I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarHee.


Gravatar2 firsts today.


GravatarGetting it wrong--that seems to happen a lot.


GravatarI drink Old Style from a Franken Stein.


GravatarThat's some buzz.


GravatarFun with special effects...

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/...hives/ 9642.html


GravatarI don't know what buzz you were listening to, Atrios. It's always been his to lose.


GravatarAl Franken Decade is a great band name


GravatarJeez. auggie's still playing soothsayer -- that moron.


GravatarMan is O'Reilley going to be pissed.


GravatarHecate-- I am delighted that you decided to go see Sen Clinton today. I missed the speech, as I was on an outing with my mom, but will watch it online later.


GravatarCool!


GravatarJust because our Congress-critters are all shitting on him for some unfunny article he wrote for Playboy eight years ago?

I fucking hate this election year.


Gravatarjust what the Senate needs, more levity.


GravatarGromit! How are you on this fine day? Is Chez Bachelor Gromit coming to a close?


GravatarHi, plantsman. How are things out your way?


GravatarBut the somber faces that turned out to see Clinton end her campaign -- and the scattered boos that greeted her mentions of Obama's name -- suggested the lengths to which both Clinton and Obama must go to move beyond the battles of the longest primary season in history. - ABC News


DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER HEAL THE RIFT. OBAMA'S ONE WORLD SOCIALISM WILL NEVER FLY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH LIPSTICK HE PUTS ON THAT PIG. JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT POTUS.


GravatarSay bye bye, Norm Coleman


GravatarOh, and my mother the lifelong republican is voting for Obama. She said, "How could you not vote for him, after hearing him and his wife speak?"


GravatarHas he slipped up and called it the Democrat Party again recently?



I bet his Quality Control officer has not let him hear the end of that fuck up.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 06.07.08 - 3:28 pm | #



I consider it my duty to remind him of his failure every time I see his pathetic ass crawl out of the woodwork.


Gravatargrey. Misty, but okay.


GravatarWell Buzz, if that is his real name, obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.


GravatarNice:

"Today as I suspend my campaign, I congratulate him on the victory he has won and the extraordinary race he has run. I endorse him and throw my full support behind him and I ask of you to join me in working as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me," the New York senator said in her 28-minute address.

With that and 13 other mentions of his name, Clinton placed herself solidly behind her Senate colleague from Illinois, a political sensation and the first black to secure a presidential nomination.

Obama, in a statement, declared himself "thrilled and honored" to have Clinton' support.

"I honor her today for the valiant and historic campaign she has run," he said. "She shattered barriers on behalf of my daughters and women everywhere, who now know that there are no limits to their dreams. And she inspired millions with her strength, courage and unyielding commitment to the cause of working Americans."


GravatarMrs. Ibrahim, I am strongly in favor of levity. There's been so little of it since 2000


GravatarWill Al Franken be the first Senator who has admitted to using LSD for recreational purposes?

That would be cool.

And "historic."


Gravatarauggie's just pissed because the undocumented workers at his jobsite got another raise.

bummer dude. good luck with that Churros and Cafe Con Leche run now.


GravatarOne thing running for the Senate did for Norm Coleman -- he got his teeth fixed.


GravatarIf anything, Franken needs to talk more. He's been pretty quiet lately.

Don't fuck it up, Al.


GravatarHecate, I am grateful to see that it appears we'll start behaving like liberals again. Class and dignity are absent in the Republican party; it sounds like we're back on the high road.


Gravatargrey. Misty, but okay.

Sounds normal for there. I'm awaiting new storms. I actually got scared yesterday. Has not happened to me since Viet Nam.


Gravatarhttp://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/ ...79fupdate.phtml
Jane Curtin: Well, the 1970's are in their final month, and with some thoughts on this decade and the one we're about to enter, here's Weekend Update's Social Sciences Editor Al Franken.

Al Franken: Thank you, Jane. Well, the "me" decade is almost over, and good riddance, and far as I'm concerned. The 70's were simply 10 years of people thinking of nothing but themselves. No wonder we were unable to get together and solve any of the many serious problems facing our nation. Oh sure, some people did do some positive things in the 70's - like jogging - but always for the wrong reasons, for their own selfish, personal benefit. Well, I believe the 80's are gonna have to be different. I think that people are going to stop thinking about themselves, and start thinking about me, Al Franken. That's right. I believe we're entering what I like to call the Al Franken Decade. Oh, for me, Al Franken, the 80's will be pretty much the same as the 70's. I'll still be thinking of me, Al Franken. But for you, you'll be thinking more about how things affect me, Al Franken. When you see a news report, you'll be thinking, "I wonder what Al Franken thinks about this thing?", "I wonder how this inflation thing is hurting Al Franken?" And you women will be thinking, "What can I wear that will please Al Franken?", or "What can I not wear?" You know, I know a lot of you out there are thinking, "Why Al Franken?" Well, because I thought of it, and I'm on TV, so I've already gotten the jump on you. So, I say let's leave behind the fragmented, selfish 70's, and go into the 80's with a unity and purpose. That's what I think. I'm Al Franken. Jane?

Jane Curtin: Thank you, Al. That's the news. Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.


GravatarGromit, your mother sounds like a sensible Yankee woman. I'm guessing she was an old style Republican, someone you could actually have a conversation with.


GravatarWe actually get sun in summer, but it has yet to arrive.


GravatarBreaking from the DFL convention:

Al Franken has been endorsed for the U.S. Senate by acclamation at the DFL state convention in Rochester.

Franken’s rival, Jack Nelson-Pallmeyer, moved for the unnanimous endorsement when it became clear that Franken had amassed the 60 percent majority support needed on the first ballot.


GravatarGromit! How are you on this fine day? Is Chez Bachelor Gromit coming to a close?

Great! Just back from a drive in the mountains with my mother. We went to some of the spots that she and my dad used to visit, and had a picnic beside a mountain stream and waterfall.

Dr Mrs G is coming home tomorrow evening. Cleaning and laundry have already commenced.

94° inland in the Champlain Valley today, but a lovely and sunny 75° here with the breeze off the still-cold lake.

Are you getting some time in the Maddy pool today?


GravatarLonely McCain.


GravatarFrom below:

The speech was momentous. She showed what a classy lady she is. And f.u. to KO. I will probably never watch him again.
qlª


At one point, Keith directly misrepresented what she said, asking whether she should have done something more than "hoping and praying" that her supporters would support Obama--something like asking them to fight for their own goals by supporting him. She actually did that too.


GravatarAl Franken Decade is a great band name
Anon, 4th Edition Whitey

Al Franken Decayed.

Oscillator parameter joke that synth programmers would laugh at.


GravatarGromit, your mother sounds like a sensible Yankee woman. I'm guessing she was an old style Republican, someone you could actually have a conversation with.

Exactly right. Her father was a businessman and banker, and she has great scorn for people and governments who do not have their financial act together.


GravatarGromit, probably not. I have therapy w. Mlle shortly. I'm hoping we can have her get together with her daughter afterwards. We'll see how it goes.

Monsieur is painting the bathroom. Home improvements upset me. I plan to be out a lot this afternoon.


GravatarThe speech was momentous. She showed what a classy lady she is. And f.u. to KO. I will probably never watch him again.

I disabled MSNBC and CNN from my cable box immediately after it was installed.


GravatarGo Al Franken!

Even the blue dogs are going to vote with the Democrats if we have a majority. They'll be crazy if they don't.

(Not implying Franken is a blue dog.)


GravatarGromit, then the Bushites must have really, really pissed her off.


GravatarI did not see the speech but have read all about it and all I can say sincerely is good on Hillary!!!


GravatarThe sun is actually 93 million miles away. Sunshine maybe closer. And appears larger in your rear view mirror.


GravatarFrom the voter registration office in Pittsburgh. Since it became known that Hillary was dropping out of the race, we have had 3500 changes of registration, so far from dem. to rep. A vast number of them have mentioned that they were switching parties in protest of Hillary having been robbed of the nomination.
If you think dem's won't cross over to vote for McCain, you are gravely mistaken, at least in Pa.


GravatarDumb fuck.


GravatarBuzz is so wrong so often it's amazing anyone listens to it.


GravatarA woman who votes for McCain does not care much for women, imo.


GravatarGromit, you'd better get all the empties out. And those dishes piling up in the sink? Get that dishwasher rocking!


GravatarCLINTON DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN '08

JOIN US.


GravatarDEMOCRATS WILL NEVER HEAL ... Zzzzz
auggiesback


I hope not. In time, it would be nice to drive all the Blue Dogs (or Gypsy Moth Repugs) back into the Republican party where they belong.


GravatarGetting it wrong--that seems to happen a lot.

yep. without the whole story, it is best to keep an open mind.



"Every moment looking back wastes time we could be moving forward"
~HRC


GravatarA woman who votes for McCain does not care much for women, imo.

Anyone who votes for McCain is a fucking idiot.


GravatarEd Schultz was on about this yesterday. I haven't yet read the link, but it sounds like Al won, no?


GravatarA large number of Republicans re-registered as Democrats to vote in the PA primary. Let them go back -- and go with them, Bugs.


GravatarThe sun is actually 93 million miles away. Sunshine maybe closer. And appears larger in your rear view mirror.

"Warning! Assholes in mirror are closer than they appear!" --Acc Ventura


GravatarSorry, just got in from 18 holes in Orland Park....Anything happen in the news today?

-


GravatarAl won "by Acclimation."


GravatarShit...there's a gopher in my yard.

In the "Gopher State"? Who'd thunk?


Gravatar
Anything happen in the news today?


Allen Butler peed in his dress and made mommy unhappy.


GravatarGromit, you'd better get all the empties out. And those dishes piling up in the sink? Get that dishwasher rocking!

Being a guy, I should probably get them off the floor first.

Actually, the place looks pretty good. Gonna spend some time tending her plants this afternoon. But not too much, as she likes things to fall apart just a little bit when she's gone.


GravatarI rarely get beavers in my yard here in the Beaver State.


GravatarYou're a wise lad, Gromit.


GravatarMy brother gets bears in his backyard. No joke.


GravatarNote to auggieasshole:

SHOUTING your bullshit will NOT make it come true.

Hate to burst your little bubble.


GravatarOkay, off for my 75 minute walk in sweltering heat.

Thank you to Hillary Clinton, and kudos for a very moving and intelligent speech. May many great things come to you as you live a long, prosperous, abundant, and healthy life. You, Senator Clinton, ROCK.


GravatarI still have three weeks to clean the house.

/makes sure Zapette's not lurking


GravatarI rarely get beavers in my yard here in the Beaver State.
plantsman




There's a joke in there, but I'll let it alone.


GravatarA woman who votes for McCain does not care much for women, imo.

Anyone who votes for McCain is a fucking idiot.
The Old Man From Scene 24


Hear, hear!


Gravatar"Warning! Assholes in mirror are closer than they appear!" --Acc Ventura
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere



Warning: Some ideologies on the Net are smaller than they appear.

Seth Finkelstein (referring to Libertarianism)


Applicable to the alleged rift in the Democratic Party over this. Mostly being driven by the GOP and racists who would never have voted for Obama but will probably vote for Bob Barr anyway.


GravatarWell, there's also a reason, as we both know.


Gravatari have never seen a badger in the badger state. I'm still looking.


GravatarMy brother gets bears in his backyard. No joke.
Richard


I had a moose swim by my house two summers ago. And I have a picture to prove it.

http://vtwayback.blogspot.com/20...se-swam- by.html


GravatarThe darling little feral kitties have taken down a pidgeon and left its dead carcase in my front garden bed.  How thoughtful.


GravatarFormer Dem | 06.07.08 - 3:40 pm |



Must be a pretty purple sky in that Bizarro World of yours.


The desperation, it burns!


GravatarHave ants found the pigeon yet?


Gravatar(º)(º)


Gravatarboobie-palooza!


GravatarI need a nap......later.


Gravatarjust put up first coat of yellow paint the 3 year old picked out for his room.

He now says he likes it, but wants purple.

I love him, I really do.


GravatarIf you think dem's won't cross over to vote for McCain, you are gravely mistaken, at least in Pa.
Bugs | 06.07.08 - 3:38 pm | #


see, now that's the kind of on-topic message your Quality Control officer expects. keep this kind of work up and you just may win the Employee of the Month award for June. and not just any old McCain employee can win such a shiny award, bugs.

now fuck off, racist pig.


GravatarOkay, really gotta get.

Have a nice afternoon.

This whole Democratic Primary this year has been very, very interesting.

I am glad that Hillary took it to every state. I think she helped the cause tremendously by doing that. And I'm glad she kept it so close...she deserves more goodness than I know how to express.


GravatarThe darling little feral kitties have taken down a pidgeon and left its dead carcase in my front garden bed. How thoughtful. GWPDA

That means that they really like you. This calls for a bowl of tuna and cream.


GravatarOkay folks. later on. Have a good one.


Gravatarhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/ pa...e_b_104874.html

There will be many people in the next four years that will wish that they had voted for Senator Clinton - She will ride out the storm of 'hate Hillary' lemmings and be a better person/Senator then before -

Hillary 2012


GravatarThe darling little feral kitties have taken down a pidgeon and left its dead carcase in my front garden bed. How thoughtful.
GWPDA


It means they love and appreciate you.


GravatarMy brother gets bears in his backyard. No joke.
Richard


Bears!!


GravatarTrifecta ~

Just a thought: keep painting, but tell him you'll do the trim in purple. Good time to teach him about compromise.


GravatarYellow and purple are complementary, y' know -- this kid has an eye.


GravatarBugs still lying, trying to convince people he's a Democrat.

How pathetic.


GravatarHurry, hurry November

This type of crap has got to stop.

http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/.../ copyright.html


GravatarWhat's up with that terrorist haircut Chris Mathews has been sporting?

Clearly he's emulating the fashion-style of Al Qaeda's #2 man, just like Germans used to copy the Hitler mustache.


GravatarLet's sort out 2012 when we get to it.


GravatarBears!!

Yup, he lives in Chicago.


Gravatarnow fuck off, racist pig.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
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Koos, Mos zibby!


GravatarEven Pat Buchanan, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity- they're all in on the terrorist haircut, apparently.


Gravatar"My brother gets bears in his backyard. No joke."

So ah, what does he do? Call the local pest control folks out and have them spray a bit around the house and yard?


GravatarBugs still lying, trying to convince people he's a Democrat. How pathetic. Terry

Probably the best compromise that someone who hates losing and hates Democrats can manage.


GravatarI saw John McCain wearing the same Hezbollah-style of suit-and-tie Arafat often used to appear in.


Gravatara friend of mine is a bear 'control' 'officer' in a small town, region actually.

and nope. he doesn't use tranquilizer bullets.

sad actually.


GravatarI think Mrs. Trifecta has turned him.

She is an LSU alum. Purple and gold.


GravatarAt one point, Keith directly misrepresented what she said, asking whether she should have done something more than "hoping and praying" that her supporters would support Obama--something like asking them to fight for their own goals by supporting him. She actually did that too.
JT


He just can't let go of it, can he?


Gravatar
So ah, what does he do? Call the local pest control folks out and have them spray a bit around the house and yard?


He lives 20 miles out of town, so he really has to deal with it himself. Fortunately, it's not the frequent an occurrence.

He once was shoveling snow off of his roof when a bear came up to the house. Snowballs were effective in shooing it away.


GravatarIf you think dem's won't cross over to vote for McCain, you are gravely mistaken, at least in Pa.
Bugs


Attrition and defection occur in every election campaign. It just won't be enough to matter. If you are think this regular phenomenon will deny Obama a victory in November you are gravely mistaken and will be sorely disappointed.


GravatarHa! Doofus on MSNBC says polling will switch back to favoring McCain. Ha!


GravatarIf you think dem's won't




Dem's what?


GravatarKeith is dating a 23 year old. As I have noted repeatedly, men his age dating women that young tend to have gender issues.


GravatarWelcome to my world:

http://www.nbaforums.net/showthr...492& mode=linear


GravatarHe just can't let go of it, can he?
Terry


I wonder how he'll fill his show now that he won't have Hillary to bash anymore. I'll find out from the folks here, though, cause I sure as shit will not turn him on.


GravatarPolling will not be a high point in the shows.


GravatarJust a thought: keep painting, but tell him you'll do the trim in purple. Good time to teach him about compromise.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |


That sounds kinda cool, actually.


GravatarHe just can't let go of it, can he?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


I hope he'll review the speech and issue a retraction for the sake of his own credibility if nothing else.


GravatarKeith is dating a 23 year old. As I have noted repeatedly, men his age dating women that young tend to have gender issues.
trifecta


Apparently.


GravatarGromit: Do you have high humidity today? Here in WMass it's a dry heat but tomorrow is supposed to be like a turkish steam bath.

Your mom sounds like my folks--live within your means typical thrifty New Englander's. Their priority was to educate 5 daughters.

Did you go to Mt. Mansfield for the pickinick? God, do Iove Vermont.

Sally: Good thoughts go your way today and to your family. Sounds like things are going in the right direction one day at a time.


GravatarQuotes

"I'm overwhelmed with a sense of joy."
-- Jesse Jackson, on Obama winning the Dem nod Link


I'm confused, but that's happened a lot lately.

You could say this race turned on one thing, and that one thing was
Obama's utter disgust at being compared to Jesse Jackson back in Carolina.

How can Jesse be overwhelmed with joy that the man who was
disgusted and insulted at being compared to him has won?


GravatarWe had a bear in our backyard last week, just off our screened porch actually, eating sunflower seeds out of the bird feeder. We called and asked the police if we needed to call animal control, they said "Sure we'll send 'em out, but really just let him finish up, and he'll move on." Later in the week, some 83 year old guy shot one outside his garage
I have to say, with a 6 year old running around outside, the thought of an old guy wandering around with a gun is scarier than a bear!


GravatarI hope he'll review the speech and issue a retraction for the sake of his own credibility if nothing else.
JT



He'll spin himself dizzy trying to make her look bad.


Gravatari thought karl rove's nickname was turdblossom, not bugs

.


GravatarComment by Bugs blocked.



Fuck off, you racist asshole.


GravatarObama is not,
one of his senior advisers assured me Tuesday night, going to spend a lot of time
in the next few months wooing Clinton supporters whose feelings may be hurting.


Hmm, is thumbing his nose at the (slight) majority of Democrats a good idea?

Hey Barack, you're the "reach across the aisle," guy, remember?


GravatarI am a big Franken fan all the way around but a great side benefit is that maroon Howard Fineman considers himself to be a friend of Al and therefore won't comment on the campaign A Fineman free campaign something we can all get behind


GravatarMy brother gets bears in his backyard. No joke.
Richard


Atriot Stormysu does, as well.


GravatarDa bears


GravatarNow the PC left wing police want to lynch MSNBC gossip columnist Courtney Hazlett for calling Spike Lee an 'uppity negro' in jest re his feud with Clint Eastwood. The left has gone so far overboard, it's laughable. Whats next, arrested for chewing gum?


GravatarWillendorf: What is so strange is i am in the middle of a high traffic suburb! Yet, we have foxes, coyotes, deer, turkey and now bears!


GravatarComplete Hillary speech starting now on MSNBC.


GravatarRepublican Party Discovers That Abraham Lincoln's Speech Continues After Statement That "You Can Fool All Of The People Some Of The Time, And Some Of The People All Of The Time"

hope to issue interpretation of statement that "you can't fool all of the people all of the time" soon... developing...

Karl Rove Reported "Shocked" By Startling Revelation

.


Gravatarheh su told about her own damn bear.


GravatarWow. I just got the Regent University ad.


Gravatar"It just won't be enough to matter."

In looking at the number of votes between Dems and Repubs, the Dems almost always seemed to be double that of the Repubs during the primaries.

Unless you can honestly believe 50% of that were cross overs voters from the Repubs screwing with the Dems, McCain has not got a sliver of a chance.

And if it really was the Repubs screwing around in those numbers, I see a new civil war coming. (Tinfoil hat mode)


GravatarVicki: Which idiot on MSNBC said that about the polls? Alexis Wittless or Contessa?


GravatarWhats next, arrested for chewing gum?
jack



I wouldn't worry about that, racist.

You can't walk and chew gum at the same time anyway.


GravatarWillendorf: What is so strange is i am in the middle of a high traffic suburb! Yet, we have foxes, coyotes, deer, turkey and now bears!
Stormysu


They are saying to each other, "Guess what! Humans are building houses and roads in my backyard! Can you believe it?"


GravatarThis is not meant as snark.

Auggiesback put out some silliness about how all sensible people should vote for McCain. I asked him, what precisely he liked about the state of affairs today. If he thought the country was in good shape, if his finances were doing well, if he thought Iraq was going swimmingly, then by all means he should vote for McCain. I then asked him, if he thought any of that, was he delusional?

I did not receive an answer.

I have some friends who are very worried about Israel's security, and who are considering voting for McCain because of that. (A close friend tells me it depends on McCain's VP, and if that's Jindal, he's gonna go for Obama.) I understand this point of view but I do not share it.

If McCain is as "good" for Israel as Bush has been, God help Israel if McCain is elected.


GravatarWhat can I say? Franken lost me when he said, on Air America, that he "was a good DLC Democrat."

Given that, he's only marginally better than his `pug opponent.

Sorry, Al. You fucked up.


GravatarOh my, I just saw a Regents University ad on this page. What are they thinking? Or does google place these ads indiscriminately?


GravatarA close friend tells me it depends on McCain's VP, and if that's Jindal, he's gonna go for Obama.


Jindal?

I doubt that.

THE BASE would never stand for that.


GravatarSomebody more clever than I wrote into the NYT a few days ago: Rove has proved the partial converse to Lincoln:

You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.

(I'd add: especially if the press is helping you out.)


GravatarHa! Doofus on MSNBC says polling will switch back to favoring McCain. Ha!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Nice spin.

Obama's post nomination bump will recede but that's not the same as more people favoring McCain.


GravatarOh my, I just saw a Regents University ad on this page. What are they thinking? Or does google place these ads indiscriminately?
mer


On some websites on the left they have ads for Coultergeist. Weird.


Gravatar
I have some friends who are very worried about Israel's security, and who are considering voting for McCain because of that.


300 nukes are enough to insure their own security.

It's about time that the US stops being Israel's bitch.

Fuck AIPAC.


GravatarThings are getting weird here. I look out the windows in the back of my house , clouds are moving right to left, looking out the front windows, they are also moving right to left. don't like this, bye for now.


GravatarMcCain wants to blow up the fucking world.

How is HE safe for ANY nation?


GravatarWhat can I say? Franken lost me when he said, on Air America, that he "was a good DLC Democrat."

Given that, he's only marginally better than his `pug opponent.

Sorry, Al. You fucked up.
montag


Do you live in Minnesota?


GravatarIt's about time that the US stops being Israel's bitch.

Fuck AIPAC.
Richard


Amen - let them fight their own battles.


GravatarI have some friends who are very worried about Israel's security, and who are considering voting for McCain because of that.


I suggest that your friends enlist in the IDF, immediately, then.


GravatarDo you live in Minnesota?

When we're talking about the national balance in the Senate, and about someone who's not really a progressive, do I need to be from Minnesota to have an opinion?


GravatarI have some friends who are very worried about Israel's security,



I care more about this country, as should they.


GravatarI think the Israelis have too much control over our media. Somebody is shaping public opinion in the US for them. It's a small group of Americans who stick up for Israel. But, that group controls all of our media and all three levels of government.


GravatarI think the Israelis have too much control over our media. Somebody is shaping public opinion in the US for them. It's a small group of Americans who stick up for Israel. But, that group controls all of our media and all three levels of government.


GravatarThings are getting weird here. I look out the windows in the back of my house , clouds are moving right to left, looking out the front windows, they are also moving right to left. don't like this, bye for now.
Ralphie


This is bad! Everything should be moving to the right!


GravatarObama is not, one of his senior advisers assured me Tuesday night, going to spend a lot of time in the next few months wooing Clinton supporters whose feelings may be hurting.

The number of genuine Democrats who will need to be "wooed" out of voting for John McCain by November is vanishingly small. The number of very concerned pseudo Dems, not so much.


GravatarOh, look! It's the anti-Semites that everyone denies exist on the Left.


GravatarLester | 06.07.08 - 4:17 pm



Sounds just as dumb the second time as the first.


GravatarThink about it... Iran has invaded not one neighbor and fought but one war: an eight-year war with Iraq where she was the victim of aggression. And in that war of aggression against Iran, we supported the aggressor.


GravatarI have seen badgers in the Badger State, and gophers in the Gopher State (for which, IMHO, a better sobriquet might be the Mosquito State).

But I have yet to find any gold here in the Golden State. I hear that some of my neighbors used to grow it in their back yards, but that was back in the 80's ....


GravatarThe number of very concerned pseudo Dems, not so much.
stuck in 200s


The same type of know nothings that used to be known as "Reagan Democrats."


Gravatarmontag,

I was under the impression we were talking about something else. My only point is Franken is better than any Republican in the race even if he might not be the best Democrat in the race, but it is a matter for Minnesotans to decide for themselves.


GravatarLester, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They fight wars by proxy. Please pay attention.


GravatarLester, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They fight wars by proxy. Please pay attention.
Toby Petzold |
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So, do we!


Gravatarmccain is different than previous GOP candidates in that he is running on the platform that he knows the GOP has been pushing fucked up policies, and he promises to tinker with them and make them somewhat more rational.

in engineering terms, mccain promises klooges, and the democratic party promises a radical redesign

.


GravatarWelcome to my world:

http://www.nbaforums.net/showthr...492& mode=linear
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 4:00 pm | #


good one, Bugs.

now Fuck Off, Racist Pig


GravatarPlease pay attention.




Coming from you that's pretty funny.


Gravatar
What can I say? Franken lost me when he said, on Air America, that he "was a good DLC Democrat."

Given that, he's only marginally better than his `pug opponent.

Sorry, Al. You fucked up.
montag | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 4:09 pm | #


That's silly and, since the only sources I can find for the quote are two DU threads, it's also likely horseshit.

Although there is this from when Franken was on that panel with Molly Ivins and Bill O'Reilly that got some play back in the day:

After fellow panelist Molly Ivins disabused O'Reilly's claims that she was a "liberal," Franken declared, "Unlike Molly, I am a liberal," adding curiously "I'm a DLC Democrat." Curious, because anyone who knows the centrist, pro-business Democratic Leadership Council knows that it has nothing to do with being "liberal" (in the generally accepted definition of that word; if Franken were to say he was a neoliberal, his identification with the DLC would make perfect sense).

I would guess he either misspoke or was making a joke.


Gravatar"clouds are moving right to left, looking out the front windows, they are also moving right to left"

Last time I saw something similar, we had a tornado hit a block away. The streaming clouds at ground level in the alley were a nice touch.


GravatarI was taken to task on another blog for pointing out that A.I.P.A.C. has been dictating US middle east policy for decades and I would be much more likely to support someone who didn't kowtow to them. This commentor started off by calling me anti semetic and then he started throwing around pejoritives and stereotypes and suggesting that was what I was thinking. The stupidity of that comment aside, I should point out that anti A.I.P.A.C. and anti Israel don't equal anti semetic. That would be like saying that I'm racist because I don't get along with one African American at work, disregarding the dozen or so who I do get along with and consider my friends.


Gravatargood one, Bugs.

now Fuck Off, Racist Pig
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari



Racist, sexist, anti-Semitic.

Bugs is an equal opportunity hater.


GravatarAny lawyers about? Is an online divorce a good idea?


GravatarOh, look! It's the anti-Semites that everyone denies exist on the Left.
Toby Petzold


I wonder if any of them are Jewish?

It is one thing to be of the opinion that American foreign policy ought to be determined on the basis of what is in America's best intertests. It is quite another matter to be anti-semitic, but you knew that.


GravatarDoes anyone find it remotely interesting that the big runup in oil prices yesterday was due to a Morgan Stanley analyst’s prediction that oil would be $150 in a month? Can you say “market manipulation”? I knew you could.

The other day, S&P downgraded Morgan Stanley because of their exposure in mortgage backed securities. From a market manipulation standpoint, could Morgan Stanley have issued their “prediction” in order to drive up the value of their holdings in the petroleum commodity market, as a way to offset the downgrade due to their exposure in mortgage backed securities? Hmm? Just askin’.

This certainly smells like market manipulation to a novice such as myself, but then, I’m not a securities lawyer. However, it might be prudent for the SEC and Department of Justice to look into it.

More here for those of you trapped indoors today like me.


GravatarMargaret :


Some people just can't (or won't) understand that criticizing Israel is NOT synonymous with anti-Semitism.


Gravatar"find any gold here in the Golden State."

Same thing for the Lonestar state. When we can see them, there are a bunch of them.


GravatarLester, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They fight wars by proxy. Please pay attention.
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And the United States doesn't? Isn't history required in high school anymore?


GravatarAnd in that war of aggression against Iran, we supported the aggressor.

and Iran got us back but good, no? their intelligence agencies played the neocons for the suckers they are.


GravatarOh, look! It's the anti-Semites that everyone denies exist on the Left.




Gotta love when a right wing asshole comes onto this blog and accuses US of anti-Semitism, etc.

Especially a hater like Dog Burner.


GravatarLester, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They fight wars by proxy. Please pay attention.
Toby Petzold


listen, dumbass, the real world is not a fucking video game. difficult problems cannot usually be fixed by bombing people. foreign policy goals are achieved effectively by name calling ("axis of evil")

unless and until you master the subtleties of effective international policy, i would suggest that you stop embarassing yourself, and learn the simple and effective art of keeping your trap shut

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GravatarBugs is an equal opportunity hater.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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And you love everyone. Yeah right!


GravatarAnd the United States doesn't? Isn't history required in high school anymore?
Margaret


Our troolz are home skooled.


GravatarAnd the United States doesn't? Isn't history required in high school anymore?
Margaret

No. SEE NCLB,


Gravatarlisten, dumbass, the real world is not a fucking video game. difficult problems cannot usually be fixed by bombing people. foreign policy goals are achieved effectively by name calling ("axis of evil")



That's not what Rush says!


Gravatarforeign policy goals are achieved

not achieved, obviously

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GravatarMy only point is Franken is better than any Republican in the race even if he might not be the best Democrat in the race, but it is a matter for Minnesotans to decide for themselves.

Sure, that's the way the system works--you guys decide. Telling me I can't express an opinion because I'm not from Minnesota is not the way the system works.


If that's the way you think the system works, almost anyone is to your liking....


GravatarOur troolz are home skooled
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Apparently so.....


GravatarI lost my temper when some McSame supporter said oil prices went up because Obama got the nomination and the dollar will be stronger once McCain wins.

Did I ever mention that when I get angry I can make Lewis Black look like he is doing an imitation of Perry Como?


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Does anyone find it remotely interesting that the big runup in oil prices yesterday was due to a Morgan Stanley analyst’s prediction that oil would be $150 in a month? Can you say “market manipulation”? I knew you could.


There have been at least 4 instances over the last several weeks where some representative from an investment bank or hedge fund has come out to make such a prediction. Each time, the price of oil jumped by several dollars. Yet, we're supposed to believe that supply and demand are what are driving the markets.

The fucks are trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.


Gravatar"... However, it might be prudent for the SEC and Department of Justice to look into it."
--Richard Cranium, LS/MFT

With Cheney and Bush in office, probably won't happen until 09, if at all.


GravatarI get a kick out of people who start screaming about bombing people whenever there is a perceived slight to the United States. Most of these people would beg for their lives and kiss any ass and do anything to save their own miserable skins if they were being shot at.


GravatarAnd the United States doesn't? Isn't history required in high school anymore?
Margaret

Yale gave Bush passing grades in history. Harvard gave Bush an MBA. It doesn't speak well of the nation's two most prestigious schools.


GravatarI lost my temper when some McSame supporter said oil prices went up because Obama got the nomination and the dollar will be stronger once McCain wins.



Mc Cain supporters......the few, the proud and the stoopid!


GravatarMost of these people would beg for their lives and kiss any ass and do anything to save their own miserable skins if they were being shot at.

we call these people Petzolds


GravatarThe fucks are trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Richard

There are ways to stop this but there has to be a WILL to do so. Our WILL seems to have been bought off. . .

(Honestly, the easiest solution is one that I read this morning: make a rule that states that anyone bidding on oil futures MUST show that they have the ability and the equipment necessary to take delivery of the oil they are bidding upon.

Solves the problem all at once: no muss, no fuss.


GravatarDoes anyone find it remotely interesting that the big runup in oil prices yesterday was due to a Morgan Stanley analyst’s prediction that oil would be $150 in a month? Can you say “market manipulation”? I knew you could
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It was also the irresponsible comment from that Israeli official and the establishment media playing it up like he was more important than just the fucking transportation minister!


GravatarEven in the 50's Eisenhower would never state this publicly for a number of reasons, but it does give you an idea of how far afield we have come from foreign policy based on American interests. A personal letter to Edward Everett Hazlett, Jr. on the eve of the '56 election and after the Suez War had begun.

The real point is that Britain, France and Israel had come to believe--probably correctly--that Nasser was their worst enemy in the Mid East and that until he was removed or deflated, they would have no peace. I do not quarrel with the idea that there is justification for such fears, but I have insisted long and earnestly that you cannot resort to force in international relationships because of your fear of what might happen in the future. In short, I think the British and French seized upon a very poor vehicle to use in bringing Nasser to terms.

Of course, nothing in the region would be so difficult to solve except for the underlying cause of the unrest and dissension that exists there--that is, the Arab-Israel quarrel. This quarrel seems to have no limit in either intensity or in scope. Everybody in the Moslem and Jewish worlds is affected by it. It is so intense that the second any action is taken against one Arab state, by an outsider, all the other Arab and Moslem states seem to regard it as a Jewish plot and react violently. All this complicates the situation enormously.

As we began to uncover evidence that something was building up in Israel, we demanded pledges from Ben-Gurion that he would keep the peace. We realized that he might think he could take advantage of this country because of the approaching election and because of the importance that so many politicians in the past have attached to our Jewish vote. I gave strict orders to the State Department that they should inform Israel that we would handle our affairs exactly as though we didn't have a Jew in America. The welfare and best interests of our own country were to be the sole criteria on which we operated.

I think that France and Britain have made a terrible mistake. Because they had such a poor case, they have isolated themselves from the good opinion of the world and it will take them many years to recover. France was perfectly cold-blooded about the matter. She has a war on her hands in Algeria, and she was anxious to get someone else fighting the Arabs on her Eastern flank so she was ready to do anything to get England and Israel in that affair. But I think the other two countries have hurt themselves immeasurably and this is something of a sad blow because, quite naturally, Britain not only has been, but must be, our best friend in the world.


http://www.eisenhowermemorial.or...uments/ 2063.cfm


GravatarI get a kick out of people who start screaming about bombing people whenever there is a perceived slight to the United States. Most of these people would beg for their lives and kiss any ass and do anything to save their own miserable skins if they were being shot at.
Margaret


And the ones who scream the loudest are the ones who wouldn't dream of enlisting.

War is wonderful so long as someone else is doing the dying.


Gravatarlike he was more important than just the fucking transportation minister!

Shaul Mofaz, besides being a war criminal, is a key member of Ohlmert's government, shoring up his right flank.


GravatarMost of these people would beg for their lives and kiss any ass and do anything to save their own miserable skins if they were being shot at.

we call these people Petzolds
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari



puds, Lubyankas, auggies................


GravatarThat's silly and, since the only sources I can find for the quote are two DU threads, it's also likely horseshit.


Sorry, I can't provide you with the link. I heard it online live....

If you look through the Air America archives, you'll probably find it. I'm not going to do it for you, because, well, you're not worth the effort.


GravatarI get a kick out of people who start screaming about bombing people whenever there is a perceived slight to the United States.
They destroy our buildings and kill civilians and we call it terrorism. We destroy buildings and kill civilians that had nothing to do with 9/11 and we call it Operation Iraqi Freedom.


GravatarI used to carry recruiter cards from every branch of the service to hand out to Bush cheerleaders of service age. Gave out a lot of them but to the best of my knowledge, no one ever accepted the challenge and joined.


GravatarTerry C, Obama/Clinton 08

Did you miss the discussion on one of the networks where they had a group of experts (Experts texperts, don't you think the joker laughs at you?) comparing the VietNam war to the Iraq War?

THEY completely missed the fact that the news media is NOT covering the Iraq War or bringing the death and destruction of American Servicemen and women into our homes or the heinous crimes that are being committed by the Blackwater Thugs and others. . .


IF they would do their jobs, NONE of this would have happened.


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I lost my temper when some McSame supporter said oil prices went up because Obama got the nomination and the dollar will be stronger once McCain wins.


A McCain win will insure $200 a barrel oil. His economic advisor, Phil Gramm, was responsible for the deregulation that's now killing us.

Enron style market manipulation will continue until the country's economy is run into the ground.


GravatarThey destroy our buildings and kill civilians and we call it terrorism. We destroy buildings and kill civilians that had nothing to do with 9/11 and we call it Operation Iraqi Freedom.
George Johnston


That's the Uber-patriot mindset in a nutshell.


GravatarDoes anyone find it remotely interesting that the big runup in oil prices yesterday was due to a Morgan Stanley analyst’s prediction that oil would be $150 in a month?
With Bush destroying the dollar with deficit financing of handouts to Cheney's and his Dad's companies I will not be surprised to see oil at $250 before the end of summer.


GravatarI used to carry recruiter cards from every branch of the service to hand out to Bush cheerleaders of service age. Gave out a lot of them but to the best of my knowledge, no one ever accepted the challenge and joined.
Margaret


Girl, I like your style.


GravatarWe can elect McCain and pour gasoline on the fire that Bush started or we can elect Obama and pour foam on it. That simple.


GravatarIF they would do their jobs, NONE of this would have happened.
DWD - S☮S


The right wing Repukes who own all the media outlets wouldn't LIKE that.


GravatarThe oil price reaction to some minor saber rattling on the Israelis part is just a taste of what will happen if McBombBombBombIran is god forbid elected.


GravatarSure, that's the way the system works--you guys decide. Telling me I can't express an opinion because I'm not from Minnesota is not the way the system works.

Montag


I don't recall telling you you couldn't express an opinion. I just asked if you lived in Minnesota. If you want to vote in Minnesota you have to move to Minnesota. I wish Al Franken clones could be elected in every red state or even the moderate blue states. I have to tell you, even in California, he may be too far to the left. Not for me, but for some of the other 47 million people I live with.


GravatarI get a kick out of people who start screaming about bombing people whenever there is a perceived slight to the United States.



Genocide doesn't make me proud to be an America.

If any troll doesn't like that, too fucking bad.


GravatarI'm willing to bet that when Obama is elected, suddenly the David Broders and the Timmehs of the village will find jay walking an impeachable offense.....


Gravatarfair and balanced sheets


GravatarWell I like Al Fr5anken but I'm not moving to Minnesota. Too cold for me!


GravatarI don't recall telling you you couldn't express an opinion. I just asked if you lived in Minnesota.


Ah, literalism after implication. I'm not impressed. Fine, you wave the flag for Al. I'll take a pass on that.


GravatarTerry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 4:40 pm
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Hear! Hear!


Gravatar,Sorry, I can't provide you with the link. I heard it online live....

If you look through the Air America archives, you'll probably find it. I'm not going to do it for you, because, well, you're not worth the effort.
montag | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 4:34 pm | #


You won't because you can't

I gave you the source, it's a quote from the infamous 2003 Loss Angeles Book Expo

And he didn't say he was a "good DLC Democrat" what he said was, in context:

After fellow panelist Molly Ivins disabused O'Reilly's claims that she was a "liberal," Franken declared, "Unlike Molly, I am a liberal," adding curiously "I'm a DLC Democrat."

You should try reading.


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(Honestly, the easiest solution is one that I read this morning: make a rule that states that anyone bidding on oil futures MUST show that they have the ability and the equipment necessary to take delivery of the oil they are bidding upon.


If it really is supply and demand there would be no harm in doing this.

I posted excerpts yesterday from a few articles and news stories I dug up.

It really seems that Bushco is largely to blame for what's going on. ...



Hedge funds and big Wall Street banks are taking advantage of loopholes in federal trading limits to buy massive amounts of oil contracts, according to a growing number of lawmakers and prominent investors, who blame the practice for helping to push oil prices to record highs.

The federal agency that oversees oil trading, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, has exempted these firms from rules that limit speculative buying, a prerogative traditionally reserved for airlines and trucking companies that need to lock in future fuel costs.

The CFTC has also waived regulations over the past decade on U.S. investors who trade commodities on some overseas markets, freeing those investors to accumulate large quantities of the future oil supply by making purchases on lightly regulated foreign exchanges.


The CFTC has been rendered toothless by Bush, it's underfunded and understaffed and kisses the asses of the folks it's supposed to be policing.


GravatarGoogle search of"'dlc democrat' franken"


GravatarNorm Coleman's pants peeing knows no bounds


GravatarYou should try reading.

You're repeating yourself. So, I'll repeat myself: Eat shit and die.

Vote for him, love him, fuck him if you want to at the first opportunity, but, don't expect me to share your enthusiasm, and don't fuckin' tell me what I did or didn't hear.


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