I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarI'm First!!!


Gravatar{{{sob}}}


GravatarGo Al! I want to see O'Reilly's head explode when he says "Sen. Franken!"


GravatarSuck. On. THAT.


GravatarDamn.


Yeah, I'll settled for BillO's head exploding.


GravatarSuck on it, T-Paw!

Oh, and you too, Nahm!!


Gravatar"SugarDaddyForMe.com"? That'll go over big here.

[laughing]


GravatarWhen it is revealed that we have known about Aliens for 61 years will their be any change in the lives of most humans?
spocko


Do wha?


GravatarWow, too cool! Excellent news to read after a mostly shitty day.


GravatarI remember when Bill O'Reilly said that if the US didn't find any weapons of mass destruction after our invasion, he would shoot himself in the temple with a Glock, or something like that.


GravatarWanna Fresca for that, dave™©?


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Yeah, I'll settled for BillO's head exploding.


Just wait for him stuttering, trying to get "Senator" out... "S-s-s-se-se-sen-sen-sen... fuck it."


GravatarMore of the Bush "Legacy".

From the WP
The Bush administration appears poised to push through a change in U.S. Forest Service agreements that would make it far easier for mountain forests to be converted to housing subdivisions.


GravatarRats, I was hoping I was the only one getting the Sugar Daddy ad... competition in that field would adversely affect my chances at a 'successful' match...


GravatarThe Bush administration appears poised to push through a change in U.S. Forest Service agreements that would make it far easier for mountain forests to be converted to housing subdivisions.

That George, always looking out for the environment.


GravatarPoor Sen Cornyn...


GravatarYou Middle Country people take this so seriously.  Hell, I remember having SI Hayakawa as a Senator.  John Tunney.  GEORGE MURPHY for crying out loud.  Al Franken?  C'mon.


Gravatarcompetition in that field would adversely affect my chances at a 'successful' match...
nick carraway


Have at it, my man. No competition from me!


GravatarAnd a high and mighty FUCK YOU to the NRSC for running one of the fucking sleziest campaigns in history.


GravatarI remember when Bill O'Reilly said that if the US didn't find any weapons of mass destruction after our invasion, he would shoot himself in the temple with a Glock, or something like that.
MP |


I recall Sean Hannity saying keeping Nancy Pelosi from becoming Speaker of the House was worth dying for.
I suggested Pelosi promise she wouldn't if Hannity would shoot himself in the head on the air!
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GravatarPoor Sen Cornyn...
NTodd, Trollson


Yes, he might actually have to eat shit and die.


GravatarHeh heh heh.
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GravatarColeman folks at presser: We are prepared to move forward and remedy this lead...it doesn't alter our view that the race will be called for Coleman.

(paraphrased)


GravatarMay I recommend these apple turnovers I've just put into the oven?  It's really the way to go for pie, when there's not enough people to eat a whole pie, timely.


GravatarFive doller footlongs!
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GravatarColeman folks at presser: We are prepared to move forward and remedy this lead...it doesn't alter our view that the race will be called for Coleman.

Guessing Coleman hasn't made that call yet congratulating Franken.


GravatarI recall Sean Hannity saying keeping Nancy Pelosi from becoming Speaker of the House was worth dying for.

What was Hannity worried about. She's been a much more effective handmaiden to the Bush White House policy that any Republican running for office was willing to be.


GravatarSupreme Commander Thor: thanks!

it wouldn't take long for me to be found out, though... bummer, that.

on the other hand, they're most likely Republicans anyway.


GravatarWhen it is revealed that we have known about Aliens for 61 years will their be any change in the lives of most humans?
spocko


Don't aliens still have to register at their local post office every January?
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GravatarGuessing Coleman hasn't made that call yet congratulating Franken.

I'd suggest that Franken not hold his breath.


GravatarWhen it is revealed that we have known about Aliens for 61 years will their be any change in the lives of most humans?
spocko

Don't aliens still have to register at their local post office every January?


They file telepathically. Cuts down on standing in line all the time.


GravatarThe Bush administration appears poised to push through a change in U.S. Forest Service agreements that would make it far easier for mountain forests to be converted to housing subdivisions.

Because there's so much demand for second houses out in the woods.


GravatarCornyn is one of the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.


Gravatarthis is incredible.

i've been thinking i wanted that new 5D now i know.

it's all out of my league, but damn.


GravatarTD Atlanta, lots of time, one score game.


GravatarHappy New Year, bats.


GravatarGo Al! I want to see O'Reilly's head explode when he says "Sen. Franken!"

Forget that. I wanna see Rush Limbaugh explode!

Oh wait, he already did.


GravatarHow much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?


GravatarHappy New Year, Echidne.  May your socks be whole and warm, your soup and your woodbox always be replenished and your kine and kith happy and content.


GravatarGood for Al for staying in and fighting, And fuck the thousand or so liberals who should have shown up to vote, but didn't.


GravatarForget that. I wanna see Rush Limbaugh explode!

That's going to require a Superfund cleanup if it happens.


GravatarHow much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?

Soros sends him about $70K/mo.
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GravatarThat's going to require a Superfund cleanup if it happens.
Supreme Commander Thor


Of a three-state area.


GravatarHappy New Year, Echidne.

Looks like I got back from dinner at the right time. Colemans lawyers are on the live feed now.


GravatarHow much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?

I imagine that's Atrios' business.


GravatarSay it.

Senator Al Franken!


Gravatarboatloads of money.

he's a genius.


Gravatar, Echidne.

There are rumblings that I may have a new Senator.


GravatarLooks like I got back from dinner at the right time. Colemans lawyers are on the live feed now, lying their asses off


Gravatarthis is incredible.


Jeez - Oh! I'll say.
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GravatarHow much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?
vise


Probably quite a bit, thanks to viewers like you!


GravatarI imagine that's Atrios' business.

ACtually, it's the public's business. As is what every other citizen makes.


GravatarVise, how much do you make a year from your meth deals?


GravatarComment by vise blocked.

Just.Do.It.


GravatarACtually, it's the public's business. As is what every other citizen makes.
vise


er, no.


GravatarD'oh:

Looks like I got back from dinner at the right time. Colemans lawyers are on the live feed now, lying their asses off.
aangus: This space for hire.


Gravatar{{{aangus!!!}}}

{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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GravatarACtually, it's the public's business. As is what every other citizen makes.

Actually, no, that's not the public's business.


GravatarHow much $ does Atrios make?

Oh, probably more than you make squeezing things....


GravatarIt's fucked up that Karl Rove got Dems thinking they have to run to the right of Rethugs in order to get any street cred.


GravatarACtually, it's the public's business. As is what every other citizen makes.

Not really.


GravatarACtually, it's the public's business. As is what every other citizen makes.

You mean, like the various Wall Street brokers and players?


GravatarHBK, I put Cornyn in the "too stupid to breathe on his own" category.

Norm Coleman's up there, and Jim Bunting, and probably numerous others not mentioned here


GravatarJeez - Oh! I'll say.
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It's just me again!

i thought the vid function would just be a crappy little add on.

the camera is only 2700, it's a freak'n steal.


Gravatar{{{{Sallyh}}}}

Frickin' cold here in Mo-ray-all!


GravatarHecate - did you see my request that your landscaper include a rill in your plans?  You'd like a rill.  Miss Thing would like one.  Even the bunnies would like one.


GravatarC U R L Y !
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GravatarI like the idea of Franken being a Senator than that guy who played Cooter.


GravatarSounds like a landslide after the miniscule numbers we've been hearing about.


GravatarHappy new year Echidne.


GravatarThe past eight years, the Republicans in Congress were rapacious, and the Dems, by and large, were absolutely spineless.

Chimpy could *not* have gotten away with his hijinks otherwise.

Alberto Gonzales had *no* business being confirmed as AG.


Gravatari'll never be able to find it amongst all my myriad booklinks but somewhere in here i have a listing of the most popular blogs and their ad rates.

atrios wasn't no. 1 but he's doing ok.

well enuf to buy a decent camera, that's what counts.


GravatarOhh free government money!?!?!?



i want some.


GravatarEvening, good people.

What a lovely post to rise from a nap to.


GravatarI think we need more adds in the middle of the blog. : )


Gravatar

Everybody keep warm and nice this winter.


GravatarAtrios makes 7 quadraloons a year.


GravatarHey, instead of a Fresca, can I get a Cactus Cooler?


GravatarEverybody keep warm and nice this winter.

And keep ur woodbox full!


Gravatar"That's SENATOR Franken, numbnuts Coleman!"


GravatarOhh free government money!?!?!?



i want some.
R2K |


The Snorgtee girls are visiting me at the moment.
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Gravatar"Get fifty thousand dollars just for opening a coffee shop!!!!!!"


GravatarDiane, indeed it is.

So far, 2009 is shaping up rather nicely.


GravatarI think we need more adds in the middle of the blog. : )
R2K


Or just more blogwhoring to ridiculously long posts about Happy New Year!

(My good mood compels me to be honest!)


GravatarHey Atriots,

I just watched Kit Kitredge, American Girl and believe it or not, its a nice movie to teach your kids a bit about the Great Depression. Even my 10 and 13 year old boys enjoyed it.

It is not a product placement ad at all.

One thing in it that struck my attention was the bank that forecloses on one of the houses is "Liberal Savings and Loan". It does appear that such an institution existed according to the Google.

There are a few school mates in the movie that really stick out like nasty Republicans. My kids recognized a few of their right wing friends in the movie.


GravatarAnd keep ur woodbox full!

Yup. I haz apple wood from a tree that died. It scents up the whole room.


GravatarREDBIRDS WIN!

Go on, go on...
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GravatarEverybody keep warm and nice this winter.

Now you tell me. Too late.


GravatarEverybody keep warm and nice this winter.

Got up to 81 today, so thanks, I'm fine.

You can leave the wood in the forest for me.


Gravatartrifecta, how does that work out in quatloos?


GravatarIs it too soon to be tired of being cold?


GravatarAt least Bush is helping to raise money for the arts:

http://www.dailytidings.com/ 2009...03_navickas.php


GravatarEverybody keep warm and nice this winter.

Got up to 81 today, so thanks, I'm fine.


81 what?
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GravatarNot really.

Explain. Which ammendment to the constitution makes that possible and how would it be different under socialism? And if you're sympathetic to socialism, and in fact believe in the notion of a larger public commons and sphere, and if that belief is based on what you believe the economic reality about the world is, then why should property be married to privacy?

And if your belief(that what he makes is private) is based on a constitutional protection, wouldn't that same protection limit the very scope of any future socialism in America.


GravatarI have an additional suggestion for making Bill O'Reilly's head asplode:

reinstate diplomatic and commercial ties with Cuba.

Mmmmm...

Splody heads all over the place.


GravatarBluto W Bush | 01.03.09 - 7:43 pm | #

Blast from the past.


GravatarGO, CHARGERS!

(naw, I don't care)
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GravatarGWPDA

Oh, my yard's too little for rill. And Miss Thing isn't allowed outside. We are getting ready to tear up the concrete walk and put in nice, big, flat stones, though.


GravatarGot up to 81 today, so thanks, I'm fine.

You can leave the wood in the forest for me.


I spent the week in a house with temperature set at 60 degrees...


GravatarGreat to have a senator who isn't afraid to call a liar a liar.


GravatarWho is vise?


Gravatar Which ammendment to the constitution makes that possible and how would it be different under socialism? And if you're sympathetic to socialism, and in fact believe in the notion of a larger public commons and sphere, and if that belief is based on what you believe the economic reality about the world is, then why should property be married to privacy?

And if your belief(that what he makes is private) is based on a constitutional protection, wouldn't that same protection limit the very scope of any future socialism in America.
vise


I am Arthur, King of the Britons.


GravatarIs it too soon to be tired of being cold?

NO!


Gravatar: O)


Gravatar81 what?
.
It's just me again!


American! Of course!

I spent the week in a house with temperature set at 60 degrees...
Echidne


That would require switching to A/C.

Normally I keep the heat set at 60, though.


GravatarIs it too soon to be tired of being cold?
res ipsa loquitur


If it gets much colder here, I'm gonna build a fire in teh fireplace.


GravatarWhich ammendment to the constitution makes that possible and how would it be different under socialism?

Makes what possible? Knowing what Atrios makes? None of them. Not even the 16th.


GravatarI am Arthur, King of the Britons.

Hah! I knew it!


GravatarGeez... I can't go lower than 66°F (what it's on, now).
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Gravatarand if that belief is based on what you believe the economic reality about the world is, then why should property be married to privacy?

I didn't even know they were dating!


GravatarRMJ, it's been in the 30s at night here in the Southland.

Which is, by L.A. standards, too cold for living things.


GravatarMP, Where?


GravatarNormally I keep the heat set at 60, though.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist


Does it ever get down to 60 in Houston?


GravatarWe had a really long summer, so I am thankful for winter. We basically went Winter, 3 weeks of spring, then summer this year. Hit the 90's in early May.


GravatarSallyh, are you home from your transcontinental wanderings?


GravatarIf it gets much colder here, I'm gonna build a fire in teh fireplace.

I have a new fireplace screen on order. As soon as it comes, I'm going to make a fire in the fireplace.


GravatarMakes what possible? Knowing what Atrios makes? None of them. Not even the 16th.

It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.


GravatarMP, Where?
res ipsa loquitur


Va Beach. Upper 30's. No kind of weather for my Speedo.


GravatarPenumbra. It's a penumbra.


GravatarI think someone put vise's head in a vise.


GravatarIt's so cold, my olive oil is frozen. However cold that is.


GravatarDoes it ever get down to 60 in Houston?
Adam Hominem


Mid-60's is the average high for this time of year.

I have a photo of my house (by a previous owner) blanketed in snow. And know older people (in their 80's-90's) who remember snow as a regular winter feature.


GravatarIt's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne | Homepage




GravatarI believe a celebratory cocktail is in order here at Chez Rowsdower, or what ever the hell you wanna call it.


GravatarIt's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne


I don't tell people what I make, because they either laugh, or show pity.


GravatarI think Atrios should release his tax returns after Cindy McCain releases hers. And he's running for office.


GravatarSomeone toss a match into the Straw Man. We need the warmth, and we don't need him.


GravatarIt's so cold, my olive oil is frozen.

No flirting!


GravatarAnd know older people (in their 80's-90's) who remember snow as a regular winter feature.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist


I had no idea.


GravatarI believe a celebratory cocktail is in order here at Chez Rowsdower, or what ever the hell you wanna call it.

Good news???


GravatarI don't tell people what I make, because they either laugh, or show pity.

True dat. You could always lie.


GravatarIt's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.

My response to that is, less than those in my department who just happen to have dicks.


GravatarPenumbra. It's a penumbra.

Tell that to Scalia and Roberts! I'm pretty sure they hate Griswold as much as Roe...


GravatarI believe a celebratory cocktail is in order here at Chez Rowsdower, or what ever the hell you wanna call it.
AndyMN


We all deserve one. Or at least a big sigh of relief.

But maybe that should wait till the vote total is certified.


GravatarGood news???

Senator Franken!

(not the other kind of good news, but light a candle)


GravatarIt's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.

In NY, people will volunteer that...
(a) They see a shrink
(b) How much they paid for their apartment
(c) In what position they prefer to screw their SO
(d) What, if any, STDs they have

But if you ask them how much money they make, they freak the fuck out.


GravatarIt's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.

Part of our "classless" fiction. If I don't know how much you make, we can assume we're equals (all other things being equal).


Gravatar but light a candle

Will do so right now.


GravatarYou can't make this stuff up.

"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."

President's Radio Address, 1/2/09


GravatarAnd know older people (in their 80's-90's) who remember snow as a regular winter feature.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist


I bought a book of old pictures (1890-1920) of Norfolk recently.

They used to skate on the Elizabeth River back then.

Good luck doing that now.


GravatarAmanda Marcotte, via FB:

Announcer on NFL game: "Pat Tillman is what we hope players can be." Me: "Murdered by their fellow Americans?"


GravatarI make $900,000 a year! Non profits pay really well for case workers!


GravatarIt's so cold, my olive oil is frozen.


Believe it or not there IS an MSDS (Materials Safety Data Sheet) for Olive Oil.

Melting Point -6 C , 21 F
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GravatarIf I don't know how much you make, we can assume we're equals (all other things being equal).
NTodd, Trollson


I make no such assumption.


Gravatar

see, trifecta? That's how you do it.

I make about a thousand from my blog. It costs about two thousand to run.


GravatarI make $900,000 a year!

That's a tidy sum.


GravatarMelting Point -6 C

There you go, that's how cold it is.


GravatarWhen I was a kid, I asked an adult what he made an hour. He told me "none of your business".

Once bitten, etc.


Gravatarfor RMJ, a time to be born, a time to die...


GravatarColeman: No class!


GravatarThere you go, that's how cold it is.

Slice some cream for your coffee.


GravatarThe big run-up in commodities (both ends, product & input) the last year or so meant I handled a ton of money, in one hand and out the other in a blur... but the bottom line wasn't much different.


GravatarThey will also tell you what all their neighbors paid for their apartments, the current market value of those apartments, and how badly the neighbor will get screwed when they have to sell.


GravatarIf someone asks how much you make, be sure to include health insurance and pension benefits for people who used to work for your company who retired years ago.


GravatarThat's so cold, it makes my nutsack shrink just reading it.


GravatarIf someone asks how much you make, be sure to include health insurance and pension benefits for people who used to work for your company who retired years ago.
Culture of TrÜth


Heh.


GravatarWhen the fire is going, we kind of huddle around the fire, and the rest of the house gets sorta cold. I had no idea it was *that* cold, however.


GravatarSince Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007

Those fucking ballots of mass destruction...


GravatarI make $900,000 a year! Non profits pay really well for case workers!
trifecta |


$74 an hour.


GravatarAs cold as the dark Winter gets, every April I spring forth as a brand new, refreshed middle-aged man.


GravatarAs cold as the dark Winter gets, every April I spring forth as a brand new, refreshed middle-aged man.

You peel off the vests and the thermal underwear and the long johns and the crust of the winter....


GravatarMP, and we wouldn't want you any other way


GravatarPart of our "classless" fiction. If I don't know how much you make, we can assume we're equals (all other things being equal).
NTodd, Trollson

i remember when i photographed this girl. she was from switzerland, i couldn't swear to it, but i think she had money, she seemed a little astounded how obvious our class distinctions were.


Gravatar"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."

"Since the Republican illegal takeover of the White House, the US spends $600 billion a year on 'defense' while 45 million Americans have no health insurance.
George Bush has demonstrated that he has no intention of serving the American people."
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Gravatar$ what ever, trucker
If you make like more than 150k a year, you are the problem.
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GravatarAt least the football commentators didn't disappear Pat Tillman. Someone can google him and find out the truth, or as much of it as we can get. Damn, I wish he wasn't dead. We really needed his testimony. Plus, he wouldn't be dead.


GravatarMaybe my celebration was premature. From the Strib:

Under state law, an election certificate formally naming a winner cannot be issued until all legal disputes are resolved.


Gravatar Sallyh, I received a letter addressed to "RESIDENT" informing me that the US Public Health Services, Office of Applied Science, had randomly selected my address for a survey to be taken for Research Triangle Institute "Project 2009". We will be given $30 cash if we answer the questions.

I googled and found one of the signed names in the RTI site.

This just seems weird. Thoughts?


GravatarThe Uptake is such a cool site.

I might have to visit Minnesota.


GravatarId BORes haid splodes will anything fly out?


GravatarUnder state law, an election certificate formally naming a winner cannot be issued until all legal disputes are resolved.

So we could get lots of people to sue over the election and keep all votes unresolved forever? Clearly there's some limitation...


Gravatartheir is a whole new al thread.

that's how atrios does it.


Gravatar"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."

Wunnerful, George. Another example of your brain in action.

Gee, no mention that Israel is still collecting taxes for Palestinians, and that they've been withholding most of those taxes ever since Hamas won the election--and has been trying their damnedest to prevent international aid organizations and other countries from providing aid or loans.

A little truth would go a long way.


GravatarI make near the maximum amount of money that I can keep track of.


GravatarRight now I'm making two things: Jack and shit. And Jack left town.


GravatarC'mon by, HBK!

NTodd,

It specifically has to be called an "election contest". If it's not, than the SoS can certify. Not sure if that's even the legal distinction...just glossing over the Strib article.


GravatarI honestly don't know how much I make.


GravatarSallyh, I received a letter addressed to "RESIDENT" informing me that the US Public Health Services, Office of Applied Science, had randomly selected my address for a survey to be taken for Research Triangle Institute "Project 2009". We will be given $30 cash if we answer the questions.

I googled and found one of the signed names in the RTI site.

This just seems weird. Thoughts?

Deacon Blues

i had a woman come to my door, same organization, "thanks, but no thanks", then they mailed me a letter, then she came again, same answer, then they called me... same answer.

the letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?


GravatarIt specifically has to be called an "election contest". If it's not, than the SoS can certify.

Ah, so Norm will have to contest the results of the election officially?


GravatarIt's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #


As a perfesser at Piss-Ant U, my salary actually is public record. Finding the copy of the salaries is a bit of a trick, but it's available.


GravatarOur salaries are automatically deposited, and our recurrent bills are automatically paid, and my wife and I can punch numbers into an ATM, and cash comes out.

Life is good.


GravatarThis could have happened in the new democracy of Iraq if we didn't control the free press.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...nge- deaths.html
The bodies of a senior Hamas leader's small children were today ghoulishly paraded through the streets of Gaza as the group pledged to avenge their deaths.

Nizar Rayan, his four wives and 10 of his children were all killed by in an Israeli air strike on his home after he ignored warnings they should go into hiding.

In grisly scenes, mourners held up the bloodied bodies of the children to the cameras in a clear attempt to blacken Israel's name and highlight its brutality.


GravatarDeacon, I'm not familiar with the survey, but it's entirely possible that you were randomly selected. Payment of a modest nature is not uncommon.

I will have to check out Project 2009.


Gravatar"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."

"Roads". The Israelis use US tax dollars to build roads that only Israelis are allowed to drive on.

"Schools" The 'American School' in Gaza was leveled by Israeli artillery.
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GravatarAh, so Norm will have to contest the results of the election officially?

That's how it's sounding.

The MN Supreme Court has ruled against him on every challenge, thus far. Pretty much spitting in the wind, at this point.


Gravatarthe letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?
charley


This letter wasn't that forthcoming, just saying it is conducting a study on "health-related issues"

Rather Big-brotherishly entitled "RTI Project No. 9009" (which I did not find with teh Google).


GravatarMaybe my celebration was premature. From the Strib:

Under state law, an election certificate formally naming a winner cannot be issued until all legal disputes are resolved.


Coleman has an emergency petition pending. Now, if the court were to make a decision before Monday morning, or early Monday morning, and Coleman's petition did not prevail, there would be no suits pending.

Coleman's only hope at this point is to have something ready the moment his petition is denied, before the results can be certified. I doubt seriously that either the election board or the courts will have much patience with future last-ditch efforts by Coleman to delay the inevitable.

Now, it's a matter of timing.


GravatarHas Bill O'reilly dropped dead yet?


GravatarThe MN Supreme Court has ruled against him on every challenge, thus far. Pretty much spitting in the wind, at this point.
AndyMN | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 8:10 pm | #


I hope he escalates to pissing into the wind.


GravatarDinner! Back later.


GravatarRummy | 01.03.09 - 8:09 pm


Chripes, talk about one-sided reports.


GravatarAh, so Norm will have to contest the results of the election officially?

That's how it's sounding.


Norm Coleman, Sniveling Loser.

Like school in the summertime Norm. No class.


GravatarDeacon, let me do some legwork on it before you get involved.


GravatarI remember when Bill O'Reilly said that if the US didn't find any weapons of mass destruction after our invasion, he would shoot himself in the temple with a Glock, or something like that.
MP

There was no shortage of people who would have gladly done it for him.


GravatarBreaking: Coleman files suit with request to "turn those machines back on."


Gravatarsenator al franken.

there's hope for colbert yet.


GravatarEveryone is forgetting that John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell will make Harry Reid cry.


GravatarI will have to check out Project 2009.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere

Thanks. It seemed strange to me that they would pay *cash* for interviews.


Gravatar
Coleman's only hope at this point is to have something ready the moment his petition is denied, before the results can be certified. I doubt seriously that either the election board or the courts will have much patience with future last-ditch efforts by Coleman to delay the inevitable.


The court hasn't even indicated that they'll hear his latest gripe. They (Coleman's folks) wanted to stop the counting today because of that.


Gravatari had a woman come to my door, same organization, "thanks, but no thanks", then they mailed me a letter, then she came again, same answer, then they called me... same answer.

the letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?


It's a tricky problem to study, because it's important that the people who refuse to participate in a study are not different from those who agree to participate. If they are then the study may not be applicable to everybody (you want the sample to be representative of the universe). So researchers often go to extreme lengths to try to persuade refusers to take part or to establish if they otherwise look like those who don't refuse. But I can see that it's annoying.


GravatarHas Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?


GravatarNorm Coleman, Sniveling Loser.

I'm sorry, the AP style manual allows "sniveling loser" to be used only when referring to Democrats.

In the future, please refer to Republicans as "Heroic Manly Men."


GravatarIn the future, please refer to Republicans as "Heroic Manly Men."
mto3


Fuck that - they're whiney ass titty babies.


GravatarHas Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?

I think Harry's going to give him a BJ on the way out of the office. For all the good work Norm's done.


GravatarHas Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker


He has to OK it with Lieberman first.


GravatarCSpan 3 - some wingnut conference from 2007. Sounds like all the assholes are there.


GravatarStrib:

The Franken campaign, Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and various county officials filed responses with the Supreme Court by Saturday morning, with Franken, Ritchie and Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman all arguing forcefully against the Coleman petition. They said the process for identifying wrongly rejected absentee ballots had worked as intended and should be completed.

The Franken brief argued that the Coleman campaign had missed deadlines to request reconsideration of additional ballots, and added that all rejected absentee ballots have now been reviewed at least twice by local officials.

But it appeared that the rules for handling added ballots were understood and applied differently from one county to another. While officials in Hennepin, Ramsey and Rice counties said they had refused to consider additional ballots, officials in Anoka and Pipestone counties said they had done so, even without agreement from the campaigns.


GravatarEveryone is forgetting that John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell will make Harry Reid cry.



They made Harry promise that he wouldn't seat that nasty Senator from Illinois...


GravatarNizar Rayan, his four wives and 10 of his children were all killed by in an Israeli air strike on his home after he ignored warnings they should go into hiding.



It's called "Blaming the Victim(s)"


GravatarDeacon, that's not the odd part to me.


GravatarHas Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker


Right after his Stevens standing ovation as he triumphantly leaves the Senate chambers.


GravatarHas Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?

I think Harry's going to give him a BJ on the way out of the office. For all the good work Norm's done.
Supreme Commander Thor


Give 'em Head, Harry!


GravatarThanks. It seemed strange to me that they would pay *cash* for interviews.

Not unknown. I was asked to participate in a survey paid for by a drug company, regarding health care use and access. Paid me $30, because it took almost two hours to go through the questionnaire by phone.

They got an earful, and I got $30.


GravatarDon't aliens still have to register at their local post office every January?
.


The local post office just beamed mine in. Should arrive in about 2 million years.


Gravatarthe letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?

It's a tricky problem to study, because it's important that the people who refuse to participate in a study are not different from those who agree to participate. If they are then the study may not be applicable to everybody (you want the sample to be representative of the universe). So researchers often go to extreme lengths to try to persuade refusers to take part or to establish if they otherwise look like those who don't refuse. But I can see that it's annoying.
Echidne


Well, I'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to tell an agent of the federal government about any extra-legal drug use. I don't need $30 that bad. Either that or I just say, no ma'am, never touched em, and get the money.


GravatarI am Arthur, King of the Britons.

Well, yeah.  What did you think?


GravatarIt's called "Blaming the Victim(s)"
Terry C - Forever Dateless


Or, Terrorism!


GravatarStartribune says it's over.

http://www.startribune.com/polit...e/ 37047159.html


Gravatar"Must be a king."

"How can you tell?"

"Well, he hasn't got shit all over him."


GravatarI think all these crazy surveys people are getting these days are somehow tied into Ross Perot.


GravatarIt's a tricky problem to study, because it's important that the people who refuse to participate in a study are not different from those who agree to participate.
Echidne

without your expertise, i pretty much understood that.

but i have a federal job, no way i'm answering those kind of questions. and the woman did not reveal what the questions would be about my drug usage on the first go around.

and while i'd like to make 30 dollars an hour for talking about me, you're going to have to give me a lot more than an hour.

i don't know how you could set this up without bias. tricky.


GravatarIs this an indication we're going to start up another drug usage thread?


GravatarIs this an indication we're going to start up another drug usage thread?
Supreme Commander Thor


I'm still crashing from last night's LSD.


GravatarHas Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker

He has to OK it with Lieberman first.
MP



I hear Joe Lieberman wrote a sternly - worded letter advising Harry Reid of his options regarding Bloggy's Senatorial Appointee...


GravatarI am Arthur, King of the Britons.

King of the who?


GravatarSupreme Commander!

Not that that would be a bad thing


GravatarSallyH, have finished off that NY Cheesecake yet?

Its been, what, 36 hours?

Never in human history has a cheesecake lasted that long.

Also, I just recalled I owe you a small stack of DVDs with all sorts of BBC/British programs about medieval history.


GravatarAnd if your belief(that what he makes is private) is based on a constitutional protection, wouldn't that same protection limit the very scope of any future socialism in America.
vise


No, idjit-boy.

Look up the difference between "private property" and "personal property" in Marxism.


GravatarColeman has to fight this to the death because he's going to be about as employable as Abu G. when it's all over.


GravatarI put Cornyn in the "too stupid to breathe on his own" category.

Norm Coleman's up there, and Jim Bunting, and probably numerous others not mentioned here
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


Imhofe
Coburn
Sessions
O'Connell


Gravatar"Well, he hasn't got shit all over him."
M31

"Kiss the hem of my raiment!"


GravatarNot that that would be a bad thing
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


Not at all. It brought back a lot of memories.

Mostly foggy.


GravatarIsn't Coleman in the middle of some corruption scandal anyway? You'd think the GOPers would want him to go away.


Gravatar{{{Chris}}}

Oh, that cheesecake was gone within minutes of purchase.

And thank you so much for getting Maddy a gift--it really has made my holiday.

I've had this irrational fear as of late; my da passed on at 54. I'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?


GravatarRemember when George Galloway ripped Coleman at that hearing?

Good times!


GravatarWhat's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?


GravatarIsn't Coleman in the middle of some corruption scandal anyway? You'd think the GOPers would want him to go away.

Oh, yeah, he most certainly is. But, as so often stated, the rules are different from party to party. IAOKIYAR.


GravatarSomeone toss a match into the Straw Man. We need the warmth, and we don't need him.
Deacon Blues



(hands DB the gasoline can)


GravatarI took a photograph of a [removes sunglasses] bird! [replaces sunglasses]

http://thumbsnap.com/v/Rkp85Dbd.jpg


GravatarRemember when George Galloway ripped Coleman at that hearing?

*sniff*

That was be-yoo-T-ful!

Now Norm can go back to being the dumpster diver that he really was born to be.


GravatarIsn't Coleman in the middle of some corruption scandal anyway? You'd think the GOPers would want him to go away.
The Old Man From Scene 24

No, no no...Silly little things like laws are for democrats...

Of course, Harry Reid would sell out his own mother for a nickel...


GravatarWar blows chunks. We've been fighting over plots of lands for thousands of years and where has it gotten us? Well, the human race will be obliterated because of global warming. Our "plague" on this fine earth will soon end. Thank god. Then the earth can regenerate without us.

Coleman or Franken Smalley? The two party system still sucks crap/


Gravatarsallyh:

I have a feeling you will be around to see the asshole former SIL buried.


GravatarIs this an indication we're going to start up another drug usage thread?

NONONO, THAT WILL GIVE THE RIGHT MYSTICAL POWERS OVER US!


GravatarSee what happens when you have all that dry powder stored up. Dianne Feinstein with her FIRST WSJ editorial scolding Dubya on his way out the door.

When Barack Obama becomes America's 44th president on Jan. 20, he should embrace the vision of a predecessor who declared: "We seek the total elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth."

That president was Ronald Reagan, and he expressed this ambitious vision in his second inaugural address on Jan. 21, 1985.

Unfortunately, for eight years the Bush administration moved in another direction, pushing aggressive policies and new weapons programs, threatening to reopen the nuclear door and spark the very proliferation we seek to prevent.

President Bush made it the policy of the United States to contemplate first use of nuclear weapons in response to chemical or biological attack -- even against nonnuclear states.

Mr. Bush then sought funding for new weapons programs, including:
- A 100-kiloton "bunker buster" that scientists say would not destroy enemy bunkers as advertised, but would have spewed enough radiation to kill one million people.

- The Advanced Concepts Initiative, including developing a low-yield nuclear weapon for tactical battlefield use.

- The Modern Pit Facility, a factory that could produce up to 450 plutonium triggers a year -- even though scientists say America's nuclear triggers will be good for years.

- Pushing to reduce time-to-test readiness at the Nevada Test Site in half -- to 18 months -- signaling intent to resume testing, which would have broken a test moratorium in place since 1992.

- A new nuclear warhead, called the Reliable Replacement Warhead, which could spark a new global arms race.


GravatarNONONO, THAT WILL GIVE THE RIGHT MYSTICAL POWERS OVER US!
NTodd, Trollson


They only do prescription drugs.


GravatarSomeone Obama could have appointed to his National Security team. AND she's Jewish:

By Phyllis Bennis
Institute for Policy Studies
28 December 2008
The death toll in Gaza continues to rise. The carnage is everywhere – city streets, a
mosque, hospitals, police stations, a jail, a university bus stop, a plastics factory, a
television station. It seems impossible, unacceptable, to step back to analyze the situation
while bodies remain buried under the rubble, while parents continue to search for their
missing children, while doctors continue to labor to stitch burned and broken bodies back
together without sufficient medicine or equipment. The hospitals are running short even
of electricity—the Israeli blockade has denied them fuel to run the generators. It is an
ironic twist on the legacy of Israel’s involvement in an earlier massacre – in the Sabra
and Shatila camps, in Lebanon back in 1982, it was the Israeli soldiers who lit the flairs,
lighting the night sky so their Lebanese allies could continue to kill.
http://gazasiege.org/docs/ gaza_c..._12_28_2008.pdf


GravatarI'm going to have another drink because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh-darn it, people LIKE me!


GravatarNow, for some TV On The Radio...


GravatarIf you're a democrat, the mere hint of wrong - doing gets you impeached, or forced out of office. If you're a repig, congressional subpoenas may be ignored.


GravatarWhat's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?

56 Dems, 1 Bernie Sanders, 1 sniveling putz and 42 Pukes I think.


GravatarI've had this irrational fear as of late; my da passed on at 54. I'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?

And, despite the discomfiture implicit in it, your mother is still alive....

Seems to me you could just as easily imagine your longevity mirroring hers as your da's relative lack of it. Hmm?


GravatarTerry C, well, he is Hep C+, and deteriorating (or claims to be).


GravatarPowers Boothe has a weird name.


GravatarBush will bomb. Obama will bomb. What's the difference? Defenseless kids still die in the end.

Fuck war and fuck the asshole pols who start them.


Gravatar59-41, right?


Gravatar Terry C: I have a feeling you will be around to see the asshole former SIL buried.

May the FSM make it So.
.


GravatarWhat's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?

56 Dems, 1 Bernie Sanders, 1 sniveling putz and 42 Pukes I think.


That count would include Burris.


GravatarTerry C, well, he is Hep C+, and deteriorating (or claims to be).
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


Hopefully,nature will take its course.


GravatarNONONO, THAT WILL GIVE THE RIGHT MYSTICAL POWERS OVER US!
NTodd, Trollson


No, it just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...


Gravatar59-41, right?
res ipsa loquitur


Reid couldn't run an effectibe Senate if it was 99-1.


GravatarDrugs?

Someone fire me over some AC&C


Gravatar59-41, right?

Not necessarily, because it depends on what happens in Illinois and New York.

And Colorado is looking to be a fucking throw-away, thanks to the gov, sadly.


Gravatar'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?

Nah-nah, macushla, this isn't going to happen. I -know-.  Hecate'll back me up - the Sight tells me that you'll be back with your darling, you'll be with your family and home.  There's naught but a might of sadness between now and then, no horrors, no dreadful things.  Just a bit of being sorry for not seeing the Dear One, and that soon remedied and happiness restored.  I promise, dearie, macushla, I -promise-.


GravatarWhat's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?
res ipsa loquitur

57 or 58?

they won't have the sixty no matter what.

but you can always count on good ole joe.

what's up with the ted stevens seat?


GravatarIs Biden's Delaware Senate seat being filled without controversy?


Gravatar I'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?

A young thang, you are.

And you'll {{{}}} Maddy again.


Gravatarwhat's up with the ted stevens seat?

He lost, remember?


GravatarAw, Auntie, thank you so much.

I know that it's an irrational fear, but for some reason, that didn't stop it from cropping up.


GravatarThat count would include Burris.
DJ

Over Harry Reid's dead body.


Gravatarit just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...



And we should care what THEY think WHY?


Gravatarwhat's up with the ted stevens seat?



Begich.


Gravatarwell we know better than to expect that all the Dem Senators would be good ones.

Wiki says 55 Dems, 2 independents, 1 undecided (Senator Franken) and 1 vacant (IL).


Gravatarwhat's up with the ted stevens seat?

It's not called that any more.


GravatarAnd then there's Lieber-fuck, and Bernie.

Bernie trumps all Dem senators, except for Boxer, Kennedy, and Kerry, imo.

Don't get me going....I just chewed out an elderly gentleman who was treating a waitress in a very condescending, rude manner, almost as if she were his slave.

Asshole men who treat women like shit don't sit well with me, sorry.

/takes blood pressure


GravatarHow did Reid get the majority leader gig anyhow? Was it based on the palest complexion?


GravatarOver Harry Reid's dead body.

Is the NV Gov a Democrat?


GravatarThe very tiny "pop" sound you heard was Erick Erickson's head exploding.


GravatarI know that it's an irrational fear, but for some reason, that didn't stop it from cropping up.

It's still a fear. And something that may have had the possibility of happening, at one point.

Fear is fear. And when it comes to the smallest, most innocent among us, we are super-fretful. Completely justified.


GravatarI know that it's an irrational fear, but for some reason, that didn't stop it from cropping up.

Of course, dearie, of course.  But the links are strong and they are true and you are as well.  All you have to do is breathe, open your heart, open your mind and you'll be safe as houses.  Soon now.


Gravatarwhat's up with the ted stevens seat?

It's going to be spending a lot of time in the recliner that his friend left at his remodeled house years ago.


Gravatarit just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...



I'll take that over murderous corrupt fundie psycho any day of the week.


GravatarDon't get me going....I just chewed out an elderly gentleman who was treating a waitress in a very condescending, rude manner, almost as if she were his slave.

Asshole men who treat women like shit don't sit well with me, sorry.

/takes blood pressure
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Calm down, dear - you done good!


GravatarProud to be a fucking tree hugger. The earth is more important than anything else. Will Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.


Gravatarwhat's up with the ted stevens seat?

He lost, remember?
AndyMN

Begich.

Terry C - Forever Dateless

thanx, and the sniveling putz.

can't forget the sniveling putz.


GravatarI'll take that over murderous corrupt fundie psycho SEXUAL DEVIANT any day of the week.
DuaneV,Wanker

That needed a little extra.


GravatarRight on time . . . the Troll Express pulls into the station


Gravatarsallyh, I will chime in with reasurances. Also, anyone who's had a parent die early gets creeped out when approaching the same age. It's just a human thing. Nothing dispositive or premonitiony about it.


GravatarWill Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.

I hope it's 20. By then, I'll have just enough not to be able to retire.


GravatarI'll take that over murderous corrupt fundie psycho SEXUAL DEVIANT any day of the week.

yeah no shit. The wingnuts ought to think more about how they are currently perceived than about their sorry stereotypes of others.


GravatarThe interesting thing about drugs is that they were a part of the counterculture, which is integral in resistance where you try to undermine the existing social order. Dunno if that would count as a heterotopic site or not, but seems like it could be...


GravatarI revere the elderly. I don't like chewing them out, even if I did it in the nicest way. The old guy apologized, but not after it made a 50 year old woman cry.

What a fucking asshole. It's not like she put the mayonnaise on his sandwich.


GravatarColts 7
Chargers 0


GravatarRight on time . . . the Troll Express pulls into the station

And all the toilets flush simultaneously.


Gravatarhi bats.


GravatarIs the NV Gov a Democrat?
The Old Man From Scene 24

Jim Gibbons? (R)


GravatarWill Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.

The earth will survive this foolish species.


GravatarIs the NV Gov a Democrat?
The Old Man From Scene 24


Jim Gibbons - Repig


GravatarObama is a fraud like every other pol. Used car salesman. Abbie Hoffman was right---"They're too strong."


Gravataroh look, fy has re-incarnated.


GravatarWill Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.

The earth will survive this foolish species.


Civilizations come and go.
But Earth Abides.


GravatarObama is a fraud like every other pol.

Said the wise critic, after the man has had -1 months in office.


Gravataroh look, fy has re-incarnated.
JR, kerosene and a match


Either that or someone needs to take a chill pill, have a drink or smoke a joint.


Gravatar"Don't get me going....I just chewed out an elderly gentleman who was treating a waitress in a very condescending, rude manner, almost as if she were his slave."

Well done!


GravatarI see the drum circle is missing a finger-cymbal player...


GravatarTV guys are talking like Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band are bigger than the Apocolypse. And it's happening February 1 OMG.


GravatarHate to have to go back to Firefox because it shows haloscan down for me, but I am not putting up with the mouthbreathers tonight.


Gravatar{{{Montag}}}

How's your Saturday?

I'm crossing my fingers for Senator Franken


GravatarI don't like chewing them out, even if I did it in the nicest way.

I hope you made him leave a big tip!


Gravatardaughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.

I think the fetus thing is really a means to an end for many fundies and conservatives, who really want to control women, limit sexuality in teens, and enshrine the traditional Prager family model (men work, women appreciate it in every way).


GravatarSaid the wise critic, after the man has had -1 months in office.

-15 days, 32 minutes, 10 seconds.

Not that I'm counting or anything


GravatarHey, no offense...but if Obama cared he'd condemn what's happening in Gaza. It's just evil, man.


GravatarDon't ask me to arm-wrestle a fetus. I hate when that happens.


Gravatarooops, -16 days, 15 hours, 31 minutes 48 seconds.


Simles regrets.


Gravatarrights of fetuses

WTF!

A clump of cells don't HAVE rights.


Gravatardaughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the
abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.


And where do they place the quickening?


GravatarDon't ask me to arm-wrestle a fetus. I hate when that happens.

It's not so much the fetus' rights you have to watch, but their lefts. Wicked uppercuts!


GravatarThe RedState Strike Force now has its own awesome badge!

Available now as an iron-on patch in every box of Wingnutters, the breakfast cereal for conservatards.


GravatarI think the fetus thing is really a means to an end for many fundies and conservatives, who really want to control women, limit sexuality in teens, and enshrine the traditional Prager family model (men work, women appreciate it in every way).
peterb oy


IF the men can even find jobs in this economy.


Gravatardaughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.

peterb oy


Ya know, biology aside, I'm a bit of a bastard this way. I don't think young children have rights, so it would be impossible for fetuses to have rights, IMO.

Only moral agents can have rights.


Gravatarit just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...

And we should care what THEY think WHY?
Terry C - Forever Dateless


I should include most of the mainstream, not just the right. It's a common perception in the media, throughout our society, actually.
I just believe that if we're going to fight for leftist values, we have to be just as disciplined as the US military, or any corporation that drug tests. We should be concerned with staying fit and physically healthy. Why is it that only rightwing military types should be able to run marathons and do 20+ military pull ups?
It's one of the reasons the 60s counterculture failed to take root in our society and influence the mainstream. It's become either a marketing gimmick, or a joke...


GravatarForgot the link!

http://www.redstate.com/erick/20...dstate-in-2009/


GravatarObama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy. He's better than McW. There will be disappointments. Get over it in advance.


GravatarOK, bills are paid, son's apartment is packed into the rental truck outside, laundry's almost done, and I've been to the grocery store, put away the groceries and done the dishes.

I am gonna sit with a glass of V8 for a bit. Party on.


Gravatar2 Girls 1 Cup is a copy of the trailer for Hungry Bitches, a pornographic film produced by MFX-Media. The trailer features two women defecating into a cup, taking turns consuming the excrement, and vomiting into each other's mouths. "Lovers Theme" from Hervé Roy's Romantic Themes album released by Tele Music in 1992 plays throughout.


GravatarObama is part of the statndard Constitutional, political system. I don't want him weighing in on Gaza until 1/20. Right now I'm more interested in what his online critics are actively doing about the crisis.


GravatarThis one-minute trailer is an Internet viral video that became a well-known Internet meme among bloggers and Internet forums for the reactions its graphic content elicited from its viewers. Around mid-October 2007, video sites such as YouTube were flooded with videos depicting others' reactions to watching the video for the first time.


GravatarGromit, better add something to the V8.


Gravatar"And where do they place the quickening?"

After the Highlander takes the final head!


Gravatarthe abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.


There shouldn't be any argument at all.

Women's rights should take precedence.

peterboy is right - this is all about control.


Gravatardaughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.

My balls contain millions of rights.


GravatarObama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy.

After the reckless, hubristic braggart we had the past eight years, he'll be fucking Jesus.


GravatarA clump of cells don't HAVE rights.
Terry C - Forever Dateless


IRS says you can't claim anyone as a human dependent until they start breathing. That's good enough for me.


Gravatar"Looks like he's up about 225 after the count."

that made my day, it did.


Gravatarfuck off, jack


GravatarComment by marcus blocked.


Jeezus Chripes on iceskates.


GravatarWhat's wrong with beng a sex-starved mystical tree hugger?


Gravatarrights of fetuses

In CA, your responsibility to your child begins at birth. I'd like to see it kept that way.


GravatarObama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy.



That's fine with me.


GravatarThe interesting thing about drugs is that they were a part of the counterculture, which is integral in resistance where you try to undermine the existing social order.

Is the goal to undermine the social order, or to influence, convince and ultimately to persuade?

Let's say, "win hearts and minds," to co-opt a phrase...


GravatarIt's good that certain outrage manufacturers can avoid all invalid assumptions and not paint with broad brushes like the right does.


Gravatar"Obama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy."

i'd say he's a *thoughtful* guy, which i'll take after 8 years of ideological idiocy.


GravatarPart of what has facilitated 2 Girls 1 Cup's spread are the reactions it causes. Hundreds of videos exist on YouTube of users showing the original video to their friends and taping their reactions. Even Joe Rogan, host of Fear Factor, a show notorious for the disgusting things its contestants eat, had to turn away in a reaction video posted to his blog. A reaction video starring Kermit the Frog proved very popular on the community-based popularity website Digg. In January 2008, Slate magazine documented the reaction video phenomenon with a slideshow featuring various reactions.


GravatarCivilizations come and go.
But Earth Abides.
Supreme Commander Thor

Cold comfort.


GravatarI'm hard on the Killfile button tonight


GravatarHow's your Saturday?

It started kinda late. I stayed up too late watching "Pan's Labyrinth."

Just now listening to Kevin Phillips talk about how successive administrations have fiddled with statistical measurements to hide the actual inflation rates and poor GDP performance. Much of it, I think, is in his book, Bad Money, but, I haven't had the chance to read that yet. Will soon, though. Have it on order.


GravatarI should include most of the mainstream, not just the right. It's a common perception in the media, throughout our society, actually.



Who cares?


GravatarLet's say, "win hearts and minds," to co-opt a phrase...
Elias


hasn't worked.

So it's time to say "fuck it" and get medieval on their ass.


GravatarAll hail the 60s counterculture!!! They believed in something. The Dems don't believe in shit!!!


GravatarHeckuva job, Commerce Dept!

The Feb. 17 transition from analog to digital television broadcasts looms and as many as 8 million households are still unprepared, but the government program that subsidizes crucial TV converter boxes is about to run out of money.

People who still rely on analog TV sets to pick up over-the-air signals — whether it is through rabbit-ear aerials on TVs or antennas on the roof — will see their screens go dark when the changeover happens. To avoid that, those people have to switch to cable or satellite TV, buy a television set with a digital tuner or buy a converter box that can translate digital signals from the airwaves into analog.

To subsidize the converter boxes, most of which cost between $40 and $80, the government has been letting consumers request up to two $40 coupons per home. But any day now, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), the arm of the Commerce Department in charge of administering the coupon program, expects to hit a $1.34 billion funding ceiling set by Congress.

Now the NTIA is warning that unless lawmakers step in quickly with more funding or new accounting rules, it will have to create a waiting list for coupon requests. That would mean it could send out additional coupons only as unredeemed ones expire, freeing up more money for the program.


GravatarCivilizations come and go.
But Earth Abides.
Supreme Commander Thor

Cold comfort.


Weirdly enough, I am comforted by that. It would be awful if we could just break a planet that easily.


GravatarRight now I'm more interested in what his online critics are actively doing about the crisis.
NTodd, Trollson


Voting for candidates who try to deliver humanitarian aid to a besieged people, then almost getting killed for it.

What's your guy doing? Golfing?


GravatarGromit, better add something to the V8.

No alcohol when younger son is around. He beat the addiction 18 months ago and has done a great job staying off the stuff. Runs AA meetings at the juvenile lockup.

Moving him to Hyde Park tomorrow for culinary school. Gonna be a long day.


GravatarEllie Mae really IS holier than thou, isn't he?

He has ALL the answers to EVERYTHING.

And he's calling other people "pompous."?

(sigh) time for killfile.


GravatarSally, the cheesecake met its destiny quickly. Good for you.


GravatarIt's good that certain outrage manufacturers can avoid all invalid assumptions and not paint with broad brushes like the right does.

Being straight-edge does that to you.


Gravatar2 Girls 1 Cup is a copy of the trailer for Hungry Bitches, a hunger awareness film produced by the Republican party. The trailer features two members of Rick Warren's church defecating into a cup, taking turns consuming the excrement, and vomiting into Rush's and Hannity's mouths.

fixed your typos


Gravatar
And where do they place the quickening?


In the hands of The Highlander, of course.

There can be only one, after all.


GravatarHe has ALL the answers to EVERYTHING.

And he's calling other people "pompous."?

(sigh) time for killfile.
Terry C - Forever Dateless


One Tin Fuckup is Killfiled Away!


Gravatari'd say he's a *thoughtful* guy, which i'll take after 8 years of ideological idiocy.
jdw


"Whut tha Amurkin people need to unnerstand is..."


GravatarAfter the reckless, hubristic braggart we had the past eight years, he'll be fucking Jesus.
MP

I could tell by the fact that the Repigs are already trying to crucify him.


GravatarSomebody also has a temporal problem and thinks that voting is all its about. Typical.


GravatarThere can be only one, after all.

Which is patently untrue since there were multiple movies and a series... ;-P


GravatarI know, Echidne, same here. When I'm out hiking, I'm looking at trees and cliffs and canyons that pre-date me and will be here long after I'm gone. It's comforting. And yeah, even the worst damage we do will be ground up and reborn in time.


GravatarWe need a new counterculture. This sucky time is like the 1950s.


GravatarComment by
BurpMeAnObamabot blocked.

I believe in killfile.


Gravatar"Weirdly enough, I am comforted by that. It would be awful if we could just break a planet that easily."

even if we break it, other shit will be around. eventually, we may even come back to break it again!


GravatarChris T, it's sinful to allow a Junior's cheesecake to exist more than a brief period after purchase.


Gravatarnot so much on that 1 cup thing,
if I want outrageous comedy, I stick with the aristocrats!

http://www.thearistocrats.com/


GravatarI'm hard on the Killfile button tonight
Supreme Commander Thor


I now temporarily killfile the people who respond to trolls. Helps a lot.


GravatarTo subsidize the converter boxes, most of which cost between $40 and $80, the government has been letting consumers request up to two $40 coupons per home. But any day now, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), the arm of the Commerce Department in charge of administering the coupon program, expects to hit a $1.34 billion funding ceiling set by Congress.

I'm not an early adopter. I'm waiting for the latest redeemable coupons to come out.


Gravatar"Wha' th' 'murkin people needsh ta unnershtand ish..."

A little more accurate transcription...


GravatarHoping for Hamas to have similar success as Hezbollah


GravatarWhat an interesting panoply of trolls this evening.

Not interesting enough to keep me hanging around, though, especially since I need to put some food in my system.

Later, good people.

Oh, and Bonus Critter Blogging is up, one which is maternal in nature.


GravatarI now temporarily killfile the people who respond to trolls.

Yeah, I'm getting to that point...


GravatarGromit, kudos to you and the kid. Add some V8 juice to your V8 juice.


GravatarSallyh, Are you enjoying the SoCal weather? 19° and windy here.


GravatarIRS says you can't claim anyone as a human dependent until they start breathing. That's good enough for me.- Supreme Commander Thor

this reminds me of Miracle on 34th Street - but I'll stop the analogy there...


GravatarJesus & Mo on abortion:

http://www.jesusandmo.net/2007/1...07/10/22/women/


GravatarSomebody also has a temporal problem and thinks that voting is all its about. Typical.
NTodd, Trollson


For those who are only capable of voting.
But you not understanding that not everyone can live up to your high, moral pedestal is, well, typical...


Gravatar"Moving him to Hyde Park tomorrow for culinary school. Gonna be a long day"

that's wonderful. good luck!


Gravatar
Asshole men who treat women like shit don't sit well with me, sorry.


About the only thing that will bring out my latent Old Vermonter Redneck streak, really. And I have a posse of Irish goons to back me up!


GravatarI now temporarily killfile the people who respond to trolls


Yeah really, people like Terry C and JR.


GravatarOne can say:

* The Civil Rights movement failed because there is still racism and inequality.

* The Civil Rights movement succeeded in its immediate goals and built the foundation for the continuing struggle.

Maybe some sort of historical dialectic would help to understand that shit doesn't just stop, even if you pronounce it has...


GravatarObama is one of those straight A technocrats you hated in college who brownnosed the prof and got straight A's You know the type.


GravatarOnce more with feeling:

The five developmental stages toward Active Peace.


GravatarComment by turner blocked.


Fuck you!


GravatarAnd yeah, even the worst damage we do will be ground up and reborn in time.
larkspur


A long, long time in the case of strip mined mountains and so forth. Even longer in the case of plastic in the environment-- a couple of billion years, likely, before something evolves to eat them.


GravatarBack later. I have to put food on my family. (One dog, one cat, and moi.)


GravatarCIA: Don't put the yellowcake thing in there. We debunked it. Ahhh...they put the yellowcake thing in there.


GravatarObama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan


GravatarObama is one of those straight A technocrats you hated in college who brownnosed the prof and got straight A's You know the type.
BurpMeAnObamabot


How goes your plans for the McCain inauguration?


GravatarI should include most of the mainstream, not just the right. It's a common perception in the media, throughout our society, actually.
I just believe that if we're going to fight for leftist values,

(which I scoff at but for the sake of trolling)

we have to be just as disciplined as the US military, or any corporation that drug tests. We should be concerned with staying fit and physically healthy. Why is it that only rightwing military types should be able to run marathons and do 20+ military pull ups?

(I copied and pasted this whole screed)

It's one of the reasons the 60s counterculture failed to take root in our society and influence the mainstream. It's become either a marketing gimmick, or a joke...

(If I was a marketing image, I would be bankrupt)

Did I ever tell you I smoke the odd (or even) pole?


GravatarRight now I'm more interested in what his online critics are actively doing about the crisis.


I'm watching the Colts/Chargers.


GravatarI love going to restaurants with my son. He has such instant rapport with waitstaff. I used to be more pleasant, but am getting grouchy.

(For sallyh -- the son I so enjoy being with now was "childstolen" by his father when he was three. Only for 4 months but an eternity at the time and at that time of his life. Take care of yourself and keep your heart open. No guarantees, but better than the alternative.)


GravatarYou know the type.
BurpMeAnObamabot | 01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #

You don't.


GravatarGromit, it's about 50 right now, headed for the mid 30s tonight.

Still beats 19 + wind


Gravatarhttp://www.cafepress.com/ electio...outlet.39679559


GravatarFrank Rich is getting in a few last digs at Chimpy

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/0...ion/ 04rich.html


GravatarFuck you!



Terry C to the killfile for responding to trolls.


GravatarJesus and Mo is brilliant.


GravatarBut you not understanding that not everyone can live up to your high, moral pedestal is, well, just like me. I am a stone Republican and worship Ayn Rand.


GravatarBefore I go - you're right, Moe, about the billions of years. Even when the old stuff is spewed up again as new magma, there will probably be some Barbie dolls and such in the mix. Billions and billions of years.


GravatarI have the balcony door, open.

Additional 2 cats 1 balcony pixels
.


GravatarI'm watching the Colts/Chargers.
Shared Humanity

Chargers at the 3!


GravatarI seriously doubt that the first impulse of the civil rights heroes was to run as fast as possible to the polling station to vote for mainstream liberals who told them they should wait, or be patient, after they were chewed to bits by dogs, pummeled by fire hoses, if not already lynched or shot.


GravatarFrank Rich is getting in a few last digs at Chimpy

I have something I'd like to dig chimpy, but it might get me banned.


GravatarIsrael's policy has been failing for years now -- one is reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity.


GravatarObama about as foolish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan


Gravatar7 UP!


GravatarThink about it... we humans have so fucked up things in just 100 years or so that it will take billions of years to right it. Just think of what we can accomplish in another few hundred years.


Gravatar[Breaks rule]

Elias, you do realize that by changing your nym to avoid killfile, you are confirming your status as a troll.


GravatarObama about as foolish as Bush

Not a chance.


GravatarObama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan.

Just another Neocon


GravatarPentimenti - the son I so enjoy being with now was "childstolen" by his father when
he was three. Only for 4 months but an eternity at the time and at that
time of his life.


Damn!


GravatarIsrael's policy has been failing for years now -- one is reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity.
Prior Aelred

GWOT means never having to say you're sorry. Or, was that Israeli citizenship?


GravatarObama is one of those straight A technocrats you hated in college who brownnosed the prof and got straight A's You know the type.

Hmm. I didn't need to brown-nose anyone to get all "A"s.

How about you? You say all the above as if you were groveling like Pasqualino Settebellezze just to keep your "C" average....


Gravatar DuaneV: 7 UP!

+225 Franken, last I heard.
.


GravatarCIA: Don't talk about the Prague meeting. We debunked it. Ah... he's talking about the Prague meeting.


GravatarThink about it... we humans have so fucked up things in just 100 years or so that it will take billions of years to right it. Just think of what we can accomplish in another few hundred years.

I know what the answer to this one is supposed to be: We will hafta go into space to get a clean planet after this one gets too messy! Also we can breed lots more and fill up other planets and then leave beer rings there, too.


GravatarObama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan

Just another Neocon
With the chief warmonger
as SoS


GravatarAmazing how people vote Democratic when all the votes are counted...


GravatarElias, you do realize that by changing your nym to avoid killfile, you are confirming your status as a troll.
Gromit


Like anything I say or do would change that, Grommy, ol buddy ol pal.


GravatarI have corresponded with the creator of Jesus & Mo -- another one of his fans is a nun (Episcopalian, of course)


GravatarUp in heaven, there God sits on his majestic throne, Jesus standing on his right side and Elias on his left overlooking it all.


GravatarObama's coolness factor prevents zombie attacks.


GravatarAmazing how people vote Democratic when all the votes are counted...
ellroon with shoes


Which is why Repigs never want the votes counted..


GravatarI don't think Obama had to "brown-nose" anyone to get straight A's.

Nor did Al Gore and that was the rap that rightards laid on him too.

After all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.


GravatarWhich is why Repigs never want the votes counted..
DuaneV,Wanker

zactly.


GravatarI know what the answer to this one is supposed to be: We will hafta go into space to get a clean planet after this one gets too messy! Also we can breed lots more and fill up other planets and then leave beer rings there, too.
Echidne


I've given this a lot of thought, actually. And I'm convinced that even if that's what we wanted to do, it won't-- it can't-- happen. We're fated to stay right where we are.


GravatarSome sex-positive feminists have gone so far as to equate bukkake with sexual liberation, and an expression of the freedom of a woman to have as many sexual partners as she desires.


GravatarBut you're right. And I do get a kick out of it, too.


GravatarAfter all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.

I don't. I want five or six.


GravatarObama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan

Just another Neocon
With the chief warmonger
Hitlery as SoS


GravatarFrank Rich is getting in a few last digs at Chimpy

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/0...ion/ 04rich.html
P O'Neill


Frank Rich is drinking for free all night at my bar.


GravatarI just remember having a discussion with a co-worker years ago about how the Iraq war was sold and the culpability of Bush/Cheney in not being on watch before 9/11 and I referenced points from Franken's book "Lies" and the chapter "Operation Ignore" and this co-worker just looked at me and said:
"Al Franken?.. the comedian Al Franken??"

Yes.. pissant. Senator Al Franken.


GravatarThe Rethugs wanted to impeach Bill Clinton so bad to make up for Nixon, it fucking consumed them.


GravatarUp in heaven, there God sits on his majestic throne, Jesus standing on his right side and Elias on his left overlooking it all.
20¿09


Such an insult.
I know you meant Jesus and God at my sides...


GravatarWe will hafta go into space to get a clean planet after this one gets too messy!

"Wall-E"

"Eeeeeeeeeva!"


GravatarIsrael's policy has been failing for years now -- one is reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity.

I've been comparing the two of them when I'm dragged into a conversation on that topic. It tends to end the conversation.



GravatarI don't think Obama had to "brown-nose" anyone to get straight A's.

Nor did Al Gore and that was the rap that rightards laid on him too.

After all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.

Terry C - Forever Dateless |

What comforts me is that both Obama and Biden have taught Constitutional law classes. They know their stuff.


GravatarSupreme Commander, you're right.

Killfile is doing heavy cardio about now


Gravatar
montag:

You've hit it on the head; someone sounds jealous.


GravatarMatt Smith, the Eleventh Doctor:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s.../ 090103_news_01


GravatarI seriously doubt that the first impulse of the civil rights heroes was to run as fast as possible to the polling station to vote for mainstream liberals... pummeled by fire hoses, if not already lynched or shot

Get a load of my cut and paste job folks.

I'm a peach.


GravatarWho wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!


GravatarNoted at the end of Rich's column:

Maureen Dowd and Thomas L. Friedman are off today.

Not exactly. They're off every day.


Gravatar couple of billion years, likely, before something evolves to eat them.
Moe Szyslak


Dude.. we already have plastic eating bacteria.


GravatarComment by grand blocked.


Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


GravatarHow's that Celtic Tiger working out?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/0...& pagewanted=all


GravatarAfter all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.

I don't. I want five or six.
AndyMN


Conversations with smart drunk people are always entertaining.

Conversations with dumb folks?
Not so much...


GravatarWho wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN


Call me in 1975, when I had energy.


GravatarPeople who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality: working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.


GravatarAfter all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.
-----------------
I don't. I want five or six. - AndyMN


'My Dinner With Andy'


GravatarBG, I haven't even looked at their columns in something remotely resembling forever. I just figured they were still being middle school silly.


GravatarMaureen Dowd and Thomas L. Friedman are off today.

Not exactly. They're off every day.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame

Off their rockers!


Gravatarinvariably


GravatarWho wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN

Call me in 1975, when I had energy.


1975 was also the year when two bucks was the going rate.


GravatarDude.. we already have plastic eating bacteria.
JR


Totally? And like, out in the world? I'm just repeating something I read in "The World Without Us"....


GravatarAndyMN -- $2 a pound?


.


GravatarWhen they say they put you on killfile, they really don't. They're just being drama queens.


GravatarCall me in 1975, when I had energy.

Well, I was born that year. Think even I had energy then.


GravatarJust now jumping in--does no one have Larry King in their 2009 deadpool?

He's on my list, I tell you what.


GravatarPeople who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality: working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.
Gromit

Who've never gotten an 'A'...


GravatarWho wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN


i want one of 'em up front. at least.


GravatarUp in heaven, there God sits on his majestic throne, Jesus standing on his right side and Elias with his head up his ass, overlooking it all.


Gravatar1975 was also the year when two bucks was the going rate.

Jeez...the economy sucks, people!


GravatarWhen they say they put you on killfile, they really don't.

It's pretty embarrassing to carry on about how you're ignoring the trolls. don't these morons see the contradiction?


GravatarWho wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN


Over here in God's Country (Golden Valley) it seems to have quit snowing.


GravatarOff their rockers!
DuaneV,Wanker | 01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #


Off their meds.


GravatarHonestly, I understand Israel's fear -- we could leave Vietnam & we will leave Iraq -- Israel is there

But the failed policies of the past aren't working -- they are making things worse -- you don't get people to like you & trust you by cutting off their access to food, water & electricity & then bombing them -- I know that people of my generation got sick and tired of hearing about "winning hearts and minds" but what Israel desperately needs to do is to change the attitudes of people -- this is not going to do it (IMHO)


GravatarPeople who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality: working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.


A female student informed a male colleague of mine that she would do 'anything' for an A.

He said to her, "Would you...study?"


Gravatar
Well, I was born that year.


Freakin' kids around here. Please shovel my lawn and then get offa it.


GravatarCharlie Chaplin is stuck in the big evil machine! LET HIM OUT! (I really should own these...)


GravatarWho wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!

Negotiable, as long as we're not talking the parking lot at MSP International....


GravatarWell, I was born that year. Think even I had energy then.
AndyMN


Oh yes. Yes, you did.


GravatarI do so love Frank Rich when he's bitchy. Nobody does it better.


GravatarA female student informed a male colleague of mine that she would do 'anything' for an A.

That's never happened to me. (That I've noticed, anyway)


GravatarTotally? And like, out in the world?
Moe Szyslak


nylon eating bug evolved by itself, some high school student bred a bug that would eat plastic grocery bags.

Fuckin cool.


Gravatar"your mother", that was funny right there.


GravatarGromit, L.A. does have its advantages.

For one thing, I don't have to hire anyone to shovel snow


GravatarWhen they say they put you on killfile, they really don't.

Wrong-o.


GravatarWhen they say they put you on killfile, they really don't. They're just being drama queens.

Actually, no.
I've had enough of you too.

Comment by 20¿09 blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]


GravatarIf they were really putting you on killfile, they would do so quietly instead of making such a huge production of it.


Gravatar"Wall-E"

"Eeeeeeeeeva!"


Ericka and I saw that for the first time at NTodd's Pa's on Xmas. Lovely.

We also watched Tropic Thunder. Fucking hysterical. Just brill.


GravatarGod's Country (Golden Valley)

Pfft...everyone knows that St. Louis Park is Gawd's country. Look who it spawned:

-Franken

-Coen Brothers

-lil' Tommy Friedman

Oh...never mind that last one. Even the "creator" is not perfect.


GravatarThat's never happened to me. (That I've noticed, anyway)

Nobody offered you a skiing holiday in Switzerland? I thought everyone got one of those offers.


GravatarPeople who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality:
working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.


Gromit



Who've never gotten an 'A'...


And they vote for OTHER invariably lazy asshole fratboys who've never gotten an "A".


GravatarI know that people of my generation got sick and tired of hearing about "winning hearts and minds" but what Israel desperately needs to do is to change the attitudes of people -- this is not going to do it (IMHO)
Prior Aelred


Unfortunately, the will to do that is just not there. The more the Israeli's isolate the Palestinians, the more they become the evil Other.


GravatarWatching this telephone commercial filmed in Central Park.... Mrs. Blues and I so enjoyed our day there. We loved the people watching in the park, and throughout the city.


GravatarA female student informed a male colleague of mine that she would do 'anything' for an A.

He said to her, "Would you...study?"
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere

Except that.


GravatarI do so love Frank Rich when he's bitchy. Nobody does it better.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


maybe wolcott. maybe.


GravatarGoddamn it that was me.


GravatarWell, a couple of hundred million years for the mountains that have been stripmined, anyway.


GravatarLooks like the Arab countries are doing their bit for Gaza -- arguing over clauses in a UN Security Council resolution.


GravatarComment by 20¿09 blocked.

We announce it to make a point.


GravatarDeacon, if I had to live anywhere else, it would be Manhattan. I love the place.

Mlle will most likely be living there within the year.


GravatarWe also watched Tropic Thunder. Fucking hysterical. Just brill.
NTodd, Trollson

I thought so, too.


GravatarGosh darn you, Adam.


GravatarAnd they vote for OTHER invariably lazy asshole fratboys who've never gotten an "A".

Margaret Mead wrote a paper on this a long, long time ago.


GravatarGosh darn you, Adam.
Vicki, 98% Virgin


What'd I do?


GravatarWell, a couple of hundred million years for the mountains that have been stripmined, anyway.
Moe Szyslak


Well, they aren't "coming back" but it's not really a biggie.


GravatarAdam!

How's my favorite curmudgeon tonight?

(You know that I have a soft spot for curmudgeons, I hope)


GravatarI know that people of my generation got sick and tired of hearing about "winning hearts and minds" but what Israel desperately needs to do is to change the attitudes of people -- this is not going to do it (IMHO)

Imagine if they took half the military aid we give them each year and invested it in Palestinian infrastructure. It would be a few times more than what we give the Palestinians, and go a long way...


Gravatarmaybe wolcott. maybe.


A Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.


GravatarStoat, that's possible.

Wolcott can be a mean girl when he wants to be


GravatarHi Sallyh! I'm good; I hope you are the same.


GravatarA Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.
billy b


wolcott is? really?


GravatarMy students do things like say, "no pressure, but I need an A in this class or I can't come back next semester," or, "if I submit my midterm now, will that improve my F?"


GravatarFor one thing, I don't have to hire anyone to shovel snow
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


But you do have to hire an illegal to mow your lawn jk


GravatarPoint is you can be brilliant and not brown nose the prof. Obama is a nice man. Intelligent, no doubt. But he's no man of the left.

Ya think all those white folks in suburbia would have voted for Jesse Jackson? Nuff said.


Gravatargood evening, sallyh.


GravatarBetter go dust off the sidewalk. Gosh knows you greedy pigs won't do it for me. BBL.


GravatarYour mother | 01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #

I'm not disagreeing with you
Sadly -- most Israeli citizens want peace -- but the combination of their screwy voting system & just plain fear keeps leading them into self-defeating policies (or so it seems to me)

Look at how the Limey's learned after Bloody Sunday -- they bit the bullet and took more casualties than they inflicted (because the alternative creates more terrorists)


GravatarAdam,

Goddamn it that was me



(tickled my funny bone)


GravatarFurther comments by HoneyBearKelly, blocked.


so there


GravatarStoat, hi there

Deacon, no comment on that one


GravatarI was the only one on my block that shoveled the couple of inches of snow that fell last night. After the New Year's Eve blizzard, couple inches apparently didn't reach the shoveable level for most people.


GravatarHey, sallyh, my heart is with you. I get to see my 8 year old granddaughter and the finest-baby-in-the-world, her baby sister, about 3x per year. Not hostility, exactly, but my DIL is a DIP and insular, I guess I'd say. But I did get to see them all over Christmas, so it's all good at the moment.


GravatarLooks like the Arab countries are doing their bit for Gaza -- arguing over clauses in a UN Security Council resolution.

I don't know which clauses to which you're referring, but, in fairness, they tend to get antsy about language ever since the Israeli government continued its occupation unabated because of the (possibly deliberate) failure to include the word "all" in the clause in UNR 242 about territories from which Israeli troops had to withdraw.


Gravatarwolcott is? really?

Indeed. He had this recent bio of Johnny Unitas on his book rec. list like forever. It may still be there...


GravatarA Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.

billy b


And John Waters.



GravatarI'm First!!!
MP


I demand a recount!


GravatarThe only people I killfile are people who comment about who they killfile.


GravatarWatching this telephone commercial filmed in Central Park.... Mrs. Blues and I so enjoyed our day there. We loved the people watching in the park, and throughout the city.
Deacon Blues | 01.03.09 - 9:12 pm |


Did you catch the disco rollerskaters?


GravatarDeacon, if I had to live anywhere else, it would be Manhattan. I love the place....
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere


Can't afford it. What with the $9 french fries and all.


GravatarPosition in queue: 255


Gravatar
I'm not disagreeing with you
Sadly -- most Israeli citizens want peace -- but the combination of their screwy voting system & just plain fear keeps leading them into self-defeating policies (or so it seems to me)

Prior Aelred


There's also been an increase in immigration to Israel from Arab and Eastern European countries in the last 30 years. This population, according to my mother at least, tends to be very right wing and racist. And they vote that way, unfortunately.


GravatarWhy no Lexus bumperstickers for Jesse 1988? Ha ha ha ha!!!!! Yeah, right. Nuff said lifestyle liberals.


GravatarAnyone ever try to cook a frozen pizza on a bbq?


GravatarI heart John Waters.


GravatarI killfile everyone, and let Eli sort 'em out.

There's pinching involved.
.


GravatarThe only people I killfile are people who comment about who they killfile.
Killfile This


First rule of killfile: Never talk about killfile.


GravatarDid you catch the disco rollerskaters?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame


They ones slaloming through a line of small cones? By the bridge in the Sprint commercial? We watched for an hour or so.


GravatarLooks like the Arab countries are doing their bit for Gaza -- arguing over clauses in a UN Security Council resolution. - P O'Neil

but what are our Arab countries saying?


GravatarThe only people I killfile are people who comment about who they killfile.

I only killfile people who tell us they will killfile people who tell us they killfile people.


Gravatarbill buckner, did you ever read jane leavy's "sandy koufax: a lefty's legacy?"


GravatarPosition in queue: 200


GravatarI only killfile myself.


GravatarNTodd -- they tried something like that once -- beer brewed by Palestinian Christians was selling very well in Israel -- until the next crisis & the Israelis bombed the brewery (which some of us would consider a war crime -- unless it was Coors ...)


GravatarThey ones slaloming through a line of small cones? By the bridge in the Sprint commercial? We watched for an hour or so.
Deacon Blues | 01.03.09 - 9:21 pm |


That's one group of them. But the main group dance/skate in an oval not too far from there. Some of them have been going there for 30 years.


Gravatarcouple inches apparently didn't reach the shoveable level for most people.

One of Life's Little Pleasures is manhandling a snowed-in car out of the driveway WITHOUT shoveling. Landlord does that. He has to be good for Something..


Gravatar"Wall-E"

"Eeeeeeeeeva!"

Ericka and I saw that for the first time at NTodd's Pa's on Xmas. Lovely.

We also watched Tropic Thunder. Fucking hysterical. Just brill.
NTodd, Trollson | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 9:12 pm |


Loved Wall-E. Tropic Thunder is waiting for me at the library.

OTOH, Journey to the Center of the Earth, with Brendan Fraser? Not so good.


GravatarNTodd -- they tried something like that once -- beer brewed by Palestinian Christians was selling very well in Israel -- until the next crisis & the Israelis bombed the brewery (which some of us would consider a war crime -- unless it was Coors ...)
Prior Aelred


Isn't blowing up beer a mortal sin? Unless it's crap beer like Coors or Budweiser, of course.


GravatarThat's one group of them. But the main group dance/skate in an oval not too far from there. Some of them have been going there for 30 years.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame


Did not see that group, I guess. There was some live-comedy-performance going on on the other side of the bridge, quite a large crowd. Mrs. and I were tired and wanted to sit, so we didn't catch much of that particular act.


GravatarPosition in queue: 144

I am liveblogging my World of Warcraft game...


GravatarWhat happens in killfile, stays in killfile.

Capiche?


Gravatarone of the turning points in the sorry history of modern palestine came after the 1948 war, when king farouk of egypt, in control of the gaza, got in touch with king abdulla of jordan, in control of the west bank, and suggested that they declare the grand mufti of the palestinians to be the head of a new palestinian state. abdullah said, nah, i think i'll just make the west bank part of the kingdom of jordan. to the palestinians, he said, you don't want to settle for these (what we now call pre-1967) boundaries - stay in the camps ready to leave at any time, because soon we are going to drive all the jews into the sea and then you can live wherever you want...

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GravatarNTodd -- they tried something like that once -- beer brewed by Palestinian Christians was selling very well in Israel -- until the next crisis & the Israelis bombed the brewery (which some of us would consider a war crime -- unless it was Coors ...)

Then perhaps they didn't understand the idea all that well...


GravatarPalestinian Christians

When I was in Palestine (1989) fully a third of the West Bank Palestinians, and just about all of the middle class Palestinians, were Christian. Now, not so much, I understand.

It was Christians in Beit Sahour, btw, who started the first tax strike against the occupation. I was there in a sort of lull in the battle. The entire town was surrounded by military encampments and roadblocks, but I got in with the assistance of a young women who knew the way around the road blocks.


GravatarTropic Thunder was retarded.


GravatarAn entire thread about killfile. We've hit a new low.


GravatarHey, Obama why not condemn the Israelis?


GravatarTropic Thunder was brilliant if you like blackface.


Gravatar"sandy koufax: a lefty's legacy?"

Yes! Great book - he was a bad motherfucker... (I regret that I'm too young to have seen him pitch.)


GravatarDeacon, I was thinking of the $10 cigarettes...


GravatarThe little girl in Little Miss Sunshine SO looks like my granddaughter. S'wonderful to watch the movie and relate to my little punkin'.


GravatarPosition in queue: 65


GravatarShared Humanity, we never stop trying


GravatarKILL ALL GEICO ADS!!!!!! RWRRRR!
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GravatarThink about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza.


GravatarSenator Franken unveiled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=b_mwsDFm7bQ


Eat shit Normy.


GravatarWe need a term to describe killfiling oneself.

Blogacide?


GravatarI used "killfile" on all that useless CIA shit about how Saddam Hussein didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction. Been using it since I was at Halliburton and buying companies with so-called asbestos liabilities.

People just don't understand- You can't get things done when you're seeing things you don't want to see.


GravatarThink about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza.

Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion.
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Eat shit Normy.
EkCenTriK


So whatever did happen to Tom Davis?

(Probably the same thing that happened to Garett Morris).


GravatarIf you called someone an asshole who has you on killfile, would it still be considered an insult?


GravatarStop supporting the Demo-Republican war machine.


Gravatar(I regret that I'm too young to have seen him pitch.)
bill buckner


i'm not too young, but still didn't.

i saw the 1960 all star game in kansas city but i don't believe he was there.

drysdale was the dodgers' man at that point.


GravatarThink about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza.


Really! I had no idea. You should tell someone about this.


GravatarI am liveblogging my World of Warcraft game...
George Johnston


Stop that or I'll start liveblogging Travian


Gravatar14 - 10 Chargers!


Gravatar"Think about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza."

I did think that those Israeli soldiers on the front page of HuffPost were sporting smacked-down versions of American military weapons. Hmmm. I wonder how much of taxpayer cash goes into the Israeli military machine?


Gravatar Adam Hominem: So whatever did happen to Tom Davis?

(Probably the same thing that happened to Garett Morris).


He's working as a translator for the hearing impaired?

("Our top story tonight!")
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GravatarDeacon, I was thinking of the $10 cigarettes...
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere | 01.03.09 - 9:27 pm |


Our mayor is not a fan of smoking.

Generally speaking, Manhattan is very expensive now, which is, unfortunately, driving out all the small businesses that create neighborhoods. My shoemaker had to close his shop after 15 years because his rent went through the roof.


GravatarCheney has the opposite of killfile - he wiretaps everything!


GravatarWhat is with the plethora of Nader trolls? Do all sites get them, or are we just lucky?


GravatarWhat is with the plethora of Nader trolls? Do all sites get them, or are we just lucky?
Adam Hominem


kos had first choice and took the ron paul trolls.


GravatarNo one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.


GravatarHe's working as a translator for the hearing impaired?

("Our top story tonight!")
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Classic. It still makes me laugh just to think of it.


Gravatar"Think about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza."

Oh ...here it is in all its unedited glore::

# Total direct aid to Israel, 1948-2003
$89.9 billion (uncorrected for inflation)
# Since 1976 Israel has been the largest annual recipient of US aid. It is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II.
# Direct U.S. aid for each Israeli citizen in 2001 (per capita annual income of Israel = $16,710) -- over $500
# Direct U.S. Aid for each Ethiopian citizen in 2001 (per capita annual income of Ethiopia = $100) -- about $.45
# REGULAR US GRANT AID in FY 2003
$2.76 billion military aid grant
$2.1 billion economic support funds
$600 million refugee resettlement grant
# COMMERCIAL LOAN GUARANTEES IN FY 2003
$2 billion
# BUSH ADMINISTRATION SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST FOR FY 2003
Military aid grant $1 billion
Commercial loan guarantees $9 billion
Arrow missile development $60 million
# TOTAL AID FOR FY 2003 $14.82 billion


GravatarTropic Thunder was excellent, if you're into minstrels...


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drysdale was the dodgers' man at that point.


I hate the modern Dodgers (hello, Steve Garvey!), but am a major fan of the Koufax-era squad (And, of course, Brooklyn...) At Chavez Ravine, people leave during the 5th inning to beat the traffic. Those are not REAL fans!


GravatarSandy Koufax was a marvelous big league pitcher. Fucking threw his arm out, though.


GravatarMontana,

Oh yeah. But if you stop paying taxes they throw you in jail and your wife leaves you. Ha ha.

Sad.

But you get what I'm saying.


GravatarNo one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |


Wanna bet?

After the liberation of Paris in 1944, Picasso began to keep company with a young art student, Françoise Gilot. The two eventually became lovers, and had two children together, Claude and Paloma. Unique among Picasso’s women, Gilot left Picasso in 1953, allegedly because of abusive treatment and infidelities. This came as a severe blow to Picasso.

He went through a difficult period after Gilot’s departure, coming to terms with his advancing age and his perception that, now in his 70s, he was no longer attractive, but rather grotesque to young women. A number of ink drawings from this period explore this theme of the hideous old dwarf as buffoonish counterpoint to the beautiful young girl, including several from a six-week affair with Geneviève Laporte, who in June 2005 auctioned off the drawings Picasso made of her.

Picasso was not long in finding another lover, Jacqueline Roque. She worked at the Madoura Pottery in Vallauris on the French Riviera, where Picasso made and painted ceramics. The two remained together for the rest of Picasso’s life, marrying in 1961. Their marriage was also the means of one last act of revenge against Gilot. Gilot had been seeking a legal means to legitimize her children with Picasso, Claude and Paloma. With Picasso’s encouragement, she had arranged to divorce her then husband, Luc Simon, and marry Picasso to secure her children’s rights. Picasso then secretly married Roque after Gilot had filed for divorce in order to exact his revenge for her leaving him.


GravatarHmmm. I wonder how much of taxpayer cash goes into the Israeli military machine?

It averages about $2.0-2.2 billion per year, plus about $700-800 million for economic development, which the Israeli government mostly uses to start new arms companies for export.

The average amount may be somewhat higher because of loans forgiven by Congress, but, those are harder to track.


GravatarMoe -- most of the Palestinian Christians who can get out have -- I forget how many jumbo jets it would take to remove the remainder -- re: Beit Sahour -- IIRC more Palestinians who were born in Beit Sahour now live in Dearborn, MI than live in Beit Sahour


GravatarHas anybody checked to see if this guy is re-tarded?


GravatarI work hard 9-5 so the US gov't can kill brown people thousands of miles away. My money, your money.


Gravatar"Oh yeah. But if you stop paying taxes they throw you in jail and your wife leaves you. Ha ha.
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Not a tactic in my bag of tricks. I do like to have my county roads plowed and access to law enforcement.


Gravatardrysdale was the dodgers' man at that point.

Drysdale was a huge man. Probably the biggest pitcher to play until then.


Gravatar"Classic. It still makes me laugh just to think of it."

I can't think of many shows since the the mid 80s, if any, that are remembered and quoted as much as SNL from the 70s. But we had what SCTV, Fridays as well as SNL rolling along. Nothing like it since.


GravatarNo one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.

I love the 50s
And I still love the old world...


GravatarBrooklyn Girl-- I can believe you and your so-called "facts," or I can believe Janathan Richman.


GravatarIndy gets the call.


GravatarI bet Bob Gibson was the most feared pitcher during his time.

He had a cannon, and would throw right at you, if he thought you were crowding his plate.


GravatarI thiink fy's lonely. His mom must be out of town.


GravatarMoe -- most of the Palestinian Christians who can get out have -- I forget how many jumbo jets it would take to remove the remainder -- re: Beit Sahour -- IIRC more Palestinians who were born in Beit Sahour now live in Dearborn, MI than live in Beit Sahour
Prior Aelred


Sigh.

I can't tell you how sad that makes me.


GravatarSandy Koufax was a marvelous big league pitcher. Fucking threw his arm out, though.
MP


if you haven't read it, mp, the jane leavy book is a great one. she really tells his story, and it's much bigger than baseball. it's about being a mensch, i think.


GravatarNot a tactic in my bag of tricks. I do like to have my county roads plowed and access to law enforcement.
montanaheadcold


You could withhold the portion of your Federal taxes that goes to Israel. Let's see; call it 3 billion; out of a 3 trillion Federal budget that would be a penny per every ten dollars.


GravatarYeah, double edged sword. You don't pay taxes and poor Americans get hit hard. But some of that dough is siphoned to the international war machine (a la Israel, imperial wars, etc.) You're fucked either way.


GravatarI can't tell you how sad that makes me.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian


Save some pity for the Native Americans in South Dakota. And elsewhere.


Gravatardriving out all the small businesses that create neighborhoods.

Yep - same thing in Beantown. They ruined Kenmore Square. They ruined Harvard Square. They ruined Davis Square. And now they're coming for me!
(OTOH - I was in Manhattan recently, and my (admittedly brief) visit cost me almost nothing. Lunch at 7th Ave. Deli? 15 bucks. Beers at P.J. Clarke's? About the same as they are here. But I didn't have enough time to do any real shopping- where I typically get myself in trouble..)


GravatarI remember a family vacation (tied to a CLE for my ex) in Montreal about maybe 10 years ago, wherein we all went to a Picasso Erotica exhibit at a big museum. It was pretty intense, as he seemed to have been into menstrual blood at the time, and my 10 year old child was of course with us, but we all held up our high standards of art appreciation (but a lot of it looked like the masterpieces junior high boys draw in their notebooks).


GravatarI guess that shoveling wasn't that bad. It's the only time I really get any exercise.


GravatarWas there more wife beating in the 50's than there is today?


GravatarNot a tactic in my bag of tricks. I do like to have my county roads plowed and access to law enforcement.

You have to make a moral choice. Is that more important than the lives of 1.5 million imprisoned people?

We all make different choices and sacrifices. But consider The Other for a moment more. And consider what would happen if the State couldn't count on bribing us...


GravatarI guess that shoveling wasn't that bad. It's the only time I really get any exercise.
AndyMN


Is it still coming down? I have to go pick up the kids at a movie in a few.


GravatarRe: Native Americans -- very true, but at least we haven't started bombing the casinos ...


GravatarI guess that shoveling wasn't that bad. It's the only time I really get any exercise.
AndyMN |


And you saved 2 dollars!
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Gravatar
And you saved 2 dollars!
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It's just me again!




Gravatar
I love the 50s
And I still love the old world...


And there is silence at the Gardner Museum/
It's on The Fenway, where I dream my dreams...


GravatarHas anybody checked to see if this guy is re-tarded?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 9:35 pm | #




GravatarWell, I think I will deal with my problems by killing everyone who disagrees with me - of course that would end my in prison -- unless I ran a country ...


GravatarPosition in queue: 200

Flying out of O'Hare, huh?


GravatarAnd you saved 2 dollars!



Adam, it's sleeting more than anything. Just watch the usual slick spots.


Gravatarunless I ran a country ...
Prior Aelred


If you were a general, you'd get a medal.


GravatarI pay taxes because I'm a fucking wimp. If I didn't the US gov't would jail me like they did to Wesley Snipes. There are some of us who are much more courageous. And they happen to be quite religious. Too bad I'm an agnostic.

Berrigan brothers have ten pound balls!!!


Gravatarstoat:A Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.

wolcott is? really?



Yep. The 'Sage of Baltimore'


GravatarOH! I was at the Gardner before the great theft (they never did find out anything about that, dud they?) -- it was wonderful -- "eclectic" ain't adequate!


GravatarGah, I feel great. It's like no pain in my back at all. Like it never was. Busch Beer is a cure-all. I ain't lying.


GravatarOH! I was at the Gardner before the great theft (they never did find out anything about that, dud they?) -- it was wonderful -- "eclectic" ain't adequate!
Prior Aelred |


Ever been to the Barnes?


GravatarI pay taxes because I'm a fucking wimp. If I didn't the US gov't would jail me like they did to Wesley Snipes. There are some of us who are much more courageous. And they happen to be quite religious. Too bad I'm an agnostic.

Berrigan brothers have ten pound balls!!!
BurpMeAnObamabot


They probably wouldn't put you in jail. That only happens when they can't get the money some other way--like attaching your bank account.

Those of us who withheld our telephone surcharge tax in the Seventies found that out.


GravatarAnd you saved 2 dollars!

What was that movie where this paperboy, I think, keeps following the protagonsist around for his $2 fee.


GravatarStop paying taxes and see what this gov't will do to you.


GravatarI mean, the people in Beit Sahour did what you're *supposed* to do-- non-violent resistance, tax strike, etc. The army rolled in... and all the pro-Israeli Americans who bellowed about non-violence, well, you know, whatever.


GravatarIf you were a general, you'd get a medal.
Adam Hominem | 01.03.09 - 9:46 pm | #

"Oh! Shiny!"


GravatarMP,

Better Off Dead.


GravatarOH! I was at the Gardner before the great theft (they never did find out anything about that, dud they?) -- it was wonderful -- "eclectic" ain't adequate!
Prior Aelred |


The central garden is the best part, if you ask me. But then, I'm a Philistine where art is concerned.


GravatarNo one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |

Wanna bet?
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Brooklyn Girl, shady dame | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 9:34 pm |


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=Sl8sWnUZVL4


Gravatarstoat -

Oops.

That was Mencken.

Here's Wolcott.


GravatarEver been to the Barnes?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 9:47 pm | #

Nope -- been to the Cloisters


GravatarStop paying taxes and see what this gov't will do to you.
BurpMeAnObamabot


You really don't know very much, do you?

There's a difference between not paying and not filing.


GravatarBetter Off Dead.
AndyMN


Oh yeah, where he holds up the boom box in the driveway.


GravatarPrior - I LOVE to taking visiting dignitaries there, so if you're down by the banks of the river Charles, let me know.

Batnes? Dunno it. Brandeis?


GravatarArrested Development marathon in the making... later all.


Gravatarwhere he holds up the boom box in the driveway.

Say Anything.

Cusack in both movies.


GravatarPlus, the Puzzle Palace in MD will know you didn't pay taxes. They know everything, those computer geeks. Hi there, NASA!!!


GravatarGah, I feel great. It's like no pain in my back at all. Like it never was. Busch Beer is a cure-all. I ain't lying.
20¿09 |


You may have a 4th testicle still undescended causing your back problem.