I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Whee!
this was actually a good idea - I realize it's a more Canadian version of it but we get by
I'm listening to Mermaid Avenue this morning to remind me there's another America.
I'm loving Sarah's stupid mouth.
Wheeee, also.
hard times....must suck to be a hedge fund millionaire
let Haliburton take over
let Haliburton take over
Chairman Mo | 09.06.08 - 10:03 am | #
done.
Well, it would be good for MI.
If you like Schadenfreude, you'll love:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
Can't wait to hear what America's Hockey Mom has to say about this. I mean, if she were even available for interviews.
I don't think nationalizing public corporations quite meets the requirements of big government.
yep thats the ticket, outsource the entire government to Haliburton. Free enterprise rocks.
free markets mean we get a free ride bitches!
My proposed statutory libel legislation, however, meets the . . . no, in fact, it wouldn't be big government either.
there's gonna be some good shit on ebay
But what about me and my bank?
-George Bailey
Isn't this the week the auto industry begs to be nationalized?
Scary pickshurs at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Dead threaded.
This isn't necessary good news for the US but it is good news (I hope)
Bhutto's widower wins presidency
Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, has won a sweeping victory in Pakistan's presidential election.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/
7600917.stm
Isn't this the week the auto industry begs to be nationalized?
Only if I can by my own Abrahms tank or one of those vehicles Atrios misidentified four or five years ago.
This “bail out” of Fanny and Freddie will consist of the major investment banks shifting to their own books at bargain prices the GSE’s assets that still retain value while at the same time they transfer over to the GSE’s all their own toxic paper. In other words the taxpayers will be bailing out both Fanny and Freddie and the major investment banks.
So let’s talk about the immorality of those “Eastern elites”. Now mind you, Mitt Romney calling out the Eastern elites is like Albert Einstein complaining about Jewish Intellectuals. But it will be interesting to see if either major party will be commenting on this taxpayer swindle of the millennium by the real Eastern elites. Or are we just going to be covered for the coming weeks by the Palin smokescreen while the US taxpayer takes it up the ass.
Zadari just won the one of the most fractious countries in the world.
This thread isn't for us. We will come in later.
The Palin issue is however, an interesting study of the Republican dynamic.
I take it that the reason that this comes out over a Friday night is that it there is some really scary shit goin down.
Oh, the Number Troll. Neat.
SOP...Friday dump...markets closed
cheap drinks at happy hour
two days to pack
That post from the Rude Pundit is excellent. And it's not even rude. Not a single fuck was pecked out.
What's left of Hanna should be hitting Moe-land and Labrador tomorrow.
shredders are hard at work
The Rude One is a treasure!
glad i dumped my riskiest mutual funds last week
We think you're neat too Plantsman.
Compared to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, GM would be a bargain basement purchase, and a steal, at that.
Fear & Intimidation in Alaska:
“The GOP is kind of like organized crime up here,” an insurance agent in Anchorage who knows the Palin family, explained. “It’s corrupt and arrogant. They’re all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.”
The Buick Enclave gets better mileage than an Acura
MDX. I can't afford either.
They’re all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.”
Danny Dalton, in "Syriana," shouting, "CORRUPTION IS HOW WE WIN!"
If the election remains close, the next president could very well be picked by what Chris Lehane, a Democratic strategist, calls “Wal-Mart Moms” — white working women with children living in the exurbs and in rural parts of battleground states, who may make up a swing sliver of the electorate.
Can a woman be a "Wal-Mart Mom" a "Hockey Mom" a "Soccer Mom" and a "Security Mom" all at the same time?
Seems like a lot to load on somebody's shoulders.
"Sambo beat the bitch." -- Sarah Palin's Greatest Hit.
So, let me get this real straight, the nominal nominee of the great American political party, the Republicans, was put in front of an image of a high school his campaign mistook for the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Have I got that right? If my stupid, lame-ass nephew got that Googling so wrong I would firmly correct the little fucker.
Q I'm sorry, one more question on those economic growth numbers or the job loss numbers -- you did point to productivity being higher, but isn't that a two-edged sword in that sometimes you accomplish higher productivity by needing less workers to do more work?
MS. PERINO: You know what, Paula, as I said, when it comes to economics, what I can do is point you to the numbers, which is that productivity was at 3.4 percent, which was considered a good number by the economists that look at this from our perspective.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20080905-
4.html
cool now let's nationalize the energy industry!
i just knew the right wing was a cover for the Trotskyites...
Gawd. Perino does not even use the phrase "increased by 3.4%. Whadda dolt!
i just knew the right wing was a cover for the Trotskyites..
I said "vice pick" not "ice pick" ARRRRRGH
shorter Perino; GET BACK TO YOUR DESK ASSHOLE!
which was considered a good number by the economists that look at this from our perspective.
Our perspective?
That's a bit like saying, "goddammit, you idiot, the sky is green. Can't you see?"
Compared to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, GM would be a bargain basement purchase, and a steal, at that.
Actually they still could recover their identity as a good company.
It would take a total re-org of the company from the bottom to the top for this to occur.
Actually they still could recover their identity as a good company.
It would take a total re-org of the company from the bottom to the top for this to occur.
Doug | 09.06.08 - 10:19 am | #
or....
hey #guy, McCain/Phalin 08
Actually they still could recover their identity as a good company.
It would take a total re-org of the company from the bottom to the top for this to occur.
I know how the GM system works. This is not something I expect to see in my lifetime. The top brass would let the entire operation go right down the drain before they'd admit to a single error in management....
Real trolls just want to have fun, play with parody. The angry accusatory ones are imposters, or sock puppets.
which was considered a good number by the economists that look at this from our perspective.
The problem with this is that workers displaced by productivity innovations are supposed to be able to compete with their former employer, thus keeping prices down relative to productivity.
"ENOUGH BIG GOVERNMENT LIBERALISM!
ELECT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS IN 2008!
ONLY JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN CAN CLEAN UP THE MESS CREATED BY BIG GOVERNMENT LIBERALS SINCE 1980!" - Mitt Romney
WASHINGTON -- A Republican congressman from Georgia who referred to Barack and Michelle Obama as "uppity" says he wasn't aware of the term's racial overtones and did not intend to insult anyone.
I guess to be a rethug in the South you need a couple of scoops of grey matter removed.
-
Gosh, if John McCain can't properly manage a PowerPoint presentation, how do you expect him to manage the American dynamic?
Don't give GMAC any ideas...
Dear Karl Rove:
Wassila is NOT the "second largest city in Alaska"
That would be Fairbanks.
Lynn Westmoreland: shitty liar.
I want my debt nationalized, of course my profits will remain private right?
Don't give GMAC any ideas...
GMAC might be in bigger trouble than GM.
It bought heavily into... guess what?
Subprime notes.
Lynn Westmoreland: shitty liar.
And shitty person. What a creep.
Funny too how history repeats. All we need now is another Bush family member to burn a bank to the ground and we've come full circle.
Real nice to see the McCain family picking up the bank burning slack, though.
Dear Karl Rove:
Wassila is NOT the "second largest city in Alaska"
Hell. It ain't even 3rd or 4th.
I can't believe Vice Presidential Nominee Sarah Palin said, "Sambo beat the bitch" when Obama beat Clinton, but she did.
Another shitty person.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09...ible-classroom/
This is a great example of how Reagan and others fucked over this country. It is not trickle down economics, it is trickle up. They are stealing from the poor and middle class to protect and enrich the wealthy.
I can't believe Vice Presidential Nominee Sarah Palin said, "Sambo beat the bitch" when Obama beat Clinton, but she did.
Being a smart-ass, without being smart, is a sure way to invite trouble....
Can I get the Feds to nationalize me, too?
Personally, I'm looking forward to the SP video of her sexually abusing a dead moose.
Rocket J. Squirrel
Sarah Palin = Dick Cheney with lipstick, only less pleasant.
Um, this is sorta big.
In fact, the jet did not sell on eBay. It was sold to a businessman from Valdez named Larry Reynolds, who paid $2.1 million for the plane -- shy of the $2.7 million purchase price -- according to news reports at the time. Reynolds contributed to Palin's campaign in 2006.
Sold a State jet at a loss. That's our Sarah.
Gosh, if John McCain can't properly manage a PowerPoint presentation...
Bet I know why McOldfart is a bit computer-shy. His IT people won't let him near one, 'cause he keeps putting ketchup on the mouse. Understandable, I guess. I mean, they were all he had to eat for 5 years...
Real trolls just want to have fun, play with parody.
SP's hubby is such a card.
Also, you will note that real trolls only go after the arrogant hypocritical and very stupid ones. You know, republicans. You must admit, there are a sizable few here.
We love yanking their chains. Being a troll is fun.
Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma on Barack Obama.
"Do you really want to have a guy as commander in chief of this country when you can question whether or not he really loves
his country?"
That's worth another $50 bucks to Obama from me.
It's still not clear whether they'll add the $5 trillion in mortgage debt to the public debt.
You know WHY I worry...because even people like my intelligent, doctor brother-in-law cannot wrap their heads around that it's not whether Palin did or did not lie/misrepresent the JET story...it's that JOHN McSHAME went before a rally and said she's sold it on E-Bay and made a profit (demeaning her REPUG predecessor on the way) and then sold it with his creepy squint giggle...it's about what Joe Biden's REALLY, REALLY good friend has become...so demented over his ambition to become president that ANYTHING GOES...(gee, weren't folks all over THE CLINTONS for their raw ambition - but we love it in the POW)
Sold a State jet at a loss. That's our Sarah.
plantsman
Sold the plane at a loss... to a campaign contributor.
I don't see where they had a whole lot of choice at this point.
reading msnbc - no pukkke bounce as I predicted - gonna' start my own blog any day now...
but why should there have been a bounce - since 1988 the repukkkes have held the same convention same hateful blathering and culture fear mongering - people got used to gays and Roe is supported by 62% of Americans and the terror warnings proved false so... no bounce motherfuckers!
Oklahoma: State with the 2 dumbest men in the Senate.
Yeah, Bush loved the country *sooo* much, look what he's done for it.
next, can we nationalize healthcare?
michael moore made a good point last night - obama's plan is still lacking in that it leaves for-proft insurance in charge. otoh, conyers and kucinich and others in congress are working on true universal single payer, and if a strong dem majority passes it, a first term dem pres will NEVER veto it.
this, plus the supreme court, are reasons enough for progressives to enthusiastically support the obama/biden ticket.
The McCain campaign won't let Palin do interviews because they're afraid she'll say something racist, like Lynn Westmoreland.
Nobody could have foreseen that Scotland would be losing to Macedonia.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/...als/
7601915.stm
This is a great example of how Reagan and others fucked over this country. It is not trickle down economics,.....
I believe in trickle down economics republican style.
I got mine, piss on you.
The sale of the plane was not at a loss if you factor the depreciation, you know.
So it wasn't really a lie to say she made a profit. On paper. Like every thing else in this country.
See something racist Sarah said, upthread.
That's worth another $50 bucks to Obama from me.
trifecta | Homepage | 09.06.08 - 10:33 am | #
I'll match that.
You must admit, there are a sizable few here.
To be clear, there are none of these ones commenting now.
More zombie lies: McCain was a fighter pilot.
John McCain flew A-4 Skyhawks almost exclusively for his entire military career. the A-4 is a light bomber aircraft, also known as the “Tinkertoy Bomber”. This is what he was in when there was the accident on the USS Forrestal and this is the kind of plane he was flying when he was shot down and subsequently captured.
These are not “fighter planes”, they are bombers. And John McCain was a “bomber pilot” not a fighter pilot.
A few days after the Forrestal tragedy, a shaken McCain told a New York Times reporter in Saigon: "Now that I've seen what the bombs and the napalm did to the people on our ship, I'm not so sure that I want to drop any more of that stuff on North Vietnam."
Yet he did.
"I am a war criminal," McCain said on "60 Minutes" in 1997. "I bombed innocent women and children."
Sold a State jet at a loss. That's our Sarah.
plantsman | 09.06.08 - 10:32 am | #
$600,000 loss. on a $2,700,000 item.
that's a 22% loss.
wow. and mccain claims she sold it "at a profit" and bay buchanan says that pointing it out is unfairly attacking palin b/c she is a woman.
Morning, Moonbats, from wet Washington, D.C.
James Inhofe could be the dumbest person even to serve in the United States Senate; but then, he might not even be the dumbest person currently serving in the United States Senate from Oklahoma.
Fannie Mae was originally a part of gummint. It was spun off into a private/public hybrid monstrosity as an accounting trick, to make the budget look less out of whack.
See: chickens, roost, coming home to.
Also: Roosevelt, Kermit; Iran; Shah of.
Also: Hussein, Saddam; puppet, American.
Also: mujahadeen; Afghanistan; Charlie Wilson; single-cell brain.
Corporate jets are in great demand, the next GulfStream has a years-long waiting list, so she probably could have gotten a better price if she had tried -- which she didn't.
It's still not clear whether they'll add the $5 trillion in mortgage debt to the public debt.
From what I've been reading, they won't be able to sell it to the Chinese....
That leaves the Russians and the Saudis.
Good luck there.
But, if they put even a nickel towards bailing out the preferred stockholders and leaving the taxpayers holding the bag, I hope someone rolls up the guillotines onto the White House lawn, just to let `em know the extent of the public's displeasure....
The sale of the plane was not at a loss if you factor the depreciation, you know.
So it wasn't really a lie to say she made a profit.
yes, i'm pretty sure that's what the cheering crowd was thinking.
Holy Shit!
The restaurant where I had dinner last night, Little Mexico, which is about a half mile from my house, burnt to the ground!
I had no idea...
It was really kind of a cool place, because the owner had hired a local artist to do Aztex murals on the wall.
Wow, Vicki; glad you missed that! Freaky!
wow. and mccain claims she sold it "at a profit" and bay buchanan says that pointing it out is unfairly attacking palin b/c she is a woman.
I'm wondering under what line item in the Alaska state budget they buried the kickback to Palin....
I'm listening to Mermaid Avenue this morning to remind me there's another America.
There's another America? Where the fuck is it???
It was really kind of a cool place, because the owner had hired a local artist to do Aztex murals on the wall.
Was Lou Dobbs in town with a torch?
do corporate jets depreciate 22% in one year? inquiring minds want to know.
also, according to cnn (who checked w/ the broker) the jet was valued at 2.8mill and sold for 2.1mill
that sure doesn't sound like a profit to me. even on paper.
The restaurant where I had dinner last night, Little Mexico, which is about a half mile from my house, burnt to the ground!
How did that happen?
I grew up in Mexican Restaurants, I love 'em.
Number 7 troll
Are you a card carrying troll??
I hope you are not a scab troll.
Forget depreciation. The state owed $2.5 million on the plane when it sold.
You might want to GOOGLE and read an article in the Feb 11, 2008 NEWSWEEK by Evan Thomas titled THE HEROISM OF JOHN McCAIN...in it he tells in his own words just how it was that he was shot down...he ignored the regulation in place about when to GET OFF THE DIME (just the guy you want as CIC)...lost a plane worth 1million and gave himself a vacation in the Hanoi Hilton that he has milked ever since...
so she probably could have gotten a better price if she had tried -- which she didn't.
plantsman | 09.06.08 - 10:38 am | #
ebay.
another pointless stunt disguised as good policy.
Will GM be next?
One might also ask if Boeing will be next.
My opinion is that it's more likely we'd see a Raygun-style pressuring of the union in this case, on the grounds of nashunal suhcurity, than outright nationalization. (You may recall, there is no McDonnell Douglas or Rockwell anymore, they got absorbed into the Boeing borg.)
owed more on it than got back selling it? sounds like Arbusto, Mark III
So it wasn't really a lie to say she made a profit.
It is so completely laughable to offer this up as an accomplishment. Locally it was a symbolic political statement against a former administration, I'll accept that.
do corporate jets depreciate 22% in one year? inquiring minds want to know.
Probably not. More importantly, that jet was used to transport prisoners to - ta-da! - Arizona, where the Alaskan govt has an overflow punishment center. The cost of transport was significantly less using that jet than it is now, using the Marshall's transport. Sooooooo, basically showboating and false economy, all the way down the line.
The restaurant where I had dinner last night, Little Mexico, which is about a half mile from my house, burnt to the ground!
How did that happen?
GWPDA
Fire, probably.
How did that happen?
It was an older building. Some speculation is that it started on the 2nd floor in the air conditioning unit.
It just freaks me out. A couple of years ago, a bar right next to the building burned down, too.
I was supposed to start meeting my best friends there on Monday nights, starting on the 8th. Maybe we're not supposed to be getting together.
,jac
The overpaid executives' network - too Republican to fail?
to be fair, palin was very careful not to say she sold the plane on ebay. she said she "put it on ebay" which is true. and i never heard her claim she made a profit (maybe she did, but i didn't hear it)
it was grandpa mcthuselah (who doesn't knoe what ebay is) that said she sold it there at a profit. i wonder if palin cringed when he added that line.
My opinion is that it's more likely we'd see a Raygun-style pressuring of the union in this case, on the grounds of nashunal suhcurity, than outright nationalization. (You may recall, there is no McDonnell Douglas or Rockwell anymore, they got absorbed into the Boeing borg.)
yes, I want pissed off union guys, or better yet non-union guys, building the planes I fly on. Nothing gives me more security than that.
Another fact about the plane. It wasn't just for the governor. The state used it to fly prisoners out of state. Palin said she would buy Public Safety another plane for that.
How did that happen?
Food was too hot.
sounds like Arbusto, Mark III
In Texas, that's Ar-BUST-o, fella! 
Get together near a pool or fountain.
Not seeing any McCain bumper stickers in my country of western Washington state. Zero. Used to see a few "W" stickers. Not anymore. zero.
Sorta stunning when I think about it.
Are you a card carrying troll??
I hope you are not a scab troll.
Trool Help Line | 09.06.08 - 10:41 am | #
I am my local's steward I'll have you know.
New GOP Spin: Palin's Not Ready
Todd Harris, a GOP strategist who is close to the McCain campaign, says Palin won't be available to the press for about two weeks. His defense? She might make "a mistake."
The quote:
"If she goes out and makes a mistake, that is something that [voters will] care about, and that's something that will haunt [McCain] for awhile, so I think this is a smart move."
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/09...-not-
ready.html
Get together near a pool or fountain.
plantsman
Good advice.
2008 is the Year of Languages, which the United States acclaimed at the United Nations. What did Amuraka do other that set Lou Dobbs on those greasy Spanish folks? Name one thing.
Todd Harris, a GOP strategist who is close to the McCain campaign, says Palin won't be available to the press for about two weeks. His defense? She might make "a mistake."
but she can be VP tomorrow.
Fucking idiots
do corporate jets depreciate 22% in one year? inquiring minds want to know.
dirk gently,sociopathetic
One explanation might be the explosion in fuel costs. I understand that some airlines are mothballing and parking their MD-80s in favor of 747s, since the MD-80s are now just too expensive to fly with their shitty gas mileage.
Something similar could be going on here is she had a real fuel hog on her hands.
More importantly, that jet was used to transport prisoners to - ta-da! - Arizona, where the Alaskan govt has an overflow punishment center.
i didn't know that, but i knew there was something she was dropping.
mrs g pointed out last night that if ANY state needs a govt jet, it's alaska.
You can get bilingual telephone assistance from my Oregon Power utility.
Morning, all.
Governor Mooselini is toast.
Feels good...
but she can be VP tomorrow.
Fucking idiots
Supreme Commander Thor
And Preznit the day after. Idiots doesn't quite cover it...
How dare you doubt the veracity of a Vietman POW.
Republican Health Care Plan : Sell your private jet.
In Texas, that's Ar-BUST-o, fella!
montag
No me gusto Jorge Arbusto.
I understand that some airlines are mothballing and parking their MD-80s in favor of 747s, since the MD-80s are now just too expensive to fly with their shitty gas mileage.
melior
I can't think of anyone replacing MD-80s (a pretty small aircraft with 3-2 seating) with 747s (much bigger, obviously).
And 747s get pretty shitty gas mileage.
Most airlines are parking both when they can in favor of 757s, 767, 777s, and later Airbus.
United is eliminating 747s on domestic routes entirely. A 767 costs way less to fly.
You'll need a long piece of paper to write down all the "fucking idiots" that will accept that rationale - good to know though that she will be MISTAKE FREE in just two weeks...too bad that couldn't have worked for "W"...
Also, the state has a fleet of small aircraft available for the governor's use. This one was actually useful for the prisoner transfers.
New GOP Spin: Palin's Not Ready
Unstated GOP spin: Anyone can be Vice President by spending time with a copy of Vice Presidenting for Dummies.
Further GOP spin: The people who screwed up the last 8 years are adequate to train their replacements.
As far as I know, NAFTA makes it illegal to nationalize a private company.
Number 7 troll
Repost:
I can't believe Vice Presidential Nominee Sarah Palin said, "Sambo beat the bitch" when Obama beat Clinton, but she did.
Here's one I just made up --
The Palins = Igloo Oakies.
Thank you, I'm here all week...
And while you are checking out the latest news week, notice the cover on the dead tree edition. Palin wears that gargantuan diamond, ruby, and sapphire flag pin.
Good god, that thing is a true icon of 8 years of a corrupt Republican administration.
Palin said she would buy Public Safety another plane for that.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 09.06.08 - 10:44 am | #
i can't remember wich repub talking head on cnn said it, but she said "mccain and palin will cut budgets and reduce taxes and that is the core of any economic plan
which just goes to show how little they (or their zombie followers) understand economics.
i wonder if the zombies know that when palin cut taxes in wasilla, she cut PROPERTY taxes, and increased SALES TAX (including food) to make up the loss. shifting the burden down the economic scale.
Steve, I don't know if she's toast. I think she stays on the ticket.
As far as I know, NAFTA makes it illegal to nationalize a private company.
[Cheney]
Fuck agreements! Where's my money?
[/Cheney]
Unstated GOP spin: Anyone can be Vice President by spending time with a copy of Vice Presidenting for Dummies.
i've never heard lieberman called that before.
i like it.
Morning, all.
Governor Mooselini is toast.
Feels good...
steve hüssein® simels
I hope so, but I don't see it.
Further GOP spin: The people who screwed up the last 8 years are adequate to train their replacements.
Falstaff | 09.06.08 - 10:48 am | #
Those are paste jewels, I'd wager. Big, gaudy, tacky, sparkly.
Thank you, I'm here all week...
steve hüssein® simels | Homepage | 09.06.08 - 10:49 am | #
That's worth another fifty bucks to me. Bringing my total to one-hundred bucks today.
American Airlines is replacing MD-80s with 737s.
I seem to remember they get about 30% better mileage, which is a substantial part of operational cost.
Steverino, you ever review Cloverfield? And if so, should I go read it, seeing as how I thought it sucked large?
Plantsperson, gotta linky for us sleepy peeps? Or did I miss it?
I made up "Scarah."
It works for me.
And Xena the Caribou Bratz Doll Meets Tammy Faye Bakker.
do corporate jets depreciate 22% in one year? inquiring minds want to know.
Airplanes, in general, do not wear out like cars and boats because the environment they operate in (mid-air) is not particularly abusive.
Once again, Vicki and I are in agreement. And Vicki is (nearly) always right.
And Alaska Airlines too.
Those are paste jewels, I'd wager. Big, gaudy, tacky, sparkly.
plantsman
Don't be so sure - her $20 million dollar Wasilla deficit had to come from somewhere...
It's a link to a yahoo news article on the thread below.
If we are going to have a troll help line I would think we would need someone to lead it that knows how to spell troll.
Steve, I don't know if she's toast. I think she stays on the ticket.
McCain is the one who is toast.
He said his only criteria for a VP was that they be ready to be prez on day 1. Now he has to send his advisers to school Palin on issues.
She's made the big time but he looks like a doddering old fool not in charge of his campaign.
Palin wears that gargantuan diamond, ruby, and sapphire flag pin.
plantsman johnson is right! A WalMart holiday special if ever there was one.
Okay, apologies for the blogwhore, but over at Box Office, I rave about the new Criterion DVD of Max Ophuls brilliant Welles-ian chick flick "The Earrings of Madame de..." Plus: we nominate the coolest Period Costume Movies ever, and there's an incredible but true story about the coat Frank Morgan wore as "The Wizard of Oz."
http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...ecial-clo-
1.php
Seriously -- if you could see your way to going over there and leaving a comment, it would not irk me in the least.
Further GOP spin: The people who screwed up the last 8 years are adequate to train their replacements.
Falstaff | 09.06.08 - 10:48 am | #
and write their speeches.
did everyone catch the daily show last night?
clips of bush 2000 campaign promises almost word for word matching mccain 2008 promises.
it was tres funny, and should be an obama ad.
Each Alaskan is getting a just-over $2,000 oil royalty check this year -- you know, like it was supposed to work for the Iraqis, but didn't.
She's made the big time but he looks like a doddering old fool not in charge of his campaign.
Snow (D-SC)
You speak as a member of the reality-based community. Which is all well and good, but bear in mind most Americans don't come from there.
Airplanes, in general, do not wear out like cars and boats
actually, i know that. it was more or less a rhetorical question.
"inquring minds want to know" should become a democratic rallying call. apparently the only place investigative journalists can find work anymore is with the tabloids, and they are all slavering to get assigned to a REAL investigation.
Those are paste jewels, I'd wager. Big, gaudy, tacky, sparkly..... and very republican. They'd go well with a Nixonian cloth coat.
And Vicki is (nearly) always right.
Adam, I don't know about that, but one thing about me, when I'm wrong or post information that isn't entirely accurate, I always try to correct it ASAP. I'd rather apologize and get it right than have a reputation as an uninformed ass.
There's so much info out there that it's sometimes hard to discern the integrity of the source.
As far as I know, NAFTA makes it illegal to nationalize a private company.
passerby
is this true? and the 5 trillion previously mentioned, part of the national debt? Were there better options?
I'm Canadian and naturally okay with massive monopolies being privatized - to the benefit of the many of course
Some environments are more abusive than others. I am sure the Hawaii Airlines stewardess who got sucked out of a plane probably has an opinion on this.
clips of bush 2000 campaign promises almost word for word matching mccain 2008 promises.
it was tres funny, and should be an obama ad.
dirk gently,sociopathetic
The Republican Party has been selling the same turd since AT LEAST 1980. Against all wisdom, they keep polishing it, and it keeps working.
No wonder the neighborhood smells like smoke this morning.
I must have slept like a log, I didn't hear a thing.
Each Alaskan is getting a just-over $2,000 oil royalty check this year -- you know, like it was supposed to work for the Iraqis, but didn't.
plantsman | 09.06.08 - 10:53 am | #
no, that is more like each BASRAN getting a royalty check.
b/c the rest of this country is paying into the windfall taxes and getting squat back. hey, it's alaska's oil, not ours!
also, according to cnn (who checked w/ the broker) the jet was valued at 2.8mill and sold for 2.1mill
It really appears that the entire proffered narrative defining Sarah Palin is a lie, and that everything about Obama that has and will come out of her mouth is a Damned Lie. And she thinks that she is immune from being called on this utterly reprehensible, cynical strategy because any attempt to expose it will be denounced as rank sexism by her and an army of surrogates. In short, she is opening up on us with an A-K and then trying to duck behind her own skirts. We can't let her do it, and if the media lets her do it, they will be personally responsible for the collapse of human civilization.
U6 owls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Each Alaskan is getting a just-over $2,000 oil royalty check this year -- you know, like it was supposed to work for the Iraqis, but didn't.
plantsman | 09.06.08 - 10:53 am | #
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Hell, let organize those fucks. I propose an Obama benefit in Amman at $2,000 a person, with a really decent Elvis impersonator.
Here's one I just made up --
I'd start calling her Nanooky, but that would be sexist and immature.
Then again, she does have 5 kids...
sheets
Snow, he only looks that way to US...those syncophants at the convention and around MERICA all see a brave, POW who is a "Mavrick" and has chosen a BABE to be our next VP...you know like everyone wanted to have a beer with "W"...I'm imagining what they's like to do with SCARAH (sorry, I love that)....at least she'll be mistake free in that area...
Okay! A good friend of ours has showed up. Maybe now we can play.
We are not sure if we need a troll help line but we welcome trool help line's friendship. We will accept his/hers help.
from "Great Moments In Alaska History"
Wasilla,Alaska 1993...........Toilet paper is discovered in Slims General Store.
it was tres funny, and should be an obama ad.
dirk gently,sociopathetic
If it isn't, I will be very disappointed.
There's so much info out there that it's sometimes hard to discern the integrity of the source.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
And I would guess that like me, you spend some time talking to co-workers and other people outside the reality based community.
It's dirty work, and frightening, which is why I think a fair number of the people here have closed up into affinity groups of like-minds.
But they make the mistake of thinking that's all there is.
To my mind, the thing that could beat McCain is the economy, or his own health. Palin doesn't seem to be hurting him much, and is generating a lot of enthusiasm among the millions of true believers, whose votes he also needs.
If we are going to have a troll help line I would think we would need someone to lead it that knows how to spell troll.
Number 7 troll
You obviously are not counting on the fact that it is a voluntary public service type of job. You only get what you pay for...
Snow, he only looks that way to US...those syncophants at the convention and around MERICA all see a brave, POW who is a "Mavrick" and has chosen a BABE to be our next VP...you know like everyone wanted to have a beer with "W"...
Dancer
Yep.
If we are going to have a troll help line I would think we would need someone to lead it that knows how to spell troll.
Number 7 troll
Quit picking on our union president. We are supposed to stick together, not fight in front of the audience.
Airplanes, in general, do not wear out like cars and boats because the environment they operate in (mid-air) is not particularly abusive.
If followed FAA mandated maintenance procedures also make planes last a long time.
If you take care of an automobile that way, you'll get much longer product life. Assuming of course you don't live in the rust belt where salt or other corrosive chemicals is used on the roads.
If we are going to have a troll help line I would think we would need someone to lead it that knows how to spell troll.
That could be the reason why not to many people use the service.
I just don’t get the republican philosophy. They are always harping about big government, getting the government “off our backs” (and into the bathtub), “let the markets work”, etc. But it seems like every de-regulation leads to eventual bigger government – which of course is less efficient and more costly then before de-regulation. They wanted de-regulation on Wall Street, which resulted in massive bailouts (of the rich). They wanted de-regulation of the mortgage industry, which is now wrecking our economy and growing government. They wanted to privatize parts of the government, and we get Halliburton. They don’t want universal health care, and taxpayers end up footing the emergency room bills. I’ve always thought that you really don’t have to be “liberal” to be a liberal – you might just be interested in long-term cost effectiveness.
GM has a presence in China and make cars there.
The mortgage guys not so much.
Who needs a soveeign wealth fund when you have the US Treasury?
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