When it is revealed that we have known about Aliens for 61 years will their be any change in the lives of most humans?
spocko
Do wha?
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:21 pm | #
Wow, too cool! Excellent news to read after a mostly shitty day.
Thumper Johnson |
01.03.09 - 7:21 pm | #
I remember when Bill O'Reilly said that if the US didn't find any weapons of mass destruction after our invasion, he would shoot himself in the temple with a Glock, or something like that.
MP |
01.03.09 - 7:22 pm | #
Just wait for him stuttering, trying to get "Senator" out... "S-s-s-se-se-sen-sen-sen... fuck it."
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:22 pm | #
More of the Bush "Legacy".
From the WP The Bush administration appears poised to push through a change in U.S. Forest Service agreements that would make it far easier for mountain forests to be converted to housing subdivisions.
Gimlet |
01.03.09 - 7:22 pm | #
Rats, I was hoping I was the only one getting the Sugar Daddy ad... competition in that field would adversely affect my chances at a 'successful' match...
nick carraway |
01.03.09 - 7:23 pm | #
The Bush administration appears poised to push through a change in U.S. Forest Service agreements that would make it far easier for mountain forests to be converted to housing subdivisions.
That George, always looking out for the environment.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 7:23 pm | #
You Middle Country people take this so seriously. Hell, I remember having SI Hayakawa as a Senator. John Tunney. GEORGE MURPHY for crying out loud. Al Franken? C'mon.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
01.03.09 - 7:24 pm | #
competition in that field would adversely affect my chances at a 'successful' match...
nick carraway
Have at it, my man. No competition from me!
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 7:24 pm | #
And a high and mighty FUCK YOU to the NRSC for running one of the fucking sleziest campaigns in history.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:24 pm | #
I remember when Bill O'Reilly said that if the US didn't find any weapons of mass destruction after our invasion, he would shoot himself in the temple with a Glock, or something like that.
MP |
I recall Sean Hannity saying keeping Nancy Pelosi from becoming Speaker of the House was worth dying for.
I suggested Pelosi promise she wouldn't if Hannity would shoot himself in the head on the air!
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 7:25 pm | #
Poor Sen Cornyn...
NTodd, Trollson
Yes, he might actually have to eat shit and die.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 7:25 pm | #
May I recommend these apple turnovers I've just put into the oven? It's really the way to go for pie, when there's not enough people to eat a whole pie, timely.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
01.03.09 - 7:26 pm | #
Coleman folks at presser: We are prepared to move forward and remedy this lead...it doesn't alter our view that the race will be called for Coleman.
Guessing Coleman hasn't made that call yet congratulating Franken.
Gimlet |
01.03.09 - 7:27 pm | #
I recall Sean Hannity saying keeping Nancy Pelosi from becoming Speaker of the House was worth dying for.
What was Hannity worried about. She's been a much more effective handmaiden to the Bush White House policy that any Republican running for office was willing to be.
MP |
01.03.09 - 7:27 pm | #
Supreme Commander Thor: thanks!
it wouldn't take long for me to be found out, though... bummer, that.
on the other hand, they're most likely Republicans anyway.
nick carraway |
01.03.09 - 7:27 pm | #
When it is revealed that we have known about Aliens for 61 years will their be any change in the lives of most humans?
spocko
Don't aliens still have to register at their local post office every January?
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 7:27 pm | #
Guessing Coleman hasn't made that call yet congratulating Franken.
I'd suggest that Franken not hold his breath.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:28 pm | #
When it is revealed that we have known about Aliens for 61 years will their be any change in the lives of most humans?
spocko
Don't aliens still have to register at their local post office every January?
They file telepathically. Cuts down on standing in line all the time.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 7:28 pm | #
The Bush administration appears poised to push through a change in U.S. Forest Service agreements that would make it far easier for mountain forests to be converted to housing subdivisions.
Because there's so much demand for second houses out in the woods.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:28 pm | #
Cornyn is one of the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:28 pm | #
How much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?
vise |
01.03.09 - 7:32 pm | #
Happy New Year, Echidne. May your socks be whole and warm, your soup and your woodbox always be replenished and your kine and kith happy and content.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
01.03.09 - 7:32 pm | #
Good for Al for staying in and fighting, And fuck the thousand or so liberals who should have shown up to vote, but didn't.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:32 pm | #
Forget that. I wanna see Rush Limbaugh explode!
That's going to require a Superfund cleanup if it happens.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 7:32 pm | #
How much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?
Soros sends him about $70K/mo.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:32 pm | #
That's going to require a Superfund cleanup if it happens.
Supreme Commander Thor
Of a three-state area.
Tread |
01.03.09 - 7:33 pm | #
Happy New Year, Echidne.
Looks like I got back from dinner at the right time. Colemans lawyers are on the live feed now.
aangus: This space for hire. |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:33 pm | #
How much money does Atrios make a year from this popular blog?
ACtually, it's the public's business. As is what every other citizen makes.
vise
er, no.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:35 pm | #
D'oh:
Looks like I got back from dinner at the right time. Colemans lawyers are on the live feed now, lying their asses off.
aangus: This space for hire.
Tread |
01.03.09 - 7:36 pm | #
HBK, I put Cornyn in the "too stupid to breathe on his own" category.
Norm Coleman's up there, and Jim Bunting, and probably numerous others not mentioned here
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 7:37 pm | #
Jeez - Oh! I'll say.
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It's just me again!
i thought the vid function would just be a crappy little add on.
the camera is only 2700, it's a freak'n steal.
charley |
01.03.09 - 7:37 pm | #
{{{{Sallyh}}}}
Frickin' cold here in Mo-ray-all!
aangus: This space for hire. |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:37 pm | #
Hecate - did you see my request that your landscaper include a rill in your plans? You'd like a rill. Miss Thing would like one. Even the bunnies would like one.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
01.03.09 - 7:38 pm | #
"That's SENATOR Franken, numbnuts Coleman!"
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:42 pm | #
Ohh free government money!?!?!?
i want some.
R2K |
The Snorgtee girls are visiting me at the moment.
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 7:42 pm | #
"Get fifty thousand dollars just for opening a coffee shop!!!!!!"
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:42 pm | #
Diane, indeed it is.
So far, 2009 is shaping up rather nicely.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 7:42 pm | #
I think we need more adds in the middle of the blog. : )
R2K
Or just more blogwhoring to ridiculously long posts about Happy New Year!
(My good mood compels me to be honest!)
Rmj, Xmas Theologist |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:43 pm | #
Hey Atriots,
I just watched Kit Kitredge, American Girl and believe it or not, its a nice movie to teach your kids a bit about the Great Depression. Even my 10 and 13 year old boys enjoyed it.
It is not a product placement ad at all.
One thing in it that struck my attention was the bank that forecloses on one of the houses is "Liberal Savings and Loan". It does appear that such an institution existed according to the Google.
There are a few school mates in the movie that really stick out like nasty Republicans. My kids recognized a few of their right wing friends in the movie.
Bluto W Bush |
01.03.09 - 7:43 pm | #
And keep ur woodbox full!
Yup. I haz apple wood from a tree that died. It scents up the whole room.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:43 pm | #
REDBIRDS WIN!
Go on, go on...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:43 pm | #
Everybody keep warm and nice this winter.
Now you tell me. Too late.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:44 pm | #
Everybody keep warm and nice this winter.
Got up to 81 today, so thanks, I'm fine.
You can leave the wood in the forest for me.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:44 pm | #
trifecta, how does that work out in quatloos?
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 7:44 pm | #
Is it too soon to be tired of being cold?
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:44 pm | #
At least Bush is helping to raise money for the arts:
81 what?
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 7:44 pm | #
Not really.
Explain. Which ammendment to the constitution makes that possible and how would it be different under socialism? And if you're sympathetic to socialism, and in fact believe in the notion of a larger public commons and sphere, and if that belief is based on what you believe the economic reality about the world is, then why should property be married to privacy?
And if your belief(that what he makes is private) is based on a constitutional protection, wouldn't that same protection limit the very scope of any future socialism in America.
vise |
01.03.09 - 7:45 pm | #
I have an additional suggestion for making Bill O'Reilly's head asplode:
Oh, my yard's too little for rill. And Miss Thing isn't allowed outside. We are getting ready to tear up the concrete walk and put in nice, big, flat stones, though.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:45 pm | #
Got up to 81 today, so thanks, I'm fine.
You can leave the wood in the forest for me.
I spent the week in a house with temperature set at 60 degrees...
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:45 pm | #
Great to have a senator who isn't afraid to call a liar a liar.
Troutski, hfm |
01.03.09 - 7:45 pm | #
Which ammendment to the constitution makes that possible and how would it be different under socialism? And if you're sympathetic to socialism, and in fact believe in the notion of a larger public commons and sphere, and if that belief is based on what you believe the economic reality about the world is, then why should property be married to privacy?
And if your belief(that what he makes is private) is based on a constitutional protection, wouldn't that same protection limit the very scope of any future socialism in America.
vise
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:46 pm | #
Is it too soon to be tired of being cold?
NO!
aangus: This space for hire. |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:46 pm | #
Geez... I can't go lower than 66°F (what it's on, now).
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:47 pm | #
and if that belief is based on what you believe the economic reality about the world is, then why should property be married to privacy?
I didn't even know they were dating!
Rmj, Xmas Theologist |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:47 pm | #
RMJ, it's been in the 30s at night here in the Southland.
Which is, by L.A. standards, too cold for living things.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 7:47 pm | #
MP, Where?
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
Normally I keep the heat set at 60, though.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist
Does it ever get down to 60 in Houston?
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
We had a really long summer, so I am thankful for winter. We basically went Winter, 3 weeks of spring, then summer this year. Hit the 90's in early May.
trifecta |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
Sallyh, are you home from your transcontinental wanderings?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
If it gets much colder here, I'm gonna build a fire in teh fireplace.
I have a new fireplace screen on order. As soon as it comes, I'm going to make a fire in the fireplace.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
Makes what possible? Knowing what Atrios makes? None of them. Not even the 16th.
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
MP, Where?
res ipsa loquitur
Va Beach. Upper 30's. No kind of weather for my Speedo.
MP |
01.03.09 - 7:49 pm | #
I think someone put vise's head in a vise.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:49 pm | #
It's so cold, my olive oil is frozen. However cold that is.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:49 pm | #
Does it ever get down to 60 in Houston?
Adam Hominem
Mid-60's is the average high for this time of year.
I have a photo of my house (by a previous owner) blanketed in snow. And know older people (in their 80's-90's) who remember snow as a regular winter feature.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:49 pm | #
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne | Homepage
I believe a celebratory cocktail is in order here at Chez Rowsdower, or what ever the hell you wanna call it.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:50 pm | #
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne
I don't tell people what I make, because they either laugh, or show pity.
trifecta |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:50 pm | #
I think Atrios should release his tax returns after Cindy McCain releases hers. And he's running for office.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:50 pm | #
Someone toss a match into the Straw Man. We need the warmth, and we don't need him.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 7:50 pm | #
It's so cold, my olive oil is frozen.
No flirting!
aangus: This space for hire. |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:50 pm | #
And know older people (in their 80's-90's) who remember snow as a regular winter feature.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist
I had no idea.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 7:50 pm | #
I believe a celebratory cocktail is in order here at Chez Rowsdower, or what ever the hell you wanna call it.
I don't tell people what I make, because they either laugh, or show pity.
True dat. You could always lie.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:51 pm | #
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
My response to that is, less than those in my department who just happen to have dicks.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 7:51 pm | #
Penumbra. It's a penumbra.
Tell that to Scalia and Roberts! I'm pretty sure they hate Griswold as much as Roe...
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:51 pm | #
I believe a celebratory cocktail is in order here at Chez Rowsdower, or what ever the hell you wanna call it.
AndyMN
We all deserve one. Or at least a big sigh of relief.
But maybe that should wait till the vote total is certified.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 7:51 pm | #
Good news???
Senator Franken!
(not the other kind of good news, but light a candle)
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:51 pm | #
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
In NY, people will volunteer that...
(a) They see a shrink
(b) How much they paid for their apartment
(c) In what position they prefer to screw their SO
(d) What, if any, STDs they have
But if you ask them how much money they make, they freak the fuck out.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:52 pm | #
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Part of our "classless" fiction. If I don't know how much you make, we can assume we're equals (all other things being equal).
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:52 pm | #
but light a candle
Will do so right now.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:52 pm | #
You can't make this stuff up.
"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."
And know older people (in their 80's-90's) who remember snow as a regular winter feature.
Rmj, Xmas Theologist
I bought a book of old pictures (1890-1920) of Norfolk recently.
They used to skate on the Elizabeth River back then.
Good luck doing that now.
MP |
01.03.09 - 7:52 pm | #
Amanda Marcotte, via FB:
Announcer on NFL game: "Pat Tillman is what we hope players can be." Me: "Murdered by their fellow Americans?"
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:53 pm | #
I make $900,000 a year! Non profits pay really well for case workers!
trifecta |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:53 pm | #
It's so cold, my olive oil is frozen.
Believe it or not there IS an MSDS (Materials Safety Data Sheet) for Olive Oil.
Melting Point -6 C , 21 F
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 7:53 pm | #
If I don't know how much you make, we can assume we're equals (all other things being equal).
NTodd, Trollson
I make no such assumption.
cosmic tumbler |
01.03.09 - 7:53 pm | #
see, trifecta? That's how you do it.
I make about a thousand from my blog. It costs about two thousand to run.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:54 pm | #
Slice some cream for your coffee.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:55 pm | #
The big run-up in commodities (both ends, product & input) the last year or so meant I handled a ton of money, in one hand and out the other in a blur... but the bottom line wasn't much different.
nick carraway |
01.03.09 - 7:55 pm | #
They will also tell you what all their neighbors paid for their apartments, the current market value of those apartments, and how badly the neighbor will get screwed when they have to sell.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:55 pm | #
If someone asks how much you make, be sure to include health insurance and pension benefits for people who used to work for your company who retired years ago.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:56 pm | #
That's so cold, it makes my nutsack shrink just reading it.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 7:56 pm | #
If someone asks how much you make, be sure to include health insurance and pension benefits for people who used to work for your company who retired years ago.
Culture of TrÜth
When the fire is going, we kind of huddle around the fire, and the rest of the house gets sorta cold. I had no idea it was *that* cold, however.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:57 pm | #
Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007
Those fucking ballots of mass destruction...
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 7:57 pm | #
I make $900,000 a year! Non profits pay really well for case workers!
trifecta |
As cold as the dark Winter gets, every April I spring forth as a brand new, refreshed middle-aged man.
MP |
01.03.09 - 7:59 pm | #
As cold as the dark Winter gets, every April I spring forth as a brand new, refreshed middle-aged man.
You peel off the vests and the thermal underwear and the long johns and the crust of the winter....
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:00 pm | #
MP, and we wouldn't want you any other way
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:01 pm | #
Part of our "classless" fiction. If I don't know how much you make, we can assume we're equals (all other things being equal).
NTodd, Trollson
i remember when i photographed this girl. she was from switzerland, i couldn't swear to it, but i think she had money, she seemed a little astounded how obvious our class distinctions were.
charley |
01.03.09 - 8:01 pm | #
"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."
"Since the Republican illegal takeover of the White House, the US spends $600 billion a year on 'defense' while 45 million Americans have no health insurance.
George Bush has demonstrated that he has no intention of serving the American people."
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 8:01 pm | #
$ what ever, trucker
If you make like more than 150k a year, you are the problem.
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bluesman,Atlatlcommandoloon |
01.03.09 - 8:02 pm | #
At least the football commentators didn't disappear Pat Tillman. Someone can google him and find out the truth, or as much of it as we can get. Damn, I wish he wasn't dead. We really needed his testimony. Plus, he wouldn't be dead.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:02 pm | #
Maybe my celebration was premature. From the Strib:
Under state law, an election certificate formally naming a winner cannot be issued until all legal disputes are resolved.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:02 pm | #
Sallyh, I received a letter addressed to "RESIDENT" informing me that the US Public Health Services, Office of Applied Science, had randomly selected my address for a survey to be taken for Research Triangle Institute "Project 2009". We will be given $30 cash if we answer the questions.
I googled and found one of the signed names in the RTI site.
This just seems weird. Thoughts?
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 8:03 pm | #
The Uptake is such a cool site.
I might have to visit Minnesota.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:04 pm | #
Id BORes haid splodes will anything fly out?
BedBug |
01.03.09 - 8:04 pm | #
Under state law, an election certificate formally naming a winner cannot be issued until all legal disputes are resolved.
So we could get lots of people to sue over the election and keep all votes unresolved forever? Clearly there's some limitation...
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:04 pm | #
their is a whole new al thread.
that's how atrios does it.
charley |
01.03.09 - 8:04 pm | #
"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."
Wunnerful, George. Another example of your brain in action.
Gee, no mention that Israel is still collecting taxes for Palestinians, and that they've been withholding most of those taxes ever since Hamas won the election--and has been trying their damnedest to prevent international aid organizations and other countries from providing aid or loans.
A little truth would go a long way.
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:04 pm | #
I make near the maximum amount of money that I can keep track of.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:05 pm | #
Right now I'm making two things: Jack and shit. And Jack left town.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:05 pm | #
C'mon by, HBK!
NTodd,
It specifically has to be called an "election contest". If it's not, than the SoS can certify. Not sure if that's even the legal distinction...just glossing over the Strib article.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:06 pm | #
I honestly don't know how much I make.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:06 pm | #
Sallyh, I received a letter addressed to "RESIDENT" informing me that the US Public Health Services, Office of Applied Science, had randomly selected my address for a survey to be taken for Research Triangle Institute "Project 2009". We will be given $30 cash if we answer the questions.
I googled and found one of the signed names in the RTI site.
This just seems weird. Thoughts?
Deacon Blues
i had a woman come to my door, same organization, "thanks, but no thanks", then they mailed me a letter, then she came again, same answer, then they called me... same answer.
the letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?
charley |
01.03.09 - 8:08 pm | #
It specifically has to be called an "election contest". If it's not, than the SoS can certify.
Ah, so Norm will have to contest the results of the election officially?
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:08 pm | #
It's the last taboo topic in this country, how much someone makes. I learned that by asking people.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 7:48 pm | #
As a perfesser at Piss-Ant U, my salary actually is public record. Finding the copy of the salaries is a bit of a trick, but it's available.
mto3 |
01.03.09 - 8:08 pm | #
Our salaries are automatically deposited, and our recurrent bills are automatically paid, and my wife and I can punch numbers into an ATM, and cash comes out.
This could have happened in the new democracy of Iraq if we didn't control the free press.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/...nge-
deaths.html The bodies of a senior Hamas leader's small children were today ghoulishly paraded through the streets of Gaza as the group pledged to avenge their deaths.
Nizar Rayan, his four wives and 10 of his children were all killed by in an Israeli air strike on his home after he ignored warnings they should go into hiding.
In grisly scenes, mourners held up the bloodied bodies of the children to the cameras in a clear attempt to blacken Israel's name and highlight its brutality.
Rummy |
01.03.09 - 8:09 pm | #
Deacon, I'm not familiar with the survey, but it's entirely possible that you were randomly selected. Payment of a modest nature is not uncommon.
I will have to check out Project 2009.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:09 pm | #
"Since Hamas's violent takeover in the summer of 2007, living conditions have worsened for Palestinians in Gaza. By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people."
"Roads". The Israelis use US tax dollars to build roads that only Israelis are allowed to drive on.
"Schools" The 'American School' in Gaza was leveled by Israeli artillery.
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 8:09 pm | #
Ah, so Norm will have to contest the results of the election officially?
That's how it's sounding.
The MN Supreme Court has ruled against him on every challenge, thus far. Pretty much spitting in the wind, at this point.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:10 pm | #
the letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?
charley
This letter wasn't that forthcoming, just saying it is conducting a study on "health-related issues"
Rather Big-brotherishly entitled "RTI Project No. 9009" (which I did not find with teh Google).
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 8:10 pm | #
Maybe my celebration was premature. From the Strib:
Under state law, an election certificate formally naming a winner cannot be issued until all legal disputes are resolved.
Coleman has an emergency petition pending. Now, if the court were to make a decision before Monday morning, or early Monday morning, and Coleman's petition did not prevail, there would be no suits pending.
Coleman's only hope at this point is to have something ready the moment his petition is denied, before the results can be certified. I doubt seriously that either the election board or the courts will have much patience with future last-ditch efforts by Coleman to delay the inevitable.
Now, it's a matter of timing.
montag |
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01.03.09 - 8:10 pm | #
Has Bill O'reilly dropped dead yet?
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:10 pm | #
The MN Supreme Court has ruled against him on every challenge, thus far. Pretty much spitting in the wind, at this point.
AndyMN | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 8:10 pm | #
I hope he escalates to pissing into the wind.
mto3 |
01.03.09 - 8:11 pm | #
Dinner! Back later.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 8:11 pm | #
Rummy | 01.03.09 - 8:09 pm
Chripes, talk about one-sided reports.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:12 pm | #
Ah, so Norm will have to contest the results of the election officially?
That's how it's sounding.
Norm Coleman, Sniveling Loser.
Like school in the summertime Norm. No class.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:12 pm | #
Deacon, let me do some legwork on it before you get involved.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:12 pm | #
I remember when Bill O'Reilly said that if the US didn't find any weapons of mass destruction after our invasion, he would shoot himself in the temple with a Glock, or something like that.
MP
There was no shortage of people who would have gladly done it for him.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:12 pm | #
Breaking: Coleman files suit with request to "turn those machines back on."
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.03.09 - 8:12 pm | #
Everyone is forgetting that John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell will make Harry Reid cry.
Karatist Preacher |
01.03.09 - 8:13 pm | #
I will have to check out Project 2009.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
Thanks. It seemed strange to me that they would pay *cash* for interviews.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 8:13 pm | #
Coleman's only hope at this point is to have something ready the moment his petition is denied, before the results can be certified. I doubt seriously that either the election board or the courts will have much patience with future last-ditch efforts by Coleman to delay the inevitable.
The court hasn't even indicated that they'll hear his latest gripe. They (Coleman's folks) wanted to stop the counting today because of that.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:13 pm | #
i had a woman come to my door, same organization, "thanks, but no thanks", then they mailed me a letter, then she came again, same answer, then they called me... same answer.
the letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?
It's a tricky problem to study, because it's important that the people who refuse to participate in a study are not different from those who agree to participate. If they are then the study may not be applicable to everybody (you want the sample to be representative of the universe). So researchers often go to extreme lengths to try to persuade refusers to take part or to establish if they otherwise look like those who don't refuse. But I can see that it's annoying.
Echidne |
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01.03.09 - 8:13 pm | #
Has Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:14 pm | #
Norm Coleman, Sniveling Loser.
I'm sorry, the AP style manual allows "sniveling loser" to be used only when referring to Democrats.
In the future, please refer to Republicans as "Heroic Manly Men."
mto3 |
01.03.09 - 8:14 pm | #
In the future, please refer to Republicans as "Heroic Manly Men."
mto3
Fuck that - they're whiney ass titty babies.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:14 pm | #
Has Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
I think Harry's going to give him a BJ on the way out of the office. For all the good work Norm's done.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:15 pm | #
Has Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker
He has to OK it with Lieberman first.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:15 pm | #
CSpan 3 - some wingnut conference from 2007. Sounds like all the assholes are there.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:15 pm | #
Strib:
The Franken campaign, Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and various county officials filed responses with the Supreme Court by Saturday morning, with Franken, Ritchie and Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman all arguing forcefully against the Coleman petition. They said the process for identifying wrongly rejected absentee ballots had worked as intended and should be completed.
The Franken brief argued that the Coleman campaign had missed deadlines to request reconsideration of additional ballots, and added that all rejected absentee ballots have now been reviewed at least twice by local officials.
But it appeared that the rules for handling added ballots were understood and applied differently from one county to another. While officials in Hennepin, Ramsey and Rice counties said they had refused to consider additional ballots, officials in Anoka and Pipestone counties said they had done so, even without agreement from the campaigns.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:15 pm | #
Everyone is forgetting that John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell will make Harry Reid cry.
They made Harry promise that he wouldn't seat that nasty Senator from Illinois...
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:15 pm | #
Nizar Rayan, his four wives and 10 of his children were all killed by in an Israeli air strike on his home after he ignored warnings they should go into hiding.
It's called "Blaming the Victim(s)"
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:16 pm | #
Deacon, that's not the odd part to me.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:16 pm | #
Has Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker
Right after his Stevens standing ovation as he triumphantly leaves the Senate chambers.
Gimlet |
01.03.09 - 8:17 pm | #
Has Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
I think Harry's going to give him a BJ on the way out of the office. For all the good work Norm's done.
Supreme Commander Thor
Thanks. It seemed strange to me that they would pay *cash* for interviews.
Not unknown. I was asked to participate in a survey paid for by a drug company, regarding health care use and access. Paid me $30, because it took almost two hours to go through the questionnaire by phone.
They got an earful, and I got $30.
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:17 pm | #
Don't aliens still have to register at their local post office every January?
.
The local post office just beamed mine in. Should arrive in about 2 million years.
M31 |
01.03.09 - 8:18 pm | #
the letter indicated they wanted to know about my drug usage. wtf?
It's a tricky problem to study, because it's important that the people who refuse to participate in a study are not different from those who agree to participate. If they are then the study may not be applicable to everybody (you want the sample to be representative of the universe). So researchers often go to extreme lengths to try to persuade refusers to take part or to establish if they otherwise look like those who don't refuse. But I can see that it's annoying.
Echidne
Well, I'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to tell an agent of the federal government about any extra-legal drug use. I don't need $30 that bad. Either that or I just say, no ma'am, never touched em, and get the money.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 8:18 pm | #
"Well, he hasn't got shit all over him."
M31 |
01.03.09 - 8:19 pm | #
I think all these crazy surveys people are getting these days are somehow tied into Ross Perot.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 8:19 pm | #
It's a tricky problem to study, because it's important that the people who refuse to participate in a study are not different from those who agree to participate.
Echidne
without your expertise, i pretty much understood that.
but i have a federal job, no way i'm answering those kind of questions. and the woman did not reveal what the questions would be about my drug usage on the first go around.
and while i'd like to make 30 dollars an hour for talking about me, you're going to have to give me a lot more than an hour.
i don't know how you could set this up without bias. tricky.
charley |
01.03.09 - 8:19 pm | #
Is this an indication we're going to start up another drug usage thread?
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:20 pm | #
Is this an indication we're going to start up another drug usage thread?
Supreme Commander Thor
I'm still crashing from last night's LSD.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:21 pm | #
Has Harry Reid had Norm over for his consolation dinner yet?
DuaneV,Wanker
He has to OK it with Lieberman first.
MP
I hear Joe Lieberman wrote a sternly - worded letter advising Harry Reid of his options regarding Bloggy's Senatorial Appointee...
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:21 pm | #
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
King of the who?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:22 pm | #
Supreme Commander!
Not that that would be a bad thing
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:22 pm | #
SallyH, have finished off that NY Cheesecake yet?
Its been, what, 36 hours?
Never in human history has a cheesecake lasted that long.
Also, I just recalled I owe you a small stack of DVDs with all sorts of BBC/British programs about medieval history.
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est! |
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01.03.09 - 8:22 pm | #
And if your belief(that what he makes is private) is based on a constitutional protection, wouldn't that same protection limit the very scope of any future socialism in America.
vise
No, idjit-boy.
Look up the difference between "private property" and "personal property" in Marxism.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 8:22 pm | #
Coleman has to fight this to the death because he's going to be about as employable as Abu G. when it's all over.
res ipsa loquitur |
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01.03.09 - 8:23 pm | #
I put Cornyn in the "too stupid to breathe on his own" category.
Norm Coleman's up there, and Jim Bunting, and probably numerous others not mentioned here
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
Imhofe
Coburn
Sessions
O'Connell
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:23 pm | #
"Well, he hasn't got shit all over him."
M31
"Kiss the hem of my raiment!"
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:23 pm | #
Not that that would be a bad thing
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
Isn't Coleman in the middle of some corruption scandal anyway? You'd think the GOPers would want him to go away.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:24 pm | #
{{{Chris}}}
Oh, that cheesecake was gone within minutes of purchase.
And thank you so much for getting Maddy a gift--it really has made my holiday.
I've had this irrational fear as of late; my da passed on at 54. I'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:24 pm | #
Remember when George Galloway ripped Coleman at that hearing?
Good times!
res ipsa loquitur |
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01.03.09 - 8:24 pm | #
What's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:25 pm | #
Isn't Coleman in the middle of some corruption scandal anyway? You'd think the GOPers would want him to go away.
Oh, yeah, he most certainly is. But, as so often stated, the rules are different from party to party. IAOKIYAR.
montag |
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01.03.09 - 8:25 pm | #
Someone toss a match into the Straw Man. We need the warmth, and we don't need him.
Deacon Blues
(hands DB the gasoline can)
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:25 pm | #
I took a photograph of a [removes sunglasses] bird! [replaces sunglasses]
Remember when George Galloway ripped Coleman at that hearing?
*sniff*
That was be-yoo-T-ful!
Now Norm can go back to being the dumpster diver that he really was born to be.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:26 pm | #
Isn't Coleman in the middle of some corruption scandal anyway? You'd think the GOPers would want him to go away.
The Old Man From Scene 24
No, no no...Silly little things like laws are for democrats...
Of course, Harry Reid would sell out his own mother for a nickel...
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:26 pm | #
War blows chunks. We've been fighting over plots of lands for thousands of years and where has it gotten us? Well, the human race will be obliterated because of global warming. Our "plague" on this fine earth will soon end. Thank god. Then the earth can regenerate without us.
Coleman or Franken Smalley? The two party system still sucks crap/
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:26 pm | #
sallyh:
I have a feeling you will be around to see the asshole former SIL buried.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:26 pm | #
Is this an indication we're going to start up another drug usage thread?
NONONO, THAT WILL GIVE THE RIGHT MYSTICAL POWERS OVER US!
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:27 pm | #
See what happens when you have all that dry powder stored up. Dianne Feinstein with her FIRST WSJ editorial scolding Dubya on his way out the door.
When Barack Obama becomes America's 44th president on Jan. 20, he should embrace the vision of a predecessor who declared: "We seek the total elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth."
That president was Ronald Reagan, and he expressed this ambitious vision in his second inaugural address on Jan. 21, 1985.
Unfortunately, for eight years the Bush administration moved in another direction, pushing aggressive policies and new weapons programs, threatening to reopen the nuclear door and spark the very proliferation we seek to prevent.
President Bush made it the policy of the United States to contemplate first use of nuclear weapons in response to chemical or biological attack -- even against nonnuclear states.
Mr. Bush then sought funding for new weapons programs, including:
- A 100-kiloton "bunker buster" that scientists say would not destroy enemy bunkers as advertised, but would have spewed enough radiation to kill one million people.
- The Advanced Concepts Initiative, including developing a low-yield nuclear weapon for tactical battlefield use.
- The Modern Pit Facility, a factory that could produce up to 450 plutonium triggers a year -- even though scientists say America's nuclear triggers will be good for years.
- Pushing to reduce time-to-test readiness at the Nevada Test Site in half -- to 18 months -- signaling intent to resume testing, which would have broken a test moratorium in place since 1992.
- A new nuclear warhead, called the Reliable Replacement Warhead, which could spark a new global arms race.
Gimlet |
01.03.09 - 8:28 pm | #
NONONO, THAT WILL GIVE THE RIGHT MYSTICAL POWERS OVER US!
NTodd, Trollson
They only do prescription drugs.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:28 pm | #
Someone Obama could have appointed to his National Security team. AND she's Jewish:
By Phyllis Bennis
Institute for Policy Studies
28 December 2008
The death toll in Gaza continues to rise. The carnage is everywhere – city streets, a
mosque, hospitals, police stations, a jail, a university bus stop, a plastics factory, a
television station. It seems impossible, unacceptable, to step back to analyze the situation
while bodies remain buried under the rubble, while parents continue to search for their
missing children, while doctors continue to labor to stitch burned and broken bodies back
together without sufficient medicine or equipment. The hospitals are running short even
of electricity—the Israeli blockade has denied them fuel to run the generators. It is an
ironic twist on the legacy of Israel’s involvement in an earlier massacre – in the Sabra
and Shatila camps, in Lebanon back in 1982, it was the Israeli soldiers who lit the flairs,
lighting the night sky so their Lebanese allies could continue to kill. http://gazasiege.org/docs/
gaza_c..._12_28_2008.pdf
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:28 pm | #
I'm going to have another drink because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh-darn it, people LIKE me!
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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01.03.09 - 8:28 pm | #
If you're a democrat, the mere hint of wrong - doing gets you impeached, or forced out of office. If you're a repig, congressional subpoenas may be ignored.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:28 pm | #
What's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?
56 Dems, 1 Bernie Sanders, 1 sniveling putz and 42 Pukes I think.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:29 pm | #
I've had this irrational fear as of late; my da passed on at 54. I'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?
And, despite the discomfiture implicit in it, your mother is still alive....
Seems to me you could just as easily imagine your longevity mirroring hers as your da's relative lack of it. Hmm?
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:29 pm | #
Terry C, well, he is Hep C+, and deteriorating (or claims to be).
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:29 pm | #
Powers Boothe has a weird name.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:30 pm | #
Bush will bomb. Obama will bomb. What's the difference? Defenseless kids still die in the end.
Fuck war and fuck the asshole pols who start them.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:30 pm | #
59-41, right?
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:30 pm | #
Terry C: I have a feeling you will be around to see the asshole former SIL buried.
May the FSM make it So.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.03.09 - 8:30 pm | #
What's the senate split gonna be when Franken wraps this bad boy up?
56 Dems, 1 Bernie Sanders, 1 sniveling putz and 42 Pukes I think.
That count would include Burris.
DJ |
01.03.09 - 8:30 pm | #
Terry C, well, he is Hep C+, and deteriorating (or claims to be).
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
Hopefully,nature will take its course.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:30 pm | #
NONONO, THAT WILL GIVE THE RIGHT MYSTICAL POWERS OVER US!
NTodd, Trollson
No, it just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:31 pm | #
59-41, right?
res ipsa loquitur
Reid couldn't run an effectibe Senate if it was 99-1.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:31 pm | #
Drugs?
Someone fire me over some AC&C
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 8:31 pm | #
59-41, right?
Not necessarily, because it depends on what happens in Illinois and New York.
And Colorado is looking to be a fucking throw-away, thanks to the gov, sadly.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
01.03.09 - 8:31 pm | #
'm 53 now. I had this recurring nightmare of, what if I died and never saw Maddy again?
Nah-nah, macushla, this isn't going to happen. I -know-. Hecate'll back me up - the Sight tells me that you'll be back with your darling, you'll be with your family and home. There's naught but a might of sadness between now and then, no horrors, no dreadful things. Just a bit of being sorry for not seeing the Dear One, and that soon remedied and happiness restored. I promise, dearie, macushla, I -promise-.
I know that it's an irrational fear, but for some reason, that didn't stop it from cropping up.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:33 pm | #
That count would include Burris.
DJ
Over Harry Reid's dead body.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:33 pm | #
it just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...
And we should care what THEY think WHY?
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:33 pm | #
what's up with the ted stevens seat?
Begich.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:33 pm | #
well we know better than to expect that all the Dem Senators would be good ones.
Wiki says 55 Dems, 2 independents, 1 undecided (Senator Franken) and 1 vacant (IL).
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:33 pm | #
what's up with the ted stevens seat?
It's not called that any more.
montag |
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01.03.09 - 8:34 pm | #
And then there's Lieber-fuck, and Bernie.
Bernie trumps all Dem senators, except for Boxer, Kennedy, and Kerry, imo.
Don't get me going....I just chewed out an elderly gentleman who was treating a waitress in a very condescending, rude manner, almost as if she were his slave.
Asshole men who treat women like shit don't sit well with me, sorry.
/takes blood pressure
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
01.03.09 - 8:34 pm | #
How did Reid get the majority leader gig anyhow? Was it based on the palest complexion?
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:34 pm | #
Over Harry Reid's dead body.
Is the NV Gov a Democrat?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:34 pm | #
The very tiny "pop" sound you heard was Erick Erickson's head exploding.
Stunt Woman |
01.03.09 - 8:35 pm | #
I know that it's an irrational fear, but for some reason, that didn't stop it from cropping up.
It's still a fear. And something that may have had the possibility of happening, at one point.
Fear is fear. And when it comes to the smallest, most innocent among us, we are super-fretful. Completely justified.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:35 pm | #
I know that it's an irrational fear, but for some reason, that didn't stop it from cropping up.
Of course, dearie, of course. But the links are strong and they are true and you are as well. All you have to do is breathe, open your heart, open your mind and you'll be safe as houses. Soon now.
It's going to be spending a lot of time in the recliner that his friend left at his remodeled house years ago.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 8:35 pm | #
it just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...
I'll take that over murderous corrupt fundie psycho any day of the week.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:35 pm | #
Don't get me going....I just chewed out an elderly gentleman who was treating a waitress in a very condescending, rude manner, almost as if she were his slave.
Asshole men who treat women like shit don't sit well with me, sorry.
/takes blood pressure
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Calm down, dear - you done good!
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:35 pm | #
Proud to be a fucking tree hugger. The earth is more important than anything else. Will Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:36 pm | #
I'll take that over murderous corrupt fundie psycho SEXUAL DEVIANT any day of the week.
DuaneV,Wanker
That needed a little extra.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:36 pm | #
Right on time . . . the Troll Express pulls into the station
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:37 pm | #
sallyh, I will chime in with reasurances. Also, anyone who's had a parent die early gets creeped out when approaching the same age. It's just a human thing. Nothing dispositive or premonitiony about it.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:37 pm | #
Will Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.
I hope it's 20. By then, I'll have just enough not to be able to retire.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:37 pm | #
I'll take that over murderous corrupt fundie psycho SEXUAL DEVIANT any day of the week.
yeah no shit. The wingnuts ought to think more about how they are currently perceived than about their sorry stereotypes of others.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:37 pm | #
The interesting thing about drugs is that they were a part of the counterculture, which is integral in resistance where you try to undermine the existing social order. Dunno if that would count as a heterotopic site or not, but seems like it could be...
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:37 pm | #
I revere the elderly. I don't like chewing them out, even if I did it in the nicest way. The old guy apologized, but not after it made a 50 year old woman cry.
What a fucking asshole. It's not like she put the mayonnaise on his sandwich.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
01.03.09 - 8:37 pm | #
Will Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.
The earth will survive this foolish species.
Shared Humanity |
01.03.09 - 8:39 pm | #
Is the NV Gov a Democrat?
The Old Man From Scene 24
Jim Gibbons - Repig
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 8:39 pm | #
Obama is a fraud like every other pol. Used car salesman. Abbie Hoffman was right---"They're too strong."
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:39 pm | #
oh look, fy has re-incarnated.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 8:40 pm | #
Will Obama save the earth? Scientists say we have 10-20 years to save it.
The earth will survive this foolish species.
Civilizations come and go.
But Earth Abides.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:40 pm | #
Obama is a fraud like every other pol.
Said the wise critic, after the man has had -1 months in office.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:40 pm | #
oh look, fy has re-incarnated.
JR, kerosene and a match
Either that or someone needs to take a chill pill, have a drink or smoke a joint.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:40 pm | #
"Don't get me going....I just chewed out an elderly gentleman who was treating a waitress in a very condescending, rude manner, almost as if she were his slave."
Well done!
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est! |
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01.03.09 - 8:41 pm | #
I see the drum circle is missing a finger-cymbal player...
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:41 pm | #
TV guys are talking like Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band are bigger than the Apocolypse. And it's happening February 1 OMG.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:41 pm | #
Hate to have to go back to Firefox because it shows haloscan down for me, but I am not putting up with the mouthbreathers tonight.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:41 pm | #
{{{Montag}}}
How's your Saturday?
I'm crossing my fingers for Senator Franken
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:41 pm | #
I don't like chewing them out, even if I did it in the nicest way.
daughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.
I think the fetus thing is really a means to an end for many fundies and conservatives, who really want to control women, limit sexuality in teens, and enshrine the traditional Prager family model (men work, women appreciate it in every way).
peterb oy |
01.03.09 - 8:41 pm | #
Said the wise critic, after the man has had -1 months in office.
-15 days, 32 minutes, 10 seconds.
Not that I'm counting or anything
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:42 pm | #
Hey, no offense...but if Obama cared he'd condemn what's happening in Gaza. It's just evil, man.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:42 pm | #
Don't ask me to arm-wrestle a fetus. I hate when that happens.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:43 pm | #
ooops, -16 days, 15 hours, 31 minutes 48 seconds.
Simles regrets.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.03.09 - 8:43 pm | #
rights of fetuses
WTF!
A clump of cells don't HAVE rights.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:43 pm | #
daughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the
abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.
Don't ask me to arm-wrestle a fetus. I hate when that happens.
It's not so much the fetus' rights you have to watch, but their lefts. Wicked uppercuts!
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:44 pm | #
The RedState Strike Force now has its own awesome badge!
Available now as an iron-on patch in every box of Wingnutters, the breakfast cereal for conservatards.
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01.03.09 - 8:44 pm | #
I think the fetus thing is really a means to an end for many fundies and conservatives, who really want to control women, limit sexuality in teens, and enshrine the traditional Prager family model (men work, women appreciate it in every way).
peterb oy
IF the men can even find jobs in this economy.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:44 pm | #
daughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.
peterb oy
Ya know, biology aside, I'm a bit of a bastard this way. I don't think young children have rights, so it would be impossible for fetuses to have rights, IMO.
Only moral agents can have rights.
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01.03.09 - 8:44 pm | #
it just reinforces the rights' stereotype of progressives as a bunch of irrelevant, drug-taking, tree huggers...
And we should care what THEY think WHY?
Terry C - Forever Dateless
I should include most of the mainstream, not just the right. It's a common perception in the media, throughout our society, actually.
I just believe that if we're going to fight for leftist values, we have to be just as disciplined as the US military, or any corporation that drug tests. We should be concerned with staying fit and physically healthy. Why is it that only rightwing military types should be able to run marathons and do 20+ military pull ups?
It's one of the reasons the 60s counterculture failed to take root in our society and influence the mainstream. It's become either a marketing gimmick, or a joke...
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:44 pm | #
Obama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy. He's better than McW. There will be disappointments. Get over it in advance.
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01.03.09 - 8:45 pm | #
OK, bills are paid, son's apartment is packed into the rental truck outside, laundry's almost done, and I've been to the grocery store, put away the groceries and done the dishes.
I am gonna sit with a glass of V8 for a bit. Party on.
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01.03.09 - 8:45 pm | #
2 Girls 1 Cup is a copy of the trailer for Hungry Bitches, a pornographic film produced by MFX-Media. The trailer features two women defecating into a cup, taking turns consuming the excrement, and vomiting into each other's mouths. "Lovers Theme" from Hervé Roy's Romantic Themes album released by Tele Music in 1992 plays throughout.
marcus |
01.03.09 - 8:45 pm | #
Obama is part of the statndard Constitutional, political system. I don't want him weighing in on Gaza until 1/20. Right now I'm more interested in what his online critics are actively doing about the crisis.
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:45 pm | #
This one-minute trailer is an Internet viral video that became a well-known Internet meme among bloggers and Internet forums for the reactions its graphic content elicited from its viewers. Around mid-October 2007, video sites such as YouTube were flooded with videos depicting others' reactions to watching the video for the first time.
marcus |
01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
Gromit, better add something to the V8.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
"And where do they place the quickening?"
After the Highlander takes the final head!
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01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.
There shouldn't be any argument at all.
Women's rights should take precedence.
peterboy is right - this is all about control.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
daughter is reviewing material for a poli sci class in which the abortion argument is framed as rights of women versus rights of fetuses.
My balls contain millions of rights.
Your Average Sack |
01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
Obama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy.
After the reckless, hubristic braggart we had the past eight years, he'll be fucking Jesus.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
A clump of cells don't HAVE rights.
Terry C - Forever Dateless
IRS says you can't claim anyone as a human dependent until they start breathing. That's good enough for me.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
"Looks like he's up about 225 after the count."
that made my day, it did.
jdw |
01.03.09 - 8:46 pm | #
fuck off, jack
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 8:47 pm | #
Comment by marcus blocked.
Jeezus Chripes on iceskates.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:47 pm | #
What's wrong with beng a sex-starved mystical tree hugger?
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 8:47 pm | #
rights of fetuses
In CA, your responsibility to your child begins at birth. I'd like to see it kept that way.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:47 pm | #
Obama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy.
That's fine with me.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:47 pm | #
The interesting thing about drugs is that they were a part of the counterculture, which is integral in resistance where you try to undermine the existing social order.
Is the goal to undermine the social order, or to influence, convince and ultimately to persuade?
Let's say, "win hearts and minds," to co-opt a phrase...
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:47 pm | #
It's good that certain outrage manufacturers can avoid all invalid assumptions and not paint with broad brushes like the right does.
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
"Obama is a cautious, centrist, moderate guy."
i'd say he's a *thoughtful* guy, which i'll take after 8 years of ideological idiocy.
jdw |
01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
Part of what has facilitated 2 Girls 1 Cup's spread are the reactions it causes. Hundreds of videos exist on YouTube of users showing the original video to their friends and taping their reactions. Even Joe Rogan, host of Fear Factor, a show notorious for the disgusting things its contestants eat, had to turn away in a reaction video posted to his blog. A reaction video starring Kermit the Frog proved very popular on the community-based popularity website Digg. In January 2008, Slate magazine documented the reaction video phenomenon with a slideshow featuring various reactions.
marcus |
01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
Civilizations come and go.
But Earth Abides.
Supreme Commander Thor
I'm hard on the Killfile button tonight
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
How's your Saturday?
It started kinda late. I stayed up too late watching "Pan's Labyrinth."
Just now listening to Kevin Phillips talk about how successive administrations have fiddled with statistical measurements to hide the actual inflation rates and poor GDP performance. Much of it, I think, is in his book, Bad Money, but, I haven't had the chance to read that yet. Will soon, though. Have it on order.
montag |
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01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
I should include most of the mainstream, not just the right. It's a common perception in the media, throughout our society, actually.
Who cares?
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
Let's say, "win hearts and minds," to co-opt a phrase...
Elias
hasn't worked.
So it's time to say "fuck it" and get medieval on their ass.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
All hail the 60s counterculture!!! They believed in something. The Dems don't believe in shit!!!
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:48 pm | #
The Feb. 17 transition from analog to digital television broadcasts looms and as many as 8 million households are still unprepared, but the government program that subsidizes crucial TV converter boxes is about to run out of money.
People who still rely on analog TV sets to pick up over-the-air signals — whether it is through rabbit-ear aerials on TVs or antennas on the roof — will see their screens go dark when the changeover happens. To avoid that, those people have to switch to cable or satellite TV, buy a television set with a digital tuner or buy a converter box that can translate digital signals from the airwaves into analog.
To subsidize the converter boxes, most of which cost between $40 and $80, the government has been letting consumers request up to two $40 coupons per home. But any day now, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), the arm of the Commerce Department in charge of administering the coupon program, expects to hit a $1.34 billion funding ceiling set by Congress.
Now the NTIA is warning that unless lawmakers step in quickly with more funding or new accounting rules, it will have to create a waiting list for coupon requests. That would mean it could send out additional coupons only as unredeemed ones expire, freeing up more money for the program.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:49 pm | #
Civilizations come and go.
But Earth Abides.
Supreme Commander Thor
Cold comfort.
Weirdly enough, I am comforted by that. It would be awful if we could just break a planet that easily.
Echidne |
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01.03.09 - 8:49 pm | #
Right now I'm more interested in what his online critics are actively doing about the crisis.
NTodd, Trollson
Voting for candidates who try to deliver humanitarian aid to a besieged people, then almost getting killed for it.
What's your guy doing? Golfing?
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:50 pm | #
Gromit, better add something to the V8.
No alcohol when younger son is around. He beat the addiction 18 months ago and has done a great job staying off the stuff. Runs AA meetings at the juvenile lockup.
Moving him to Hyde Park tomorrow for culinary school. Gonna be a long day.
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 8:50 pm | #
Ellie Mae really IS holier than thou, isn't he?
He has ALL the answers to EVERYTHING.
And he's calling other people "pompous."?
(sigh) time for killfile.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:50 pm | #
Sally, the cheesecake met its destiny quickly. Good for you.
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est! |
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01.03.09 - 8:50 pm | #
It's good that certain outrage manufacturers can avoid all invalid assumptions and not paint with broad brushes like the right does.
Being straight-edge does that to you.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 8:50 pm | #
2 Girls 1 Cup is a copy of the trailer for Hungry Bitches, a hunger awareness film produced by the Republican party. The trailer features two members of Rick Warren's church defecating into a cup, taking turns consuming the excrement, and vomiting into Rush's and Hannity's mouths.
There can be only one, after all.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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01.03.09 - 8:51 pm | #
He has ALL the answers to EVERYTHING.
And he's calling other people "pompous."?
(sigh) time for killfile.
Terry C - Forever Dateless
One Tin Fuckup is Killfiled Away!
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:51 pm | #
i'd say he's a *thoughtful* guy, which i'll take after 8 years of ideological idiocy.
jdw
"Whut tha Amurkin people need to unnerstand is..."
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:51 pm | #
After the reckless, hubristic braggart we had the past eight years, he'll be fucking Jesus.
MP
I could tell by the fact that the Repigs are already trying to crucify him.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:51 pm | #
Somebody also has a temporal problem and thinks that voting is all its about. Typical.
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:51 pm | #
There can be only one, after all.
Which is patently untrue since there were multiple movies and a series... ;-P
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:52 pm | #
I know, Echidne, same here. When I'm out hiking, I'm looking at trees and cliffs and canyons that pre-date me and will be here long after I'm gone. It's comforting. And yeah, even the worst damage we do will be ground up and reborn in time.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:52 pm | #
We need a new counterculture. This sucky time is like the 1950s.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:52 pm | #
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I believe in killfile.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:52 pm | #
"Weirdly enough, I am comforted by that. It would be awful if we could just break a planet that easily."
even if we break it, other shit will be around. eventually, we may even come back to break it again!
jdw |
01.03.09 - 8:52 pm | #
Chris T, it's sinful to allow a Junior's cheesecake to exist more than a brief period after purchase.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 8:52 pm | #
not so much on that 1 cup thing,
if I want outrageous comedy, I stick with the aristocrats!
I'm hard on the Killfile button tonight
Supreme Commander Thor
I now temporarily killfile the people who respond to trolls. Helps a lot.
Gromit |
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To subsidize the converter boxes, most of which cost between $40 and $80, the government has been letting consumers request up to two $40 coupons per home. But any day now, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), the arm of the Commerce Department in charge of administering the coupon program, expects to hit a $1.34 billion funding ceiling set by Congress.
I'm not an early adopter. I'm waiting for the latest redeemable coupons to come out.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 8:53 pm | #
"Wha' th' 'murkin people needsh ta unnershtand ish..."
Somebody also has a temporal problem and thinks that voting is all its about. Typical.
NTodd, Trollson
For those who are only capable of voting.
But you not understanding that not everyone can live up to your high, moral pedestal is, well, typical...
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #
"Moving him to Hyde Park tomorrow for culinary school. Gonna be a long day"
Asshole men who treat women like shit don't sit well with me, sorry.
About the only thing that will bring out my latent Old Vermonter Redneck streak, really. And I have a posse of Irish goons to back me up!
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #
I now temporarily killfile the people who respond to trolls
Yeah really, people like Terry C and JR.
turner |
01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #
One can say:
* The Civil Rights movement failed because there is still racism and inequality.
* The Civil Rights movement succeeded in its immediate goals and built the foundation for the continuing struggle.
Maybe some sort of historical dialectic would help to understand that shit doesn't just stop, even if you pronounce it has...
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #
Obama is one of those straight A technocrats you hated in college who brownnosed the prof and got straight A's You know the type.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 8:55 pm | #
And yeah, even the worst damage we do will be ground up and reborn in time.
larkspur
A long, long time in the case of strip mined mountains and so forth. Even longer in the case of plastic in the environment-- a couple of billion years, likely, before something evolves to eat them.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 8:55 pm | #
Back later. I have to put food on my family. (One dog, one cat, and moi.)
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:55 pm | #
CIA: Don't put the yellowcake thing in there. We debunked it. Ahhh...they put the yellowcake thing in there.
MP |
01.03.09 - 8:55 pm | #
Obama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan
go_hamas |
01.03.09 - 8:56 pm | #
Obama is one of those straight A technocrats you hated in college who brownnosed the prof and got straight A's You know the type.
BurpMeAnObamabot
How goes your plans for the McCain inauguration?
Gimlet |
01.03.09 - 8:56 pm | #
I should include most of the mainstream, not just the right. It's a common perception in the media, throughout our society, actually.
I just believe that if we're going to fight for leftist values,
(which I scoff at but for the sake of trolling)
we have to be just as disciplined as the US military, or any corporation that drug tests. We should be concerned with staying fit and physically healthy. Why is it that only rightwing military types should be able to run marathons and do 20+ military pull ups?
(I copied and pasted this whole screed)
It's one of the reasons the 60s counterculture failed to take root in our society and influence the mainstream. It's become either a marketing gimmick, or a joke...
(If I was a marketing image, I would be bankrupt)
Did I ever tell you I smoke the odd (or even) pole?
Elios |
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01.03.09 - 8:56 pm | #
Right now I'm more interested in what his online critics are actively doing about the crisis.
I love going to restaurants with my son. He has such instant rapport with waitstaff. I used to be more pleasant, but am getting grouchy.
(For sallyh -- the son I so enjoy being with now was "childstolen" by his father when he was three. Only for 4 months but an eternity at the time and at that time of his life. Take care of yourself and keep your heart open. No guarantees, but better than the alternative.)
Pentimenti |
01.03.09 - 8:56 pm | #
You know the type.
BurpMeAnObamabot | 01.03.09 - 8:54 pm | #
Terry C to the killfile for responding to trolls.
cosmosis |
01.03.09 - 8:57 pm | #
Jesus and Mo is brilliant.
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 8:58 pm | #
But you not understanding that not everyone can live up to your high, moral pedestal is, well, just like me. I am a stone Republican and worship Ayn Rand.
Elios |
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01.03.09 - 8:58 pm | #
Before I go - you're right, Moe, about the billions of years. Even when the old stuff is spewed up again as new magma, there will probably be some Barbie dolls and such in the mix. Billions and billions of years.
larkspur |
01.03.09 - 8:58 pm | #
Chargers at the 3!
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 8:58 pm | #
I seriously doubt that the first impulse of the civil rights heroes was to run as fast as possible to the polling station to vote for mainstream liberals who told them they should wait, or be patient, after they were chewed to bits by dogs, pummeled by fire hoses, if not already lynched or shot.
Elias |
01.03.09 - 8:58 pm | #
Frank Rich is getting in a few last digs at Chimpy
I have something I'd like to dig chimpy, but it might get me banned.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.03.09 - 8:58 pm | #
Israel's policy has been failing for years now -- one is reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity.
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 8:59 pm | #
Obama about as foolish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan
go_hamas |
01.03.09 - 8:59 pm | #
Think about it... we humans have so fucked up things in just 100 years or so that it will take billions of years to right it. Just think of what we can accomplish in another few hundred years.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 8:59 pm | #
[Breaks rule]
Elias, you do realize that by changing your nym to avoid killfile, you are confirming your status as a troll.
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 8:59 pm | #
Obama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan.
Just another Neocon
go_hamas |
01.03.09 - 9:00 pm | #
Pentimenti - the son I so enjoy being with now was "childstolen" by his father when
he was three. Only for 4 months but an eternity at the time and at that
time of his life.
Damn!
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
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01.03.09 - 9:00 pm | #
Israel's policy has been failing for years now -- one is reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity.
Prior Aelred
GWOT means never having to say you're sorry. Or, was that Israeli citizenship?
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 9:00 pm | #
Obama is one of those straight A technocrats you hated in college who brownnosed the prof and got straight A's You know the type.
Hmm. I didn't need to brown-nose anyone to get all "A"s.
How about you? You say all the above as if you were groveling like Pasqualino Settebellezze just to keep your "C" average....
montag |
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01.03.09 - 9:00 pm | #
DuaneV: 7 UP!
+225 Franken, last I heard.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.03.09 - 9:00 pm | #
CIA: Don't talk about the Prague meeting. We debunked it. Ah... he's talking about the Prague meeting.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:01 pm | #
Think about it... we humans have so fucked up things in just 100 years or so that it will take billions of years to right it. Just think of what we can accomplish in another few hundred years.
I know what the answer to this one is supposed to be: We will hafta go into space to get a clean planet after this one gets too messy! Also we can breed lots more and fill up other planets and then leave beer rings there, too.
Echidne |
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01.03.09 - 9:01 pm | #
Obama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan
Just another Neocon
With the chief warmonger
as SoS
go_hamas |
01.03.09 - 9:01 pm | #
Amazing how people vote Democratic when all the votes are counted...
ellroon with shoes |
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01.03.09 - 9:01 pm | #
Elias, you do realize that by changing your nym to avoid killfile, you are confirming your status as a troll.
Gromit
Like anything I say or do would change that, Grommy, ol buddy ol pal.
Elias |
01.03.09 - 9:02 pm | #
I have corresponded with the creator of Jesus & Mo -- another one of his fans is a nun (Episcopalian, of course)
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 9:02 pm | #
Up in heaven, there God sits on his majestic throne, Jesus standing on his right side and Elias on his left overlooking it all.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:02 pm | #
I know what the answer to this one is supposed to be: We will hafta go into space to get a clean planet after this one gets too messy! Also we can breed lots more and fill up other planets and then leave beer rings there, too.
Echidne
I've given this a lot of thought, actually. And I'm convinced that even if that's what we wanted to do, it won't-- it can't-- happen. We're fated to stay right where we are.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 9:03 pm | #
Some sex-positive feminists have gone so far as to equate bukkake with sexual liberation, and an expression of the freedom of a woman to have as many sexual partners as she desires.
grand |
01.03.09 - 9:03 pm | #
But you're right. And I do get a kick out of it, too.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:03 pm | #
After all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.
I don't. I want five or six.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
Obama about as foloish as Bush
Scared of AIPAC and Israel
and wants to lose bigger in Afghanistan
Just another Neocon
With the chief warmonger
Hitlery as SoS
go_hamas |
01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
Frank Rich is getting in a few last digs at Chimpy
Frank Rich is drinking for free all night at my bar.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
I just remember having a discussion with a co-worker years ago about how the Iraq war was sold and the culpability of Bush/Cheney in not being on watch before 9/11 and I referenced points from Franken's book "Lies" and the chapter "Operation Ignore" and this co-worker just looked at me and said:
"Al Franken?.. the comedian Al Franken??"
Yes.. pissant. Senator Al Franken.
GuyInMilwaukee |
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01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
The Rethugs wanted to impeach Bill Clinton so bad to make up for Nixon, it fucking consumed them.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
Up in heaven, there God sits on his majestic throne, Jesus standing on his right side and Elias on his left overlooking it all.
20¿09
Such an insult.
I know you meant Jesus and God at my sides...
Elias |
01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
We will hafta go into space to get a clean planet after this one gets too messy!
Israel's policy has been failing for years now -- one is reminded of Einstein's definition of insanity.
I've been comparing the two of them when I'm dragged into a conversation on that topic. It tends to end the conversation.
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01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
I don't think Obama had to "brown-nose" anyone to get straight A's.
Nor did Al Gore and that was the rap that rightards laid on him too.
After all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
What comforts me is that both Obama and Biden have taught Constitutional law classes. They know their stuff.
ellroon with shoes |
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01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
Supreme Commander, you're right.
Killfile is doing heavy cardio about now
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
montag:
You've hit it on the head; someone sounds jealous.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:04 pm | #
I seriously doubt that the first impulse of the civil rights heroes was to run as fast as possible to the polling station to vote for mainstream liberals... pummeled by fire hoses, if not already lynched or shot
After all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.
I don't. I want five or six.
AndyMN
Conversations with smart drunk people are always entertaining.
Conversations with dumb folks?
Not so much...
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 9:06 pm | #
Who wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN
Call me in 1975, when I had energy.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #
People who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality: working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #
After all, nobody wants to have a beer with anyone who's smart.
-----------------
I don't. I want five or six. - AndyMN
'My Dinner With Andy'
focus, too much is enough |
01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #
BG, I haven't even looked at their columns in something remotely resembling forever. I just figured they were still being middle school silly.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #
Maureen Dowd and Thomas L. Friedman are off today.
Not exactly. They're off every day.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
Off their rockers!
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #
Who wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN
Call me in 1975, when I had energy.
1975 was also the year when two bucks was the going rate.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
Dude.. we already have plastic eating bacteria.
JR
Totally? And like, out in the world? I'm just repeating something I read in "The World Without Us"....
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
When they say they put you on killfile, they really don't. They're just being drama queens.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
Call me in 1975, when I had energy.
Well, I was born that year. Think even I had energy then.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
Just now jumping in--does no one have Larry King in their 2009 deadpool?
He's on my list, I tell you what.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
People who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality: working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.
Gromit
Who've never gotten an 'A'...
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
Who wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN
i want one of 'em up front. at least.
stoat |
01.03.09 - 9:08 pm | #
Up in heaven, there God sits on his majestic throne, Jesus standing on his right side and Elias with his head up his ass, overlooking it all.
Elios |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:09 pm | #
1975 was also the year when two bucks was the going rate.
When they say they put you on killfile, they really don't.
It's pretty embarrassing to carry on about how you're ignoring the trolls. don't these morons see the contradiction?
** |
01.03.09 - 9:09 pm | #
Who wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
AndyMN
Over here in God's Country (Golden Valley) it seems to have quit snowing.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:09 pm | #
Off their rockers!
DuaneV,Wanker | 01.03.09 - 9:07 pm | #
Off their meds.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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01.03.09 - 9:09 pm | #
Honestly, I understand Israel's fear -- we could leave Vietnam & we will leave Iraq -- Israel is there
But the failed policies of the past aren't working -- they are making things worse -- you don't get people to like you & trust you by cutting off their access to food, water & electricity & then bombing them -- I know that people of my generation got sick and tired of hearing about "winning hearts and minds" but what Israel desperately needs to do is to change the attitudes of people -- this is not going to do it (IMHO)
Prior Aelred |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:10 pm | #
People who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality: working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.
A female student informed a male colleague of mine that she would do 'anything' for an A.
He said to her, "Would you...study?"
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:10 pm | #
Well, I was born that year.
Freakin' kids around here. Please shovel my lawn and then get offa it.
Gromit |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:10 pm | #
Charlie Chaplin is stuck in the big evil machine! LET HIM OUT! (I really should own these...)
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:10 pm | #
Who wants to go shovel for me? I'll give you two bucks!
Negotiable, as long as we're not talking the parking lot at MSP International....
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:10 pm | #
Well, I was born that year. Think even I had energy then.
AndyMN
Oh yes. Yes, you did.
Your mother |
01.03.09 - 9:10 pm | #
I do so love Frank Rich when he's bitchy. Nobody does it better.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:11 pm | #
A female student informed a male colleague of mine that she would do 'anything' for an A.
That's never happened to me. (That I've noticed, anyway)
Gromit |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:11 pm | #
Totally? And like, out in the world?
Moe Szyslak
nylon eating bug evolved by itself, some high school student bred a bug that would eat plastic grocery bags.
Fuckin cool.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:11 pm | #
"your mother", that was funny right there.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:11 pm | #
Gromit, L.A. does have its advantages.
For one thing, I don't have to hire anyone to shovel snow
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:11 pm | #
When they say they put you on killfile, they really don't.
If they were really putting you on killfile, they would do so quietly instead of making such a huge production of it.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
"Wall-E"
"Eeeeeeeeeva!"
Ericka and I saw that for the first time at NTodd's Pa's on Xmas. Lovely.
We also watched Tropic Thunder. Fucking hysterical. Just brill.
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
God's Country (Golden Valley)
Pfft...everyone knows that St. Louis Park is Gawd's country. Look who it spawned:
-Franken
-Coen Brothers
-lil' Tommy Friedman
Oh...never mind that last one. Even the "creator" is not perfect.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
That's never happened to me. (That I've noticed, anyway)
Nobody offered you a skiing holiday in Switzerland? I thought everyone got one of those offers.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
People who think others get A's by brown-nosing (rather than reality:
working their asses off) are invariable lazy asshole fratboys.
Gromit
Who've never gotten an 'A'...
And they vote for OTHER invariably lazy asshole fratboys who've never gotten an "A".
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
I know that people of my generation got sick and tired of hearing about "winning hearts and minds" but what Israel desperately needs to do is to change the attitudes of people -- this is not going to do it (IMHO)
Prior Aelred
Unfortunately, the will to do that is just not there. The more the Israeli's isolate the Palestinians, the more they become the evil Other.
Your mother |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
Watching this telephone commercial filmed in Central Park.... Mrs. Blues and I so enjoyed our day there. We loved the people watching in the park, and throughout the city.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
A female student informed a male colleague of mine that she would do 'anything' for an A.
He said to her, "Would you...study?"
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
Goddamn it that was me.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
Well, a couple of hundred million years for the mountains that have been stripmined, anyway.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:13 pm | #
Looks like the Arab countries are doing their bit for Gaza -- arguing over clauses in a UN Security Council resolution.
P O'Neill |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:13 pm | #
Comment by 20¿09 blocked.
We announce it to make a point.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:13 pm | #
Deacon, if I had to live anywhere else, it would be Manhattan. I love the place.
Mlle will most likely be living there within the year.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
We also watched Tropic Thunder. Fucking hysterical. Just brill.
NTodd, Trollson
I thought so, too.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
Gosh darn you, Adam.
Vicki, 98% Virgin |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
And they vote for OTHER invariably lazy asshole fratboys who've never gotten an "A".
Margaret Mead wrote a paper on this a long, long time ago.
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
Gosh darn you, Adam.
Vicki, 98% Virgin
What'd I do?
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
Well, a couple of hundred million years for the mountains that have been stripmined, anyway.
Moe Szyslak
Well, they aren't "coming back" but it's not really a biggie.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
Adam!
How's my favorite curmudgeon tonight?
(You know that I have a soft spot for curmudgeons, I hope)
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:14 pm | #
I know that people of my generation got sick and tired of hearing about "winning hearts and minds" but what Israel desperately needs to do is to change the attitudes of people -- this is not going to do it (IMHO)
Imagine if they took half the military aid we give them each year and invested it in Palestinian infrastructure. It would be a few times more than what we give the Palestinians, and go a long way...
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:15 pm | #
maybe wolcott. maybe.
A Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.
billy b |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:15 pm | #
Stoat, that's possible.
Wolcott can be a mean girl when he wants to be
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:15 pm | #
Hi Sallyh! I'm good; I hope you are the same.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:16 pm | #
A Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.
billy b
My students do things like say, "no pressure, but I need an A in this class or I can't come back next semester," or, "if I submit my midterm now, will that improve my F?"
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:16 pm | #
For one thing, I don't have to hire anyone to shovel snow
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
But you do have to hire an illegal to mow your lawn jk
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 9:16 pm | #
Point is you can be brilliant and not brown nose the prof. Obama is a nice man. Intelligent, no doubt. But he's no man of the left.
Ya think all those white folks in suburbia would have voted for Jesse Jackson? Nuff said.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:17 pm | #
Better go dust off the sidewalk. Gosh knows you greedy pigs won't do it for me. BBL.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 9:17 pm | #
Your mother | 01.03.09 - 9:12 pm | #
I'm not disagreeing with you
Sadly -- most Israeli citizens want peace -- but the combination of their screwy voting system & just plain fear keeps leading them into self-defeating policies (or so it seems to me)
Look at how the Limey's learned after Bloody Sunday -- they bit the bullet and took more casualties than they inflicted (because the alternative creates more terrorists)
Prior Aelred |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:17 pm | #
Deacon, no comment on that one
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:18 pm | #
I was the only one on my block that shoveled the couple of inches of snow that fell last night. After the New Year's Eve blizzard, couple inches apparently didn't reach the shoveable level for most people.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:18 pm | #
Hey, sallyh, my heart is with you. I get to see my 8 year old granddaughter and the finest-baby-in-the-world, her baby sister, about 3x per year. Not hostility, exactly, but my DIL is a DIP and insular, I guess I'd say. But I did get to see them all over Christmas, so it's all good at the moment.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:18 pm | #
Looks like the Arab countries are doing their bit for Gaza -- arguing over clauses in a UN Security Council resolution.
I don't know which clauses to which you're referring, but, in fairness, they tend to get antsy about language ever since the Israeli government continued its occupation unabated because of the (possibly deliberate) failure to include the word "all" in the clause in UNR 242 about territories from which Israeli troops had to withdraw.
montag |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:18 pm | #
wolcott is? really?
Indeed. He had this recent bio of Johnny Unitas on his book rec. list like forever. It may still be there...
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:18 pm | #
A Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.
billy b
And John Waters.
Terry C - Forever Dateless |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
I'm First!!!
MP
I demand a recount!
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
The only people I killfile are people who comment about who they killfile.
Killfile This |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
Watching this telephone commercial filmed in Central Park.... Mrs. Blues and I so enjoyed our day there. We loved the people watching in the park, and throughout the city.
Deacon Blues | 01.03.09 - 9:12 pm |
Did you catch the disco rollerskaters?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
Deacon, if I had to live anywhere else, it would be Manhattan. I love the place....
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere
Can't afford it. What with the $9 french fries and all.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
Position in queue: 255
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
I'm not disagreeing with you
Sadly -- most Israeli citizens want peace -- but the combination of their screwy voting system & just plain fear keeps leading them into self-defeating policies (or so it seems to me)
Prior Aelred
There's also been an increase in immigration to Israel from Arab and Eastern European countries in the last 30 years. This population, according to my mother at least, tends to be very right wing and racist. And they vote that way, unfortunately.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:19 pm | #
Why no Lexus bumperstickers for Jesse 1988? Ha ha ha ha!!!!! Yeah, right. Nuff said lifestyle liberals.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:20 pm | #
Anyone ever try to cook a frozen pizza on a bbq?
annie |
01.03.09 - 9:20 pm | #
I heart John Waters.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:20 pm | #
The only people I killfile are people who comment about who they killfile.
Killfile This
First rule of killfile: Never talk about killfile.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:20 pm | #
Did you catch the disco rollerskaters?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
They ones slaloming through a line of small cones? By the bridge in the Sprint commercial? We watched for an hour or so.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 9:21 pm | #
Looks like the Arab countries are doing their bit for Gaza -- arguing over clauses in a UN Security Council resolution. - P O'Neil
but what are our Arab countries saying?
focus, too much is enough |
01.03.09 - 9:21 pm | #
The only people I killfile are people who comment about who they killfile.
I only killfile people who tell us they will killfile people who tell us they killfile people.
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:21 pm | #
bill buckner, did you ever read jane leavy's "sandy koufax: a lefty's legacy?"
stoat |
01.03.09 - 9:21 pm | #
Position in queue: 200
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:22 pm | #
I only killfile myself.
annie |
01.03.09 - 9:22 pm | #
NTodd -- they tried something like that once -- beer brewed by Palestinian Christians was selling very well in Israel -- until the next crisis & the Israelis bombed the brewery (which some of us would consider a war crime -- unless it was Coors ...)
Prior Aelred |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:22 pm | #
They ones slaloming through a line of small cones? By the bridge in the Sprint commercial? We watched for an hour or so.
Deacon Blues | 01.03.09 - 9:21 pm |
That's one group of them. But the main group dance/skate in an oval not too far from there. Some of them have been going there for 30 years.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:22 pm | #
couple inches apparently didn't reach the shoveable level for most people.
One of Life's Little Pleasures is manhandling a snowed-in car out of the driveway WITHOUT shoveling. Landlord does that. He has to be good for Something..
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:23 pm | #
"Wall-E"
"Eeeeeeeeeva!"
Ericka and I saw that for the first time at NTodd's Pa's on Xmas. Lovely.
We also watched Tropic Thunder. Fucking hysterical. Just brill.
NTodd, Trollson | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 9:12 pm |
Loved Wall-E. Tropic Thunder is waiting for me at the library.
OTOH, Journey to the Center of the Earth, with Brendan Fraser? Not so good.
Buckeye ... |
01.03.09 - 9:23 pm | #
NTodd -- they tried something like that once -- beer brewed by Palestinian Christians was selling very well in Israel -- until the next crisis & the Israelis bombed the brewery (which some of us would consider a war crime -- unless it was Coors ...)
Prior Aelred
Isn't blowing up beer a mortal sin? Unless it's crap beer like Coors or Budweiser, of course.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:23 pm | #
That's one group of them. But the main group dance/skate in an oval not too far from there. Some of them have been going there for 30 years.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame
Did not see that group, I guess. There was some live-comedy-performance going on on the other side of the bridge, quite a large crowd. Mrs. and I were tired and wanted to sit, so we didn't catch much of that particular act.
Deacon Blues |
01.03.09 - 9:24 pm | #
Position in queue: 144
I am liveblogging my World of Warcraft game...
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:24 pm | #
one of the turning points in the sorry history of modern palestine came after the 1948 war, when king farouk of egypt, in control of the gaza, got in touch with king abdulla of jordan, in control of the west bank, and suggested that they declare the grand mufti of the palestinians to be the head of a new palestinian state. abdullah said, nah, i think i'll just make the west bank part of the kingdom of jordan. to the palestinians, he said, you don't want to settle for these (what we now call pre-1967) boundaries - stay in the camps ready to leave at any time, because soon we are going to drive all the jews into the sea and then you can live wherever you want...
NTodd -- they tried something like that once -- beer brewed by Palestinian Christians was selling very well in Israel -- until the next crisis & the Israelis bombed the brewery (which some of us would consider a war crime -- unless it was Coors ...)
Then perhaps they didn't understand the idea all that well...
NTodd, Trollson |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:25 pm | #
Palestinian Christians
When I was in Palestine (1989) fully a third of the West Bank Palestinians, and just about all of the middle class Palestinians, were Christian. Now, not so much, I understand.
It was Christians in Beit Sahour, btw, who started the first tax strike against the occupation. I was there in a sort of lull in the battle. The entire town was surrounded by military encampments and roadblocks, but I got in with the assistance of a young women who knew the way around the road blocks.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:25 pm | #
Tropic Thunder was retarded.
Elias |
01.03.09 - 9:25 pm | #
An entire thread about killfile. We've hit a new low.
Shared Humanity |
01.03.09 - 9:26 pm | #
Hey, Obama why not condemn the Israelis?
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:26 pm | #
Tropic Thunder was brilliant if you like blackface.
Elias |
01.03.09 - 9:26 pm | #
"sandy koufax: a lefty's legacy?"
Yes! Great book - he was a bad motherfucker... (I regret that I'm too young to have seen him pitch.)
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:27 pm | #
Deacon, I was thinking of the $10 cigarettes...
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:27 pm | #
The little girl in Little Miss Sunshine SO looks like my granddaughter. S'wonderful to watch the movie and relate to my little punkin'.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:27 pm | #
Position in queue: 65
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:27 pm | #
Shared Humanity, we never stop trying
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:27 pm | #
I used "killfile" on all that useless CIA shit about how Saddam Hussein didn't have Weapons of Mass Destruction. Been using it since I was at Halliburton and buying companies with so-called asbestos liabilities.
People just don't understand- You can't get things done when you're seeing things you don't want to see.
Dick Cheney |
01.03.09 - 9:28 pm | #
Think about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza.
Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:29 pm | #
Eat shit Normy.
EkCenTriK
So whatever did happen to Tom Davis?
(Probably the same thing that happened to Garett Morris).
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:29 pm | #
If you called someone an asshole who has you on killfile, would it still be considered an insult?
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:30 pm | #
Stop supporting the Demo-Republican war machine.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:30 pm | #
(I regret that I'm too young to have seen him pitch.)
bill buckner
i'm not too young, but still didn't.
i saw the 1960 all star game in kansas city but i don't believe he was there.
drysdale was the dodgers' man at that point.
stoat |
01.03.09 - 9:30 pm | #
Think about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza.
Really! I had no idea. You should tell someone about this.
Shared Humanity |
01.03.09 - 9:30 pm | #
I am liveblogging my World of Warcraft game...
George Johnston
Stop that or I'll start liveblogging Travian
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:31 pm | #
"Think about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza."
I did think that those Israeli soldiers on the front page of HuffPost were sporting smacked-down versions of American military weapons. Hmmm. I wonder how much of taxpayer cash goes into the Israeli military machine?
montanaheadcold |
01.03.09 - 9:31 pm | #
Adam Hominem: So whatever did happen to Tom Davis?
(Probably the same thing that happened to Garett Morris).
He's working as a translator for the hearing impaired?
("Our top story tonight!")
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:31 pm | #
Deacon, I was thinking of the $10 cigarettes...
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere | 01.03.09 - 9:27 pm |
Our mayor is not a fan of smoking.
Generally speaking, Manhattan is very expensive now, which is, unfortunately, driving out all the small businesses that create neighborhoods. My shoemaker had to close his shop after 15 years because his rent went through the roof.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:31 pm | #
Cheney has the opposite of killfile - he wiretaps everything!
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:31 pm | #
What is with the plethora of Nader trolls? Do all sites get them, or are we just lucky?
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:31 pm | #
What is with the plethora of Nader trolls? Do all sites get them, or are we just lucky?
Adam Hominem
kos had first choice and took the ron paul trolls.
stoat |
01.03.09 - 9:32 pm | #
No one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Homepage |
01.03.09 - 9:32 pm | #
He's working as a translator for the hearing impaired?
("Our top story tonight!")
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Classic. It still makes me laugh just to think of it.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:32 pm | #
"Think about it: our tax money goes to killing folks across the world, even in Gaza."
Oh ...here it is in all its unedited glore::
# Total direct aid to Israel, 1948-2003
$89.9 billion (uncorrected for inflation)
# Since 1976 Israel has been the largest annual recipient of US aid. It is the largest cumulative recipient since World War II.
# Direct U.S. aid for each Israeli citizen in 2001 (per capita annual income of Israel = $16,710) -- over $500
# Direct U.S. Aid for each Ethiopian citizen in 2001 (per capita annual income of Ethiopia = $100) -- about $.45
# REGULAR US GRANT AID in FY 2003
$2.76 billion military aid grant
$2.1 billion economic support funds
$600 million refugee resettlement grant
# COMMERCIAL LOAN GUARANTEES IN FY 2003
$2 billion
# BUSH ADMINISTRATION SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST FOR FY 2003
Military aid grant $1 billion
Commercial loan guarantees $9 billion
Arrow missile development $60 million
# TOTAL AID FOR FY 2003 $14.82 billion
montanaheadcold |
01.03.09 - 9:33 pm | #
Tropic Thunder was excellent, if you're into minstrels...
Elias |
01.03.09 - 9:34 pm | #
drysdale was the dodgers' man at that point.
I hate the modern Dodgers (hello, Steve Garvey!), but am a major fan of the Koufax-era squad (And, of course, Brooklyn...) At Chavez Ravine, people leave during the 5th inning to beat the traffic. Those are not REAL fans!
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:34 pm | #
Sandy Koufax was a marvelous big league pitcher. Fucking threw his arm out, though.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:34 pm | #
Montana,
Oh yeah. But if you stop paying taxes they throw you in jail and your wife leaves you. Ha ha.
Sad.
But you get what I'm saying.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:34 pm | #
No one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Wanna bet?
After the liberation of Paris in 1944, Picasso began to keep company with a young art student, Françoise Gilot. The two eventually became lovers, and had two children together, Claude and Paloma. Unique among Picasso’s women, Gilot left Picasso in 1953, allegedly because of abusive treatment and infidelities. This came as a severe blow to Picasso.
He went through a difficult period after Gilot’s departure, coming to terms with his advancing age and his perception that, now in his 70s, he was no longer attractive, but rather grotesque to young women. A number of ink drawings from this period explore this theme of the hideous old dwarf as buffoonish counterpoint to the beautiful young girl, including several from a six-week affair with Geneviève Laporte, who in June 2005 auctioned off the drawings Picasso made of her.
Picasso was not long in finding another lover, Jacqueline Roque. She worked at the Madoura Pottery in Vallauris on the French Riviera, where Picasso made and painted ceramics. The two remained together for the rest of Picasso’s life, marrying in 1961. Their marriage was also the means of one last act of revenge against Gilot. Gilot had been seeking a legal means to legitimize her children with Picasso, Claude and Paloma. With Picasso’s encouragement, she had arranged to divorce her then husband, Luc Simon, and marry Picasso to secure her children’s rights. Picasso then secretly married Roque after Gilot had filed for divorce in order to exact his revenge for her leaving him.
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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01.03.09 - 9:34 pm | #
Hmmm. I wonder how much of taxpayer cash goes into the Israeli military machine?
It averages about $2.0-2.2 billion per year, plus about $700-800 million for economic development, which the Israeli government mostly uses to start new arms companies for export.
The average amount may be somewhat higher because of loans forgiven by Congress, but, those are harder to track.
montag |
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01.03.09 - 9:35 pm | #
Moe -- most of the Palestinian Christians who can get out have -- I forget how many jumbo jets it would take to remove the remainder -- re: Beit Sahour -- IIRC more Palestinians who were born in Beit Sahour now live in Dearborn, MI than live in Beit Sahour
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 9:35 pm | #
I work hard 9-5 so the US gov't can kill brown people thousands of miles away. My money, your money.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:36 pm | #
"Oh yeah. But if you stop paying taxes they throw you in jail and your wife leaves you. Ha ha.
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Not a tactic in my bag of tricks. I do like to have my county roads plowed and access to law enforcement.
montanaheadcold |
01.03.09 - 9:36 pm | #
drysdale was the dodgers' man at that point.
Drysdale was a huge man. Probably the biggest pitcher to play until then.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:36 pm | #
"Classic. It still makes me laugh just to think of it."
I can't think of many shows since the the mid 80s, if any, that are remembered and quoted as much as SNL from the 70s. But we had what SCTV, Fridays as well as SNL rolling along. Nothing like it since.
EkCenTriK |
01.03.09 - 9:36 pm | #
Brooklyn Girl-- I can believe you and your so-called "facts," or I can believe Janathan Richman.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 9:37 pm | #
I bet Bob Gibson was the most feared pitcher during his time.
He had a cannon, and would throw right at you, if he thought you were crowding his plate.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:38 pm | #
I thiink fy's lonely. His mom must be out of town.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:38 pm | #
Moe -- most of the Palestinian Christians who can get out have -- I forget how many jumbo jets it would take to remove the remainder -- re: Beit Sahour -- IIRC more Palestinians who were born in Beit Sahour now live in Dearborn, MI than live in Beit Sahour
Prior Aelred
Sigh.
I can't tell you how sad that makes me.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 9:38 pm | #
Sandy Koufax was a marvelous big league pitcher. Fucking threw his arm out, though.
MP
if you haven't read it, mp, the jane leavy book is a great one. she really tells his story, and it's much bigger than baseball. it's about being a mensch, i think.
stoat |
01.03.09 - 9:39 pm | #
Not a tactic in my bag of tricks. I do like to have my county roads plowed and access to law enforcement.
montanaheadcold
You could withhold the portion of your Federal taxes that goes to Israel. Let's see; call it 3 billion; out of a 3 trillion Federal budget that would be a penny per every ten dollars.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:39 pm | #
Yeah, double edged sword. You don't pay taxes and poor Americans get hit hard. But some of that dough is siphoned to the international war machine (a la Israel, imperial wars, etc.) You're fucked either way.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:39 pm | #
I can't tell you how sad that makes me.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian
Save some pity for the Native Americans in South Dakota. And elsewhere.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:40 pm | #
driving out all the small businesses that create neighborhoods.
Yep - same thing in Beantown. They ruined Kenmore Square. They ruined Harvard Square. They ruined Davis Square. And now they're coming for me!
(OTOH - I was in Manhattan recently, and my (admittedly brief) visit cost me almost nothing. Lunch at 7th Ave. Deli? 15 bucks. Beers at P.J. Clarke's? About the same as they are here. But I didn't have enough time to do any real shopping- where I typically get myself in trouble..)
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:40 pm | #
I remember a family vacation (tied to a CLE for my ex) in Montreal about maybe 10 years ago, wherein we all went to a Picasso Erotica exhibit at a big museum. It was pretty intense, as he seemed to have been into menstrual blood at the time, and my 10 year old child was of course with us, but we all held up our high standards of art appreciation (but a lot of it looked like the masterpieces junior high boys draw in their notebooks).
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:40 pm | #
I guess that shoveling wasn't that bad. It's the only time I really get any exercise.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 9:41 pm | #
Was there more wife beating in the 50's than there is today?
jen |
01.03.09 - 9:41 pm | #
Not a tactic in my bag of tricks. I do like to have my county roads plowed and access to law enforcement.
You have to make a moral choice. Is that more important than the lives of 1.5 million imprisoned people?
We all make different choices and sacrifices. But consider The Other for a moment more. And consider what would happen if the State couldn't count on bribing us...
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 9:42 pm | #
I guess that shoveling wasn't that bad. It's the only time I really get any exercise.
AndyMN
Is it still coming down? I have to go pick up the kids at a movie in a few.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:42 pm | #
Re: Native Americans -- very true, but at least we haven't started bombing the casinos ...
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 9:42 pm | #
I guess that shoveling wasn't that bad. It's the only time I really get any exercise.
AndyMN |
And you saved 2 dollars!
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 9:42 pm | #
Well, I think I will deal with my problems by killing everyone who disagrees with me - of course that would end my in prison -- unless I ran a country ...
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 9:45 pm | #
Position in queue: 200
Flying out of O'Hare, huh?
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 9:45 pm | #
And you saved 2 dollars!
Adam, it's sleeting more than anything. Just watch the usual slick spots.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 9:45 pm | #
unless I ran a country ...
Prior Aelred
If you were a general, you'd get a medal.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:46 pm | #
I pay taxes because I'm a fucking wimp. If I didn't the US gov't would jail me like they did to Wesley Snipes. There are some of us who are much more courageous. And they happen to be quite religious. Too bad I'm an agnostic.
Berrigan brothers have ten pound balls!!!
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:46 pm | #
stoat:A Baltimore boy in the fine tradition of H. L. Mencken.
OH! I was at the Gardner before the great theft (they never did find out anything about that, dud they?) -- it was wonderful -- "eclectic" ain't adequate!
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 9:46 pm | #
Gah, I feel great. It's like no pain in my back at all. Like it never was. Busch Beer is a cure-all. I ain't lying.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:47 pm | #
OH! I was at the Gardner before the great theft (they never did find out anything about that, dud they?) -- it was wonderful -- "eclectic" ain't adequate!
Prior Aelred |
Ever been to the Barnes?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame |
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01.03.09 - 9:47 pm | #
I pay taxes because I'm a fucking wimp. If I didn't the US gov't would jail me like they did to Wesley Snipes. There are some of us who are much more courageous. And they happen to be quite religious. Too bad I'm an agnostic.
Berrigan brothers have ten pound balls!!!
BurpMeAnObamabot
They probably wouldn't put you in jail. That only happens when they can't get the money some other way--like attaching your bank account.
Those of us who withheld our telephone surcharge tax in the Seventies found that out.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:48 pm | #
And you saved 2 dollars!
What was that movie where this paperboy, I think, keeps following the protagonsist around for his $2 fee.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:48 pm | #
Stop paying taxes and see what this gov't will do to you.
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:48 pm | #
I mean, the people in Beit Sahour did what you're *supposed* to do-- non-violent resistance, tax strike, etc. The army rolled in... and all the pro-Israeli Americans who bellowed about non-violence, well, you know, whatever.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 9:48 pm | #
If you were a general, you'd get a medal.
Adam Hominem | 01.03.09 - 9:46 pm | #
OH! I was at the Gardner before the great theft (they never did find out anything about that, dud they?) -- it was wonderful -- "eclectic" ain't adequate!
Prior Aelred |
The central garden is the best part, if you ask me. But then, I'm a Philistine where art is concerned.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:49 pm | #
No one ever called Pablo Picasso an asshole.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
Ever been to the Barnes?
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 9:47 pm | #
Nope -- been to the Cloisters
Prior Aelred |
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01.03.09 - 9:49 pm | #
Stop paying taxes and see what this gov't will do to you.
BurpMeAnObamabot
You really don't know very much, do you?
There's a difference between not paying and not filing.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:50 pm | #
Better Off Dead.
AndyMN
Oh yeah, where he holds up the boom box in the driveway.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:50 pm | #
Prior - I LOVE to taking visiting dignitaries there, so if you're down by the banks of the river Charles, let me know.
Batnes? Dunno it. Brandeis?
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 9:50 pm | #
Arrested Development marathon in the making... later all.
Moe Szyslak, faux Canadian |
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01.03.09 - 9:50 pm | #
where he holds up the boom box in the driveway.
Say Anything.
Cusack in both movies.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 9:51 pm | #
Plus, the Puzzle Palace in MD will know you didn't pay taxes. They know everything, those computer geeks. Hi there, NASA!!!
BurpMeAnObamabot |
01.03.09 - 9:51 pm | #
Gah, I feel great. It's like no pain in my back at all. Like it never was. Busch Beer is a cure-all. I ain't lying.
20¿09 |
You may have a 4th testicle still undescended causing your back problem.
Dr. Balls |
01.03.09 - 9:51 pm | #
i pay my taxes, but tonight i didn't eat. that will show 'em.
no wait, i did have a wonderful shrimp gumbo!
(but i still think a futile and utterly pointless gesture is necessary.)
jdw |
01.03.09 - 9:51 pm | #
Hi there, NASA!!!
BurpMeAnObamabot
You're a dope. NASA is the space agency.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:52 pm | #
Not only is it mmmmmm… good, it’s GOOD FOR YOU TOO!
tena |
01.03.09 - 9:52 pm | #
most "tax protestors" are of the whackaloon variety, not the moral crusader variety.
eg: K*nt Hovind, Wesley Snipes, et al.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:52 pm | #
Cusack in both movies.
AndyMN
I used to be fairly adept at pop culture.
I suck at it nowadays.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:52 pm | #
VATICAN CITY (AFP) – The contraceptive pill is polluting the environment and is in part responsible for male infertility, a report in the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano said Saturday.
The pill "has for some years had devastating effects on the environment by releasing tonnes of hormones into nature" through female urine, said Pedro Jose Maria Simon Castellvi, president of the International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations, in the report.
"We have sufficient evidence to state that a non-negligible cause of male infertility in the West is the environmental pollution caused by the pill," he said, without elaborating further.
annie |
01.03.09 - 9:53 pm | #
Why does the NYT even have this stoopit registration shit before you can even read their on-line content? That just pisses me off and I won't do it. Bad enough they used to want actual money to read their shit, now I can't even read Krugman or Rich without giving them some bogus registration stuff?
I do appreciate the occasional pre-registered free links provided here and perhaps elsewhere, but I ain't gonna play that game.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:53 pm | #
NASA is the space agency.
Adam Hominem
Can't expect the trolls to sully their beautiful minds with facts, now, can you?
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:53 pm | #
most "tax protestors" are of the whackaloon variety, not the moral crusader variety.
eg: K*nt Hovind, Wesley Snipes, et al.
JR, kerosene and a match
Airline pilots seem to be particularly susceptible to this wackiness. I don't know why.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:53 pm | #
Like I said, I took it like a real man. Like back in the western days when they would give you a shot of whiskey right before they sawed you leg off.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:54 pm | #
MP, a pop culture illiterate?
Come sit by me
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:54 pm | #
"We have sufficient evidence to state that a non-negligible cause of male infertility in the West is the environmental pollution caused by the pill," he said, without offering any evidence
It would be funny if it wasn't so unfunny.
annie |
01.03.09 - 9:55 pm | #
Airline pilots seem to be particularly susceptible to this wackiness. I don't know why.
Adam Hominem
Possibly similar to the Salem Hypothesis with engineers?
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:55 pm | #
JR, Monsieur and I are tax protesters.
Only a portion, and we explain at length. We have banked the money for such a time as our money is used legally.
Sallyh, Sad Grandmere |
01.03.09 - 9:56 pm | #
Some smart Atriot predicted this last night .... WaPo hires lefty blogger Greg Sargent and cue right wing outrage in 5 ... 4.... 3.... 2....
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 9:56 pm | #
NASA is the happy feel good happy face of the Military Industrial Complex.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 9:56 pm | #
Personally, I'd be more concerned about the antibiotics. And psychactive medications.
But then, God doesn't tell me what to do.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:56 pm | #
"most "tax protestors" are of the whackaloon variety, not the moral crusader variety."
Distinction can be made between "protesters" and "resisters". And should.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 9:56 pm | #
"Airline pilots seem to be particularly susceptible to this wackiness."
ex military. they *know* what waste is.
jdw |
01.03.09 - 9:57 pm | #
Sallyh, that is brave and wonderful. Long may your flag fly.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 9:57 pm | #
JR, Monsieur and I are tax protesters.
Sallyh
Why I qualified it with "most"... there are some very strange ideas floating around out there.
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 9:57 pm | #
most "tax protestors" are of the whackaloon variety, not the moral crusader variety.
Those are not the same as war tax resisters. They are evaders, not avoiders, and do it for greed. I would thank you for noting the difference in the future.
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 9:57 pm | #
ex military. they *know* what waste is.
Those $200 toilet seats leave an impression.
So to speak.
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 9:58 pm | #
Possibly similar to the Salem Hypothesis with engineers?
JR, kerosene and a match
Yeah, perhaps. Engineers tend to be mostly idiots, about everything but engineering. And I are one.
A doctor once told me that doctors are idiots with regard to investing money. The worst.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 9:58 pm | #
Well NSA uses NASA to spy on us.
BurpmeLikeA.... |
01.03.09 - 9:59 pm | #
Evans says Fed needs to mimic below-zero rates
Sat Jan 3, 2009 8:18pm EST
By Ros Krasny
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A grim economic outlook highlights the need for the Federal Reserve to step up quantitative measures to boost growth, with official interest rates already effectively at zero, Charles Evans, president of the Chicago Fed, said on Saturday.
Evans said that based on the outlook for rising unemployment, falling industrial production and a wider output gap, economic models suggest rates should be below zero.
"If it were not constrained by zero, those models would want to push it below zero, but that's not possible," Evans told reporters after a panel at the American Economic Association's meeting in San Francisco.
Quantitative easing, a way to flood the banking system with large amounts of money, "is a way to mimic below-zero rates and provide support to the economy," he said.
Through the relooking glass.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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01.03.09 - 9:59 pm | #
They are evaders, not avoiders, and do it for greed. I would thank you for noting the difference in the future.
NTodd, Trollson
The IRS certainly notes the difference.
MP |
01.03.09 - 9:59 pm | #
Personally, I'd be more concerned about the antibiotics. And psychactive medications.
Don't they directly inject the food we eat with hormones and antibiotics?
annie |
01.03.09 - 10:00 pm | #
ha! if my moral plane dictates that paying taxes keeps people dependant on welfare, i can rationalize it as well as not paying taxes because they are used to buy bombs or somesuch other that i don't approve of.
jdw |
01.03.09 - 10:00 pm | #
Interest rates below zero? That means they'd pay me to borrow money, right? And the more I borrow, the more I make, right?
I'm liking this kind of talk!
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:00 pm | #
Why I qualified it with "most"...
Not sure why it had to be mentioned, then...
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 10:01 pm | #
We have an enormous Navy. Fucking gargantuan, bigger that what it took to win at heavy wartime in the South Pacific against a powerful Naval foe.
It's a matter of where your taxes go. Christian pacifists stop paying taxes to stop the war machine. They are hardly crazy.
BurpmeLikeA.... |
01.03.09 - 10:01 pm | #
Those are not the same as war tax resisters. They are evaders, not avoiders, and do it for greed. I would thank you for noting the difference in the future.
NTodd
They consider themselves "resisters" too, you know.
And even the ones thta did it for greed claim to do it out of principle, and their followers believe them
I'm absolutely not denigrating war tax resistance.. but yes, there needs to be a distinction made between you and Sakllyh and what you are doing and the nutballs.
How about we just call them "tax code deniers"?
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 10:01 pm | #
Don't they directly inject the food we eat with hormones and antibiotics?
annie
Animals, which become meat, yeah.
Farmers are the biggest users of antibiotics, by far.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:01 pm | #
The IRS certainly notes the difference.
Nope, they don't, as you obviously know. They call any avoidance "frivolous."
However, there are precedents where people engaged in acts of conscience have ultimately not been liable for penalties and interest because of their intent...
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 10:02 pm | #
"Christian pacifists stop paying taxes to stop the war machine."
riiight. how's that working so far?
jdw |
01.03.09 - 10:02 pm | #
Don't they directly inject the food we eat with hormones and antibiotics?
annie
To say nothing of the genetically altered stuff. And there's always imported food from countries with lax standards for insecticides..
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 10:02 pm | #
Not sure why it had to be mentioned, then...
NTodd
because Wesely Snipes was mentioned... he's in whackaloon territory
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 10:02 pm | #
We have an enormous Navy. Fucking gargantuan, bigger that what it took to win at heavy wartime in the South Pacific against a powerful Naval foe.
Why is that?
MP
I understand we didn't even have a standing army until the 20th century.
How things have changed.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:02 pm | #
They consider themselves "resisters" too, you know.
No, not really. They are "resisting" something that is Constitutional based solely on the notion that they have no obligation to society, and not to effect change within society. Oddly enough, it's usually people with lots of money.
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 10:03 pm | #
Anyways, I know I'm not ignored of killfilled by anyone here because sometimes I'll say something really profound and thought provoking, and there will be this almost immediate drop off in comment activity and then it'll slowly resume to regular levels again.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 10:03 pm | #
Nope, they don't
Well, the statutes certainly do. Tax evasion is the key phrase to trigger prison time.
MP |
01.03.09 - 10:03 pm | #
riiight. how's that working so far?
jdw
The point isn't what you acheive. It's what you yourself are responsible for.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:04 pm | #
"Christian pacifists stop paying taxes to stop the war machine."
riiight. how's that working so far?
Sadly, we need just one more person to join in. You?
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 10:04 pm | #
Got more respect for Xian pacifists than Dem warmongers.
BurpmeLikeA.... |
01.03.09 - 10:04 pm | #
NASA is the happy feel good happy face of the Military Industrial Complex.
20¿09 |
You might want to look into that a little more closely. DoD would much like to stay seperated from NASA as much as possible and vice versa. After the Challenger accident DoD couldn't run fast enough away from them.
A big issue coming up in US space policy is just how much NASA will be compelled by the Obama administration to use DoD launch vehicles as a stop gap in the next 5+ years. DoD has little interest in manned spaceflight, NASA quite the opposite.
No one's gonna be happy on either side I'm afraid.
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It's just me again! |
01.03.09 - 10:04 pm | #
My husband tried to bet me that Loggins & Messina did "Smokin' In The Boys Room." I so totally won that bet it's not even funny.
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 10:04 pm | #
Well, the statutes certainly do. Tax evasion is the key phrase to trigger prison time.
MP
Hence the difference between not paying and not filing. You can file and withhold part of the payment for conscientous reasons. This is not evasion.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:05 pm | #
Anwyays, I don't care even if I was. I mostly just read my own comments.
20¿09 |
01.03.09 - 10:05 pm | #
Well, the statutes certainly do. Tax evasion is the key phrase to trigger prison time.
And they consider anything to be evasion. "Avoidance" is not in their vocab, and they view every reason, moral or not, to be frivolous.
But there's another myth: you don't go to jail just because you didn't pay taxes. You go to jail when you continue resisting after other avenues have been exhausted.
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 10:05 pm | #
Sadly, we need just one more person to join in. You?
Phillip and Daniel Berrigan, of Plowshares fame, were the first people I'd heard of to use the "with holding" of the specific tax on long distance that was directly tied to the DoD.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 10:06 pm | #
With Franken now ahead 225 votes, I'm not sure how Cornyn can claim legitimacy on his fillibuster threat.
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 10:07 pm | #
My husband tried to bet me that Loggins & Messina did "Smokin' In The Boys Room." I so totally won that bet it's not even funny.
That should win you a weekend at the Holiday Hotel.
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 10:07 pm | #
"Sadly, we need just one more person to join in. You?"
nope. the way i see it, there is no difference between citizens who don't pay taxes because they don't want their money going to 'x' as people who don't want their money going to 'y'.
either way, it's a rationalization.
jdw |
01.03.09 - 10:07 pm | #
You go to jail when you continue resisting after other avenues have been exhausted.
NTodd, Trollson
Which is why if you're paid a salary they will just garnish your paycheck, or your bank account.
If they can't do that, then you're looking at jail.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
My husband tried to bet me that Loggins & Messina did "Smokin' In The Boys Room." I so totally won that bet it's not even funny.
Southern Beale
I've listened to them. Sounds like they were smokin' each others' cock in the boys room.
DuaneV,Wanker |
01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
With Franken now ahead 225 votes, I'm not sure how Cornyn can claim legitimacy on his fillibuster threat.
Southern Beale
How DARE he count all the votes!
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01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
But there's another myth: you don't go to jail just because you didn't pay taxes. You go to jail when you continue resisting after other avenues have been exhausted.
NTodd, Trollson
You go to jail if the prosecutor thinks the case is worth the expense, and your lawyer loses.
MP |
01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
Alice Cooper?
The version they played at the hockey arena was Motley Crue.
But it was originally recorded by Brownsville Station. I think that was their only hit.
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
Brownsville Station did "smokining..."
Dee |
01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
Computer geeks love spying on us for blood money for the US gov't. You know that's true! Betcha there are CIA geeks here on liberal sites whoring for Obama.
BurpmeLikeA.... |
01.03.09 - 10:08 pm | #
Haven't done any iTunes in a while.
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01.03.09 - 10:09 pm | #
I go out to dinner and dash back to see you guys still here! Have we resolved anything yet? -ellroon with shoe
that asshole zod is back in one of his less obnoxious incarnations
Trollminder |
01.03.09 - 10:10 pm | #
Loggins and Messina did do "Smoke on the Water". I think.
Adam Hominem |
01.03.09 - 10:10 pm | #
AFIK, yeah, you can't withhold your tax payment because you don't want money to go to war (or whatever), and no one can do so for whatever reason. I remember that fkr David Gergen somewhere sometime saying that and I wanted to throw a grenade at him.
anonymous regular |
01.03.09 - 10:10 pm | #
either way, it's a rationalization.
Yes but some rationalizations are grounded in morality and some are grounded in selfishness.
I'll take the former.
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01.03.09 - 10:10 pm | #
Computer geeks love spying on us for blood money for the US gov't
you betcha
JR, kerosene and a match |
01.03.09 - 10:10 pm | #
My husband tried to bet me that Loggins & Messina did "Smokin' In The Boys Room."
I bet you there are Atriots who are CIA goons. Bet my house on it, dudes!!!!
BurpmeLikeA.... |
01.03.09 - 10:10 pm | #
You go to jail if the prosecutor thinks the case is worth the expense, and your lawyer loses.
Wow, thanks for the info. Who knew? Good thing most war tax resisters aren't so rich as Wesley Snipes, then...
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01.03.09 - 10:11 pm | #
Computer geeks love spying on us for blood money for the US gov't. You know that's true! Betcha there are CIA geeks here on liberal sites whoring for Obama.
I think you've set a record here for unsupported assertions in a single short paragraph.
Maybe you should quit while you're ahead....
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01.03.09 - 10:11 pm | #
Went through my old record collection and found two by Kenny Loggins.
James Taylor, Jackson Browne, the Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, Carly Simon, even John Denver hold up pretty.
But Kenny Loggins? WTF was I thinking back then?
Gromit |
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01.03.09 - 10:11 pm | #
Hot Rod Lincoln" was recorded as an answer song to "Hot Rod Race" in 1955. It was written by Charlie Ryan (who had also recorded a version of Hot Rod Race) and W. S. Stevenson. It was first recorded by Ryan, recording as Charlie Ryan and The Livingston Brothers.[1]. It begins, "You heard the story of the hot rod race, where the Fords and Lincolns were setting the pace...I was the kid in the Model A." The 1959 version, on 4 Star, as Charlie Ryan and The Timberline Riders, is probably better known. The version that may be considered most popular is Johnny Bond's 1960 hit on Republic Records
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01.03.09 - 10:11 pm | #
Loggins and Messina did do "Smoke on the Water". I think.
No no no no. That was deep purple.
Loggins & Messina were known for light pop acoustic pablum. I happen to enjoy light pop acoustic pablum but that doesn't change what it is.
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 10:11 pm | #
Wow, thanks for the info. Who knew?
Smart-ass non-tax payer. How can you lose?
MP |
01.03.09 - 10:11 pm | #
i'm certain that a lot of people who avoid paying taxes for 'y' feel entirely morally justified.
Yes but they would be wrong.
Southern Beale |
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01.03.09 - 10:12 pm | #
But Kenny Loggins? WTF was I thinking back then?
We were coming home from dinner last night, and "I'm All Right" came on. I told Zapette that this must have been the musical equivalent of ADHD.
AndyMN |
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01.03.09 - 10:12 pm | #
nope. the way i see it, there is no difference between citizens who don't pay taxes because they don't want their money going to 'x' as people who don't want their money going to 'y'.
There indeed isn't. And it's a matter of trying to effect change.
either way, it's a rationalization.
Nope. It's a tactic as part of an overall strategy. And it relies on collective effort.
Sadly, NOT joining in also requires rationalization...
NTodd, Trollson |
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01.03.09 - 10:13 pm | #
Loggins and Messina are all over "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" like stupid on Dr Rice.
k&y&seth.rogan |
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01.03.09 - 10:13 pm | #
Seriously, how many Atrios people are CIA employees? Fess up.
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01.03.09 - 10:13 pm | #
But Kenny Loggins? WTF was I thinking back then?
Gromit
Some of my favorite music? I love, Please Come to Boston, House at Pooh Corner, I Want to Sing You a Love Song - later recorded by Anne Murray, and, of course, Danny's Song also done by Anne Murray.
DWD - SOS |
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01.03.09 - 10:14 pm | #
Anybody here speak Open Office Calc? I'm having a fight with a function.
Oh, and, YAY! YAHOOO! SEN. FRANKEN!
Lemme say that again, SEN. FRANKEN!!!
bo |
01.03.09 - 10:14 pm | #
But it was originally recorded by Brownsville Station. I think that was their only hit.
Yes. Featuring my main man Cub Koda, perhaps America's greatest houserocker at one point in his career. RIP, Cubster - at least you don't have to play ski areas anymore...
bill buckner |
01.03.09 - 10:15 pm | #
Will Sen Franken condemn the Gaza war crimes?
BurpmeLikeA.... |
01.03.09 - 10:16 pm | #
What I would love to see on primetime tv is b.o.'s exploding head.
vox clamantis in red state |
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01.03.09 - 10:21 pm | #
Anybody like Jeff Beck?
I lissenin' to 'Brush with the Blues'.
Aw yeah, babe.
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