HULK SMASH!!!

Gravataraha


Gravatarat least it isn't tkk


Gravatarturd!


GravatarDamn you, liebniz!


GravatarYou blew it up, damn you!!


Gravatarliebniz = mrs duncan black

it's the only possible explanation.


GravatarSilly Season


GravatarI think NTodd could use some of that espresso, Atrios.


GravatarP. O'Neill, I dig your posts. Informational to the core. Like it should be.

Plus, you swung a mean bat for the Reds.


GravatarLast Eschacon I went to a place in the Reading Terminal Market called "Pearl's Oyster Bar" and ordered the oyster platter. They said, "We're out of oysters"

WTF?


Gravatarwell, folks, off to auditions - callbacks for the role of adam in 'west of eden'

i don't normally go for biblical roles, but this one should be right up my alley. alas, no garden-of-eden scenes as far as i know.


GravatarI don't think one state should have so much influence over the Democratic nominating process.

Wait, we're talking about Iowa, right?


GravatarI was talking about the last topic with my family at dinner last night.

It seems that the single disqualifier for being a commentator on the teebee is having been right about Iraq.


GravatarDrive by

Obama is getting much too much benefit from this passport 'imprudent curiosity' shit
/Sean Hannity


GravatarWhat were these people doing "out on the streets"?


GravatarTherefore, Hillary doesn't exist!


GravatarLast Eschacon I went to a place in the Reading Terminal Market called "Pearl's Oyster Bar" and ordered the oyster platter. They said, "We're out of oysters"

What month was it?


GravatarI saw a Huckabee sign on up a light post yesterday, but none for any of the other candidates. Huck Huck's got it in the bag!


Gravatarthe Reading Terminal Market

The burger on their website looks good...and I don't eat beef.


GravatarLast Eschacon I went to a place in the Reading Terminal Market called "Pearl's Oyster Bar" and ordered the oyster platter. They said, "We're out of oysters"

I'll bet nobody was reading, either.


Gravataryah think the mccain passport add on was an attempt by spin control to make all this snooping look bipartisan?

I was stunned by the stuff we dug up on privatizing Passport work. Another Gooper money grab with the usual tithing to the RNC and swift boat enabling groups.


Gravatarinstead of vampire bats from hell?
rootless-e | 03.22.08 - 12:35 pm | #


What the heck is wrong with vampire bats from hell?!


GravatarObama supporters are notoriously good blenderinners ...


GravatarLast Eschacon I went to a place in the Reading Terminal Market called "Pearl's Oyster Bar" and ordered the oyster platter. They said, "We're out of oysters"

Try the scrapples. They're almost like oysters.


GravatarTo stand a chance in PA, Obama has to pose with a dead buck.


GravatarAnother Gooper money grab with the usual tithing to the RNC and swift boat enabling groups.

And isn't privatizing supposed to improve efficiency? How far behind are they these days?


GravatarI think NTodd could use some of that espresso, Atrios.

Yes please.


GravatarTo stand a chance in PA, Obama has to pose with a dead buck.

wit'.


GravatarTimmeh just asked if Hillary has to give a speech embracing Rush Limbaugh and his ilk if she's going to win?

Seriously. WTF is this guy talking about? This is the "best journalist in America"? What a moron.


GravatarAck. I remember it was around Labor Day. So September. First month of oyster season, maybe they were off to slow start harvesting oysters that year.


GravatarTo stand a chance in PA, Obama has to pose with a dead buck.

And work 'jawn' into his stump speeches.


Gravatarisn't privatizing supposed to improve efficiency?

"Efficiency" is defined as "efficient political fundraising", just as "ownership society" is defined as "your asses belong to us".


Gravatar
What the heck is wrong with vampire bats from hell?!
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 03.22.08 - 12:52 pm | #


Geez, you can't even insult belgians without getting in trouble around here.


GravatarSo Lindsey is running on 1) family values, 2) tax cuts, and 3) staying the course in Iraq.

Strategerize, people!


GravatarI've seen one Obama bumper sticker, and one Obama yard sign. Clinton - nothing.

Lots of Ron Paul swag, though.

I am surrounded by idiots.


GravatarGeez, you can't even insult belgians without getting in trouble around here.
rootless-e


and don't even go near the huge reformed dutch bloc


Gravatarisn't privatizing supposed to improve efficiency?

I've been around private corps all my career, and I've never seen that to be a fact. When hard times hit, they either fold, or get bailed out by the gummint.


GravatarTimmeh just asked if Hillary has to give a speech embracing Rush Limbaugh and his ilk if she's going to win?
I didn't realize the "I got away with it" Oxycontin abuser bloc was such a decisive demographic.


GravatarPlus, you swung a mean bat for the Reds.

...elias sail e...


As Chimpy sez, Ah Apprushiate That.

But now I'm thinking about a slice of reading terminal pizza ... hungry ...


GravatarWhere are you Jen?

Ron Paul's still all over here, too.


GravatarI'm a Tampon.

Tampa, FLA


GravatarWhat the heck is wrong with vampire bats from hell?!
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins


Female librarian/vampires.
I think I discovered a new fetish.


GravatarSo Lindsey is running on 1) family values, 2) tax cuts, and 3) staying the course in Iraq.


Republicans have been running on Family Values for almost 2 decades and I can't think of one piece of legislation that resulted from it.


Gravatarand don't even go near the huge reformed dutch bloc

That's what the Prickstein's converted to after getting to America.


GravatarSaw a lot of Clinton supporters out on the streets today and not so many Obama supporters...

You are SO in the tank!


GravatarMcCain Exceeds Public Spending Cap
Sen. John McCain has officially broken the limits imposed by the presidential public financing system, reports filed last night show.
McCain has now spent $58.4 million on his primary effort. Those who have committed to public financing can spend no more than $54 million on their primary bid.

So has McCain broken the law? The answer is far from simple.
http:// tpmmuckraker.talkingpoint...ic_spending.php


GravatarRepublicans have been running on Family Values for almost 2 decades and I can't think of one piece of legislation that resulted from it.
Falstaff


The Stamp Out Single Mommies Act?


Gravatarisn't privatizing supposed to improve efficiency?
Yes, even after the huge commissions to the sales force, the large executive bonuses, the payola and the hush money is factored in.


GravatarI don't think that I've seen one Ron Paul sign here in MN. Don't know what that says about us...


GravatarLots of Ron Paul swag, though.

I am surrounded by idiots.
YellowDogJen


At least they're anti-war. That might translate into less votes for McInsane.


GravatarTimmeh just asked if Hillary has to give a speech embracing Rush Limbaugh and his ilk if she's going to win?



Timmeh is a waste of time, space and oxygen.


GravatarOops, apostrophe. Duh.


GravatarI'm a Tampon.



GravatarI've seen one Obama bumper sticker, and one Obama yard sign. Clinton - nothing.

I see plenty of both. Of course, this IS California.

Lots of Ron Paul swag, though.

I still see the big "Join the Ron Paul R-EVOL-ution" sign along one of the main drags in town. Could never figure out why "LOVE spelled backwards" was such a feature of that...


GravatarWell, Elias, that is true. I guess that's looking on the bright side!


GravatarSitting here staring at my new couch, which arrived 0:15 ago.

Skeert to sit on it. Don't want to wreck it.

Gonna let watertiger sit on it first.


Gravatar
Timmeh is a waste of time, space and oxygen.


And bacon. A lot of wasted bacon.


GravatarTampa, FLA
YellowDogJen


Woot woot! Represent!!!


GravatarI still see the big "Join the Ron Paul R-EVOL-ution" sign along one of the main drags in town. Could never figure out why "LOVE spelled backwards" was such a feature of that...
dave™©


Maybe it's Evil spelled badly.


GravatarSitting here staring at my new couch, which arrived 0:15 ago.

Skeert to sit on it. Don't want to wreck it.


Gotta get one of those stylish plastic covers.


GravatarChimpy sends a little valentine to Our China.


Gravatarres, I'll send my kids right down with nail polish, sharpies, and grape juice boxes.


They'll break it in.


GravatarGonna let watertiger sit on it first.

Can I sleep on it?


Gravatar back at Molly.

It's an old joke, kiddo.


GravatarSaw a lot of Clinton supporters out on the streets today and not so many Obama supporters


I've been seeing a lot of Obama people around.


GravatarOT:

I'd like to send out this long-distance dedication to Ouzo, Jr. and congratulate him for bowling a 289!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...h? v=uHTQqRN6TLk


GravatarDid you see me running up the steps of the Museum of Art?

I'm thinking of another comeback.


-


GravatarGotta get one of those stylish plastic covers.

I read about these guys here in NYC who cover their furniture with Saran wrap before parties.

Those parties must be fun. Not.


GravatarCan I sleep on it?

Any time you like.


GravatarRepublicans just seem to me to be kids who watched too many John Wayne movies in the 50's.

The fact that the United States has committed some nasty shit just doesn't compute with them.


GravatarObama is getting much too much benefit from this passport 'imprudent curiosity' shit
/Sean Hannity



How'd you get so fat, Sean?


GravatarSkeert to sit on it. Don't want to wreck it.

Gotta get one of those stylish plastic covers.
Zap Rowsdower


I had a roommate who wouldn't use things to make them last longer. I told him he wasted his money. When you wear something out, it's an indication that it was a good investment.


GravatarYou know, in Minnesota I never really saw that much of either Hillary or Obama supporters. I don't think being in the street is the way it goes.

Saw a lot of Rondroids, though. Who magically disappeared overnight. Were they all just imaginary?


GravatarWow, Monica! Cool!


Sure you don't want this one?


Gravatarisn't privatizing supposed to improve efficiency?
Yes, even after the huge commissions to the sales force, the large executive bonuses, the payola and the hush money is factored in.
George Johnston | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:00 pm | #


Excuse me, but that's not right. If those were unionized federal employees, they'd vote Democrat and their union would contribute to the Democrats. Since they are instead, underpaid contractors working for a crony republican company whose owners contribute directly to the Party, things are much more efficient in terms of keeping Republican control.


GravatarWell, Elias, that is true. I guess that's looking on the bright side!
YellowDogJen


If you get a chance, ask them about that. It would be interesting to know. I've only run into a few, but they tend towards not voting at all. And that's ok too, especially since that's a vote that would have gone to a fascist anyway.


GravatarI wanna new couch, too. WAAAHHHHH!


GravatarBillary is done. She will drop out before the end of the month. Out of money and proven to be as big of a liar as her husband.


GravatarSure you don't want this one?

ummmm... no!


GravatarSaw a lot of Rondroids, though. Who magically disappeared overnight. Were they all just imaginary?

I never saw any signs, or anything. Just an interview or two with one at the U.


GravatarWith privatization comes two results:
rising of costs and lowering of services.


Gravatardo you think maybe imus put the pressure on richardson to come out for barack. we know imus hates hillary to the extreme and he still is pissed at bills blow job. maybe imus has tapes of richardson screwing a goat on his ranch.


Gravatar Sitting here staring at my new couch, which arrived 0:15 ago.

Skeert to sit on it. Don't want to wreck it.

Gonna let watertiger sit on it first.


I'll call my friend Poppy and have him sit on it.


Gravatar
ummmm... no!


Good call!


GravatarI never saw any signs, or anything. Just an interview or two with one at the U.
Zap Rowsdower


Really? Wow. I saw giant signs all over the place, and cars driving around with their sides covered with giant Ron Paul magnet signs.


GravatarI wanna new couch, too. WAAAHHHHH!

These absolutely crazy people paid me $200 for my 10YO couch, which was pretty beat to crap (and never all that comfortable, to tell you the truth). I jumped at it. I've been here without a couch for about three months since they took it.


GravatarAny time you like.

Well, I wasn't actually fishing for free lodging. I meant is long enough? Is it plush enough? Is it cold enough?


GravatarI'll call my friend Poppy and have him sit on it.

It's not a pizza until it comes OUT of the oven!


Gravatarbillary is done? keep pissing off us old white guys, you will miss us in nov.


GravatarLots of Obama bumper stickers in Madison. And a few scratched off spots that used to have Bush 04 stickers on them.


GravatarOff for a fun day of food shopping. Be good to each other. Mother of the dude abides!


GravatarSorry, rootless, I forgot the snark emoticon.


GravatarEvery time I consider redecorating, I see some one else writing on the walls. When SP is five, I'll redo the whole shebang.


GravatarI've been here without a couch for about three months since they took it.
res ipsa loquitur


During Hockey season? I didn't think that was possible.


GravatarI watched "U.S. versus John Lennon" last night and was blown away with the parallels to today.

Despite 40 years of hindsight here we are with the same lies, same crimes, same fucking stupid tragedy, 5 years and no end in sight, and the final comedic nugget is that Mr.100-year-war is the Republicans' top choice.

It's going to be sweet watching the thugs get wiped off the face of the planet in November.


GravatarI'll call my friend Poppy and have him sit on it.

HA!

Hey. This Manhattan Minx gave you a shout-out.


GravatarPuppethead,

I should say, I don't get out much. Just DT St. Paul and, on occasion, over to South Minneapolis to visit my folks.


Gravatarbillary is done? keep pissing off us old white guys, you will miss us in nov.

Because president is the only election this November?


GravatarI love new furniture, res. It's great you found someone to buy your old stuff. Mine's so beat up I don't think the trash guys will even take it.


GravatarI'll call my friend Poppy and have him sit on it.
The Kenosha Kid


[squirting hot chamomile tea from nose]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

)))


GravatarMolly,

Writing on walls is not an issue here, but I always said I'd redecorate when I was here 10 years, which I will be in August. All I need now is a rug and it's done. There is a lot less stuff in the place, which is making me happy.


GravatarSo Lindsey is running on 1) family values, 2) tax cuts, and 3) staying the course in Iraq.


Republicans have been running on Family Values for almost 2 decades and I can't think of one piece of legislation that resulted from it.
Falstaff

Snow, wasn't there some parable about casting the first stone?

Or, perhaps if he brings up values, there's the classic splinter in my eye versus the log in your eye...


GravatarWith privatization comes two results:
rising of costs and lowering of services.
Bobby St. Chomsky

The Park Service also noted they would lose a huge number of volunteers if it was privatized.


Gravataronly election? for some of us, yes.


GravatarSaw a lot of Rondroids, though. Who magically disappeared overnight. Were they all just imaginary?

Like Chuck Norris, they're just waiting.....


Gravatarbillary is done? keep pissing off us old white guys, you will miss us in nov.

Yes she is done and the country will be celebrating the end of the corrupt Clintons.

Vote for McCain then, he is just like Hillary


Gravatar"I should say, I don't get out much. Just DT St. Paul and, on occasion, over to South Minneapolis to visit my folks."

Is "Nordeast" Mpls. still there? My father-in-law used to own a family bakery in the area. Charming working class neighborhood.


GravatarJen,

I put that stupid couch up on Craig's List for $150 and had 15 emails in 0:30. The people who bought it paid me $50 to hold it until they got back from vacation.


GravatarBe good to each other, bats. See you later!


GravatarJen,

P.S. Put it on Craig's List for "FREE!" Someone will take it.


GravatarLater Jen...


GravatarI love new furniture, res. It's great you found someone to buy your old stuff. Mine's so beat up I don't think the trash guys will even take it.
YellowDogJen | 03.22.08 - 1:10 pm | #


Ship it up to my neighborhood. Nothing stays of the curb more than half an hour.


GravatarBush will be in Zagreb in April, and in the papers today it was reported that he "wishes to speak to the Croatian people".

The paper replied "Sure, the only reason he wants to talk to us is that nobody in the U.S. wants to listen to him".



Gravatarbillary is done? keep pissing off us old white guys, you will miss us in nov.
hilldick | 03.22.08 - 1:08 pm | #


you'll miss us when we're gone
and the cold winds blow
but we'll be sulking
for mccain
you know

so don't forget
all us bitter old white guys
we'll join the klan
give you kids a suprise

send your ass to iraq
for 100 years war
teach you not to diss
us bitter old white guys
no more.


Gravatar
Is "Nordeast" Mpls. still there? My father-in-law used to own a family bakery in the area. Charming working class neighborhood.


Oh, yeah.

Still fairly blue-collar, with a lot of artists moving over there to occupy all of the old warehouses. I'm actually heading that way tonight. I really like that area.


Gravatarvote for saint john, no thanks, ill stay home.


GravatarAll just one big misunderstanding:

White House destroyed hard drives.»

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03...ed-hard-drives/

No one could have ever imagined that taking a sledgehammer to such fragile things could cause them to be destroyed.


GravatarRoadmaster, you disc-spinner estroadinare! Are you doing a show tonight?


GravatarI just now realized that when people talk about whitey, they're talking about me.

And since I'm the man now, there's gonna be some changes around here.


Gravatarnot liking saint obama=the klan,
fuck you, mo=ron.


Gravatar Hey. This Manhattan Minx gave you a shout-out.

I noticed. Fez Boy & Friends must get a lot of traffic, I got a couple dozen hits from that.

Also, it's a pizza as soon as you pound your fists into the dough.


GravatarNo one could have ever imagined that taking a sledgehammer to such fragile things could cause them to be destroyed.
Monica_A: Rejuvenated!

That sure would have solved Oliver North's shredders overheating problem.


GravatarBillary is done. She will drop out before the end of the month. Out of money and proven to be as big of a liar as her husband.
nthrc-hates hillary | 03.22.08 - 1:06 pm | #


For me it was the Khuzestan/One World Government Revelations, and the Super Duper Secret Bible Study Group I learned on DKos. And seeing Dick Morriss quotes on the front page there was no turning back.


Gravatar"Still fairly blue-collar, with a lot of artists moving over there to occupy all of the old warehouses. I'm actually heading that way tonight. I really like that area."

Artists are the vanguard of gentrification. I hope that isn't the case with lovely old Nordeast. Raise a glass for me at Jacks ... (Polonaise Room?) if it's still there.


GravatarShip it up to my neighborhood. Nothing stays of the curb more than half an hour.

Here, too, which is weird, because about 15 cars pass our house on a busy day.


GravatarMine's so beat up I don't think the trash guys will even take it.

Check out freecycle. I don't remember if it is .com or .org but google it and check out your area.


Gravatarnot liking saint obama=the klan,
fuck you, mo=ron.
hilldick | 03.22.08 - 1:14 pm | #


Not voting for the Democrat is voting for the war.

And for Scalia II on the SC

And for the police state.

And the war in Iran.

Enjoy sulking.


GravatarIs "Nordeast" Mpls. still there? My father-in-law used to own a family bakery in the area. Charming working class neighborhood.
montanaheadcold


Oh heck yes, it's like 1/4 of Minneapolis. And still pretty much the same as it ever was.


GravatarSo why isn't Bush's vanity invasion considered an earmark?


GravatarArtists are the vanguard of gentrification. I hope that isn't the case with lovely old Nordeast. Raise a glass for me at Jacks ... (Polonaise Room?) if it's still there.

Nye's...and it's still there.

I think it'll be just fine.


GravatarExcuse me, MP, but you're The Man.


Gravataronly election? for some of us, yes.

Such dedication to democracy...


Gravatardmark, now with 6 more inches

/raises eyebrow


GravatarAnd seeing Dick Morriss quotes on the front page there was no turning back.

That's when I knew Hillary might still have a chance.


Gravatar"Oh heck yes, it's like 1/4 of Minneapolis. And still pretty much the same as it ever was. "

AHHHH (Sigh of relief).


GravatarPrediction?

Pain.


-


Gravataronly election? for some of us, yes.

So not US senate or house race? No state races? No local races? How lovely for you.


GravatarAnd seeing Dick Morriss quotes on the front page there was no turning back.
dumb fuck | 03.22.08 - 1:14 pm | #


Sad how Dick Morris turned on his old friends Hillary and Mark Penn.


GravatarI put that stupid couch up on Craig's List for $150 and had 15 emails in 0:30. The people who bought it paid me $50 to hold it until they got back from vacation. -res ipsa loquitur

could you sell my Jeep Grand Wagoneer?
it has the simulated wood-paneling and everything ...


Gravatarone thing right wingers drove home to me the last thirty years. hold grudges, cause shit matters.


Gravatar/raises eyebrow



~
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Gravataronly election? for some of us, yes.

Oh? Your US Representative doesn't get elected every two years?


GravatarWell, that didn't work. Haloscan is very tricky.


Gravatar~
~
o o
u


Say wha?


GravatarWhen you don't vote, your representatives are not being held accountable.


Gravatar I meant is long enough? Is it plush enough? Is it cold enough?

It's long enough. It's not plush, but I think it's comofortable.

"Cold enough?" What's that about?


GravatarExcuse me, MP, but you're The Man.
Molly Ivors, Sick


Oh fuck, I'd be the shittiest bossman there ever was. Late every day. Confused at every question put to me.


Gravatarone thing right wingers drove home to me the last thirty years. hold grudges, cause shit matters.
hilldick


That works both ways, Slappy. If you sit out all the other races because your favorite presidential candidate loses, you will deserve all the shit that comes your way.


GravatarWe would have won the Iraq war sooner if not for all of he imprudently curious low level staffers.

-Deadeye Dick Cheney


GravatarHere, too, which is weird, because about 15 cars pass our house on a busy day.

Around here, people talk about what they see on the curb.

I wish someone would take away that old toilet the neighbor has out behind his fence, though.


Gravatar
~
~
o o
u
Molly Ivors, Sick


That's super silly sis.


Gravatarone thing right wingers drove home to me the last thirty years. hold grudges, cause shit matters.
hilldick | 03.22.08 - 1:18 pm | #


Absolutely. when the lefties abandoned HHH and let Humphrey win, it taught the Democrats a lesson!


GravatarArticle in the NYT's odious "Styles" section tells the middle class it would be very bad for them if the all the rich people in the city lost their jobs. We should rejoice in the wealthy who are pushing us out of our homes.


Gravatar"Cold enough?" What's that about?

A cool surface. That doesn't retain heat.


GravatarOh fuck, I'd be the shittiest bossman there ever was. Late every day. Confused at every question put to me.
MP

You sound like management material to me.


GravatarSo sad about the mozzarella di buffalo!
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com....html? ref=world


GravatarWell, this one works.



~~


oo
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but that's more shocked surprise, not arch recognition.


GravatarWe should rejoice in the wealthy who are pushing us out of our homes.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:22 pm | #


My investment banker friend in NY was looking for 2bedroom apts, but sez $2M still won't buy you much.

Oy.


GravatarA cool surface. That doesn't retain heat.

I think it's cold enough, then.

I'd host you any time, seriously.


GravatarLooks like an espresso day for Dad.


GravatarCaught the end of a story on CNN this am that mentioned a state in which HRC won the pop vote, but since then, a majority of delegates have switched to Obama.

What was that about the pop vote mattering?


Gravatarhold grudges, cause shit matters.

and if you collect enough of it, you might wind up full of shit.


GravatarOh fuck, I'd be the shittiest bossman there ever was. Late every day. Confused at every question put to me.

Hell. You're qualified to run GM.


Gravatarbut that's more shocked surprise, not arch recognition.

I was trying to convey a not-entirely-innocent curiosity.


GravatarSpeaking of Dirty Fucking Hippies, make sure to pre-order your t-shirts!


Gravatar"Obama people did have a registration table at the Reading Terminal Market "

i love these types of places, here's 'mine':

http://www.westsidemarket.com/


Gravatari thought the - - s were to mark the resting point of the eyebrow so

~ ~



_ _
0 0

indicates higher eyebrows than

~~
--
00

Is that wrong?


Gravatar- ^
0 0
(U)

The parentheses are dimples.


GravatarOy.

A one-bedroom next door (neighborhood considered unacceptable to most about 10 years ago) just went for $550K. Bidding war. Insane.


GravatarI wish someone would take away that old toilet the neighbor has out behind his fence, though. -theodoric of athens

ask not for whom the toilet sits ...


GravatarIs that wrong?

Works for me!


GravatarArticle in the NYT's odious "Styles" section tells the middle class it would be very bad for them if the all the rich people in the city lost their jobs. We should rejoice in the wealthy who are pushing us out of our homes.
res ipsa loquitur


Well, sure.

If all the rich people leave town, you won't be able to get a job as nanny to their spoiled brats after your company ships your job to China.


GravatarRoadmaster, you disc-spinner estroadinare! Are you doing a show tonight?
...elias sail e...

Hey Elias -

It's my week off. Art will be running the board.

Not sure if I'll next be on-air next week, or in two weeks, or both...Trying to set up some interviews.


GravatarSpeaking of Dirty Fucking Hippies, make sure to pre-order your t-shirts!

Hmmmm.


GravatarOh, Toonscribe, that works!


Gravatarhello moonbats


Gravatari love these types of places, here's 'mine':

Now that's funny, b/c here's 'mine':

West Side Market.


GravatarA A
0 0
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GravatarOh, Toonscribe, that works!

I live to serve.


GravatarA one-bedroom next door (neighborhood considered unacceptable to most about 10 years ago) just went for $550K. Bidding war. Insane.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:26 pm | #


And I coulda bought a brownstone on Duke Ellington Blvd 20 years ago, if i'd had 200K in the bank instead of 200.


GravatarObamites and Hillaryphils might enhance their chances and their country's future by directing their venom against McCain rather than each other. May the nomination go to that candidate landing the most heaviest blows on Mr. McCain and his ilk. Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Mr. McCain double-teamed?


GravatarCaught the end of a story on CNN this am that mentioned a state in which HRC won the pop vote

I read that as 'won the poo vote'.

And i thought....sure, why not?


GravatarAnswering the wrong question


GravatarAnd I coulda bought a brownstone on Duke Ellington Blvd 20 years ago, if i'd

You mean 106th Street?


GravatarManimal! - The government faces mounting dissent over controversial embryo laws after the Archbishop of Cardiff joined calls for a free vote on the legislation.

The Most Reverend Peter Smith has advised MPs to vote against a bill which allows the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos for research.

He joins other leading Catholics and Catholic MPs demanding to be allowed to vote in line with their conscience.

But Health Minister Ben Bradshaw said it was right to push through the law.

Mr Bradshaw told the BBC the legislation would be "to the potential benefit of many people in this country".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/ 7309445.stm


GravatarYou mean 106th Street?
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:30 pm | #


That's what some people call it.


Gravatar/raises eyebrow

It's all about snow.


GravatarI just put some minutes on my already passe pay-as-you-go cell phone. Now, all I've gotta do is change my underwear, and I'm ready for Philly.


Gravatar106 between Bway and RSide is nice.


GravatarWell, kids. I'm on Spring Break, and my sinuses are aching again, so I'm off to bed for a bit.

Have a lovely one!


Gravatar"Cold enough?" What's that about?

A cool surface. That doesn't retain heat.
Forgive me for this 'cuz I don't quite remember all of it

There once was a girl named Alice
Who fashioned an icicle phallus
She smiled quite nicely
but said somewhat icily
"It cools my device quite precisely"


Gravatar Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Mr. McCain double-teamed?

By Cindy and the Icelady?


GravatarIt's all about snow.

Tragic.


GravatarArticle in the NYT's odious "Styles" section tells the middle class it would be very bad for them if the all the rich people in the city lost their jobs. We should rejoice in the wealthy who are pushing us out of our homes.
res ipsa loquitur

Because just as Wall Street can't make money when people buy and hold, Real Estate can't make money when people buy and hold.

Fear generates sales. And sales generate profits.


GravatarI read that as 'won the poo vote'.

Ooh, I forgot to blog my morning poop! Thanks for reminding me.


GravatarLeaving this sector of the galaxy.


GravatarArticle in the NYT's odious "Styles" section tells the middle class it would be very bad for them if the all the rich people in the city lost their jobs. We should rejoice in the wealthy who are pushing us out of our homes.
res ipsa loquitur
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It just might work. Big corporations have been able to convince people that unions are really the bad guys and that nobody really needs them anymore.

We must keep the rich happy and content or they will make us all suffer for it. That is why WE are paying out hundreds of billions of dollars to save greedy stupid bankers while they float down in their platinum parachutes to continue in their lifestyle of the rich and stupid.


GravatarOoh, I forgot to blog my morning poop! Thanks for reminding me.
NTodd†


I, too, live to serve......


GravatarMaybe when McCain is back in Murka he'll tell us what happened to his eye

http://www.dependablerenegade.co...ike-a- good.html


Gravatar"Now that's funny, b/c here's 'mine':"

HA! that's about the only thing i miss about urban living. after work i'd get off the rapid, walk up a few stairs and there it was. fresh food just about every day. the produce was incredibly cheap.

from the suburbs it's now a haul and don't make it very often.


Gravatar106 between Bway and RSide is nice.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:31 pm | #


I once got to visit Gerald Lefcourt's apartment on Riverside. Those are the best apartments in the city. must cost billions by now.


GravatarMaybe when McCain is back in Murka he'll tell us what happened to his eye

http://www.dependablerenegade.co...ade.co...ike-a- good.html
P O'Neill
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Is Lieberman working him from behind???


Gravatarheh my mum and sister are off to Oman tomorrow

flying from Bristol, changing planes at Amsterdam Airport (Schiphol) which flies direct to Oman (with an hour stop in Kuwait)

i would not be surprised if they do fly over Iraq


GravatarI'll direct my venom at st. mccain after hillary wakes up and does the right and inevitable thing for the good of country and party.


GravatarGotta go cook the Easter Gelodecz. Later.


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GravatarTeachers have escalated their dispute with the government by voting to ballot on a campaign of industrial action over pay, workload and class sizes.

The National Union of Teachers (NUT) will ballot members on a series of possible walkouts in England and Wales.

The move came after delegates at the union's annual conference in Manchester condemned the prime minister's approach to limiting public sector workers' pay.

The NUT is already balloting on a one-day walkout over pay on 24 April.

The ballot closes at the end of the month and if successful will lead to the first national strike for 22 years.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/educa...ion/ 7309619.stm


GravatarJust shelved a whole bunch of books that had been piling up on my dresser. I'm a bit OCD about books. Stamp w/ my name on the front inside page. Library of Congress call number on the spine. Shelved via same. But it does make them easier to find later and saves me going back and forth: well, this is religious history. Does it go w/ religion or history? A professional has already done all that!


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woman with monocle smoking cig...


Gravatarflying from Bristol, changing planes at Amsterdam Airport (Schiphol) which flies direct to Oman (with an hour stop in Kuwait)

i would not be surprised if they do fly over Iraq
Moonbootica, Employed


It's a very steep descent into Kuwait. They can't go too low over Iraq.


GravatarWell that fucking backfired!!


GravatarArticle in the NYT's odious "Styles" section tells the middle class it would be very bad for them if the all the rich people in the city lost their jobs. We should rejoice in the wealthy who are pushing us out of our homes.
res ipsa loquitur


Skimming through that article, the writer presents a false choice of either you accept the excesses of the megarich or you get stuck with 1970's bankruptcy. What bullshit.


GravatarMy cubism period.


GravatarI'll direct my venom at st. mccain after hillary wakes up and does the right and inevitable thing for the good of country and party.

How dedicated to democracy you are!


GravatarWell that fucking backfired!!

Haloscan is a difficult taskmaster.


Gravatarof course Oman is located next to Saudi and Yemen and across the water is Iran!


GravatarInteresting:

Crystal meth use among gay men may seem an odd impetus for a work of choral music, but that didn't stop the Twin Cities Gay Men's Chorus from commissioning one.


GravatarMaverick makes Gordo look less weird

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...33814485a683d5/


GravatarOfficers looking for a man who raided a jewellers while wearing a burka are investigating a similar incident.

A man thought to be wearing a burka threatened a security driver in Birmingham on 14 March with what is thought to be a firearm before fleeing.

Last Thursday, an armed robber pushing a child's buggy and disguised as a woman in a burka went to the Friends Jewellers in Smethwick, West Midlands.

He was joined by four other men who smashed cabinets before fleeing.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/engla...nds/ 7309548.stm


Gravatarof course Oman is located next to Saudi and Yemen and across the water is Iran!
Moonbootica, Employed


Cheney did a mysterious "fishing trip" on the Sultan's boat across from Iran.


Gravatar"How dedicated to democracy..."




If only hillary shared your perspective.


GravatarWhat bullshit.
Florida


Si. The NYT sucks utterly.


GravatarBill Clinton doesn't think Obama loves America. Perhaps it is because of that middle name, or maybe it is because he is really black and not just passing like Bill did for years.

Whatever. The only two candidates that love this country are Hillary and McCain.

Bill should do us all a favor and go find Monica and amuse himself to death.


GravatarMaverick makes Gordo look less weird

I know that this is a racist, sexist county, with a media that is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Republican party and that voting is done on Diebold machines. Still, I just can't make myself believe that John McCain is going to win in November. He's just so mid-twentieth century.


GravatarCheney did a mysterious "fishing trip" on the Sultan's boat across from Iran.

Did he hook the Sultan in the face?


GravatarMcCain't the picture of health.


GravatarGordon Brown has his own special brand of weirdness


GravatarRelated to that NYT article, we've got a ton of condos in downtown Tampa that they thought were going to sell as soon as they were finished. I remember looking at the prices they wanted and my jaw just dropped.

One of the people I was having drinks with yesterday is now moving into those condos--she said the bank foreclosed the developer and they're now renting them out for fairly cheap.


GravatarCheney did a mysterious "fishing trip" on the Sultan's boat across from Iran.


I shudder to imagine what he might use for bait


GravatarBill should do us all a favor and go find Monica and amuse himself to death.
foolme1ns

What, and leave Gennifer Flowers out of a potential three-way?


GravatarZap,

Don't know about the Twin Cities GMC, but the NY one is absolutely amazing. Voices so gorgeous they give you chills.


Gravatarand if McCain does win?


GravatarCheney did a mysterious "fishing trip" on the Sultan's boat across from Iran.

Did he hook the Sultan in the face?
Toonscribe: Grumpy
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I wish a sting ray would beat him to death.


GravatarStill, I just can't make myself believe that John McCain is going to win in November. He's just so mid-twentieth century.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:43 pm | #


I think he has a real shot. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the moment, people split their vote in November.

He needs to be revealed for what he really is ... a nutty, ill-tempered, poorly informed warmonger.


GravatarDid he hook the Sultan in the face?
Toonscribe: Grumpy
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Ah, now I understand why the Sultan publicly apologized for resembling a sturgeon!


GravatarBill should do us all a favor and go find Monica and amuse himself to death.
foolme1ns

What, and leave Gennifer Flowers out of a potential three-way?
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
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He can gather together all of his bimbos as far as I am concerned. He just needs to shut the f*ck up. He's turning into the biggest embarrassment of this campaign.


Gravatarand if McCain does win?

You get lots of house guests.


GravatarHecate,

I've seen clips of their performances. They are quite good.

And now, I must feed myself. Later.


GravatarMcCain is old and confused -- keep repeating it -- anyone who has dealt with an aged loved one knows that you can care about someone and not want them responsible for anything -- McCain is old & confused -- remind people of that -- let him dent it -- that reminds people that he is old and confused (rinse & repeat until this country elects a white woman or a black man -- I hope)


Gravatarand if McCain does win?

We're in for a world of hurt. He's an idiot -- absolute bottom of his class. He's got no ideals or ideas. He will be a disaster.


GravatarHe needs to be revealed for what he really is ... a nutty, ill-tempered, poorly informed warmonger.
Brooklyn Girl


Agreed, but so far the MSM is totally in the tank for the guy.


GravatarIs Lieberman still allowed to caucus with Democrats?


GravatarBig Time's fishing expedition

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...ve_n_92314.html


GravatarIf only hillary shared your perspective.

Of course she should just bow out instead of campaigning! That's what democracy is all about! Good on ya!


Gravatar"Do these people even want to be changed?" -Iraq Occupation vet, on what she was thinking when she first got in country.


Damn, the outlook from our military pisses me off.


Gravatarthat reminds people that he is old and confused (rinse & repeat until this country elects a white woman or a black man -- I hope)
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 1:46 pm | #


Yup. Old & confused works for me.

So does this: in order to enact his ME policy, he's going to have to reinstate the draft.


GravatarcCain is old & confused -- remind people of that -- let him dent it -- that reminds people that he is old and confused (rinse & repeat until this country elects a white woman or a black man -- I hope)

Come sit over here by me.


GravatarMcCain needs to be in a good home, not the White House. Lieberman could go with him to keep correcting his mistakes.


GravatarStill, I just can't make myself believe that John McCain is going to win in November. He's just so mid-twentieth century.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

Agreed. The Bush/McCain demographics skew highly towards retired Buick drivers with a curio cabinet of 23 different commemorative baubles celebrating American Triumphalism (is that a word?) - from Iwo Jima to Chosin to Midway to Grenada.


Gravatarwhether its the pessimists in me but i just have this vision of voters been drawn to McCain

he's white, he's old, he's a vet, to those less well informed he doesn't appear radical, his two possible opponents are slogging it out

part of me just doesn't think radicalism and stuff like that is not a winner in America at the moment

from my perspective voters do appear conservative

but who knows, perhaps it will turn out ok


Gravatar"Do these people even want to be changed?" -Iraq Occupation vet, on what she was thinking when she first got in country.

Seems an appropriate question for America.


GravatarOne of the people I was having drinks with yesterday is now moving into those condos--she said the bank foreclosed the developer and they're now renting them out for fairly cheap.

Look for lots more of this. Price-rent ratio is still more than twice what it ought to be, and at the moment you can't make half your mortgage service from rent.

Eventually, all those people who are losing their homes to foreclosure are going to have to go somewhere, bidding rents up as prices continue to drop. But we've got a long way to go yet.


GravatarDemocracy = clinton cynicism and triangulation 4-eva!


GravatarDemocracy = clinton cynicism and triangulation 4-eva!
Obamite | 03.22.08 - 1:49 pm | #


So does that mean you are admitting that you prefer fascism over democracy?


GravatarMcCain was NOT at the absolute bottom of his class! (4th from the bottom or thereabouts, IIRC)

But that doesn't really mean anything -- I was 5th from the top of my class & I would be a lousy president -- as General Pickett (last in his class) said, "The Yankees got all the smart ones and see what good it's done them (this was before Gettysburg)


GravatarAm I elected yet?


GravatarMcCain's just too fucking old. The President of the United States needs to be younger than 71.


Gravatar"Do these people even want to be changed?" -Iraq Occupation vet, on what she was thinking when she first got in country.
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what arrogance!!!! Perhaps they may have wanted a change, but I'll bet most of them were hoping for better than this. Now you have them wishing for Saddam back. That's how great this whole thing is.

To them, Saddam was better than what they have now.


GravatarThe Bush/McCain demographics skew highly towards retired Buick drivers with a curio cabinet of 23 different commemorative baubles celebrating American Triumphalism (is that a word?) - from Iwo Jima to Chosin to Midway to Grenada.

nicely put


GravatarNTodd, we're going to give it one last shot.  Monsieur and I will visit Mlle today.  We're going to process group.  All we want is the truth from her.  If she isn't sorry, and plans to abandon her family, we need to know that.

I'm bracing myself for the worst, and hoping for the best.


GravatarBig Time's fishing expedition

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...ve_n_92314.html
P O'Neill

Fishing? More like planting sabotage blast caps onthe undersea telecom/Internet cables.


GravatarStill, I just can't make myself believe that John McCain is going to win in November. He's just so mid-twentieth century.
Hecate


They're gonna put him on stage at a debate with HRC and it will look like he's standing next to his daughter. If he's next to BHO he'll look like he's standing next to the illegitimate grandson the GOP would have accused him of having in 2000.

He's a catatonic old fart and he's going to get clobbered in November.


GravatarAm I elected yet?

You were appointed in 2000 and 2004.


GravatarIt's probably just a coincidence that the Clinton campaign is dropping Celine Dion's "You and I" as their campaign theme in favor of Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler".


GravatarThe Bush/McCain demographics skew highly towards retired Buick drivers with a curio cabinet of 23 different commemorative baubles celebrating American Triumphalism (is that a word?) - from Iwo Jima to Chosin to Midway to Grenada

My father is a Vet of Chosin, and he drives an GMC Sonoma pickup, lowered and seamed.


GravatarA tale of two pastors.


GravatarMoonbootica -- right now I would bet on a McCain win -- it might very well come down to who can carry Ohio & on Saturday 22 March that is probably McCain ("No one every lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American people")


GravatarHow long before the neocons are going with the Betrayus angle?

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03...t-that-fragile/


GravatarThe Bush/McCain demographics skew highly towards retired Buick drivers with a curio cabinet of 23 different commemorative baubles celebrating American Triumphalism (is that a word?) - from Iwo Jima to Chosin to Midway to Grenada.

Well, one thing we old foggies do is vote. But I just can't see independents or soccer moms breaking for McCain. The Dem gets the women, the African Americans, the Latinos, and even some crazy old white men I don't think it will be the blow-out that some people think it will, and I agree w/ Brooklyn that some folks will split their votes to get a Dem Congress and a Repuke WH, but, in the end, and maybe this is just me listening to my own biases, I think America's ready to try something new after 7 years of Bush. I sure hope so, because I have a G/Son who's going to have to live in this world into the 22nd Century. He's quantum leaps ahead of where I was at 2 yrs. old (I gave him his first computer this week) and he needs new ideas and a focus on preserving the Earth, peace, diversity, caring for people.


GravatarNo... really.

Am I elected yet?


GravatarMcCain's just too fucking old. The President of the United States needs to be younger than 71.
MP

Fred Rogers would have just turned 80. I'd vote for him over any younger GOOPer.


GravatarProbably not the help that Bill Clinton needs, but a Cornholer is defending him

http:// corner.nationalreview.com...TNlYzAxMDY3ZGQ=


GravatarWell, Atrios, at least you have local activity.

Here in disenfranchisement central, we had absolutely nothing except a little circle in which we could blot for "uncommitted" or "Hillary Rodham Clinton."

I'm not enamoured with this year's presidential election, to say the least.


GravatarI was 5th from the top of my class & I would be a lousy president

As my undergraduate advisor told his class once: in ten years, the A students will be working for the B students, and the B students will be working for the C students.

I did my best to be a mediocre student, but it hasn't paid off the way I thought it would. Maybe I just have a bad attitude.


Gravatarchange also scares people


GravatarJohn McCain's America: Love it or get offa my lawn!


GravatarThey're gonna put him on stage at a debate with HRC and it will look like he's standing next to his daughter. If he's next to BHO he'll look like he's standing next to the illegitimate grandson the GOP would have accused him of having in 2000.
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This is going to sound terrible, so I know what to expect, but if McCain stands up on the stage to debate Obama, his constituency is going to wonder why he is debating a lawn jockey.

I'm sorry.

Perhaps at the debates, whichever one it is, HRC or BHO they could start by bringing McCain a small dish of tapioca pudding


GravatarSallyh-

Looks like the 8 of swords from here-

http://www.learntarot.com/s8.htm


GravatarMy father is a Vet of Chosin, and he drives an GMC Sonoma pickup, lowered and seamed.
Barndog, fucking snow again

KEWL. Pinstripes?


GravatarOne of the people I was having drinks with yesterday is now moving into those condos--she said the bank foreclosed the developer and they're now renting them out for fairly cheap.

My condo was rented out with a lease to buy option when the developer couldn't sell them. Ended up a damn good deal for people who bought them.


Gravatarspeaking of gerald lefcourt and mid 20th century.

http://www.markrudd.com/


Gravatarchange also scares people

This is why I give no quarter.


Gravatarchange also scares people

It does, but when things are as fucked up as they are in the States right now (and remember, we're a very spoiled lot of selfish bastards), people are disillusioned, so change doesn't have the taint of fear that it often does.


GravatarYou were appointed in 2000 and 2004.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I want to be elected, not appointed. I'm already a pointed. I pledge to not invade New Jersey.


GravatarMcCain's just too fucking old. The President of the United States needs to be younger than 71.

Life expectancy at birth is what, 73? Surely that number has to go up as you get older.

How much, who knows? You never hear those numbers.


GravatarPinstripes?

Nope. Forgot to mention - there isn't a handle (door, or otherwise) on it.

He's just a cool remote which opens everything.


GravatarVice President Dick Cheney went fishing in the waters between Oman and Iran on Wednesday, borrowing the Sultan of Oman's 60-foot royal yacht for the mission.

Did he plant a hook in anybody's cheek?


GravatarDemocracy = exploiting security-related fear and race-based resentment to gain an advantage even after your campaign is broke and the race is effectively out of reach, 4-eva.


GravatarSix people have been killed in a US air strike near the Iraqi town of Samarra, with some reports suggesting they were US-allied anti-al-Qaeda Sunni fighters.

The US denied claims by a police source and a militia member that those killed at the checkpoint were members of an Awakening Council.

The US-funded groups are credited with helping to curb the level of violence.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 7309292.stm

ooops


GravatarIt's probably just a coincidence that the Clinton campaign is dropping Celine Dion's "You and I" as their campaign theme in favor of Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler".
Visitor Online
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How about "Prop Me Up by the Jukebox if I Die"


GravatarDemocrat Presidential Primary

Total Votes:483

Hillary Clinton 48.2%
Barack Obama 41.8%
Mike Gravel 9.9%

Our online pocono record poll
Monroe county, Northeast PA


Gravatarhis constituency is going to wonder why he is debating a lawn jockey.


Wow, that's racist. Let's focus on shaping the discourse, not reaffirming moldy stereotypes and memes.


GravatarI'm not enamoured with this year's presidential election, to say the least.

I'd settle for not having to be enarmored.


GravatarI'm bracing myself for the worst, and hoping for the best.

Peace.


Gravatarres ipsa -- yes, yes, McCain will be destroyed in the debates -- just like Kerry destroyed Bush in 2004 & Gore destroyed Bush in 2000 -- your point?

What makes you think Americans like smart people? They want someone they would like to have a beer with. Don't think about the NYC elitist latte limousine liberals you know, think about those voters in Ohio like my Dad who said he didn't understand why people laughed at Archie Bunker since he made so much sense


GravatarNot surprised to find that Barndog's distinguished pedigree includes a dad who is one of the Chosin few!


GravatarHe's quantum leaps ahead of where I was at 2 yrs. old (I gave him his first computer this week)

Very kuhl.


GravatarOT: At least 100 people were injured as security forces used tear gas and water cannons to disperse Kurdish spring festival celebrations in a number of Turkish cities.

Over 60 of those injured were hurt in protests in the southeastern city of Van, the Reuters news agency reported.

Ten Turkish policemen were also injured on Saturday as the celebrations turned violent, according to local security sources.

Police also said they arrested more than 300 Kurdish demonstrators at protests throughout Turkey.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ...5D9A5AE022F.htm


GravatarNope. Forgot to mention - there isn't a handle (door, or otherwise) on it.

He's just a cool remote which opens everything.
Barndog, fucking snow again

Shaved. Wow, that's old school.

I'd love to see pix.


GravatarNot surprised to find that Barndog's distinguished pedigree includes a dad who is one of the Chosin few

Actually, his next eldest brother took time to go to Michigan State & get a degree.

That made him the first Marine officer in the family.


GravatarWhat makes you think Americans like smart people? They want someone they would like to have a beer with.

I'll buy them beer and let them drink it in the pick-up while driving. Am I elected yet?


GravatarDon't think about the NYC elitist latte limousine liberals you know, think about those voters in Ohio like my Dad who said he didn't understand why people laughed at Archie Bunker since he made so much sense


Ugh. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose, even at the risk of embarrassing yourself.


GravatarI was 5th from the top of my class & I would be a lousy president

I would vote for you tomorrow over C+ Agustus or McCain. One of the great things about the Dems is that we've got two v. smart people running. Obama was the editor of HLR. I worked for a long time w/ a guy who was the editor of HLR, until he went to DOJ, and he was so smart that I was just in awe of him. Clinton was Valedictorian at Vassar and gave a world-changing speech and did v. well at Yale Law School. And McCain was in the bottom 5 or 10. Book learning isn't everything, but I think we've seen over the last 7 years what rank stupidity does to a nation.


Gravatarheh one of the very first words my niece learned was 'laptop'


GravatarWhat makes you think Americans like smart people?

Turnout in the Texas primaries exceeded turnout in the '04 general election?

And there was no groundswell of enthusiasm for McCain or Huckabee?

And Obama has come from essentially nowhere to take the coronation away from Hillary (she was 20 points ahead before the votes started being cast).


GravatarWhat makes you think Americans like smart people? They want someone they would like to have a beer with.

Yeah, they do.
But I don't think that someone is McCain. Those folks are not going to have a Bubba to vote for this year. They're gonna have to pick one of the other options and I don't think the tired, creaky old man is gonna be it.


GravatarI'll buy them beer and let them drink it in the pick-up while driving. Am I elected yet?

That should get you as far as Governor of Virginia, at least.


GravatarWhat makes you think Americans like smart people? They want someone they would like to have a beer with. Don't think about the NYC elitist latte limousine liberals you know, think about those voters in Ohio like my Dad who said he didn't understand why people laughed at Archie Bunker since he made so much sense
Prior Aelred


did you see this nyt piece:

Mrs. Yarnick, for instance, said she would vote for Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, “because he spent all those years in a P.O.W. camp and he doesn’t talk about it,” an indicator of a reserve that she sees as a sign of the character and good manners she admires in her neighbors.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/2...ml? ref=politics


GravatarHecate --

I sincerely hope you are right, but my father (& more than a few insecure white people like him) will be voting for the Republican BECAUSE the Democrats are the party for women & blacks & gays (& he is right -- or at least I HOPE he is!)


GravatarHe needs to be revealed for what he really is ... a nutty, ill-tempered, poorly informed warmonger.
Brooklyn Girl | 03.22.08 - 1:45 pm | #


Yes but he's an experienced nutty, ill-tempered, poorly informed warmonger. Who takes care of the press.


GravatarWow, that's racist. Let's focus on shaping the discourse, not reaffirming moldy stereotypes and memes.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
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Yes, I know, but have you ever been around elderly white people? I have and sometimes it ain't pretty. Like Obama said, they will say things that will make you cringe. And usually loudly because they don't hear so good.


GravatarClinton was Valedictorian at Vassar

Wellesley.



I know... "whatever."


GravatarMrs. Yarnick, for instance, said she would vote for Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, “because he spent all those years in a P.O.W. camp and he doesn’t talk about it,” an indicator of a reserve that she sees as a sign of the character and good manners she admires in her neighbors.

Tip O'Neill was right.


GravatarHow about "Prop Me Up by the Jukebox if I Die"
foolme1ns
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There's always the apocryphal, "How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away?"*.

*The B side is: You Can Put Me in Prison, But You Can't Keep My Face from Breakin' Out


Gravatarhe didn't understand why people laughed at Archie Bunker since he made so much sense

This summer Obama will admit he writes his best speeches on the terlet.


GravatarA Taliban commander who has been in hiding for seven years has broken his silence in a video given to TV networks.

Jalaluddin Haqqani, appearing frail but defiant in the video aired on Al Jazeera on Saturday, vowed a renewed campaign in Afghanistan against US and Nato "invaders".

The video shows more than one attack, including what is believed to be a Taliban suicide bombing of an American compound in Afghanistan, alongside a taped message by Haqqani.

"The Americans said the Taliban was beaten and defeated but we are not defeated," said Haqqani in the video.

"It was our tactical plan to fade away and prepare for a guerrilla war."


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ...DEAE03EDF4C.htm


GravatarI sincerely hope you are right, but my father (& more than a few insecure white people like him) will be voting for the Republican BECAUSE the Democrats are the party for women & blacks & gays (& he is right -- or at least I HOPE he is!)
Prior Aelred


But that's the Repukkke base, and as the polls are showing, that base is shrinking. There aren't enough of them left to elect a Prez on their own...and unlike 2000 and 2004 Indpendents are breaking Dem this year.


GravatarThere's always the apocryphal, "How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away?"*.


Dan Hicks and His Hot Licks... not apocryphal at all!


GravatarA little March Madness goodness for you: Beginning of the end for Drew Neitzel's Michigan State career

This kid's from Grand Rapids, as was Drew Stanton, who was the star of State's footbal team a couple of years ago.

State's playing Pitt, and I hope they kick Pitt's ass (sorry, Gomez).


GravatarHow about "Prop Me Up by the Jukebox if I Die"
foolme1ns
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There's always the apocryphal, "How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away?"*.

*The B side is: You Can Put Me in Prison, But You Can't Keep My Face from Breakin' Out
Visitor Online
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GravatarI have a lot of older customers and I've never heard so many talk about voting Dem as this year. A lot of it seems tied to a dislike of the war.


GravatarThat should get you as far as Governor of Virginia, at least.

The governor of VA is a Dem who has been great on rejecting abstinence education, for example. We've already got one Dem Senator and likely will have two come November. My Congress critter is Jim Moran, as blue as you wanna be. You'll have to find another state to use as a "bad example". VA's going blue in 2008 if I have to spend every weekend this summer handing out campaign literature in the hot sun.


GravatarIt is absolutely true that the MSM is in the tank for McCain, and while we're at it, for Bush & Co.

It's gonna cost 'em. It IS costin' 'em. Fewer and fewer people get their news from the papers or even the nightly news shows. And those that do are over 50, mostly.

So, they're gonna have to do something. One possibility that may occur to a few of 'em is start telling the truth.

I know, I know, that's a drastic measure, but hey, drastic times call for them.

And folks, nothing motivates journalists like the possibility of losing their job.


GravatarBut that's the Repukkke base, and as the polls are showing, that base is shrinking.
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Of course they are shrinking. It's called Osteoperosis. Now get off their lawn!!!!


GravatarRunning for President in a nutshell.


GravatarHow about "Prop Me Up by the Jukebox if I Die"
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There's always the apocryphal, "How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away?"*.

*The B side is: You Can Put Me in Prison, But You Can't Keep My Face from Breakin' Out
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"Does your chewing gum lose it's flavor on the bedpost overnight?"


GravatarThe thing is, people wanted to have a beer with Chimpy even though he was supposedly on the wagon.

That's like smuggling a bottle of whiskey into an A.A. meeting.


GravatarOne of the CBS guys just called it for a Dook upset. That would be sweet!


GravatarMrs. Yarnick, for instance, said she would vote for Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, “because he spent all those years in a P.O.W. camp and he doesn’t talk about it,” an indicator of a reserve that she sees as a sign of the character and good manners she admires in her neighbors.

Presumably she voted for Silver Star recipient George McGovern in 1972 because of his reticence in making a big deal out of his war heroism.

Doncha 'spose?


GravatarWellesley.

You are right. Thanks!


GravatarTip O'Neill was right.
Rmj, Bemused Theologist


It was probably Finley Peter Dunne.

Comfort the afflicted, afflict the comfortable? That guy. He's responsible for "politics ain't bean bag" and a host of other sayings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Fin...ley_Peter_Dunne


According to an article in the November 5, 2006 edition of the New York Times, he coined the truism, often wrongly attributed to Tip O'Neill, that "all politics is local."

Am I? Yet?


GravatarOT: Brazil's Defence Minister Nelson Jobim says the military is ready to help the city of Rio de Janeiro deal with rising numbers of dengue fever cases.

Some 48 people have now died across the state of Rio since the start of 2008.

The vast majority of victims have been in the city itself, where hospitals have been struggling to cope.

Dengue fever - which is transmitted by mosquitoes - causes high temperature, headaches and muscle pain and, in extreme cases, it can kill.

The impact is increasingly being felt in urban areas where stagnant waters are an attractive breeding ground for mosquitoes.

While overall, federal officials say the number of cases in Brazil have fallen, in the state of Rio de Janeiro there has been a significant rise - more than 33,000 this year - prompting one leading doctor to describe it as a catastrophe.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 7309754.stm


GravatarYes, I know, but have you ever been around elderly white people?

No. I was raised as a plant, and never had grandparents. The farmers had a helluva time weaning me from dirt.

I'm sure many of the people who disagree with you are just like me.


GravatarHillary shoulda used this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h? v=zi0wstPuncc


GravatarIndpendents are breaking Dem this year.
flory | 03.22.08 - 2:06 pm | #


This. Is. Key.

As is the youth vote, who'd better realize that if McCain wants to implement his policy of staying in Iraq for 100 years, he can't do it with the current military. He's going to have to reinstate the draft.


Gravatar"Does your chewing gum lose it's flavor on the bedpost overnight?"
Rmj, Bemused Theologist


Do you catch it on your tonsils and swing it left 'n right?

(For those under fifty: there really was such a song, popular circa 1960.)


GravatarVicki - don't forget Drew Naymick is from Muskegon.


Gravatar*The B side is: You Can Put Me in Prison, But You Can't Keep My Face from Breakin' Out
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"Does your chewing gum lose it's flavor on the bedpost overnight?"
Rmj, Bemused Theologist


*Who Spit Terbakky on Hetty's Wedding Gown?*


Gravatarbut have you ever been around elderly white people?

My mom's an elderly white person, and she doesn't have a racist bone in her body. She was brought up in a multicultural neighborhood - Muskegon Heights.

My dad, however, was a different story, and he could get very ugly, but I think between my mom and his seven kids, by the time he died, we softened him up quite a bit. At least he quit uttering racial slurs in front of us.


Gravatar VA's going blue in 2008 if I have to spend every weekend this summer handing out campaign literature in the hot sun.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


This year we're changing our Warners.


GravatarI want the person with the (D) to win -- it might be this nation's best last chance -- I also don't expect the dramatic changes we need if a Democrat is elected -- there is still far too much denial in this country (see reactions to the remarks by Obama's former pastor) -- but I am afraid of complacency ("Kerry's a decorated war veteran, so they can't attack his patriotism compared the draft dodging Bush") -- this will be a big fight -- if McCain fails to carry Texas, I will be astonished (to put it mildly) -- I'm looking at the Electoral College map for where to likely pickups & losses are & I don't like what I see -- I want to be wrong, but please believe that this will be a bitter & ugly fight!


GravatarI have a lot of older customers and I've never heard so many talk about voting Dem as this year. A lot of it seems tied to a dislike of the war.
dmark, now with 6 more inches | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:07 pm | #


Where are you located? Yhat's great news, but this trend has to be national, or it won't make a difference.

Fucking electoral college.


GravatarBut that's the Repukkke base, and as the polls are showing, that base is shrinking. There aren't enough of them left to elect a Prez on their own...and unlike 2000 and 2004 Indpendents are breaking Dem this year.
flory


Hope springs eternal.

McCain is someone different than Dubya and they will give him the benefit of the doubt. Remember they lean Republican to start with.


GravatarAnd it was such a nice day out, too.


GravatarLooking forward to those Obama-McCain debates, with the old cranky dude getting wound up by an expert, smart gentle needler. I think Obama should flash that sweet smile and have fun with it.


GravatarI want to be wrong, but please believe that this will be a bitter & ugly fight!
Prior Aelred


Yes. It will.
But I don't see a lot of complacency out there. Most people I know are determined to see a Dem win this year and willing to fight for it.

Jeebus...I guy I know in his late 50s who had never even registered to vote til 2004 actually went and caucused in Dallas this year.
It's frickin' astonishing.


GravatarWhere has all the rage gone?

In 1968, fury at the Vietnam war sparked protests and uprisings across the world: from Paris and Prague to Mexico. Tariq Ali considers the legacy 40 years on


GravatarWe're too busy singin' to put anybody down.


GravatarPrior: How are the Republicans gonna win Ohio?

Has any president in a century been elected without Ohio? How are they gonna pull that one off? Ohio's got a D governor, and a D SecState. If there are any election shenanigans (and I don't want there to be any), they ain't gonna favor God's Own Party.


GravatarMcCain is someone different than Dubya and they will give him the benefit of the doubt. Remember they lean Republican to start with.

Listening to the salty earch people of Altoona on NicePoliteRepublican radio this morning, I'm inclined to agree. Hate the war? Check. Thing the economy's in the shitter? Check. Voting for McCain? You bet!!!


Gravatarearch? earth.


GravatarMcCain is someone different than Dubya and they will give him the benefit of the doubt. Remember they lean Republican to start with.
Gimlet


Not anymore they don't.

The Democratic Party has also built a substantial edge among independent voters. Of the 37% who claim no party identification, 15% lean Democratic, 10% lean Republican, and 12% have no leaning either way.

By comparison, in 2004 about equal numbers of independents leaned toward both parties. When "leaners" are combined with partisans, however, the Democratic Party now holds a 14-point advantage among voters nationwide (51% Dem/lean-Dem to 37% Rep/lean-Rep), up from a three-point advantage four years ago.


GravatarObamites and Hillaryphils might enhance their chances and their country's future by directing their venom against McCain rather than each other. May the nomination go to that candidate landing the most heaviest blows on Mr. McCain and his ilk. Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Mr. McCain double-teamed?
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Wouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately I personally know 2 angry Hillaryphiles who have quite seriously stated they would vote for McCain over Obama, and they meant every word of it.


GravatarYes, I know, but have you ever been around elderly white people?

Alone, in the shower. In my car, driving to work. At night, in bed, asleep.


Gravatarearch? earth.

Practicing a scorthed earch policy?


GravatarBut I don't see a lot of complacency out there. Most people I know are determined to see a Dem win this year and willing to fight for it.

I don't see much complacency either. But a lot of the people I know wouldn't consider voting for a Democrat if it turned out the Republican was a child molester.

I've even talked to a couple of Democrats who have told me they may have to vote for McCain because they're afraid of what the black people would do if they gained power.

I think you may be misunderestimating what it would take to put the red states in play.


GravatarThing the economy's in the shitter? Check. Voting for McCain? You bet!!!
JeffCO


Yeah.

I'm getting the spin that the economy and housing slump run in cycles and it's not Dubya's fault.


GravatarThe true wingnut doesn't like McCain.

That doesn't mean they won't vote for him, though.


GravatarYes, I know, but have you ever been around elderly white people?

Alone, in the shower. In my car, driving to work. At night, in bed, asleep.


Kinky.


GravatarHeh. Larry Craig did not file for re-election yesterday. Yesterday was the deadline. Heh.


GravatarPracticing a scorthed earch policy?

Apparently I thing so.


GravatarWhere has all the rage gone?

Well, there were massive demonstrations all around the world protesting the invasion of Iraq (before it happened) & it did no good -- most people need some indications that their actions mean something or they lose heart (or so it seems to me) -- an inspirational leader can help, but if that person fades away (or loses heart) it is not a good sign -- I do believe that eventually the truth will prevail, but eventually all the people I love are already dead -- I want good things for them NOW!


GravatarI've even talked to a couple of Democrats who have told me they may have to vote for McCain because they're afraid of what the black people would do if they gained power

Hopefully, there will be more stupid white people in jail/prison.


GravatarListening to the salty earch people of Altoona on NicePoliteRepublican radio this morning, I'm inclined to agree. Hate the war? Check. Thing the economy's in the shitter? Check. Voting for McCain? You bet!!!
JeffCO


When gas is nearly five bucks a gallon, when the numbers of US troops in Iraq are either static or (more likely) increasing, when winter's coming, food costs a ton, the economy is cratering, do you really think there won't be a few disaffected people in this country, for whom business as usual simply won't be the way they want to vote?

If McCain carries more than five states, I'll be astounded. Even if the nuts attack us in October.

Which I halfway expect.


GravatarThing the economy's in the shitter? Check. Voting for McCain? You bet!!!

nobody ever lost money betting on the stupidity of the american public.


GravatarThe United States really digs feeling good about itself, and we've earned it at times, but this is not one of those times.


GravatarOhio's got a D governor, and a D SecState.

The D SecState is crucial. I said over and over that I wouldn't give a Dem pres. candidate a penny if Dean didn't manage to get a D SecState in either Ohio or Fla. Dean did id and my checkbook's been hurting ever since. I believe that Hillary, for sure, and Obama, likely, can take Ohio this time, although it may go to a court fight and I sure as hell hope that either of them is willing to go that far. McCain will be.


GravatarYer doing a helluva job, DUMBya!


http://www.comcast.net/news/arti...007/12/18/Iraq/


Gravatarnobody ever lost money betting on the stupidity of the american public.


It's a sure bet, isn't it?

Damn.


GravatarDo you catch it on your tonsils and swing it left 'n right?

(For those under fifty: there really was such a song, popular circa 1960.)
DD, writin' like a demon

Not yet mentioned:

Would Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?


GravatarHeh. Larry Craig did not file for re-election yesterday. Yesterday was the deadline. Heh.

CHA-CHING!!!!!1!


GravatarWould Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?

Only Republican Jesus would.


GravatarVA's going blue in 2008 if I have to spend every weekend this summer handing out campaign literature in the hot sun.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

I'd be happy to help!


GravatarWhoever the nominee is, they need to make commercials of McCain in his own words and just play them over and over. On the economy, I'd have that clip of McCain telling voters "Your jobs aren't coming back." Foreign policy--"Bomb bomb Iran!" And so on and so forth.


GravatarIs the Kenneth Blackwell that I've been seeing all over cable news shows (primarily on FOX and CNN) the same Blackwell from Ohio?


Gravatarnobody ever lost money betting on the stupidity of the american public.
watertiger



Sadly, that's true.


GravatarWouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately I personally know 2 angry Hillaryphiles who have quite seriously stated they would vote for McCain over Obama, and they meant every word of it.
Addison


ANd there are probably just as many Hucksterbee voters saying the same thing about never voting for McCain. And it probably happens every cycle.


I've even talked to a couple of Democrats who have told me they may have to vote for McCain because they're afraid of what the black people would do if they gained power.

I think you may be misunderestimating what it would take to put the red states in play.
theodoric of athens


Reagan Democrats. The foundation of the Southern Strategy. They've been voting Repukkke for years. They're not going to be any new loss to the Dems.
There are just as many Repukkkes fed up with the war and saying they'll vote for any Dem candidate rather than for Bush's third term.

Anecdotes are not the best basis to make predections....


GravatarWould Jesus wear a Rolex on his television show?

Jesus doesn't care what time it is


GravatarIs the Kenneth Blackwell that I've been seeing all over cable news shows (primarily on FOX and CNN) the same Blackwell from Ohio?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Yep. Tweety loves the guy.


GravatarWhen gas is nearly five bucks a gallon, when the numbers of US troops in Iraq are either static or (more likely) increasing, when winter's coming, food costs a ton, the economy is cratering, do you really think there won't be a few disaffected people in this country, for whom business as usual simply won't be the way they want to vote?

Oh sure, there's some. But they made sure to interview all the good solid God-fearing men and women who hate abortion and gays, not necessarily in that order. They think McCain is a little lax in the hatred department, but they'll still vote for him.


GravatarVicki - that would be yes.


Gravatar
It's a sure bet, isn't it?


Easier money than playing Lotto, that's for certain!


GravatarIs the Kenneth Blackwell that I've been seeing all over cable news shows (primarily on FOX and CNN) the same Blackwell from Ohio?

yup.


GravatarDWD -- Again -- I devoutly hope you are right, but the Republicans are the NGP (Natural Governing Party) in Ohio -- they were so corrupt that most of the Ohio Supreme Court had to recuse themselves from a case involving corruption in state government because they had all received large campaign contributions from the defendant -- something had to give -- the urban voters (blacks & unions) are strong (D) -- the rural voters are strong (R) -- the race card is strong (as the Republicans found by trying to run a black man -- doesn't work)


GravatarI'd be happy to help!

See you at the Clarendon Farmers' Market and the Falls Church Farmers' Market this summer!


GravatarWell, that's VERY interesting to me.

Mr. Blackwell is a criminal and has no credibility.


GravatarDean did id and my checkbook's been hurting ever since. I believe that Hillary, for sure, and Obama, likely, can take Ohio this time, although it may go to a court fight and I sure as hell hope that either of them is willing to go that far. McCain will be.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:20 pm | #


Howard Dean showed up in florida to make sure that the butterfly ballot scuzzbucket lost.

which shows that howard understands something the dipshit DC Dems never could.


GravatarLots of things have come together such that this generation doesn't do demonstrations. Starting with the triumph of the automobile, which has re-formed both city and personal landscapes, and ending with the media's portrayal of them (not without plenty of help from the demonstrators) as nut shows.


GravatarAnecdotes are not the best basis to make predections....

so I assume you have some numbers to back yours up.


GravatarWouldn't that be nice. Unfortunately I personally know 2 angry Hillaryphiles who have quite seriously stated they would vote for McCain over Obama, and they meant every word of it.
Addison


Two people.....out of how many Democrats?


GravatarHopefully, there will be more stupid white people in jail/prison.
Barndog, fucking snow again


we're gonna need a bigger boat ...

"... no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans, We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude? - Pat Buchanan on Obama's race speech


GravatarIt's not just that Dems are getting voters out in record numbers, it's the record breaking $ as well. I think we have a very good shot at taking it all.

That being said, not one of my new neighbors have said they will vote for Barrack. The died in the wool repukes who honestly believe that Hillary is a lesbian and killed Vince Foster I can understand, but there are only two of them. The others certainly don't consider themselves racists but I don't know what else to think.


GravatarI apologize for the lawn jockey comment, but I am white and from the south and have many elderly relatives and have quite a few elderly aquaintances, and I can tell you that Obama was right in his radio address after his speech the other day when he called his grandmother a typical white woman (and no I don't think he threw her under the bus). These people, some of whom I love dearly and others of whom I am quite fond are still very comfortable using the "N" word, although it makes my skin crawl.

Obama called on us to address the race issue as something real and not as a spectacle. If we do not acknowledge that there are still very real racial attitudes out there, and many of them in the elderly white population then that conversation cannot occur.

I do believe that many of John McCains constituents are made up of that group. They are more comfortable with a white man in the position of President of the United States.

It is what it is.


GravatarI tell ya, Lipton makes a mean noodle.


GravatarI think you may be misunderestimating what it would take to put the red states in play.

I think "new" voters are the key.

Just like the numbers increasing the Dem primary if that phenomenon happens in November the entire Dem slate will be elected.


GravatarHere, go read a nice poem. I'm bringing my tarot cards to Philly.


Gravatarwatertiger & Vicki & Terry C -- I already quoted Mencken WAY upthread!

(BTW -- Mencken would certainly NOT vote for a woman or a black ... or a Jew or a Catholic or an Evangelical or a New Dealer or -- well there were a lot of groups he didn't like -- he was not a happy man)


GravatarAnecdotes are not the best basis to make predections....
flory
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Yeah, well if the recent accuracy of polls is anything to go be then anecdotes may be the most precise predictors we have.


GravatarAnecdotes are not the best basis to make predections....

so I assume you have some numbers to back yours up.
theodoric of athens


I wasn't actually making predictions, but...

yeah.


GravatarWe have to stop this invasion and military occupation. It really goes against everything we thought we were about.


GravatarSomeone this morning posted a YouTube video of Jack Lelane. He was talking about smiling, but he kept referring to walking around the city and taking the street car. The guy was wildly successful, but he still took public transit. Nobody that successful takes the bus nowadays.


GravatarYeah, well if the recent accuracy of polls is anything to go be then anecdotes may be the most precise predictors we have.
Addison
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They have to be at least as accurate as anything else.

Like Will Rogers once said of economists. They have as much chance of being right in their guesses as anyone else.


Gravatar"... no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans, We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude? - Pat Buchanan on Obama's race speech
focus, cultless



WHY is he NOT locked up in a padded room somewhere?


Gravatarfrom a thread way below:

Gah, I fucking hate Carville.




That's it. I'm in.
Molly Ivors


HOLY MOLY!!!!


GravatarWe have to stop this invasion and military occupation. It really goes against everything we thought we were about.

What MP said. Regardless of whether it's President Hillary or President Obama, I'm going to be standing in the January cold with a sign that says "End the War NOW!"


GravatarI do believe that many of John McCains constituents are made up of that group. They are more comfortable with a white man in the position of President of the United States.

It is what it is.
foolme1ns


Sure. But those are the same people that have been voting Republican all along. They never voted for Kerry or Gore, so they're no net loss to the Dems.
They'll vote for McCain or they'll stay home.

Meanwhile, younger voters and Independents are breaking Dem.

Net loss to the Repukkkes.


GravatarWHY is he NOT locked up in a padded room somewhere?
Terry C - Dislikes Repugs


You could write to MSNBc at letters@msnbc.com and ask them why they continue to employ the jackass.


GravatarThing is, I don't trust either Obama or Clinton to end the war.


Gravatar"... no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans, We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude? - Pat Buchanan on Obama's race speech
focus, cultless

I'll show my gratitude for Buchanan by chaining him in leg irons while he hand-picks cotton in the hot late summer sun, without water.

I may even give him a lashing or two to show my respect for his work ethic.


GravatarWHY is he NOT locked up in a padded room somewhere?
Terry C - Dislikes Repugs


pads are to good for him ...


GravatarLooking forward to those Obama-McCain debates, with the old cranky dude getting wound up by an expert, smart gentle needler. I think Obama should flash that sweet smile and have fun with it.
Along With Coffee


I'd like to see Senator Obama get under McStain's skin so badly that he has a meltdown.


GravatarMeanwhile, younger voters and Independents are breaking Dem.

Net loss to the Repukkkes.


From your keyboard to the Goddess' monitor.


GravatarObama called on us to address the race issue as something real and not as a spectacle. If we do not acknowledge that there are still very real racial attitudes out there, and many of them in the elderly white population then that conversation cannot occur.

Then you've got this guy:

For Russ Henry, 30, a white man who owns a gardening service in Minneapolis, Obama's speech was "nothing more than an attempt to distance himself from his preacher," he said. "It shows Obama's lack of character, that he just lacks political guts."

While I realize that this guy isn't "old", I do think that we have to recognize that some folks just think politicians are only going to do what they think is expedient at the time. Those folks are the toughest nuts to crack.


GravatarI apologize for the lawn jockey comment, but I am white and from the south
foolme1ns


SC?

I think you mentioned going to McClellanville for the day a few Saturdays ago.


GravatarMeanwhile, younger voters and Independents are breaking Dem.

Net loss to the Repukkkes.
flory
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And I am very happy about that.


GravatarWHY is he NOT locked up in a padded room somewhere?
Terry C - Dislikes Repugs

You could write to MSNBc at letters@msnbc.com and ask them why they continue to employ the jackass.
Florida

I did that earlier today when someone on a prior thread suggested it.


GravatarThing is, I don't trust either Obama or Clinton to end the war.

Nor do I. Nor do I trust that they understand the problem with militarism in our society...


GravatarI may even give him a lashing or two to show my respect for his work ethic

Then, piss in a cup so he has something to drink.

Make sure ya tell him the first 20cc's are sterile.


Which 20cc's is the problem.


GravatarThing is, I don't trust either Obama or Clinton to end the war.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:31 pm | #


thats how I feel as well


Gravatar"It shows Obama's lack of character, that he just lacks political guts."




It shows Russ' lack of brains and common sense.

His "mind" is already made up.


GravatarI'd be happy to help!

See you at the Clarendon Farmers' Market and the Falls Church Farmers' Market this summer!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

Sounds like a plan!


GravatarI'll show my gratitude for Buchanan by chaining him in leg irons while he hand-picks cotton in the hot late summer sun, without water.

I may even give him a lashing or two to show my respect for his work ethic.


Could you gang rape him while you're at it? A friend of mine has been doing lots of research into the history of American slavery and she's got records that show that "pretty" slaves were allowed to make the passage above decks where they were available for rape by the sailors while "ugly" slaves were assigned below-decks where most of the killing disease broke out.


GravatarYea, we've got to start raising hell with the new president. If we, us citizens, don't force the issue, American troops will be in Iraq another 20 years, at least.


GravatarI was excited by the young people that Obama actually seemed to be getting to vote (before young people had always been all talk & no action) but then it seemed to stop -- we need to change the normal way of operating in this country & we need to do it decades ago!

Carter told us he would never lie to us & he didn't & we never forgave him.

A black man or a white woman is good start -- nothing more -- we are fighting for the survival of the best elements of this nation against the people who have all the money & power & don't want to give it up.

OT -- am I right in recalling that the demonstrations against the Han actually started outside the Tibetan Autonomous Region? People forget that the provinces bordering historic Tibet are also largely Tibetan in culture & religion (& only recently have had government forced immigration of Han)


GravatarEgads! Pat really is a piece of work.

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969


Via Link : http://tinyurl.com/37nufy


GravatarSC?

I think you mentioned going to McClellanville for the day a few Saturdays ago.
Gimlet
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Yep. It was very nice. Went down to spend some time with the old folks. It was very pleasant.


GravatarI stand corrected on "apocryphal". [bows to SteveLG]

I only thought so because I remember being told that joke in grade school-- maybe Dan decided to write a song to hang on it.

Otherwise: Alas! that I should betray my roots and venture an unkindness on the eve of the great Christian high holiday of renewal and reconciliation.

But when I read the excerpt upthread about poor benighted Mrs. Yarnick being ready to cast her vote for Kid Shelleen (fka Maverick) because, in essence, he's a very clean old man, I immediately bethought myself of the title of a bluegrass band album called "Old and in the Way".

[Great album-- Jerry Garcia, Peter Rowan, David Grisman, Vassar Clements...]

But it also reminds me of my own grandma, ✝1976-- a smart, sweet, shrewd, good-humored woman. As an Italian-American, it's not too surprising that she admired Frank Rizzo, quondam Police Commissioner and Mayor of Philly. Not in a dopey, slavish, idolizing way-- she just saw him as a decent, dedicated man trying to do a good job.

She was also sympathetic to Nixon-- as a high school freshman growing out my hair and drifting steadily to the "left" (as we called it in those days), I had a couple of good-natured chats with her about him. "He's a good man! Why don't they leave him the hell alone?" was her good-humored refrain.

I was too inexperience to recognize a crucial disconnect, which is that grandma wasn't particularly interested in policies and theories-- she implicitly took that to be his business. She simply judged him to be a sincere and responsible leader, and saw dissenters as kibitzers or hecklers giving him a hard time.

I'm pretty sure she voted for him, incidentally.

So I have some experience with Mrs. Yarnicks. I suppose the question becomes whether they remain numerous enough to make a difference.


GravatarHow many Atriot heads will explode when Hillary gets the nomination?


GravatarSo I guess the dimbulbcraptic party is gonna have to change its symbol from a donkey to a monkey, huh?


Gravatar
Someone this morning posted a YouTube video of Jack Lelane. He was talking about smiling, but he kept referring to walking around the city and taking the street car. The guy was wildly successful, but he still took public transit. Nobody that successful takes the bus nowadays.


Luxury SUVs are where it's now at, man.


Gravatar.. no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans, We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude? - Pat Buchanan on Obama's race speech
focus, cultless

But he's right. And I'm sure he'd also admit that Irish catholics owe the same debt of gratitude to the English.


GravatarBTW -- Kevin Drum on the reaction to Obama's speech:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in3959867.shtml


GravatarSo I guess the dimbulbcraptic party is gonna have to change its symbol from a donkey to a monkey, huh?




No, GOP already has that for its "leader" - Bush.


GravatarI'd like to see Senator Obama get under McStain's skin so badly that he has a meltdown.
Terry C - Dislikes Repugs


A distinct possibility.


Gravatarsome folks just think politicians are only going to do what they think is expedient at the time. Those folks are the toughest nuts to crack.

To be honest, I think that. I think it of Hillary and I think it of Obama. I thought it of Gore and of Kucinich, as well.

We, the people, have a role to play in Democracy. Just electing someone to the WH, even someone who seems cool, isn't going to do it. It requires more from us than many of us are/have been willing to give.


GravatarThing is, I don't trust either Obama or Clinton to end the war.

It's not a war. Been saying it for years.

When both sides are shooting at you, it's a police action, and you're the police.

There are countries that are far better temperamentally suited to police actions than we are. Canada, for instance.

We have a problem, though, in seeking their assistance in cleaning up the mess that we made in Iraq. We would have to go to the UN, admit that we fucked up, and ask for help in cleaning up.

Will either Obama or Clinton do that? Unclear. I tend to think however that neither of them will be highly inclined to make waves.


GravatarThing is, I don't trust either Obama or Clinton to end the war.
Moe Szyslak


yeppers.

They both say they are going to leave enough soldiers there to protect the embassy. How many will that be? 50,000, 100,00? And a residual force in the neighborhood just in case terrorists take over or something.


GravatarHecate, the only way I would do that to Buch the Puke is with someone else's broom handle.


Gravataraiight...I'm off to spend the day in beeyootiful Napa CA.

Laterz....


GravatarNor do I trust that they understand the problem with militarism in our society... -NTodd†

We have to shoot and kill and destroy, we represent everything good in the world ... – Maxwell Smart speaking on behalf of Control


GravatarGotta get this done. Talk to youse guys later...


GravatarWhile I realize that this guy isn't "old", I do think that we have to recognize that some folks just think politicians are only going to do what they think is expedient at the time. Those folks are the toughest nuts to crack.

We have eight months. That's a long time for these people to get familiar with and learn to like Obama.


GravatarHow many Atriot heads will explode when Hillary gets the nomination?

if she gets it against the wishes of the popular vote and the regular delegate count going into the convention,the Democratic Party will explode.


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Comment by inquiring minds wanna know blocked.



Well, I see the idiot trools have finally crawled out of bed.


Gravatar
BTW -- Kevin Drum on the reaction to Obama's speech:


Drum works for CBS now? Well, I guess all that "centrist" triangulating has paid off for him.


GravatarThere are countries that are far better temperamentally suited to police actions than we are. Canada, for instance.

this is funny. why is the canadian temperament better suited to police actions, t? is hoping "the UN", the canadians, or the stromship troopers clean up Iraq starry eyed optimism or naivete that would put any neocon to shame?


GravatarI won't object to Senator Clinton getting the nomination -- I will advocate her victory & vote for her -- she is a centrist Dem & so is Senator Obama -- both are politicians who have compromised on their convictions to survive in politics -- that makes them like every politicians who has ever accomplished anything (& is a reason why I would be a lousy politician) -- so my head won't explode (but I would have preferred Edwards -- both on the issues & in the Electoral College -- as would Chicago Dyke, so it's not just us straight white males)


GravatarTerry C! Still hanging out in this dump I see. Very sad.

Time to find a boyfriend or buy a new dog.


GravatarPrior, about the young folks, the surest way to turn them off is to squash Obama's message of hope and of participation.

He doesn't just talk to them, he asks them to get personally involved.

That's what they're responding to.


GravatarWell, I see the idiot trools have finally crawled out from under their rocks.

fixed your bridge


GravatarWHY is he NOT locked up in a padded room somewhere?
Terry C - Dislikes Repugs



The War Between the States was about independence, about self-determination, about the right of a people to break free of a government to which they could no longer give allegiance. How long is this endless groveling before every cry of "racism" going to continue before the whole country collectively throws up?
-- Pat Buchanan, accusing someone of "putting on an act" by associating the Confederacy with slavery, July 28, 1993, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The "negroes" of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours.
-- Pat Buchanan, when discussing race relations in the 1950s, in Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

We were among Hoover's conduits to the American people,
-- Pat Buchanan, who was caught publishing FBI anti-Martin Luther King Jr. propaganda as his own editorials in the St Louis Globe Democrat in the mid-1960s, in Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

[For President Nixon to visit King's widow on the anniversary of King's assassination because it would] outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse.... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history.
-- Pat Buchanan, while working as a White House adviser to Nixon, reported in the New York Daily News, October 1, 1990, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"
Take a hard look at [KKK leader David] Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks.
-- Pat Buchanan, February 25, 1989, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"


GravatarMrs. Yarnicks. I suppose the question becomes whether they remain numerous enough to make a difference.

Or, whether their grandchildren keep engaging them in sincere dialogue. I've taken a vow to consider everything that G/Son says seriously and from a new perspective. Right now, that means that I spend time seriously considering "Nonna! Want Elmo now!" But it also means that I seriously consider things like "Why" in response to my explanations that "Everyone dies sometime" and "We have to pay the nice lady for the meal", as well. We old people really do want to hear what younger people say. Keep talking to us.


GravatarThey both say they are going to leave enough soldiers there to protect the embassy. How many will that be? 50,000, 100,00? And a residual force in the neighborhood just in case terrorists take over or something.
qlª

Just booby trap the damn embassy. Then when the Caliphate comes in and starts choosing the curtains and carpets, blow it up and entomb the zealots under concrete and leaky plumbing.


GravatarDWD -- Again -- I devoutly hope you are right, but the Republicans are the NGP (Natural Governing Party) in Ohio ... something had to give -- the urban voters (blacks & unions) are strong (D) -- the rural voters are strong (R) -- the race card is strong (as the Republicans found by trying to run a black man -- doesn't work)
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:23 pm |


No, not really, Ohio's been purple for some time. When I moved here in 1980, Rhodes may have been the gov, but Metzenbaum and Glenn were the Sens. And then in 1982, we elected Celeste. While a lot of rural Ohioans are racists and misogynist, I do not think the republicans can win here in Nov unless they steal it, and it's going to be hard for them to do that.


Gravatarif she gets it against the wishes of the popular vote and the regular delegate count going into the convention,the Democratic Party will explode.

I stayed up late last night reading a thread at Ezra's place.

It was pretty upsetting.


GravatarMy sense has been that the Clinton people are doing visibility stuff, but not actually trying to register anybody in Philly, since they know that most people they register would be Obama supporters.


GravatarWithin his character, personality, humor and habits of mind, I see stores of likability or charisma in Sen. Obama that he hasn't yet put to use. There's charm there in reserve for a long campaign. McCain, perhaps not so much.


Gravatarhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomber...rg/ asnmt2zmnztc

---------------------------------
So Bill Clinton doesn't think Obama loves this country? What is the "other stuff" that he is afraid people will have to ask themselves about if Obama is the candidate?

Just exactly what was Bill implying?


GravatarAs an Italian-American, it's not too surprising that she admired Frank Rizzo, quondam Police Commissioner and Mayor of Philly. Not in a dopey, slavish, idolizing way-- she just saw him as a decent, dedicated man trying to do a good job.


An embarrassment and the laughing stock of the nation.

Once said his police force could invade Cuba successfully.

A blustering bully of the worst type.

And anti-intellectual to the max. I don't think the man had picked up a book since he'd left high school.


GravatarThere are countries that are far better temperamentally suited to police actions than we are. Canada, for instance.

The biggest myth Canada holds about itself is that it is a great peacekeeper. People said it as Canadian troops overthrew the democratically elected Aristide. They say it now, when Canadian troops are doing the Americans' bidding in Afghanistan.


GravatarWe old people really do want to hear what younger people say. Keep talking to us.

May I point out that you are not OLD??


kai thx


Gravatarwhy is the canadian temperament better suited to police actions, t?

how long do you think the average American would put up with images of the US Army wearing blue helmets in, for instance, Darfur?

not very fucking long, I say.


Gravatarthe laughing stock of the nation.


Sorry - made Philadelphia a laughing stock to the rest of the nation.


GravatarDiesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody.
-- Pat Buchanan, expressing his revisionist views, challenging the fact that diesel exhaust was used to gas thousands of Jews at Treblinka, and discussing "group fantasies of martyrdom" in The New Republic, October 22, 1990, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

Like all idolatries, democratism substitutes a false god for the real, a love of process for a love of country.
-- Pat Buchanan, 1990, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

You just wait until 1996, then you'll see a real right-wing tyrant.
-- Pat Buchanan, just before he announced his candidacy for the 1996 presidential election in 1995, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"


I honestly can't say why he isn't in a padded cell but that's the beauty of the America he hates.

http://www.positiveatheism.org/h...es/ buchanan.htm


GravatarWe have eight months. That's a long time for these people to get familiar with and learn to like Obama.

Yeah.

I guess what I'm implying is that if it weren't the speech, it'd be his middle name. And if it weren't his middle name, it'd be that he's a lawyer.

There's a gazillion excuses for folks who can't admit they're wrong; and won't admit that they could be moved by someone or something.


GravatarI'll vote for Hillary but not with a lot of enthusiasm. Her dubious rhetoric and campaign negativity against another Democrat has soured me a bit.

I'd prefer Obama, who has tried to offer and up-beat message, while all those around him seem mired in the poltical muck of character assassination.


GravatarMeanwhile, in the real world...


GravatarMy sense has been that the Clinton people are doing visibility stuff, but not actually trying to register anybody in Philly, since they know that most people they register would be Obama supporters.

That's probably right. And the Obama campaign's whole organization thing depends on people using their personal relationships to gain supporters.

It's a different mindset.


GravatarAlong With Coffee:


McCain is as charming as Dick Cheney.

All the charm of pud.


Gravataras would Chicago Dyke

And Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore.


GravatarCleveland and Chicago were meccas for blacks in the early 20th century.


Gravatarhow long do you think the average American would put up with images of the US Army wearing blue helmets in, for instance, Darfur?

Canadian troops wear blue helmets in Darfur?

I doubt canadian troops engaged in combat anywhere on this earth do so in the garb of the UN. anyway, there's nothing in the mythical canadian temperament that makes them better or worse than any american, french or iraqi soldier so your original comment is still a mystery.


GravatarI guess what I'm implying is that if it weren't the speech, it'd be his middle name. And if it weren't his middle name, it'd be that he's a lawyer.

There's a gazillion excuses for folks who can't admit they're wrong; and won't admit that they could be moved by someone or something.


This is true, but nothing worthwhile is ever easy.


GravatarHe doesn't just talk to them, he asks them to get personally involved.

That's what they're responding to.
fourlegsgood, stingrayer | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:41 pm | #


I hope they stay involved even if he doesn't get nominated.


GravatarSorry - made Philadelphia a laughing stock to the rest of the nation.
Terry C - Hippie Fagsoul

They already were, thanks to the Phillies and Eagles (and now, the 76ers).


GravatarThey both say they are going to leave enough soldiers there to protect the embassy. How many will that be? 50,000, 100,00? And a residual force in the neighborhood just in case terrorists take over or something.
qlª


20 to 25,000 combat troops. More in logistical and support functions.


GravatarYou just wait until 1996, then you'll see a real right-wing tyrant.
-- Pat Buchanan, just before he announced his candidacy for the 1996 presidential election in 1995, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"


Like that fucker had any chance of winning.


GravatarGuess who's coming here to talk about anti-choice?

Norma McCorvey. 8:00 PM at Calvary Church. Cost is $ 10 at the door.

Think I'll go heckle.


GravatarMay I point out that you are not OLD??


kai thx


I love you!

I'm a grandma. I've been a Crone for 10 years. I do love to hear what young people are saying, thinking, listening to. I was old when I was 20, to tell the truth.


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bye, jack!


GravatarI hope they stay involved even if he doesn't get nominated.

If Obama's ahead and the supers give it to Clinton, I am afraid they won't.

They will feel that the party has personally kicked them in the gut.


GravatarWhile I realize that this guy isn't "old", I do think that we have to recognize that some folks just think politicians are only going to do what they think is expedient at the time. Those folks are the toughest nuts to crack.

We have eight months. That's a long time for these people to get familiar with and learn to like Obama.
fourlegsgood, stingrayer | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:39 pm


The question is can you reach them, and do you want to. There are some people, even beyond the core 25-30 Bush supporters, who cannot be reached. How much do you worry about them? Are they enough to worry about?


GravatarThe biggest myth Canada holds about itself is that it is a great peacekeeper. People said it as Canadian troops overthrew the democratically elected Aristide. They say it now, when Canadian troops are doing the Americans' bidding in Afghanistan.

I didn't say Canada was a great peacekeeper. What I meant to say is that there are lots of countries that would accept UN missions as legitimate use of their armed forces without, for example, insisting that their troops work under their own command.


GravatarThink I'll go heckle.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore



Excellent!


GravatarIf Obama's ahead and the supers give it to Clinton, I am afraid they won't.

They will feel that the party has personally kicked them in the gut.
fourlegsgood, stingrayer | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:48 pm | #


They'd be right. And I'd feel the same way.

You hear that, superdelegates? Don't steal this from us.


Gravatar
I didn't say Canada was a great peacekeeper. What I meant to say is that there are lots of countries that would accept UN missions as legitimate use of their armed forces without, for example, insisting that their troops work under their own command.
theodoric of athens | 03.22.08 - 2:49 pm | #


sounds like to me the UN is more likely to be used as a smiley face to paper over imperalism

same old shit but dressed up in pretty words


GravatarDoes anyone here want to do some del.ici.ous link trading?


GravatarThe question is can you reach them, and do you want to. There are some people, even beyond the core 25-30 Bush supporters, who cannot be reached. How much do you worry about them? Are they enough to worry about?

I think we should try, just on the principle that they are citizens.

The core dead enders probably can't be reached- but there's always hope.


GravatarI hope they stay involved even if he doesn't get nominated.
Mrs. Peel


I heard one pundit say that the betting is that old, white, uneducated women will come around and vote for Barrack, but that the enthusiastic youngsters will not come out and vote for Hillary.

Probably true.


GravatarYou just wait until 1996, then you'll see a real right-wing tyrant.
-- Pat Buchanan, just before he announced his candidacy for the 1996 presidential election in 1995, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"


Like that fucker had any chance of winning.
Terry C - Hippie Fagsoul | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:47 pm


One of my last memories of my mom was when we were watching the 1992 Republican Convention and Pat came on. She nearly threw my pillows at the tv, and then decided we should turn the tv off.


GravatarThey already were, thanks to the Phillies and Eagles (and now, the 76ers).
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 03.22.08 - 2:47 pm


Couldn't care less about any of that stuff.


Gravatarinsisting that their troops work under their own command.

bizarre -- US troops work under ISAF command, whose southern regional command is (for the second time) Canadian.


GravatarBuckeye -- I hope you are right about Ohio -- we need Ohio badly if we are going to win -- I was born & raised in Ohio -- no Democrats in local government (not even enough to run for local office) -- went to school in the district now represented by Boner (cough) -- never understood why Gilligan didn't win a second term (his daughter is now governor of Kansas, for crying out loud -- met her in the Kansas City airport, BTW) -- but we need Ohio!


GravatarCleveland and Chicago were meccas for blacks in the early 20th century.
rolf

Isn't "Mecca" that mooslim place?

Go back to posting your "Ron Paul will attract the vast middle ground!" diatribes.


GravatarI was old when I was 20, to tell the truth.


In many readings I've had done over the years, the best psychics always pick up on the fact that I've an "old" soul. It comes up in my numerology/astrology chart, too.

Sorry I'll miss your tarot reading in Philly, Hecate. That would be reason enough for me to go for the whole weekend.


Gravatarsounds like to me the UN is more likely to be used as a smiley face to paper over imperalism

same old shit but dressed up in pretty words


well, we could just leave Iraq to steam in its own dung, I guess.

I suppose it would serve them right for supporting al-Qaeda.


GravatarPrior, did I read that correctly? That you would support HRC as the nominee even if it is swayed against the popular/regular delegate vote by the supers?


GravatarThey both say they are going to leave enough soldiers there to protect the embassy. How many will that be? 50,000, 100,00? qlª

I think that whole Embassy is just a system of slant-drilling derricks, pumps, and the start of a very long underground pipeline to Wyoming ...


GravatarThe question is can you reach them, and do you want to. There are some people, even beyond the core 25-30 Bush supporters, who cannot be reached. How much do you worry about them? Are they enough to worry about?

I think we should try, just on the principle that they are citizens.

The core dead enders probably can't be reached- but there's always hope.
fourlegsgood, stingrayer | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:51 pm


My worry is that candidates, dem candidates, will go out of their way to appeal to them, and that won't work. Don't doing any out of the ordinary for them. If they decide to vote Dem, then great.


GravatarOne of my last memories of my mom was when we were watching the 1992 Republican Convention and Pat came on. She nearly threw my pillows at the tv, and then decided we should turn the tv off.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins


I like what the local morning DJ said the next day:

"I want to thank the hateful Mr. Buchanan. He delivered many votes for Governor Clinton.

Why was he allowed out without his keeper?"


Gravatarseriously, whose head will explode first when HRC gets the nomination?


GravatarFans of Althouse train wrecks should check out Roy's post here, and then read the comments, where Miss Havisham is still whooping it up in the comments. Fun fun!


GravatarI think that whole Embassy is just a system of slant-drilling derricks, pumps, and the start of a very long underground pipeline to Wyoming ...

Didn't C. Montgomery Burns get the contract for that?


GravatarWhen are you Obama supporters going to explain why his associations with Wright and Ayers don't make him a racist, too.

Just admit you've been played and fuck off.


GravatarWell, it's Thursday night at the Church.

I feel sorry for the woman - I bet she has had tremendous pressure placed on her throughout life to guilt her into believing that Roe V Wade was a mistake.


Gravatarwell, we could just leave Iraq to steam in its own dung, I guess.

I think that's the very best thing that could happen. The Iraqis would figure it out on their own if people would just leave them the fuck alone.

Ideally, of course, we'd be paying reparations...


GravatarA tale of two pastors


GravatarI heard one pundit say that the betting is that old, white, uneducated women will come around and vote for Barrack



Could they get any more condescending and sexist?


GravatarMother Jones, Oct. 2007

U.S Out How? Very comprehensive series, four post-occupation scenarios

http://www.motherjones.com/news/...-war- index.html


GravatarJust admit you burn dogs and fuck off.


GravatarSorry I'll miss your tarot reading in Philly, Hecate. That would be reason enough for me to go for the whole weekend.

Well I'm just bringing the cards along in case anyone wants a reading. And I'll always do them by e mail, as well.


GravatarIraq was a client State under Hussein, never a great
friend or ally. We only need a mega-Embassy if we intend to fuck with every segment of their life and society. We can't possibly need that in Iraq.


GravatarHecate --

When I was a novice, one of our guests told me that I was born old -- in a sense, this is true -- plus, you will never catch up with me!

I hope the young people show up & vote & make a difference -- we need some youthful idealism after the reprehensible selfish corruption & greed that is a Republican administration (W has not been an exception, just more glaringly obvious)


GravatarThers, I can't get to Whiskey Fire.


GravatarWhat's the point in protecting the embassy? Is there an oil well in it or something?

Put the fucking embassy in Kuwait City or Qatar, and take the troops out completely.


Gravatar
I heard one pundit say that the betting is that old, white, uneducated women will come around and vote for Barrack, but that the enthusiastic youngsters will not come out and vote for Hillary.


In September it will be the JOB of the candidate who doesn't get the nom to get their people to the polls.

If they don't that candidate should be made aware that they will get no support at all for any future run.


GravatarFans of Althouse train wrecks should check out Roy's post here, and then read the comments, where Miss Havisham is still whooping it up in the comments. Fun fun!

WOW!!!



Gravatar
I think that's the very best thing that could happen. The Iraqis would figure it out on their own if people would just leave them the fuck alone.

Ideally, of course, we'd be paying reparations...
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:55 pm | #


indeed, perhaps its time for the west to stop being so patronizing and indulging in orientalism


GravatarArf! yipeyipeyipeyipe!!!


GravatarBuckeye -- I hope you are right about Ohio -- we need Ohio badly if we are going to win -- I was born & raised in Ohio -- no Democrats in local government (not even enough to run for local office) -- went to school in the district now represented by Boner (cough) -- never understood why Gilligan didn't win a second term (his daughter is now governor of Kansas, for crying out loud -- met her in the Kansas City airport, BTW) -- but we need Ohio!
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:51 pm |


I live in Boehner's district. When they redid the district the repubs were in charge and split dayton into two districts, diluting the Democrats power in terms of Congressional voting. But Ohioans, even the rural ones, are pissed, and worried about the war and the economy.

4 years ago the Bush-lovers at work were loud and 'proud', now they're quiet, and those of us who aren't Rethugs aren't afraid to make rude comments about the war.

I think we can take Ohio, it won't be easy, but if it's an honest vote, we should win.


GravatarComment by Toby Petzold blocked.


Here he is.....the man without a life and/or friends.


Also without a conscience, a heart or a working brain.


GravatarAyers? Really, Tobes....


GravatarVicki -- here? Is my homepage link bad?


GravatarI hope the young people show up & vote & make a difference -- we need some youthful idealism after the reprehensible selfish corruption & greed that is a Republican administration (W has not been an exception, just more glaringly obvious)

What the Prior said.


Gravataroh, joy, "NTodd" is back ! And "Thers" -- you twerps still hanging around this sorry ass lonely hearts club?


GravatarSince Hillary cannot win the nomination without destroying the party, why persist with the notion that she can take it?

Isn't that dishonest?


GravatarBleep! (censored comment)


GravatarYes, Thers, your homepage link is bad.


GravatarI guess it was bad. Fixed, I think...


Gravatarthat's so sad! is back, and still clueless.


GravatarI got Thers' link fine. Perhaps the problem is with your connection, Vicki?


GravatarGet outta here, Zod.

I SMOTE THEE!

[Lightning Bolts Strike! Zod incinerates!]


GravatarJust admit you've been played and fuck off.
Toby Petzold


On the internets nobody knows you are an angry black man, or a dog.


GravatarWell I'm just bringing the cards along in case anyone wants a reading. And I'll always do them by e mail, as well.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

I'll politely request a reading when my birthday comes 'round in May. As with Vicki, I'll regret not attending - but will share the collective esprit from afar.


GravatarHow goes the community colleging gents? still making trubble w/those .edu accts?


GravatarErinPDX --

I will support the nominee of the Democratic Party -- whoever it is -- the nominee is chosen by the party by whatever arcane means the party devises -- the president is chosen by an extraordinarily unsatisfactory Electoral College that puts regionalism over the good of the people as a whole

At this time I do not see any way that Senator Clinton is likely to have a majority of delegates at the Convention & expect Senator Obama to be nominated by the Convention -- neither was my first choice -- either would be infinitely better than President McCain

I think this should be obvious to everyone here


GravatarInteresting article in the Boston Globe today about local restaurants phasing out bottled water. My favorite new place has this on the menu:

"Individual Bottled Water," but instead of a price you'll find this message: "Not sold here because plastic bottles are BAD BAD BAD for the environment & that water is really no better than tap water."


Gravataroh, joy, "NTodd" is back ! And "Thers" -- you twerps still hanging around this sorry ass lonely hearts club? -thats so sad!

now that's Lieutenant zod!


GravatarCall the police.


GravatarWhen are you Obama supporters going to explain why his associations with Wright and Ayers don't make him a racist, too.

Just admit you've been played and fuck off.
Toby Petzold
--------------------------------
My associations with racists don't make me a racist. I admired Obama all the more in his speech the other day for NOT disowning his pastor or his Grandmother. Real people don't just throw away relationships because the people in them are imperfect.

Grow up.


Gravataroh, joy, "NTodd" is back ! And "Thers" -- you twerps still hanging around this sorry ass lonely hearts club?

No.


GravatarComment by thats so sad! blocked.


Bye bye, asshole!


Gravataroh, joy, "NTodd" is back ! And "Thers" -- you twerps still hanging around this sorry ass lonely hearts club?

You don't need quotation marks around my name. It's my name.


GravatarOne of my last memories of my mom was when we were watching the 1992 Republican Convention and Pat came on. She nearly threw my pillows at the tv, and then decided we should turn the tv off.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins


I like what the local morning DJ said the next day:

"I want to thank the hateful Mr. Buchanan. He delivered many votes for Governor Clinton.

Why was he allowed out without his keeper?"
Terry C - Hippie Fagsoul | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 2:53 pm


Mom and Dad were Eisenhower Republicans who left the party after Reagan got the nom. Dad didn't like Clinton, (and died in June 1992), but seeing Pat's speech reconfirmed for Mom how far right the party had gone. That speech really turned a lot of people off.


GravatarMy worry is that candidates, dem candidates, will go out of their way to appeal to them, and that won't work. Don't doing any out of the ordinary for them. If they decide to vote Dem, then great.

Well, I don't mean they should go out of their way to change their message, but I do feel they should at least try to engage them.

How? By adopting the fucking 50 STATE STRATEGY.



GravatarI got Thers' link fine. Perhaps the problem is with your connection, Vicki?

No, I'd messed up my homepage link.


GravatarI think this should be obvious to everyone here
Prior Aelred


First beer on me at EschaCon.


GravatarI'll politely request a reading when my birthday comes 'round in May

I'd be honored.


GravatarI got to it through Thers' link. I wanted to read the memos.



GravatarReal people don't just throw away relationships because the people in them are imperfect.

Grow up.
foolme1ns



Toby wouldn't know what a relationship is if it bit him in the ass.


GravatarBye bye asshole!

terry c turns me off (I weep) and in her microcephalus imagines I disappear forever!

D-U-M spells dum.


GravatarAnyone who is kewl would already have Whiskey Fire bookmarked.



Gravatar"Individual Bottled Water," but instead of a price you'll find this message: "Not sold here because plastic bottles are BAD BAD BAD for the environment & that water is really no better than tap water."

Heh.

The Minneapolis city council yesterday voted to ban disposable coffee cups at City Hall. That was just a no-brainer.


GravatarThers, I can't get to Whiskey Fire.
Ters' omepage link is missing someting.


GravatarIsn't that dishonest?
Toby Petzold


That's odd, coming from you but hey, I've been doing some things to push it in the direction of McCain becoming the next president this fall. You and the rest of this society deserve it. I can't do anything that wasn't already primed that way to begin with.


GravatarI'd be honored.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

*tips fedora*
Nay, the honor shall be mine.


GravatarYou don't need quotation marks around my name. It's my name.
NTodd†


How do you pronounce that anyway?


GravatarHey, folks, just a drive-by blogwhore, because I'm in between Saturday errands, which are tricky without a car.

Once again the geniuses at the State Department have found a way to offend the Middle East countries (you know, the part of the world Dick Cheney wants to pump more oil for our Hummers?) even more.

See you in a little bit.


GravatarMom and Dad were Eisenhower Republicans who left the party after Reagan got the nom. Dad didn't like Clinton, (and died in June 1992), but seeing Pat's speech reconfirmed for Mom how far right the party had gone. That speech really turned a lot of people off.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |


I knew a lot of folks "on the fence" till Pat the Nazi opened his big mouth that night.

They voted for Bill Clinton.


Gravatarfoolme:

Real people don't just throw away relationships because the people in them are imperfect.

That's an odd way of putting it. Are you saying that BHO's relationship with Wright is somehow segregated from the normal rules of society?

"Oh, let's just look the other way. They're just Negroes, after all. Maybe that's how they talk."


GravatarYou don't need quotation marks around my name. It's my name.

Shit...I thought it was a new trend...


Gravatartoby is stupid and ugly and nobody likes him.


I thought you ought to know that.


GravatarIt's my name

No, your name is "N" or "Todd"

NTodd is your rawther gay online moniker, that maybe makes it a tetch harder for your "students" to know about the online character you play here.


Gravatarbasketball sheets upstairs.


Gravataryou twerps still hanging around this sorry ass lonely hearts club?


better than a sorry ass broken hearts club ... jerk


GravatarComment by Ô¿Ô blocked.


Sorry, but the self-pity and hatred of the entire world are real turn-offs.

I'm sorry your life hasn't turned out the way you wanted it to, but you don't need to bring everyone here down with your whining.


GravatarI admired Obama all the more in his speech the other day for NOT disowning his pastor or his Grandmother. Real people don't just throw away relationships because the people in them are imperfect.

What foolme said. When I heard that speech, all I could think was that whatever G/Son would find to criticize about me when he was a grown man and I was likely gone, was likely something that I wouldn't think, at the time, was odious. Life moves on, the wheel turns, we hope our descendants will remember us and call our names at Samhein and not hate us for our mistakes. Somehow, Obama's G/mother raised a v. smart G/Son.


GravatarI got nothin' bookmarked. I'm a ludite. I go to your blogs via blogwhores or from links on other blogs. Or from links on this blog.

I do have DohiyiMir's url memorized, however, because NTodd and I have a *special* relationship.


GravatarMy worry is that candidates, dem candidates, will go out of their way to appeal to them, and that won't work. Don't doing any out of the ordinary for them. If they decide to vote Dem, then great.

Well, I don't mean they should go out of their way to change their message, but I do feel they should at least try to engage them.

How? By adopting the fucking 50 STATE STRATEGY.


fourlegsgood, stingrayer | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 3:03 pm |


Well, that's sort of what I mean. Don't focus on them, but don't exclude them.


Gravatarhaving blocked Terry C , I cant read her latest hiccup. Can someone read it to me?


Gravatar:::fat cow blocked:::


GravatarBy adopting the fucking 50 STATE STRATEGY.


Hello
That should be obvious to anyone that is here.


GravatarUp next, a "very special episode" of Eschaton comments...


Gravatar:::projecting fat cow blocked:::

That sould do the trick.


GravatarHow do I unlblock someone?

I MUST READ TERRY CS WISDOM

SHE IS THE SMARTEST PARTIPANT IN THIS FORUM


GravatarAnd to save any twit the embarassment of correcting my spelling, it should be "should."


GravatarLife moves on, the wheel turns, we hope our descendants will remember us and call our names at Samhein and not hate us for our mistakes. Somehow, Obama's G/mother raised a v. smart G/Son.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 3:07 pm


A couple months after Dad died, Mom called us 'girls' to apologize for all the 'mistakes' she and dad had made when raising us (I think she was worried that she'd turned out more like her mom than she'd wanted to). I couldn't decide whether to cry or yell at her for thinking that way.


GravatarHeckuva job, Condi!

304 days

Diane C., that's yet another terrifying example of the Cheney Doctrine.

He, Rummy, and W are all insane monsters who can't be taken fast enough to the Hague.

And Condi, who also deserves to join them, is little more than a marionette with expensive shoes.


Gravatar"Oh, let's just look the other way. They're just conservative white Christians, after all. Maybe that's how they talk."
.


GravatarI have a flaming dog poop candle for you.


http://www.pugcafe.com/catalog/d...poop- candle.htm

We can honeymoon in China.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/ chi...tent_646808.htm


GravatarBHO tithes to Wright's church in the five figures. That's trying to purchase something, isn't it? Racial authenticity?

BHO isn't the product of the Civil Rights movement. He's an overprivileged phoney.

Like the '04 nominee, actually.


GravatarAnyway, most on this blog and the left blogosphere deserve more republicanism and certainly most in this society, so be it.


GravatarMarry me, Toby.


Gravatar"black people are scary"-Ed Rendell


Gravatarhave a flaming dog poop candle for you.


http://www.pugcafe.com/catalog/d...poop- candle.htm

We can honeymoon in China.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/ chi...tent_646808.htm


Copied, printed and onto the voodou pile for you, name stealer.


GravatarMarry me, Toby.

Copied, printed and onto the pile.


GravatarCopied, printed and onto the doodou pile for you, name stealer.
Ô¿Ô


flagellated your tibia.


GravatarLink to full video of Pastor Wright.

Naturally, the edited by goopers version is misleading...it's the Dean scream all over again.
~


Gravatarflagellated your tibia.

Copied, printed and onto the pile. You comments are just as good as something physically from you.


GravatarThis isn't me. It's you who does this. Maybe you'll lose some keys or something. Just depends.


GravatarBush eats small baby

She practices Doodoo!


GravatarJust depends.
Ô¿Ô


They come in handy when you practice doodoo.


GravatarHelp!


GravatarClinton now leads Barack Obama 51 percent to 35 percent among likely Democratic primary voters, according to the Franklin and Marshall College Poll. In February, the same poll found that Clinton was ahead by half that margin, 44 percent to 37 percent.

Wow!


GravatarHere in Bryn Mawr there are several Obama supporters registering people, no Clinton people doing such.


GravatarI wonder if the Clinton people regisitering people is actually counterproductive in Philly, cause its not like they ask people who they are voting for before they register them, and Philly is going to go for Obama by a huge margin.


GravatarObama campaign workers out in force in Bucks County - knocked on our door to ask if we'd consider changing from "unaffiliated" to Democrat in order to vote for Obama in the primary. We did so right away, and will vote for Obama. Trekked on over to Main St.in Doylestown and signed up to volunteer.


GravatarClinton supporters "Out on the streets": They're wandering ... aimless ... disconsolate ... sometimes gibbering senseless bits of nonsense ... their glazed eyes blinking, empty ... sometimes they scream, sometimes they punch the air.

Help them! Help them get the help that they need!


GravatarThat's because Obama is trying to register independents and Republicans, his base, as fake Democrats in his ongoing attempt to trick the Democratic party into nominating a Republican.