I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
gugulla?
2nd?
gungulla... fuck.
gotta go, you dfh's.
This seems like a worthwhile charity and is especially relevant now.
http://www.modestneeds.org/
'Founded in 2002, Modest Needs is an award-winning public charity with a simple but critical mission: we work to stop the cycle of poverty BEFORE it starts for the low-income workers whom conventional philanthropy has forgotten.
We do this by empowering compassionate members of the general public to safely and securely help hard-working, low-income households to afford the kinds of short-term emergency expenses that we've all encountered before: the unexpected car repair, the unanticipated visit to the doctor, or the unusually large heating bill, for example.'
You know, it's nice to have a clear, logical, factually-based analysis of this but I still want to see Hillary pilloried. 
It's her turn, after all.
After I saw "The Jazz Singer" with Neil Diamond, I wanted a sequel too.
"More Cantor!"
I'm sure Drudge will apply the proper context.
it's too late the ighty wheels of renouncement are turning and Kantor will ground into Clinton like ...
Why are we having to hear about Mickey Kantor in 2008? Torgo is better known at this point.
Atrios makes it very hard to whore:
Hey, once again, anybody wanna join in Shutdown Day?
Wow! That was fast -- and thank you for the clarification.
Please take care in the future -- this stuff's gonna be out there and it seems our intertubes have some corruption as bad as the MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media).
After I saw "The Jazz Singer" with Neil Diamond, I wanted a sequel too.
"More Cantor!"
Jay C.
Atrios does the right thing - investigate.
Charity, who has money to give to charity these days?
http://impatientsufferance.com/2...ock-bottom-221/
Atrios makes it very hard to whore:
It's certainly not the best time to be one.
Space time restored. V-ger can go home now.
It doesn't matter what he meant. He used a bad word. That's a no-no unless you're Dick Cheney.
Nixon bombed Cambodia, that was fine. He used some expletives deleted and Murka was outraged.
If Drudge took off that stupid hat, would we see the alien that controls him, a giant pustule, a ureter, horns, or just empty space?
This can't be! Haloscan says '0'!
NTodd, how's the volleyball?
How much do you wanna guess that this will be a major story despite the fact that it's been investigated...and that the 24 hour networks will be talking about this at least all day?
What does Eddie Cantor think?
I listened too...
It is hard to tell if it is be or beaten, but therein lies the context!
The Repukkkes will try any dirty trick in the book. No surprise, because they're never called on it.
I'm happy to learn this, mostly because it puts a damper on the premature joculation going on over at Huffington Post.
Space time restored. V-ger can go home now.
Mmm...sexy bald chicks...
For doncjesuis, a glowing review of last nite's "30 Rock." With, um, pictures:
http://www.avclub.com/content/tv...ck/
sandwich_day
This can't be! Haloscan says '0'!
pigboy | 05.02.08 - 12:13 pm | #
If Haloscan said jump of a cliff (250), would you?
Meanwhile Drudge managed to punk the liberal blogs yet again.
Charity, Chastity, Prudence and Hope
(still luv Husker Du)
Hey NTodd, do you remember what you told me when I asked you about beach volleyball?
Here's the latest on Coulter
from my page
David Addington to testify before the House Judiciary committee next teusday?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...ives/
192657.php
Atrios does the right thing - investigate.
There used to be a word for that sort of thing. I think it started with a "J"
A blogger ethics panel should definitely be convened in order to investigate Atrios' investigation, which clearly overstepped the bounds between blogging and REAL journamalisming.
repost from last thread:
I'll tell you guys something.
The obsession you guys have with trolls is not doing your "friend" Atrios any favours.
When you start going on and on about trolls, the thread becomes unreadable to just about everyone.
Readership goes down, Atrios' revenues go down.
Your friend "Atrios" just bought himself a house, so if you do consider Atrios one of the good guys, give the troll thing a rest because you are harming him.
If Haloscan said jump of a cliff (250), would you?
Matty | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:14 pm | #
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If it promised there would be water down below I might.......
oh, so THAT'S what he means by worthless white n****.
I'd tend to agree with him then.
You can gauge how radical a countercultural even is by the number of bald chicks present.
The whole thing would have been dumb even if he had said those things.
How does it matter ?
Meanwhile Drudge managed to punk the liberal blogs yet again.
puppethead | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:14 pm | #
He does it all the time, this one was just too demonstrably false.
If Drudge took off that stupid hat, would we see the alien that controls him, a giant pustule, a ureter, horns, or just empty space? - B1 Bummer Prog Frog
Yes.
I love it when this dumb shit manages to blow over before I'm aware of it.
.
We can't have fun with trolls anymore?
I thought that was the reason to come here.
damn.
How is ol' Estrus Polecat doing these days?
(Ann Coulter's real name!)
"[...]Speaking of math -- the Obama campaign rolls out another former DNC chairman's endorsement on Friday: Paul Kirk, a superdelegate who led the party from 1985-1989, is coming out for Obama -- a day after Andrew's switch, an Obama campaign official tells The Note. (And don't count on that being it for the day, as the dribble continues.)
From Kirk's statement Friday morning: "It is with a great sense of pride and confidence in his leadership that I am delighted to publicly endorse Senator Barack Obama and pledge my support to him as former National Democratic Chairman and as a superdelegate....[...]"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/T...=3105288&
page=1
If Drudge took off that stupid hat, would we see the alien that controls him, a giant pustule, a ureter, horns, or just empty space?
You mean this guy?
.
mimi | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:15 pm |
Anyone else find massive doses of irony in the transvestite's comments? You project more than Rush Limbaugh's pilondial cyst...Wait, that is from where you came...
[Applies Skreen Kwel Gel For Threadlice to the monitor]
Meanwhile Drudge managed to punk the liberal blogs yet again.
puppethead
Right, 'cause we could never find YouTube if the eggman didn't link to it.
Like these guys.
.
If you are correct (and your understanding makes sense), then we have to assume that someone has specifically referred to Clinton as a "WWN," and Kantor is referencing that. But who are "those people" and why are they "shit"? Interesting nonetheless.
For doncjesuis, a glowing review of last nite's "30 Rock." With, um, pictures:
http://www.avclub.com/content/tv...ck/ sandwich_day
Jay C.
Awesome! Merci.
Fey can glam it up but she’s absolutely fearless about looking like absolute shit
The truly beautiful often are. 
Thank you.
I find readership goes up when trolls are toyed with. But it's nice to get so much heartfelt advice from a nonblogger troll.
I think Drudge has Quato under his hat or something.
How much do you wanna guess that this will be a major story despite the fact that it's been investigated...and that the 24 hour networks will be talking about this at least all day?
and it must be true! we've heard it not only from Drudge, but from the Blue Satan!
like I said, Vicki you're not doing Atrios any favours by doing that.
It's the number one recommended diary on the Daily DogShit.
A funny song
Hayes Carll "She Left Me for Jesus"
Apology accepted. Doubly because it was prompt. Guess Drudge is in the tank for Hillary in the primary.
Know hope Atrios.
Sad:
"A Marine sergeant who became a symbol of resilience as he strove to recover from a roadside bomb blast in Iraq that blanketed 97% of his body with burns has died, the Defense Department said. He was 22.
Sgt. Merlin German died April 11 at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, where he was continuing treatment for the injuries he suffered in combat on Feb. 22, 2005, the Pentagon said Thursday.
The former turret gunner was dubbed the “Miracle Man” for his determination in facing his wounds, which cost the former saxophone player his fingers and rippled his face with scars. He endured more than 40 surgeries, spent 17 months in a hospital and had to learn to walk again."
http://agonist.org/schecter/
mimi,
I don't give a fuck about doing Atrios favors. He's an A-List Blogger and he hates me.
LOUD OBBS is gonna plotz
I send greetings to those celebrating Cinco de Mayo.
Cinco de Mayo is a joyful day in Mexican history and an important milestone in the history of freedom. On May 5, 1862, an outnumbered band of Mexican soldiers defeated a large European power against overwhelming odds at the Battle of Puebla. Emboldened by victory and yearning for independence, Mexican patriots ultimately won independence in 1867. Today, we remember these heroic accomplishments and all those working to advance peace and liberty around the globe.
This holiday is also an opportunity to recognize the strong ties of family, economy, and culture that bind the United States and Mexico. Through a shared commitment to economic liberty and the universal right of freedom, the United States and Mexico continue to build a future of prosperity and opportunity for all people.
Laura and I send our best wishes. Que Dios los bendiga.
yes, people love to read 200 comments in a row saying "blow me you fat transvestite"
Vicki, I knew you were an egotist.
Oh, for pete's sake. You're sniping about sniping and how unproductive it is. By sniping.
I am sure this correction will make it all better.
it was all over the liberal internet before drudge picked it up. I only thought it noteworthy then because from drudge it goes right into the mainstream. Still I should've checked more carefully before i posted
But who are "those people" and why are they "shit"? Interesting nonetheless.
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This has to be the most out of context hack job I've ever seen. "Those people" could mean a millions things. The press, other campaign apparatchiks, etc. It was a time when Clinton was being referred to as "black", etc.
yes, people love to read 200 comments in a row saying "blow me you fat transvestite"
mimi | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Maybe if they are transvestites with weight problems. It's a nice ego boost.
so help me out, is or is not indiana shit?
yup, looks like Kantor was quoting someone.
You are only apologizing so Kanter doesn't add you to the libel suit.
You should be writing about it and be horrified at the obama campaign for doing it as you have been with the Clinton campaign...oh wait --it's just politics when Obama does it ...but the worst thing evah when Clinton does it.
Mickey Kantor Does Not Hold the People of Indiana in the Highest Esteem [Byron York]
I've gotten a bunch of emails with a link to this clip on YouTube, a snippet of a scene from The War Room, the hagiographic documentary on the 1992 Clinton campaign team. In it, Mickey Kantor, one of the Clintons' oldest friends and advisers, refers to the people of Indiana in some rather ugly, profane and uncomplimentary ways. From Hillary Clinton's perspective, it's not exactly a good thing to come out a few days before the Indiana primary
The thing has been debunked, Yorkie, even by Indianians.
Still I should've checked more carefully before i posted
Why? Drudge never does and he's HUGE.
Jebus, that is sad. 40 surgeries? Here's another one to lay at your doorstep, Bush.
it was all over the liberal internet before drudge picked it up. I only thought it noteworthy then because from drudge it goes right into the mainstream. Still I should've checked more carefully before i posted
Atrios | 05.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Still, I haven't seen many other people trying to clarify it either.
Atrios might have made a mistake but he quickly fixed it IMHO
I only thought it noteworthy then because from drudge it goes right into the mainstream.
Into the MSM per anum.
Why? Drudge never does and he's HUGE.
Steve McGarrett | 05.02.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Be nice. It's glandular.
Anyway, dumb fake controversy. Apologies for even linking to it.
fake?
The "Namestealing" thread from yesterday morning. Gee, that's funny, look what happened to the fake NTodd gravatar.
i fw'd the link to 4 doods in indiana before it was "fixed" fwiw.
I didn't think you actually had to say something for you to have said it in the fairly tale land of the msm
And people love reading bullshit from trolls who know nothing but what they read in Time magazine and try to attack regulars. Toufuckingche.
ah yes, we all know no "progressive" has ever used the n-word, not even in their pure, achy-breaky hearts...
I didn't think you actually had to say something for you to have said it in the fairly tale land of the msm
pigboy | 05.02.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Well, they could have said it. Same thing.
Into the MSM per anum.
Every year through the anus?
Do we have a troll infestation?
Does anybody remember on the X-Files "Die Flea Die!"?
We could have a similar compound devised.
The key point here should be it was Bush the Elder's war room that referred to the Clinton camp as "white niggers".
Just ask "NTodd" something only NTodd would know.
I did - it can't answer.
Case closed.
Next.
I never went to community college because I didn't want to have to listen to the 2˘ of the teachers.
I went to university instead.
Hey, now! Indiana Jones movies are still too kewl fer skewl! Even when incurably dorky and he's saddled with that Scrappy Doo kid. He's too old for those kinds of adventures now, so in the new movie, he'll be looking for the lost raisin pie of the Aztec Assisted Living facility.
I'm listening to David Gregory on the Diane Rhem show. He loves the sound of his own voice, I'm sure he'll do well on cable yackdom.
The video is stupid, but Sydney's email campaign needs to discussed.
How do Clinton supporters feel about Blumenthal using the same tactics against Obama that we all complained about for years when employed against the Clintons?
Why do Clinton supporters think this is fair game? And why did Joe Conason and others keep this under wraps?
The "Namestealing" thread from yesterday morning. Gee, that's funny, look what happened to the fake NTodd gravatar.
Marcellina
It must be residual damage from the space-time rift Atrios created, then repaired.
Messing with space-time should only be handled by professionals in the field, or science fiction authors.
Sallyh,
How ya' doin', kiddo?
The "Namestealing" thread from yesterday morning. Gee, that's funny, look what happened to the fake NTodd gravatar.
Marcellina
what does the real ntodd grav look like now?
Every year through the anus? -
NTodd
Drudge is an asshole. I rest my case.
If Drudge took off that stupid hat, would we see the alien that controls him, a giant pustule, a ureter, horns, or just empty space?
Brain Slug
product from oppo research farm. but which?
Gee, that's funny, look what happened to the fake NTodd gravatar.
Shocking. Simply shocking.
Confirming who the namestealer was yesterday...
Glenn, actually doing pretty well. 39 days, feeling better, enjoying life more.
Things better with Monsieur, not with Mlle, but I'm her mom and I never lose hope.
The key point here should be it was Bush the Elder's war room that referred to the Clinton camp as "white niggers".
puppethead | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:27 pm | #
What is that--context? Noooooooooooo..!
Marcellina, my gravatar is from the Internet also. Could be stolen as well.
I bet you one thing though - if you check that e-mail with the one I use, they will be different.
Drudge is an asshole. I rest my case.
Quod Erat Drudgenstrandum!
so help me out, is or is not indiana shit?
Who knows? Maybe "those people" are the Indiana GOP campaign who are "shit" because they are unable (with all their advantages) to overcome a WWN. Maybe "those people" are stupid talking heads who talk out of their collective ass. (That would be too beautifully ironic to be true, though.)
Confirming who the namestealer was yesterday...
NTodd, Gams Man | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 12:28 pm | #
Was there ever a doubt?
If Drudge took off that stupid hat, would we see the alien that controls him, a giant pustule, a ureter, horns, or just empty space?
Drudge staring in a new Sci-Fi Original move, "The Puppet Masturbators".
what does the real ntodd grav look like now?
Depends on how you look at it!
The Mickey Kantor clip is about to become a big gaffe. Just went up on Drudge.
From the Washington Post about a half hour ago.
Drudge rules their world.
Well, they could have said it. Same thing.
abyssgazer, Kang4ever | 05.02.08 - 12:26 pm | #
I know. It reminds me so much of that movie "out foxed"...... 'there are those who say', 'everyone knows' used as 'reliable' sources
Was there ever a doubt?
Well, no, not really. But still, it's funny when they out themselves...
The key point here should be it was Bush the Elder's war room that referred to the Clinton camp as "white niggers".
Well, Kantor certainly thought, probably correctly, that was the attitude of the Bush camp. I don't know that the Bushies ever actually said it though. But if you have a link, please share.
39 days, feeling better, enjoying life more.
{{{hugs}}}
39 dys is EXCELLENT!
You go, girl.
You are in my thoughts, daily.
Sallyh,
That's generally good news and I'm glad to hear it. Remember the ol' Mark Twain notion about children: The older they get, the smarter you'll become in their eyes.
Drudge can actually climb into his own anus and dissapear into a paralel universe, then shit himself back out!
NTodd's grav is a duck passing through a black hole.
Any chance will see Cindy McCain at the Kentucky Derby tomorrow? She looks like the type to attend a horse race wearing a big white hat and slamming mint juleps.
Sorry, Toadie. Yesterday I was celebrating May Day.
Drudge has one of those irritating pix of Hilary with her mouth gaping open in delusional scream style smile.
Bill must have been coaching her, that's his perpetual attitude for photos. But it looks outrageous on Hill, who otherwise is attractive lady.
so help me out, is or is not indiana shit?
I've never been in Indiana, but I'll bet that parts of it are.
NTodd's grav is a duck passing through a black hole.
That's a rabbit asshole.
[yes, there is no comma]
Gee, that's funny, look what happened to the fake NTodd gravatar.
Shocking. Simply shocking.
Richard
Pretty embarrassing, but then I suppose trolls don't have the capacity to feel compunction.
Lots of chicken farms in Indiana.
Atrios was wrong to jump the gun.
But to his credit, he corrected the record, or, at least, cast doubt on it.
I know. It reminds me so much of that movie "out foxed"...... 'there are those who say', 'everyone knows' used as 'reliable' sources - pigboy
Don't forget the unimpeachable veracity of "some say".
[yes, there is no comma]
"the Bart, the"
what does the real ntodd grav look like now?
NTodd's was tastee freez, but it was copied (and overnight it morphed into a picture of Pebbles, how about that?) so that wooden duck thing is what he's using. And that is the real NTodd.
CNN covering Bush's town hall meeting in St. Louis, on the economy:
Bush: "Secondly, someone has to make that which you purchase." ...
"I know you're having tough times, I know you're paying more at the pump than you want to, but this economy is gonna come on, I know it will." ...
"The more that gasoline goes up, the more your payin' at that pump, the less money you have for your family. It took a while for us to get in this fix, it'll take a while to get out of it." ...
"My attitude is, I understand the pain." ...
"We built too many houses. Just gotta work through the system."
God damn he's stupid. The microphone he's holding is covered with spittle. He seems really agitated and out of control, like he's in a family argument or something.
feeling better, enjoying life more.
Things better with Monsieur, not with Mlle, but I'm her mom and I never lose hope.
[positive thoughts pour Sallyh et famille]
Sallyh, u can haz end of semester soon?
What do you mean, "we," white man?
I'm sorry Vicki it's just that i have this terrible longing for you that i can't seem to get over. and i'm stuffed and feel really fat because i had two whole grapes for dinner this evening and now no one will ever love me and i'll be all alone
elias want to call me? god i'm really drunk
"My attitude is, I understand the pain." ...
But he doesn't give a shit.
Worthless fucker.
Don't forget the unimpeachable veracity of "some say".
bo | 05.02.08 - 12:32 pm | #
Yep and I am sure there are many more reliable sources along with that one too.
that looks like a dodo bird to me
Every state has its shitty parts. It's a holdover from the slow advance to indoor plumbing.
The more that gasoline goes up, the more your payin' at that pump, the less money you have for your family. It took a while for us to get in this fix-
Like, during your administration, right, Sparky?
Since Indiana is a backward state, I think you need to play the clip backwards.
Sallyh, I went through another little rough patch for a week or two. Better now. The insidious thing about this deal is the way it warps your perceptions about people, their personalities, inentions, etc. You simply don't know when you're wrong until something shifts around.
NTodd's was tastee freez, but it was copied (and overnight it morphed into a picture of Pebbles, how about that?) so that wooden duck thing is what he's using. And that is the real NTodd.
Apparently copied again, too. Somebody really likes to go out of their pathetic way to do such silly things.
Fortunately, it's as easy to change my gravatar as it is to change my underwear. Uh, wait...
"the Bart, the"
"No one who speaks German can be an evil man!"
-- Parole Judge, The Simpsons
Bush wants America to be treated like we treat any other nation.
Chimpy praises insurgents.*
* Mexican ones.
it was NTodd all along!
now he's copied my gravatar
so he really did call Vicki a desperate middle-aged sexless woman!
Scandal-ridden contracting firm KBR reported today that its first quarter net profits more than tripled, from $28 million last year to $98 million this year. Despite at least a dozen former employees alleging they had been raped by coworkers in Iraq and other employees saying coworkers regularly stole gold, artwork, and weapons, KBR remains in the Pentagon’s good graces: In mid-April, it received a 10-year, $150 billion contract to support the military overseas.
There's a real controversy.
Since Indiana is a backward state, I think you need to play the clip backwards.
Gomez
And those of us who live here who aren't backwards will hear "McCain is Dead. McCain is Dead."
Almost anywhere in Indiana is much nicer than Byron York's Birmfuckingham.
Since Indiana is a backward state, I think you need to play the clip backwards.
I tried it, all I hear is "Paul is dead."
God damn he's stupid. The microphone he's holding is covered with spittle. He seems really agitated and out of control, like he's in a family argument or something.
Chichimec | 05.02.08 - 12:32 pm | #
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I think that is why he likes his dirty little wars even though he can't run them but he can start them. When it comes to this nations economy he can't do either. So littleboots throughs a tantrum
thank you, marcellina. sorry mtodd. i will tune out tomorrow (do i have to drop acid too?). now i gotta go make jose canseco a sammich in the VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER.
After I saw "The Jazz Singer" with Neil Diamond, I wanted a sequel too.
"More Cantor!"
Jay C.
With Neil Diamond, Laurence Olivier, Lucie Arnaz how could it have missed?
Laurence Olivier?
and Marcellina a middle aged fat big busted Sicilian woman who looks like the Godfather's wife!
Apparently copied again, too.
When —today? On this thread? I just got here.
Atrios you're still linking to the youtube clip.
desperate middle-aged sexless woman!
The "woman" part's right, at least.
Hey, folks.
I've been doing actual, y'know, work.
Wazzup?
Glenn, I sent you email.
Vicki, thanks. I'm doing well with it.
Nice try but no.
Have another drink, dear.
When —today? On this thread? I just got here.
Well, when I looked at the Namestealing Thread, the fake NTodd had my new gravatar. Just waiting to sow seeds if distrust, thus destroying the Great Eschaton Community. More power to them.
you got caught NToad† trying to set me up!!!
Meme needs to take more of her meds and have a nap, I think!
Bush just now on CNN, at meeting in St. Louis:
"All I want is for America to be treated the way we treated other nations. I think that's a reasonable thing to ask."
"A tariff is a tax, more ex-pen-sivve" (spits all over the microphone as he says "ex-pen-sive")
CNN just cut him off. Ali Velshi says the talk was "folksy."
Yeah. That's what it was. Not stunningly ignorant, cringe-inducing stupid, frighteningly moronic. Folksy.
Since Indiana is a backward state, I think you need to play the clip backwards.
Gomez
Hey, I got your message. Thanks for the thoughtfulness, but it was all okay. I understand how things are the weekend before the sheriff's sale. I just didn't call back because I've been working with the CMO on an analysis of a poem, of all things (he's written a brilliant article on the philosophy of why health care needs to change, and he's illustrating his thoughts with poetry verses).
I have to say it is amazing how having the words in the subtitles puts those words as sounds in your head. Listen only to the audio cranked up in headphones and you really wonder how someone came up with that transcription.
Sick sick people... and the Drudge hits pile up.
donc, one more week of instruction, finals, grading, then two weeks off; I think I'm teaching this summer.
Atrios you're still linking to the youtube clip.
If he's going to have an interpretation (one that I think is correct) he needs to leave the link to the clip up so people can judge it for themselves.
Alright, NTodd, if that's your real name. You see a turtle, lying on its back. What do you do?
"All I want is for America to be treated the way we treated other nations. I think that's a reasonable thing to ask."
"A tariff is a tax, more ex-pen-sivve" (spits all over the microphone as he says "ex-pen-sive")
CNN just cut him off. Ali Velshi says the talk was "folksy."
As in "the folks in 'Deliverance'."
I don't namesteal, fucktard.
What's a turtle?
(actually, the line is 'tortoise' and Leon asks what that is, but whatever)
Last I knew, NTodd was my friend. That's all I need to know. I trust him.
Is this a test to see if I'm a replicant, or a lesbian?
CNN just cut him off. Ali Velshi says the talk was "folksy."
Speaking coherently is elitist...
"Come on, Charlie Congress, I'm holding the football for you. No, it's not a trick. I won't pull it away, honest." - David "Lucy" Addington
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Can it really be true? Will the high priest of executive privilege actually submit to a Congressional subpoena?
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"All I want is for America to be treated the way we treated other nations. I think that's a reasonable thing to ask."
What, he wants us to be invaded and occupied?
Sheety sheets.
Vicki - back at ya, babe.
Sheets of stupidity.
Were there any real live Americans at this "town meeting"?I can't believe Chimpy would have the guts to look any American in the eye these days.
Chimpy in St Louis can only mean a phony public event to stick the taxpayer with the cost of a closed-door Repuke fundraiser.
Ask Bush how we funded the US Government prior to the Civil War.
TARIFFS!
"All I want is for America to be treated the way we treated other nations. I think that's a reasonable thing to ask."
You want we should be bombed again?
All I want is for America to be treated the way we treated other nations
This nation posesses WMD's and is run by a maniac. I know what the treatment is supposed to be for that.
donc, one more week of instruction, finals, grading, then two weeks off; I think I'm teaching this summer.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
That doesn't sound like much of a break...
You probably won't even have time to squeeze in an SPSS refresher course.
I hope the end of term crunch goes relatively smoothly for you and you still get to have some quality summer vacation time.
mimi, I don't have long distance. I use phone cards. I'm on a budget.
Eh, as much as I'd like to saty this is evidence of racism (I think there's plenty enough of that in the 'You can't nominate a black guy' argument the Clinton team is relying on for Sd's), this is a common souther expression (though really, it shouldn't be) to denote what is generally referred to as 'white trash' in polite company. Of course, these people shouldn't be called 'white trash' either, not just for being born poor anyway.
Another person I thought was reasonable goes in all in for saint obama. See ya, have a nice general election without half the democratic voters. What a bunch of losers.
It's amazing to me how stupid the Hillary Clinton campaign is. You would think they would know that playing the race card right before primaries dominated by African American Democrats would be counterproductive, and yet they continue to play the race card right before these primaries!
Thanks for elevating the dialogue, Atrios. I was just thinking this morning, if there's one thing this primary campaign was missing it was the injection of the "n-word" on a non stop 24 hour cable loop.
Good boy, Atrios.
I think the "white n****r" (sorry, I'm 51 years old but if my 88-year old mother thought I even typed that word she'd wash my mouth out with soap) is bogus, but the "shit" part is fairly indisputable - I do not hear "shitting", as in "the White House must be worried". Combined with Hillary's "screw 'em" comment toward middle-class whites, her coffee-machine/gas station fiasco and her "God bless us rich folks, dahlink" comment to Billo, it seems as though the Clinton campaign is its own worst enemy. But it is like something Kantor and the rest of the Clinton coterie would have said, since they have never really given a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. Fortunately, it appears that the Obama people didn't jump on it, unlike the Clintons, who would have been screaming about it to the MSM 24/7. It just makes Obama look better, since instead of focusing on gossip he is attacking Hill's inane gas tax idea, calling her out for siding with McCain against the average American - you know, those 99% of the country that God, apparently, hasn't blessed. Isn't it funny, though, how the same tactics of lies and innuendo and half-truths that the Clinton campaign has been using has turned around to bite them in the ass? Even if the video isn't true, you'll hear about it, and Clinton will have to deny it at every turn. Maybe she should denounce Kantor - an advisor to her campaign, unlike Wright or Ayers to Obama's campaign. Oh, but then she would have to admit she did something wrong but, of course, she could always say that the PSTD she got from her Bosnia experience warped her fragile little mind.
Atrios has the link wrong. This link is the same as the last one (to the fake video), which seems to have been taken down from YouTube.
Original War Room clip is here
"But it is like something Kantor and the rest of the Clinton coterie would have said, since they have never really given a flying fuck about anyone but themselves"
You people really are DERANGED.
But apologies for even linking to it...
Well that little apology won't help because now you helped spread the story...in the famous (Cokie Roberts voice) "it's out there". (imo You should delete the whole posts and comment
Sigh...I hate this crap, and the left blogosphere acting just like righwingnutosphere and the media....sigh.....following right in their footsteps.
We need Rumor Buster!
Here's MyDD post with some details:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5...5/2/12402/
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Then, Politico's Ben Smith gets quote from Director Pennebaker who denounces the YouTube as doctored:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/
be..._Doctoered.html
Damn, it's getting very muddy in the Intertubes.
Well well. I guess Drudge rules "our" world now, too.
It's fairly obvious the "shit" comment is about how the Bush Pere people feel about how Perot is getting high polling numbers. As in so nervous they're crapping their pants?
Sheesh.
We need Rumor Busters on the job full time!
But it is like something Kantor and the rest of the Clinton coterie would have said
"Oh, the accusation is false? Well, it was plausible, so I'm sure you must be guilty of something equivalent."
Yeah, like Drudge is now the imprimateur of what gets posted?
Scary.
I understand what Atrios was saying, that if Drudge has it posted it's going to get into the MCM, but, yikes!
There needs be investigation, maybe?
"it's okay daddy called Vietnamese people gooks"-cable news
What part of "I've never USED THE WORD" don't you understand? He didn't say white nigger. You should correct and apologize, atrios.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...in_n_99810.html
"I've never used that word in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever," an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent's work fighting for civil rights. "I have listened to [the video] and so have you. You can't tell what it is I'm saying in that second sentence, you can't decipher that."
Note to Hillary:
They who live by the Drudge and O'Reilly, die by the Drudge and O'Reilly.
She doesn't mind using whatever is available - until, of course, someone turns the tables on her. Has she cried yet? Have the tears of persecution flowed? Has she performed her poor, put-upon woman routine, insulting feminism in this country one more time to score political points? Why should she even have any worries at all, she she and her cohorts are so surely blessed by God?
I believe the video should be removed, if it is shown to be a fake. But I do not want to hear the false cries of indignation from the Clinton campaign, who tried to used a video of Obama scratching his head in order to infer that he was giving Hillary the finger. Actually, the last thing Obama needs is this video, if he really wanted to get nasty. Hillary constantly talks about how she is trying to get all of this dirty laundry out there because it is what the Rethugs will use against Obama in the GE. But Obama could easily bring up Gennjifer and Monica and stained blue dresses and impeachment hearings and Webster Hubble and the McDougals and the Rose Law Firm and the bimbo alerts and the Bosnia tarmac and the hypocrisy of DADT and DOMA and the futures trading profits and the losses to Rethugs that the Clintons caused to make the Dem majority in Congress disappear and their contribution to Al Gore's loss in 2000 because Billy Boy couldn't keep his dick in his pants and...well, you get the point. It doesn't matter if any of it is true. What IS true is that the Rethugs are going to remind the American public of all the drama and lies and hypocrisy of the Clinton years, and the MSM will gladly help them along so Gramps McLame can take the GE. So while the MSM and the blogs are obsessed with what may or may not be true about this video, Obama is lambasting both Clinton and McCain on their stupid-ass gas tax idea. So Clinton is being tarred by her past, just like she has done to Obama. How are you going to fight the terrorists if you can't fight a video on YouTube?
Sorry, I meant "since she and her cohorts are so surely blessed by God." See, I don't need Howard Wolfson to try and correct my stupid-ass mistakes.
Have the tears of persecution flowed? Has she performed her poor, put-upon woman routine...
Cue the Hillary hate and the misogyny. It never ends, does it? It never ends. And how I look forward to years more of it.
You know, I thought the candidate with the base that believed God was in the White House was about as bad as could be. But, silly me, things can get worse. WWTSBQ?
You're turning into one of them. I might as well given money to Josh Marshall.
This was a classic ratfuck. As always, the question is "Who benefits?"
Move along, Susie, move along! There's no story here!
Lambert, I am a 51-year old gay white male and I am more of a feminist than Hillary Clinton has ever been. Hillary would throw every woman in this country under a bus to win the nomination. She'd do the same to women that she and Bill did to gays with DADT and DOMA. So don't wag that finger of mysogyny at me, because it isn't going to work. I find it absolutely astonishing that in 2008 there are still people in this country who bring up the question of whether our country is ready for a woman or a black man (or a black woman, for that matter) to be president. I do not wish to deny Hillary Clinton a shot at the presidential nomination because she is a woman. I want her out of the running because she is a lying, pandering Republican-in-Democrat's-clothing. She would sell out every Democratic principle in a heartbeat. Hillary is just as much a Democrat as the next man - if the next man is Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman. Oh, and please try to explain to me how, if a videotape of an Obama staffer appeared where they said something misogynist, whether it was actually truly said or not, Clinton wouldn't be screaming about it on the MSM for 24/7 and Wolfson and Penn wouldn't be using it against him.
While I agree with Atrios that the second quote is bogus, I don't buy the explanation for the first. "Those people are shit," was the way I heard it and interpreted it... when I first watched the film in 1994.
I was attending college at a state school in Indiana at the time. We viewed the film in one of our political science classes (it was a course on political campaign administration, if memory serves) about a week or so before the '94 midterms. Being from out-of-state, the quote didn't bug me much at all. But every native Hoosier in the class, including the Democrats, were outraged. In fact, the outcry at that scene required the professor to stop the tape and rewind, because the next two minutes the buzz in the classroom drowned out the audio.
I know of at least three moderate/independent classmates who pulled the "R" lever the next week in part due to that rant, and depending how much that story got around campus, it may have cost the Dems a House seat, as a the Democratic candidate lost a tight battle for an open seat to a Republican who hammered home Clinton's unpopularity at the time. The R won by running even in the campus-area precincts, which normally leaned 60-65 percent D.
The second part is bogus, but the first quote is very, very real.
Dom
Nice work getting your 'true or not'
video picked up by Drudge. Keep up the good work.
Donnie
There is an old saying, I think if come from the Bible, and if it doesn't, it doesn't matter, you can just say it does and people will believe you, there is an old saying from the Bible that says Evil turns upon itself.
I think from this its clear to me and the rest of the country that the Democrats are the party of evil, since as soon as they get even a sniff of power, they start devouring each other like orcs...
Sorry, not the Bible. Lord of the Rings. Same difference.
"I was going to ignore it until Drudge posted it, but stupid me anyway."
Ha, ha! "Until Drudge posted it..."
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
http://www.george-orwell.org/Ani...mal_Farm/
9.html
Dom | 05.02.08 - 2:38 pm ~~~ Strongly recommend you read today's Krugman.
RedSox04 | 05.02.08 - 1:02 pm ~~~ Please note there's a difference between "playing the race card" and being accused of doing so. It appears that the Obama camp has been doing the latter to the Clintons (google Sean Wilentz), perhaps to the detriment of Obama's overall image. But it had short term payback.
I think the first utube video was audio enhanced...to hear what he whispered (not dubbed as Clinton director friend is saying). After viewing the actual documentary footage, Kantor clearly says the sh#t quote. And with regard to the white Nig#$$ quote I don't know, but there are plenty of scientific ways to find out. Sorry but don't buy the innocent "working in the white house" version. Why whisper that and his look is way too squirrely and furtive. As Bush would say "READ MY LIPS" or rather read his lips.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...howe_a0b00d.htm
‘The War Room’ (PG)
By Desson Howe
Washington Post Staff Writer
November 12, 1993
... "War Room" is shot in the nonscripted, cinema-verite style by D. A. Pennebaker (whose follow-around films on President Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey and Bob Dylan are documentary classics) and Chris Hegedus. Whether Carville and company are play-acting somewhat for the cameras becomes less important as the film progresses. One can only keep up an act for so long -- especially in the throes of a campaign. Carville's tearful farewell speech to his staff as they close up just before the election, Stephanopoulos's frank talk with a potential blackmailer and a Mickey Kantor comment about the people of Indiana (when it looks as though Clinton's ahead in Dan Quayle's state) attest to this.
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WTF happened to the reality-based community. Well at least a few people still get it.
Two words: Matt Drudge (6+ / 0-)
He's fucking with both sides on this.
Sad thing is, it's working.
by mcjoan on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:51:45 AM PDT
...it was actually a top-rated diary here before it was mentioned on Drudge. Tons of commenters in the original rec'd diary here (Was it deleted, or did it die a natural death?) were actually commenting that they were sending it TO Drudge, not getting it from him.
by Addison on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:43:12 PM PDT
Which is even less defensible
People on this site using Drudge for their crap? Appalling.
by mcjoan on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:48:47 PM PD
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