Much more of the continent is set to become prime wine-growing country, if FeralL has anything to say
about it.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 1:36 pm | #
i predict a return to the basics; ripple, thunderbird, mad dog.
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:37 pm | #
Wine is one of those things that mirrors disposable income. Fewer people have it.
You see many fewer power boats on the water this summer...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:37 pm | #
But I thought we were a nation of winers?
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 1:37 pm | #
too much ethanol in wine these days.
I want 100% wine.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 1:38 pm | #
I like ethanol in my vodka.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 1:38 pm | #
dead threaded:
steve: the pop culture has legitimized torture and civil rights abuse, from 'Dirty Harry' to Tom Clancy to '24', as the necessary, and effective, recourse professionals take when they have to save the world, despite the best efforts of pusillanimous, hypocritical meddlers who get in their way. Not so, of course, in real life, any more than one can reliably shoot someone's firearm out of his hand without wounding him, as countless Westerns portrayed...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:38 pm | #
Try paying for milk! $$$$
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:38 pm | #
I have a ton of shit to do. Catch you patriotz laterz.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 1:39 pm | #
Bird, bird, bird is the word.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 1:39 pm | #
I do have to go out and obtain more Natty Ice, today... amongst other thangs.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:39 pm | #
The problem with America is too much too much whine.
Phil Gramm (R - UBS) |
07.26.08 - 1:39 pm | #
What's weirder is the spike in beer that has a mirror drop in booze right around 9/11. Me and my fellow drinkers were really hitting the hard stuff right 'round then.
Perhaps it was all of 'Murica having a beer with their G-dub blow-up doll for comfort.
fygar |
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07.26.08 - 1:39 pm | #
It was the reference to "Frass Canyon Vineyards".
People started realizing their wine contains insect shit.
red@cted |
07.26.08 - 1:40 pm | #
bush can't point to any accomplishments, so he points to an imaginary consensus 50 years in the future that he was a great president.
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:40 pm | #
It's all Bush has.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 1:41 pm | #
I HATED Sideways. Gawd, what an awful flick.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:41 pm | #
"I'm sipping a vintage bottle of McCain semen"-Jonathan Chait
jr |
07.26.08 - 1:41 pm | #
plantsman: the legend in his own mind.
There isn't enough substance in Bush even to make a decent tragedy.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:42 pm | #
That was such a stupid movie.
America needs a movie set in a Wafflehouse.
that would be good for everyone.
mdh |
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07.26.08 - 1:43 pm | #
I liked Sandra Oh in Sideways. First stoner hippie Asian woman I'd ever seen on screen.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 1:43 pm | #
bush can't point to any accomplishments, so he points to an imaginary consensus 50 years in the future that he was a great president.
pretzelattack | 07.26.08 - 1:40 pm | #
The right is pushing the "Bush Is a Great As Yet Misunderstood Pres" narrative as we speak.
The centerpiece: Iraq is a huge success.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 1:43 pm | #
The problem with America is too much too much whine.
Phil Gramm
Well, McCain IS shopping for the cheese.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 1:45 pm | #
Reminder, winers: an all-request Paxcast tonight.
A challenge. Holy crap-on-a-cracker. I'm doing 312kazillionmillion things and you want a new thing. Jeeeeesh.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:45 pm | #
some of the same people that predicted we would be out of iraq in 6 months now confidently predict the judgement of historians 50 years in the future.
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:46 pm | #
There isn't enough substance in Bush even to make a decent tragedy.
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 1:42 pm | #
Indeed.
Best you could hope for is a Kubrickian black comedy.
But I'm not sure any artist is up to the challenge of depicting this calamitous group of morons, crazies and crooks. They're unprecedented in American history...
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 1:46 pm | #
I do still have Curly.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:47 pm | #
Did it occur to McCain to be honest that Obama went over there as part of a Congressional delegation as well or has he completely given up on the thought of an appearance of honesty?
First question: no
Second question: yes
These have been two simple answers to questions.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:47 pm | #
In Sideways, there was a scene when Paul Giamatti was stealing cash from his Mom's dresser, and the camera panned over a couple of framed family photos. One of the photos was Paul Giamatti and his actual (deceased) father, former Yale pres & MLB commish, A. Bartlett Giamatti.
Phil Gramm (R - UBS) |
07.26.08 - 1:49 pm | #
steve: the pop culture has legitimized torture and civil rights abuse, from 'Dirty Harry' to Tom Clancy to '24', as the necessary, and effective, recourse professionals take when they have to save the world, despite the best efforts of pusillanimous, hypocritical meddlers who get in their way. Not so, of course, in real life, any more than one can reliably shoot someone's firearm out of his hand without wounding him, as countless Westerns portrayed...
The Hollywoodization of fracking EVERYTHING has been ongoing for some time.
New recruits at boot camp expect the sounds of weapons fire to be thunderous, even when it's issued from an M16. When, in fact, it's like firecrackers. Nothing like the souped up sound that the foley artists give weapons fire in the metal-penis fantasies they churn out.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:50 pm | #
She's got some... it's rained the last two nights here in our area.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:51 pm | #
I'd like to see foreign/domestic wines treated separately.
Also, burgundy has been pricing itself out of the market for years, no matter what you're paying with.
The dollar's so weak, I gave up on all imports (wine and liquor) a long time ago. I also try to be a locobibor, which is easy due to all the wonderful beers made in Texas these days.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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07.26.08 - 1:51 pm | #
former Yale pres & MLB commish, A. Bartlett Giamatti.
The last decent MLB commish.
Selig is a fucking joke...the stand in for the asstard owners who for years were utterly fucking determined to kill a goose that lays golden eggs.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:51 pm | #
Wine is one of those things that mirrors disposable income. Fewer people have it.
Less expensive than milk out here, Prof. $4.99, TJ's French champagne.... $3.99 sauvignon blanc, $5.99 Cristalino Cava Brut....
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
07.26.08 - 1:52 pm | #
A challenge. Holy crap-on-a-cracker. I'm doing 312kazillionmillion things and you want a new thing. Jeeeeesh.
I know, I'm a demanding motherfucker.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 1:52 pm | #
From below:
Roma Deaths Ignored [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
This is a disturbing story from Italy. Civilized people just don't ignore death and destruction before our eyes.
K-Lo is a 'puke. What would she know about being civilized?
Besides, I thought the 'pukes got off on death and destruction.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 1:52 pm | #
the price of pot doesn't seem to be rising. i suspect this means most pot these days is grown here at home. yay america!
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:53 pm | #
iirc, Schweitzer declared himself not gonna do it, the VP.
He'd be great, though. I'd still like to see Sibelius, Granholm, or Edwards.
helena handbasket |
07.26.08 - 1:53 pm | #
Who knew Obama was in Italy?
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 1:53 pm | #
yeah, milk and cheese have really been going up here. but hey, by september, gas might only average 3.75!
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:54 pm | #
former Yale pres & MLB commish, A. Bartlett Giamatti.
The last decent MLB commish.
A true fan and lover of the game.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 1:54 pm | #
iirc, Schweitzer declared himself not gonna do it, the VP.
He'd be great, though. I'd still like to see Sibelius, Granholm, or Edwards.
helena handbasket
Sadly, Granholm isn't eligible, having been born in Canada.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 1:54 pm | #
The Roma? Uncle Adolf was right.
Toby Petzold |
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07.26.08 - 1:55 pm | #
Buckeye: I'm totally carless, I don't even have a licence. Does that count as 'doing something?'
I, too, am without automobile.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:35 pm | #
No scooter, either.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.26.08 - 1:55 pm | #
east coast/west coast thing. much less cheap wine out here due to transport costs.
Atrios |
07.26.08 - 1:55 pm | #
I know, I'm a demanding motherfucker.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:52 pm |
Can I request "I Don't Care About You' by Fear?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.26.08 - 1:56 pm | #
Buckeye: I'm totally carless, I don't even have a licence. Does that count as 'doing something?'
I, too, am without automobile.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:35 pm | #
No scooter, either.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 07.26.08 - 1:55 pm | #
Well, I did say one NEW thing. "New" can certainly be amorphous, but the point is to step up a notch...
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 1:56 pm | #
Buckeye: No scooter, either.
I have two o' them. But I do live in the next-to-least-walkable metro in the U.S., with shitty bus service, to boot.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:56 pm | #
I'd like Theo to send Manny out to whine country.
Phil Gramm (R - UBS) |
07.26.08 - 1:57 pm | #
Can I request "I Don't Care About You' by Fear?
It's all-request! Just post over at the blog so I have one spot--last time it was a little tough to keep track.
east coast/west coast thing. much less cheap wine out here due to transport costs.
Atrios
Alcohol is not my bag, baby.
Duane V, possegotvelocity |
07.26.08 - 1:58 pm | #
Helena:
I'd still like to see Sibelius, Granholm, or Edwards.
Edwards is a choice I could support.
Toby Petzold |
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07.26.08 - 1:59 pm | #
Well, I did say one NEW thing. "New" can certainly be amorphous, but the point is to step up a notch...
It does make you think, maybe make a list, be more aware, get ideas from others.
I know, I'm a demanding motherfucker. and cranky, don't forget cranky.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:59 pm | #
I'd like Theo to send Manny out to whine country.
Phil Gramm (R - UBS)
Yup. Phil Gramm and every other Red Sox fan. Consider the effect on the offense, especially with an ailing David Ortiz...
Duane V, possegotvelocity |
07.26.08 - 1:59 pm | #
east coast/west coast thing. much less cheap wine out here due to transport costs.
Atrios
But you have all those fine New York vintages close to hand.....
Well, I did say one NEW thing. "New" can certainly be amorphous, but the point is to step up a notch...
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:56 pm |
Picky, picky.
How about working on moving closer to work, so I can just walk, instead of taking up space on a bus?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.26.08 - 2:02 pm | #
It does make you think, maybe make a list, be more aware, get ideas from others.
the decline in wine is caused by the presumptious elitism of the obama campaign. Can I have another Chateau de Kiwi Flavor?
/Lynne de Rothschild
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:03 pm | #
There isn't enough substance in Bush even to make a decent tragedy.
ProfWombat | 07.26.08 - 1:42 pm | #
america is the tragic hero of the bush story.
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:04 pm | #
"Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap" is playing in my head.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:04 pm | #
I am totally boycotting the imported wines and anything else in food categories.
several reasons are obvious--support US home grown, eat more locally, but also we are choking to death on pollution from the goods movement industry--primarily the ship exhausts.
50% of all SOX--that is derivatives of sulfur--and a similar figure for particulate matter are coming off of ships. the shipping companies refuse to burn cleaner fuels and are fighting new regulations.
Consider the effect on the offense, especially with an ailing David Ortiz...
Ortiz is back. Manny might be getting the Nomar treatment before the trade deadline. He's 36. The Sox are trying to move him, that's for sure.
Phil Gramm (R - UBS) |
07.26.08 - 2:06 pm | #
That's a great tat!
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:09 pm | #
I think it's a paper transfer fake tattoo.
Doug |
07.26.08 - 2:09 pm | #
Wine sales are declining because we are being forced to move into the city so as to be available for the making of Soylent Green.
Only our cars can save us!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rmj, Sweet Crude Theologist |
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07.26.08 - 2:10 pm | #
oh demon alcohol
sad memories
i can't recall
who thought
i would fall
a slave to demon alcohol
-- ray
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:10 pm | #
It's interesting that beer sales fell 10% from 2001 to 2005, while wine sales went up 5%. That was when the illusion of wealth through real estate was strongest. Now that everyone realizes how broke they are it's back to beer.
It's not easy to drink on a budget, but it can be done. Personally, I went from regional wines to Three Buck Chuck. YMMV.
Ortiz is back. Manny might be getting the Nomar treatment before the trade deadline. He's 36. The Sox are trying to move him, that's for sure.
Phil Gramm (R - UBS)
He's back, but he's not yet in game shape. It'll be a few games. You do not want those games to end up being pivotal.
Duane V, possegotvelocity |
07.26.08 - 2:10 pm | #
The Roma? Uncle Adolf was right.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:55 pm | #
Ah, the Sociopathic Liar&tm; is with us.
Hey Tobes, I wasn't surprised to see you salivate all over this piece of crap over at your piece of wingnut insanity over at your piece of shit blog.
After all, the writer is a misogynist and classic closet case with an ill-concealed case of homosexual panic.
Plus the cartoons with the piece portray Obama as a monkey.
Racisim, sexism and homophobia -- it's like a bigot's trifecta.
Right up your alley....
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 2:10 pm | #
BTW, the sparrows that nested right by my front door in a hanging plant basket, have recently changed their nesting behavior. I'd at first only seen the female bird sitting on it, and now, I see both the male and the female on the nest with the other one franticly flying somewhere in the vicinity, then back to the nest.
I hope they have hatchlings, though I can not get a good view without disturbing them.
Doug |
07.26.08 - 2:11 pm | #
gots things to do before the sox/yankee game.
bike, shop.
earn some wifey bucks.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 2:11 pm | #
I'm sorry, that's the Sociopathic Liar™.
I regret the error...
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 2:12 pm | #
america is the tragic hero of the bush story.
rootless-e, re-texicaned
America has been martyred by the Bush Crime Syndicate..
Duane V, possegotvelocity |
07.26.08 - 2:12 pm | #
As people's palates mature, they outgrow wine and transition to good beers.
Beer created civilization. Wine created unfounded arrogance.
DavidDvorkin |
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07.26.08 - 2:12 pm | #
Ever read a description of a wine?
"Strong taste of chicken feathers with an after burn of Saudi kerosine."
Doug |
07.26.08 - 2:14 pm | #
Wine sales are declining because we are being forced to move into the city so as to be available for the making of Soylent Green.
I think it's simply: New preznit coming, increased desire to have a beer with.
masculine_monica_nyc |
07.26.08 - 2:15 pm | #
Advocating genocide won't get you banned here. Right Atrios?
Duane V, possegotvelocity
Hell, threatening a member of this community and his family hasn't gotten another racist troll banned.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:15 pm | #
"Beer created civilization. Wine created unfounded arrogance."
Wine creates confusion. When in doubt, you can always order a Bud. Everyone knows what you want, what it is and it is perfectly normal.
Wine. You can't do that. Be a fledgling in wine and order something out of place and the joint goes quiet and everyone stares.
Doug, the thing I like about that tattoo is that it looks a little like Bush 41 and 43.
TOW-killfile user |
07.26.08 - 2:16 pm | #
I think it's simply: New preznit coming, increased desire to have a beer with.
masculine_monica_nyc
I'd rather smoke some weed with Obama.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:16 pm | #
you do not want those games to end up being pivotal.
No worries like that for us Reds fans.
jc in ky |
07.26.08 - 2:16 pm | #
in our tradition we recite
Baruch Atah Adonai Eloheinu Melech ha'olam Borei peri ha-gafen, pero no gracias por el maneshevitz, una tinto rioja por favor.
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:16 pm | #
I'm listening to the Glenn Greenwald and Cass Sunstein smack down on Democracy Now!
I want to cheer and cry at the same time.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:17 pm | #
You're afraid to go into a 7/11 much less Iraq.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.26.08 - 2:18 pm | #
america is the tragic hero of the bush story.
rootless-e, re-texicaned
America has been martyred by the Bush Crime Syndicate..
Duane V, possegotvelocity
I liked this one from two threads below:
Some men sacrificed their sons for their nation. George Herbert Walker Bush sacrificed his nation for his son.
Tim Horton
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:19 pm | #
Wine creates confusion. When in doubt, you can always order a Bud. Everyone knows what you want, what it is and it is perfectly normal.
bud may be popular, but it is not normal.
i think, if you want to be sophisticated and cool, it is never out of place to ask for "everclear and shasta, please."
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:19 pm | #
Between the sock puppets and trolls, I don't even know if I'm real anymore.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:19 pm | #
i think, if you want to be sophisticated and cool, it is never out of place to ask for "everclear and shasta, please."
rootless-e, re-texicaned "
camelot, is that your Vdub bus?
Doug |
07.26.08 - 2:21 pm | #
When in doubt, you can always order a Bud. Everyone knows what you want, what it is and it is perfectly normal.
I'll order water.
Ain't nuthin' gonna make me order or drink THAT shit.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:22 pm | #
Yes, whoever you are, real or imagined. Well, no. It is as close a picture from the net as I could get. Mine has flowers and peace signs all over.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:23 pm | #
Went for my first ride in a VW bus in 1959; thought it was the coolest thing in the entire world.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 2:23 pm | #
It would be nice to the prices of decent California wines come down a few dollars in response to the diminished demand.
Really pisses me off to pay $10 for a bottle. $7 is more like it.
And yeah two buck chuck sucks my fuck.
Stunt Woman |
07.26.08 - 2:23 pm | #
I'll order water.
Ain't nuthin' gonna make me order or drink THAT shit.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
As a waiter in Amsterdam said to me: "It is like the piss, yes?"
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.26.08 - 2:24 pm | #
As a waiter in Amsterdam said to me: "It is like the piss, yes?"
Supreme Commander Thor
He nailed it.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:24 pm | #
As a waiter in Amsterdam said to me: "It is like the piss, yes?"
Supreme Commander Thor | 07.26.08 - 2:24 pm | #
for $40 (money to the local senior center) there are 27 breweries and 27 bbq teams and it's all included.
8/16/2008 1-5 Guerneville, Ca
Liars for McCaca |
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07.26.08 - 2:25 pm | #
Went for my first ride in a VW bus in 1959; thought it was the coolest thing in the entire world.
You and my kids. I have had to pull it into the yard, so they could sleep in it when they had friends over.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:25 pm | #
"Ain't nuthin' gonna make me order or drink THAT shit.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 "
Only point I am really making is with beer, when in doubt, there are quite a few brands that can come to mind to order without fear. People are intimidated by wine unless they really get into it.
EkCenTriK |
07.26.08 - 2:25 pm | #
Clausthaler is OK. If you're thirsty, and it's cold, they all are, and they taste better than Bud, Miller or Coors...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 2:26 pm | #
Obama wants us to surrender to the Iraqis.
It's their country, needle-dick.
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Grand Moff Texan
You really CAN'T fix stupid.
Not the troll brand of stupid anyway.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:26 pm | #
non-alcoholic beer
What's the point?
That's how I feel about decaf.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:27 pm | #
Clausthaler is OK. If you're thirsty, and it's cold, they all are, and they taste better than Bud, Miller or Coors...
ProfWombat
"Rolling Rock, please!"
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 2:27 pm | #
What brand of non-alcoholic beer do you dirty fucking hippies prefer?>
It might also have to do with the increase in craft or microbreweries
That was my thought. People have learned that mass marketed beer is shit. At first they turned to wine, and now they're learning more about microbrews.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 2:27 pm | #
non-alcoholic beer
What's the point?
I hear you.
I asked myself the same question at one point. But when it's hot I want to drink beer all day. I can do it for one day but if I do it twice it really fucks up my guts (unlike wine) and turns me into a social liability if you catch my ... wind.
And I figured out that it is a problem only with alcoholic beers.
Stunt Woman |
07.26.08 - 2:28 pm | #
GMT: more to the point, the Iraqis are, well, our allies, supposedly, so surrendering to 'em is a tortured construction...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 2:28 pm | #
Okay, I have to tear myself away from the crack den or I won't get a damn thing done around here.
Once again I say: catch you patriotz laterz.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 2:28 pm | #
"What's the point?
That's how I feel about decaf.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex"
Same with things labeled low fat. I would rather do without and have whatever it is once in awhile than try to live on the low fat version of anything.
EkCenTriK |
07.26.08 - 2:29 pm | #
You really CAN'T fix stupid.
I can.
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Death |
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07.26.08 - 2:29 pm | #
You gotta not drink alcohol, the NA beers are OK, they go well with food, aren't sweet.
I've tried NA wines, which are really not worth drinking if you at all remember the taste of good wine...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 2:29 pm | #
And I figured out that it is a problem only with alcoholic beers.
Stunt Woman
I'm listening to the Glenn Greenwald and Cass Sunstein smack down on Democracy Now!
I want to cheer and cry at the same time.
camelot
Sunstein was at first touted as an official advisor to Obama but the last time I heard he has been downgraded to unofficial advisor.
qlª - Degenerate |
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07.26.08 - 2:30 pm | #
Re: Clausthaler -- tried that one. I a blind test, i couldn't tell the difference between that and Beck's except that the Beck's had a vaguely lemony scent.
Stunt Woman |
07.26.08 - 2:30 pm | #
NA wines
You mean, grape fruit juice?
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 2:30 pm | #
Prof:
The Iraqis are victim props when Bush needs a justification, boogeymen when they try to eject an invader, and ungrateful children when their government tells Bush to get the fuck out.
Disposable flesh puppets, to a conservative.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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07.26.08 - 2:30 pm | #
GMT: agreed, and not evidence of serious thinking on their part. It's high Oprahism as foreign policy: it's all about me...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 2:31 pm | #
Well, gotta go take a cake and a pie to my dad, life long Dem, all-around good guy, for his 78th birthday. You folks have a great day.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:32 pm | #
Toby, there are moslem aliens wanting to anal probe you now.
I like Old Style for a cheap beer.
Most guys I'm around drink the light versions of Bud and Miller. They laugh
at my beer.
jc in ky |
07.26.08 - 2:32 pm | #
The Iraqis are victim props when Bush needs a justification, boogeymen when they try to eject an invader, and ungrateful children when their government tells Bush to get the fuck out.
Disposable flesh puppets, to a conservative.
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Grand Moff Texan
Go slower.
pudpuller could never get his atrophied little brain around all that.
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07.26.08 - 2:32 pm | #
Sunstein was at first touted as an official advisor to Obama but the last time I heard he has been downgraded to unofficial advisor.
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ql, is that you? I don't know whether I sent you an e-mail or a sockpuppet, since the great nameless one was trying to get me to tell my exact location the other day. I'm paranoid.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 2:34 pm | #
Come on, Atrios. You don't actually think "Sideways" had any impact on wine sales, do you? How many tickets did that movie sell?
If your theory is correct, though, Bottle Shock may give sales a bounce.
res ipsa loquitur |
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07.26.08 - 2:40 pm | #
sommelier i must complain
your selections seem so weak and plain
a flavor strong that does not fade
a hint of gum and gatorade
is what a palate as deep as mine
expects to find in serious wine
long have we travelled
and hard have we labored
we need vintage of Mogen and David
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:41 pm | #
I have an old pair of glasses with lenses that darken in bright light -- but boy, do the glasses intensify my vertigo!
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 2:41 pm | #
Riding down the freeway i feel eyes on me. Look over to see truck driver making eye contact with me while pulling a dildo out of his mouth!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 2:45 pm | #
It had a lot of enthusiastic fans. I was not one of them.
After seeing the movie I enjoyed the book a lot more.
But the commentary on the movie was a riot.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.26.08 - 2:45 pm | #
Bah, shoulda searched the thread. Here's the Coke.
ThatGuy |
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07.26.08 - 2:46 pm | #
I HATED Sideways. Gawd, what an awful flick.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:41 pm
I found it so-so, but my wife loathed it. The guy steals from his mother and you're supposed to have sympathy for him? To my wife, anyone who steals from his mother should be drawn, quartered, flayed, beheaded, and burned at the stake. (Not necessarily in that order.)
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 2:46 pm | #
I loved the "You're Getting Married?!?" purse-whomping scene.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 2:47 pm | #
I'm afraid, I have to agree, I had no sympathy for any of the characters in Sideways. Awful men, and women who were mostly drawn as penis holsters.
catalexis |
07.26.08 - 2:48 pm | #
Riding down the freeway i feel eyes on me. Look over to see truck driver making eye contact with me while pulling a dildo out of his mouth!
If Obama wins, you can expect this on a daily basis, from people driving schoolbuses.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 2:48 pm | #
The only line that stands out to me is "I am not drinking fucking Merlot!"
catalexis |
07.26.08 - 2:49 pm | #
One of the good things about "Sideways" was it drove the price of Merlot down. I happen to like Merlot.
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 2:49 pm | #
BREAKING: OBAMA ACCIDENTALLY CAUGHT ON MIC SAYING SENSIBLE THINGS - DIDN'T EVEN SWEAR OR ANYTHING.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 2:50 pm | #
Little known fact: Jabba the Hutt's favorite wine is Corellian merlot.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 2:50 pm | #
.So, if anyone is wondering how many fractions of a second of war they paid for last year, Progressive Future’s Invest in US Calculator will tell you—and reveal what those hard-earned dollars could have paid for instead, if our leaders had been investing in us.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.26.08 - 2:50 pm | #
Dildo truckers, on ice roads in Alaska in a talent competition judged by Cory Feldman, tonight on Fox!
catalexis |
07.26.08 - 2:50 pm | #
The Tory told Obama to go to the beach.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 2:51 pm | #
God did i learn to hate it, having business dinners in California in the late 1990s.
rootless-e, re-texicaned |
07.26.08 - 2:52 pm | #
The funniest part of Sideways was Paul Gianatti stealing back his friend's ring while two people were fucking only feet away.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 2:52 pm | #
The best part of Sideways was Virginia Madsen.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 2:53 pm | #
With gas prices getting as high as they are, I'm getting one of these to get around on.
I reckon Sp ocko has seen this, already.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 2:54 pm | #
Merlot is the Bud wines. "White Zinfandel" [sic] is the Bud Light of wines.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 2:54 pm | #
and why is simels writing movie reviews and not you?
rootless-e, re-texicaned
It wouldn't kill you to go over to his website and comment. He isn't getting any younger.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 2:55 pm | #
What weird SciFi Channel show did I just see where
Isabella Rosselini was an alien villainess?
Would that have been "Infected"?
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.26.08 - 2:56 pm | #
America is the Bud Light of peace-loving nations.
masculine_monica_nyc |
07.26.08 - 2:56 pm | #
I'm the Bud Light of teetotalers.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 2:56 pm | #
Yes, when I found I could no longer bear "Lockup", I watched "Infected."
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 2:57 pm | #
If Merlot is the Bud of wines, what is Chablis in a box?
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 2:58 pm | #
I remember taking a writing course in college when Star Wars first came out and I found it can be a great deal of fun explaining why one likes a movie as well. Beyond a simple assertion that something is well done, or delightful or any of those other bloodless compliments, it can be a challenge to praise a movie. Dissing them creatively, I think almost all of us can do.
catalexis |
07.26.08 - 2:58 pm | #
virginia madsen doing that long recitation on why she loves wine is my favorite part. and she closes it with, 'and it tastes. so. fucking. good.'
fokowi |
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07.26.08 - 2:59 pm | #
If he wins maybe he can replace Pelosi. By Matt Stoller.
One of the most exciting candidates I've met this cycle is Alan Grayson, a high profile trial lawyer who has been suing defense contractors for fraud, and is now running for Florida's eighth district in central Florida.
Grayson is part of a new crew of progressive professionals, people like Darcy Burner and Donna Edwards with a tremendous track record of success in fields other than politics who are crossing over into the progressive sector out of a sheer revulsion of where this country is headed.
Because of his track record suing defense contractors, Grayson is completely uninterested and unintimidated by ridiculous arguments about secrecy and national security.
He thinks that war crimes have been committed, that people need to be put in prison, and that we absolutely cannot let bygones be bygones with the 2000-2008 era.
People like Grayson aren't just going to speak out, they are going to organize within Congress, something the current progressive caucus doesn't do. That is in fact both their quickest route to power and what they believe in.
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 3:00 pm | #
virginia madsen doing that long recitation on why she loves wine is my favorite part. and she closes it with, 'and it tastes. so. fucking. good.'
fokowi
See, I was just staring at her boobs.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 3:00 pm | #
Virginia Madsen is Teh Hawtness.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:01 pm | #
The best part of Star Wars was the Binary Sunset scene.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 3:01 pm | #
bush can't point to any accomplishments, so he points to an imaginary consensus 50 years in the future that he was a great president.
pretzelattack | 07.26.08 - 1:40 pm | #
Fifty years from now, I would be 109 years old.
Never cared much for the idea of living that long, given my heredity and the probability of degenerative diseases, no matter how well I take care of myself.
On the other hand, I would love to live that long to see historians re-declare Bush the Worst President Ever.
Then I could die happy.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:01 pm | #
Someone needs to replace that collaborationist bitch Pelosi.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:02 pm | #
The best part of Star Wars was the Binary Sunset scene.
The best part, for me, was leaving the theater and going to a bar to get hammered.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.26.08 - 3:02 pm | #
The best part, for me, was leaving the theater and going to a bar to get hammered.
Supreme Commander Thor
I was not old enough to drink in 1977.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 3:03 pm | #
Okay, gotta head into the city for my traditional Saturday night quaffing of elite chardonnay with my satanic commie buds.
On the other hand, I would love to live that long to see historians re-declare Bush the Worst President Ever.
I'm looking forward to that -- and I'll be a 107. Of course, the way things are going I'll probably still be working as a greeter at Walmart.
Toonscribe |
07.26.08 - 3:04 pm | #
Someone needs to replace that collaborationist bitch Pelosi.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I had her pegged as a collaborationist twat.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 3:04 pm | #
evening moonbats
went to see The Dark Knight at the cinema today, really liked it.
weather has also been gorgeous, blue skies and unbroken sunshine
Moonbootica, relaxed |
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07.26.08 - 3:04 pm | #
I was not old enough to drink in 1977.
Gomez
The worst part of that night was getting hit by a drunk driver on the way home, ending up in the hospital in traction for 2 weeks and then having to wear a cervical collar for 9 months.
Yep, all around shitty evening.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.26.08 - 3:04 pm | #
no fucking Melot!
me and my dad like Sideways
Moonbootica, relaxed |
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07.26.08 - 3:05 pm | #
In the meantime, if you feel like leaving a comment over at Box Office I'd be your best friend.
Cool, then when someone tries to call me an anti-semite I have an answer.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 3:05 pm | #
What the fuck are you talking about Willis?
Le Jackel |
07.26.08 - 3:05 pm | #
Heidi has been sleeping all day and this morning she was sunning herself on the windowsill
she loves it when the weather is warm, she stops being all bitchy
Moonbootica, relaxed |
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07.26.08 - 3:06 pm | #
The best part, for me, was leaving the theater and going to a bar to get hammered.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:06 pm | #
On the other hand, I would love to live that long to see historians re-declare Bush the Worst President Ever.
Then I could die happy.
What's this crap abt not being able to toast with water? Who made that up?
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07.26.08 - 3:07 pm | #
she was sunning herself on the windowsill
she loves it when the weather is warm,
Sunny? Warm weather in the UK? Unpossible.
Toonscribe |
07.26.08 - 3:07 pm | #
Damn slanties. Another Barack HUSSEIN Obama plot!
The best part, for me, was leaving the theater and going to a bar to get hammered.
The best part for me was waiting between showings in anticipation of the opening scene.
I saw that movie six times during the summer of '77.
I have a lightsaber on a display stand on top of my monitor.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:07 pm | #
Someone needs to replace that collaborationist bitch Pelosi.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I had her pegged as a collaborationist twat.
Gomez
Which progressive hero do you think should replace her? Steny Hoyer? Rahm Emmanuel?
Cause those are your choices. Not Barney Frank. Not Robert Wexler. Not Donna Edwards. Not Jan Schiakowsky. Not Pete Stark. Hoyer or Emmanuel.
Devils lurking advocate |
07.26.08 - 3:07 pm | #
Hoyer or Emmanuel.
Two more worthless collaborationist twits.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:08 pm | #
An Anglican version of the Holy Office - the Vatican body responsible for endorsing doctrine and suppressing heresy - was proposed yesterday in an attempt to resolve the ongoing rows over homosexuality and bring the church back from the brink of schism.
The initiative, revealed yesterday in Canterbury as the town hosts the Lambeth Conference, would tackle divisive issues such the ordination of gay clergy and the blessing of same-sex relationships.
The Vatican body is formally known as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Setting up an Anglican "Faith and Order Commission" could bring guidance on "issues raised by our current crisis", according to a document released by the Windsor Continuation Group, which analyses tensions within the communion.
The document criticised warring factions and highlighted the impact of their dispute. "We denigrate the discipleship of others," it said. "This has led to the fragmentation as well as to confusion among our ecumenical partners."
I saw a funny cartoon in Private Eye the other day, two vicars were walking down a street and people are being stabbed, mugged etc. and one says to the other 'I'm simply worried about Women bishops'
Moonbootica, relaxed |
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07.26.08 - 3:08 pm | #
Sunny? Warm weather in the UK? Unpossible.
Toonscribe | 07.26.08 - 3:07 pm | #
it does happen, it doesn't last a month but we get one or two weeks when the weather is marvelous
Moonbootica, relaxed |
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07.26.08 - 3:09 pm | #
Chateau Graville-Lacoste 2007, $15 at Costco, estate bottled, ready to drink, dry but with strong fruit. Very drinkable and reasonably cheap, especially considering the weak dollar. First wine I've bought in years, since I can no longer afford to drink what I like, and my liver refuses cheap booze (undoubtedly because of overuse in previous decades).
Generally, I prefer beer. Or a dry, fruity, way-too-expensive red that I won't ever be able to afford ever again.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:09 pm | #
it does happen, it doesn't last a month but we get one or two weeks when the weather is marvelous
Then it's back to pea soup fog and weather that helps explain why English cuisine has a reputation for being blander than a boiled for 12 days rump.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:10 pm | #
Someone needs to replace that collaborationist bitch Pelosi.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I had her pegged as a collaborationist twat.
Gomez
This seems all very disrespectful and incivil.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 3:11 pm | #
my dad has over a 100 wine bottles in the garage
he takes advantages of deals done by supermarkets and buys in bulk
and its only the good stuff, I simply refused to drink cheap wine
there are affordable wines out there which are very nice but aren't like those cheap crappy wines like Blossom Hill
Moonbootica, relaxed |
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07.26.08 - 3:12 pm | #
This seems all very disrespectful and incivil.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker
What? I didn't call her a cunt.
Gomez |
07.26.08 - 3:12 pm | #
This seems all very disrespectful and incivil.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker
Ok, since I brought it up. What I appreciated was the fact the machines, the robots, the ships, the weapons in Star wars all looked used like they do in real life. The floors were not all polished to perfection museum walkways and stuff was dirty and had dents and needed to be bonked on the side because it didn't always work. Hell I half expected some scotch taped sign over a panel saying "Do NOT leave on over night, it wears out the battery. Thank you!" Their guns were called Blasters, not Cyber Anti Personnel Projectile Mark IV's. There was a delightful unpretentious quality to people's relationship with their environment. Even the DeathStar had a few kinks in it.
The storyline is another matter and so it is with other films where the visuals take on an audience of their own...this is probably a flaw in the pure sense of storytelling but then again we do not live entirely in the word.
catalexis |
07.26.08 - 3:13 pm | #
There are affordable wines out there which are very nice but aren't like those cheap crappy wines
That's because you don't live in Tennessee, Moon, where drinkin' is a SIN and must be taxed out of existence. Anyhow, you can always make booze in your backyard still (we all have them, don't you know). Who needs that elitist wine?
Only liberal traitors drink wine.
Or something.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:14 pm | #
That's because you don't live in Tennessee, Moon, where drinkin' is a SIN and must be taxed out of existence.
An attitude that exists, side by side, with NASCAR which was born of moonshine running to escape the revenooers. Where white lightning is still distilled in remote hollers.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:18 pm | #
What? I didn't call her a cunt.
Gomez | 07.26.08 - 3:12 pm | #
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
Cunt is a good Anglo-Saxon word for a part of the female body that is useful and can be fun-producing. I resent McCain's use of it as a pejorative. That's why I would never call him an asshole. Assholes are useful. Try to get along without yours.
Pelosi is a disgusting piece of human excrement.
There isn't a word bad enough for McCain or Bush or the rest of their cadre.
Only semi-kidding.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:18 pm | #
Could anyone stand some LarryElvis?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 3:20 pm | #
Hi, jeffraham!
♥♥♥♥♥
I'm about to go to the grocery store. Picked up my bootleg milk and farm eggs this morning, and the veggies come from the CSA, but we need toilet paper -- stuff like that.
You?
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:20 pm | #
I came across the Web site by accident looking up someone's name, and it's just awful. It exists, I guess, for dumb postings about how Democrats are afraid, incredibly afraid, of Mike Huckabee, etc., etc., etc.
But let's not forget the incredibly awful graphic of McCain himself. They try to flatter him, but he still looks old and sickly and just weird. Then they surround him with an otherworldly glow. (Is he...Jesus??). And then they give him a backdrop of about a dozen shadowy outlined figures. I guess they're supposed to be McCain supporters rapturously listening to his wisdom at a speech, but they look like evil monsters (zombies? aliens?) in a 1960s horror film--"Children of the Damned," maybe.
Add to that the lame, dumb tagline "keep your faith, keep that courage" (thank you, e.e. cummings-mccain), and you have a many-carat gem of stupidity on so many levels.
Anon |
07.26.08 - 3:22 pm | #
Why would Obama need to surrender to the Iraqis? They've already won. We need to withdraw. Surrender is unnecessary, everybody knows we lost.
ronjazz |
07.26.08 - 3:23 pm | #
in a 1960s horror film--"Children of the Damned," maybe.
I've always said Cindy McCain looks like the little girl from "Village of the Damned" all grown up.
Toonscribe |
07.26.08 - 3:24 pm | #
I'm about to go to the grocery store. Picked up my bootleg milk and farm eggs this morning, and the veggies come from the CSA, but we need toilet paper -- stuff like that.
You?
Soprano, sempre libera
You big-city Tennesseans are cruel and elitist to us out in the sticks. Out here between enclaves like Nashville and Memphis a mention of the letters "CSA" and a question about where one might be found will be answered with directions to the local Sons of Confederate Veterans chapter.
Xan |
07.26.08 - 3:25 pm | #
Toonscribe: I've always said Cindy McCain looks like the little girl from "Village of the Damned" all grown up.
It's those bizarre mirrored contacts she wears.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 3:25 pm | #
In the capital cities of Thailand and Cambodia, the military standoff that has seen hundreds of troops line up along their border over the past two weeks is widely believed to threaten war. At the heart of the dispute is a 900-year-old temple to which both sides lay claim - and with a Thai government mired in political crisis and its Cambodian counterpart facing elections tomorrow, neither side has been willing to stand down.
But for opposing soldiers patrolling the border just feet apart from each other, the mood was a little lighter as Cambodian troopers joke about their inferior equipment. Over swapped cigarettes, ageing hand-grenades take particular stick. The pins have a lethal habit of falling out, and the soldiers point mockingly at rubber bands that serve as a fail-safe.
In nearby Ban Phumsaral, on the Thai side of the border however, the two-week build-up is no laughing matter. Frightened villagers just a few miles from the Thai exclusion zone that has sealed off the Preah Vihear temple site gather around radios for the latest word, hopeful that Monday's ministerial meeting will offer hope of an end to the dispute.
The astigmatism is quite frankly endearing.
Le Jackel |
07.26.08 - 3:27 pm | #
But let's not forget the incredibly awful graphic of McCain himself. They try to flatter him, but he still looks old and sickly and just weird.
Anon,
If anything, he looks like Cheney in that photo -- just as the defibrillating pacemaker is zapping him.
Notice there is nowhere on that site that says anything about who put it up there -- just that they're not affiliated with any candidate or candidate's campaign.
I wouldn't send turkee to anyone who wouldn't tell me who he is.
But maybe Thugs are stupid enough to do that.
Hmmm. Maybe it's time to start a McCain Web site. I could buy some elitist wine with the contributions.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:28 pm | #
Xan,
Are you allowed to have Farmer's Markets? Or are you required to grow your own?
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:30 pm | #
Xan | 07.26.08 - 3:25 pm
Farmer was here on the overnight thread Thursday. Your name came up.
Some of them unquestionably are. Probably the same wretched offal that thinks that the Chimp is a "good Christian".
In other news, I got the Snorgtees triplebabe ad, featuring the "I'm kind of a big deal" babe in the middle.
They're all like rays of sunshine.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 3:31 pm | #
They're all like rays of sunshine.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 07.26.08 - 3:31 pm | #
They're so young.
BBL. Off to the corporate grocery rip-off establishment.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 3:34 pm | #
Xan,
Are you allowed to have Farmer's Markets? Or are you required to grow your own?
Soprano, sempre libera
Well, there's no law against it, but the only "produce markets" I know of (one 10 miles north, the other 8 miles or so south) are just open-air vendors of the same boxed shipped-in-from-elsewhere products you'd get in a supermarket.
So I grow my own, although the only things I'm persuading to go horticulture themselve this year are tomatoes and a struggling couple of rhubarbs. The cukes succumbed to some kind of weird mosaic, the onions just grow for a few weeks then die.
really didn't work on it much this year. Am trying to generate compost and save up newspaper for a major soil-buildign project in the fall, and hope for better next time.
Xan |
07.26.08 - 3:35 pm | #
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qlª - Degenerate |
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07.26.08 - 3:39 pm | #
seems kinda silly to call sheets when apparently the only one who didn't know about it was me...
Xan |
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