The New York Times fired Jayson Blair for telling harmless lies and gave Judith Miller millions of dollars severance pay for telling lies that killed a hell of a lot of people.
George Johnston |
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04.12.08 - 9:27 pm | #
It was no secret - I even waved.
Avedon |
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04.12.08 - 9:27 pm | #
You can't spell public editor abbreviated for html without "pube".
P O'Neill |
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04.12.08 - 9:27 pm | #
Avedon is teh awesome.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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04.12.08 - 9:28 pm | #
The New York Times fired Jayson Blair for telling harmless lies and gave Judith Miller millions of dollars severance pay for telling lies that killed a hell of a lot of people.
George Johnston
Judith Miller's BS served THEIR purposes.
Jayson Miller's story did not.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 9:28 pm | #
Prior! How's life treating you?
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 9:29 pm | #
Well, now I know that the wave is more than just a friendly greeting!
The meeting fell within their area of coverage, and one of them probably would have been assigned had editors chosen to staff the event. But one is on book leave, one was traveling with the secretary of defense, and one was in Iraq covering the war. The Times also did not cover an announcement the following day by Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership of Iraq Veterans Against the War, the group which organized Winter Soldier.
One group was emphasizing what it charged were war crimes, war profiteering and war mismanagement. The other group was protesting what it charged was the failure of the media to report more fully on signs of progress in Iraq, such as rebuilt schools and infrastructure.
Washington Post: There are only 2 sides to any discussion. The 2 sides in this discussion both are yelling at us, which means we must be doing something right.
Homosexual Activist |
04.12.08 - 9:30 pm | #
Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership of Iraq Veterans Against the War,
The difference between the two groups, of course, is that you don't have to be a vet to be a member of Vets for Freedom.
Avedon |
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04.12.08 - 9:32 pm | #
The Times also did not cover an announcement the following day by Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership of Iraq Veterans Against the War, the group which organized Winter Soldier.
Somehow I thinks this is bullshit.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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04.12.08 - 9:32 pm | #
Most Americans don’t want to hear, see or feel anything about the Iraq war. They want to look away, period, and have been doing so for some time.
Look away from what, the nonexistent media coverage? Is it possible to look away from an absence?
Homosexual Activist |
04.12.08 - 9:32 pm | #
The Times also did not cover an announcement the following day by Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership of Iraq Veterans Against the War, the group which organized Winter Soldier.
We're impartial beause we can't be bothered covering EITHER side of a controversy.
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 9:33 pm | #
Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership of Iraq Veterans Against the War,
Bullshit!
Terry C, Obama 08
I hereby claim that 150% of Americans support the Fuck You, You Total Dicks! War Resistance Organization.
V for Virginia, drinkin4.gov |
04.12.08 - 9:33 pm | #
Vets for Freedom is just a Powerloins satellite operation.
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04.12.08 - 9:34 pm | #
Just finished watching the Hammer Films version of "The Hound of the Baskervilles", with Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing on RetroPlex.
Good Lord, about the only relationship to the original story is the names of the characters.
Not a badly done film, not by any means, but it's a poor retelling of the original.
Maybe it's time to foreclose the corporate segments of the Fourth Estate. Let them feel a little mortgage pain.
Elias: Sans guns or religion. |
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04.12.08 - 9:36 pm | #
Vets for Freedom is just a Powerloins satellite operation.
P O'Neill
Which explains why you don't have to be a vet to join their group...
George Johnston |
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04.12.08 - 9:37 pm | #
group supporting the war andclaimingmore than 13 times...
No one calls sheets anymore, huh?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 9:37 pm | #
I called sheets
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
04.12.08 - 9:38 pm | #
Hey, i typed owls down there!!
leibniz♘☮ |
04.12.08 - 9:38 pm | #
Maybe you need to read the original Fair article to get the full flavor of the egregiousness.
(I just had a very strange Haloscan experience.)
Avedon |
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04.12.08 - 9:38 pm | #
we're them
This would make my dad cry
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.12.08 - 9:38 pm | #
V for Virginia, I take it things went downhill at school.
pie
Ugh. Ick. Blech.
Pending.
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04.12.08 - 9:38 pm | #
The main Vets for Freedom dude is Pete Hegseth, who is from Minnesota and goes way back with Assrocket, Deacon, and Trunk. There's also a Princeton connection to Betrayus.
P O'Neill |
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04.12.08 - 9:38 pm | #
Is it possible to look away from an absence?
Homosexual Activist
This is the dilemma inherent in ignoring trolls.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Whose freedom? It's what gets me about this whole masquerade. Was our nation's continuity ever in the balance? Fuck no. It's a big reason why we were successful in WWII. It would take an invading force fucking decades, just to get to St. Louis.
MP |
04.12.08 - 9:40 pm | #
The main Vets for Freedom dude is Pete Hegseth, who is from Minnesota and goes way back with Assrocket, Deacon, and Trunk.
Also Tweety's talking warmonger parrot.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 9:40 pm | #
It is so discouraging. When I am not swearing at something I am reading or hearing, I just want to cry...
Stormysu |
04.12.08 - 9:41 pm | #
No one calls sheets anymore, huh?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Oh, no! He killfiled Kenny!
George Johnston |
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04.12.08 - 9:41 pm | #
For only then will know without asking when there is fresh linen.
Like when no one has made a new comment in at least two minutes...
pie |
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04.12.08 - 9:41 pm | #
Maybe it's time to foreclose the corporate segments of the Fourth Estate. Let them feel a little mortgage pain.
Heh. They already are. The weak dollar has dramatically driven up the cost of newsprint.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Eh, I'm back. Harry Potter was boring.
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 9:42 pm | #
When I am not swearing at something I am reading or hearing, I just want to cry...
Stormysu
You've GOT to work on your multitasking skills.
V for Virginia, drinkin4.gov |
04.12.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Maybe you need to read the original Fair article to get the full flavor of the egregiousness.
I'm on their emailing list. I'd suggest everyone get on it. FAIR is invaluable, on any topic.
Elias: Sans guns or religion. |
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04.12.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Timmeh actually takes the recession seriously as of Friday, with GE profits in the tank.
P O'Neill |
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04.12.08 - 9:42 pm | #
"Like when no one has made a new comment in at least two minutes..."
yeah that's how I tell
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Timmeh actually takes the recession seriously as of Friday, with GE profits in the tank.
he won't have to take it as seriously as Matthews. Look for Tweety to show up on Pox News with his buddy Fucker Carlson in coming months.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 9:44 pm | #
like now?
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 9:45 pm | #
Vets for Freedom, a group supporting the war and claiming more than 13 times the membership of Iraq Veterans Against the War,
Bullshit!
Terry C, Obama 08
Membership
People who wish to join the Vets for Freedom are not required to have served in the military in any capacity. Prospective members need only support veterans to join. Members who claim to be veterans are not required to submit proof of service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Vet...dom_Action_Fund
Lumpenprolitariot |
04.12.08 - 9:45 pm | #
thank you for putting up this story, Avedon.
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 9:46 pm | #
"Like when no one has made a new comment in at least two minutes..."
yeah that's how I tell
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
How I tell is, I go play three turns in various games of scrabble, ask the mister a question that involves a complex answer, let the cats out, get another glass of wine, let the cats in, answer the phone, respond to another comment in excrutiating detail, wait several minutes, and realize I'm posting on a dead thread.
Not for the faint at heart but it works for me
V for Virginia, drinkin4.gov |
04.12.08 - 9:46 pm | #
People who wish to join the Vets for Freedom are not required to have served in the military in any capacity.
They just need to get a woody from the thought of someone else putting their life on the line.
I get it.....chickenhawks.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 9:47 pm | #
Did y'all hear about the Cheney/nude woman controversy?
Ewwwwww. I'd expect him to have the fifth and final if it were really a nude.
Timmeh actually takes the recession seriously as of Friday, with GE profits in the tank.
Immelt's checking his options. Meanwhile, the IMF says hundreds of thousands of people will face starvation if food prices continue to rise.
Homosexual Activist |
04.12.08 - 9:48 pm | #
Members who claim to be veterans are not required to submit proof of service
An Act of State: The Execution of Martin Luther King. By William F. Pepper.
(London and New York: Verso, 2003. Pp. x, 334. $25.00, ISBN 1-85984695-5.)
Pepper argues that King's opposition to the Vietnam War and his leadership of the upcoming Poor People's Campaign came to be seen as intolerable threats by the established corporate power ...
Sometimes, you can be two threads behind when Atrios is doing the one-two punch.
Draco is down two thousand thread asking why Tena hasn't responded to him.
leibniz♘☮ |
04.12.08 - 9:51 pm | #
How's Mama Watertiger doing?
Good!
i love that story about abu.
watertiger |
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04.12.08 - 9:51 pm | #
Did y'all hear about the Cheney/nude woman controversy?
The Cheneys [that's Chee-nees] had $3.04 million in adjusted gross income in 2007.
Homosexual Activist |
04.12.08 - 9:51 pm | #
Ichiro just threw out a guy at home. From center field.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.12.08 - 9:51 pm | #
I was very young then, did we have like 118 changes in field command back in Vietnam? I thought it was Westmoreland, mostly.
MP |
04.12.08 - 9:52 pm | #
So is Hillary now part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?
Er, dunno.....didn't get the memo.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Draco is down two thousand thread asking why Tena hasn't responded to him.
That thread must be awfully blood-smeared by now.
pie |
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04.12.08 - 9:52 pm | #
What the goddamn fucking fuck?
commercial spots are sold by the cable company, not by the broadcasters themselves.
I imagine the Science Channel would be an attractive target for superstitious simpletons with an agenda.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Time to ROCK!!!!
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Nic Armstrong:
Draco is down two thousand thread asking why Tena hasn't responded to him.
Didn't someone say he was dead?
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Heh...we went and got beer. And it's hoppy. Hoppier than Hop Devil.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Ichiro just threw out a guy at home. From center field.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
Hall of Famer, in my book. That cannon of his is astounding.
MP |
04.12.08 - 9:53 pm | #
NYT on a shady deal in which Iraq bought shoddy weapons from Serbia. The lie is the claim that the US don't know anything about the deal before it went down. The neocons have loved the Serbs for a long time, since they were fighting teh Muslim (and teh Clenis) before it was cool.
About Abu.
Do you think he might be reconsidering his prickish behavior?
They were just using his lameness to further their own goals. He was never really one of them™.
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04.12.08 - 9:54 pm | #
Ichiro just threw out a guy at home. From center field.
it'd be nice, just once, to go down to King Street and see the Mariners not suck.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 9:54 pm | #
Well, I was gonna post the Abu story, but you beat me. So have some Laura Nyro instead.
Avedon |
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04.12.08 - 9:54 pm | #
What about Abu?
pie |
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04.12.08 - 9:54 pm | #
Dude can't get a job.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Seems our Abu caint get no job.
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 9:55 pm | #
"What about Abu?"
He's been voted Qwick E Mart's employee of the year.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
Ichiro just threw out a guy at home. From center field.
Have you seen the new Twins' centerfielder? Carlos Gomez...the fastest guy in the league.
Picked him up from the Mets in the Santana trade. He was their top prospect.
And OH FUCK...David Geddes just came on the radio.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
They just need to get a woody from the thought of someone else putting their life on the line.
I get it.....chickenhawks.
Terry C, Obama 08
When I went over there I expected to find that they included vets from other conflicts. They're bigger asshole then even I assumed.
Lumpenprolitariot |
04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
Seems our Abu caint get no job.
Doesn't have a Green card?
HAHAHA! He's not one of them. What a fool.
pie |
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04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
I'm thinking, at this juncture, probably sleep.
I love you all more than life itself (certain restrictions apply, you know who you are).
Good night, and good motherfucking luck, motherfuckers!
V for Virginia, drinkin4.gov |
04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
sshhh . . . Depp and Bower gonna sing Johanna, love it
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04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
Basel II: Bamboozle Boogaloo
Homosexual Activist
That regime was doomed from the moment they went with Basel and not Basle as the correct pronunciation.
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04.12.08 - 9:56 pm | #
What about Abu?
He's facing a tough job market. Can you imagine, with his, um, credentials?
Homosexual Activist |
04.12.08 - 9:57 pm | #
Backers of Freedom’s Watch once talked about spending some $200 million, a figure that officials now say was exaggerated. Lending to the aura of ambition, the organization moved into a state-of-the-art 10,000-square-foot office in Washington and hired a staff of about 20, with talk of bringing in scores more for a vigorous campaign to promote conservative issues.
Behind the scenes, however, Freedom’s Watch has been plagued by gridlock and infighting, leaving it struggling for direction, according to several Republican operatives familiar with the organization who were granted anonymity so they could be candid about the group’s problems.
haters can't agree who to hate?
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04.12.08 - 9:57 pm | #
They just need to get a woody from the thought of someone else putting their life on the line.
I get it.....chickenhawks.
Terry C, Obama 08
When I went over there I expected to find that they included vets from other conflicts. They're bigger asshole then even I assumed.
Lumpenprolitariot
I guess Iraq War Cheerleaders isn't macho sounding enough.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Anyone want to go to Atlantic City with me and card count?
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.12.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Anyone want to go to Atlantic City with me and card count?
does that work?
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Should we assume that the Bush Regime has thrown Abu under the bus?
What a surprise!
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 10:00 pm | #
WalterNeff.
Theoretcally it is possible but with six decks (or more) it is pretty damned hard.
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Because I might be interested if it gets me a roof deck.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Omigod, this is amazing news if true!
An injection that dramatically relieved the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease within minutes would qualify as the discovery of the decade. That is exactly what was claimed yesterday for an experimental treatment being tested in America.
Scientists at the Institute for Neurological Research at the University of California have treated around 50 patients at a private clinic by injecting an anti-arthritic drug, etanercept, into the spinal column in the neck and then tilting the patients to encourage the drug to flow to the brain.
They claim 90 per cent respond to the treatment, usually within minutes, and have released videos of patients to prove it.
He's facing a tough job market. Can you imagine, with his, um, credentials?
Credentials are not a Bush administration strong suit. But that doesn't bode well for poor Abu's future.
pie |
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04.12.08 - 10:01 pm | #
Anyone want to go to Atlantic City with me and card count?
why not reno?
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:01 pm | #
does that work?
Roxanne
Not really. As I understand it (and I could be wrong) Roulette has the best odds if you just go for red or black.
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 10:01 pm | #
Because the AC is 40 minutes away.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:01 pm | #
My sister won $30K on craps.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Should we assume that the Bush Regime has thrown Abu under the bus?
He's only allowed back inside the compound in a grass trimming capacity.
MP |
04.12.08 - 10:02 pm | #
That is an interesting story re: the Alzheimer's treatment.
Hope it holds up to scrutiny.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 10:04 pm | #
Roulette has the best odds if you just go for red or black.
It's still less than 50-50 because of the 0 and 00.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Yeah, I guess the Bushco folks are really the Daisy Buchanans of our culture. They didn't have to throw Abu under the bus, they just left him by the side of the road, having no more use for him.
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 10:05 pm | #
that's fun to think about. a state dinner for a guest who refuses to come. more awkward than colbert at the press corps dinner, even.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:07 pm | #
I took great pleasure calling dood "The Rat" all over Europe.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:07 pm | #
Anyone want to go to Atlantic City with me and card count?
I don't know how to card count, but I'm good at providing a diversion.
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 10:07 pm | #
It's still less than 50-50 because of the 0 and 00.
Toonscribe
Yes, that is true. But having watched the damned dealer do some amazing things in Blackjack . . . .
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 10:07 pm | #
Anyone want to go to Atlantic City with me and card count?
I couldn't pull off card counting if there were only eight cards in the shoe.
MP |
04.12.08 - 10:08 pm | #
Life imitates art.
What was the warning Cliff Robertson's character gives Robert Redford's at the end of "Three Days of the Condor"?
Gimlet |
04.12.08 - 10:08 pm | #
Watch for the Cornholers to be claiming that the Vatican is just another Yurp'an state.
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04.12.08 - 10:08 pm | #
Chris Tucker, I'm with you on that. My dad died from dementia (not specifically Alzhiemers) and I do not want to go out that way.
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 10:09 pm | #
Be sure to check out the homepage. I've got some David Geddes. That should be enough right there.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 10:10 pm | #
Watch for the Cornholers to be claiming that the Vatican is just another Yurp'an state.
If that's the case, so is the new American embassy in Baghdad.
Good night!
pie |
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04.12.08 - 10:10 pm | #
What was the warning Cliff Robertson's character gives Robert Redford's at the end of "Three Days of the Condor"?
I don't remember. All I can think about is in this context is "Flowers for Algernon."
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:10 pm | #
What was the warning Cliff Robertson's character gives Robert Redford's at the end of "Three Days of the Condor"?
"What if they don't print it?"
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 10:10 pm | #
Blackjack with basic strategy will give you the best odds... less than a 1% house advantage. Baccarat and Craps(straight no-pass line) are next best with a little over 1% house advantage.
racymind |
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04.12.08 - 10:10 pm | #
This is the problem. (I really do not know the solution other than to keep hammering them)
Obama, on Defensive, Says His Remarks on Voters Weren’t Artful
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE and JEFF ZELENY
Senator Barack Obama tried to explain a comment that small-town voters, bitter over the economy, “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”
* Clinton Portrays Herself as a Pro-Gun Churchgoer
* Go to Complete Coverage »
‘Steady Hand’ for the G.O.P. Guides McCain on a New Path
By KATE ZERNIKE
Charlie Black is easing Senator John McCain into his new role as standard bearer for the party with which he has often clashed.
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 10:12 pm | #
I prefer sports gambling... but am not really into any sports lately.
racymind |
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What was the warning Cliff Robertson's character gives Robert Redford's at the end of "Three Days of the Condor"?
"What if they don't print it?"
Toonscribe | 04.12.08 - 10:10 pm |
Didn't Stephen King have the lead character in Firestarter take her story to Rolling Stone instead of the NYT?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Maybe Abu can get a job torturing Lou Dobbs.
George Johnston |
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04.12.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Gotta run, the new Doctor Who just finished downloading.
Truly, BitTorrent and .avi are proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy!
This is the problem. (I really do not know the solution other than to keep hammering them)
I'm not as bothered by this kind of shit anymore, because I don't think that many people are reading the paper, or believing what they read in the paper. They are starting to believe their lying eyes instead.
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Woooo Hoooo!!!
Canadiens win in overtime.
aangus: Now with SPRING!® |
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04.12.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Did we mention that Burn Notice is back in a minute? And that this is my swell little raised patio?
That's nice. I had been giving a lot of thought to a flagstone patio out in back, but we decided that it's just too goddamn hot down here for us to have gotten any use out of it.
So I keep grilling on the concrete walk. Maybe I'll put some pavers out there so that I'm not always tromping on the flowers the last owner left behind.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:15 pm | #
I just ate a whole sleeve of Fig Newtons
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04.12.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Canadiens win in overtime.
It's moot, since my Wild are gonna take the good Lord's cup this year.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 10:16 pm | #
My father died of vascular dementia. What was astonishing about that particular case was that when he got a very bad bout of pneumonia (he was pretty much out of it for two weeks) something seemed to have happened in his brain, some repair, because he was considerably better for a few months after that illness.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Maybe Abu can get a job torturing Lou Dobbs.
He's got the resume for it, but who would pay for that, when so many people are willing to do it for free?
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Three people were injured Saturday night before a game between the Minnesota Timberwolves and Memphis Grizzlies when a small section of the stands at FedExForum collapsed.
One person was taken away on a stretcher and two others were treated at the scene. Grizzlies spokesman Dustin Krugel said during the game all three were taken to various Memphis hospitals as a precaution. Officials did not have the identities of any of the injured or specific hospitals, but all three were alert and conscious after the accident.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 10:20 pm | #
"Dimocrat Presidential Candidate Messiah Hussein GodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Obama Sought To Minimize Damage To His Campaign From Remarks He Made Insulting To Americans Living In Small Towns, Americans Of Faith, Gun-Owning Americans, Americans Concerned About Rampant Illegal Immigration And Americans Concerned About Globalization And Free Trade..."
Mr. Bush’s capacity for denial is limitless. Perhaps he believes that the next president will continue this misadventure without any end in mind, let alone in sight. Even then he owes it to his successor to use his remaining nine months in office to try to address Iraq’s myriad problems. That will not excuse Mr. Bush’s serial failures. But it may increase the chances for the inevitable withdrawal to be as orderly as possible.
Mr. Bush has all the time he needs, but Iraq’s suffering civilians do not, and neither do its masses of refugees, the bloodied and strained United States armed forces, or the American public.
The problem with this, New York Times, is this: I actually read your newspaper in the run-up to war and you did not raise the alarm, though you should have. Instead you advocated for the war, daily, stridently, and unmistakenly. And not only that: you did your best to minimize the RATIONAL voices who were saying, this is one terrible idea. When a million New Yorkers were in the streets, you barely mentioned their presence other to dismiss them as being a small group of malcontents and unAmerican to boot.
It takes a certain amount of crassness to criticize the man you helped put in the WHITE HOUSE TWICE in the pages of your newspaper now that all of the things that the rational people warned about have come to fruition.
IN other words: Suck. On. This.
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 10:21 pm | #
Didn't Stephen King have the lead character in Firestarter take her story to Rolling Stone instead of the NYT?
I think he did IIRC.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 10:21 pm | #
I bought the first season of The Wire - never seen it: will I like?
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04.12.08 - 10:21 pm | #
I can operate a floor buffer "without getting hurt". Why can't Boortz?
Of all the things Boortz can't do, why focus on that one?
Know first that, as close as I am to Atlanta, I have no idea how I would even go about listening to Boortz, in the unlikely event that I would want to.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:21 pm | #
"What if they don't print it?"
Toonscribe | 04.12.08 - 10:10 pm |
Didn't Stephen King have the lead character in Firestarter take her story to Rolling Stone instead of the NYT?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
The New York Times' new slogan:
"All the News That's Not Fit to Line the Bottom of your Birdcage!"
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:22 pm | #
I bought the first season of The Wire - never seen it: will I like?
We saw it for the first time last night. It's pretty good.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 10:22 pm | #
Officials did not have the identities of any of the injured or specific hospitals, but all three were alert and conscious after the accident.
Zap Rowsdower
Their law firms have been contacted . . . .
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 10:22 pm | #
Kohls is now selling Vera Wang. The commercial has young women driving down a windy highway and stopping and riding a merry go round in the middle of the desert. All of this to the song Horse with No name
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04.12.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Maybe Pinch Sulzburger isn't cut out for the job. It's not the first time sons of great men have turned out to be less than the father.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:23 pm | #
"Dimocrat Presidential Candidate Messiah Hussein GodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Obama Sought To Minimize Damage To His Campaign From Remarks He Made Insulting To Americans Living In Small Towns, Americans Of Faith, Gun-Owning Americans, Americans Concerned About Rampant Illegal Immigration And Americans Concerned About Globalization And Free Trade..."
Do you write for the Post?
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:24 pm | #
My father died of vascular dementia.
that's what got my mom, Echidne.
She had periods of bewildering clarity at times, particularly before she died.
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Lubyanka | 04.12.08 - 10:21 pm | #
The problem with fucking morons like you is that you don't have a clue that you're an idiot. Just accept that you're a fucking idiot already. You're never going to be smart, ever. Deal with it.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.12.08 - 10:24 pm | #
Kohls is now selling Vera Wang.
Don't bother. The shoes are hideous. I wouldn't wear them to watch dogs have intercourse.
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04.12.08 - 10:24 pm | #
She had periods of bewildering clarity at times, particularly before she died.
Maybe it's just the way that disease is, then.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:25 pm | #
Kohls is now selling Vera Wang.
kinky. Is she going to have it attached, or mounted?
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:25 pm | #
I just ate a whole sleeve of Fig Newtons
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
This is basically the goal when one opens a package of FNs. Well done.
I'm also that way with Ritz crackers, but a suitable dip or cheesoid substance is required...
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04.12.08 - 10:26 pm | #
The shoes are hideous. I wouldn't wear them to watch dogs have intercourse.
Monica_A: Dammit! | 04.12.08 - 10:24 pm |
Doesn't mean anything, since everyone knows that's a job best done barefoot.
Republicans are so afraid of Obama that their flogging this ridiculous story. Does anyone remember how Reagan won the first election? Something a-p-a-thetic Democratic voters.
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04.12.08 - 10:26 pm | #
The shoes are hideous. I wouldn't wear them to watch dogs have intercourse.
I prefer high top Chucks for that.
(in green)
virgotex |
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04.12.08 - 10:27 pm | #
Kohls is now selling Vera Wang.
Is that some sort of oriental medicine, like deer penis?
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.12.08 - 10:27 pm | #
Pinch Sulzburger is an international embarrassment and his newspaper is nothing but a beached whale rotting in the sun..
Is this a great country or what?
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04.12.08 - 10:27 pm | #
Doesn't mean anything, since everyone knows that's a job best done barefoot.
You could really do a great service to your country by just killing yourself already. One less chickenshit getting other people killed.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.12.08 - 10:28 pm | #
Didn't Stephen King have the lead character in Firestarter take her story to Rolling Stone instead of the NYT?
I think he did IIRC.
Toonscribe | 04.12.08 - 10:21 pm |
On instructions from her Dad. I was just 14 when I read that, so I didn't read anything into it, but perhaps Mr. King is a little more aware of what kind of newspaper the NYT is, even in fiction?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:29 pm | #
I once watched a dog have intercourse. She had a mirror on the ceiling.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
Was she drinking pink champagne, on ice?
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:29 pm | #
Cspan has a memorial for William F. Buckley. Roger Kimball, editor of the New Criterion, currently speaking. K Kimball says Buckley rescued conservatism from it's former role as a talisman for the perpetually disgruntled.
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04.12.08 - 10:29 pm | #
I once watched a dog have intercourse. She had a mirror on the ceiling.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
Ssssssssss! (if you're talkin' about her)
Aw c'mon (if you're talkin' about yourself)
whiskeyina, bourbon cupcake |
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04.12.08 - 10:29 pm | #
I have a whole tray of wildberry newtons that I picked up at the grocery store, if anyone's hungry.
Except WalterNeff, since he's exceeded his RDA for newtons.
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04.12.08 - 10:30 pm | #
perhaps Mr. King is a little more aware of what kind of newspaper the NYT is, even in fiction?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
No perhaps about it. He intentionally had the character go to the "alternative" press.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:30 pm | #
I finally figured out who Echidne looks like: my first Poli-Sci professor. She had a profound impact on how I view politics. We discussed De Tocqueville the whole semester. Just the two of us.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:30 pm | #
K Kimball says Buckley rescued conservatism from it's former role as a talisman for the perpetually disgruntled.
And he almost lived long enough to see it take its last breath.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:30 pm | #
I think Bill Buckley is having a hot time now.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
Kimball says conversations with Buckley seldom revolved around politics. Kimball says Buckley's devotion to private pursuits was actually an expression of his appetite for ordered liberty.
weev |
04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
K Kimball says Buckley rescued conservatism from it's former role as a talisman for the perpetually disgruntled.
Who will save it now that it's a refuge for the functionally retarded?
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
Monica_A: Dammit!, I looked for you in EschaConII, but you ran away or hid behind a pillar or something.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
Buckley rescued conservatism from it's former role as a talisman for the perpetually disgruntled.
weev |
And now, it can go back to it's rightful, irrelevant place.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
I have a whole tray of wildberry newtons that I picked up at the grocery store, if anyone's hungry.
do you buy all your groceries at Big Lots, or just the inedible ones?
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
For every cookie there is an equal and opposite cookie - Fig Newton's Third Law
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04.12.08 - 10:31 pm | #
We should ease up on the trolls a bit. There going to lose the executive and legislative branches in a matter of months. Let them have their last shout.
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04.12.08 - 10:32 pm | #
I don't even know what a Big Lots is...
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04.12.08 - 10:32 pm | #
George Will says we are all Buckleyites now and as a side note says we are all digging out from the debris of former Princeton President Woodrow Wilson.
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04.12.08 - 10:32 pm | #
whiskeyina!!
MUAH DAAAHLING.
how is you
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 10:32 pm | #
Kimball says Buckley's devotion to private pursuits was actually an expression of his appetite for ordered liberty.
also an outlet for his repressed lust for Walter Cronkite.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:33 pm | #
wildberry newtons - I like the idea
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 10:33 pm | #
We should ease up on the trolls a bit. There going to lose the executive and legislative branches in a matter of months. Let them have their last shout.
If you think they're going to go quietly into the night, take yourself back to '93.
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04.12.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Monica_A: Dammit!, I looked for you in EschaConII, but you ran away or hid behind a pillar or something.
I was sitting at the table with NTodd during your panel. You helped my sister-in-law understand economics a little better. Her husband thanks you.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:33 pm | #
I'm listening to stomach-grating jazz right now. Not sure if I like it because it's sawing my stomach open but it's good.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:33 pm | #
For every cookie there is an equal and opposite cookie - Fig Newton's Third Law
I love Fig Newtons, but I hate Not Wengifs.
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04.12.08 - 10:34 pm | #
George is probably going to join Bill in that hot time.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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04.12.08 - 10:34 pm | #
oh, was that some song lyric?
nevermind.
whiskeyina, bourbon cupcake
We are all just prisoners here, of our own device.
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04.12.08 - 10:34 pm | #
DWD | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 10:21 pm
you did send this to NYT.
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04.12.08 - 10:34 pm | #
I was sitting at the table with NTodd during your panel. You helped my sister-in-law understand economics a little better. Her husband thanks you.
He is welcome.
But you ran away right after that. Not even asking for my autograph...
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:34 pm | #
"Clinton and Her Campaign Were Quick To Point Out The Elitism and Arrogance Of GodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Obama's Remorks..."
Zapette and I are going to play Rummy and knock back a few Summit EPAs. Later.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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04.12.08 - 10:35 pm | #
If you think they're going to go quietly into the night, take yourself back to '93.
But now we have our own weapon: The Blogosphere!
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:35 pm | #
George Will says that William F Fuckley used to use his dick as a swizzle stick, and he liked inserting the martini olive into his ass. And that this is what made him understand liberty.
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04.12.08 - 10:35 pm | #
George Will says the founding fathers deliberately designed an INEFFICIENT government, that's what they meant by limited government, and as a side note Will says he finds 'gridlock' the most beautiful word in the english language.
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04.12.08 - 10:35 pm | #
perhaps Mr. King is a little more aware of what kind of newspaper the NYT is, even in fiction?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
No perhaps about it. He intentionally had the character go to the "alternative" press.
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.12.08 - 10:30 pm | #
Firestarter, The Stand, The Mist, the gov't isn't your friend in those books, indeed it is your enemy.
So the 'counterculture/alterntive' press would be more the likely outlet to print something that the mainstreem corporate press would not.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
Big Lots is a chain of close-out merch stores. Hit or miss, really, on the stuff they sell and the individual store's stock. I've bought pretty nifty stuff there as well as regular pantry stuff. Also good for seasonal decorations, garden things, you know--stuff.
The one in the town I live in now though is inconveniently located for me.
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
Dogs are perfectly content to do nothing in life other that eat, sleep, and lick their genitals.
MP |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
we are all digging out from the debris of former Princeton President Woodrow Wilson.
weev
Oh, he just wants to blame Wilson because he likes to think of him as the first modern internationalist..
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
It's a bow tie, George, not a tourniquet...
nick carraway |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
Or is, rather.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
wildberry newtons - I like the idea
I'm a newton purist -- it's fig or nothing.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
Will says politicians became garrulous with the coming of the mass media but the early fathers rarely spoke to the country because they didn't have the technological means.
weev |
04.12.08 - 10:36 pm | #
But you ran away right after that. Not even asking for my autograph...
I was shy. You give a wonderful presentation on Economics and I'm known for encouraging Simels to write "blow me". I felt intellectually out of your league.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:37 pm | #
I don't even know what a Big Lots is...
it's essentially an outlet for cheap Chinese tools, Naugahyde furniture, and postdated groceries that won't sell.
S'mores-flavored Pop-Tarts, for example.
Probably regional to the South and Midwest.
theodoric of athens |
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04.12.08 - 10:37 pm | #
Dogs are perfectly content to do nothing in life other that eat, sleep, and lick their genitals.
MP
Good thing my face can't reach..
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:37 pm | #
"We should ease up on the trolls a bit."
No. We should kick them until they go down - then kick them again.
actually here they should be ignored.
In the real world they (repugs) should be pounded into dirt like a croquet stake.
then they should be buried under gravel.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 10:37 pm | #
Stephen King was a Republican up until just a few years ago. His wife Tabitha (a blogreader) finally got through to him what kind of shiteating dicklocks the Republican party had become.
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04.12.08 - 10:37 pm | #
I'm a newton purist -- it's fig or nothing.
Toonscribe
You just made Isaac cry.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 10:37 pm | #
K Kimball says Buckley rescued conservatism from it's former role as a talisman for the perpetually disgruntled.
That's completely silly and completely backwards. Conservatism had certain tenets that made it respectable, underlying ideas that made it possible for a somewhat honest person to be "conservatoive" in certain times; Buckley (whose last book was called Cancel Your Own God Damn Subscription) was a part of a movement that plunged it into being a talisman for the perpetually disgruntled.
Who really gives a shit what that fucking whore says? He's been consistently wrong every time he opens his mouth. Typical repuke.
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04.12.08 - 10:38 pm | #
No perhaps about it. He intentionally had the character go to the "alternative" press.
With apologies to person upthread who said Harry Potter was "boring," I was sort of surprised not to have more comment at the time about the parallels in "Deathly Hallows" to the situation discussed here. Harry had to take his (Rita Whatsername's) expose of The True Truths about the Dark Lord to the radical wackaloon rag The Quibbler, because the "legitimate press" of the Daily Prophet wouldn't print it due to political pressure.
And people sneer at pop culture...(shakes head sadly.)
Helen Bonham Carter's apple newtons fill my screen
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04.12.08 - 10:38 pm | #
I felt intellectually out of your league.
Monica_A: Dammit!
Nevah! You have a genius way of stating things. And very funny.
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04.12.08 - 10:38 pm | #
Uncle Blodge!
I am well, thank you for asking. What a lovely day I've had.
Caution: Long Answer
Woke up and made coffee con leche and toast with brie for breakfast. Took it back to bed with me, ate and read while the girls played happily in their room.
Started on Saturday chores when my drummer called and asked if I wanted to come down to the school we just saved from extinction (for another year) and sing to celebrate. The girls & I went down, and I sang & played outside.
It turned into a summer warm day and we left the school and went for ice cream. Then we went down to the river to check on the flood. And to the pond for frogs and turtles.
Then, to a friend's house for supper. Her two girls played with my two girls while she & I and another friend sat in the dining room drinking beer and taking turns playing and singing.
Just got home a about 45 minutes ago. Put two very tired girls to bed way past their bedtime. But if felt like summer today!
And how's things with you?
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04.12.08 - 10:39 pm | #
it's essentially an outlet for cheap Chinese tools, Naugahyde furniture, and postdated groceries that won't sell.
Like the Building 19-and-some-fractions here in New England.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:39 pm | #
Stephen King was a Republican up until just a few years ago. His wife
Tabitha (a blogreader) finally got through to him what kind of
shiteating dicklocks the Republican party had become.
This is happening all over, no thanks to the Democratic Republicans. Tom Petty normally avoids politics but he came out against bush in disgust at the whole basing a war on lies thing.
I'm all for kicking people when they're down. Especially in the no-no parts.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:40 pm | #
"And people sneer at pop culture..."
I rather liked Harry Potter. But then again I am not cool enough to sneer at culture - except my yogurt.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 10:40 pm | #
Dogs are perfectly content to do nothing in life other that eat, sleep, and lick their genitals.
MP |
good. I can use the help.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 10:40 pm | #
Stephen King was a Republican up until just a few years ago. His wife Tabitha (a blogreader) finally got through to him what kind of shiteating dicklocks the Republican party had become.
Mr French | 04.12.08 - 10:37 pm
I don't remember him being a republican, though apparently Dean Koontz is.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:41 pm | #
good evening batses
I hate filing tax returns!
::matthew |
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04.12.08 - 10:41 pm | #
George Will says Buckley's fundamental legacy was to make politics fun again and leave us with much good cheer.
weev |
04.12.08 - 10:41 pm | #
But then again I am not cool enough to sneer at culture - except my yogurt.
Uncle Blodge
You don't need to be cool to sneer at culture, sneering at it MAKES you cool.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 10:42 pm | #
And how's things with you?
A polar bear fell on me.*
See, Echidne. I think "Roadhouse" is an entertaining movie. You don't want to meet me.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:42 pm | #
People who are not interested in politics sometimes are that way because they have nothing to complain. Not all such people, but some. Then when something turns up (Bush) which destroys everything, suddenly they develop the interest.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:42 pm | #
I was a Republican during the first quarter of 2003. Nice quarter.
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04.12.08 - 10:42 pm | #
Rich Lowry says yes Buckley turned against the war in Iraq but he never waivered from the war on terror.
weev |
04.12.08 - 10:43 pm | #
I don't remember him being a republican, though apparently Dean Koontz is.
can I finish that sentence?
snehta fo cirodoeht |
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04.12.08 - 10:43 pm | #
Well, Dean Koontz would be a Republican.
the goddamn k&y |
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04.12.08 - 10:43 pm | #
"And how's things with you?"
I ate cheese.
watched the "deadliest catch" marathon
took my kids to taco bell (i TOLD YOU i am uncool)
got a jump on my prep work.
scratched myself.
not as good as your day but hey - it's the only day I had.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
04.12.08 - 10:43 pm | #
I was a Republican during the first quarter of 2003. Nice quarter.
WalterNeff
it's like sitting on the beach with a tropical drink in your hand, without a worry in the world...
::matthew |
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04.12.08 - 10:43 pm | #
good evening batses
I hate filing tax returns!
I'm here avoiding them myself. If anyone sees me here tomorrow, please tell me to go work on my tax returns.
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04.12.08 - 10:44 pm | #
See, Echidne. I think "Roadhouse" is an entertaining movie. You don't want to meet me.
I don't even watch movies. When the threads turn to movies I go tra-la-lah.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:44 pm | #
I think "Roadhouse" is an entertaining movie. You don't want to meet me.
Monica_A: Dammit!
Rich Lowry says yes Buckley turned against the war in Iraq but he never waivered from the war on terror.
Who the hell is against the war on terror?! I don't want to speak for everyone here, but I don't think one of us is cheering Bin Laden or al- Qaeda on to victory. Lowry lobbed one of those cheap "I want to bring peace to all the world" softballs.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:45 pm | #
my wife has a friend who likes roadhouse. we excuse her for it, because we love her.
didn't that guitar playing dude in the movie recently die?
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04.12.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Stephen King was a Republican up until just a few years ago. His wife Tabitha (a blogreader) finally got through to him what kind of shiteating dicklocks the Republican party had become.
Mr French | 04.12.08 - 10:37 pm
I don't remember him being a republican, though apparently Dean Koontz is.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.12.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Ah, here's a source:
Grisham, King and Webb each said he had been a Republican before switching parties.
Dogs are perfectly content to do nothing in life other that eat, sleep, and lick their genitals.
MP
My "Low-brow" foundry buddies always claimed to have a "Dog's View of Life"
If you can't eat or fuck it: then piss on it.
(No comment)
Dogs spend lots of time playing and just having fun. Also sniffing.
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04.12.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Probably regional to the South and Midwest.
Nope. There's a Big Lots about 2 miles away from me in Canoga Park, CA. My daughter and sis-ijn-law rescued our new chihuahua there at Christmas when someone was dumping him in the parking lot.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 10:46 pm | #
I don't even watch movies. When the threads turn to movies I go tra-la-lah.
Echidne
You have to lower your expectations, snake goddess. I enjoy movies but I also seldom go to the theater to see them 'cause I can't stand JUST watching a movie. I watch movies but do a bunch of other stuff too. (Read, pick up the house, do the dishes, cook. . . .)
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04.12.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Thank you, Duane. I would even get into how many hours of my life have been wasted on "Flash Gordon". Try as I might to resist it sucks me in every time.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
04.12.08 - 10:47 pm | #
Hey beautiful people.
Had a great day with the family, and especially the Speedette. She's been cool since she was a baby. When she was still in the stroller, probably < 1 y.o., I would stroll her around my in-laws' yard, and they had a concrete St. Francis in the garden, and she wouldn't pass that St. Francis without patting him on the head. It was like, Keep your chin up, dude. And that's the way she still is. She's just beyond all of us. She's funny and sweet and smart as she can be. I just love that kid.
my wife has a friend who likes roadhouse. we excuse her for it, because we love her.
didn't that guitar playing dude in the movie recently die?
::matthew | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Jeff Healey. Helluva guitar player. Did just die recently and also had a new CD just come out. Killer blues.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.12.08 - 10:47 pm | #
No no no. I do not think Harry Potter is boring. No way. Just that the network is broadcasting Chamber of Secrets and I've seen it like three or four times. I'm an avid HP fan and will go back and re-read, especially the last book, from time to time. I've just been hanging out here all day and it seems to be enough, for now.
helena handbasket |
04.12.08 - 10:47 pm | #
"GodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Obama, Reeling From Criticism, Lashes Out:
'I went to Harvard, you trailer-trash, working-class whiteys in Pennsylvania and everywhere else. Look at me...'"
Lubyanka |
04.12.08 - 10:48 pm | #
You have to lower your expectations, snake goddess. I enjoy movies but I also seldom go to the theater to see them 'cause I can't stand JUST watching a movie. I watch movies but do a bunch of other stuff too. (Read, pick up the house, do the dishes, cook. . . .)
It could be that. But it started with me not being able to afford movies, so I never developed the habit. And I find most of them move so slow that I start doing silent qigong while sitting there. I do that in concerts, too, though.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:48 pm | #
Charles Kessler of the Claremont Review of Books says all of Buckley's classic political works are now unobtainable and out of print.
weev |
04.12.08 - 10:49 pm | #
People who are not interested in politics sometimes are that way because they have nothing to complain. Not all such people, but some. Then when something turns up (Bush) which destroys everything, suddenly they develop the interest.
Echidne | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 10:42 pm |
It's funny, I've read a lot of Stephen King (Though not everything) fiction and non-fiction. He never, ever struck me as a Republican. So he really must not have been paying attention the last 20 years to politics. Thank God for Tabitha.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:49 pm | #
I tried reading Harry Potter. Got through the first few pages of the first book. Seemed a little Ayn Rand to me.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 10:49 pm | #
Speedy Monopsony del Saxo, both she and you sound like treasures.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 10:50 pm | #
didn't that guitar playing dude in the movie recently die?
::matthew
Charles Kessler of the Claremont Review of Books says all of Buckley's classic political works are now unobtainable and out of print.
Really? Because I was in Borders a few days ago and William Buckley books were everywhere. Theodore White's; not so much.
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04.12.08 - 10:50 pm | #
The original Richmond Times Dispatch article doesn't exist anymore but I found an excerpt at Free Republic:
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 7:31:15 AM by ItMatters2Me
CHARLOTTESVILLE -- About 1,000 supporters of Democratic U.S. Senate nominee Jim Webb filled the Paramount Theater last night to hear readings by Webb and best-selling authors John Grisham and Stephen King. Webb is challenging Republican U.S. Sen. George Allen in the Nov. 7 election. Grisham, King and Webb each said he had been a Republican before switching parties. All three wore combat boots to honor Webb's son, Jimmy, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq. "How fitting that boots have become a symbol of this campaign," said Grisham, an Albemarle County resident. "On one side you have cowboy boots. A lot of these guys come from privileged backgrounds and to convince the public they are tough guys, they wear boots." "They are not real cowboys," Grisham said. "Willie Nelson said of our president, 'He ain't no cowboy, and he ain't from Texas.' The boots are part of a costume, part of an image. The trouble with political cowboys is they think they're tough, and to prove it they swagger around and they use macho language and they utter such wisdoms as 'Bring it on,' 'Mission accomplished' and here lately, 'Welcome to the real Virginia.'" His last reference was a paraphrase of Allen's remarks to S.R. Sidarth, a Webb volunteer with a camera, on Aug. 11. Sidarth, a University of Virginia student of Asian-Indian descent, joined musician Dave Matthews and other celebrities in the crowd. "Because they never saw the horror of combat, these cowboys are quick to decide that war is good and should be fought by the sons and daughters of others," Grisham said.
(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...
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04.12.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Just that the network is broadcasting Chamber of Secrets and I've seen it like three or four times.
I confess to spending a great deal of the day watching all 3 LOTR movies on TNT for about the 37 millionth time.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 10:50 pm | #
No no no. I do not think Harry Potter is boring. No way. Just that the network is broadcasting Chamber of Secrets and I've seen it like three or four times. I'm an avid HP fan and will go back and re-read, especially the last book, from time to time. I've just been hanging out here all day and it seems to be enough, for now.
helena handbasket | 04.12.08 - 10:47 pm | #
While i don't like the movies as much as I do the books, I can hardly watch the network airings of them because there are too many commercials. Thank god for DVD's.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Today's movie recommend: "Eagle vs. Shark"
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04.12.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Yes. Yes i am. If i could do that I'd buy myself roses every week.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
I had that thought for two years, back in the 60's.
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04.12.08 - 10:51 pm | #
I didn't go to college, and I think brian is trailer trash.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Jay Nordlinger says Buckley absolutely loved being a star.
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04.12.08 - 10:51 pm | #
DWD of the Realist's Review of Books says all of Buckley's classic political works are full of mierda and now are finally out of print and no longer a danger to impressionable idiots.
weev
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04.12.08 - 10:52 pm | #
I owe Buckeye a fizzy beverage or a bloody stump or something.
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04.12.08 - 10:52 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
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04.12.08 - 10:53 pm | #
Try as I might to resist it sucks me in every time.
Monica_A: Dammit!
The version with the Queen soundtrack? Me too.
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 10:53 pm | #
Just that the network is broadcasting Chamber of Secrets and I've seen it like three or four times.
I confess to spending a great deal of the day watching all 3 LOTR movies on TNT for about the 37 millionth time.
Toonscribe | 04.12.08 - 10:50 pm |
I have the extended versions of all three, I can no longer imagine watching any other version, especially one with commercials.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 10:54 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
But what will you do if you have a toilet paper emergency?
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04.12.08 - 10:54 pm | #
Kessler says Buckley's The Unmaking of a Mayor is one of the out of print classics. Kessler says he sees the need for a Buckley summa.
weev |
04.12.08 - 10:55 pm | #
I owe Buckeye a fizzy beverage or a bloody stump or something.
Mr French | 04.12.08 - 10:52 pm
Grape Fanta, please. And thank you.
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04.12.08 - 10:55 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
WalterNeff
I'll send you mine. Barely used, like new.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 10:55 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
WalterNeff
Same here.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 10:56 pm | #
Really? Because I was in Borders a few days ago and William Buckley books were everywhere. Theodore White's; not so much.
I don't know what Buckley wrote that could be considered "classic political works", but he's all over Amazon.
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04.12.08 - 10:56 pm | #
Just got around to watching The Davinci Code. Meh. My respect for Tom Hanks, which has gone up since his comedy days in the '80s, just dropped 10 points. He read his lines like Dan Quayle read his speeches...
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04.12.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I have the extended versions of all three,
I do, too, but if they're on tv, I watch them. Same with Harry Potter and several other movies.
Also count me in as having Flash Gordon as a guilty favorite.
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04.12.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I tried reading Harry Potter. Got through the first few pages of the first book. Seemed a little Ayn Rand to me.
Roxanne | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 10:49 pm |
Bloody Stump would be a great name for a drink.
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04.12.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
But what will you do if you have a toilet paper emergency?
Henry Flower
Use old copies of the National Review.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I have the extended versions of all three, I can no longer imagine watching any other version, especially one with commercials.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
OAS chief to US Congress: no Venezuela-terrorist link
WASHINGTON (AFP) — There is no evidence linking Venezuela to terrorist groups, the head of the Organization of American States on Thursday told US lawmakers looking into last month's Colombia-Ecuador border crisis.
"You mean does Venezuela support terrorist groups? I don't think so," OAS chief Jose Miguel Insulza said during a heated exchange with Florida Representative Connie Mack, who asked if Caracas backed Colombia's FARC rebels that the US and Europe have labeled a terrorist group.
"There is no evidence, and no member country, including this one (United States) has offered the OAS such proof," Insulza added.
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
WalterNeff
What's a "college degree"?
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04.12.08 - 10:57 pm | #
WalterNeff,
Honestly, to me that is really and truly unimportant. I remember explaining to my foundry buddies (when I would explain something to them and they would go, yeah, but you went to college) that education is a great thing but as far as I know they have not put locks on the libraries nor have they forbidden the acquisition of knowledge.
It is great to have been in a position that I was in my entire life but does it make me better or smarter? Hell no. It just makes me more privileged and I understand that.
But the world is there and if you want to, you can learn as much as you want or as little I suppose.
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04.12.08 - 10:57 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
WalterNeff
Same here.
Terry C, Obama 08
I have some extras. You can have one of mine.
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04.12.08 - 10:57 pm | #
Kessler says jack is boring.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 10:57 pm | #
There's no need to apologize for not having a college degree. Overall educational results, even among Ivy League graduates, are wildly variable. The truth of the matter is all intelligent people always feel their education inadequate.
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04.12.08 - 10:57 pm | #
Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican candidate John McCain kept the heat on the Illinois senator for his comments that small-town residents were bitter over job losses and turned in frustration to religion, guns and anti-immigrant sentiments.
what is this shit? Have we lost it all?
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04.12.08 - 10:58 pm | #
Use old copies of the National Review.
I hadn't thought of that.
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04.12.08 - 10:58 pm | #
Kessler says Buckley's The Unmaking of a Mayor is one of the out of print classics. Kessler says he sees the need for a Buckley summa.
I don't know about that. I think anyone who'd be interested in reading that could afford to outlay $135 for a used copy.
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04.12.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Kessler says jack is boring.
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On that point, we are in agreement.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.12.08 - 10:59 pm | #
I left the University of Otago with one term to go. Missed it by that much.
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04.12.08 - 10:59 pm | #
I have the extended versions of all three, I can no longer imagine watching any other version, especially one with commercials.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
Can't even watch the original theatrical versions anymore. Well, I will, I'll just feel like I'm missing something.
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04.12.08 - 10:59 pm | #
The truth of the matter is all intelligent people always feel their education inadequate.
weev
M'not much fer book lernin'.
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04.12.08 - 11:00 pm | #
I'm one of the few here who does not have a college degree.
WalterNeff
that few? I know it's tilted to lawyers, but I'm an igit.
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04.12.08 - 11:00 pm | #
Just got around to watching The Davinci Code. Meh. My respect for Tom Hanks, which has gone up since his comedy days in the '80s, just dropped 10 points. He read his lines like Dan Quayle read his speeches...
Meanie-meanie, tickler person
My son (the movie nut) and I were talking about LOTR and The daVinci Code the other day. LOTR in leaving out the Raising of the Shire and DaVinci Code in having way the hell too many endings.
LOTR had a good understanding of when to end a story and DaVinci Code had no idea they kept having ending after ending until you simply did not give a shit.
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04.12.08 - 11:00 pm | #
Eagle vs. Shark? University of Otago?
You are in a very antipodean frame of mind!
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04.12.08 - 11:01 pm | #
Well, I will, I'll just feel like I'm missing something.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
I left the University of Otago with one term to go. Missed it by that much.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 10:59 pm
You can always go back (I thought you'd gotten your degree).
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04.12.08 - 11:01 pm | #
I remember reading that in some recent year, half of the ten richest people in the world were college dropouts.
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04.12.08 - 11:01 pm | #
LOTR had a good understanding of when to end a story
Are you kidding me???? I watch ROTK last night, it had 126 endings.
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04.12.08 - 11:01 pm | #
(Looks at most recent bra bill) You mean I won't need bras and those annoying feminine hygiene products anymore? Woohoo!
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04.12.08 - 11:02 pm | #
I should add, I don't think FARC is a "terrorist" group in the first place, and whether or not Venezuela chooses to support them is certainly not the business of the US.
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04.12.08 - 11:03 pm | #
LOTR had a good understanding of when to end a story
Are you kidding me???? I watch ROTK last night, it had 126 endings.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:01 pm
Still fewer than in the book.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Are you kidding me???? I watch ROTK last night, it had 126 endings.
But, the best ending was, "...you bow to no one."
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Hahahahahaha!
Stephen King is not only a former Republican, now he's a hardcore DFH.
Stephen King: Waterboard Jenna Bush, Have Her Decide If It's Torture
"I said something to the 'Nightline' guy about waterboarding, and if the Bush administration didn't think it was torture, they ought to do some personal investigation," King recounted to Time. "Someone in the Bush family should actually be waterboarded so they could report on it to George."
"I said, I didn't think he would do it, but I suggested Jenna be waterboarded and then she could talk about whether or not she thought it was torture," King continued.
Its always been the case that smart, motivated people can be successful without a degree. Conversely, no amount of higher education can turn a fucking idiot into Einstein. Case in point: GWB.
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04.12.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Are you kidding me???? I watch ROTK last night, it had 126 endings.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
Not to me. When the ring was destroyed was the end of the battle scene. The rest was just the after-word.
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04.12.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Going to college is a financial decision for most people and depends on both the money to fund it and on the return to a college education. In my own case I didn't really ever think of not going, because there were very few ways for women to earn a salary one could feed a family with, other than through a college degree. And I wanted to study something where I could do that on my own if necessary.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 11:04 pm | #
I left school with a friend to watch our mates compete in Montreal. Watch John's last lap
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04.12.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Buckeye, lil somethin for you and all your sisters in bondage (not THAT bondage!):
Are you kidding me???? I watch ROTK last night, it had 126 endings.
But, the best ending was, "...you bow to no one."
Damn, I loved that one, and wished they'd stopped it right there. alas.
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican candidate John McCain kept the heat on the Illinois senator for his comments that small-town residents were bitter over job losses and turned in frustration to religion, guns and anti-immigrant sentiments.
what is this shit? Have we lost it all?
richpointyboy
When she decided to stand shoulder to shoulder with McStain, she lost my support.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Are you kidding me???? I watch ROTK last night, it had 126 endings.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray
Not to me. When the ring was destroyed was the end of the battle scene. The rest was just the after-word.
DWD | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:03 pm
I think that's how I view it. The End is the destruction of the ring, everything else-all 45 minutes or so-is just epilogue.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 11:07 pm | #
The one value of a college degree is that it opens doors that might not otherwise be open. What you do after the door is open is up to you.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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04.12.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Damn, I loved that one, and wished they'd stopped it right there. alas.
I think you needed the other stuff to decompress after all the time you've spent with the characters.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 11:08 pm | #
btw - on the flip side, I went to university for free
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04.12.08 - 11:08 pm | #
I left school with a friend to watch our mates compete in Montreal. Watch John's last lap
Someday, when I finally make it to New Zealand -- and I WILL -- you'll have to tell me all the cool places to see that aren't in the guidebooks.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 11:09 pm | #
M'not much fer book lernin'. Duane V Sorry to hear that Duane. It's never too late to start.
weev |
04.12.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Jobs in my business are about one thing: the portfolio
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04.12.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Hillary Clinton needs a shrink.
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04.12.08 - 11:09 pm | #
I think that's how I view it. The End is the destruction of the ring, everything else-all 45 minutes or so-is just epilogue.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
Again, same here. It feels like someone turned the page and wrote "epilogue".
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican candidate John McCain kept the heat on the Illinois senator for his comments that small-town residents were bitter over job losses and turned in frustration to religion, guns and anti-immigrant sentiments.
This is how they do it. It is now "elitist" to notice that people are actually a little pissed off in the heartland. It's "jest folks" to not give a flying fuck about people losing their house or having no health care or seeing their town fall apart after after the only factory closes. Fuckity fucking fuckers!
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:10 pm | #
I left school with a friend to watch our mates compete in Montreal. Watch John's last lap
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:06 pm
I probably watched that when it happened, my sisters and I watched a lot of the '76 Olympics. How'd that get to be 32 years ago?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Hillary Clinton needs a shrink.
Bobby St. Chomsky
She needs someone to remind her that she is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRAT.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:10 pm | #
694 wins the gold!
Henry Flower |
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04.12.08 - 11:11 pm | #
John has Parkinson's now and quite the bitter guy
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04.12.08 - 11:11 pm | #
Sorry to hear that Duane. It's never too late to start.
weev
Don't get me wrong. I love books, and read voraciously. But I don't think it beats experience as a teacher.
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04.12.08 - 11:11 pm | #
Its always been the case that smart, motivated people can be successful without a degree. Conversely, no amount of higher education can turn a fucking idiot into Einstein. Case in point: GWB.
The Speedette right now, at 7.5 years old, reads and writes better than many of my college sophomores. I shit you not, nor do I exaggerate. Why should she aspire to college, and why should I expect the American education system to "improve" her?
I'm not just boasting. Our system as it is makes people stupid, unless they've got opportunities outside the system.... And we live in one of the best school districts in the country.
Your mileage may vary.
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04.12.08 - 11:11 pm | #
We need to claim "elitist."
So when one of these mouthbreathers tosses it at us, we can say "Why, thank you!"
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:12 pm | #
I think you needed the other stuff to decompress after all the time you've spent with the characters.
Maybe you're right. I still love those movies, but that was the moment I actually loved the most.
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:12 pm | #
I was accepted to So. MO. State this yr. @ 57 transferring 85 hrs. into a 70 hr program. Used to program in DB3 for PC's, but am now a dinosaur, going for a info.tech./edu/tech. type program.
1Watt, Hermit |
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04.12.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Maybe you're right. I still love those movies, but that was the moment I actually loved the most.
I cry each time I see that moment.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 11:13 pm | #
When she decided to stand shoulder to shoulder with McStain, she lost my support.
Don't give me that shit about Hillary and McFascist!
Especially after what BO said about NOT ONLY Reagan, but King Bush I:
Obama on Larry King:
By the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W. Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War. That cost us 20 billion dollars. That's all it cost. It was extremely successful.
She needs someone to remind her that she is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRAT.
Terry C, Obama 08
Yes. Voters.
In fairness, they're trying their best.
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:14 pm | #
I got all weepy when he said "you bow to no one"
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04.12.08 - 11:15 pm | #
I left school with a friend to watch our mates compete in Montreal. Watch John's last lap
Someday, when I finally make it to New Zealand -- and I WILL -- you'll have to tell me all the cool places to see that aren't in the guidebooks.
SteveNS | 04.12.08 - 11:09 pm
Someday we'll have to have an EschaCon in NZ and/or Australia, for those of us who want to go there,whether just to visit or for a longer period of time.
I could spend quite a bit of time just hanging out here.
The amount of hair on those athletes astonished me. I'm used to the shaved look these days, I guess.
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04.12.08 - 11:16 pm | #
How about OBAMA acting like a fucking "Democrat" for a change? I don't hear you raging about him consistently praising 2 of the biggest war criminals this nation has produced.
Fucking hypocrite.
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04.12.08 - 11:16 pm | #
Stephen King: Waterboard Jenna Bush, Have Her Decide If It's Torture
Stephen King has serious "fuck you" money. How sweet it is.
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 11:16 pm | #
I got all weepy when he said "you bow to no one"
Yep. That's the same scene. The story is about the proles. And not about the elites.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 11:16 pm | #
I could arrange housing for an NZ Eschacon in about 5 minutes.
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04.12.08 - 11:16 pm | #
John has Parkinson's now and quite the bitter guy
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:11 pm
Good riddance to another rightwing blockhead.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:17 pm | #
Dogs are perfectly content to do nothing in life other that eat, sleep, and lick their genitals.
MP | 04.12.08 - 10:36 pm
you say that like it's a bad thing. I'm hoping yoga can help me with the last one.
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04.12.08 - 11:18 pm | #
This is how they do it. It is now "elitist" to notice that people are actually a little pissed off in the heartland. It's "jest folks" to not give a flying fuck about people losing their house or having no health care or seeing their town fall apart after after the only factory closes. Fuckity fucking fuckers!
Little Boot
Some of you here have felt the anger about this issue coming from me and I am usually fairly rational but god damn: enough is fucking enough.
It is devastating to live here, folks. When I drive to cardiac exercise, I drive down Sherman Blvd through Muskegon Heights (where my school is located) there are just shuttered factories and businesses everywhere I look. It gets to you after a while.
I come home sometimes and I just want to cry. It is wrong. These people have done nothing to deserve this. And the government has done NOTHING to help them or protect them.
And even this day the New York Times DEMANDS the ratification of another treaty sending jobs out of the country and in an offhand matter says that something should be done about the jobs that will be lost and they say this with the full knowledge that NOTHING will be done.
it is sickening.
DWD |
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04.12.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Rod Dixon, on the other hand, has carved out quite the nice career. We stay in touch.
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04.12.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Evening, late nighters and left coasters!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
04.12.08 - 11:18 pm | #
I could arrange housing for an NZ Eschacon in about 5 minutes.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:16 pm |
Great!
Now, what about funding?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Looks like the usual hate Hillary fest here. Some seem kinda bitter their most favored candidate still has to put up with the little lady.
Anyway how the regular folks do it Saturday night:
Clinton Takes a Shot of Whiskey in Northwest Indiana
ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton stopped by Bronko’s Restaurant and Lounge in Crown Point, Ind., tonight. Clinton stood by the bar and took a shot of Crown Royal whiskey. She took one sip of the shot, then another small sip, then a few seconds later threw her head back and finished off the whole thing.
Clinton later sat down at a table and enjoyed some pizza and beer, and called over Mayor Tom McDermott of Hammond, Ind., to come join the table.
"Every time I get around you we start drinking, senator," the mayor exclaimed.
In a word, yeah. That is exactly what it is. And they will Always find a way to make it not quite real. This is why the media sucks, in a nutshell.
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:21 pm | #
I'm in for the NZ Eschacon.
Just give me at least 12 months to save.
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 11:21 pm | #
They aren't exactly busting their asses over the the Clinton HQ in my building, BTW.
Gomez |
04.12.08 - 11:21 pm | #
How about OBAMA acting like a fucking "Democrat" for a change?
I don't recall Obama saying McCain would make a better president than a Democrat would.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:21 pm | #
trademark dave, actually, no
I was ranting like a crazy woman when he did that.
ErinPDX |
04.12.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Are we sure Crown Royal isn't too elitist? Maybe she should have had a shot of Fleischmanns.
Karin Hussein |
04.12.08 - 11:21 pm | #
I could arrange housing for an NZ Eschacon in about 5 minutes.
Someone here was talking about moving to NZ earlier today.
John McCain said people in small towns are "bitter" because they hate Hispanics. Somehow this was not a "gaffe."
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04.12.08 - 11:22 pm | #
I'm in for the NZ Eschacon.
Just give me at least 12 months to save.
I need about ten years to paddle there.
Echidne |
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04.12.08 - 11:22 pm | #
I had no idea that orange juice was elitist.
Gomez |
04.12.08 - 11:23 pm | #
John McCain said people in small towns are "bitter" because they hate Hispanics. Somehow this was not a "gaffe."
Thers
I hate McCain.
That definitely isn't a gaffe.
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Clinton Takes a Shot of Whiskey in Northwest Indiana
What the fuck's with you? Don't you know that's not being "Democrat" enuf? To be a REAL "Democrat", you have to FIRST praise Ronald Reagan, then, when that's not enough, you have to go on Larry King and praise King Bush I.
Once you do that, then you get praised as being a "real" Democrat by the Obama supporters.
Elias: Sans guns or religion. |
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04.12.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Evening all. Hit 75 here today, just had shrimp on the bbq with a lovely soy/sesame sauce. Mmmmmmm.
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04.12.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Oboy, here we go again...
When is that NZ Eschacon, again?
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 11:23 pm | #
I need about ten years to paddle there.
Echidne
Maybe you can reduce the time if you piggyback on the right currents.
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04.12.08 - 11:23 pm | #
John McCain said people in small towns are "bitter" because they hate Hispanics. Somehow this was not a "gaffe."
Over the years, quite a few of us have discussed running off to New Zealand.
Maybe if we pool our money and apply for political asylum...
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
04.12.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Nelson, NZ - Feb 2009: I can find housing for a week for 20-30 of you. We can be your guides. Here's Nelson - note the arrow.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray |
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04.12.08 - 11:24 pm | #
The GOP is nothing without hate,
Terry C, Obama 08 |
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04.12.08 - 11:25 pm | #
I knew some cool kiwis when I lived in Japan. They played semi-pro rugby.
Roxanne |
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04.12.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Maybe Hillary can start a bar fight. I'm starting to like this gal!
sdg |
04.12.08 - 11:25 pm | #
I don't recall Obama saying McCain would make a better president than a Democrat would.
Terry C, Obama 08
That's because she never said that, and you know it. You're lying.
Elias: Sans guns or religion. |
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04.12.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Here's Nelson - note the arrow.
That's four blocks from the beach. Don't you have anything closer? /whine
MikeJ |
04.12.08 - 11:26 pm | #
With Republicans, racism isn't a bug - it's a feature!
If not an ideal.
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:26 pm | #
LOTR had a good understanding of when to end a story and DaVinci Code had no idea they kept having ending after ending until you simply did not give a shit.
DWD
I only counted two, but admittedly by that time I wasn't paying all that much attention. I fact, I may well have missed a few...
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04.12.08 - 11:26 pm | #
I would very much like to do this!
SteveNS |
04.12.08 - 11:26 pm | #
These people have done nothing to deserve this. And the government has done NOTHING to help them or protect them.
They're poor. That's the greatest crime of all.
Bobby St. Chomsky |
04.12.08 - 11:27 pm | #
I am hereby banning all discussion of "Hillarites vs. Obamaniacs" from the next thread.
See you guys up there!!
Duane V, Bitter Classist |
04.12.08 - 11:27 pm | #
Over the years, quite a few of us have discussed running off to New Zealand.
Maybe if we pool our money and apply for political asylum...
Your country needs you, seriously.
Little Boots |
04.12.08 - 11:27 pm | #
"Anyway how the regular folks do it Saturday night:
So we're not "regular folks", hadenough?
Terry C, Obama 08"
Depends on you do it on a Saturday night. [Little touchy aren't we]
hadenough |
04.12.08 - 11:28 pm | #
So we're not "regular folks", hadenough?
Terry C, Obama 08
Actually, to be honest, non of us are regular folks. If regular folks are people who don't sit and blog for hour on end.
Elias: Sans guns or religion. |
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04.12.08 - 11:28 pm | #
Hi, Sallyh.
Was it hot enough for you today. Low to mid 90s here in the western end of the Valley today -- and I went on a 5 km run/walk-athon with my kids this morning. At least it was still cool when we started.
Toonscribe |
04.12.08 - 11:28 pm | #
Toons, I loved it. It was beautiful. But I like it hot.
Dropped the "Monopsony" from my nym, even tho it's an old family name, from my mysterious supposed great-grandfather Krztzt Monopsony... he was ethnic.... Supposedly descended from the bastard king Adelphonsis of Spain, who was good to everybody, but especially loved the Muslims for their music and spicy cooking.
But only your great-grandmother knows for sure who your great-grandfather was. And she's dead.
Peace.
--Speedy
(Responds happily to praise.)
Speedy del Saxo |
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04.12.08 - 11:34 pm | #
speedy, see you upstairs
ErinPDX |
04.12.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Actually, to be honest, non of us are regular folks. If regular folks are people who don't sit and blog for hour on end.
Elias