Atrios usually gots nuthin. That's what makes him an A-lister.
NTodd, Pink Poseur
He hates his commenters, too.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 6:34 pm | #
Ambinder's doing the play by play.
I AM JOHN MCCAIN, AND SO'S YOUR MOTHER.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:34 pm | #
you know, i bet it would be harder to elect a black president in France or Spain than in the USA...just saying...
good night owls!
chica toxica |
05.31.08 - 6:34 pm | #
We can't get any speed going in the neutral zone.
There's been a lot of 'clutching & grabbing'.
mojo |
05.31.08 - 6:34 pm | #
Gromit, I saw the picture of your kids. V. cute, though they probably have mortgages now.
Willendorf Venus |
05.31.08 - 6:34 pm | #
FWIW, it's a bea-yoo-tee-full day here in the Twin Cities.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.31.08 - 6:34 pm | #
Heh.
But this ought to be a party in which we may have to take stands, but we welcome people back.
"This is a party where we should enforce the rules! Unless some people object. Then we should be nice to those people. We should both enforce the rules, and not enforce them if that would involve being stern with some people. So that way we can have rules and also not have rules. You have to be reasonable, after all."
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 6:35 pm | #
wow, real things happenning at the committee meeting
FWIW, it's a bea-yoo-tee-full day here in the Twin Cities.
Zap Rowsdower
Fookin' hot here. 86.6 in my backyard right now, though it got up to 88.something earlier in the day.
Willendorf Venus |
05.31.08 - 6:37 pm | #
I hope the rules win
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 6:37 pm | #
What else is this but self-sabotage? The DNC is saying to Florida that the petty need to sanction them trumps the voters' right to have representation. That's why y'all are going to lose Florida in November and, therefore, the Presidency: because Dean and Pelosi and whoever the fuck else want a radical Leftist on their slate instead of a grown-up who knows what she's talking abt.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 6:37 pm | #
The Rules Committee needs to put in instant replay.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 6:37 pm | #
Germond: When we wrote the rules we made sure they had meat and beef and force - dammit these were beauty contests and that tough because Hillary is attractive but Obama is handsome too
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:37 pm | #
The Mets have come back in the 8th inning
How's Pedro doing? IMHO one of the greatest non-steroid pitchers of the steroid era. Actually any era. Just not for the Mets.
mojo |
05.31.08 - 6:38 pm | #
Regardless of the outcome.....this is a shitty, shitty way for a primary to be decided, even in part.
Democratic Party officials are drama queens, and not in the good way.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:38 pm | #
The funding Fundies down in Jesus land Carolina are trying to destroy gay rights again.
A former Burke County rescue squad member who disappeared and changed his name when he became the subject of a police investigation four years ago was charged Thursday with child molestation, authorities said.
Richard Murphy, 58, of Valdese was charged with one count of statutory sex offense, said Burke County Sheriff John McDevitt.
Police in Valdese began investigating Murphy, who worked with the Eastern Burke County Rescue Squad as a junior volunteer recruiter, four years ago when five boys between the ages and 13 and 15 said they had been sexually abused.
Maybe Eschatonblog can get together with the ACLU and NAMBLA (they love each other) to defend this poor guy?
Rice a Roni values |
05.31.08 - 6:39 pm | #
That was the quickest Ickes Shuffle in history.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 6:39 pm | #
They should pass a rule naming the Official Pizza of the Democratic Party.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 6:39 pm | #
I just burned all my Arab scarves, and I still couldn't get into Dunkin' Muffins!
Shaw Kenawe
I wish someone would wrap a scarf around Michelle Malkin's mouth.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
How's Pedro doing? IMHO one of the greatest non-steroid pitchers of the steroid era. Actually any era. Just not for the Mets.
He threw two pitches at the start of the season and promptly went on the DL with a hamstring injury completely unrelated to the injury that shelved him for most of last season. He'll be back on Tuesday to finish an inning, where upon he'll pull his groin, and go on the DL until September.
.
William H. Rehnquist |
05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
Anyone else have the dating ad with the woman with her tits hanging out?
Yes, and it has made me wonder why, when I had breasts that high, I didn't let them hang out.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
Anyone else have the dating ad with the woman with her tits hanging out?
Gomez
I was getting pixelated nekkid fat dood yesterday. Today, it's the same company without the nudity.
Willendorf Venus |
05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
Republicans change the rules as they go along to fit their agenda and their loyal followers go along with this without question.
We gotta be different and it sometime it sucks to follow the rules we set but in the end we know we can rely on those rules
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
Comment by Rice a Roni values blocked. [
Don't you have chores to do?
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
That was the quickest Ickes Shuffle in history.
SteveLG
The Steelers ended Icky's shuffle, BTW.
Gave him a bum knee.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 6:40 pm | #
The Hillary supporters are the most emotive of those present... notwithstanding the admonitions of Chairman Herman.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 6:41 pm | #
I just burned all my Arab scarves, and I still couldn't get into Dunkin' Muffins!
I'd like to get into your dunkin muffin.
.
William H. Rehnquist |
05.31.08 - 6:41 pm | #
The Steelers ended Icky's shuffle, BTW.
He had the potential to be a much better back in the NFL, than he turned out to be.
MP |
05.31.08 - 6:42 pm | #
Germond: we believe in rules and to ignore the rules to be like George W. Bush!
[ ooooooh ]
Ickes: i wrote these fuckin' rules and even i don't what the fuck is going on - except that damm young black man is p0wnng me
Pasquil: Rules are rules except when they are not rules
Maya Rudolph: vote carries by 2/3 - psych! just the vote to close debate
[ ooooooh ]
Maya Rudolph: all in favor
[YAYYYYYY!!!]
Maya: where was all this enthusiasm in 2000 goddamiitt?
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 6:42 pm | #
For reasons that shall go unstated, I just ate my first Twinkie in at least two decades. I was never a huge fan but I remember liking them and being impressed by their delicate sponginess and creamy centers when I was five or six years old.
This Twinkie -- fresh from the wrapper -- had a tougher texture than I remember and the cream filling lacked even the slightest hint of vanilla, tasting instead of sugar and corn syrup.
Anyway, I advise not revisiting this particular snack cake.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 6:42 pm | #
He'll be back on Tuesday to finish an inning, where upon he'll pull his groin, and go on the DL until September.
Steroids & HGH would help that. Just sayin....
mojo |
05.31.08 - 6:42 pm | #
Earl Campbell will always be my favorite NFL back.
The defense feared colliding with him.
MP |
05.31.08 - 6:43 pm | #
What are they chanting?
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 6:43 pm | #
15 to 12 FLA not to be seated. Now clintistas going republican
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 6:43 pm | #
Maya: all opposed say Boooooo
[ BOOOOOOO ]
Maya:
[Jennifer!!! Jennifer!!!! ]
Maya: what the fuck are those weirdos saying
Wolf: they are saying 'Denver' apparently there are many Bronco fans here
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 6:43 pm | #
There isn't a political even banal enough that CoT can't make interesting.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:44 pm | #
Hillary's supporters are doing nothing to endear themselves to me... chanting "Denver Denver Denver."
Thank you. I love you all.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 6:45 pm | #
Hillary's supporters are doing nothing to endear themselves to me...
Oh, dear. They'll be crushed to learn this.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:45 pm | #
That's why y'all are going to lose Florida in November and, therefore, the Presidency: because Dean and Pelosi and whoever the fuck else want a radical Leftist on their slate instead of a grown-up who knows what she's talking abt.
Tubby needs to find the thorazine real quick.
billy b |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:45 pm | #
Retarded people have feelings too! We need to count or else we'll cry for a long time.
Florida Voters |
05.31.08 - 6:45 pm | #
I just burned all my Arab scarves, and I still couldn't get into Dunkin' Muffins!
I'd like to get into your dunkin muffin.
William H. Rehnquist
For some strange reason, this reminds me of Albert Schweitzer.
Shaw Kenawe |
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05.31.08 - 6:45 pm | #
I was just reading the comments over at Drum's place. I was surprised to learn that Obama murdered the gay choir director of that church he used to go to.
Considering how many many people Obama and Hillary have killed between them, if I were John McCain I'd watch my step.
Finny |
05.31.08 - 6:45 pm | #
On the brink of the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) has left his controversial congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ, in Chicago, campaign spokesman Bill Burton said Saturday.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.31.08 - 6:46 pm | #
Let's compromise ....... since we lost
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 6:46 pm | #
Black Guy: in light of Obama's awesomeness i move that each pledged delegate can only cast 3/5 of a vote and in addition shall be made to wear a dashiki or a pantsuit at all times on the floor of the convention
Huff: you sneaky motherfucker!!!
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 6:46 pm | #
Hillary's supporters are chanting "Denver Denver Denver."
So, now whatcha gonna do?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 6:47 pm | #
Holy crap. Did y'all watch the video of the extremely keyed-up Clinton supporter at the link?
When asked if she would sit out the election if Obama is the nominee:
"I'm voting McCain--are you kidding me?! Obama's not getting in the Whitehouse! I'm not an idiot. When you hear enough bad news about someone, I start to panic. Suddenly it's no longer about being a Democrat--it's about being an American! It's about preserving our sense of America."
"I'm voting McCain--are you kidding me?! Obama's not getting in the Whitehouse! I'm not an idiot. When you hear enough bad news about someone, I start to panic. Suddenly it's no longer about being a Democrat--it's about being an American! It's about preserving our sense of America."
Jeepers.
I'm gonna have a permanent hand mark on my face from all the "palm-facing" I've done during Silly Season™.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
Considering how many many people Obama and Hillary have killed between them, if I were John McCain I'd watch my step.
Finny
How many has McCain killed, I wonder.
I mean, all those bombs he dropped on women and children.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
instead we'll use some mostly-arbitrary backroom deal that is what a small committee of people thinks is an approximation of the voters' will.
Everything old is new again!
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
Christ, the hecklers in the crowd are assholes.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
WTF?!
Uncle Smokes
See previous comment re murder of choir director. There's psychosis in the air.
Finny |
05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
Wow. Real drama!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
Is this what was quaintly known in the '50s as having a "nervous breakdown?"
Shaw Kenawe |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:49 pm | #
silly season over yet?
Atrios |
05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
"I'm voting McCain--are you kidding me?! Obama's not getting in the Whitehouse! I'm not an idiot. When you hear enough bad news about someone, I start to panic. Suddenly it's no longer about being a Democrat--it's about being an American! It's about preserving our sense of America."
Self-destructive jerk.
And learn how to spell "tongue," troll.
I know how to correctly spell "tongue," and I'm not a troll. Now kiss me.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
Oh man I am against Obama too.... after all he did use the 'sweety' word.
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
Huff: hey protestors shut the goddam fuck up and act like grownups instead of little kids
[ WHAAAAAAAA ]
Ickes: i'll take half a loaf
Herman: gee i wonder if this was planned in advance
Ickes: hey i wore my 'regular guy' shirt
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
Ickes will vote for half vote.
Restores entire Florida delegation with 1/2 vote. Request from the original challenge.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
WTF?!
Uncle Smokes
Not all Clinton supporters are stupid racists like that one obviously is.
And she could have been a plant.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
Committee Member: We're going to leave here more united than when we came.
I'm hearing cries of No! from the audience. Swell.
Neponset |
05.31.08 - 6:50 pm | #
Isn't it nice that the GOP has so undermined the sense of voting in this nation that now people protest about who's going to be the grand poobah of the Loyal Order of the Water Buffaloes?
puppethead |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:51 pm | #
silly season over yet?
Dream on.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:51 pm | #
Almost all voted for it.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:51 pm | #
silly season over yet?
You don't click your own links?
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:51 pm | #
Vicki, gah, it just goes on and on and on...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 6:52 pm | #
Ickes will vote for half vote.
Heh. I mean...huh? I mean...
I don't even know anymore.
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.31.08 - 6:52 pm | #
Suddenly it's no longer about being a Democrat--it's about being an American! It's about preserving our sense of America."
Shaw Kenawe: Because someone named "Obama" couldn't possibly be American--Are we right Chief Soaring Eagle?
Chief Soaring Eagle: "What you mean "we" Off-White Woman?
Shaw Kenawe |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:52 pm | #
I find all of this fascinating. I should have gone to law school. Sadly, I was more into partying and shit like that back in the day.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:52 pm | #
Note to Democratic Party:
Solomon didn't really want to split the baby in half.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 6:52 pm | #
Nim, They have to do something. I know that is disgusts you, but what else can you propose?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:53 pm | #
CoT
What time does MTP come on for you?
I have serious needs for your bobblespeak of Pumpkinhead tomorrow.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 6:53 pm | #
"Holy crap. Did y'all watch the video of the extremely keyed-up Clinton supporter at the link?"
That is the saddest shit I've seen in a long fucking time. Note that *every one* of the classic Clinton talking points is in her rant, including the "she's been in politics 35 years she knows what she's doing" bullshit.
Yeah, Hillary knows what she's doing all right.
I would be interested in seeing a video of this woman's white male counterpart. Talk about a stereotype.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 6:53 pm | #
I find all of this fascinating. I should have gone to law school.
This ain't what you get to do, mostly.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 6:53 pm | #
When you hear enough bad news about someone, I start to panic. Suddenly it's no longer about being a Democrat--it's about being an American! It's about preserving our sense of America.
Good luck with that. You know where a good place for that rant would be? Standing by the pumps at the local gas station. Give it a shot.
If you cast one half vote, where does the other half go?
Shaw Kenawe |
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05.31.08 - 6:54 pm | #
I love when its something that highlights the dems "disarray" CNN goes all CSPAN on us. How about this much airtime for anti-war protest or pukes voting against health care for babies.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO |
05.31.08 - 6:54 pm | #
They're going halfsies in MI? C'mon that's probably the fairest thing to do.
MP |
05.31.08 - 6:54 pm | #
heheheh - what you fools don't realize is that I get to use the discarded half votes to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!
If you cast one half vote, where does the other half go?
Shaw Kenawe
Same place as the missing sock from the dryer?
puppethead |
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05.31.08 - 6:54 pm | #
Buckeye: So, now whatcha gonna do?
Have a cigarette, and sip my iced coffee.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 6:48 pm |
Um, I thought you were quitting cigarettes.
So you've got employements plans in the future?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
i didn't write about it, but lanny davis's reference to the solomonic wisdom of splitting votes (he wanted to split the *uncommitted* michigan votes) sorta missed the point of that story...
Atrios |
05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
This ain't what you get to do, mostly.
I know. You read and memorize endlessly and practice your writing skills and other such things...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
That is the saddest shit I've seen in a long fucking time.
You must live a very comfortable life.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
I should have gone to law school. Sadly, I was more into partying and shit like that back in the day.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
Not all Clinton supporters are stupid racists like that one obviously is.
And she could have been a plant.
If so, we should get her name and phone number because she's very convincing and would be extremely useful down the road.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
Herman: all in favor of Unity 08 Compromise clap your hands and say yeah
[ YEAH !! ]
Herman: seems unanimous to me
Michigan delegate: i move Michigan gets divided - hillary gets the palm and Obama gets the fingers and thumb
Fowler: my first choice was hillary clinton and i know harold ickes and i love him and that night was very special but i must move back in with my wife
Ickes: this is not my day demmit
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
Harold Ickes: I want the whole pot!!!
MP |
05.31.08 - 6:55 pm | #
This Ickes jerk is aptly named.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO |
05.31.08 - 6:56 pm | #
i didn't write about it, but lanny davis's reference to the solomonic wisdom of splitting votes (he wanted to split the *uncommitted* michigan votes) sorta missed the point of that story...
No, no Lanny wanted them to leave the baby whole and let him have it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.31.08 - 6:56 pm | #
Suddenly it's no longer about being a Democrat--it's about being an American! It's about preserving our sense of America.
sounds to me like something the Repukes would say.
I think she's a plant.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 6:56 pm | #
Nim, They have to do something. I know that is disgusts you, but what else can you propose?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
They should have either gone with half delegates in the first place, rather than none. Or they can simply say, "Pound sand. If we change the rules on the fly, we're making a mistake even worse."
The notion that there has to be some sort of compromise is just wrong. Yes, let's set a precedent where we can retroactively change the rules for the selection process - I can't imagine how that might come back to bite us in the ass in the future.
If they shot themselves in the foot by making a bad decision at the outset wrt to FL and Mi, they're just compounding it. PARTICULARLY as it's not going to change the result now.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
why is it not a big deal in the left sphere that the florida primary date (out of bounds for dems) was set by the (repub) Florida state legislature??? this is just one of so many sneaky tactics they use to disenfranchise dem voters - how has this been tolerated by the dnc and the watchdog bloggers on the left??? Especially after 2000 - cut these people some slack. if you have to hold a new primary where they both campaign fine - but disallowing is just a repub victory.
Helen Wilson |
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05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
hillary gets the palm and Obama gets the fingers and thumb
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
Gravatar's yer best defense against namestealing.
Not that that's stopped clods from trying, granted...
Zap Rowsdower |
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05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
Ickes! The fucking primary was FLAWED here.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
See previous comment re murder of choir director. There's psychosis in the air.
Finny
Drudge may rule the media world, but when did The National Enquirer become a resource for Democratic politics?
Uncle Smokes |
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05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
Icky is being tres solemn.
Shaw Kenawe |
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05.31.08 - 6:57 pm | #
Buckeye: Um, I thought you were quitting cigarettes.
So you've got employements plans in the future?
Cigs: Too stressful a time, now, unfortunately.
Job: Entrepreneurship, for now. Will likely get some consulting work out of Peebo for some time, at 4x my old wage.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
Democracy is so messy. If we were Republicans, we could just let SCOTUS settle it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
I was surprised to learn that Obama murdered the gay choir director of that church he used to go to.
You mean his Puerto Rican lesbian wheelchair bound half-French lover?
I'm shocked! They were so good together!
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist |
05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
When asked if she would sit out the election if Obama is the nominee:
"I'm voting McCain--are you kidding me?! I'm totally going to show those Republicans! Once abortion is outlawed, we can protest against how horrible it is for a woman not to have the right to choose. And we can turn all those unwanted pregnancies into symbols of our cause: since we'll be fighting in Iraq for 100 year like McCain promised, those unwanted babies will all be able to grow up and die in Iraq to show the horrors of making abortion illegal!
We'll show that Obama!
.
William H. Rehnquist |
05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
Ickes: we find this body's support for hillary clinton's former position inexplicable
Herman: uh huh
Ickes: this will hijack delegates just like a terrorist and this body is just a bunch of fascists and steal votes from 600,000 - that's not democracy
Herman: no democracy is an election where only one person is on the ballot
Ickes: you bet your sweet ass
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
Learn to lose, you loser.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
i'm growing hair on my links, now...
I'm guessing that tickles a bit.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
Wasn't "Ickes" the one who originally came up with the idea of punishing FL and MI in the first place?
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO |
05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
Icky sure isn't the same when you look behind the screen next to the wizards image
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Hecate, in more important matters, how is Miss Thing? Are you properly indulging Her Highness?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Gravatar's yer best defense against namestealing.
Not that that's stopped clods from trying, granted...
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 6:57 pm |
A namestealing troll who calls sheets.
Very, very odd.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Get off it, Ickes, the soapbox I mean. We're trying to put together a winning team. The fucking rules were agreed to, and now you're trying to unagree them.
Hee hee. Ickes is calling Fowler a lush.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Not all Clinton supporters are stupid racists like that one obviously is.
And she could have been a plant.
If so, we should get her name and phone number because she's very convincing and would be extremely useful down the road.
Stunt Woman
Okay, I get it. Hillary is the most evil person since Hitler and her supporters are all stupid, evil racists.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Wasn't "Ickes" the one who originally came up with the idea of punishing FL and MI in the first place?
Yes.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Icky works just like any other republican spinmister
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
Obama just now "I applaud Sen Clinton's service to this country but let's face it no one wants to look at that old hag face on a Twenty or Mt. Rushmore. Now all you menopausal Hos go home and bake your man a pie".
Philadelphia Harry |
05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
Hey, Miss Vicki -
How many people wrote in Obama in Michigan?
billy b |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
I take it things did not go well for Clinton in DC today?
Snow (D-SC) |
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05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
Ickes: yeah you bet your ass the election was fucking flawed
Dawson: watch your language motherfucker
Ickes: you want a piece of me shitface?
Dawson: right now dickwad
Ickes: Hijacker!!
Fowler: i love that man
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
Hello, Snow.
Have you forgiven me for my ignorance concerning "Yellow Dog Democrats?"
I didn't mean to make you angry.
Uncle Smokes |
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05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
They should have either gone with half delegates in the first place, rather than none. Or they can simply say, "Pound sand. If we change the rules on the fly, we're making a mistake even worse."
The notion that there has to be some sort of compromise is just wrong.
Of course it is. And the contrary notion is why liberals do sometimes suck, if I may be so bold.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
This "new" thread has 150 posts on it. And that's according to Haloscan!
And the naked dood is back.
I demand a refund.
Willendorf Venus |
05.31.08 - 7:00 pm | #
Oh great.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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05.31.08 - 7:01 pm | #
You know, the next person who tells me MI and FL voters were "disenfranchised," is gonna make me take hostages.
Might as well say the same for everybody who had the choice in the primaries of "John Kerry or...John Kerry" 4 years ago, after IA and NH decided he was the most "electable."
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist |
05.31.08 - 7:01 pm | #
Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her rights to take this to the credentials committee.
The Repukes are overpaying these trolls.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 7:01 pm | #
I submit this as final proof that hrc's supporters are dangerous assholes.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO |
05.31.08 - 7:01 pm | #
Billy B,
30,000 people wrote in "Obama." But all write-in votes were not counted. People were instructed about this, as well.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 7:01 pm | #
Icky threatend to tell your parents
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 7:01 pm | #
Okay, I get it. Hillary is the most evil person since Hitler and her supporters are all stupid, evil racists.
That's right, Terry, except you forgot the lesbian pedophiles.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:02 pm | #
Terry McCauliffe, DNC head at the time, also threatened to strip all votes from Michigan in 2004 when they tried this the last time.
trifecta |
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05.31.08 - 7:02 pm | #
There are now three parties.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO |
05.31.08 - 7:02 pm | #
I submit this as final proof that hrc's supporters are dangerous assholes.
What a fucker. And Hillary too. Credentials committee? Prepare to get handed your ass, crybabies.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 7:02 pm | #
I submit this as final proof that hrc's supporters are dangerous assholes.
I'm sorry, but I must respectfully disagree. People who support her are among those I know and love.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 7:02 pm | #
Might as well say the same for everybody who had the choice in the primaries of "John Kerry or...John Kerry" 4 years ago
Hell, we don't even get to vote in the caucus states. We have to go through one or more rounds of being herded around like cattle in pens. And it can take hours or days of your time.
puppethead |
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05.31.08 - 7:03 pm | #
I submit this as final proof that hrc's supporters are dangerous assholes.
Was that four days ago or something? I wouldn't worry too much about making people mad.
Snow (D-SC) |
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05.31.08 - 7:03 pm | #
Its now the "America for Hillary" party. Maybe they vote dem, maybe they don't. Lieberman can be their treasurer.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO |
05.31.08 - 7:03 pm | #
i'm growing hair on my links, now...
I'm guessing that tickles a bit.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge | 05.31.08 - 6:58 pm | #
I'm guessing all the tickling caused the hair growth...
Bas-O-Matic |
05.31.08 - 7:03 pm | #
You know, the next person who tells me MI and FL voters were "disenfranchised," is gonna make me take hostages.
Take hostages. Michigan's primary was fucked up, flawed, whatever you want to call it.
To dismiss that is to dismiss a fair election.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 7:03 pm | #
It's gonna be on in Denver.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 7:03 pm | #
i submit to the meeting the motion that we all stop booing, and shut up and go home now
Apparently Charlie Sheen has married some blonde chick.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 7:06 pm | #
IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee!!!!!!
I thought Rudy Giuliani was out of the race.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 7:06 pm | #
IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee!!!!!!
Finally, truth in advertising.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 7:06 pm | #
Okay, I get it. Hillary is the most evil person since Hitler and her supporters are all stupid, evil racists.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal
finally some reasonable discourse. It's good to see that everyone isn't so extreme.
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
Apparently Charlie Sheen has married some blonde chick.
She'll be available again soon.
Snow (D-SC) |
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05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
[tv audience: yep this sounds like the Democratic party i know and love ]
[wild applause]
COT gets it, as usual.
The fact that the Dems are in the spotlight on this deal means the party's in the limelight also.
Cool beans.
billy b |
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05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
It will be decided by which side is better conditioned to the thin air.
Gomez
Do you argue in court? How do you control the sports metaphors?
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
There are now three parties.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO | 05.31.08 - 7:02 pm | #
LOL. If you don't have the stomach for this sort of thing (Democracy) why not choose something a little less stressful? Just thinking out loud here....
derek |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
Apparently Charlie Sheen has married some blonde chick.
That happens a lot around here.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
i wasn't invited to any of them.
Sorry, but the tent door has been stapled shut.
Let's go have a picnic on the grass.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
if florida and michigan were seated as voted, barack would still lead in the delegate count and popular vote
so why not just give it to the hillary supporters, declare victory for barack, and get on with it?
I love this African American guy who's calling Ickes out for "selective amnesia." Ha.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
Apparently Charlie Sheen has married some blonde chick.
Gomez
that was covered on the chelsea handler show last night; which is really the only appropriate venue.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
So, we might end up with a compromise that doesn't, as a practical matter, resolve anything, and also sets a precedent for ignoring the rules whenever it becomes expedient to do so.
Nobody could have anticipated etc.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
Take hostages. Michigan's primary was fucked up, flawed, whatever you want to call it.
To dismiss that is to dismiss a fair election.
No it's not. It's to have the maturity and grace to recognize that certain fuck ups are not reparable. This is why people apologize and resign their jobs and live quietly tending their gardens instead of creating arrogant, self-righteous spectacles about themselves and how "unfair" life is.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:07 pm | #
(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama's campaign confirmed Saturday that he has resigned from the Chicago church where controversial sermons by his former pastor and other ministers created repeated political headaches for the Democratic frontrunner.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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05.31.08 - 7:08 pm | #
Do you argue in court? How do you control the sports metaphors?
camelot, Go Pens
I play them one at a time.
I'm just happy to be here.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 7:08 pm | #
There are now three parties.
I'm going to the one where the theme is "Nights in White Satin"
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William H. Rehnquist |
05.31.08 - 7:08 pm | #
Lieberman can be their treasurer.
Bjorn, nonkosherjewforO
Would you trust LieberWhore with YOUR money?
Dishonest prick.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 7:08 pm | #
Hell, we don't even get to vote in the caucus states. We have to go through one or more rounds of being herded around like cattle in pens. And it can take hours or days of your time.
so why not just give it to the hillary supporters, declare victory for barack, and get on with it?
saw one of obama's spokesmen asked that earlier. he said it was b/c the other 48 states who did follow the rules deserved recognition for that. some of them also wanted to move up their primaries but did not.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 7:09 pm | #
that was covered on the chelsea handler show last night; which is really the only appropriate venue.
dirk gently, spiraling
I'd discuss the "Sex in the City" movie, but that would make me GAY.
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05.31.08 - 7:09 pm | #
Sen. Barack Obama's campaign confirmed Saturday that he has resigned from the Chicago church
So this will "prove" to wingnuts that Obama is a scary muslim, I suppose?
puppethead |
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05.31.08 - 7:09 pm | #
So, we might end up with a compromise that doesn't, as a practical matter, resolve anything, and also sets a precedent for ignoring the rules whenever it becomes expedient to do so.
Yeah, that's what bugs me. I said, and I'll continue to say, stick with the rules that were set in place.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 7:10 pm | #
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Wow. Haven't seen you around for a while. Started to think you were raised from the dead or something...
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 7:10 pm | #
There are now three parties.
There is but one troll....
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 7:10 pm | #
Take hostages. Michigan's primary was fucked up, flawed, whatever you want to call it.
To dismiss that is to dismiss a fair election.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Name me a fair election as a baseline.
And the perfect needn't be the enemy of the good. But I prefer to reserve "disenfranchised" for felons and others who lose the right to vote completely, or persons denied that right because of their status (non-property owners, non-whites, women, all historically once without the right to vote).
It's a primary. You get to vote in November. It's the first time in my memory I can remember my primary vote actually coming closing to mattering. So I'm fed up with "My primary vote should count!"
Well, yeah, so should mine, every time since 1976. But it hasn't. I should also be driving home in my flying car, but that ain't gonna happen either.
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist |
05.31.08 - 7:10 pm | #
You know, the next person who tells me MI and FL voters were "disenfranchised," is gonna make me take hostages.
Amazing this is uttered on a liberal blog, of all places.
Because it's good for the party? Sheesh.
gil |
05.31.08 - 7:10 pm | #
saw one of obama's spokesmen asked that earlier. he said it was b/c the other 48 states who did follow the rules deserved recognition for that. some of them also wanted to move up their primaries but did not.
dirk gently, spiraling | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 7:09 pm |
it was the republican legislature in florida that fucked the democratic primary voters there
(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama's campaign confirmed Saturday that he has resigned from the Chicago church where controversial sermons by his former pastor and other ministers created repeated political headaches for the Democratic frontrunner.
He picked a good day to announce it, since people who otherwise might hear about it are making themselves vomit of a Democratic Party rules committee meeting.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 7:10 pm | #
The fact that the Dems are in the spotlight on this deal means the party's in the limelight also.
Which is why it wouldn't bother me one bit to have it go to Denver. I don't believe it will hurt the Dems one bit to have the GOP not be able to spend all summer attacking "the" candidate. Let them wait till September.
JeffCO |
05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
So, we might end up with a compromise that doesn't, as a practical matter, resolve anything, and also sets a precedent for ignoring the rules whenever it becomes expedient to do so.
Only in the Democratic Party.
Snow (D-SC) |
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05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
so why not just give it to the hillary supporters, declare victory for barack, and get on with it?
Answer: this is just another step in the Clinton campaign's plans to win the nomination at all costs.
No serious person believes that this is just about "fairness" for Hillary and the voters of Florida and Michigan. It's about winning at all costs.
Some people find that admirable. I think it's a fucked up disease rampant among Repukes and certain "Democrats" who suck my ass.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
No it's not. It's to have the maturity and grace to recognize that certain fuck ups are not reparable.
That's my point.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
Black Guy: Fuck harold ickes and his shitty selective amnesia and i hope he takes his lying ass back to political oblivion
Smith: i had my hand up!
Chair: didn't you see you white lady
Smith: fuck you fat man
Smith: i've been a democrat all my life by i just discovered that we have to support all the delegates in Michigan it makes me very very sad
Chair: thank you for your concern
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
I'd discuss the "Sex in the City" movie, but that would make me GAY.
Or ready to play the lead role in Equus.
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William H. Rehnquist |
05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
I'd discuss the "Sex in the City" movie, but that would make me GAY.
Gomez | 05.31.08 - 7:09 pm | #
my son's gay housemates insist that he go see it with them so they can get the opinio of someone who has never seen the show.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 7:11 pm | #
Saw only one or two episodes of Sex in the City. Hated it.
I realize this makes me hopelessly out of touch.
Shaw Kenawe |
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05.31.08 - 7:14 pm | #
Only in the Democratic Party.
Snow (D-SC)
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As Will Rogers once said "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a democrat"
foolme1ns |
05.31.08 - 7:14 pm | #
No serious person believes that this is just about "fairness" for Hillary and the voters of Florida and Michigan. It's about winning at all costs.
Some people find that admirable. I think it's a fucked up disease rampant among Repukes and certain "Democrats" who suck my ass.
Stunt Woman | 05.31.08 - 7:11 pm |
i just want to sew up the nomination for barack without alienating the hillary fanatics
we need a united party to win, without bitterness
having said that, all those booing at the meeting can kiss my ass
Why are all the Germans in the audience chanting "Dynasty! Dynasty! Dynasty!"?
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 7:15 pm | #
LarryElvis!
Jeffraham Prestonian
Yes, very nice, but what is LarryElvis' position on seating Michagan and Florida?! DENVER! DENVER! DANVERS! Ack! Splut!!
Uncle Smokes |
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05.31.08 - 7:15 pm | #
No serious person believes that
How does one become a spokesmodel for all serious people?
I posed nude when I turned 18.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:15 pm | #
i just want to sew up the nomination for barack without alienating the hillary fanatics
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The storm formed one day before the official start of the season June 1, hitting land near the Mexican port city of Chetumal and Belize's Corozal city.
Gimlet |
05.31.08 - 7:19 pm | #
???
I find it funny to call one side of a 48-52 split fanatics as you're calling for unity without bitterness.
JeffCO |
05.31.08 - 7:19 pm | #
Then again, I have never, ever watched "American Idol."
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal/i>
I'd rather watch milk curdle.
Shaw Kenawe
Come sit by me.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 7:20 pm | #
Frankly, I could care less.
Frankly then, you don't understand much about winning a majority
Dead people and Canadians can't vote.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:20 pm | #
So they're gonna seat the delegates with "half votes each"? WTF does that mean? Each delegate's vote counts as .5?
V for Virginia, discouraged |
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05.31.08 - 7:21 pm | #
listen guys, 49% of democratic primary voters voted for hillary, 51% for barack
leaving out florida and michigan
if your idea of barack winning the nomination is to say the hillary voters can just go fuck themselves, i don't care what they think
then you have a very poor understanding of how to win elections
i concluded after the north carolina/indiana vote that barack had become the defacto nominee, and i am supporting him whole heartedly
i didn't like the booing by the hillary supporters at the meeting at all
Please please acknowledge that the FL primary doesn't cpunt b/c the republicans made sure it wouldn't count. Obama might still win it, that would be great but please don't dismiss it.
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05.31.08 - 7:21 pm | #
I'd rather watch milk curdle.
Shaw Kenawe
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Ah, that's a good job. You can't get that job. (Mel Brooks, worlds oldest man)
foolme1ns |
05.31.08 - 7:22 pm | #
I find it funny to call one side of a 48-52 split fanatics as you're calling for unity without bitterness.
Speaking for myself, I'm not referring to *all* so-called Clinton supporters (are you the last one?) but to the ass wipes who spout insane bullcrap like the disturbing person in that video.
Will you vote for me now?
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:22 pm | #
What the fuck are conservative values, Tim Scott? What are they? You can't just toss out that phrase without saying what means.
Snow (D-SC) |
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05.31.08 - 7:22 pm | #
NYT news alert says yes, that's what it means.
V for Virginia, discouraged |
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05.31.08 - 7:22 pm | #
Each delegate's vote counts as .5?
Yup.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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05.31.08 - 7:23 pm | #
I find it funny to call one side of a 48-52 split fanatics as you're calling for unity without bitterness.
JeffCO | 05.31.08 - 7:19 pm | #
ah, i see
i called them fanatics as a concession to barack supporters
my sympathies are much more evenly divided than most people here
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Uncle Smokes |
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05.31.08 - 7:24 pm | #
49% of democratic primary voters voted for hillary, 51% for barack
leaving out florida and michigan
I seem to remember a bunch of people voting for Edwards, Kucinich, Biden and some other people.
You think 49% of all those "primary voters" would vote for Hillary now?
I think that's fucked up and naive.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:25 pm | #
I'll be on SC ETV at 7:30. I can't watch.
Snow (D-SC) |
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05.31.08 - 7:25 pm | #
Its like so many diatribes agaisnt HRC - the repubs come up with them, feed them into the mainsteam and the thousands of otherwise sensible people just regurgitate them -wtf??
Helen Wilson |
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05.31.08 - 7:25 pm | #
Chair: and now on to new business - all in favor of cold cuts and fruit salad at the next meeting
V for Virginia, discouraged |
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05.31.08 - 7:25 pm | #
I seem to remember a bunch of people voting for Edwards, Kucinich, Biden and some other people.
do you have an actual percentage of these voters in the overall primary popular vote?
You think 49% of all those "primary voters" would vote for Hillary now?
no - that's why i didn't say that
I think that's fucked up and naive.
Stunt Woman | 05.31.08 - 7:25 pm |
*sigh*
V for Virginia, discouraged |
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05.31.08 - 7:28 pm | #
Its like so many diatribes agaisnt HRC
Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine, whine ...
You see, it's the whining about Hillary and Bill that I and many other Democrats are really tired of. That's one of the wonderful side effects of watching Hillary Clinton's political career go up in nauseating billowing clouds of smoke: change of subject.
Negatives are negatives and hers are never going to change so for fuck's sake stop the goddamn whining.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 7:28 pm | #
What I think is that Obama will be the nominee, and that it is to his advantage to figure out how to generate as much enthusiasm from Dems who did not initially support him as possible, especially Hillary's supporters. Feeling shut out is not likely to lead one to action.
I worry as dave mentioned about his ability to stand up to GOP pressure tactics that will be naked and raw, and the more people he has behind him the easier it will be to tell the people trying to keep him from doing anything to shut up and sit down.
I simply don't see calling half the Dems who've voted and caucused so far crazy and idiots and selfish etc as a winning tactic for November.
JeffCO |
05.31.08 - 7:30 pm | #
Thread still going? I'm amazed. Seriously, Can we find a way to move forward w/ the Obama presidency and get the clinton supporters on board? You know, stop disrespecting her and them ...
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05.31.08 - 7:34 pm | #
Stunt woman,
sorry I.ve never heard hrc whine. her supporters (and me) get pissed off at how grotesque the media spin on her is. 1 of the things i like about her is that after all the @#$$%% that she has taken she just gets right back up and keeps on trying. and before you fall for that male media thing about ego - think that maybe she is fighting for what she believes in. Clearly she thrives on hard word and challenge - omg if only we'd had a pres like that in the past 7 years. I no its a lost cause and I am enthusiastic about supporting Obama but please back the fuck off on HRC.
Helen Wilson |
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05.31.08 - 7:51 pm | #
Clearly the 'obomabot' are never going to concede that the opinion of 49% of democrats are of any value but for the rest of us, humor us and offer her the vp.
Helen Wilson |
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05.31.08 - 8:05 pm | #
HULK SMASH HILLBOTS
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