I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Plink!
.
Doink!
I just checked a moment ago...
Look at him go.
.
Plonk!
BOING
Bonk! Bonk! On the head!
.
We can has thread! And eatage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h?
v=h45WnW0ASFY
doan worry, I woan drop nobody in a crevasse this time
but I might feed U 2 a supergator
Supergator not first? Supergator ANGRY!
Thank G-d, a new posting to make us all think about important things. Thank you echidne.
BTW does your name rhyme with a kidney?
Chances are, you saw this already, so no need to click
.
Well, this thread has gotten off to a... start.
Supergator, lighten up.
You gots bigger teeth than anyone here.
Except maybe the Sharks.
this island has 2 many volcano watchers they are all dangerous
??
BTW does your name rhyme with a kidney?
Bad Art
Yas.
NTodd is a fucking Wonker of the highest order.
That is all.
Good night, batses! Sarah, if you're out there, we're praying for you.
"I was never convicted of those charges!"
Where is Kelly McGillis?
Jeffraham, looks like your kittehs are long and low, too.
echidne,
Thou art goddess. Did you see that Mad Melancholic Feminista had her baby?
No doubt about ONE entry in Keith's "Worst Person In The World" for Monday.
Fox Noise calls Mr. Rogers "Evil".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h?
v=n44WCUKIK2Y
Those damn Sharks get a whole week on the Discovery Channel, and what does Supergator get? Cheapo tv movie on Sci-Fi! Supergator ANGRY!!
Zod forgives you all.....
"I was never convicted of those charges!"
Sallyh
Story of my life.
live, w/out the bleeps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...related&
search=
If pronounced properly, my name actually rhymes with "sad fart"!!!
Isn't that interesting?
ANYONE But a Republican in '08!
Fox Noise calls Mr. Rogers "Evil".
They get more and more ridiculous.
Sallyh: Jeffraham, looks like your kittehs are long and low, too.
I've got one that's so needy today, it's damn near annoying.
.
wuz that Kelly McGillis with the short hair? if so, it appears making out with Tom Cruise prematurely aged her.
Those damn Sharks get a whole week on the Discovery Channel, and what does Supergator get? Cheapo tv movie on Sci-Fi! Supergator ANGRY!!
Supergator
Come on in, Samsonite.
JR, reminds me of my favorite passage in 'Chasing Amy:'
"Bitch pressing charges? Yeah, I get that a lot."
Bonk! Bonk! On the head!
Blah blah blah...
Jeffraham, was it your brown male tab?
Mikey has been unbelievably obnoxious.
Watching fox news videos gives me the heebee jeebees.
I got stung by fire ants the other day.
I had no idea that fire ant stings cause pustules, until the following day. Gross.
Todd.
So white.
So New England.
So sure of himself.....
Did you see that Mad Melancholic Feminista had her baby?
Yes, it was lovely. Another little Maddy.
That gator grew too big, too fast, and became resistant to their tranquilizers.
Just like NTodd
"The rest of 'em are out chasing business students who treat 'em like crap!"
Sirius Satellite Radio: Leftists ain't patriots!
If I'm not misstaken, Kelly McGillis had a little bout with cancer and some chemo. So no making fun of her looks.
Uh, and oh yeah, Supergator ANGRY!
I like the white buildings in New England town centers, especially against green in the summer.
Todd.
NTodd.
So white.
Yup, I'm caucasian.
So New England.
Congrats! You know Vermont is in the region called New England!
So sure of himself.....
Why shouldn't I be?
So I'm watching this convention of Atheists on C-Span tonight and a thought occurred to me:
Why get together?
Isn't that like going to church?
Is there a problem with being white and being from New England?
Yes, it was lovely. Another little Maddy.
Hope she doesn't turn out to be a mutant like my Maddie.
"Bitch pressing charges? Yeah, I get that a lot."
Sallyh for Hussein
This comes to mind.
Jennifer,
Oh, ouch!
Zod, I am crushing your head.
Sallyh: Jeffraham, was it your brown male tab?
No; the other li'l guy. He's spent practically the entire day trying to be in physical contact with me, or mewling piteously when that's not been possible (such as when I was in the shower).
Mikey has been unbelievably obnoxious.
Curly's all but given up trying to compete -- he knows I'll seek him out when L.E. is sleeping. 
.
4Legs, your Maddy is lovely.
My Maddy is also
We need more Maddys.
From behind the firewall, New Modo (Rich will be here in a moment)
http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...s20001/
modo.htm
If I'm not misstaken, Kelly McGillis had a little bout with cancer and some chemo. So no making fun of her looks.
Okay, just surprised.
The conservative channel is called "SIRIUS Patriot."
SIRIUS Fascist would be more accurate.
Supergator, I'm guessing you won't be eating Kelly.
4Legs, your Maddy is lovely.
Yes, she's beautiful, but she grew some more this week.
Is there a problem with being white and being from New England?
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
If you're not a cod, I'd say you have a fairly even shot.
Dumb teenaged boys pulling out snot.
NTodd, if you ever get to Rutland on your tour, take a picture of 27 Terrill Street. I'd be interested to see if it's still standing.
I lived there for nine years, taking care of an increasingly Alzheimer's afflicted mother, until the nursing home by the Rutland hospital was the only recourse.
The guy that should be living there now, Ray Blanchard, is a convicted sex offender, so try not to get anywhere near him. He's a sleazy little shit. Sold my mother a roach infested house with a collapsing foundation.
4Legs, so did mine
If pronounced properly, my name actually rhymes with "sad fart"!!!
Isn't that interesting?
Bad Art
I knew a guy named Rick Creth in college, who made the mistake of saying something rude to my quick-witted roommate, who observed, in front of a room full of his friends, that his name rhymed with "Dick Breath".
And here is Frank Rich
http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...s20001/
rich.htm
Is there a problem with being white and being from New England?
So long as you aren't caught fishing in Canadian waters.
No; the other li'l guy. He's spent practically the entire day trying to be in physical contact with me, or mewling piteously when that's not been possible (such as when I was in the shower).
Siamese can get real clingy.
If you're not a cod, I'd say you have a fairly even shot.
MP
Kneel before Cod!!.
(wait that doesn't work)
Jeffraham, Mlle's cat is like that. Once the baby's asleep, he's all over her.
Siamese can get real clingy.
Terry C
Mine's being clingy.
I've informed him that he gets no sleeping with the boss priviledges until he presents me with a dead mouse.
supergator has a microchip
no wonder he's mad
Zod, I am crushing your head.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
for the follower of a kooky religion, I appreciate the fact that you can "crush my head". Fuck you, and fuck your stupid
religion, bitch.
Does that make me lower than you? We will see, twat.
Siamese can get real clingy.
So can maine coons.
Oy.
The tape I saw of Osama wasn't translated.
It just has him going humina humina.
Rosario Dawson....Mmmmm
http://img73.imageshack.us/
img73...86871028ng9.jpg
NTodd, if you ever get to Rutland on your tour, take a picture of 27 Terrill Street. I'd be interested to see if it's still standing.
I have to get to Rutland eventually, or I'll never get my L'il Orphan Annie 251 Club Decoder Ring! I will make a note of 27 Terrill. Seriously. I'm always interested in places that mean something to people I know.
Oh great, one troll and one and a half irks on the thread.
Does that make me lower than you? We will see, twat.
General Zod
You're Leninski.
Speaking of cats -- the other day, when I saw Xena across the lawn & called to her, she came running to me -- I can't imagine what made her forget herself like that!
And good night!
Does that make me lower than you?
That makes you lower than just about everything.
Including maggots.
If I could gently dissuade L.E. of his firm conviction that I need constant grooming, that would be a big plus.
.
Been watching "The Fog of War".
The hair on the back of my neck has been tingling over the similarities.
Standing the kitchen listening you realize oh yeah that's Kelly McGillis. Using the same tone of voice she used talking to Cruise of about the MIG
Oh, great. I see Draco is having yet another meltdown.
Sad, really.
So was the blog post written using LOLCat? http://globalnerdy.com/2007/05/2...mming-language/
I'm always interested in places that mean something to people I know.
If you get down to Springfield, stop in and say hi to my mom and dad and aunt. Tell em, we're trying to get some money together to pay for their gas here on their way home in the fall.
Just a general comment, but cloning extinct predators and releasing them into the wild is never a good idea.
Zod,
You sure do jump when we say how high.
Yeah, my religion is strange. 
The flaw in your argument on net neutrality is in the wishful thinking of how access to tiers of service will be sold and what interest the carriers have in content control. In particular, you write
-
Anytime a provider has done bad things, such as blocking VoIP phone calls from a competitor, the FCC slapped them down with current regulations. That won't change.
--
But that's assuming the conclusion. Without net neutrality, what stops AT&T from signing a preferred provider contract with Murdoch? What prevents them from making the fee to offer e.g. crooks and liars level service too high to make commercial sense. The reason we have common carrier regulation of phone service is to prevent carriers from using the monopoly control of the last mile wire s to control commerce on the lines. The market does not assure competition without such regulation.
rootless2, tumbling | 07.14.07 - 9:35 pm | #
Just a general comment, but cloning extinct predators and releasing them into the wild is never a good idea.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
How's the eatage?
If I could gently dissuade L.E. of his firm conviction that I need constant grooming, that would be a big plus.
IT TICKLES!!!
Supergator, I'm guessing you won't be eating Kelly.
If this is like other SciFi Channel movies, she will probably kill me in the last act.
Here's a better link for lolcode:
http://lolcode.com/
Standing the kitchen listening you realize oh yeah that's Kelly McGillis. Using the same tone of voice she used talking to Cruise of about the MIG
Yah.
Actually she doesn't look too bad. I wuz just expecting her to be the hot science babe.
Instead she's the evil scientist.
Oh great, one troll and one and a half irks on the thread.
JR, kerosene and a match
Billy Hays would throw in the Orange-Glo Handi-Glove, if you call right now.
Instead she's the evil scientist.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
He's gonna eat her then.
Just a general comment, but cloning extinct predators and releasing them into the wild is never a good idea.
You are referring to the Cheneyopterus?
Rutland is also the home of Edgewood Productions, who made all those awful disaster films where a small town named "Rutland" would get destroyed by meteors or landslides, or, my favorite, when the dam burst and flooded the city.
The last movie that Anna Nicole Smith made was filmed there, as well.
Just a general comment, but cloning extinct predators and releasing them into the wild is never a good idea.
fourlegsgood
What?
*scraps dinofelis DNA recovery project*
"of his firm conviction that I need constant grooming"
I am sure there is a study out there that will show you that being covered in kitty spit has health advantages.
Anyone see the article about cats purr at the same freq that they use to heal bones in humans?
Zod, I am crushing your head.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Oh, wait, since that was an "ATRIOT" I guess that was OK, huh?
Maybe the rest of you can get into a circle, do a chant , and beg my forgiveness. Or do whatever you do.
I guess I must be the only one that finds it a little ridiculous that you people make fun of certain religions, while at the same time you slurp on people like Hecate........ funny,,huh?
Anyone see the article about cats purr at the same freq that they use to heal bones in humans?
citation?
You want to know why it is a bad idea to build wiretapping into internet and telecom equipment?
Check out this long article about Rogue Wiretapping: The Athens Affair
Koronias told them that rogue software used the lawful wiretapping mechanisms of Vodafone's digital switches to tap about 100 phones and handed over a list of bugged numbers. Besides the prime minister and his wife, phones belonging to the ministers of national defense, foreign affairs, and justice, the mayor of Athens, and the Greek European Union commissioner were all compromised. Others belonged to members of civil rights organizations, peace activists, and antiglobalization groups; senior staff at the ministries of National Defense, Public Order, Merchant Marine, and Foreign Affairs; the New Democracy ruling party; the Hellenic Navy general staff; and a Greek-American employee at the United States Embassy in Athens.
Suggested Democratic strategy: Ask "Where's Osama Bin Laden?" Repeat frequently. That'll be $5,000.
Bare midriff alert!
I read this article this morning and recommended it to the morning crew. If you have not had a chance to look at it, you might want to take a moment or bookmark it for later. It is actually pretty damned good writing and the reporter (even though he is from the WaPo) is starting to understand the danger that the President is courting.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
I guess I must be the only one that finds it a little ridiculous that you people make fun of certain religions, while at the same time you slurp on people like Hecate........ funny,,huh?
General Zod
Step over into that particle chamber.
Suggested Democratic strategy: Ask "Where's Osama Bin Laden?" Repeat frequently. That'll be $5,000.
I can haz bin Laden?
"He's like a gator, he's totally huge!"
Anyone see the article about cats purr at the same freq that they use to heal bones in humans?
No, but if you can find a link, I'd be tres interested. When my ankle was broken, Miss Thing would insist on positioning herself on top of the cast and purring up a storm.
Wow, great editing.
and acting.
and screenwriting.
Bare midriff alert!
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Boooiinng!
"
citation?
spinoza "
Gimme a few, it passed in front of my nose the other on paper.
guess I must be the only one that finds it a little ridiculous that you people make fun of certain religions, while at the same time you slurp on people like Hecate........ funny,,huh?
General Zod
"You people", smegma breath?
Zod, I am crushing your head.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Suck my dick, bitch. fuck you and all of your friends.
"do you think I'm high? I'm not high. Are you?"
I think Bush and Cheney should be staked to a fire ant mound before being carted to the guillotine.
Just kidding of course.
Not really.
DWD - Education Geek | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 9:45 pm | #
That pic is heartbreaking.
Now watch this drive...
Best.
Eatage.
Ever.
I wasn't aware that we "slurped on" anyone.
Eatage! Bleedage! Chompage!
Don't laugh at my wee wee!
you people make fun of certain religions
Usually only those who're hellbent on convincing me that theirs is the only way to go (and Hecate has never once tried anything so idiotic).
.
This must be that groupthink moment I've heard so much about.
Ommmmmmmm.
JR, kerosene and a match
sorry pud. you need to go.
But that's assuming the conclusion.
No, I'm not. I'm assuming that existing regulation will prevent the bad things that the Sky Is Falling crowd says are "guaranteed" to happen.
Without net neutrality, what stops AT&T from signing a preferred provider contract with Murdoch? What prevents them from making the fee to offer e.g. crooks and liars level service too high to make commercial sense.
Before I answer, you need to clarify what your term "preferred provider" means, and clarify the Crooks and Liars example. Because right now the way you describe them, neither of those has any bearing on NN.
The reason we have common carrier regulation of phone service is to prevent carriers from using the monopoly control of the last mile wire s to control commerce on the lines.
This isn't about the last mile. This is about transport within the network.
The market does not assure competition without such regulation.
Such regulation already exists.
Bottom line: people are scared of "discrimination" because Google, et al, have used a word that is not used in a technical sense, but can have a specific technical meaning, and they don't want to pay for a higher level of service. To provide QoS, "discrimination," or rather categorization, is necessary if you're going to run multiple applications with different network requirements over a common infrastructure.
Wow, great editing.
and acting.
and screenwriting.
Interesting camera choices as well.
Oh, wait, since that was an "ATRIOT" I guess that was OK, huh?
Maybe the rest of you can get into a circle, do a chant , and beg my forgiveness. Or do whatever you do.
Dude. You are completely losing it. In public. It's embarassing.
Suck my dick, bitch. fuck you and all of your friends.
I thought that dick sucking was supposed to be an act of mutually shared enjoyment and love.
Jennifer:
Don't forget the honey.
Don't laugh at my wee wee!
shorter zod
We say tinkle here.
The reason we have common carrier regulation of phone service is to prevent carriers from using the monopoly control of the last mile wire s to control commerce on the lines.
As soon as a carrier stops being a common carrier they become legally responisble for the content.
Suck my dick, bitch. fuck you and all of your friends.
General Zod
do you any of u doods have a thimble i can borrow
Next we're going to have to kneel before him.
Suck my dick, bitch. fuck you and all of your friends.
General Zod
Aw...sad clown. Come here, you big gay tranny.
I guess I must be the only one that finds it a little ridiculous that you people make fun of certain religions, while at the same time you slurp on people like Hecate........ funny,,huh?
Nope, we make fun of people who are so convinced we're going to hell that they tell us on a regular basis. Oddly, Hecate never tried to turn me into a newt or anything, so I don't begrudge her religion.
you need to go.
General Zod
try it.
I hope supergator eats that young dood next he'z annoying
I wish I could stay and prove how inferior you low-level mudbeings really are, but it's time for Mommy's bunion massage.
How I LOVE Saturday nights!
This ex-BBC leftist explains the willful ignorance of the left and how it uses this mindset to manipulate and distort the truth..
...seriously...read it all...
...another one in from the darkness..
...the truth really will set one free...
General Zod | 07.14.07 - 9:46 pm
Tell me again about how Eschaton has the bestest TrOoLz...
Jennifer,
Does aloe help? Benadryl? Sounds bad. Were they in someplace that you were renovating?
Suck my dick, bitch. fuck you and all of your friends.
General Zod
The good general then puked, and passed out on the dais.
Most true patriots seldom refer to themselves as such.
On the other hand, most people who revel in the ostentations of patriotism do so because they worship the symbols. They are the perfect subjects for fascist rule.
Oddly, Hecate never tried to turn me into a newt or anything, so I don't begrudge her religion.
NTodd Sobchak
You'd just get better anyway.
Isn't net neutrality a moot debate, because the congress has already said they were going to do nothing about it? Or was it the FCC?
Speaking of witches, I am now officially prepared for the Hermione Granger movie tomorrow, having rewatched the first four movies this evening.
Jeffraham Prestonian
It's easy to be one of the little puds that like to pile on, isn't it?
When will you ever do something for yourself? You are a joke. dude.
Assrocket declares the Obama campaign over.
Usually only those who're hellbent on convincing me that theirs is the only way to go (and Hecate has never once tried anything so idiotic).
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
How can you be sure? She may have put a spell on you.
...the truth really will set one free...
liberal jeenyus
I suppose that explains the chronic constipation that has left you full of shit.
At least my wee wee is 3 inches, not 2! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
When will you ever do something for yourself? You are a joke. dude.
General Zod
Pick on me, dingleberry.
When will you ever do something for yourself?
Beg pardon?
.
Speaking of witches, I am now officially prepared for the Hermione Granger movie tomorrow, having rewatched the first four movies this evening.
NTodd
This is where I remind everyone that age of consent here is 14.
*ducks*
The market does not assure competition without such regulation.
Such regulation already exists.
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Where? As I understand it the FCC has ruled that internet connectivity is not subject to common carrier regulations.
Your toll road example is good. The reason we don't have toll roads deciding that United Van Lines gets on faster, runs faster, and pays lower weight is because of a common carrier law that derive from the railroad regulations put in to stop Rockefeller from such practices.
So what's the regulatory, and better, unwaivable legal, basis which assures such carrier content neutrality?
so I don't begrudge her religion.
I don't begrudge anyone their religion. Prey to anything you like. Just don't bug me about it.
U R trespassing
wow, what's Zod doing in this flick?
Isn't net neutrality a moot debate, because the congress has already said they were going to do nothing about it? Or was it the FCC?
Congress has shot down every amendment that tries to deny providers the right to charge for higher levels of service. The FCC and the FTC have determined that they already have the authority to prevent providers from blocking or degrading content/apps.
So yes, it is moot in a sense. Yet people keep screaming about "saving the Internet" as though it's going to collapse on Tuesday. It ain't. Not from a technical, regulatory or economic POV, despite what Google says.
NTodd Sobchak |
Ummm, I need to go and sleep for those 2 hours that Atrios lets me stay away....... Christ, but I am a slave to this blog. What could you expect from a nappy boy like me? later.....
Prey to anything you like.
I'd prefer to prey on things.
Hecate - they really only hurt for about the first 30 minutes - hour after being stung. But then they form pustules, which I am given to understand are ok so long as you don't scratch them open and get them infected. Since they don't itch, this isn't a problem. But they are ugly as hell and supposedly take several weeks to go away.
I've already spoken with the client about the need to engage the services of an exterminator for the wide variety of pests on the property. One thing's for sure: I won't be going out there again in open shoes, though the worst bites are on my legs.
Stern brought up something interesting about the Hannity radio show. He was on last year and said that Hannity has instant messaging and gets additional info to challenge callers.
This is where I remind everyone that age of consent here is 14.
Universal healthcare didn't convince me, but this news makes me want to emigrate.
These guys are total dorks. Prime eatage material.
I am now officially prepared for the Hermione Granger movie tomorrow
I really liked it. She's gorgeous. Luna is goregous. Minerva is magnificent. The special effects are great. I esp. loved the centaurs.
former gov Jim Gilmore and wanna be presidential candidate has dropped out
where is fat boy newtie? this can only be good news for him
1 - yur poachers ill have you killed
2 - dood im from the university of hawaii so fuck off
1- no way its teh wildlife refuge
2- no we have a pass - three days or 4 dead friendz whichever comes frist.
The smooth stylings of Rudy Guiliani:
"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again...as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority.. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority.."
Gomez | Homepage
Sorry, Flying Monkey - You want to be an Atrios stooge, move on to bigger blogs. asswipe.
4Legs, I want these dorks chomped.
Here is one reference with a .gov. So you know you can trust it. (cough)
Actually, I have seen this researcher before, but being a layman in almost everything, someone else will have to vouch for it's reliability.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/my...s/
catspurr.html
I also noticed that this is not new news when I was doing a search. The wife got the article from a woman mag. So MMV.
Excellent!
Head chompage!!
Universal healthcare didn't convince me, but this news makes me want to emigrate.
NTodd
And women can legally take their shirts off in public.
Where? As I understand it the FCC has ruled that internet connectivity is not subject to common carrier regulations.
In my post:
Kevin Martin, the FCC chairman, said during his portion of the keynote address that he believes the FCC's existing principles are sufficient to address problems that may arise should network operators block traffic.
"I think the FCC has authority to act," he said. "And it has done so in the past."
He is right on both counts.
4Legs, I want these dorks chomped.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 07.14.07 - 9:55 pm | #
Wish granted!!
This ex-BBC leftist explains the willful ignorance of the left and how it uses this mindset to manipulate and distort the truth..
...another one in from the darkness..
...the truth really will set one free...
liberal jeenyus
Would that be this Antony Jay?
Sir Antony Rupert Jay, CVO, (born 20 April 1930) was the co-author, with Jonathan Lynn of the successful British political comedies, Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister (1980-8
.
Sir Antony had a distinguished career as a broadcaster and in public relations, for which he was knighted. He also was producer for some years of Queen Elizabeth II's Christmas broadcasts, for which he was appointed a CVO. Jay was also a partner with John Cleese in the Video Arts training film production company.
Maybe he's having a go at you?
Guy 1: dood
Guy 2: oh wow dood
Guy 1: um dood
Guy 2: what dood
Guy 1: look behind u dood
Guy 2: oh noes dood ahhhh
[chomp]
And women can legally take their shirts off in public.
I'm outta here...
Sorry, Flying Monkey - You want to be an Atrios stooge, move on to bigger blogs. asswipe.
General Zod
I'm not giving up my check from Soros for anything, pal.
Freedom is about authority.."
Sweet Mother, please tell me that he didn't really say that.
This troll is silly.
The state department has ordered all their personnel to wear flak jackets in the green zone.
Mortar attacks are up.
[chomp]
Culture of TrÜth
*BURP*
Nice to see Bruce Fein following up on last night's excellent program.
.
Yeah, my religion is strange.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Hey, there's nothing in there about virgin births or angels bringing con men golden tablets.
THOSE religions are strange, not yours.
Sweet Mother, please tell me that he didn't really say that.
Hecate
War is Peace.
Freedom is ZSlavery.
And women can legally take their shirts off in public.
Jesus dood, do you own a fucking salt mine?
From before the entertaining poo-flinging and head-squishing, here's an article about cat purring and bone healing.
And bestest or suckiest, when TrOolZZ go into random gratuitous insult mode, they are just no fun.
Scroll on, mousie, scroll on...
THOSE religions are strange, not yours.
Terry C
They're all kinda strange, one way or another.
former gov Jim Gilmore and wanna be presidential candidate has dropped out
He was one of the worst governors the Commonwealth of Virginia ever endured.
"I think the FCC has authority to act," he said. "And it has done so in the past."
He is right on both counts.
NTodd Sobchak | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 9:56 pm | #
So the answer is: "up to the discretion of the FCC"?
But, in fact, the FCC continues to declare that information service is not subject to common carrier regulations. So, unless you have warm fuzzies about the likes of Martin deciding what is fair and balanced and what is not, you have a lot of room for skepticism.
Jesus dood, do you own a fucking salt mine?
smalfish
No, only significant shares in one.
Freedom is about authority.."
JulieAnnie is channeling Hitler.
Mortar attacks are up.
Thus, the surge is working.
In the future, I'll decide what's fair and balanced.
Maybe he's having a go at you?
Pez D. Spencer |
...no...read it all...especially the last page..
...it's an apology for his sins as a lying leftist media propaganda agent....
...
Possibly a better reference.
http://findarticles.com/p/articl...May/
ai_85131497
The smooth stylings of Rudy Guiliani:
"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again...as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority.. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority.."
Giuliani macht frei!
I gots me a Ripley in my lap.
Germinal dood
"Come with me to the luau and I'll tell you all about it."
But, in fact, the FCC continues to declare that information service is not subject to common carrier regulations. So, unless you have warm fuzzies about the likes of Martin deciding what is fair and balanced and what is not, you have a lot of room for skepticism.
According to the law, this guy has another 18 months in office. So far we've survived the FCC, and we can be sure whoever the dem president is, they will bring some solid, fair minded people to these agencies.
What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority.."
Shorter Rudy:
You are free to do what we fucking tell you to do.
"Come with me to the luau and I'll tell you all about it."
You just want an easy lei.
Giuliani macht frei!
spinoza
Mussolini II - Electric Boogaloo
Plunger handles for everyone.
Possibly a better reference.
EkCenTriK
That one is better, but it's missing a cute kitty picture.
No common carrier and the ISPs are liable for content.
Don't the ISPs understand the implications of that?
i>And women can legally take their shirts off in public.
I'm outta here...
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv
They can in NYC, too. I think there was a recent court ruling regarding that.
will the model live?
who told her to pose like that?
I'm outta here...
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv
They can in NYC, too. I think there was a recent court ruling regarding that.
Allie | 07.14.07 - 10:02 pm | #
While running through uncapped fire hydrants...
dork and model should *so* get together.
Another way Bush resembles a chimp (from article on new chimp sub-culture):
Prof Groves believes that the Bili apes should prompt a radical rethink of the family tree of chimp sub-species. He has proposed that primatologists should now recognise five different sub-divisions instead of the current four.
Mr Hicks said the animals also have what he calls a "smashing culture" - a blunt but effective way of solving problems. He has found hundreds of snails and hard-shelled fruits smashed for food, seen chimps carrying termite mounds to rocks to break them open and also found a turtle that was almost certainly smashed apart by chimps.
dood U run I'm hiding behind this tree
What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority.."
The preamble of the constitution says nothing we need to know about.
ok bad strategy dood
I want the model chomped.
Sorry, gentlemen.
So the answer is: "up to the discretion of the FCC"?
It's always been that way, yet the Internet has astonishingly worked very well.
But, in fact, the FCC continues to declare that information service is not subject to common carrier regulations. So, unless you have warm fuzzies about the likes of Martin deciding what is fair and balanced and what is not, you have a lot of room for skepticism.
Yet ISPs have been treated as common carriers when it comes to liability for content since Day One. It's not going to suddenly change just because carriers now want to add a new, optional, value-added service and charge for it.
As I noted at my telecom blog, I'm fine with legislation that explicitly codifies something along the lines of common carrier regs, so long as it doesn't limit the providers' right to charge for such services so they can recoup investment in the necessary infrastructure. It's redundant from where I sit, but not offensive.
The problem is that people think that categorizing traffic is inherently dangerous, and charging CONTENT PROVIDERS is somehow a sin. That's bullshit on many levels.
You can always be concerned when corporations are involved--they are not, as Adam Smith noted, not operating with society's best interests in mind. But the hyperbole around NN is fucking ignorant and ridiculous.
Freedom is about authority
Milk is about road tar.
Aren't crocodiles the dangerous ones?
Thanks melio....I actually read all of that. You're that cat's meow...um, I mean, purrrrr.
And yet, he's still here.
"he had a snack by the river."
I assume everyone knows they arrested a guy for advocating the First Amendment in Times Square.
dork and model should *so* get together.
their love wuz short but intense
quite beautiful, rly
Wouldn't this be a better movie if that was Dennis Hopper driving the boat?
former gov Jim Gilmore and wanna be presidential candidate has dropped out
He was one of the worst governors the Commonwealth of Virginia ever endured.
MP
Wasn't Macaca Allen governor of Virginia at one time?
I did such a good job on Mommy's bunions, she's letting me work on her corns!
And she promised me I could give her a sponge bath later. Did I mention I LOVE Saturday nights?
No common carrier and the ISPs are liable for content.
Um...no, they're NOT liable for 3rd party content.
What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can ... be anything they can be.
Fuckin' A! You gotta join the Army for that. They got yer authority, hangin'...
I want the model chomped.
Sorry, gentlemen.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
So do I, but with porn guitar music.
Sorry, Flying Monkey - You want to be an Atrios stooge, move on to bigger blogs. asswipe.
You continue to be indefensible.
Sad.
And yet, he's still here.
Context, you dumbfuck.
I assume everyone knows they arrested a guy for advocating the First Amendment in Times Square.
Really? when?
Fuck. WUt is the world coming to?
NTodd...
Please take yourself, your 47 blogs, your podcasts, and anything else and just go........ Christ, but you are a tiring pussy......
The other place in Rutland that has great meaning for me is this little discount grocery store in the Howe Center.
I called it the "Scratch and Dent Store", as they sold damaged goods, like dented cans, cereal in ripped boxes (inner bags intact!) torn and duct taped 20 pound bags of dog food, ect. As well as undamaged items as well. Meats, ice cream, milk, etc.
It was a bit a walk, particularly in the winter, but it kept me and the dog alive as I plotted and schemed to get out of Rutland after my mother went to the nursing home.
I have a soft spot in my heart for the old Scratch and Dent!
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:05 pm | #
What would we dooooo baby...Sha la la la
Goddamn, I've wasted my life.
They can in NYC, too. I think there was a recent court ruling regarding that.
Allie
Sooooo...whatcha doin aftah?
Where's O'Wanker's apology for his sins as a lying right wing media propaganda agent?
I assume everyone knows they arrested a guy for advocating the First Amendment in Times Square.
Dood.
I'm in yer constitutional grille
I busting away at ur free speech.
"That one is better, but it's missing a cute kitty picture.
melior"
I didn't have time to post one. I am lost in all the implications of what it means when a cat settles in your lap and starts purring like a buzz saw.
Wasn't Macaca Allen governor of Virginia at one time?
Terry C - End Bush's Reign Now
Yeah. The Rethugs loved him, cuz he brought nothing to the problem solving table other than being the son of a famous person. Sound familiar?
The problem is that people think that categorizing traffic is inherently dangerous, and charging CONTENT PROVIDERS is somehow a sin. That's bullshit on many levels.
NTodd
Where it could be a problem is charging content providers that provide the same type of content differently for the same service.
And yet, he's still here.
Context, you dumbfuck.
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv | Homepage |
sure, pal...... sure
Please take yourself, your 47 blogs, your podcasts, and anything else and just go........ Christ, but you are a tiring pussy......
General Zod | 07.14.07 - 10:06 pm | #
Zod, you are not wanted here.
So shut the fuck up and go way yourself.
How does one explain "No" means "No"?
The problem is that people think that categorizing traffic is inherently dangerous, and charging CONTENT PROVIDERS is somehow a sin. That's bullshit on many levels.
I'll be honest: the naivety of "techies", as a group, on just how big business works is not their most endearing trait... add in that psuedo-libertarian "it's YOUR fault you got screwed!" bullshit, and oy!...
We bought a crib for the baby tonight. Mrs. Trifecta is all emotional about the fact that he has outgrown the bassinet.
It's not like she has to assemble the crib so she should quit bitching. 
NTodd...
Please take yourself, your 47 blogs, your podcasts, and anything else and just go........ Christ, but you are a tiring pussy......
Why should I? Is this not a public space? What is your problem with people speaking their mind?
Fake Kristy Swanson has a topographical map on her computer!
"he was a snack by the river."
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Fixed it for you. *burp*
Gilly, when you spoke of being married to an untalented actress, this wouldn't be the woman who felt that in order to show you cared about her, she should be able to discuss her bowel movements at length with you?
How does one explain "No" means "No"?
Gilly Gonzylon
Alligators don't understand that.
I'll be honest: the naivety of "techies", as a group, on just how big business works is not their most endearing trait... add in that psuedo-libertarian "it's YOUR fault you got screwed!" bullshit, and oy!...
dave™© | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:08 pm | #
Best post of the day.
How does one explain "No" means "No"?
Tape it to a $100 bill. That's the only way to get some people to understand.
Don't the trolls have some fireworks to play with or something?
Um...no, they're NOT liable for 3rd party content.
NTodd
IIRC, it's a grey area.
trifecta, they never get smaller...
"From before the entertaining poo-flinging and head-squishing, here's an article about cat purring and bone healing."
Much better article, excellent find.
Wasn't Macaca Allen governor of Virginia at one time?
Terry C - End Bush's Reign Now
Yeah. The Rethugs loved him, cuz he brought nothing to the problem solving table other than being the son of a famous person. Sound familiar?
MP
And they rewarded his ineptitude by moving him from governor to US Senate.
That sounds familiar too.
ain't no malfunction dood
Do I need to read 233 comments to know what's happening? Is Bush still the resident-in-chief?
I'll be honest: the naivety of "techies", as a group, on just how big business works is not their most endearing trait... add in that psuedo-libertarian "it's YOUR fault you got screwed!" bullshit, and oy!...
I'm not just a techie. I've worked in the industry and teach about marketing, sales and regulation. I know exactly how big business works, thanks. But if you want to continue arguing from a position of ignorance, that's cool...
Can Fake Sam Neill and Fake Kristy Swanson save Fake Dennis Hopper and real Kelly McGillis??
trifecta, they never get smaller...
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Nicole Ritchie got smaller, but I think that was bulemia.
Please take yourself, your 47 blogs, your podcasts, and anything else and ju--
Don't you have bunions to massage?
'The carnage, the blown-up bodies I saw ... Why? What was this for?'
From the Guardian, a long series of interviews with ex-soldiers and Marines who served in Iraq. Sickening.
And yet, he's still here.
Context, you dumbfuck.
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv | Homepage |
sure, pal...... sure
General Zod | 07.14.07 - 10:07 pm | #
Dude, it was clearly referring to moving to Canada. Please do try to keep up.
I'll be honest: the naivety of "techies", as a group, on just how big business works is not their most endearing trait... add in that psuedo-libertarian "it's YOUR fault you got screwed!" bullshit, and oy!...
Aspergers and assholes, combined.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 07.14.07 - 10:09 pm | #
Why yes, Sally. And in the future, if choose to ever get involved in another relationship, I'd like to get this boundary quite clear (without poo).
I reside in a hot cactus and ocatillo desert.
This feels fine. 100 degree weather agrees with me as well as 20 below weather does. I do OK in both.
Sweet dreams, Moonbats.
Tomorrow morning, may you:
rememer and write down your dreams
pour romemary honey on your grapefruit.
spend time outside.
hear a brook burble
see one amazing thing.
...if you want to continue arguing from a position of ignorance, that's cool...
Well, it is my most endearing trait...!
Be thankful we have commerce, and be grateful for the table scraps our telecom lords so thoughtfully provide for us.
Zod, you are not wanted here.
So shut the fuck up and go way yourself.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
Well, since you get to decide who posts here and who doesn't, I'll take your opinion into consideration.........
The vote is in...... I'll keep posing.
The vote is in...... I'll keep posing.
General Zod
I suggest something french for the bikini competition.
The vote is in...... I'll keep posing.
Um...no, they're NOT liable for 3rd party content.
NTodd
IIRC, it's a grey area.
JR, kerosene and a match
Well, kinda. Common carriers are not liable for consequential damages, so there is a limit to what they might have to pay based on the cost of the carriage, but that's the extent of it.
LOL - zod, you've been fucking owwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnned !!!!
The vote is in...... I'll keep posing.
Lets get one of you with your ego.
So the answer is: "up to the discretion of the FCC"?
It's always been that way, yet the Internet has astonishingly worked very well.
---
Past performance is no assurance of future returns. In fact, the carriers, both wired and wireless, are eyeing the money to be made by controlling content like one eyed cats in seafood stores. And they are grimly determined not to be sellers of bandwidth - which is exactly what they should be required to remain.
It would be irresponsible for management of carriers to NOT attempt to control content, thus depriving shareholders of a massive new value. To argue that the good intentions and dubious reasoning of the FCC should be the only assurance of content neutrality is to jump into the same trap that let the TV and radio guys abolish the fairness doctrine.
Don't you have bunions to massage?
Ouchy.
Good night
I'm really glad I apparently don't have to worry about net neutrality any more. Not like I need things to worry about.
As to net neutrality, my view is that people using PCs should be taxed while people using macs should be paid a lot.
/runs from room throwing chocolate coated 80286 chips at disgruntled folk.
The problem is that people think that categorizing traffic is inherently dangerous, and charging CONTENT PROVIDERS is somehow a sin. That's bullshit on many levels.
So the price of online prOn won't skyrocket when NN bites it? You don't know what a relief that is!
The problem is that people think that categorizing traffic is inherently dangerous, and charging CONTENT PROVIDERS is somehow a sin. That's bullshit on many levels.
Yer moving my position. I'll take what you say as a truth, but I'm gonna blame you if my service to the sites I wanna go is interrupted or starts charging. What does it hurt me if someone charges someone else and I don't have any consequences?
Dude, it was clearly referring to moving to Canada. Please do try to keep up.
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv
Clearly. Dude. Whatever.
Would Canada even accept a douche like you?
Probably not.
But why do you always make this an arguement between you and i?
Well, it is my most endearing trait...!
You'll get no argument here, you motherfucker!
Just hope that the beer trucks don't decide only brews from Busch can be shipped to SFO... ;-P
Gilly, Mlle was muttering today about husband wanting an iPhone.
I told her, let him have it. Some arguments are just so not worth it.
What did techies do suddenly to invoke such classic stereotyping?
/runs from room throwing chocolate coated 80286 chips at disgruntled folk.
Now that's going to require some heavy :rocket:.
Clearly. Dude. Whatever.
So you admit that the context was clear and your comment was stupid?
Would Canada even accept a douche like you?
Probably not.
Why not?
But why do you always make this an arguement between you and i?
I didn't start it, fuckface.
Will someone just fucking kneel before him and he'll go away.
Well, kinda. Common carriers are not liable for consequential damages, so there is a limit to what they might have to pay based on the cost of the carriage, but that's the extent of it.
NTodd
Sorry, I was expresing what happens if they are NOT common carriers. Common carriers are not responsible for content. Carriers that aren't common carriers legally *are* responsible for content.
I would think that the carriers would be holding onto common carrier status with all four paws for dear life.
Gilmore's out
Former Virginia Gov. James S. Gilmore III is dropping his underdog bid for the Republican presidential nomination today, he told The Politico in an interview.
McCain's next.
Gilly, Mlle was muttering today about husband wanting an iPhone.
I told her, let him have it. Some arguments are just so not worth it.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Heard today there have been a lot of problems with the iPhones.
[kneeling before Zod]
Gomez, I'm only going to kneel before a guy if I have something specific in mind.
Yer moving my position.
Quite honestly, your position is as muddied as everybody else's when NN comes up. Nobody can define it when I ask them about it, which is why I provided 3 definitions and discussed why I support the same one held by Tim Berners-Lee.
I'm gonna blame you if my service to the sites I wanna go is interrupted or starts charging.
Blame the FCC.
What does it hurt me if someone charges someone else and I don't have any consequences?
I'm not sure I understand this question.
Will someone just fucking kneel before him and he'll go away
I prefer when they kneel before me.
Will someone just fucking kneel before him and he'll go away.
Will that work with Pope Ratzo?
Terry C, he wanted one, and there are plenty of other things that they can argue over.
Let him learn it for himself
people using macs should be paid a lot.
...for pain and suffering.
Gilly, Mlle was muttering today about husband wanting an iPhone.
I told her, let him have it. Some arguments are just so not worth it.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 07.14.07 - 10:14 pm | #
Gotta choose the battles, obviously. I think the answer in establishing boundaries is to draw them immediately. Kinda like having a dog (or dag, for pikers). Gotta lead, otherwise, you'll be led.
Gilmore's out
Oh, HE looks like a real FUN guy.
Will that work with Pope Ratzo?
spinoza
No, he'll make you a Cardinal.
Former Virginia Gov. James S. Gilmore III
I thought we dropped the Roman numeral shit when we went on strike in 1776.
rememer and write down your dreams
God I had this totally hot dream the other night about some female atriot that I just do not know who. It was erotic as all get out.
LOL - zod, you've been fucking owwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnned !!!!
Gilly Gonzylon
ha ha ha..... sure, guy. whatever.
tomorrow you can talk to all your 3 friends and let them know how you so ruled tonight........ ok?
can you spell pathetic?
probably not, you will be too busy letting everone know how you ruled.
OK.
Wow. I'm in awe of your genius.
The problem is that people think that categorizing traffic is inherently dangerous, and charging CONTENT PROVIDERS is somehow a sin. That's bullshit on many levels.
---
You are assuming that traffic will be categorized solely on a sane and fair basis: that is, Jane Hamsher wants to offer people high quality call in lines for comments to Firedoglake and she is automatically offered exactly the same per-packet rate that Fox gets. There is no reason to believe that such a situation will come to pass unless there is strict, codified in law, regulation to impose it.
"chocolate coated 80286"
That reminds me, I have a 286/12 or is it a 20 in the attic. Not sure if I am strong enough to lift the chassis down though.
Hmm, my Amiga 2K is still up there as well.
Just hope that the beer trucks don't decide only brews from Busch can be shipped to SFO...
The Grocery Outlet Store in our neck of the woods was running a special on Busch today. I was shocked to learn it was still being made...
The vote is in...... I'll keep posing.
General Zod
And we'll keep ignoring. Knock yerself out.
Gomez, I'm only going to kneel before a guy if I have something specific in mind.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Heard today there have been a lot of problems with the iPhones.
Terry C - End Bush's Reign Now | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:15 pm |
Jesus the iPhone is such crap and not just given the unforgivable hype. There's a TechRepublic style site that bought one, then took it apart and reassembled it, photographing each step. We tried to link the thing but there were complications.
Will that work with Pope Ratzo?
spinoza
No, he'll make you a Cardinal.
More like an lbj (little brown job).
McCain's next.
portia |
So after McCain drops out who does he get behind...
so to speak.
.
EkCenTrik, how much would I have to pay you to lug the 8088 in my garage away?
...my Amiga 2K is still up there as well.
Definitely a market for that one.
The 286, not so much...
Gilly Gonzylon
I am SO in awe of you......
You must be smart.
DOS jocks hated mac users before Windows jocks did. We seem to inspire hatred in people.
Twat has various meanings, clearly dependent upon which regional dialect one is accustomed to.
It is generally used as a term to mean 'vagina' or 'clitoris'.
I rather like "twat."
How's this for a halftime show?(flexes)
I told her, let him have it. Some arguments are just so not worth it.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 07.14.07 - 10:14 pm | #
Yeah, though if he waits a few months the price will come down.
I'm waiting until it's available for other carriers- I will not switch to AT&T.
I wasn't aware that Google got to connect their stuff to the internet for free. Being a "naive techie" I assumed they pay some sort of access fee like every other user of the internet.
My server on the internet gets X amount of bandwidth per second, for a fee. Many more people pay for amount of gigabytes transferred per month. The telecom lobby wants us to believe Google isn't subject to the same kind of pricing. And the "tiered" internet that telecoms envision would allow Verizon to lower the priority of Google traffic because they cut some deal with Yahoo.
So I say bite the invisible hand of the market, that's a horseshit future.
DOS jocks hated mac users before Windows jocks did. We seem to inspire hatred in people.
Tralfaz
This is why
Gomez, I'm only going to kneel before a guy if I have something specific in mind.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Hey, if a guy can't tie his own shoelaces why help?
.
good for the gator, eating the annoying kid.
What does it hurt me if someone charges someone else and I don't have any consequences?
I'm not sure I understand this question.
Aren't you in effect saying that there is zero effect on me personally, and the population in general, if NN is not enacted?
4Legs, yes, I liked that
Sorry, I was expresing what happens if they are NOT common carriers. Common carriers are not responsible for content. Carriers that aren't common carriers legally *are* responsible for content.
Ah, gotcha. No worries. I thought that originally, but the async nature of these threads made me change my mind.
I would think that the carriers would be holding onto common carrier status with all four paws for dear life.
They would indeed. Prolly why they don't want the FCC/FTC posture to change: regarding content they are pretty much considered common carriers, but otherwise regulated as info services. This is also why they want to make a distinction--reasonable technically--between 'categorization' of traffic and actual examination and filtering of content itself.
People don't understand that customers will tag their data with a certain ID indicating how it should be treated by the network, but the network doesn't actually look at the data itself. Thus folks think AT&T is going to somehow block Eschaton because it says naughty things. That's why I went to great pains to explain QoS at least on a basic level, but it's still beyond what most people have experienced given that a converged network is so new and different from the PSTN and traditional data networks.
...my Amiga 2K is still up there as well.
Definitely a market for that one.
But only if it has Deluxe Paint and Marble Madness loaded on it!
And we'll keep ignoring. Knock yerself out.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
So by ignoring, you mean that you will keep posting retorts like this?
Really, fourlegs, get over yourself.
Please tell me some more how you will ignore me.
Jesus the iPhone is such crap and not just given the unforgivable hype. There's a TechRepublic style site that bought one, then took it apart and reassembled it, photographing each step. We tried to link the thing but there were complications.
the evildoers
It's something that I have decided I can live without.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts of his government's military and political progress Saturday, saying Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "anytime they want."
Agent Orange, I, uh, don't tie Monsieur's shoelaces.
This is why
JR, kerosene and a match
dood, do not go there. No one is more obnoxious than you
DOS jocks hated mac users before Windows jocks did. We seem to inspire hatred in people.
Tralfaz
They're just in different worlds.
Educators and Artists.
The Strokes - Live - Barely Legal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h?v=1D8-
_OQAq3Y
"EkCenTrik, how much would I have to pay you to lug the 8088 in my garage away?"
I would suggest cleaning it up real nice and leave it on the side of the street. Someone will walk away thinking they got something cool. (I love people who scavenge the old stuff and then figure out just what they got)
"
Definitely a market for that one.
The 286, not so much..."
I keep them for old times sake. Been meaning to look around for a few bits and get the Amiga running again. The 286 was running the last time I powered it up. However I am not sure I can get a monitor for it anymore.
Sorry, I was expresing what happens if they are NOT common carriers. Common carriers are not responsible for content. Carriers that aren't common carriers legally *are* responsible for content.
What, Todd and another one of his causes?
YOU MUST ALL LISTEN!
Most lawyers tend to be PC users.
You are assuming that traffic will be categorized solely on a sane and fair basis: that is, Jane Hamsher wants to offer people high quality call in lines for comments to Firedoglake and she is automatically offered exactly the same per-packet rate that Fox gets.
Better yet: we're bumping the "free" Blogspot content down to the lowest access level. Only "premium" Blogspot content will flow at a speedy pace.
Or better yet: our customers find "leftist" propaganda offensive. Only Fox-approved content will be allowed. Don't like it? Switch to our competitor. There isn't one? BWAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Most lawyers tend to be PC users.
And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0...
behind U!!
oh, of course the hot black chick will get eaten
that's just wrong. In my movie the black guy will live
Jesus the iPhone is such crap and not just given the unforgivable hype.
For an extra 2 hundred thousand a year,it will actually work as advertised.
EkCenTrik, we cleaned the garage in May. But the 8086/8088 stayed.
And 10 years of Dr. Dobbs.'
rootless2, tumbling | 07.14.07 - 10:18 pm |
No kidding, this is what we find unforgivable with Asimov's enthusiasm for science, which is shared by many who ought to know better. We had a brilliant biology prof who would go to the mat for genmod, dna fingerprinting, and so forth on the basis that scientists could be trusted Somehow corporations, police departments, government agencies and terrorists were almost never mentioned: it was only Scientists working in the laboratory of pure ideals, paid only in algorithms and lab supplies.
And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0...
dave™©
I use Word.
This is why
JR, kerosene and a match
Wow, that sums up the rant perfectly. Clinically, even.
"Marble Madness loaded on it!"
That was fun to play after a couple of scotches.
My favorite will still be Arctic Fox of all things however.
...my Amiga 2K is still up there as well.
My older brother bought an Amiga back in 1987. Great machine. Ahead of it's time.
Most lawyers tend to be PC users.
explains so much
ok, who just got eaten? I looked down and missed it.
EkCenTrik, this is a truly embarrassing confession...I still play text Adventure.
Heard today there have been a lot of problems with the iPhones.
Terry C - End Bush's Reign Now
"Someone says..." Who'd you hear it from? What was their expertise for making the statement?
Here, I'll cite something: Survey shows overwhelming satisfaction with iPhone. A million iPhones sold and very low failure rate, almost no complaints. It's unbecoming to pretend it's not a popular phone that's delivering on the promises.
For an extra 2 hundred thousand a year, it will actually work as advertised.
MP | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:23 pm |
Isn't that the kind of Microsuck nonsense Mac users used to gloat over? And once they get it, what will have been accomplished? More car accidents.
ok, who just got eaten? I looked down and missed it.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
The kitties know.
"And 10 years of Dr. Dobbs.'"
You have to tell him it is time to let go.
"Someone says..." Who'd you hear it from? What was their expertise for making the statement?
Heard it on the news.
But why do you always make this an arguement between you and i?
General Zod
That would be "between you and me". You see, "between" is a preposition that is used with nominative pronouns, as in "between us". That means that using it with a subjective is incorrect, as in "between we".
How goes the eatage flick, peoples? Shall I tune in later when it shows in my time zone?
And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0...
dave™©
I once had a really stupid student (er pupil) tell me he prefered WordPerfect over Word because the 'letters were bigger'.
I have no idea where he is today - probably DOJ.
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I wasn't aware that Google got to connect their stuff to the internet for free. Being a "naive techie" I assumed they pay some sort of access fee like every other user of the internet.
They don't get it for free. Not sure what your point is, since NN is about transport, not access.
The telecom lobby wants us to believe Google isn't subject to the same kind of pricing.
No, they want you to understand that they are deploying a network that can provide priority to packets through routers so they deliver a higher quality experience to Google's customers should they want to pay for a premium level of service.
And the "tiered" internet that telecoms envision would allow Verizon to lower the priority of Google traffic because they cut some deal with Yahoo.
Not quite. Could you please read my post I linked to so you can understand QoS? TIA.
Prolly why they don't want the FCC/FTC posture to change: regarding content they are pretty much considered common carriers, but otherwise regulated as info services.
yeah, my point was if they are not "blind" as to the identity (rather than technical issues) of the source then they aren't common carriers.
It really seems to bother PC people that I like my Macs and have no problem with them.
Zod is annieangel is Allen Butler. The writing patterns are the same and the obsession for Ntodd never ceases.
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Gilly Gonzylon
A fine choice.
"EkCenTrik, this is a truly embarrassing confession...I still play text Adventure.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere"
That's cool. I miss Infocom a lot. I tend to think that games as a whole now never display the creativity of that era.
Saw the new Harry Potter movie today.
It was OK.
Still like the Prisoner Of Azkaban best.
Maybe Cuarón can be persuaded to do that last one?
I once had a really stupid student (er pupil) tell me he prefered WordPerfect over Word because the 'letters were bigger'. I have no idea where he is today - probably DOJ.
What's all this white out doing on the monitor?
It's unbecoming to pretend it's not a popular phone that's delivering on the promises.
puppethead
Hey, I was just saying what I'd heard.
I don't care one way or another. I have no axe to grind.
How goes the eatage flick, peoples? Shall I tune in later when it shows in my time zone?
It has a satisfying amount of eatage and a number of hot babes.
I'd say yes.
fourlegsgood: It really seems to bother PC people that I like my Macs and have no problem with them.
Doesn't bother me in the least. Mazel Tov!
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Isn't that the kind of Microsuck nonsense Mac users used to gloat over?
It's your fault. Press 8 for customer assistance.
They're just in different worlds.
Educators and Artists.
Gomez
Academic science is fairly split. I keep adding PCs to the lab I run because most of our incoming students (esp. international) are Windows.
Speaking of Macs and PCs, I have several on-going gigs where design companies call me in after they've designed a very lovely identity campaign for a corporate client and suddenly realize said client wants all the documents to be available on a PC in Word or Powerpoint formats.
Of course, not only are all the templates they've put together in Photoshop or Illustrator, they're all done on the Mac, using fonts no normal PC would have.
I would suggest cleaning it up real nice and leave it on the side of the street. Someone will walk away thinking they got something cool. (I love people who scavenge the old stuff and then figure out just what they got)
You should know that there is a market for used computer parts. They won't pay you for the stuff. But they will take it and do something that is better than letting the thing reach the dump.
Don't put your computers out at the street. Please.
"And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0..."
Yes. That is silly. WP 5.1 DOS was far far better.
It really seems to bother PC people that I like my Macs and have no problem with them.
(falls to floor, kicks legs, yells "noooo")
Heh
I used to play games alot, preferred windows for title selection. Now, I'd be happy with a Mac.
While running through uncapped fire hydrants...
Gilly Gonzylon
My summer vacation...
Sooooo...whatcha doin aftah?
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv
Finding more uncapped fire hydrants.
I've been discussing Michael Moore with a person on imdb who claims that Moore wants to take over America, and put "millions" of "decent" Americans in gulags.
I get so tired sometimes.
No one is more obnoxious than you
fourlegsgood
Unlike you, I don't call people liars becasue they don't fellate Macs.
And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0...
Myself I never like wordperfect, but it did have some virtues. Nice print output, and if you were willing to learn the entire set of hotkey commands, very fast on the hardware it ran on.
Also for lawyers, there seemed to be better templates for legal documents than there was for MSOffice.
This may have changed, I've not looked at a lawyers machine in years.
I don't know what they are using any more.
It really seems to bother PC people that I like my Macs and have no problem with them.
RESISTENCE IS FUTILE WITHOUT SUDO AND PASSWORD. YOU WILL BE UBUNTUATED.
"And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0..."
Yes. That is silly. WP 5.1 DOS was far far better.
EkCenTriK
When I saw I could convert all my WP docs into Word, I switched. About 1998.
Not quite. Could you please read my post I linked to so you can understand QoS? TIA.
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv
I understand it just fine, thank you very much. And I take issue with your flawed argument. You seem to ignore how business works, there will be temptations to degrade service because of business deals that have nothing to do with the technical infrastructure. That is the issue. It won't be "looking at the blog packets" but deciding traffic from IP address range X is worth less than from address range Y.
This net neutrality fight is like the NAFTA issue. Allowing tiering sounds good because it will improve the technical aspects, but putting it into practice will fuck everyone over because of the way businesses work. They will always look for ways to make money and edge out competitors.
SIRIUS Error.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...7/14/193954/
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The liberal channel is called "SIRIUS Left."
The conservative channel is called "SIRIUS Patriot."
SIRIUS Satellite Radio doesn't think you're patriotic. This is an obscenity.
SIRIUS's media relations representative for talk radio is Hillary Schupf. Her email is hschupf@siriusradio.com.
Hot science babe in wet T shirt, with cleavage.
Don't put your computers out at the street. Please.
smalfish
There's a place here that recycyles them for charity. Anything unusable they take care of properly.
I've been discussing Michael Moore with a person on imdb who claims that Moore wants to take over America, and put "millions" of "decent" Americans in gulags.
I get so tired sometimes.
Allie
That person belongs in a rubber room.
Speaking of Macs and PCs, I have several on-going gigs where design companies call me in after they've designed a very lovely identity campaign for a corporate client and suddenly realize said client wants all the documents to be available on a PC in Word or Powerpoint formats.
Of course, not only are all the templates they've put together in Photoshop or Illustrator, they're all done on the Mac, using fonts no normal PC would have.
I tend to just put things in PDF format for the windows folks.
Logos and graphics I flatten and create a EPS or a JPEG.
Fonts can be a problem.
Self-righteous OS freaks are teh big suck.
"It really seems to bother PC people that I like my Macs and have no problem with them."
Funny - both MAC and PC people feel like they're picked on by the other.
And the "tiered" internet that telecoms envision would allow Verizon to lower the priority of Google traffic because they cut some deal with Yahoo.
Not quite. Could you please read my post I linked to so you can understand QoS? TIA.
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:26 pm | #
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You assume that someone does not understand QOS, when what they really are doing is not agreeing with your analysis of the business strategies of the carriers. This situation is very analogous to the railroads pre ICC. If the carriers can ally with certain customers, the commercial logic to do so is a no brainer.
Zod is annieangel is Allen Butler. The writing patterns are the same and the obsession for Ntodd never ceases.
I was here one night when Draco said he switched to Zod and another nym I can't remember when he was feeling depressed.
Depressed is one thing, but the guy is just an asshole. Regulars and lurker agree, there's no reason to be a dick to a group of people just because they won't collectively be your BFF.
You are assuming that traffic will be categorized solely on a sane and fair basis
That's how the technology works. If a content provider (meaning not Jane Hamsher, but Google or YouTube) wants to classify their traffic as Expedited Forwarding, it gets put into a different router queue than Best Effort or Assured Forwarding classed traffic. Based on what THE CUSTOMER decides, not the network. The network merely delivers that traffic over a path that will meet its QoS requirements.
that is, Jane Hamsher wants to offer people high quality call in lines for comments to Firedoglake and she is automatically offered exactly the same per-packet rate that Fox gets.
1) It's not per packet.
2) Best effort will still be available for free. Just like it is now in the Internet.
There is no reason to believe that such a situation will come to pass unless there is strict, codified in law, regulation to impose it.
The FCC already regulates such things.
And as I said, I'm fine with explicit codification so long as it does not prevent providers from charging for new, tiered services.
AOL founder Steve Case, should actually be now spending his 11th year in the Federal Penitentiary.
He sold, over interstate wires, millions of contracts, that he *knew* could not be fulfilled.
Most lawyers tend to be PC users.
And moaning about the demise of Wordperfect 5.0...
No way. "Track Changes" in Word rulez (and rocks) my world.
4Legs, I'm utterly agnostic on the Mac/PC question.
Whatever works best for what one needs to do.
YOU WILL BE UBUNTUATED
Canonical's product is OK, but I've already been siduxed.
"I've been discussing Michael Moore with a person on imdb who claims that Moore wants to take over America, and put "millions" of "decent" Americans in gulags."
Not sure I'd bother - they sound like they're nuts.
Hot science babe in wet T shirt, with cleavage.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Axial plane cleavage is a sign of lots of 'slippage'.
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The liberal channel is called "SIRIUS Left."
The conservative channel is called "SIRIUS Patriot."
That's gay.
I have to file everything electronically. Most lawyers have to now.
So we all use computers. I still have a typewriter for emergencies. But it gets used mainly for file folder labels.
Just one day after the Iraqi government received failing marks in President Bush's surge interim progress report, Americans learned that the Iraqi parliament is proceeding with its plans to take off the month of August. But while the American people may be up in arms, President Bush's amen corner is predictably silent. After all, given Bush's own record-setting penchant for vacationing during crises here at home, Republicans are understandably reticent to criticize the absentee government in Baghdad.
For the sad history of Iraq and the absentee president, see:
"Republicans Quiet on Iraqi - and Bush - Vacations."
I do remember a period of time when despite the move to MS Word, there was a frequent number of issues coming up with various regulatory agencies etc being standardized on Word Perfect.
Me, I still miss WP DOS for speed and lack of clutter. WP for Windows in the early days moved me to MS Word quickly.
You assume that someone does not understand QOS, when what they really are doing is not agreeing with your analysis of the business strategies of the carriers.
Given the language people are using, no, people do not understand QoS. That includes you.
This situation is very analogous to the railroads pre ICC. If the carriers can ally with certain customers, the commercial logic to do so is a no brainer.
Indeed, which is why we already have regulations in place to prevent such things.
Unlike you, I don't call people liars becasue they don't fellate Macs.
When did I call you a liar?
And my problem is that you seem to be unable to comprehend that I like them and that I do not have technical difficulties with them.
And neither do any of the people who work for me.
And that I really don't give a fuck if you like PCs better. Knock yourself out.
I've been discussing Michael Moore with a person on imdb who claims that Moore wants to take over America, and put "millions" of "decent" Americans in gulags.
We were saying, having grown up in Asiaphobic Eighties Detroit, it would be so fucking cool had the Japanese really taken over. The current very painful implosion of the Big Three, the triple disaster of inept border control (day trips to Canada, once a regular staple of local economies, at an all time low thanks to Bush and Chertoff), aging pensionless workers and urban decay, and also Japanese lessons.
Gomez, Avery Labels.
And WP12 rocks. Word pales in comparison.
More Strokes - Yep, this one is an "American Girl" rip, but still a catchy as hell tune.
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It really seems to bother PC people that I like my Macs and have no problem with them.
No, it really bothers people when you think that everyone should be exactly the same, and won't shut up about it.
When did I call you a liar?
A number of weeks ago.
We have three kinds of people in our department. Windows users who are good about keeping viruses/malware away. Windows users who keep letting viruses in and take up a lot of our IT pro's time, even though he's constantly updating the mail server to screen stuff. And Mac users.
Mac vs. PC: our true religious wars
"I've been discussing Michael Moore with a person on imdb who claims that Moore wants to take over America, and put "millions" of "decent" Americans in gulags."
Not sure I'd bother - they sound like they're nuts.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Really. People like that are not worth bothering with.
"Make a decision, ladies!"
"Oh my God!"
And WP12 rocks. Word pales in comparison.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
I'm using Word 2003. It has the benefit of being paid for.
"QoS? TIA.
NTodd"
Gee do you want to help me break my contract with a crappy sat provider?
They suck but I've signed a one year contract with a month and a half left on it.
I don't feel like paying for two internet connections, so I'm kind of stuck till it expires.
That person belongs in a rubber room.
Terry C - End Bush's Reign Now
Not sure I'd bother - they sound like they're nuts.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
It was fun for a while, but I'm losing interest. I'm kind of fickle.
4Legs, I'm utterly agnostic on the Mac/PC question.
Whatever works best for what one needs to do.
FOr me Mac is better, but then I mainly use stuff that runs native on Mac.
adobe stuff, etc.
Someone else may have different needs.
I don't play games either.
I understand it just fine, thank you very much.
You don't appear to.
I take issue with your flawed argument. You seem to ignore how business works, there will be temptations to degrade service because of business deals that have nothing to do with the technical infrastructure.
Nope, I don't ignore it. I've lived it with my students for 15 years. And that's why I'm thankful there's a regulatory regime in place already.
That is the issue. It won't be "looking at the blog packets" but deciding traffic from IP address range X is worth less than from address range Y.
Nope, not that either. But please do go on making up speculative futures.
Also "compare documents" in Word is presently The Story of My Life.
The people who really worry me are the ones who still pine for IBM DisplayWrite (DOS).
Serious intervention is needed in that case.
Can't we allll....get along?
cries piteously
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest " is Just STarting on AMC.
PC's suck. A lot. But just not enough to go Apple.
Funny - both MAC and PC people feel like they're picked on by the other.
I really don't understand why PC people always misspell Apple product names. It's "Mac", not "MAC". It's "iPod", not "iPOD".
I've always found that almost as annoying as when Republicans say the "Democrat Party". Is it intentional?
"I'm not gonna be alligator food!"
Serious intervention is needed in that case.
EkCenTriK
Nothing's been the same since EMACS...
evening bats...
is our nets neutral?
Yeah, we actually didn't know this all the time we were studying to be Windowsists, that the vast majority of what are called viruses are more properly called Windows viruses and are one of the strongest single arguments against the evil empire.
And WP12 rocks. Word pales in comparison.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
I'm addicted to vi.
I tend to just put things in PDF format for the windows folks.
Well, the problem in these cases is, the client expects a memo or fax template that can be used electronically by all their employees.
The Powerpoint templates always amuse me. "You mean I can't have 20 specific color choices in my charts? It worked in Photoshop!"
"WP for Windows in the early days moved me to MS Word quickly."
Loved WP, what moved me on was not being able to forward anything to anyone - "I can't seem to open it can you send it in Word?" I finally gave in but I still remember wordperfect fondly.
Mac people are fine with me.
I'm just set in my ways with my PC.
No, it really bothers people when you think that everyone should be exactly the same, and won't shut up about it.
Dood.
You are fucking dead wrong. I don't care if some people prefer PC.
Gee do you want to help me break my contract with a crappy sat provider?
Nah, I gave up my crappy sat provider last year. Hughes' network is the worst in the universe, they charge way too fucking much for lousy access and awful customer service. I'd go back because I could use the higher download speeds, but I also need better upstream since I do a lot with audio and multimedia. Instead, I just go to the cafe with free WiFi 20 minutes away when I need to upload something.
Richard, I still use vi.
But not ed or emacs.
"Nothing's been the same since EMACS...
JR, kerosene and a match"
Heh.
I wrote my doctoral thesis using Macwrite. Not sure if I could find appls. that would read it now. There used to be a thing called Nisuswriter that read just about any wp format.
Mac people are fine with me.
I'm just set in my ways with my PC.
We can't all be perfect.
"I'm not gonna be alligator food!"
Sallyh
gator's gots to eat too!
that the vast majority of what are called viruses are more properly called Windows viruses and are one of the strongest single arguments against the evil empire.
the evildoers
Not fgamiliar with the wonderful world of *nix rootkits, eh?
Every OS sucks.
Our nets are not a truck, they are a series of tubes.
I've always found that almost as annoying as when Republicans say the "Democrat Party". Is it intentional?
The local CBS radio affiliate here is doing some anniversary promotions these past few weeks.
This morning they were playing audio from the summer of the Watergate break-in and there was audio of Bob Fucking Dole saying, "I don't know what anyone would want in the Democrat party offices. It's just a bunch of unpaid bills."
Fucking dick.
You are assuming that traffic will be categorized solely on a sane and fair basis
That's how the technology works. If a content provider (meaning not Jane Hamsher, but Google or YouTube) wants to classify their traffic as Expedited Forwarding, it gets put into a different router queue than Best Effort or Assured Forwarding classed traffic.
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Excuse me, but that is not how the technology works at all. The technology permits the carrier to count and categorize bandwidth per user - that is how they know how much to bill Google or YouTube or Ms. Hamsher. There is nothing in the technology that prevents the carrier from charging a hefty "setup fee" to allow any high priority packet to originate from or go to your site. There is nothing in the technology that prevents the carrier from deciding that SkyNews video on demand service is the only packet service tha t will go into the highest class of service - even if Ms. Hamsher offers to pay at the same rate
The obvious analogy is network advertising. Viagra yes. Condoms no. Unitarian anti-bigotry ads no, Swift boat liars yes. The technology doesn't give a damn about which ads go on the air, but the corporations do and will.
This movie has some most satisfying eatage!!
Trafalz, I wrote mine on WP 4.0
And thought it was damn cool.
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest " is Just STarting on AMC.
res ipsa loquitur |
Top 10 Movie Lines of all time...
Nicholson - "Well Doc, ye get that beaver in front of yer face and why hell, there ain't a man alive who can say 'no' to it!"
Or something like that.
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Every OS sucks.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:38 pm |
Yes, but it was not Winston Churchill who said, "ours is the worst system we know of, except all the others, and also Bill Gates is worse than Hitler and I should know"?
"I really don't understand why PC people always misspell Apple product names. It's "Mac", not "MAC". It's "iPod", not "iPOD"."
Me so sorry. Well - not really.
4Legs, about fucking time, too.
We've been so eatage deprived it's not funny.
The people who really worry me are the ones who still pine for IBM DisplayWrite (DOS).
EkCenTriK
PINE is not ELM
The Powerpoint templates always amuse me. "You mean I can't have 20 specific color choices in my charts? It worked in Photoshop!"
I hate Powerpoint.
That is all.
CPUs, storage media, operating systems, software and programming languages, I bend them to my will, and that is all that matters to me. All the rest is granfalloonery.
You are fucking dead wrong. I don't care if some people prefer PC.
fourlegsgood
Which is why you have a meltdown whenever someone has a valid ctriticism of Macs? Which is why you call people liars for no damned reason?
This morning they were playing audio from the summer of the Watergate break-in and there was audio of Bob Fucking Dole saying, "I don't know what anyone would want in the Democrat party offices. It's just a bunch of unpaid bills."
Fucking dick.
Those were upaid bills for greased gerbils.
-Liddy Dole, Senate Annals on Lubricated Sex, V. XLII
How did Randall MacMurphy wind up in the bin in this movie? W as he trying to stay out of real prison?
so do the new macs run MS apps, like autodesk architectural desktop?
4Legs, I, too, hate PowerPoint.
Use it. But hate it.
"I can't seem to open it can you send it in Word?"
Note I was referencing Word Perfect for Windows. IMO, they released far too early and allowed MS to beat them into the ground on stability and performance issues.
I was constantly troubleshooting problems for my office when it came into the workplace. If Word Perfect had waited and smoothed out the reliability issues and others, they would have still been a major player in the long run.
Powerpoint is disgusting. There isa a great website that shows what the Gettysburg Address would've been with pp.
4Legs, about fucking time, too.
We've been so eatage deprived it's not funny.
I'll say.
Roger Corman knows how to do eatage.
I wrote my doctoral thesis using Macwrite.
I wrote mine using TeX. There's something I'd never want to go back to using.
Note I was referencing Word Perfect for Windows. IMO, they released far too early and allowed MS to beat them into the ground on stability and performance issues.
Don't get me started on Corel's anit-Midas touch....
so do the new macs run MS apps, like autodesk architectural desktop?
Ummm, I dunno, but I'm pretty sure you can run windows on it if you need to.
Nope, I don't ignore it. I've lived it with my students for 15 years. And that's why I'm thankful there's a regulatory regime in place already.
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There is ZERO regulatory regime in place. There are slow to move, politically nervous carriers, and a hand waving promise from an FTC industry goon who says the check is in the mail.
I wrote some rockin book reports in junior high with whatever they were running on the atari 520STs
Richard, wrote my master's using nroff and troff.
Excuse me, but that is not how the technology works at all.
Yes, it is. Customers will assign the appropriate DSCP and the network will then put the data in an appropriate queue and determine which path will meet the needs.
The technology permits the carrier to count and categorize bandwidth per user - that is how they know how much to bill Google or YouTube or Ms. Hamsher.
That technology exists today. Routers have as one function the ability to count packets. QoS and tiering doesn't change that.
There is nothing in the technology that prevents the carrier from charging a hefty "setup fee" to allow any high priority packet to originate from or go to your site.
Nope, that's where existing regulations come into play.
The technology doesn't give a damn about which ads go on the air, but the corporations do and will.
Indeed, just as Vietnam and China can filter things coming into their countries (and that noble Google complies with their requirements). I only start with the technology so people understand that categorization isn't inherently evil, nor is charging for it. And then I go into the current regulatory regime, as well as the economics.
But go ahead and ignore all that and "assume" that I base my argument solely on understanding how QoS works.
So, how long after NN goes down the tubes will we see the first DoQoS attack? I mean, you know somebody's gonna do it...
I just like to poke fun at Mac folx who get into a problem with their Mac (which never happens, of course), and can't figure it out.
Of course, for the most part, they've never had to deal with computing adversity, so that's a plus. However, the wailing and gnashing of teeth that occurs when the impossible happens... it's priceless amusement.
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so do the new macs run MS apps, like autodesk architectural desktop?
::matthew | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:40 pm | #
Indeed. Using an app called Parallels, you can run a full XP machine inside OSX just as you would an application.
However, the wailing and gnashing of teeth that occurs when the impossible happens... it's priceless amusement.
/sticks tongue out at JP
Not fgamiliar with the wonderful world of *nix rootkits, eh?
Every OS sucks.
I've heard of them, have tools to detect them, but have never seen one. I've seen thousands of windows viruses. Mostly when I had the computer bus, and had to work on others machines. Also, with my son's windows computer, till I put a couple of firewalls inline with the net connection. A linksys (with updated firmware) router, and upstream from there a dedicated BSD firewall that can only be programed with a local dedicated serial port connection for minor things and a JTAG programmer for anything detailed.
That combo has never been broken.
Which is why you have a meltdown whenever someone has a valid ctriticism of Macs? Which is why you call people liars for no damned reason?
You got me confused with someone.
I never call you a liar, I called you obnoxious.
I shouldn't have bothered, I'm sure it's apparent to everyone.
and that noble Google complies with their requirements
Nope, that's where existing regulations come into play.
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And when I ask what existing regulations you refer me to a statement by the FCC that it will intervene if things get out of hand.
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Don't get me started on Corel's anit-Midas touch...."
This pre-dated Corel IIRC. It was still WPC.
I seem to have a memory of writing a long letter to WPC over all the problems.
No response back either.
Cukoo's Nest was brilliant, but Nicholson's masterpiece of acting was, and always will be, "Five Easy Pieces."
That is all.
res ipsa loquitur: /sticks tongue out at JP
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I want an O/S that won't let the fucking greeting card spam in....and a new drug too
Here's what I support, just the same as The Father Of The Web:
"Limited Discrimination and Tiering: this approach allows higher fees for QoS as long as there is no exclusivity in service contracts: If I pay to connect to the net with a given quality of service, and you pay to connect to the net with the same or higher quality of service, then you and I can communicate across the net, with that quality of service.[1]. [We] each pay to connect to the Net, but no one can pay for exclusive access to me."
Of course, for the most part, they've never had to deal with computing adversity, so that's a plus.
This is true.
I never call you a liar, I called you obnoxious.
I shouldn't have bothered, I'm sure it's apparent to everyone.
fourlegsgood
You had a meltdown because Windows played blue team/red team for Vista. When I pointed out that Mac and Linux did the exact same thing you called me a lair.
Richard, wrote my master's using nroff and troff.
Oh christ that takes me back. How about NSF grants using carbon paper for all the damned copies they wanted?
When I think about it, didn't Novell or someone pick up Word Prefect for a bit before Corel?
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts of his government's military and political progress Saturday, saying Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "anytime they want."
At a news conference Saturday, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said his government needs "time and effort" to enact the political reforms that Washington seeks.
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of embarrassing the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating his country like an "experiment in a U.S. lab."
So is this 'good' news or 'bad' news, I can no longer tell?
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Res, did you ever get the mouse with the right click?
so do the new macs run MS apps, like autodesk architectural desktop?
::matthew
Yes, yes they do. They run full Windows. If you get VM Ware or Parallels (for about $100), you can run them side-by-side with Mac apps, because Windows goes into a little box of its own. Microsoft seems scared by this, which is why they put their stupid virtual machine licensing language on Vista.
Richard, wrote my master's using nroff and troff.
Well, I guess that beats typing it onto tissue paper and then writing in the equations by hand, like my supervisor had to in the good old days.
Oh, MOST EXCELLENT!!
supergator is going to the luau!!
In Systems programming lab, where we were to create our own projects dealing with such things as device drivers, I wrote a proposal for doing a font system.
Unfortunately, I wrote it using my Dad's old Underwood typerwriter, the kind that didn't have an exclamation point--you used an apostrophe and a period.
I caught holy hell from the professor for using "outdated" technology.
I knew this would happen. I shouldn't have started that TRS-80 versus Vic 20 war last night. :-D
And when I ask what existing regulations you refer me to a statement by the FCC that it will intervene if things get out of hand.
They have already intervened on the rare occassions when problems have occurred.
You're the one who wants to change the status quo. Show me where the system has failed. Show me where FCC regs must be updated.
I'm just set in my ways with my PC.
Say nothing of the investment in software that is wasted in any transition from one OS to another.
I'd use a mac if that were not the case. Or I'd try windows if the roles were reversed.
Spinoza, I never did carbon paper.
Monsieur was adamant I take advantage of the current technologies.
OK, let's try that agin with proper tags
and that noble Google complies with their requirements
When China told Google that they would have to turn over personally identifying information on GoogleGroups postings, Google refused to provide Googlegroups to the Chinese market.
Yahoo's equivalent? "Sure thing boss".
4LG,
No, and I cannot believe this conversation.
I just dropped more money than I should have at Sephora. Fuck.
You had a meltdown because Windows played blue team/red team for Vista. When I pointed out that Mac and Linux did the exact same thing you called me a lair.
What? I don't even know the fuck what that means.
Blue team/red team?
"TRS-80 versus Vic 20 "
Hell the Pets walked all over the Trash 80s.
"wrote my master's using nroff and troff."
wow this was all back when I was rebuilding valves in manholes. I haven't heard of most of these things. Guess I missed a lot of material for "you kids have it easy! Back in my day we had to" stories about how tough I had it on the puter.
When China told Google that they would have to turn over personally identifying information on GoogleGroups postings, Google refused to provide Googlegroups to the Chinese market.
Yahoo's equivalent? "Sure thing boss".
Fucking application providers. Can't trust them.
Res Ipsa, every time I go to Sephora, I drop more money than a human ever should.
I've got to stay out of that place, for at least another week.
4LG,
No, and I cannot believe this conversation.
I just dropped more money than I should have at Sephora. Fuck.
Do you want me to get you one (at discount?)
Sephora is a trap, ya know.
Blue team/red team?
fourlegsgood
NSA.
"I'm just set in my ways with my PC."
Same here.
Yeah, but who invented Liquid Paper?
I also use special software to produce bankruptcy forms.
It only works on a PC.
supergator likes blondes!!
and drunk guys too.
Sephora is a trap. But one I willingly walk into every time
"Yeah, but who invented Liquid Paper?"
Mike's mom, I think.
Gilly, a woman named Bette Nesmith, a legal secretary.
"Limited Discrimination and Tiering: this approach allows higher fees for QoS as long as there is no exclusivity in service contracts: If I pay to connect to the net with a given quality of service, and you pay to connect to the net with the same or higher quality of service, then you and I can communicate across the net, with that quality of service.[1]. [We] each pay to connect to the Net, but no one can pay for exclusive access to me."
I like it. I'd settle for that language. Is that official language or just some writers interpretation?
Yeah, but who invented Liquid Paper?
Gilly Gonzylon
the same guy who invented the bass-o-matic
Myself I think Adobe Acrobat is one of the coolest programs I've seen in a while.
Hell the Pets walked all over the Trash 80s.
EkCenTriK
Which PET, the 2001 or 4000?
I've got to stay out of that place, for at least another week.
Sephora is a trap, ya know.
It's like a fucking black hole. Otherwise intelligent women lose their minds and start flinging cash by the wheelbarrowful.
The place is a menace.
Oh christ that takes me back. How about NSF grants using carbon paper for all the damned copies they wanted?
spinoza
Wow, that even predates binding SAS line printouts into those weird-looking long binders. Got a few of those in my basement.
(BTW, NIH still wanted a dozen or so copies as of a couple of years ago. They are all electronic submission now. But the first cycle their web interface didn't work on Macs.)
Show me where FCC regs must be updated.
FCC regs must be updated to stop Eli.
Not to be a nitpicker here by whyinthehell weren't the Bush Father and son Fuck Up team at Lady Bird's funeral? One more case of disrespecting Dems?
DWD - Education Geek
reply, repost:
Those who carry the banner of The Southern Strategy know the code, they speak and act it.
NTodd, Facing north, looking over your right shoulder at about 160 degrees, there is a planet framed among five stars. If your sky is clear, could you edumacate me?
4LG,
No, thanks. I'm okay over here.
Spinoza, I never did carbon paper.
Monsieur was adamant I take advantage of the current technologies.
Well, I remember doing white out on the original and copies at 2 in the morning. And since this was well before fedex and such, we had a lab tech fly the grant to NIH the day of the deadline. For my post doc grant, I drove it to the address at NIH. I walked into this room with tables piled maybe five feet high with grants. The clerk took mine, gave it an accession stamp and threw it on the pile.
supergator likes blondes!!
and drunk guys too.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
Yum Yum
the same guy who invented the bass-o-matic
::matthew | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:51 pm | #
Actually, a woman....
Myself I think Adobe Acrobat is one of the coolest programs I've seen in a while.
I like that I can create a PDF and then no one can fuck with it.
Actually, a woman....
Gilly Gonzylon
Michael Nesmith's mother?
Google didn't provide, DoHS did. Google gave it to DoHS and avoided their role in it.
Patent nondenial.
supergator seems to like eating legs
Res, what did you buy at Sephora?
"Actually, a woman...."
With a famous son.
supergator likes blondes!!
and drunk guys too.
fourlegsgood, gots pitchfork
The reason drunk guys like blondes is they can't focus well enough to tell anything else about a woman, and they play the percentages...
I just got a newer faster scanner.
I am now in the process of tossing most of my paper.
One of his top aides, meanwhile, accused the United States of embarrassing the Iraqi government by violating human rights and treating his country like an "experiment in a U.S. lab."
Ummm, Al Maliki HAS met us, right? I mean, is this news to him?
You're the one who wants to change the status quo. Show me where the system has failed. Show me where FCC regs must be updated.
NTodd, Future Canadian Perv | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:48 pm | #
There is no status quo. Controversy boiled up after a 2002 FCC decision that operators could control DSL content which appeared to change the rules of the game, another FCC statement on content neutrality appeared in 2005. There is open warfare to control what happens next.
Not to be a nitpicker here by whyinthehell weren't the Bush Father and son Fuck Up team at Lady Bird's funeral? One more case of disrespecting Dems?
As I said earlier:
They sent the wives -- two women who are the direct opposite of Lady Bird Johnson
"This isn't a joke! People are dying!"
fourlegsgood: I like that I can create a PDF and then no one can fuck with it.
I can fuck with your PDFs all day long. What are you talking about?
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I like it. I'd settle for that language. Is that official language or just some writers interpretation?
It's what Tim Berners-Lee and other folks support as a concept. I'd be very happy with this in any reasonable NN amendment despite its redundancy because it doesn't place any undue burden on providers while placating people afraid of "discrimination." Sadly, none of the proposed legislation stops here, so I'm glad that Congress has as a whole agreed with me, the FCC and FTC.
Res, what did you buy at Sephora?
Oh shit, it was awful. This green stuff to take the red out of my complexion. The brown stuff to take the green out. Then this red stuff to take the brown out.
plus ...
Mascara (Lancome)
Blush (Nars)
Lip gloss (Nars)
Res, but yeah, it's so much fun to give up hard earned cash to things like...well, lipstick
Blue team/red team?
fourlegsgood
NSA.
JR, kerosene and a match
Like I said, I believe you're confusing me with someone, since I have no idea who did what when or where.
I am now in the process of tossing most of my paper.
Gomez | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:53 pm | #
British lurkers are having a laugh...
Okay, this is bullshit, in fact the high-end consptheor site we got it from actually introduces it by saying "this is bullshit", but it is worthy of a Sci-Fi Saturday night splatterfest:
TRIAD NINJAS AGAINST ILLUMINATI DEPOPULATORS!!
True story: IBM did a market analysis and decided that Xerox had a failed product because carbon paper was so cheap and did a good enough job copying. So they blew Xerox off, forcing Xerox to lease machines themselves to customers.
I don't wear makeup.
London Broil on the barbie, just finished powerwashing front deck down to bare wood, ready for stain. damn hard work to do it right. next time i'll be too old.
British lurkers are having a laugh...
Gilly Gonzylon
I think I know why.
I have no idea who did what when or where.
fourlegsgood
How conveeeenient.
Oh shit, it was awful. This green stuff to take the red out of my complexion. The brown stuff to take the green out. Then this red stuff to take the brown out.
plus ...
Mascara (Lancome)
Blush (Nars)
Lip gloss (Nars)
Hee hee.
But now you'll be beautimus!!!!
No one is immune to the pull of Sephora.
I remember the A.V. people from junior high school. Good times.
I can fuck with your PDFs all day long. What are you talking about?
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Jeffraham Prestonian
it's a bit harder if it's password protected...but sure, anything's breakable
There is no status quo.
Yes, there is. The FCC already stomps on providers who block/degrade service.
Controversy boiled up after a 2002 FCC decision that operators could control DSL content which appeared to change the rules of the game
Which decision? If it's what I think, it's another misinterpretation/misrepresentation.
another FCC statement on content neutrality appeared in 2005.
No, it was a public inquiry, not a statement. And after that, they determined they had the power to enforce existing regs in this context.
There is open warfare to control what happens next.
Yes, between content providers such as Google and the owners of the networks. Hmm...
"Which PET, the 2001 or 4000?"
I am joshing. The only PET experience I had was a short period in the local college. TRS-80s were also a minor exposure. I did have to baby a couple for several years since they were our CNC entry systems. Way out of date even then.
Res, Nars lipgloss is teh shit.
I love that stuff.
I just dropped more money than I should have at Sephora. Fuck
I did that last week.
And I hardly ever wear make up.
Had to have that Chanel bronzer though.
I am joshing.
EkCenTriK
*pout*
I owned a 2001.
President George W. Bush on Thursday acknowledged publicly for the first time that someone in his administration likely leaked the name of a CIA operative, although he also said he hopes the controversy over his decision to spare prison for a former White House aide has “run its course.”
“And now we’re going to move on,” Bush said in a White House news conference.
Had to have that Chanel bronzer though.
HoneyBearKelly
Ha! These two women next to me were going wild for that stuff.
"I owned a 2001.
JR, kerosene and a match"
Best I can muster is C-64s Rule!!!!
Sure the PM of Iraq asked us to leave.
But he was just being pissy.
We can stay.
calling it a night.
more on the fcc some other time.
Had to have that Chanel bronzer though.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:57 pm | #
I bought a bar of Dr Bronners Mint soap yesterday. Damn fine stuff.
HoneyBear,
That cop died. The young Russian kid. Twenty-three fucking years old.
True story: IBM did a market analysis and decided that Xerox had a failed product because carbon paper was so cheap and did a good enough job copying. So they blew Xerox off, forcing Xerox to lease machines themselves to customers.
Another true story: Thomas J Watson, Sr once famously declared that we'd only need about 6 computers in the entire world. Of course he was afraid that these new tabulating machines would cut into his card reader business. Once he saw that computers were a valuable business product, IBM changed tack and made them the cornerstone of a new strategy...with card readers as the I/O devices. Once customers had computers incorporated into their business processes, then Watson could wean them from card readers to other forms of I/O.
Best I can muster is C-64s Rule!!!!
EkCenTriK
The 2001 wasn't my first, but I had to share the 1130.
How conveeeenient.
JR, kerosene and a match
Jeez.
“And now we’re going to move on,” Bush said in a White House news conference.
the evildoers
It's amazing how when Republicans get caught with their pants around their ankles they want to put it all behind them.
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Speaking of old-school computing...
I used to print out divorce papers on a C-64.
I did that last week.
And I hardly ever wear make up.
Had to have that Chanel bronzer though.
Oh boy.
Powerpoint is disgusting. There isa a great website that shows what the Gettysburg Address would've been with pp.
the evildoers | Homepage | 07.14.07 - 10:41 pm | #
Edward Tufte is great on this topic. He blames overreliance on PowerPoint, in fact, for the inability of NASA engineers to get their message across on the dangers that the shuttle would blow up. It's not as crazy as it sounds.
HoneyBear,
That cop died. The young Russian kid. Twenty-three fucking years old.
Oh, damn.
The Brooklyn shooting?
Damn fine stuff.
Gilly Gonzylon | 07.14.07 - 10:59 pm |
Don't read the label too closely or you get switched out to the Bronnerverse. Confucius + Hillel + Jesus + Buddha + Quetzalcoatl + Baron Samedi & we're ALL ONE!!
It's amazing how when Republicans get caught with their pants around their ankles they want to put it all behind them.
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Agent Orange
Is that supposed to be a double entendre?
Wow, 3 minutes left and the gator sitll lives.
Ladies,
I had to have a picture taken and a friend came over today and was appalled b/c I had no make up except for mascara and lip gloss. So we went down there and bought all this crap. Now tomorrow she comes up here and we play Make Over and she takes my picture. Oy.
Sure the PM of Iraq asked us to leave.
But he was just being pissy.
We can stay.
Gomez
Time for an old Tom the Dancing Bug toon.
[Note the price of gas mentioned in the last panel--those were the days!]
Jeez.
fourlegsgood
How about not going on about other people's behaviour when you have a few beams in your own eye.
If your going to do a Gettysburg Address make sure your printer prints on envelopes.
Edward Tufte is great on this topic. He blames overreliance on PowerPoint, in fact, for the inability of NASA engineers to get their message across on the dangers that the shuttle would blow up. It's not as crazy as it sounds.
Death by Powerpoint!
One of my junior high science teachers built a Heathkit computer (this was around 1979 or so). The electronics were not very well grounded. He had to put it in its own room and you had to touch a metal chair before using it or else it kept getting fried. I remember playing that Star trek Game where each turn it displayed an ASCII grid and you would watch your photon torpedo go from the Enterprise (E) to the Klingon ship (K) for several turns before you found out whether it hit.
he hopes the controversy over his decision to spare prison for a former White House aide has “run its course.”
It isn't over till bush serves prison time.
Oh, damn.
The Brooklyn shooting?
Yeah. They have three guys in custody.
It's awful. Those two other kids -- auxillary cops -- got shot earlier this year.
res ipsa loquitur
Just this AM, husband was reminiscing about how at 25 "you finally see women without their masks and it is a scary, sobering experience."
How about not going on about other people's behaviour when you have a few beams in your own eye.
How about you go just ONE FUCKING day without being an obnoxious dick?
If your going to do a Gettysburg Address make sure your printer prints on envelopes.
LOL.
And apropos of nothing...
Is that supposed to be a double entendre?
Allie |
That sounds French!
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When I went to Pitt in the late 70's we had nerds who would stay up all night at our computer center playing Star Trek on a line printer off a PDP-10
One of my junior high science teachers built a Heathkit computer (this was around 1979 or so).
The Altair 8800? By then it had been around for a while, it predated the first PET. A friend of mine had one.
Speaking at the site the destruction of mountains of records, lampshades and paraphenalia from the recently settled war, Reichskanzler Rommel said today that he had discovered an enormous system of purges comparable to the Soviet gulag system, but worse in its reliance on slave labor, eugenics and mass murder. "I have made my peace between myself and the Creator, asked for his forgiveness and now regard the matter as closed. And now we're going to move on."
I had to have a picture taken and a friend came over today and was appalled b/c I had no make up except for mascara and lip gloss. So we went down there and bought all this crap. Now tomorrow she comes up here and we play Make Over and she takes my picture. Oy.
Well, you are naturally lovely, so you don't need much makeup.
If I were in town I'd come photograph you.
This first computer I ever used on a regular basis...
NORTHSTAR Advantage
http://www.old-computers.com/mus....asp?st=1&
c=652
That cop died. The young Russian kid. Twenty-three fucking years old.
That's awful.
Some asshole tried to rob the muni credit union around where I work.
Never mind that the Wall St. area is like the Green Zone. There are more cops and soldiers down there than in fucking Baghdad.
They were running around with their weapons drawn.
Something's going to happen here with that shit that's going to be ugly.
Oh, the cop died? What a damned shame. Immigrant kid, 23. Awful, awful.
"If your going to do a Gettysburg Address make sure your printer prints on envelopes."
That reminds me. Had two folks come in with some really old, tractor fed labels. They were marking them by hand with sharpies, maybe had two hundred left. They asked me if I could get a printer that would use those labels.
After myself, one of my techs and a sale director finished laughing, we introduced them to the concept of laser fed labels.
at 25 "you finally see women without their masks and it is a scary, sobering experience."
You mean when you wake up with them and they have no make-up on?
I have only ever worn mascar and lipstick. This is the first time I have ever had a little jar of brown stuff. I am sort of appalled.
We had an Atari 400 when I was a kid.
Can we has another won? This one is all slobbered on.
It's awful. Those two other kids -- auxillary cops -- got shot earlier this year.
Bummer.
Speaking of old-school computing...
dave™©
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