watching The Amazing Mrs. Pritchard? It is really good.
Hadn't heard of it - thanks for the tip! I see it will be out on DVD here next week.
Compassion is something that the wingers know as intimately as they know quantum mechanics, molecular biology, or honesty.
"I don't think there are any Republicans left who are willing to refer to ass-biting."
Only in the men's room.
I know it's NOT new, but it's still funny.....
Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow discuss Bill O'Reilly's flip-out over Dumbledore being gay at Crooks and Liars,
spocko | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 2:09 pm | #
The state police believe he did it to himself.
Many of us at the time suggested that Huckabee should write another book, called When Kids Kill Dogs.
I think we know who the Dogburner is supporting in '08...
What's the story about DuMond and the testicals in the jar? Did that really happen? Did the people who did THAT get caught? Are the in prision?
spocko
Yes, it really happened. The county sherriff at the time was famously corrupt. It was never determined how he came to be in possession of DuMond's testicles, nor who the persons who performed the castration were. The sheriff died a few years after the incident, and to this day, all that is known is that a) somehow, DuMond's testicles were parted from his body and b) said testicles wound up in a jar on the sherriff's desk.
But you know, vigilantes cutting his nuts off does nothing to prove his innocence in committing the rape.
Go Ducks!
JeffCO I'm watching it on PBS here in SF. First part on last Sunday, next is tomorrow. I didn't know it was on DVD.
It can be very funny too, and I know that you will appreciate that.
There are few scenes about what she wants to say to President Bush that are a hoot.
spocko | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 2:09 pm | #
The state police believe he did it to himself.
rootless-e | 10.27.07 - 2:10 pm | #
YOU ARE FRAKING KIDDING ME!
The state police believe he did it to himself.
Just googling I couldn't find any info on the guys who are supposed to have done it except something about Dumond claiming they did it for the Clenis.
Doug, haven't been able to access your link yet. Maybe this would help:
http://www.whatbird.com/
But you know, vigilantes cutting his nuts off does nothing to prove his innocence in committing the rape.
Jennifer | 10.27.07 - 2:13 pm
Oh, I know. I'm anti-vigilante violence.
I was here when Huckster let that rapist out of jail, and his stated reason at the time was his belief that the only reason DuMond was convicted and in jail was the victim's distant relation to Bill Clinton.
Jennifer | 10.27.07 - 2:07 pm
There's got to be records of those statements, right?
And, Gene Lyons wrote briefly about the testicles--seems there's lots of thought Dumond cut off his own balls, which is apparently not unknown among criminals of his sort. There was no evidence of anyone else in the house or of forced entry.
The sheriff's actions are--uh--interesting, to put it mildly. Baroque and grisly, the whole ball thing is.
YOU ARE FRAKING KIDDING ME!
spocko | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 2:14 pm | #
See the comment by Lyons on Digby's blog. But self mutilation is not unusual in serial rapists either. The guy was unbalanced enough to be a republican congressman, at least.
Dumond claiming they did it for the Clenis.
JeffCO
Ah, of course -- on Hitlery's orders, no doubt.
Oh, I know. I'm anti-vigilante violence.
spocko
Well, so am I.
But if any disservice was done to DuMond, it was in not prosecuting the people who castrated him.
For the rape, he got the prison time he deserved. He did commit the rape, and he should have never been let out. He had a long record of violence, including suspected murder, and anyone who knew anything about the case (including me but apparently not the governor who had access to the entire file) knew that this guy was a bad egg, and as sad as it might be for him personally to have no balls, that in no way relieved the state from imposing punishement for crimes he committed.
The sheriff's actions are--uh--interesting, to put it mildly. Baroque and grisly, the whole ball thing is.
At the very least, he should have been sacked.
Tristero has been all over this over at Digby's--with references to Somerby and Lyons. Weird story--and amazing than Collins is trying to launder it for public consumption.
Just shows how far the MCMers* will go to try to elevate someone they approve of in public opinion. They do indeed see themselves as fucking kingmakers, not reporters or analysts.
*MCMers--Members of the Mainstream Corporate Media
I really don't want to know, but how do you survive the blood loss/shock from cutting off your own testicles?
Is this something that is in the crazy people handbook?
Once again, Reality shows its anti-Republican bias. Fortunately, for Wingers, it's eaily ignored.
Pun thread alert! JeffCo started it!
BTW, if the balls are cut off, a guy can still get enough of an erection to rape? Or did he just use something else to sexually molest the woman he killed in MO? OK, I don't really need to know...
and amazing than Collins is trying to launder it for public consumption.
They sense that they may need Hucksterbee, so they start setting the story now. If that works, later accusations against Huckster can be dismissed as partisan mudslinging.
I really don't want to know, but how do you survive the blood loss/shock from cutting off your own testicles?
Is this something that is in the crazy people handbook? - spocko
Steers, castrati and eunuchs have been around for a long, long, time. So it's doable.
At the very least, he should have been sacked.
JeffCO | 10.27.07 - 2:18 pm | #
You are a very sick and funny man.
"let's shag"-Richard Mellon Scaife to Chris Ruddy of Newsmax
They sense that they may need Hucksterbee, so they start setting the story now. If that works, later accusations against Huckster can be dismissed as partisan mudslinging.
rootless-e
I see an ad featuring a family member of the Missouri woman murdered by DuMond, an ad in which said family member wonders aloud about how the judgement of a man who set a convicted violent offender free without even looking over the file can be trusted....
Is this something that is in the crazy people handbook?
I'm no expert, but I believe one can use rubber bands to cut off the blood flow - I think that's what they do with animals.
Jennifer, didn't Hucksterbee actually campaign on the injustice done to Dumond?
If that works, later accusations against Huckster can be dismissed as partisan mudslinging.
There is no statute of imitations on Willie Horton ads.
JeffCO | 10.27.07 - 2:24 pm | #
Did you learn that on a farm in Colorado?
Or is that out of the "How to remove Nutz" handbook?
Uhhh, A-Man, sorry about last night.
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wasn't there a claim by a lady wingnut to the effect that she castrated sheep with her teeth?
You know, 60 Minutes did a segment on the DuMond case about 20 years ago...long before Clinton ever ran for president and before the county sheriff had died. I wonder if there might be a transcript somewhere online....or offline.
Notice that Collins highlights the second most popular ReThug excuse: Who could have imagined a convicted rapist-murderer would have done such a thing when freed from prison?
It's right after: What's wrong with humorless Dems? Can't you understand when a Rethug is joking?
Did you learn that on a farm in Colorado? Or is that out of the "How to remove Nutz" handbook?
Childhood time on grandparents' farm in Mountainhick, WVa.
I see an ad featuring a family member of the Missouri woman murdered by DuMond, an ad in which said family member wonders aloud about how the judgement of a man who set a convicted violent offender free without even looking over the file can be trusted....
Jennifer
"I think it's just really pathetic that [insert name of Dem candidate] is so desperate to score political points that s/he would drag this poor family, who have already suffered so much, through the mud. It's a sad commentary on the partisanship that divides our nation, and one reason people are so disinterested in politics."
/falls off log
wasn't there a claim by a lady wingnut to the effect that she castrated sheep with her teeth?
Yes, but it was later shown to be a ball-faced lie.
I'm no expert, but I believe one can use rubber bands to cut off the blood flow - I think that's what they do with animals. - JeffCO
Don't think they had rubber bands in my Grandfather's time.
Yes, but it was later shown to be a ball-faced lie.
JeffCO
She turned out to be nuts.
Don't think they had rubber bands in my Grandfather's time.
Maybe they used sheep intestines?
This thread is getting rather teste s.
Northeastern states: BOHICA! Heating oil's gonna get ya really bad this winter, if the BushCo oil price spike continues. Latest news was, of course, the usual "unexpectedly low heating oil inventories."
...our present spike in oil has nothing to do with peak oil direclty, but instead everything to do with a gush of dollars. Peak dollar capacity, not peak production capacity, is what is making $100/bbl the new "over/under" number among the oil traders I talk to. They freely admit that the worse the mistakes of Bush and Bernanke, the better it is for them. This is how to win the economic game: make it so that others pay if you win, and others pay if you lose. If Iraq had been won, Bush and his friends would be riding the tax cuts from the activity created. Now that it has failed, others pay the price in the form of plummeting land values and higher oil costs.
The present spike of oil is, to some extent, driven by offshoring and demand. This decade is really like the 1920's not the 1930's.
From Sterling Newberry, so it's looong.
http://agonist.org/
stirling_newb..._bungle_for_oil
If a Rethug is elected prez under these economic circumstances, it will be due to stealing the election, total MCM* lies on the R's behalf, and complete Dem incompetence. The latter seems more and more likely lately, unfortunately, given our Congresscritters' lack of spine....
*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media
The real reason for the spike in oil prices is the pouring of dollars into the global economy meant to bail out the banking sector without imposing any accountability on the people who run it. ~~Sterling Newberry
From my link above.
Re: the Newberry quote--I recall reading that the Middle East oil suppliers saw the increase in per barrel price as simply maintaining the status quo for their revenue since they trade oil in a declining value dollar.
We are so fucked.
If a Rethug is elected prez under these economic circumstances, it will be due to stealing the election, total MCM* lies on the R's behalf, and complete Dem incompetence. The latter seems more and more likely lately, unfortunately, given our Congresscritters' lack of spine....
I'm shifting away from "they'll never give up power" more toward "they'll happily hand both the WH and the Congress to Dems just as the full extent to which the economy and the war have gone down the crapper becomes clear." The Dems will discover every last bit of resources gone and have no choice but to seek some revenue increases. The GOP will fight them at every turn, the MCM will help, and Cheney's minions scattered throughout the bureaucracy will work to subvert the day to day functioning of the government. They will make the Clenis years look like a love-in.
There will be no reason for them to stay in power to be blamed. They will have stolen everything of worth. They also know the Dems would never ever ever abuse the dictatorial powers they have amassed (not even Hillary), so those will sit unused until the Dems build up the economy, fix all the problems Bush created, and get the country back on track. At that point they will steal the next election and start over.
But I'm just spitballing here.
A different kind of draft:
Facing shortage, U.S. to order diplomats to Iraq
Lacking volunteers, State Department plans largest call-up since Vietnam
WASHINGTON - In the largest call-up of U.S. diplomats since the Vietnam War, the State Department is planning to order some of its personnel to serve at the American Embassy in Iraq because of a lack of volunteers.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2150...1067/from/RS.1/
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